WEBVTT 00:00.171 --> 00:10.739 [SPEAKER_00]: This episode of True's Table is brought to you by our NAACP Image Award-nominated book, True's Table, Black Women's Musings on Life, Love, and Liberation. 00:11.140 --> 00:12.661 [SPEAKER_00]: Get it where all books are sold. 00:16.150 --> 00:17.491 [SPEAKER_04]: Brothers, y'all all right. 00:17.871 --> 00:21.112 [SPEAKER_04]: If this is your first time at Truth's Table, welcome to the table. 00:21.313 --> 00:23.854 [SPEAKER_04]: And you've been sitting at the table with us all these years. 00:24.114 --> 00:27.276 [SPEAKER_04]: We are so grateful that you have been listening to us through these years. 00:27.336 --> 00:33.799 [SPEAKER_04]: And we are inviting you to partner with us and support our work at patreon.com slash Truth's Table. 00:34.079 --> 00:37.080 [SPEAKER_04]: Now pull up a chair and have a seat at the table with us. 00:37.761 --> 00:39.121 [SPEAKER_04]: Hey y'all, welcome to Truth's Table. 00:39.161 --> 00:40.582 [SPEAKER_04]: May wise and call you for grace and truth. 00:40.662 --> 00:42.163 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm a cabinet, and I'm Christina. 00:42.383 --> 00:44.665 [SPEAKER_04]: This table is goodbye black woman and far black woman. 00:44.685 --> 00:45.666 [SPEAKER_04]: So welcome to the table. 00:45.686 --> 00:46.647 [SPEAKER_04]: See how you doing. 00:46.787 --> 00:48.109 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm doing good today. 00:48.169 --> 01:00.100 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's you know, I'm always jazz when we have someone with us at the table, you know, and especially when we have like a creative, you know, an artist. 01:00.300 --> 01:03.443 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes amongst us, you know, because they inspire everybody. 01:03.544 --> 01:03.764 [SPEAKER_04]: Yes. 01:04.224 --> 01:04.965 [SPEAKER_04]: Absolutely. 01:05.065 --> 01:13.972 [SPEAKER_04]: And we are honored and so happy to have our sister, our new sister, our sister, 10 at the table with us. 01:14.052 --> 01:14.732 [SPEAKER_04]: How are you doing? 01:14.932 --> 01:16.594 [SPEAKER_03]: Hi, ladies. 01:16.734 --> 01:18.315 [SPEAKER_03]: So good to see y'all again. 01:18.395 --> 01:20.817 [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you for bringing all your black girl matching to the table. 01:20.857 --> 01:21.938 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, what else was going on? 01:21.958 --> 01:23.879 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's interesting to tell you. 01:23.919 --> 01:25.380 [SPEAKER_01]: Listen to y'all listening. 01:25.400 --> 01:27.662 [SPEAKER_01]: You need to go and watch the video as well. 01:27.682 --> 01:28.083 [SPEAKER_04]: Yes. 01:28.103 --> 01:29.183 [SPEAKER_04]: You got to appreciate the 01:34.247 --> 01:38.988 [SPEAKER_04]: And she is so talented and let me tell you a little stuff about 10 and then we're going to get into our conversation. 01:39.008 --> 01:39.329 [SPEAKER_04]: All right. 01:40.209 --> 01:51.252 [SPEAKER_04]: 10 found her voice as a kid on Chicago's West Side singing along to cartoon theme songs until a run that stopped her cousin in his tracks and he told her she has some special. 01:52.032 --> 02:05.222 [SPEAKER_04]: From there, she's saying everywhere Black Party school events, basketball games, before forming her first group with family and friends, they're independently recorded albums sold over 2000 copies in Chicago, entirely outside the system. 02:05.262 --> 02:13.689 [SPEAKER_04]: Come on now, a full basketball scholarship pulled her toward athletics, but a career ending injury center all the way back to music and she rebuilt from there. 02:14.089 --> 02:18.673 [SPEAKER_04]: And Atlanta, she founded a tenet music group, spent seven years 02:22.075 --> 02:39.059 [SPEAKER_04]: Kevin Schein, shared stages with Angie Stone, but loud, music soul child and Rahim Devon, and appeared on National Television via America's Got Talent, the voice 25, in Nashville, she became a certified audio engineer come on at S.A.E. 02:39.199 --> 02:43.260 [SPEAKER_04]: Institute to take full creative control of her sound and that she does y'all. 02:43.520 --> 02:48.681 [SPEAKER_04]: For writing, performing, producing, mixing, and mastering her own catalog, her debut single, 02:51.902 --> 02:53.683 [SPEAKER_04]: 2025. 02:53.784 --> 02:55.845 [SPEAKER_04]: Welcome to the table, Ted. 02:56.205 --> 02:58.928 [SPEAKER_03]: Hat girl, you make me grab my beat all the time. 02:58.948 --> 03:00.168 [SPEAKER_01]: You did all the time. 03:00.209 --> 03:01.109 [SPEAKER_01]: Are you feeling tired? 03:01.129 --> 03:11.337 [SPEAKER_03]: Sometimes you look, sometimes you forget all of the accomplishments that you've done and so many years, but when you hear it out loud, it just takes you back to the hard work. 03:11.417 --> 03:12.518 [SPEAKER_03]: So thank you. 03:12.618 --> 03:14.179 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I'm so proud. 03:14.400 --> 03:14.940 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yes. 03:15.200 --> 03:15.741 [SPEAKER_04]: You're welcome. 03:15.761 --> 03:19.083 [SPEAKER_04]: We believe in giving y'all our sisters at the table of the flowers. 03:19.103 --> 03:19.844 [SPEAKER_04]: That's why we are. 03:21.765 --> 03:23.087 [UNKNOWN]: So appreciate that. 03:23.608 --> 03:25.511 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, so Christina, come on. 03:26.212 --> 03:27.674 [SPEAKER_01]: Can we introduce? 03:27.854 --> 03:30.097 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I think about honestly, all of those accomplishments. 03:30.157 --> 03:31.799 [SPEAKER_01]: Each one has a story behind it. 03:31.819 --> 03:32.300 [SPEAKER_01]: A story. 03:32.380 --> 03:32.981 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no. 03:33.101 --> 03:33.942 [SPEAKER_01]: Each has a journey. 03:34.283 --> 03:35.665 [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm sure something even has tears. 03:36.280 --> 03:37.321 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh my god. 03:37.341 --> 03:39.102 [SPEAKER_01]: That's a test, isn't it? 03:39.222 --> 03:40.043 [SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean? 03:40.083 --> 03:40.764 [SPEAKER_01]: That's your bio. 03:40.784 --> 03:44.427 [SPEAKER_01]: But why don't you introduce yourself to us off page? 03:45.187 --> 03:45.948 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I love that. 03:45.988 --> 03:46.949 [SPEAKER_03]: Nobody's ever asked that. 03:47.229 --> 03:47.949 [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you. 03:48.530 --> 03:57.517 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, a game my name is, Tenette Smith, but AKA Tenette Smith, for sure, because Cano about a game my name, but I don't know what to be in today. 03:57.597 --> 03:59.979 [SPEAKER_04]: It's just a, it's a unique name, it's beautiful. 04:00.419 --> 04:10.547 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so yes, I was born and raised on the west side of Chicago and I was born my mom was a single parent and I have four sisters that I grew up with. 04:10.567 --> 04:17.292 [SPEAKER_03]: So I know all about that sister Oh, good and love, fine and I'll get all of that. 04:17.312 --> 04:17.912 [SPEAKER_02]: That's the thing. 04:18.112 --> 04:20.014 [SPEAKER_03]: It made me the person I am today. 04:20.054 --> 04:21.175 [SPEAKER_03]: I know how to do this beat. 04:21.955 --> 04:25.576 [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, I was like, man, I was like, yeah, I can imagine. 04:25.616 --> 04:27.697 [SPEAKER_04]: I was an old woman, I was so too, yep, yep, yeah. 04:27.717 --> 04:40.361 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, yes, you know, I was a Tom Boy, I was athletic, you know, I played basketball in the community and then I got a full scholarship planned in high school, I went to college, Malcolm X College. 04:40.381 --> 04:40.601 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 04:41.142 --> 04:43.782 [SPEAKER_03]: And I played there, graduated with my degree. 04:44.082 --> 04:45.063 [SPEAKER_03]: I had about three degrees. 04:45.763 --> 04:48.025 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I just don't like your average buck woman. 04:48.065 --> 04:49.245 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 04:49.265 --> 05:00.593 [SPEAKER_03]: We got a lot of stuff in it, so after that, I ended up falling in love my first love, and then it became domestic, and I became a domestic violence survivor. 05:00.813 --> 05:01.493 [SPEAKER_03]: Wow. 05:01.553 --> 05:05.876 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, and it was such a moment in my life at the age of 25. 05:06.536 --> 05:10.339 [SPEAKER_03]: And I decided to leave Chicago to kind of get a fresh start. 05:10.379 --> 05:10.679 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. 05:11.400 --> 05:14.762 [SPEAKER_03]: And my left went to Atlanta, Joel, and Jay. 05:15.462 --> 05:16.823 [SPEAKER_03]: you know, I saw that. 05:16.883 --> 05:17.603 [SPEAKER_03]: Excellent. 05:18.324 --> 05:26.709 [SPEAKER_03]: I really felt myself as a black woman in Atlanta to see different versions of us, successful, looking gorgeous, beautiful, powerful. 05:26.809 --> 05:30.832 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, it was just an incredible experience here as a girl when I was there. 05:31.672 --> 05:35.134 [SPEAKER_03]: And I was there and I grew in it up being developed. 05:35.254 --> 05:38.035 [SPEAKER_03]: I had met a writing group called Writing Sessions America. 05:38.515 --> 05:53.722 [SPEAKER_03]: See, Oh Kevin Shawna, he took me under his wing and mentored me for about six or seven years and taught me songwriting, taught me the business, taught me how to handle myself and wounds and just artists development, you know, beautiful. 05:53.742 --> 05:55.263 [SPEAKER_03]: For this career that I had now. 05:55.683 --> 06:00.085 [SPEAKER_03]: And once I graduated from that program, I ended up moving to Nashville. 06:00.845 --> 06:04.026 [SPEAKER_03]: And, um, Nashville, I know people like, how you get to an edge for you? 06:04.647 --> 06:09.269 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I met an awesome guy his name was Taylor, and he's a kind of black country singer. 06:09.649 --> 06:12.450 [SPEAKER_03]: I met him on Season 25 of the Voice. 06:12.830 --> 06:13.050 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 06:13.110 --> 06:15.031 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, I made it out of millions of people. 06:15.171 --> 06:15.931 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, you did. 06:15.971 --> 06:16.772 [SPEAKER_03]: Come on, show them. 06:16.852 --> 06:19.713 [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm still like, well, she's the businessman. 06:21.574 --> 06:28.620 [SPEAKER_03]: I met him on the show and he was like, you need to come to Nashville and I was like, ain't no black people in Nashville. 06:29.020 --> 06:29.761 [SPEAKER_03]: He's an out black. 06:35.325 --> 06:41.090 [SPEAKER_03]: And I was just like, okay, so I went to the CMA festival and when I say it was so empowering. 06:41.371 --> 06:41.791 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, come on. 06:41.831 --> 06:48.677 [SPEAKER_03]: To see the fan, Phantom of the country fans and how they just, with soldiers, it just everywhere. 06:48.697 --> 06:52.401 [SPEAKER_03]: And when I walked down the street, they were just, oh my god, it's 10. 06:52.421 --> 06:54.923 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, oh, my god, famus, I had it coming in. 06:55.023 --> 06:55.944 [SPEAKER_03]: That's so cool. 06:57.085 --> 06:59.166 [SPEAKER_03]: Why do you make it like this? 06:59.206 --> 06:59.946 [SPEAKER_03]: That's cool. 07:00.006 --> 07:09.469 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so I literally just packed up my car, I was in school at the time at SAE, in school again for my degree, because I'm all about further in my education. 07:09.529 --> 07:09.889 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. 07:10.049 --> 07:11.869 [SPEAKER_03]: So that I can, you know, be in a black woman. 07:12.010 --> 07:16.571 [SPEAKER_03]: I can actually know what I know in the room and be of the value everywhere, you know. 07:17.151 --> 07:18.613 [SPEAKER_03]: So I ended up transferring. 07:18.673 --> 07:20.816 [SPEAKER_03]: I found out the same schools in Nashville. 07:21.036 --> 07:25.141 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, pack my bags and then I had a car It's funny on my way. 07:25.362 --> 07:31.389 [SPEAKER_03]: Wow, a two-nage of someone hit the back of my car and I was frustrated I was like, oh my god, I'm trying to get to Nashville. 07:31.409 --> 07:34.914 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so the guy gets out in my car wasn't really damaged anything 07:35.394 --> 07:38.515 [SPEAKER_03]: And he said, hey, I'd have $2500. 07:38.995 --> 07:42.977 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, if you just don't court it, you is yo money. 07:42.997 --> 07:44.578 [SPEAKER_03]: He's all he literally counting the money out. 07:44.898 --> 07:51.720 [SPEAKER_03]: And the day before I wrote on my vision board that I needed $2500 to get my place in Nashville. 07:51.760 --> 07:52.621 [SPEAKER_03]: Wow, I made it. 07:52.661 --> 07:53.441 [SPEAKER_03]: Hey, God made it. 07:53.481 --> 07:54.662 [SPEAKER_04]: That's a good God. 07:54.762 --> 07:56.822 [SPEAKER_03]: It was a beautiful, it was a good moment. 07:56.842 --> 07:58.723 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, that was absolutely very specific. 07:58.863 --> 07:59.383 [SPEAKER_03]: Very, very specific. 07:59.403 --> 08:00.864 [SPEAKER_03]: That's very specific, that's very specific. 08:00.904 --> 08:03.205 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm gonna faint it and then I looked at the back of his car. 08:03.525 --> 08:09.047 [SPEAKER_03]: Because with the back of the car saying, Nasville, Tennessee, you see Wow, Nasville, Tennessee. 08:09.067 --> 08:15.549 [SPEAKER_03]: It's we were the one who wanted you and it confirmed and that's when I was like, I'm going to Tennessee with a story. 08:15.569 --> 08:17.349 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and I packed up and moved. 08:17.429 --> 08:22.871 [SPEAKER_03]: I drove four hours and I mean, just looking back at the skyline drive and I get emotional now. 08:23.471 --> 08:25.913 [SPEAKER_03]: leaving that city because I was there for 20 years. 08:26.053 --> 08:26.793 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's a lot. 08:26.813 --> 08:32.717 [SPEAKER_03]: And I created my life there, you know, when you were somewhere that long, I was a vegan for 18 years. 08:33.558 --> 08:36.640 [SPEAKER_03]: And it's such a very healthy city everywhere you go. 08:36.660 --> 08:38.681 [SPEAKER_03]: That was a vegan restaurant or every corner. 08:39.162 --> 08:41.883 [SPEAKER_03]: Anything, any food you can get it, you know? 08:42.364 --> 08:44.905 [SPEAKER_03]: So moving the Nashville, I didn't do any research. 08:44.946 --> 08:46.006 [SPEAKER_03]: I just followed God. 08:46.607 --> 08:48.548 [SPEAKER_03]: And I got here, it was Holly, no vegan. 08:49.228 --> 08:50.709 [SPEAKER_03]: I was like, what am I gonna do? 08:50.729 --> 08:51.470 [SPEAKER_03]: I can't cook. 08:52.111 --> 08:54.373 [SPEAKER_02]: And then I was like, I'm like, I'm shaking for you. 08:54.593 --> 08:56.255 [SPEAKER_03]: And then I started getting heartburn. 08:56.496 --> 08:57.757 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, what is heartburn? 08:58.298 --> 08:59.719 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, what's in my doctor? 08:59.759 --> 09:01.361 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, I don't know what this thing is. 09:01.942 --> 09:03.243 [SPEAKER_03]: Never had it before. 09:03.444 --> 09:04.705 [SPEAKER_03]: It's the awfulest thing. 09:04.745 --> 09:05.967 [SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no, no. 09:06.407 --> 09:10.292 [SPEAKER_03]: But you know, God pushes you, because sometimes you pray for things and say, God, 09:10.732 --> 09:11.713 [SPEAKER_03]: I really want to be healthy. 09:11.733 --> 09:16.957 [SPEAKER_03]: I want to be myself efficient when it comes to my health and that pushing me to learn how to cook. 09:16.977 --> 09:18.838 [SPEAKER_03]: So I took some cooking classes. 09:18.858 --> 09:23.762 [SPEAKER_03]: What a beautiful start it watching things in creating in meal prepping. 09:24.242 --> 09:25.783 [SPEAKER_03]: So I do that now from home. 09:25.823 --> 09:28.866 [SPEAKER_03]: So I cook my own food and stuff like that. 09:28.886 --> 09:29.006 [SPEAKER_03]: So 09:29.566 --> 09:32.828 [SPEAKER_03]: moving the Nashville really up my life style. 09:32.948 --> 09:37.950 [SPEAKER_03]: Also, push me to be comfortable with being uncomfortable in a new space. 09:38.131 --> 09:38.731 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh sure. 09:38.751 --> 09:44.314 [SPEAKER_03]: There's no really the soul space is not fully developed here in the city. 09:44.334 --> 09:45.294 [SPEAKER_03]: That's true. 09:45.354 --> 09:48.996 [SPEAKER_03]: Because it's a lot of country music and commercials, the pop stuff. 09:49.416 --> 09:56.040 [SPEAKER_03]: So me coming out here, I've sparked such a light, you know, because people who had never seen anything like me. 09:56.680 --> 10:08.168 [SPEAKER_03]: And then I came really boldly and then I'm a good energy, you know, you know, some people are, because I'm pretty dope, you know, but sometimes are, you know, to be in a way of things and it could turn people off. 10:08.249 --> 10:09.229 [SPEAKER_03]: That's to be in the black one. 10:09.289 --> 10:09.930 [SPEAKER_04]: I love the confidence. 10:09.950 --> 10:12.672 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, being too confident can come off a little. 10:13.192 --> 10:13.852 [SPEAKER_03]: deviation. 10:13.913 --> 10:16.754 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, if you don't have a balance, well, I'm thankful for God. 10:17.635 --> 10:18.675 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm being the balance. 10:18.975 --> 10:24.218 [SPEAKER_03]: The praise in the love and the in the peace, the efficiency of what I know. 10:25.019 --> 10:26.099 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm here on this earth forest. 10:26.139 --> 10:29.501 [SPEAKER_03]: So Nashville has been a light for me. 10:29.601 --> 10:30.462 [SPEAKER_03]: I've been there for them. 10:30.782 --> 10:36.489 [SPEAKER_04]: I love that God is the source of your confidence, but also the counter balance to keep us humble too. 10:36.629 --> 10:37.390 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, humble. 10:37.830 --> 10:41.154 [SPEAKER_03]: It also confident, you know, and you're probably going to try it. 10:41.655 --> 10:42.836 [SPEAKER_04]: Hello, exactly. 10:43.277 --> 10:45.940 [SPEAKER_04]: I know that when we first met you, just a couple of things going on. 10:46.758 --> 11:13.912 [SPEAKER_04]: You know, we were just, you know, drawn also just to your, I love your vibrancy, your style is all very vibrant, you know, um, and from, I mean, from the head to the toe, so I was like, yeah, every, every head to toe, you know, 10 has a unique style, you know, and you come into the room and you command the attention and I love that, but also very, how can I say warm humble open. 11:14.852 --> 11:16.675 [SPEAKER_04]: you know, to people. 11:16.695 --> 11:18.057 [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, you're very accomplished. 11:19.038 --> 11:29.251 [SPEAKER_04]: And so when we, in the setting that we met, we were at a songwriting retreat because y'all, Tuesday, but has very many creative pursuits. 11:29.972 --> 11:32.654 [SPEAKER_04]: We're doing a lot of, we're the queen of the side quests. 11:32.955 --> 11:34.876 [SPEAKER_04]: Is that like, we're the side quests. 11:34.896 --> 11:35.757 [SPEAKER_01]: It's really a journey. 11:35.977 --> 11:38.959 [SPEAKER_04]: We're on a journey, okay, and it's a wild ride. 11:39.280 --> 11:44.263 [SPEAKER_04]: You know, but we found ourselves in the same room with Tim, and we've been blessed to know so many different people. 11:44.884 --> 11:53.491 [SPEAKER_04]: And we had the opportunity, you know, to write a song together, but I thought that even before we wrote this song, we talked about what true tables about. 11:54.011 --> 12:02.418 [SPEAKER_04]: what you take a foundation was about and something that you echoed back to us was, I think you and you correct me. 12:02.818 --> 12:15.308 [SPEAKER_04]: But with the our confidence in who our audience is who we serve, who we minister to and how on apologetic we were that it's black women. 12:15.828 --> 12:19.991 [SPEAKER_04]: And it's for Blackwood and the advocacy of that. 12:20.031 --> 12:23.274 [SPEAKER_04]: Can you talk to us about how that spoke to you? 12:23.294 --> 12:27.737 [SPEAKER_04]: Because you said, yeah, for some of you, you felt like you were seen in that room. 12:27.817 --> 12:31.160 [SPEAKER_04]: If I remember that correctly, and I'm just curious about it. 12:31.200 --> 12:31.940 [SPEAKER_04]: If you could share that. 12:32.180 --> 12:32.921 [SPEAKER_04]: We'll talk to you. 12:33.141 --> 12:36.204 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, first of all, I want to give a shout out to the common people. 12:36.284 --> 12:38.687 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I just bought us together, yeah. 12:38.747 --> 12:39.848 [SPEAKER_03]: It's just a blessing. 12:39.868 --> 12:45.514 [SPEAKER_03]: I feel like because of my energy and spirit, I was able to attract such a gorgeous group of people. 12:45.794 --> 12:46.415 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 12:46.515 --> 12:47.216 [SPEAKER_03]: Very godly. 12:47.256 --> 12:54.103 [SPEAKER_03]: A lot of them are a spiritual leader from around the world and coming and being accepted in that space. 12:54.643 --> 12:56.044 [SPEAKER_03]: was just incredible. 12:56.305 --> 12:59.807 [SPEAKER_03]: It made me feel like all of the work that I've been doing. 12:59.827 --> 13:07.873 [SPEAKER_03]: It's starting to pay off because now you're attracting the community to support your way of thinking and your way of dating. 13:07.893 --> 13:18.762 [SPEAKER_03]: So being in that circle and meeting you guys, it was a reflection of me, you know, seeing two beautiful black women who came in with confidence knowing what they wanted. 13:18.842 --> 13:21.164 [SPEAKER_03]: Instead of no business, they're like, this is what it is. 13:22.184 --> 13:25.225 [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm like, yes, this is, that's very true. 13:25.245 --> 13:30.186 [SPEAKER_03]: That's such a, and then you guys had such a useful fun energy. 13:30.426 --> 13:34.947 [SPEAKER_03]: It was just the best song writing experience I ever had, working with a client. 13:35.048 --> 13:42.549 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, it didn't feel like work, it felt like a collaboration, it felt like freedom, it felt like I was making the song for me too. 13:43.070 --> 13:44.310 [SPEAKER_03]: It was just for that. 13:44.390 --> 13:44.490 [SPEAKER_03]: You 13:44.730 --> 13:59.260 [SPEAKER_03]: You made me feel involved, and you guys were involved where I was able to get you guys to do some vocals and You're part of like literally a part of the stand in the tenets and I'm going to get into our first scene 14:02.502 --> 14:04.303 [SPEAKER_03]: But yes, so yes, I did. 14:04.383 --> 14:11.385 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, as a moment where we were playing the songs and showing everybody what we did and it was a song that was played. 14:11.405 --> 14:25.469 [SPEAKER_03]: I can't remember the name, but it really touched me in a way where I was dealing with, I always call it kind of kid-like, pasta, I'm just making some note right now. 14:25.489 --> 14:26.630 [SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no, no, no, no. 14:27.890 --> 14:30.373 [SPEAKER_03]: But it was like I had this inner child. 14:31.134 --> 14:32.315 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, it's an inner sense. 14:32.335 --> 14:36.079 [SPEAKER_03]: This inner child in me that was trying to find that way. 14:36.340 --> 14:41.966 [SPEAKER_03]: Because being in this business and the male driven business sometimes in a black chocolate woman. 14:42.366 --> 14:43.628 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. 14:43.668 --> 14:44.989 [SPEAKER_03]: You get torn down a lot. 14:45.029 --> 14:46.030 [SPEAKER_03]: You get to come up. 14:46.130 --> 14:48.133 [SPEAKER_03]: You too dark or you got to work harder. 14:48.773 --> 14:51.094 [SPEAKER_03]: Um, you're never good enough too much. 14:51.174 --> 14:55.897 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, or if you speak up, you, you, you to people are turned off, you can't take up for you. 14:55.917 --> 15:01.700 [SPEAKER_03]: So you become small and small in those spaces until you lose yourself and lose your voice. 15:02.000 --> 15:02.321 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 15:02.461 --> 15:07.363 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, and then I grew up in that, in that world where they didn't allow me to grow unto a woman. 15:07.804 --> 15:09.364 [SPEAKER_03]: I had to stay a kid all the time. 15:09.384 --> 15:13.687 [SPEAKER_03]: I had to look, you know, and I had to portray this youthful person and then, 15:14.207 --> 15:14.548 [SPEAKER_03]: mental. 15:14.568 --> 15:28.342 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know what I'm looking at, but mentally, I think I should be able to express myself where I'm at as a 40-year-old woman and they're always having to dumb myself down to be in present and wrong. 15:28.442 --> 15:28.823 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 15:28.983 --> 15:30.945 [SPEAKER_03]: So it took a toll on me. 15:31.045 --> 15:31.185 [SPEAKER_04]: Wow. 15:31.225 --> 15:32.506 [SPEAKER_04]: It really did in that room. 15:37.051 --> 15:53.341 [SPEAKER_03]: Just that that's why music is so powerful and so transcendent and we have to be careful and take full accountability of what we're creating Come on because that one song because they took full accountability Hilled me in that moment, and you know, I had my little Barney, you know, I have to do Caram. 15:53.361 --> 15:56.143 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and music was beautiful that was created. 15:56.203 --> 15:59.005 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it was it was it was incredible and I'm just 15:59.765 --> 16:04.848 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm just blessed to have met you guys because I feel like we created the song. 16:04.888 --> 16:05.688 [SPEAKER_03]: It's so beautiful. 16:05.768 --> 16:07.369 [SPEAKER_03]: It's so transcending. 16:07.429 --> 16:08.250 [SPEAKER_03]: It's for everybody. 16:08.270 --> 16:09.130 [SPEAKER_03]: It's not just for us. 16:09.330 --> 16:09.510 [SPEAKER_03]: No. 16:09.650 --> 16:15.854 [SPEAKER_03]: It's just for women and people who want to gather, come together and just create community. 16:16.114 --> 16:17.935 [SPEAKER_03]: What they all got, and what they themselves. 16:18.755 --> 16:19.095 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 16:19.335 --> 16:19.975 [SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely. 16:19.995 --> 16:20.195 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 16:20.275 --> 16:22.716 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it, it was a joy connecting with you. 16:23.176 --> 16:24.196 [SPEAKER_01]: And we've had other opportunities. 16:24.216 --> 16:25.737 [SPEAKER_01]: We've been to other songwriting retreats. 16:25.797 --> 16:29.938 [SPEAKER_01]: And usually, when I'm present, I, they might ask like, you know, I'll teach them a type of fiction. 16:29.958 --> 16:32.058 [SPEAKER_01]: We're not really in the room shaping lyrics. 16:32.118 --> 16:32.558 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 16:33.198 --> 16:34.619 [SPEAKER_01]: And so that was really fun. 16:34.639 --> 16:35.419 [SPEAKER_01]: That was a pretty place. 16:35.539 --> 16:40.880 [SPEAKER_01]: And, and also to get to work with you, because not only are you creative, you are just absolutely talented. 16:40.920 --> 16:44.041 [SPEAKER_01]: They will, they'll get to experience that in just a moment. 16:44.061 --> 16:45.621 [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to take a little bit of a break 16:51.288 --> 16:55.137 [SPEAKER_00]: Our NAAACP Image Award-nominated book, Truth Table. 16:55.575 --> 17:00.799 [SPEAKER_00]: Black women's musings on life love in liberation is making waves and shifting culture. 17:01.560 --> 17:08.906 [SPEAKER_00]: I closed this book feeling like I had just partaken in a multi-course meal, filled with grace and the courage to carry on. 17:09.726 --> 17:12.709 [SPEAKER_00]: And I believe you'll finish this book feeling the same way. 17:13.349 --> 17:15.731 [SPEAKER_00]: Morgan Harper Nichols, Artists in Poet. 17:16.271 --> 17:23.297 [SPEAKER_00]: Buy Truths Table, Black women's musings on life love in liberation, at our website, or wherever books are sold. 17:24.383 --> 17:27.867 [SPEAKER_01]: So we are back at the table, and we are having a great conversation with 10. 17:27.887 --> 17:29.448 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, y'all, and I'm telling you, she's a blessing, and she's talented. 17:29.469 --> 17:31.991 [SPEAKER_01]: And a given you were mentioned in to me that you saw something on on 10's Instagram the other day. 17:32.011 --> 17:32.252 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I did. 17:32.272 --> 17:42.042 [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah 17:43.163 --> 17:45.885 [SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, I want to say it was earlier, you know, this past week. 17:45.945 --> 17:54.490 [SPEAKER_04]: You, um, I did, uh, a short video about, or real, you know, about, um, the lack of mentorship within the industry. 17:54.570 --> 18:01.035 [SPEAKER_04]: So it should be lifting as in climb, but uh, folks is lifting and they, I'm not saying it's supposed to climb it, but they're not lifting. 18:01.135 --> 18:01.395 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 18:01.435 --> 18:05.738 [SPEAKER_04]: Can you talk a little bit more about that as people outside us big outside the industry? 18:06.138 --> 18:27.838 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I just think I got pretty overwhelmed with all of the stresses of night having artists develop man and I have a new team and having all of this talented people say I have and I'm I'm maintaining it myself and I have all of these people and contacts that I meet that come up to me hitting up on social media and they're like, who are credible? 18:27.878 --> 18:29.340 [SPEAKER_03]: Wow, good job. 18:29.780 --> 18:31.822 [SPEAKER_03]: And I was like, thank you, but can you help? 18:32.823 --> 18:33.063 [SPEAKER_03]: Right. 18:33.103 --> 18:34.625 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, so I got some question. 18:34.665 --> 18:35.045 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 18:35.205 --> 18:36.827 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, where's the mentorship? 18:36.907 --> 18:39.569 [SPEAKER_03]: Where is the, hey, I like what you doing. 18:39.870 --> 18:40.831 [SPEAKER_03]: Let's set up a meeting. 18:41.371 --> 18:41.551 [SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm. 18:41.571 --> 18:43.613 [SPEAKER_03]: Or I know somebody that can help you with that. 18:43.633 --> 18:44.154 [SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm. 18:44.174 --> 18:47.137 [SPEAKER_03]: Or what you trying to do, so I can lead you in the right direction. 18:47.617 --> 18:49.379 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not asking for a hand out. 18:49.419 --> 18:51.281 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm willing to work for it. 18:51.502 --> 18:53.864 [SPEAKER_03]: But I'm showing you I'm being consistent. 18:54.305 --> 18:55.046 [SPEAKER_03]: My brand. 18:55.086 --> 18:56.367 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm developing myself. 18:56.447 --> 19:00.752 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm doing all the things that you tell me to people tell me to do as a professional. 19:01.193 --> 19:07.700 [SPEAKER_03]: But then when am I going to get that can knowledge me the validation from the people who are already validated. 19:08.601 --> 19:09.742 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, that helps us. 19:09.842 --> 19:11.463 [SPEAKER_03]: That tells me I'm in the right direction. 19:11.523 --> 19:24.155 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, you know, so that was it's a little I call it the tin rant It was necessary and I get nervous because I'm a Pisces on very sensitive energy 19:24.675 --> 19:31.818 [SPEAKER_03]: And when you open yourself up with your opinion, there was always some negative vibes of people and even you got to read it. 19:31.878 --> 19:35.240 [SPEAKER_03]: And that's getting to your spirit and then you kind of, it does, it does. 19:35.280 --> 19:36.441 [SPEAKER_03]: It does. 19:36.561 --> 19:43.724 [SPEAKER_03]: So I try to be okay and put a tough skin on when I'm speaking boldly because that's why God has one's earth. 19:43.804 --> 19:45.325 [SPEAKER_03]: And hit that block button when you need to. 19:45.385 --> 19:46.545 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, ma'am, and delete. 19:46.865 --> 19:49.307 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm not sure if you piece our dolly about you. 19:49.507 --> 19:51.227 [SPEAKER_03]: I do, people like, well, how do you just 19:52.448 --> 19:57.509 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, he blessed my age, is that okay, you could protect your space. 19:57.750 --> 20:02.191 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so that's what that was just meant to us shipping the celebrities back in the day. 20:02.271 --> 20:06.192 [SPEAKER_03]: I mentioned a few names and I'm not going to mention them all here because yeah, I ain't going to come get me. 20:06.252 --> 20:07.772 [SPEAKER_03]: I love you. 20:08.092 --> 20:17.895 [SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, I love these artists, but I've seen where they were not nice, you know, to singers, you know, in the singers like, oh my god, I love you and then you're like, 20:21.076 --> 20:21.957 [SPEAKER_03]: instead of more soul. 20:22.237 --> 20:23.738 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, you know what on that song you did. 20:24.218 --> 20:28.822 [SPEAKER_03]: If you do this and do that, I think it would have made the song a little bit bad. 20:28.862 --> 20:29.322 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 20:29.502 --> 20:29.862 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 20:29.902 --> 20:44.052 [SPEAKER_03]: Just something, uh, constructive, constructive, so that we can take that in a game like, you know what, this shock, kind of told me, I, I, I must, I want a little flat, but she told me if I just squeeze my butt cheeks or something. 20:44.132 --> 20:44.413 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 20:45.614 --> 20:50.498 [SPEAKER_03]: You've got to pull my ears a certain way that that note what it came out. 20:50.598 --> 20:51.359 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, it's good. 20:51.379 --> 20:51.759 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. 20:51.899 --> 20:52.760 [SPEAKER_04]: It's such a good thing. 20:52.940 --> 20:53.600 [SPEAKER_03]: Stuff like that. 20:53.661 --> 20:54.761 [SPEAKER_03]: I know that's kind of crazy. 20:54.781 --> 20:55.542 [SPEAKER_03]: It could be what it was. 20:55.602 --> 20:56.603 [SPEAKER_03]: It could be what it was. 20:56.623 --> 20:57.284 [SPEAKER_03]: It could be what it was. 20:57.324 --> 20:57.984 [SPEAKER_03]: It could be what it was. 20:58.004 --> 20:58.585 [SPEAKER_03]: It could be what it was. 20:58.605 --> 20:59.325 [SPEAKER_03]: It could be what it was. 20:59.345 --> 21:00.326 [SPEAKER_03]: It could be what it was. 21:00.346 --> 21:01.007 [SPEAKER_03]: It could be what it was. 21:01.047 --> 21:02.088 [SPEAKER_03]: It could be what it was. 21:02.108 --> 21:03.009 [SPEAKER_03]: It could be what it was. 21:03.029 --> 21:03.729 [SPEAKER_03]: It could be what it was. 21:03.749 --> 21:04.490 [SPEAKER_03]: It could be what it was. 21:04.510 --> 21:05.030 [SPEAKER_03]: It could be what it was. 21:05.050 --> 21:05.571 [SPEAKER_03]: It could be what it was. 21:05.591 --> 21:06.572 [SPEAKER_03]: It could be what it was. 21:06.632 --> 21:07.472 [SPEAKER_03]: It could be what it was. 21:07.553 --> 21:08.573 [SPEAKER_03]: It could be what it was. 21:08.593 --> 21:10.015 [SPEAKER_03]: It could be what it was. 21:10.155 --> 21:10.895 [SPEAKER_03]: It could be what 21:12.076 --> 21:21.418 [SPEAKER_03]: I can name Mary J. I can make all these artists that don't have a protege in a die with all of the knowledge inside of them and now we're lost. 21:21.698 --> 21:23.119 [SPEAKER_03]: We don't know what to do. 21:23.159 --> 21:23.879 [SPEAKER_03]: How to do it. 21:24.319 --> 21:29.680 [SPEAKER_03]: We don't have no foundation and we're out here trying to figure it out. 21:29.800 --> 21:38.162 [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm just putting this out here to the universe if you're listening and you are a person of honor and respect and someone who's been in the business 21:42.184 --> 21:49.634 [SPEAKER_03]: reach out to your left or right and find another artist that's coming up that's similar to what you're doing and take them on the journey. 21:49.754 --> 21:50.455 [SPEAKER_03]: Take them on your way. 21:50.495 --> 21:51.497 [SPEAKER_03]: Bring them on your left. 21:51.517 --> 21:51.937 [SPEAKER_03]: That's right. 21:52.318 --> 21:55.502 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, I'm not saying just do it for anybody with X guy, pray it back. 21:55.522 --> 21:55.843 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 21:56.183 --> 21:57.305 [SPEAKER_03]: And really cover. 21:57.765 --> 22:01.147 [SPEAKER_03]: these artists because I am one of the artists I need into a ship. 22:01.687 --> 22:02.708 [SPEAKER_03]: I need covering. 22:02.748 --> 22:10.313 [SPEAKER_03]: I need to be able to walk in spaces and have people balance for protecting me because I'm doing something for the call for the culture. 22:10.333 --> 22:10.773 [SPEAKER_03]: That's right. 22:10.793 --> 22:11.934 [SPEAKER_03]: And we need protection. 22:12.174 --> 22:13.414 [SPEAKER_03]: I can do this by myself. 22:13.454 --> 22:13.715 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. 22:13.995 --> 22:17.537 [SPEAKER_03]: So I need y'all help to help me do this process. 22:17.577 --> 22:18.798 [SPEAKER_03]: Each one teach one. 22:18.818 --> 22:19.198 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. 22:19.258 --> 22:23.701 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's exhumility and wisdom to name that and to ask for it. 22:23.761 --> 22:24.041 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, 22:24.521 --> 22:26.542 [SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, mentorship is too way, right? 22:26.662 --> 22:31.926 [SPEAKER_01]: We often think about what the mentee's gonna get, but mentorship actually sharpens the mentor as well. 22:32.246 --> 22:37.309 [SPEAKER_01]: Keep some current, keep some aware, keep some using the skills, keep some feeling validated. 22:37.469 --> 22:39.190 [SPEAKER_01]: Like someone wants to hear what you have to say. 22:39.610 --> 22:47.315 [SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, I'm not in your industry, but in other industries that I mean, we know there's lots of benefits both for the mentor and the mentee. 22:47.335 --> 22:51.958 [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm praying, you get all the calls that you should get. 22:52.558 --> 22:54.159 [SPEAKER_03]: at that regard. 22:54.439 --> 22:55.660 [SPEAKER_03]: I just want to trigger it. 22:56.040 --> 22:57.941 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, for you and for others. 22:57.961 --> 22:59.382 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 22:59.562 --> 23:03.604 [SPEAKER_03]: Whether I get it because I do think that God has blessed me with the leadership quality. 23:03.624 --> 23:03.845 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. 23:04.165 --> 23:07.247 [SPEAKER_03]: And I think even where I'm successful in my own right. 23:07.347 --> 23:07.587 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 23:07.627 --> 23:14.151 [SPEAKER_03]: There are young girls around me that I mentor that I call and check up on and give them inside advice. 23:14.171 --> 23:18.253 [SPEAKER_03]: Because I've been around and I've seen some things and I have validation in space. 23:22.135 --> 23:22.275 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 23:22.315 --> 23:22.736 [SPEAKER_03]: That's it. 23:22.976 --> 23:23.376 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 23:23.636 --> 23:24.557 [SPEAKER_03]: If you ain't got it. 23:24.577 --> 23:25.418 [SPEAKER_03]: Be the Joined Jake one. 23:25.458 --> 23:26.098 [SPEAKER_03]: It's changing one. 23:26.118 --> 23:26.659 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 23:26.679 --> 23:27.399 [SPEAKER_01]: That's it. 23:27.419 --> 23:27.859 [SPEAKER_01]: What did you have? 23:27.900 --> 23:32.583 [SPEAKER_01]: What did you have control over and move an and move an agent? 23:32.683 --> 23:32.923 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. 23:32.943 --> 23:37.487 [SPEAKER_01]: So we have the experience we've alluded to it already about being able to write a song with. 23:37.999 --> 23:38.399 [SPEAKER_02]: you. 23:38.419 --> 23:40.881 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes. 23:41.021 --> 23:42.762 [SPEAKER_01]: And listen, obviously we're super boys. 23:42.862 --> 23:44.182 [SPEAKER_01]: And we that is the Bob. 23:44.563 --> 23:45.683 [SPEAKER_01]: We really like the song. 23:46.104 --> 23:52.107 [SPEAKER_01]: But I would love for you to talk a little bit about the process of writing this song. 23:52.447 --> 23:53.428 [SPEAKER_01]: Hands full of hope. 23:53.628 --> 23:53.888 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. 23:54.228 --> 23:55.870 [SPEAKER_01]: That's what it's called, y'all. 23:56.190 --> 23:58.592 [SPEAKER_03]: And so, that's full of hot title alone. 23:58.712 --> 24:12.925 [SPEAKER_01]: And just, yeah, so we had a conversation the night before we got together, just to write it, where we kind of shared about our organization, but also not just the organization, but what we feel like and know from research is happening in the lives of black women. 24:13.606 --> 24:18.611 [SPEAKER_01]: And what is on their shoulders, how they are responding to this social moment, 24:20.151 --> 24:26.513 [SPEAKER_01]: And we also were really reflecting on and you mentioned it already, you as a survivor of domestic violence. 24:26.973 --> 24:36.995 [SPEAKER_01]: But we talked about just this year, these just the frequency of these very public domestic violence incidents, just impacting the lives and the lives. 24:37.015 --> 24:38.235 [SPEAKER_04]: It just did a litre call. 24:38.476 --> 24:41.256 [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, it was a blast on that black woman, right? 24:41.856 --> 24:42.496 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 24:42.536 --> 24:48.638 [SPEAKER_01]: So we wanted a song that really, that really shine light of appreciation and value. 24:49.318 --> 24:55.320 [SPEAKER_01]: on black women and named while the song was still like encouraging. 24:55.400 --> 24:56.541 [SPEAKER_01]: It has a real lift to it. 24:56.941 --> 25:00.062 [SPEAKER_01]: We wanted to name some of these things that I just described. 25:00.162 --> 25:02.003 [SPEAKER_01]: And so we gave you all that like in a book. 25:02.023 --> 25:17.729 [SPEAKER_01]: Wow, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah 25:18.249 --> 25:23.592 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I kind of thought it was a little bit of a cheat because it's like first bomb black woman. 25:24.332 --> 25:25.293 [SPEAKER_03]: So that's easy. 25:26.173 --> 25:32.396 [SPEAKER_03]: And then he's incredible in an energetic way to gather, plus me. 25:33.276 --> 25:34.357 [SPEAKER_03]: I was like this in November. 25:34.377 --> 25:37.438 [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't want to say nothing, but I was going through process. 25:37.659 --> 25:39.259 [SPEAKER_03]: But it was just a no-brainer. 25:39.600 --> 25:42.501 [SPEAKER_03]: All of the the energy, the conversation. 25:42.561 --> 25:43.962 [SPEAKER_03]: I call her Lady Elvin. 25:44.942 --> 25:46.423 [SPEAKER_03]: She reminds me of still. 25:46.983 --> 25:52.866 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, she was just right and I was like, okay girl, you know what I'm seeing in melodies and stuff. 25:53.146 --> 25:57.069 [SPEAKER_03]: I was like, oh, so you want that in the song Okay, we don't wait me a second. 25:57.209 --> 25:58.249 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm gonna put that in there too. 25:58.269 --> 25:59.190 [SPEAKER_01]: She tried to be subtle. 25:59.210 --> 25:59.630 [SPEAKER_01]: She was like, 26:03.572 --> 26:13.456 [SPEAKER_03]: And then they were bouncing off each other, and you were like, yeah, we should put this in there and do this and yeah, and that thing's yeah. 26:13.476 --> 26:19.198 [SPEAKER_03]: You know what we got we got the lines we got the lyrics and I think we wrote that song in about 30 40 minutes. 26:20.799 --> 26:22.901 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, the bulk of the list. 26:22.941 --> 26:24.061 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, the bulk of the list. 26:24.082 --> 26:26.063 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's true about 30 to 40 minutes. 26:26.123 --> 26:28.705 [SPEAKER_03]: And then yeah, I'll keep Right with the bill. 26:28.725 --> 26:31.407 [SPEAKER_03]: The bill already had the soon as we sat down. 26:31.467 --> 26:36.810 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm like, oh, right now. 26:36.910 --> 26:39.452 [SPEAKER_03]: We're moving on shout outs in the video. 26:40.533 --> 26:43.295 [SPEAKER_03]: So yes, the process was very just 26:43.735 --> 26:47.680 [SPEAKER_03]: their beauty very easy and organic. 26:47.780 --> 26:49.702 [SPEAKER_03]: So organic and I love it. 26:49.902 --> 26:57.792 [SPEAKER_03]: Like I think I get spoiled when I look up in people like y'all. 26:57.872 --> 27:00.415 [SPEAKER_03]: And just the message behind it, I thought was so powerful. 27:00.815 --> 27:13.810 [SPEAKER_03]: because we do need a thing song women, you know, with the whole domestic violence thing is being a survivor and I'm just having a song that anthem something you can put on to kind of like get you through. 27:14.431 --> 27:18.376 [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm like, I need more that and this was that more I need it. 27:19.596 --> 27:23.739 [SPEAKER_04]: And when we were writing it, we did not know that you were a survivor. 27:23.759 --> 27:23.999 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 27:24.079 --> 27:25.920 [SPEAKER_04]: I think you mentioned it to us. 27:26.540 --> 27:29.262 [SPEAKER_04]: Maybe we're not learning it just now, but I think it was after. 27:29.302 --> 27:30.463 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, absolutely. 27:30.503 --> 27:31.924 [SPEAKER_04]: Like you, I think you told us that. 27:31.944 --> 27:33.444 [SPEAKER_04]: I was like, oh, goodness. 27:33.524 --> 27:34.985 [SPEAKER_04]: So, wow. 27:35.185 --> 27:35.526 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 27:35.646 --> 27:38.908 [SPEAKER_04]: I thought that was powerful, because I don't, you didn't have no notes on that. 27:38.928 --> 27:45.431 [SPEAKER_04]: Like, like, that means to me that we were able to hit the nail on the hammer with that. 27:45.551 --> 27:45.812 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 27:46.672 --> 27:48.173 [SPEAKER_03]: And we just love what y'all doing. 27:48.333 --> 27:54.776 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, I'm just sad I didn't know about you guys sooner because I would be listening like forever and ever. 27:55.176 --> 27:59.438 [SPEAKER_03]: Because I just think we need representation in this media space. 27:59.478 --> 28:07.122 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, because even for me, turning 40 and then you see a lot of podcast there, they talk about the fabulousness of being 40. 28:07.142 --> 28:08.362 [SPEAKER_03]: But what about the other stuff? 28:08.402 --> 28:10.824 [SPEAKER_03]: What about the body changes the hormones? 28:10.904 --> 28:11.344 [SPEAKER_03]: Come on. 28:28.381 --> 28:28.902 [SPEAKER_03]: for that. 28:29.482 --> 28:30.703 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm so excited. 28:31.144 --> 28:35.048 [SPEAKER_03]: I know of this piece where I can come and bring my truth to the thing. 28:35.088 --> 28:36.709 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, come on. 28:36.990 --> 28:38.571 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, do the music too. 28:39.092 --> 28:45.598 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yes, you know, I, um, there was a part in the song when we were writing it that I'm talked about. 28:45.618 --> 28:47.820 [SPEAKER_04]: We bring, we bring the table. 28:47.861 --> 28:48.281 [SPEAKER_04]: We'll bring the 28:50.510 --> 28:56.355 [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, yes, yes, and we were kind of, you know, playing around, you know, of course, you're going back and forth. 28:56.395 --> 29:08.025 [SPEAKER_04]: So this and then, but I think that that also seemed to resonate with you too, where just this sense of what you feel like you have to come cleaned up before coming to God, or before coming to the faith. 29:08.185 --> 29:09.706 [SPEAKER_04]: That's like, no, no, no, just come. 29:10.027 --> 29:11.047 [SPEAKER_04]: We got to see for you the table. 29:11.187 --> 29:11.608 [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly. 29:11.648 --> 29:12.248 [SPEAKER_04]: We got the faith. 29:13.109 --> 29:13.809 [SPEAKER_04]: And we go share it. 29:14.149 --> 29:16.230 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, we don't want any excuses. 29:16.270 --> 29:26.354 [SPEAKER_03]: What I felt in her from you guys, you don't want people to be turned away, you want with whoever wants to come to tell their truth that this is an available space for you. 29:26.414 --> 29:28.315 [SPEAKER_03]: So we're bringing everything you need. 29:28.435 --> 29:29.816 [SPEAKER_03]: So you have to be faithful. 29:30.136 --> 29:30.996 [SPEAKER_03]: That's all we ask. 29:31.436 --> 29:33.597 [SPEAKER_03]: And that can be a great of a sea. 29:33.677 --> 29:34.057 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 29:34.117 --> 29:34.858 [SPEAKER_03]: We're blessed. 29:34.918 --> 29:36.018 [SPEAKER_03]: Must have seen it. 29:36.138 --> 29:37.079 [SPEAKER_02]: And just bring it. 29:37.379 --> 29:37.959 [SPEAKER_01]: We got you. 29:38.179 --> 29:38.600 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 29:38.660 --> 29:39.722 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we're going to water it. 29:39.942 --> 29:40.323 [SPEAKER_01]: Come on. 29:40.363 --> 29:42.667 [SPEAKER_01]: We're on the same team as them as the songs. 29:42.687 --> 29:44.650 [SPEAKER_03]: We're on the same team. 29:45.231 --> 29:47.195 [SPEAKER_03]: That's what you should believe. 29:47.555 --> 29:48.277 [SPEAKER_03]: That's all Yagi. 29:51.926 --> 29:52.567 [SPEAKER_01]: We love it. 29:53.488 --> 29:55.370 [SPEAKER_01]: It's about, it's about you. 29:55.610 --> 29:56.711 [SPEAKER_03]: I can't wait to eat it. 29:56.812 --> 29:58.974 [SPEAKER_04]: I can't, I can't, I can't. 29:59.194 --> 29:59.855 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh my gosh. 29:59.875 --> 30:02.498 [SPEAKER_04]: So yeah, we got to give them a little shampoo, let's have a boat. 30:02.518 --> 30:03.479 [SPEAKER_04]: But you don't before we do. 30:04.300 --> 30:07.744 [SPEAKER_04]: We were, before we started recording, you were talking a little bit about AI. 30:08.945 --> 30:10.947 [SPEAKER_04]: and it's influence on music, yeah. 30:11.207 --> 30:13.009 [SPEAKER_04]: There was like, I remember it, I won't lie. 30:13.049 --> 30:14.951 [SPEAKER_04]: Some, some AI songs are obvious to me. 30:15.412 --> 30:18.194 [SPEAKER_04]: Some are not always so obvious to me. 30:18.295 --> 30:19.015 [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, yes. 30:19.135 --> 30:26.163 [SPEAKER_04]: And you were talking about, I guess it goes alongside with, uh, it runs in tandem with the mentorship piece of a hugger like, yeah. 30:26.803 --> 30:29.886 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm just tired and it's like, I just kind of have to learn to do everything because 30:30.767 --> 30:36.634 [SPEAKER_04]: So you're talking about all the instruments that you play and you're talking about how you mixed master produce. 30:36.654 --> 30:42.721 [SPEAKER_04]: I read it in your bio tube and you do that on your own, but you're like, sometimes I have to use a little. 30:42.741 --> 30:43.081 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 30:43.101 --> 30:46.004 [SPEAKER_03]: Can you talk about AI and how you're using it in your music? 30:46.785 --> 30:53.674 [SPEAKER_03]: I've used a. I've used a before people even know about it because I like creating worlds. 30:53.734 --> 31:03.467 [SPEAKER_03]: I love the early 90s with a missy Elliott and bust around how they have the afro fruit your mistake as you see as I drew it to know. 31:04.368 --> 31:10.409 [SPEAKER_03]: And because we don't have the budget they had back in the day, I have to get these freaking ideas on my head. 31:10.989 --> 31:16.711 [SPEAKER_03]: And A, I does it for me for now, you know, until I'm able to produce it in a way that I need to. 31:17.251 --> 31:27.493 [SPEAKER_03]: But anyways, you know, I was telling you guys about how sometimes it's frustrating as a female artist where we have to go into these male dominance faces. 31:27.973 --> 31:31.994 [SPEAKER_03]: And we have to do all these loops and bounds and tricks just to get production. 31:33.874 --> 31:40.604 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, we're, we're not making money off of our streams and the industry is so dear for now that we have the fun and stuff. 31:40.744 --> 31:40.924 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes. 31:41.065 --> 31:44.089 [SPEAKER_03]: And then you're not getting paid at your regular job. 31:44.109 --> 31:48.435 [SPEAKER_03]: You're nine to five minimum wage is not wage and like it's opposed to it's not. 31:48.936 --> 31:52.257 [SPEAKER_03]: So we got all of these challenges going up against us. 31:52.777 --> 31:55.738 [SPEAKER_03]: And it's like, do I give up, do I cry about it? 31:56.238 --> 32:01.460 [SPEAKER_03]: Or what do I do to seek out information to enhance what I already got. 32:01.940 --> 32:04.241 [SPEAKER_03]: And I ran into an app called Suno. 32:04.901 --> 32:09.722 [SPEAKER_03]: And Suno, I think Tim Berlin, he introduced it, using it as a tool. 32:10.383 --> 32:14.744 [SPEAKER_03]: And I just wanted to let people know, I'm totally against, you know, 32:18.285 --> 32:19.126 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think that's right. 32:19.206 --> 32:24.170 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you can use AI, but what you're not going to do is try to compete with a human. 32:24.190 --> 32:25.671 [SPEAKER_03]: That should be in a different category. 32:25.691 --> 32:25.811 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 32:25.871 --> 32:26.332 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 32:26.392 --> 32:30.515 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't agree with me competing on Spotify with a robot. 32:30.916 --> 32:31.356 [SPEAKER_03]: Correct. 32:31.376 --> 32:32.377 [SPEAKER_03]: I just don't agree with you. 32:32.397 --> 32:32.497 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 32:32.557 --> 32:34.599 [SPEAKER_03]: I think we need to know that is AI. 32:34.659 --> 32:35.139 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. 32:35.299 --> 32:41.104 [SPEAKER_03]: But as I'm not a producer like that, I do make beats because I think production is playing. 32:41.124 --> 32:43.346 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't play the piano, but I do play the bass. 32:43.366 --> 32:44.447 [SPEAKER_03]: You've been playing the instruments. 32:44.587 --> 32:50.168 [SPEAKER_03]: you know I do my my little production part of that because I didn't go to school for it. 32:50.488 --> 32:58.730 [SPEAKER_03]: So it can get complicating for me when I don't know the music theory of it or if I want to go a certain place, I don't have that knowledge to do that. 32:59.090 --> 33:02.211 [SPEAKER_03]: So Suno has helped me if I can hum it. 33:02.711 --> 33:07.572 [SPEAKER_03]: You know Michael Jackson in play and instrument, but if he heard a melody, I can play my bass and 33:14.153 --> 33:22.578 [SPEAKER_03]: And what it does, it takes that idea in it gives you a set of these funk vibe, but it's your melody, it's your pocket, and it's your lyrics. 33:22.618 --> 33:25.039 [SPEAKER_03]: So then I'll take it and I'll write a song to it. 33:25.500 --> 33:27.881 [SPEAKER_03]: So that's my way of using it as a tool. 33:28.021 --> 33:34.045 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, not to eliminating anybody, not actually take the production and I pay musicians to replay it. 33:35.225 --> 33:38.448 [SPEAKER_03]: because you can't copy right AI at all, you can't. 33:38.708 --> 33:43.151 [SPEAKER_03]: So you have to replay it and create a new master for it, in order for you to own it. 33:43.751 --> 33:47.053 [SPEAKER_03]: But what that does is, for me, it keeps me safe. 33:47.794 --> 33:58.441 [SPEAKER_03]: Where I don't have to go out here and begging people to help me or men who try to manipulate women sexually, and you know where you got to put yourself and compromise in situations. 33:58.461 --> 34:01.924 [SPEAKER_03]: So that's the thing for me, what I love about AI, 34:02.824 --> 34:18.876 [SPEAKER_03]: help me stay in the house, save my money, because a lot just fell out of it's been, and also it pushes my creativity to depend on myself, to pull whatever God has in me out, and I take in someone else's ideas. 34:19.576 --> 34:29.603 [SPEAKER_03]: So what the the the kind of it is and soon I don't like the fact that it uses and takes from people and don't give people there the rights to it. 34:29.643 --> 34:29.923 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 34:30.023 --> 34:33.126 [SPEAKER_03]: Or they don't pay people for it or there's no police on it. 34:33.166 --> 34:33.946 [SPEAKER_03]: There's no law. 34:34.447 --> 34:39.170 [SPEAKER_03]: If you take teens voice and you create an ARDS, that should be it's the law. 34:39.530 --> 34:42.272 [SPEAKER_03]: That's my tongue that's my voice those are my ribs. 34:42.792 --> 34:54.300 [SPEAKER_03]: I should get paid for that and you should ask me for my permission So that's my goal is to petition that if you're gonna use stuff from the Catalogs from my elders and people like it. 34:54.320 --> 34:57.843 [SPEAKER_03]: I say give me a sound cook song sound cook people should get a check 34:58.923 --> 35:04.505 [SPEAKER_03]: If I use that idea that you took that from back in the day in the 70s, Motel, where's the money? 35:06.306 --> 35:07.306 [SPEAKER_01]: That's what I like. 35:07.446 --> 35:08.046 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know. 35:08.486 --> 35:09.307 [SPEAKER_03]: But it helps me. 35:09.527 --> 35:12.087 [SPEAKER_03]: So no, it has helped me with a few of the records that I put out. 35:12.468 --> 35:14.208 [SPEAKER_03]: Money horns, I can go and get it. 35:15.108 --> 35:18.290 [SPEAKER_03]: So I've mastered it to the point where I can use it as a tool. 35:18.490 --> 35:19.650 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's great. 35:19.810 --> 35:29.378 [SPEAKER_03]: But I don't, I don't, I don't, I'm a beyond as it's a little, I'm a little bored of it now because creating is an experience like that experience with our song. 35:29.478 --> 35:30.499 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm still so happy from it. 35:30.539 --> 35:31.420 [SPEAKER_04]: It was so much fun. 35:31.440 --> 35:33.301 [SPEAKER_04]: It's such a, it's a, it's a, it's a deep memory. 35:33.321 --> 35:34.803 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it wasn't, it would be cold. 35:35.263 --> 35:37.024 [SPEAKER_03]: And you can't get that with Suno. 35:37.104 --> 35:39.946 [SPEAKER_03]: You just literally put something in there and then make it in one thing. 35:40.587 --> 35:40.807 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 35:40.827 --> 35:41.787 [SPEAKER_02]: Where's the experience? 35:41.988 --> 35:42.528 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 35:42.648 --> 35:43.689 [SPEAKER_03]: And that's what people felt. 35:43.829 --> 35:44.850 [SPEAKER_03]: That's what people felt. 35:44.870 --> 35:46.170 [SPEAKER_03]: Realize that doesn't have talent. 35:46.190 --> 35:48.312 [SPEAKER_03]: No shade to non-telling to people because I get it. 35:48.512 --> 35:48.692 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 35:48.752 --> 35:50.133 [SPEAKER_03]: I want to be like us, but you can't. 35:50.193 --> 35:50.573 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. 35:50.753 --> 35:54.356 [SPEAKER_03]: So Suno is giving you a little bit of liquid courage. 35:54.976 --> 36:02.979 [SPEAKER_03]: But I'm so sorry, you will never be a natural creative if you don't put the work inch, don't go to school, don't learn. 36:03.339 --> 36:06.560 [SPEAKER_03]: You don't put the hours in to become a real creative. 36:07.040 --> 36:20.065 [SPEAKER_03]: So no, it's just a thing that you can do really quick and get what you need, but the filling of it and the experience of sitting with people and writing and listening to their stories, it's another thing that is 36:20.645 --> 36:29.532 [SPEAKER_03]: We'll never be experienced when AI never, no matter what they do, we'll never do, it's, well, it's the community, it's the community, that's in the creativity. 36:29.692 --> 36:30.132 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. 36:30.312 --> 36:31.513 [SPEAKER_01]: So it's so important. 36:32.114 --> 36:36.777 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I made, let me tell you, we can spend a whole day right, a whole, another song. 36:37.418 --> 36:39.759 [SPEAKER_01]: Hello people, but I am so excited. 36:39.779 --> 36:40.540 [SPEAKER_01]: I can't believe we know that. 36:40.560 --> 36:43.542 [SPEAKER_01]: I think I'll be sometime this fall when people get to experience. 36:43.902 --> 36:46.144 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I know we need to, for sure, but yeah. 36:46.444 --> 37:00.855 [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, we didn't want to leave without offering the people an opportunity to hear you saying a bit of a bit of it to the people or anything that's on your heart that you think would be a blessing to our audience. 37:02.156 --> 37:06.019 [SPEAKER_01]: That could be another place because it means you did give y'all a little teeth but she gave you a little spirit. 37:06.039 --> 37:13.845 [SPEAKER_01]: She gave you a spirit right there little spirit, but it also could be anything that's on your heart that you feel like would be a blessing to those that are listening. 37:16.226 --> 37:18.147 [SPEAKER_03]: All right. 37:18.367 --> 37:26.111 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I did sing a little bit of our song earlier, hearing full of hope, because I feel like we still gathering that one. 37:26.511 --> 37:30.813 [SPEAKER_03]: So we're going to give you a little tip in that moment when I just sang a little bit. 37:31.194 --> 37:33.855 [SPEAKER_03]: But I do have a song of okay this song on my heart. 37:35.075 --> 37:37.997 [SPEAKER_03]: And I don't know God is pulling this it's called right time. 37:38.797 --> 37:40.018 [SPEAKER_03]: And this song was derived. 37:40.078 --> 37:40.778 [SPEAKER_03]: I was watching 37:42.959 --> 37:50.163 [SPEAKER_03]: Instagram, and I saw the clip of Puff Daddy and Cassie about him abusing her, and it triggered me. 37:51.084 --> 37:54.946 [SPEAKER_03]: It really, I broke down watching the video, it really traumatized me. 37:55.666 --> 37:59.368 [SPEAKER_03]: And I just wrote a song called This Is The Right Time. 37:59.988 --> 38:00.829 [SPEAKER_03]: And I produced it. 38:00.869 --> 38:06.272 [SPEAKER_03]: I found the old 70s sample on YouTube and I chopped it up. 38:06.712 --> 38:11.195 [SPEAKER_03]: And I wrote this song called Right Time, but I wanted to sing just a little bit of it. 38:14.852 --> 38:27.116 [SPEAKER_02]: Look in the mirror at what you see If you don't like it, it's your responsibility. 38:28.197 --> 38:31.218 [SPEAKER_02]: You gotta love yourself. 38:32.698 --> 38:37.819 [SPEAKER_02]: And if you don't, nobody else will. 38:38.600 --> 38:44.621 [SPEAKER_02]: So every night you cry, time will pass you by. 38:45.881 --> 38:48.342 [SPEAKER_02]: Stop telling yourself a lie. 38:49.082 --> 38:52.063 [SPEAKER_02]: Your insecurities are lies. 38:52.483 --> 38:55.524 [SPEAKER_02]: Cause this is the right time. 38:55.944 --> 38:59.605 [SPEAKER_02]: This is the right time to get yourself together. 39:02.807 --> 39:04.930 [SPEAKER_04]: Mmm, beautiful. 39:04.970 --> 39:05.610 [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you. 39:06.051 --> 39:07.412 [SPEAKER_04]: Beautiful, beautiful. 39:07.452 --> 39:08.854 [SPEAKER_04]: That is a powerful message. 39:08.874 --> 39:09.514 [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you. 39:09.875 --> 39:10.475 [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you. 39:10.876 --> 39:12.097 [SPEAKER_04]: Well, especially as a survivor. 39:12.385 --> 39:18.308 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, because I always felt a guilt because I didn't report him afterwards. 39:19.308 --> 39:22.590 [SPEAKER_03]: He, he kidnapped me in our home and almost strangled me to death. 39:23.150 --> 39:25.331 [SPEAKER_03]: And I saw my life last before my eyes. 39:25.851 --> 39:30.293 [SPEAKER_03]: And I always told myself, I never thought I would be in anything like that because I was so strong. 39:31.113 --> 39:31.694 [SPEAKER_03]: And I tried to 39:32.834 --> 39:47.360 [SPEAKER_03]: to stay away from those type of men and I got caught up and I'm almost lost in my life and and then maybe a couple of years later we kind of resolved everything and we came friends just healing wise because we'd had music and stuff together. 39:47.400 --> 39:51.402 [SPEAKER_03]: So I had to kind of be kosher with them and he ended up getting mayor. 39:51.422 --> 39:52.903 [SPEAKER_03]: He married a police officer. 39:53.983 --> 40:02.191 [SPEAKER_03]: And ended up bashing her hitting with the metal bed and I felt terrible because she was in a coma, she was in a coma for seven months. 40:02.811 --> 40:07.035 [SPEAKER_03]: And she ended up surviving after that and he went to jail for about 10 years. 40:08.597 --> 40:11.779 [SPEAKER_03]: But I felt horrible because I should have said something. 40:12.955 --> 40:14.476 [SPEAKER_03]: I should have reported it. 40:14.977 --> 40:22.503 [SPEAKER_03]: So I always, this message is for that song is for women, you have to say something, because it's not about chewing anymore. 40:22.523 --> 40:28.127 [SPEAKER_03]: This is about the next person, who may not be as strong as you in my not survive that person. 40:29.108 --> 40:30.309 [SPEAKER_03]: And they gotta be stopped. 40:31.090 --> 40:31.790 [SPEAKER_03]: So whatever, 40:33.291 --> 40:41.238 [SPEAKER_03]: fear you have, you have to pray and get through it, even with the me too movement and women who's been through rape, you gotta speak up. 40:42.839 --> 40:52.287 [SPEAKER_03]: You're not only do your life depend on the other people lives, the next lady, the next woman, have to see you be strong so they can be strong. 40:52.987 --> 40:53.747 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh my goodness. 40:53.827 --> 40:54.187 [SPEAKER_04]: Wow. 40:54.227 --> 41:06.610 [SPEAKER_03]: So that that's the song that I feel like is really going to change the dynamics of how people speak about the traumas of domestic violence and things that they've been through. 41:06.690 --> 41:07.891 [SPEAKER_03]: This is the right time. 41:08.611 --> 41:09.511 [SPEAKER_03]: You got to wake up. 41:10.011 --> 41:10.651 [SPEAKER_03]: It's okay. 41:10.731 --> 41:11.831 [SPEAKER_03]: We got your back. 41:11.911 --> 41:13.012 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm here with you sister. 41:13.052 --> 41:13.792 [SPEAKER_03]: That's okay. 41:14.192 --> 41:19.057 [SPEAKER_01]: don't be afraid, you know, and it'll, and it'll, it will need that community, right? 41:19.097 --> 41:19.337 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 41:19.357 --> 41:24.862 [SPEAKER_01]: Because one of the things that that type of experience does is it convinces people that is just in her loan. 41:24.942 --> 41:25.202 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 41:25.502 --> 41:26.483 [SPEAKER_01]: And they you're alone. 41:26.603 --> 41:28.145 [SPEAKER_01]: And there's nothing else on the other side. 41:28.185 --> 41:30.127 [SPEAKER_01]: But community can remind us of truth. 41:30.147 --> 41:30.227 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. 41:30.567 --> 41:31.747 [SPEAKER_03]: And we need to get back to that. 41:31.927 --> 41:33.248 [SPEAKER_03]: I was raised by a community. 41:33.288 --> 41:36.448 [SPEAKER_03]: My mom, like I said, was a single parent, and she worked a lot. 41:36.488 --> 41:41.789 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, my mom was so tired that I was neglected affect, like the affection wasn't there. 41:41.869 --> 41:43.589 [SPEAKER_03]: I didn't get hugs, I didn't get kisses. 41:43.990 --> 41:44.970 [SPEAKER_03]: My mom didn't play with me. 41:44.990 --> 41:46.790 [SPEAKER_03]: She was tired, you know. 41:46.850 --> 41:47.530 [SPEAKER_03]: But guess what? 41:47.830 --> 41:55.692 [SPEAKER_03]: My auntie, Dee, you know, for the lady down the street, I'll go over her house and we'd be planning in the garden with her daughter. 41:55.912 --> 41:57.192 [SPEAKER_03]: And she like, you all agree? 41:57.672 --> 42:01.913 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, so I got a whole because yes, it takes a little bit of raising. 42:02.053 --> 42:10.174 [SPEAKER_03]: While my mom is just going through it and figuring out how I'm going raise these four girls by myself on the on the on the budget that I had. 42:10.495 --> 42:13.755 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, you know, so community is very important. 42:13.775 --> 42:23.077 [SPEAKER_03]: We need to get back to trusting our sisters and trust in each other, knowing that if I speak up that I will protect and then we got to protect that person. 42:23.457 --> 42:33.605 [SPEAKER_03]: Because people don't speak up because they can go and speak out about something and even go and somebody and they go, they get, you know, you don't speak about what happens, you know, those people. 42:34.145 --> 42:35.586 [SPEAKER_03]: Because they don't have a covering. 42:35.666 --> 42:35.886 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 42:36.026 --> 42:37.868 [SPEAKER_03]: We should be protected when we speak up. 42:37.948 --> 42:38.688 [SPEAKER_03]: The same. 42:38.808 --> 42:39.109 [SPEAKER_04]: Yes. 42:39.789 --> 42:43.312 [SPEAKER_03]: And until we fix that, it's going to always be the way that it is. 42:43.772 --> 42:44.593 [SPEAKER_03]: And I don't want that. 42:44.673 --> 42:46.094 [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm going to step up. 42:46.574 --> 42:49.056 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to put this this energy into my music. 42:49.396 --> 42:56.097 [SPEAKER_03]: And I pray that like I say there are mentors, mentees who can step up and help me and guide me through this journey. 42:56.177 --> 42:57.278 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, right. 42:57.318 --> 42:59.298 [SPEAKER_03]: Create those spaces where I can be safe. 42:59.738 --> 43:01.719 [SPEAKER_03]: Like in the area, I shut out to her. 43:01.859 --> 43:02.979 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah. 43:03.299 --> 43:04.719 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm in her magic video too. 43:04.739 --> 43:05.399 [SPEAKER_03]: I forgot to tell you. 43:05.439 --> 43:06.600 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to backgrounds. 43:07.100 --> 43:08.500 [SPEAKER_03]: He's got that magic. 43:08.680 --> 43:09.260 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. 43:09.440 --> 43:09.700 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. 43:09.720 --> 43:09.960 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. 43:13.401 --> 43:30.108 [SPEAKER_03]: And shout out to her speaking up, that's all community, yes, you know, as elder and as a part of black woman who fought for us through her music this woman made songs just raw natural lyrics about being a strong black woman 43:39.552 --> 43:43.875 [SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, when you go back and look at what she was up against. 43:44.216 --> 43:50.280 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, good for her to be able to stay and understand on business and still be fabulous. 43:50.741 --> 43:56.005 [SPEAKER_03]: If you look at her style and everything that she had did, yes, it was just fabulous. 43:56.025 --> 43:56.845 [SPEAKER_03]: That's true. 43:56.865 --> 44:02.750 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, and when she spoke up, I was so excited because I'm like, finally someone can take up for us. 44:03.230 --> 44:08.091 [SPEAKER_03]: Because when I say it, I'm a hater and then, you know, even she said they try to make a hater. 44:08.432 --> 44:10.032 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't have a hater. 44:10.512 --> 44:12.893 [SPEAKER_03]: When she have the right, she paid the wage. 44:13.133 --> 44:15.174 [SPEAKER_03]: To do for these women to do what they're doing. 44:15.194 --> 44:16.254 [SPEAKER_03]: It is totally correct. 44:16.574 --> 44:21.515 [SPEAKER_03]: There's no way we should be at a black, cultural event. 44:21.556 --> 44:21.796 [SPEAKER_03]: Come on. 44:21.876 --> 44:25.277 [SPEAKER_03]: And that is the theme song of what we sing in the best. 44:25.297 --> 44:25.757 [SPEAKER_03]: That's right. 44:25.917 --> 44:27.997 [SPEAKER_03]: At all the records that have came out this year. 44:28.017 --> 44:29.038 [SPEAKER_03]: And why are we singing that? 44:30.218 --> 44:31.398 [SPEAKER_03]: That that's a problem. 44:31.558 --> 44:34.299 [SPEAKER_03]: That is something going on in the universe. 44:34.319 --> 44:35.019 [SPEAKER_04]: Self-destruct. 44:35.039 --> 44:41.421 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that we just not seeing and she called it out She did you know we're not saying because we I like the party. 44:41.541 --> 44:42.301 [SPEAKER_03]: I've heard the song. 44:42.361 --> 44:48.362 [SPEAKER_03]: I found myself Bopping to it's but it ain't my thing Of course It's catchy. 44:48.442 --> 44:49.843 [SPEAKER_03]: No, it ain't the theme song. 44:49.863 --> 44:53.264 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm that Repeating it in that spirit. 44:53.324 --> 44:57.645 [SPEAKER_03]: Of course I'm scamming and taking a purse from the school. 44:57.985 --> 44:59.465 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, I'm not gonna shop live 44:59.625 --> 45:01.786 [SPEAKER_03]: And everybody's not supposed to be like us. 45:01.946 --> 45:04.847 [SPEAKER_03]: We come from a town where we smart. 45:04.867 --> 45:09.189 [SPEAKER_03]: But this new generation, they hear things, and they go, and they do trends that go out. 45:09.589 --> 45:10.510 [SPEAKER_03]: So we just got to be. 45:10.870 --> 45:20.214 [SPEAKER_03]: There's a lot to do for the things that we promote and the things that we allow to see out in those, those controversial spaces with the young people. 45:20.974 --> 45:23.156 [SPEAKER_03]: Back in the day, yeah, we had ronchiness, but guess what? 45:23.516 --> 45:24.877 [SPEAKER_03]: Them songs were played in the clue. 45:25.757 --> 45:27.598 [SPEAKER_02]: And they had a sign that said, explicit. 45:27.939 --> 45:28.479 [SPEAKER_02]: Right. 45:28.499 --> 45:30.540 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, we knew what we were listening to. 45:30.580 --> 45:34.002 [SPEAKER_03]: Now, one day, you put a playlist on, and he went, I don't know. 45:34.122 --> 45:38.065 [SPEAKER_04]: And we had, we had politicians trying to advocate against that. 45:38.085 --> 45:40.506 [SPEAKER_04]: And people thought that was a little, you know, within our own community. 45:40.526 --> 45:42.908 [SPEAKER_04]: I remember Dorothy Heights and many of us tried. 45:43.288 --> 45:45.670 [SPEAKER_04]: So there were people that were pushing back. 45:46.150 --> 45:48.551 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know, you know, and so it's just a different time. 45:48.571 --> 45:52.974 [SPEAKER_03]: We're just in a different time, but I still because I'm from that time. 45:53.014 --> 46:13.825 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, it's my responsibility to speak up and set a tone and let people know that I'm going to fight for the image that I think black women deserved outside of being pigeon, hold in a space of ratchet ghetto, no morals, and we're just sexual. 46:14.165 --> 46:19.410 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, no, we are all, we're women period out of sight of color. 46:19.911 --> 46:27.938 [SPEAKER_03]: We have all of that guy made us that way, but what we're not going to just be take that one little thing and then you're not going to. 46:28.198 --> 46:29.299 [SPEAKER_03]: And we're not going to do that. 46:29.440 --> 46:29.900 [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly. 46:29.980 --> 46:30.781 [SPEAKER_03]: So no, yeah. 46:31.281 --> 46:34.544 [SPEAKER_04]: And that's what I appreciate you about you was you're very conscious about. 46:35.185 --> 46:44.472 [SPEAKER_04]: the music you put out, what you get connecting to you, who you connect with and I think that's the difference maker, you know? 46:44.572 --> 46:49.836 [SPEAKER_04]: And so, you know, I'm thinking and I wonder if you wouldn't mind singing just the chorus. 46:49.896 --> 46:50.176 [SPEAKER_04]: Okay. 46:50.196 --> 46:50.417 [SPEAKER_04]: Okay. 46:50.617 --> 46:51.357 [SPEAKER_04]: Of our song. 46:51.578 --> 46:52.298 [SPEAKER_04]: She loves blue. 46:52.398 --> 46:56.681 [SPEAKER_04]: I love E. The only reason I add is because we are our sister's keeper. 46:56.781 --> 46:58.102 [SPEAKER_04]: I pull my last thing. 46:58.143 --> 46:58.483 [SPEAKER_04]: Wow. 46:58.543 --> 46:59.223 [SPEAKER_04]: Come on. 46:59.383 --> 47:02.266 [SPEAKER_04]: That song does get at that, um, 47:02.826 --> 47:04.608 [SPEAKER_04]: That's just the hood, as medicine. 47:04.628 --> 47:05.469 [SPEAKER_04]: You know what I'm saying? 47:05.969 --> 47:08.952 [SPEAKER_04]: Sisterhood as healing, you know. 47:09.733 --> 47:11.795 [SPEAKER_04]: And when we see something, say something. 47:11.935 --> 47:12.275 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 47:12.415 --> 47:18.241 [SPEAKER_04]: Right, you know, because it does, it has a line and they're very pointedly, you know, about, 47:19.253 --> 47:20.413 [SPEAKER_04]: Put your hand down, man. 47:21.794 --> 47:23.514 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, okay, yeah, I could sing it, here we go. 47:24.454 --> 47:27.235 [SPEAKER_03]: Put your hands up, we can all be free. 47:27.615 --> 47:30.156 [SPEAKER_02]: Put your hands up, take a walk with me. 47:30.836 --> 47:32.936 [SPEAKER_02]: We're on the same team. 47:33.676 --> 47:35.677 [SPEAKER_02]: That's what we should believe. 47:36.237 --> 47:38.597 [SPEAKER_02]: Put your hands down, let my sisters be. 47:39.098 --> 47:41.878 [SPEAKER_02]: Put your hands down, coming here with me. 47:42.578 --> 47:44.659 [SPEAKER_02]: We're on the same team. 47:45.439 --> 47:47.561 [SPEAKER_02]: That's what we should, buddy. 47:48.141 --> 47:52.425 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we're very biased. 47:52.485 --> 47:56.088 [SPEAKER_03]: Incredible, but that's just a great song. 47:56.108 --> 47:57.930 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, take a walk with me. 47:58.150 --> 47:59.711 [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you guys for the input. 47:59.751 --> 48:00.311 [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you. 48:00.472 --> 48:01.192 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, totally. 48:01.252 --> 48:04.895 [SPEAKER_03]: It's for being easy to work with and thank you. 48:05.015 --> 48:07.177 [SPEAKER_03]: And not disrupting the creativity. 48:07.517 --> 48:08.058 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah. 48:09.680 --> 48:23.081 [SPEAKER_03]: We've had people I have clients that I'm trying to write a song for and that's so disruptive and they're not intentional It's like they're just trying to take over and it's like no and you guys didn't do that you guys were like 48:23.842 --> 48:25.423 [SPEAKER_03]: No, you did was professional girl. 48:25.443 --> 48:28.065 [SPEAKER_03]: We don't know nothing. 48:28.085 --> 48:29.106 [SPEAKER_03]: We should do the pay, you'll be. 48:29.126 --> 48:30.807 [SPEAKER_03]: But look, we over here. 48:30.827 --> 48:32.027 [SPEAKER_03]: We just want to help you, girl. 48:32.067 --> 48:34.069 [SPEAKER_03]: We just got these, just put this in here. 48:34.149 --> 48:34.549 [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly. 48:34.589 --> 48:35.930 [SPEAKER_03]: And I love that. 48:35.950 --> 48:38.251 [SPEAKER_03]: Hey, man, you feel so comfortable with me. 48:39.312 --> 48:42.494 [SPEAKER_03]: You didn't disrupt anything, and I'm just so grateful. 48:42.534 --> 48:46.037 [SPEAKER_03]: This song was made out of love and respect and comfort. 48:47.057 --> 48:53.400 [SPEAKER_03]: It's going to really change a lot of lives to people going here and it's going to pull them even more towards the message. 48:53.460 --> 48:53.980 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. 48:54.001 --> 48:55.161 [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm excited about it. 48:55.621 --> 49:10.328 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, you know, I know many folks who are listening right now are already know who you are, but for the folks who don't, and they've already experienced a pleases of your voice during this interview, more of your story, which is just a powerful story of God's grace shaping your life. 49:10.388 --> 49:13.130 [SPEAKER_01]: And we're excited about all the places that you will go. 49:13.890 --> 49:15.331 [SPEAKER_01]: How can they follow your work? 49:15.391 --> 49:25.015 [SPEAKER_01]: If they're just going to experience your music for the first time What song did they need to click on first and foremost introduce them to you as the music artists and how they can support Work. 49:25.155 --> 49:25.735 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, yes. 49:25.815 --> 49:26.535 [SPEAKER_03]: All right job. 49:26.555 --> 49:29.356 [SPEAKER_03]: I want to welcome y'all to the perfect ten experience. 49:29.376 --> 49:37.920 [SPEAKER_03]: Come on now today You try to find me if you Google 10 T as in Tom e as an egg and in as a Nancy music 49:38.840 --> 49:47.005 [SPEAKER_03]: Ten Smith music everywhere, and also have my own website www.10musicofissue.com. 49:47.405 --> 49:49.566 [SPEAKER_03]: You can find all of my catalog. 49:50.007 --> 49:51.567 [SPEAKER_03]: I have a song called Boss Lady. 49:51.627 --> 50:00.953 [SPEAKER_03]: It's just gotten on my video, got nominated for the South North Carolina video of the year in C. Devolade. 50:01.593 --> 50:05.856 [SPEAKER_03]: And oh, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, I just got the news. 50:05.876 --> 50:19.805 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, you can go check that out and you can follow me on all my social platforms at TE and music, yeah, wait, 10 Smith music, TE and Smith music everywhere. 50:19.825 --> 50:23.888 [SPEAKER_03]: Just put it in there to pop up and yes, I just released another song called 50:27.630 --> 50:32.412 [SPEAKER_03]: It's a, it's a little thing out of my comfort zone because you know I'm always the black pair. 50:32.593 --> 50:44.218 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but we should be, but I've realized I'm a grown woman, and I love to love and I love to bring couples together to get back to the intimacy part of it. 50:44.238 --> 50:49.161 [SPEAKER_03]: We need to make people feel good so cozy is now on even diabetes. 50:49.221 --> 50:51.462 [SPEAKER_03]: I'll be releasing it on all platforms a week. 50:51.782 --> 50:52.082 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 50:52.182 --> 50:53.503 [SPEAKER_03]: So please go support. 50:53.603 --> 50:54.743 [SPEAKER_03]: You can donate. 50:54.783 --> 50:58.664 [SPEAKER_03]: You can send a gift because, you know, going directly to the artist's helps. 50:58.964 --> 50:59.164 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. 50:59.184 --> 51:01.605 [SPEAKER_03]: We don't really get a lot on the other platforms. 51:01.625 --> 51:02.465 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. 51:02.505 --> 51:06.627 [SPEAKER_03]: So going to even that be is will help help me further my condos. 51:06.867 --> 51:07.687 [SPEAKER_03]: It's so. 51:08.207 --> 51:09.248 [SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, it's awesome. 51:09.328 --> 51:10.088 [SPEAKER_03]: 10 Smith music. 51:10.168 --> 51:11.728 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, thank you guys so much. 51:11.748 --> 51:12.108 [SPEAKER_03]: Wow. 51:12.148 --> 51:12.609 [SPEAKER_01]: What a joy. 51:12.649 --> 51:15.269 [SPEAKER_01]: We'll be sure to put that information in our show notes as well. 51:15.329 --> 51:15.930 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. 51:15.970 --> 51:17.310 [SPEAKER_01]: So that people can support your work. 51:17.390 --> 51:18.550 [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you guys. 51:18.751 --> 51:19.311 [SPEAKER_01]: Of course. 51:28.209 --> 51:28.572 [SPEAKER_02]: hands up 51:58.054 --> 52:17.187 [SPEAKER_02]: This is this week coming, so many colors, all of our children, all of our mothers, we rest, we rest, but rest, oh yes, we gotta use, and it can't be us, something's gotta break, and it won't be us. 52:46.307 --> 53:06.687 [SPEAKER_02]: And my heart now is on, he isn't losing Yeah, we're different, and it's okay We gon' bring the table, and we gon' bring the faith on There's no delay, now let me hear you say Hey, oh, I'm never lost for all my claims Better days, we won't see For the women who still believe We're on the show 54:51.827 --> 54:54.068 [SPEAKER_04]: Well, thank you, Tan, for joining us on the table. 54:54.668 --> 54:57.608 [SPEAKER_04]: And we want to thank our sisters for joining us on the table this week. 54:57.648 --> 54:59.369 [SPEAKER_04]: Let's keep the conversation going. 54:59.429 --> 55:01.690 [SPEAKER_04]: What did y'all think about this episode? 55:02.430 --> 55:02.950 [SPEAKER_04]: True stable. 55:03.310 --> 55:06.131 [SPEAKER_04]: We write a music, a singing background, both in the table. 55:06.251 --> 55:10.392 [SPEAKER_02]: Hey, 10 in the 10 list. 55:10.872 --> 55:14.913 [SPEAKER_04]: Let us know your thoughts on social media. 55:15.513 --> 55:18.734 [SPEAKER_04]: Or you can share my email at astrus table at gmail.com. 55:18.754 --> 55:22.895 [SPEAKER_04]: Don't forget to read review the show on iTunes and subscribe on your favorite podcast bar. 55:22.915 --> 55:26.876 [SPEAKER_04]: You can watch this episode on YouTube or you can listen on your favorite podcast player. 55:27.536 --> 55:31.197 [SPEAKER_04]: Black women, Tuesday has a Facebook discipleship group on Facebook. 55:31.217 --> 55:35.678 [SPEAKER_04]: So make sure you join us and answer all the entry questions and you will be let into the group. 55:36.058 --> 55:39.959 [SPEAKER_04]: The executive producers for True Stable are her, Kevin E. 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