WEBVTT 00:10.537 --> 00:23.147 [SPEAKER_01]: Hello, and welcome to Medium Literat, the podcast where two longtime best friends try to sharpen our media literacy skills by talking about a new release movie and theaters every week. 00:23.648 --> 00:31.554 [SPEAKER_01]: My name is Emily Fay, my co-host is Monica Scott, and today we are talking about practical magic too. 00:32.435 --> 00:36.278 [SPEAKER_01]: It's all spoilers from here on out, and, 00:38.847 --> 00:48.176 [SPEAKER_01]: If you want to see us, you can go to YouTube and watch the full video episode there. 00:49.317 --> 00:50.398 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, I think that's it. 00:50.439 --> 00:51.159 [SPEAKER_01]: So onto the show. 00:56.004 --> 00:58.466 [SPEAKER_01]: They trapped us back in the screens. 00:59.828 --> 01:00.488 [SPEAKER_01]: They got us. 01:02.039 --> 01:12.007 [SPEAKER_00]: We're back in our boxes, we're frankly, we belong, it's for the best, it's for the best. 01:12.147 --> 01:16.811 [SPEAKER_00]: Hello, welcome, we're back, we're back where we belong, we're in our 01:27.189 --> 01:36.403 [SPEAKER_01]: If the magic is just as strong when we can't put our weird hand lights together. 01:38.302 --> 01:54.974 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, our lines, our scarves, I'm cutting, our cutting scarves, yes, we're going to talk about practical magic too, and I dare say probably a fair amount of practical magic one, because how could we not? 01:55.594 --> 02:04.701 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this is a legacy sequel in every possible way. 02:06.727 --> 02:13.532 [SPEAKER_01]: like this is one of those movies that I imagine if someone has never seen the first one. 02:14.632 --> 02:19.596 [SPEAKER_01]: They're just like absolutely what the fuck is going on here. 02:20.777 --> 02:26.941 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, though I will say if people are just now watching the first one, I bet they're also saying that about the first one. 02:28.142 --> 02:28.822 [SPEAKER_00]: That's true. 02:29.903 --> 02:31.224 [SPEAKER_01]: So you rewatched it, right? 02:32.573 --> 02:34.494 [SPEAKER_00]: I did I rewatched it the night before. 02:35.254 --> 02:36.934 [SPEAKER_01]: When is the last time you saw it? 02:38.215 --> 02:47.257 [SPEAKER_00]: I think I watched it sometime last year, like probably in the fall, but before that I hadn't watched it since probably the early 2000s. 02:47.577 --> 02:50.138 [SPEAKER_00]: And do you have like a fondness for it? 02:52.107 --> 02:57.635 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I believe that this movie has two categories of people. 02:58.296 --> 03:02.783 [SPEAKER_00]: It either has people who saw it 600 times in 1999 and they love it. 03:07.155 --> 03:12.499 [SPEAKER_00]: or they watched it within the last five years and they're wondering what's wrong with the other people's. 03:13.259 --> 03:13.720 [SPEAKER_00]: Love this one. 03:13.740 --> 03:14.180 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 03:14.880 --> 03:17.262 [SPEAKER_01]: That's me. 03:17.282 --> 03:19.684 [SPEAKER_01]: I saw it two old. 03:20.324 --> 03:24.707 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, it's one of those movies, which like this is actually me and Star Wars, too. 03:24.727 --> 03:26.929 [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't see Star Wars until I was 18. 03:27.129 --> 03:31.152 [SPEAKER_01]: And it just, my heart was too hardened to let it in. 03:32.092 --> 03:37.061 [SPEAKER_01]: And I watched practical magic for the first time like around last Halloween. 03:38.063 --> 03:41.989 [SPEAKER_01]: And I knew that it was like so like... 03:42.979 --> 03:43.799 [SPEAKER_01]: beloved. 03:44.559 --> 03:49.000 [SPEAKER_01]: And I was just, I was a little perplexed. 03:51.141 --> 03:59.303 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, and I feel like maybe this is one of the last, I'm sure I say some version of this. 03:59.323 --> 04:01.864 [SPEAKER_00]: It's the last generation of XYZ thing every week. 04:02.244 --> 04:06.525 [SPEAKER_00]: But I do think that we're in the time where like legacy sequels are being made 04:12.526 --> 04:16.648 [SPEAKER_00]: the pre-streaming era because that's that's how I developed a relationship to this movie, right? 04:16.708 --> 04:17.509 [SPEAKER_00]: I saw in theaters. 04:18.089 --> 04:20.410 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know that I thought twice about it when I saw in theaters. 04:21.111 --> 04:22.852 [SPEAKER_00]: I was 13 or 14 or something. 04:24.393 --> 04:33.938 [SPEAKER_00]: But then I was 15 and it came on TV 600 times and it was like my mom liked it and I liked it and so if it was on it was like 04:35.139 --> 04:49.210 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, even just the experience of there are the five channels you check, you see what's on them because those are the ones you know, you usually like the stuff on them, like so it's just like we had HBO for the first time in my life, I think around this time. 04:50.392 --> 04:56.500 [SPEAKER_00]: We were we'd always check to see what was on and if it was a movie we liked it was a rewatchable We'd it would just play. 04:56.520 --> 05:04.831 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so I saw practical magic easily nine hundred It is fun to look at 05:06.693 --> 05:17.297 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, and, you know, where it falls short, maybe story-wise, or tone-wise, or cohesiveness-wise. 05:18.638 --> 05:25.701 [SPEAKER_00]: I do feel like even watching the original, it still makes up for it in just like pure chemistry between these two leads. 05:27.962 --> 05:30.443 [SPEAKER_00]: I just loved them together, and I still do. 05:31.563 --> 05:33.064 [SPEAKER_00]: They're still so charming. 05:37.731 --> 05:50.172 [SPEAKER_01]: What I'm sure we'll get into in a minute, just like the the movie as a whole that is a big part of it, but um yeah, I I think that 05:52.737 --> 05:56.338 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, it's a weird plot in the original. 05:56.458 --> 06:02.160 [SPEAKER_01]: It is a little, like, wait, what's- Yep, this is happening, then this is happening, but this is happening. 06:02.640 --> 06:14.224 [SPEAKER_01]: But I did get where I was like, oh, I guess a lot of what I hear about it and why it's so beloved is the aesthetic. 06:14.364 --> 06:17.165 [SPEAKER_01]: It's the hair, it's the outfits, the house. 06:17.646 --> 06:21.527 [SPEAKER_01]: And when I watched the first one, I was like, no, I fully understand all of that. 06:22.267 --> 06:35.992 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean that's like obvious right the unless you don't even have to have watch it with the sound on exactly One of those movies that was just always on TV, so I Developed a fondness for it that I wouldn't have otherwise was stuck on you. 06:36.012 --> 06:37.593 [SPEAKER_01]: Do you remember stuck on you? 06:38.870 --> 06:41.412 [SPEAKER_00]: I remember the title, but I can't even picture who was in it. 06:41.853 --> 06:48.318 [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's Matt Damon and Greg Canier, and they're like, conjoined twins, and then they got like separated. 06:48.338 --> 06:49.119 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah. 06:49.219 --> 06:52.922 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, okay. 06:53.302 --> 06:54.543 [SPEAKER_01]: I really liked that movie. 06:54.563 --> 06:57.566 [SPEAKER_01]: It was always on like, TBS. 06:58.827 --> 07:00.668 [SPEAKER_01]: So we both went opening night. 07:02.290 --> 07:03.851 [SPEAKER_01]: We were both supposed to go with, 07:05.547 --> 07:07.889 [SPEAKER_00]: Our friends, our Kelsey's. 07:08.089 --> 07:08.710 [SPEAKER_00]: Our Kelsey's. 07:09.150 --> 07:14.875 [SPEAKER_01]: We were both supposed to be there with a Kelsey, and then my Kelsey had a dog emergency. 07:14.975 --> 07:18.218 [SPEAKER_01]: So then I had to go alone, which is usually fine. 07:18.458 --> 07:21.000 [SPEAKER_01]: But this movie, a lot of pairs of women. 07:22.281 --> 07:22.701 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 07:23.302 --> 07:23.982 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 07:25.103 --> 07:30.348 [SPEAKER_01]: And they, for Dolby screenings, the first night, 9.10. 07:32.746 --> 07:35.907 [SPEAKER_01]: They every ticket came with a little bag of charm. 07:36.907 --> 07:41.509 [SPEAKER_01]: This is true, but when I got there, they were out of bag of charms. 07:42.049 --> 07:43.310 [SPEAKER_01]: Charmless somehow. 07:43.390 --> 07:45.150 [SPEAKER_01]: So I was charmless and alone. 07:45.671 --> 07:57.795 [SPEAKER_01]: Some might say it was the lowest point of my life, just that the grovem sea just lonely and without a charm that I persevered. 08:00.724 --> 08:02.545 [SPEAKER_00]: And then you've got to see this movie. 08:03.646 --> 08:06.649 [SPEAKER_01]: I got to sit there and let's move for two hours, ten minutes. 08:08.330 --> 08:12.233 [SPEAKER_00]: But a two hours and ten minutes you frankly feel every second of. 08:13.269 --> 08:18.073 [SPEAKER_01]: It was, and you know, I'm not a movie-length complainer. 08:18.113 --> 08:25.119 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm really not, but it's like there's just no world where practical magic to specifically should be over two hours. 08:27.200 --> 08:32.685 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and it is, and it really is. 08:33.025 --> 08:38.790 [SPEAKER_00]: It's also, I mean, I have never and probably will never read the books that these are based on. 08:40.746 --> 08:54.475 [SPEAKER_00]: But I know that this is the second, both are the story of two books, but that this second book, there's like rumor that the second book came out in 2021 08:56.885 --> 09:03.009 [SPEAKER_00]: to pressure Sandra Bullock into making another practical magic movie. 09:04.150 --> 09:12.395 [SPEAKER_01]: I believe that, like I do believe that that book was purely written so that the second one would get made, like absolutely. 09:12.896 --> 09:21.982 [SPEAKER_00]: And also that there was, like I don't know if you remember this, when Max was originally like announced and rolling out that there was going to be a practical magic prequel series. 09:23.290 --> 09:35.914 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, well, again, I also haven't read any of them, but then isn't there a book that was written by her like a long time ago that was like the ants when they were young? 09:36.574 --> 09:38.535 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, so the first book comes out in like 90s. 09:39.955 --> 10:06.746 [SPEAKER_00]: I think and that's the first movie and then between that book and the one that came out in 2021 There were two prequel books that were written in the in between years and they are yeah prequel like the ants when they were younger and What that was like and max part of one of brothers max roll out included an announcement of a practical magic prequel series 10:07.527 --> 10:10.914 [SPEAKER_00]: And the rumor, I don't, you know, I can't substantiate this. 10:10.954 --> 10:12.878 [SPEAKER_00]: I tried and I couldn't quite figure it out. 10:12.898 --> 10:16.324 [SPEAKER_00]: I can find the announcements of the show and the announcement of it being canned. 10:16.545 --> 10:18.529 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but the rumor is that 10:20.294 --> 10:38.946 [SPEAKER_00]: Sandra Bullock and Nicole Kidman both had it in their contract that no other practical magic things could get made without their either participation or permission one or the other and they had not contacted them about this show and so when it was announced like they get letters from the lawyer that's like 10:39.766 --> 10:51.675 [SPEAKER_00]: Hi, oh, hey, you can't do this like and they weren't they weren't involving Stockard Channing or Diane Weast or like any of the original people. 10:51.915 --> 10:56.878 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so So then after that happens 10:57.799 --> 10:59.340 [SPEAKER_00]: then this book comes out. 10:59.941 --> 11:10.728 [SPEAKER_00]: They had proposed movies like sequel sequels to her several times like in the 2010s and she was like, does the original writer want to do it? 11:10.808 --> 11:12.469 [SPEAKER_00]: Does the original director want to do it? 11:12.549 --> 11:13.910 [SPEAKER_00]: And every time they're like, no. 11:16.052 --> 11:16.372 [SPEAKER_00]: And so, 11:18.213 --> 11:35.361 [SPEAKER_00]: the rumor was that it again kind of unsubstantiated but I've seen like stuff saying that like Warner Bros. was encouraging the book writer to write another book so that they end like promising optioning so that they could get standardable like two. 11:35.381 --> 11:37.742 [SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't have been probably going to get it. 11:38.722 --> 11:53.776 [SPEAKER_01]: else would she just like randomly come out with like a kind of shitty new story in this universe in like 2021 like so long after the like why yeah it doesn't I mean and I don't know the name 11:55.148 --> 11:57.690 [SPEAKER_00]: bookwise I have no idea if I think this story is shitty. 11:57.750 --> 12:01.253 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't really know if the like experience of reading it is different. 12:01.453 --> 12:05.617 [SPEAKER_00]: I would assume it's like maybe it makes more sense but I would say movie wise. 12:06.798 --> 12:13.583 [SPEAKER_00]: It did not make sense to do this with less time having passed than actually passed in reality. 12:13.963 --> 12:15.485 [SPEAKER_01]: It's so crazy. 12:16.445 --> 12:19.608 [SPEAKER_00]: It's so crazy to make that choice because like they 12:25.012 --> 12:30.441 [SPEAKER_00]: and then it's just appropriate that she has 37 years old because everyone else aged that amount as well. 12:30.461 --> 12:34.347 [SPEAKER_01]: It's the whole thing. 12:34.367 --> 12:34.467 [SPEAKER_01]: Lake. 12:36.763 --> 12:55.495 [SPEAKER_00]: this movie just first of all wait show me your charm okay so the charm yes the back drums okay so i have my practical magic oh little little package it came in and the charm i got was the moon it's a moon guess what 12:57.154 --> 12:58.695 [SPEAKER_00]: We all three got the moon. 13:00.516 --> 13:03.117 [SPEAKER_00]: I think maybe this was the main one they made. 13:03.137 --> 13:07.440 [SPEAKER_00]: I see. 13:09.521 --> 13:10.221 [SPEAKER_01]: Interesting. 13:10.541 --> 13:13.783 [SPEAKER_01]: They clearly at least did not mix things up in the boxes. 13:13.863 --> 13:15.904 [SPEAKER_01]: They just sent moon box here. 13:16.745 --> 13:17.305 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 13:18.025 --> 13:19.286 [SPEAKER_00]: Raven box here. 13:19.646 --> 13:20.367 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure like. 13:21.741 --> 13:31.248 [SPEAKER_00]: If I think about just the manufacturing, I'm sure this was a mold that already existed that they were like, let's make it. 13:31.428 --> 13:37.393 [SPEAKER_01]: Mostly moose, but clearly not enough since they ran out. 13:37.913 --> 13:39.394 [SPEAKER_01]: And it was a one night promotion. 13:39.494 --> 13:40.795 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like, how did that happen? 13:41.035 --> 13:42.676 [SPEAKER_00]: Really shocking that they ran out. 13:42.716 --> 13:49.562 [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like do employees keep them, I'm not using the employees of a crime, but I'm just wondering why they would run out. 13:52.133 --> 13:55.255 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't necessarily need the moon, or the charm. 13:55.515 --> 13:56.436 [SPEAKER_01]: I just wanted to get it. 13:56.456 --> 13:58.978 [SPEAKER_01]: I want to get like an item. 13:59.438 --> 14:00.519 [SPEAKER_01]: I love to get an item. 14:00.619 --> 14:03.221 [SPEAKER_01]: And then I would even, I would give the item away. 14:03.241 --> 14:04.902 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't even care about having the item. 14:04.922 --> 14:06.083 [SPEAKER_01]: I just love getting an item. 14:06.845 --> 14:11.787 [SPEAKER_00]: Much like how I gave you my free minions. 14:12.788 --> 14:16.029 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want an item for the most part. 14:16.069 --> 14:19.791 [SPEAKER_00]: Although a little metal thing at least, I can hang on my person. 14:19.991 --> 14:21.692 [SPEAKER_00]: I have a black person anyway, so it's fine. 14:21.952 --> 14:28.895 [SPEAKER_01]: The minions one has some emotional meaning to me, which is that I love the minions. 14:29.535 --> 14:31.757 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, and that your friend gave it to you? 14:31.997 --> 14:32.197 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes. 14:33.998 --> 14:34.799 [SPEAKER_00]: It's cool, just checking. 14:35.559 --> 14:40.322 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, the minions, that movie is really about friendship between the minions. 14:40.662 --> 14:41.183 [SPEAKER_01]: It's true. 14:41.483 --> 14:48.267 [SPEAKER_01]: So it really, especially means a lot that Monica gave me her minion tea chain from when she saw minions in monster. 14:49.848 --> 14:52.330 [SPEAKER_00]: And they, my theaters always have the free items. 14:53.190 --> 14:55.271 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and mine just do not. 14:56.311 --> 14:59.593 [SPEAKER_01]: So what did you think of practical magic, too? 15:01.974 --> 15:09.618 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, I obviously think it was bad, but I think that 15:10.658 --> 15:25.355 [SPEAKER_00]: There were moments where it was cooking and those moments where when Sandra Bullock was funny again, which she just, I have not been exposed to her doing that in so long and like, you know, being a child of the 90s. 15:27.765 --> 15:31.347 [SPEAKER_00]: and she was the rom-com star in the comedy. 15:31.427 --> 15:33.469 [SPEAKER_00]: The brown hair brown-eyed comedy star. 15:33.529 --> 15:39.532 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, she did mean a lot to me throughout my like childhood and young adulthood. 15:39.612 --> 15:45.836 [SPEAKER_00]: So, because she's funny and she's, you know, cute in a way that I felt like I was achievable. 15:46.316 --> 15:46.897 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 15:47.177 --> 15:50.299 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I just like looked up to her in such a specific way and that I feel like she, 15:50.999 --> 15:52.901 [SPEAKER_00]: stopped doing comedy. 15:53.041 --> 15:56.985 [SPEAKER_00]: She I've not seen much that she's done really. 15:57.005 --> 15:59.107 [SPEAKER_00]: I like I didn't watch birdbox. 15:59.608 --> 16:01.650 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that is certainly not a comedy. 16:01.750 --> 16:03.752 [SPEAKER_01]: What is the latest thing she's done? 16:03.792 --> 16:05.634 [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like I haven't seen her in forever. 16:06.576 --> 16:10.402 [SPEAKER_00]: And she owns a production company, and I know I watched a lot of interviews. 16:10.562 --> 16:17.833 [SPEAKER_00]: I watched a lot of Sandy and Nick interviews, where they call each other, Sandy and Nick that they're, they are delightful together. 16:17.873 --> 16:20.657 [SPEAKER_00]: But I, they she talked in a bunch of them about. 16:21.638 --> 16:28.140 [SPEAKER_00]: how much she loves home restoration and like does a lot of like real estate home restoration stuff. 16:28.160 --> 16:37.563 [SPEAKER_01]: The the lost city was the first was the last like comedy thing she really and I and I saw that and I looked and that was still all the way back in 2022. 16:39.403 --> 16:54.224 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, what all I'm saying is I think she's doing other stuff that just, you know, actors are as multifaceted as anyone else and she, you know, is in a position where she doesn't have to do movies all the time to maintain a level of fame. 16:55.145 --> 17:09.870 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe there was some downtime for her, medically, based on her facial structure in this movie, which I'm not saying with judgment, just an observation. 17:11.090 --> 17:12.771 [SPEAKER_00]: And so, yeah, I don't know. 17:12.831 --> 17:17.653 [SPEAKER_00]: But so, like every time her and Nicole Kidman were cooking with each other and they were funny and have, 17:25.836 --> 17:32.481 [SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes the chemistry is almost too undeniable or it's like Nicole. 17:33.021 --> 17:35.123 [SPEAKER_01]: You remember your playing sisters, right? 17:36.404 --> 17:36.904 [SPEAKER_01]: Nicole? 17:37.685 --> 17:38.866 [SPEAKER_00]: Nicole, guess already. 17:42.088 --> 17:48.834 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean it is funny I was watching also thinking like is this the closest to what I think Nicole Kidman is actually like kind of. 17:49.594 --> 17:52.296 [SPEAKER_00]: This is the character that I'm like I think she's maybe just 17:53.417 --> 17:55.158 [SPEAKER_00]: Goofy and Flirty in this way. 17:55.379 --> 17:57.380 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, I agree. 17:58.321 --> 18:06.967 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like, hey, that would be fun to be friends with Nicole Kidman and she's just touching you all the time. 18:07.067 --> 18:17.314 [SPEAKER_00]: And in the original one, that's that is like their expression of love and sisterhood is they are touching and kissing and like, Yander and like physically affectionate. 18:21.197 --> 18:21.758 [SPEAKER_00]: Not fair. 18:21.778 --> 18:32.706 [SPEAKER_01]: I think no, but it is just funny when there's like a full five-minute scene at the end It's just like whatever. 18:32.886 --> 18:46.596 [SPEAKER_01]: I yes, okay, so yeah, this movie sucks But I was so I was expecting it to suck so bad That I almost enjoyed it a little bit because the amount I was expecting it to suck 18:48.873 --> 18:55.376 [SPEAKER_01]: I guess it did technically meet that, but I didn't totally, like, I wasn't like totally miserable the whole time. 18:55.396 --> 18:56.817 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 18:58.078 --> 19:05.862 [SPEAKER_01]: The movie really did die a terrible death every time those two were not on screen. 19:07.950 --> 19:10.952 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, the stalker chanting stuff. 19:11.253 --> 19:18.418 [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't mind, although she's maybe the worst perpetrator of the face lift of all of them. 19:19.179 --> 19:21.020 [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, this bitch is 80 years old. 19:21.060 --> 19:21.921 [SPEAKER_00]: What do you mean? 19:21.941 --> 19:22.121 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 19:22.361 --> 19:26.184 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, yeah, with the ants, it was fine. 19:26.224 --> 19:35.171 [SPEAKER_01]: OK, whenever anyone knew was on screen without them, I love Maisie Williams and was so looking forward to seeing her 19:37.292 --> 19:41.613 [SPEAKER_00]: Modern, yeah, and she was completely side blind. 19:41.693 --> 19:45.794 [SPEAKER_00]: It's crazy how much is nothing to do Being a doctor. 19:46.314 --> 19:58.356 [SPEAKER_01]: Also a neurosurgeon is very funny It's also what the way in which her and stalker channing were just very quickly Trapped in that one room. 19:59.077 --> 20:00.497 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was like, okay one 20:01.580 --> 20:06.483 [SPEAKER_01]: If you're like a doctor or resident or whatever, there's simply no way. 20:06.523 --> 20:12.286 [SPEAKER_01]: You can just go up and hang out in this room 24, 7. 20:13.146 --> 20:14.067 [SPEAKER_01]: There's just no way. 20:14.547 --> 20:26.614 [SPEAKER_01]: But it was so like, did they have, did her and stalker'd have like two days to shoot or something like that is exactly what I was thinking. 20:26.634 --> 20:28.435 [SPEAKER_01]: Because it was so weird. 20:29.722 --> 20:35.066 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I was wondering if they didn't have them, both of them, for very long, and they had Joey King for longer. 20:36.247 --> 20:41.551 [SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, you planted it in my head to be suspicious of Joey King, cause I was just kind of didn't question her. 20:41.571 --> 20:43.172 [SPEAKER_00]: I, you know. 20:44.628 --> 20:50.832 [SPEAKER_00]: I think you can have more personal beefs with actresses than I tend to. 20:50.852 --> 20:55.256 [SPEAKER_00]: I, for me, it's like, their whole job is to charm me and entertain me. 20:55.276 --> 20:59.379 [SPEAKER_00]: And if they do that, then I don't think too hard unless something's obvious. 20:59.939 --> 21:03.662 [SPEAKER_00]: But now that you have put this suspicion in my mind, I was watching this. 21:05.417 --> 21:09.018 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this was the wrong choice. 21:09.298 --> 21:11.298 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean also for story was done. 21:11.318 --> 21:15.559 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I've never been particularly charmed by her. 21:15.579 --> 21:23.041 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think people are very mean to her about her looks, and I don't like that, but just I'm really, I feel like she's pretty. 21:23.061 --> 21:28.002 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but as an actress, I've just never been particularly charmed by her. 21:28.742 --> 21:32.806 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, yeah, but yeah, the character was bad. 21:33.166 --> 21:42.895 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, the character, I don't know, it also just like, yeah, I, I simply wished that was Evan Rachel it. 21:43.695 --> 21:45.237 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the whole movie. 21:46.258 --> 21:52.263 [SPEAKER_01]: I think that, um, well, one, it just is weird that, yeah, it's like somehow she's like, 21:53.933 --> 22:06.484 [SPEAKER_01]: 22 because we're also she didn't have there's like two shots that make it seem like she and her boyfriend are in college and It just looks like a college campus. 22:07.045 --> 22:08.866 [SPEAKER_01]: They are supposed to be great, but it's like 22:09.927 --> 22:30.255 [SPEAKER_01]: other than that, they should have just not had them be in college because that would make it less weird that they get married, like while still in college or a year after, that would make it less weird that she has her own apartment somehow with no job, that would make it less weird that like, I don't know just all these things that she can just take off. 22:31.055 --> 22:31.715 [SPEAKER_01]: randomly. 22:32.116 --> 22:33.957 [SPEAKER_01]: Like there was just no reason for that. 22:34.297 --> 22:38.499 [SPEAKER_01]: And she could have been at least a little older, which would have made a little more sense. 22:38.519 --> 22:40.320 [SPEAKER_01]: Like why couldn't she be a 27-year-old? 22:40.440 --> 22:40.780 [SPEAKER_01]: You know? 22:41.681 --> 22:43.822 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, which I think is Joey King's actual age. 22:43.862 --> 22:44.443 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 22:44.683 --> 22:50.486 [SPEAKER_00]: It was just, yeah, I didn't necessarily bump on any of the college stuff as like 22:52.354 --> 23:11.524 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, situational like I just didn't find myself questioning any of that seems like they're rich people So I do you know whatever like my thing was maybe like look people get married young They do it's fine people get married at 22 23 all the time whatever, but It's actually very common. 23:11.804 --> 23:18.127 [SPEAKER_00]: I know but it's just sort of like I don't know this doesn't seem like the family we're 23:19.400 --> 23:19.861 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know. 23:20.101 --> 23:26.795 [SPEAKER_01]: It just seems like they could have had her be like not a 22 year whatever that is not the main issue the main issue is that 23:28.323 --> 23:44.913 [SPEAKER_01]: The story is a mess and I think I was just really thinking about how one of the biggest problems legacy sequels have is the legacy sequels always what they do the formula is always to be like the next generation. 23:45.514 --> 23:55.100 [SPEAKER_01]: Like it's like the people's kids and there's some sort of like mirroring of the first one with these new people and the problem is that 23:57.051 --> 24:04.440 [SPEAKER_01]: The reason anyone cares about the IP in the first place is because of the original people in it. 24:04.981 --> 24:11.949 [SPEAKER_01]: And also, there just is kind of a, we have a bit of a lack of movie stars at the moment. 24:12.530 --> 24:12.890 [SPEAKER_01]: And like, 24:14.213 --> 24:20.521 [SPEAKER_01]: Amazing Williams and Joey King are no like peak era Sandra Bullock and Nicole Kidman. 24:21.142 --> 24:26.209 [SPEAKER_00]: That's really true because that is the main thing I think when I watch the original now. 24:26.349 --> 24:30.955 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, man, these two were at like the height of their powers as like, 24:31.729 --> 24:33.931 [SPEAKER_00]: just completely irresistible to watch. 24:33.971 --> 24:36.494 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, actresses, and they're so fun. 24:36.694 --> 24:46.543 [SPEAKER_00]: And I will say, the original movie gave me a completely unrealistic view of what like a healthy head of hair when he is supposed to be like. 24:47.704 --> 24:53.209 [SPEAKER_00]: It took me quite a long time to understand when I was looking at wigs and extensions, but I'm there now. 24:53.229 --> 24:55.631 [SPEAKER_00]: I understand. 24:55.671 --> 25:01.756 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the damage is done mentally, but yes, I spent years of trying to like desperately grow my hair. 25:02.997 --> 25:03.978 [SPEAKER_00]: Couldn't figure it out. 25:05.619 --> 25:10.123 [SPEAKER_00]: But like, yeah, them at that time, they were so different. 25:10.823 --> 25:12.505 [SPEAKER_00]: And that really worked well. 25:13.646 --> 25:16.428 [SPEAKER_00]: And they still, you know, they still kind of are. 25:18.177 --> 25:25.524 [SPEAKER_00]: But I, yeah, to write the book and have it be about the new generation, I don't know, I just, yeah, I'm not that interested. 25:25.544 --> 25:29.228 [SPEAKER_00]: I, yeah, I think it was not that interesting of a story. 25:30.449 --> 25:34.093 [SPEAKER_00]: And I have no idea why it needed to be set in England. 25:34.293 --> 25:35.394 [SPEAKER_00]: Also, I just feel like, 25:36.664 --> 25:53.686 [SPEAKER_00]: you know, when I put together all these like component parts of my complaints about the movie, what it feels like more than anything is that the people in charge of this movie didn't understand what what people love about the first movie. 25:54.547 --> 26:05.678 [SPEAKER_01]: Which is like, it's very like people think of it as really like cozy movie and it's like one of the other problems with like Any sort of sequel really one of my biggest issues with a lot of sequels. 26:05.838 --> 26:11.023 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like they have the first one which people love and then the second one They're like we got to go bigger 26:11.443 --> 26:26.065 [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like I've talked about this before on the podcast with how the second car's movie, which I've never seen, but it's like, you know, goes from like the death of small town America to they're doing a heist in Japan or whatever, you know. 26:26.465 --> 26:29.768 [SPEAKER_01]: And so with this, they're like, we got to leave the country. 26:30.068 --> 26:35.893 [SPEAKER_01]: We got to go to England and we got to get into the lore of the Owens and remember, you know? 26:36.674 --> 26:39.516 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it wasn't, it wasn't good. 26:39.616 --> 26:50.366 [SPEAKER_00]: It also like, um, it lost the thread on like the appeal of the witchiness and magic. 26:50.826 --> 26:51.106 [SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm. 26:55.572 --> 27:00.736 [SPEAKER_00]: Like I think, so the first movie did the magic really well because it was practical, right? 27:00.896 --> 27:01.536 [SPEAKER_00]: Genuinely. 27:01.696 --> 27:03.037 [SPEAKER_00]: It was practical effects. 27:03.537 --> 27:04.018 [SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't. 27:04.258 --> 27:11.022 [SPEAKER_00]: It was like, you were doing things that weren't visible, but that convenience to you or that helped you in some way. 27:11.203 --> 27:17.407 [SPEAKER_00]: And they were just these like, the sequel sort of immediately gets into like, 27:18.482 --> 27:36.804 [SPEAKER_01]: horn ball, Harry Potter, yeah, stuff where it's like we're more spilled type shit where it's I hated that no it's so is not what anyone wants from this it's like no we don't want you to like fight with your magic we don't want you to fight a bad guy like do a magic fight 27:38.423 --> 27:47.765 [SPEAKER_00]: No, it sucked and it sort of just runs a fall of the title of the movie. 27:47.985 --> 27:56.107 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, it's really not particularly practical if it's like I'm doing like mean staring and like wizard hands. 27:56.507 --> 27:59.588 [SPEAKER_00]: It's I really really didn't like that. 27:59.648 --> 28:06.430 [SPEAKER_00]: And it like immediately took it from something that was so appealing because it was so grounded in like 28:07.493 --> 28:10.670 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, a reality that was mystical, but not like 28:12.258 --> 28:38.786 [SPEAKER_01]: utterly fanciful and it turned it into like franchise slopp basically and it's like the magic and the first one is like aside from the curse of it all it's like fun like like there is something like you're like like you know the only time they captured that this one I thought was the multiple times when someone blows the flame onto a candle which is like it's a little thing but it's like 28:40.278 --> 28:41.519 [SPEAKER_00]: or the stirring, right? 28:41.539 --> 28:45.442 [SPEAKER_00]: Those are the two things that they ever, that they brought back at all, that was ever. 28:46.983 --> 28:55.689 [SPEAKER_00]: I guess, and the only large magic thing I liked was when she would like make all the cabinets open. 28:56.049 --> 28:57.510 [SPEAKER_00]: Right, because that was a practical effect. 28:57.730 --> 28:58.791 [SPEAKER_00]: That's the reason I liked it. 29:01.233 --> 29:09.098 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and it was like something real happening in the story as opposed to, yeah, 29:10.179 --> 29:19.930 [SPEAKER_01]: There's blue lights and yellow lights, and they're pushing up against each other, and it's like, okay, um, yeah, 8. 29:21.512 --> 29:27.799 [SPEAKER_01]: Also for the, for the villain, to be a guy you meet two seconds prior. 29:28.680 --> 29:29.541 [SPEAKER_00]: That was crazy. 29:29.601 --> 29:35.604 [SPEAKER_00]: And also for him to have way more chemistry with Joey King than the boyfriend who were doing something. 29:35.624 --> 29:36.324 [SPEAKER_00]: I know. 29:36.624 --> 29:38.886 [SPEAKER_01]: And then it's like, oh, they're related. 29:40.026 --> 29:46.049 [SPEAKER_00]: And it's also just the idea of, look, not to. 29:46.970 --> 29:48.070 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not victim blaming. 29:48.310 --> 29:48.791 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. 29:49.331 --> 29:52.713 [SPEAKER_01]: But for Joey King, as a character, 29:54.413 --> 30:11.667 [SPEAKER_01]: to just go to a completely isolated house in the middle of nowhere with a shifty-eyed muscular stranger she just met and hasn't spoken to words to and then drink open beverages he's serving her. 30:12.587 --> 30:18.832 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like I know you don't know about magic but you also like not know about the world. 30:18.872 --> 30:21.174 [SPEAKER_01]: Have you been in a cave for the past 22 years? 30:22.755 --> 30:45.870 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that was actually completely frustrating to watch because it feels like you know the depiction of witches is a little bit like in the first one is a little bit like they know what's going on and they see like they're smart and and it's innate to them and they can't help it. 30:46.543 --> 31:01.675 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and wouldn't she have some of that even if they tried to keep the magic secret like, I don't know, but it's like no one's actually particularly naive and then she passes out and then wakes up like, oh, that was crazy. 31:01.735 --> 31:02.776 [SPEAKER_01]: Sorry about that. 31:04.977 --> 31:07.178 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that was like not good writing to me. 31:07.218 --> 31:30.187 [SPEAKER_01]: Just flat out like that doesn't make any sense It's it's completely absurd And then even when they get to the ceiling every single thing he is also just like he is very from the moment we see him He's like looking around like he's be as suspicious and then everything he tells her to do She's like Okay, okay, okay 31:31.307 --> 31:36.191 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, what did he, I feel like he did something when they got to them. 31:36.292 --> 31:37.232 [SPEAKER_01]: He's like put that there. 31:37.252 --> 31:39.154 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, put the book there. 31:39.174 --> 31:41.056 [SPEAKER_01]: He's like, okay. 31:41.076 --> 31:42.437 [SPEAKER_00]: She's like, okay, yeah. 31:44.619 --> 31:46.300 [SPEAKER_01]: But no, that can completely irritating. 31:46.841 --> 31:51.565 [SPEAKER_01]: Way more chemistry and it's not even like I thought their chemistry was a great but her and the boyfriend it was just like, 31:53.492 --> 31:55.473 [SPEAKER_00]: What a dud that character was. 31:57.273 --> 32:09.938 [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like in trying to make a sweet guy, they made that kind of guy who's so kind of like, I'm a sweetie pie that he's actually the most annoying fucking person on earth. 32:10.538 --> 32:14.259 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's like really unappealingly kind of pathetic. 32:14.499 --> 32:14.900 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 32:15.240 --> 32:15.980 [SPEAKER_00]: That he's like, 32:18.103 --> 32:41.213 [SPEAKER_00]: We just went to sleep and then I woke up and I'm going to get her six kinds of flowers and I'm writing my bike to the real, this is something I was thinking in the moment was like the depiction of him writing his bike to the actual like floral mart where like professional florists are picking out was like this guy would be at the grocery store. 32:42.454 --> 32:56.763 [SPEAKER_00]: buying the whatever plastic wrapped bouquet which like nothing wrong with that but there's just it's not realistic that the skier he was just so I feel like when she was like watching that video with him in the background he's so just like he's kind of that kind of guy who just 33:04.027 --> 33:06.549 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, I am, I let him die. 33:06.569 --> 33:13.574 [SPEAKER_00]: I let him die, she'll be better off sometimes, you know, when you're in college, you just think someone's great. 33:13.734 --> 33:16.256 [SPEAKER_00]: And it's on a later that you're like, wow. 33:16.796 --> 33:17.377 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. 33:17.677 --> 33:21.560 [SPEAKER_01]: You just, it's like, I, that is just such a type of guy. 33:21.780 --> 33:27.444 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, right now, especially in the, there are so many guys that think that that is the way to be. 33:27.464 --> 33:28.625 [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah. 33:28.765 --> 33:30.947 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just gonna be such a little cuteie by. 33:30.967 --> 33:32.828 [SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, oh my God. 33:33.137 --> 33:35.440 [SPEAKER_00]: Please just be yourself normal style. 33:35.520 --> 33:38.444 [SPEAKER_00]: We would prefer that, that's our message. 33:39.125 --> 33:44.432 [SPEAKER_01]: You might as well be like, putting on a one-zm being like, Mommy, I'm purved. 33:45.213 --> 33:47.637 [SPEAKER_01]: Help me, it's like horrible. 33:48.223 --> 34:07.356 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, and it's funny, you know, I think now we can we can get to the lead pace of it all to you because I actually think there's like a similar observation to be made there, which is like lead pace is to me one of the most interesting actors to watch he's obviously beautiful, but also just like 34:10.173 --> 34:26.042 [SPEAKER_00]: And listen, maybe this is just because he's in my favorite movie of all time of the fall, but I just feel like he He's physically imposing he is Mysterious and melancholic without saying anything. 34:26.542 --> 34:31.385 [SPEAKER_00]: There's like a danger to him in a sadness I just find him like really compelling to watch 34:32.125 --> 34:41.455 [SPEAKER_00]: And I thought, and I said this to you in a text that I was like, it's kind of brilliant casting for like the girl movie to cast the most female gaze. 34:41.535 --> 34:42.897 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, possible, right? 34:43.518 --> 34:46.641 [SPEAKER_00]: But then they make him have a weird British accent. 34:48.122 --> 34:52.345 [SPEAKER_00]: You are making my Texas boy have a weird British accent. 34:52.365 --> 34:52.445 [SPEAKER_01]: Why? 34:55.428 --> 34:57.930 [SPEAKER_00]: And it's like to soften him more or something. 34:58.090 --> 35:01.613 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because they said he moved around from all these universities. 35:01.633 --> 35:04.035 [SPEAKER_01]: He could have very easily been American. 35:04.755 --> 35:05.135 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 35:05.235 --> 35:08.876 [SPEAKER_01]: And it just, oh no, he was from that town. 35:09.416 --> 35:09.677 [SPEAKER_00]: Right. 35:09.717 --> 35:17.099 [SPEAKER_00]: It just rang very, very, very false in a similar vein to and like in a way that felt like a misfire. 35:17.479 --> 35:17.719 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 35:17.779 --> 35:21.520 [SPEAKER_00]: The way the boyfriend of Joey King's character feels like a misfire. 35:21.580 --> 35:29.962 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like you tried to make the most sensitive character and so you made a character that is like repulsive. 35:31.623 --> 35:31.903 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 35:32.523 --> 35:51.751 [SPEAKER_00]: Then they take this, like, extremely masculine, but like, very kind of, like, fascinating, mysterious guy, and they make him the worst version of himself by making him have a fake British accent that suits two soft and two kind of, like, put on and it didn't feel sincere. 35:52.355 --> 36:03.885 [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't hate his character, but it was like, I think they had him in love with Sandra Bullock in a way that was way too immediate and their poor felt very fake. 36:04.225 --> 36:06.847 [SPEAKER_01]: Where it was like, he just laid eyes on her. 36:06.927 --> 36:10.891 [SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, I'd get like you're saying, that's very like, that's what women want. 36:11.191 --> 36:16.035 [SPEAKER_01]: They want a guide to see them and then immediately be like, I'm in love with you. 36:16.055 --> 36:17.396 [SPEAKER_01]: I've been waiting for you my whole life. 36:17.496 --> 36:20.619 [SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, I think I could have played it a little slower. 36:22.072 --> 36:35.354 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think you just made me realize like that is actually the central issue of the movie, which is like this movie has a child's interpretation of what women want in every possible way. 36:36.555 --> 36:40.395 [SPEAKER_00]: And like there's no room for complexity in an event. 36:40.415 --> 36:48.197 [SPEAKER_01]: Which is then particularly jarring when it is these more mature actors and actresses. 36:49.137 --> 36:59.922 [SPEAKER_00]: And also the original, I thought, to its credit, like, of course it got a lot of stuff wrong and it was kind of crazy, but I think that the depiction of sisterhood specifically 37:01.590 --> 37:10.158 [SPEAKER_00]: didn't shy away from its spike year parts, you know, the fighting, the like friction, the disappointment, the frustration, but also the love that stays. 37:10.639 --> 37:22.030 [SPEAKER_00]: Like this movie shy away from all of that kind of people, except for with this absurd plot, where it's like, never tell the girls their magic, never mind there were 12 when the thing happened in the first place. 37:22.070 --> 37:22.470 [SPEAKER_00]: So it's like, 37:23.631 --> 37:24.372 [SPEAKER_01]: Was that? 37:24.532 --> 37:33.936 [SPEAKER_01]: I was kind of figure out if that like incantation she was doing in the beginning at the grave and the flashback and was Her doing something to make them forget. 37:34.717 --> 37:39.299 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, that's what I think so, but it but it's I don't it just was so implausible to me. 37:39.319 --> 37:49.865 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I kind of absurd and it just Set the rest of the movie on the wrong path which I know I guess I guess it's fully based on the book So the book is setting it on the wrong path 37:50.725 --> 38:12.533 [SPEAKER_01]: And also I don't know for it to not be creative enough to have it be anything but one of the most overused tropes in all of media is magic young person discovering that they have these powers they didn't know about. 38:13.333 --> 38:15.874 [SPEAKER_01]: And so for them to not figure out a plot, 38:16.994 --> 38:41.034 [SPEAKER_01]: without it being that somehow it's like why couldn't you come up with a plot where like yeah these girls Know that they're magic they see the effect it's out on their family and They're still some issue, but it's it's just so boring to watch another one of those like We're magic and you didn't tell me 38:43.018 --> 38:46.882 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like, yeah, I didn't even know because it's blah, blah, blah. 38:47.923 --> 38:57.093 [SPEAKER_00]: And it's not trusting its own characters with the maturity to like handle a more complicated version of this story, which I think would be far more interesting. 38:57.173 --> 39:00.896 [SPEAKER_00]: And also the large female fanbase that I think 39:02.353 --> 39:07.175 [SPEAKER_00]: will accept what they're given, but it deserves better than what they're given. 39:07.196 --> 39:11.758 [SPEAKER_00]: Because like, media for women can be good and complicated. 39:12.858 --> 39:18.161 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like, in the first one, not that it's that good or complicated, but it is compared to this one. 39:18.221 --> 39:19.502 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like Sandra Bullock. 39:20.442 --> 39:21.923 [SPEAKER_01]: I have, isn't it? 39:21.963 --> 39:25.425 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, she knows about the curse, but she falls in love anyways, and he dies. 39:26.305 --> 39:26.625 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 39:26.965 --> 39:33.948 [SPEAKER_01]: So it's not like it's not like as simple as like, oh, if they know about the curse, they would never accidentally fall in love or whatever. 39:35.749 --> 39:42.391 [SPEAKER_01]: And... Yeah, I don't know. 39:42.431 --> 39:43.152 [SPEAKER_01]: It just didn't... 39:44.475 --> 39:48.357 [SPEAKER_01]: There's also something ballsier about that in the first movie. 39:49.037 --> 39:51.538 [SPEAKER_01]: Her guy does die. 39:51.758 --> 39:53.299 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like, nope, that's the curse. 39:54.019 --> 39:55.260 [SPEAKER_01]: So he dies. 39:55.900 --> 39:56.560 [SPEAKER_00]: Where's that? 39:57.501 --> 40:12.347 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not saying that this character should have died necessarily, but like, it's just shows how sort of toothless everything is that they're like, no, for some reason, he's in a coma, but she can save him. 40:14.848 --> 40:15.248 [SPEAKER_00]: Right. 40:15.468 --> 40:30.937 [SPEAKER_00]: I think that that, I mean, it also all it would have taken is maybe like a little bit of explanation about how this other person in England who wants the family powers and is doing the like dark magic to get it. 40:31.918 --> 40:38.141 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure there could have been one or two lines about how that guy is doing something to delay the curse so that we can bring them over. 40:38.722 --> 40:40.162 [SPEAKER_00]: And that is all it would have taken. 40:40.342 --> 40:40.603 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes. 40:42.164 --> 40:45.066 [SPEAKER_00]: And maybe that was there and I missed it, but I don't think it was. 40:45.126 --> 40:48.128 [SPEAKER_01]: No, instead it's just like, oh, how convenient. 40:48.968 --> 40:51.390 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this is the one time they don't die immediately. 40:51.410 --> 40:52.951 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 40:53.171 --> 41:00.296 [SPEAKER_01]: And she happens to be the one who is powerful enough to unlock these pages. 41:00.937 --> 41:01.477 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 41:04.199 --> 41:06.220 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it just didn't. 41:06.940 --> 41:11.402 [SPEAKER_01]: I did kind of like the moment where they think that Lee Paces that you've all got. 41:12.502 --> 41:12.802 [SPEAKER_01]: Sure. 41:13.783 --> 41:14.843 [SPEAKER_00]: I guess I'm twist. 41:15.183 --> 41:19.184 [SPEAKER_01]: But it's a twist that ends up not being a twist, but it's like for a minute. 41:19.204 --> 41:20.145 [SPEAKER_01]: You're like, okay 41:21.465 --> 41:22.666 [SPEAKER_00]: I like that. 41:22.847 --> 41:35.076 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, and that does usually paces sort of like mysterious in a way that is like slightly more interesting, but the guy who was playing the villain, who we met for five minutes, yeah. 41:35.256 --> 41:38.999 [SPEAKER_01]: Which also, and you're gonna have someone in it for five minutes, get someone recognizable. 41:39.559 --> 41:40.800 [SPEAKER_00]: Who the fuck was that? 41:41.201 --> 41:41.621 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know. 41:41.761 --> 41:45.064 [SPEAKER_00]: But I will say he gave a really good performance. 41:45.384 --> 41:45.624 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, 41:47.435 --> 41:56.223 [SPEAKER_00]: I think that he played the charm quite well, and then I think that he played the rage, even though the scene was written in a way that was kind of annoying. 41:56.363 --> 41:59.186 [SPEAKER_00]: Like we are listening to this guy for kind of too long. 41:59.206 --> 42:06.713 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's like yelling at Sandra Bullock, but I thought he was playing it quite well. 42:06.753 --> 42:08.814 [SPEAKER_00]: Like giving really acting his ass off, 42:09.635 --> 42:14.416 [SPEAKER_00]: in what was, like, probably on the page, kind of obviously an absurd character. 42:14.496 --> 42:37.862 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because that was really also classic, very convenient, villain giving, just ridiculously long monologue that they're so locked into that they don't notice the protagonist, like, making eyes like someone between them, like doing a bunch of shit and now the things, even though they're looking right at, though. 42:38.832 --> 42:41.874 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, yeah, it was absurd. 42:41.934 --> 42:49.897 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean the whole climactic sequence was really, again, it was like two Harry Potter and not like practical magic enough. 42:49.957 --> 42:50.357 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 42:51.918 --> 42:55.820 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was an annoying that was just annoying of it. 42:57.001 --> 43:01.543 [SPEAKER_01]: I think it was like not not to harp on this like generational thing, but 43:02.904 --> 43:21.806 [SPEAKER_01]: It's hard not to when it's like, there is just like the older group of actors, and then there's the younger actors, and the difference is just so stark, and that it's like, when it's Sandra Bullock and Nicole Kidman, I feel like you, you notice especially how much like, 43:23.839 --> 43:38.462 [SPEAKER_01]: The script is horrible, but when they're acting, when they're in character, there are all these little moments, and there's little inflections, and there's little things that make the character feel fuller. 43:39.443 --> 43:42.023 [SPEAKER_01]: And none of the younger actors do that. 43:42.363 --> 43:44.104 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think they know how to do that. 43:44.444 --> 43:50.425 [SPEAKER_01]: They just say they act the words, but they don't know how to do those little moments 43:55.086 --> 43:55.566 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 43:55.666 --> 44:02.908 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they also didn't feel like they were given much space to do that. 44:03.508 --> 44:12.591 [SPEAKER_00]: I guess this, you know, the filmmakers, I'm sure knew that this is the Sandra Bullock Nicole Kidman movie and like everyone else's decoration is something to agree. 44:13.231 --> 44:20.113 [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, even in the few scenes, the sisters get together, it just doesn't feel 44:21.735 --> 44:24.207 [SPEAKER_00]: The same and it's kind of an unfair 44:26.096 --> 44:45.426 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, comparison to be honest because, like, I think Standard Bullock and Nicole Kidman were in their mid 30s when they made the first practical magic and these are like 25, 27 year olds who like are just not that deep and they're craft of acting and I guess, but I mean, like, really, Kingsman doing it a long time. 44:45.526 --> 44:45.966 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know. 44:46.026 --> 44:49.388 [SPEAKER_00]: I just, I just don't know how skilled you get as a child. 44:49.628 --> 44:50.248 [SPEAKER_00]: I maybe I'm wrong. 44:51.329 --> 44:53.630 [SPEAKER_01]: You and I was really like, because I was like, 44:54.570 --> 44:59.516 [SPEAKER_01]: I was trying to think of like, can I think of anyone specific I would have preferred on these roles? 45:00.497 --> 45:02.559 [SPEAKER_01]: And I could think of one. 45:05.153 --> 45:13.237 [SPEAKER_01]: But I think they would have had to make it so that the brunette daughter is the one with the Joey King role. 45:14.598 --> 45:17.239 [SPEAKER_01]: Because I think that this girl would look kind of weird with red hair. 45:18.039 --> 45:21.981 [SPEAKER_01]: But you didn't watch Sterling Point, did you? 45:22.682 --> 45:22.882 [SPEAKER_01]: No. 45:23.422 --> 45:24.943 [SPEAKER_01]: But I can Google anybody. 45:25.203 --> 45:27.604 [SPEAKER_01]: The main girl in Sterling Point. 45:29.030 --> 45:52.853 [SPEAKER_01]: I thought was so good, because she's like, she's really beautiful, but has the charm of those like, that those 90s beautiful actresses captured so well, where somehow them being beautiful doesn't make them like sort of like untouchable, 45:54.651 --> 45:56.512 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, they're still a charm. 45:56.592 --> 46:01.235 [SPEAKER_01]: They're still a sort of grounded charm and comedy to them. 46:01.255 --> 46:03.176 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 46:03.196 --> 46:09.460 [SPEAKER_01]: And I think she is good at those these little character quirks and moments and stuff. 46:09.740 --> 46:16.084 [SPEAKER_01]: And so I'm like, I would have rather seen like her as the as the lead young person. 46:16.805 --> 46:17.445 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 46:19.843 --> 46:26.406 [SPEAKER_00]: I haven't seen her, so in anything, but I looked at pictures of her and she's very pretty and I get what you mean about the red hair. 46:30.888 --> 46:42.472 [SPEAKER_01]: I still think Evan Rachel would have been the most sure if they were, if they were doing what they should have done and just let the daughters be the age they should be. 46:42.492 --> 46:43.413 [SPEAKER_01]: Totally. 46:43.473 --> 46:44.653 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 46:48.735 --> 46:53.536 [SPEAKER_01]: Someone was saying, and I'm like, I don't, I don't think this, although, okay, I don't know. 46:53.596 --> 46:57.557 [SPEAKER_01]: Someone was like, maybe they didn't, there's two things that could be. 46:58.037 --> 47:03.258 [SPEAKER_01]: One, they're like, we want to appeal the teenagers, and then you see young girls like them, you know, whatever. 47:05.059 --> 47:09.300 [SPEAKER_01]: So it could just be like normal ages, unlike that. 47:09.640 --> 47:13.821 [SPEAKER_01]: And then some people were like actresses like Sandra Bullock and Nicole, 47:19.003 --> 47:22.925 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, which, I'm sure there's a little of both of them. 47:22.945 --> 47:46.883 [SPEAKER_00]: But Nicole Kidman was Alexander Skarskars, Mom and the Northman, and I have read that the director was like, yeah, bringing Evan Rachel Woodback wasn't an option because in this story, the kids are college age, okay, and that's just all it is, and so like, because I think Evan Rachel Wood posted that she was sad, she wasn't invited to come back. 47:48.765 --> 48:01.783 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, but I'm sure like Colombe and Colombe also a little bit of that stuff is like brewing in there, but I think the main thing is that like, if they're following this book, then that's what happens in this book. 48:01.823 --> 48:03.165 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, you have to be college hours. 48:07.905 --> 48:16.571 [SPEAKER_01]: It's not really possible to talk about this movie without too some extent acknowledging what's going on with everyone's face. 48:16.851 --> 48:17.071 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. 48:17.612 --> 48:17.852 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 48:19.067 --> 48:22.709 [SPEAKER_01]: It's just so many close ups and stuff. 48:22.869 --> 48:31.554 [SPEAKER_01]: And for some reason, I have some sort of blindness to Nicole Kidman's work where it's never once bothered me. 48:32.915 --> 48:36.617 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, other people seem to really know to sit and they're like, she can't move her face. 48:36.677 --> 48:37.778 [SPEAKER_01]: It really bothers other people. 48:37.798 --> 48:41.740 [SPEAKER_01]: For some reason, Nicole Kidman's work is never once bothered me. 48:42.460 --> 48:44.922 [SPEAKER_01]: But Sandra Bullock's I was like, we aren't, 48:45.702 --> 48:49.485 [SPEAKER_01]: deep into late Michael Jackson territory with this face. 48:50.406 --> 49:06.477 [SPEAKER_00]: It's just for both of them it really bothers me and I am I'm coming from a place of like no ill will or judgment towards that or no because but I'm but I am wondering like having seen this movie 49:07.638 --> 49:32.634 [SPEAKER_00]: if this is going to be looked back on as maybe like an inflection point for the industry of actors like that like this was kind of strange to a too much of a degree and that's like the fact that they can't that it's completely frozen and that they have tiny rock hard bodies and then their faces are completely frozen it's just like 49:33.895 --> 49:45.161 [SPEAKER_00]: Not even kind of fun to look at no it's really disturbing and frustrating because these are like again I really look up to Sandra Bullock. 49:45.202 --> 49:54.227 [SPEAKER_00]: I think that she's like so funny and so charming, and I'm like sad to see that this is sort of what she's just said I think that's the thing. 49:54.307 --> 49:56.188 [SPEAKER_01]: It's so sad that it's like 49:57.610 --> 50:25.833 [SPEAKER_01]: they you look so just uncanny and like bizarre and not like any human face his naturally ever looked and it's like this can't possibly be better than like aging and I know it's not their fault that's the thing I fully am like oh it's not their fault at all because it's like yeah you're treated like shit if you age even kind of naturally in Hollywood but like I do hope that it can just get to a point where it's like 50:27.385 --> 50:29.427 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, well, this is the alternative. 50:29.467 --> 50:30.869 [SPEAKER_01]: Do you like the alternative? 50:31.830 --> 50:37.575 [SPEAKER_00]: And like, you know, I didn't get the sense Diane Weast has done that much. 50:37.636 --> 50:41.860 [SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, I think everybody's done a little here, but like, 50:43.667 --> 50:49.090 [SPEAKER_00]: She had a facial structure that made me feel like, perhaps this is naturally how the face fell, right? 50:49.750 --> 50:52.052 [SPEAKER_00]: She's also like looking at her so much more. 50:53.652 --> 50:55.714 [SPEAKER_01]: She's also just like a very cute. 50:56.134 --> 50:59.476 [SPEAKER_01]: She's like her voice, her face. 50:59.536 --> 51:02.257 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, she's just a very cute person. 51:03.037 --> 51:09.341 [SPEAKER_00]: But then it's in such stark contrast with people who are older than her, like stalker chaining. 51:11.362 --> 51:14.823 [SPEAKER_00]: that stalker chaining in Sandra Bullock had like kind of a similar face. 51:14.983 --> 51:15.584 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 51:15.704 --> 51:16.464 [SPEAKER_01]: In a lot of ways. 51:16.704 --> 51:21.126 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't it's just like I again like don't in a lot of ways. 51:21.166 --> 51:33.352 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want this to be like main conversation about the movie that like happens in culture, but it is really disturbing and frustrating because I'm not even viewing this as like 51:35.262 --> 51:39.765 [SPEAKER_00]: anything more than like mutilation, certain degree. 51:41.305 --> 51:43.567 [SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know. 51:43.687 --> 51:55.654 [SPEAKER_00]: It also like, I mean, to be honest, just on a practical level, it creates a troubling, like continuity, uncanny valley situation between the two moving. 51:55.674 --> 51:56.174 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 51:58.455 --> 52:09.898 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, and then it's such a stark contrast with the younger actors who like I'm sure no Joey King is like no stranger to it as well I have no idea what to think about Maisie Williams. 52:09.938 --> 52:11.159 [SPEAKER_00]: I just think she looks like a lady. 52:11.239 --> 52:12.219 [SPEAKER_00]: I knew in high school. 52:12.259 --> 52:12.739 [SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean? 52:16.140 --> 52:24.543 [SPEAKER_00]: But in a lot of ways I like looking at her more because she she was recognizable to me as a person that would exist in my life That would work at the hospital that would be so coldly 52:25.663 --> 52:51.555 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't know that that is a thing about all the plastic surgery is it's like now in all these movies It's like oh, okay, so is it is it in world that she that this normal woman just got like Millions of dollars worth of surgery for some reason or we're just pretending that that's how a person could possibly age Yeah, I don't know it's it is just a thing because it gets to a certain point with a lot of them where it's like 52:52.555 --> 53:00.141 [SPEAKER_01]: At a certain age, and a certain amount of work, you don't even, it's not even really helping you look younger. 53:00.522 --> 53:03.144 [SPEAKER_01]: You're looking your age just weird. 53:04.900 --> 53:11.023 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, right, and like, Nicole Kidman someone that doesn't seem to shy away from playing her age also, yeah. 53:11.063 --> 53:15.705 [SPEAKER_00]: Which I think is like, like, you know, it's certainly an aesthetic choice. 53:15.785 --> 53:19.727 [SPEAKER_00]: Also, if you choose to do characters then don't emotor that part of the character. 53:20.048 --> 53:22.209 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I think Jennifer Coolidge did this for a long time. 53:22.609 --> 53:28.212 [SPEAKER_00]: The character she played for a long time, were characters that had a lot of work done, and then that was like part of the story. 53:29.112 --> 53:56.540 [SPEAKER_00]: that's certainly an option if you want to be like a character actor that can lean into that and I don't think that's it's not uninteresting but like with Nicole Kidman's work particularly I have noticed it for like the last 10 years because there's a certain point I was like this is a 50 year old like what do you mean yeah but also you know it like the way it miss shapes 53:57.998 --> 53:58.618 [SPEAKER_00]: the face. 53:59.819 --> 54:22.828 [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like what I actually really start to notice is like that then these like strategic sort of like shaggy hair choices have to get made to kind of like obscure it a little bit and it just like it's a snowball of like this is too much too much as going on here and now this is all I'm thinking about and we wish them the best but yeah yikes. 54:23.428 --> 54:30.790 [SPEAKER_01]: I wish that Nicole Kidman had, I wish her hair color had been more that same like deep copper as the first movie. 54:31.370 --> 54:31.610 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 54:31.890 --> 54:33.891 [SPEAKER_01]: And I kind of wish she had bangs. 54:34.391 --> 54:41.232 [SPEAKER_01]: But it's like, I do feel like actresses this age are like, they are obsessed with like having a long beach waves. 54:41.952 --> 54:42.413 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. 54:43.493 --> 54:44.013 [SPEAKER_01]: Lace. 54:46.033 --> 54:48.154 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, and maybe that's a little bit of, 54:49.990 --> 54:51.931 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean, there's a lot of stuff that goes into that. 54:51.951 --> 54:56.295 [SPEAKER_00]: And I guess that's something I maybe can't speculate on, because I'm not there yet. 54:56.315 --> 54:57.656 [SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know what you would be. 54:58.656 --> 55:08.964 [SPEAKER_00]: Like part of it is I would assume, because your hair texture changes that it is a little bit, again, this is fully, I'm just kind of guessing here. 55:09.644 --> 55:11.645 [SPEAKER_00]: There's a little bit of a status symbol, right? 55:11.706 --> 55:18.250 [SPEAKER_00]: If you're able to have like long, healthy looking hair, even though it's wigs or whatever it is. 55:19.771 --> 55:23.212 [SPEAKER_01]: And I like Nicole Kidman in long full hair. 55:24.012 --> 55:27.213 [SPEAKER_01]: I just feel like it's like, why are we so obsessed with the beach waves? 55:27.773 --> 55:28.293 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 55:28.493 --> 55:30.834 [SPEAKER_01]: Why does everything have to be like crimped? 55:31.774 --> 55:37.435 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, in seizure book, I think has a really, like, has had a specific style. 55:37.455 --> 55:40.556 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, almost like a signature hair. 55:40.976 --> 55:46.638 [SPEAKER_00]: And this always existed on her for the most part with the exception of the speed years where she had the little, the little bob. 55:48.498 --> 56:06.893 [SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know, but it is just like, I don't envy actresses that are that age because I think culture is changing faster than they can react to and they were following how it was changing 10 years ago. 56:08.935 --> 56:13.258 [SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know, they're just like sort of in an impossible position and I don't fault them for it. 56:13.338 --> 56:17.682 [SPEAKER_00]: But no, because I do think this is going to be a moment that we all look back on. 56:18.262 --> 56:25.644 [SPEAKER_01]: I think there is this really fucked up thing where it's like your praised for it until it gets to a point. 56:26.004 --> 56:32.485 [SPEAKER_01]: Like if like people love when an actress keeps getting plastic surgery, until they don't like how it looks anymore. 56:33.166 --> 56:39.427 [SPEAKER_01]: And then they're like, boo, too much plastic surgery and it's like, well they've been getting tons of plastic surgery for years. 56:39.727 --> 56:44.448 [SPEAKER_01]: And all you did was praise how well they're naturally aging. 56:48.889 --> 56:53.010 [SPEAKER_00]: Right, but it's like a really specific type of makeup that takes hours. 56:53.090 --> 57:04.632 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but yeah, it's Yeah, it was too long story was bad. 57:05.152 --> 57:09.273 [SPEAKER_00]: They looked weird Yeah, we covered all of our grievances. 57:09.333 --> 57:15.035 [SPEAKER_01]: There was a certain point where I was like How do we have 45 minutes of this laugh like 57:17.975 --> 57:34.360 [SPEAKER_00]: So in the wedding sequence, I had to point out something that was very funny was like you see they're going through the wedding and it's like oh it's so fun and everyone's dancing and then she goes to Lee Pays and brings him a drink and kisses him and then leaves him at the end. 57:34.380 --> 57:35.801 [SPEAKER_00]: That was at the gussie. 57:36.301 --> 57:42.543 [SPEAKER_01]: So funny because I kept expecting him to be at the wedding and then I was like well 57:43.885 --> 58:09.281 [SPEAKER_01]: He would probably be like next to his girlfriend at the home when I know if he's not there Okay, are we gonna pan over on the crowd and then it's like no He's been made to wait a loan in a dark corner of the whole wedding and he has to stay there It was like why can't he Don't swim everybody When she walked away, I was just like wait Is he like not allowed? 58:09.361 --> 58:10.722 [SPEAKER_01]: He's not around the wedding 58:11.682 --> 58:35.841 [SPEAKER_01]: Did they like not have him, you know what I mean when they're shooting the wedding sequence or something it was so weird It was like they clearly did that just because they wanted it to be like a little like and guess what you didn't think he was here But he's here too and it's like I knew he was gonna be here the whole time I just thought it was weird that he wasn't in the crowd and now this is a way weird 58:36.762 --> 58:38.243 [SPEAKER_00]: This is way, we are there. 58:39.144 --> 58:41.666 [SPEAKER_01]: It's also funny when they kissed in that scene. 58:42.627 --> 58:47.792 [SPEAKER_01]: I thought there was so much more chemistry when they were just like clasping hands at the pub. 58:48.452 --> 58:50.354 [SPEAKER_01]: And then the kiss was very chased. 58:51.751 --> 58:53.693 [SPEAKER_01]: I felt like he looked like a nice kisser. 58:53.713 --> 58:57.176 [SPEAKER_01]: I know, look, I think he looks like a nice kisser. 58:57.316 --> 58:59.057 [SPEAKER_01]: I just wasn't seeing the passion. 58:59.818 --> 59:03.461 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, when they were... Well, we were... Well, we were... 59:03.641 --> 59:11.908 [SPEAKER_01]: When they were in tangling hands, I was like, no, that's something I'd like to get into. 59:11.928 --> 59:14.270 [SPEAKER_01]: That's kind of it. 59:14.290 --> 59:16.231 [SPEAKER_00]: No, that's something I've interested in. 59:18.573 --> 59:23.675 [SPEAKER_01]: It was really kind of stalker-chanting to kill herself for those girls. 59:24.975 --> 59:27.696 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that was like back to old practical magic stuff. 59:27.777 --> 59:29.617 [SPEAKER_00]: It was like dark and weird. 59:29.637 --> 59:32.058 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like that was very generous of her. 59:32.118 --> 59:34.679 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like, I do think that was in this circumstance. 59:35.379 --> 59:37.100 [SPEAKER_01]: I do think that was the right thing to do. 59:37.120 --> 59:38.340 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, of course. 59:38.761 --> 59:44.783 [SPEAKER_01]: But that was really nice of her and I just, I hope they are appreciated it. 59:46.683 --> 59:47.725 [SPEAKER_00]: I hope they appreciated it. 59:47.905 --> 59:52.931 [SPEAKER_01]: When this is hurling walking into the lake and it's like, damn, you're just gonna go out. 59:53.292 --> 59:56.336 [SPEAKER_01]: You got a lot of things in your pockets, that's a hard debt. 59:57.056 --> 59:57.437 [SPEAKER_01]: That sucks. 59:59.438 --> 01:00:02.900 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, they're witches though, so they float into a thousand butterflies. 01:00:03.020 --> 01:00:08.382 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah, that's your every time they showed a death that was like, oh, all right, I guess. 01:00:09.703 --> 01:00:11.624 [SPEAKER_01]: Actually, she turned into confetti. 01:00:13.204 --> 01:00:13.925 [SPEAKER_00]: It's nice. 01:00:14.065 --> 01:00:19.807 [SPEAKER_01]: I saw, yeah, it was um, but yeah, that was really nice of her. 01:00:19.907 --> 01:00:22.609 [SPEAKER_01]: She had what two lines the whole movie. 01:00:25.262 --> 01:00:27.003 [SPEAKER_01]: Glad they were able to get that book open. 01:00:27.063 --> 01:00:29.724 [SPEAKER_01]: I guess fuck that first Owens. 01:00:30.104 --> 01:00:31.284 [SPEAKER_00]: What a bitch. 01:00:32.304 --> 01:00:39.667 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, and then this is also dark that Am I to am I understanding the ending correctly that that first Owens? 01:00:41.550 --> 01:00:50.338 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it was dark that essentially she had to have a child from rape, right? 01:00:50.398 --> 01:00:51.640 [SPEAKER_00]: And Lee Pace says that. 01:00:52.640 --> 01:00:56.544 [SPEAKER_00]: She has that child and then the curse that she creates. 01:01:02.704 --> 01:01:09.887 [SPEAKER_00]: is that in order to open those pages of that book, you have to end that child's bloodline. 01:01:10.887 --> 01:01:11.867 [SPEAKER_01]: Was that it? 01:01:12.428 --> 01:01:24.372 [SPEAKER_00]: Instead of what I was taking from it, because she's like, the only way that book opened is if they destroyed that guy, because I was the last of his bloodline from the rapist guy. 01:01:24.592 --> 01:01:40.733 [SPEAKER_01]: But then I was, okay, maybe because then I was confused because I thought that the one who made the curse was the legitimate daughter of that woman who was burned at the stake and had the baby. 01:01:41.693 --> 01:01:52.596 [SPEAKER_00]: And so Zenn is not curse maker but then the opening the pages of the how to undo the curse right they had to destroy that guy to open those pages. 01:01:53.716 --> 01:01:54.136 [SPEAKER_00]: Gosh. 01:01:55.456 --> 01:01:56.977 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean this is stupid. 01:01:57.137 --> 01:02:00.657 [SPEAKER_00]: This is something that maybe they should have explained better. 01:02:00.677 --> 01:02:02.858 [SPEAKER_00]: This sucks. 01:02:02.958 --> 01:02:05.139 [SPEAKER_00]: But that is what I think was happening there. 01:02:12.773 --> 01:02:17.877 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, you know, uh, Nicole Kidman is the more like fun party girl one. 01:02:18.358 --> 01:02:22.421 [SPEAKER_01]: But we've given Sandra Bullock two husbands. 01:02:23.221 --> 01:02:26.904 [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe a Lee Pace could have been Nicole Kidman's love interest for once. 01:02:27.425 --> 01:02:35.211 [SPEAKER_00]: I thought that too because Nicole Kidman's, like the the child version of Gilly, says I can't wait to fall in love. 01:02:35.231 --> 01:02:41.356 [SPEAKER_00]: And then the only thing you see her do is like date a bunch of dirt bags that she doesn't 01:02:44.405 --> 01:02:44.786 [SPEAKER_00]: What? 01:02:45.066 --> 01:02:46.328 [SPEAKER_00]: Why can't she like? 01:02:46.508 --> 01:02:49.432 [SPEAKER_01]: Why does she say that we're full of get like a third one like? 01:02:49.492 --> 01:02:50.433 [SPEAKER_01]: Why can't we get? 01:02:52.236 --> 01:02:52.777 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know. 01:02:52.817 --> 01:02:55.640 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like what because she's because she's a slut. 01:02:55.721 --> 01:02:57.203 [SPEAKER_01]: She's not allowed to fall in love. 01:02:57.223 --> 01:02:58.104 [SPEAKER_01]: That's fucked up. 01:02:58.965 --> 01:02:59.926 [SPEAKER_01]: That's fucked up. 01:03:00.627 --> 01:03:14.773 [SPEAKER_01]: What the beautiful slot fall in love with Lee Pays who he links to also seems like a beautiful slot in this oh, yeah I don't really have any more observations about this movie. 01:03:15.253 --> 01:03:18.434 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I had I do Oh, I have go on. 01:03:18.855 --> 01:03:22.596 [SPEAKER_01]: I hated that fucking umbrella ending oh Yeah 01:03:31.175 --> 01:03:40.293 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, legacy sequels always do this like thing where they're like speed running a fan service checklist and that is like 01:03:42.433 --> 01:03:46.955 [SPEAKER_00]: That is what the jumping off the roof thing felt like to me. 01:03:47.176 --> 01:03:52.598 [SPEAKER_01]: I do the shoes change, because that happened to be on the first one, right? 01:03:52.919 --> 01:04:02.304 [SPEAKER_00]: Do the shoes change in the first one as well, but it's not quite as like it's not the focal point, but they show it for like a second. 01:04:02.324 --> 01:04:04.405 [SPEAKER_00]: The shoes and the little socks change. 01:04:05.205 --> 01:04:06.166 [SPEAKER_01]: I guess it was like, 01:04:07.470 --> 01:04:33.164 [SPEAKER_01]: Part of what made this movie so long that I felt like could have been cut was there were so many scenes where I was just noticing how much back and forth there was about something where like half of it was unnecessary and with this it's like I've been looking forward to this we're gonna do this didada we're doing the thing are you ready for the thing we're doing the thing and then it's just like bloop and then everyone claps 01:04:38.087 --> 01:04:40.810 [SPEAKER_00]: But then that happens on Halloween in the first one. 01:04:40.830 --> 01:04:43.133 [SPEAKER_00]: So her wedding is on Halloween. 01:04:43.433 --> 01:04:46.077 [SPEAKER_00]: Is that what I'm interested in? 01:04:46.097 --> 01:04:53.926 [SPEAKER_01]: I really hate in movies when there's something, and then in movies, it's just like, and then everyone clapped for them. 01:04:55.868 --> 01:05:16.827 [SPEAKER_00]: It is a pet peeve of mine like in the first one at least it made sense because they everyone's been kind of like a bitch to them right everyone hated them And then like what solves the problem in the end or like part of what solves the problem in the end is the phone tree thing where they're like and she had met she comes out right as a witch and 01:05:17.748 --> 01:05:37.215 [SPEAKER_00]: the power of small town gossip is what saves everybody because then they show the other women being like so you wouldn't believe her ex-boyfriend what a nightmare and like that so it's sort of like what saves everybody is how much women in small towns and gossip and are down to help if they get the tea 01:05:39.376 --> 01:05:46.720 [SPEAKER_00]: And so the clapping then makes sense because they've come together, but there was nothing, even remotely like that in this movie. 01:05:46.740 --> 01:05:55.284 [SPEAKER_01]: This one, it's truly just like, wow, we're clapping because that was so impressive and they're so cool and that was so awesome and so we're all applauding. 01:05:57.081 --> 01:06:18.850 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, I guess they're wedding attendees so they're like we're clapping because we're at a wedding and every so often you have to clap with the weddings Oh, I also another thing that really was just like what they were I was like this is just a perfect encapsulation of how sloppy this movie is is like first there's a thing where The daughter Kylie Um, like 01:06:19.850 --> 01:06:42.187 [SPEAKER_01]: Touches the book and then sees a vision and then does some sketches really impressively really quickly and then it's it's the phone booth And then when she takes the bus to the town, we see the phone booth From the vision you would think maybe that's important or something and then we don't even get a shot of her seeing the phone booth 01:06:43.832 --> 01:06:44.713 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 01:06:44.733 --> 01:06:50.455 [SPEAKER_00]: Also, her ancestor is left that town in 1600s. 01:06:51.836 --> 01:06:59.200 [SPEAKER_00]: So this is the phone booth of her ancestors, like it was just like this, this was the sort of stuff where it was like, 01:07:00.200 --> 01:07:07.207 [SPEAKER_00]: The people making this movie don't care about it and they think we're stupid and they just want to They just want would like our money. 01:07:07.227 --> 01:07:22.301 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like the these were the moments where I was like this is a cash grab They think I'm a fucking idiot and I'm not gonna care and I do care I care that you put 10 minutes of thought into why a phone booth would make any sense It was so absurd. 01:07:22.341 --> 01:07:23.362 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like me off so bad 01:07:24.022 --> 01:07:30.806 [SPEAKER_01]: You couldn't get one shot of her like seeing the fucking phone booth and being like, oh, this is the town from my vision. 01:07:31.486 --> 01:07:33.787 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, she's just like, whoa, I'm here. 01:07:33.807 --> 01:07:36.368 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, here I am sitting on a bench. 01:07:38.289 --> 01:07:41.031 [SPEAKER_01]: No, it was horrible, but no, I mean, yeah. 01:07:42.237 --> 01:07:47.966 [SPEAKER_01]: Sandra Bullock and Nicole Kidman, that chemistry was the only thing that made it enjoyable. 01:07:48.267 --> 01:07:56.900 [SPEAKER_01]: Was the scenes where it was the two of them just like when they were just being sisters that they're really good to get there. 01:07:57.645 --> 01:07:58.625 [SPEAKER_00]: They really are good together. 01:07:58.645 --> 01:08:07.249 [SPEAKER_00]: And I highly recommend any interview with the two of them, because they are so funny and giddy and just like, they just like, these women just like each other. 01:08:07.269 --> 01:08:07.549 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 01:08:07.629 --> 01:08:10.431 [SPEAKER_00]: It's a very fun to watch that dynamic play. 01:08:10.451 --> 01:08:10.851 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 01:08:11.471 --> 01:08:14.973 [SPEAKER_01]: No, it's like, I will watch some because that sounds fun. 01:08:15.093 --> 01:08:20.715 [SPEAKER_01]: Because I'm like, ooh, that energy without the context of this horrible movie around it. 01:08:21.215 --> 01:08:21.655 [SPEAKER_01]: Cool. 01:08:22.556 --> 01:08:27.018 [SPEAKER_00]: I also watched a, I watched a today interview with Lee Pace. 01:08:29.083 --> 01:08:30.104 [SPEAKER_00]: Don't watch that one. 01:08:30.224 --> 01:08:30.804 [SPEAKER_00]: Why? 01:08:31.224 --> 01:08:45.232 [SPEAKER_00]: The questions are bad, which I've never watched the today show, like probably not since I was 15 years old or something, but the questions were just very like, oh, like, what do you, do you know? 01:08:45.512 --> 01:08:47.273 [SPEAKER_00]: What is, what do you, which is mean to you? 01:08:47.573 --> 01:08:49.354 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, what are you like being a fan of babies? 01:08:49.374 --> 01:08:54.036 [SPEAKER_00]: Like the questions were so bad that I was like, could I be an interviewer on the today show? 01:08:54.076 --> 01:08:56.658 [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like I could, but then, 01:08:59.990 --> 01:09:16.556 [SPEAKER_00]: doesn't, clearly doesn't like being there is being like just handsome and nice and like uh-huh, fucks up the answer to one of the questions and goes, you know, when you think about which is like, you know, what do you think about that about like strong women? 01:09:17.056 --> 01:09:18.597 [SPEAKER_00]: And Lee Pays is like, well, you know, 01:09:19.757 --> 01:09:32.316 [SPEAKER_00]: I think that witchcraft and witch stuff, like, it does make me think about, like, just how capable and strong women can be and, you know, you think of like a woman in your life, like, cooking an amazing meal. 01:09:36.759 --> 01:09:50.384 [SPEAKER_00]: And the interviewer goes, I can't help but notice that when you brought up something with me do well, you said they cook a meal and he was like, thank you for calling me out on that. 01:09:50.444 --> 01:09:51.525 [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't mean that way. 01:09:51.545 --> 01:09:57.367 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, he just said, I'm like, honey, you see his face where you're like, I fucked up. 01:09:57.907 --> 01:09:58.907 [SPEAKER_00]: I fucked up bad. 01:09:58.927 --> 01:10:02.089 [SPEAKER_00]: That's so funny. 01:10:06.478 --> 01:10:11.383 [SPEAKER_00]: In that moment, stopped watching the interview, it felt like I had walked in on some wooden addressing room. 01:10:11.483 --> 01:10:14.787 [SPEAKER_00]: Like I was like, oh, I shouldn't see this. 01:10:15.808 --> 01:10:19.912 [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for calling me out on that is so fucking funny. 01:10:21.114 --> 01:10:27.521 [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like it's, I get where he was probably going with cooking up potions, cooking a meal. 01:10:28.141 --> 01:10:36.104 [SPEAKER_01]: And also he probably forgot that that's like a stereotypical woman thing because like maybe his husband cooks for him or whatever. 01:10:36.545 --> 01:10:53.332 [SPEAKER_00]: I know I know this and he was like in his example he was like you know when someone cooks you like a beautiful amazing meal and you're like this is just chicken and lemon but how did you do this where it tastes so special and that's when the guy like pointed it out and was like oh no 01:10:54.272 --> 01:10:55.313 [SPEAKER_01]: hilarious. 01:10:55.993 --> 01:10:58.614 [SPEAKER_01]: No, my boy, you fucked up bad. 01:10:58.674 --> 01:11:02.836 [SPEAKER_01]: They'll never explain to like, is he just like naturally a witch? 01:11:03.517 --> 01:11:04.997 [SPEAKER_01]: What's his blood, whatever? 01:11:05.638 --> 01:11:09.600 [SPEAKER_01]: Anyways, I almost forgot, but you're not getting out of this. 01:11:10.700 --> 01:11:13.882 [SPEAKER_01]: I almost forgot to, we're talking popcorn buckets. 01:11:14.142 --> 01:11:16.584 [SPEAKER_01]: I couldn't help but notice them in line. 01:11:16.884 --> 01:11:26.650 [SPEAKER_01]: Popcorn buckets and drink cups, because when I was in line for my popcorn, I was noticing, I was noticing, and I was like, I wanna talk about these. 01:11:27.330 --> 01:11:27.811 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 01:11:29.772 --> 01:11:31.493 [SPEAKER_01]: Pasting a link in the chat. 01:11:32.974 --> 01:11:33.234 [UNKNOWN]: Boop. 01:11:33.995 --> 01:11:36.056 [SPEAKER_00]: Listen to this production, we're doing this. 01:11:36.196 --> 01:11:37.257 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, okay. 01:11:41.107 --> 01:11:44.090 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think you can get closer up if you go through it. 01:11:44.710 --> 01:11:45.191 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes. 01:11:45.511 --> 01:11:47.152 [SPEAKER_00]: And so where would you like to start? 01:11:47.713 --> 01:11:51.236 [SPEAKER_01]: I think we should start on the second page. 01:11:51.977 --> 01:11:52.437 [SPEAKER_00]: OK. 01:11:52.978 --> 01:11:55.880 [SPEAKER_01]: The candle, the candle, the candle is my favorite. 01:11:55.920 --> 01:11:58.903 [SPEAKER_01]: So this is a cup. 01:11:58.923 --> 01:11:59.603 [SPEAKER_01]: 23 ounces. 01:12:01.365 --> 01:12:01.845 [SPEAKER_01]: OK. 01:12:02.006 --> 01:12:02.806 [SPEAKER_01]: It's a candle. 01:12:02.986 --> 01:12:04.348 [SPEAKER_01]: The wick is the straw. 01:12:05.595 --> 01:12:06.637 [SPEAKER_00]: It's pretty cute. 01:12:06.737 --> 01:12:11.103 [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's, I think that's legitimately clever and good. 01:12:12.085 --> 01:12:13.767 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's a really clever one. 01:12:13.927 --> 01:12:17.813 [SPEAKER_00]: I also don't mind the silhouette popcorn bucket. 01:12:18.173 --> 01:12:18.955 [SPEAKER_00]: Beneath it. 01:12:20.418 --> 01:12:24.521 [SPEAKER_00]: It's pretty traditional, but I think that that is like fun. 01:12:25.101 --> 01:12:28.683 [SPEAKER_00]: Again, I couldn't imagine buying this, but no, no, I wouldn't have. 01:12:30.184 --> 01:12:35.007 [SPEAKER_01]: But it's not ugly, it's not. 01:12:36.408 --> 01:12:45.517 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's all trash, but it's, so these, so in this one, this says Regal, but I saw this cup at AMC. 01:12:45.597 --> 01:12:51.223 [SPEAKER_01]: That's what got me wanting to rate it was the candle that I saw at AMC because I think it's pretty good. 01:12:52.680 --> 01:13:01.788 [SPEAKER_00]: And this, yeah, I sort of wonder about, listen, if you're listening to this and you are in the industry and know about, like, how does it work with the popcorn buckets? 01:13:01.808 --> 01:13:04.511 [SPEAKER_00]: I'd actually love to know how it works. 01:13:04.591 --> 01:13:11.137 [SPEAKER_00]: Please email us, mediumliterategmail.com because like, I'm wondering, are these produced by the studio? 01:13:12.678 --> 01:13:22.647 [SPEAKER_00]: And then given to the movie theaters to sell, sometimes I feel like I see the movie theaters have like a back inventory of like too much of one of these. 01:13:22.707 --> 01:13:23.307 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 01:13:24.588 --> 01:13:25.489 [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm wondering. 01:13:25.549 --> 01:13:27.151 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm wondering what the economics are. 01:13:27.191 --> 01:13:30.053 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I would also be very curious about that. 01:13:30.113 --> 01:13:31.995 [SPEAKER_01]: And then we can move on to the next page. 01:13:32.835 --> 01:13:36.659 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, the cat cup has nothing to do with anything. 01:13:38.128 --> 01:13:39.569 [SPEAKER_00]: They just have a cat, right? 01:13:39.589 --> 01:13:49.738 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like, yeah, it's just like, yeah, which is, yeah, black cats and which is, it's like, this seems like something that they just made for general Halloween. 01:13:50.999 --> 01:13:55.422 [SPEAKER_00]: I think the obvious winner to me is the Margarita Blender Cup. 01:13:56.383 --> 01:13:56.783 [SPEAKER_00]: It's fun. 01:13:57.384 --> 01:13:57.804 [SPEAKER_00]: It's fun. 01:13:57.864 --> 01:13:58.445 [SPEAKER_00]: I like funny. 01:13:58.745 --> 01:14:08.470 [SPEAKER_01]: I still think the candle is my favorite, but I did see the Margarita Blender at AMC2, and I do think that is the most fun and creative. 01:14:09.550 --> 01:14:15.273 [SPEAKER_00]: I needed to see these with straws, cause I actually think I did see the Margarita Blender and he thought they were a silly... 01:14:16.794 --> 01:14:21.116 [SPEAKER_00]: I thought it was for popcorn, and I was like, this is an offensively small amount of popcorn. 01:14:21.176 --> 01:14:21.536 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 01:14:21.596 --> 01:14:28.100 [SPEAKER_00]: And I'd be like annoyed to spend $20 or whatever I think full with like 10 bites of popcorn. 01:14:28.440 --> 01:14:28.840 [SPEAKER_00]: Just me. 01:14:29.080 --> 01:14:31.842 [SPEAKER_01]: And it makes more sense as a drink thing, too. 01:14:32.242 --> 01:14:33.042 [SPEAKER_00]: Like it's huge. 01:14:33.062 --> 01:14:33.182 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 01:14:34.723 --> 01:14:36.043 [SPEAKER_00]: to have a liquid definitely. 01:14:37.124 --> 01:14:40.525 [SPEAKER_01]: The book popcorn tin is whatever. 01:14:41.125 --> 01:14:41.685 [SPEAKER_01]: It's fine. 01:14:42.246 --> 01:14:43.246 [SPEAKER_01]: It's just fine to me. 01:14:43.366 --> 01:14:49.748 [SPEAKER_01]: I think the book tin has become just kind of like an easy go-to for a lot of movies. 01:14:49.788 --> 01:14:55.070 [SPEAKER_01]: Like I think if there's any sort of book in movie, they're just like do the book popcorn tin. 01:14:56.390 --> 01:14:57.991 [SPEAKER_01]: They probably have the shape already. 01:14:58.011 --> 01:14:59.972 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you just have to add things to it. 01:15:00.212 --> 01:15:00.712 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, 01:15:01.472 --> 01:15:12.301 [SPEAKER_01]: And then next one is this is a margarita popcorn bucket, but it's a margarita glass. 01:15:13.808 --> 01:15:14.448 [SPEAKER_01]: I hate that. 01:15:14.568 --> 01:15:15.849 [SPEAKER_00]: That's just stupid. 01:15:15.869 --> 01:15:18.130 [SPEAKER_00]: That's just a plastic glass. 01:15:18.830 --> 01:15:22.612 [SPEAKER_00]: Also like the popcorn buckets that seem really small just kind of make me mad. 01:15:22.812 --> 01:15:26.193 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just like the popcorn matters more to me than the item. 01:15:27.273 --> 01:15:33.556 [SPEAKER_01]: I think a lot of places will just give you the popcorn bucket and then separately a large popcorn. 01:15:34.227 --> 01:15:35.188 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, okay. 01:15:35.208 --> 01:15:35.829 [SPEAKER_01]: Which makes me sad. 01:15:35.909 --> 01:15:36.349 [SPEAKER_01]: As they show it. 01:15:36.369 --> 01:15:39.192 [SPEAKER_01]: But then it's like, um, kind of a lot of stuff at a movie. 01:15:39.232 --> 01:15:39.672 [SPEAKER_01]: It is. 01:15:40.013 --> 01:15:48.501 [SPEAKER_01]: It's sort of like how they gave me my boxed glass at the rainforest cafe, not my actual glass that I drink out of. 01:15:49.142 --> 01:15:50.943 [SPEAKER_00]: But if you're not eating out of it, right? 01:15:50.983 --> 01:15:51.604 [SPEAKER_00]: So it's okay. 01:15:51.624 --> 01:15:54.727 [SPEAKER_00]: Say they give it to you in a box, you have something at the movie theater. 01:15:55.588 --> 01:15:58.271 [SPEAKER_00]: If you're not eating out of it, while watching the movie that it's for, 01:16:00.697 --> 01:16:01.998 [SPEAKER_00]: What are you doing with this? 01:16:02.098 --> 01:16:04.200 [SPEAKER_00]: You're, are you eating popcorn out of it at home? 01:16:04.240 --> 01:16:07.822 [SPEAKER_00]: Like I thought this was about the experience and how that is funny and it is. 01:16:08.343 --> 01:16:15.708 [SPEAKER_00]: It's sort of like, yeah, love and light to anyone who likes stuff like this, but to me, a little pathetic. 01:16:16.148 --> 01:16:20.972 [SPEAKER_01]: But also, I mean, they can't really put it right in it, right? 01:16:20.992 --> 01:16:23.073 [SPEAKER_01]: Because it's not like they're washing all of these. 01:16:23.113 --> 01:16:27.417 [SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, you can't be putting food in something that's just come straight from the factory or drink. 01:16:30.468 --> 01:16:30.869 [SPEAKER_01]: Right? 01:16:35.638 --> 01:16:42.110 [SPEAKER_00]: I actually, oh, because there are plastic food containers, I mean, are they produced food safe? 01:16:44.157 --> 01:16:49.961 [SPEAKER_00]: Again, if somebody knows more about how to form a culture, reach out, let us know. 01:16:50.321 --> 01:16:54.824 [SPEAKER_00]: I'd love someone in the industry who is maybe dealing with the production of these. 01:16:55.124 --> 01:17:01.669 [SPEAKER_00]: I'd also love a movie theater employee if you were a movie theater employee and you know have any thoughts about the popcorn buckets. 01:17:02.089 --> 01:17:06.052 [SPEAKER_00]: I would be happy to read your email on the podcast, medium literate at gmail.com. 01:17:06.072 --> 01:17:07.233 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm genuinely curious. 01:17:07.653 --> 01:17:10.115 [SPEAKER_01]: Or if it's a secret and we can't read it. 01:17:10.955 --> 01:17:14.437 [SPEAKER_01]: Tell us, and we'll just read it by ourselves secretly if it's a big secret. 01:17:14.517 --> 01:17:23.181 [SPEAKER_00]: If there's some sort of big conspiracy, and you feel free to tell me if it's a secret, and I'll just tell Emily, and then we'll just be the ones who know it. 01:17:24.142 --> 01:17:29.065 [SPEAKER_00]: But we'll never tell the audience, sorry, audience. 01:17:30.765 --> 01:17:36.028 [SPEAKER_00]: If we had popcorn buckets for the podcast, what would yours be? 01:17:36.108 --> 01:17:37.569 [SPEAKER_01]: What would the Monica theme do on being? 01:17:42.113 --> 01:17:44.217 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, you've really sprung this question on me. 01:17:44.237 --> 01:17:47.162 [SPEAKER_00]: I do. 01:17:47.783 --> 01:17:49.707 [SPEAKER_00]: If it's for the podcast specifically. 01:17:51.805 --> 01:18:09.517 [SPEAKER_00]: either like a big version of the DVD case for the fall because I bring it up so frequently or maybe my disco ball that I have behind me on camera, which actually that is an ice bucket that I just put a plant in. 01:18:09.557 --> 01:18:11.958 [SPEAKER_00]: Sorry to go. 01:18:12.399 --> 01:18:14.300 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just looking at my bear in the back. 01:18:14.920 --> 01:18:15.341 [SPEAKER_01]: See him? 01:18:15.781 --> 01:18:16.401 [SPEAKER_01]: See my bear. 01:18:16.842 --> 01:18:18.242 [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that he might make 01:18:20.257 --> 01:18:21.639 [SPEAKER_01]: a good drink cup. 01:18:22.761 --> 01:18:25.726 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, get the chains off coming out of his head. 01:18:25.746 --> 01:18:28.631 [SPEAKER_01]: No, he's seen his last chainsaw. 01:18:30.534 --> 01:18:32.176 [SPEAKER_00]: I also saw him sit, yes, it was fine. 01:18:33.872 --> 01:18:45.575 [SPEAKER_00]: Sure, I saw the uprising, which was also fine, and I saw hope which rocked, but But honestly listeners, I don't know if you've noticed, but I'm sniffling and have a cold today, and I'm sort of fighting for my life. 01:18:45.675 --> 01:18:56.758 [SPEAKER_00]: So Look us up on TikTok, and I'll talk more about how I'm feeling more Why I don't have much more in me today 01:18:57.178 --> 01:19:05.707 [SPEAKER_01]: So, please wish Monica a speedy cold recovery and thank fucking God she didn't get this cold when we were in Minnesota. 01:19:06.348 --> 01:19:08.410 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh man, that would have been a disaster. 01:19:08.430 --> 01:19:10.732 [SPEAKER_00]: I maybe got it there and brought it home. 01:19:11.413 --> 01:19:12.754 [SPEAKER_00]: You might have gotten it at the mall. 01:19:12.894 --> 01:19:14.916 [SPEAKER_01]: That seems like a place someone would get her cold. 01:19:15.874 --> 01:19:19.495 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there were a lot of open mouth coffers even in the rainforest cafe. 01:19:20.475 --> 01:19:27.677 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, which we didn't even get to talk about the mind, the market, the market was good. 01:19:27.797 --> 01:19:29.097 [SPEAKER_00]: It was really the roller coaster. 01:19:29.797 --> 01:19:31.277 [SPEAKER_01]: And I wrote the log flim as well. 01:19:31.798 --> 01:19:33.038 [SPEAKER_01]: And she wrote the log flim. 01:19:33.358 --> 01:19:35.218 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, thank you for listening. 01:19:35.258 --> 01:19:36.459 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, next week. 01:19:38.219 --> 01:19:42.160 [SPEAKER_00]: We're talking about Resident Evil and bad apples maybe. 01:19:43.230 --> 01:19:48.594 [SPEAKER_00]: Both of them we haven't talked about it, but but probably one or both. 01:19:48.874 --> 01:19:52.077 [SPEAKER_01]: I would say if it's one it is most likely Resident Evil. 01:19:52.837 --> 01:19:55.239 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, but we might also be talking about bad apples. 01:19:56.140 --> 01:19:58.602 [SPEAKER_00]: So see you guys at the movies. 01:19:58.822 --> 01:19:59.462 [SPEAKER_00]: See ya 01:20:04.166 --> 01:20:05.367 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, that was it. 01:20:05.427 --> 01:20:09.851 [SPEAKER_00]: That was our episode on Practical Magic and Practical Magic 2. 01:20:09.891 --> 01:20:14.255 [SPEAKER_00]: We sort of hit two birds with one stone across 30 years. 01:20:16.057 --> 01:20:22.722 [SPEAKER_00]: If you liked this episode, I would ask that you please copy the link wherever you were. 01:20:23.703 --> 01:20:38.364 [SPEAKER_00]: indulging in our content and share it with a friend, text it to someone, maybe a witch that you know, maybe someone who's considering a deep-plane facelift for $100,000, we have some advice for those people. 01:20:40.805 --> 01:20:47.227 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, you can follow us on Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, at medium-literate on all those places. 01:20:48.168 --> 01:20:53.469 [SPEAKER_00]: And next week, we will be covering resident evil with a possible side of bad apples. 01:20:53.870 --> 01:20:54.850 [SPEAKER_00]: So we'll see you then. 01:20:58.910 --> 01:21:02.598 [SPEAKER_00]: Median literature was created and produced by Monica Scott and Emily Fay. 01:21:03.139 --> 01:21:07.790 [SPEAKER_00]: Our theme music was composed by Christian Larson, and technical help is from Alex Luchin. 01:21:08.732 --> 01:21:11.658 [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you so much for listening and we will see you at the movies.