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about in this show. 05:25.574 --> 05:29.217 [SPEAKER_03]: But first, we're going to get into our fresh takes. 05:30.158 --> 05:33.180 [SPEAKER_03]: John, what did you think of episode six? 05:34.502 --> 05:35.122 [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, gosh. 05:37.327 --> 05:41.692 [SPEAKER_06]: Maybe it was easier to fly than to stay on the ground. 05:42.773 --> 05:44.034 [SPEAKER_06]: I hope I've mattered. 05:45.496 --> 05:48.700 [SPEAKER_06]: Dude, I mean, I mean, yeah. 05:51.847 --> 05:55.409 [SPEAKER_06]: This hit so many great beats for me. 05:58.291 --> 06:08.097 [SPEAKER_06]: The character stuff that they're doing on this show is really superb with both Hal and Junior. 06:08.657 --> 06:11.039 [SPEAKER_06]: Yes, it's just rich. 06:11.859 --> 06:17.083 [SPEAKER_06]: I, we actually could spend three and a half hours talking about. 06:18.535 --> 06:20.076 [SPEAKER_06]: these two people. 06:21.157 --> 06:28.281 [SPEAKER_06]: And their experiences and how they go through life and how life has shaped them, we could actually do that. 06:28.902 --> 06:38.828 [SPEAKER_06]: And that is a testament to the writing, that's a testament to the acting, and that's a testament to the, you know, the entire production, chosen. 06:39.729 --> 06:41.210 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, yeah. 06:43.002 --> 06:51.265 [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, when I heard his brother call, call him chosen at first, I was like, oh, that's some shit right there. 06:52.406 --> 06:53.906 [SPEAKER_06]: But they kept going back to it. 06:54.907 --> 06:57.908 [SPEAKER_06]: And he knows, and he's like, I told you don't call me that. 06:59.108 --> 07:04.050 [SPEAKER_06]: But it is so wild because mom is lying. 07:05.471 --> 07:10.453 [SPEAKER_06]: Dad is in a, in some sort of home, yeah, but he's shooting out the windows. 07:11.925 --> 07:14.646 [SPEAKER_06]: and his brothers have taken to calling him chosen. 07:16.387 --> 07:18.868 [SPEAKER_06]: And they're not doing it in a nice way. 07:20.608 --> 07:22.329 [SPEAKER_06]: This family needs help. 07:23.049 --> 07:30.652 [SPEAKER_06]: They've needed help for a long time and we're seeing all of that play out in this season. 07:31.953 --> 07:34.794 [SPEAKER_03]: Talk about the chickens coming home to Roost. 07:35.514 --> 07:36.034 [SPEAKER_03]: Chicken's heard. 07:36.074 --> 07:37.355 [SPEAKER_03]: It's just birds coming home to Roost. 07:37.895 --> 07:40.196 [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, it's, yeah, it's something. 07:41.183 --> 07:43.048 [SPEAKER_03]: then we have kai gardener house your guy 07:44.322 --> 07:46.763 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I was going to say, how's your guy, guy garden was he? 07:46.843 --> 07:48.304 [SPEAKER_06]: Is there a thing guy gardener? 07:48.724 --> 07:51.265 [SPEAKER_06]: He's gardener, he's there. 07:51.985 --> 08:02.709 [SPEAKER_03]: And he's being his, when he's he looked like an extra from a rom, from a Star Trek next generation, Romulans character with that bull cut man. 08:02.869 --> 08:06.691 [SPEAKER_03]: I was like, that was weird looking guy gardener does not care what you think. 08:07.011 --> 08:07.491 [SPEAKER_06]: That's why. 08:07.571 --> 08:08.272 [SPEAKER_06]: No, he doesn't. 08:08.392 --> 08:08.612 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 08:09.012 --> 08:10.012 [SPEAKER_06]: Doesn't care what you think. 08:10.132 --> 08:11.353 [SPEAKER_06]: It's all about what he thinks. 08:12.013 --> 08:12.213 [SPEAKER_06]: Right. 08:12.573 --> 08:12.813 [SPEAKER_06]: Right. 08:14.314 --> 08:25.004 [SPEAKER_06]: And then the last thing that really struck me is that Noah and his mom, Sheriff Kerry, they're both creepy and sus. 08:26.025 --> 08:26.686 [SPEAKER_06]: Creepy. 08:27.226 --> 08:27.566 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 08:28.627 --> 08:29.648 [SPEAKER_06]: Wow. 08:29.788 --> 08:30.149 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 08:31.150 --> 08:34.413 [SPEAKER_06]: Okay, then your sus feeder is off the child. 08:34.433 --> 08:35.494 [SPEAKER_06]: I don't trust either one of them. 08:35.954 --> 08:36.435 [SPEAKER_06]: Kerry. 08:37.333 --> 08:38.334 [SPEAKER_06]: Nope, okay. 08:38.354 --> 08:42.158 [SPEAKER_06]: We got to get into something about the way she's moving the way she speaks to. 08:43.299 --> 08:44.761 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I don't I don't trust her. 08:46.843 --> 08:57.475 [SPEAKER_03]: That's interesting because they were pressing the emotional sympathy buttons for me with her this episode. 08:57.855 --> 08:59.277 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, you know, they had this sort of 09:00.496 --> 09:02.099 [SPEAKER_03]: We were talking about it last week too. 09:02.139 --> 09:05.704 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, are these two, do they like each other? 09:05.744 --> 09:07.226 [SPEAKER_03]: Could we see them, you know, ship? 09:07.266 --> 09:09.890 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, well, here it is that it actually happened. 09:11.330 --> 09:16.413 [SPEAKER_03]: And, you know, she's all broken up about how and how was, you know, we're going to go into it at all. 09:16.853 --> 09:25.058 [SPEAKER_03]: But they were getting me with those, the emotional play, that they were setting up, maybe it's just, because I like Carrie McDonald's so much. 09:25.879 --> 09:31.562 [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, I can understand it, but her interactions with John, the way she's speaking with him. 09:32.422 --> 09:32.703 [SPEAKER_06]: Okay. 09:32.903 --> 09:35.384 [SPEAKER_06]: You know, and thinking about how, 09:41.289 --> 10:00.141 [SPEAKER_06]: she hedges, it's something, it's always, to me, it feels like, and it came through in this episode, it just felt like there's always something being held back by her, even when she's being forthright, okay. 10:00.701 --> 10:07.266 [SPEAKER_06]: There's like a hint of, for me, there's a hint of, there's more there that she's 10:11.487 --> 10:30.804 [SPEAKER_06]: And I just didn't like how in the dinner scene, just how overall friendly she was with John, the entire episode, just because of how's death, it just felt a little strange to me. 10:32.135 --> 10:42.333 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, well, we're going to, when we get into the actual scene by scene, I want you to point out some specifics because I, I was not detecting that at all, yeah, yeah, which is 10:45.050 --> 10:53.594 [SPEAKER_03]: Like I'm now anxious for a reveal to know, you know, like, oh my god, Jean was right all this time. 10:53.614 --> 10:56.136 [SPEAKER_06]: Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. 10:56.996 --> 10:59.977 [SPEAKER_06]: These are simply the musings of Jean. 11:00.438 --> 11:03.439 [SPEAKER_06]: You're not speculating on predictions or speculations. 11:03.799 --> 11:05.440 [SPEAKER_06]: These are just my musings. 11:06.140 --> 11:06.941 [SPEAKER_06]: Thank you so much. 11:06.961 --> 11:08.321 [SPEAKER_03]: You just hear asking questions. 11:08.802 --> 11:09.302 [SPEAKER_03]: That's it. 11:09.762 --> 11:10.883 [SPEAKER_03]: Just asking questions. 11:11.283 --> 11:11.703 [SPEAKER_03]: Fair enough. 11:11.743 --> 11:12.004 [SPEAKER_03]: All right. 11:12.024 --> 11:14.865 [SPEAKER_03]: So we'll see, we know Internet points have been wagered. 11:16.106 --> 11:18.308 [SPEAKER_03]: Nobody get there. 11:18.888 --> 11:24.732 [SPEAKER_03]: The rings in a bunch if Jean turns out to be right or wrong in either case. 11:25.352 --> 11:25.893 [SPEAKER_03]: All right. 11:25.973 --> 11:30.676 [SPEAKER_03]: So super-sauce, Carrie, and Noah, as a duo here. 11:30.696 --> 11:37.620 [SPEAKER_03]: I, one of the things I really loved and have been loving about the show is sort of the realism and the 11:39.975 --> 11:55.385 [SPEAKER_03]: and especially the way that John is talking to his brothers and the way that he was talking to how, what's up Stuart, Supman, you know, like it's just very, there's just a kind of a realism in the dialogue. 11:55.405 --> 12:02.329 [SPEAKER_03]: I heard somebody else somewhere else complaining about how they're, you know, the swearing, the swearing sounds off to them in this show. 12:02.769 --> 12:05.071 [SPEAKER_03]: I was like, no, it's like it's dead on. 12:05.211 --> 12:06.612 [SPEAKER_03]: It's used in the right ways. 12:06.692 --> 12:07.973 [SPEAKER_03]: It's used in the right places. 12:08.773 --> 12:22.937 [SPEAKER_03]: So I just really like the ground in this of it because when we get into the all the ring stuff and oh and guardians and you know starfish it's nice to know that at the end of the day we're still just kind of still here on earth. 12:23.557 --> 12:25.838 [SPEAKER_03]: We're still dealing with you know human beings. 12:26.318 --> 12:26.518 [SPEAKER_03]: Right. 12:26.758 --> 12:26.958 [SPEAKER_03]: Right. 12:27.918 --> 12:32.719 [SPEAKER_03]: And I found it interesting the same as you were saying their family man the 12:39.995 --> 13:06.313 [SPEAKER_03]: actually seems to have more feelings for a dead how than he does for his living father, John Sr., he's going out of his way to solve howls, murder, he's, you know, run in game, he's doing investigations, he's putting himself in danger in a lot of ways, he's really, he's jeopardizing this big deal that him and his brother Marcus have set up. 13:07.745 --> 13:11.886 [SPEAKER_03]: So he's putting, he's investing a lot into figuring out what happened with Hal. 13:12.927 --> 13:21.349 [SPEAKER_03]: Meanwhile, his father, his flesh and blood, is having a serious problems adapting to his new living situation. 13:21.389 --> 13:27.011 [SPEAKER_03]: His mother, right, is now who knows what the state of their marriage is. 13:28.612 --> 13:30.912 [SPEAKER_03]: But he's like, that consequence is because of Gwen's, 13:33.727 --> 13:38.791 [SPEAKER_03]: Right, he's going to send Aaron out for him, but still like that's that's an interesting weight, right? 13:38.851 --> 13:42.694 [SPEAKER_03]: Where am I going to put the weight of my energy, the bulk of my energy? 13:42.814 --> 13:53.162 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to put it into this dead guy who never told me that he really, you know, he never verbalized what did Carol say? 13:53.202 --> 13:55.184 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, he he probably never said it. 13:55.224 --> 13:56.104 [SPEAKER_03]: He probably liked you. 13:56.124 --> 13:56.385 [SPEAKER_03]: Right, 13:59.895 --> 14:05.619 [SPEAKER_03]: And so the, again, what you're saying is with the character works that they're doing and this show is is pretty incredible. 14:06.900 --> 14:12.603 [SPEAKER_03]: And it's kind of, I don't know, it's kind of a lot of fun because they're putting these characters into these really weird positions. 14:14.024 --> 14:19.428 [SPEAKER_03]: I really want to talk about the diners scene with Hal and just a minute too and like the setup that was going on with there. 14:19.988 --> 14:24.131 [SPEAKER_03]: I do have a little bit of a theory. 14:25.370 --> 14:34.895 [SPEAKER_03]: And I've got a sound clip when we get to that scene and I'll have a better sound clip when we get our feedback on Thursday, but I'm pretty sure. 14:36.839 --> 14:42.264 [SPEAKER_03]: that a certain someone is involved in a certain something and we'll talk about it on the other side of the break. 14:42.705 --> 14:43.886 [SPEAKER_03]: But I have audio evidence. 14:43.926 --> 14:45.107 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm bringing some receipts. 14:46.068 --> 14:47.310 [SPEAKER_03]: Wow. 14:47.350 --> 14:49.071 [SPEAKER_03]: I've got working theory. 14:49.091 --> 14:49.952 [SPEAKER_03]: OK. 14:50.293 --> 14:54.657 [SPEAKER_03]: But I need the rest of everyone to help me see if they hear it too. 14:54.837 --> 14:59.121 [SPEAKER_03]: If I'm right, and we can get ready to detectives here. 14:59.722 --> 15:00.403 [SPEAKER_03]: No, this is good. 15:01.767 --> 15:06.531 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, since we don't, we're not doing the feedback this time, let's just go ahead and take a look. 15:06.671 --> 15:13.236 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, before we take our break, however, and I will put this in the show notes, like not in the link tree, but just straight up in the show notes. 15:13.316 --> 15:14.838 [SPEAKER_03]: It's also on the discord. 15:15.618 --> 15:24.285 [SPEAKER_03]: We have one of the channels on the discord is resources, like links to other pages and to like the show tracker and things like that. 15:24.806 --> 15:27.288 [SPEAKER_03]: I corner, we took corners, 15:28.522 --> 15:31.926 [SPEAKER_03]: reading list for brain lantern like reading order. 15:33.227 --> 15:40.536 [SPEAKER_03]: And we turn that into a Google, a nice clean Google document, and put that on to the public share side of our Google site. 15:41.076 --> 15:44.760 [SPEAKER_03]: And so you can go and see what Connor has put together for us. 15:47.092 --> 16:02.667 [SPEAKER_06]: It's really amazing, it's really amazing, Connor, that shit is amazing, like you, you know, kudos and bravo, because to take the time out to do that, just... 16:03.508 --> 16:18.742 [SPEAKER_06]: You know, it really says something about the type of community that we have, 100% that for you to do that, that really, really goes above and beyond anything that we could ever expect from folks who listen to us. 16:19.363 --> 16:27.150 [SPEAKER_06]: So, thank you a thousand times over because really, and truly, some of the list is really good, actually. 16:27.950 --> 16:29.432 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it was only going to be fun. 16:29.472 --> 16:30.914 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, no, no, no, the list was pretty good. 16:31.034 --> 16:34.878 [SPEAKER_06]: So you've read a lot more doing Lenton than I have. 16:34.918 --> 16:35.819 [SPEAKER_06]: That's for certain. 16:36.460 --> 16:39.984 [SPEAKER_06]: But yeah, the some stories are, yeah, this is great. 16:40.835 --> 17:01.422 [SPEAKER_03]: here's a little pro tip to when you go to look at the document and you're like oh my god said pages long I made it one of those infinite scroll documents to it doesn't have the fake or the page breaks because like why do you need page breaks for a digital document anyway there's an index so it tells you sort of an order you can sort of know what's on the thing we use the 17:03.290 --> 17:03.770 [SPEAKER_03]: headings. 17:04.350 --> 17:11.192 [SPEAKER_03]: So if you have the document tab heading thing open on the side of the Google doc, you can see all of those and jump right to them. 17:11.632 --> 17:24.274 [SPEAKER_03]: And then the very last thing at the bottom of the document is this compiled required leading order for the Blackest Knight Substory feature, right? 17:24.294 --> 17:27.075 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know what the what the Blackest Knight what that actually means. 17:31.299 --> 17:51.820 [SPEAKER_03]: of the stories that are the sort of core boil down required reading like if you want to get into this one sub story called the black is night it's there and it's just sort of you know gives you a shorter list as opposed to reading all of the other stuff that he's lifted there before. 17:52.292 --> 18:00.036 [SPEAKER_03]: And then if you have any questions about it, you know, obviously help under the Discord or give us an email, and then we can, you know, forward that to, uh, to Connor. 18:00.876 --> 18:03.198 [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, but yeah, thank you again, Connor for doing this. 18:03.298 --> 18:03.758 [SPEAKER_03]: It's very cool. 18:03.778 --> 18:06.399 [SPEAKER_03]: And I'll make sure to put a link directly. 18:06.419 --> 18:07.640 [SPEAKER_03]: You won't have to go to the link training thing. 18:07.660 --> 18:08.921 [SPEAKER_03]: It'll just be right there in the show notes. 18:09.381 --> 18:10.481 [SPEAKER_03]: Just pop over and check it out. 18:10.501 --> 18:11.322 [SPEAKER_03]: It's a Google Doc. 18:11.342 --> 18:16.585 [SPEAKER_03]: You can download it as a PDF for yourself or make a copy of it over and do your own Google thing. 18:17.205 --> 18:17.845 [SPEAKER_03]: It should be open. 18:17.865 --> 18:20.006 [SPEAKER_03]: And if it's not, then just give me an email and I'll make sure that you 18:21.547 --> 18:22.528 [SPEAKER_03]: one way or another. 18:23.008 --> 18:27.550 [SPEAKER_03]: All right, let's take our first break and then when we come back, we will get into the scene by scene. 18:28.530 --> 18:34.033 [UNKNOWN]: All right, we're back in 2006. 18:34.073 --> 18:34.973 [UNKNOWN]: John, is it 2016? 18:35.093 --> 18:35.933 [UNKNOWN]: I'm sorry. 18:36.114 --> 18:37.694 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm mistyped there, right? 18:37.714 --> 18:38.094 [SPEAKER_03]: It's 2016, right? 18:49.437 --> 18:52.860 [SPEAKER_06]: I think it's, no, I think this is 2026. 18:52.920 --> 18:56.624 [SPEAKER_03]: 20, I think you're right, man, I'm 20, this is 2026. 18:56.664 --> 18:58.485 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, okay, it's right there. 18:58.505 --> 18:59.566 [SPEAKER_03]: I just scrubbed the scene. 18:59.586 --> 19:00.447 [SPEAKER_03]: All right, my bad. 19:00.927 --> 19:06.492 [SPEAKER_03]: In 2026, John pitches his idea to build a series of 40 arcs. 19:07.293 --> 19:12.196 [SPEAKER_03]: ginormous panic rooms that can house 20,000 people at a time. 19:12.737 --> 19:19.981 [SPEAKER_03]: After a successful presentation, he receives a call from his mother who tells him that how Jordan wants to apologize. 19:20.742 --> 19:25.745 [SPEAKER_03]: John drives to Rushville and meets how at the diner. 19:26.706 --> 19:33.250 [SPEAKER_03]: They argue and John strikes him and then leaves. 19:35.134 --> 19:38.528 [SPEAKER_03]: This is a pretty interesting and complex scene. 19:39.934 --> 19:48.418 [SPEAKER_03]: There are some lore things that I want to talk to you on really quick because there's some there seem to be I don't know if you want to call these Easter eggs or links out to the the wider DC universe. 19:49.259 --> 19:52.320 [SPEAKER_03]: But the first thing I saw I thought was midway city. 19:54.241 --> 19:58.403 [SPEAKER_03]: Is that like an analog for Chicago or Detroit or something like that? 19:58.464 --> 20:00.985 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean the name is midway, right? 20:01.005 --> 20:01.845 [SPEAKER_03]: No, it's for Chicago. 20:02.025 --> 20:02.606 [SPEAKER_03]: Midway. 20:03.266 --> 20:03.886 [SPEAKER_03]: It's Chicago. 20:03.906 --> 20:04.347 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. 20:04.367 --> 20:04.587 [SPEAKER_03]: Cool. 20:04.907 --> 20:05.107 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 20:06.124 --> 20:06.424 [SPEAKER_03]: got it. 20:06.765 --> 20:11.933 [SPEAKER_03]: And so that would make sense that if he's driving to Rushville, I did do a Google map check. 20:11.973 --> 20:17.401 [SPEAKER_03]: It's like three to four hours if it's Detroit or Chicago, but it's driveable in the time. 20:17.421 --> 20:17.641 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. 20:19.069 --> 20:28.712 [SPEAKER_03]: of the show and I know some people were like, oh, is this some John Snow jetpacking and you know, no, no, no, no, no, no, they were, they're actually playing it straight. 20:30.012 --> 20:36.635 [SPEAKER_03]: We hear about a giant starfish, which I believe refers to Staro, the conqueror. 20:36.675 --> 20:37.455 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, yes, yes, yes. 20:38.095 --> 20:41.136 [SPEAKER_03]: Can you that was in is that the suicide squad? 20:41.616 --> 20:45.918 [SPEAKER_06]: Yes, yes, that was the last suicide squad. 20:46.318 --> 20:47.978 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, it was a 2016 or something. 20:48.558 --> 20:50.199 [SPEAKER_06]: Oh gosh, I'll look it up. 20:50.239 --> 20:50.839 [SPEAKER_06]: You talk about it. 20:50.859 --> 20:51.579 [SPEAKER_06]: It might have been a arrow. 20:52.020 --> 20:55.521 [SPEAKER_06]: Your it's a star row is is all over DC Comics. 20:57.065 --> 21:05.475 [SPEAKER_06]: Sometimes most of the time a villain is like a giant starfish that wants to take over the universe, take over the galaxy. 21:05.735 --> 21:07.016 [SPEAKER_06]: Okay. 21:07.557 --> 21:13.864 [SPEAKER_06]: So the inclusion of that character from the movie, 21:14.685 --> 21:24.370 [SPEAKER_06]: is definitely tying in this DC, you, that James Gunn, is building to what came before certain aspects of it. 21:25.110 --> 21:40.018 [SPEAKER_06]: So they want us to see, I think, the links between those guardians, I'm guardians, so gosh, those suicide squad movies and that universe and understand that we are inhabiting the 21:43.040 --> 21:53.915 [SPEAKER_06]: You know, the Robert Patterson, Batman universe or not, definitely not came, why came before the Justice League universe, they decided it. 21:56.079 --> 21:57.020 [SPEAKER_03]: So that was the 2021 movie. 21:59.155 --> 22:02.216 [SPEAKER_03]: okay for a suicide squad. 22:02.937 --> 22:10.600 [SPEAKER_03]: And then they mention a kernel drake hot, is that a name we should, I mean, it's a track, but does that have historical? 22:10.820 --> 22:13.401 [SPEAKER_06]: No, not a DC character, this is original to pursue, I believe. 22:13.901 --> 22:15.182 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, right off, great. 22:16.242 --> 22:30.759 [SPEAKER_03]: So what I, I thought was really interesting about John's pitch is that it was, it's an exposition dump disguised as a business pitch because, you know, we, obviously, we learned about how being locked up. 22:30.799 --> 22:31.740 [SPEAKER_03]: We learned about Starrow. 22:31.760 --> 22:35.023 [SPEAKER_03]: We learned about, you know, John wanting to be an architect. 22:35.944 --> 22:55.145 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, both the pitch and the phone call with Bernadette are these really big exposition things because basically we ended part one of the season last episode and so we're in a big reset here and so we've got to reset the playing board the pieces on the playing board and 22:58.148 --> 23:00.510 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, so we learned about, you know, house dad. 23:00.570 --> 23:02.851 [SPEAKER_03]: So obviously there's some separation there. 23:03.352 --> 23:05.493 [SPEAKER_03]: We learned about Burned Ed and how talking. 23:05.533 --> 23:07.374 [SPEAKER_03]: We learned how was locked up. 23:07.414 --> 23:11.577 [SPEAKER_03]: We learned that John is this architect now that he's build this business with his brother Marcus. 23:12.378 --> 23:24.406 [SPEAKER_03]: So it's a really interesting construct, the way that they were able to get a whole bunch of circumstance and set up in this sort of very efficient 23:30.618 --> 23:37.402 [SPEAKER_03]: And these are elected these arcs have any relevance to the D.C. story world or okay. 23:39.163 --> 23:48.328 [SPEAKER_06]: But what he's building it for does because he mentions metropolis, which is from the Superman movie of last year. 23:49.153 --> 23:53.634 [SPEAKER_06]: and the destruction that happened in that film, and also what happened in Rushwell. 23:54.274 --> 24:00.856 [SPEAKER_06]: And so they're building upon what happened before, what we've seen into DCU, and also what's happening. 24:01.436 --> 24:06.057 [SPEAKER_06]: Now, just to show where John currently is, without the ring. 24:07.118 --> 24:07.338 [SPEAKER_06]: Right. 24:07.458 --> 24:08.598 [SPEAKER_06]: He's still trying to save people. 24:09.278 --> 24:10.259 [SPEAKER_06]: Right, man, good point. 24:10.479 --> 24:11.499 [SPEAKER_06]: That's actually a really good point. 24:12.255 --> 24:20.245 [SPEAKER_03]: I was thinking though, trying to move 20,000 people, which is about 800,000, if you can build four of them, trying to get them down in the arc's 20,000 people. 24:20.265 --> 24:22.127 [SPEAKER_03]: That's a lot of people with the feet of them. 24:22.147 --> 24:22.548 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah. 24:23.669 --> 24:25.171 [SPEAKER_03]: You got to be living down there already. 24:25.251 --> 24:28.074 [SPEAKER_03]: You can't run there in an emergency situation. 24:28.715 --> 24:29.276 [SPEAKER_03]: take it. 24:29.636 --> 24:31.898 [SPEAKER_06]: I'm going to give you a realistic. 24:31.918 --> 24:33.999 [SPEAKER_06]: This is too sciencey for me. 24:34.159 --> 24:37.342 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to write some nine months of sniper missions. 24:38.002 --> 24:42.406 [SPEAKER_06]: Yes, we could move 20,000 in a blink of an eye. 24:42.426 --> 24:43.587 [SPEAKER_06]: Teleportation. 24:45.648 --> 24:47.109 [SPEAKER_03]: We can teleport 20,000. 24:47.229 --> 24:48.210 [SPEAKER_03]: That's what we're talking about. 24:48.731 --> 24:54.375 [SPEAKER_03]: Did you find it interesting that John took Bernadette's word about 24:55.989 --> 25:07.663 [SPEAKER_03]: assuming that how wants to apologize because he drove, he got off the phone and he drove the three four hours that it takes to get there without question. 25:09.256 --> 25:35.262 [SPEAKER_06]: Okay, I found it interesting that he said hello Bernadette and I'm right, right, so that's number one is the is the hello Bernadette that got me like, oh, distance because in, and you know black households, you're not calling your mind, you're not calling somebody that comes visit your mom by the first week, you're not calling somebody that comes visit your mom by the first week and so that's not happening. 25:35.623 --> 25:37.283 [SPEAKER_06]: So this the level of. 25:38.517 --> 25:41.299 [SPEAKER_06]: what you say is distance, right? 25:41.959 --> 25:53.985 [SPEAKER_06]: It's just shown here by the casualness that he's using that name and she is answering to it because it this, what it is. 25:54.806 --> 25:56.587 [SPEAKER_06]: She's used to him a little bit. 25:56.847 --> 26:00.329 [SPEAKER_06]: It is what it is, you know, there's no pushback. 26:01.069 --> 26:03.230 [SPEAKER_06]: It's 10 years probably of Bernadette. 26:05.209 --> 26:08.370 [SPEAKER_06]: I'm not calling him on anyone who's burning that, that's where we're at. 26:09.191 --> 26:14.873 [SPEAKER_06]: Super efficient storytelling, because right away we know that there's this distance between them. 26:14.913 --> 26:17.934 [SPEAKER_03]: And then the hell dad, like, okay, well, what's happening right now? 26:17.954 --> 26:18.834 [SPEAKER_06]: Exactly, exactly. 26:18.854 --> 26:21.956 [SPEAKER_06]: And he says, like, you don't know John, not John, not John. 26:23.977 --> 26:25.377 [SPEAKER_06]: Not your husband, not John. 26:25.437 --> 26:26.998 [SPEAKER_06]: He specifically says, how's dad? 26:27.418 --> 26:28.758 [SPEAKER_06]: And we first burned a dead. 26:28.918 --> 26:30.119 [SPEAKER_06]: His mother has burned a dead. 26:31.700 --> 26:37.882 [SPEAKER_06]: So there's some blame being assigned to different parties here by John. 26:38.922 --> 26:46.404 [SPEAKER_03]: And I heard another part of a conversation to about, and I can't remember it now. 26:46.444 --> 26:52.785 [SPEAKER_03]: It's basically like why John chose her to shoot the apple off of her head, because there's some anger in there as well. 26:54.566 --> 26:54.826 [SPEAKER_03]: Right? 26:54.866 --> 26:55.386 [SPEAKER_03]: There's a lot of, 26:59.855 --> 27:02.337 [SPEAKER_03]: his education training, whatever. 27:02.357 --> 27:04.859 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it was really hard. 27:07.060 --> 27:13.225 [SPEAKER_06]: There were enemies together, but I said, you know, your point being, yes, they were in it together, his parents. 27:13.725 --> 27:17.408 [SPEAKER_06]: But who was the driving force, as you said, it was burning that. 27:18.269 --> 27:23.973 [SPEAKER_06]: And I think he recognizes that his mom was the one who was really, you know, 27:25.390 --> 27:46.262 [SPEAKER_06]: going all in on distraining and unrelenting about it and perhaps that he just saw his father as someone who was just going along because he remembers his father, you know, I'm sure his brothers have told them about the trauma that his father had. 27:48.708 --> 27:54.151 [SPEAKER_03]: What they, but he's not willing to, he's not willing to sort of take care. 27:54.171 --> 28:00.075 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I mean, he just sinned Aaron eventually, but, you know, if there's gonna be consequences, he lets his father suffer consequences. 28:00.095 --> 28:00.655 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, there's levels there. 28:00.675 --> 28:01.476 [SPEAKER_03]: There are consequences. 28:01.536 --> 28:03.337 [SPEAKER_06]: There's levels, there's levels. 28:03.897 --> 28:04.557 [SPEAKER_06]: Right. 28:04.597 --> 28:07.139 [SPEAKER_03]: He's not just like whatever, he did call Aaron. 28:07.179 --> 28:08.740 [SPEAKER_03]: He did say, you gotta go deal with this. 28:09.140 --> 28:10.461 [SPEAKER_03]: He could have just said, whatever. 28:10.481 --> 28:13.363 [SPEAKER_03]: Tell him jail, send him to psych, I don't care. 28:13.563 --> 28:13.823 [SPEAKER_06]: Right. 28:15.056 --> 28:22.137 [SPEAKER_06]: And I think, um, was I surprised that he, listen, no, because it wasn't about her. 28:23.158 --> 28:28.079 [SPEAKER_03]: It was about him and how, but that's saying, okay, that's that too. 28:28.119 --> 28:34.420 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm, I guess I'm saying both of those things because he took her word that he, that she's representing. 28:34.660 --> 28:38.301 [SPEAKER_03]: First of all, like, wait, you're talking to how that's in my back. 28:38.961 --> 28:39.461 [SPEAKER_03]: That's weird. 28:40.440 --> 28:49.065 [SPEAKER_03]: but then that he took that for truth, that some kind of truth, that how once they have some kind of interaction with him. 28:49.525 --> 28:52.006 [SPEAKER_03]: So Bernadette is not a... 28:56.176 --> 29:03.922 [SPEAKER_03]: she's like can could he could he actually believe what she said I guess she's never actually ever lied she's never actually lied to him. 29:04.663 --> 29:18.213 [SPEAKER_03]: So I guess maybe there's on a on that level there's not a breaking of the trust there's more of a breaking of the trust like you're my mom you're supposed to be the one person in the world who unconditionally loves me and make sure that I'm safe but you were shoot apples off my head and drop on me off in bad parts of the neighborhoods. 29:19.482 --> 29:22.464 [SPEAKER_03]: So I guess there's not a violation of trust of truthfulness. 29:22.524 --> 29:26.006 [SPEAKER_03]: It's more a violation of trust of you have a duty to care for me. 29:26.826 --> 29:32.370 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, and I also think that he needs, junior needs. 29:34.171 --> 29:38.273 [SPEAKER_06]: When he hears that how wants to apologize, wants to say sorry. 29:38.753 --> 29:43.316 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I think that's something that he needs to hear from how in order to move on. 29:45.567 --> 30:02.596 [SPEAKER_06]: But what if he can't see that's the point is it's like why does he does because he does care he does care and I think that's the whole point of the last five episodes He does actually care about this entire thing right he wanted to be the green the green lantern 30:03.716 --> 30:11.061 [SPEAKER_06]: Um, he built his entire life around becoming a green lantern and, you know, it didn't happen. 30:11.622 --> 30:18.587 [SPEAKER_06]: And I think he, you know, blames how Jordan for it and I'm happening just like, you know, his parents blame how Jordan. 30:19.287 --> 30:26.473 [SPEAKER_06]: So for him, I think he needs that in order to move on, it's like a closure of a chapter in his book. 30:27.373 --> 30:29.215 [SPEAKER_06]: Is it that closure, though? 30:30.829 --> 30:32.390 [SPEAKER_06]: I actually have an odd part of it. 30:32.690 --> 30:33.571 [SPEAKER_06]: No, that part of it. 30:33.731 --> 30:33.951 [SPEAKER_06]: Sure. 30:33.991 --> 30:38.473 [SPEAKER_06]: There's more to say that the relationship is ended, right? 30:38.513 --> 30:39.014 [SPEAKER_06]: That part. 30:39.054 --> 30:48.919 [SPEAKER_06]: We can't get to another side until he hears those words, some contrition for what he feels that how put him through, what he feels. 30:48.939 --> 30:50.941 [SPEAKER_03]: But why does he care what how things about that. 30:50.961 --> 30:52.241 [SPEAKER_03]: That's the question I'm asking him like, 30:57.717 --> 31:18.828 [SPEAKER_03]: even though how treats him like shit and you know they go to jail and all this stuff he actually cares what how has to say because if he didn't care he just moved on with his lot you know no I don't think I don't I don't think he cares what how thinks of him I think he wants an admission from how that he fucked them over but why what good is that do him or anybody 31:21.215 --> 31:38.148 [SPEAKER_06]: I think that recognition that somebody did me harm in my eyes and doesn't mean that I forgive you, doesn't mean that all of a sudden we're best pals, but it's like, okay, you're acknowledging the harm that you caused me. 31:38.849 --> 31:44.913 [SPEAKER_06]: I think that's in any sort of situation when you perceive someone as causing you harm, 31:45.900 --> 31:55.846 [SPEAKER_06]: whether directly or indirectly, it goes a long way for your own personal journey to hear that person express the contrition for what they may have caused you to go through. 31:56.487 --> 32:01.630 [SPEAKER_03]: So it's not a complete, unfeeling person which you realize. 32:02.570 --> 32:22.922 [SPEAKER_03]: Right, I mean, like say somebody, a true narcissist, right, not just in the self-setter, but like somebody who, and I don't want to misuse the terms because I know shows you a past psychopath, these, these are the definite things and I don't have the definition straight in my head, but there are people who just don't have empathy and the ability to 32:24.516 --> 32:30.819 [SPEAKER_03]: Em, you know, to understand what another person is feeling, if that person's like that, then it doesn't matter what they say. 32:30.839 --> 32:34.461 [SPEAKER_03]: They're going to say whatever they're going to say, because they're never actually going to feel that. 32:34.561 --> 32:35.622 [SPEAKER_03]: They're never actually going to feel that. 32:35.662 --> 32:36.222 [SPEAKER_06]: I totally agree. 32:36.723 --> 32:36.943 [SPEAKER_06]: Right. 32:36.983 --> 32:38.864 [SPEAKER_06]: But it doesn't mean that you don't want to hear it. 32:39.844 --> 32:40.645 [SPEAKER_06]: Interesting. 32:40.885 --> 32:45.187 [SPEAKER_06]: From the person that caused you harm, right, that you feel caused you harm. 32:46.188 --> 32:50.370 [SPEAKER_06]: It doesn't mean that you don't want to hear them be contrite for the role that they've 32:54.537 --> 32:54.757 [SPEAKER_06]: Right. 32:55.498 --> 32:59.321 [SPEAKER_03]: There's an interesting audio clip that I was going to save for the very last scene. 33:00.262 --> 33:15.415 [SPEAKER_03]: But I think it's really, it's actually as we're breaking this down that it creates a really interesting book end with this opening phone call from Bernadette to have this final snippet from the phone call with Marcus. 33:16.276 --> 33:18.518 [SPEAKER_03]: So let me do this. 33:18.538 --> 33:21.581 [SPEAKER_09]: I, I, I, what about we? 33:22.281 --> 33:25.303 [SPEAKER_09]: Or is that what you're just saying to pitch to make good for everything you got and I did? 33:26.124 --> 33:28.626 [SPEAKER_08]: Hey, man, listen, please, I want to go home. 33:29.767 --> 33:30.548 [SPEAKER_08]: You never came home. 33:31.208 --> 33:35.331 [SPEAKER_08]: You've been stuck in a rushfield for 10 years and you ain't leaving until you finish whatever the hell it is. 33:35.391 --> 33:37.633 [SPEAKER_08]: You and how motherfucking Jordan started out there. 33:38.634 --> 33:39.855 [SPEAKER_08]: I just pray I don't kill you. 33:40.615 --> 33:41.296 [SPEAKER_08]: Like it killed him. 33:44.078 --> 33:45.639 [SPEAKER_03]: Marcus calls it out straight. 33:45.739 --> 33:47.641 [SPEAKER_03]: You never came home. 33:47.701 --> 33:49.662 [SPEAKER_03]: You never left Rushville. 33:50.303 --> 33:50.463 [SPEAKER_06]: Right. 33:51.658 --> 34:10.414 [SPEAKER_06]: And I think if, in another universe, if Hal doesn't die, but they leave on those terms, I think John can close the book, this chapter, because he's not going to ever get the act of 34:21.061 --> 34:24.643 [SPEAKER_06]: Now it's a whole other thing that Rushville has on him. 34:25.584 --> 34:47.959 [SPEAKER_03]: So what's interesting then too is that how plays the fool does his usual thing which John treats him rough dirty right and it is kind of just a big jerk to him but then after 34:53.036 --> 34:55.618 [SPEAKER_03]: He's, how was like really scared? 34:56.578 --> 35:03.423 [SPEAKER_03]: There was a kind of a feel like this, like a don't tell anyone you were here, don't say anything to anybody, keep it this secret. 35:04.504 --> 35:14.811 [SPEAKER_03]: How was like a free, like there was a grovelingness to him, you know, a kind of a, you know, please don't, you know, and the whole thing, 35:17.140 --> 35:21.663 [SPEAKER_03]: you know, uh, the whole conversation from beginning to end to the moment John walks out. 35:22.243 --> 35:43.157 [SPEAKER_03]: It's almost like one long con that how is running on him in a way, to do what, to set John up because I think how knows that he's marked, that he's not good at like he 35:45.868 --> 35:58.837 [SPEAKER_03]: So he wanted to get John there because he knows that the only person who can solve and bring closure to the whole actual situation, whatever's actually going on here. 36:00.742 --> 36:02.183 [SPEAKER_03]: is John Stewart. 36:02.203 --> 36:12.469 [SPEAKER_03]: He trusts and knows John so well that that's the guy and he's going to be he needs to be the Green Lantern and he needs to figure out what's going on really here. 36:13.410 --> 36:18.333 [SPEAKER_06]: So, do you think that the punch in the nose, reset, reset how? 36:19.414 --> 36:22.376 [SPEAKER_06]: Like tapping the ring, reset the charts? 36:30.570 --> 36:33.132 [SPEAKER_03]: And that's what he got really kind of freaked out. 36:33.252 --> 36:37.074 [SPEAKER_03]: And I think, and he, how says, I can't believe I'm dead, right? 36:37.254 --> 36:40.176 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, you know, even the hologram is like, oh, shit. 36:40.196 --> 36:45.239 [SPEAKER_03]: Got it, you know, he says in his, his eulogy, like, I can't, I can't actually believe I'm dead. 36:45.999 --> 36:50.742 [SPEAKER_03]: Um, so that's an interesting point. 36:51.863 --> 36:54.744 [SPEAKER_03]: because after it was a slap or a punch, I can't believe it. 36:54.764 --> 36:55.284 [SPEAKER_03]: He punched them. 36:55.584 --> 37:01.185 [SPEAKER_03]: He punched him, okay, I was wondering if it was an open-hand slap, but that wouldn't cause the cotton necessarily in the same way. 37:01.405 --> 37:09.827 [SPEAKER_03]: So that's interesting because then he really does change. 37:10.407 --> 37:11.747 [SPEAKER_03]: He's afraid of dying. 37:11.947 --> 37:13.088 [SPEAKER_03]: He's not afraid of John. 37:13.708 --> 37:14.308 [SPEAKER_06]: No, no. 37:15.208 --> 37:19.049 [SPEAKER_03]: He's afraid of whatever is about to go down. 37:20.361 --> 37:23.143 [SPEAKER_03]: And here's this thing that I want to a play for you. 37:24.403 --> 37:26.985 [SPEAKER_03]: And I'll have a better clip of it for feedback. 37:27.025 --> 37:31.928 [SPEAKER_03]: And I'll have more evidence because we hear this sound two other times. 37:31.968 --> 37:33.249 [SPEAKER_03]: And I got those audio recordings. 37:33.269 --> 37:37.011 [SPEAKER_03]: I just couldn't get everything stitched together and sounding nice, uh, do the comparison. 37:37.411 --> 37:38.011 [SPEAKER_03]: But listen. 37:39.932 --> 37:40.693 [SPEAKER_03]: You are free. 37:42.494 --> 37:44.175 [SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely fucking terrible. 37:44.895 --> 37:45.836 [SPEAKER_03]: OK, did you hear that? 37:45.856 --> 37:46.716 [SPEAKER_03]: Can we play together? 37:46.776 --> 37:47.777 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, right here. 37:50.604 --> 38:06.812 [SPEAKER_03]: What is that sound like somebody flying like somebody flying in even a coming in or leaving Somebody coming in Somebody's coming in and we hear the sound twice more very distinctly and I'll I'll bring the receipts on Thursday. 38:07.232 --> 38:12.515 [SPEAKER_03]: Nice catch I was like I was like because I heard that and I was like oh 38:14.608 --> 38:23.616 [SPEAKER_03]: And why did I I I replayed something because I miss it because I got like distracted or something and I just and I was like wait a minute, that's sound like I kind of accidentally caught it. 38:25.237 --> 38:35.166 [SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, I think, of course, we get the more of this great exposition about the pandas and the the constant doesn't have to be that green that green. 38:37.368 --> 38:40.270 [SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, I think whatever. 38:41.987 --> 38:47.872 [SPEAKER_03]: Whatever is going on, guy gardener is deep, deep, deep involved in this. 38:48.412 --> 38:49.153 [SPEAKER_03]: Hmm. 38:50.834 --> 38:51.214 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. 38:52.375 --> 38:53.676 [SPEAKER_02]: Because who makes that sound? 38:53.697 --> 38:55.298 [SPEAKER_02]: We hear garden garden twice a month. 38:55.718 --> 38:57.680 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we hear twice more in this episode. 38:57.860 --> 38:58.140 [SPEAKER_03]: God. 38:58.160 --> 39:01.643 [SPEAKER_03]: When it's an extra life escape, it's an extra did escape. 39:03.524 --> 39:04.245 [SPEAKER_02]: He was jailbroken. 39:08.468 --> 39:08.789 [SPEAKER_02]: So. 39:12.132 --> 39:24.641 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm saying, am I speculating here? 39:24.661 --> 39:26.942 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm saying he's involved. 39:27.743 --> 39:30.885 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm saying he's more involved than he's letting on. 39:31.065 --> 39:32.006 [SPEAKER_03]: Did he pull the trigger? 39:33.640 --> 39:35.241 [SPEAKER_03]: Who's going to who else would have done it? 39:35.501 --> 39:36.321 [SPEAKER_03]: Why would they have done it? 39:36.341 --> 39:38.922 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, that's the, I mean, we're going to find out in two episodes. 39:38.942 --> 39:48.967 [SPEAKER_03]: Hopefully, who and why, but yeah, I, I don't know what else to make because we hear the sound very distinctly twice more in this episode. 39:48.987 --> 39:53.909 [SPEAKER_03]: So they're laying, they're laying breadcrumbs out for us to to pick up on. 39:57.395 --> 40:01.917 [SPEAKER_03]: Alright, next scene, John returns home and receives a call from Sheriff Carrey about John. 40:02.017 --> 40:06.878 [SPEAKER_03]: He drives back to Rushville, and we pick up from where we left off at episode 1. 40:07.579 --> 40:17.842 [SPEAKER_03]: We learn about how moving back to Rushville after he was released from prison, his attempts to make amends and his relationship with Carrey. 40:28.040 --> 40:30.281 [SPEAKER_03]: And we were all like, oh, he's checking the ring. 40:30.341 --> 40:30.981 [SPEAKER_03]: What's going on? 40:31.021 --> 40:34.622 [SPEAKER_03]: He's got to go tea, you know, there's just no way. 40:35.122 --> 40:42.084 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know what you, but there's just no way that I could have predicted this story to end up this, like no way. 40:42.164 --> 40:44.105 [SPEAKER_06]: No way, no way, no way. 40:45.225 --> 40:46.186 [SPEAKER_06]: Didn't I see this happening? 40:46.686 --> 40:49.507 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 40:49.627 --> 40:50.827 [SPEAKER_03]: Why did he check for the ring? 40:52.272 --> 40:54.073 [SPEAKER_06]: That's the question that I do have. 40:54.333 --> 40:55.553 [SPEAKER_06]: Why did he look at his hand? 40:55.573 --> 41:00.534 [SPEAKER_06]: Did he want to just make sure that he wasn't wearing a ring? 41:03.055 --> 41:07.076 [SPEAKER_06]: That is because he hasn't had a ring in a long time. 41:08.517 --> 41:09.297 [SPEAKER_06]: He was in prison. 41:09.317 --> 41:11.757 [SPEAKER_03]: He was in prison on earth. 41:11.777 --> 41:13.478 [SPEAKER_06]: They said they took that ring away from him. 41:13.678 --> 41:15.939 [SPEAKER_06]: So why did he check the hand? 41:16.559 --> 41:20.500 [SPEAKER_06]: And that is, I hope that gets answered. 41:21.745 --> 41:30.151 [SPEAKER_06]: But because it just can't be a function, let me just double check, I don't think it's that. 41:31.852 --> 41:36.516 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think it's a double check just to make sure I don't think it's the right. 41:40.779 --> 41:45.923 [SPEAKER_03]: I thought, okay, so this is a weird little tangent. 41:47.203 --> 42:07.392 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, hats are very idiosyncratic, like, not only does the hat have to fit your head and kind of match your style, you as a person need to inhabit that hat in a way that you and the hat, like it's an extension of you and you're an extension of it. 42:07.412 --> 42:12.835 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, there's a relationship between somebody wearing a, I mean, you could throw a baseball hat cap on your head, whatever. 42:14.220 --> 42:17.521 [SPEAKER_03]: But to wear a big ass white hat, like, Harry does? 42:18.061 --> 42:21.401 [SPEAKER_03]: That's a big fucking hat. 42:22.202 --> 42:23.102 [SPEAKER_03]: And she rocks it. 42:23.402 --> 42:26.042 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry, she just absolutely rocks that hat. 42:26.082 --> 42:31.643 [SPEAKER_03]: So I've just got to get myself, I just got to get my heart take off on there. 42:31.763 --> 42:33.344 [SPEAKER_03]: And it's interesting too, it's a white hat. 42:35.384 --> 42:36.564 [SPEAKER_03]: It's not a brown hat. 42:36.984 --> 42:37.725 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm so new. 42:38.605 --> 42:39.505 [SPEAKER_03]: She's so smart. 42:41.274 --> 42:46.418 [SPEAKER_03]: And of course we were shipping the shipping these guys a little bit and sure enough there there we go. 42:46.458 --> 42:47.959 [SPEAKER_03]: They had something going on. 42:48.899 --> 42:52.622 [SPEAKER_03]: And uh, she says to, um, then this show, man, it's crazy. 42:52.642 --> 42:55.724 [SPEAKER_03]: It's always laying tracks and she's like, use the back door. 42:55.784 --> 42:56.805 [SPEAKER_03]: It's like, why? 42:56.825 --> 42:59.046 [SPEAKER_03]: And it's like, oh, well, we find out why later. 43:00.067 --> 43:04.950 [SPEAKER_03]: Anything else that to on the suspect. 43:05.951 --> 43:07.252 [SPEAKER_03]: Sheriff Kerry, like, what? 43:08.753 --> 43:12.396 [SPEAKER_03]: in this conversation was tripping your wires? 43:17.320 --> 43:20.202 [SPEAKER_06]: It's not the words that she's using. 43:20.423 --> 43:26.407 [SPEAKER_06]: It's just, and I don't think it was much of this conversation because this conversation was really about how. 43:27.548 --> 43:30.891 [SPEAKER_06]: And I felt the genuinely in that. 43:34.855 --> 43:40.000 [SPEAKER_06]: But as they're walking away, she's like, come for, you know, stay at his house. 43:40.620 --> 43:40.861 [SPEAKER_06]: Right. 43:41.341 --> 43:48.448 [SPEAKER_06]: You know, I have the key, it's, why, why does she want to stay? 43:48.468 --> 43:50.790 [SPEAKER_06]: Okay. 43:51.571 --> 43:53.973 [SPEAKER_06]: Why, he's ready to go back home. 43:55.274 --> 44:00.039 [SPEAKER_06]: There's, you know, he's not involved in the murder as far as she knows. 44:01.197 --> 44:17.264 [SPEAKER_06]: Right, he's not a green lantern, he's not a cop, he's an architect, he's not going to help with the solving of this murder, why she asking him to stay and not only stay, you know, you can stay at House House. 44:18.385 --> 44:20.806 [SPEAKER_03]: Do you think what about this? 44:22.894 --> 44:27.796 [SPEAKER_03]: Did Hal and Carrie have kind of a plan or some contingencies? 44:28.716 --> 44:33.018 [SPEAKER_03]: Did they discuss, like, was she aware of what Hal was working on? 44:33.038 --> 44:36.179 [SPEAKER_03]: Because I don't think he was just there to most people's lawns. 44:37.260 --> 44:38.700 [SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't seem that way though. 44:39.861 --> 44:43.482 [SPEAKER_06]: It doesn't seem to me that she was prepared for his death. 44:45.545 --> 44:48.727 [SPEAKER_03]: And he even caught and John even later calls it out. 44:48.767 --> 44:51.809 [SPEAKER_03]: She's like, you're too real to throw a fake cry at me. 44:51.829 --> 44:53.270 [SPEAKER_03]: It's just throw some fake tears at me. 44:53.630 --> 44:54.471 [SPEAKER_06]: And that's another thing. 44:54.511 --> 45:01.855 [SPEAKER_06]: I'm like, is she though, is she to real the fake cry? 45:02.315 --> 45:02.616 [SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm. 45:03.656 --> 45:04.597 [SPEAKER_03]: Now why you even say that? 45:05.913 --> 45:09.356 [SPEAKER_03]: to throw us off the track, to get me to sympathize. 45:09.857 --> 45:12.419 [SPEAKER_03]: They're like, we know David, he's going to sympathize. 45:12.479 --> 45:13.240 [SPEAKER_03]: And it's here, Gary. 45:13.400 --> 45:16.402 [SPEAKER_06]: You know, at that point, wait, why am I saying it? 45:16.422 --> 45:17.924 [SPEAKER_06]: Because she's like, I could be the murderer. 45:18.464 --> 45:18.965 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 45:19.185 --> 45:21.307 [SPEAKER_06]: And he's like, no, I think it's really good. 45:22.108 --> 45:22.888 [SPEAKER_06]: It can't be you. 45:24.069 --> 45:24.490 [SPEAKER_03]: No way. 45:24.510 --> 45:28.033 [SPEAKER_03]: I think it's a really good, I think it's a really good red harring, isn't it? 45:29.554 --> 45:30.795 [SPEAKER_03]: To throw us off the scent. 45:32.097 --> 45:32.337 [SPEAKER_06]: So, 45:33.568 --> 45:37.749 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, just, and then when she invites him to, I guess when she invites him to dinner. 45:37.769 --> 45:38.729 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 45:38.869 --> 45:41.310 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, the whole thing that for now, I was just curious about this scene. 45:41.410 --> 45:42.910 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, what was it about this scene? 45:42.930 --> 45:43.971 [SPEAKER_03]: That was tripping your wire. 45:43.991 --> 45:53.733 [SPEAKER_06]: So yeah, it was just, you know, yeah, he's not involved in any of the shenanigans. 45:55.654 --> 45:57.174 [SPEAKER_06]: Let that man go home to his life. 45:58.154 --> 46:00.475 [SPEAKER_06]: You already know that he's hated in this town. 46:01.297 --> 46:06.041 [SPEAKER_06]: But he came to hear how he's apologized. 46:06.662 --> 46:07.762 [SPEAKER_06]: She doesn't know. 46:08.943 --> 46:10.144 [SPEAKER_06]: She wasn't privy to that. 46:13.888 --> 46:14.788 [SPEAKER_06]: She wasn't privy to. 46:15.429 --> 46:16.049 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, he doesn't. 46:16.810 --> 46:18.331 [SPEAKER_03]: But then, okay, all right. 46:19.632 --> 46:24.616 [SPEAKER_03]: Because he just, he wants to find out, that's what I was saying before about the diner scene is that, 46:26.204 --> 46:33.226 [SPEAKER_03]: How was planting it was like doing some manipulation to get John invested back into the dynamic? 46:34.466 --> 46:39.387 [SPEAKER_03]: Because he knows that if he didn't survive, whatever was about to happen, only John could be. 46:39.507 --> 46:42.027 [SPEAKER_03]: John is the only one who's going to care about solving his murder. 46:44.148 --> 46:45.428 [SPEAKER_03]: But he didn't care. 46:46.308 --> 46:47.449 [SPEAKER_02]: He was ready to go home. 46:48.749 --> 46:49.329 [SPEAKER_02]: He did go home. 46:56.679 --> 47:07.090 [SPEAKER_06]: So okay, let me, there's a shot of how on the bleachers. 47:07.651 --> 47:07.911 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 47:09.712 --> 47:14.996 [SPEAKER_06]: and carry and junior are walking out of the field. 47:15.537 --> 47:15.817 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 47:16.437 --> 47:24.824 [SPEAKER_06]: And you just see how in the bleacher becoming less and less and less as they walk away from the body. 47:26.405 --> 47:31.769 [SPEAKER_06]: That just stuck with me for, I don't, I don't know for the last day and a half. 47:32.269 --> 47:32.689 [SPEAKER_06]: Interesting. 47:33.470 --> 47:35.231 [SPEAKER_06]: Just that scene. 47:39.563 --> 47:43.525 [SPEAKER_06]: in the diner, the diminishment of how Jordan. 47:45.867 --> 47:53.231 [SPEAKER_06]: And watching them walk away from the body and just seeing the body becoming golfed in darkness and the snowstorm or whatever. 47:53.791 --> 47:54.311 [SPEAKER_06]: Right, yeah. 47:54.411 --> 47:58.894 [SPEAKER_06]: To the point where you don't even, it's a silly, what, almost, you know. 47:59.454 --> 48:02.556 [SPEAKER_03]: But the opposite is actually happening the show, how is getting bigger and bigger. 48:02.576 --> 48:07.378 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I know, I know that this one I'm saying, that's why it's stuck with me, right? 48:09.098 --> 48:13.042 [SPEAKER_06]: All in no way in the context of the story is diminished, right? 48:13.142 --> 48:20.969 [SPEAKER_06]: But how himself in the context of their lives looks to me a shell of himself. 48:21.609 --> 48:22.009 [SPEAKER_06]: Interesting. 48:22.490 --> 48:26.153 [SPEAKER_06]: And that in that moment that he's in the in the diner. 48:27.454 --> 48:29.916 [SPEAKER_06]: So yeah, that's just something messed up with me. 48:30.477 --> 48:30.857 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, cool. 48:31.238 --> 48:32.439 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, let's take another quick break. 48:32.459 --> 48:35.842 [SPEAKER_03]: And then we'll pick up with a scene again and go from there. 48:45.157 --> 48:48.859 [SPEAKER_03]: And we're back, we did not take a short break. 48:48.879 --> 48:51.160 [SPEAKER_03]: We took almost a near 24-hour break. 48:51.200 --> 48:54.522 [SPEAKER_03]: We ran into some technical issues last night. 48:54.542 --> 48:56.123 [SPEAKER_03]: And then I think I was kind of crashed out. 48:56.143 --> 48:57.123 [SPEAKER_03]: I had a long day. 48:57.144 --> 49:00.465 [SPEAKER_03]: We do this on a, this is not our full-time job. 49:00.525 --> 49:04.587 [SPEAKER_03]: So, we have our full lives and then we do this when we do this. 49:04.687 --> 49:08.790 [SPEAKER_03]: And so, yeah, I think yesterday I was a little puntyly when I was, yeah, you crashed out, bro. 49:09.537 --> 49:11.258 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you out of it. 49:11.278 --> 49:12.900 [SPEAKER_03]: You done. 49:12.940 --> 49:13.400 [SPEAKER_03]: You were done. 49:13.860 --> 49:15.161 [SPEAKER_03]: What's the second? 49:15.582 --> 49:16.062 [SPEAKER_06]: You would done. 49:16.082 --> 49:17.303 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh my god. 49:17.363 --> 49:21.987 [SPEAKER_03]: And that's the thing that tech issues can just so they just sap your energy you're creative and. 49:22.867 --> 49:24.649 [SPEAKER_03]: But with that we're ready to roll. 49:24.669 --> 49:26.610 [SPEAKER_03]: We're going to hit up with scene three. 49:26.670 --> 49:30.353 [SPEAKER_03]: This is a little bit of a combined scene at dinner 49:37.425 --> 49:53.862 [SPEAKER_03]: way at the diner, did I say at the diner, sorry, at the diner, it's a remote nodes, two of carry talks to Maggie, who covers for John, carry deputizes John, and they head for the morgue to discuss the autopsy results with bitsy, the medical examiner, and then head for, 49:54.483 --> 50:18.378 [SPEAKER_03]: Four doors, four doors, four doors, four doors, four doors, four doors, four doors, four doors, four doors, four doors, four doors, four doors, four doors, four doors, four doors, four doors, four doors, four doors, four doors, four doors, four doors, four doors, four doors, four doors, four doors, four doors, four doors, four doors, four doors, four doors, four doors, four doors, four doors, four doors, four doors, four doors, four doors, four doors, four doors, four doors, four doors, four doors, four doors, four doors, four doors, four doors, four doors, four doors, four doors, four doors, four doors, four doors, four doors, four doors, four doors, four doors, four doors, four doors, four doors, four doors, four doors, four doors, four doors, four doors, four doors, four doors, four doors, four doors, four doors, four doors, four doors, four doors, four doors, four doors, four 50:20.288 --> 50:22.051 [SPEAKER_03]: So he's talking about Maggie, I guess real quick. 50:22.633 --> 50:23.214 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, gone. 50:23.975 --> 50:24.636 [SPEAKER_06]: I knew it was her. 50:24.917 --> 50:26.941 [SPEAKER_06]: I knew, like, you knew who she was. 50:26.981 --> 50:27.442 [SPEAKER_06]: The watchker. 50:27.462 --> 50:29.225 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, yeah, I knew it was the watchker. 50:29.826 --> 50:31.289 [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know, I just knew it. 50:32.654 --> 50:40.257 [SPEAKER_03]: And they made a point of John at the end of his episode five picking up that watch and then giving it to the young girl. 50:40.277 --> 50:48.679 [SPEAKER_03]: And there were two girls there and then I thought for a second maybe it was the other girl Kishik earlier hair, whatever, but really it's about the watch because later on it, it connects up with. 50:48.739 --> 50:49.099 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 50:49.219 --> 50:49.440 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 50:49.580 --> 50:50.500 [SPEAKER_03]: As you know, watches. 50:51.340 --> 50:51.780 [SPEAKER_06]: Suppose. 50:51.860 --> 50:56.322 [SPEAKER_06]: Oh my God, this is, this has to be one of the kids that was. 50:56.362 --> 50:56.622 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 50:57.422 --> 50:58.142 [SPEAKER_06]: in that scene. 50:58.262 --> 50:59.363 [SPEAKER_06]: So I kind of knew. 50:59.923 --> 51:12.346 [SPEAKER_06]: And then, um, just a conversation, I was wondering why why John would not tell Kerry that he punched how, right, that he was at the diner with how. 51:13.006 --> 51:13.227 [SPEAKER_06]: Right. 51:13.547 --> 51:15.747 [SPEAKER_06]: And what was that about? 51:15.767 --> 51:17.368 [SPEAKER_06]: What was this calculation with that? 51:17.448 --> 51:20.649 [SPEAKER_06]: Is he just as untrusting of Kerry as I am? 51:20.669 --> 51:21.869 [SPEAKER_06]: Or is there, um, 51:25.410 --> 51:26.811 [SPEAKER_06]: How does he have other reasons? 51:27.552 --> 51:43.943 [SPEAKER_06]: But I think it's in this scene where they're talking, I'm throwing off a little bit by Carrie here, and the combination of the scenes, especially when she just invites him to dinner. 51:44.904 --> 51:45.885 [SPEAKER_06]: There was something like, 51:47.477 --> 51:48.878 [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know, there was something this way. 51:49.438 --> 51:50.838 [SPEAKER_03]: She's working hard at being friendly. 51:51.338 --> 51:52.879 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah. 51:52.919 --> 51:53.679 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, yeah. 51:53.699 --> 51:54.120 [SPEAKER_03]: Got you. 51:54.360 --> 51:56.280 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I don't know if I agree with you, but I got you. 51:56.300 --> 51:57.681 [SPEAKER_06]: No, I don't see what you're doing. 51:57.781 --> 52:05.204 [SPEAKER_06]: No, I know you don't agree with it, but it's just like, I think what you just said is exactly what I was thinking and was struggling to say. 52:05.224 --> 52:06.444 [SPEAKER_06]: She's working too hard at it. 52:07.004 --> 52:07.224 [SPEAKER_06]: Right. 52:07.865 --> 52:08.945 [SPEAKER_06]: And it's given me pause. 52:10.726 --> 52:12.927 [SPEAKER_03]: Which is 20, yeah, go ahead, grab. 52:13.127 --> 52:13.587 [SPEAKER_03]: No, man. 52:14.777 --> 52:30.870 [SPEAKER_03]: I was just going to say, I was really loving the playful interaction and not only the character vibe, but that Aaron Pierre and Carrie McDonald's, they're working really with their on-screen chemistry. 52:30.890 --> 52:31.831 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah. 52:31.871 --> 52:32.371 [SPEAKER_03]: Really good. 52:32.451 --> 52:33.072 [SPEAKER_03]: Formuses. 52:34.053 --> 52:38.556 [SPEAKER_03]: And I was just loving the playful thing, like the whole deputizing thing. 52:38.576 --> 52:39.857 [SPEAKER_03]: I think I have the audio quote here. 52:39.897 --> 52:40.078 [SPEAKER_03]: Let's. 52:41.339 --> 52:42.800 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it needs me at the morgue. 52:44.093 --> 52:44.714 [SPEAKER_04]: Your old company? 52:45.394 --> 52:47.516 [SPEAKER_04]: Uh, I love an autopsy. 52:48.097 --> 52:50.218 [SPEAKER_01]: That's very thoughtful and weird. 52:51.199 --> 52:52.240 [SPEAKER_01]: But you're a civilian. 52:52.260 --> 52:54.362 [SPEAKER_04]: Go ahead and deputize me. 52:55.263 --> 52:55.623 [SPEAKER_04]: Right now. 52:56.904 --> 53:00.227 [SPEAKER_01]: By the power vested in me, you're fucking deputized. 53:00.247 --> 53:00.748 [SPEAKER_01]: Boom! 53:01.929 --> 53:02.950 [SPEAKER_03]: That might be so shit. 53:04.938 --> 53:23.609 [SPEAKER_03]: Just that there's like there's a banter, there's this playfulness, there's this ease between them that I just I, from a, just a, a viewer standpoint, I'm just digging their, their energy and it's interesting that you find her that same energy is such. 53:24.149 --> 53:27.031 [SPEAKER_06]: But you said the same thing about her banter with how? 53:27.731 --> 53:29.372 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, okay. 53:30.032 --> 53:32.593 [SPEAKER_03]: All right, calling me to calling me out here on. 53:33.013 --> 53:35.954 [SPEAKER_06]: No, no, but I'm just saying it's the same energy. 53:36.474 --> 53:38.075 [SPEAKER_06]: Yes, me, she's given on. 53:38.115 --> 53:39.875 [SPEAKER_06]: No, yeah, you're you're holding me to account here. 53:40.095 --> 53:41.556 [SPEAKER_06]: You're not letting me shift like this. 53:42.076 --> 53:45.777 [SPEAKER_06]: No, you know, both of these guys is the same type of field, right? 53:46.037 --> 53:46.317 [SPEAKER_06]: Sure. 53:46.337 --> 53:46.517 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 53:46.537 --> 53:48.058 [SPEAKER_06]: So what's real and what's not? 53:49.791 --> 53:50.451 [SPEAKER_06]: That's interesting. 53:50.972 --> 53:52.193 [SPEAKER_06]: That's what's got me thinking. 53:52.773 --> 53:53.073 [SPEAKER_06]: Okay. 53:53.574 --> 53:53.934 [SPEAKER_06]: All right. 53:53.974 --> 53:54.995 [SPEAKER_06]: No speculations. 53:55.055 --> 53:55.495 [SPEAKER_06]: Just questions. 53:55.515 --> 53:56.276 [SPEAKER_03]: There's all my musings. 53:58.157 --> 53:59.238 [SPEAKER_03]: The musings of Joel. 53:59.838 --> 54:00.158 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. 54:02.220 --> 54:13.388 [SPEAKER_03]: So, and I think, well, I was thinking about why it doesn't he's anything about being at the diner and why he just sort of lets it slide with me, you winked at him. 54:14.522 --> 54:37.500 [SPEAKER_03]: is because how said, tell no one, like keep it absolutely secret, and that was, that's what's interesting is that how so in that moment he's so afraid, he's not afraid of John or having been struck by John, but I think it's like you said yesterday now that the punch 54:42.898 --> 54:52.962 [SPEAKER_03]: asshole protein or routine and in that moment he was like really authentic and I don't think John had ever seen him like that before. 54:54.563 --> 55:11.391 [SPEAKER_03]: That disturbed by something and I think like I was saying before that's all the the kind of play that how was trying to make to get John invested to stay and to do the investigation and so I think the implicit promise is that John 55:12.595 --> 55:17.499 [SPEAKER_03]: is going to tell no one about you know that that he was involved. 55:17.720 --> 55:37.497 [SPEAKER_03]: Now where I question it is why didn't he say anything about Billy and the other town you know residents who beat you know who they get in a fight with around the beacon because that's that's obvious that has nothing to do with house murder that's just some you know people being roughians right you know and and he defended himself and yeah I would have spoiled dinner but 55:39.051 --> 55:40.413 [SPEAKER_03]: he shouldn't have kept that secret. 55:41.134 --> 55:42.475 [SPEAKER_03]: That's the one that confuses me. 55:43.857 --> 55:48.482 [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, I don't know if he fully trust Kerry. 55:50.785 --> 55:55.590 [SPEAKER_03]: I think John's, I think how's message was basically trust no one. 55:55.610 --> 55:56.531 [SPEAKER_03]: He didn't save that. 55:57.547 --> 55:57.887 [SPEAKER_03]: No, yeah. 55:57.907 --> 56:01.068 [SPEAKER_03]: But the implication is, you know, one is to be trusted. 56:01.548 --> 56:01.948 [SPEAKER_06]: Period. 56:02.028 --> 56:04.649 [SPEAKER_06]: And he's already not trusting this all-white town. 56:05.569 --> 56:10.430 [SPEAKER_06]: Whether Kerry, whether Sheriff Kerry was cool with them 10 years a row or not. 56:10.930 --> 56:11.170 [SPEAKER_06]: Right. 56:11.330 --> 56:13.911 [SPEAKER_06]: You know, he's not going to be true. 56:13.931 --> 56:15.631 [SPEAKER_06]: You don't believe Maggie that they're not racist. 56:20.873 --> 56:22.933 [SPEAKER_06]: You know, no, I don't believe her. 56:27.014 --> 56:33.056 [SPEAKER_06]: him not telling Kerry that he beat up her excitement and some local towns folk. 56:33.536 --> 56:34.637 [SPEAKER_06]: Was it surprising to me? 56:34.977 --> 56:37.738 [SPEAKER_06]: Because I'm not telling no cops what I did. 56:38.318 --> 56:38.958 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 56:39.458 --> 56:39.638 [SPEAKER_06]: Right. 56:39.678 --> 56:44.260 [SPEAKER_06]: So I think that, yeah, it's just, 56:45.432 --> 56:53.519 [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know when she and how started their relationship while how was in jail according to her, right? 56:53.539 --> 56:56.021 [SPEAKER_06]: Because we don't have house version of this. 56:56.061 --> 56:58.303 [SPEAKER_06]: We have her version of this. 56:59.004 --> 57:03.408 [SPEAKER_06]: So allegedly they started this relationship while he's in jail writing each other blah, blah, blah, blah. 57:03.908 --> 57:07.531 [SPEAKER_06]: And then he comes to the town for her, right? 57:08.172 --> 57:12.936 [SPEAKER_06]: But then we find out from her that he's doing all this other stuff that's not particularly for her. 57:14.832 --> 57:21.621 [SPEAKER_06]: Because he's actually engaging the people of Rushville trying to make a men's for what happened. 57:22.408 --> 57:22.708 [SPEAKER_06]: Right. 57:23.368 --> 57:23.848 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 57:24.288 --> 57:37.191 [SPEAKER_03]: And that to me is a little bit suss because we about how, about how, because when John shows up and says, okay, you know, hit me, like you not hit me, but like, okay, you get your apology and he's like, what a apology. 57:37.211 --> 57:37.951 [SPEAKER_03]: What are you talking about? 57:38.451 --> 57:42.972 [SPEAKER_03]: He's his usual sarcastic, sarconic self. 57:43.012 --> 57:45.153 [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm like, oh, this is not the behavior of a, 57:46.093 --> 57:59.423 [SPEAKER_03]: caged man who's done his time and he's seeking penance and trying to make recompense, you know, with the townsfolk, this is how doing how and I don't wonder if his can I mow your lawn? 57:59.443 --> 58:00.764 [SPEAKER_03]: Can I carry your grocery's home? 58:01.265 --> 58:04.667 [SPEAKER_03]: Was it deep cover investigation? 58:06.208 --> 58:12.533 [SPEAKER_06]: It could have been, but notice both Bernadette and Sheriff Kerry are saying that 58:14.677 --> 58:16.358 [SPEAKER_06]: He's a trained person. 58:18.460 --> 58:19.220 [SPEAKER_06]: Do you believe it? 58:21.202 --> 58:24.564 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't believe them because... Yeah. 58:24.584 --> 58:26.425 [SPEAKER_03]: You don't believe how can change? 58:26.485 --> 58:29.147 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, we know how can change because I know how to change. 58:29.588 --> 58:29.888 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 58:29.968 --> 58:33.811 [SPEAKER_03]: We know the hologram is like a marker of difference between character. 58:34.451 --> 58:35.372 [SPEAKER_06]: How can change? 58:36.012 --> 58:42.337 [SPEAKER_06]: But the way that both of them have spoken to John about how? 58:43.924 --> 58:48.147 [SPEAKER_06]: how himself is like, I'm not there yet. 58:48.707 --> 58:51.809 [SPEAKER_06]: He's telling John this basically, like, apology. 58:52.409 --> 58:54.291 [SPEAKER_06]: I got nothing to apologize for you for. 58:54.411 --> 58:57.373 [SPEAKER_06]: I didn't attend your bid for you to fall. 58:57.633 --> 58:57.913 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 58:58.093 --> 58:58.733 [SPEAKER_06]: You know what I mean? 58:58.814 --> 59:05.838 [SPEAKER_06]: So, I don't think this change in how is, yeah, I don't buy it. 59:05.958 --> 59:10.941 [SPEAKER_06]: I don't buy it like they're selling either Bernadette, obviously Bernadette, now we know Bernadette was lying. 59:13.072 --> 59:16.513 [SPEAKER_06]: And I'm not buying, you know, sheriff pen. 59:17.393 --> 59:19.734 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm loving this show. 59:19.754 --> 59:31.477 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm loving the track that they lay down with sheriff carry and how just the lightest hint of their kind of into each other and there's kind of a vibe. 59:32.674 --> 59:42.803 [SPEAKER_03]: And then they're able to pull that thread and then yeah, create this whole other relationship that they have after he gets out of, you know, starting from prison forever and it just see it's like, oh, yeah, that kind of makes sense. 59:42.823 --> 59:52.352 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, that is just really nuanced writing and just deaf character play portrayal of actors and then just these calmplexities of the 59:53.599 --> 01:00:10.970 [SPEAKER_03]: politics of personality, not politics is in government politics, but I'm like, how you're fronting and how people are reacting to you and how you're trying to get them to kind of do this or that in your actions and your, I look, I'm loving the dynamics of the show at this granular level. 01:00:11.010 --> 01:00:14.332 [SPEAKER_03]: It's a very satisfying show in that regard. 01:00:14.472 --> 01:00:15.833 [SPEAKER_02]: Sorry, I just had to geek out for it. 01:00:15.993 --> 01:00:16.713 [SPEAKER_03]: No, yeah, yeah, yeah. 01:00:16.833 --> 01:00:19.415 [SPEAKER_03]: I had to glaze a little, glaze the show a little bit. 01:00:20.251 --> 01:00:25.174 [SPEAKER_03]: So we go over to the morgue with Bitsie who's just like watch it. 01:00:25.254 --> 01:00:25.614 [SPEAKER_03]: I care. 01:00:26.075 --> 01:00:28.937 [SPEAKER_03]: Why the load of sunshine, Bitsie is. 01:00:29.997 --> 01:00:32.199 [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, I can't wait to grab a cup of coffee with Bitsie. 01:00:33.619 --> 01:00:34.460 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, go Huskers. 01:00:35.861 --> 01:00:38.102 [SPEAKER_03]: The skiers as a house as later. 01:00:38.923 --> 01:00:41.164 [SPEAKER_03]: The Nebraska corn huskers football team. 01:00:41.224 --> 01:00:45.227 [SPEAKER_03]: This is basically religion for, I think, this part of. 01:00:46.404 --> 01:00:47.124 [SPEAKER_03]: the country. 01:00:47.584 --> 01:00:55.747 [SPEAKER_03]: Third NCAA Division I, football team representing University of Nebraska, Lincoln in the big 10 conference. 01:00:57.448 --> 01:01:03.830 [SPEAKER_03]: I guess they've played every home game at the Memorial Stadium since 1923 and sold out every game since 1962. 01:01:03.870 --> 01:01:04.270 [SPEAKER_03]: It's crazy. 01:01:09.190 --> 01:01:15.997 [SPEAKER_03]: and they've got like, I don't know, eight all-time victories among their division or something. 01:01:16.017 --> 01:01:17.739 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to get in trouble with the football people. 01:01:17.759 --> 01:01:19.281 [SPEAKER_03]: Hey, man, I think that's fine. 01:01:19.301 --> 01:01:19.641 [SPEAKER_03]: Hey, good night. 01:01:19.661 --> 01:01:20.622 [SPEAKER_03]: They're going to come see you, man. 01:01:20.642 --> 01:01:21.303 [SPEAKER_03]: They're going to come see you. 01:01:21.804 --> 01:01:22.605 [SPEAKER_03]: I can mispronounce. 01:01:22.645 --> 01:01:23.225 [SPEAKER_03]: Galadriel. 01:01:23.445 --> 01:01:24.166 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, my hand. 01:01:24.807 --> 01:01:26.008 [SPEAKER_03]: I can talk a little bit. 01:01:26.028 --> 01:01:28.170 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 01:01:28.371 --> 01:01:30.193 [SPEAKER_06]: I got this, let me just say. 01:01:30.233 --> 01:01:31.054 [SPEAKER_06]: Let me just say. 01:01:31.982 --> 01:01:37.725 [SPEAKER_06]: the brass the core huskers have fallen off the face of theirs as a college football team. 01:01:38.205 --> 01:01:42.228 [SPEAKER_06]: Last time here a relevant was when Lawrence Phillips was in the back field. 01:01:43.048 --> 01:01:45.729 [SPEAKER_06]: And so let's just let's move on. 01:01:45.810 --> 01:01:46.490 [SPEAKER_06]: Move along. 01:01:46.630 --> 01:01:47.510 [SPEAKER_06]: All right fair enough. 01:01:47.590 --> 01:01:49.071 [SPEAKER_06]: There's more fair enough. 01:01:49.111 --> 01:01:49.552 [SPEAKER_06]: They go. 01:01:49.632 --> 01:01:53.994 [SPEAKER_03]: You can add me anybody can add me about that. 01:01:54.034 --> 01:01:58.736 [SPEAKER_03]: We don't have a we don't have a sports affiliate podcast in the Louroun's network. 01:01:58.796 --> 01:01:59.137 [SPEAKER_03]: So. 01:01:59.912 --> 01:02:03.973 [SPEAKER_03]: There's, there's, there's more sports podcasts than than we can even imagine. 01:02:04.033 --> 01:02:05.773 [SPEAKER_03]: So we're going to just move a lot of that. 01:02:06.193 --> 01:02:11.175 [SPEAKER_03]: They go over to the, what do we call it, the fortress of storage. 01:02:11.455 --> 01:02:12.655 [SPEAKER_03]: I love John too. 01:02:12.675 --> 01:02:19.156 [SPEAKER_03]: He's like, he's like, well, we could hack his phone traces movements or we could just do, like, good detective work, right? 01:02:19.176 --> 01:02:23.417 [SPEAKER_03]: Just look at the obvious clues that are in front of you exactly that's funny. 01:02:23.437 --> 01:02:26.258 [SPEAKER_03]: Though it has the bird on it, which is interesting. 01:02:27.263 --> 01:02:37.565 [SPEAKER_03]: but they find this very large vault, which we had an experience of a small one, so we understand the mechanics of this thing, but it's a giant normus. 01:02:39.665 --> 01:02:41.945 [SPEAKER_03]: So what the hell is going on? 01:02:42.166 --> 01:02:43.026 [SPEAKER_03]: How did he get it? 01:02:43.106 --> 01:02:44.186 [SPEAKER_03]: Where did it come from? 01:02:45.426 --> 01:02:46.646 [SPEAKER_03]: How did he get it delivered? 01:02:47.926 --> 01:02:53.207 [SPEAKER_03]: So, yeah, I mean, talk about mystery, talk about introducing a mystery, any particular thoughts? 01:02:54.208 --> 01:02:55.588 [SPEAKER_03]: Now I just wanted to know what's in the vault. 01:02:57.960 --> 01:02:59.401 [SPEAKER_03]: What is the safeguarding? 01:02:59.421 --> 01:03:00.982 [SPEAKER_03]: Is the safeguarding something? 01:03:01.843 --> 01:03:03.144 [SPEAKER_03]: Is the safeguarding it or is he? 01:03:04.044 --> 01:03:05.545 [SPEAKER_03]: Is it, does it have one of those? 01:03:06.566 --> 01:03:07.587 [SPEAKER_03]: Is it a bag of holding? 01:03:07.627 --> 01:03:12.170 [SPEAKER_03]: Is it like one of those trained, a fold space, a portal whole things? 01:03:12.250 --> 01:03:14.211 [SPEAKER_03]: Where you can store stuff? 01:03:14.952 --> 01:03:15.492 [SPEAKER_03]: Or is it? 01:03:16.053 --> 01:03:20.536 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, because that's where John got the, The lantern from the first time. 01:03:21.676 --> 01:03:23.938 [SPEAKER_06]: Right, but that was like a little one. 01:03:23.958 --> 01:03:24.118 [SPEAKER_06]: I know. 01:03:24.138 --> 01:03:25.979 [SPEAKER_06]: This is why I wouldn't know what's in this vault. 01:03:27.918 --> 01:03:29.359 [SPEAKER_06]: I want to know what's in that void. 01:03:29.519 --> 01:03:30.319 [SPEAKER_06]: There's something there. 01:03:30.539 --> 01:03:33.981 [SPEAKER_06]: Got to be so they try to use the the voice trick. 01:03:34.361 --> 01:03:38.122 [SPEAKER_03]: And I just love how it plays out. 01:03:38.162 --> 01:03:40.343 [SPEAKER_03]: But first of all, we have to talk about Buttercopp really quick. 01:03:44.205 --> 01:03:44.925 [SPEAKER_03]: We all know this song. 01:03:44.985 --> 01:03:45.545 [SPEAKER_03]: Right? 01:03:45.606 --> 01:03:46.406 [SPEAKER_03]: It was like Buttercopp. 01:03:46.466 --> 01:03:47.746 [SPEAKER_03]: And I googled it. 01:03:47.766 --> 01:03:48.367 [SPEAKER_03]: It was like. 01:03:56.546 --> 01:04:03.072 [SPEAKER_07]: The heart part about it and Paul David's drink right there. 01:04:03.772 --> 01:04:11.760 [SPEAKER_06]: I can see David you can't and David is swaying David's swaying in a minute. 01:04:11.960 --> 01:04:13.781 [SPEAKER_03]: There's been a while since I seen you swaying. 01:04:15.943 --> 01:04:19.205 [SPEAKER_03]: It's hard to pull audio clips because you just want to like oh wait. 01:04:19.225 --> 01:04:19.905 [SPEAKER_03]: This is the good bit. 01:04:19.925 --> 01:04:20.386 [SPEAKER_03]: This is it. 01:04:20.406 --> 01:04:21.226 [SPEAKER_03]: Where do I cut it off? 01:04:21.246 --> 01:04:23.367 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, it can't run like super long clips. 01:04:23.447 --> 01:04:25.208 [SPEAKER_03]: So that was a little frustrating. 01:04:25.429 --> 01:04:43.359 [SPEAKER_03]: But obviously we all know that song 1968 the foundations calling young singing league vocals Big hit number one on the top 100 and the billboard top one hundred in 1969 Certified gold and really quick and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah Fun song 01:04:44.179 --> 01:04:49.901 [SPEAKER_03]: but obviously he that's what he tries to give Carrie for her pet name, which is cute. 01:04:50.621 --> 01:04:55.122 [SPEAKER_03]: But the obviously the vault is like, no dude. 01:04:55.222 --> 01:04:55.582 [SPEAKER_03]: No. 01:04:56.223 --> 01:04:56.403 [SPEAKER_03]: No. 01:04:56.703 --> 01:04:57.163 [SPEAKER_03]: Just no. 01:04:59.964 --> 01:05:05.145 [SPEAKER_03]: I think because the first vault, how was actually on the speaker phone? 01:05:05.185 --> 01:05:06.146 [SPEAKER_03]: He was actually alive. 01:05:06.186 --> 01:05:06.766 [SPEAKER_03]: So the vault. 01:05:08.068 --> 01:05:13.252 [SPEAKER_03]: was able to understand that that was an actual live communication not a playback recording. 01:05:13.352 --> 01:05:17.735 [SPEAKER_03]: So that's got to, you know, that's some serious AI in that bulk. 01:05:18.455 --> 01:05:23.499 [SPEAKER_06]: No, I think the first role was wasn't activated on house voice. 01:05:24.479 --> 01:05:27.922 [SPEAKER_06]: It was strictly like the password activated. 01:05:29.323 --> 01:05:36.488 [SPEAKER_06]: This, this vault has an extra layer that is not going to open unless it's housed voice that opens it. 01:05:37.213 --> 01:05:39.494 [SPEAKER_06]: So, again, do you think to Halle's grandma work? 01:05:40.954 --> 01:05:42.235 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. 01:05:43.555 --> 01:05:46.696 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, because I think what the vault is looking for is like actual interaction. 01:05:47.456 --> 01:05:49.697 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think that he has a limited AI. 01:05:50.257 --> 01:05:51.998 [SPEAKER_03]: It's like, oh, okay, are you there? 01:05:52.138 --> 01:05:52.618 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm here. 01:05:52.778 --> 01:05:53.338 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, cool. 01:05:53.778 --> 01:05:56.339 [SPEAKER_03]: Like what color is, what color are my eyes? 01:05:56.359 --> 01:05:59.460 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, whatever, like you can actually have a back and forth with youth validate. 01:06:00.500 --> 01:06:01.841 [SPEAKER_06]: No, I think Halle Graham will work. 01:06:02.401 --> 01:06:04.501 [SPEAKER_06]: Okay, at least that's what Juniors is counting on. 01:06:04.561 --> 01:06:06.062 [SPEAKER_06]: Juniors counting on the Halle Graham work. 01:06:06.974 --> 01:06:09.436 [SPEAKER_03]: He juniors like already a couple of steps ahead of me. 01:06:09.456 --> 01:06:11.459 [SPEAKER_03]: I didn't even think he's a movie. 01:06:11.599 --> 01:06:17.306 [SPEAKER_03]: He worked guy to get the ring He's just yeah, he's he's all up. 01:06:17.386 --> 01:06:18.087 [SPEAKER_03]: He's all about it. 01:06:19.549 --> 01:06:20.570 [SPEAKER_03]: He's actually pretty good. 01:06:20.610 --> 01:06:23.393 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, let's move on to scene four while buying beer 01:06:24.323 --> 01:06:35.353 [SPEAKER_03]: Remember don't forget the beer, John gets a call about his father who's just been moved into the comfort cove facility, and then John is confronted by a standy of guy gardener. 01:06:35.373 --> 01:06:41.478 [SPEAKER_03]: This is our first on-screen for this show, picture of guy gardener, selling some, what was it? 01:06:41.598 --> 01:06:44.361 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, whereas we had some pictures of it in the discord. 01:06:44.381 --> 01:06:46.483 [SPEAKER_03]: People were making fun of it, whatever that drink was. 01:06:49.903 --> 01:06:59.370 [SPEAKER_03]: And after John activates the beacon, he has a little playtime with some of the locals bringing a new meaning to the term Fafo. 01:06:59.390 --> 01:07:14.880 [SPEAKER_03]: Those guys, anyway, I did her, we'll talk about it here, I did her, we learned that the secret son of the man hunter is interested in politics. 01:07:15.100 --> 01:07:18.423 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not sure he can it, I'm not sure he can it. 01:07:19.423 --> 01:07:26.186 [SPEAKER_03]: Um, Kara gets a call that John Jr. was actually in an altercation and then precedes the throw his ass in jail. 01:07:28.647 --> 01:07:29.987 [SPEAKER_03]: So, oh, here it is. 01:07:30.047 --> 01:07:33.689 [SPEAKER_03]: Electro punch power punch repeat repeat. 01:07:36.570 --> 01:07:37.130 [SPEAKER_03]: Jim teacher. 01:07:37.150 --> 01:07:38.811 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I'm sorry, athletic director. 01:07:39.291 --> 01:07:39.591 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. 01:07:40.811 --> 01:07:41.492 [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, man. 01:07:42.132 --> 01:07:42.792 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, go. 01:07:43.652 --> 01:07:45.733 [SPEAKER_06]: First of all, they this whole. 01:07:46.594 --> 01:07:47.534 [SPEAKER_06]: Don't forget the beer. 01:07:49.345 --> 01:07:57.129 [SPEAKER_06]: I'm sorry, like again, Sheriff Kerry, like, who, wait, what is that? 01:07:57.369 --> 01:07:58.330 [SPEAKER_06]: Don't forget the beer. 01:07:58.890 --> 01:08:06.674 [SPEAKER_06]: Does John, Jr. looks like a person that's going to come to your home and bring you some beer. 01:08:06.974 --> 01:08:10.897 [SPEAKER_06]: I know she's calling back to when they were, when they went to make it. 01:08:10.957 --> 01:08:12.537 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, that's right, yeah, yeah. 01:08:12.598 --> 01:08:13.098 [SPEAKER_06]: I get it. 01:08:13.598 --> 01:08:17.320 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, I get that, but it's just like, because how brought to bear that time? 01:08:17.580 --> 01:08:19.041 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, it's just a deep cut. 01:08:19.321 --> 01:08:21.562 [SPEAKER_06]: It's too much of a deep cut for me, King. 01:08:22.042 --> 01:08:23.503 [SPEAKER_06]: I am not trusting you at all. 01:08:24.103 --> 01:08:25.364 [SPEAKER_06]: And then your son is creepy. 01:08:25.804 --> 01:08:26.385 [SPEAKER_06]: You know what I'm saying? 01:08:26.625 --> 01:08:28.826 [SPEAKER_06]: That's a creepy ass boy you got living in your house. 01:08:29.146 --> 01:08:30.407 [SPEAKER_06]: And it's not even a boy. 01:08:30.507 --> 01:08:31.767 [SPEAKER_06]: That's a grown ass man. 01:08:31.787 --> 01:08:34.849 [SPEAKER_06]: They'll tell me he's a teenager by 17. 01:08:35.129 --> 01:08:36.290 [SPEAKER_06]: That kid is at least 35. 01:08:37.390 --> 01:08:45.558 [SPEAKER_06]: And no, big, I don't like something creepy about him just the way that he was sitting at the table. 01:08:45.638 --> 01:08:48.461 [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, you know, I know Ma, you don't have to tell. 01:08:48.821 --> 01:08:52.985 [SPEAKER_06]: I know about you and we know you know. 01:08:53.005 --> 01:08:59.431 [SPEAKER_06]: I already knew that you knew before you opened your mouth, you just sitting there just like, 01:09:00.152 --> 01:09:02.333 [SPEAKER_06]: Well, he probably deserved it, talking about his father. 01:09:02.934 --> 01:09:03.494 [SPEAKER_06]: Right, right. 01:09:04.334 --> 01:09:06.876 [SPEAKER_03]: That was in the lead scene, but it was funny, though. 01:09:06.896 --> 01:09:08.097 [SPEAKER_03]: He's like, you beat up my dad? 01:09:08.117 --> 01:09:09.517 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he probably. 01:09:09.537 --> 01:09:10.518 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, yeah, sorry about that. 01:09:10.538 --> 01:09:10.698 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 01:09:10.958 --> 01:09:12.999 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, no, no, but it's a delayed response. 01:09:13.020 --> 01:09:16.662 [SPEAKER_03]: It's a delayed thing, because at first, he's like, well, you beat up my dad. 01:09:16.702 --> 01:09:20.724 [SPEAKER_03]: And then later, yeah, when he gives suit, he's like, yeah, it's fine. 01:09:20.764 --> 01:09:21.444 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't worry about it. 01:09:21.464 --> 01:09:22.765 [SPEAKER_03]: He's kind of a jerk anyway, so. 01:09:22.905 --> 01:09:25.367 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I don't trust the people in that house. 01:09:26.414 --> 01:09:34.418 [SPEAKER_06]: And, you know, let me just say one last thing before I give it off, get that you go. 01:09:36.739 --> 01:09:40.481 [SPEAKER_06]: John kicking those dudes' asses. 01:09:41.061 --> 01:09:41.981 [SPEAKER_06]: But that's how it's fine. 01:09:44.422 --> 01:09:52.586 [SPEAKER_06]: I'm telling you, that shit, that is, that is the type of shit that I pay money to go watch. 01:09:56.067 --> 01:10:02.512 [SPEAKER_06]: a hard-earned cash put it down on the table to go watch is black man kick ass like that. 01:10:02.793 --> 01:10:05.835 [SPEAKER_06]: You know, that's what I appreciated that scene. 01:10:06.456 --> 01:10:07.596 [SPEAKER_06]: He broke a sweat. 01:10:08.797 --> 01:10:18.605 [SPEAKER_06]: And the, but the thing about it is guy gardener putting up a green lantern signal in the middle of 01:10:23.268 --> 01:10:29.553 [SPEAKER_06]: my gosh man, read the room, but the point of God is like, I don't care. 01:10:30.213 --> 01:10:32.935 [SPEAKER_06]: I don't care that you blame the green lanterns for this. 01:10:33.976 --> 01:10:35.337 [SPEAKER_06]: I wasn't that green lanterns. 01:10:36.198 --> 01:10:38.119 [SPEAKER_06]: So I don't give a damn what you think. 01:10:38.880 --> 01:10:40.241 [SPEAKER_06]: I'm going to put this here. 01:10:40.561 --> 01:10:43.783 [SPEAKER_06]: Your feelings might be, you know, heard about it. 01:10:43.943 --> 01:10:47.266 [SPEAKER_06]: You might feel the way about it, but one, you can't do anything about it. 01:10:47.566 --> 01:10:47.726 [SPEAKER_06]: That's 01:10:53.007 --> 01:10:53.748 [SPEAKER_06]: get over it. 01:10:54.708 --> 01:11:13.082 [SPEAKER_06]: And that is God-hardener, just unflinchingly, egoist, not even taking for a moment to think about what that would mean to the people in that town to have that thing in front 01:11:20.607 --> 01:11:20.867 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. 01:11:21.607 --> 01:11:28.089 [SPEAKER_03]: He's, he, is he, what movie is he in, that there's more coming. 01:11:28.109 --> 01:11:28.609 [SPEAKER_02]: Superman. 01:11:29.350 --> 01:11:29.570 [SPEAKER_03]: Superman. 01:11:29.590 --> 01:11:29.850 [SPEAKER_03]: Superman. 01:11:30.490 --> 01:11:36.412 [SPEAKER_06]: Well, that's the Superman, the Superman, um, Dave Aquarins said, Superman. 01:11:37.012 --> 01:11:37.252 [SPEAKER_06]: Okay. 01:11:38.255 --> 01:11:43.059 [SPEAKER_03]: That was the one, the first DCU DCU movie. 01:11:43.079 --> 01:11:48.062 [SPEAKER_03]: Is that the one that Alicia did the, the Hopunk thing not like she took some music on that one? 01:11:48.082 --> 01:11:48.863 [SPEAKER_03]: That was the Hopunk. 01:11:48.963 --> 01:11:49.444 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. 01:11:50.164 --> 01:11:56.469 [SPEAKER_03]: I bounce out of the movie, I think somewhere, I don't know somewhere it's very beginning. 01:11:56.529 --> 01:12:02.553 [SPEAKER_03]: I just, I just didn't, you know, Superman has never been my Superman and Batman just were never my jam. 01:12:02.573 --> 01:12:06.036 [SPEAKER_03]: So it's, whatever, what can I say? 01:12:08.177 --> 01:12:09.218 [SPEAKER_03]: Is this the same actor? 01:12:10.059 --> 01:12:10.539 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, yes. 01:12:10.979 --> 01:12:12.981 [SPEAKER_03]: Nathan, I love the continuity. 01:12:13.702 --> 01:12:15.043 [SPEAKER_03]: And the same uniform, the whole thing. 01:12:15.063 --> 01:12:16.784 [SPEAKER_06]: Like it's, everything is the same. 01:12:17.845 --> 01:12:20.067 [SPEAKER_06]: This is the connective tissue of the show. 01:12:20.588 --> 01:12:31.557 [SPEAKER_06]: The same that we are inhabiting the same universes that you are now witnessing across different shows and movies, actually. 01:12:32.157 --> 01:12:36.141 [SPEAKER_03]: And what works is that I didn't finish that movie, 01:12:37.540 --> 01:12:43.161 [SPEAKER_03]: I have no connection to it, and yet I don't feel like I missed out on anything. 01:12:43.201 --> 01:12:46.402 [SPEAKER_03]: They played this straight, and they played this, just played it through. 01:12:46.422 --> 01:12:48.882 [SPEAKER_03]: It's like, oh, okay, but that's Guy Gardner. 01:12:49.382 --> 01:12:49.602 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 01:12:50.222 --> 01:12:50.402 [SPEAKER_03]: Right. 01:12:50.462 --> 01:12:52.283 [SPEAKER_03]: And whether I knew about the movies or not, it doesn't matter. 01:12:52.383 --> 01:12:53.943 [SPEAKER_03]: And I think that's very smart. 01:12:53.983 --> 01:12:59.264 [SPEAKER_03]: You don't have to, you don't have to see all of these other things to understand what's going on in this. 01:12:59.504 --> 01:13:04.365 [SPEAKER_03]: And I think that's a very smart play for this kind of show. 01:13:05.627 --> 01:13:07.528 [SPEAKER_03]: to not turn fans off by this. 01:13:08.409 --> 01:13:10.130 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, you know, I have to go see his movement. 01:13:11.131 --> 01:13:16.195 [SPEAKER_06]: And one last thing I'll say about Sheriff Kerry Kane here. 01:13:16.955 --> 01:13:17.195 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 01:13:17.536 --> 01:13:27.663 [SPEAKER_06]: Why does he have to continually remind us that she's trying to gain the trust of these people in the town? 01:13:28.735 --> 01:13:35.180 [SPEAKER_03]: That's a good right, right, because she says something about it again, like trying to keep people say, right, got a reputation up. 01:13:35.220 --> 01:13:35.580 [SPEAKER_03]: Hold. 01:13:35.600 --> 01:13:36.861 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 01:13:36.941 --> 01:13:38.763 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, she's outside. 01:13:39.123 --> 01:13:40.024 [SPEAKER_06]: How long though? 01:13:40.384 --> 01:13:40.704 [SPEAKER_06]: Mm-hmm. 01:13:41.164 --> 01:13:42.425 [SPEAKER_06]: How long is your outsider? 01:13:43.686 --> 01:13:44.147 [SPEAKER_03]: Follow. 01:13:44.167 --> 01:13:46.909 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, when do you when do you cross that threshold? 01:13:48.050 --> 01:13:49.931 [SPEAKER_06]: But we keep saying it. 01:13:52.090 --> 01:13:52.310 [SPEAKER_03]: Why? 01:13:52.330 --> 01:13:56.192 [SPEAKER_03]: See, you know, the earlier she kept saying, oh, it's not that kind of relationship. 01:13:56.212 --> 01:13:59.915 [SPEAKER_03]: I like my, my, my, my union's ability. 01:13:59.935 --> 01:14:00.975 [SPEAKER_03]: It's not like that. 01:14:01.916 --> 01:14:02.476 [SPEAKER_03]: What does that mean? 01:14:03.997 --> 01:14:04.257 [SPEAKER_03]: Right? 01:14:04.437 --> 01:14:09.320 [SPEAKER_03]: So, yeah, there's some, there's some missing pieces for a share of carry here. 01:14:09.340 --> 01:14:10.661 [SPEAKER_03]: And how can she hack so well? 01:14:10.701 --> 01:14:15.544 [SPEAKER_03]: She was like cracking into NSA databases and stuff, tracking satellite, donor ships. 01:14:16.924 --> 01:14:24.990 [SPEAKER_03]: That's some pretty, I like not your average Midwestern sheriff has that kind of skill set, right? 01:14:25.051 --> 01:14:45.547 [SPEAKER_03]: And she didn't even, like, how did she become share like that that she went from, it makes sense, you know, going from the, the offspring of somebody who was a criminal and was killed by sort of a mob style, you know, I think he was in prison and they took him out because they didn't want him to sing. 01:14:46.945 --> 01:14:47.686 [SPEAKER_03]: So it kind of makes sense. 01:14:47.706 --> 01:14:49.367 [SPEAKER_03]: You swing towards law enforcement and it makes sense. 01:14:49.407 --> 01:14:51.208 [SPEAKER_03]: But like, he's really dead. 01:14:51.268 --> 01:14:51.949 [SPEAKER_06]: He's dead. 01:14:52.729 --> 01:14:53.069 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 01:14:53.089 --> 01:14:54.390 [SPEAKER_06]: So he put it in that position. 01:14:54.590 --> 01:14:56.912 [SPEAKER_03]: She couldn't have had that position without Zoey's back. 01:14:56.952 --> 01:14:57.733 [SPEAKER_03]: He had it so far. 01:14:57.753 --> 01:14:59.474 [SPEAKER_03]: So Zoey put it in that position. 01:14:59.954 --> 01:15:00.134 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 01:15:00.354 --> 01:15:01.335 [SPEAKER_03]: The question is why? 01:15:04.137 --> 01:15:05.438 [SPEAKER_03]: And you buy that. 01:15:05.558 --> 01:15:09.701 [SPEAKER_03]: She's trying to keep John safe by locking him up because that absolutely nice for him. 01:15:10.501 --> 01:15:13.123 [SPEAKER_06]: He should have given him his car keys and told him to go home. 01:15:16.088 --> 01:15:18.389 [SPEAKER_03]: But then what's the purpose of keeping him in jail? 01:15:18.429 --> 01:15:19.409 [SPEAKER_06]: That's other ways. 01:15:19.749 --> 01:15:20.389 [SPEAKER_03]: That's my point. 01:15:21.090 --> 01:15:23.551 [SPEAKER_06]: I'm going to slow him down, slow down investigation. 01:15:23.851 --> 01:15:24.991 [SPEAKER_06]: I'm trying to keep you safe. 01:15:25.891 --> 01:15:28.452 [SPEAKER_06]: Does that mean go home if you want me to be safe? 01:15:29.152 --> 01:15:31.193 [SPEAKER_06]: Nobody from Rush really is coming to Midway City. 01:15:31.213 --> 01:15:31.693 [SPEAKER_06]: Looking for me. 01:15:32.414 --> 01:15:32.634 [SPEAKER_06]: Right. 01:15:34.394 --> 01:15:36.235 [SPEAKER_06]: I did like the graffiti on the beacon, though. 01:15:36.275 --> 01:15:39.096 [SPEAKER_03]: So I mean, little palace and all this stuff on there. 01:15:39.156 --> 01:15:39.756 [SPEAKER_06]: It's pretty funny. 01:15:40.136 --> 01:15:40.896 [SPEAKER_03]: All right, let's move along. 01:15:40.917 --> 01:15:44.458 [SPEAKER_03]: Gardner arrives in a rushville and wakes up John, 01:15:45.555 --> 01:15:52.204 [SPEAKER_03]: who then subtly baits him into getting the ring from O'a, Gardner tells John, that Sinestro got sprung. 01:15:54.370 --> 01:15:57.333 [SPEAKER_03]: Gotta, let's see, let's listen to this audio clip real quick. 01:15:58.093 --> 01:16:00.596 [SPEAKER_05]: I asked him because it was a classic thing to do. 01:16:01.616 --> 01:16:04.139 [SPEAKER_05]: If you had any wisdom to impart in your research to me? 01:16:04.619 --> 01:16:05.160 [SPEAKER_04]: No, it is. 01:16:06.261 --> 01:16:07.001 [SPEAKER_04]: Go climb a rope. 01:16:08.262 --> 01:16:09.443 [SPEAKER_04]: Because you're a gem teacher. 01:16:09.724 --> 01:16:11.245 [SPEAKER_05]: No, because he's a shit fuck. 01:16:11.926 --> 01:16:13.607 [SPEAKER_05]: And I was an athletic director. 01:16:13.947 --> 01:16:14.368 [SPEAKER_05]: Sorry. 01:16:15.629 --> 01:16:20.233 [SPEAKER_04]: Well, guy, athletic director, that shit fuck is dead. 01:16:22.855 --> 01:16:46.183 [SPEAKER_03]: the show is the right to get so funny I have a ledic director so good I like how John also drops the hammer on Gardener here and just straight up says everything you have was 01:16:48.363 --> 01:16:58.087 [SPEAKER_03]: And the only reason you have it is because I didn't take it and that really does I think does a number on gardener said that's why he goes to oh and I think it's the ring. 01:16:58.107 --> 01:17:11.372 [SPEAKER_03]: Like there's something there that he guy is self reflective enough if he was really completely like I don't care about you and you say what you want to say I'm not going to respond to it. 01:17:12.154 --> 01:17:16.900 [SPEAKER_03]: But there's something about that that gets you in under guy's skin. 01:17:17.560 --> 01:17:20.344 [SPEAKER_03]: And he's very sensitive to what people think about him. 01:17:22.146 --> 01:17:27.131 [SPEAKER_03]: So I just really liked that the way that John pressed him like that. 01:17:27.792 --> 01:17:30.075 [SPEAKER_03]: I got another clip here too about the funeral quick. 01:17:31.350 --> 01:17:33.751 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm gonna have a funeral tomorrow afternoon. 01:17:33.931 --> 01:17:35.892 [SPEAKER_04]: Jordan should be buried in his uniform and a break. 01:17:36.872 --> 01:17:37.652 [SPEAKER_04]: That's the other thing. 01:17:38.032 --> 01:17:39.073 [SPEAKER_04]: What's not a thing, Guy? 01:17:39.753 --> 01:17:42.794 [SPEAKER_04]: It's the whole uniform, a break thing. 01:17:42.814 --> 01:17:43.994 [SPEAKER_04]: That's military shit. 01:17:44.074 --> 01:17:44.755 [SPEAKER_04]: I just don't do that. 01:17:44.815 --> 01:17:46.275 [SPEAKER_04]: He's the first lantern from Earth. 01:17:46.295 --> 01:17:47.696 [SPEAKER_04]: We can do whatever the fuck we want. 01:17:48.236 --> 01:17:49.836 [SPEAKER_04]: Before he's doing new reign, right? 01:17:49.876 --> 01:17:51.597 [SPEAKER_04]: That means Jordan's his decommission. 01:17:51.637 --> 01:17:51.957 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 01:17:52.297 --> 01:17:56.619 [SPEAKER_05]: And the Guardians got that shit locked away on- Oh, I can't fly in there and grab a break. 01:17:57.639 --> 01:17:57.799 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh. 01:17:58.879 --> 01:17:59.960 [SPEAKER_04]: Why didn't you just say... 01:18:01.047 --> 01:18:01.727 [SPEAKER_04]: You little nervous. 01:18:01.747 --> 01:18:02.627 [SPEAKER_04]: You're going to get in trouble. 01:18:02.667 --> 01:18:03.067 [SPEAKER_04]: It's okay. 01:18:03.468 --> 01:18:04.028 [SPEAKER_04]: Fuck. 01:18:04.048 --> 01:18:04.628 [SPEAKER_04]: Mother fucker. 01:18:04.648 --> 01:18:05.228 [SPEAKER_04]: You owe me. 01:18:08.809 --> 01:18:11.950 [SPEAKER_03]: He just plays him so perfectly. 01:18:11.970 --> 01:18:15.590 [SPEAKER_03]: And you owe me. 01:18:16.791 --> 01:18:18.051 [SPEAKER_03]: And then he puts the hammer on him. 01:18:18.771 --> 01:18:19.331 [SPEAKER_03]: It's so good. 01:18:20.692 --> 01:18:21.152 [SPEAKER_03]: Anything else? 01:18:21.232 --> 01:18:25.733 [SPEAKER_03]: I've also, there's a wish sound here when he flies away and I'm going to play 01:18:26.947 --> 01:18:31.090 [SPEAKER_03]: I was able to line up the clips of the three woosh sounds, the three times we hear it. 01:18:31.471 --> 01:18:34.012 [SPEAKER_03]: So we'll listen to that tomorrow when we do the feedback episode. 01:18:34.693 --> 01:18:49.443 [SPEAKER_06]: So when he's talking to John and talking about the ring and what, how imparted and all this whole thing, right? 01:18:56.052 --> 01:19:24.660 [SPEAKER_03]: on the cell twice because I had to go today and get the the bush down to whatever and I saw I was watching that scene and he taps it times and I was like you know is there is that a subtle like do I don't think I knows that I don't think he knows that the the trick I think it why why because you don't think how told them what how would never tell him that kind of 01:19:26.502 --> 01:19:29.443 [SPEAKER_03]: And I think, I don't know, I tap my ring on stuff all the time. 01:19:29.584 --> 01:19:32.345 [SPEAKER_03]: I kind of clickety-clack things here and there. 01:19:32.565 --> 01:19:37.267 [SPEAKER_03]: And like, if I'm, when I have my wedding ring and I'm out, and I'm, what do you then deliberately twice? 01:19:39.008 --> 01:19:40.289 [SPEAKER_03]: They showed us twice. 01:19:40.689 --> 01:19:41.069 [SPEAKER_03]: Twice. 01:19:43.810 --> 01:19:44.691 [SPEAKER_03]: So, I don't know. 01:19:45.171 --> 01:19:45.992 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know what that looks like. 01:19:46.012 --> 01:19:46.632 [SPEAKER_02]: That looks epic. 01:19:49.084 --> 01:19:49.845 [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe it was. 01:19:50.505 --> 01:19:57.669 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but they're so good at laying these little bits and pieces, like the watch with John giving it to the girl, like you're like, oh, well, that's what, what is that? 01:19:57.829 --> 01:19:59.150 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, it comes back later. 01:20:01.411 --> 01:20:09.596 [SPEAKER_06]: So because John asked him to go get the ring and the uniform after the tap. 01:20:10.777 --> 01:20:14.719 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, do you think that's what triggered John's memory? 01:20:14.739 --> 01:20:15.160 [SPEAKER_03]: He was like, oh, 01:20:16.854 --> 01:20:17.955 [SPEAKER_03]: Can I get him to do this? 01:20:18.035 --> 01:20:21.377 [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe I have to look at that scene to see in the sequencing of that. 01:20:21.397 --> 01:20:22.618 [SPEAKER_06]: I think it's after the tap. 01:20:23.238 --> 01:20:28.922 [SPEAKER_03]: OK. OK, that's interesting. 01:20:30.964 --> 01:20:33.506 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, we'll see if anything. 01:20:33.526 --> 01:20:39.590 [SPEAKER_03]: Because I don't think guy, I don't think how would ever tell guy that. 01:20:39.990 --> 01:20:42.692 [SPEAKER_03]: I just don't see him giving him that kind of insider information. 01:20:43.644 --> 01:20:50.971 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, and it's a different ring so is it gonna work on his on guys ring because that's a different ring. 01:20:51.031 --> 01:20:52.752 [SPEAKER_03]: It's a different ring. 01:20:52.772 --> 01:20:53.993 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, it may not. 01:20:54.774 --> 01:20:55.635 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean house. 01:20:56.315 --> 01:21:00.039 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think house ring was house ring. 01:21:00.699 --> 01:21:09.287 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, it may it may be happen since it may be, you know, something to jar John Jr's memory, but I just found it like, oh, okay. 01:21:10.890 --> 01:21:12.611 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, no, it definitely triggered me though. 01:21:12.631 --> 01:21:17.892 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I was I was with I'm with you on that All right as John leaves the jail. 01:21:18.112 --> 01:21:19.272 [SPEAKER_03]: He checks his messages. 01:21:19.412 --> 01:21:24.193 [SPEAKER_03]: He speaks with his brother Aaron to pick up their father back at House. 01:21:24.233 --> 01:21:36.256 [SPEAKER_03]: He has coffee with Maggie who is keen on watches and then they're interrupted by Noah who's bringing John a slightly ill-fitting shoot a to where to the lightning roll 01:21:40.567 --> 01:21:42.970 [SPEAKER_06]: That was not a well-fitting suit at all. 01:21:43.931 --> 01:21:49.618 [SPEAKER_03]: Not when we just saw him in that gray turtleneck earlier. 01:21:49.638 --> 01:21:51.200 [SPEAKER_03]: My man was like, good. 01:21:51.280 --> 01:21:53.162 [SPEAKER_03]: I was like, oh, that's a fit. 01:21:54.135 --> 01:21:57.117 [SPEAKER_03]: And then he gets into that suit, no. 01:21:58.578 --> 01:21:59.738 [SPEAKER_06]: But in his father's suit. 01:22:00.839 --> 01:22:03.921 [SPEAKER_03]: Basically, yeah, that's why he picked measurements. 01:22:03.981 --> 01:22:04.861 [SPEAKER_06]: I checked the measurements. 01:22:05.462 --> 01:22:06.822 [SPEAKER_06]: How you know my measurements, bro? 01:22:07.463 --> 01:22:07.863 [SPEAKER_06]: Right. 01:22:08.063 --> 01:22:09.404 [SPEAKER_06]: No John Jr.'s measurements. 01:22:09.904 --> 01:22:11.585 [SPEAKER_06]: What is going on with this Noah kid? 01:22:11.785 --> 01:22:12.486 [SPEAKER_06]: What's happening here? 01:22:13.266 --> 01:22:17.709 [SPEAKER_03]: And then tell me drives by and they're like trying to get Noah to say like who's he's going to pick? 01:22:17.729 --> 01:22:20.150 [SPEAKER_03]: Because he's this town star, right? 01:22:20.170 --> 01:22:22.172 [SPEAKER_03]: There's a lot of pride and reputation. 01:22:24.069 --> 01:22:27.811 [SPEAKER_03]: from rush fill that's invested into this kid because he can throw. 01:22:27.891 --> 01:22:49.707 [SPEAKER_03]: Of course, John is part of Noah's journey in terms of giving him that little piece of advice to help him, you know, you know, that's, I mean, you know, no, I'll put in the work, but John did give him that one tiny little piece of advice way back when that, you know, has a part of his journey, has a part of his journey. 01:22:51.322 --> 01:22:52.222 [SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, a little town's like this. 01:22:52.282 --> 01:22:57.404 [SPEAKER_03]: It's a big deal when somebody gets a big ride and is looking like they'll be a big star. 01:22:57.844 --> 01:23:11.709 [SPEAKER_03]: So I was interested that Maggie uses the word reparations because she's a racist because 01:23:14.973 --> 01:23:28.924 [SPEAKER_03]: Because we're not a political podcast, we're an entertainment podcast, but that is a word that elicits a lot of strong reactions and emotions if you bring it up in a modern political context. 01:23:29.024 --> 01:23:31.506 [SPEAKER_03]: And so it's interesting that the writers chose that word. 01:23:31.987 --> 01:23:34.088 [SPEAKER_03]: It wasn't like you owe me or that's 01:23:43.245 --> 01:23:43.425 [SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm. 01:23:44.066 --> 01:23:44.926 [SPEAKER_03]: No, that's fine. 01:23:46.107 --> 01:23:46.747 [SPEAKER_03]: It is part. 01:23:47.688 --> 01:23:49.029 [SPEAKER_03]: 3, 1, 4. 01:23:49.909 --> 01:23:50.410 [SPEAKER_03]: Dammit. 01:23:50.930 --> 01:23:53.131 [SPEAKER_03]: Somebody was saying something on the discord. 01:23:53.191 --> 01:23:54.372 [SPEAKER_03]: Who was it the other day? 01:23:54.392 --> 01:23:55.653 [SPEAKER_03]: It was a banana. 01:23:55.733 --> 01:23:56.814 [SPEAKER_03]: I think it was banana. 01:23:56.834 --> 01:24:00.256 [SPEAKER_03]: It was like, oh, I want that dollar amount itemized. 01:24:00.336 --> 01:24:01.296 [SPEAKER_03]: It's so specific. 01:24:01.356 --> 01:24:05.239 [SPEAKER_03]: And then Zatouichi said, it's the first few digits of pie, I think. 01:24:06.580 --> 01:24:10.742 [SPEAKER_03]: OK. Hi, did you just... 3, 1, 4. 01:24:11.323 --> 01:24:11.543 [SPEAKER_03]: Yep. 01:24:13.110 --> 01:24:23.514 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, one five night, so it's a little off after the three one four, but yeah, three one four five. 01:24:23.994 --> 01:24:25.474 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, what are you doing? 01:24:25.494 --> 01:24:25.914 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, right? 01:24:25.954 --> 01:24:26.175 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 01:24:28.195 --> 01:24:28.515 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. 01:24:28.535 --> 01:24:31.576 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, like, is that the writer's just being 01:24:42.557 --> 01:24:43.598 [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, right. 01:24:43.678 --> 01:24:45.039 [SPEAKER_03]: And then his brother, Aaron. 01:24:48.601 --> 01:24:53.583 [SPEAKER_03]: He and his brother Aaron chosen like he keeps calling, you know, he's, they keep both poking at him. 01:24:53.643 --> 01:25:01.407 [SPEAKER_03]: Marcus says it was a less of a sting to it, but Aaron was definitely putting some spin on it. 01:25:02.408 --> 01:25:04.629 [SPEAKER_03]: And then how has to bite his tongue a little bit? 01:25:04.649 --> 01:25:06.410 [SPEAKER_03]: Because he starts off to say, 01:25:08.397 --> 01:25:20.445 [SPEAKER_03]: the end word to call him his brother that and I was like, oh, that's like, again, from a writing standpoint, the writers are, this is a very grounded, like this is, this seems very real to me. 01:25:20.985 --> 01:25:24.928 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm telling you, son, as a black man, yes. 01:25:25.984 --> 01:25:27.205 [SPEAKER_06]: that shit happens every day. 01:25:28.225 --> 01:25:28.485 [SPEAKER_06]: Right. 01:25:29.946 --> 01:25:31.147 [SPEAKER_06]: I'm going to fall with friends. 01:25:31.167 --> 01:25:32.527 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 01:25:32.707 --> 01:25:32.907 [SPEAKER_06]: Right. 01:25:32.947 --> 01:25:33.228 [SPEAKER_06]: Y'all. 01:25:34.008 --> 01:25:34.268 [SPEAKER_06]: Hey. 01:25:35.269 --> 01:25:35.769 [SPEAKER_06]: Y'all. 01:25:37.009 --> 01:25:37.570 [SPEAKER_06]: Please. 01:25:39.090 --> 01:25:39.311 [SPEAKER_06]: Right. 01:25:39.711 --> 01:25:41.672 [SPEAKER_06]: But there's a worry that comes out before that, please. 01:25:41.732 --> 01:25:43.893 [SPEAKER_06]: I'm just, there's no, these are the facts. 01:25:44.513 --> 01:25:51.957 [SPEAKER_06]: So it was very true to, like, I felt like, wow, they get it. 01:25:52.616 --> 01:25:52.836 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 01:25:52.876 --> 01:26:04.884 [SPEAKER_06]: They get it and they're using it and they're using it in ways that are not, you know, it's just, I don't know. 01:26:06.024 --> 01:26:16.651 [SPEAKER_06]: It's just so well done and into woven into the concept of the show, that when you see it and you say they get it, it's like, why can't more people get it? 01:26:20.759 --> 01:26:33.926 [SPEAKER_03]: More shows where the writing is just sort of real like we don't have to dance around it or lean into it like this is just a very We yet it just it's refreshing because it's so normal. 01:26:34.686 --> 01:26:37.208 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know that like a good thing or a bad thing. 01:26:37.808 --> 01:26:38.108 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know. 01:26:38.148 --> 01:26:40.029 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know how to how to how to parse this. 01:26:40.529 --> 01:26:43.251 [SPEAKER_03]: It's just like, oh, thank God these writers are 01:26:45.358 --> 01:26:51.303 [SPEAKER_03]: smart and playing this the way that they're playing it because it shows us that it can be done. 01:26:52.103 --> 01:26:53.524 [SPEAKER_03]: You don't have to be weird about it. 01:26:53.905 --> 01:26:57.568 [SPEAKER_03]: You don't have to get all like weird one layer the other about it. 01:26:57.628 --> 01:27:00.470 [SPEAKER_03]: You can just these are the stories. 01:27:00.490 --> 01:27:01.551 [SPEAKER_03]: This is how people talk. 01:27:02.211 --> 01:27:02.992 [SPEAKER_03]: Lay it out that way. 01:27:04.723 --> 01:27:18.426 [SPEAKER_06]: And I think it's just not gratuitous, it's just not, no, you know, not Tarantino, right, you know, saying, don't want not words because he feels like his edgy and cool and catch a do that. 01:27:18.486 --> 01:27:27.668 [SPEAKER_06]: No, you don't bro, that's number one, you know, what may have seen edgy and cool when you were 19 because you didn't know any better. 01:27:28.408 --> 01:27:50.060 [SPEAKER_06]: You know, as a middle age senior citizen type of person is now is, you know, like crazy, you know, to still be pulling on that same, you know, thread, right, and this is not that no, this is just very again grounded and 01:27:51.490 --> 01:28:11.600 [SPEAKER_03]: I can even the way that he bit the word off in the middle of his frustration, because he tried to not lose his cool, yeah, that felt very, you know, I wouldn't call my brother that obviously I don't have to context for that, but there have been times with, you know, family members where I've had to like, 01:28:13.476 --> 01:28:22.037 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, you want to say something to me and you know it's not going to add to the situation you know it's actually going to push the situation in a bad direction. 01:28:24.167 --> 01:28:27.368 [SPEAKER_06]: So I think this was written by not thing. 01:28:27.508 --> 01:28:29.089 [SPEAKER_06]: It was Justin Brick Gibson. 01:28:29.649 --> 01:28:31.310 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, the one who wrote, yes. 01:28:31.330 --> 01:28:32.250 [SPEAKER_03]: What I think to me, yeah. 01:28:32.410 --> 01:28:36.292 [SPEAKER_06]: And along with Lindorf, I believe as well. 01:28:36.752 --> 01:28:37.012 [SPEAKER_06]: OK. 01:28:37.752 --> 01:28:42.334 [SPEAKER_06]: Contributed to this script for this episode. 01:28:42.974 --> 01:28:45.175 [SPEAKER_06]: So just really well done. 01:28:46.375 --> 01:28:46.715 [SPEAKER_03]: All right. 01:28:47.036 --> 01:28:48.116 [SPEAKER_03]: I think these are our final scene. 01:28:48.416 --> 01:28:51.617 [SPEAKER_03]: Gardener brings house ring 01:28:54.512 --> 01:28:56.593 [SPEAKER_03]: He, uh, John then speaks with Marcus. 01:28:57.533 --> 01:28:57.833 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, right. 01:28:57.853 --> 01:29:00.294 [SPEAKER_03]: So then we have the, wait, oh, I got my notes are out of the way. 01:29:00.314 --> 01:29:00.754 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, you know what? 01:29:00.774 --> 01:29:02.315 [SPEAKER_03]: I missed a scene in this anyway. 01:29:02.875 --> 01:29:03.815 [SPEAKER_03]: We got the funeral. 01:29:05.056 --> 01:29:06.316 [SPEAKER_03]: And, uh, no, here it is. 01:29:06.336 --> 01:29:07.957 [SPEAKER_03]: He speaks with Marcus and then Carol Ferris. 01:29:07.977 --> 01:29:11.438 [SPEAKER_03]: Sorry, uh, who asked John to read the Eulish. 01:29:11.498 --> 01:29:13.059 [SPEAKER_03]: He written by Hal himself. 01:29:14.214 --> 01:29:27.784 [SPEAKER_03]: John attempts to close the later, John attempts to close the deal by phone, but the kernel is an interested, and John Jr. digs up Hal's body, gets the ring, and activates the hologram. 01:29:29.225 --> 01:29:32.367 [SPEAKER_03]: Can you tell us a little bit about Carol Ferris? 01:29:33.473 --> 01:29:44.181 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, so the long history in the Green Lantern comic, she is how Jordan Maine, I would say, love interest in the comics. 01:29:44.281 --> 01:29:52.567 [SPEAKER_06]: She owns a Ferris Industries, where how Jordan was a pilot, they have on and off relationship. 01:29:53.407 --> 01:30:06.795 [SPEAKER_06]: You know, in the comics for many, many years, and at one point, she also obtains the power of one of the spectrum's love, and she becomes a hold of of a ring as well. 01:30:06.815 --> 01:30:10.277 [SPEAKER_06]: I think it's the Violet Ring, if I remember. 01:30:21.522 --> 01:30:45.367 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I was right, you know, like if you didn't know, if you didn't know the name drop, it was just like, who was this person, but if you knew the name drop, you're like, oh, shit, like me, I was like, oh, I'm so cool to incorporate that history into this show because they've been for those and for those who don't know, like me, I was like, oh, well, obviously this is a person who had a relationship with how. 01:30:46.551 --> 01:30:52.314 [SPEAKER_03]: and she's working this executive sort of fashion for his estate as well, whatever. 01:30:52.815 --> 01:30:53.495 [SPEAKER_03]: So it made sense. 01:30:53.735 --> 01:30:57.057 [SPEAKER_03]: Again, you know, I'm that double layer situation they did. 01:30:57.897 --> 01:31:14.967 [SPEAKER_03]: Also, a gardener says that if he got in trouble with the guardians, he'd be on the first beam to the phantomsone, what's a beam and what's the phantomsone? 01:31:15.952 --> 01:31:20.599 [SPEAKER_06]: That's where the Kryptonians sent their criminals. 01:31:21.320 --> 01:31:21.600 [SPEAKER_06]: OK. 01:31:22.541 --> 01:31:28.230 [SPEAKER_06]: So that is a direct call to Superman and Superman lore. 01:31:29.998 --> 01:31:33.801 [SPEAKER_06]: from the movie that we had just from Superman period. 01:31:34.081 --> 01:31:35.422 [SPEAKER_03]: Period, in general, okay, got it. 01:31:35.482 --> 01:31:35.702 [SPEAKER_03]: Right. 01:31:36.042 --> 01:31:40.225 [SPEAKER_06]: Do you remember this first Superman, the Christopher Reeves Superman movie? 01:31:40.265 --> 01:31:40.506 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 01:31:40.706 --> 01:31:41.406 [SPEAKER_06]: We're died. 01:31:42.007 --> 01:31:42.207 [SPEAKER_06]: Mm-hmm. 01:31:42.327 --> 01:31:42.547 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 01:31:42.827 --> 01:31:44.869 [SPEAKER_06]: And the break-out is the mirror universe. 01:31:44.889 --> 01:31:45.649 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah. 01:31:46.009 --> 01:31:46.890 [SPEAKER_03]: That's the Phantom Zone. 01:31:47.370 --> 01:31:47.611 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. 01:31:48.171 --> 01:31:48.972 [SPEAKER_03]: What a broke out of. 01:31:49.592 --> 01:31:50.433 [SPEAKER_03]: Got it, okay, cool. 01:31:50.613 --> 01:31:51.353 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, that makes sense. 01:31:51.673 --> 01:31:55.796 [SPEAKER_03]: And what's a beam, like I don't know, they just stick you in a... Yeah, it's like a... Five rocks thing. 01:31:56.912 --> 01:32:01.636 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, basically, basically, you sort of beam you there, you got it. 01:32:01.796 --> 01:32:03.737 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, cool. 01:32:05.999 --> 01:32:14.064 [SPEAKER_03]: Of course, how wrote his own eulogy, which when there's only three people there, I know. 01:32:14.925 --> 01:32:19.528 [SPEAKER_06]: It really, it's so much more matter of me. 01:32:19.588 --> 01:32:21.110 [SPEAKER_06]: He really wanted so much more. 01:32:21.690 --> 01:32:22.651 [SPEAKER_06]: He wanted so much more. 01:32:23.370 --> 01:32:28.233 [SPEAKER_03]: But then he drops that line, would you reference earlier, which is, yes. 01:32:28.753 --> 01:32:29.554 [SPEAKER_03]: Can you do remember it? 01:32:29.574 --> 01:32:32.455 [SPEAKER_03]: It was like all a long time ago now that I remember it. 01:32:32.555 --> 01:32:33.916 [SPEAKER_03]: It was, oh, though. 01:32:33.936 --> 01:32:35.137 [SPEAKER_03]: I hope I may be or something. 01:32:35.457 --> 01:32:35.797 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 01:32:36.658 --> 01:32:40.480 [SPEAKER_06]: It was maybe it was easier to fly, than to stay on the ground. 01:32:41.160 --> 01:32:42.261 [SPEAKER_06]: I hope I mattered. 01:32:42.961 --> 01:32:47.764 [SPEAKER_06]: And that was the end of the eulogy, that was his final words. 01:32:47.964 --> 01:32:49.145 [SPEAKER_06]: Those were his final words. 01:32:50.423 --> 01:33:01.054 [SPEAKER_06]: And that really, you know, that's somehow, you know, that's how when you have Cairo saying to John Jr., you know, he must have really liked you. 01:33:02.074 --> 01:33:03.336 [SPEAKER_06]: And I bet he never told you. 01:33:04.377 --> 01:33:06.038 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we talked about that earlier. 01:33:06.619 --> 01:33:06.879 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 01:33:07.039 --> 01:33:09.021 [SPEAKER_06]: How, yeah, the impact of that. 01:33:09.562 --> 01:33:12.184 [SPEAKER_06]: But then you, you hear him in his own words. 01:33:13.069 --> 01:33:20.513 [SPEAKER_06]: say that, you know, it was easier for me to be up in the skies, you know, than to make connections where people. 01:33:22.475 --> 01:33:28.038 [SPEAKER_06]: And then he just hopes that in the end that people cared that he cared. 01:33:28.058 --> 01:33:29.639 [SPEAKER_03]: You know? 01:33:30.479 --> 01:33:34.962 [SPEAKER_03]: It's an interesting contrast with John Stewart then because John Stewart 01:33:41.285 --> 01:33:46.407 [SPEAKER_03]: has this life of preparation, borderline, child abuse, right? 01:33:46.427 --> 01:33:50.069 [SPEAKER_03]: Like I think we can get kind of all agree on on the craziness of this family. 01:33:50.969 --> 01:33:54.450 [SPEAKER_03]: But, you know, he excels, and he's worthy of the ring. 01:33:55.991 --> 01:33:57.652 [SPEAKER_03]: He chooses not to take the ring. 01:33:57.712 --> 01:34:03.014 [SPEAKER_03]: He goes on then to have another life as an architect builds 01:34:07.120 --> 01:34:09.282 [SPEAKER_03]: And seems quite wealthy. 01:34:09.322 --> 01:34:14.005 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure he'd be more than able to pay the reparations of $314,000. 01:34:14.725 --> 01:34:17.868 [SPEAKER_06]: John ain't paying no damn reparations. 01:34:17.888 --> 01:34:19.249 [SPEAKER_03]: No, I'm not saying he is. 01:34:19.309 --> 01:34:20.490 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm just saying he's good. 01:34:20.510 --> 01:34:21.390 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm saying. 01:34:21.470 --> 01:34:21.850 [SPEAKER_03]: Good. 01:34:22.131 --> 01:34:23.472 [SPEAKER_03]: He's got the cash. 01:34:23.732 --> 01:34:25.213 [SPEAKER_03]: He's like, that's easy for him. 01:34:25.373 --> 01:34:27.194 [SPEAKER_03]: America has the cash. 01:34:27.254 --> 01:34:29.936 [SPEAKER_06]: He's still no reparations. 01:34:29.996 --> 01:34:31.797 [SPEAKER_06]: John ain't paying no reparations. 01:34:31.878 --> 01:34:33.299 [SPEAKER_06]: And John pays reparations. 01:34:33.639 --> 01:34:34.840 [SPEAKER_06]: No, nobody's saying that. 01:34:34.900 --> 01:34:35.980 [SPEAKER_03]: Nobody's saying that. 01:34:38.120 --> 01:34:40.901 [SPEAKER_03]: He's he's he's liquid like that though. 01:34:41.462 --> 01:34:45.883 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, yes, no Now you got me out of my point. 01:34:45.923 --> 01:34:47.144 [SPEAKER_03]: What was that? 01:34:50.485 --> 01:35:04.912 [SPEAKER_03]: The idea that oh, yeah, he's lived this other life and So when I assume In the course of things he eventually becomes the green lantern 01:35:06.237 --> 01:35:18.028 [SPEAKER_03]: He will have lived this full and complex life of complex family relationships, having to be cliche, loved and lost, right? 01:35:18.048 --> 01:35:22.451 [SPEAKER_03]: To have friends, to have goals and aspirations that are 01:35:24.229 --> 01:35:31.374 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not using the word mundane in the sense of small, just mundane in that they're what we all have. 01:35:31.554 --> 01:35:42.963 [SPEAKER_03]: We all want to build the lives for ourselves to find self-expression, to find fulfillment in the work that we chew, whatever work that we end up doing, to find meaning and connection in that. 01:35:43.823 --> 01:35:48.187 [SPEAKER_03]: Whereas how went from crazy test pilots to the green lantern, 01:35:53.292 --> 01:35:57.055 [SPEAKER_03]: And he didn't get to have a fullness of it. 01:35:57.195 --> 01:36:06.841 [SPEAKER_03]: And then it was always within the bubble of the green lantern, which is the more people get close to power, the more that their lives are in danger. 01:36:08.503 --> 01:36:13.806 [SPEAKER_03]: The more dangerous it is for somebody to love me, and I'm guessing Carol had the wear with all. 01:36:14.207 --> 01:36:16.308 [SPEAKER_03]: Obviously she became some sort of ring bearer in the future. 01:36:22.248 --> 01:36:27.551 [SPEAKER_03]: and understand the pressures of what that role of being a Green Lantern means. 01:36:27.571 --> 01:36:29.592 [SPEAKER_03]: And then you're the only Green Lantern on Earth. 01:36:30.332 --> 01:36:32.593 [SPEAKER_03]: So there's no role models or nobody else you can hang out with. 01:36:32.613 --> 01:36:35.495 [SPEAKER_03]: There's no other human beings that you could talk nuances with. 01:36:36.696 --> 01:36:40.598 [SPEAKER_03]: All the other Green Lanterns are various aliens of some kind. 01:36:40.638 --> 01:36:45.560 [SPEAKER_03]: So their responses to things are going to be very different. 01:36:45.580 --> 01:36:48.722 [SPEAKER_03]: So you know, define somebody that you could actually really connect with. 01:36:50.832 --> 01:36:53.913 [SPEAKER_03]: So it's kind of telling that how, it's interesting that how's a loan. 01:36:55.353 --> 01:36:59.134 [SPEAKER_03]: But then I think he's also speaking to John from the grave in some way. 01:37:00.115 --> 01:37:00.375 [SPEAKER_03]: Why? 01:37:00.395 --> 01:37:06.697 [SPEAKER_03]: Because John wants to matter as well. 01:37:08.337 --> 01:37:13.159 [SPEAKER_03]: Not in the sense of an ego, like I want to make a difference in people's lives. 01:37:13.199 --> 01:37:14.599 [SPEAKER_03]: Why is he building the arcs? 01:37:15.159 --> 01:37:17.480 [SPEAKER_03]: He wants to make a difference in the lives of other people. 01:37:21.707 --> 01:37:27.150 [SPEAKER_03]: And it's on level, he and how are connected. 01:37:28.631 --> 01:37:34.534 [SPEAKER_03]: There is a vitality in the relationship film that or how abusive it is on the surface. 01:37:34.574 --> 01:37:37.075 [SPEAKER_03]: There's something that binds them both. 01:37:39.076 --> 01:37:48.461 [SPEAKER_03]: And I think some of the words of his eulogy were not intended for John, but that John was there to not only read them. 01:37:50.698 --> 01:37:56.710 [SPEAKER_03]: But to hear them, and I think from here on, like John's going to double down. 01:38:01.498 --> 01:38:05.620 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, because then, Marcus is, you know, I already played the clip. 01:38:05.640 --> 01:38:11.603 [SPEAKER_03]: I can play it again really quick, since we're sort of, you and I, at least, you and hire so far from when I played the movie. 01:38:11.923 --> 01:38:20.948 [SPEAKER_09]: I, I, I, what about we, or is that what you're just saying to pitch to make good for everything you got and I didn't, hey, may I listen, please, I'm not going to go home. 01:38:22.048 --> 01:38:22.808 [SPEAKER_08]: You never came home. 01:38:23.509 --> 01:38:27.631 [SPEAKER_08]: You've been stuck in a rush, Bill, for 10 years, and you ain't leaving until you finish whatever the hell it is. 01:38:27.691 --> 01:38:29.912 [SPEAKER_08]: You and how much the fucking Jordan started out there. 01:38:30.910 --> 01:38:33.631 [SPEAKER_08]: I just pray it don't kill you, like it killed him. 01:38:37.112 --> 01:38:38.892 [SPEAKER_03]: Marcus speaking some truths to power there. 01:38:39.972 --> 01:38:41.093 [SPEAKER_03]: You never came home. 01:38:42.953 --> 01:38:45.254 [SPEAKER_06]: You've turned the ring down, but you're all in your heart. 01:38:45.274 --> 01:38:46.194 [SPEAKER_06]: You never let it go. 01:38:47.575 --> 01:38:50.755 [SPEAKER_06]: Not even you turned it down, but you got to finish whatever you started. 01:38:51.676 --> 01:38:53.816 [SPEAKER_06]: Because turning it down didn't finish it. 01:38:55.097 --> 01:38:55.297 [SPEAKER_06]: Right. 01:38:56.477 --> 01:39:00.378 [SPEAKER_06]: Okay, turning it down didn't finish it because it's about more than just the ring. 01:39:01.840 --> 01:39:07.525 [SPEAKER_06]: It's about you, it's about how Jordan's, about Bernadette, it's more than just the ring. 01:39:08.046 --> 01:39:08.526 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 01:39:08.727 --> 01:39:18.516 [SPEAKER_06]: You're still embroiled in this story and you can't really start yet next chapter until you close this one. 01:39:20.217 --> 01:39:22.780 [SPEAKER_03]: And his next chapter is actually becoming the Green Lantern. 01:39:23.480 --> 01:39:23.741 [SPEAKER_03]: That's. 01:39:25.242 --> 01:39:31.304 [SPEAKER_03]: Because I think what that this we've talked about this before, but what this television show is about is John's origin story. 01:39:31.364 --> 01:39:32.425 [SPEAKER_03]: Origin story, yeah. 01:39:32.545 --> 01:39:32.745 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 01:39:33.345 --> 01:39:33.525 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 01:39:34.785 --> 01:39:40.267 [SPEAKER_03]: And hopefully, we'll get some more Aaron Pierre as the Greenland turn in Andrew shows. 01:39:41.128 --> 01:39:45.349 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, they're already talking about a movie, so I'm there. 01:39:45.929 --> 01:39:50.111 [SPEAKER_03]: Whatever, you know, I'll put people there and Pierre on a screen and I will watch it. 01:39:50.231 --> 01:39:51.291 [SPEAKER_03]: That's all I'm saying. 01:39:51.971 --> 01:39:53.572 [SPEAKER_03]: That is all I am saying. 01:39:55.607 --> 01:40:19.320 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, anything else for us now I'm you know, yeah, this this was just a really good episode of delving into these characters and it's just such a a great way to move the story forward you know, last week we left it off in an episode five 01:40:20.398 --> 01:40:26.222 [SPEAKER_06]: 2016, that could have been a cliffhanger of an episode for a season two. 01:40:27.223 --> 01:40:27.523 [SPEAKER_06]: You know? 01:40:28.724 --> 01:40:35.128 [SPEAKER_06]: And that they are not pushing the story forward in this way was really, really well done. 01:40:35.589 --> 01:40:36.209 [SPEAKER_06]: So yeah. 01:40:38.742 --> 01:40:42.263 [SPEAKER_03]: So you and I are gonna reconnect tomorrow. 01:40:42.283 --> 01:40:44.784 [SPEAKER_03]: We're gonna go over the feedback. 01:40:44.804 --> 01:40:47.044 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm gonna try and get this podcast out ASAP. 01:40:47.064 --> 01:40:52.766 [SPEAKER_03]: So that's gonna be a short window for folks to get any additional feedback in if they want. 01:40:52.826 --> 01:40:53.846 [SPEAKER_03]: But you got a window. 01:40:54.546 --> 01:40:57.147 [SPEAKER_03]: You definitely have a window because I'm gonna have this out in a little bit. 01:40:57.207 --> 01:41:06.130 [SPEAKER_03]: So if you listen to this tonight, and you got some time tomorrow, send us a quick email, comics versus at thelorhounds.com. 01:41:08.421 --> 01:41:12.182 [SPEAKER_03]: Sometimes people are sending us some stuff on Spotify or through the Patreon. 01:41:12.222 --> 01:41:18.884 [SPEAKER_03]: I know definitely one user who's using the Patreon message a bunch because something is wrong with it. 01:41:18.904 --> 01:41:19.144 [SPEAKER_03]: Whatever. 01:41:19.184 --> 01:41:19.544 [SPEAKER_03]: Just matter. 01:41:19.564 --> 01:41:20.465 [SPEAKER_03]: You can get us to that way. 01:41:20.745 --> 01:41:22.805 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not really scanning the discord for that. 01:41:23.205 --> 01:41:26.787 [SPEAKER_03]: We usually have Nancy helps with that because it's hard to pull messages sometimes out. 01:41:26.827 --> 01:41:27.107 [SPEAKER_03]: Right. 01:41:27.387 --> 01:41:27.607 [SPEAKER_03]: Right. 01:41:28.607 --> 01:41:30.730 [SPEAKER_03]: But there is a lot of good chatter going down. 01:41:31.331 --> 01:41:33.434 [SPEAKER_03]: Marilyn is catching up on the... 01:41:33.494 --> 01:41:34.696 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, she is. 01:41:34.956 --> 01:41:35.817 [SPEAKER_03]: She's having amazing. 01:41:36.398 --> 01:41:37.159 [SPEAKER_03]: Some comments. 01:41:37.820 --> 01:41:39.763 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm glad that she's enjoying the show. 01:41:39.783 --> 01:41:45.410 [SPEAKER_03]: And so yeah, the discord is a great place to have conversations. 01:41:46.894 --> 01:41:47.975 [SPEAKER_03]: What else we got going on? 01:41:48.995 --> 01:41:52.678 [SPEAKER_03]: You and Alicia are getting ready for your vision. 01:41:52.778 --> 01:41:55.559 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, not for vision quest, yes. 01:41:56.020 --> 01:41:58.021 [SPEAKER_06]: Until before things, the first episode drops. 01:41:58.041 --> 01:41:58.922 [SPEAKER_06]: So, okay. 01:41:59.062 --> 01:41:59.282 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 01:41:59.962 --> 01:42:02.444 [SPEAKER_06]: Do we have a pod in you, in your ear drums? 01:42:03.920 --> 01:42:05.060 [SPEAKER_06]: really soon after that. 01:42:05.120 --> 01:42:05.421 [SPEAKER_06]: So. 01:42:05.521 --> 01:42:05.801 [SPEAKER_06]: Right. 01:42:05.921 --> 01:42:08.342 [SPEAKER_03]: And then we're going to probably going to do weekly coverage on that. 01:42:08.822 --> 01:42:09.082 [SPEAKER_03]: Sweet. 01:42:09.202 --> 01:42:09.382 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 01:42:09.482 --> 01:42:18.025 [SPEAKER_03]: And I think I'm so glad that Marvel's, you know, has green lit that and then we actually get a conclusion to that three part story like that. 01:42:18.145 --> 01:42:18.325 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 01:42:18.765 --> 01:42:19.005 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 01:42:19.105 --> 01:42:19.745 [SPEAKER_03]: That is significant. 01:42:19.765 --> 01:42:23.867 [SPEAKER_03]: That's like kind of a really important thing because he and all the way that they're playing silly buggers with them. 01:42:25.020 --> 01:42:30.964 [SPEAKER_03]: of follow-up seasons is like really I'm really surprised that they cut the cut the check for that one. 01:42:31.004 --> 01:42:33.346 [SPEAKER_03]: So but I don't know that makes me happy. 01:42:33.386 --> 01:42:34.347 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm very excited for it. 01:42:35.147 --> 01:42:38.430 [SPEAKER_06]: We also got to be doing the Clayface movie. 01:42:38.730 --> 01:42:39.210 [SPEAKER_06]: What? 01:42:39.450 --> 01:42:41.992 [SPEAKER_06]: Clayface is a Batman villain. 01:42:42.853 --> 01:42:44.514 [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, okay. 01:42:44.554 --> 01:42:45.395 [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, don't add me. 01:42:45.675 --> 01:42:46.075 [SPEAKER_03]: Don't add me. 01:42:46.095 --> 01:42:47.116 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not a DC person. 01:42:47.136 --> 01:42:50.999 [SPEAKER_03]: I just I just have it's not it's not a condemnation of DC. 01:42:51.079 --> 01:42:52.140 [SPEAKER_03]: It was just never my thing. 01:42:52.860 --> 01:42:54.961 [SPEAKER_03]: I think that'll start to lack good Star Wars. 01:42:55.481 --> 01:42:58.602 [SPEAKER_06]: It's the 23rd and it's Hara. 01:42:59.203 --> 01:43:02.824 [SPEAKER_06]: So it's in the home for Halloween to be there. 01:43:02.984 --> 01:43:05.465 [SPEAKER_06]: So we'll be covering that Alicia and I as well. 01:43:05.625 --> 01:43:06.105 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, cool. 01:43:06.406 --> 01:43:10.947 [SPEAKER_03]: And I know Alicia's working on getting the last of the silo coverage done. 01:43:11.067 --> 01:43:13.668 [SPEAKER_03]: She's been hammering tongs at that. 01:43:14.589 --> 01:43:17.170 [SPEAKER_03]: Stay listening to will shift dust. 01:43:18.620 --> 01:43:36.900 [SPEAKER_03]: especially if you're catching up on the season because season layman finally it's like oh okay episode four episode five like oh no I'm interested and she's got a big yeah there's a big episode coming in the pipeline I was spoiler her her her surprise but um it's gonna be it's very cool I was very excited for her when it came through 01:43:37.840 --> 01:43:52.608 [SPEAKER_03]: Nicole and Mark just started their season three series of never mind the music and they have Britney Spears I think I talked about this at the beginning of the podcast to brings in rituals is back episode two just dropped 01:43:53.668 --> 01:44:03.277 [SPEAKER_03]: And now we're going to be on a weekly cycle with them until we start rings until rings of power starts in November, and then we're going to be doing episode episode coverage for that. 01:44:03.677 --> 01:44:08.021 [SPEAKER_03]: Even though it's a weird release schedule, we're definitely going to have coverage on that. 01:44:08.422 --> 01:44:19.332 [SPEAKER_03]: And we got to have a bunch of other things bubbling here and there, so definitely stay tuned, make sure to hit up the link tree link in the show notes, because that will take you to all the affiliates. 01:44:20.325 --> 01:44:24.346 [SPEAKER_03]: Take you to the Discord, subscription options, all that kind of stuff. 01:44:24.766 --> 01:44:25.647 [SPEAKER_03]: I won't go into the whole. 01:44:26.347 --> 01:44:29.088 [SPEAKER_03]: Please support us with our subscriptions. 01:44:29.328 --> 01:44:32.529 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, if you want to, you know how to find this, you know where to to hit us up. 01:44:34.389 --> 01:44:42.412 [SPEAKER_03]: Otherwise, let's give a quick shout out to our community volunteers, Nancy, hand of the pod, Peter O. 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