WEBVTT 00:04.005 --> 00:06.086 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm a gay up name for a gay up podcast. 00:07.126 --> 00:11.828 [SPEAKER_01]: Colin Braun is making his grand return to that's a gay ass podcast. 00:11.868 --> 00:16.810 [SPEAKER_01]: Colin, people loved your hairy episode almost a calendar year ago. 00:16.930 --> 00:19.571 [SPEAKER_01]: How does it feel back to be on this gay ass pod? 00:20.571 --> 00:21.892 [SPEAKER_00]: It feels very good to be back. 00:22.612 --> 00:26.794 [SPEAKER_00]: And because last time when you asked me to be on, I thought, oh, they're out of other people. 00:27.794 --> 00:30.075 [SPEAKER_00]: And now you're asking me to be on a second time. 00:30.115 --> 00:31.615 [SPEAKER_00]: And I think they're really out of other people. 00:34.238 --> 00:38.781 [SPEAKER_01]: Wow, that was so sweet that you could sort of show your gratitude. 00:38.801 --> 00:40.802 [SPEAKER_01]: We'll also drag in the podcast by soon. 00:40.842 --> 00:45.644 [SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, no, you've had on an illustrious group of people. 00:46.425 --> 00:59.332 [SPEAKER_00]: And so when you asked me to be on, I was like, there's no way I'm a few weeks after Gus can where they and they're still like, I just figured like, you were busy or he was busy and you did everyone else and then you finally got to him and they like, well, I guess we can 01:00.297 --> 01:21.077 [SPEAKER_01]: is Colin Brown available he must be I'm I'm very easy to make now you've done a beautiful full circle by name dropping the Gus Kenworthy episode so people go back into the feed and find that go back in the feed and find Collins episode from November of last year because you gave us a lot of good good insights into your life actually at the time you were a single 01:21.857 --> 01:32.686 [SPEAKER_01]: newly moved to Dublin gay man and now you have a gorgeous ginger boy friend, which we are going to get into that, we are going to get into you've become a Jim bro. 01:32.826 --> 01:34.067 [SPEAKER_01]: I want to know what you're running from. 01:34.727 --> 01:38.530 [SPEAKER_01]: We also want to talk about your show in stitches. 01:38.570 --> 01:40.352 [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to talk some ADHD. 01:41.232 --> 01:48.538 [SPEAKER_01]: Your pickup line, which is are you a top, but the first thing I want to ask you is, and may of this year, you turn 33 years old Colin Bronle. 01:51.000 --> 02:03.804 [SPEAKER_01]: your Jesus here, which is widely viewed as a period of profound personal transformation, maturity and spiritual re-evaluation Colin, are you feeling said transformation this year? 02:04.564 --> 02:14.827 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I was bulking all year up until May and then after about a week after my birthday, I started eating salads all the time. 02:14.847 --> 02:15.847 [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm down 20 pounds. 02:17.550 --> 02:22.393 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, the last time last time I was on I was also down 20 pounds. 02:22.453 --> 02:31.537 [SPEAKER_00]: So I've I lost 20 pounds and then I was on last time and then I started lifting a ton of ways and gained a lot of weight and now I'm down 20 pounds again, but it's a different 20 pounds. 02:31.898 --> 02:38.441 [SPEAKER_01]: So you're saying if I ask any gay man about his Jesus here, he'll only refer to the transformation as cutting and bulking. 02:38.681 --> 02:40.542 [SPEAKER_01]: We are not okay. 02:41.743 --> 02:42.323 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, pretty much. 02:43.568 --> 02:58.314 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I'm thrilled that you have gained weight and lost it, and as they say, it's the circle of life, which I guess, since you did answer with the fitness sort of insight, let's talk about the Jim Browadness. 02:58.875 --> 03:04.317 [SPEAKER_01]: Are you suggest prioritizing your health or are you trying to fill a void? 03:05.337 --> 03:10.239 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I started a new job in January, which moved me out to the middle of nowhere in a county 03:12.438 --> 03:22.565 [SPEAKER_00]: I guess it's the Ohio of Ireland, and I was living in this small town with nothing to do, and so I would get to work and go home. 03:23.005 --> 03:27.028 [SPEAKER_00]: And it was, I lasted about two days before I realized, you know, I'm just going to get in shape. 03:27.068 --> 03:27.708 [SPEAKER_00]: It's the new year. 03:28.189 --> 03:28.409 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 03:28.589 --> 03:33.072 [SPEAKER_00]: And so I just started going, and I've been to the gym 163 times this year. 03:33.592 --> 03:34.173 [SPEAKER_01]: Wow. 03:34.433 --> 03:36.454 [SPEAKER_01]: And tell the girls listening, 03:40.120 --> 03:42.482 [SPEAKER_00]: it averages to, I think, five. 03:43.043 --> 03:43.363 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. 03:43.724 --> 03:44.004 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. 03:44.024 --> 03:49.189 [SPEAKER_01]: So you're not giving like sort of problematic seven days a week, no breaks. 03:49.750 --> 03:50.210 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no, no. 03:50.470 --> 03:52.052 [SPEAKER_00]: It averages out to five. 03:52.772 --> 03:54.334 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that was the stick for a month. 03:55.338 --> 03:57.340 [SPEAKER_00]: So there've been plenty of seven day weeks. 03:57.740 --> 03:59.221 [SPEAKER_01]: Colin, I fear. 03:59.501 --> 04:05.786 [SPEAKER_01]: I fear for your brain, but I also am thankful for the thirst traps that you've been posting. 04:06.187 --> 04:10.170 [SPEAKER_01]: In fact, so many thirst traps have been popping up on Colin Bronze Instagram. 04:10.830 --> 04:11.651 [SPEAKER_01]: It's be honest. 04:11.811 --> 04:13.172 [SPEAKER_01]: Is that actually why you're working out? 04:13.352 --> 04:15.234 [SPEAKER_01]: Just to post more of your hairy tits getting bigger? 04:15.956 --> 04:17.878 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's not too post-it. 04:18.078 --> 04:23.243 [SPEAKER_00]: It's good to have in the backlog, because while I was living in the middle of nowhere, I wasn't performing stand-up anywhere. 04:23.883 --> 04:25.244 [SPEAKER_00]: So I wasn't writing much. 04:25.304 --> 04:27.787 [SPEAKER_00]: I wasn't getting clips which are what I would normally be putting up. 04:28.767 --> 04:34.352 [SPEAKER_00]: And so I also had a new boyfriend who was not actually in Ireland for a few months. 04:36.134 --> 04:36.414 [SPEAKER_00]: I know. 04:36.654 --> 04:39.077 [SPEAKER_00]: We started dating in November, and then in January he 04:42.115 --> 04:49.099 [SPEAKER_00]: And I figured, because I'm terrified of being abandoned, rejected and dumped, because it's it's happened a few times. 04:50.180 --> 04:54.863 [SPEAKER_00]: And I thought, well, when he gets back, if I'm in bed or shape, he won't leave me. 04:54.923 --> 04:59.386 [SPEAKER_01]: See, that is what I was wanting to get to the bottom of. 04:59.806 --> 05:02.208 [SPEAKER_01]: You're trying to work out so you don't lose your boyfriend. 05:03.208 --> 05:06.751 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, and then if he does leave me, I won't be single for 05:10.542 --> 05:12.063 [SPEAKER_00]: I am in better shape than I used to be. 05:12.203 --> 05:13.384 [SPEAKER_00]: That's the inner monologue. 05:13.464 --> 05:14.525 [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't say it was healthy. 05:14.865 --> 05:26.152 [SPEAKER_01]: And thank you for the disclaimer, because I want to respond by saying, your experience is valid, your tits are big, your arms are bigger, your heart is gold, your boyfriend loves you. 05:26.533 --> 05:31.156 [SPEAKER_01]: But also, if you were to get dumped, I don't think that you having a 05:31.616 --> 05:37.218 [SPEAKER_01]: bigger muscle body would actually guarantee that you would be even in an emotional state to be in a relationship again. 05:37.318 --> 05:41.779 [SPEAKER_01]: I think some of the most ripped people are the most devastatingly single. 05:43.660 --> 05:44.120 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah. 05:44.820 --> 05:45.120 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. 05:45.840 --> 05:57.104 [SPEAKER_00]: Being devastatingly single while being a good shape is more fun than being devastatingly single and the sort of pillowcase stuffed with mason jar lids look that I was 05:58.252 --> 05:58.873 [SPEAKER_00]: a few decades. 05:59.133 --> 05:59.414 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, wow. 05:59.434 --> 06:01.136 [SPEAKER_01]: What a really vivid image. 06:01.556 --> 06:04.119 [SPEAKER_01]: No, it's funny because you and I are both on a fitness journey. 06:04.319 --> 06:10.307 [SPEAKER_01]: I did for the first time a third Strap yesterday holding up a bicep, which I've never ever ever 06:11.188 --> 06:16.592 [SPEAKER_01]: felt like I would whatever want to do, but in a way, it's almost like our own drag, right? 06:16.652 --> 06:18.933 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like geek eyes going to the gym. 06:19.173 --> 06:32.982 [SPEAKER_01]: We're sort of cosplaying as masculine, bros, hip-hounds, pus, but really you are someone who likes your posts to be pounded, which is something that will be discussed on the subsdeck side of this portion. 06:33.103 --> 06:35.444 [SPEAKER_01]: How do you feel about me saying pounded pussy this early? 06:37.205 --> 06:39.727 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I know that the HR lady at my work, 06:40.392 --> 06:41.513 [SPEAKER_00]: Follows me on Instagram. 06:41.553 --> 06:44.614 [SPEAKER_00]: So as long as this doesn't make it into a clip, I think I'll be fine. 06:45.334 --> 06:45.834 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, don't worry. 06:45.874 --> 06:50.756 [SPEAKER_01]: I'll keep pounded, puts off of Instagram for you at least Colin Braun. 06:50.776 --> 06:57.159 [SPEAKER_01]: But listen, the last time you came on this podcast, I asked you the famous podcast question for whose fault is it that you're gay. 06:57.239 --> 07:02.201 [SPEAKER_01]: But for returners and yes, Colin Braun, it is an honor to have you as a returner. 07:02.782 --> 07:05.223 [SPEAKER_01]: I would love to ask you the follow up question, which is, 07:06.123 --> 07:16.071 [SPEAKER_01]: Who was your first gay call in brawn which was the person on TV or in the class of room or at the YMCA were you said that one. 07:16.932 --> 07:28.922 [SPEAKER_00]: Technically Ellen to generous right my family we were just in Vermont and we were watching daytime television and my mom put on Ellen to generous and she explained to us what a lesbian is. 07:29.782 --> 07:33.725 [SPEAKER_01]: Are you talking about sitcom or hosted television show? 07:33.745 --> 07:36.347 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, oh, because you're young. 07:37.108 --> 07:37.388 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 07:37.808 --> 07:38.749 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm only 33. 07:39.489 --> 07:40.310 [SPEAKER_01]: As we said. 07:40.890 --> 07:45.054 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, so you saw the lesbian Ellen on your television screen. 07:45.614 --> 07:50.918 [SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, being from Vermont, I'm going to hope that your family was pro lesbian, because you were surrounded by the stuff. 07:51.699 --> 07:53.019 [SPEAKER_00]: Technically, we're from Massachusetts. 07:53.060 --> 07:54.721 [SPEAKER_00]: We were just in Vermont at the time. 07:54.741 --> 07:55.141 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 07:55.181 --> 07:55.521 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. 07:55.601 --> 07:55.902 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. 07:57.141 --> 07:59.263 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, we were not in anti lesbian family. 07:59.483 --> 08:01.504 [SPEAKER_00]: In fact, I'm still pro lesbian to this day. 08:02.845 --> 08:04.987 [SPEAKER_01]: Bold statement coming from Colin Braun. 08:05.427 --> 08:14.893 [SPEAKER_01]: So if Allen was your first lesbian on screen, do you remember obviously like, like actually not obviously, when did you end up coming out? 08:14.973 --> 08:19.877 [SPEAKER_01]: Did you come out while you were still a high school or living with your family or did you wait until you 08:25.425 --> 08:27.267 [SPEAKER_01]: Because I just want to tell you the queen. 08:27.308 --> 08:27.888 [SPEAKER_01]: I love that. 08:27.988 --> 08:28.289 [SPEAKER_00]: I know. 08:28.649 --> 08:32.374 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I didn't like being in the closet just felt dishonest. 08:33.295 --> 08:34.657 [SPEAKER_00]: That was the biggest problem for me. 08:35.808 --> 08:43.151 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, and now ironically, I don't come out to people because I think it's funny to see how long it takes them to figure out if I'm gay or not. 08:44.071 --> 08:45.171 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, like, no one in my job. 08:45.211 --> 08:48.993 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think any of them have figured it out, except the HR lady who follows me on Instagram. 08:49.013 --> 08:52.274 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to say until your HR lady sees this episode. 08:52.574 --> 08:56.995 [SPEAKER_01]: Will you please describe the 18th birthday event? 08:57.496 --> 09:00.677 [SPEAKER_01]: Were you proclaimed loud and proud that you suck D? 09:00.777 --> 09:01.437 [SPEAKER_01]: How did it go down? 09:02.764 --> 09:06.647 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, I just changed my Facebook profile interested in thing. 09:08.328 --> 09:10.730 [SPEAKER_00]: And I put a status that said, sorry, ladies. 09:11.491 --> 09:15.353 [SPEAKER_00]: And then the next day of school, I just started telling people. 09:16.154 --> 09:17.995 [SPEAKER_00]: And if I'm honest, I don't think I was ready. 09:18.015 --> 09:19.336 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, really? 09:19.356 --> 09:20.537 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 09:21.838 --> 09:23.319 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I don't know. 09:23.339 --> 09:25.561 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think I really accepted it yet. 09:25.661 --> 09:26.401 [SPEAKER_00]: Like I knew it. 09:27.562 --> 09:30.304 [SPEAKER_00]: And it was a fact, okay, I am a homosexual. 09:30.644 --> 09:31.205 [SPEAKER_00]: Right. 09:31.876 --> 09:46.510 [SPEAKER_01]: But identity as a gay man wasn't something I like felt yet and I think that that might have jumped the gun on that, but don't you think that fake it to you make it is actually a pretty smart strategy for a lot of us who are trying to live more authentic lives. 09:47.411 --> 09:52.115 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I would say you need to come out and you need to get over yourself. 09:52.675 --> 09:54.697 [SPEAKER_00]: I think it just took me longer to get over myself. 09:55.438 --> 09:56.419 [SPEAKER_00]: I think it probably should have. 09:56.862 --> 09:57.583 [SPEAKER_01]: Now that makes sense. 09:57.623 --> 10:04.628 [SPEAKER_01]: So I think we have to be kind to the younger versions of us who were coming out because I finally enough was also 18. 10:05.128 --> 10:08.971 [SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't my birthday, but it was also the end since you're a spring baby. 10:08.991 --> 10:11.734 [SPEAKER_01]: It was the end of my senior year of high school. 10:12.174 --> 10:12.694 [SPEAKER_01]: And I don't know. 10:12.714 --> 10:20.380 [SPEAKER_01]: That's a good time to come out, I think, because you know that even if you're bullied within an inch of your life, there will be a new crop of kids bullying you in college the next year. 10:25.653 --> 10:29.895 [SPEAKER_00]: I went to UC Davis, which is in California, shout out. 10:30.075 --> 10:39.779 [SPEAKER_01]: So you've lived such an interesting life because you went to UC Davis, your families from Massachusetts, you lived in San Francisco, you fled the country after Trump was elected. 10:40.739 --> 10:42.540 [SPEAKER_01]: Now you're living in Ireland. 10:42.800 --> 10:49.283 [SPEAKER_01]: Will you say the name of the Ohio town that you have been living in, but with an Irish accent? 10:50.483 --> 10:51.204 [SPEAKER_00]: It was the county 10:55.691 --> 10:56.232 [SPEAKER_00]: long for it. 10:57.072 --> 10:58.634 [SPEAKER_00]: It's not a very good one. 10:59.074 --> 11:02.417 [SPEAKER_01]: No, I think are really the are the are did it for me. 11:02.937 --> 11:08.883 [SPEAKER_01]: How has it been living abroad looking at America's journey? 11:09.023 --> 11:12.025 [SPEAKER_01]: You left because obviously fascism was on the rise. 11:12.626 --> 11:14.247 [SPEAKER_01]: Are you happy you made the move? 11:14.267 --> 11:18.211 [SPEAKER_01]: Do you have any regrets for having left the hunch? 11:18.611 --> 11:19.452 [SPEAKER_01]: What's the status? 11:20.578 --> 11:27.981 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't I don't think I have regrets like I do miss living in San Francisco and I miss my dog and my friends and all that stuff. 11:28.782 --> 11:32.563 [SPEAKER_00]: And San Francisco's a beautiful city and the rent has just exploded since I left. 11:33.304 --> 11:36.745 [SPEAKER_00]: So it's not like I can just roll back in right. 11:37.225 --> 11:43.388 [SPEAKER_00]: But no, I remember when he was in office the first time waking up in a cold sweat every day for four years. 11:44.409 --> 11:49.712 [SPEAKER_00]: because my ADHD hyper focus is such that I'm just going to pay attention to things when they're falling apart around me. 11:50.152 --> 11:50.412 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 11:50.592 --> 11:55.135 [SPEAKER_00]: But now, I mean, it's just, it's on the other side of the Atlantic. 11:55.655 --> 11:57.996 [SPEAKER_01]: So what are you paying attention to when you wake up these mornings? 11:58.577 --> 12:05.340 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I'll still like look at headlines, but I won't feel the existential fear like I did the last time he was in office. 12:05.720 --> 12:05.961 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 12:06.601 --> 12:08.382 [SPEAKER_00]: And that's really all, all it takes. 12:09.030 --> 12:11.351 [SPEAKER_00]: No, I'm just kind of interpreted as it happens. 12:11.712 --> 12:12.072 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 12:12.172 --> 12:14.934 [SPEAKER_01]: No, I think that distance is really lovely for you. 12:14.954 --> 12:24.600 [SPEAKER_01]: I am someone who this morning was reading all the stupid headlines and having the very, very real thought of one day, this won't be the case. 12:24.740 --> 12:28.982 [SPEAKER_01]: Not only will we be living in a life where he is not in office anymore. 12:30.383 --> 12:36.207 [SPEAKER_01]: But when he's also not on this plane, I just, I don't know. 12:36.267 --> 12:38.588 [SPEAKER_01]: What do you envision yourself doing when that day happens? 12:38.668 --> 12:39.949 [SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, we'll be in the streets. 12:40.069 --> 12:40.950 [SPEAKER_01]: But I don't know. 12:40.970 --> 12:49.195 [SPEAKER_01]: Do you have a manifestation for what will happen when the curse has been lifted at least from his time on the serve? 12:49.695 --> 12:53.017 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, what he leaves office, I will breathe very deeply. 12:53.177 --> 12:56.939 [SPEAKER_00]: Like I did the last time at 1201 on January 20th of 2021. 13:01.060 --> 13:29.756 [SPEAKER_00]: And then this time it will be the same, but I will also feel like it was bad enough the first time, but now it's like even worse because it's still going which means that when we are through all this and looking back we are going to laugh at how hilariously they ended up failing and I know this is wrong to say wrong to say I listen to that Charlie Kirk song all the time because it always puts me in a good mood. 13:31.413 --> 13:32.134 [SPEAKER_01]: what song is it? 13:32.534 --> 13:33.354 [SPEAKER_01]: Can you give us a little? 13:34.195 --> 13:36.677 [SPEAKER_00]: We are Charlie Kirk. 13:37.297 --> 13:39.499 [SPEAKER_00]: We carry the flame. 13:39.599 --> 13:40.299 [SPEAKER_00]: It's so funny. 13:41.600 --> 13:42.861 [SPEAKER_00]: And there's oh my god. 13:42.921 --> 13:43.862 [SPEAKER_00]: My new pump up song. 13:45.563 --> 13:48.305 [SPEAKER_00]: Someone with AI music technology. 13:48.365 --> 13:49.025 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what they did. 13:49.406 --> 13:55.430 [SPEAKER_00]: But they took the Charlie Kirk song and they made a Japanese anime intro song. 13:56.200 --> 14:03.402 [SPEAKER_00]: based off of it and it is such a headbanger like I listened to it at the gym to get me through heavy heavy squats. 14:04.326 --> 14:05.166 [SPEAKER_00]: it's so funny. 14:05.546 --> 14:15.369 [SPEAKER_01]: You know what's beautiful about this is that even if your HR lady is watching this, it is not her government or her country, and she does not care at all. 14:15.569 --> 14:17.949 [SPEAKER_01]: However, over here she is. 14:18.590 --> 14:21.670 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm shaking my boots in my American apartment. 14:21.710 --> 14:27.332 [SPEAKER_01]: Now thinking what SWAT team is about to show up here, but I love that you get to live 14:28.612 --> 14:33.035 [SPEAKER_01]: And love your Charlie Kirk pride at least music leave. 14:33.395 --> 14:46.043 [SPEAKER_00]: I will say Charlie Kirk is Princess Diana for assholes because the level of tragedy that they feel is the same as we feel for Princess Diana. 14:46.863 --> 14:49.505 [SPEAKER_00]: And they really wanted it to be the national tragedy. 14:50.926 --> 14:54.188 [SPEAKER_00]: But it just didn't happen and that song was no candle in the wind. 14:56.761 --> 15:16.616 [SPEAKER_00]: But yes, I think we are going to be seeing and I can't wait for this for the rest of my life in thrift shops to see little charlie Kirk commemorative lights and coins and coasters and magnets for the rest of our lives we're going to see these and I'm going to laugh every time and probably buy them well I will just say I 15:18.749 --> 15:24.393 [SPEAKER_01]: Here you, I validate you, and I am not going to continue talking about this. 15:24.953 --> 15:34.921 [SPEAKER_01]: Colin Braun, the next topic that we're going to get into is something gay, which is not Charlie Kirk. 15:35.401 --> 15:37.542 [SPEAKER_01]: It's your boyfriend. 15:37.843 --> 15:45.388 [SPEAKER_01]: Colin Braun, you were married and divorced in your late 20s. 15:49.495 --> 15:51.457 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, 29. 15:51.637 --> 15:55.199 [SPEAKER_00]: I was 28 when I got divorced, and I dropped 29 a month back. 15:55.560 --> 15:56.360 [SPEAKER_01]: What a life. 15:56.721 --> 16:00.964 [SPEAKER_01]: So now you are dating a beautiful ginger man. 16:01.304 --> 16:03.645 [SPEAKER_01]: He was away for six months. 16:04.006 --> 16:05.006 [SPEAKER_01]: He is now back. 16:05.607 --> 16:06.808 [SPEAKER_01]: Do he does he live close to you? 16:06.848 --> 16:07.128 [SPEAKER_01]: I hope. 16:08.385 --> 16:12.126 [SPEAKER_00]: He lives about an hour outside of Dublin, but his sister lives in Dublin. 16:12.146 --> 16:16.128 [SPEAKER_00]: So he'll go and visit his sister and his nephew on like a Friday. 16:16.228 --> 16:18.688 [SPEAKER_00]: And then come up and spend like Friday night and Saturday. 16:19.769 --> 16:20.309 [SPEAKER_01]: Beautiful. 16:20.369 --> 16:25.471 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, obviously, I'm going to ask a few more questions about the BTS over on the pay while it's side of this. 16:25.531 --> 16:30.452 [SPEAKER_01]: But sort of zooming out question is, how did you meet this beautiful man? 16:32.033 --> 16:32.453 [SPEAKER_00]: On his. 16:34.357 --> 16:39.501 [SPEAKER_00]: And I moved to Dublin, and then we started talking on hinge, and then I went to Greece for a month. 16:40.862 --> 16:42.583 [SPEAKER_00]: And so then I kind of forgot about them. 16:43.664 --> 16:46.926 [SPEAKER_00]: And then I came back and then remembered, oh yeah, there was that guy. 16:47.887 --> 16:53.511 [SPEAKER_00]: And it was really funny because his hinge pictures, the pictures on his hinge profile, none of them were particularly clear. 16:54.211 --> 16:57.434 [SPEAKER_00]: Like one of them he's facing away from the camera, looking at the ocean. 16:58.054 --> 17:01.677 [SPEAKER_00]: Another one, he's like playing a guitar, facing down in blue light. 17:02.641 --> 17:04.843 [SPEAKER_00]: another one he's in sunglasses. 17:06.104 --> 17:08.146 [SPEAKER_00]: I was his waiting for him to show up on our first date. 17:08.166 --> 17:08.747 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm at this bar. 17:08.787 --> 17:10.548 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, okay, we'll see what he looks like. 17:10.969 --> 17:13.210 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, the way that all gays have felt at some point. 17:13.671 --> 17:13.891 [SPEAKER_00]: Right. 17:14.271 --> 17:16.313 [SPEAKER_00]: Sitting waiting, I hope he's attractive. 17:17.074 --> 17:21.318 [SPEAKER_00]: And then I just kind of see him walk in and I turn and look as he comes around this column. 17:22.038 --> 17:25.862 [SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, oh, hi. 17:27.243 --> 17:28.264 [SPEAKER_00]: And he's really cute. 17:29.210 --> 17:33.660 [SPEAKER_01]: he is so cute, first date happens was there a smooch at the end. 17:35.139 --> 17:35.419 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes. 17:36.140 --> 17:36.660 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, there was. 17:36.680 --> 17:37.541 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. 17:37.661 --> 17:37.981 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. 17:38.041 --> 17:38.322 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. 17:38.342 --> 17:40.283 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to ask more specifics of Smooch. 17:40.303 --> 17:43.966 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to ask more specifics of his personality today. 17:44.387 --> 17:49.171 [SPEAKER_01]: I want to ask how your rejection sensitivity with your ADHD has been going. 17:50.272 --> 18:00.500 [SPEAKER_01]: But before we do that, speaking of relationships, last time we spoke, you said after your divorce, you drank too much and we're a total mess. 18:00.920 --> 18:03.803 [SPEAKER_01]: How's the drinking now, Colin, you're drinking the water during this interview? 18:05.337 --> 18:06.358 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, yes, that's true. 18:06.378 --> 18:10.581 [SPEAKER_00]: So since I've been losing weight, I had to cut back to one point a week. 18:11.622 --> 18:14.664 [SPEAKER_00]: So it's going very well. 18:15.345 --> 18:17.286 [SPEAKER_01]: What day of the week are we doing our pint. 18:18.487 --> 18:23.631 [SPEAKER_00]: So for a while, it was Friday because I was living in a little town in the middle of nowhere. 18:24.011 --> 18:24.752 [SPEAKER_00]: I was commuting. 18:25.993 --> 18:29.314 [SPEAKER_00]: it to limerick four nights a week because that's how construction works. 18:29.334 --> 18:30.854 [SPEAKER_00]: You're just sometimes you're away. 18:31.294 --> 18:31.494 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 18:31.814 --> 18:46.737 [SPEAKER_00]: And then on Fridays I would come back and I would unpack my van and put everything into my house and then I would go to the pub that I was renting the little cottage from and I would have one pint and I would take 40 minutes to drink it and then I would go home and I did that 18:51.410 --> 18:55.471 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, the true journalist a question is, you're drinking less. 18:55.791 --> 18:56.811 [SPEAKER_01]: You're working out more. 18:57.291 --> 18:58.892 [SPEAKER_01]: You're dating a cute ginger. 18:59.292 --> 19:01.752 [SPEAKER_01]: Would you say that you are in a happy period? 19:01.772 --> 19:03.833 [SPEAKER_01]: Do you feel better in this fitness journey? 19:03.873 --> 19:06.073 [SPEAKER_00]: I feel I feel fantastic. 19:06.593 --> 19:11.194 [SPEAKER_00]: Every day, it's like three years ago, everything was falling apart. 19:11.254 --> 19:13.495 [SPEAKER_00]: Life has no meaning as terrible and in it. 19:15.175 --> 19:17.696 [SPEAKER_00]: And now I'm just like, oh, I have to get 19:20.888 --> 19:24.809 [SPEAKER_00]: And that's the worst part of my day is just the time I have to get to work. 19:25.669 --> 19:26.810 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't even hate my job. 19:27.890 --> 19:29.030 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, wow. 19:29.731 --> 19:31.291 [SPEAKER_01]: I was so happy for you, Colin. 19:31.311 --> 19:36.913 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like all we want is to have our complaints be about being somewhere early. 19:37.233 --> 19:41.414 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, may that be the blessing we all have. 19:42.395 --> 20:02.311 [SPEAKER_01]: It's just I find with my spicy brain, whatever the spice is, I'm always needing to be anxious or complaining about something because if I'm not that I'm either not working hard enough and so I think it's beautiful that you can say, I'm feeling good and my complaints are pretty low stakes like may we all get to that point. 20:03.372 --> 20:04.593 [SPEAKER_00]: It's a great place today. 20:05.347 --> 20:23.641 [SPEAKER_01]: Like my complaint right now was that I'm just tired and a little bit burnt out, but there are so many good things going on, but even before this recording, I was like, God, I'm tired and I'm not going to be funny in this podcast is, you know, why was it worth the work? 20:23.681 --> 20:29.746 [SPEAKER_01]: And of course it is, but it's just, our brains can really find ways to complain and mine is just so good at it. 20:31.787 --> 20:35.509 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I do find things to complain about, but it is more just for love of complaining. 20:36.269 --> 20:42.412 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, my love of complaining is feeling seen by your love of complaining. 20:42.472 --> 20:44.173 [SPEAKER_01]: So let's get into some of that. 20:44.433 --> 20:51.857 [SPEAKER_01]: You talked about last time your ADHD and your rejection sensitivity, which since we spoke, I had a therapist talked to me about my rejection sensitivity. 20:51.897 --> 20:53.217 [SPEAKER_01]: So I've been very interested in it. 20:54.438 --> 20:58.840 [SPEAKER_01]: Have you had any recent rejections through you for a loop? 20:59.020 --> 21:00.441 [SPEAKER_00]: I got fired last year. 21:01.631 --> 21:11.594 [SPEAKER_00]: very shortly after this podcast came out and they were fairly vague about it and I don't know if someone saw the podcast and me making a joke about asking guys if they're tops. 21:12.414 --> 21:15.855 [SPEAKER_00]: So maybe it was a homophobic thing or maybe I just wasn't very good at my job. 21:17.735 --> 21:19.836 [SPEAKER_00]: But getting fired is a very big rejection. 21:20.816 --> 21:23.897 [SPEAKER_00]: But I was very depressed about it. 21:23.917 --> 21:24.637 [SPEAKER_00]: I was drinking 21:25.351 --> 21:41.584 [SPEAKER_00]: crazy for like three days and then on the fourth day I had a job interview at the company that I now work for and so I was only like broken and unemployed for a week maybe and then the new job I make more money. 21:42.425 --> 21:52.173 [SPEAKER_01]: What do you want to say to the angry people right now who are out of work who can't get a job, who feels so pissed that it only took you three days of drunk unemployment in order to find a new job. 21:52.193 --> 21:53.174 [SPEAKER_01]: What do you want to say to them? 21:54.192 --> 22:19.689 [SPEAKER_00]: uh... consider a career in construction scheduling and you know what maybe maybe good advice i don't it's really good advice it is very hard to hire people with this skill set because there's none of them and what skills i would you say it is like spreadsheet but the ratings for this podcast are going to take a dive but construction scheduling is like planning things out in time when they're going to get installed and then how many crews you have 22:22.786 --> 22:29.841 [SPEAKER_00]: And it's really, really, really, really, really, really, really boring, and no one wants to do it. 22:30.913 --> 22:35.095 [SPEAKER_01]: except for Colin Braun, American Abroad, a Braun. 22:36.216 --> 22:59.007 [SPEAKER_01]: Speaking of potential titles for your future specials, you've a show called In Stitches, what you're doing at the Barcelona Fringe Festival, as somebody who loves Barcelona, a little tease before we do Substack, when you go there, are you only there for your show or is your relationship rules going to allow you to explore the male 23:01.431 --> 23:03.131 [SPEAKER_00]: No, I'm just going to take my boyfriend with me. 23:04.392 --> 23:05.352 [SPEAKER_01]: Even better. 23:05.892 --> 23:13.674 [SPEAKER_01]: So your show talks about your mental health issues, your divorce, fleeing the country, how your grand motherly hobbies have helped you through. 23:14.634 --> 23:25.677 [SPEAKER_01]: Let me guess if the title is in stitches is one of your grand motherly hobbies being a stitcher, a yarn bottom. 23:26.897 --> 23:28.998 [SPEAKER_01]: This is why I know I'm burnt out as because I can't 23:32.076 --> 23:34.657 [SPEAKER_00]: It's okay, there are not actually a lot of good yarn punts. 23:34.697 --> 23:37.779 [SPEAKER_00]: So the fact that you even tried is itself admirable. 23:38.379 --> 23:43.681 [SPEAKER_00]: Yet knitting will be in there and the soothing and the calming and the yarn and everything. 23:44.982 --> 23:47.563 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, sewing, I don't let us sewing in my life, too. 23:48.444 --> 23:52.786 [SPEAKER_00]: So knitting and sewing and just like mending things, I made these shorts. 23:54.987 --> 23:56.107 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, wow. 23:56.387 --> 23:57.948 [SPEAKER_00]: I can't wait to see back up a little bit. 23:59.048 --> 24:00.009 [SPEAKER_00]: I can't because there's a corner. 24:02.103 --> 24:02.905 [SPEAKER_01]: I hate those. 24:02.966 --> 24:04.049 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, show the bot show the bot. 24:05.373 --> 24:05.734 [SPEAKER_01]: I hate you. 24:06.623 --> 24:07.284 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah. 24:07.304 --> 24:09.465 [SPEAKER_01]: Look at the stitching on the butt. 24:09.526 --> 24:10.786 [SPEAKER_01]: Look at the specific. 24:10.927 --> 24:11.687 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, wow. 24:12.488 --> 24:12.828 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 24:13.288 --> 24:15.710 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm actually very impressed. 24:16.091 --> 24:34.385 [SPEAKER_01]: You know what's funny about you is again, you like we said this last time you do sort of present bro and dude and you as you said earlier love to see how long it takes for people to find out that you're gay, but all you have to do is say I stitched these gay ass tight on my ass shorts and then it's proven. 24:35.348 --> 24:39.306 [SPEAKER_00]: I made them, I think, for full some weekend a few years ago, and they had one of those matching 24:40.065 --> 24:44.287 [SPEAKER_00]: I made a hat, you know, there's like kind of like military hats, words of a rectangle kind of thing. 24:44.607 --> 24:45.508 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 24:45.868 --> 24:47.589 [SPEAKER_00]: So that hat exists somewhere. 24:47.629 --> 24:50.971 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if it's in a box in San Francisco, or if I sold it at a yard sale. 24:51.031 --> 24:55.953 [SPEAKER_01]: But there is a matching hat incredible speaking of those types of hats. 24:56.093 --> 25:07.720 [SPEAKER_01]: If you were to be cast in a film where you're playing like an air force, someone or like a military dude, are you to anti, 25:08.600 --> 25:10.421 [SPEAKER_01]: violence in war or would you say yes? 25:11.621 --> 25:12.501 [SPEAKER_00]: Of course I'd say yes. 25:12.781 --> 25:24.244 [SPEAKER_00]: A lot of war movies end up being anti war because they're just really sad and gross and then also I mean I do want like some screen credits because construction isn't a place where dreams come true. 25:24.504 --> 25:25.144 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 25:25.164 --> 25:27.445 [SPEAKER_00]: So whatever I have to sell my soul to do 25:28.477 --> 25:32.140 [SPEAKER_00]: to wake up after 8 a.m. Yeah, really. 25:32.220 --> 25:35.082 [SPEAKER_01]: No, I can see you very much in a wartime drama. 25:35.122 --> 25:38.745 [SPEAKER_01]: There's obviously something about the haircut and the mustache and the muscles. 25:38.845 --> 25:41.787 [SPEAKER_00]: But you're also for a comedy if possible. 25:42.287 --> 25:44.269 [SPEAKER_01]: OK, sorry, wartime comedy. 25:44.969 --> 25:49.592 [SPEAKER_01]: It'll be a slapstick comedy about a really devastating war. 25:50.233 --> 25:52.074 [SPEAKER_01]: And the Normandy landings. 25:52.394 --> 25:52.895 [SPEAKER_00]: But funny. 25:54.136 --> 25:55.176 [SPEAKER_00]: The jokes have landed. 25:58.522 --> 26:04.025 [SPEAKER_01]: really well done, um, commonly so much more to discuss on the other side of this episode on Substack. 26:04.045 --> 26:15.350 [SPEAKER_01]: So I want to ask you the final podcast question on this main feed and that question is, if the world was ending, and you could only save one character, actre, who would you save? 26:17.569 --> 26:23.291 [SPEAKER_00]: So, I was going to say Kate Blanchett and then my boyfriend very rudely pointed out that she is not a character actress. 26:23.791 --> 26:29.332 [SPEAKER_01]: She is a leader that this podcast created a fight with you and your boyfriend thrilled. 26:30.613 --> 26:33.233 [SPEAKER_00]: It was, um, it was not a long fight. 26:33.253 --> 26:35.734 [SPEAKER_00]: We just looked it up and I said, well, I'm kind of right. 26:35.774 --> 26:36.674 [SPEAKER_00]: And he said, no, you're not. 26:36.754 --> 26:40.355 [SPEAKER_00]: And I said, I think I might be, um, so I won't say Kate Blanchett. 26:47.866 --> 26:56.034 [SPEAKER_00]: Much like Amy Sedaris and Susie Esman, Judy Greer is the best part of whatever she is in. 26:56.793 --> 27:06.300 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sort of like and so gagged that Susie Esman has also come up and I don't know if it's because I'm a US that you felt the need to include her, but I'm so grateful that you did. 27:06.420 --> 27:08.421 [SPEAKER_01]: She is such a good name drop. 27:09.162 --> 27:09.602 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, good. 27:09.882 --> 27:11.984 [SPEAKER_01]: Amy sederuses, of course, another good name drop. 27:12.024 --> 27:21.070 [SPEAKER_01]: When I got my tonsils out, I watched sex in the city like get me through and Amy sederus as Carrie's book editor agents was 27:25.293 --> 27:35.246 [SPEAKER_01]: A big secret that's not going to be surprising to you is that I have tried many times to get her on this podcast and it hasn't happened yet, but I would love for your help and manifesting that for me. 27:36.287 --> 27:41.434 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I can try to manifest that I think you have more pull than I do like I don't know her. 27:42.268 --> 27:44.930 [SPEAKER_00]: But I can I can send a message on Instagram. 27:45.210 --> 27:52.216 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, please do you want to be Greer and she might respond to a guy with bigger shoulders than I have. 27:52.737 --> 27:55.519 [SPEAKER_01]: I saw Judy Greer in a state farm commercial the other day. 27:55.859 --> 28:03.526 [SPEAKER_01]: When you see a character actress like Judy Greer in a commercial, does that make you feel happy that she's getting paid sad that that's what she's doing? 28:03.746 --> 28:04.526 [SPEAKER_01]: What comes up for you? 28:05.727 --> 28:07.209 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm glad that they are getting work. 28:07.269 --> 28:08.209 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, oh good for them. 28:08.249 --> 28:08.750 [SPEAKER_00]: Get your money. 28:09.050 --> 28:10.131 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 28:10.171 --> 28:10.511 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not a 28:12.149 --> 28:16.936 [SPEAKER_00]: How someone is getting their money just whatever you're doing go for it. 28:17.497 --> 28:19.801 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I would love to do a stay firm commercial. 28:20.382 --> 28:21.443 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god same I 28:24.756 --> 28:49.770 [SPEAKER_01]: just to give you the BTS like I this year was up for two delicious commercials and I was put on a veil meaning you're like in the final group of a few people that they're considering and you have to hold the shoot and both times I did not get it and I'm not complaining because I'm coming from abundance and I'm grateful for this life but just imagine waking up one day and 28:54.899 --> 28:55.479 [SPEAKER_00]: It's the dream. 28:56.419 --> 29:02.261 [SPEAKER_01]: It's the dream to do it to do be a state foreign commercial with duty, career, imagine. 29:02.281 --> 29:03.261 [SPEAKER_01]: I love duty. 29:03.441 --> 29:05.582 [SPEAKER_01]: I love when our character actresses work. 29:05.982 --> 29:12.943 [SPEAKER_01]: I also think that Cape Land Chat is an interesting question that your boyfriend has posed people in the comments. 29:12.983 --> 29:15.644 [SPEAKER_01]: Do you think Cape Land Chat is a character actress? 29:16.344 --> 29:24.951 [SPEAKER_01]: Let us know, because this podcast gets into so much trouble with the way that I delegate who is and who is not a character actress. 29:25.592 --> 29:28.874 [SPEAKER_00]: But how do you how do you define what makes a character actress? 29:28.894 --> 29:35.539 [SPEAKER_01]: Because now I personal definition that I tell people before this interview is it's a woman over 40 who was born one wig one time. 29:35.719 --> 29:37.441 [SPEAKER_01]: It's a very loose definition. 29:38.281 --> 29:40.363 [SPEAKER_00]: That is a pretty loose definition. 29:40.943 --> 29:50.248 [SPEAKER_01]: But like, I sort of can stand tall behind the fact that the, the nomenclature character actress is a compliment. 29:50.368 --> 30:00.113 [SPEAKER_01]: I think there are some people that take it as an insult, but I would so rather be a character actress than either leading lady or ongenue. 30:00.173 --> 30:02.754 [SPEAKER_01]: Like that's just like, I think it shows that you have range. 30:03.614 --> 30:16.465 [SPEAKER_01]: And also what I infer from the title of character actress is that you're great on screen but you're also somebody that a gay guy wants to have a sangria with off screen. 30:17.806 --> 30:18.627 [SPEAKER_00]: That is a good point. 30:19.107 --> 30:19.748 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if you can. 30:19.808 --> 30:21.189 [SPEAKER_00]: Landship would be. 30:21.209 --> 30:23.291 [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like she's. 30:24.812 --> 30:28.115 [SPEAKER_00]: She has that leading lady energy where I feel like I wouldn't be able to just like, 30:29.258 --> 30:37.000 [SPEAKER_00]: chill if I was around her and more as Judy Greer or Amy Sedaris or Susie Esman or any of these women. 30:37.481 --> 30:38.881 [SPEAKER_00]: I would just be like, how are you? 30:39.121 --> 30:39.761 [SPEAKER_01]: What's going on? 30:40.141 --> 30:41.402 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 30:42.182 --> 30:44.323 [SPEAKER_01]: Just a little giggle with your gaggle. 30:44.423 --> 30:48.324 [SPEAKER_01]: No, I think that's well said and key plan chat if you're listening. 30:49.844 --> 30:57.807 [SPEAKER_01]: Please let us know if you do enjoy gossiping with divorced gay men who have fled the country. 30:58.487 --> 30:59.948 [SPEAKER_01]: Colin Braun, we're going to go to Substuck. 30:59.988 --> 31:02.388 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to hear about your new relationship. 31:02.488 --> 31:11.631 [SPEAKER_01]: If you had any slut tails and grease before you met this boyfriend, I'm going to ask some more ADHD mental health stuff. 31:11.691 --> 31:14.172 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I'm going to ask about steam room culture in Europe. 31:14.192 --> 31:20.093 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to ask about so many different horny questions. 31:20.213 --> 31:22.294 [SPEAKER_01]: But before we do so, will you tell these listeners 31:26.753 --> 31:28.856 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I'm mainly active on Instagram. 31:28.876 --> 31:31.680 [SPEAKER_00]: I do have a tick talk, but I often forget that it exists. 31:32.581 --> 31:42.635 [SPEAKER_00]: So my Instagram is at Barona roll and I will be at the Barcelona French Festival in November, doing an hour called in stitches and it's all about hobbies and mental health. 31:43.230 --> 31:47.353 [SPEAKER_01]: hell, fuking, yeah, we have links, Collins, Instagram, in the description. 31:47.753 --> 31:56.278 [SPEAKER_01]: If you're in Bothalona, enjoy the top bus in the Payaeia and a stunning show called In Stitches by Rewa to know what we call and brawn. 31:57.019 --> 32:06.345 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's get into now the second half of this conversation where the paid sub-seq listeners who have just made my dreams come true, they're going to hear about some BTS stuff. 32:06.765 --> 32:07.446 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, I guess? 32:08.086 --> 32:12.849 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's get into it with, do you have any slot tails that came up before you met this boyfriend? 32:12.909 --> 32:17.151 [SPEAKER_01]: Whether it was in Greece or whether it was in your drunk binge after you got fired? 32:18.512 --> 32:22.614 [SPEAKER_00]: A few, yeah, because I lived in Dublin and I'm in Greece. 32:22.634 --> 32:36.021 [SPEAKER_00]: There wasn't much happening worth telling about, but in Dublin, I just had this beautiful apartment in the middle of the city and I was single and I would get lonely and sometimes these men would come over. 32:36.872 --> 32:51.175 [SPEAKER_00]: And then I think one time it was an American guy who was here with his boyfriend, but they didn't both come over sadly, but then I think he came over and then he realized that he follows me on Instagram or something. 32:52.502 --> 33:05.928 [SPEAKER_01]: For the rest of the interview, head to sub-stack linked below where you will also find chats with Colin Braun, Rich Burns, Christopher Patterson, Rosso, Tyler Varval, Sebastian Dino, Cody Silver, Johnny Sibly, Sam Altizer, and more. 33:06.368 --> 33:13.551 [SPEAKER_01]: It's at substack.com slash at Eric Wills, and I will see you there for a gorgeous Harry horny time. 33:13.571 --> 33:14.292 [SPEAKER_01]: I love you.