WEBVTT 00:06.359 --> 00:08.438 [SPEAKER_03]: The fully choreographed intro with the light. 00:11.164 --> 00:12.525 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh John Musk, like he's gonna do it again. 00:13.065 --> 00:13.605 [SPEAKER_01]: John. 00:13.625 --> 00:15.486 [SPEAKER_03]: John. 00:15.866 --> 00:16.146 [SPEAKER_03]: All right. 00:16.166 --> 00:23.750 [SPEAKER_03]: So you know how every episode we end, the party, or do we, whatever, welcome to the very special episodes here at my guest. 00:24.090 --> 00:28.652 [SPEAKER_03]: Are you not every episode we end the podcast by telling Nigel we love him, and he never says that he loves us back. 00:28.672 --> 00:30.052 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, he told you once that he loves you. 00:30.072 --> 00:30.533 [SPEAKER_03]: He never told me. 00:30.573 --> 00:31.533 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, yeah. 00:33.074 --> 00:38.116 [SPEAKER_03]: But Nigel, you just said something a couple minutes ago before we started recording, that made me feel like maybe you do actually love me. 00:40.447 --> 00:47.010 [SPEAKER_02]: What do you what I don't want it to be I don't want things to be misconstrued Okay, yeah, I think this is mainly pure me. 00:47.170 --> 00:48.071 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, it's for Kevin. 00:48.091 --> 01:01.737 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, you have a little bit it's It's mainly it's all for Kevin Oh And everything with you is transactional and stringent justice no 01:02.417 --> 01:06.660 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, because I told you, I told you last week, I said, you lied to me. 01:08.001 --> 01:09.483 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's not how this week. 01:09.523 --> 01:11.684 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm pissed. 01:11.744 --> 01:14.487 [SPEAKER_02]: Just randomly, just randomly last week. 01:14.867 --> 01:21.552 [SPEAKER_02]: I I mentioned that I was going to send you a couple X-ray detector, bottom of the board. 01:22.113 --> 01:24.555 [SPEAKER_02]: And then I mentioned, I was like, Oh, Kevin, I'll give you a router. 01:24.955 --> 01:27.557 [SPEAKER_02]: And then I just ended up being that every 01:31.540 --> 01:32.320 [SPEAKER_03]: something that's all I was gonna say. 01:32.520 --> 01:40.262 [SPEAKER_02]: And one of those things that you called me out on was the NOS energy drinks saying that they didn't have sugar. 01:40.282 --> 01:46.683 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you told me because I told you that Mountain to Kickstarter is my favorite canned beverage, so they're the light beer. 01:47.283 --> 01:52.224 [SPEAKER_03]: And that you said it had sugar in NOS in the same way that Kickstarter has sugar. 01:52.244 --> 01:52.944 [SPEAKER_03]: It's like a teaser. 01:52.964 --> 01:56.125 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm butchering this half like half sugar, half artificial sweetener. 01:56.845 --> 01:57.885 [SPEAKER_03]: And you're like, well, NOS has. 01:58.305 --> 01:58.786 [SPEAKER_03]: And I was like, 02:02.178 --> 02:06.179 [SPEAKER_03]: What did it have I don't remember, but it was like none of it was sugar. 02:06.239 --> 02:08.639 [SPEAKER_03]: It all said zero sugar, zero grams of sugar on the can. 02:08.779 --> 02:09.979 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, okay. 02:10.039 --> 02:11.320 [SPEAKER_02]: So whatever that may be. 02:11.340 --> 02:15.160 [SPEAKER_02]: It's interesting because here we have a zero version, but then there's a regular version. 02:15.900 --> 02:27.302 [SPEAKER_02]: But it's kind of the I realized today, the regular version is kind of the worst form of regular because it's just like the standard, the energy drink comes in like kind 02:30.943 --> 02:31.163 [SPEAKER_02]: 500. 02:31.303 --> 02:36.545 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, but it has 53 grams of sugar. 02:37.585 --> 02:38.405 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm a simple man. 02:38.465 --> 02:39.205 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm a simple man. 02:39.225 --> 02:39.965 [SPEAKER_03]: You know what I want? 02:40.706 --> 02:42.386 [SPEAKER_03]: I want energy. 02:42.966 --> 02:47.047 [SPEAKER_03]: I want soda and I don't want it to have a shit ton of sugar in it. 02:47.067 --> 02:49.568 [SPEAKER_03]: But wait, and I don't want it to be all artificial sweeteners. 02:50.668 --> 02:54.269 [SPEAKER_02]: That is less than probably readable. 02:54.309 --> 02:56.690 [SPEAKER_03]: How much sugar is fucking crazy, though? 02:58.325 --> 03:08.471 [SPEAKER_02]: I look at Red Bull 500 MLs in ingredients, but basically it also has sucralose, so it has artificial sweetener, but it also has a curve, this is an old sugar figure. 03:09.492 --> 03:21.279 [SPEAKER_03]: 54 grams of sugar is so much, even like, I've been, you know, just doing the soda recipes, like, every night, I spent like an hour right, because you kind of get like taste saturated, it's hard. 03:21.419 --> 03:21.739 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah. 03:22.740 --> 03:35.766 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, I'm trying to like, figure out how to whittle them down, make them better and, you know, we have like a starting point that everyone came up with, but it's like, so much sugar. 03:37.073 --> 03:41.795 [SPEAKER_03]: Like I'm making I like I'm doing like a quarter can of each one right and it's like six. 03:42.655 --> 03:57.520 [SPEAKER_03]: No, it's like 12 milliliters of like simple syrup like like or super satire like a 70% sugar satirated Yeah, and like it's so saturated that the sugar crystals like I mean, you know, it's just a slowly fucking Sharks out of solution and forms these like awesome cubes, right? 03:57.641 --> 03:58.781 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and 03:59.900 --> 04:04.344 [SPEAKER_03]: It is like the sugar itself like if you were just eat the sugar the syrup. 04:04.784 --> 04:05.785 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, so much sugar. 04:06.225 --> 04:08.627 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like two three teaspoons of sugar. 04:09.288 --> 04:14.252 [SPEAKER_02]: It's no, it's I think it's way more than if it's so the sugars the sugars in loss. 04:15.693 --> 04:27.378 [SPEAKER_02]: is I think it says a 500 milliliter red ball has 54 grams, a 473 milliliter noss has 54 grams. 04:27.818 --> 04:32.080 [SPEAKER_02]: So it's slightly more sugar than red ball, but they also add sucralose. 04:32.600 --> 04:39.403 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, see that's I don't know who do I send an email to or I'm like no to go the opposite direction. 04:39.443 --> 04:41.304 [SPEAKER_03]: Don't make it sweeter with our shoulders. 04:41.464 --> 04:41.804 [SPEAKER_03]: So there's 04:44.722 --> 04:59.267 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, no, they're like, we're going to keep all the sugar but make it sugar here in a can of soda like a quarter can of soda like this this recipe is a making has the same amount of sugar that I would like put in a full cup of tea. 05:00.848 --> 05:07.790 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so the tea like drinking tea like the way I like it is like a quarter of the sugar of a can of soda. 05:08.215 --> 05:16.117 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, lightly sweetened like it's sweet but lightly sweetened, but soda has so many flavors in it. 05:16.597 --> 05:17.217 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm learning a lot. 05:17.257 --> 05:30.161 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, we've talked a little bit earlier outside of the podcast, but like I'm learning a lot about flavors and largely it's all sort of accidents and bullshit, like it's horribly complicated. 05:30.181 --> 05:30.601 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 05:31.981 --> 05:48.285 [SPEAKER_03]: And the flavors that are in soda, like the acids and the, you know, like the sort of tannic, the bitter stuff, like whatever you call it, the bit, not a bitter end, but kind of it can only be remedied or smooth out with sugar. 05:49.145 --> 05:53.186 [SPEAKER_03]: And then you add the carbonation to it, which, like, makes it more hard to taste the sugar. 05:53.566 --> 05:54.587 [SPEAKER_03]: You ever tasted, like, 06:00.589 --> 06:03.176 [SPEAKER_01]: overpowering it like completely saturates your mouth. 06:03.416 --> 06:05.882 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but if you put a bunch of sugar in all of a sense very nice. 06:06.062 --> 06:07.285 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, it's like ice cream. 06:07.626 --> 06:07.947 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah 06:08.273 --> 06:32.565 [SPEAKER_03]: And so there's something that happens when you put things into a beverage that don't taste good or they taste good once mixed with sugar and you have to hide them with sugar it's a some sodas have more shit in them that needs to be hidden with more sweet flavor or it needs to I don't I don't you want to say mask because all kind of part of the flavor profile. 06:32.745 --> 06:35.387 [SPEAKER_01]: I think Coca-Cola would taste like absolute ass. 06:35.487 --> 06:36.067 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, sugar. 06:36.107 --> 06:37.028 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, it definitely does. 06:37.048 --> 06:38.309 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, we could do that experiment. 06:38.349 --> 06:39.770 [SPEAKER_03]: Like what is Coke tastes like, let's sugar. 06:40.070 --> 06:42.172 [SPEAKER_03]: But like, that's, this is a crazy part of the whole thing. 06:42.232 --> 06:45.354 [SPEAKER_03]: It's like, there's almost no acid in soda. 06:45.414 --> 06:47.175 [SPEAKER_03]: It's very small amount of acid. 06:48.316 --> 06:55.981 [SPEAKER_03]: And the flavor oil, like what you think of when you think of Coke is all aromatic. 06:56.522 --> 06:57.823 [SPEAKER_03]: You don't taste it at all. 06:58.919 --> 07:00.020 [SPEAKER_03]: You don't take any of it. 07:00.540 --> 07:04.222 [SPEAKER_03]: Like the cherry flavor, like the beans that I've been sell died. 07:04.522 --> 07:05.282 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he always depends. 07:05.362 --> 07:05.843 [SPEAKER_03]: It's all died. 07:05.863 --> 07:07.003 [SPEAKER_03]: It's all died. 07:07.364 --> 07:08.564 [SPEAKER_03]: You just melt it. 07:08.584 --> 07:12.186 [SPEAKER_03]: Like I could be wrong because my sense of smell is like not as good as I wish it was. 07:12.586 --> 07:18.570 [SPEAKER_03]: But like if you plug your nose and you taste something within the other, you cannot receive it. 07:18.630 --> 07:19.710 [SPEAKER_01]: No, you don't taste it. 07:19.730 --> 07:20.250 [SPEAKER_01]: You don't taste it. 07:20.270 --> 07:21.491 [SPEAKER_01]: I think technically there is. 07:21.531 --> 07:22.492 [SPEAKER_01]: When, but yeah. 07:23.352 --> 07:38.741 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's the same reason why when people have COVID or had COVID and they completely lost their sense of smell or like when I said that I lost my sense of smell from something, you know, completely different food was literally flavorless and it's not because you can't taste it. 07:40.090 --> 07:47.076 [SPEAKER_02]: I think baby I detected like saltiness and sweetness, but it's like actual flavor. 07:47.276 --> 07:47.957 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was God. 07:48.137 --> 07:48.297 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. 07:48.317 --> 07:52.080 [SPEAKER_02]: So here's my remember it was like it was it was it was without the flavor. 07:52.160 --> 07:58.145 [SPEAKER_02]: It was borderline like texture became the biggest thing because there wasn't that much else going. 07:58.365 --> 08:03.409 [SPEAKER_03]: I have not done any research on this, but like having done so many experiments, my theory. 08:04.230 --> 08:11.133 [SPEAKER_03]: is that you can't actually, you don't actually taste with your tongue 90% of what you perceive labor as to be. 08:11.814 --> 08:15.155 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, I think your tongue can taste like five things. 08:15.936 --> 08:18.797 [SPEAKER_03]: And they're all like the whole classic flavors. 08:19.097 --> 08:28.442 [SPEAKER_03]: Like sweet, sour, salty, the kind of umami, like savory, bitter, everything else is smells. 08:30.273 --> 08:54.832 [SPEAKER_02]: Like that is so weird to me that you think that this is your tongue and it's not and I think it's like I haven't looked deeply into it, but it's also like obviously when you're eating, there's two ways that the smells can get to you like For before the food or the drink goes or while the drinks going in your mouth or it's at the back of your throat, so I think it's like how you breathe. 08:56.292 --> 09:03.635 [SPEAKER_02]: When you're drinking, there is like some sort of like the the aromatics go up the back of your nose, I think. 09:03.995 --> 09:11.778 [SPEAKER_02]: I think this is a thing and then it's the kind of comparison between the background noise and then what's there. 09:13.218 --> 09:18.761 [SPEAKER_02]: you're brain like maps over the flavor on your tongue as like flavor. 09:19.422 --> 09:22.183 [SPEAKER_02]: It's just like, yeah, there's some sort of ice. 09:22.243 --> 09:25.325 [SPEAKER_01]: So do you think you could eat Cerstromig with your nose completely? 09:25.365 --> 09:27.366 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, if you had COVID, do you think you could handle it? 09:27.846 --> 09:28.427 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. 09:28.467 --> 09:36.671 [SPEAKER_03]: So you think that you know as well, eating Cerstromig or you can't smell, I think that it is a significantly less difficult experience if not completely. 09:38.112 --> 09:45.857 [SPEAKER_02]: I think there's a difference between plugging your nose and not smelling, because even when you plug your nose, some of it goes up the back here, nose, and you still smell. 09:46.357 --> 09:48.319 [SPEAKER_02]: So it's like, there is a difference. 09:48.639 --> 09:58.565 [SPEAKER_02]: I think if you plug your nose, you lose like 90 or 95 percent of your taste, but like the COVID-related smell loss and, I mean, other conditions that completely remove it. 09:59.386 --> 10:03.068 [SPEAKER_02]: Like I said, when I had it, I literally could not taste anything. 10:03.524 --> 10:12.490 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, what if you take McDonald's french fries and you put it in a chamber and you pump gas into that chamber through the chamber up into your nose and then you eat Cerstralmig. 10:13.290 --> 10:15.412 [SPEAKER_01]: So all you smell is McDonald's french fries. 10:15.572 --> 10:20.775 [SPEAKER_02]: I think that I think so mix in the back here and those and be some more fresh right then more fresh. 10:20.815 --> 10:26.919 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, well, what if you like if the tube was sealed at the bottom of your nose, like you like sealed off your nasal cavity at the back. 10:26.979 --> 10:32.483 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that the only smells that could get into your mouth to come like out your mouth up to the front of your nose. 10:33.943 --> 10:42.745 [SPEAKER_03]: Because I think that, remember that sponsor that was all over YouTube for a second, it was the water bottles that you could, that like, yeah, yeah. 10:43.185 --> 10:45.526 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, I think that's like an actual thing. 10:46.186 --> 10:51.528 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, that's what La Croix is, or any of these flavors sparkling water, it's like, it doesn't actually taste like anything. 10:51.588 --> 10:53.128 [SPEAKER_03]: It's just flavor. 10:57.630 --> 10:58.390 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, damn it. 10:58.410 --> 10:59.091 [SPEAKER_01]: You're so right. 10:59.171 --> 11:01.011 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm I'm shocked. 11:01.471 --> 11:04.832 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how it's hailed through my nose that I'm like, oh, it tastes like black black. 11:04.852 --> 11:07.353 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, black raspberry whatever. 11:07.373 --> 11:09.754 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, which probably isn't actually even real black. 11:10.054 --> 11:10.574 [SPEAKER_01]: I spary. 11:10.734 --> 11:12.335 [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like everything's a lie. 11:12.355 --> 11:23.678 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I also feel stupid saying that because obviously it all kind of makes sense, but I've never really like digested the fact that none of these flavors are actually things you taste. 11:24.758 --> 11:26.619 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to do a test and get you to chip right now. 11:41.872 --> 11:46.074 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, that is not, I just, I don't know, I don't know. 11:46.354 --> 11:49.476 [SPEAKER_01]: It's funny, your eyes can see something and say, like, don't eat this. 11:49.536 --> 11:52.117 [SPEAKER_01]: And then you smell it and your nose is like, put this in your mouth. 11:52.337 --> 11:53.958 [SPEAKER_01]: And then your mouth is like, why did you do that? 11:54.018 --> 11:55.579 [SPEAKER_01]: But spit it out. 11:55.619 --> 11:58.720 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think, I think, I think, which also, the opposite. 11:59.961 --> 12:09.146 [SPEAKER_02]: The thing that I think is also interesting that adds to that, like Kevin kind of saying your eyes, it's like, if you, and they've done a bunch of studies on it, and it's pretty well known. 12:09.866 --> 12:37.449 [SPEAKER_02]: if you take different food like the same meal and you put like different colored lights people I think generally blue light is like very off putting like people will maybe not taste it different but it'll be like nauseated by the food but there is like a thing where like adding color or altering the the the presentation of it will change your perception of the flavor even though 12:39.744 --> 12:54.723 [SPEAKER_03]: So somebody on our Discord server, let's say it's a Discord server, shared a YouTube video, they found that was a sort of, I guess, science or loose science of savory flavor, like umami, you know, MSG, right? 12:55.303 --> 12:55.584 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 12:56.111 --> 13:10.812 [SPEAKER_03]: So the video explains that the savory compound glutamate, your tongue detect, and then there's these auxiliary compounds that 13:11.573 --> 13:31.584 [SPEAKER_03]: amplify the signal from the receptor on your tongue that tastes glutamate and so tasting something is not just oh it has this thing in it it's oh it has this thing in it and it also has this second thing in it at a large enough you know ratio 13:32.744 --> 13:34.465 [SPEAKER_03]: to amplify the signal. 13:34.485 --> 13:35.926 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, there's something that happens. 13:35.946 --> 13:40.388 [SPEAKER_03]: And so, like, it could literally be one of those things where you could put more sugar in something. 13:40.428 --> 13:43.269 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if this works, if there's like a sugar equivalent of this, it probably is. 13:44.129 --> 13:53.154 [SPEAKER_03]: And so, when you taste like whenever that interaction occurs on your tongue right where the sugar you're like, you know, essentially triggers your sweet taste sensing. 13:53.594 --> 13:56.755 [SPEAKER_03]: And then there's some other thing in there that triggers it stronger. 13:57.076 --> 14:00.237 [SPEAKER_03]: And so, less sugar plus the like, what would you even call that? 14:02.055 --> 14:06.296 [SPEAKER_03]: No, it's not a catalyst, but like kind of the same idea, like an intensifier. 14:06.316 --> 14:06.676 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 14:07.216 --> 14:07.816 [SPEAKER_03]: Potentiometer. 14:07.917 --> 14:09.077 [SPEAKER_01]: Potentiometer. 14:09.117 --> 14:13.678 [SPEAKER_03]: Potentiometer and like I think that's really weird. 14:13.698 --> 14:20.920 [SPEAKER_03]: And so what the, um, I don't know the author, whatever, what do you call a video creator, the cringetuber? 14:21.620 --> 14:24.542 [SPEAKER_03]: they, you know, like list off the sources of this. 14:24.783 --> 14:40.695 [SPEAKER_03]: And my conclusion is like my most interesting takeaway from this whole video is that plants tend to have large quantities, I think, of the intensifier, or is it going around? 14:41.716 --> 14:45.939 [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe plants have, wait, just, no, I'm like there's a animal flash. 14:47.517 --> 14:48.398 [SPEAKER_03]: has one of them. 14:49.038 --> 14:55.024 [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's the plants that that like up the, you know, the, you know, the intense of the fire, the intense of the fire. 14:55.064 --> 14:58.967 [SPEAKER_01]: I think too, you know, like when you put like the seaweed flakes and the sesame seed like that. 14:59.488 --> 15:02.530 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, for a cocky on stuff that makes it taste better. 15:03.051 --> 15:05.393 [SPEAKER_01]: Let me only even if there's no salt in it. 15:06.467 --> 15:07.988 [SPEAKER_03]: What are they called? 15:08.068 --> 15:12.129 [SPEAKER_01]: I was reading that checks mix has a thing going on where it's like, I think the same thing. 15:12.389 --> 15:20.532 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, they have the, the umami flavor, but then they also basically have a drug in there that makes you more receptive to that flavor. 15:20.812 --> 15:28.854 [SPEAKER_01]: So it's like, you like, I don't know, like, makes checks mix addictive or tasty, more satisfying. 15:28.894 --> 15:30.815 [SPEAKER_01]: Like it's messing with your neurotransmitters. 15:30.895 --> 15:32.736 [SPEAKER_01]: It's not just like, you're tasting it. 15:32.756 --> 15:32.996 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 15:34.336 --> 15:35.057 [SPEAKER_03]: It's like drugs. 15:35.277 --> 15:51.672 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, yeah, like there's something happening that like modifies the way that you perceive this signals to make the flavor more intense and I wish I should have I should have done more I should have written this down because I think it's very interesting but like it essentially like. 15:52.372 --> 16:02.639 [SPEAKER_03]: What my thought was, there's a lot of food that is really popular and good was not necessarily invented by somebody because they knew this. 16:02.799 --> 16:08.983 [SPEAKER_03]: It was just sort of that natural selection of like, oh, this plus of this is really good. 16:09.604 --> 16:11.225 [SPEAKER_03]: But like, what does it really good mean? 16:12.145 --> 16:12.486 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 16:12.606 --> 16:35.160 [SPEAKER_03]: And why is it that either these things on their own, you know, like, I mean, what is something like, you know, bunny to flakes or mayonnaise or sesame seeds, like, you know, there's all these things that taste okay, but then you like add, you know, when you put like, have you ever had like a salted butter versus unsalted butter moment? 16:36.607 --> 16:47.191 [SPEAKER_03]: Which one do you like better salted butter but you don't think that like unsalted's powered or your heart Maybe like why you're like oh, it's toast right? 16:47.251 --> 16:59.636 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like butter exactly butter on toast like unsalted butter is wild It just tastes like oils yeah, yeah, like I you're like I don't want salt on my toast And then you put salt on your toast and you're just like 17:00.096 --> 17:00.817 [SPEAKER_03]: Holy shit. 17:01.197 --> 17:03.459 [SPEAKER_03]: The sweetness is better. 17:04.000 --> 17:04.180 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 17:04.220 --> 17:13.348 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's not exactly the same thing as the glutinate in the intensifier, but like there's these combinations that I feel like just we don't actually have any free will. 17:13.408 --> 17:18.612 [SPEAKER_03]: Like our body just works in a way and we've like just stumbled across certain things. 17:18.672 --> 17:18.993 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 17:19.213 --> 17:21.475 [SPEAKER_03]: And it's like, yeah, I know this is the thing that you just get to 17:21.855 --> 17:24.078 [SPEAKER_01]: or a cinnamon sugar on toast and butter. 17:24.318 --> 17:26.882 [SPEAKER_01]: So if you just do sugar and butter, it's kind of weird. 17:26.902 --> 17:31.027 [SPEAKER_01]: If you just do like cinnamon, it's weird, but you combine all three of them and it's magic. 17:31.047 --> 17:31.308 [SPEAKER_01]: Why? 17:32.449 --> 17:32.830 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know. 17:33.090 --> 17:35.353 [SPEAKER_03]: And then the cinnamon you probably can't even taste, it's only a smell. 17:36.308 --> 17:38.610 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, just, it also just feels gritty on its own. 17:39.250 --> 17:41.271 [SPEAKER_03]: I just, it's magic, but I don't know. 17:41.331 --> 17:48.276 [SPEAKER_03]: I guess what I'm trying to say is, there's something fucking wrong with people because I have this, I don't even have a suspicion. 17:48.296 --> 17:49.417 [SPEAKER_03]: I think it's like fully confirmed. 17:49.777 --> 17:56.762 [SPEAKER_03]: I think that we, I don't get any of the things that I want from big companies, like, like unsweetened I see that as a thing. 17:57.082 --> 18:03.367 [SPEAKER_03]: But like lower sugar sodas, because I think that everybody just fucking love, we should. 18:03.887 --> 18:07.349 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, like they wouldn't drink like that soda would bomb. 18:07.369 --> 18:08.109 [SPEAKER_01]: It would do horrible. 18:08.489 --> 18:09.189 [SPEAKER_01]: No, he would buy it. 18:09.389 --> 18:17.533 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, because even though like the ginger color right it's good the one that we made it's good. 18:17.553 --> 18:18.533 [SPEAKER_03]: You know Chelsea told me the other day. 18:20.174 --> 18:24.956 [SPEAKER_03]: She said that she said that she was thinking about the ginger color. 18:25.396 --> 18:26.337 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, good. 18:26.417 --> 18:27.717 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, yeah, she wasn't out there. 18:27.837 --> 18:31.659 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not trying to like float your ego, but like I thought about it. 18:33.186 --> 18:48.341 [SPEAKER_03]: Hmm, okay, and I'm sitting there thinking like I love ginger flavor like not like candy necessarily, but like like a ginger cola is like I love that and I don't know why it's not a thing because it's such an easy flavor 18:49.028 --> 19:11.577 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, so one thing I would say that something that I think is interesting, if you travel around, I mean, like we went to Japan and stuff, I think what's also an added layer on all these flavor things is like depending on where you go and I change this even down to like, you know, local areas, people's flavor profiles and what they like just seem to change. 19:11.937 --> 19:12.458 [SPEAKER_02]: So it's like, 19:13.551 --> 19:30.083 [SPEAKER_02]: If you go around and try Coke in every country you go to, it's all different and just recently, like a couple weeks ago, we ordered Indian food and we got an orange fanta and my girlfriend was like this socks. 19:30.243 --> 19:31.203 [SPEAKER_02]: She didn't even finish it. 19:31.544 --> 19:35.846 [SPEAKER_02]: It literally smells and tastes like surface cleaner. 19:36.587 --> 19:37.888 [SPEAKER_02]: Like it's very floral. 19:38.028 --> 19:40.870 [SPEAKER_03]: Like it all, it's very clear or was it kind of opaque? 19:43.429 --> 19:56.546 [SPEAKER_03]: uh... did it look like your sort of typical store orange and just looked like fans like it was well it just was like normal fan like in fanta you wouldn't know the european ones are like kind of cloudy 19:58.137 --> 20:00.400 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, well, no, I'm saying it was an Indian fanter. 20:00.480 --> 20:00.981 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, it was. 20:01.141 --> 20:02.483 [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, it was. 20:02.503 --> 20:03.544 [SPEAKER_02]: It said, made an Indian. 20:03.564 --> 20:03.624 [SPEAKER_02]: OK. 20:04.846 --> 20:10.753 [SPEAKER_02]: So, but it tasted floral almost like, um, I don't know. 20:10.874 --> 20:12.656 [SPEAKER_02]: It's not like, no, it's not toxic. 20:12.676 --> 20:13.337 [SPEAKER_02]: But it, 20:14.017 --> 20:22.224 [SPEAKER_02]: It's like Indian food is very aromatic and it almost felt like that was kind of what was going on in the fanta Like it was very there's a lot of smells. 20:22.244 --> 20:22.564 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know. 20:22.825 --> 20:31.192 [SPEAKER_02]: It felt like there was an extra aromatic thing going on And then like you mentioned here up I hate orange fanta and a bunch of European places really because 20:32.152 --> 20:34.173 [SPEAKER_02]: In certain places, it's just bad. 20:34.514 --> 20:43.639 [SPEAKER_02]: Like it has a weird flavor, but my point being is that like the soda flavor is like tailored to the flavor palette of that area. 20:44.039 --> 20:45.940 [SPEAKER_02]: And it's like, you might think something's amazing. 20:46.700 --> 20:48.982 [SPEAKER_02]: And then you go somewhere else. 20:49.362 --> 20:51.243 [SPEAKER_02]: And you give them the drink you think's great. 20:51.323 --> 20:56.966 [SPEAKER_02]: And they're like the exact thing you like about it for whatever reason, everyone in that area is like, all that, that's the reason why I don't like it. 20:57.026 --> 20:58.227 [SPEAKER_02]: And you're like, huh. 20:58.627 --> 21:06.484 [SPEAKER_02]: So the taste itself is just so subjective, but like collectively subjective by that whole region. 21:07.173 --> 21:14.479 [SPEAKER_03]: I think if it was socially acceptable here, the preference that everyone would pick would be straight up sugar water. 21:14.979 --> 21:18.542 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like, I mean, if there is no health implications, yes. 21:18.702 --> 21:22.385 [SPEAKER_03]: But I don't think that anyone gives a shit about the health implications. 21:22.405 --> 21:25.327 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, have you, that's how old lady makes sweet tea. 21:25.407 --> 21:28.689 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, yeah, that is like to me. 21:29.570 --> 21:29.810 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 21:29.870 --> 21:36.912 [SPEAKER_03]: Back that sweet tea, like, and I don't know if you understand what sweet tea is, like, some people doesn't do it. 21:36.932 --> 21:38.513 [SPEAKER_03]: I'd like to try some other sweet tea. 21:38.533 --> 21:40.494 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, proper sweet tea. 21:40.774 --> 21:41.034 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 21:41.534 --> 21:41.734 [SPEAKER_03]: Is. 21:42.094 --> 21:42.454 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 21:42.614 --> 21:43.415 [SPEAKER_03]: A fail. 21:43.475 --> 21:44.355 [SPEAKER_03]: The fact that it exists. 21:45.068 --> 21:50.232 [SPEAKER_03]: is like the most embarrassing failure of the education is a major. 21:51.052 --> 21:56.196 [SPEAKER_02]: They hired scientists to crack the code on breaking the limit of sugar. 21:56.216 --> 21:58.218 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, which it can fit in water. 21:58.358 --> 21:59.579 [SPEAKER_02]: How the fuck? 21:59.939 --> 22:01.160 [SPEAKER_02]: It's like so sugar. 22:01.180 --> 22:02.661 [SPEAKER_02]: What is the tea doing? 22:03.341 --> 22:03.762 [SPEAKER_03]: It's like... 22:04.382 --> 22:05.282 [SPEAKER_03]: It's doing nothing. 22:05.302 --> 22:06.163 [SPEAKER_02]: He's healthy. 22:06.223 --> 22:08.123 [SPEAKER_02]: It's like pure sugar. 22:08.543 --> 22:12.485 [SPEAKER_02]: It's like pure sugar with the essence of tea kind of as an afterthought. 22:12.505 --> 22:19.407 [SPEAKER_03]: And I genuinely think that the tea is like green washing. 22:19.847 --> 22:44.278 [SPEAKER_03]: Like in the same way that like BP only advertising whatever fucking shit they're doing like a windmill project and never advertising dolphins covered in oil is like sugar only advertising with the tea flavor and not the sugar well yeah this is why drugs aren't legal yeah you're just me yep I I don't know I think that I 22:46.219 --> 22:47.599 [SPEAKER_03]: I have a lot of feelings. 22:47.639 --> 22:54.041 [SPEAKER_03]: I feel like there's a really niche market though, but then you get to like the problem with food and beverages is like the economics of it. 22:54.301 --> 22:57.462 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, just imagine trying to sell a soda for like $2. 22:58.563 --> 22:59.083 [SPEAKER_03]: Right? 22:59.903 --> 23:06.605 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, how do you get a soda into a store and have profit and it costs $2 to the customer? 23:06.945 --> 23:08.325 [SPEAKER_03]: And you have to ship it from where? 23:08.345 --> 23:09.226 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, you're shipping things. 23:09.246 --> 23:11.226 [SPEAKER_03]: You need factories, like it's an enormous infrastructure. 23:11.246 --> 23:13.407 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, I don't actually don't think you could sell 23:14.467 --> 23:23.514 [SPEAKER_03]: a soda that was a thing that didn't hit this enormous market because not enough people are into it. 23:24.495 --> 23:26.176 [SPEAKER_03]: And so you can't like support it. 23:26.357 --> 23:27.938 [SPEAKER_03]: Like the supply chain can't exist. 23:28.478 --> 23:33.742 [SPEAKER_03]: And so like if you want to have an enormous market, your drink has to be really good. 23:34.343 --> 23:35.764 [SPEAKER_03]: And what is really good in America? 23:36.364 --> 23:36.965 [SPEAKER_03]: Really sweet. 23:39.147 --> 23:49.270 [SPEAKER_03]: Does that make any sense like that's how I feel like in order to make a drink that you can actually sell on shelves, it has to be horrifically sweet. 23:50.230 --> 23:52.110 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, that's why kids are drinking prime. 23:52.391 --> 23:55.491 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, those are really fucking, are they still drinking them? 23:55.511 --> 23:56.512 [SPEAKER_03]: I thought they like died. 23:57.132 --> 24:01.393 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I think they died, but yeah, I mean, they were drinking them. 24:03.039 --> 24:04.060 [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, why? 24:04.221 --> 24:05.742 [SPEAKER_03]: That's, I feel like I never see mom and do kicks. 24:05.782 --> 24:07.764 [SPEAKER_03]: They're anymore when I was a kid. 24:07.784 --> 24:09.947 [SPEAKER_01]: They had a $1 sweet tease that make Donald's. 24:10.768 --> 24:16.254 [SPEAKER_01]: And I would just go like every day and I would get the large sweet tea that I think it has like 80 grams of sugar. 24:16.394 --> 24:16.654 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 24:16.854 --> 24:18.676 [SPEAKER_01]: And I would drink one of those like almost every day. 24:18.696 --> 24:19.938 [SPEAKER_01]: And you probably had no idea. 24:20.338 --> 24:21.299 [SPEAKER_01]: You didn't really know what that meant. 24:21.359 --> 24:21.579 [SPEAKER_01]: No. 24:22.981 --> 24:23.161 [SPEAKER_01]: No. 24:25.527 --> 24:26.348 [SPEAKER_01]: They were so good. 24:26.628 --> 24:29.850 [SPEAKER_01]: They would get me like so amped and wired too because it's a lot of T also. 24:29.910 --> 24:30.450 [SPEAKER_01]: And caffeine. 24:30.470 --> 24:30.791 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 24:30.811 --> 24:30.951 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 24:30.971 --> 24:31.471 [SPEAKER_01]: That's what I mean. 24:31.491 --> 24:31.671 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 24:32.172 --> 24:32.852 [SPEAKER_03]: For large. 24:34.173 --> 24:34.814 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, that's a good. 24:34.834 --> 24:37.976 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, my list of topics or things that I'm thinking about this week. 24:38.196 --> 24:40.397 [SPEAKER_03]: Um, McDonald's, right? 24:40.477 --> 24:40.998 [SPEAKER_03]: Am I right? 24:41.018 --> 24:43.199 [SPEAKER_03]: Do you see that fucking dude? 24:43.680 --> 24:44.981 [SPEAKER_03]: The CEO, the Mixio. 24:45.101 --> 24:46.702 [SPEAKER_01]: Couldn't even handle his own product. 24:46.962 --> 24:49.224 [SPEAKER_03]: Holy shit. 24:49.244 --> 24:51.145 [SPEAKER_03]: I, I am like, I'm trying. 24:51.565 --> 24:53.607 [SPEAKER_03]: I've been trying to figure out like what? 24:54.247 --> 24:57.889 [SPEAKER_03]: that room was when they filmed that, were there 10 people in that room? 24:58.509 --> 25:01.430 [SPEAKER_03]: Was that just a CEO and like an intern? 25:01.991 --> 25:04.712 [SPEAKER_03]: Like where are we sitting with this McDonald's ear? 25:04.992 --> 25:08.234 [SPEAKER_03]: Or maybe maybe I should explain with what it's talking about. 25:08.534 --> 25:09.694 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so there's a video. 25:10.855 --> 25:13.856 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, she's got a deal of on her Iraq if you haven't heard of this maybe. 25:15.117 --> 25:17.818 [SPEAKER_03]: The past week there has been a whole 25:21.900 --> 25:37.545 [SPEAKER_03]: Making videos of them eating their products because the McDonald's CEO posted a video of him eating their new burger product and it is fucking hilariously cringe like 25:37.925 --> 26:02.380 [SPEAKER_03]: who green lit this who filmed it who edited it and who gave the thumbs up to send it out the fucking door so you who who did it who and undercover burger yeah yeah that's a say like a fucking spy espionade so basically what happens is the CEO comes he's like sitting at this table and you know he's just he's kind of like a nerdy guy like fine whatever like you're allowed to be a nerdy guy 26:02.980 --> 26:11.666 [SPEAKER_03]: Um, but basically has, like, uh, he like rolled a one on charisma and it's, have you seen it? 26:11.706 --> 26:15.028 [SPEAKER_02]: I know I saw the thumbnail. 26:15.068 --> 26:16.308 [SPEAKER_02]: So I know exactly what you're talking about. 26:16.329 --> 26:17.569 [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe John, we should just play it because it has on you. 26:17.589 --> 26:20.831 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it feels like somebody is, oh, I saw camera holding a gun to his head. 26:20.951 --> 26:23.633 [SPEAKER_01]: He's a vegan and they're making him take a bite of this burger. 26:23.973 --> 26:26.975 [SPEAKER_03]: And he, he calls it the product. 26:27.656 --> 26:29.217 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, even on Twitter. 26:29.237 --> 26:30.417 [SPEAKER_03]: It's like, try our new product. 26:32.058 --> 26:35.342 [SPEAKER_03]: That's what they call bugging ice cream that they can't legally call ice cream. 26:35.462 --> 26:37.224 [SPEAKER_03]: Like what the fuck are you doing? 26:37.244 --> 26:38.926 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm calling it product. 26:39.406 --> 26:40.047 [SPEAKER_03]: Cheese food. 26:40.067 --> 26:41.248 [SPEAKER_03]: You ever looked at craft singles? 26:41.268 --> 26:42.330 [SPEAKER_03]: Is this cheese food on them? 26:42.510 --> 26:44.512 [SPEAKER_03]: Cheese flavored treat or did they deserve? 26:44.572 --> 26:48.737 [SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no, no, so I have a defense of craft singles. 26:48.957 --> 26:50.598 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I'm not saying they're bad. 26:50.638 --> 26:52.819 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm just saying a legally can't call some cheese. 26:53.259 --> 26:53.519 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes. 26:54.019 --> 26:55.960 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, no, but what's what I find interesting. 26:55.980 --> 27:01.863 [SPEAKER_02]: This is a tangent, but what I do find interesting about that is the reason they can't legally do it. 27:02.383 --> 27:14.829 [SPEAKER_02]: It's kind of like the negative aspect of it is an implication that people kind of just take away from it themselves where basically the FDA decided that 27:17.317 --> 27:23.123 [SPEAKER_02]: Just legally has to have a certain amount of solids in it, or of original cheese. 27:23.423 --> 27:26.506 [SPEAKER_02]: Otherwise, people could just dilute it to basically nothing. 27:27.027 --> 27:29.510 [SPEAKER_02]: So they set an arbitrary percentage. 27:30.733 --> 27:34.035 [SPEAKER_02]: That is like below this, you can't sell it as pure cheese. 27:34.055 --> 27:35.196 [SPEAKER_03]: It's a lower receiver of cheese. 27:35.216 --> 27:36.056 [SPEAKER_03]: So 80%. 27:36.096 --> 27:37.017 [SPEAKER_03]: 80% cheese. 27:38.818 --> 27:47.683 [SPEAKER_02]: But it's like, if you set, if you've mixed it, if you added enough water to it, which is all you're doing, you can't sell it as pure cheese, legally. 27:48.043 --> 27:54.727 [SPEAKER_02]: So the moment it falls into pure, like that category, like below that percent, you have to call it a cheese product. 27:54.907 --> 27:56.107 [SPEAKER_02]: What do you know what the percentage is? 27:57.648 --> 28:00.570 [SPEAKER_02]: For some reason my head it's like 53% I don't know if that's actually true. 28:00.590 --> 28:01.290 [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like lower. 28:01.451 --> 28:11.236 [SPEAKER_02]: It should be But like normal cheese almost everything is like only is at least like 30 40% water Anyway, kind of makes sense. 28:11.876 --> 28:23.083 [SPEAKER_02]: So 53 it could be like normal cheese is like 63 so you're only like 15% last You can add whatever a lot of these are up to it numbers before it starts falling apart on its own 28:23.423 --> 28:27.525 [SPEAKER_03]: because I think it's like adding all the stabilizers and whatnot to like stretch the water thinner. 28:27.825 --> 28:28.145 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 28:28.685 --> 28:29.485 [SPEAKER_03]: That's where to me. 28:29.505 --> 28:30.005 [SPEAKER_03]: They put in. 28:30.065 --> 28:42.310 [SPEAKER_02]: It's like you will you have to put in like a bit like an emulsifier, but it's like it is interesting to me that like if you have 1% above the limit, you can just call it cheese. 28:42.370 --> 28:45.891 [SPEAKER_02]: You have one you literally tick you can be I guess 0.1% above. 28:46.211 --> 28:49.673 [SPEAKER_02]: You tick below legally it's a cheese product and then people go, 28:50.953 --> 28:53.054 [SPEAKER_02]: It like the conspiracy theory starts. 28:53.094 --> 28:54.315 [SPEAKER_02]: So what really is it? 28:54.335 --> 28:56.516 [SPEAKER_02]: And they're like it's the same thing, but a bit more water. 28:56.576 --> 29:00.497 [SPEAKER_02]: Like the class singles to be fair as a bunch of extra preservatives. 29:00.597 --> 29:05.279 [SPEAKER_02]: And but there is I think Delhi cheese that they slice on the Delhi machine. 29:05.299 --> 29:06.380 [SPEAKER_02]: That's kind of how it started. 29:07.500 --> 29:12.763 [SPEAKER_02]: They made a softer cheese and people want to make them for burgers so they would actually melt because cheddar doesn't melt. 29:14.123 --> 29:18.266 [SPEAKER_02]: And it's like, I think technically the ones that still can call it cheese. 29:18.586 --> 29:24.689 [SPEAKER_02]: They just skirt just above, so it's legally cheese, but the other ones will not tear into it melts better. 29:24.709 --> 29:27.471 [SPEAKER_02]: They add more water, and then they call it a cheese product. 29:28.011 --> 29:34.915 [SPEAKER_02]: But it's like, at the end of the day, it's, besides, maybe a craft sink was probably a bunch of crap in them, but for the most part, it's kind of the same thing. 29:35.395 --> 29:36.956 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm defending cheese product. 29:44.000 --> 29:50.842 [SPEAKER_03]: That kind of, I mean, it stems from the meme of, you know, the science fair kid, you know, like, I'm just going to keep it in the risk. 29:51.102 --> 29:56.524 [SPEAKER_03]: But like, beyond that, we had always kind of, oh, shit, the fucking face track you got this year. 29:56.624 --> 29:58.984 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, no. 29:59.464 --> 30:04.546 [SPEAKER_03]: It was always like, uh, oh, it's like, something and like, meet, like, talk about me. 30:04.646 --> 30:09.787 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I was going to say, I wanted to defend Taco Bell now because he defended of cheese product. 30:09.827 --> 30:10.908 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to defend Taco Bell. 30:12.748 --> 30:13.089 [SPEAKER_01]: It is. 30:13.449 --> 30:16.074 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's like, their thing is like, it's 87% beef. 30:16.194 --> 30:16.454 [SPEAKER_03]: Right. 30:16.855 --> 30:26.230 [SPEAKER_01]: And everybody's like, well, you know, you're cutting the beef, but I mean, if you go by beef from a supermarket and you get the low grade beef, number one, it is also only 87% beef, the rest is fat. 30:27.782 --> 30:28.522 [SPEAKER_03]: They like add fat. 30:28.903 --> 30:45.252 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, but like 80 it's like yeah, what is when talkable says 80% or 85% beef does that mean like 85% meat and then 15% fat or is it like are they seeing this other additives it's like other additives, but it's mainly water and then like you could add grain cornstarch. 30:45.292 --> 30:49.634 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you could add that starts like you could add flour or like oatmeal or something and all the spices. 30:49.795 --> 30:54.037 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and it would like and I actually this is see this is this this is the grayer. 30:54.117 --> 30:58.439 [SPEAKER_02]: No, Kevin, it has to be 100% unflavered, unaltered beef in my talk. 30:58.499 --> 31:04.262 [SPEAKER_03]: There are things you can put into the ground beef in that in my personal opinion would make it better. 31:04.522 --> 31:04.822 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. 31:05.242 --> 31:15.327 [SPEAKER_03]: Now, the problem is that you give that the thumbs up and all of a sudden they're putting stuff in the ground beef, not to make it better, but so that they can put 50% less corn beef in it. 31:15.967 --> 31:17.448 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and that's the part that scares me. 31:17.468 --> 31:39.076 [SPEAKER_03]: I've like we've figured out how to you know We put the correct acid into this blended cardboard to like tear the soft in the fibers up so that you can't tell the difference between Softened cardboard fiber mixed in with our beef Well, I think it's a quality control thing because you know, so they ship the beef like preseasoned and they're like marinated Oh, yeah, I think you can't trust the employee to do that. 31:39.096 --> 31:42.757 [SPEAKER_01]: Have you ever seen like how much salt something like they're putting on the french fries and McDonald's 31:43.277 --> 32:00.610 [SPEAKER_03]: sometimes they just like do the whole day's worth of salt and one bad yeah that's what I love it when there's so much salt it burns your mouth that's that's the good McDonald's we should watch the sea over it maybe zoom it out john i think if you make it small enough the base tracker won't catch it on another some weird problem there's some air that i don't fully 32:01.431 --> 32:03.312 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, locked on, target acquired. 32:03.632 --> 32:06.813 [SPEAKER_00]: Chris K. here with you've heard about it. 32:07.313 --> 32:09.334 [SPEAKER_00]: Here it is, the big arch. 32:09.835 --> 32:12.196 [SPEAKER_00]: This is something that we have to have a new product. 32:12.516 --> 32:13.196 [SPEAKER_03]: This is what he started. 32:13.216 --> 32:14.977 [SPEAKER_00]: Portugal, Germany, Canada. 32:15.337 --> 32:16.577 [SPEAKER_00]: I love this product. 32:16.717 --> 32:17.638 [SPEAKER_00]: It is so good. 32:17.738 --> 32:21.519 [SPEAKER_00]: We're going to do a tasting right now, but I'm going to eat this for my lunch just so you know. 32:21.699 --> 32:22.860 [SPEAKER_00]: So here we go. 32:23.000 --> 32:24.381 [SPEAKER_00]: First, holy cow. 32:24.761 --> 32:25.801 [SPEAKER_00]: God, that is a big bird. 32:25.821 --> 32:26.181 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't watch. 32:26.201 --> 32:29.723 [SPEAKER_00]: We've got a very unique kind of sesame. 32:30.183 --> 32:50.781 [SPEAKER_00]: copy sort of bun on it poppy got two So bad, he's a delicious big-arge sauce and of course some lettuce so oh, there's so much going on with this First of all, let's try to get this thing I don't even know how to attack it got so much to it, but the hamburger Happy that's with it. 32:50.821 --> 32:52.183 [SPEAKER_00]: That's why you should attack it. 32:52.203 --> 32:52.903 [SPEAKER_00]: You dog. 32:53.424 --> 32:54.745 [SPEAKER_00]: All right the moment of truth 32:56.758 --> 32:57.278 [SPEAKER_00]: baby bite. 32:58.319 --> 33:00.060 [SPEAKER_00]: I can't even see the part of it. 33:00.200 --> 33:00.480 [SPEAKER_00]: I know. 33:00.880 --> 33:02.741 [SPEAKER_00]: That's a big bite for a big arch. 33:02.961 --> 33:06.023 [SPEAKER_00]: No, he didn't even get the meat. 33:06.924 --> 33:09.085 [SPEAKER_00]: He's definitely a vegetarian or something wrong. 33:09.125 --> 33:10.486 [SPEAKER_00]: Like anything else on our menu. 33:10.686 --> 33:12.127 [SPEAKER_00]: It's a delicious product. 33:12.267 --> 33:15.248 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, you've got sort of the cheeses and the goodness. 33:15.288 --> 33:19.150 [SPEAKER_00]: But those crispy onions as well because a nice texture and of course we've got the pickles. 33:19.190 --> 33:20.831 [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm going to 33:24.092 --> 33:24.933 [SPEAKER_00]: try it when you get it. 33:25.333 --> 33:38.321 [SPEAKER_03]: This video actually makes you feel like a lot better about myself and everything we do because there are so many amateur hour mistakes in that video that I genuinely don't believe for a second. 33:38.341 --> 33:41.243 [SPEAKER_03]: There was anybody in that room except him and like an assistant. 33:41.743 --> 33:45.826 [SPEAKER_03]: If there were that entire team should be fucking fired. 33:45.946 --> 33:46.146 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 33:46.346 --> 33:48.608 [SPEAKER_03]: Like the premise conceptually, 33:49.374 --> 33:56.537 [SPEAKER_03]: the CEO comes in and shows you something that is new to you and him. 33:57.158 --> 33:57.418 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 33:57.558 --> 33:58.678 [SPEAKER_03]: That's how it's framed. 33:58.979 --> 33:59.219 [SPEAKER_03]: Yep. 33:59.279 --> 34:03.481 [SPEAKER_03]: He is seeing it for the first time is how he starts showing you the burger. 34:03.581 --> 34:03.841 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 34:04.221 --> 34:05.962 [SPEAKER_03]: But there's no way that's the first time you see it. 34:06.142 --> 34:06.422 [SPEAKER_03]: Right. 34:06.502 --> 34:08.823 [SPEAKER_03]: In what fucking world should 34:13.036 --> 34:17.138 [SPEAKER_03]: the new product of the company, he's the CEO of. 34:17.439 --> 34:19.540 [SPEAKER_03]: That's, there's a million ways to do that. 34:19.560 --> 34:21.781 [SPEAKER_03]: That's immediately a fucking disaster. 34:22.121 --> 34:25.123 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, it, like, what the fuck were they thinking? 34:25.143 --> 34:27.044 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, how many people did this go through? 34:27.465 --> 34:30.046 [SPEAKER_03]: What, like, what school, what qualifications? 34:30.286 --> 34:36.370 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, your average YouTuber could do a better job stitching together, something that's, I don't really want to say good, but not that fuck. 34:36.390 --> 34:41.393 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, that is a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a 34:41.473 --> 34:46.355 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, what should his redemption video be if you were in your team? 34:46.535 --> 34:58.180 [SPEAKER_03]: Not, I don't know, something awesome with heavy metal music, like maybe like driving down our freeway just smashing in the cars in his own car with heavy metal playing. 34:58.200 --> 34:59.140 [SPEAKER_03]: I'd be like, like, I sick. 34:59.440 --> 34:59.680 [SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm. 35:00.120 --> 35:01.421 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, what about you Nigel? 35:02.961 --> 35:03.242 [SPEAKER_01]: What? 35:04.042 --> 35:05.602 [SPEAKER_01]: What should his redemption video be? 35:06.803 --> 35:09.064 [SPEAKER_01]: Sticking his hand in a deep fryer, trying to find out. 35:11.148 --> 35:13.671 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, I think he's cooked. 35:13.792 --> 35:14.913 [SPEAKER_03]: I think he's fully cooked. 35:14.973 --> 35:15.934 [SPEAKER_03]: I agree with my joke. 35:16.595 --> 35:19.218 [SPEAKER_02]: I think because my, okay, here's my analysis comment. 35:19.359 --> 35:20.019 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay analysis. 35:20.080 --> 35:24.105 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, this is it's going to be hard to explain this, but it's 35:25.643 --> 35:32.508 [SPEAKER_02]: somebody who does something like that is not capable of redeeming themselves. 35:32.728 --> 35:32.888 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 35:33.168 --> 35:35.490 [SPEAKER_02]: So it's kind of like what Will was saying. 35:35.530 --> 35:43.795 [SPEAKER_02]: It's like you've already displayed such a level of like miss like inability to judge the situation. 35:43.935 --> 35:44.155 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 35:44.435 --> 35:51.000 [SPEAKER_02]: And I don't know, like I'm saying, it's like the awkward weirdness of the video is that is not 35:52.058 --> 35:57.386 [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like that's not somebody who could redeem themselves, because to redeem yourself, you need to, like, 35:58.468 --> 36:22.666 [SPEAKER_02]: have shandra described it's like no, it's a beautiful bill of cooler member of the handsome the hemp handsome liquorberg era oh yeah i guess it's so dreamy described it's it's almost like a like a a character on a show right does something and then when they let's say he does his redemption arc it's like still that character in could show a cancer 36:25.097 --> 36:29.520 [SPEAKER_03]: But if you fuck one goat, yeah, you're known as the goat. 36:29.540 --> 36:30.841 [SPEAKER_03]: You're known as the goat fucker. 36:31.081 --> 36:33.303 [SPEAKER_03]: Who also happened to cure cancer? 36:35.004 --> 36:35.925 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, I just feel the controversy. 36:35.945 --> 36:40.608 [SPEAKER_01]: I just feel the controversy section is bigger than the like, get shemen section on your Wikipedia page. 36:40.908 --> 36:43.250 [SPEAKER_01]: Get, I'll say, I don't come to you. 36:44.291 --> 36:46.192 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think what he did was that severe. 36:46.372 --> 36:46.992 [SPEAKER_02]: Pretty close. 36:47.093 --> 36:52.917 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I think it's like, well, okay, because here's, here's the problem. 36:53.577 --> 37:21.858 [SPEAKER_03]: in general with all of this do you do like this isn't like quantitative or anything but like what is a thing that even your enemy won't do buck with food yeah food is this sacred part of humanity that even if you're a prisoner of war like they'll fucking kill you and they'll torture you but do you know what they will not do 37:23.295 --> 37:24.035 [SPEAKER_03]: Buck with your food. 37:24.595 --> 37:26.616 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, you know, it happens when you fuck with people's food. 37:27.376 --> 37:34.058 [SPEAKER_03]: The entire planet will unify against you to obliterate your existence. 37:34.098 --> 37:38.919 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, I don't know how that is such a strong connection between people. 37:38.939 --> 37:41.000 [SPEAKER_01]: Dude, there was literally a, 37:42.958 --> 37:43.739 [SPEAKER_03]: Wait, what are you looking at? 37:43.799 --> 37:45.340 [SPEAKER_01]: The McDonald's stock. 37:45.660 --> 38:08.555 [SPEAKER_03]: Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha 38:08.735 --> 38:14.718 [SPEAKER_03]: just told everyone in this country that he doesn't believe in his own food and he's kind of afraid of it. 38:15.579 --> 38:19.400 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think the only right he should he should have said, this is our new burger. 38:19.420 --> 38:19.961 [SPEAKER_01]: It's really big. 38:20.001 --> 38:21.662 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to see if I can eat it in three bites. 38:21.682 --> 38:21.882 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 38:22.622 --> 38:23.763 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I actually know what he could do. 38:23.783 --> 38:26.544 [SPEAKER_03]: He could shove the whole fucking thing in his mouth in one bite. 38:26.564 --> 38:27.284 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, exactly. 38:27.344 --> 38:28.685 [SPEAKER_03]: That's what he could do to redeem himself. 38:28.705 --> 38:29.566 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, that's what I was saying. 38:34.812 --> 38:37.114 [SPEAKER_03]: We're never going to get sponsored every time. 38:37.134 --> 38:40.897 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, even the follow up videos from the other CEOs were kind of like just lame. 38:41.097 --> 38:45.881 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but they were like, they were, okay, like, they still all only took like one bite. 38:45.901 --> 38:51.145 [SPEAKER_01]: They were master classes compared like the McDonald's videos still come on so bad. 38:52.086 --> 38:56.009 [SPEAKER_03]: That everything else in Paris and is borderland genius. 38:56.069 --> 38:59.912 [SPEAKER_01]: It feels like something your mom would send you like the they made. 38:59.932 --> 39:00.032 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 39:01.414 --> 39:08.447 [SPEAKER_02]: That's kind of what I'm saying is like the entire machine that led to create that video is so 39:10.660 --> 39:36.485 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, it's like corporate that that's why I'm saying I feel like the redemption video is impossible because it's like somebody would be like we need to redeem ourselves let's do like even if you had one guy with a radical idea it'd be like oh we got everybody would say no you got to do this cool thing did like no like and they all try to go back to the exact same lot like the exacting track that led them to this video what I when I find so 39:39.525 --> 39:49.595 [SPEAKER_03]: even though it is so corporate, I feel like even corporate wouldn't fuck this up, which is why I'm so curious as to like, what? 39:49.816 --> 39:50.056 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 39:50.716 --> 39:52.598 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, as if this was done purposefully. 39:52.959 --> 39:53.800 [SPEAKER_03]: No way. 39:54.941 --> 39:55.541 [SPEAKER_01]: No, okay. 39:55.581 --> 39:58.805 [SPEAKER_01]: You can go back on Instagram and it's the same kind of videos. 39:59.045 --> 39:59.485 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, really? 39:59.505 --> 39:59.725 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 39:59.806 --> 40:00.666 [SPEAKER_02]: For how long, Kevin? 40:00.907 --> 40:02.048 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, for for a long time. 40:02.801 --> 40:03.782 [SPEAKER_02]: like how long a year? 40:04.442 --> 40:04.722 [SPEAKER_02]: More. 40:05.102 --> 40:30.318 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I wasn't looking at the dates, but there's like a lot of them where he like tries to bite about a chicken sandwich kind of thing and he like it's a long con Kevin maybe maybe I just I feel like everything we do like everything that you know on at least the realm of youtubers and creators that that I like to associate with everyone tries to do thing like you know you're building stuff. 40:31.590 --> 40:35.711 [SPEAKER_03]: I am, like, making things, building stuff. 40:36.631 --> 40:38.132 [SPEAKER_03]: Nigel is doing stuff. 40:38.712 --> 40:39.892 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's tough. 40:40.572 --> 40:51.295 [SPEAKER_03]: What I don't understand is as a consumer, I want to participate in something where someone is trying to do something good. 40:52.208 --> 40:54.250 [SPEAKER_03]: And I don't mean like, societally good. 40:54.630 --> 40:59.575 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean like, the dude who runs a barbecue joint who's like, I have made the perfect brisket. 40:59.595 --> 41:02.557 [SPEAKER_03]: I spent the past six years of my life perfecting these earth. 41:02.917 --> 41:05.039 [SPEAKER_03]: And here you got the motherfucking McDonald's CEO. 41:05.640 --> 41:09.543 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, his only job is to be like, oh, we're cooking a good shit in here. 41:09.884 --> 41:14.488 [SPEAKER_03]: But instead, he sits there and he's like, it has an interesting bun. 41:15.765 --> 41:17.966 [SPEAKER_03]: Hmm, how am I going to attack it? 41:18.206 --> 41:28.168 [SPEAKER_03]: Like fucking tell me what you cooked up asshole Tell me why you're excited about this fucking hamburger Don't show it to me like you're discovering it for the first time. 41:28.188 --> 41:33.910 [SPEAKER_03]: It's like your ass should be in the kitchen cooking shit up All the what the fuck you doing is a CEO. 41:33.930 --> 41:34.910 [SPEAKER_03]: You know what they're doing 41:35.730 --> 41:38.631 [SPEAKER_03]: Is there running a company and they're managing spreadsheets? 41:38.892 --> 41:41.593 [SPEAKER_03]: Do you know what McDonald's is and why he calls it a product? 41:42.193 --> 41:46.655 [SPEAKER_03]: Because he runs a machine, not a company that tries to make food good. 41:47.156 --> 41:57.921 [SPEAKER_03]: And so when he comes in there and says, Here's how our food is good, but he doesn't actually fucking know what good food is, because he doesn't try to make good food because his whole fucking job is numbers. 41:58.401 --> 42:00.062 [SPEAKER_03]: Here's our new products for Q2. 42:00.122 --> 42:01.803 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the circuit to burgers. 42:02.563 --> 42:03.944 [SPEAKER_03]: It's our Q2 burger. 42:04.725 --> 42:05.986 [SPEAKER_01]: That's what they should honestly call it. 42:06.186 --> 42:11.150 [SPEAKER_01]: The Q2 Shambrashake milkshakes Like the next time they know the milkshakes make ribbons back. 42:11.430 --> 42:17.455 [SPEAKER_03]: I want you to start talking about why the McRib is gone and how it has some weird shit to do with like pork surpluses. 42:17.475 --> 42:30.846 [SPEAKER_03]: He's like so we the quarter three was a bad quarter for a pork And so we were able to amass you know the spreadsheet told us to buy four thousand pig corpses And that's why the McRib is bad like that's how they approach it more profitable than ever 42:31.126 --> 42:33.807 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, it's not like, hey, we're cooking up shit in the kitchen. 42:33.867 --> 42:36.588 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like, enjoy our quarter to beef. 42:36.908 --> 42:38.888 [SPEAKER_01]: You know what they should do in quarter to pounder. 42:39.249 --> 42:43.590 [SPEAKER_01]: I would say, like, if you had this Instagram page, right? 42:43.790 --> 42:49.872 [SPEAKER_01]: You say every week, you have to like, the kitchen makes you some cursed contraption that was like the top comment on the last one. 42:49.892 --> 42:50.732 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah. 42:50.752 --> 42:52.693 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so you have like a twin tower burger. 42:52.713 --> 42:55.474 [SPEAKER_01]: You'll know what your food is when you get shot. 42:55.494 --> 42:59.095 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Barney's really going to discover what he's eating for the first time. 42:59.135 --> 42:59.375 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. 42:59.935 --> 43:03.297 [SPEAKER_03]: I definitely, like, do you tell us what the pink goo is in that picture? 43:03.317 --> 43:04.778 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, eat the pink goo. 43:04.798 --> 43:06.079 [SPEAKER_03]: Eat the pink goo, you coward. 43:06.399 --> 43:09.161 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, when Monsanto executives drink life, I say it. 43:09.501 --> 43:10.982 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, drink the pink goo. 43:11.123 --> 43:16.886 [SPEAKER_03]: They could, they could pay any of us, like, what would a consulting fee to come in? 43:17.046 --> 43:26.993 [SPEAKER_03]: And I mean, I don't know, maybe it's a bad example, but like, it would be not a lot of money to just say, this is fucking bad, and this is how you should do it. 43:27.113 --> 43:32.738 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, because if I make something and I show it to you, you will tell me, like, that's what that's kind of shit. 43:32.778 --> 43:34.840 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Shetty or like, here's what I think is. 43:34.880 --> 43:35.941 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this is what you should do. 43:36.021 --> 43:37.002 [SPEAKER_01]: And it's like the same thing. 43:37.022 --> 43:39.264 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, that's what that's what I would do to Nigel. 43:39.584 --> 43:44.348 [SPEAKER_01]: I would say you're not a good chemist or like your cookie your perfect cookie doesn't. 43:44.568 --> 43:45.329 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, perfect. 43:46.189 --> 43:46.550 [SPEAKER_01]: Kevin. 43:47.030 --> 43:50.933 [SPEAKER_01]: I would tell you because I'm your fan, this McDonald's CEO has no friends. 43:51.133 --> 43:51.354 [SPEAKER_03]: No. 43:52.374 --> 44:06.425 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, I genuinely don't know why they thought it was a good idea to take someone whose job it is to be the guiding vision of the company and then project out arguably one of the worst guiding visions I've ever seen. 44:06.445 --> 44:06.906 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 44:06.926 --> 44:09.808 [SPEAKER_03]: You should have just kept him in his fucking office. 44:09.848 --> 44:10.288 [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly. 44:10.388 --> 44:11.289 [SPEAKER_03]: That's what they should have done. 44:11.309 --> 44:12.370 [SPEAKER_03]: That's what you do with CEOs. 44:12.390 --> 44:12.610 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 44:12.630 --> 44:13.230 [SPEAKER_03]: You have like the fun 44:15.372 --> 44:27.640 [SPEAKER_03]: If your CEO is curious about you, okay, so here's, I mean, God, we could do like a full-fucking hour-long breakdown of, of like, why, like, where I think every failure moment was, but like, we could long story short when you watch the video, what you'll see happen. 44:28.538 --> 44:57.786 [SPEAKER_03]: Is it starts off as like an unboxing or like a discovery where it's like the CEO is discovering this hamburger with the viewer immediately immediately catastrophic right like that's not the relationship that you would expect the CEO to have with this new fucking piece of bread with with me on it like you expect this relationship to be much deeper and meaningful with a fucking product of this company's making and then at some point like halfway through the video his relationship with it changes and he starts telling you about it as if he already knows. 44:59.365 --> 44:59.546 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 45:00.348 --> 45:01.351 [SPEAKER_01]: Holy shit. 45:01.391 --> 45:03.457 [SPEAKER_01]: This is not even like Bill Mickey 101. 45:05.701 --> 45:06.841 [SPEAKER_01]: This is like one. 45:06.861 --> 45:07.822 [SPEAKER_01]: You know what they tried to do? 45:07.842 --> 45:09.782 [SPEAKER_01]: They tried to make it too real. 45:10.082 --> 45:10.322 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. 45:10.503 --> 45:16.965 [SPEAKER_01]: Like having them sit there with like the like okay lighting, the you know like camera angle like set down low. 45:17.025 --> 45:19.705 [SPEAKER_01]: It just feels like they're trying to make it authentic. 45:19.906 --> 45:22.186 [SPEAKER_01]: You notice at the french fries change, how far through the video too? 45:22.426 --> 45:23.107 [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't notice that. 45:23.327 --> 45:24.847 [SPEAKER_03]: So like here's a tip. 45:25.487 --> 45:30.169 [SPEAKER_03]: When you're watching a video like the McDonald's one and you see the camera pop in and pop out. 45:31.049 --> 45:31.570 [SPEAKER_03]: That's a cut. 45:31.710 --> 45:33.633 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, it's on his face and come. 45:33.653 --> 45:46.672 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, it's like multiple things that they're stitching together and they're hiding the stitching to make it feel like it's one continuous take and at some point the French fries get bigger the amount of French fries in the in the yeah. 45:47.678 --> 45:48.979 [SPEAKER_01]: So that's how you know, it's not real. 45:49.099 --> 45:50.341 [SPEAKER_01]: There is like a whole team there. 45:50.381 --> 45:57.988 [SPEAKER_03]: Like this is a whole team or yeah, there's or yeah, except that's why I'm so curious, like I am flabbergasted. 45:58.589 --> 46:00.290 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like actually flabbergasted. 46:00.310 --> 46:02.573 [SPEAKER_03]: It's like a billion, multi-billion dollar company. 46:02.593 --> 46:06.056 [SPEAKER_01]: And it feels like they have interns running the social media to like for the CEO. 46:06.096 --> 46:07.778 [SPEAKER_03]: I think interns are too better Kevin. 46:07.798 --> 46:09.880 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's what I'm so confused about. 46:10.020 --> 46:11.441 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, interns like would do better. 46:11.461 --> 46:12.062 [SPEAKER_03]: Who fucking? 46:12.382 --> 46:14.904 [SPEAKER_03]: Who gave the thumbs up for this shit? 46:15.325 --> 46:24.373 [SPEAKER_03]: Who gas the CEO into like thinking he was, you know, some make marketing master a product it's our new product 46:26.901 --> 46:34.584 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so like, I mean, honestly, like you can just watch any of the other like burger flatbacks, Mr. Mc's CEO for a fucking, just not even. 46:34.645 --> 46:36.645 [SPEAKER_03]: It's not even the CEO's fault, dude. 46:36.685 --> 46:42.968 [SPEAKER_03]: It's whoever spearheaded that and like delivered the footage to somebody like holy shit. 46:42.988 --> 46:48.010 [SPEAKER_03]: You're like, you'll notice, okay, here's like, you know, my, my top analysis of the Burger King one. 46:49.371 --> 46:50.672 [SPEAKER_03]: How does the Burger King one go down? 46:50.712 --> 46:53.693 [SPEAKER_03]: Can you think of the top of your head when the Burger King CEO eats the burger? 46:54.335 --> 46:57.577 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, camera is hidden camera. 46:58.478 --> 47:01.000 [SPEAKER_03]: It's not actually, but that's the perception. 47:01.020 --> 47:12.789 [SPEAKER_03]: That's like the perspective of the video is he's facing I was a point he's facing in this direction towards the left towards like the rest of the kitchen. 47:12.809 --> 47:15.511 [SPEAKER_03]: He's facing forwards in the cameras to the left. 47:16.352 --> 47:16.672 [SPEAKER_03]: He's 47:17.192 --> 47:18.994 [SPEAKER_03]: unaware of the cameras, or he knows the camera's there. 47:19.314 --> 47:31.184 [SPEAKER_03]: But perceivably in the video, he's unaware of the camera, he opens the burger, he takes a big bite, and he says, like, oh, the only thing that's missing is like a napkin, he's got like white cream all over his lip. 47:31.244 --> 47:33.266 [SPEAKER_03]: It's like a delicious little cream squirt. 47:33.626 --> 47:33.847 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 47:34.717 --> 47:38.521 [SPEAKER_01]: It looks like he was hanging out with the chefs in the kitchen, cooking the food. 47:38.781 --> 47:40.143 [SPEAKER_01]: He tried to bite of the burger. 47:40.163 --> 47:42.846 [SPEAKER_03]: Organically, he's not talking to the fucking camera. 47:43.186 --> 47:48.752 [SPEAKER_03]: You get to listen to this sort of what appears to be a private moment that was caught candidly. 47:49.113 --> 47:51.235 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, it's not framed while the camera's lower. 47:51.275 --> 47:53.537 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, it's not good. 47:54.278 --> 48:07.166 [SPEAKER_03]: But it's perfect compared to the McDonald's, and I, it actually makes me mad that this company makes so much money and this is the what the fucking people in charge output, like whole shit. 48:07.206 --> 48:07.586 [SPEAKER_03]: What is it doing? 48:07.606 --> 48:08.807 [SPEAKER_01]: What are they putting in our food? 48:08.847 --> 48:10.107 [SPEAKER_01]: What are they putting in our food? 48:10.187 --> 48:11.348 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 48:11.388 --> 48:14.970 [SPEAKER_03]: Tell us, but your new product in a way that isn't psychotic. 48:17.552 --> 48:17.772 [SPEAKER_01]: Dude. 48:18.943 --> 48:20.924 [SPEAKER_01]: Where else are they cutting corners everywhere? 48:21.224 --> 48:21.764 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, yeah. 48:21.844 --> 48:23.365 [SPEAKER_03]: Have you had the McDonald's recently? 48:23.605 --> 48:24.525 [SPEAKER_03]: It's fucking garbage. 48:24.565 --> 48:28.646 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, man, the McChicken is just getting Saturn, Saturn. 48:28.667 --> 48:29.327 [SPEAKER_01]: I thinner. 48:29.347 --> 48:30.647 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, to come to Canada. 48:30.927 --> 48:31.327 [SPEAKER_01]: Is it better? 48:31.347 --> 48:31.808 [SPEAKER_01]: Rubberier. 48:31.828 --> 48:35.569 [SPEAKER_02]: I haven't noticed many changes to be honest. 48:36.965 --> 48:39.527 [SPEAKER_03]: Hmm, it's definitely way worse here. 48:39.768 --> 48:43.351 [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like it's lost about a third of its weight or something. 48:43.591 --> 48:46.534 [SPEAKER_03]: Like in the, in the, in the pictures of the patty, getting thinner in the pickles. 48:47.535 --> 48:49.056 [SPEAKER_03]: That's not even a big, I think. 48:49.537 --> 48:55.922 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, the pickle and patty kind of like convergence, like the, um, with the little bit of the, the black, whole line. 48:56.583 --> 48:58.144 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, uh, event horizon. 48:58.245 --> 49:01.888 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, event horizon of like the pickle patty thickness. 49:03.440 --> 49:14.812 [SPEAKER_02]: That's for like, they're eventually like the pickles are going to get bigger than the bad at some point and then you're going to they're going to start doing that like I think that Japanese thing where they shave like the super thin. 49:14.972 --> 49:23.360 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, yeah, the one they're going to do that, but with like chicken, it's kind of being like transparent Micro toms sliced. 49:23.400 --> 49:26.043 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, exactly one cell thick 49:27.121 --> 49:44.453 [SPEAKER_03]: It makes me want to go and get like one of every burger though and just finally be like you know what fuck this let's see what's up like I remember like faster such a big part of my life, you know in high school because it's like cheap you have a car you have a place to hang out with friends friends and it's sort of turned into this like. 49:45.213 --> 49:50.795 [SPEAKER_03]: not a place to hang out, like the dining halls are like either closed or completely unwelcoming. 49:52.336 --> 49:54.156 [SPEAKER_03]: The food has gotten significantly worse. 49:54.196 --> 49:56.897 [SPEAKER_03]: The prices have gotten significantly more expensive. 49:57.717 --> 50:06.280 [SPEAKER_03]: And I think that like the quality of the experience and food in general is far below the like value property. 50:06.300 --> 50:12.042 [SPEAKER_03]: Like they're sort of taking the top leg of that K-shaped economy while somehow I don't think anyone would put them there in their mind. 50:12.062 --> 50:13.023 [SPEAKER_03]: Like that's not where McDonald's 50:14.799 --> 50:15.139 [SPEAKER_01]: No. 50:15.660 --> 50:17.983 [SPEAKER_01]: I think we should go to Canada and try some of their fast food. 50:18.844 --> 50:24.470 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I don't know if I trust Nigel's taste in food though to be honest. 50:25.371 --> 50:27.213 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, I'll eat whatever he needs. 50:28.174 --> 50:32.379 [SPEAKER_02]: But I think his food in the end is, wow, how dare you. 50:33.909 --> 50:35.291 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, Allen's in Japan right now. 50:35.651 --> 50:41.338 [SPEAKER_01]: So I just texted him in order for some monster cubed and so I'm jealous. 50:41.378 --> 50:42.880 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, you know, I see charged. 50:43.460 --> 50:44.301 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, is it called Pepsi? 50:44.362 --> 50:46.284 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I couldn't remember the name Pepsi. 50:46.464 --> 50:47.505 [SPEAKER_01]: It's Pepsi charge. 50:47.585 --> 50:49.608 [SPEAKER_01]: Actually, I just said the if the Pepsi want to. 50:51.395 --> 50:52.256 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, that's more at. 50:52.276 --> 50:54.179 [SPEAKER_02]: That's very open ended. 50:54.439 --> 51:06.654 [SPEAKER_02]: He knows he knows to go to Don Kyoto and get me a huge bag of those whatever those those bubblegums that come at a box. 51:06.814 --> 51:07.235 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah. 51:08.265 --> 51:24.580 [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, I thought I would do obviously very important that when it's talk about, um, um, did you guys see, I know Kevin did because I showed him, did you see the kid in Irvine, California that got his entire fucking house rated because of his chemistry experiments. 51:26.062 --> 51:28.444 [SPEAKER_03]: In his family got his kicked out of the house and he lived in Hothel. 51:31.129 --> 51:31.249 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 51:31.349 --> 51:32.450 [SPEAKER_02]: Probably deserved it, right? 51:32.931 --> 51:34.032 [SPEAKER_02]: I must be dangerous. 51:35.014 --> 51:36.135 [SPEAKER_02]: Probably making drugs. 51:36.355 --> 51:36.856 [SPEAKER_03]: Probably. 51:36.876 --> 51:39.099 [SPEAKER_03]: He's like 17 years old. 51:39.720 --> 51:40.821 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, so I'll just. 51:41.042 --> 51:42.684 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, red flag number one. 51:42.704 --> 51:45.067 [SPEAKER_03]: I um, lift the camera. 51:45.087 --> 51:46.589 [SPEAKER_02]: No, I didn't hear what this at all, actually. 51:47.420 --> 51:56.062 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, so the kid's name, his name, is, um, his name is a Malvin Brit. 51:56.482 --> 51:59.943 [SPEAKER_03]: He has a chemistry channel called Kim Tato. 52:00.223 --> 52:03.504 [SPEAKER_03]: Very small chemistry channel, like couple hundred views on a couple of videos. 52:03.524 --> 52:05.204 [SPEAKER_03]: You might have deleted all this videos, I would too. 52:05.844 --> 52:07.105 [SPEAKER_03]: So apparently what happened? 52:07.405 --> 52:08.165 [SPEAKER_03]: He's 17 years old. 52:08.185 --> 52:09.045 [SPEAKER_03]: He's like in college too. 52:09.165 --> 52:10.646 [SPEAKER_03]: Like graduate at high school. 52:10.666 --> 52:11.606 [SPEAKER_03]: 13 or something crazy like that. 52:11.706 --> 52:11.946 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 52:12.386 --> 52:13.446 [SPEAKER_03]: Which honestly sounds horrible. 52:13.466 --> 52:16.447 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think you should ever let your kid sleep high school that early. 52:17.848 --> 52:28.276 [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe by a junior year, but like Jesus Christ being 13 years old in college, like that's no I don't think any I don't think that is a well-rounded childhood in my personal opinion. 52:28.296 --> 52:29.136 [SPEAKER_03]: No. 52:29.637 --> 52:30.918 [SPEAKER_01]: He's living his parents' dreams. 52:30.938 --> 52:31.899 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes exactly. 52:32.539 --> 52:37.182 [SPEAKER_03]: So this kid is doing chemistry experiments and he's like pretty smart. 52:37.402 --> 52:39.023 [SPEAKER_03]: There's he definitely watches YouTube. 52:39.063 --> 52:43.686 [SPEAKER_03]: I feel like a hundred percent he watches, you know, at least Nigel's stuff. 52:44.327 --> 52:52.552 [SPEAKER_03]: He or the family, the renting house and apparently a repairman was there and he saw the set up in the garage. 52:53.047 --> 52:59.812 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like some bottles of chemicals, maybe like a few him hood, probably asks, like, unwashed, flasks, bottles full of unlappled chemicals. 53:00.213 --> 53:05.677 [SPEAKER_03]: I can only imagine immediately like full-breaking bad mode inside of this repair man's head, right? 53:05.697 --> 53:06.658 [SPEAKER_03]: He's a simple man. 53:06.698 --> 53:08.919 [SPEAKER_03]: Not he, he comes to watch me. 53:08.959 --> 53:09.380 [SPEAKER_02]: Baker. 53:09.780 --> 53:13.603 [SPEAKER_03]: He knows that there's only two things chemistry want to use for it. 53:13.643 --> 53:13.883 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 53:14.103 --> 53:15.264 [SPEAKER_03]: It's drugs and bombs. 53:16.225 --> 53:18.327 [SPEAKER_03]: And so he reports, he like reports it. 53:18.927 --> 53:21.870 [SPEAKER_03]: And it turns into this whole fucking shit show. 53:22.510 --> 53:39.414 [SPEAKER_03]: They bring in the, like, hazmat, the, like, nuclear biological chemical contamination squad, like this, this whole section of law enforcement has nothing to do and they just got their first, like, code red, they're like, they're code three, whatever they call it. 53:52.592 --> 54:12.887 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, yeah, and then and then of course the like news outlets start reporting on this right because it's such a good story It's like basically this little just fucking brown kid doing terrorism and southern California You remember the last time this happened it was not a white kid then either it was the fucking bomb clock kid 54:14.548 --> 54:17.631 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, yeah, I forgot about that. 54:18.832 --> 54:24.236 [SPEAKER_03]: Like I honestly, if you're not white and you're doing science and engineering, just fucking give up. 54:24.637 --> 54:27.479 [SPEAKER_03]: Because the government finds out they're going to come in over the roof. 54:27.499 --> 54:28.460 [SPEAKER_03]: Fuck your shit. 54:28.520 --> 54:30.121 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, it happened to me. 54:30.321 --> 54:33.004 [SPEAKER_01]: It happened to Styropeiro and it was both like a courteous. 54:33.144 --> 54:36.887 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know, we just noticed an unusual purchase or just come in here to check it out. 54:36.907 --> 54:38.308 [SPEAKER_01]: We're from your local FBI office. 54:38.468 --> 54:41.711 [SPEAKER_03]: Or helicopter footage over this kid's house for fuck. 54:42.231 --> 54:44.372 [SPEAKER_01]: Here's our card, if you ever need to reach out. 54:44.512 --> 54:49.913 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, like, and he was not doing anything worse than any of the stupid shit we've done. 54:49.973 --> 54:53.234 [SPEAKER_03]: And it's a full blown fucking bullshit. 54:53.254 --> 55:05.478 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I got to tell you, I've been worried about something like this happening though, because like I've had maintenance people, workers come to my house in Florida, and it's like probably doesn't look as professional as this kid, but I have to say like, I know this looks bad, but I have a YouTube channel. 55:05.498 --> 55:06.638 [SPEAKER_01]: This is my YouTube channel. 55:07.178 --> 55:09.081 [SPEAKER_01]: I like, just to make sure that this never happened. 55:09.101 --> 55:09.641 [SPEAKER_03]: I can call it, please. 55:09.682 --> 55:13.427 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, I just, I can't imagine that, like, need jerk reaction. 55:14.301 --> 55:15.362 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, I don't know. 55:15.442 --> 55:26.071 [SPEAKER_03]: It just makes me like everyone is so fucking stupid and they don't know anything works like you see a flash in a garage and the first thing you think is nefarious action. 55:26.131 --> 55:37.161 [SPEAKER_03]: It's a 17 year old kid like instead of just, you know, an interview asking him some questions, yeah, it's just the worth conclusion like the absolute worth conclusion. 55:39.026 --> 55:51.731 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, yeah, because I mean, what I was going to say is like, it's one of those situations that are easily resolved with either the repair man, if he sees it, I guess maybe he didn't know if it was necessarily the kid. 55:51.771 --> 55:53.812 [SPEAKER_02]: So whatever, let's say he doesn't say anything. 55:54.933 --> 56:03.178 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, if he does report it and yeah, like you said, I please someone comes buying to go say we got a report of this is this true. 56:03.778 --> 56:11.902 [SPEAKER_02]: And then if the guy lies, well, it's like, okay, well, and something's weird's going on, but probably the kid would go, yeah, I'm working on these projects and he's like, do you mind if I look? 56:12.322 --> 56:13.823 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, I'd love to show you. 56:13.843 --> 56:17.185 [SPEAKER_02]: I have a YouTube channel and they would just see it go, oh, it's fine. 56:17.625 --> 56:18.886 [SPEAKER_02]: So it's like one guy 56:20.827 --> 56:26.669 [SPEAKER_02]: And then be like, ah, that's it versus yeah, an entire there's a helicopter. 56:27.230 --> 56:38.394 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like all like that is just such, and then to the day it's like this poor guys just trying to do some science and he's just yeah, the whole family's life is messed up. 56:38.414 --> 56:40.375 [SPEAKER_03]: He's supposed to do you to live with what you think he's doing. 56:41.855 --> 56:43.977 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, yeah, it's a California gate cutting down. 56:44.037 --> 56:45.378 [SPEAKER_03]: It's a fighting plane site. 56:45.418 --> 56:52.483 [SPEAKER_03]: Third of college of 14, which honestly is a red flag, because that's pretty much how every terrorist gets their style. 56:52.524 --> 56:55.386 [SPEAKER_03]: Studying biological sciences, credit elaborates garage. 56:55.426 --> 56:59.209 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, this is like every fucking thing any of us have ever done. 57:00.748 --> 57:05.150 [SPEAKER_01]: And then in the news story, they have like this, this chemist that works at a university come on. 57:05.751 --> 57:06.091 [SPEAKER_01]: And yes. 57:06.351 --> 57:09.433 [SPEAKER_01]: And they just like, you know, like, also dog piles on this kid. 57:09.453 --> 57:20.819 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, this is a college professor fucking throwing an ambitious smart, like, young man with a future in STEM, just fucking eating this poor little fucker under the buy. 57:20.859 --> 57:22.540 [SPEAKER_01]: No, it's like, yeah, you shouldn't do chemistry at home. 57:22.560 --> 57:25.421 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's dangerous, like this, you should leave it to their professionals. 57:25.441 --> 57:26.362 [SPEAKER_03]: It's like flammable. 57:26.402 --> 57:28.563 [SPEAKER_03]: It could be like a hazard to people around it. 57:28.603 --> 57:28.883 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 57:28.963 --> 57:32.725 [SPEAKER_03]: You know what sparking hazard is eating McDonald's. 57:32.765 --> 57:34.567 [SPEAKER_03]: Sorry, products from McDonald's. 57:34.707 --> 57:36.408 [SPEAKER_03]: Don't eat McDonald's as a whole. 57:38.163 --> 57:45.528 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so the incident began last Monday, which I'm assuming is like beginning of March, maintenance worker responded to a leak inside the family home. 57:45.568 --> 57:47.029 [SPEAKER_03]: It was unrelated to the garage. 57:47.069 --> 57:49.170 [SPEAKER_03]: However, his lab caught the worker's attention. 57:49.190 --> 57:52.112 [SPEAKER_03]: The worker notified the landlord who called the authority. 57:52.132 --> 57:54.214 [SPEAKER_03]: So the worker didn't ask, like, oh, what's this? 57:54.274 --> 57:56.755 [SPEAKER_03]: And it's like, oh, it's my student called student stories. 57:56.815 --> 58:01.178 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's just immediately, hey, they're making thinking to the landlord, 58:05.871 --> 58:13.922 [SPEAKER_03]: And the California National Guard, yeah, which had a weapons of mass destruction were brought in the 9th Civil Support Team. 58:14.903 --> 58:18.468 [SPEAKER_03]: Brits and his family stayed in a hotel for a week, so nobody is arrested. 58:19.990 --> 58:22.291 [SPEAKER_01]: They like, the whole family goes into a fucking hotel. 58:22.391 --> 58:25.031 [SPEAKER_01]: A week, what could they possibly be doing that it takes a week? 58:25.211 --> 58:25.871 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, right. 58:25.891 --> 58:27.672 [SPEAKER_03]: The crew's wearing hazmat suits go in. 58:27.692 --> 58:29.192 [SPEAKER_03]: So they like, fucking confiscated is fun. 58:29.212 --> 58:30.853 [SPEAKER_03]: They confiscate pride, everything. 58:31.613 --> 58:36.734 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, and I think if there's some pictures of it and none of it, none of it is interesting. 58:37.034 --> 58:44.436 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, it's all just like, you know, what is a 17-year-old kid whose family is renting a house buying, he's got Viver, Jim, dude. 58:44.556 --> 58:45.776 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, how could he just quit him in his Viver? 58:45.836 --> 58:47.496 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, it's not expensive. 58:50.497 --> 58:54.678 [SPEAKER_01]: I remember hit I looked at his channel and he made and hydrists hydrogen fluoride gas. 58:54.918 --> 58:55.338 [SPEAKER_03]: Is that Ben? 58:56.799 --> 59:03.141 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's pretty bad, but like in what I like is it like worst in fucking spilling gasoline on your neighbor? 59:03.361 --> 59:17.405 [SPEAKER_01]: No, it's really like he didn't make enough of it to actually be dangerous and that's what the chemistry professor should have realized on the show Like on the news, but he didn't like Gloose They turn 59:20.481 --> 59:21.182 [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I don't even know. 59:21.362 --> 59:23.803 [SPEAKER_01]: Cyclot, Cetate, Tyrion. 59:24.544 --> 59:25.644 [SPEAKER_01]: But he'd been working with that. 59:25.804 --> 59:27.165 [SPEAKER_03]: Epsom salt and acetone. 59:27.806 --> 59:27.966 [UNKNOWN]: Hmm. 59:28.846 --> 59:29.446 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh no, Epsom. 59:29.507 --> 59:30.407 [SPEAKER_00]: Acetone, you say. 59:30.987 --> 59:31.688 [SPEAKER_00]: Acetone. 59:32.088 --> 59:32.608 [SPEAKER_00]: Did you know that? 59:32.808 --> 59:37.051 [SPEAKER_03]: Acetone, if you pour it on somebody and light and hold a lighter next thing, they'll burn to death. 59:37.851 --> 59:38.692 [SPEAKER_03]: Really dangerous. 59:40.255 --> 59:43.816 [SPEAKER_03]: Um, it's like this whole thing is like this to me is America right now. 59:43.876 --> 59:49.438 [SPEAKER_03]: It's like the entire like boomer and infrastructure just comes in on a kid with a future and just fucking shits all over it. 59:49.518 --> 59:49.839 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 59:50.059 --> 59:56.601 [SPEAKER_03]: He's like I'm really interested in a field of chemistry known as non-planar systems chemistry, which is like sure that sounds like bullshit to me. 59:56.661 --> 59:57.121 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 59:57.201 --> 01:00:02.023 [SPEAKER_03]: He's smarter than me, but I would be saying the same thing to in a news interview to make myself sounds super smart. 01:00:02.043 --> 01:00:07.585 [SPEAKER_00]: And then you have the government coming in being like, Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 01:00:08.672 --> 01:00:11.534 [SPEAKER_01]: Like yeah, who these people never went to college. 01:00:11.714 --> 01:00:13.436 [SPEAKER_03]: Nope, probably didn't even graduate. 01:00:13.456 --> 01:00:19.540 [SPEAKER_01]: They're like 20 year old dudes in the national guard coming to like yeah, like just fucking yeah. 01:00:19.641 --> 01:00:20.902 [SPEAKER_03]: Womp this family. 01:00:20.922 --> 01:00:25.065 [SPEAKER_03]: I want to find the professor anyway because that really is like the thing that made me the most angry. 01:00:25.565 --> 01:00:30.649 [SPEAKER_03]: That was like some mega fuck you like if you fucking find this fucking person. 01:00:30.669 --> 01:00:36.574 [SPEAKER_01]: Those are the comments that drive me wild on YouTube like every time I get something but you know what I do this professionally and you shouldn't be doing this. 01:00:36.594 --> 01:00:38.035 [SPEAKER_01]: You gotta leave it to the professionals. 01:00:38.275 --> 01:00:40.236 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, how do you become professional? 01:00:40.256 --> 01:00:42.218 [SPEAKER_03]: I know you're gatekeeping some little kid trying to like. 01:00:42.238 --> 01:00:44.500 [SPEAKER_03]: Have you ever seen how the helicopter was made? 01:00:44.520 --> 01:00:45.400 [SPEAKER_03]: You dumb fuck. 01:00:45.420 --> 01:00:46.922 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 01:00:47.342 --> 01:00:50.264 [SPEAKER_03]: Like do you want to be like we're on? 01:00:50.304 --> 01:00:50.845 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you know what? 01:00:50.885 --> 01:00:52.986 [SPEAKER_03]: I have so many opinions about all this. 01:00:53.026 --> 01:00:53.286 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 01:00:56.172 --> 01:01:13.255 [SPEAKER_03]: Let's see if I can find this, this is like my phone is a good thing John said about one hour mark by saying click on I want to find what the professor said Anyways, if anybody knows All all How do you say is now going to camera 01:01:14.739 --> 01:01:15.880 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm Malvin. 01:01:15.900 --> 01:01:20.203 [SPEAKER_03]: If anybody knows a Malvin, you can tell him to reach out. 01:01:20.223 --> 01:01:30.690 [SPEAKER_03]: I would love to have him on the safety third podcast so you can tell us about his experiments and experience with the fucking US government to all of its glory. 01:01:30.710 --> 01:01:35.113 [SPEAKER_01]: He's got to be on like styropyros discord or explosion and fires discord. 01:01:35.233 --> 01:01:36.134 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, 100%. 01:01:38.042 --> 01:01:39.803 [SPEAKER_03]: I want to find this college professor. 01:01:39.904 --> 01:01:46.169 [SPEAKER_01]: I bet if you like copy the link from his YouTube, one of his YouTube videos and search for it on one of those servers, you'll find them. 01:01:47.590 --> 01:01:49.191 [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe he's too smart for discord though. 01:01:49.271 --> 01:01:50.772 [SPEAKER_01]: I think you might get us anytime. 01:01:50.992 --> 01:01:51.313 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 01:01:52.634 --> 01:01:54.195 [SPEAKER_03]: We're at it. 01:01:54.976 --> 01:01:56.057 [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe yes, maybe kind of. 01:01:57.017 --> 01:02:00.760 [SPEAKER_03]: Never mind police property landlord, chemical nerve agents. 01:02:01.201 --> 01:02:01.601 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah. 01:02:02.001 --> 01:02:04.263 [SPEAKER_03]: Every I investigated is we're called to the scene after it was determined. 01:02:04.283 --> 01:02:07.726 [SPEAKER_03]: The materials were possible indications of chemical nerve agents. 01:02:14.067 --> 01:02:15.507 [SPEAKER_03]: You know what, they're so worried about that. 01:02:16.087 --> 01:02:18.908 [SPEAKER_01]: And then like, how many schools get shot up? 01:02:18.928 --> 01:02:20.228 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if I'm fucking cares. 01:02:22.729 --> 01:02:24.409 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they took itself on. 01:02:24.989 --> 01:02:26.470 [SPEAKER_03]: Where is the professor? 01:02:26.490 --> 01:02:29.490 [SPEAKER_03]: I really want the professor's quote. 01:02:29.510 --> 01:02:33.231 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, I would like the professor's name too, so I can tell them to go fuck themselves. 01:02:34.611 --> 01:02:36.992 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah, here we go. 01:02:37.952 --> 01:02:47.918 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, while he says that anyone can purchase the chemicals like acetone online and that he was safe, you can actually that's hilarious because that's part of the one thing you can't buy online and you have to go to Home Depot for. 01:02:48.498 --> 01:03:03.566 [SPEAKER_03]: And that he was safe throughout the process, accounts your professor professor from California State University Long Beach says that his YouTube videos also show his use of ISO Propel Magnusium chloride and other compounds in an unsafe and inappropriate 01:03:04.907 --> 01:03:16.083 [SPEAKER_03]: Those experiments needed to be done in a proper lab facility that professor Elaine Bernal Fuck you professor Elaine Bernal you fucking suck shut the fuck up 01:03:17.902 --> 01:03:18.522 [SPEAKER_03]: Um, okay. 01:03:18.542 --> 01:03:40.612 [SPEAKER_02]: The thing that really bothers me in general is like the number of times I've heard people say I've literally people say you can't do chemistry outside of like exactly that like a properly sanctioned lab and it's funny because today I was just telling Zach something and I was like the way you know that somebody is knowledgeable in what they do. 01:03:41.492 --> 01:03:42.673 [SPEAKER_02]: I was like if you if you 01:03:43.853 --> 01:03:45.894 [SPEAKER_02]: look at how they approach safety. 01:03:46.334 --> 01:03:58.601 [SPEAKER_02]: I was like, if they're too safe or kind of like not safe enough, you can infer a lot by how much they actually know practically about, you know, the actual dangers of what they're doing. 01:03:59.001 --> 01:04:02.743 [SPEAKER_02]: And it's like, if you think doing a little, I don't even know what that reaction is, but like, 01:04:03.663 --> 01:04:07.305 [SPEAKER_02]: some people would be like, oh, doing a distillation, you have to do that in a lab. 01:04:07.565 --> 01:04:09.666 [SPEAKER_02]: You don't actually know the dangers of a distillation then. 01:04:10.006 --> 01:04:11.787 [SPEAKER_02]: They just make you blank and statements. 01:04:12.207 --> 01:04:13.307 [SPEAKER_02]: It means you're fearful. 01:04:13.387 --> 01:04:16.029 [SPEAKER_02]: You don't really know the actual dangers. 01:04:16.409 --> 01:04:22.351 [SPEAKER_02]: Whereas, yeah, on the flip side, if you see a guy throwing acid around, he has no gloves or goggles on, you're like, okay, you got problems, too. 01:04:22.851 --> 01:04:24.932 [SPEAKER_02]: But it's like the number of people in academia. 01:04:26.493 --> 01:04:27.935 [SPEAKER_02]: kind of, I don't know. 01:04:27.955 --> 01:04:31.918 [SPEAKER_03]: It's like they have a list of, like, everything needs to happen in if you put it. 01:04:31.978 --> 01:04:39.846 [SPEAKER_03]: And if you can't explain why it needs to happen in the human, then you actually are the least safe because you have no fucking idea what's going on. 01:04:40.106 --> 01:04:41.227 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know, like a bell curve. 01:04:41.247 --> 01:04:41.348 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 01:04:41.388 --> 01:04:44.431 [SPEAKER_01]: Like on both sides, you have, it's okay. 01:04:44.451 --> 01:04:47.534 [SPEAKER_03]: And in the center, you have, this is dangerous. 01:04:48.114 --> 01:04:55.896 [SPEAKER_03]: like she like there is no explanation from this professor as to why it is unsafe of a setting. 01:04:56.657 --> 01:04:58.717 [SPEAKER_03]: It just says unsafe and inappropriate. 01:04:58.737 --> 01:05:00.658 [SPEAKER_03]: What the fuck does inappropriate setting mean? 01:05:00.958 --> 01:05:01.338 [SPEAKER_03]: Why? 01:05:01.958 --> 01:05:03.319 [SPEAKER_03]: You can't just fucking say that. 01:05:03.399 --> 01:05:05.360 [SPEAKER_03]: That's not a pain in why opinion. 01:05:05.760 --> 01:05:08.561 [SPEAKER_03]: Those experiments needed to be done in a proper lab facility. 01:05:08.721 --> 01:05:10.061 [SPEAKER_03]: What the fuck does that mean? 01:05:10.641 --> 01:05:11.882 [SPEAKER_03]: Says professor Elaine Bernal. 01:05:14.279 --> 01:05:16.260 [SPEAKER_03]: She says the acetone is highly flammable. 01:05:16.680 --> 01:05:21.344 [SPEAKER_03]: What you put that on your nails to take your nail polish on. 01:05:21.364 --> 01:05:22.925 [SPEAKER_02]: I hear this blue person. 01:05:22.945 --> 01:05:24.987 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like Kevin, that's exactly that. 01:05:25.027 --> 01:05:27.228 [SPEAKER_02]: If the person goes, he's working with acetone. 01:05:27.268 --> 01:05:28.169 [SPEAKER_02]: That's flammable. 01:05:28.229 --> 01:05:28.829 [SPEAKER_02]: You fuck him. 01:05:28.889 --> 01:05:29.410 [SPEAKER_02]: You fuck him. 01:05:29.430 --> 01:05:29.870 [SPEAKER_02]: You fuck him. 01:05:29.890 --> 01:05:30.411 [SPEAKER_02]: You fuck him. 01:05:30.471 --> 01:05:31.191 [SPEAKER_02]: You fuck him. 01:05:31.251 --> 01:05:32.372 [SPEAKER_03]: You fuck him. 01:05:35.591 --> 01:05:37.291 [SPEAKER_01]: Are you fucking kidding me? 01:05:37.331 --> 01:05:40.452 [SPEAKER_01]: Is alcohol, your hand sanitizers flammable? 01:05:40.572 --> 01:05:41.772 [SPEAKER_02]: Your hair is flammable. 01:05:41.792 --> 01:05:43.293 [SPEAKER_01]: You're trying to throw this kid under the bus. 01:05:43.393 --> 01:05:44.753 [SPEAKER_01]: Shut the fuck up! 01:05:45.893 --> 01:05:46.654 [SPEAKER_01]: Fuck you! 01:05:46.694 --> 01:05:47.774 [SPEAKER_01]: Leave him alone! 01:05:47.794 --> 01:05:50.275 [SPEAKER_01]: You're getting to both of the janitor. 01:05:50.295 --> 01:05:51.455 [SPEAKER_01]: You fucking awful! 01:05:52.035 --> 01:05:52.715 [SPEAKER_03]: Awful! 01:05:54.175 --> 01:05:59.157 [SPEAKER_03]: He says that the acetone is highly flammable and that the compound spritz he used would require proper storage. 01:05:59.557 --> 01:06:00.177 [SPEAKER_03]: Fuck you! 01:06:01.190 --> 01:06:05.354 [SPEAKER_03]: Home Depot keeps their acetone on a fucking metal shelf. 01:06:05.855 --> 01:06:06.696 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, 10 feet up. 01:06:06.716 --> 01:06:07.717 [SPEAKER_02]: 10 feet in the air. 01:06:08.017 --> 01:06:09.519 [SPEAKER_03]: What the fuck are you talking about? 01:06:09.539 --> 01:06:11.481 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, well, well, well, well, well, I'll tell you this. 01:06:11.641 --> 01:06:13.142 [SPEAKER_02]: And everyone knows this, it's true. 01:06:13.483 --> 01:06:18.107 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, you know, like, like you said, home Depot and all these stores, they sell things like, you know, 01:06:18.868 --> 01:06:19.509 [SPEAKER_02]: fuels. 01:06:19.869 --> 01:06:21.170 [SPEAKER_02]: They sell acetone. 01:06:21.410 --> 01:06:22.471 [SPEAKER_02]: They sell gasoline. 01:06:22.491 --> 01:06:24.072 [SPEAKER_02]: You can get a Jerry can of gasoline. 01:06:24.732 --> 01:06:36.580 [SPEAKER_02]: You and me both know that 100% of everybody stores it in a flammable cabinet in their homes under lock-in fee marked with a fire extinguisher ready. 01:06:36.600 --> 01:06:37.321 [SPEAKER_03]: Uh-huh. 01:06:38.302 --> 01:06:53.988 [SPEAKER_03]: and the proper fire safety protocol set up and all around it, and even in California, we have our special non-leak nozzles that consistently leak vapor in a regular nozzle. 01:06:55.109 --> 01:07:01.431 [SPEAKER_02]: But it's just insane to me when, yeah, when people are like, the criticism would be, it's not stored in a proper fashion. 01:07:01.451 --> 01:07:05.413 [SPEAKER_02]: You're like, tell that to every single person who buys acetone, 01:07:06.333 --> 01:07:24.472 [SPEAKER_02]: across the board like eyes are propin all and rubbing alcohol is just used in medicine cabinets like just for something people's put it away is it it's just kind of like nobody stores it properly um which you could argue is a problem and probably does cost fires in some places 01:07:25.072 --> 01:07:39.264 [SPEAKER_02]: But to go after one guy to be like, that's the problem literally feels like one of those things where it's kind of like the cop who stops that's like everybody's speeding, but he's like, hey, you You're the guy who's going to get the ticket. 01:07:39.284 --> 01:07:40.705 [SPEAKER_02]: He's like, but what about everyone else? 01:07:40.725 --> 01:07:44.989 [SPEAKER_02]: He's like, well, you just happen to be the guy stopped and now now I'm going to make an example. 01:07:45.069 --> 01:07:47.691 [SPEAKER_02]: It's not so bad. 01:07:47.911 --> 01:07:48.352 [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly. 01:07:48.372 --> 01:07:49.653 [SPEAKER_02]: It's a cat I really see 01:07:51.418 --> 01:08:01.943 [SPEAKER_03]: This is such academia brain like yeah, I think that's what I fucking hate about school It almost feels like she's trying to justify her position. 01:08:01.963 --> 01:08:12.068 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, she has to know expert, but like she clearly has like there's no practical experience anywhere in this quote like 01:08:13.010 --> 01:08:21.232 [SPEAKER_03]: It just does not say anything that leads me to believe that is a practical concern of this kid's work. 01:08:21.813 --> 01:08:24.153 [SPEAKER_03]: It's not like the chemicals really bad. 01:08:24.173 --> 01:08:27.894 [SPEAKER_03]: Because if the chemical was really bad, that should be the first fucking thing. 01:08:27.934 --> 01:08:28.495 [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly. 01:08:28.655 --> 01:08:32.016 [SPEAKER_03]: You should not be synthesizing stuff like that in a home lab. 01:08:32.196 --> 01:08:33.636 [SPEAKER_01]: But there's nothing like that. 01:08:34.016 --> 01:08:35.697 [SPEAKER_01]: There's no nuance to the conversation. 01:08:35.737 --> 01:08:38.838 [SPEAKER_01]: It's just like this kid's place and it's just completely. 01:08:40.038 --> 01:08:49.849 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, I don't know, no tact to just throw this fucking kid under a bus this hard makes me so mad for the fucking criticisms that follow. 01:08:50.570 --> 01:08:56.736 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, she's also expressed concern over how the chemicals were disposed of and the escape of gases during the experiment. 01:08:57.657 --> 01:09:09.286 [SPEAKER_03]: There's a big environmental and safety concern that I think is worth there is a big environmental and safety concern that I think was worth of investigation. 01:09:09.846 --> 01:09:11.568 [SPEAKER_03]: I think that was worth of investigation. 01:09:12.328 --> 01:09:13.989 [SPEAKER_03]: I get that the FBI was there. 01:09:14.029 --> 01:09:14.710 [SPEAKER_03]: How's my was there? 01:09:14.770 --> 01:09:19.894 [SPEAKER_03]: I think it is also important to think of it as the safety of the local community since its headquarters. 01:09:21.058 --> 01:09:23.482 [SPEAKER_03]: The chemicals that he mentioned are very flammable. 01:09:23.522 --> 01:09:30.153 [SPEAKER_03]: My concern is whatever gases that are emitted that folks with respiratory issues, sensitive respiratory issues can be affected. 01:09:30.434 --> 01:09:30.874 [SPEAKER_01]: What? 01:09:30.934 --> 01:09:31.115 [SPEAKER_01]: Like. 01:09:32.392 --> 01:09:33.792 [SPEAKER_01]: What the fuck? 01:09:34.472 --> 01:09:40.074 [SPEAKER_01]: This could couldn't make enough of anything to affect the neighbor next door, you know? 01:09:40.114 --> 01:09:45.435 [SPEAKER_03]: This is something like maybe up like a smell's bad, but it certainly not enough, like actually poison or hurt somebody. 01:09:45.615 --> 01:09:54.676 [SPEAKER_03]: I wouldn't be surprised if he had like some mildly radioactive material like a sample of something and she was like, oh well, you know, radioactive material can be used to make nuclear bombs. 01:09:55.196 --> 01:09:57.797 [SPEAKER_03]: And I don't think that that's safe for his community. 01:09:58.017 --> 01:10:03.761 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, a radiation that Uranium has a half life of billions of years, so it'll be in the neighborhood forever. 01:10:04.281 --> 01:10:07.323 [SPEAKER_01]: So he really, you know, he wasn't disposing of anything properly. 01:10:08.164 --> 01:10:12.207 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like it's like he permanently messed up the ecosystem for generations. 01:10:12.267 --> 01:10:14.568 [SPEAKER_03]: And then they follow up with the pandemic, which is glorious. 01:10:14.948 --> 01:10:19.491 [SPEAKER_03]: Fritz says his experiments are focused on new therapeutics for cancer and Alzheimer's. 01:10:20.192 --> 01:10:21.573 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, what's this professor's name again? 01:10:22.133 --> 01:10:24.415 [SPEAKER_03]: Professor Elaine Bernal Bacchio. 01:10:25.602 --> 01:10:31.844 [SPEAKER_03]: You should seriously consider your role as an educator, educating the future of America. 01:10:34.505 --> 01:10:37.245 [SPEAKER_03]: Re-evaluate every decision you've ever made. 01:10:37.785 --> 01:10:38.166 [SPEAKER_03]: Ha ha ha. 01:10:38.846 --> 01:10:45.048 [SPEAKER_03]: From my little knowledge I have of you and your actions in this article, you fucking suck. 01:10:46.768 --> 01:10:51.289 [SPEAKER_03]: And you are actively deterring children who will make the future of this country better. 01:10:51.870 --> 01:10:53.430 [SPEAKER_03]: Be better than that. 01:10:54.312 --> 01:10:55.673 [SPEAKER_03]: Professor Elaine Bernal. 01:10:55.933 --> 01:11:00.536 [SPEAKER_01]: It would have been so easy, so easy to just think, say that the police were overreacting. 01:11:00.556 --> 01:11:02.377 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, that the National Guard was overreacting. 01:11:02.677 --> 01:11:10.082 [SPEAKER_01]: Criticize the maintenance man who talked to the landlord saying, like, you need more, we need more education in this country. 01:11:10.282 --> 01:11:13.044 [SPEAKER_01]: So this guy could recognize what's going on and it's not a drug lab. 01:11:13.084 --> 01:11:13.844 [SPEAKER_01]: Be tactful. 01:11:13.964 --> 01:11:14.184 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 01:11:14.625 --> 01:11:18.027 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm sure it looks dangerous, but he took some safety precautions. 01:11:18.327 --> 01:11:20.088 [SPEAKER_03]: There were things he could do better. 01:11:21.069 --> 01:11:22.910 [SPEAKER_03]: And there are chemicals he shouldn't make at home. 01:11:24.080 --> 01:11:25.662 [SPEAKER_03]: Not fuck this kid! 01:11:26.203 --> 01:11:29.767 [SPEAKER_03]: He's going to achieve more interested things in his life than you ever will. 01:11:30.108 --> 01:11:31.349 [SPEAKER_03]: You are a fucking loser. 01:11:32.931 --> 01:11:33.953 [SPEAKER_03]: Congratulations. 01:11:35.214 --> 01:11:37.177 [SPEAKER_03]: That action makes me so fucking mad. 01:11:40.408 --> 01:11:52.152 [SPEAKER_03]: All right, if you guys want to listen to the extra pocket, we can head on over to Patreon support us and our, oh yeah, we're going to try the Chinese orio John said they're not a fucking awful. 01:11:52.332 --> 01:11:52.872 [SPEAKER_03]: That's what he said. 01:11:53.072 --> 01:11:57.814 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, we're just going to disagree. 01:11:57.954 --> 01:11:59.295 [SPEAKER_01]: It's half gray path peach. 01:11:59.995 --> 01:12:00.695 [SPEAKER_03]: What a combo. 01:12:01.315 --> 01:12:04.296 [SPEAKER_03]: All right, let's try things everybody supports us on Patreon. 01:12:04.336 --> 01:12:05.697 [SPEAKER_03]: We'll see you over there right now. 01:12:06.784 --> 01:12:07.988 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, these are, there's a lot of them here. 01:12:08.009 --> 01:12:08.651 [SPEAKER_01]: This is good. 01:12:08.671 --> 01:12:09.775 [SPEAKER_01]: Ooh, I'm excited. 01:12:10.136 --> 01:12:10.578 [SPEAKER_01]: Macha? 01:12:11.020 --> 01:12:11.240 [SPEAKER_01]: No. 01:12:11.943 --> 01:12:12.666 [SPEAKER_01]: Pistachio? 01:12:12.686 --> 01:12:14.994 [SPEAKER_01]: Ooh.