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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to freaky fauna Friday, where every Friday we take a little time and explore some of the freaks of nature from around the planet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We cherish so deeply.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So please jump aboard and let's explore the wilds together.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome back to freaky fauna friday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm the great and peaceful street and I'm Jay and today We're gonna talk about an amphibian that is extremely judgmental I know what you're talking about what what amphibian is it a frog what is a frog what kind of frog?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh strawberry frog tomato frog.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Dang it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I knew it was red

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, anybody that's for a little joke for our Patreon crew inside.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, inside information for patron.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But join patron find out it's actually what's from our D&T campaign on Patreon.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's definitely stable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It just in the discord.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, he's always okay fair enough.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he's the judgment whole part though, is the why guess you're right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is not just the indie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It just bled into D&D too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I said, yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The frog did exist, the judgmental frog did exist before D&D.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think we just turned it up to 11 there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, join Patreon.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, all of you freaky, fun on Friday listeners, just jump on clips of the core.com and subscribe to Patreon.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's like that, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Patreon, forward slash trips of corn, we'll get there too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's it, too, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe that's the proper route.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We have a protein a while, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't know either.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But we have Patreon.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, tomato frogs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's tomato frog.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Dyke.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh gosh.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Dyke's office.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Into Gilly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Into Gilly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is he striking red, orange, amphibian, and demic, too?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nah, I feel I'm getting called out and this and I need to know these things and I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Madagascar.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, really?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Madagascar is eastern rainforest.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Really, the rare part or the less explorers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the edges are explored.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of them in front.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They just get bigger the D-Pree and you go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They stop at the man's eyes once.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, then that's when they turn around.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this is too much.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Add enough.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've actually dealt with them on arc and it's terrible.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, the B.L.

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[SPEAKER_01]: B. L. Z. Boophos.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is that them?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they're terrible.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Known for its ambush hunting behaviors and defensive skin secretions, she unique species faces threats of habitat loss and overharvesting for the pet trade, which we can talk about that in a minute.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When most people think of frogs, they picture small green amphibians on lily pads.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Most frogs share common traits as smooth skin insect-based diets distinctive croaking sounds.

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[SPEAKER_01]: However, the tomato frog defies this

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's red vibrant species.

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[SPEAKER_01]: From Madagascar, looks remarkably like a ripened garden tomato just sitting in the dirt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The tomato frog scientific name is what I said earlier.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Although there are other there are two other species that we'll talk about later.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They stand out among the amphibians worldwide.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The bright red coloration.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's an

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's why they're red.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This mayle frog is only found in Madagascar.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what endemic means.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh-huh.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Endemic means only found there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did you remember that?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I knew that, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're, let's see where are inland type hands in Demic too.

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[UNKNOWN]: Gosh.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ty one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Australia.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ty pan, Ty one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I got, I got why I use that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: To infargs exclusively in Madagascar, it's specific to the Norse Eastern region.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The species occurs naturally around the antitagole Bay, which where they get a part of their scientific name.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Ah, this area features dense rain force and abundant water sources essential for their survival.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The Navy have to have a tail frog includes several distinct environments, as co-blooded animals, which is, what's the word for that?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Exo-thermic.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, echo thermic echo close not me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was pretty much so echo.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, got a call mid mid cast.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're not, and it's worth just late at night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're not normally.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They prefer a lowland areas consisting with moist and moderate temperatures.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They are found out from sea level up to 600 meters in elevation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The rainforest belt of Madagascar supports the largest population of these guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tomato frogs, they'll be doing habits swamps, forest, and forest to have the ranges in Madagascar.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The Whittlands provide ideal conditions for survival and their reproduction.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The species also frequency freshwater pools are during heavy rain storms, but they prefer

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so maybe they kind of like look like really slow creeks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so some amphibians do that versus others.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah I'm sure we got some right now here that live right by us in the haul creek Probably sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know That's the only creek I know it's haul creek haul creek hard and county Ohio.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a special place people

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[SPEAKER_01]: In addition to many frogs, it happened well to modified landscapes near human settlements.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They often appear in rural gardens, agricultural ditches, and urban areas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're kind of like how the American Toad did or does in America.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I've read the houses and stuff like that, not like industry, but like to a normal house in the garden, everything like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They'll be there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Shella pools play a vital role in the female frog's life cycle.

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[SPEAKER_01]: These temporary bodies of water are called vernal pools, and they form during the Madagascar's rainy season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Be emailed to Manifrogs deposit their eggs, these shallow pools, exclusively.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Slow-moving water sources also attract breeding adults during reproductive periods, throughout the year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Manifrogs need access to no moisture in their skin for their health, if they absorb water through their permeable membranes of their skin.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, my next little for you from the fact for you is female tomato frogs are much larger than male tomato frogs, which is called, uh, sexual dimorphism getting them all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sexual dimorphism, by the way, we're recording band mysteries house and the kids are supposed to be in bed and you heard anything that be a kid not in bed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just for everybody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, female tomato frogs go significantly larger than male specimens.

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[SPEAKER_01]: adult females reach about 10 and a half centimeters in length of maturity and contrast the males on the region about six centimeters of maturity.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they're almost double the size.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This size difference is called.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh gosh.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You already said it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sexual dimorphism?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, and then this species appears to be very obvious.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Larger females display much more vibrant red color compared to males, males often exhibit dollar oranges or yellowish colors in their skin, and even appearing copper.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hmm, usually it's the other way where the males are all colorful and flashy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's if it's for sexual display.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hmm, okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The difference helps observers distinguish between male and female tomato frogs in the wild.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Both sections feature lighter undersides, different off-white or pale yellow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Some individuals who say dark are just play dark bands along their flanks, separating their colors.

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[SPEAKER_01]: These markings create a distinct boundary between door salinventual surfaces.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The overall body shape remains plump and around contributing to the tomato-like appearance.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tomato frogs are closely related to other species in the Dyson of a Scroop.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The bright red color is a warning sign for predators.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The red color of tomato frogs serves as an important biological function.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The bright coloration acts as approvitisms, which is warning predators of ganger.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hmm.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Many toxic species out in nature use similar colorations to deter predators.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you have ever seen anything blue or red in nature, generally speaking, it's probably not good to pick it up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was saying don't touch it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: young to many frogs hatch and they're very dull in coloration juvenile frogs appear to be brown or even pale yellow initially after a minute more fits into it into their true form to their frog form yeah they got a evolve like Pokemon characteristic of the red coloration develops as they reach sexual maturity the glossy vibrant appearance makes them internationally recognizable in their habitat the visibility helps protectors learn to avoid to many frogs after negative encounters

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[SPEAKER_00]: The way he said predators, what I said, I don't know, I think he said, I think he's said, I think he tried mixing two words, I think he said predators, I don't know, that matter, sorry.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So this is a, this is a kind of an amphibian thing on a goal where or a thing they do a lot where, especially frogs and toads where they're flying to let a couple of get eaten for predators to learn not to mess with the rest of them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Cain toads are another example of that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is it a lot of animals choke like literally choke on them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't think that cane toad dies.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, don't think it likes super sticky or something and they choke and it's stuck in their throat They produce a toxin like like all amphibians do or all frog intodes do and it causes like a mucus reaction But the stickiness is actually coming from the animal that is trying to swallow them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay Interesting producing that the toxin you're producing is causing that reaction.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay Tomato frogs are poisonous not venomous

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hmm, and so don't eat them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, which probably at home real fast.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of poison is a touch or a bite, you have to touch or bite the animal to get it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Venom is the animal bites you or sting you or pierces you with a spine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Venom is injected poison you have to do to get it on you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That makes sense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Humans can experience other reactions when exposed to these tomato frog excretions they excrete the poison to their skin.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This white substance may cause localized swelling of the skin or skin irritation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: However, serious medical complications are almost never recorded from casual contact.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Very, very rare occasions you don't have to be allergic to it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Washington thoroughly was stup usually resolved any symptoms quickly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: a lot of amphibians are like that that their toxins are so mild.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and then there's a lot of amphibians aren't like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, where it's instead the most toxic thing on the planet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you'll be dying very quickly and you get to think about it a lot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hmm, that's fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The toxic creation primarily serves to the tour predators in the wild.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Snakes and small mammals learn to avoid the smell frogs after unpleasant encounters.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Miller to be in a frog factory is they inflate when they're threatened.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They puff up to appear much larger and it also shows that they're very difficult to swallow, do their shape.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of snakes and small mammals, it's just not worth it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it deters them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Bring only occurs during managascar's rainy season, which is March and our February and March.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, so that's one of the things cool in captivity is that a lot some animals like you have to match their Brady season by the time of year and the conditions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there went rainy season as in March of February, they live in tropical climate, whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you try to breed them here in Ohio, they want to breed in February and March.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you have to make it the rainy season in their enclosure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: February and March.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They get them to reproduce.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, gotcha.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But a lot of amphibians are like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of animals are like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One of the only dudes that figured out a brief freshwater stingrays had to do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They could figure it out forever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The his factors was the actual time that they do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He had a buddy literally sitting there watching wild ones because he was in China in the Amazon.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay, called him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're they're starting now and he started the reins he built a warehouse, but it's only artificial weather systems.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, oh, so he turned on the rainy season inside this warehouse.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They had like three foot of water across the whole thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then he's stingrays.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's the first one to breed a lot of these species of stingrays and captivity.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's awesome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tudon was like that too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tadpulse transform in just 45 to 60 days into full frogs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, that's pretty fast.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, it's pretty quick.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Some, I mean, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Be amount of time of frogs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're only taking between two to four years of age to reach sexual maturity though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Dang.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Mail to a frog generally much quicker.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They can live in captivity for about 11 years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: To be a frog's are considered a very good beginner in Fibian for people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, people say I would say a minimum of 20 gallon tank.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Look up their specific stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Three species make up the tomato frog family.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Who I didn't know that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's the true tomato frog, or the Madagascar tomato frog.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's the false tomato frog, or the Sam B at tomato frog.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then there is the at sorry tomato frog.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What do what that means?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's the place.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, get a true your false and then they're the Madagascar tomato frog displays the brightest and most vibrant of reds of all three species FEMA exhibits the most striking red hues making the most Visibly impressive of the group.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, we ever see a really really red tomato frog.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's probably a true Madagascar tomato frog.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay The Sam BV tomato frog represents the species most commonly available in the pet trade

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[SPEAKER_01]: But despite being labeled as false, these frogs still display every the red of shoes and everything like that and they are true to made they are actually to made a frogs okay just falses like it's like a misnomer okay catfish if you see them if you see a tomato frog in the pet trade it's most likely these guys the false ones really okay the most common yeah right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: the astote, the astote, I can't, I don't know how to say that word, it's I'm gonna guess it's a place in Madagascar.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, uh, differs dramatically than its relatives in appearance.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The species of plays are pretty much a plain brown color.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hmm, okay, so they're dull.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Rather than the orange and the red, due to its less striking appearance and it's limited range, it remains almost completely unavailable to Petra.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's even rarely encountered by researchers

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, at least they found one that I didn't file them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, the conservation status.

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[SPEAKER_01]: To me, it's a whole or this is at least concerned overall.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, 2017 is when they were reassessed and upgraded to a species didn't from two near threatens.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But when they were first listed, they were at least concerned and they were already up to near threatens.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's pretty fast.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's chained agnogia, a parent abundance

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if anybody heard any of that or whatever, but maybe it's not our normal recording hours.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's been a call I get night and the kids aren't in bed and they can hear Jay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's bedtime.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, I meet a bad guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, they just like you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know, I'm just kidding.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know you're weak.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's kind of true.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It might be wise.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Won't let it go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so when they were first as asked, they released concerned, and then when Ruse has to do on 17, they released as near threatened, the change of knowledge is apparent abundance in certain parts of their range, okay?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So why they went for least concern to near or to near threatened is that they were declining in parts of their range.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why other parts of maintaining stable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: However, now, the terminal frog has been considered an endangered species due to its population decline at recent years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The classification should not suggest that species faces no conservation or conservation challenges.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Deforestation in this part of Madagascar continues to destroy tomato frog habitat, and an alarming rate, including attacking in their vulnerable areas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh no.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Agricultural expansion, logging, and human settlements in crotch on a remaining eraden forest areas they live.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Swamps in swamped forest are facing particular pressures from the draining for rice cultivation all over Madagascar right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't even realize we were doing that in Madagascar.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we are.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, not us, but the destruction eliminates certain breeding grounds for like huge swaths and frog populations.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the estimates that I think it's like three or four unknown species are dying a year of vertebrate, omega, scar.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to eat extinct.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's not good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Undocumented species.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We don't even know yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Another huge thing is happening right now is pollution or fresh water pools and slow moving water sources is also threatening to egg survival rates.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Our cultural runoff has introduced pesticides and harmful development of tadpoles and adults.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Urban pollutants are also adding additional contaminants that accelerating the fragile ecosystem.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Certain parts of the Amazon are at certain parts of the Madagascar and rainforests is facing technological collapse right now at the base levels.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Dang!

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[SPEAKER_00]: All ready?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Where there's barely any humans there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, there is, but not, not a mass.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You gotta worry about our final new animals very soon.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Gosh, these potential threats, including habitat loss pollution, disease, and constant disruption of an imperative conservation status.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Another one is the, I can never say this word, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: The citrid fungus, which this has been not amphibian killer across the world.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So like a lot of the UK, it started in the UK, it didn't start in the UK.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of the species used to see in pet stores for like eight bucks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I used to breed salamanders and nudes and the cheapest thing I had was like forty five dollars.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there's so many old guys that come up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why you have that for that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: They were eight bucks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But that was before.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They were like, they were used to common and the US banned all imports of all salamanders and news.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so here is what's here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Can't get new ones anymore because of this disease.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't want to hear on the US.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's in the US.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know why they care.

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[SPEAKER_01]: because in parts of Asia and in parts of the UK, we're like Crested Nuts and stuff like that, they went from being common to endangered pretty much overnight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, pretty fast.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we're talking, in some cases, that exaggeration like two years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They went from under every rock.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's pretty fast.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You cannot find them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm, nice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because it's fungious attacks the attacks the adults taxi eggs all that oh it's just from the fungus yeah okay other other reasons we're other nails in the coffin but the fungious is just a huge killer and it's real it's related to you don't like the wording but like climate shifting So warmer periods during the year is a lot of it's to explode yeah okay and what's when they're breeding stuff like that's attacking the new generation as well make sense yeah

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it also is attacking the tomato frogs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's made it to Madagascar great and the warming areas for their.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They normally breathe these cool like rainy season pools.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, warm or now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the fun is going to really take over.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's not good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, that's to new frogs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The tomato frogs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They make I would say there's a couple uh animal keepers that give like ratings of like like ten and a ten for beginners whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tomato frogs are up there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Four beginning amphibian keepers keeping amphibians as a guy that has a lot of experience and keeping a lot of amphibians.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't mess a ton with Toads and Frogs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I had Toads and Frogs species.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm mostly at Salam Ayers of Nuts, but I had some Toads and Frogs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're one of the ones that just considered a beginner species.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do have, they're very colorful.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They have a lot of personality.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They do well in captivity.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They, I don't know if an amphibian can enjoy or dislike anything, like that's a pretty big word.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How they feel about things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: uh, but they like being fed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they get fat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, where did the, the, the tomato frogs judgefulness come from?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's just how they look.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're, they look, there's like, another famous one is like rain frogs and desert frogs and stuff like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This, how, they're really round body animals.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they've tiny little heads and giant eyes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they just look like they're so judging you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like hypnotode.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, but yeah, tomato frog's really cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, it's they went from being least threatened to endangered really quick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if you join our patron, you can see our tomato frog, uh, participant is name is copper frog.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So A dog has a pet tomato frog named copper frog.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we do like D&D stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He is one of the main story elements for the next D&D campaign.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh-oh.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, stay tuned.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anything to add about tomato frogs or frogs in generals.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I'm always been a big frog fan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm always like frogs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't look.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't see it anywhere A lot of pet trade frogs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because becoming invasive for another place.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't see this list for these guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna assume that because they spawned in rental pools

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they're pretty, yeah, I wouldn't imagine they're going to spread to like over green toads, which are cane toads.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're right, cane toads, then they take over and they get huge.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They make good pets too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the what like you've got to, when you buy an amphibian, here's a little PSA or any animal, any reptile, anything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess reptiles and amphibians, that kind of stuff make sure if you can, that they're captive bread versus wild

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they'll die pretty, they can die pretty quickly after what, because the stress of going from wild to captive, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, shipping, like all that, and then free to jail, you get your frog in a dice two weeks later.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: uh... there's a lot of breeders at do breed to many frogs captively uh... there's a lot of in port though wild tomato frog so to watch that uh... marine toads are one of them like you can get the wild caught ones there's so invasive in florida uh... uh... they got there with like a bag of them yeah and kept captured the invasive ones right instead of killing them they sell them into the pet trade

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[SPEAKER_00]: was like good or bad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's not wasting a life.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, they just spread though more.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I mean, they're already all over the US.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, fair enough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then if they, like, they're not going to survive in Ohio because they were winner.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's true.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So like, it's fine for you to have a pet to make or a pet a teen to a teen to a Ohio, because it gets out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Guess what?

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's not going to make it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he owned a, but that's the only

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, uh, because I know like almost every cube in a null every night, a null, uh, a lot of Burmese pythons like the basic Burmese pythons down the US or wild caught from Florida, because they're invasive.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay, got you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's, I think it's okay because you're not, I don't want to kill the animal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's nothing any fault they're in Florida.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're not pulling them out of the ecosystem and right, and you're not just trying to get over the else's ecosystem.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, exactly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because they're attacking the ecosystem.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The current part of.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, exactly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's not their fault.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, they weren't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They were right here by us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think it's of I think it's a fair deal then go into captivity.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're not being killed for existing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you're also not killing the natives.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because there is Florida's like, and they're getting fed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So what's what's the harm?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have been the great and peaceful mystery.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I've been Jay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, thanks for guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Bye.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Felicening to freak you fat on the Friday.

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