WEBVTT 00:01.773 --> 00:03.335 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, we're going live. 00:07.079 --> 00:09.001 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, Kevin, they're going to kill your dogs. 00:09.242 --> 00:11.324 [SPEAKER_00]: No, they're going to do it. 00:11.404 --> 00:13.146 [SPEAKER_00]: Do they give us any notice at least? 00:13.246 --> 00:15.449 [SPEAKER_00]: Like how many days before they kill my dogs? 00:15.729 --> 00:16.510 [SPEAKER_02]: 10 days. 00:18.145 --> 00:22.730 [SPEAKER_02]: They said that if we don't Dude fuck I hate this. 00:23.311 --> 00:35.843 [SPEAKER_02]: I hate this planet that we live on Yeah, so fire department gonna kill Kevin's dogs if we don't clean We already clean, but then they came now and it's a new guy and he's like you didn't clean it off and I was like we didn't clean it out for you Pulls out is 00:36.605 --> 00:38.267 [SPEAKER_02]: Fucking range finder man. 00:38.287 --> 00:47.520 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I pulled this range finder out and I was like of fuck and you already said to me later I was trying to be so respectful I could barely hold it He was like well, they're not gonna come out like tape measures and shit now. 00:47.540 --> 00:49.923 [SPEAKER_02]: I almost fucking said I was like, well, you've right our range finder 00:51.932 --> 01:06.843 [SPEAKER_02]: And you know like you got a trim trees to like six feet you got to trim all the branches to six feet Yeah, but then at some point they realized I was fucking stupid and so they changed to six feet or like one third of the height Because there's a several trees here that if you trimmed them to six feet It's just gonna look like a penis. 01:06.863 --> 01:08.624 [SPEAKER_00]: A little puff ball up top. 01:08.664 --> 01:10.665 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and like 01:11.726 --> 01:39.201 [SPEAKER_02]: I was like, well, all the native plants and you just like, oh, they're fire hazard, they got to go and it's like, all right, so I'm going to, we're going to like have to like, yeah, and then you look up at the mountain behind us covered in dead dry, like giant bushes, oh, and like I, you know what I love the government and I'm being completely sarcastic and facetious right now, I fucking hate it, and there's like a drainage easement that like collapse, right? 01:40.141 --> 01:41.202 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, I know what you're talking about. 01:41.222 --> 01:48.345 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, there's like this whole concrete drainage thing that has like a roof or like a lid on it in the whole thing collapsed and it like sat there and I was just like, you know what? 01:48.505 --> 01:49.845 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not, I don't want to deal with this. 01:50.506 --> 01:55.848 [SPEAKER_02]: And so then like a couple months later, there's like a crew building a fence around. 01:55.868 --> 02:00.910 [SPEAKER_02]: It's like basically it's like the sidewalk and then there's the the weed farm that we run. 02:00.990 --> 02:03.691 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry, it's not that it's the the shrub. 02:04.132 --> 02:05.132 [SPEAKER_02]: Not not marijuana. 02:05.172 --> 02:05.772 [SPEAKER_02]: How do I say that? 02:07.333 --> 02:11.978 [SPEAKER_02]: That sounded way cool and it actually is and and they just fence it off. 02:11.998 --> 02:17.625 [SPEAKER_02]: So there's like there's literally a fence that goes into like it's like a rectangle along the sidewalk. 02:17.645 --> 02:19.346 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's like blocked off. 02:20.103 --> 02:26.849 [SPEAKER_00]: And it's collapsed, like, but eight foot deep like sinkhole pit and it's completely like overgrown with shrubs. 02:27.190 --> 02:29.111 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and it's been there for three years now. 02:29.272 --> 02:34.416 [SPEAKER_02]: And like, oh, so nobody fucking cares about the shrubs here because it's like the city's problem. 02:34.857 --> 02:39.941 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like, oh, for me, I've got like, I didn't trim enough away. 02:39.961 --> 02:41.643 [SPEAKER_02]: Like a hundred feet from houses do. 02:41.683 --> 02:43.845 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so he's like, oh, you got to go next to 20 feet. 02:44.005 --> 02:44.886 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so he like, whips out. 02:44.906 --> 02:47.868 [SPEAKER_02]: So like, the hierarchy, I hired a gardening crew, right? 02:48.348 --> 02:51.651 [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, we're cheap and poor because we spent all my money on an open sauce. 02:52.091 --> 02:56.375 [SPEAKER_02]: And so like, for the past couple of years, they're like, worked for the fire department. 02:56.395 --> 02:57.776 [SPEAKER_02]: And then we like, a higher crew. 02:57.796 --> 03:01.779 [SPEAKER_02]: And like, this year I spent like $2400 for like a weekend. 03:01.919 --> 03:02.259 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 03:02.460 --> 03:06.803 [SPEAKER_02]: And they basically weed whack everything, which the fire department calls weed whip, which I think is cool. 03:06.983 --> 03:13.885 [SPEAKER_02]: and they like, you know, we trimmed a bunch of trees and then they like throw all the debris just into the into the weed farm, right? 03:13.905 --> 03:19.886 [SPEAKER_02]: Because like, why the fuck would I pay money to have the debris called off somewhere when you could just throw it a fucking pile? 03:20.886 --> 03:25.787 [SPEAKER_02]: And, um, and now it's like, all the rules have changed. 03:26.007 --> 03:28.468 [SPEAKER_02]: Pray I change them no farther. 03:29.872 --> 03:32.975 [SPEAKER_02]: And now it's like, you got to do that. 03:33.035 --> 03:35.837 [SPEAKER_02]: And I was just at a few months ago. 03:35.857 --> 03:38.719 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's like, so you know the most fuck part of the whole thing, right? 03:38.799 --> 03:43.703 [SPEAKER_02]: It's like, uh, that this is due in like mayor, the end of May beginning of June. 03:43.983 --> 03:49.007 [SPEAKER_02]: And so he did it in May, and I get a letter in July that's like, we're going to kill Kevin's doc. 03:49.367 --> 03:51.108 [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, fuck, there's only one person. 03:51.129 --> 03:53.110 [SPEAKER_02]: Unless you have a friend to kill Kevin's doc. 03:53.190 --> 03:53.891 [SPEAKER_02]: It's, it's the, 03:57.153 --> 03:57.973 [SPEAKER_02]: for the swearing. 03:57.993 --> 04:03.215 [SPEAKER_02]: And, and, and, and, well, why do they threaten the kill Kevin's dogs? 04:03.315 --> 04:06.616 [SPEAKER_02]: The fire department, this is the price you have to pay if you don't abate. 04:06.856 --> 04:09.457 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, or like $2,000 for their crew to come out. 04:09.477 --> 04:09.677 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 04:09.957 --> 04:15.459 [SPEAKER_02]: They said, yeah, if you can't bait, we'll send our master bader out and it'll abate, they'll master abate your property. 04:16.260 --> 04:19.821 [SPEAKER_02]: And, um, so he's like, oh, I can give you like 10 days. 04:25.762 --> 04:36.109 [SPEAKER_02]: Dude, and then you asked for it, you're like, you know, 30 days and he's like, well, I'll go over our old Sundays and he's like younger than me too, which is like in more infuriating. 04:36.589 --> 04:40.572 [SPEAKER_02]: And, and it's like, this is literally deep Nigel, do you see Kevin Aranad? 04:40.592 --> 04:42.513 [SPEAKER_02]: Do we look dry or soft and wet? 04:45.087 --> 04:45.707 [SPEAKER_02]: You look normal. 04:45.907 --> 04:49.969 [SPEAKER_02]: It's hard to tell liver video because he never looks at the, he never looks at us because he thinks we're discussed. 04:49.989 --> 04:50.389 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, number one. 04:50.409 --> 04:52.370 [SPEAKER_02]: It's like 10 times as much work as I did every day. 04:52.450 --> 04:52.890 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 04:53.390 --> 04:59.673 [SPEAKER_02]: This is the hot there just because you have perfect skin and ever sweat, doesn't mean to be clear. 04:59.693 --> 05:00.073 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 05:00.173 --> 05:03.995 [SPEAKER_01]: I said you look normal for you guys, boy. 05:04.015 --> 05:04.355 [SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm. 05:06.116 --> 05:07.416 [SPEAKER_01]: So it could mean a lot of things. 05:07.716 --> 05:08.136 [SPEAKER_02]: It's 100 degrees. 05:10.085 --> 05:22.277 [SPEAKER_02]: at like 40% humidity we're like straight up Florida weather like nothing no building here is meant for this like every time you get a day like this you're the really lucky and have like a kick ass air conditioner which the one in the window here is running on for a dear life 05:24.021 --> 05:25.643 [SPEAKER_02]: Has not turned off the entire time. 05:25.923 --> 05:27.744 [SPEAKER_00]: No, and it's making a different. 05:28.064 --> 05:30.827 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't care as long as I'm Was shooting out something colder than the inside. 05:30.867 --> 05:48.161 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's gonna keep making that noise and so it's like Imagine imagine It's like literally the hottest day of like what five years Yeah, it hasn't been this hot here for a long ass time and you're talking to a guy outside just telling you've got 10 days to do a fuck Kind of yard work. 05:48.201 --> 05:51.683 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like Gonna nitpicked a worst fucking day 05:52.464 --> 06:06.026 [SPEAKER_00]: to go over this with me fuck dude it's so hot out right now i was in the garage using my laser cutter yeah and it kept turning off because like the water cooler couldn't keep up with just the ambient air temperature so it was like over-tempo over-tempo 06:06.987 --> 06:08.807 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's, well, water cooler do you have? 06:08.887 --> 06:10.928 [SPEAKER_01]: Is it like, um, a piece of one? 06:10.948 --> 06:11.308 [SPEAKER_01]: Or is it? 06:11.428 --> 06:13.528 [SPEAKER_00]: No, it's like, actually, it's like a refrigeration. 06:13.548 --> 06:16.069 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's like built into the laser unit. 06:16.189 --> 06:18.029 [SPEAKER_02]: So half the power of the, I know. 06:18.829 --> 06:19.469 [SPEAKER_02]: Dear God. 06:19.489 --> 06:22.230 [SPEAKER_00]: So the whole garage was probably like 110 degrees. 06:23.050 --> 06:23.950 [SPEAKER_00]: So I kept it to workloads. 06:23.990 --> 06:25.090 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, oh, it's going to be cooler. 06:25.590 --> 06:29.991 [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, now imagine standing outside with a weed wipper. 06:31.011 --> 06:31.391 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 06:31.771 --> 06:32.411 [SPEAKER_02]: And this weather. 06:33.252 --> 06:35.212 [SPEAKER_02]: It's only an extra 20 feet across 06:36.842 --> 07:05.183 [SPEAKER_02]: a thousand people do that all day well so people do that all but I don't I didn't sign up for that and then not a change in the goddamn rules I mean I get it like everyone's house burns down and sucks shit I went through before but like you should see the plants that they don't tell you that you have to trim down because they're like old and legacy or ornamental whatever and it's like don't literally the most flammable plan on the plant that you could lift this like fucking 60 foot tall you lift this year yeah you like you look at them the wrong way and they got 07:06.978 --> 07:08.398 [SPEAKER_01]: It's not even native. 07:08.798 --> 07:10.279 [SPEAKER_01]: They're just filled with oil or something. 07:10.319 --> 07:19.121 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, you know, like, a eucalyptus tree is actually like the perfect plant to like engulf a town in flames. 07:19.481 --> 07:19.761 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 07:20.001 --> 07:22.322 [SPEAKER_02]: The bark, the bark peels off. 07:22.422 --> 07:25.922 [SPEAKER_02]: It's like what you think like a cinnamon tree looks like when they peel the bark out. 07:26.102 --> 07:27.923 [SPEAKER_02]: It comes off like big pieces of cinnamon. 07:27.963 --> 07:30.524 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, kind of flakes falls onto the ground. 07:30.564 --> 07:32.644 [SPEAKER_02]: And like, how do you make Tinder for a paper? 07:32.784 --> 07:33.964 [SPEAKER_02]: It's like, you know, it's like, it's like, 07:37.285 --> 07:38.246 [SPEAKER_00]: Fire cardboard. 07:38.266 --> 07:38.806 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 07:38.866 --> 07:40.447 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's a good description. 07:40.907 --> 07:57.096 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, like fire start like a Tinder you like take a piece of wood or something And you just like you like shave off like splinters of it and the tree that you could look just tree is like It makes its own it like literally like on dresses like Tinder falling off at like the base level 07:57.971 --> 08:00.353 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think that's part of it's like strategy, right? 08:00.713 --> 08:02.735 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it's like, like, like, life cycle. 08:03.075 --> 08:08.579 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, no, not life cycle, but it out competes all the other trees in the forest by burning them down. 08:08.679 --> 08:10.181 [SPEAKER_02]: Dude, there's a pine tree, right? 08:10.201 --> 08:13.543 [SPEAKER_02]: There's a pine tree that doesn't, like, the seeds don't open or something. 08:13.583 --> 08:16.686 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, I think those are, like, the redwood trees are, like, the Sequoia's. 08:16.906 --> 08:17.326 [SPEAKER_02]: Right? 08:17.346 --> 08:17.987 [SPEAKER_02]: Something like that. 08:18.247 --> 08:20.689 [SPEAKER_02]: And now, and so I'm, I just, I'm like, I actually, I, 08:22.290 --> 08:36.476 [SPEAKER_02]: I get it, but it's very frustrating, because imagine somebody looking you straight in the face and everything that you've done over the past couple of years that you spend, you know, 1,500 bucks to do like a big abatement. 08:36.577 --> 08:40.598 [SPEAKER_02]: And then that is cheap because you're cheap-ass and you still do like half the work yourself. 08:40.798 --> 08:42.979 [SPEAKER_02]: And like the only reason you can do that is because you have this track. 08:43.620 --> 08:46.241 [SPEAKER_02]: So imagine they're like you basically are like $5,000 worth of abatement. 08:51.083 --> 08:52.866 [SPEAKER_02]: do it again, do another five of those. 08:53.166 --> 08:56.891 [SPEAKER_02]: And you're like, do I have any like negotiating power here? 08:56.931 --> 08:57.852 [SPEAKER_02]: And it's like, no. 08:58.293 --> 09:02.218 [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, are there any community programs to like, at least haul the shit away? 09:02.238 --> 09:02.339 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 09:02.799 --> 09:03.901 [SPEAKER_02]: It's like, I don't know. 09:06.233 --> 09:07.294 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, fuck. 09:07.934 --> 09:14.937 [SPEAKER_00]: And I remember like last time it was, it was a problem getting landscapeers out because, you know, they go tell, they tell everybody you need to do your fire abatement. 09:15.137 --> 09:16.658 [SPEAKER_00]: So all the landscapes are busy. 09:16.878 --> 09:19.639 [SPEAKER_00]: And then you have 10 days and you can't find any landscapes. 09:19.759 --> 09:21.280 [SPEAKER_00]: And then you just have to do all the work yourself. 09:21.420 --> 09:30.044 [SPEAKER_02]: Do you remember, um, when, did I ever tell you the first quote that I got for Trim and Eucalyptus trees because they were like, there was actually terrifying how, like, why they were? 09:30.064 --> 09:30.884 [SPEAKER_00]: It was like 20 to 2000. 09:31.024 --> 09:31.384 [SPEAKER_00]: Wow. 09:34.749 --> 09:37.111 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I was like, it sounds like a steel man. 09:37.131 --> 09:54.749 [SPEAKER_02]: Dude, they are stealing and I like I actually didn't even respond and I ended up getting two guys that like work in like like the logging industry, they like came down from NorCal and they like just climbed the trees and I was like just dump the branches on the ground. 09:55.289 --> 09:55.570 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 09:56.108 --> 10:14.262 [SPEAKER_02]: Just leave them on the ground don't do anything out just cut them and drop them and that's what they did And so for like four days straight The charge like 2500 always a day they just cut and drop cut and drop cut and dropped and then I just hauled everything into the piles and like that's where those piles came from That's awesome. 10:14.503 --> 10:17.305 [SPEAKER_00]: Do they like come down just for your for the job? 10:17.665 --> 10:21.228 [SPEAKER_02]: Wow, dude Two guys getting paid yeah 10,000 for four. 10:21.268 --> 10:23.269 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, basically five thousand for four days. 10:23.329 --> 10:24.410 [SPEAKER_02]: It's like that's a great deal 10:25.925 --> 10:48.073 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, but they're like, dude, they were like freaking Tarzan man, they were just like, you know, they were they had like the ropes and everything they had climbing gear They're like the nice still chainsaws Yeah, they would like it would they'd like leave them running, but they're hanging from them and so they would just like you know They're like climbing and it's like yeah, and then they would even like lower the logs nicely to the ground They had like a like a a zipline. 10:48.093 --> 10:53.875 [SPEAKER_02]: They would like tie a line off and then it's a carabine that I would have like the pink carabine Just gonna go up and he'd like 10:54.655 --> 11:09.060 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he would hook them on to the line to the zipline before he cut them all the way Oh, he would hook them at like tie him off tie it to the to the get it on the little zipline and then he would Boop and then it was just That's awesome. 11:09.540 --> 11:10.060 [SPEAKER_02]: They were good. 11:10.080 --> 11:19.064 [SPEAKER_02]: They were really good And now Honestly at this point I was like I could just like cut everything down and you didn't say no And I was like all right. 11:19.084 --> 11:19.504 [SPEAKER_02]: I'll do it. 11:19.744 --> 11:19.904 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah 11:21.028 --> 11:27.281 [SPEAKER_02]: I asked about, I was like, what about this like this native river grass here, and he was just like, if it's a fire hazard. 11:29.448 --> 11:30.689 [SPEAKER_02]: I did figure out how to get more than 10 days. 11:31.369 --> 11:31.669 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah. 11:31.829 --> 11:32.029 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 11:32.049 --> 11:35.231 [SPEAKER_02]: I was like, well, like, who are the, the contractors that you normally do? 11:35.251 --> 11:43.674 [SPEAKER_02]: And he's like, well, if people don't do, they're, the work they're supposed to do, then we, we hire contractor and then we, like, charge an admin fee. 11:43.694 --> 11:46.315 [SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, oh, it's like the contractors know, like, what to do? 11:46.355 --> 11:48.436 [SPEAKER_02]: Because you're being, this is like, very ambiguous right now. 11:48.456 --> 11:51.858 [SPEAKER_02]: And you're kind of just leaving it open ended so that it's my fucking problem when I do enough. 11:52.558 --> 11:56.283 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, and so I've like added some bureaucracy days where he has to respond to me now. 11:56.303 --> 12:06.915 [SPEAKER_02]: It's like the structure that we have in sauce is, uh, you just sort of like, like, you just keep passing the ball around and you can pretty much wait like a day and a half or two between emails. 12:07.295 --> 12:10.920 [SPEAKER_02]: And so that 10 days like you blink and next thing you know, it's been three months. 12:10.980 --> 12:11.260 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 12:13.042 --> 12:25.336 [SPEAKER_02]: And they're like, yeah, okay, yeah, 10 days, but let me just ask you something first before we go, you know, Yeah, well, just for clarification, you wanted this, this and you like, oh, mid half of it and I'll be like, oh, no, well, actually you're off and then two days like that. 12:27.698 --> 12:28.779 [SPEAKER_02]: That's horrible. 12:28.999 --> 12:36.882 [SPEAKER_02]: Listen, dude, you have you ever heard of how Boeing and these big, okay, all right, I'm going to, I know that's, I know where you get this from is your dad. 12:37.363 --> 12:41.925 [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, no, my dad's, no, because you were, you remember his, he had this like, uh, RV. 12:42.805 --> 13:09.496 [SPEAKER_00]: Adon on the side of his house like a big what like like a car for the RV that was up for like 15 years we got into a fight with the neighbor and then the neighbor reported to the county and then he he technically hadn't done it right and they told him that he has to tear down the car for the mafia every day but well he figured out how to pause the fees and like get it for three years by just emailing them and making them respond like questions about everything three years 13:09.996 --> 13:11.257 [SPEAKER_02]: Do that's that was shit. 13:11.277 --> 13:18.285 [SPEAKER_02]: That was that was total BS like he couldn't get the engineering report from the original company They were like two of them cuz like oh, it's too old and I'm gonna go to you. 13:18.766 --> 13:19.386 [SPEAKER_00]: Your dad's good. 13:19.807 --> 13:21.068 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he really yeah, he really. 13:21.288 --> 13:26.975 [SPEAKER_02]: He really Yeah, he did But no, these these companies like the bigger the company 13:27.735 --> 13:32.398 [SPEAKER_02]: the higher the likelihood they are to just like avoid paying you for like three months. 13:32.418 --> 13:37.141 [SPEAKER_02]: So I worked at a small company and they made some fancy sensors. 13:37.161 --> 13:41.223 [SPEAKER_02]: He's like optical encoders, non-magnetic, and that was one of them. 13:41.503 --> 13:45.866 [SPEAKER_02]: But like really cool optical absolute encoders and other stuff that was using like 13:46.862 --> 13:50.103 [SPEAKER_02]: like a multi-spec troll light. 13:51.203 --> 13:53.544 [SPEAKER_02]: So it's like based on the orientation of the disc. 13:54.024 --> 13:55.744 [SPEAKER_02]: You could like separate the wavelength. 13:56.125 --> 13:56.785 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's cool. 13:56.805 --> 13:58.745 [SPEAKER_02]: So you could like, you could basically take like the barcode. 13:58.765 --> 13:59.706 [SPEAKER_02]: Like a color wheel. 13:59.766 --> 14:00.266 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, yeah. 14:00.386 --> 14:01.786 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, not a color wheel, so it's a barcode. 14:01.826 --> 14:03.427 [SPEAKER_02]: It's like a unique barcode. 14:03.467 --> 14:04.027 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, okay. 14:04.147 --> 14:07.868 [SPEAKER_02]: You shine, you like spread out and shine a bandwidth through it. 14:08.508 --> 14:18.533 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, and then that bandwidth gets piped back via phyropdic and then it gets compressed and you re-expanded onto a photo sensor and so basically like every pixel is like a different nanometer. 14:18.874 --> 14:21.915 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, it's like those things like diffraction grading. 14:21.955 --> 14:22.576 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, kind of thing. 14:22.616 --> 14:23.036 [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah. 14:23.176 --> 14:27.778 [SPEAKER_02]: So like really anyways, so there's like some you know like avionic stuff. 14:28.299 --> 14:30.220 [SPEAKER_02]: First it's like a four person company. 14:31.000 --> 14:31.180 [SPEAKER_02]: And 14:33.121 --> 15:00.477 [SPEAKER_02]: like Boeing was apparently one where you would there was like a hole like a dance you'd have to do to get paid and it was like you would like have to send basically three invoices you'd have to send an invoice every 30 days and by the third invoice then they would finally pay if you didn't send an invoice you sent it at 60 days then it would be like 120 days by the time you got like oh yeah so like it was like basically 90 days was the fastest you could get paid by one of these big 15:01.377 --> 15:07.502 [SPEAKER_02]: Like the the bigger the company like the better they are at like tracking it out for whatever fucked up reason Yeah, the ones that have the most money. 15:07.522 --> 15:11.766 [SPEAKER_02]: You're like the most likely to not want to And you don't want to mess with them either. 15:11.926 --> 15:13.327 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, you can't what you're gonna do. 15:13.367 --> 15:26.577 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you can't really do anything You're sort of hose is like the little guy But no, that's that's like I think I'm I need to certain employing that that like bowing Yeah energy or my dad got it like I got I got I got a focus that 15:27.437 --> 15:31.420 [SPEAKER_02]: And I got a, like, at this point, you know what they've done, they've, like, made it a challenge. 15:32.901 --> 15:33.241 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah. 15:33.321 --> 15:34.062 [SPEAKER_00]: We should keep it going. 15:34.082 --> 15:34.742 [SPEAKER_00]: See how long? 15:34.822 --> 15:36.724 [SPEAKER_00]: Because if we push it to next year, then it's one. 15:36.744 --> 15:37.544 [SPEAKER_00]: No, I do. 15:37.564 --> 15:40.066 [SPEAKER_00]: They're going to kill my dogs by the end of next podcast. 15:40.847 --> 15:43.308 [SPEAKER_01]: They're your dogs. 15:44.049 --> 15:47.371 [SPEAKER_01]: If this is your plan, shouldn't you not be publicly stating it? 15:47.391 --> 15:49.693 [SPEAKER_02]: Dude, there is no way. 15:50.213 --> 15:53.315 [SPEAKER_02]: That would be so embarrassing when they, if they listen to it, they don't. 15:53.436 --> 15:53.896 [SPEAKER_02]: Don't worry. 15:55.317 --> 16:01.282 [SPEAKER_02]: Listen, bite me, Kevin's dogs are here, I'll tell you where they are. 16:01.582 --> 16:03.944 [SPEAKER_02]: I'll unlock the door at no, I'll let you in. 16:05.765 --> 16:08.207 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, anyways, that's my, that was today. 16:09.328 --> 16:11.009 [SPEAKER_00]: What, how is your today, Ben Nigel? 16:11.029 --> 16:12.290 [SPEAKER_00]: You said you're, you're kind of sick. 16:12.571 --> 16:13.151 [SPEAKER_00]: You're sick. 16:14.612 --> 16:16.634 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, sick of you guys. 16:17.655 --> 16:17.795 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh. 16:19.743 --> 16:20.184 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know. 16:20.244 --> 16:20.884 [SPEAKER_02]: I just don't know. 16:20.904 --> 16:21.625 [SPEAKER_02]: It's just really great. 16:21.945 --> 16:22.706 [SPEAKER_02]: John says wait. 16:23.947 --> 16:24.728 [SPEAKER_02]: He's so shit. 16:25.609 --> 16:26.389 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah. 16:30.771 --> 16:33.294 [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, no, I started feeling a bit off a couple days ago. 16:33.594 --> 16:35.476 [SPEAKER_01]: Thankfully, it's not getting too bad. 16:35.497 --> 16:38.159 [SPEAKER_01]: I feel kind of crappy to get today, but it's fine. 16:38.360 --> 16:39.261 [SPEAKER_01]: You're looking worse. 16:39.281 --> 16:41.002 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that explains that. 16:41.123 --> 16:41.984 [SPEAKER_01]: I think it was just good. 16:42.084 --> 16:43.165 [SPEAKER_00]: It was just just birthday. 16:43.185 --> 16:44.526 [SPEAKER_02]: You're, oh, is your birthday, hold you. 16:45.627 --> 16:46.328 [SPEAKER_01]: That's 35. 16:46.428 --> 16:48.891 [SPEAKER_01]: They may just, you say, may just you guys. 16:49.031 --> 16:50.232 [SPEAKER_02]: No, couldn't tell. 16:51.748 --> 16:55.412 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, I literally have done nothing today. 16:56.053 --> 16:57.034 [SPEAKER_02]: It's a lot. 16:57.074 --> 16:57.354 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah. 16:57.695 --> 16:58.335 [SPEAKER_02]: I can't do anything. 16:58.355 --> 16:59.076 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what to do. 16:59.096 --> 16:59.216 [SPEAKER_00]: No. 16:59.457 --> 17:02.620 [SPEAKER_00]: They've seen my house running continuously and I set it to 80 degrees. 17:03.040 --> 17:03.941 [SPEAKER_00]: Dude. 17:04.001 --> 17:04.662 [SPEAKER_00]: 78 or something. 17:05.002 --> 17:05.243 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 17:05.463 --> 17:11.289 [SPEAKER_02]: I can't work on the soda machine because everything in there is a heater and I can't add more heat to this place. 17:11.710 --> 17:12.150 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 17:12.190 --> 17:12.851 [SPEAKER_02]: I can't do anything. 17:12.911 --> 17:13.512 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know to either. 17:15.217 --> 17:21.882 [SPEAKER_01]: That's probably one thing that I find funny about maybe not California as a whole, but I think almost California as a whole. 17:23.043 --> 17:34.373 [SPEAKER_01]: They because it's so mild, the weather's so mild year round, I've gone there and when like you're what you're describing, just how everything's built, 17:35.628 --> 17:37.869 [SPEAKER_01]: And it's built for that mild weather. 17:37.909 --> 17:45.293 [SPEAKER_01]: So when you go there and it's a heat wave, you just die because half the stuff is just doesn't even have walls, because it's just open to the environment. 17:46.154 --> 17:48.495 [SPEAKER_01]: And then when it's really cold, there's no heating. 17:48.895 --> 17:52.997 [SPEAKER_01]: I remember when we went down, and it was just like a very, I went down. 17:53.037 --> 17:55.179 [SPEAKER_01]: There's a very, it was a very weird cold snap. 17:55.639 --> 17:58.160 [SPEAKER_01]: And it's when we went to do the podcast with Vsauce. 17:59.121 --> 17:59.581 [SPEAKER_01]: And, uh, 18:00.901 --> 18:05.744 [SPEAKER_01]: He was like, look, I'm sorry, this is just kind of what it is. 18:05.804 --> 18:08.826 [SPEAKER_01]: It's just kind of cold, like, it sucks. 18:09.006 --> 18:10.487 [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm just like, not cold. 18:10.507 --> 18:11.408 [SPEAKER_01]: It's freezing. 18:12.228 --> 18:13.129 [SPEAKER_01]: No, I was freezing. 18:13.149 --> 18:14.249 [SPEAKER_01]: You were freezing. 18:14.710 --> 18:16.691 [SPEAKER_01]: Because in Canada, you should be used to it. 18:16.711 --> 18:18.392 [SPEAKER_01]: You're at least in Lebanon in the ice. 18:18.532 --> 18:22.835 [SPEAKER_01]: It was in Montreal because the weather fluctuates so much. 18:23.840 --> 18:29.123 [SPEAKER_01]: We just have a lot of places just have AC and heating and then the houses are built insulated. 18:29.563 --> 18:34.706 [SPEAKER_01]: So it's pretty normal to just have places AC and heated. 18:35.186 --> 18:38.728 [SPEAKER_01]: So here round, especially in the winter, you don't even go outside. 18:39.108 --> 18:42.050 [SPEAKER_01]: You just don't really, you're not exposed to that weather. 18:42.470 --> 18:48.454 [SPEAKER_01]: So when I'm indoors and it's like 15C, I don't know what that is in Fahrenheit, like 60s. 18:48.574 --> 18:49.094 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 18:49.594 --> 18:49.954 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like, 18:51.015 --> 19:13.969 [SPEAKER_01]: to me that means your heater broke in the winter like it shouldn't be that cold inside or you overcrank the AC so I'm just not I'm so used to if you're indoors you can just wear a t-shirt or whatever you want because it's the what it's the temperature you want so it was just shock it it's always shocking when I go there and people are like it's a heat wave I don't know turn on the AC yeah the turn of the AC they're like 19:14.809 --> 19:21.093 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I have it in this small area, but not in any of the working area, or then other way around. 19:21.193 --> 19:21.873 [SPEAKER_01]: There's no heat. 19:21.913 --> 19:27.896 [SPEAKER_01]: They're like, uh, just put on a jacket and I didn't bring a jacket. 19:27.976 --> 19:29.057 [SPEAKER_02]: I remember growing up. 19:31.038 --> 19:51.304 [SPEAKER_02]: by like my dad was like it was like the never turn the heater on or have it at like you know 68 and so you'd have to like the only way to get really warm as if you stood on top of the they're like the outlet to the heat and then like air conditioning dude literally no I couldn't imagine 19:52.242 --> 20:04.582 [SPEAKER_02]: I like a world where my dad installed their conditioning in the house and like the funniest moment of my life was I think it was after I had moved out he installs a window unit in his bedroom. 20:05.817 --> 20:10.739 [SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, I maybe I still live there cause I was like, fuck you. 20:11.019 --> 20:12.980 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like, fuck you. 20:13.020 --> 20:17.682 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, you don't my equivalent to that is my mom still talking. 20:17.702 --> 20:23.025 [SPEAKER_01]: I won't talk to you at all the time growing up if we always had AC because my dad loves it. 20:23.845 --> 20:37.128 [SPEAKER_01]: But if you literally, if you like open the front door and then step out and so and said something from inside, and you tried to have a conversation outside, he would have to step you get like prime that you even a second. 20:43.900 --> 21:01.859 [SPEAKER_01]: of lost cold that's like the end of the world and my mom was kind of like that with the fridge as well actually she would be like if the fridge is open for one second too long it's like it's too much but the funny part is that my dad I didn't know this until I got a cat that my dad is probably part cat himself. 21:02.040 --> 21:02.981 [SPEAKER_01]: I love the fact that he has. 21:04.453 --> 21:32.016 [SPEAKER_01]: No, he just like he's obsessed with cats, so he became obsessed with my cat and he will do things that my mom is like, are you kidding me, you're spoiling a little like, yeah, he built a little cardio thing for the cat and the way that it fits in the sliding door is it kind of just pinches it and then there's just a loose board of wood on the top, but it then creates like a one foot by one foot hole that just open to the air condition and it will 21:33.633 --> 21:39.979 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so it'll be just ripping hot like the day you're describing and he'll just, you just leave it open. 21:40.019 --> 21:41.440 [SPEAKER_01]: Now he doesn't give me a song. 21:41.560 --> 21:45.704 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, my mom would be like, you, what is happening? 21:45.764 --> 21:50.188 [SPEAKER_01]: You literally, if we open it for a second, you yell at the kids like you freak out. 21:50.208 --> 21:53.171 [SPEAKER_01]: He's like, yeah, but I want you to come in and out when every once. 21:53.271 --> 21:54.211 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's in charge. 21:54.232 --> 21:55.332 [SPEAKER_01]: And that's all that really matters. 21:56.493 --> 22:04.738 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, at the end of the day, I told my mom that I'm like, the difference was that when we held the door open, we were making him lose money. 22:05.599 --> 22:11.202 [SPEAKER_01]: Now he's choosing how to spend, yeah, he's choosing that money is worth spending. 22:12.263 --> 22:18.084 [SPEAKER_01]: but it was just funny that like he literally leaves the door open and he's like, well, no, the cat wants to come in. 22:18.925 --> 22:20.565 [SPEAKER_01]: He's got to come in whenever he wants. 22:20.725 --> 22:25.626 [SPEAKER_01]: And you're just like, okay, but we got yelled at for a micro set. 22:25.646 --> 22:26.746 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, it'd be really interesting. 22:26.826 --> 22:32.148 [SPEAKER_01]: That yelled at just like the classic dad cry from three rooms over. 22:32.268 --> 22:33.028 [SPEAKER_01]: Shut the noise. 22:33.048 --> 22:37.149 [SPEAKER_02]: We should quantify the like the sort of like, 22:37.789 --> 22:41.650 [SPEAKER_02]: parental, dad, verbal abuse for costs, right? 22:41.670 --> 22:42.490 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, what are those costs? 22:42.510 --> 22:44.031 [SPEAKER_02]: That's what I was just thinking about. 22:44.051 --> 22:49.452 [SPEAKER_00]: Like there's no way it's more than like $5 a month for leaving the door open for an extra, like, yeah. 22:49.532 --> 22:51.553 [SPEAKER_02]: There is, you could very easily figure this out. 22:51.573 --> 22:52.573 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think you can figure it out. 22:52.673 --> 22:53.373 [SPEAKER_02]: I like the bridge, you know? 22:53.393 --> 22:59.695 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the bridge door being open, like every X number of seconds the fridge door is open, X amount of energy leaves it and then, 23:00.535 --> 23:05.640 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, that does cool the room down a little bit, but then the refrigerator has to run again to catch back up. 23:05.700 --> 23:09.624 [SPEAKER_02]: And so then you end up with like, you know, like, I don't know what the percentage extra is. 23:09.644 --> 23:13.507 [SPEAKER_02]: But what, like, a 10% extra, what's the fridge, generate how much heat? 23:14.208 --> 23:15.129 [SPEAKER_02]: What's the inefficiency? 23:15.309 --> 23:16.710 [SPEAKER_00]: They're like 90% efficient. 23:16.730 --> 23:20.354 [SPEAKER_00]: I think they're, I mean, they're basically like 100% efficient minus that. 23:20.454 --> 23:22.576 [SPEAKER_02]: My, so maybe like, the motor and so you like lose 10%. 23:22.596 --> 23:22.776 [SPEAKER_02]: So like, 23:23.837 --> 23:38.190 [SPEAKER_02]: If opening the fridge, you lose 10% worth of cooling or 10 cents worth of cooling for every minute, then that's like 10 of us I love in sense to then a recoup, you know, the extra heat in the house for the airconditioner run. 23:38.851 --> 23:47.639 [SPEAKER_02]: So like you could probably figure out like, oh, it's like one penny a second when you leave the door open, but like, yeah, I might actually be like a penny a minute to leave the fridge door open. 23:48.428 --> 24:01.156 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and then like when you open the front door, you know, and you like let out the hot air in the house, like, you know, just opening the door is going is like right big like that's that's going to let a much a bunch of heat and just doing that. 24:01.196 --> 24:07.220 [SPEAKER_00]: So leaving the door open for another few seconds or even like 10 seconds like does it really make that much of a difference. 24:07.420 --> 24:27.195 [SPEAKER_02]: Because here's like the interesting part of our refrigerators is so there's like this idea of he capacity and the he capacity is like the amount of energy that something can store and then you have the phase change which is like this extra monster on top of he capacity and so like air has like a low he capacity. 24:27.215 --> 24:34.500 [SPEAKER_02]: So the air like what leaves the fridge when you open the door the air just a little bit of cold air and the air is like air is like imagine like the tiniest 24:37.382 --> 24:44.727 [SPEAKER_02]: And then you have like a cold water bottle and the water bottle is a walls of the bathtub or like a freaking enormous amount of energy. 24:44.947 --> 24:57.656 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the gallon of milk, the gallon of the fridge is like a shit ton of heat capacity and so like for every degree change of the gallon of milk requires like probably literally the entire air worth of cold air in the fridge. 24:58.557 --> 25:01.679 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, when you put something like countering, it's like stays cold for God damn ever. 25:02.180 --> 25:03.540 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like surprisingly so. 25:04.101 --> 25:05.462 [SPEAKER_02]: So then you go through your phase change. 25:05.482 --> 25:06.483 [SPEAKER_02]: That's the freezer, right? 25:06.503 --> 25:12.086 [SPEAKER_02]: So like the amount of energy inside of like a bottle of water in the freezer, like how much? 25:12.207 --> 25:13.007 [SPEAKER_02]: How much? 25:13.447 --> 25:19.632 [SPEAKER_02]: More energy is in a frozen water bottle in your freezer than the air inside your fridge. 25:20.572 --> 25:23.314 [SPEAKER_02]: Like you could probably very easily answer this question. 25:23.514 --> 25:26.316 [SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, I would love to know the answer 25:28.112 --> 25:29.814 [SPEAKER_02]: Is it like a hundred times more? 25:30.214 --> 25:32.416 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so like the more stuff you have in the fridge. 25:32.476 --> 25:36.579 [SPEAKER_02]: So buffers, buffers against like any loss that you have for leaving the fridge. 25:36.779 --> 25:45.547 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, like imagine, like this is like, I guess what I'm getting is like, imagine taking a frozen water bottle out of your freezer is the same as leaving your fridge door open for 30 minutes. 25:45.587 --> 25:46.908 [SPEAKER_02]: Potentially is what I'm saying. 25:47.728 --> 25:57.321 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, yeah, because you spent all that energy to cool down that water and then you leave that on on the counter, you've literally it's the same thing as removing the entire bit of air. 25:57.601 --> 26:00.505 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because like the fridge isn't going to cool the air down when you close the door. 26:00.545 --> 26:02.788 [SPEAKER_02]: It's everything in the fridge that's going to suck the heat out of you. 26:03.242 --> 26:11.069 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, when we go to the grocery store and we get, like, say, like, a case of soda or beer and it's cold, I'm like, I just put the whole thing in the fridge. 26:11.149 --> 26:11.349 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 26:11.830 --> 26:12.030 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 26:12.050 --> 26:17.094 [SPEAKER_00]: So that way, I'm like, because we were going to have to like spend the, like energy to make it cold again. 26:17.134 --> 26:19.777 [SPEAKER_00]: So if it's cold, it goes in the fridge even if it doesn't matter. 26:20.543 --> 26:24.107 [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, I wonder what the actual number is. 26:24.127 --> 26:25.348 [SPEAKER_02]: I think my thing is interesting, short. 26:25.388 --> 26:35.999 [SPEAKER_02]: You're like, you know, exploring the idea of like, you know, every time we dive at yell at you for opening the door, leaving the fridge door, like, you know, looking in the fridge every, you know, 20 minutes, hoping there's something new in there. 26:36.099 --> 26:38.201 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, yeah, your parents yelled at you. 26:39.082 --> 26:48.905 [SPEAKER_02]: How much money does you not doing it actually save and you can then quantify mom you yelled at me over One cent yeah, electricity. 26:49.405 --> 26:57.487 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, just I need you to know that you're tweaking for 18 years About this and the collective total of wasted energy. 26:57.787 --> 26:58.927 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, or dollar. 26:58.967 --> 26:59.427 [SPEAKER_02]: Here you go. 26:59.727 --> 26:59.948 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah 27:02.183 --> 27:02.483 [SPEAKER_02]: Yep. 27:03.304 --> 27:06.787 [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe it's more, I have no idea, I, you know, it's not going to be that much. 27:06.807 --> 27:07.828 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think it's going to be that much. 27:08.028 --> 27:09.069 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like a fraction. 27:09.229 --> 27:12.552 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, like, charging your car less than five percent. 27:12.752 --> 27:17.316 [SPEAKER_00]: I would say like your total energy bill, if you were like really lazy about closing doors and pretty enough. 27:17.937 --> 27:19.498 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, what's the biggest part of your energy bill, you think? 27:19.698 --> 27:20.219 [SPEAKER_02]: Air conditioning. 27:20.239 --> 27:20.839 [SPEAKER_02]: Air conditioning. 27:20.859 --> 27:21.120 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 27:21.740 --> 27:22.721 [SPEAKER_02]: Charging, no car charging. 27:22.821 --> 27:23.562 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah. 27:23.582 --> 27:23.962 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah. 27:31.118 --> 27:31.759 [SPEAKER_02]: full charge. 27:31.819 --> 27:40.646 [SPEAKER_02]: I think at one point it was like $20 in electricity, which is like, I'm gonna be honest, $20 worth of electricity is a fucking crazy amount of energy. 27:41.127 --> 27:43.049 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's crazy. 27:43.149 --> 27:48.633 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, actually it's hard to describe how much fucking energy. 27:48.874 --> 27:53.858 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, $20 worth of electricity at like a home price is it is. 27:55.254 --> 28:02.516 [SPEAKER_02]: A lot like a lot a lot like when I'm using my induction heater to melt like a solid chunk of steel. 28:02.536 --> 28:12.460 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm putting 20 kilowatts into it and it melts that steel one hour one minute would cost you 20 times 30 sensor whatever it is here. 28:12.480 --> 28:12.700 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah 28:13.460 --> 28:18.725 [SPEAKER_02]: So if you ran your induction heater for one hour, it would cost you what it's at $6, then I'm doing that mess wrong. 28:18.765 --> 28:19.586 [SPEAKER_02]: It's 20. 28:19.606 --> 28:23.570 [SPEAKER_02]: 20 kilowatt hours times 31, so that's 20 kilowatt hours. 28:23.630 --> 28:24.210 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm 30. 28:24.290 --> 28:25.412 [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, six. 28:25.512 --> 28:25.992 [SPEAKER_02]: Six dollars. 28:26.152 --> 28:28.274 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but I only run it for a minute at a time. 28:28.675 --> 28:31.457 [SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, yeah, so it's like penny. 28:31.477 --> 28:31.638 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes. 28:31.878 --> 28:32.098 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 28:32.178 --> 28:33.419 [SPEAKER_00]: And then it's like melting steel. 28:33.499 --> 28:33.740 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes. 28:34.300 --> 28:40.264 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and like, okay, and then you realize that you go through like maybe 30 kilowatt hours a day. 28:40.284 --> 28:43.005 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so you could melt a lot of steel with. 28:43.106 --> 28:45.767 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like it's a crazy amount of energy. 28:45.887 --> 28:48.729 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think you really don't realize like that's why batteries fucking explode. 28:48.889 --> 28:52.952 [SPEAKER_02]: It's like it's literally you've like captured like, okay, imagine 28:53.612 --> 28:54.613 [SPEAKER_02]: maybe this is a good analogy. 28:54.853 --> 28:57.894 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, remember like back in the 90s, everyone's like a flywheel cars. 28:57.914 --> 28:59.015 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, story, I don't know, fly. 28:59.075 --> 29:00.235 [SPEAKER_02]: I know it is like 1900s. 29:00.275 --> 29:03.337 [SPEAKER_02]: No, this has been like a perpetual energy back every 20 years. 29:05.578 --> 29:08.700 [SPEAKER_02]: For those of you who don't know what perpetual energy is, it's a scam. 29:09.280 --> 29:30.630 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, so the idea of a flywheel story energy is like you take a big thing and it's heavy and it's like on the the mass is like farther out on the axes So you have more certainly like a rotational momentum Partnership and then you accelerate it and then you have this big fucking heavy thing spinning Yeah, and uh when you have a big fucking heavy thing spinning it has energy and the fast you make it spin the more energy it has 29:31.945 --> 29:44.796 [SPEAKER_02]: and how fast and how big of a mast you have to spin up to store even a fraction of the energy that a chemical battery, like a lithium battery has in a car. 29:46.278 --> 29:50.421 [SPEAKER_02]: It would be bucked up. 29:50.761 --> 29:52.123 [SPEAKER_02]: Imagine a wheel 30:00.660 --> 30:01.020 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah. 30:01.060 --> 30:06.261 [SPEAKER_02]: How fucking big and how fast does that flywheel have to be spinning? 30:06.942 --> 30:11.283 [SPEAKER_02]: Like if you took, let's say you took 10 cars and put them on a Ferris wheel and spun that up. 30:11.623 --> 30:13.883 [SPEAKER_02]: How fast with that Ferris would have to be spinning? 30:14.364 --> 30:16.824 [SPEAKER_02]: With, you know, 10 cars full size gap. 30:17.044 --> 30:18.965 [SPEAKER_02]: Like how many like do you see where this is going? 30:19.305 --> 30:19.705 [SPEAKER_02]: It would be 30:21.488 --> 30:22.630 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, if you all the energy I want. 30:22.690 --> 30:30.603 [SPEAKER_00]: This is a thing now that is getting more popular for like energy storage, like grid energy storage, instead of like sand batteries and stuff. 30:30.883 --> 30:32.606 [SPEAKER_00]: No, no, like giant flywheel batteries. 30:32.646 --> 30:32.727 [SPEAKER_00]: Ah! 30:33.262 --> 30:47.435 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like for what for like you know solar energy storage because it's like it doesn't go bad like lithium batteries after you know 10 years or something So that they you know, they don't digray it so you can just lose them forever. 30:47.655 --> 30:48.876 [SPEAKER_00]: How big are they though. 30:49.397 --> 30:58.044 [SPEAKER_00]: I think they're big I think the rotor is like the size of a fridge kind of thing and they're they're composite so they don't even use metal they use like carbon fiber 30:58.905 --> 30:59.626 [SPEAKER_00]: like rotors. 30:59.646 --> 31:00.927 [SPEAKER_02]: It's a whole bunch of dirt or something. 31:01.567 --> 31:04.349 [SPEAKER_00]: No, it's just composite. 31:04.789 --> 31:05.690 [SPEAKER_00]: It's all composite. 31:05.730 --> 31:06.050 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 31:06.611 --> 31:07.731 [SPEAKER_02]: It's all kind of giant. 31:07.751 --> 31:09.373 [SPEAKER_02]: Like they their math is carbon fiber. 31:09.633 --> 31:10.253 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm pretty sure. 31:10.513 --> 31:10.794 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 31:10.894 --> 31:17.799 [SPEAKER_00]: And then they spin them up to, I don't know, some ungodly speed and a vacuum on magnetic zero friction bearings. 31:18.459 --> 31:20.100 [SPEAKER_00]: And I think, you know, it's got to be like, 31:21.241 --> 31:23.602 [SPEAKER_00]: going over the speed of sound in there. 31:23.622 --> 31:31.267 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, there is, because it's a vacuum, but I think they spin it like hundreds of thousands of RPM, basically, like, if you thought a battery fire was scary. 31:31.627 --> 31:31.947 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 31:32.408 --> 31:34.729 [SPEAKER_00]: And they store like megawatts of juice of energy. 31:34.749 --> 31:35.229 [SPEAKER_02]: Is it the thing? 31:35.470 --> 31:35.690 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 31:36.050 --> 31:37.191 [SPEAKER_02]: Wait, John, pop a video of this. 31:37.231 --> 31:38.611 [SPEAKER_02]: So do you remember it, give any of it a video? 31:38.631 --> 31:42.594 [SPEAKER_00]: They just call it like kinetic energy storage systems or like flywheel energy storage. 31:43.034 --> 31:44.335 [SPEAKER_02]: Because you have like a dam, right? 31:44.435 --> 31:54.023 [SPEAKER_02]: Like a dam in a hydroelectric power plant is kind of like the most practical version of this. 31:54.804 --> 32:01.289 [SPEAKER_02]: Like how many gallons of water have to leave the Hoover dam to fill up a like a Tesla bed, like a 72 kilowatt hours. 32:02.450 --> 32:03.671 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, and then like what is that? 32:03.691 --> 32:04.512 [SPEAKER_02]: What are these equivalent? 32:04.532 --> 32:07.034 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, are you talking like a limpic swimming pool? 32:07.675 --> 32:09.016 [SPEAKER_02]: I think it might be more than that. 32:10.287 --> 32:13.791 [SPEAKER_00]: No, this is another easy one, you know, it's just kinetic energy. 32:13.871 --> 32:14.872 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't even have water. 32:14.892 --> 32:15.933 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't even have water. 32:15.993 --> 32:19.818 [SPEAKER_02]: We beyond the like logarithmic skill that the linear skill that my brain can do. 32:19.898 --> 32:20.599 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 32:20.919 --> 32:23.322 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't even have a correlation of like which realm we're in. 32:23.362 --> 32:27.226 [SPEAKER_02]: Are we in the millions of gallons, tens of millions of gallons and hundreds of gallons? 32:27.246 --> 32:27.827 [SPEAKER_02]: From what height? 32:27.887 --> 32:28.808 [SPEAKER_02]: From what height, right? 32:28.828 --> 32:29.769 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 32:30.670 --> 32:30.850 [SPEAKER_02]: Like. 32:31.597 --> 32:33.419 [SPEAKER_00]: but back to the flywheel thing. 32:33.439 --> 32:44.349 [SPEAKER_00]: I know that some big industrial plants have these like miniature versions on site because they'll draw like such huge spikes of energy that the grid can't supply them with that. 32:44.429 --> 32:47.892 [SPEAKER_00]: So they like spin up like these little flywheels to eat up the batter. 32:48.492 --> 33:05.815 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I guess so, but there's, I don't know if I'm wrong, but I thought they they also it's like for battery well battery power backup right like if you lose power Before you can like kick the generators on I think an old school way what is to do that or I don't know if it's old I look that up and second 33:06.033 --> 33:21.803 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, the flywheel would be instantaneous because it's just your, you know, you would do your, it's electronics at that point, like the energy is right there, but the battery is instantaneous, too, and then you would start up your generator, which would then take like, on like seconds or times of seconds. 33:22.384 --> 33:25.546 [SPEAKER_02]: So it seems like the flywheel is interesting. 33:25.566 --> 33:29.068 [SPEAKER_02]: It feels like a really inefficient way to store energy unless it's constantly cycling. 33:29.088 --> 33:30.669 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 33:30.689 --> 33:31.630 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, what are the losses? 33:32.618 --> 33:48.206 [SPEAKER_02]: uh... i mean it just like uh... the it's not the system it's not the energy it's the like mechanics is like i think it's got to be worse cost wise like friction uh... like bearings and then electrical losses spinning it up and and generates power 33:50.190 --> 33:51.611 [SPEAKER_02]: Like a mechanical failure. 33:51.671 --> 33:52.953 [SPEAKER_02]: Also maybe more dangerous. 33:53.033 --> 33:53.453 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know. 33:53.573 --> 33:56.576 [SPEAKER_02]: It just feels like unnecessarily complicated compared to just a battery, right? 33:56.596 --> 33:59.078 [SPEAKER_02]: You can just get an old car and rip the battery out of it, right? 33:59.559 --> 34:00.099 [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe off. 34:00.139 --> 34:01.641 [SPEAKER_01]: Has like a battery backup thing? 34:01.981 --> 34:06.725 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you know, if you had generators and then you just needed like an intermediary to, like, start for a second. 34:07.386 --> 34:14.087 [SPEAKER_01]: But I think it was generally a technology that was used before batteries. 34:14.227 --> 34:15.408 [SPEAKER_01]: It was just like an old school day. 34:15.468 --> 34:27.690 [SPEAKER_01]: But also, at least I looked it up quick and I mean, at least, you know, from what I see here, it claims that the flywheel, the batteries are usually can be as low as like two milliseconds delay. 34:27.710 --> 34:30.431 [SPEAKER_01]: But it says like the the flywheel can be. 34:31.091 --> 34:34.092 [SPEAKER_01]: Submilla second almost like virtually instantaneous. 34:34.473 --> 34:37.974 [SPEAKER_01]: So if you need like instant data or I say data. 34:38.294 --> 34:43.336 [SPEAKER_01]: I meant like instant power back up for things like data centers and medical systems that you cannot have. 34:49.986 --> 34:51.969 [SPEAKER_02]: chemical inertia or anything like that, how does that work? 34:53.010 --> 34:56.175 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't, I think it's probably just the switching. 34:56.575 --> 34:56.976 [SPEAKER_00]: I think. 34:57.056 --> 35:06.469 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think that literally, the one is like an electronic thing where is like, for the flywheel, I think it's straight up just detect something, it's going to thunk and just like, 35:07.210 --> 35:09.892 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, why will it just be a electronics as well, right? 35:09.912 --> 35:14.355 [SPEAKER_02]: Because the flywheel would always be spinning the generator, but the generator wouldn't be a load. 35:14.375 --> 35:18.758 [SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, it wouldn't like close the switch, like the electronics switch until the transistors turn on. 35:18.778 --> 35:23.341 [SPEAKER_02]: And all of a sudden, now you start, like, you know, the resistance on the floor and the absorbing energy. 35:24.382 --> 35:26.082 [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe it's old batteries. 35:26.422 --> 35:33.084 [SPEAKER_02]: Do batteries have any, that's, that's, I don't know, they've, they've, like, yeah, or like, internal chemical inductance, like, is that a thing? 35:33.104 --> 35:36.104 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the reaction, like, it wants to keep going for a little bit. 35:36.124 --> 35:37.164 [SPEAKER_02]: It takes a second to stop. 35:37.664 --> 35:38.485 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, stop instantly. 35:38.605 --> 35:39.185 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, can't it? 35:39.205 --> 35:39.585 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know. 35:40.925 --> 35:42.765 [SPEAKER_02]: Not really a problem if I think about it on a daily basis. 35:42.865 --> 35:43.185 [SPEAKER_00]: No. 35:44.726 --> 35:45.946 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, how the fuck does that work? 35:46.266 --> 35:50.807 [SPEAKER_00]: You're like some, some electron hammer that happens in a battery when you disconnect the... 35:52.359 --> 35:54.480 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, actually, I mean, yeah, that's inductance. 35:54.940 --> 35:57.240 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like a weird, like a chemical reaction. 35:57.260 --> 36:09.383 [SPEAKER_00]: But does it take a battery, like a, you know, millisecond to get started besides like the inductance of the wires or whatever, you know, like if you tap the terminal, like it's got to be instant. 36:09.403 --> 36:10.484 [SPEAKER_02]: It's got to be instant, right? 36:10.504 --> 36:12.344 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because it's going to saturate. 36:12.364 --> 36:13.144 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it's on full video. 36:13.164 --> 36:13.864 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, does that be a member? 36:13.884 --> 36:20.006 [SPEAKER_02]: Like a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, 36:20.293 --> 36:27.486 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's more of like just a solid, like, you know, like the solid mass a solid map or it looks pretty small. 36:29.470 --> 36:32.191 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, is this, but this looks like gyros for stabilization. 36:32.631 --> 36:35.072 [SPEAKER_00]: Just look up flywheel energy storage. 36:35.812 --> 36:43.155 [SPEAKER_02]: John, I guess, uh, look up, um, uh, um, um, Sports Illustrated from suit 2026. 36:43.755 --> 36:46.697 [SPEAKER_00]: Also, I don't know why they make them out of carbon fiber and composite stuff. 36:46.737 --> 36:49.498 [SPEAKER_00]: Because I think they want to spin it up really fast. 36:49.738 --> 36:52.099 [SPEAKER_00]: Because you get like more energy if it's going fast, 36:56.740 --> 37:10.927 [SPEAKER_02]: the radius is worse bigger more energy you would want bigger radius which then would mean it needs to be stronger and that would make sense for the carbon like you make make it big like wide and like strong and light 37:12.347 --> 37:21.614 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you don't really care about the weight you care about the radius, and so you just then figure out a, uh, so it's steel just, like, explode. 37:21.654 --> 37:22.654 [SPEAKER_00]: It couldn't handle the force. 37:22.754 --> 37:24.376 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, I mean, that's crazy. 37:24.536 --> 37:24.956 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 37:25.016 --> 37:26.057 [SPEAKER_02]: No, I mean, I make sense. 37:26.117 --> 37:35.343 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because then the more the faster you're spending, the more energy, then the larger the strain on your, your steel, like, you know, mass on the inside. 37:35.604 --> 37:38.926 [SPEAKER_02]: And so carbon probably then you could still, the outside, though, I think. 37:40.657 --> 37:42.999 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, or maybe you like load the carbon with steel. 37:43.939 --> 37:45.721 [SPEAKER_02]: This is, it's definitely, yeah. 37:45.861 --> 37:49.503 [SPEAKER_02]: This is why I'm surprised that they do this because it sounds like a huge freaking pan in the ass. 37:49.583 --> 37:52.825 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I wonder John can find any numbers on like energy storage. 37:52.885 --> 37:56.288 [SPEAKER_00]: But I remember when I saw these numbers, I was like, what? 37:56.968 --> 38:01.491 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, it's like some astounding number of how much energy they store in the flywheels. 38:01.631 --> 38:02.352 [SPEAKER_00]: In the flywheels. 38:02.752 --> 38:03.593 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's like, 38:04.693 --> 38:13.238 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe somehow worse than a bomb in the speed that they spin at it is a bomb like when they yeah It's like a weird like I bet there's videos out there of one going. 38:13.258 --> 38:19.721 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, something bad happening I think usually they build them in these like basically bunkers that if they do blow up nothing happens 38:21.242 --> 38:46.338 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like I'm so clear after you know it has to be in case to concrete but like it's just actually a better idea like a better solution than just a battery right because like you know people that you see how much shit like batteries get like all my phone exploded or my my car and the car battery exploded and it's like yes you have no idea actually how amazing it is that it doesn't detonate like every other energy story system like any like mechanical system or whatnot like the fact that you can put 38:49.860 --> 39:08.208 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it doesn't like it just catches on fire violently is is a sound like the flywheel or like compressed air like how much compressed need I think it's uh it's good because it has like a really high energy density to compare to batteries What about this? 39:08.228 --> 39:12.430 [SPEAKER_02]: What about like what if you use compressed propane they don't burn the propane you just use the pressure 39:19.193 --> 39:26.663 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, and I, uh, I think, uh, like the, uh, DARPA challenge or a Peter talking about the batteries, the like 20,000 dollar per 10,000 dollar batteries that we're using, like super high performance lithium batteries. 39:26.683 --> 39:26.783 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 39:26.843 --> 39:35.755 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, um, um, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh uh, uh uh, uh uh, uh uh, uh 39:36.597 --> 39:42.120 [SPEAKER_02]: Turns out that, like, the more high performance they are, you sort of sacrifice a few other things in one of those. 39:42.320 --> 39:47.343 [SPEAKER_02]: Is that when they do break, they do sort of, like, catch one fire very violently compared to a normal. 39:47.503 --> 39:50.184 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Peter described it as, like, a thermite reaction. 39:50.464 --> 39:50.745 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 39:50.865 --> 39:54.347 [SPEAKER_00]: When the battery catches on fire and from the videos, it looked like it, too. 39:54.387 --> 39:55.887 [SPEAKER_02]: Apparently, it's a chemistry thing. 39:55.907 --> 39:59.809 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I was thinking maybe it's a mechanical thing, where, like, the layers are thin or something. 39:59.850 --> 40:00.330 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know. 40:01.494 --> 40:04.835 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but I've never really seen a lipo battery burn that well. 40:04.855 --> 40:09.337 [SPEAKER_02]: Like they kind of are like, you know, we've like stabbed them before and they burned but like it's never exciting. 40:09.377 --> 40:11.317 [SPEAKER_02]: It's just like a lame firework. 40:11.497 --> 40:18.520 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, but this was like, yeah, it looked like, you know, one of those videos like we're a steel plant catches on fire or something or shit spraying. 40:18.560 --> 40:18.780 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 40:18.820 --> 40:19.140 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 40:19.380 --> 40:19.740 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 40:20.800 --> 40:26.362 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, no, I, I think that we don't appreciate enough. 40:26.602 --> 40:27.542 [SPEAKER_02]: What is that in the corner? 40:27.562 --> 40:28.983 [SPEAKER_02]: Are you saving up for the extra or something? 40:29.273 --> 40:32.294 [SPEAKER_00]: No, no, I was just building that while you were talking to the fireman. 40:32.314 --> 40:33.755 [SPEAKER_00]: No, my plane. 40:33.775 --> 40:34.555 [SPEAKER_02]: Do you want to show it? 40:35.155 --> 40:36.135 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'll show it. 40:36.155 --> 40:37.076 [SPEAKER_00]: Show it to the client. 40:37.196 --> 40:38.356 [SPEAKER_02]: And I just saw it already. 40:38.436 --> 40:41.217 [SPEAKER_02]: There's like, it looks like a skeleton, like an airplane skeleton. 40:41.237 --> 40:45.539 [SPEAKER_00]: This is what I love about, oh, yeah, you know. 40:45.939 --> 40:48.040 [SPEAKER_00]: And that's, that's just like pressed together. 40:48.080 --> 40:49.800 [SPEAKER_00]: So no welding, no fastening. 40:49.960 --> 40:51.041 [SPEAKER_00]: And it's, it's pretty stiff. 40:51.321 --> 40:52.021 [SPEAKER_00]: No. 40:52.061 --> 40:53.742 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, it's a flying wing that I'm building. 40:54.773 --> 40:55.854 [SPEAKER_01]: How did you design it? 40:56.654 --> 41:01.478 [SPEAKER_00]: I just found like a tool online that's like a wing generator, and then I took that. 41:01.598 --> 41:09.303 [SPEAKER_00]: Like it lets you export like a solid, like whatever step file, and then I sliced it up infusion, and then I scelt andized everything. 41:09.864 --> 41:14.347 [SPEAKER_00]: I had Claude write me a script to scelt andized everything, because doing it by hand would have taken forever. 41:14.567 --> 41:15.047 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 41:15.067 --> 41:16.768 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and then I laser cut it. 41:17.809 --> 41:19.111 [SPEAKER_00]: And it weighs 180 grams. 41:19.351 --> 41:27.900 [SPEAKER_02]: What I hate about stuff like this is every part is different, unless even the you have just symmetry here, but like, yeah, every single piece is unique. 41:28.261 --> 41:30.663 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you had then have like this horrible bomb. 41:31.144 --> 41:32.846 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like, what is this? 41:32.906 --> 41:37.091 [SPEAKER_02]: It's not even that many parts, but it's like, you know, 20, oh, this is one, two, three. 41:37.111 --> 41:37.431 [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's 41:37.671 --> 41:40.194 [SPEAKER_02]: No, so no, it's 40. 41:40.234 --> 41:42.517 [SPEAKER_02]: So it's 10 ribs per side. 41:42.677 --> 41:44.119 [SPEAKER_02]: The ribs are different each side or the same. 41:44.299 --> 41:47.423 [SPEAKER_02]: It's the same symmetrically, but then this way they're not different. 41:47.443 --> 41:48.324 [SPEAKER_02]: So 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. 41:48.544 --> 41:48.884 [SPEAKER_00]: So it's 25. 41:49.325 --> 41:50.566 [SPEAKER_00]: This is 25 unique part. 41:51.027 --> 41:51.307 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 41:55.752 --> 42:24.404 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, we were actually like watching the way that they like keep track of all the parts So I just I got some parts made For a they like sponsored second channel video so I made this like storage The thing oh, yeah, and I like I was sitting there modeling I was like fighting the cad software And like I was gonna try to make the two sides of the shelf some metric So that I didn't have to have two unique parts and I just could not get mirroring to work in oncha. 42:24.424 --> 42:25.264 [SPEAKER_02]: I was like screaming at it 42:25.684 --> 42:27.906 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, and so I was like, you know what, it's gonna be two unique parts. 42:27.947 --> 42:31.430 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't care and I was like God, what if they mess it up and they see and it looks the same Nope, they didn't matter. 42:31.450 --> 42:40.358 [SPEAKER_02]: They just like the system of like barcodes and power to keep track of everything is like Even they look identical like they cut out identical, but they you know when you like have to bend each one the opposite direction. 42:40.558 --> 42:41.840 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah Exactly the same. 42:41.880 --> 42:44.162 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so now what I have to do with this. 42:44.222 --> 42:45.123 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, okay, it weighs 180 grams 42:46.768 --> 42:50.513 [SPEAKER_02]: That's far I think you can get the way or I think this aluminum is far too thick. 42:50.833 --> 42:51.474 [SPEAKER_02]: You think so. 42:51.794 --> 42:57.901 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah, like you see these like like the traces are they have like a four millimeter like. 42:57.941 --> 42:59.663 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you don't have the right way to do this. 42:59.863 --> 43:00.544 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm so sorry. 43:00.564 --> 43:04.628 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, if this is not your final product is cut these super thin and then bend them. 43:05.529 --> 43:13.696 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so now I was trying to think I was trying to think of like what's the right way to do this and I'm like I just couldn't wrap my brain around doing it with like bent metal. 43:14.036 --> 43:23.624 [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm just like do this The bright right answer and you probably could do this with aluminum is to punch them be like cut them out put them in a die and because it's like relatively soft you just 43:24.284 --> 43:48.523 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so then you automatically get like stiffness and both stiffness like sheet like bending a metal especially like compound like like you know like on cave bends yeah in both directions is like this obscene cheat code to metal strength like you can take something that is basically paper and turn it into you know like the most rigid object you've ever seen and it's hard work hardens. 43:48.543 --> 43:49.504 [SPEAKER_02]: So I mean, this is aluminum. 43:50.785 --> 44:00.248 [SPEAKER_02]: But just that little bit of ribbing and rigidity, or like, seems like your VHS camera, or your DV camera growing up, like all the little metal pieces of parts that are like moving around in there. 44:00.568 --> 44:04.069 [SPEAKER_02]: They all have like a punched rib, at least in the middle. 44:04.249 --> 44:05.369 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 44:06.069 --> 44:07.450 [SPEAKER_02]: And that's like, it makes, so. 44:08.975 --> 44:09.275 [SPEAKER_00]: I know. 44:09.295 --> 44:10.616 [SPEAKER_02]: It's so strong. 44:10.656 --> 44:11.297 [SPEAKER_00]: It's crazy. 44:11.317 --> 44:20.003 [SPEAKER_00]: I just couldn't wrap my head around like what I would do to make it easy to assemble like after the fact, because even with this I'm going to have to put like tack welds on a shoe. 44:20.023 --> 44:22.024 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, the skin is what's going to stiffen it up. 44:22.064 --> 44:23.105 [SPEAKER_02]: This is what I would actually do. 44:23.445 --> 44:24.406 [SPEAKER_02]: I would do carbon. 44:25.126 --> 44:28.149 [SPEAKER_02]: I would like pay someone to cut or like water jet like the carbon versions. 44:29.446 --> 44:38.717 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, what I could do is fill this with foam now and then shave it flat and then make a mold and then just fill if I made this out of foam, it would it would weigh 80 grams. 44:38.798 --> 44:40.540 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, just put some like bars in there. 44:40.860 --> 44:43.704 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so that's like 100, you know, grams lighter than this. 44:44.222 --> 44:53.286 [SPEAKER_02]: I wonder if anyone's done a composite where you take foam, but you run carbon rods with beads on it or little things to grab onto the foam. 44:53.306 --> 44:54.847 [SPEAKER_02]: So the carbon provides stiffness. 44:55.367 --> 44:56.028 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah. 44:56.068 --> 45:06.452 [SPEAKER_02]: But the beads like grab on, like they provide these kind of rebar style grab points, but you could do like a carbon strip with like holes in it too. 45:06.893 --> 45:08.453 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but my cut the foam though. 45:08.473 --> 45:08.814 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah. 45:09.734 --> 45:09.994 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 45:10.634 --> 45:11.695 [SPEAKER_02]: Like what kind of foam? 45:12.848 --> 45:17.352 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, like, you know, that the pink foam, the, uh, the insulation foam. 45:17.853 --> 45:18.814 [SPEAKER_00]: I think that's styrofoam. 45:18.834 --> 45:29.564 [SPEAKER_00]: The pink stuff, I think, is styrofoam or like, like, your insulation foam, which is poly, ISO, cyan, or, yeah, would, would, would work too for this. 45:29.644 --> 45:30.465 [SPEAKER_02]: No, or you need a stronger. 45:31.523 --> 45:51.594 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, usually like what people do in the hot model RC thing is they'll do like something like this out of ball so wood and then they have this heat shrink fabric it's like, you know, yeah and then they just like cover the plane and that it's like a piece it's like a plastic pouch or something you put the plane and I don't exactly now and then it like heat shrinks over the plane and it like the trust their ribs and stuff and it's. 45:51.954 --> 45:59.319 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's light, but it's also pretty strong and sturdy and stiff, and that provides a bunch of like the actual structural support of the client. 45:59.359 --> 46:01.000 [SPEAKER_02]: Here's another idea. 46:01.140 --> 46:10.246 [SPEAKER_02]: You make the sheet metal parts, but you bend them at like a 30 degree angle or 15 degree angle, so they're like, like a very like shallow V, right? 46:10.266 --> 46:12.387 [SPEAKER_02]: So if they're flat, you're like deep, you bend it like that. 46:12.548 --> 46:17.271 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and then you project the geometry onto them and cut that out. 46:17.871 --> 46:23.217 [SPEAKER_02]: And so then when you cut it out, then, oh, when you bend them into shape, it'll have this. 46:23.237 --> 46:24.017 [SPEAKER_02]: And then it matches. 46:24.077 --> 46:29.323 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, when you bend that 15 degrees, you get your bend to like rigidize a little bit in at least one axis. 46:29.583 --> 46:29.903 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 46:29.983 --> 46:34.448 [SPEAKER_02]: And then, um, that's what we got this freaking tail that's going to be a pain in the butt. 46:36.208 --> 46:36.728 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't know. 46:37.468 --> 46:38.649 [SPEAKER_02]: Fabricating stuff is hardest shit. 46:38.969 --> 46:39.329 [SPEAKER_00]: I know. 46:39.649 --> 46:42.229 [SPEAKER_00]: And I thought the laser would kind of be like a little cheat. 46:42.449 --> 46:42.630 [SPEAKER_00]: No. 46:43.150 --> 46:47.851 [SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, like this is so lightweight and skeletonized and it's still like... You could probably cut the way. 46:47.891 --> 46:52.292 [SPEAKER_00]: I bet you like, I kind of like 50, like between 40 and 50% of the weight off. 46:52.652 --> 46:53.732 [SPEAKER_00]: I used to go up to anizing. 46:54.012 --> 47:02.234 [SPEAKER_02]: Like somebody would like super, super like well-versed in this stuff could probably cut the way that thing in like an eighth and make it like five times tougher. 47:02.614 --> 47:02.874 [SPEAKER_00]: I know. 47:02.894 --> 47:03.354 [SPEAKER_00]: And you'd be like, 47:06.415 --> 47:06.776 [SPEAKER_00]: It's great. 47:06.796 --> 47:10.001 [SPEAKER_00]: I like they could probably get rid of like every other one of these ribs here. 47:10.061 --> 47:11.363 [SPEAKER_00]: You know like You're right at this one. 47:11.383 --> 47:12.785 [SPEAKER_00]: You're right at that one get right at that one. 47:12.845 --> 47:17.071 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I just do like some kind of carbon fiber skin That would be cool. 47:17.752 --> 47:20.957 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, does it have to be why why does this need to be so epic? 47:21.795 --> 47:26.418 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, it does and I just thought this would be like an easy way to do it since I have a laser cutter. 47:26.438 --> 47:34.964 [SPEAKER_00]: I could just make this like this skeleton and then just put tape over it like regular masking tape basically for the scan. 47:36.204 --> 47:40.027 [SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, like I could have just like shape, shape and down a piece of foam. 47:40.667 --> 47:41.308 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 47:41.328 --> 47:43.189 [SPEAKER_02]: In the time it took me to the model or two. 47:43.269 --> 47:44.149 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, I don't know. 47:44.269 --> 47:45.070 [SPEAKER_02]: I think, uh, 47:46.978 --> 47:47.819 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't have a good answer. 47:47.859 --> 48:01.026 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to be honest, I think this is like, like, manufacturing stuff like this is like a very difficult to do because you have, like, a wave problem, a strength problem, a manufacturing problem, and then like, every work, like, carbon do, like, components. 48:01.086 --> 48:01.587 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they do. 48:01.607 --> 48:02.567 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I hate fiberglass. 48:02.627 --> 48:07.110 [SPEAKER_00]: And I can imagine fiber, or I can imagine carbon fibers, like 10 times worse than fiberglass. 48:07.130 --> 48:07.610 [SPEAKER_02]: Something. 48:08.131 --> 48:11.993 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, same thing, but it's like, you know, maybe a little bit extra toxic. 48:12.233 --> 48:15.734 [SPEAKER_02]: I remember, um, in my, that is the sound. 48:15.754 --> 48:16.555 [SPEAKER_02]: See, that's the new sound. 48:16.575 --> 48:17.435 [SPEAKER_02]: It was like a frog. 48:17.535 --> 48:18.595 [SPEAKER_02]: Is that a conditioner cooked? 48:19.896 --> 48:20.996 [SPEAKER_02]: See, it sounds exactly like a frog. 48:21.016 --> 48:22.557 [SPEAKER_02]: A red, red, red, red, red, red. 48:22.997 --> 48:28.079 [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, in my senior design class in college, um, we built this airplane that couldn't fly. 48:28.539 --> 48:29.780 [SPEAKER_02]: It's really embarrassing, actually. 48:30.560 --> 48:32.200 [SPEAKER_02]: And, uh, I didn't have any part. 48:32.260 --> 48:33.461 [SPEAKER_02]: I like was building something else. 48:33.501 --> 48:34.641 [SPEAKER_02]: And my, my stuff did work. 48:35.402 --> 48:35.622 [SPEAKER_02]: And, 48:36.522 --> 48:43.283 [SPEAKER_02]: the composites team was using this, they got like extra pre pre pre-pressed. 48:43.303 --> 48:49.045 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they call it and it was like, you got to make the mold and then you got to like cut it to shape. 48:49.225 --> 48:55.666 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, wrap it around and then you put it in a bag and then you build it back and then you pick it in. 48:55.686 --> 48:57.426 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I'm like, you screw off that. 48:57.446 --> 48:58.767 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I don't care if it's a little bit heavy. 48:58.787 --> 49:00.767 [SPEAKER_02]: I'll just put a bigger motor and bigger batteries on it. 49:01.727 --> 49:02.928 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, oh my god. 49:02.948 --> 49:05.949 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, this plane, you know how heavy this is heavy? 49:05.969 --> 49:07.270 [SPEAKER_00]: Dude, it's way heavy. 49:07.290 --> 49:09.591 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, this was made to crash into a Holy shit. 49:09.611 --> 49:10.792 [SPEAKER_02]: That's the way heavier than I remember. 49:11.012 --> 49:14.234 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and then it doesn't have batteries or like electronics on it right now. 49:14.394 --> 49:15.614 [SPEAKER_00]: What's in here? 49:15.654 --> 49:16.295 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's so heavy. 49:16.315 --> 49:17.675 [SPEAKER_02]: Is it just the foam is like dense? 49:17.695 --> 49:19.556 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, there's like balsa wood in there. 49:20.076 --> 49:21.517 [SPEAKER_02]: This has been to crash into trees. 49:21.837 --> 49:22.177 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 49:23.898 --> 49:26.219 [SPEAKER_00]: The sea, sea res car in here. 49:26.480 --> 49:27.080 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think so. 49:28.765 --> 49:29.706 [SPEAKER_02]: Where did the better even go? 49:29.746 --> 49:31.707 [SPEAKER_00]: I think it went in the front. 49:32.167 --> 49:34.229 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there's no battery in here. 49:34.609 --> 49:35.169 [SPEAKER_02]: Damn. 49:35.810 --> 49:36.470 [SPEAKER_02]: Is it the phone? 49:36.850 --> 49:37.571 [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe the motors? 49:39.572 --> 49:40.032 [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe. 49:40.733 --> 49:41.473 [SPEAKER_00]: Why don't you see this? 49:42.714 --> 49:43.855 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I will eventually. 49:44.155 --> 49:44.275 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh. 49:45.156 --> 49:47.137 [SPEAKER_00]: If I need to, yeah, it'll work. 49:48.546 --> 49:50.167 [SPEAKER_02]: You haven't said what the video is not secret. 49:50.207 --> 49:50.968 [SPEAKER_02]: You can't spoil it. 49:50.988 --> 49:54.231 [SPEAKER_00]: This is just productive procrastination too. 49:54.271 --> 49:55.232 [SPEAKER_02]: It's a great video. 49:55.292 --> 49:57.814 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, but I mean, I still have to finish the other video I'm working on. 49:57.834 --> 50:01.777 [SPEAKER_02]: So this is, I built the weapon the US government is, it was to afraid of. 50:02.117 --> 50:04.899 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but what I'm saying is I shouldn't even be working on this. 50:05.640 --> 50:09.763 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, I think that if you have any sort of spur of motivation, you shouldn't take that. 50:09.783 --> 50:10.684 [SPEAKER_02]: Definitely, yeah. 50:12.065 --> 50:14.367 [SPEAKER_01]: Will you work on Nigel, Magnet Spanichance? 50:15.928 --> 50:17.089 [SPEAKER_01]: I actually haven't worked on it since, 50:18.091 --> 50:21.853 [SPEAKER_01]: Probably the last time I told you it all exploded mental health. 50:22.653 --> 50:23.573 [SPEAKER_01]: I will soon though. 50:23.653 --> 50:25.854 [SPEAKER_01]: I basically just have been prepping a lot of stuff. 50:25.874 --> 50:26.674 [SPEAKER_01]: I think I mentioned before. 50:26.695 --> 50:27.615 [SPEAKER_01]: I've just been cleaning. 50:28.395 --> 50:39.080 [SPEAKER_01]: I literally spent like probably a month just reorganizing everything because we were living in a disaster and just fixing a lot of stuff in general, just like file organization. 50:39.100 --> 50:41.821 [SPEAKER_01]: I read it the server so that it's not just like 50:43.133 --> 50:46.915 [SPEAKER_01]: You see I used to walk in that room and just be sad what I saw. 50:47.055 --> 50:49.356 [SPEAKER_01]: Just wires everywhere. 50:49.396 --> 50:49.917 [SPEAKER_01]: You have no deal. 50:49.937 --> 50:50.817 [SPEAKER_01]: What's going on. 50:50.837 --> 50:53.358 [SPEAKER_02]: There's a space to work. 50:53.578 --> 50:59.041 [SPEAKER_02]: Do you have any of those like things on your list that like if you're on your deathbed dying, you'll be like, I never did that. 50:59.061 --> 51:00.282 [SPEAKER_02]: It was the server one of them. 51:16.328 --> 51:26.177 [SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't 100% mandatory to do, but it was just such a quality of life upgrade. 51:26.317 --> 51:33.364 [SPEAKER_01]: Which is why every time there's Ed, it was just wiring, and then every time you know you add something new, you don't put it in properly. 51:33.424 --> 51:36.707 [SPEAKER_01]: So you're like, ah, whatever, and you just pile it next to the server rack. 51:37.128 --> 51:39.430 [SPEAKER_01]: And there's just like trash everywhere. 51:39.450 --> 51:40.211 [SPEAKER_01]: And then there's, 51:40.791 --> 52:00.908 [SPEAKER_01]: Huh, there was no space so anytime there's a problem I couldn't even get behind it So I have to like shake the whole thing and push on the wall and then some wire would get pulled out and then you you're like this sucks So it was just like but I only had to do that once every few months So you'd always be like, ah, it's fine But then when it happens you're like I actually Hate everything about it. 52:00.928 --> 52:03.129 [SPEAKER_02]: What about just like the server again? 52:03.149 --> 52:07.413 [SPEAKER_02]: Just the other church Are we talking just physical or like actually anything actually running on the server too? 52:08.099 --> 52:10.044 [SPEAKER_02]: Because that's a whole lot of the world of bullshit. 52:10.265 --> 52:11.047 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah. 52:12.390 --> 52:15.277 [SPEAKER_01]: It was mostly the physical side. 52:16.722 --> 52:17.382 [SPEAKER_01]: thankfully. 52:18.223 --> 52:28.649 [SPEAKER_02]: I remember like when I was doing big dumpy for like the footage dumping and I was like trying to connect it to the Synology NAS and I like trying to make an administrator account. 52:29.049 --> 52:40.276 [SPEAKER_02]: And I was like fully like, you know, I would never have done this without God, but I was like fully not even in the like brand-end of the like the desktop. 52:40.436 --> 52:42.137 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was it was completely like 52:45.239 --> 52:51.683 [SPEAKER_02]: You know like like terminal in those like like yeah, like installing like like docker I don't even remember. 52:51.703 --> 52:59.667 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't even know how to describe it like like like You're not using any functions that we're broken out by 53:01.464 --> 53:05.647 [SPEAKER_02]: the team that made the operating system for the synopsis. 53:05.687 --> 53:09.270 [SPEAKER_02]: It's like you're changing like, you know, I don't know enough. 53:09.290 --> 53:10.551 [SPEAKER_02]: It's all really hard to remember. 53:10.792 --> 53:12.013 [SPEAKER_02]: You're like very hacky. 53:12.473 --> 53:13.674 [SPEAKER_02]: I have no idea what's going on. 53:13.734 --> 53:15.876 [SPEAKER_02]: Half of it is like not working and then eventually it works. 53:15.956 --> 53:18.878 [SPEAKER_02]: And like that's my experience with with most servers. 53:18.958 --> 53:26.925 [SPEAKER_02]: And so I'm glad that your experience was wiring and not trying to figure out how to make one piece of technology talk to another. 53:28.774 --> 53:33.056 [SPEAKER_01]: Robably the reason for that is what I'm doing isn't that complicated. 53:33.196 --> 53:34.857 [SPEAKER_01]: Like the server have is not that complicated. 53:34.877 --> 53:35.518 [SPEAKER_01]: You have a battery bag. 53:35.558 --> 53:37.358 [SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't say I do. 53:37.659 --> 53:40.160 [SPEAKER_01]: Does that talk to the server because like that's a little fucking. 53:40.240 --> 53:40.600 [SPEAKER_01]: No. 53:41.180 --> 53:41.401 [SPEAKER_01]: No. 53:41.481 --> 53:42.301 [SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no. 53:42.521 --> 53:42.941 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. 53:44.022 --> 53:45.183 [SPEAKER_01]: It's a it's a dumb back. 53:45.203 --> 53:52.766 [SPEAKER_01]: Because you can like make this all turn itself off once the battery gets too low, but like do they like does you have to use the same fucking protocol? 53:52.827 --> 53:53.667 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know. 53:55.765 --> 53:56.526 [SPEAKER_01]: That's probably a good idea. 53:56.546 --> 54:00.531 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we've had power out just before and it just never was really a problem. 54:00.671 --> 54:00.811 [SPEAKER_02]: Mm. 54:01.152 --> 54:01.572 [SPEAKER_01]: That's good. 54:02.834 --> 54:03.975 [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, that is a good point. 54:03.995 --> 54:05.737 [SPEAKER_01]: You probably want to do that. 54:06.758 --> 54:07.379 [SPEAKER_01]: But no, thank you. 54:07.399 --> 54:10.703 [SPEAKER_01]: I have ubiquity and generally it just kind of works well. 54:12.302 --> 54:39.222 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean what it's funny when I first got it it didn't yeah, I remember I was trying to it like connect all these cameras and it was not working and it was the main thing and this was like in 2019 so it was at least now I find like when you Google search something like with the Gemini stuff It'd be like it's easier to type this is my problem and that it actually has a solution Who's a random string of my words that mean nothing to take that in the world? 54:39.282 --> 54:39.622 [SPEAKER_01]: I know 54:41.343 --> 54:52.832 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I had it plugged in and it was just like, it just wasn't working and it just, I had no idea what the problem was. 54:52.892 --> 55:00.938 [SPEAKER_01]: And as I spent like hours on forums, I'm downloading like all those like SSH programs and they're like, oh, you need to actually force a firmware update. 55:01.318 --> 55:03.699 [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, I don't know, it's, it's what you said. 55:03.719 --> 55:05.520 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like, I don't know what's happening. 55:05.620 --> 55:09.222 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just, people on these forums are just saying to type things. 55:09.442 --> 55:17.346 [SPEAKER_01]: Because I think there's a problem with the, um, uh, for whatever reason, the first thing I got was messed up. 55:17.626 --> 55:19.307 [SPEAKER_01]: But ever since then, it's never been a problem. 55:19.947 --> 55:24.728 [SPEAKER_01]: But it was just literally the first thing I ever bought from them had some weird firmware. 55:25.028 --> 55:29.810 [SPEAKER_01]: I think I, I did something and I think I bricked it when I was plugging it in. 55:30.210 --> 55:31.710 [SPEAKER_01]: So then I had to, it was a nightmare. 55:31.730 --> 55:33.431 [SPEAKER_01]: It took me like two days to fix it. 55:34.151 --> 55:37.672 [SPEAKER_02]: Have you ever had to youth like nano or Vim? 55:39.373 --> 55:40.333 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what that is. 55:41.068 --> 55:45.471 [SPEAKER_02]: This is like going to be a circumcision level conversation. 55:45.831 --> 55:46.191 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, people. 55:46.771 --> 55:47.452 [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, vim. 55:47.712 --> 55:52.595 [SPEAKER_02]: If you use vim, uh, uh, yeah, there's a lot of vim. 55:52.655 --> 55:54.356 [SPEAKER_02]: You're a psychotic. 55:54.436 --> 55:56.237 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, okay, I'm trying to figure out what's the worst. 55:56.357 --> 55:58.218 [SPEAKER_02]: A horse scroll or a Linux guy. 56:00.459 --> 56:00.979 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, man. 56:01.560 --> 56:05.702 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think I think I still got to hand it to the horse girls. 56:06.465 --> 56:06.865 [SPEAKER_00]: You know what? 56:07.145 --> 56:09.546 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think Sky though, you though, really. 56:09.607 --> 56:11.287 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think I'm on Team Horse Girl. 56:11.307 --> 56:12.248 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, yeah, yeah. 56:12.268 --> 56:14.469 [SPEAKER_02]: The next guys takes the take style here. 56:14.489 --> 56:15.069 [SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm. 56:15.950 --> 56:16.950 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah, why? 56:17.210 --> 56:18.311 [SPEAKER_00]: Cause it's, I don't know. 56:18.331 --> 56:23.353 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the joke is like horse girls just like, I don't know, talk about horses and stuff all the time. 56:23.393 --> 56:24.714 [SPEAKER_00]: What's better, horse girl or horse guy? 56:24.734 --> 56:25.654 [SPEAKER_00]: I just want to get this out of the way. 56:26.214 --> 56:28.195 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think I've met a horse, like a cowboy? 56:28.215 --> 56:29.576 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, cowboys are cool. 56:29.856 --> 56:30.496 [SPEAKER_02]: Cowboys are cool. 56:30.516 --> 56:32.037 [SPEAKER_02]: There's something about even cowgirls are cool. 56:32.057 --> 56:33.118 [SPEAKER_02]: There's something about horse girls. 56:33.218 --> 56:33.558 [SPEAKER_02]: Different. 56:33.978 --> 56:34.319 [SPEAKER_00]: It is. 56:34.399 --> 56:35.880 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, there is something different. 56:35.940 --> 56:37.002 [SPEAKER_02]: But Linux is worse. 56:37.022 --> 56:38.003 [SPEAKER_02]: Linux is worse. 56:38.083 --> 56:39.564 [SPEAKER_00]: Linux is way worse. 56:41.326 --> 56:41.727 [SPEAKER_00]: Linux. 56:42.567 --> 56:43.629 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they're the same. 56:43.749 --> 56:44.810 [SPEAKER_00]: Just like in a more fist. 56:44.830 --> 56:45.330 [SPEAKER_00]: Linux guy. 56:45.350 --> 56:45.771 [SPEAKER_00]: Linux. 56:45.871 --> 56:47.192 [SPEAKER_00]: You can't even tell honestly. 56:47.212 --> 56:48.053 [SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't even matter. 56:48.073 --> 56:49.475 [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, yeah. 56:49.495 --> 56:49.795 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. 56:49.815 --> 56:50.015 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. 56:50.035 --> 56:50.136 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 56:50.156 --> 56:51.197 [SPEAKER_02]: I just can't. 56:51.477 --> 56:54.821 [SPEAKER_00]: When I hear them talk, when I hear people talk about Linux, it makes me want to 56:55.672 --> 57:08.042 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I have a friend talked to a horse girl every time I need help with something and he like comes and he's just like, oh, like, yeah, like, like, uh, when the words them come out of his mouth, I say if you say the words them, I will what whales eat myself. 57:08.323 --> 57:13.207 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but there's something like there's like a superiority thing with it, too, you know, have you? 57:13.327 --> 57:20.113 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, imagine, uh, you remember South Park member of the car with like the wheel that you like had two handles and then the problem, but that's them. 57:20.833 --> 57:25.735 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, basically half just there's like a third mouse that goes into your ass like that's how you use them. 57:25.755 --> 57:44.501 [SPEAKER_02]: You have to become one with the matrix and like It's like oh, you got you got hot keys and a shortcut some of this and it's like the most fucking brain damage Yeah, I've ever seen in my life where I'm like this is there's no reason There's no fucking we imagine someone's like yeah, I use like a different keyboard And they have like a keyboard but like some of the kids. 57:44.521 --> 57:46.622 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's that's the Linux 5 I get is just like 57:46.982 --> 57:49.625 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I use those weird keyboards that are like, it's split apart. 57:49.645 --> 57:52.508 [SPEAKER_00]: But then it's also like, you can like, cup it in your hand when you type. 57:52.948 --> 57:53.188 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes. 57:53.388 --> 57:56.271 [SPEAKER_00]: It's so much more efficient and better and better than you wrong. 57:56.351 --> 57:57.232 [SPEAKER_00]: And it costs $500. 57:57.973 --> 57:58.454 [SPEAKER_02]: My God. 57:58.794 --> 57:59.875 [SPEAKER_02]: And I use, I use VIM. 57:59.895 --> 58:00.796 [SPEAKER_02]: I have a special VIM. 58:00.856 --> 58:01.797 [SPEAKER_00]: What is, what is VIM? 58:02.077 --> 58:03.058 [SPEAKER_02]: Vem is okay. 58:03.078 --> 58:06.899 [SPEAKER_02]: So if you're like living and you're having a good life and then yeah, that's fun. 58:07.019 --> 58:07.520 [SPEAKER_02]: That's okay. 58:07.880 --> 58:14.543 [SPEAKER_02]: So that wheel this right here is the computer and then the probes going into the character. 58:14.583 --> 58:15.083 [SPEAKER_02]: That's a Vem. 58:15.243 --> 58:16.203 [SPEAKER_02]: That's the probes. 58:16.223 --> 58:17.584 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's the probes. 58:17.644 --> 58:18.905 [SPEAKER_02]: And so you have to like 58:20.005 --> 58:47.263 [SPEAKER_02]: Do this and you just sort of be your fingers moving shit and then like words and come out and then it like does things like there's nothing wrong with a normal like a fucking Google Docs You could do every like you know when something is like you get like an extra 10% efficiency by like 10xing the how complicated it is Yeah, and like that's that's where you know like the Linux person is like They're so proud of how obnoxious they made something and like I know this is gonna piss off like three people real bad 58:48.023 --> 58:53.425 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, Nano is like, it's like the, uh, it's like the apology for them. 58:53.445 --> 59:00.547 [SPEAKER_02]: It's like, okay, here's something that is like just more closely resembles anything that makes any fucking sense when it comes to text editing. 59:00.567 --> 59:08.970 [SPEAKER_02]: Like I'm mad, like, I don't even know this is right or not, but like imagine Vim, you want to like go a line down, you hit like carrot six, but you can only hit the six on the number pad. 59:09.788 --> 59:11.028 [SPEAKER_02]: That's what Vim feels like. 59:11.048 --> 59:12.469 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's like, why? 59:12.829 --> 59:13.289 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 59:13.489 --> 59:18.370 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, because we optimized it for the distance between your fingers, at least I don't know. 59:18.390 --> 59:23.131 [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe it saved like a couple hundred thousand people from getting carpal tunnel earlier than they would have otherwise. 59:23.151 --> 59:29.813 [SPEAKER_02]: But like, John, okay, how do you look up like a basic Vim overview? 59:29.833 --> 59:30.373 [SPEAKER_02]: We need to do it. 59:30.393 --> 59:33.914 [SPEAKER_02]: Like I'm not joking, like it's horrible. 59:34.174 --> 59:35.894 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 59:36.094 --> 59:37.715 [SPEAKER_02]: And like people swear by it. 59:40.167 --> 59:42.668 [SPEAKER_02]: And I have some of those in my own life. 59:42.708 --> 59:43.688 [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe you just don't get it. 59:44.008 --> 59:44.648 [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe I don't get it. 59:44.708 --> 59:50.410 [SPEAKER_02]: Like some I've heard some people like Daniel Thrasher was telling me how he like test drove a Tesla a long time ago. 59:50.430 --> 59:53.171 [SPEAKER_02]: And he really didn't like the single pedal driving. 59:53.711 --> 59:54.011 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. 59:54.111 --> 59:55.171 [SPEAKER_02]: I was like, you're wrong. 59:55.211 --> 59:56.872 [SPEAKER_02]: The single pedal driving is the greatest thing. 59:56.892 --> 59:59.933 [SPEAKER_02]: Like any EV like the biggest benefit is the single pedal driving. 01:00:00.373 --> 01:00:03.954 [SPEAKER_02]: Other than being able to charge it home because you can literally just only use one pedal. 01:00:04.474 --> 01:00:06.515 [SPEAKER_02]: You don't need to use the brake pretty much ever. 01:00:06.615 --> 01:00:07.335 [SPEAKER_02]: Like sometimes you do. 01:00:08.215 --> 01:00:15.360 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you don't have to do that thing though, you know, it's like flapping your foot around like Yeah, I like this but it's so much better than than the problem. 01:00:15.440 --> 01:00:15.820 [SPEAKER_02]: Damn. 01:00:16.300 --> 01:00:16.620 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, shit. 01:00:16.660 --> 01:00:17.501 [SPEAKER_02]: I can't read the zoom in. 01:00:17.781 --> 01:00:18.282 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh my god. 01:00:18.702 --> 01:00:23.845 [SPEAKER_01]: But I want to ask one question before we do this because you guys are talking about cabways and stuff. 01:00:24.025 --> 01:00:26.687 [SPEAKER_01]: Why is it called a cowboy if he rides a horse? 01:00:29.017 --> 01:00:31.959 [SPEAKER_01]: Because, huh, well they chase cows. 01:00:32.279 --> 01:00:36.922 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but then it should be, hmmm. 01:00:37.002 --> 01:00:37.703 [SPEAKER_02]: That's a good question. 01:00:38.363 --> 01:00:39.364 [SPEAKER_02]: Why is he a cowboy? 01:00:39.384 --> 01:00:42.245 [SPEAKER_02]: So his job is to wrangle the cows. 01:00:43.586 --> 01:00:46.888 [SPEAKER_02]: So I think, here, here I'm out, but this is gonna sound fucking insane. 01:00:46.928 --> 01:00:48.409 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think he actually needs the horn. 01:00:49.330 --> 01:00:50.951 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think that could be a movie. 01:00:52.382 --> 01:00:56.386 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, the horseless cowboy where he does everything that a cowboy does he go? 01:00:56.406 --> 01:00:57.487 [SPEAKER_00]: Do you think of cowboy? 01:00:57.768 --> 01:01:00.491 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but it's just him running around like a fucking idiot. 01:01:01.472 --> 01:01:02.873 [SPEAKER_00]: Unlike running around. 01:01:02.893 --> 01:01:03.474 [SPEAKER_01]: Ooh, wait. 01:01:05.456 --> 01:01:06.077 [SPEAKER_02]: Roller skates. 01:01:06.897 --> 01:01:10.438 [SPEAKER_01]: Roller skates this idea. 01:01:10.458 --> 01:01:11.398 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know why. 01:01:11.418 --> 01:01:13.799 [SPEAKER_00]: Electrozer to like it. 01:01:14.959 --> 01:01:17.360 [SPEAKER_01]: I like it, but it feels a I generation. 01:01:17.380 --> 01:01:19.240 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to run up with that. 01:01:20.320 --> 01:01:25.221 [SPEAKER_01]: Do you don't you see I think it's like South Park when it's like a parody of what the execs in Hollywood. 01:01:26.122 --> 01:01:29.062 [SPEAKER_01]: All right, like would come up with I feel like that's it. 01:01:29.602 --> 01:01:32.143 [SPEAKER_00]: No, you actually do you do need a horse. 01:01:32.503 --> 01:01:35.884 [SPEAKER_02]: Where's I remember I've seen videos of not having a horse? 01:01:36.124 --> 01:02:00.858 [SPEAKER_00]: know why you need a horse because like you can't well you can't like how do you if you last a cow and you're just standing there it's going to take you for like a ride or another horse if that's holding on to you use the post for that so like would they last a cow and then they wrap it they like haven't wrapped around the the knob and then it's like that's like a break like a friction clutch. 01:02:01.538 --> 01:02:15.645 [SPEAKER_00]: They used to slow the animal down so the horse is kind of like and it smokes too like when they do it It goes like and like smoke comes off of the post That's that's it's kind of like charred probably and you can like lose your finger if you get it caught There yeah, it's cool. 01:02:15.665 --> 01:02:20.828 [SPEAKER_00]: There's some cool videos on YouTube a fingers getting ripped off I think so, but you don't see it. 01:02:20.968 --> 01:02:22.449 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, but here's cream. 01:02:22.729 --> 01:02:27.571 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah Okay, so it's called cowboy because they wrangle cows, but they write a horse. 01:02:27.712 --> 01:02:29.432 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you can't be a cowboy unless you write a horse 01:02:31.970 --> 01:02:33.231 [SPEAKER_02]: Is that the conclusion you've come to? 01:02:33.251 --> 01:02:34.271 [SPEAKER_02]: We all are okay with this. 01:02:34.932 --> 01:02:35.372 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 01:02:35.432 --> 01:02:35.712 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 01:02:36.572 --> 01:02:37.413 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, okay. 01:02:37.453 --> 01:02:37.773 [SPEAKER_02]: Vim. 01:02:37.873 --> 01:02:38.553 [SPEAKER_02]: They said. 01:02:40.234 --> 01:02:40.434 [SPEAKER_02]: All right. 01:02:40.535 --> 01:02:42.375 [SPEAKER_02]: I should ask why is Vim so should he? 01:02:42.876 --> 01:02:43.216 [SPEAKER_02]: Vim. 01:02:45.097 --> 01:02:50.160 [SPEAKER_02]: Vim is a highly efficient keyboard driven text editor found on almost every unix like system. 01:02:50.200 --> 01:02:51.380 [SPEAKER_02]: That is, yeah, you can see it. 01:02:51.400 --> 01:02:51.720 [SPEAKER_02]: I can write. 01:02:52.301 --> 01:02:53.701 [SPEAKER_02]: I think I'll push the pushes classes. 01:02:54.402 --> 01:02:59.845 [SPEAKER_02]: Vim is a highly efficient keyboard driven text editor found on either like the reflection 01:03:00.785 --> 01:03:03.868 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and the main music plays looks not a little bit. 01:03:03.908 --> 01:03:12.355 [SPEAKER_02]: Most important thing to understand about VIM is that it is modal, meaning the keys on your keyboard do different things depending on what mode you're currently in. 01:03:12.375 --> 01:03:14.336 [SPEAKER_02]: All right, all right. 01:03:14.356 --> 01:03:21.442 [SPEAKER_02]: So insert mode used for typing text just like a regular text editor press i to exit press escape. 01:03:21.482 --> 01:03:22.743 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, okay, I guess that kind of makes sense. 01:03:23.119 --> 01:03:26.782 [SPEAKER_02]: command line mode used for saving, quitting, and configuring VIM. 01:03:26.862 --> 01:03:33.046 [SPEAKER_02]: Press colon while in normal mode, I would say now we're now we're entering a state machine of from hell. 01:03:33.527 --> 01:03:41.113 [SPEAKER_02]: Essential commands and cheat sheets, colon W is right, which means to save the file, colon Q is quit. 01:03:41.193 --> 01:03:43.294 [SPEAKER_02]: Only works if you haven't made unsafe changes. 01:03:43.835 --> 01:03:45.336 [SPEAKER_02]: colon W Q. 01:03:45.356 --> 01:03:47.157 [SPEAKER_02]: So when do you type things? 01:03:47.177 --> 01:03:48.958 [SPEAKER_02]: So like, it's just like, if you're typing well, 01:03:51.960 --> 01:03:52.721 [SPEAKER_01]: I looked up VIM. 01:03:52.841 --> 01:04:02.583 [SPEAKER_01]: I looked up is VIM a good code editor and what it says is it's exceptionally good and powerful but it comes with a very steep learning curve. 01:04:02.904 --> 01:04:04.664 [SPEAKER_01]: I thought this was funny. 01:04:04.744 --> 01:04:05.924 [SPEAKER_01]: It says the downsides. 01:04:06.405 --> 01:04:13.127 [SPEAKER_01]: Memorizing key bindings and learning modal, modal editing takes a significant time and practice. 01:04:13.627 --> 01:04:17.388 [SPEAKER_01]: Many beginners struggle just trying to figure out how to exit the program. 01:04:19.308 --> 01:04:44.117 [SPEAKER_02]: Like do exactly it like you're sitting there and you're just like you start hitting keys It's like fucking just setting start changing and you're like what the bucket And you'll never get them back to normal No exactly and then you like what do you do like the thing that you know that is the safest to quit You just hit escape, but then like that doesn't work and now you're fucking trapped Uh-oh, and what's what's Neo Vem I hear people talking about card Maybe it's better 01:04:46.960 --> 01:04:48.703 [SPEAKER_02]: Dude, oh my god, there's so many shortcuts. 01:04:48.723 --> 01:04:51.208 [SPEAKER_02]: Let me, uh, NeoVem is better. 01:04:51.368 --> 01:04:52.611 [SPEAKER_02]: Now, well, this is the other three people. 01:04:52.631 --> 01:04:53.452 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not going to pissed off. 01:04:53.532 --> 01:04:54.534 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, NeoVem. 01:04:55.837 --> 01:04:56.478 [SPEAKER_01]: NeoVem. 01:04:59.013 --> 01:05:02.076 [SPEAKER_02]: Modernized community driven fork of the traditional vim editor. 01:05:02.096 --> 01:05:03.036 [SPEAKER_02]: We'll film us a fucking good. 01:05:03.056 --> 01:05:03.917 [SPEAKER_02]: Why would somebody fork it? 01:05:04.577 --> 01:05:05.478 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just asking questions. 01:05:05.598 --> 01:05:16.125 [SPEAKER_02]: It was created in 2014 to aggressive refactor Vim source code making it easier to maintain and introduce powerful features as ship the more cockies ah, if you meant neo-vim. 01:05:16.406 --> 01:05:17.947 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, maybe that's a different thing. 01:05:18.047 --> 01:05:20.969 [SPEAKER_02]: I have oh, yeah, there's there's oh Jesus Christ there's more this. 01:05:21.069 --> 01:05:24.531 [SPEAKER_00]: I typed it in wrong Yeah, like any OVIM 01:05:25.550 --> 01:05:29.804 [SPEAKER_02]: Like if you thought you knew how to use a text editor, you have no idea what Vim is. 01:05:31.058 --> 01:05:36.561 [SPEAKER_02]: It makes me feel like an old person and one of those fake homes where it's like, the retirement home, it's like a fake town. 01:05:36.601 --> 01:05:36.921 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 01:05:37.281 --> 01:05:38.822 [SPEAKER_02]: Where you're like, oh, I know what this is. 01:05:38.862 --> 01:05:43.584 [SPEAKER_02]: And you open a door and there's just like, draw my hand and I'm like, I'm like, you're a nightmare. 01:05:44.404 --> 01:05:50.047 [SPEAKER_02]: Vim is like, someone's like, all right, we realize it's more efficient to put the gas on the left and the brake on the right. 01:05:50.067 --> 01:05:52.168 [SPEAKER_02]: And then there's no, like, instructions anywhere. 01:05:52.188 --> 01:05:52.528 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah. 01:05:52.848 --> 01:05:57.851 [SPEAKER_02]: And so you just start clicking things and then your, your, your, your, your shittics blows, you're going 90 miles an hour in your garage. 01:05:59.131 --> 01:06:09.361 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, yeah, just like when you when you use your key to unlock the car, you just leave it in your door because it's more efficient like you don't have to bring the key inside You know, you just use it to unlock your door. 01:06:09.381 --> 01:06:11.082 [SPEAKER_00]: You leave it there on the car starts at the same time. 01:06:11.102 --> 01:06:11.623 [SPEAKER_00]: Exactly. 01:06:11.803 --> 01:06:13.865 [SPEAKER_02]: And the car just also starts driving at the same time. 01:06:13.965 --> 01:06:16.547 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you have to use the brake to slow down, but you can't turn the gas off. 01:06:17.602 --> 01:06:25.293 [SPEAKER_02]: asynchronous processing extensibility design that to let developers build advanced user interfaces and tools of the modifying the editor course. 01:06:25.313 --> 01:06:29.018 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh my gosh, it's so hot and talking about them is making me angry. 01:06:29.038 --> 01:06:31.882 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it's making me feel like I'm going to talk about Linux even thinking about Linux. 01:06:32.483 --> 01:06:32.503 [SPEAKER_02]: I 01:06:32.943 --> 01:06:35.625 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, make me with what we go with hockey's H move left. 01:06:35.645 --> 01:06:36.245 [SPEAKER_02]: J move down. 01:06:36.285 --> 01:06:36.805 [SPEAKER_02]: K move up. 01:06:37.026 --> 01:06:38.827 [SPEAKER_02]: I'll move right W jump forward. 01:06:38.847 --> 01:06:40.448 [SPEAKER_02]: No, no, I don't even want to know this. 01:06:40.508 --> 01:06:42.709 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't this is stupid nerd stuff. 01:06:42.749 --> 01:06:44.530 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't care about these stupid computer nerds. 01:06:44.550 --> 01:06:45.751 [SPEAKER_02]: Kevin, all you have to do is press W to jump forward. 01:06:45.771 --> 01:06:47.412 [SPEAKER_00]: Why can't they just like try to make that easier? 01:06:47.432 --> 01:06:49.433 [SPEAKER_00]: Why is it, why is it, you know, you're like, how do I do this? 01:06:49.453 --> 01:06:51.534 [SPEAKER_00]: And they're like, what is your real documentation? 01:06:51.554 --> 01:06:53.215 [SPEAKER_00]: Did you install the dependencies? 01:06:53.295 --> 01:06:54.876 [SPEAKER_02]: Money symbol jumped to the very end of the line. 01:06:54.896 --> 01:06:56.617 [SPEAKER_00]: How am I supposed to know what the dependencies are? 01:06:56.657 --> 01:06:58.058 [SPEAKER_00]: They're even listed. 01:06:58.078 --> 01:07:00.840 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just capital D go to the very last line of the file. 01:07:01.100 --> 01:07:02.200 [SPEAKER_02]: Who came up with a shit? 01:07:02.781 --> 01:07:03.761 [SPEAKER_02]: I enter Insert mode. 01:07:03.881 --> 01:07:04.721 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, open new line. 01:07:04.881 --> 01:07:05.461 [SPEAKER_02]: X, delete. 01:07:05.762 --> 01:07:07.162 [SPEAKER_02]: Single character under cursor. 01:07:07.442 --> 01:07:08.422 [SPEAKER_02]: What does that mean? 01:07:08.442 --> 01:07:11.403 [SPEAKER_00]: It means it's time to do the extra. 01:07:11.724 --> 01:07:12.924 [SPEAKER_00]: And dingy, delete. 01:07:13.584 --> 01:07:14.304 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, all right, guys. 01:07:14.324 --> 01:07:20.707 [SPEAKER_02]: We'll see you on Patreon and we're on Patreon and go over every single VIMM shortcut. 01:07:22.027 --> 01:07:26.689 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, this is freaking, I think you're just a, I think you're a hater and it's all here. 01:07:26.709 --> 01:07:27.309 [SPEAKER_02]: It's all here. 01:07:28.209 --> 01:07:29.029 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm a hater. 01:07:31.323 --> 01:07:32.124 [SPEAKER_02]: I write all my code. 01:07:32.144 --> 01:07:33.005 [SPEAKER_02]: It's all Google Docs. 01:07:34.306 --> 01:07:37.249 [SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, you should write your code by hand. 01:07:38.531 --> 01:07:40.373 [SPEAKER_01]: You write all my code on password. 01:07:40.793 --> 01:07:48.522 [SPEAKER_02]: And then I scan it into Google Search and then the Google Search text to speech and then I just speech to text. 01:07:49.082 --> 01:07:54.731 [SPEAKER_00]: Can you imagine somebody like sitting down at a cafe writing code by hand in a, in a, in a, No, fuck. 01:07:54.931 --> 01:07:55.592 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, shit. 01:07:55.712 --> 01:07:56.173 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 01:07:57.014 --> 01:08:03.444 [SPEAKER_02]: Psycho never ever take candy or get in a car with someone that writes code on paper. 01:08:03.524 --> 01:08:03.744 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 01:08:03.784 --> 01:08:04.726 [SPEAKER_00]: What about a typewriter? 01:08:05.467 --> 01:08:06.188 [SPEAKER_02]: That's cool. 01:08:06.428 --> 01:08:08.491 [SPEAKER_02]: I would think it could have been different. 01:08:08.551 --> 01:08:09.793 [SPEAKER_02]: All right. 01:08:09.833 --> 01:08:12.958 [SPEAKER_02]: So you guys on Patreon are going to ask, you can't see a really good questions.