WEBVTT 00:00.091 --> 00:02.071 [SPEAKER_00]: Hi everyone, welcome back to room for us. 00:02.372 --> 00:04.012 [SPEAKER_00]: A space where queer voices thrive. 00:04.472 --> 00:06.132 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm your host, P, and every single week. 00:06.212 --> 00:10.233 [SPEAKER_00]: I like to sit down, get vulnerable, and talk about all things queer with all of you. 00:10.773 --> 00:16.755 [SPEAKER_00]: And for this week's episode, it's just going to be a little sit down, chit chat, life, update, slash. 00:17.355 --> 00:25.877 [SPEAKER_00]: Things I just kind of want to put into perspective a little bit more, because I have needed to advice myself, but how are we feeling that it's September? 00:26.737 --> 00:27.518 [SPEAKER_00]: I love September. 00:27.538 --> 00:28.639 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I'm a Libra. 00:28.819 --> 00:31.903 [SPEAKER_00]: So my birthday is at the end of the month, which is exciting. 00:32.503 --> 00:40.551 [SPEAKER_00]: I get excited for birthdays, and it's just more so about starting a new year and reflecting back on the year before. 00:40.691 --> 00:43.354 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I'll be entering my 31st year. 00:43.434 --> 00:46.818 [SPEAKER_00]: So it's fun to kind of see everything that has happened. 00:47.639 --> 00:55.829 [SPEAKER_00]: In my 30s, all the changes, all the adventures, some of the challenges, all that kind of stuff, I love reflecting on those kinds of things. 00:56.490 --> 01:00.435 [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm curious to see what kind of stuff 31 is going to bring. 01:00.795 --> 01:03.999 [SPEAKER_00]: But on that topic in about new beginnings and turning 31, 01:05.260 --> 01:10.205 [SPEAKER_00]: I've been thinking about how it's never too late to start pursuing what you're really passionate about. 01:10.585 --> 01:19.112 [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like we get so in our heads about age and time, and we let other responsibilities really get in the way of what we really enjoy. 01:19.693 --> 01:30.522 [SPEAKER_00]: And I really want 31 to be a year where I am just having fun, like genuine fun, doing things that are so out of my comfort zone that I would never picture myself doing, but... 01:31.242 --> 01:47.994 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying to discover what really makes me happy, what drives me, and it's been fun learning that, and trying to see what I can actually do about it instead of just sitting in those feelings and being like, I wish I could have done this in my 20s, or I wish I pursued this for my career, things like that. 01:48.874 --> 02:10.046 [SPEAKER_00]: So I challenge all of you to think about that as well, like what are some of the things that really drive you and get you so excited, like literally not to sound cliché and cheesy about it, but what gets you up in the morning and drives you like what is it that gets you doing that because I was talking with a friend about this the other day and how I 02:10.846 --> 02:16.270 [SPEAKER_00]: When you're getting older, it's really easy to get into this like monotonous routine. 02:16.390 --> 02:17.271 [SPEAKER_00]: We all know that. 02:17.311 --> 02:20.653 [SPEAKER_00]: We all have different responsibilities as we get older. 02:20.753 --> 02:25.516 [SPEAKER_00]: And it's so easy to put off things that we really enjoy and put them on the back burner. 02:25.556 --> 02:31.300 [SPEAKER_00]: But it's extremely vital to never lose yourself and make sure you never lose sight of those passions. 02:32.040 --> 02:38.443 [SPEAKER_00]: You never know when a new idea can come up or what might excite you and it can completely change your life. 02:39.283 --> 02:45.045 [SPEAKER_00]: And Crystal and I had actually gone to the Noakan concert last Friday when he was performing in Vancouver. 02:45.846 --> 02:47.026 [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm so glad we went. 02:47.086 --> 02:50.587 [SPEAKER_00]: We ended up getting really, really, really last minute tickets to go and it was worth it. 02:51.328 --> 02:54.949 [SPEAKER_00]: I love how queer NOAA cons fan bases too. 02:54.989 --> 02:56.750 [SPEAKER_00]: That made me really happy to see the crowd. 02:57.510 --> 02:59.491 [SPEAKER_00]: And I recently started getting into him. 02:59.651 --> 03:00.851 [SPEAKER_00]: I want to say over the last year. 03:01.392 --> 03:02.872 [SPEAKER_00]: So that concert was incredible. 03:02.892 --> 03:03.912 [SPEAKER_00]: We had such a good time. 03:04.393 --> 03:16.197 [SPEAKER_00]: But I've been seeing a lot of social media posts about how Noah Khan was really close to giving up on music because it wasn't becoming very sustainable for him to keep on pursuing this passion. 03:16.277 --> 03:19.758 [SPEAKER_00]: But he wasn't really getting that type of recognition. 03:20.458 --> 03:23.759 [SPEAKER_00]: enough for it to kind of like sustain as a full-time job. 03:24.559 --> 03:30.001 [SPEAKER_00]: And I know he really blew up because of this song, stick season on TikTok. 03:30.081 --> 03:32.862 [SPEAKER_00]: I think when he was just sampling it or something, I'm going to try and find the clip. 03:33.462 --> 03:44.386 [SPEAKER_01]: Love her mom, but it's just a season of the sticks, and I'll suck your mom and she forgot that I existed, and it's half my fault, but I just like to play the thick, I'm all drink. 03:44.886 --> 03:47.207 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't want all to my friends. 03:48.968 --> 04:04.894 [SPEAKER_00]: And it really got me thinking about if Noah Khan had given up, he would have never played the stadium show in Vancouver to like so many thousands and thousands of faces, you know, who love him who are singing along to his songs. 04:05.574 --> 04:10.176 [SPEAKER_00]: And it made me feel really grateful that he kept going at it. 04:10.256 --> 04:19.298 [SPEAKER_00]: He did it and you never know if it's going to be this one moment where you're close to kind of feeling defeated but then it finally picks up and then something happens for you. 04:19.798 --> 04:24.380 [SPEAKER_00]: And it got me feeling very inspired and made me really think about the people in my life and 04:25.200 --> 04:51.415 [SPEAKER_00]: What the people in my life love to do what I love to do things that really get me excited and how I never want to give up on those things And I hope none of you do either because you never know what's going to happen and I think we get into our heads the older we get and that You know, it might be too late for us to start this passion project or might be too late for me to like You know quit my job and want to pursue something full time somewhere else, but 04:51.935 --> 05:03.882 [SPEAKER_00]: I saw this post on TikTok that I want to read out to you because it is really important that we all know we have a place for our dreams. 05:04.283 --> 05:07.144 [SPEAKER_00]: So please don't give up on your dreams because you never know what's going to happen. 05:07.545 --> 05:08.745 [SPEAKER_00]: There's room for all of us. 05:09.065 --> 05:15.870 [SPEAKER_00]: It's not going to compare yourself to others and feel like you're not good enough or your time isn't there because it's going to come for you. 05:16.530 --> 05:19.672 [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm going to read this because it it made me really happy to see this post. 05:19.952 --> 05:28.743 [SPEAKER_00]: So it's the user Sammy Rose and in this post it says Miss Rachel had an idea in her mid 30s that sparked an entire empire. 05:29.584 --> 05:36.852 [SPEAKER_00]: So Miss Rachel was around 36 years old when she really really blew up. 05:36.932 --> 05:37.173 [SPEAKER_00]: So. 05:37.793 --> 05:43.099 [SPEAKER_00]: That's like five years from now for me, so it gets me really excited to think about that. 05:43.700 --> 05:46.923 [SPEAKER_00]: Vera Wang designed her first wedding dress at 40. 05:47.444 --> 05:50.967 [SPEAKER_00]: Her pieces are now a red carpet and celebrity wedding go to. 05:51.308 --> 05:57.875 [SPEAKER_00]: Rhea and Asylva invented the beauty blender at 41 and is now CEO of a multi-million dollar business. 05:58.955 --> 06:08.866 [SPEAKER_00]: Viola Davis achieved mainstream fame at 49, subsequently becoming an e-got winner and making history as the most Oscar-nominated Black actress. 06:09.747 --> 06:17.375 [SPEAKER_00]: Ariana Huffington launched the Huffington Post as a blog at age 55, later selling to AOL for 350 million. 06:19.517 --> 06:24.921 [SPEAKER_00]: And this is more on like the romantic scale, but Cameron Diaz met Benji Madden when she was 43. 06:25.401 --> 06:29.364 [SPEAKER_00]: They married eight months later and she gave birth to their first child at 47. 06:29.664 --> 06:43.594 [SPEAKER_00]: James Dyson spent 15 years developing 5126 failed prototypes before creating a working bagless vacuum at age 46, leading to the multi-billion dollar success of Dyson. 06:47.437 --> 06:52.160 [SPEAKER_00]: and her 50s and made history as the first woman to win Academy Award for Best Director. 06:53.301 --> 06:57.363 [SPEAKER_00]: Anna Camp of Pitch Perfect came out as bisexual in her 40s. 06:58.423 --> 07:03.746 [SPEAKER_00]: Bren Brown was in her mid 40s when her TED Talk on Vulnerability became a viral sensation. 07:04.467 --> 07:09.910 [SPEAKER_00]: So, if you're 32 to 39, you're only in season 1 of Sex and the City. 07:10.490 --> 07:14.172 [SPEAKER_00]: The average age for a woman to make a major career pivot is 39 years old. 07:15.273 --> 07:19.295 [SPEAKER_00]: the average age of a woman starting her own business is 42 years old. 07:19.715 --> 07:24.837 [SPEAKER_00]: The average age for a woman to become a millionaire ranges from 48 to 58.5 years old. 07:24.877 --> 07:25.618 [SPEAKER_00]: You have time. 07:26.198 --> 07:31.940 [SPEAKER_00]: So, I've done an episode similar to this where I was saying, you're not behind in life. 07:32.180 --> 07:34.942 [SPEAKER_00]: I think society has painted this picture for us where we think 07:35.762 --> 07:43.468 [SPEAKER_00]: we have to meet all these third goals and a lot of those goals that they kind of showcase to us are when you're in your 20s. 07:43.628 --> 07:47.571 [SPEAKER_00]: But when I think about me in my 20s, I had so much figuring out to do. 07:47.631 --> 08:01.962 [SPEAKER_00]: My brain wasn't really on that trajectory of being so goal-oriented or even if I was, you're kind of learning along the way and you're making mistakes as you go and I'm still going to be making mistakes in my 30s. 08:02.943 --> 08:09.044 [SPEAKER_00]: And that line that really hit me was saying, if you're 32 to 39, you're in your first season of sex in the city. 08:09.565 --> 08:18.547 [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like we forget that these characters on the shows who are like super successful in our portrayed this way, they're all older, right? 08:18.687 --> 08:30.570 [SPEAKER_00]: And I think I know it's a TV show, but we get a lot of inspiration from like the media we consume, and sometimes it can be completely unrealistic, but then there are times when some shows do show up 08:33.210 --> 08:40.732 [SPEAKER_00]: So, I want you to really think about, like, what do I care about? 08:41.173 --> 08:43.533 [SPEAKER_00]: And instead of, like, what do I want to do? 08:43.673 --> 08:48.155 [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like that question is kind of impossible to answer sometimes. 08:48.195 --> 08:50.415 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, there's so many things I want to do. 08:50.515 --> 08:57.598 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think there's just like one thing as humans were all just going to be doing for the rest of our lives. 08:57.638 --> 08:58.098 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, yes. 08:58.798 --> 09:09.025 [SPEAKER_00]: For example, if you're a music artist, that is probably what you're most known for, but there's so many other things and passions that you have that you should continue to pursue because it's what brings you joy. 09:09.645 --> 09:14.548 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't ever want to just have a life where I'm so hyper-focused on one thing and that's it. 09:15.089 --> 09:20.572 [SPEAKER_00]: I want to look at myself as a whole and see what am I interested in 09:22.293 --> 09:40.468 [SPEAKER_00]: How can I pour myself more into those interests and fill up my cup because that's what makes me happy and don't put so much pressure on myself to always feel like I need to be at the top of the top of my game when I'm only in my early 30s and even when I'm in my 40s, I don't really want to feel that way. 09:40.668 --> 09:42.249 [SPEAKER_00]: I feel there's so much life. 09:43.250 --> 09:55.728 [SPEAKER_00]: to live and just seeing those numbers was really really reassuring because I feel lost a lot of the time about what I'm doing, the decisions I'm making, like I can feel so solid and good about it, but we're human, right? 09:55.769 --> 09:57.351 [SPEAKER_00]: So we sometimes have these moments. 09:58.372 --> 09:59.173 [SPEAKER_00]: for context. 09:59.833 --> 10:07.438 [SPEAKER_00]: I've been hosting this podcast for five plus years and it is my number one passion project. 10:07.579 --> 10:22.529 [SPEAKER_00]: Like I love it so so much and that is why I want to keep continuing to show up and show up for the community and share my stories and my queer stories and like the vulnerability because for as long as I can remember when I was a kid I was the shyest human you probably would 10:24.070 --> 10:24.330 [SPEAKER_00]: Met. 10:24.731 --> 10:26.292 [SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, I'm still shy now. 10:26.312 --> 10:32.518 [SPEAKER_00]: I definitely have moments where I'm more confident and I'm comfortable and like, I love to have conversations. 10:32.558 --> 10:34.540 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that is why I love doing this podcast. 10:34.580 --> 10:47.572 [SPEAKER_00]: It's because I love to talk to people and I care about people and I want to hear about their stories and showcase it on the podcast, showcase more queer stories, more ally stories, just I'm open to learning about people. 10:48.032 --> 10:50.754 [SPEAKER_00]: And I've discovered that is why I love podcasts so much. 10:50.954 --> 10:58.360 [SPEAKER_00]: I love long-form conversations where it's natural, you can sit down and yes it's interviews style but it's more like you're chatting with a friend. 10:58.800 --> 11:03.904 [SPEAKER_00]: That's like my favorite content to consume and that is why as I continue to do the pod. 11:05.105 --> 11:14.394 [SPEAKER_00]: year after year, I'm noticing what kind of styles I'm really into and what kind of guests I want to get on the podcast, things like that. 11:14.875 --> 11:18.778 [SPEAKER_00]: I've been doing it for five years, but I also manage a full-time job on top of that. 11:19.419 --> 11:25.625 [SPEAKER_00]: And I'll be honest, I can get burnt out sometimes, and there's definitely times where if I'm not feeling like, 11:26.505 --> 11:29.768 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm seeing results with the podcast and I'm being very vulnerable. 11:29.848 --> 11:32.690 [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like if I'm not seeing that, it can really deter me. 11:33.350 --> 11:36.392 [SPEAKER_00]: But at the end of the day, why do I do this podcast? 11:36.532 --> 11:39.094 [SPEAKER_00]: I do it because I genuinely love it. 11:39.594 --> 11:42.136 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't do it for success. 11:42.356 --> 11:43.597 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't do it for views. 11:43.697 --> 11:46.539 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't do it for like engagement numbers. 11:46.559 --> 11:51.122 [SPEAKER_00]: Like while those are also so important, and my dream would be to 11:52.067 --> 11:58.813 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, really take this podcast somewhere and interview all types of people and have it be something that could be my main focus. 11:59.694 --> 12:03.257 [SPEAKER_00]: I always tend to remind myself, why are you doing it in the first place? 12:03.317 --> 12:12.785 [SPEAKER_00]: And if it's coming from a genuine place and it's coming from something that really drives you and it's your passion, then keep doing it, do not give up because there is a place for you. 12:13.586 --> 12:15.308 [SPEAKER_00]: And that is how I... 12:16.008 --> 12:33.852 [SPEAKER_00]: feel I really really feel and like there's been breaks here and there for sure like listeners who been listening to the pots since 2021 you know like I've taken some breaks here and there to sometimes like do a little mental reset try to reframe it it's been rebranded as room for us and I think that's important to do too. 12:34.452 --> 12:36.735 [SPEAKER_00]: always take care of your mental health first. 12:36.895 --> 12:37.897 [SPEAKER_00]: That goes without saying. 12:38.097 --> 12:51.955 [SPEAKER_00]: We always need to be checking in on ourselves, but at the same time, sometimes we also need that push and we need to be held accountable because the worst thing you could ever do is give up and to bring it back to know a con. 12:52.555 --> 12:53.655 [SPEAKER_00]: Imagine if he did give up. 12:54.356 --> 13:05.820 [SPEAKER_00]: Imagine if Noah Khan decided, I don't think this music thing is for me anymore because I'm not seeing the results I need to really pursue this as a full-time career. 13:07.440 --> 13:14.223 [SPEAKER_00]: That would be so detrimental because like what a talent and there are so many amazing talents out there. 13:14.923 --> 13:20.225 [SPEAKER_00]: And I feel for people because the creative industry is extremely hard to break into. 13:20.785 --> 13:22.826 [SPEAKER_00]: But I think consistency pays off. 13:23.466 --> 13:30.008 [SPEAKER_00]: I think there's a place for people who really, really want it, and they will do anything they can to get it. 13:30.769 --> 13:39.532 [SPEAKER_00]: And I am just so grateful that he didn't get up because I mean, look at his career trajectory. 13:39.592 --> 13:40.632 [SPEAKER_00]: When he came to Vancouver, 13:41.132 --> 13:50.595 [SPEAKER_00]: He mentioned he's actually been to Vancouver a few times and has performed here a few times, and I really wish I would have seen him then because how amazing would it have been to see Noah in like a much more intimate setting? 13:51.315 --> 13:59.617 [SPEAKER_00]: But Noah having his viral moment with Stix season, like he had albums prior to that, and then now he's playing at stadiums. 14:00.157 --> 14:01.618 [SPEAKER_00]: Like what a cool story. 14:01.898 --> 14:11.382 [SPEAKER_00]: And even before Noah Con, Crystal and I went to go see the beaches and they were playing at like the summer nights concert series in Vancouver. 14:11.422 --> 14:12.383 [SPEAKER_00]: They do it at the PNE. 14:13.343 --> 14:13.763 [SPEAKER_00]: Amazing. 14:13.883 --> 14:14.604 [SPEAKER_00]: Amazing venue. 14:14.944 --> 14:15.804 [SPEAKER_00]: I love that venue. 14:15.824 --> 14:19.546 [SPEAKER_00]: You can actually see the mountains like in the background as the beaches were performing. 14:20.126 --> 14:24.792 [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm also so proud to see where the beaches career has taken them to. 14:25.312 --> 14:27.835 [SPEAKER_00]: They've been performing forever. 14:28.075 --> 14:31.119 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, since they were honestly like, pretty teens, I'm pretty sure. 14:31.179 --> 14:37.986 [SPEAKER_00]: And I remember Leandra Earl joined the beaches a little bit later, but they were still like maybe in the late teens at that point, maybe younger. 14:38.727 --> 14:46.090 [SPEAKER_00]: but they really had that like prominent success and I'd say like international global success with the song, Blame Brett. 14:46.710 --> 14:53.413 [SPEAKER_00]: And sometimes it does just take that like viral moment to really, really stick and things just take off for where you're meant to be. 14:54.113 --> 14:58.894 [SPEAKER_00]: And once again, the beaches had really made themselves this prominent band in Canada at that time. 14:59.314 --> 15:03.735 [SPEAKER_00]: But now, look at the level they've, they're on right now and they're doing world tours. 15:03.855 --> 15:05.075 [SPEAKER_00]: It's so, so cool to see. 15:05.175 --> 15:17.518 [SPEAKER_00]: And I just love a success story like that where so many of the artists that we've seen or actors that we've grown up loving, we're not like these overnight successes. 15:17.738 --> 15:19.218 [SPEAKER_00]: That rarely really happens. 15:20.298 --> 15:29.811 [SPEAKER_00]: I truly think like the people you admire and the people whose careers you've watched have been around for so long and they've been working at it. 15:29.931 --> 15:37.482 [SPEAKER_00]: They've been really, really doing the work and trying to put themselves out there and they're like sticking to their passions. 15:38.302 --> 15:47.670 [SPEAKER_00]: And it just got me feeling really, really inspired, and I looked into myself about what are the things I love to do and why I can't ever give up. 15:47.850 --> 15:53.175 [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm just so happy to see the community that this podcast has brought me. 15:53.355 --> 15:56.598 [SPEAKER_00]: This like niche, queer community we have. 15:56.738 --> 15:59.400 [SPEAKER_00]: I've made like genuine friendships off of this podcast. 15:59.881 --> 16:02.182 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm so happy to have been able to have a platform where 16:02.923 --> 16:10.228 [SPEAKER_00]: you know, I've been able to interview some amazing people and they can tell their story on the pod to connection is my favorite thing. 16:10.248 --> 16:14.651 [SPEAKER_00]: I think that's what makes the world so beautiful is the people who make it, right? 16:14.711 --> 16:21.256 [SPEAKER_00]: I think we get so caught up in like social media and trends and things that are happening like so quickly and 16:22.016 --> 16:29.542 [SPEAKER_00]: I just don't want us to ever get out of touch or like lose the things that mean a lot to us. 16:29.882 --> 16:34.205 [SPEAKER_00]: And don't try to fit yourself into where the world is operating at right now. 16:34.345 --> 16:40.670 [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like there's such a pressure to do that, especially with the idea of how you can now become really prominent. 16:41.150 --> 16:42.691 [SPEAKER_00]: on the internet on your own. 16:42.771 --> 16:51.794 [SPEAKER_00]: It's different than how it was in the earlier 2000s or trying to example have a podcast or podcast didn't even exist really, right? 16:51.814 --> 17:02.918 [SPEAKER_00]: It used to be like radio shows and nowadays like people can be hosting their own podcasts getting it on these platforms and recording in the comfort of their own home. 17:03.118 --> 17:03.358 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, 17:03.998 --> 17:07.019 [SPEAKER_00]: That's how girl-long girl Sasha room for us was born. 17:07.059 --> 17:15.704 [SPEAKER_00]: It was literally, you know, recording over Zoom and just posting it on the internet and seeing if people really resonate with your content. 17:16.224 --> 17:20.106 [SPEAKER_00]: I think that is the really beautiful thing about social media is that we have 17:20.906 --> 17:23.369 [SPEAKER_00]: this access to do the things we really want to do. 17:24.470 --> 17:31.077 [SPEAKER_00]: So instead of like trying to just keep up with it or you know, I get in my head a lot sometimes with social media. 17:31.197 --> 17:32.759 [SPEAKER_00]: I sometimes feel like I'm not doing enough. 17:32.799 --> 17:33.800 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not showing up enough. 17:34.280 --> 17:35.281 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm feeling burnt out. 17:35.362 --> 17:35.522 [SPEAKER_00]: But 17:36.022 --> 17:41.804 [SPEAKER_00]: All I can do is keep trying to show up as best as I can, and as authentically as I can, and keep sharing my story. 17:42.644 --> 17:55.368 [SPEAKER_00]: And I really just wanted to say that for this episode, really, I am kind of just like talking freely right now, but, you know, I want to look back on all these episodes and feel... 17:56.468 --> 18:19.167 [SPEAKER_00]: So grateful for watching like the five years of a journey I've been on with the pod and how it also helped me like become so comfortable We're talking about my queerness and meeting other queer people and you know, we still need that representation and I just really hope that it is doing something and I hope that 18:20.468 --> 18:25.631 [SPEAKER_00]: people do feel seen when they hear stories coming from me as an Indian Canadian. 18:26.091 --> 18:29.333 [SPEAKER_00]: And I just have to keep reminding myself, I'm only 30. 18:29.813 --> 18:30.633 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm only 30. 18:30.874 --> 18:34.616 [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like I'm becoming old, but I'm not. 18:34.816 --> 18:39.078 [SPEAKER_00]: Literally everyone I talk to is like 30s are a really, really good decade. 18:39.318 --> 19:03.897 [SPEAKER_00]: It's not the decade where you have everything figured out and that makes me feel good because I definitely don't have it all figured out and I feel I get into these mindsets sometimes where I think I need to but we're all trying our best and that's all that matters but what I will say is just keep doing you keep showing up for the things that you love to do and you never know where life is going to take you. 19:04.878 --> 19:12.504 [SPEAKER_00]: One minute you could be, you know, dedicating yourself to this one type of career and then the next year you can be completely pivoting at 40. 19:13.105 --> 19:22.172 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the possibilities are endless, so that's what I want to encourage you all today, just like sit back and think about what are the things you genuinely enjoy. 19:23.793 --> 19:41.118 [SPEAKER_00]: like is there something that could even like help your inner child come out and it's something maybe you love to do but you didn't have the money for it or you were nervous or there was like social pressures or family pressures to like pursue something else you know the world is a much more beautiful place with art and 19:41.758 --> 19:53.348 [SPEAKER_00]: And creativity, it would be so boring without it, so like thank you to everyone who's constantly pushing themselves and doing it and putting some beautiful stuff out there, we need it, we always need more content. 19:53.768 --> 19:57.792 [SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, this episode is just kind of a reminder of that. 19:57.872 --> 20:02.616 [SPEAKER_00]: Just keep going, keep doing it, and just never ever give up on your dreams. 20:02.876 --> 20:04.398 [SPEAKER_00]: This was a very, very many rant. 20:04.458 --> 20:09.162 [SPEAKER_00]: But if you're listening to this, if you're commuting, if you're going on a walk, 20:10.083 --> 20:16.074 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, I just really want you to know that please, please don't give up because we need talents like yours. 20:16.455 --> 20:20.442 [SPEAKER_00]: As always, thank you so much for tuning into the podcast and I will see you all next week.