WEBVTT 00:00.912 --> 00:01.513 [SPEAKER_01]: You're Hawaiian? 00:02.974 --> 00:03.354 [SPEAKER_01]: It's true. 00:03.834 --> 00:04.435 [SPEAKER_00]: I am Hawaii. 00:04.715 --> 00:06.917 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, my everything got it. 00:07.157 --> 00:07.938 [SPEAKER_00]: So far so good. 00:08.058 --> 00:08.899 [SPEAKER_00]: So here's the Tia. 00:08.999 --> 00:09.699 [SPEAKER_00]: Here's the Tia. 00:09.880 --> 00:11.261 [SPEAKER_00]: I am recording this in Hawaii. 00:11.381 --> 00:11.781 [SPEAKER_00]: Who am I? 00:11.941 --> 00:12.862 [SPEAKER_00]: Quinn Posner? 00:13.242 --> 00:14.343 [SPEAKER_00]: No. 00:14.483 --> 00:15.644 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm in Honolulu. 00:16.845 --> 00:21.009 [SPEAKER_00]: And I, Quinn and I were trying to find a time to record that made sense. 00:21.169 --> 00:25.653 [SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, let's do six a.m. my time, because yesterday, I woke up at four o'clock in the morning. 00:25.913 --> 00:26.413 [SPEAKER_00]: Sure. 00:26.594 --> 00:27.134 [SPEAKER_00]: This is great. 00:28.335 --> 00:30.676 [SPEAKER_00]: Yesterday was, listen, did I get tired? 00:30.776 --> 00:36.920 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the good news is, I slept till 6 a.m. Are you fighting till just now? 00:37.360 --> 00:42.783 [SPEAKER_00]: I truly woke up at 3.30 and I was like, carry girl, you got to sleep more. 00:42.803 --> 00:46.065 [SPEAKER_00]: Because you know, I mean, I'm putting together a show. 00:46.245 --> 00:47.785 [SPEAKER_00]: It's a pretty large undertaking. 00:48.946 --> 01:07.351 [SPEAKER_00]: and so it's a lot and so I fortunately I was able to go back to sleep and I truly woke up right at six and I was like well that's good news it means I got a solid eight hours and the only bad news is I am a little late for Quinn so I'm sorry about that. 01:07.691 --> 01:09.211 [SPEAKER_01]: A little late please. 01:09.671 --> 01:10.491 [SPEAKER_01]: You're right on time. 01:10.511 --> 01:11.252 [SPEAKER_01]: You're right on cue. 01:11.312 --> 01:12.132 [SPEAKER_01]: Right on schedule. 01:12.152 --> 01:12.492 [SPEAKER_01]: Toots. 01:19.758 --> 01:22.800 [UNKNOWN]: Don't you? 01:23.900 --> 01:33.065 [UNKNOWN]: I'm creepy. 01:34.486 --> 01:36.807 [SPEAKER_00]: Quinn, what is this beautiful color you're wearing? 01:38.196 --> 01:39.036 [SPEAKER_00]: this lime green. 01:39.957 --> 01:40.937 [SPEAKER_00]: It looks great on you. 01:40.997 --> 01:41.798 [SPEAKER_00]: Is that your color? 01:41.818 --> 01:43.679 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, thank you. 01:44.719 --> 01:45.340 [SPEAKER_00]: It looks really good. 01:45.380 --> 01:48.021 [SPEAKER_01]: How is camping this weekend? 01:48.641 --> 01:49.482 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, really fun. 01:49.622 --> 01:50.662 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it was a blast. 01:50.762 --> 01:51.803 [SPEAKER_01]: We, uh, 01:53.241 --> 02:01.247 [SPEAKER_01]: This camping site was really cute, little pond, and it had as the name might suggest, well, it would think it could be a little pond. 02:01.267 --> 02:03.569 [SPEAKER_01]: It was quite a little late, even. 02:03.589 --> 02:07.091 [SPEAKER_01]: And you could get a boat and go out on the lake. 02:07.151 --> 02:11.294 [SPEAKER_01]: You could do a hike through the mountains, which was very beautiful, which we did. 02:11.314 --> 02:14.897 [SPEAKER_01]: And we got there Friday night and 02:15.662 --> 02:32.482 [SPEAKER_01]: had a big gathering to dinner and then the next day we spent all day goofing around at the lake and doing a big hike and all these kinds of things, then the next day at rain and it rained that evening and then all through till about 7 p.m. the next night and that was Sunday. 02:33.503 --> 02:44.590 [SPEAKER_01]: Do you guys have like a covering, you know, they had a big area by the beach that had a million picnic tables covered and we set up a big brunch station there. 02:44.610 --> 02:54.336 [SPEAKER_01]: It was 11 families in the end and so we all just made food under there and hung out and the kids didn't care that it was raining because it wasn't crazy raining. 02:54.376 --> 02:57.338 [SPEAKER_01]: It was just a consistent drizzle. 02:58.918 --> 03:02.660 [SPEAKER_00]: So they was a little moist, but somebody was like comfortable. 03:02.700 --> 03:08.404 [SPEAKER_01]: Like you would go out and watch your kid play and like stand in the rain for 20, 30 minutes, it'd not be bothered. 03:08.964 --> 03:12.986 [SPEAKER_01]: It was more just that eventually you'd get chilly. 03:13.647 --> 03:18.149 [SPEAKER_01]: And so I got really cold after the morning of brunch and watching the kids play. 03:18.389 --> 03:24.433 [SPEAKER_01]: And I went and got in the car and turned it on and turned on the heat, like this heated seats. 03:26.083 --> 03:37.651 [SPEAKER_01]: And I just swarmed up like it was a spa and I finished my book and then by the time I was done, everybody was like, we're going to a brewery and we went to a brewery for no kidding 230 to 634 hours. 03:40.333 --> 03:41.574 [SPEAKER_00]: That's fun. 03:41.594 --> 03:42.695 [SPEAKER_00]: It was great. 03:42.855 --> 03:46.397 [SPEAKER_01]: And then we came back and it was, you know, just time to campfire again in chill. 03:46.557 --> 03:48.358 [SPEAKER_01]: And then it was time to go the next day. 03:48.418 --> 03:51.160 [SPEAKER_01]: We left early on Monday morning, but we spent three nights in the woods. 03:51.260 --> 03:52.961 [SPEAKER_01]: And it was a delight. 03:53.061 --> 03:56.844 [SPEAKER_01]: I got a new tent that I really liked and a new mattress for the tent. 03:56.984 --> 04:05.549 [SPEAKER_01]: And I slept with a little griffy and he would wake up in the middle of the night and see my face was next to his and have the dopeiest, happiest smile. 04:05.709 --> 04:08.431 [SPEAKER_01]: Like he just was so thrilled to be there with me. 04:11.273 --> 04:18.219 [SPEAKER_01]: And Koai barely saw the whole weekend, like she, you know, all these kids are families, a fourth grade families. 04:18.840 --> 04:22.523 [SPEAKER_01]: So she just took off, man, and was gone all day. 04:22.703 --> 04:24.965 [SPEAKER_01]: You'd like care her voice in the distance at times. 04:26.004 --> 04:26.724 [SPEAKER_00]: That's fun. 04:27.004 --> 04:35.286 [SPEAKER_01]: Even we went on a hike and she and her friend Pearl went on the hike, they hauled us and we're just gone. 04:35.586 --> 04:42.048 [SPEAKER_01]: Like it was a marked trail but they got back to the camp before anybody, just ran this hike. 04:42.468 --> 04:43.508 [SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know. 04:43.828 --> 04:44.348 [SPEAKER_01]: It was great. 04:44.408 --> 04:46.969 [SPEAKER_01]: I've just had such a great time. 04:48.389 --> 04:50.510 [SPEAKER_00]: That's really, was did Griff have anyone his age? 04:51.772 --> 04:55.155 [SPEAKER_01]: Griff had two buddies his age two or three buddies around. 04:55.175 --> 05:05.564 [SPEAKER_01]: No, even for I would say they were like two four year olds on the trip two or three four year olds and three five year olds or six year olds. 05:05.925 --> 05:06.966 [SPEAKER_01]: There were kids around his age. 05:06.986 --> 05:11.750 [SPEAKER_01]: There was kids every age But that's the personality is very different 05:13.520 --> 05:20.903 [SPEAKER_01]: So he wanted to stand next to me and recite episodes of number blocks more than he wanted to engage with the kids. 05:21.443 --> 05:23.644 [SPEAKER_01]: But sometimes things would peak as interest. 05:23.784 --> 05:30.327 [SPEAKER_01]: One thing that was very funny is some of the older boys played a game of baseball and Griff decided, I'm going to do it. 05:30.907 --> 05:39.611 [SPEAKER_01]: So he was like, Mom, watch me play baseball and he'd go stand in the field in a pink one piece rain suit. 05:40.780 --> 05:49.906 [SPEAKER_01]: He looked like a little marshmallow peep, and he'd stand in the field, making the maddest face, because I think he believes that's what he thought what baseball is. 05:49.926 --> 06:01.154 [SPEAKER_01]: So you just stood and made a real tough guy face, and then when the boys would do something like, hit the ball, Griff would just run, any direction, or he'd run and bump into them. 06:01.854 --> 06:05.216 [SPEAKER_01]: And at one point, he would take the bat and steal it from them. 06:05.396 --> 06:07.158 [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe like Griff, you got to bring the bat back. 06:11.000 --> 06:17.124 [SPEAKER_01]: sweet as hell, they were, like, no adults are really nearby and they don't really know I'm watching. 06:18.465 --> 06:19.866 [SPEAKER_01]: And Griff is in their way. 06:20.126 --> 06:24.029 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm telling you right now they're trying to play a real game of baseball and Griff is in the way. 06:24.929 --> 06:31.434 [SPEAKER_01]: And they don't say a word about it and even on occasion will be like, all right, Griff, you up, you want to try to bat? 06:32.347 --> 06:36.429 [SPEAKER_01]: they just took care of these little kids this whole time. 06:37.010 --> 06:40.372 [SPEAKER_01]: And that makes me feel so optimistic. 06:41.132 --> 06:41.693 [SPEAKER_01]: It was amazing. 06:41.733 --> 06:49.157 [SPEAKER_01]: It feels so- I gotta tell you the crew we've got in this dual language program is so sweet. 06:49.217 --> 06:51.278 [SPEAKER_01]: They really all look out for each other. 06:51.739 --> 06:53.980 [SPEAKER_01]: They have really good vibes. 06:55.668 --> 06:58.112 [SPEAKER_00]: That's, that makes me really happy. 06:58.373 --> 06:59.555 [SPEAKER_00]: That makes me really happy. 07:00.537 --> 07:02.641 [SPEAKER_00]: I go down the parents, go down the kids. 07:03.282 --> 07:03.622 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, sure. 07:04.224 --> 07:05.546 [SPEAKER_00]: That makes me excited for Griff. 07:05.706 --> 07:06.748 [SPEAKER_00]: I love that so much. 07:06.868 --> 07:08.812 [SPEAKER_00]: It sounds like a really magical weekend. 07:11.082 --> 07:11.662 [SPEAKER_01]: It was great. 07:11.803 --> 07:13.804 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we had an amazing time. 07:13.904 --> 07:16.646 [SPEAKER_01]: We're gonna try to do it again in the spring. 07:16.846 --> 07:23.992 [SPEAKER_01]: And I just felt like glad, really cool families, really great kids, and I couldn't believe how happy. 07:24.012 --> 07:28.035 [SPEAKER_01]: No, camping is not like at the very top of my list. 07:28.175 --> 07:29.056 [SPEAKER_01]: I like nature. 07:29.116 --> 07:29.376 [SPEAKER_01]: I know. 07:29.516 --> 07:34.200 [SPEAKER_01]: And I like the part when you're in nature and you have a hot tub, and I like the part where you're in nature. 07:34.420 --> 07:37.262 [SPEAKER_01]: And you, I don't know, even take a shower. 07:38.863 --> 07:52.196 [SPEAKER_01]: That's fun too, so it was definitely rough in it, definitely a challenge to cook all these meals, which I really kind of bowed out of in the way that I packed. 07:52.816 --> 07:54.378 [SPEAKER_01]: It was really nice to use it. 07:54.578 --> 07:56.380 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was just like I was scared. 07:56.420 --> 07:58.962 [SPEAKER_00]: I think that's okay, I think that's okay, I think that's okay, I 08:00.387 --> 08:04.789 [SPEAKER_00]: I love that you had the idea to press eject and go to a brewery, that I think is incredible. 08:05.449 --> 08:12.072 [SPEAKER_01]: That was great, and Matt went on a hike by himself at the brewery, and he kept running around the brewery being linked. 08:12.093 --> 08:20.276 [SPEAKER_01]: Who wants to go on this hike with me, and it was funny because we had all been in the rain all day, and we had just gotten to this brewery that we're all just drinking and eating like pigs. 08:20.837 --> 08:27.880 [SPEAKER_01]: I ordered everything on the menu, and everybody was like, nope, no, and then he'd go to the kids and be like, any kids want to go on this hike? 08:28.500 --> 08:30.621 [SPEAKER_01]: not no one wants to go on your reign hike. 08:31.121 --> 08:33.121 [SPEAKER_01]: Everyone just wants to be lazy at the brewery. 08:33.901 --> 08:36.382 [SPEAKER_01]: But he had a great time too, as you can imagine. 08:36.522 --> 08:37.682 [SPEAKER_01]: It's sort of course he did. 08:37.923 --> 08:38.683 [SPEAKER_01]: Of course he did. 08:39.723 --> 08:43.004 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I have an apology to issue for last week's episode. 08:43.224 --> 08:44.464 [SPEAKER_01]: It was so late. 08:45.244 --> 08:46.085 [SPEAKER_01]: It was so late. 08:46.205 --> 08:47.245 [SPEAKER_01]: All right, some messages. 08:47.945 --> 08:51.987 [SPEAKER_01]: I got messages too and I just want to say, I'm sorry, people are like, are you guys okay? 08:52.047 --> 08:54.729 [SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, it was like a wellness check, right? 08:55.089 --> 08:55.929 [SPEAKER_00]: It was a wellness check. 08:56.049 --> 09:01.392 [SPEAKER_00]: Guys, what happened was is I just honestly, I thought I did it and then I didn't. 09:02.232 --> 09:03.553 [SPEAKER_00]: And that's the answer to that. 09:03.653 --> 09:05.014 [SPEAKER_00]: And I woke up late in there. 09:05.574 --> 09:16.219 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god, I thought I did it and I didn't and then I went to go do it again and then my airline Wi-Fi wouldn't work and so I like got to the hotel and then I was like, oh, I forgot to do it and then I uploaded it. 09:16.259 --> 09:18.680 [SPEAKER_00]: So it is late and I apologize. 09:19.401 --> 09:20.681 [SPEAKER_00]: Sorry to scare everyone. 09:20.701 --> 09:21.842 [SPEAKER_01]: It's okay. 09:22.458 --> 09:23.199 [SPEAKER_00]: We're okay though. 09:23.640 --> 09:38.338 [SPEAKER_00]: I got to say so I'm in Hawaii and I'm in Honolulu and yesterday we did a rehearsal by the water and I got to tell you like we sat in a restaurant for four hours and walk to the show. 09:38.919 --> 09:39.139 [SPEAKER_00]: Right. 09:39.439 --> 09:40.400 [SPEAKER_00]: And that's the move. 09:40.760 --> 09:41.601 [SPEAKER_00]: That is the move. 09:42.381 --> 09:49.745 [SPEAKER_00]: Like I, it was so funny, I was, because I'm obviously company managing and I was like, I get stressed about spending other people's money, hire me. 09:50.386 --> 10:00.352 [SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, is this okay to spend, like, I know where it's not a rehearsal, but like, I feel like we should buy, I should buy everybody the food, because that would take place of the rehearsal studio. 10:01.872 --> 10:07.055 [SPEAKER_00]: And then I love you, but I'm like, this is the right thing to do because we spend four hours here. 10:07.996 --> 10:12.598 [SPEAKER_00]: And then what was great is we were right by the Pacific Ocean and I'm so pissed, I didn't wear a swimsuit. 10:12.638 --> 10:15.139 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm so pissed, I didn't wear a swimsuit, but I wear a dress. 10:15.780 --> 10:20.682 [SPEAKER_00]: And you bet your ass my legs were deep in that ocean and it was so warm. 10:22.783 --> 10:23.904 [SPEAKER_00]: It was incredible. 10:24.724 --> 10:34.450 [SPEAKER_00]: It was so warm, it was so beautiful, the water was so blue and we were like at like a peak tourist place. 10:35.391 --> 10:46.378 [SPEAKER_00]: And then we like drove after to this little cliff park area where a bunch of surfers were and so we like walked down and we saw people so far out which I'm like is that where that comes from. 10:46.898 --> 10:50.719 [SPEAKER_00]: far out because that's so far out of the water. 10:50.919 --> 10:54.360 [SPEAKER_00]: Like I couldn't figure it out, but we open the show tomorrow. 10:55.421 --> 11:08.845 [SPEAKER_00]: I feel really grateful because we were supposed to have an educational show today at 10 a.m. and the good news is is that they were like, oh, some of our lighting is broken so quick, so we changed it to Wednesday and we're like, sure. 11:10.105 --> 11:20.229 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, and that works out well because one of my co-hosts got in last night directly from London and it took him 24 hours to get here. 11:20.769 --> 11:27.431 [SPEAKER_00]: And so the idea of him sitting down and doing and memorizing an hour long show, I'm so glad that he didn't have to do that. 11:28.332 --> 11:35.254 [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, it works out well where we're going to be rehearsing from like 10 to 7 today and it'll be great, but it doesn't 11:38.655 --> 11:39.556 [SPEAKER_00]: The air smells good. 11:39.616 --> 11:42.057 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean we are in quite I mean we're in Honolulu. 11:42.077 --> 11:44.258 [SPEAKER_00]: So it feels more of a city I don't know. 11:44.538 --> 11:45.258 [SPEAKER_01]: I can't people. 11:45.319 --> 11:45.639 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know. 11:45.699 --> 11:47.279 [SPEAKER_00]: People compare it. 11:47.319 --> 11:54.523 [SPEAKER_00]: People compare it to like the Vegas strip Whoa, so different than what you do so different. 11:54.543 --> 11:55.704 [SPEAKER_00]: So I like again. 11:55.744 --> 11:56.844 [SPEAKER_01]: We are like porcana. 11:57.004 --> 11:58.505 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like four gates 11:59.992 --> 12:00.892 [SPEAKER_01]: And they're outside. 12:01.252 --> 12:02.453 [SPEAKER_01]: There's no individual structure. 12:02.473 --> 12:04.433 [SPEAKER_00]: Can you can't go direct to Kona, can you? 12:05.154 --> 12:05.914 [SPEAKER_01]: From New York, no. 12:06.314 --> 12:09.375 [SPEAKER_01]: You have to, you could go to Denver, or you could go to California. 12:10.375 --> 12:12.076 [SPEAKER_00]: Do they do the Denver for your parents? 12:13.836 --> 12:14.076 [SPEAKER_00]: What? 12:14.576 --> 12:15.857 [SPEAKER_00]: Do they do the Denver for your parents? 12:15.877 --> 12:21.718 [SPEAKER_01]: They've heard that my parents were in Denver a lot, so they rerouted a lot of the United Flates. 12:21.978 --> 12:25.279 [SPEAKER_00]: I flew direct from New York to Honolulu. 12:25.299 --> 12:27.200 [SPEAKER_00]: And can I say luxury? 12:27.681 --> 12:28.943 [SPEAKER_00]: How long was the flight 12? 12:29.664 --> 12:31.526 [SPEAKER_00]: 10 hours, 10, not bad. 12:32.488 --> 12:34.450 [SPEAKER_00]: Now, our 10 at 10, 45, 10 hour, 45. 12:34.611 --> 12:37.855 [SPEAKER_00]: But it was like, the good news is, is the Wi-Fi was popping. 12:38.396 --> 12:44.224 [SPEAKER_00]: So I got a full day of work in for my survival job, which made me really happy. 12:47.951 --> 12:51.953 [SPEAKER_00]: which made me really happy because I'm working full-time with this tour. 12:52.333 --> 12:57.735 [SPEAKER_00]: And so it's just like, you know, I got to make sure I'm hitting those numbers, guys. 12:58.175 --> 13:00.356 [SPEAKER_00]: I got to make sure I'm sending emails. 13:00.496 --> 13:00.976 [SPEAKER_01]: Totally. 13:00.996 --> 13:02.216 [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm looking. 13:02.456 --> 13:03.897 [SPEAKER_01]: I have to show you something really funny. 13:03.937 --> 13:05.518 [SPEAKER_01]: It's gonna crack you up with no names. 13:06.178 --> 13:12.860 [SPEAKER_01]: One of my friends, kids, all of our kids, the first day of school, get a class picture taken and the teacher sends it to you to be like, here's our class. 13:13.701 --> 13:16.982 [SPEAKER_01]: And I was with one of my friends when she got 13:17.562 --> 13:24.467 [SPEAKER_01]: the picture of her daughter's class and shoot her face just instantly turned action. 13:24.487 --> 13:28.389 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god. 13:35.434 --> 13:36.095 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god. 13:36.888 --> 13:39.430 [SPEAKER_00]: We're going to learn that, we're going to she learned that. 13:39.470 --> 13:41.611 [SPEAKER_01]: Her child was making a very obscene gesture. 13:41.972 --> 13:44.253 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's see what it really is definitely. 13:44.313 --> 13:46.495 [SPEAKER_01]: The kid doesn't know it's an obscene gesture. 13:46.815 --> 13:48.636 [SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, no, tongue out. 13:48.776 --> 13:52.059 [SPEAKER_00]: And let's say a pea sign holding up two fingers. 13:52.199 --> 13:53.820 [SPEAKER_00]: You put two and two together folks. 13:54.000 --> 13:55.421 [SPEAKER_00]: Because that's what that is. 13:55.741 --> 13:57.182 [SPEAKER_01]: Whoa, weeping. 13:57.422 --> 14:00.985 [SPEAKER_01]: I was weeping so wild. 14:01.607 --> 14:03.469 [SPEAKER_00]: That's really wild. 14:03.709 --> 14:06.092 [SPEAKER_01]: Wait, so when did school start officially for the kids? 14:06.553 --> 14:11.098 [SPEAKER_01]: Last day had to be first full week this last week and they had a Thursday Friday the week before. 14:11.578 --> 14:20.388 [SPEAKER_01]: But all the kids were off New York Public Schools off on Monday for Yom Kippur and now we're back today and got a little four day week a week. 14:20.769 --> 14:22.290 [SPEAKER_01]: But that sounds lovely. 14:23.206 --> 14:23.606 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 14:23.706 --> 14:28.350 [SPEAKER_01]: And I definitely think this camping trip has got to be an annual because what a blast. 14:29.711 --> 14:35.395 [SPEAKER_00]: So if you've got the right gear, if you didn't rain, if you didn't rain, if it didn't be a whole different thing. 14:35.415 --> 14:37.096 [SPEAKER_00]: How much was brought on that trip? 14:37.197 --> 14:38.457 [SPEAKER_01]: You know what I did that was smart. 14:38.558 --> 14:40.159 [SPEAKER_01]: I batched them as countergrowny. 14:40.219 --> 14:46.924 [SPEAKER_01]: So I just had these these kind of tankered things that turn into has a spout on it. 14:47.144 --> 14:48.085 [SPEAKER_01]: So you can smart. 14:48.265 --> 14:49.886 [SPEAKER_01]: And I did one water and one 14:51.708 --> 14:57.134 [SPEAKER_01]: And I would just carry them as counter-growny like this pouch up to whatever site we were meeting at. 14:57.314 --> 15:00.559 [SPEAKER_01]: And then people could go up and just bring their own cup. 15:01.279 --> 15:08.849 [SPEAKER_01]: It was much smarter I thought because it was less wasteful, no cans, and it was a way of bringing about a billion hard drinks. 15:10.390 --> 15:23.974 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, everything else, if you could have seen the car, it looked like we were moving, there was stuff on everybody's lap, even the drivers and on our heads and I had pillows stacked behind my back. 15:24.634 --> 15:29.335 [SPEAKER_01]: It's wild how hard it is to figure out the prep of it is what I do it. 15:29.895 --> 15:35.439 [SPEAKER_01]: and we had to bring a pop tent as well or we wanted to to cover the picnic table because of the brain. 15:35.819 --> 15:37.941 [SPEAKER_01]: A lot of what we brought was because of the forecast. 15:37.961 --> 15:43.184 [SPEAKER_01]: So you everybody needed water shoes, everybody needed water gear, and that took up a ton of space too. 15:43.584 --> 15:46.927 [SPEAKER_01]: But I get why people like camping. 15:46.987 --> 15:47.967 [SPEAKER_01]: I get the idea. 15:50.489 --> 15:55.231 [SPEAKER_01]: As a person likes to solve puzzles, camping is just solving puzzles. 15:55.352 --> 16:01.355 [SPEAKER_01]: It's trying to figure out how what you need and how small you can get the things you need. 16:02.115 --> 16:06.778 [SPEAKER_01]: And then you're actually playing a game of Tetris when you load your trunk with those things. 16:08.098 --> 16:14.783 [SPEAKER_01]: And then you feel really good when somebody needs something on a campsite, and you have it. 16:15.063 --> 16:16.384 [SPEAKER_00]: You feel very superior. 16:16.424 --> 16:16.685 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 16:16.945 --> 16:17.645 [SPEAKER_01]: For sure. 16:17.685 --> 16:26.331 [SPEAKER_01]: Children's Tylenol, you bet your sweet ass, I've got some, and I know where to find it in this mess. 16:27.613 --> 16:29.596 [SPEAKER_01]: that is that is a feat. 16:30.257 --> 16:31.499 [SPEAKER_01]: I have to tell you one more thing. 16:31.559 --> 16:32.421 [SPEAKER_01]: It's really crazy. 16:32.901 --> 16:33.222 [SPEAKER_00]: Tell me. 16:33.683 --> 16:33.943 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. 16:34.824 --> 16:39.432 [SPEAKER_01]: Our kids, family of 11, there was maybe 20 shoe kids with us. 16:40.302 --> 16:46.545 [SPEAKER_01]: Our kids found another group of campsites that were six families camping, and they all had kids. 16:47.306 --> 16:56.071 [SPEAKER_01]: And so they scheduled a war, and they were teasing each other, and prompting, they were like, we're gonna do a battle. 16:56.191 --> 17:05.876 [SPEAKER_01]: There will be a battle between this group of kids and us, and we're gonna schedule it, and we're gonna spy on each other, and it was loads of fun for all the kids. 17:07.317 --> 17:07.477 [SPEAKER_01]: And, 17:08.818 --> 17:24.028 [SPEAKER_01]: Because our group was low-key engaged with that group, that group ended up seeing our kids, and someone in that group recognized Kowa and came over and guess who was part of the other family group. 17:24.749 --> 17:25.109 [SPEAKER_00]: Who? 17:25.449 --> 17:26.450 [SPEAKER_01]: Jamie and Mandy. 17:28.952 --> 17:29.312 [SPEAKER_01]: Wait. 17:30.994 --> 17:32.135 [SPEAKER_01]: No way. 17:32.195 --> 17:35.138 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they were there with their kids beta. 17:35.158 --> 17:36.839 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's so cool. 17:36.879 --> 17:40.702 [SPEAKER_01]: And so beta and Teddy were part of the other kid group. 17:41.383 --> 17:47.208 [SPEAKER_01]: And it was just so random to be on a campaign trip just for the dear readers context. 17:47.588 --> 17:59.392 [SPEAKER_01]: It's a friend of ours and we worked with him for like a decade in a immersive show and he has a couple of kids and his wife's fabulous and mats worked with his wife and basically they're great people. 17:59.412 --> 18:06.935 [SPEAKER_01]: They're very, yeah, they're both really funny comedians and they were there with their kids and so it was just so wild we had got to hang out with them a little bit too. 18:07.515 --> 18:08.755 [SPEAKER_00]: I love that so much. 18:08.815 --> 18:16.218 [SPEAKER_01]: Matt, that's Matt, you found them and then had them sneak up on me while I was reading by the lake and just walk up and be like, hey, what are you reading and it was so creepy. 18:16.955 --> 18:17.816 [SPEAKER_00]: That's really good. 18:17.836 --> 18:24.102 [SPEAKER_00]: I was going to say, speaking of like blast from the past, it's getting folly in New York, which is very fun. 18:24.202 --> 18:27.265 [SPEAKER_00]: Like the forecast this week looks incredible. 18:27.505 --> 18:27.765 [SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm. 18:28.266 --> 18:31.869 [SPEAKER_00]: Even the Laman Hawaiian Arizona, but I'll be back for a day, but count it, I'll be back. 18:32.490 --> 18:33.271 [SPEAKER_00]: And, um, 18:35.292 --> 18:43.239 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm getting texts, but the last week or so, I'm getting texts from these men I've dated on hinge that like sort of fizzled out. 18:43.939 --> 18:58.792 [SPEAKER_00]: Listen, I don't think any of these people are the father of my children, but what I think is really funny is as a single person, it's kind of fun, well it's funny, it's comical to me to be like these guys in cuffing season, these single men, it gets a little 19:01.274 --> 19:08.921 [SPEAKER_00]: Who have I kind of not totally fucked over that I can text and Ritching out and like hey, sorry I dropped the ball. 19:09.101 --> 19:27.477 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like it's been two months the ball half been dropped And they dropped it you dropped it and then one guy Was like he was the guy that just really dropped the ball and Not in a way that I was like you really hurt me, but in a way that I was like, you know, I don't ever got going 19:28.358 --> 19:29.200 [SPEAKER_00]: It never got going. 19:29.280 --> 19:30.542 [SPEAKER_00]: I think I told you about him. 19:30.562 --> 19:31.304 [SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm. 19:31.885 --> 19:33.447 [SPEAKER_00]: And that kisser. 19:34.109 --> 19:34.489 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah. 19:34.990 --> 19:38.056 [SPEAKER_00]: But he, I think did I talk about the bad kiss on the podcast? 19:38.076 --> 19:38.577 [SPEAKER_00]: I think I did. 19:39.460 --> 19:58.089 [SPEAKER_00]: at least on a the patreon probably well he was someone who was very busy at work and would text me like once a week and like non-committal and then canceled the date asked for a rain check never rain check which is pro tip if you're going to rain check was someone who should probably plan the next date anyway 19:59.530 --> 20:03.493 [SPEAKER_00]: He texted was like, hey, I wanna grab a drink some time and I was like, dude, I'm really busy this fall. 20:03.754 --> 20:05.475 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think it's gonna swing, but thanks for your help. 20:05.495 --> 20:07.897 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm really busy this fall is rough. 20:09.218 --> 20:10.880 [SPEAKER_01]: That is an amazing remark. 20:11.280 --> 20:13.021 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm super busy this fall. 20:13.041 --> 20:14.002 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 20:14.222 --> 20:20.327 [SPEAKER_00]: Especially especially because that was always his excuse and he was like, but you're probably sick of my apologies. 20:20.407 --> 20:24.811 [SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, I'm just gonna prep this if I be like, I'm really busy this fall, but thanks for reaching out. 20:24.991 --> 20:25.852 [SPEAKER_00]: Very professional. 20:26.972 --> 20:31.114 [SPEAKER_00]: And, um, and then he wrote that and he was like, Oh, I know you're busy. 20:31.434 --> 20:32.975 [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, I know you're busy. 20:33.295 --> 20:34.495 [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, hope I didn't blow it. 20:35.156 --> 20:36.076 [SPEAKER_00]: And I never wrote back. 20:36.196 --> 20:38.537 [SPEAKER_00]: But I wanted to be like, Dude, you blew it. 20:39.137 --> 20:39.678 [SPEAKER_00]: What do you mean? 20:39.698 --> 20:40.818 [SPEAKER_00]: I hope you didn't blow it. 20:41.098 --> 20:42.839 [SPEAKER_00]: You blew it. 20:44.409 --> 21:00.038 [SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, so cuffing season is upon us and it's very fun and exciting to be on the receiver of sort of like who, who kind of fizzled out and feels like maybe they're suddenly they can mine out of this relationship that I know it's not going to happen. 21:00.138 --> 21:01.338 [SPEAKER_00]: We have raw chicken guy. 21:01.358 --> 21:06.081 [SPEAKER_00]: We have guy who never texted and said weird things. 21:10.357 --> 21:10.677 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 21:10.837 --> 21:11.378 [SPEAKER_00]: You like him. 21:11.518 --> 21:13.699 [SPEAKER_00]: I kind of want a part of you wants to go back out with him. 21:13.820 --> 21:16.421 [SPEAKER_00]: Again, again, these people are so crazy. 21:16.502 --> 21:17.342 [SPEAKER_00]: They texted me. 21:17.482 --> 21:19.984 [SPEAKER_00]: He texted me Saturday morning. 21:20.004 --> 21:20.224 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm Lee. 21:20.264 --> 21:21.505 [SPEAKER_00]: I left Sunday for Hawaii. 21:21.545 --> 21:25.468 [SPEAKER_00]: He let texts me Saturday morning and was like, hey, like, I know it's late. 21:25.488 --> 21:26.249 [SPEAKER_00]: I had a friend in town. 21:26.289 --> 21:27.229 [SPEAKER_00]: I'd been so busy. 21:27.389 --> 21:28.490 [SPEAKER_00]: Sorry to text earlier. 21:28.510 --> 21:30.211 [SPEAKER_00]: Do you want to go for a drink tonight? 21:30.231 --> 21:30.752 [SPEAKER_01]: Uh-huh. 21:31.032 --> 21:36.516 [SPEAKER_00]: And I took my sweetest time because I was busy packing and getting ready and he and I was like, sorry, I'm leaving for a while tomorrow. 21:36.536 --> 21:37.816 [SPEAKER_00]: He's like, I mean, I knew that. 21:37.917 --> 21:41.139 [SPEAKER_00]: I just thought, you know, maybe, you know, I figured, you know, you get a drink. 21:41.159 --> 21:42.019 [SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, I'm busy too. 21:42.039 --> 21:43.240 [SPEAKER_00]: I have to pack tonight as well. 21:43.260 --> 21:46.682 [SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, it's like, did you say that? 21:46.722 --> 21:48.143 [SPEAKER_01]: You were asking me out by the way. 21:48.223 --> 21:49.164 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm also busy. 21:49.884 --> 21:51.225 [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't need to be in a squad with you. 21:51.245 --> 21:52.046 [SPEAKER_01]: I was too late. 21:52.326 --> 21:53.286 [SPEAKER_00]: Reverse me. 21:53.507 --> 21:54.587 [SPEAKER_00]: What is happening? 21:54.647 --> 21:56.829 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, what is going on? 21:57.910 --> 21:59.150 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm busy too. 21:59.590 --> 22:00.251 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm packing too. 22:00.351 --> 22:02.551 [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm really busy myself over here. 22:02.691 --> 22:03.591 [SPEAKER_00]: So, okay. 22:03.771 --> 22:04.091 [SPEAKER_00]: Bye. 22:05.752 --> 22:06.132 [SPEAKER_00]: Wild. 22:06.712 --> 22:09.073 [SPEAKER_00]: By the way, speaking of dating, you're listening to truly. 22:09.193 --> 22:09.613 [SPEAKER_00]: Darkly. 22:10.373 --> 22:12.133 [SPEAKER_00]: Cleanly. 22:12.953 --> 22:23.796 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm Carrie Ipima and that's Quinlan Posner who is going to tell us a little story after you hear these ads that hopefully are good and nice and not offensive. 22:26.915 --> 22:41.425 [SPEAKER_01]: Hi everybody, I got this news from ABC Fox and some court case stuff, but mostly actually Gilbert Sun News, this article by Cecilia Chan was really good and that's really where it all lies. 22:43.703 --> 22:46.786 [SPEAKER_01]: This is a story about 30-year-old Alyssa Olsen. 22:47.887 --> 22:54.372 [SPEAKER_01]: She has come home to Gilbert, and she's going to stay there because she's going through a divorce. 22:54.452 --> 23:01.839 [SPEAKER_01]: She's separated from her husband, and she comes home to her mom and dad at Embarbara, and she's in the thick of it. 23:01.959 --> 23:02.559 [SPEAKER_01]: She's pretty. 23:03.820 --> 23:13.410 [SPEAKER_01]: Heartbroken and disappointed and they're seeing that she's pretty reclusive, staying in her bedroom, not eating. 23:14.370 --> 23:22.598 [SPEAKER_01]: One thing she is doing for self-care is going out to a pond nearby journaling, meditating. 23:23.519 --> 23:27.643 [SPEAKER_01]: Alyssa had gone to Gilbert High School and then she dropped out of college. 23:27.663 --> 23:33.648 [SPEAKER_01]: She was somebody that really liked baking and music and babysitting and lots of wholesome things. 23:34.228 --> 23:38.072 [SPEAKER_01]: Speaking of wholesome, would you believe it Alyssa loved God? 23:38.792 --> 23:43.116 [SPEAKER_01]: And when she was in her 20s, she started to have a really 23:52.930 --> 24:03.813 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, it's hard because I don't understand, obviously, religion, but in my head I'm like to follow what his lead, what she assumes he wants, I can't really get in the head space. 24:04.253 --> 24:10.574 [SPEAKER_01]: What I do know is she got rid of her bank account and her phone and her scholarship and her job. 24:12.395 --> 24:17.096 [SPEAKER_01]: She says she doesn't believe in that stuff anymore, but I can assure her, it's very real. 24:18.665 --> 24:19.406 [SPEAKER_01]: She's very zealous. 24:19.706 --> 24:19.946 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. 24:19.966 --> 24:24.410 [SPEAKER_01]: She's praying a lot and she's asking God a lot of questions. 24:24.690 --> 24:25.491 [SPEAKER_01]: What should I eat today? 24:25.511 --> 24:26.972 [SPEAKER_01]: What should I wear? 24:27.052 --> 24:27.853 [SPEAKER_01]: Where should I go? 24:27.873 --> 24:34.698 [SPEAKER_01]: In 2012, she meets Braden Olson, who changes his name to Elijah. 24:35.639 --> 24:37.901 [SPEAKER_01]: My best friend's name is Braden and 24:39.300 --> 24:58.960 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think he would change his name to, I don't think he would change his name to, I don't think he would change his name to, I don't think he would change his name to, I don't think he would change his name to, I don't think he would change his name to, I don't think he would change his name to, I don't think he would change his name to, I don't think he would change his name to, I don't think he would change his name to, I don't think he would change his name to, I don't think he would change his name to, I don't think he would change his name to, I don't think he would change his name to, I don't think he would change his name to, I don't think he would change his name to, I don't think he would change his name to, I don't think he would change his name to, I don't think he would change his name to, I don't think he would change his name to, I don't 24:59.836 --> 25:02.279 [SPEAKER_01]: International House of Prayer, you get... 25:02.299 --> 25:05.161 [SPEAKER_01]: Wait, remap, I'll sue a report right on your prayer. 25:06.343 --> 25:08.725 [SPEAKER_00]: Speaking of which, did you see there was an interview with Alan coming? 25:08.845 --> 25:12.709 [SPEAKER_00]: Your love about traders, about the International House of Pancakes. 25:12.849 --> 25:21.076 [SPEAKER_00]: And he was like, they told me where they were going and they were like, we're going to the International House of Pancakes and he's like, I'd like to go that and see what the International House of Pancakes is. 25:21.577 --> 25:23.559 [SPEAKER_00]: And he's like, it's just American food. 25:25.000 --> 25:36.826 [SPEAKER_00]: that I mean international without it and then apparently I've for what I from some I think I forget what chose it was, but they were like, there's flags of all the countries hanging up and is that what makes it the international house? 25:37.046 --> 25:38.027 [SPEAKER_01]: There are big flags. 25:38.067 --> 25:40.388 [SPEAKER_01]: This is probably what made it the international house a prayer. 25:40.448 --> 25:46.992 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it was uh, interfaith, you don't think it was a U.N. sort of like, you don't get the feeling it was. 25:47.552 --> 25:52.339 [SPEAKER_01]: They say that after she meets braid and she really starts, you know, she stops talking to her friends. 25:52.499 --> 25:58.187 [SPEAKER_01]: It becomes a very intense relationship where it's just them and they're doing a lot of proselytizing. 25:59.068 --> 26:04.636 [SPEAKER_01]: And they become part of what's called the new apostolic reformation movement. 26:06.253 --> 26:08.874 [SPEAKER_01]: They just want to chat Jesus, that's the main bag. 26:09.414 --> 26:13.254 [SPEAKER_01]: They don't have as stated jobs or money. 26:13.754 --> 26:17.935 [SPEAKER_01]: So they're crashing with people till basically it gets awkward and then they have to leave. 26:17.975 --> 26:23.536 [SPEAKER_01]: And I think a lot of times people give them little money gifts to keep them afloat. 26:24.697 --> 26:29.157 [SPEAKER_01]: But right now, you say to yourself, they seem to like the same stuff. 26:29.197 --> 26:29.837 [SPEAKER_01]: What's going on? 26:29.897 --> 26:30.718 [SPEAKER_01]: Why the divorce? 26:32.078 --> 26:32.358 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, 26:34.532 --> 26:43.077 [SPEAKER_01]: I guess, Braden comes home to tell his parents about the divorce and says, I'm trying to talk to Alyssa. 26:43.157 --> 26:50.462 [SPEAKER_01]: She's not returning my calls and I'm really distressed and really upset. 26:50.862 --> 26:54.324 [SPEAKER_01]: And it's a little bit about how we don't see eye to eye on the religious stuff. 26:56.306 --> 26:58.987 [SPEAKER_01]: I need to be alone to figure out what I want. 26:59.328 --> 27:02.189 [SPEAKER_01]: It's a spiritual journey for me because 27:03.350 --> 27:07.312 [SPEAKER_01]: It sounds like we're just going to maybe be on two different paths. 27:07.973 --> 27:11.614 [SPEAKER_01]: His parents, when he's home, are, well, I don't know. 27:11.694 --> 27:26.962 [SPEAKER_01]: I, you know, they weren't forthcoming your interview to about this, but I do know that they are not super religious and that they feel worried about how religious this couple is. 27:29.449 --> 27:31.331 [SPEAKER_01]: So he doesn't end up same with his parents. 27:31.411 --> 27:36.255 [SPEAKER_01]: All this is to say he ends up telling them about the divorces in the works and he goes and stays with a friend. 27:37.375 --> 27:39.217 [SPEAKER_01]: Alyssa is last seen on June 9th. 27:39.357 --> 27:45.242 [SPEAKER_01]: She's going to the preserve park near Greenfield because your Greenfield road and Guadalupe road. 27:45.622 --> 27:49.685 [SPEAKER_01]: That's where she goes to relax to meditate to journal. 27:49.945 --> 27:52.647 [SPEAKER_01]: That's what she's been doing every day and a park range or sees her. 27:53.848 --> 27:54.389 [SPEAKER_01]: doing this. 27:54.929 --> 27:59.051 [SPEAKER_01]: But by seven, she doesn't come back and it's dark. 27:59.712 --> 28:01.533 [SPEAKER_01]: Her parents collar, she doesn't pick up. 28:01.733 --> 28:07.196 [SPEAKER_01]: They drive to the preserve because they know that that's where she was. 28:07.636 --> 28:11.058 [SPEAKER_01]: They cannot find her, but they see her car. 28:12.319 --> 28:13.199 [SPEAKER_01]: and it's locked. 28:14.360 --> 28:15.781 [SPEAKER_01]: So she never got back to it. 28:15.801 --> 28:18.123 [SPEAKER_01]: It looks like she locked the car and never got back to it. 28:18.303 --> 28:20.444 [SPEAKER_01]: And now 11 at night, it's still not home. 28:21.005 --> 28:24.467 [SPEAKER_01]: They file a missing person's report. 28:25.708 --> 28:27.769 [SPEAKER_01]: They say she doesn't have any medical problems. 28:27.870 --> 28:30.251 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, she was depressed, but she didn't seem suicidal. 28:30.411 --> 28:31.672 [SPEAKER_01]: She doesn't have any mental illness. 28:31.712 --> 28:34.634 [SPEAKER_01]: She doesn't have any drug and alcohol usage. 28:35.855 --> 28:48.163 [SPEAKER_01]: So they put her in the national database, they seal the park up in some tape and they start to search, using infrared cameras, using dogs, everything they can, but they don't find anything. 28:48.864 --> 28:54.508 [SPEAKER_01]: They start to walk around and ask local hospitals, churches, they go through her cell phone. 28:54.768 --> 29:01.953 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what they find on there because it's all been redacted, but later in the day they do finally find her, but she is dead. 29:02.894 --> 29:04.875 [SPEAKER_01]: They find her body there. 29:05.415 --> 29:07.356 [SPEAKER_01]: at the pond on the shoreline. 29:07.816 --> 29:17.902 [SPEAKER_01]: She's in very shallow water, muddy and naked, and the bottom of her feet are really muddy that suggests that she walked actually in the mud. 29:19.202 --> 29:25.485 [SPEAKER_01]: And it's, they have to wade through very heavy bushes and plants to get to the body. 29:26.186 --> 29:26.486 [SPEAKER_00]: Right? 29:28.332 --> 29:39.903 [SPEAKER_01]: They get to her and it's, I mean, I feel like it's been fast that they found her, but they say that already, it's hard to identify her due to decomposition. 29:40.284 --> 29:48.412 [SPEAKER_01]: Her arms are at her sides, her hands are upward, and there's no visible signs of trauma on the body. 29:49.979 --> 29:57.743 [SPEAKER_01]: but they do an autopsy on June 11th and they can figure out that it's her, she has hints in her hips that she had from a surgery. 29:58.683 --> 30:03.246 [SPEAKER_01]: They drug test her, no drugs, and there's no water in her lungs. 30:03.426 --> 30:04.686 [SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't, however, she died. 30:04.706 --> 30:06.067 [SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't have to do with drowning. 30:06.667 --> 30:09.829 [SPEAKER_01]: They do rape kit, it's just her DNA, but they keep it. 30:10.189 --> 30:12.710 [SPEAKER_01]: They do fingernail clippings. 30:12.750 --> 30:16.872 [SPEAKER_01]: They drain the pond to see if there's anything in there, but they can't find a thing that helps them. 30:18.093 --> 30:21.314 [SPEAKER_01]: So they rule this death undetermined. 30:21.674 --> 30:32.118 [SPEAKER_01]: They don't know if it's murder, they don't know if it's suicide, they don't know if it's accidental, which seems like what are you doing naked in the mud, but her parents say, look, it's not suicide. 30:33.558 --> 30:44.361 [SPEAKER_01]: very religious and she definitely criticized suicide in a way that makes that would lead us to believe that would not be on her list. 30:44.801 --> 30:45.081 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 30:45.521 --> 30:51.823 [SPEAKER_01]: Her sister says, I have always felt really suspicious of this new church that she and Braden had become a part of. 30:52.023 --> 30:55.824 [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's the church and I also think Braden knows something and that he's not saying it. 30:57.825 --> 31:13.576 [SPEAKER_01]: The more interesting leads that end up happening are that the police interview an unhoused man that was definitely on the premise of the Reparian on June 9th and he often wrote his bike there. 31:14.497 --> 31:32.185 [SPEAKER_01]: He is a registered sex offender, and when they talk to him, he says, well, I heard a gunshot, and I saw a black guy walking on the paths a couple of days before she was found, and I just think it's weird because there's not a lot of black people that come out to this park. 31:33.525 --> 31:37.287 [SPEAKER_01]: That I don't know for me reminds me so much of the cases where 31:38.970 --> 31:42.174 [SPEAKER_01]: someone calls black man, like, cries wolf. 31:42.434 --> 31:53.065 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, basically, you have your own track, if I say, wouldn't you rather, I'm gonna play upon your racism, the racism of the community at large and say, wouldn't you rather it be this? 31:54.106 --> 31:55.448 [SPEAKER_01]: Doesn't that sound right to you? 31:55.468 --> 31:56.469 [SPEAKER_01]: It just, just, 31:57.610 --> 32:01.693 [SPEAKER_01]: the way that it was written in reading it and I didn't read what he said exactly. 32:01.953 --> 32:04.815 [SPEAKER_01]: That's what kind of alarm bells went off for me. 32:05.216 --> 32:06.076 [SPEAKER_00]: Of course, yeah. 32:06.476 --> 32:22.488 [SPEAKER_01]: They find his backpack after her death and it has religious writings in it, which if she's proselytizing and that's habit and everyone she's engaging with, she's trying to introduce to her best friend Jesus, it doesn't seem 32:24.493 --> 32:29.796 [SPEAKER_01]: They could crazy thought that she was doing that in the park with someone that would she would come across. 32:31.417 --> 32:35.339 [SPEAKER_01]: However, they can't prove it was hers and he says, well, I'm a Christian. 32:35.379 --> 32:41.282 [SPEAKER_01]: I just write this religious stuff all the time and they're like, well, why do you have latex gloves and a hair tie in your bag? 32:41.482 --> 32:43.943 [SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, well, I work at a restaurant sometimes. 32:44.224 --> 32:48.606 [SPEAKER_01]: And I take the gloves from the restaurant and use them for other things. 32:48.666 --> 32:50.747 [SPEAKER_01]: And the hair tie I used to have long hair. 32:53.008 --> 33:05.856 [SPEAKER_01]: Basically, what I do understand is they do not, once they think that this could be it later on, they've already destroyed the evidence, so they can't link it to her, even if it was linked. 33:08.115 --> 33:34.096 [SPEAKER_01]: Well another thing that happens is that November of 2017 her mom says that the family is being harassed and almost stalked by somebody a person seems very obsessed with the case and obsessed with them and went out to the repairing and took all these photos and then showed them to the family and was like do you see do you see here I think there's drag marks and steps around the pond and footprints and I think Braden killed Alyssa 33:35.357 --> 33:50.015 [SPEAKER_01]: And the police do interview this person and he says yes, well, I met Alyssa in 2010 and I'm pretty sure Braden was involved, but then I changed my mind because I realized that Braden was not in state at the time, which is true. 33:51.997 --> 33:56.520 [SPEAKER_01]: and I don't believe anyone would have helped him with her murder because it would have been. 33:56.540 --> 34:00.944 [SPEAKER_01]: He didn't have a great enough reason that someone would have helped. 34:01.164 --> 34:09.830 [SPEAKER_01]: The interview braiden and he says, why talk to Alyssa for hours on the day before she went missing and it was a really good conversation. 34:11.627 --> 34:14.549 [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't want to be separate from her either and they're like, well, then why are you? 34:15.170 --> 34:21.735 [SPEAKER_01]: And he says, well, I'm not so good as Alyssa's at following the Lord's way. 34:22.275 --> 34:26.378 [SPEAKER_01]: I watch porn and I look at women and I want to drink. 34:26.418 --> 34:26.979 [SPEAKER_01]: I want to smoke. 34:27.019 --> 34:28.740 [SPEAKER_01]: I think maybe one day I want to get a job. 34:28.840 --> 34:35.886 [SPEAKER_01]: I just don't know if this really strict religious regiment is built for me and I know Alyssa doesn't approve of that. 34:35.986 --> 34:37.487 [SPEAKER_01]: So we had to go our own ways. 34:40.389 --> 34:42.810 [SPEAKER_01]: they ask him, what do you think happened? 34:43.570 --> 34:53.053 [SPEAKER_01]: He says he doesn't think that she killed herself and he thinks she was attacked and he says, and actually the Lord told me she was attacked by Satan spiritually. 34:53.733 --> 34:58.835 [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like it's almost like she got thrown in the water or something, by a demon or something. 34:59.355 --> 35:04.277 [SPEAKER_01]: I really really believe that honestly do because of what Jesus told me. 35:05.557 --> 35:07.578 [SPEAKER_01]: And so, that's where we leave Brayden. 35:08.598 --> 35:23.321 [SPEAKER_01]: He thinks a demon told Alyssa, and one thing that happens during these conversations is he draws for the police where they found Alyssa, and says that he knows about it from the media. 35:23.861 --> 35:33.383 [SPEAKER_01]: But the police can't find any media that release the exact location of where she was found, but the shrine is really right on. 35:34.443 --> 35:35.744 [SPEAKER_01]: So they tell braid in that. 35:36.004 --> 35:38.566 [SPEAKER_01]: They're like, dude, you drew this real well. 35:38.706 --> 35:39.947 [SPEAKER_01]: This is totally it. 35:40.708 --> 35:41.568 [SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, yeah, yeah, I know. 35:41.608 --> 35:43.850 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I saw it in the media and they're like, great. 35:43.890 --> 35:47.293 [SPEAKER_01]: Just show us the piece of media that has that you saw. 35:48.053 --> 35:50.575 [SPEAKER_01]: And obviously, he can't produce that. 35:50.675 --> 35:51.436 [SPEAKER_01]: And then they say, 35:53.157 --> 35:55.738 [SPEAKER_01]: We're having a really hard time ruling you out, Braden. 35:55.918 --> 35:57.239 [SPEAKER_01]: Can you imagine why that might be? 35:57.299 --> 35:59.260 [SPEAKER_01]: And he goes, because of lack of evidence. 36:00.080 --> 36:02.601 [SPEAKER_01]: And they're like, how do you know we don't have any evidence? 36:02.861 --> 36:05.362 [SPEAKER_01]: And he says, oh, why can you ask him for evidence? 36:05.662 --> 36:07.883 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, I don't know. 36:08.744 --> 36:09.744 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he was interviewed. 36:09.924 --> 36:15.866 [SPEAKER_01]: And again, I read in this article in the Harald Sun that the, or the, the Harald Sun. 36:17.347 --> 36:17.988 [SPEAKER_01]: whatever it is. 36:18.588 --> 36:23.272 [SPEAKER_01]: I read in this article that a lot of that was redacted so we don't know so many things. 36:23.912 --> 36:36.402 [SPEAKER_01]: We do know that the detective says it's possible that she was murdered by someone trying to help her get rid of demons and then the process went too far. 36:36.462 --> 36:45.390 [SPEAKER_01]: Almost like an exorcism of some sort or a cleansing or a what do you call it when you get people in water, baptism, something similar, something a religious, 36:47.424 --> 36:59.435 [SPEAKER_01]: action to do something else that went too far somehow, and I wonder if they think that because of what Braden said, Braden says, they say to Braden, okay, what do you think? 36:59.936 --> 37:07.122 [SPEAKER_01]: Do you think that she was murdered or that someone was just trying to help her get rid of demons and something went wrong? 37:07.403 --> 37:11.426 [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like they're kind of trying to hand him, did maybe you were trying to help her? 37:12.567 --> 37:17.330 [SPEAKER_01]: And he says, I think the second thing, and they're like, yeah, we know you think that. 37:17.810 --> 37:21.733 [SPEAKER_01]: And then he said, I think Alyssa was fighting with it spiritually and it overtook her. 37:22.433 --> 37:23.554 [SPEAKER_01]: Like she didn't have help. 37:26.186 --> 37:30.229 [SPEAKER_01]: They say, OK, look, Braden, do you want to take a stress analysis? 37:30.809 --> 37:33.852 [SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, I don't think the Lord wants me to take a test. 37:34.472 --> 37:37.034 [SPEAKER_01]: And they're just like, so here's the cool thing about this test. 37:37.995 --> 37:39.255 [SPEAKER_01]: We can't use it in court. 37:39.616 --> 37:40.136 [SPEAKER_01]: We can't. 37:40.356 --> 37:44.199 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, but we can use it towards exonerating now. 37:45.400 --> 37:47.121 [SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, I'm not going to do it. 37:47.842 --> 37:48.902 [SPEAKER_01]: And they're like, interesting. 37:49.062 --> 37:49.863 [SPEAKER_01]: OK, OK. 37:56.798 --> 38:18.048 [SPEAKER_01]: when they have her memorial service at Sun Valley Community Church on June 24th, 2016, the police say that Braden would not let her family speak and only allowed members of their church to speak during the service and they spoke ill of the family. 38:18.728 --> 38:20.489 [SPEAKER_01]: So it sounds very intense. 38:20.509 --> 38:21.849 [SPEAKER_01]: The family didn't know these people 38:25.469 --> 38:51.083 [SPEAKER_01]: It was a not only do they not have closure, but her husband, I don't totally understand why they didn't override him or have their own service, which I would have done, but it's just to keep you in the know that he has that personality, I think that feels very controlling and was pulling her away from her family and separating her, and sometimes we see those kind of personalities be connected to other sorts of abuse. 38:51.763 --> 38:53.424 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't have any evidence of that. 38:53.645 --> 39:02.350 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just speculating, but it's an unsolved murder. 39:02.891 --> 39:16.040 [SPEAKER_01]: And so the family has no closure and not even a homicide ruling, which gets in the way of pushing this investigation further item out. 39:16.060 --> 39:17.961 [SPEAKER_01]: And when you say, we don't even know if it's that. 39:19.822 --> 39:21.263 [SPEAKER_01]: But it's really interesting. 39:21.443 --> 39:30.451 [SPEAKER_01]: It reminded me a little of John Bene in the sense that they took you down a couple roads with this unhoused man that had the backpack with very strange things in it that they never tested. 39:31.051 --> 39:48.645 [SPEAKER_01]: The repetition of them speaking about things being lost or redacted or hidden from public eye where we can't know what's happening or if someone knows something, the idea that the way and just, 39:50.674 --> 39:54.969 [SPEAKER_01]: It definitely feels like there's a list of things that could have happened, and 39:56.476 --> 40:08.059 [SPEAKER_01]: When you talked to our friends, they also had the sense that people that knew her did not have the sense she would have killed herself, but did have the sense that she had no boundaries in terms of who she would have spoken to about Jesus. 40:08.859 --> 40:19.862 [SPEAKER_01]: So if she had seen anybody in that park at any hour, she would have gladly engaged, and if she engaged with the wrong person, whoever that person might be, something bad would happen. 40:20.262 --> 40:23.263 [SPEAKER_01]: I think, Braden, we know, was out of town and didn't do it. 40:23.523 --> 40:23.883 [SPEAKER_01]: He was... 40:24.703 --> 40:27.386 [SPEAKER_01]: in Washington I think and she was in Arizona. 40:28.066 --> 40:30.168 [SPEAKER_01]: He has, he was not in town. 40:30.348 --> 40:34.872 [SPEAKER_01]: So as much as the police are like, thank, he knows where the body is. 40:37.315 --> 40:48.745 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't see how he could remain a suspect unless the allegation is that he had help and then I say to myself, I don't see, there was no money to be gained. 40:49.125 --> 40:50.907 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't see who would have done it for him. 40:51.725 --> 40:52.005 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 40:52.665 --> 40:54.806 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it sounds like so. 40:54.966 --> 41:03.950 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, one, the trauma her family is going through of like not having justice and not knowing who did it is horrifying and to compound it. 41:08.151 --> 41:16.294 [SPEAKER_00]: The grieving head by like this community that's basically icing them out is just horrific too. 41:19.835 --> 41:20.156 [SPEAKER_00]: Right. 41:20.536 --> 41:20.956 [SPEAKER_00]: That is. 41:23.945 --> 41:35.579 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, thanks for sharing that story and I hope that there is a break in the case and I hope something happens where we find out what happened to this woman who clearly was hurt. 41:36.059 --> 41:40.264 [SPEAKER_00]: My heart goes out because her heart was breaking or her heart was broken. 41:40.324 --> 41:43.789 [SPEAKER_00]: She was going through a heart break and you know 41:46.372 --> 42:02.603 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like you look for answers because it feels so bad, you know, like, I know that I know that like I will look more at astrology if I'm feeling sad because I just want like some answers and I know it's not real. 42:02.683 --> 42:09.948 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, and I know it's I mean, I look at things that I know aren't real, you know, you're like, if this is x, y and z, that's it. 42:18.398 --> 42:22.360 [SPEAKER_01]: We don't have time to do it on this episode, but I'll tell you what that yield is. 42:22.380 --> 42:28.724 [SPEAKER_01]: We're talking about a lot of different kinds of, how a lot of people that we know that have turned a therapy have also turned to. 42:30.356 --> 42:38.903 [SPEAKER_01]: which is in pet psychics and people that can predict things and numerologists and there was a really interesting the conversation that came out of it that I want to share with you. 42:38.983 --> 42:45.068 [SPEAKER_01]: But yes, I think when we're experiencing the unimaginable, we look for answers anywhere. 42:45.088 --> 42:50.072 [SPEAKER_01]: We can get them because our pain feels surreal so maybe the answer is going to come from a surreal place. 42:50.232 --> 42:57.037 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, and we just want hope, and I think that's part of it, too, as I think some of you just like, I want to know what's going to be okay. 42:57.658 --> 43:01.921 [SPEAKER_00]: And like, I know cerebrally, like, I know in most situations. 43:02.382 --> 43:11.149 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to be okay because what I keep a mantra that I repeat to myself often is, and this is maybe not the kindest mantra, but I'm like, idiots do it all the time. 43:11.769 --> 43:25.982 [SPEAKER_00]: which is, which is to say when I feel like certainly daunting by life's work, the same thing can be said about like loss and grief and not idiots, but like people do this all the time. 43:26.342 --> 43:31.626 [SPEAKER_00]: Nothing I experience, me, careyep, and what's going to experience is unique. 43:32.847 --> 43:33.168 [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you. 43:33.748 --> 43:43.433 [SPEAKER_00]: I know that sounds, I don't know what that sounds, I'm not going to make a judgment on it, but anything that I experience in life is probably not a unique experience. 43:43.934 --> 43:46.495 [SPEAKER_00]: And it's a lovely experience for a young, wonderful person. 43:46.535 --> 43:47.816 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, let the person. 43:47.836 --> 43:48.096 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes. 43:48.716 --> 43:51.538 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, I know that if I... 43:52.218 --> 43:54.539 [SPEAKER_00]: Break up with someone, and I feel really sad. 43:54.739 --> 43:56.139 [SPEAKER_00]: It feels isolating. 43:56.259 --> 43:57.880 [SPEAKER_00]: It feels uniquely mine. 43:58.340 --> 44:02.801 [SPEAKER_00]: It feels like an individual, and that's the tricky part of it. 44:03.241 --> 44:07.623 [SPEAKER_00]: But if you like zoom out and you go, one, I've made of experience this myself before. 44:08.263 --> 44:15.505 [SPEAKER_00]: Two, I got through it, or, you know, I know someone, everybody's experience some form of this, and like they got through it too. 44:16.939 --> 44:17.860 [SPEAKER_00]: And that's really hard. 44:17.940 --> 44:20.021 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not just counting the feeling of it. 44:20.441 --> 44:25.384 [SPEAKER_00]: But that does buoy me and often give me strength to be like, okay, it's been done before. 44:25.704 --> 44:26.465 [SPEAKER_00]: People have healed. 44:26.725 --> 44:27.225 [SPEAKER_00]: It's okay. 44:34.650 --> 44:36.771 [SPEAKER_00]: I got my information from Wikipedia. 44:36.911 --> 44:37.852 [SPEAKER_00]: Time magazine. 44:37.972 --> 44:40.393 [SPEAKER_00]: There's a Netflix show called The Truth and 44:47.238 --> 45:01.666 [SPEAKER_00]: So Anna Mariah Mo Wilson, people call her Mo, she was born in 1996 and she is from New Hampshire originally but she grows up in Vermont and she's raised by a very athletic family. 45:01.686 --> 45:11.892 [SPEAKER_00]: Like everybody is moving, they're active, they're moving their bodies from a young age and Mo gets really into skiing and so they have all of these footage of her. 45:12.973 --> 45:17.854 [SPEAKER_00]: and at nine, she's doing downhill skiing and then her dad is really into cycling. 45:18.295 --> 45:22.516 [SPEAKER_00]: She's really into cycling and so she starts pursuing downhill skiing. 45:22.556 --> 45:36.020 [SPEAKER_00]: She goes to a special high school that's like half the day is skiing and the other half is education and the goal of going to this school is like the first of its kind in the states but it's basically like it's basically grooming Olympic athletes. 45:37.240 --> 45:42.003 [SPEAKER_00]: So, she's very, very serious in this, you know, athletic endeavor. 45:42.803 --> 45:45.725 [SPEAKER_00]: She ends up having an injury when she's in high school. 45:45.745 --> 45:53.749 [SPEAKER_00]: She tears her ACL, then she goes to Dartmouth, where she's getting a degree in engineering, and she's also a part of the school's alpine ski team. 45:54.410 --> 46:02.094 [SPEAKER_00]: Sadly, she gets another tear in her ACL and that injury cuts her career short, her skiing career short. 46:02.854 --> 46:16.675 [SPEAKER_00]: with these athletes, she's very determined, she's very driven like that stuff just doesn't go away and so she moves from skiing to gravel cycling and she is 46:17.876 --> 46:23.502 [SPEAKER_00]: The goal is she wants to be a professional gravel bicyclist and she's doing very well. 46:24.082 --> 46:33.872 [SPEAKER_00]: While she's not full-time, not while she's not a full-time athlete just yet, she's working for specialized, which is a bike company so she's using her engineering degree. 46:34.292 --> 46:42.019 [SPEAKER_00]: to make sure that company is working and then eventually she does become a full-time cyclist and she's very supported by her family. 46:42.139 --> 46:56.732 [SPEAKER_00]: Her family is cheering her on and so she's doing a bunch of tournaments and she's also like talking to other cyclists to try and get sponsorship deals so she can go full-time and one of the guys she talks to is this guy Colin Strickland. 46:57.353 --> 47:05.227 [SPEAKER_00]: And he lives in Austin, Texas and Mo is 25 years old and she's been talking to Collin for a while. 47:05.307 --> 47:06.549 [SPEAKER_00]: So what you need to know about Collin? 47:07.450 --> 47:07.891 [SPEAKER_00]: Collin? 47:08.576 --> 47:12.099 [SPEAKER_00]: is very is also high in gravel racing. 47:12.419 --> 47:13.880 [SPEAKER_00]: He's very well known in the sport. 47:14.400 --> 47:20.184 [SPEAKER_00]: He is one of the athletes who've found a way to make it full time and he is sponsored by a bunch of people. 47:20.865 --> 47:31.352 [SPEAKER_00]: He is dating this woman Caitlin and him and Caitlin are on again off again and people will talk about how Colin kind of is known to be a little manipulative. 47:32.172 --> 47:47.381 [SPEAKER_00]: And so he's talking to Mo, who's 25, Caitlyn I think is 34 at this time, and the him and Caitlyn break up for like a week, Caitlyn moves into a room in the house, and I think Colin starts a romantic relationship with Mo. 47:48.522 --> 47:56.426 [SPEAKER_00]: Then he gets back together with Caitlyn, like it just all seems messy, and Mo has feelings for Colin, and she writes about it in her diary, 47:59.152 --> 48:12.560 [SPEAKER_00]: It's very soon that it all kind of falls apart, but they stay friends and he is keen on helping her build sponsorship opportunities and help her raise because she is a really amazing rising talent in this sport. 48:13.380 --> 48:19.264 [SPEAKER_00]: And it's very common for athletes to help other athletes get sponsorship opportunities. 48:19.764 --> 48:35.531 [SPEAKER_00]: And I think as a woman because they're not given the same amount of dollars, it's important for a man to sort of co-sign, which sounds, but Mo is like, okay, this romantic relationship didn't work, whatever let's move on, and the two of them are friends. 48:39.600 --> 49:04.593 [SPEAKER_00]: she goes to Austin for a bike race and it's May 11th, 2022 and she's staying with one of her best friends cash and so she's texting cash and she's like, hey, I'm actually going to meet Colin and we're going to go swimming in this like deep eddy in Austin and then grab dinner and so he's texting her where are you staying, she texts her address and then she sends a picture 49:08.795 --> 49:14.920 [SPEAKER_00]: They go to the deep eddy, they go to dinner, and then he drops her off at her house. 49:16.561 --> 49:28.150 [SPEAKER_00]: Her friend cash is coming home that night, and she gets home just before 10 o'clock in the evening, and she walks in, and she is met with a horrifying, a horrifying scene. 49:29.671 --> 49:32.613 [SPEAKER_00]: Mo is lying on the bathroom floor. 49:33.434 --> 49:35.676 [SPEAKER_00]: She has been shot twice in the head, 49:39.932 --> 49:46.877 [SPEAKER_00]: In this documentary, you hear the 911 call, and it is, it's horrifying. 49:47.497 --> 49:48.238 [SPEAKER_00]: It's horrifying. 49:48.998 --> 49:56.383 [SPEAKER_00]: The person on the call is informing her to do chest compressions until help comes, but Moe is not breathing. 49:57.764 --> 50:01.587 [SPEAKER_00]: There's footage of them taking cash out and talking to her, and 50:03.993 --> 50:06.714 [SPEAKER_00]: It's very soon that she's like, why is no ambulance coming? 50:06.754 --> 50:07.674 [SPEAKER_00]: Where's the ambulance? 50:07.714 --> 50:11.836 [SPEAKER_00]: Why is anyone coming to help Mo and they're like, Mo is gone? 50:13.576 --> 50:23.499 [SPEAKER_00]: And they take cash to the police and they start to interview her and ask her about her evening and it's very soon that she realizes, oh, they're, they're making a mess. 50:23.519 --> 50:24.980 [SPEAKER_00]: They're, I'm a suspect. 50:27.418 --> 50:32.042 [SPEAKER_00]: At one point in this interview, she asks, where is Mo? 50:32.382 --> 50:33.303 [SPEAKER_00]: Is she still home? 50:33.343 --> 50:34.323 [SPEAKER_00]: Is she still at my house? 50:34.384 --> 50:35.124 [SPEAKER_00]: Is she alone? 50:35.344 --> 50:36.465 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want her to be alone. 50:36.585 --> 50:38.126 [SPEAKER_00]: And they're like, our team is on it. 50:38.507 --> 50:39.788 [SPEAKER_00]: We don't want to make any mistakes. 50:39.808 --> 50:41.629 [SPEAKER_00]: We want to preserve what's happening. 50:42.450 --> 50:46.033 [SPEAKER_00]: And she has this breakdown where she goes, I want to make sure she's not alone. 50:46.173 --> 50:54.800 [SPEAKER_00]: And I have to say, I was like, my heart just broke for her friend to find her best friend in this horrible scene 50:57.362 --> 51:08.559 [SPEAKER_00]: And for the question to be as she going to be alone, I just, you can see her mind trying to protect her friend, even after it was too late, you know? 51:10.272 --> 51:23.044 [SPEAKER_00]: and they look at the crime scene and there's no forced entry or struggle, it seems like she might have known her attacker and that she sustained these gunshot wounds while lying on the floor. 51:24.365 --> 51:29.289 [SPEAKER_00]: They start to put together her night and with the help of cash, she's like, yeah, she went out with her friend Colin. 51:30.270 --> 51:45.610 [SPEAKER_00]: Now, her name is Anna Mariah, and so you see footage of them coming up to Colin at his house, and you see his driveway, and they're like, hey, do you know when Anna and he's like, no, and they're like, do you know a more Mariah, or whatever, and they're like, 51:46.450 --> 51:49.831 [SPEAKER_00]: He's like, they're like, he goes by Moe, he's like, yeah, and it's a little weird at first. 51:49.891 --> 51:58.414 [SPEAKER_00]: He's like, you just were with this girl last night, why aren't you saying, you know her, but maybe his brain would ever, but they're like, do you know Moe? 51:58.694 --> 52:05.057 [SPEAKER_00]: And he's like, yeah, I know Moe, and they inform him that she's gone and he kind of is processing it. 52:06.417 --> 52:08.860 [SPEAKER_00]: they bring him down to the station to start interviewing him. 52:09.621 --> 52:12.043 [SPEAKER_00]: They definitely think it's him who killed her, right? 52:12.123 --> 52:13.585 [SPEAKER_00]: He's the last person to see her. 52:14.365 --> 52:18.690 [SPEAKER_00]: And so they're interviewing him and he's like, I don't know anything. 52:18.790 --> 52:20.572 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know anyone that would want to hurt her. 52:20.592 --> 52:22.574 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know who would do this. 52:23.795 --> 52:45.803 [SPEAKER_00]: They're watching this interview and they're sending notes to this officer who's doing this interview and then They're also putting together like camera footage from the scene of the crime, and they see like a black car with a bike rack Pass her area multiple times in camera views in doorbell of cameras and they look back at the footage of 52:46.403 --> 52:54.327 [SPEAKER_00]: his house when they approached him and they see the same black car and they're like, okay, okay, we got him. 52:54.447 --> 52:55.127 [SPEAKER_00]: This is the guy. 52:55.928 --> 52:58.409 [SPEAKER_00]: And so they start to ask like, what is that black car? 52:58.529 --> 52:59.390 [SPEAKER_00]: Is that yours? 52:59.450 --> 53:01.170 [SPEAKER_00]: And he's like, no, no, no, it's my girlfriends. 53:02.071 --> 53:04.432 [SPEAKER_00]: And they're like, okay, and they're like, so who's your girlfriend? 53:04.452 --> 53:05.172 [SPEAKER_00]: What's going on? 53:05.192 --> 53:05.693 [SPEAKER_00]: Right. 53:05.933 --> 53:10.435 [SPEAKER_00]: And they start to look through his phone and they look at the texts from him and mo. 53:11.795 --> 53:14.717 [SPEAKER_00]: And they see that they're labeled a different name. 53:15.897 --> 53:17.178 [SPEAKER_00]: They're not labeled Mo. 53:17.799 --> 53:17.979 [SPEAKER_00]: Hmm. 53:18.779 --> 53:22.481 [SPEAKER_00]: He's changed the name and his contacts of Mo to another name. 53:23.682 --> 53:25.543 [SPEAKER_00]: And they're like, why did you do that? 53:25.623 --> 53:29.105 [SPEAKER_00]: And he was like, well, my girlfriend looks to my phone. 53:29.605 --> 53:31.286 [SPEAKER_00]: His girlfriend is Caitlyn Armstrong. 53:32.227 --> 53:33.508 [SPEAKER_00]: And she's grown up in Michigan. 53:34.388 --> 53:35.610 [SPEAKER_00]: And she's a yoga teacher. 53:35.690 --> 53:37.011 [SPEAKER_00]: She's a licensed realtor. 53:37.191 --> 53:38.492 [SPEAKER_00]: They've been dating for a long time. 53:38.693 --> 53:39.613 [SPEAKER_00]: They live together. 53:39.794 --> 53:42.296 [SPEAKER_00]: They're like financial partners in his business. 53:42.416 --> 53:43.837 [SPEAKER_00]: She's known as a finance guru. 53:43.857 --> 53:48.842 [SPEAKER_00]: So she's helping the finance of his work, of his trailer company. 53:49.843 --> 54:01.634 [SPEAKER_00]: and the two of them are dating and they're having this on again, off again, relationship, I'd mention when they were off, he sort of had this intimate relationship with Moe, and to be clear, it was when Caitlin was in the same house in another room. 54:02.134 --> 54:05.317 [SPEAKER_00]: Like not a good luck, not a good luck, really rare. 54:07.852 --> 54:17.457 [SPEAKER_00]: So him and Mo have this little romantic entanglement, but he's getting back with Caitlyn and Mo had previously been like, it's so weird. 54:17.597 --> 54:21.319 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm at a bar and the two of them are there and then he barely says hi to me. 54:21.399 --> 54:35.186 [SPEAKER_00]: It just seems very awkward and it doesn't seem like Mo was pursuing this guy, it seems he was a fan of hers and he was attracted to her and he was being a guy and not a good guy, you know what I mean? 54:36.567 --> 54:38.348 [SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of manipulating both women. 54:38.448 --> 54:40.449 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what he's saying to Caitlin privately. 54:41.329 --> 54:46.052 [SPEAKER_00]: Caitlin called Mo actually earlier that year and was like, hey, we're back together, so stay away from him. 54:46.598 --> 55:02.524 [SPEAKER_00]: Now, I gotta say, I've been in situations where if my I broken up with an X and then he's dated someone in the meantime and then got back and got back together with me, I would never, ever call her, no way. 55:02.644 --> 55:03.865 [SPEAKER_00]: That's not her problem. 55:04.505 --> 55:05.125 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry. 55:05.365 --> 55:06.646 [SPEAKER_00]: That's the man's problem. 55:06.786 --> 55:08.046 [SPEAKER_00]: That ain't her fucking deal. 55:09.787 --> 55:12.348 [SPEAKER_00]: So, it's just kind of a weird vibe, blah, blah, blah. 55:13.008 --> 55:28.993 [SPEAKER_00]: They police bring Caitlyn in to start talking to her, and she's talking to a female police officer, and the female police officer is doing a pretty by-the-book situation where it's like, hey, Collins, kind of like telling us all this, like, jealousy stuff, and like, we want to hear your side of the story. 55:29.093 --> 55:35.455 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, don't worry about, you know, and then Caitlyn very early is like, I don't think I should say anything without a lawyer present. 55:36.336 --> 55:39.459 [SPEAKER_00]: And the police officer is like, okay, you're not arrested. 55:39.539 --> 55:45.787 [SPEAKER_00]: You can go at any time But we want to hear your side of the story and if we're just left with like his side of the story Boo, boys. 55:45.867 --> 55:46.768 [SPEAKER_00]: It could be boys. 55:46.828 --> 55:47.790 [SPEAKER_00]: Like I love it. 55:48.090 --> 55:48.691 [SPEAKER_01]: I love it. 55:48.771 --> 55:51.074 [SPEAKER_01]: If the police officer I sounded just like that. 55:51.294 --> 55:53.877 [SPEAKER_01]: Do you know what I mean if he was like, oh, it's just like a people or 55:54.738 --> 55:58.499 [SPEAKER_01]: Spreading rumors about you and it's kind of like, I mean, I've grown to girl. 55:58.619 --> 56:00.700 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, well, like, what's like for you? 56:01.380 --> 56:04.781 [SPEAKER_00]: It didn't feel, I mean, it felt what I was watching the interrogation. 56:04.801 --> 56:06.122 [SPEAKER_00]: It felt a little like that. 56:06.202 --> 56:17.386 [SPEAKER_00]: Like it was like, you know what, you know, boys, and you're like, okay, well, and then Caitlyn is sitting like stone still and her yoga outfit going, I'd like to leave. 56:18.786 --> 56:19.446 [SPEAKER_01]: I'd like to leave. 56:20.687 --> 56:21.387 [SPEAKER_01]: I'd like to leave. 56:22.583 --> 56:36.829 [SPEAKER_00]: And so, eventually, she leaves, we just had this car, we don't have all this information, they're able to look at phone records later on, and they find that Caitlyn had turned off her phone around the time of the murder. 56:37.650 --> 56:43.632 [SPEAKER_00]: We have her car around there, and so what the police are trying to do is be like, okay, Colin, where were you during that time? 56:43.672 --> 56:47.834 [SPEAKER_00]: Cause they know when Mo was killed because there was a doorbell camera, 56:49.338 --> 56:55.124 [SPEAKER_00]: and they were able to hear screams and gunshots and so they know when the murder happened. 56:55.305 --> 56:59.309 [SPEAKER_00]: So because of that, they have a really accurate timeline. 56:59.910 --> 57:06.677 [SPEAKER_00]: So once they can exclude Colin from the investigation, they can then set their sights on Caitlyn and get her. 57:09.668 --> 57:28.724 [SPEAKER_00]: It's very soon that in this interrogation also, they ask if Colin has any weapons, and he says, yes, I have a pistol, and then it's soon that he discovers that Caitlyn also has a nine millimeter pistol, and at the crime scene when they've looked at the shell casings, they see that the shell casings come from a nine millimeter pistol. 57:29.224 --> 57:36.230 [SPEAKER_00]: So again, both of these suspects have access to a gun, both of them have access to this car and they're trying to figure out who was driving it. 57:37.930 --> 57:49.993 [SPEAKER_00]: They know that Colin had made a call to someone at his home, around the time of the murder, so it's very quick that they can exclude him from the suspect list, and so they have their sights set on Caitlyn. 57:50.733 --> 57:54.134 [SPEAKER_00]: While this is happening, they're also looking through Caitlyn and Colin's home. 57:54.354 --> 58:00.575 [SPEAKER_00]: They find the guns at their house, and they're able to shoot both guns 58:01.075 --> 58:14.245 [SPEAKER_00]: and compare the shell casings to those found at the scene of the crime and they find that Caitlyn's gun very closely matches the shell casings found at the scene of the crime. 58:14.345 --> 58:17.847 [SPEAKER_00]: So at this point they have enough evidence where they can arrest Caitlyn. 58:18.728 --> 58:27.574 [SPEAKER_00]: It's May 17th and an arrest warrant is issued and for first degree murder and they go to arrest Caitlyn and she is gone. 58:31.657 --> 58:34.159 [SPEAKER_00]: They're like, how can this woman have disappeared? 58:34.739 --> 58:39.622 [SPEAKER_00]: They're able to track her her activities. 58:39.662 --> 58:43.165 [SPEAKER_00]: What she's done is she sold the black car to car max. 58:44.285 --> 58:46.147 [SPEAKER_00]: So the car has gone, she now has money. 58:46.507 --> 58:49.128 [SPEAKER_00]: I guess Colin had given her a bunch of money for the business. 58:49.369 --> 58:51.210 [SPEAKER_00]: She now has a lump sum of cash. 58:52.070 --> 58:57.674 [SPEAKER_00]: We see her fly from Austin to Houston to New York, 59:02.339 --> 59:07.605 [SPEAKER_00]: We then see a woman that matches her appearance, get on a plane and fly to Costa Rica. 59:08.807 --> 59:13.452 [SPEAKER_00]: There's no evidence that Caitlin has left the country, but there is evidence that her sister has. 59:14.233 --> 59:16.356 [SPEAKER_00]: Caitlin has taken her sister's passport. 59:17.637 --> 59:19.258 [SPEAKER_00]: and has flown to Costa Rica. 59:20.458 --> 59:22.659 [SPEAKER_00]: At this point, there's a man hunt underway. 59:23.219 --> 59:24.519 [SPEAKER_00]: We need to figure out where she is. 59:24.620 --> 59:25.860 [SPEAKER_00]: She's definitely in Costa Rica. 59:25.900 --> 59:27.901 [SPEAKER_00]: We know she's a yoga teacher. 59:28.721 --> 59:33.323 [SPEAKER_00]: So they post an ad for a yoga teacher. 59:33.343 --> 59:34.363 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, smart. 59:34.803 --> 59:35.563 [SPEAKER_00]: On Facebook. 59:35.884 --> 59:36.524 [SPEAKER_00]: I love this. 59:37.464 --> 59:42.628 [SPEAKER_00]: She responds, they meet up with her, they see her, but she looks different. 59:43.229 --> 59:52.276 [SPEAKER_00]: She has dyed her hair to make her look closer to her sister, she's cut it short, and we see that she's had a nose job to look like her sister's passport. 59:54.117 --> 59:55.338 [SPEAKER_00]: She said plastic surgery. 59:57.273 --> 59:59.454 [SPEAKER_00]: She is extradited to the US. 01:00:00.174 --> 01:00:02.235 [SPEAKER_00]: She pleads not guilty to the murder charge. 01:00:02.395 --> 01:00:05.036 [SPEAKER_00]: She's held on a bond of $3.5 million. 01:00:05.956 --> 01:00:14.159 [SPEAKER_00]: While she's in jail, she has some sort of like medical thing that allows her to not wear chains on her feet. 01:00:14.259 --> 01:00:19.041 [SPEAKER_00]: And she's brought to the doctor by, she's escorted to the doctor by prison guards. 01:00:19.962 --> 01:00:24.026 [SPEAKER_00]: And from there she makes a run for it and she tries to escape them. 01:00:24.706 --> 01:00:40.422 [SPEAKER_00]: She runs a mile away and finally They they they get her but she makes an attempt to run so we know this woman is a flight risk She's reached she's reach heart she's recaptured and she's charged additionally with a scape causing bodily harm 01:00:41.343 --> 01:01:03.658 [SPEAKER_00]: Her trial starts October 30th, 2023, and they cover the trial in the documentary and cash testifies and talks about looking at Caitlyn and Caitlyn just being ice-colled, Colin testifies, and people talk about how he's like a shell of who he was, like he 01:01:09.183 --> 01:01:12.717 [SPEAKER_00]: The interview him later in the documentary and he will be 01:01:14.167 --> 01:01:16.148 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, he's like, I don't trust anyone. 01:01:17.028 --> 01:01:21.569 [SPEAKER_00]: I am so deeply ashamed for what I did to Mo, what I did to Caitlin. 01:01:21.629 --> 01:01:27.431 [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't like, and the thing is, it does seem like he was a part of this. 01:01:28.431 --> 01:01:32.912 [SPEAKER_00]: And like, I don't think he thought that Caitlin was going to murder this woman. 01:01:33.353 --> 01:01:34.013 [SPEAKER_00]: Do you know what I mean? 01:01:35.153 --> 01:01:41.015 [SPEAKER_00]: At the trial, it becomes clear that we see her, we see Caitlin's, 01:01:44.339 --> 01:01:53.984 [SPEAKER_00]: Caitlyn's route because what they did is, while her phone was off, they went to Carmax and they were able to find a GPS in her car so they could see what was happening. 01:01:54.644 --> 01:02:05.229 [SPEAKER_00]: And the day of the events unfolded as such, Colin was texting Moe to meet up and Moe was like, yeah, the name was changed, but his iPad was at home. 01:02:05.949 --> 01:02:21.099 [SPEAKER_00]: So, while the name was changed, it seems that Caitlyn was able to view their text exchange and when most sent a photo of herself writing a bike, it was confirmation to Caitlyn that he was talking to Mo, this woman he used to date. 01:02:22.320 --> 01:02:31.949 [SPEAKER_00]: Not only she sees the picture of Mo confirming that this person that Collin is talking to is Mo has also texted Collin her address where she is staying. 01:02:32.609 --> 01:02:33.330 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, shit. 01:02:33.770 --> 01:02:34.151 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 01:02:34.691 --> 01:02:36.633 [SPEAKER_00]: And so Caitlyn knows where Mo is staying. 01:02:37.434 --> 01:02:40.777 [SPEAKER_00]: Caitlyn then follows them in her car. 01:02:41.077 --> 01:02:44.000 [SPEAKER_00]: And you see her maybe going towards the Eddie towards the pool. 01:02:44.660 --> 01:02:59.419 [SPEAKER_00]: She changes her mind and then she starts circling mows neighborhood like you see her for hours Waiting for them to come home the two of them go to the pool go to the restaurant They come back on the motorcycle and she sees them. 01:03:00.200 --> 01:03:01.742 [SPEAKER_00]: She sees Colin leave 01:03:02.903 --> 01:03:03.884 [SPEAKER_00]: And she waits there. 01:03:04.205 --> 01:03:06.067 [SPEAKER_00]: She keeps driving around, driving around. 01:03:06.588 --> 01:03:09.732 [SPEAKER_00]: She parks near the alley, near where Moistang. 01:03:11.053 --> 01:03:15.379 [SPEAKER_00]: And you see the car break lights stop in front of her home. 01:03:21.734 --> 01:03:28.521 [SPEAKER_00]: It feels so shocking and a friend of Catelyn's will later say that when she asked her at a bar once. 01:03:28.541 --> 01:03:38.711 [SPEAKER_00]: She was like, what if Colin dated another girl and like with a straight face, her friend was like, while I'd kill her and it's so delicious. 01:03:38.811 --> 01:03:42.014 [SPEAKER_01]: She was being super weird. 01:03:42.054 --> 01:03:42.555 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes. 01:03:43.195 --> 01:03:44.477 [SPEAKER_00]: It's really wild to me. 01:03:47.007 --> 01:03:48.729 [SPEAKER_00]: So at the trial, she's found guilty. 01:03:48.889 --> 01:03:53.272 [SPEAKER_00]: She sent in to 90 years with the possibility for parole in 30. 01:03:54.033 --> 01:03:56.475 [SPEAKER_00]: Caitlyn is like so stoic. 01:03:56.795 --> 01:03:58.077 [SPEAKER_00]: She has no emotion. 01:03:59.017 --> 01:04:02.120 [SPEAKER_00]: Most mom will be like, when I look at her, I see stone. 01:04:02.400 --> 01:04:05.923 [SPEAKER_00]: I see, I just wonder, does she have any softness in her heart? 01:04:06.043 --> 01:04:06.424 [SPEAKER_00]: I just, 01:04:07.104 --> 01:04:14.908 [SPEAKER_00]: I see stone, Colin testifies at the trial and apparently he like avoids looking at Caitlyn at all costs. 01:04:14.988 --> 01:04:16.489 [SPEAKER_00]: He's looking down the whole time. 01:04:16.889 --> 01:04:18.190 [SPEAKER_00]: He's covering his face. 01:04:18.490 --> 01:04:23.853 [SPEAKER_00]: It just seems so, it just, well also the pain it's all past. 01:04:23.993 --> 01:04:28.055 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, somebody committing a murder because of their feelings toward you. 01:04:28.835 --> 01:04:32.117 [SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, that's not your fault, but I can imagine. 01:04:34.172 --> 01:04:43.334 [SPEAKER_00]: I wonder if he was like doing a dude thing too and like manipulating both of them, maybe not, maybe being like, you know, this, what is he, what is he telling Katelyn about Mo, that Mo's not doing? 01:04:43.434 --> 01:04:44.074 [SPEAKER_00]: Do you know what I mean? 01:04:44.454 --> 01:04:56.496 [SPEAKER_00]: Now, of course, that's not enough to indict him, but it does seem the shame of his actions and what's happened and the tragedy of it lives with him, you know, 01:05:04.679 --> 01:05:07.340 [SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, what was Caitlyn's motivation? 01:05:07.360 --> 01:05:12.541 [SPEAKER_00]: What's so crazy is, we know she stalked most neighborhood for hours. 01:05:13.282 --> 01:05:20.124 [SPEAKER_00]: We know that she, it wasn't a spur of the moment decision. 01:05:20.224 --> 01:05:26.006 [SPEAKER_00]: She sat with it in a car and got angry or it angered appears to where she took her life. 01:05:27.470 --> 01:05:36.794 [SPEAKER_00]: At the trial, most mom was able to speak directly to Caitlyn, and she said, when you shot my daughter in her heart, you shot me in mind. 01:05:36.814 --> 01:05:36.874 [SPEAKER_00]: No. 01:05:40.436 --> 01:05:50.045 [SPEAKER_00]: So tragic, the family, it's her parents and her brother, what we see in most families, do everything in their daughter and sister's honor. 01:05:50.666 --> 01:05:59.634 [SPEAKER_00]: They have the Mariah Wilson Foundation, which they established to support community building initiatives and expands access to outdoor sports. 01:06:00.254 --> 01:06:02.216 [SPEAKER_00]: They also organized a race in her honor. 01:06:02.897 --> 01:06:03.117 [SPEAKER_00]: It's... 01:06:04.358 --> 01:06:10.841 [SPEAKER_00]: It's so tragic, this story, and all over a man, like it just feels so gross. 01:06:12.001 --> 01:06:23.226 [SPEAKER_00]: Her family also filed a wrongful death lawsuit against Armstrong and the... Halder, her Caitlin is 34 and Mo was 25. 01:06:23.526 --> 01:06:24.526 [SPEAKER_00]: She was a young woman. 01:06:26.127 --> 01:06:39.907 [SPEAKER_00]: The judge rules in favor of most family obviously, and the family was seeking $1 million in damages, but the family ordered Caitlin to pay $15 million in damages to the Wilson family within three days that the wrongful lawsuit was filed. 01:06:41.049 --> 01:06:51.111 [SPEAKER_00]: Within three days of the wrongful death lawsuit filing, Caitlyn emptied her bank account and transferred her all of her assets to her mom, sister, and Colin. 01:06:51.872 --> 01:07:04.035 [SPEAKER_00]: And they're like, that's not allowed so most family filed an additional lawsuit against both Caitlyn, her relatives, and Colin alleging fraudulent transfer. 01:07:05.816 --> 01:07:08.960 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know where that ended up because that was back in 2024. 01:07:09.320 --> 01:07:11.563 [SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, I don't I don't know what's happened there. 01:07:11.703 --> 01:07:20.595 [SPEAKER_00]: But life time covered this case in ripped from the headlines Which I want to highlight because that's actually like that would have been our job that would have been our job to cover this. 01:07:20.755 --> 01:07:21.656 [SPEAKER_00]: Hey, that's our job. 01:07:22.724 --> 01:07:23.284 [SPEAKER_00]: That's our job. 01:07:23.684 --> 01:07:33.589 [SPEAKER_00]: But I just, this case was so, I mean, they're all, all of our cases are so sad, you know, like it's not, it's very rare that I find a case that is uplifting. 01:07:34.510 --> 01:07:42.654 [SPEAKER_00]: I think the tragedy of this one feels like over a fucking guy, you took someone's life, was it worth it? 01:07:42.834 --> 01:07:44.594 [SPEAKER_00]: And like, she destroyed her life. 01:07:44.975 --> 01:07:49.857 [SPEAKER_00]: She hurt so many people who loved Moe, what if I was really impactful in the documentary 01:07:52.098 --> 01:08:08.717 [SPEAKER_00]: moved back into her home where she found Caitlin and she talks about how she went to a store when she was debating if she would move back in and there's this little postcard that she just happened to find and there's a little bike in the corner and 01:08:09.497 --> 01:08:15.901 [SPEAKER_00]: And it says something I'm going to get it wrong, but it says something like I will always be there for you or something. 01:08:16.401 --> 01:08:22.565 [SPEAKER_00]: And she just was like, I want to imbue this home with joy, and I feel most presence there, because I remember the morning. 01:08:23.906 --> 01:08:31.670 [SPEAKER_00]: The morning, that morning before she died, she was like, we talked about life, we giggled, we talked about family and boys, I feel her presence in this house. 01:08:33.710 --> 01:08:45.552 [SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, that's the story of Mo Wilson, an incredibly promising athlete whose life was cut short because of murder. 01:08:45.592 --> 01:08:47.473 [SPEAKER_00]: Woman, yeah, because of murder. 01:08:47.693 --> 01:08:48.573 [SPEAKER_00]: It's so sad. 01:08:52.053 --> 01:08:53.034 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, thanks for sharing. 01:08:53.674 --> 01:08:54.194 [SPEAKER_00]: You're welcome. 01:08:55.734 --> 01:09:00.815 [SPEAKER_01]: I guess he'll be back soon, but I guess I won't see you, because it's sort of like a mad dash. 01:09:02.022 --> 01:09:02.963 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah. 01:09:03.063 --> 01:09:04.243 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I think I'm going to be back. 01:09:05.344 --> 01:09:11.688 [SPEAKER_00]: I think we just, I think we just, I think they might be cancelling one of our shows in Miami, which sucks because that's the one that my parents were going to go to. 01:09:11.788 --> 01:09:19.532 [SPEAKER_00]: And I was going to go to Florida right after and now I'm like, maybe I should just come to New York and spend like a week in New York, which also sounds. 01:09:19.552 --> 01:09:20.573 [SPEAKER_00]: I do live here. 01:09:20.593 --> 01:09:21.273 [SPEAKER_01]: I do live there. 01:09:21.994 --> 01:09:22.894 [SPEAKER_00]: I pay right there. 01:09:23.054 --> 01:09:23.755 [SPEAKER_01]: I pay right there. 01:09:25.133 --> 01:09:25.794 [SPEAKER_00]: Ha ha! 01:09:25.874 --> 01:09:26.974 [SPEAKER_00]: No, I don't pretend I live there. 01:09:26.994 --> 01:09:33.379 [SPEAKER_00]: It's just been a crazy, I just did a European thing where I left for a month in August and now I'm working hard for the money. 01:09:33.819 --> 01:09:35.180 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so hard we're a honey. 01:09:36.020 --> 01:09:36.681 [SPEAKER_00]: We'll come on back. 01:09:36.721 --> 01:09:37.221 [SPEAKER_00]: We miss you. 01:09:37.822 --> 01:09:38.302 [SPEAKER_00]: I miss you too. 01:09:38.942 --> 01:09:40.223 [SPEAKER_00]: Deerators, we miss you. 01:09:40.463 --> 01:09:42.405 [SPEAKER_00]: And I will post this on Friday. 01:09:42.685 --> 01:09:44.006 [SPEAKER_00]: Just mark the way it were. 01:09:44.046 --> 01:09:44.766 [SPEAKER_00]: It's I'm going to do it. 01:09:44.786 --> 01:09:45.106 [SPEAKER_00]: Stop going. 01:09:45.126 --> 01:09:45.547 [SPEAKER_00]: Stop yelling. 01:09:46.027 --> 01:09:46.828 [SPEAKER_00]: Stop yelling. 01:09:46.848 --> 01:09:48.309 [SPEAKER_01]: Stop. 01:09:48.469 --> 01:09:49.029 [UNKNOWN]: Stop. 01:09:49.189 --> 01:09:49.409 [UNKNOWN]: Stop. 01:09:50.490 --> 01:09:51.010 [SPEAKER_01]: Stop it. 01:09:51.351 --> 01:09:51.851 [SPEAKER_01]: Table flip. 01:09:55.205 --> 01:09:58.549 [SPEAKER_00]: Bye, do you leave it?