WEBVTT 00:00.031 --> 00:04.995 [SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to the Banswell Insiders, I am Adam Wanderer, joined by fanside of Demo Banside or Robert Murray to wrap the week. 00:05.015 --> 00:09.958 [SPEAKER_00]: Happy Trade Deadline week, I hope it treated you well, I hope you got everything that you wanted under your stocking. 00:10.538 --> 00:22.127 [SPEAKER_00]: Again, if you left Milk and Cookies average have passed and I hope you ate them enjoyed them and left you a long column on why the Dodgers and Haring Financial Advantage is giving them the edge in the Terri School of Chase and helping to ruin baseball, but those Dodgers are slumping. 00:22.287 --> 00:26.490 [SPEAKER_00]: Six game losing streak as we record this, we will see you on this show on Friday. 00:27.130 --> 00:37.514 [SPEAKER_00]: So, hey, maybe the Dodger's turn around, but for now, it is time to talk post-traid edline threats to potentially beat those slumping Dodgers and sleeping giants at the edges of the playoff race. 00:37.614 --> 00:42.095 [SPEAKER_00]: I've got some thoughts on teams that I think could actually make around the bottom of the A.O. 00:42.155 --> 00:43.916 [SPEAKER_00]: wildcard is completely wide open. 00:43.936 --> 00:51.758 [SPEAKER_00]: There's a clear team lurking that probably has the goods to get it done, but also do they just have the goods to straight up win their division anyway. 00:52.218 --> 00:53.339 [SPEAKER_00]: Nothing is settled. 00:53.919 --> 01:12.564 [SPEAKER_00]: far from done and dusted now as we head around the corner of the final 45-ish games of the season and it take me through what he's seeing post deadline expectations and how the moves will potentially affect these races is Robert Murray, Robert, longest week of the year, except for maybe the winter meetings, I guess those are worse, but are there going to happen we don't know? 01:12.664 --> 01:16.925 [SPEAKER_00]: So for now, it's the trade deadline week that takes that top spot and how are you surviving. 01:17.940 --> 01:18.660 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm pretty tired. 01:18.701 --> 01:19.481 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to lie. 01:19.781 --> 01:29.825 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm definitely better than I was even a couple days ago, but I've got vacation coming up, which is going to be incredible where I can disconnect and not be on my phone. 01:29.845 --> 01:34.767 [SPEAKER_01]: We kind of might be trying to confirm a little bit of news here before the show or during the show. 01:35.667 --> 01:38.789 [SPEAKER_01]: So hopefully that comes a fruition and we can drop that here. 01:39.609 --> 01:40.829 [SPEAKER_01]: But as it's good to be here with you. 01:40.989 --> 01:41.290 [SPEAKER_01]: It is a 01:42.550 --> 01:42.810 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know. 01:42.850 --> 01:43.991 [SPEAKER_01]: It's a pleasure to be here with you. 01:44.151 --> 01:44.691 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm Tanya. 01:44.711 --> 01:46.993 [SPEAKER_01]: We've got plenty of stuff to discuss. 01:47.673 --> 01:52.376 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm slurring my words, so you know that's what's going to be a good podcast, but let's get weird. 01:52.396 --> 01:53.257 [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe let's talk some ball. 01:53.277 --> 01:53.757 [SPEAKER_01]: You're doing it. 01:54.210 --> 01:54.510 [SPEAKER_00]: Good. 01:54.530 --> 01:56.531 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, yeah, hit that vacation to be nice. 01:56.711 --> 01:58.011 [SPEAKER_00]: I want one of those on the docket. 01:58.051 --> 02:03.513 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the closest I can get is I'm going to get you Steve and Maro, but that's never a vacation based on watching this offense play live. 02:03.714 --> 02:06.655 [SPEAKER_00]: So Garrett Colv, Chris Salon, old timer state. 02:06.675 --> 02:08.355 [SPEAKER_00]: That's what we call an old timer's matchup. 02:09.256 --> 02:09.836 [SPEAKER_00]: I am good. 02:09.896 --> 02:14.998 [SPEAKER_00]: If you are a baseball insider's watcher or this is your first time, you're here regularly, what have you? 02:15.258 --> 02:16.058 [SPEAKER_00]: We have a discord. 02:16.078 --> 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YouTube on your favorite podcast platform elsewhere. 02:55.881 --> 02:59.483 [SPEAKER_00]: We have done two straight years of shows that have ended with the Dodgers winning the World Series. 03:00.924 --> 03:07.527 [SPEAKER_00]: The first one was the Dodgers meeting the Yankees and MLBs preferred World Series and then the Dodgers just running them over. 03:08.374 --> 03:20.960 [SPEAKER_00]: playing big ball playing small ball do whatever they had to do to put pressure on the Yankees defense and it worked last year was the Dodgers barely edging the upstart blue jays in game seven And it took a lot to get there. 03:21.161 --> 03:35.868 [SPEAKER_00]: It took a max monthsy home run of the eighth in Miguel Rojas home run in the nine the crazy Andy Pahez He get her net as play IKF's toenail all this stuff Yacht Yoshi know we y'all a moto coming out of the bullpen and getting all a hundred curtain granted double play one of the most improbable 03:36.468 --> 03:53.084 [SPEAKER_00]: game 7's we've ever seen we will ever see but all this to say the Dodgers keep collecting star power but one of these world series wins it was just sort of a fade a complete tip your cap one of them it was much much harder they're back to back champions because of a hundred different crazy cascading events. 03:53.644 --> 03:55.665 [SPEAKER_00]: People are sort of saying, oh, this year's a wrap. 03:55.685 --> 03:56.546 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, we got a call. 03:56.566 --> 03:58.847 [SPEAKER_00]: And it's, they got school, they got Kyle Tucker. 03:58.867 --> 03:59.988 [SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be the Dodgers again. 04:00.508 --> 04:02.969 [SPEAKER_00]: That pitching is relying on a lot of injury bouncebacks. 04:03.450 --> 04:06.752 [SPEAKER_00]: That lineup from Kyle Tucker is not been a $60 million man this year. 04:06.832 --> 04:10.234 [SPEAKER_00]: So, you play in the Dodgers financial advantage for being able to real him in. 04:10.294 --> 04:12.735 [SPEAKER_00]: But he hasn't exactly done the requisite damage. 04:13.075 --> 04:14.316 [SPEAKER_00]: The full pen is emptying. 04:14.676 --> 04:16.237 [SPEAKER_00]: There are a lot again, Justin Roblesc. 04:16.257 --> 04:17.518 [SPEAKER_00]: He probably need to be getting big innings. 04:17.578 --> 04:18.138 [SPEAKER_00]: Roblesc is hockey. 04:18.158 --> 04:19.579 [SPEAKER_00]: He's going to be getting big innings out there. 04:23.321 --> 04:28.946 [SPEAKER_00]: But this feels like last year where you could convince last year I thought the brewers were going to give them a real chance. 04:29.266 --> 04:29.767 [SPEAKER_00]: They didn't. 04:30.327 --> 04:32.489 [SPEAKER_00]: You could convince me this year entering the playoffs. 04:33.130 --> 04:38.394 [SPEAKER_00]: That the brewers, that the cubs, that there, maybe a couple teams in the American League are going to have a real shot at this thing. 04:39.415 --> 04:40.456 [SPEAKER_00]: Robert, what about you? 04:40.476 --> 04:42.157 [SPEAKER_00]: The six game losing strength for the Dodgers? 04:42.838 --> 04:44.040 [SPEAKER_00]: Red Sox got three off him. 04:44.080 --> 04:45.082 [SPEAKER_00]: Cubs got three off him. 04:45.462 --> 04:47.145 [SPEAKER_00]: The Cubs series was incredibly exciting. 04:47.586 --> 04:49.849 [SPEAKER_00]: Sox series was kind of just a sock to put in their foot on them. 04:50.430 --> 04:54.857 [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, if you had to pick the three biggest threats to the Dodgers throne right now, who are they? 04:54.917 --> 04:57.001 [SPEAKER_00]: And how many of them are in that national league? 04:57.915 --> 05:01.719 [SPEAKER_01]: I would say two of them, maybe at this point, possibly three. 05:02.140 --> 05:06.624 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like the team that I'm still not sure about, depends on a few different things. 05:07.806 --> 05:09.587 [SPEAKER_01]: I'll fill it off you, it would be one of them. 05:09.808 --> 05:14.092 [SPEAKER_01]: But I would also look at, I think the biggest threat to the Dodgers is going to be the Milwaukee Brewers. 05:14.453 --> 05:18.197 [SPEAKER_01]: And they're a small marketing low revenue, 05:19.210 --> 05:26.973 [SPEAKER_01]: a very low payroll, but they're a team that is extremely pesky, and they are a very difficult opponent because they're so good on the base paths. 05:27.613 --> 05:28.673 [SPEAKER_01]: They put the ball in play. 05:29.153 --> 05:33.935 [SPEAKER_01]: The only issue I have with that team is do they have enough slug to keep up with the Dodgers. 05:34.885 --> 05:40.367 [SPEAKER_01]: how to expect those games against them to be relatively low scoring because both pitching staffs are so good. 05:40.428 --> 05:46.470 [SPEAKER_01]: But I think the brewers have a really good chance, especially with Mizorowski looking like how he has. 05:46.810 --> 05:48.771 [SPEAKER_01]: Kyle Harris, and he's got to figure out the cramping stuff. 05:48.791 --> 05:55.995 [SPEAKER_01]: Like having cramps in both calves, that can't happen, but when he's on the mound and actually healthy, he's phenomenal. 05:56.455 --> 06:01.297 [SPEAKER_01]: And the Dustin May trade, he was one of a few guys at the Invision internally being like, 06:01.737 --> 06:22.648 [SPEAKER_01]: True difference makers and a playoff rotation and I immediately after that trade is made I had someone who I really trust in ball of tell me that May is probably going to be a super human in Milwaukee So I would look at the burrs as possibly like a real serious threat and also getting the bull pound upgrades that they did with Jojo Romero and also Antonio Sanzatella We shouldn't discount those as well. 06:22.668 --> 06:25.110 [SPEAKER_01]: So the burrs immediately to me stand out 06:26.110 --> 06:35.054 [SPEAKER_01]: the Chicago Cubs to like the vibes in Chicago right now are really fun and PCA is definitely worthy of being in the MVP conversation. 06:35.074 --> 06:48.080 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know there's been some debate about that today but he's totally worthy and the rest of that roster is really really fun and they got the pitching like the pitching was a big priority for them for them at the deadline and they got clay homes. 06:48.620 --> 06:49.260 [SPEAKER_01]: Love that tray. 06:49.280 --> 06:50.961 [SPEAKER_01]: That was one of my favorites of the entire deadline. 06:50.981 --> 06:51.881 [SPEAKER_01]: I got Kevin Gosman 06:56.015 --> 07:03.896 [SPEAKER_01]: I continue to hear after the deadline was super coveted among a lot of different containing teams and that was a great trade for the Cubs getting him. 07:03.976 --> 07:17.879 [SPEAKER_01]: I know the the ballasteros giving him up was difficult for the Cubs and the angles really envisioned him as like an offense first catcher and as someone I think he really built around and he's got a lot of tools in his body so they're extremely happy about that one there for sure. 07:18.379 --> 07:22.380 [SPEAKER_01]: So I would say the Cubs definitely are worthy and we got to put the Boston Red 07:25.020 --> 07:40.549 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's remarkable the term we're on there and I wonder how Craig Brezel is feeling right now because he was public enemy Numerous Uno in that entire city of Boston and then he's got radio host apologizing to him during like mid-interview. 07:40.629 --> 07:48.174 [SPEAKER_01]: Like it's it's crazy and like yeah, I feel I'm happy for Craig Brezel because as I've been saying for a couple months now like 07:48.943 --> 07:51.964 [SPEAKER_01]: the movies made like a lot of them actually turned out to be relatively good. 07:52.004 --> 08:03.487 [SPEAKER_01]: I get it like he's not the best in terms of like public speaking and can kind of sound robotic at times, but if my GM is robotic and yet makes movies like this, I'm happy with that. 08:03.587 --> 08:08.628 [SPEAKER_01]: So good for Craig Breslow and I they've done this against all odds too. 08:08.668 --> 08:10.989 [SPEAKER_01]: Like they've gone what are they want? 08:14.550 --> 08:23.197 [SPEAKER_00]: 31 and five after yesterday's game, which was arguably the craziest of them all, where they erase a four nothing lead early. 08:23.257 --> 08:24.538 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, a race is very quickly. 08:24.558 --> 08:28.200 [SPEAKER_00]: It goes from, it was four nothing in the third, five, five in the fourth. 08:28.220 --> 08:37.347 [SPEAKER_00]: So we're not talking about a long term four nothing lead, but they go down seven, five, seven, six down to their last strike, tie that up, tie it up in the tenth in the 11th, in the 12th, win it in the 13th. 08:38.468 --> 09:00.871 [SPEAKER_00]: 31 and 5 puts them up against I've been doing the Red Sox stats this I mean I've been doing it for weeks but they that takes them there 25 their last 28 that puts them up against the 2017 Indians the 2013 Dodgers 2017 Dodgers did it the money ball a's did it now these are weirdly teams that did not win the world series 09:01.231 --> 09:03.592 [SPEAKER_00]: So it's not necessarily a guarantor. 09:03.672 --> 09:21.976 [SPEAKER_00]: I can't zip the Red Sox right from now immediately into the fall classic, but if you are looking at the and they have swept swept not one six series from first place teams this year, which hasn't been done since ever in the expansion era, no team in the expansion era has done that. 09:22.176 --> 09:22.396 [SPEAKER_00]: So, 09:23.556 --> 09:30.982 [SPEAKER_00]: I can't just like stamp them and say you're going to the world series and when you get there go ahead and you'll face the Dodgers because I can't stamp the Dodgers either. 09:31.122 --> 09:36.787 [SPEAKER_00]: But if you're watching the Red Sox and just saying fluke, you know, they'll cool down eventually. 09:37.067 --> 09:41.611 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, yes, they will not be 31 in 5 pace for the rest of the year. 09:42.171 --> 09:49.597 [SPEAKER_00]: But I would caution you against writing this off as a mid-Summer hot streak and saying, yeah, they'll be cool in September though and then we'll never hear from them again. 09:50.077 --> 10:07.617 [SPEAKER_00]: It seems very likely at this point that we will get a Red Sox raised ALDS, not CS based on the way that things are lining up, which is tough because you want that series to go 7 games, but also the winner of that's going to be in a great position to represent the American League. 10:08.378 --> 10:16.681 [SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, if you're just, if you're writing this office some fluke, because the lineup is greater than the sum of its parts, which it is. 10:17.201 --> 10:18.561 [SPEAKER_00]: I would tell you not to do that. 10:18.621 --> 10:20.162 [SPEAKER_00]: This is a baseball team. 10:20.862 --> 10:36.527 [SPEAKER_00]: And if they are as relentless as they were, yesterday, Thursday, August 6th, the finale of a regular season series that they'd already won where their starter range as far as was out after three innings, 10:37.588 --> 10:39.449 [SPEAKER_00]: Then what are they going to be like in October? 10:39.609 --> 10:43.632 [SPEAKER_00]: I just, they're not going to forget to be that aggressive when it's the playoff. 10:43.692 --> 10:45.574 [SPEAKER_00]: So I would just caution everybody who's writing them off. 10:45.934 --> 10:57.102 [SPEAKER_00]: They're like, if they can summon that gear for a random ass regular season game in a series, they've already won and don't need to sweep, what are they going to look like when the playoff lights are on? 10:57.722 --> 10:58.543 [SPEAKER_01]: No, I... 10:59.589 --> 11:07.354 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm super high on them and it's also truly going back to the playout series that you mentioned that possible ALDS against Red Sox and the Rays. 11:07.994 --> 11:13.338 [SPEAKER_01]: It kind of reminds me of a few years ago when the pod raise had that leading against the Dodgers. 11:13.378 --> 11:19.962 [SPEAKER_01]: It was two to one, best of five series and the Dodgers came flying back, the pod raise didn't score a run in the last two games. 11:20.902 --> 11:27.965 [SPEAKER_01]: After that series, the Dodgers knew the Padres were the best team that they placed, that they've faced, and that they would face in the entire postseason. 11:27.985 --> 11:34.607 [SPEAKER_01]: So like internally there, they were thinking, okay, we were probably going to end up winning the World Series, or at least going to the World Series, and who knows after that. 11:35.067 --> 11:42.790 [SPEAKER_01]: I wonder if whoever ends up coming out of that matchup on top there, ends up thinking the exact same thing, and has just added confidence there as well. 11:42.830 --> 11:48.592 [SPEAKER_01]: Again, it's like, I don't know, but it's that would make for a phenomenal series because the race, 11:49.552 --> 11:52.914 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the rays are just, they're always exceeding expectations. 11:52.934 --> 11:55.016 [SPEAKER_01]: They got the star power now, a junior came in arrow. 11:55.536 --> 12:05.462 [SPEAKER_01]: And then you have this Red Sox team that was once the biggest underdogs, or one of the big underdogs in the entire season after their start, fire in their manager, and then now they just go out as massive. 12:05.562 --> 12:06.783 [SPEAKER_01]: I would be a phenomenal series. 12:06.843 --> 12:10.225 [SPEAKER_01]: I would almost guarantee that it would go five games. 12:10.325 --> 12:15.369 [SPEAKER_01]: And I think it would come down to probably the last two, three innings, which tremendous baseball. 12:15.469 --> 12:17.110 [SPEAKER_01]: I'd be just incredible to watch. 12:17.943 --> 12:41.092 [SPEAKER_00]: I would agree with you and and look the aches I guess could crash this party in screw up that that series but with runners in scoring position since June 1st 1999 batting average at 29th in the league 274 OPP that 30th 29th best log 30th in OPS so they are also that bad without runners in scoring position they are that bad without air and judge so they get their pieces back 12:41.612 --> 12:47.701 [SPEAKER_00]: If they somehow end up in this four or five with a red socks going to Fenway Park or hosting an Yankee stadium, that's also peak baseball. 12:47.981 --> 12:55.932 [SPEAKER_00]: That could be interesting, but as of this moment, it seems quite likely that I would favor the socks over the Yankees or whoever else they faced in that four or five. 12:56.273 --> 12:56.613 [SPEAKER_00]: And then. 12:57.274 --> 13:07.897 [SPEAKER_00]: A series with arrays could easily determine the AL favorite, but I don't want to neglect another team in the American League, so I'm going to open up the AL race for you right now in a wild card specifically. 13:08.217 --> 13:14.838 [SPEAKER_00]: The eight season Red Sox have some distance between them, in fact there is no other team in the playoff picture over 500 in that wild card. 13:15.118 --> 13:19.559 [SPEAKER_00]: Their Rangers at 57 and 58 occupied the third spot in the twins' Guardians and Orioles right behind. 13:19.719 --> 13:21.680 [SPEAKER_00]: But, the Detroit Tigers, 13:22.500 --> 13:24.882 [SPEAKER_00]: The three best run-differentials in the American League. 13:24.902 --> 13:31.349 [SPEAKER_00]: Yagi's a plus 81, the Red Sox a plus 77, and the Red Sox were over, they were in the green basically all year. 13:31.869 --> 13:34.692 [SPEAKER_00]: So, when they were so far under 500, everyone was going. 13:35.819 --> 13:36.439 [SPEAKER_00]: the hell's going on. 13:37.120 --> 13:39.501 [SPEAKER_00]: They're pitching like crazy and they can't hit. 13:39.541 --> 13:41.843 [SPEAKER_00]: So they can't figure out like it's just all it's wonky. 13:41.863 --> 13:42.403 [SPEAKER_00]: It's not working. 13:43.044 --> 13:50.609 [SPEAKER_00]: Now that team is the Detroit Tigers who have a better run differential than the Red Sox and one run worse than the Aggies and plus 80. 13:51.009 --> 13:52.890 [SPEAKER_00]: They're just a game out of the wild card. 13:53.210 --> 13:59.234 [SPEAKER_00]: And after the Red Sox three games swept the white Sox, at Fenway, the Tigers are just out of the central too. 13:59.434 --> 13:59.615 [SPEAKER_00]: So 14:00.842 --> 14:05.948 [SPEAKER_00]: I want to put them in the playoffs very badly, and they're multiple paths for them to get there. 14:06.068 --> 14:13.235 [SPEAKER_00]: But I'm curious, your thoughts on the tigers are you counting them out of either the wild Carter or the division, and then what about the rest of the A.L. 14:13.736 --> 14:18.801 [SPEAKER_00]: If they win the division who gets that wild card, and the guardians, the white socks, these teams are really scuffling right now. 14:19.547 --> 14:42.876 [SPEAKER_01]: No, it's a totally fascinating one because immediately after the Terry school tried, I think you meet everybody across baseball immediately thought, okay, this is going to be a crazy cell often to try where they move KCMIs, what you know, what they did, I thought, Labor Tores would be going, I thought, can they gents who wouldn't be going, and I was expecting some others here to go, but they signaled out of Detroit that they wanted to still go and compete this season. 14:43.216 --> 14:47.057 [SPEAKER_01]: And the potters gave them an offer that they couldn't turn off for KCMIs, 14:49.411 --> 14:54.538 [SPEAKER_01]: But this tell their eyes on competing and as we look at it right now, they're only game out of that wild card spot. 14:54.558 --> 14:58.063 [SPEAKER_01]: But if you look at it here too, you have the twins who are half game out. 14:58.464 --> 15:02.209 [SPEAKER_01]: You got the guardians of half game out, ball the more a game out, the choice game out. 15:02.649 --> 15:04.111 [SPEAKER_01]: Seattle's a game and a half out. 15:04.452 --> 15:06.475 [SPEAKER_01]: And then you have the blue G is at three and a half out. 15:07.612 --> 15:33.932 [SPEAKER_01]: we should not be discounted here the presence of the marries in the blue jays by any means of the imagine it like they were they were two of the best teams in the american league last year and and the marries ended up going out and they got better they got um... tailored war in which i thought was a really good move there and they were trying a bunch of different scenarios here with hammer said handcock and George Kirby obviously those didn't across the finish line by the means they also held on the rampant radio rosarina so they're still a team that 15:34.773 --> 15:38.475 [SPEAKER_01]: has the pitching to compete and they got an offense about gray with Taylor Ward. 15:38.495 --> 15:41.176 [SPEAKER_01]: You'd expect him to be a better power hitter. 15:42.297 --> 15:45.238 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I mean, he struggled power like with his power and ball the more. 15:45.258 --> 15:52.021 [SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, Seattle is the top place to hit, but I would still expect him to be better in Seattle than he wasn't ball the more. 15:52.442 --> 15:55.303 [SPEAKER_01]: And you have Toronto where, yeah, they move some guys. 15:55.343 --> 15:58.745 [SPEAKER_01]: Dolvin Varshow, Jeff Hoffman, some of these other guys here as well. 15:59.125 --> 16:00.786 [SPEAKER_01]: But they all said it was a story onel. 16:01.106 --> 16:02.387 [SPEAKER_01]: And they kept Max Scherzer. 16:03.527 --> 16:06.008 [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm telling you, I'm not discounting a mining. 16:06.068 --> 16:06.909 [SPEAKER_01]: I know it's been ugly. 16:07.069 --> 16:12.051 [SPEAKER_01]: I know it has not been the season that they wanted to Toronto, but they are still very much in striking distance there. 16:12.071 --> 16:15.932 [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm monitoring those two teams and let's say at least one or two get in the mix there. 16:16.312 --> 16:17.953 [SPEAKER_01]: Like who ends up missing the postseason then? 16:18.133 --> 16:19.374 [SPEAKER_01]: Like I don't know. 16:19.594 --> 16:24.476 [SPEAKER_01]: I would be, obviously, the red socks and the Yankees at this point seem like they're in a pretty good spot to... 16:24.996 --> 16:28.399 [SPEAKER_01]: They got a pretty good grasp on things, but could they overtake the rangers there? 16:28.419 --> 16:37.167 [SPEAKER_01]: They're like, I think this entire mix between what these six, five, six teams here is going to be an absolutely bakers race to follow. 16:37.207 --> 16:39.249 [SPEAKER_01]: So I have no predictions at this point. 16:39.289 --> 16:40.770 [SPEAKER_01]: I think it just can be a period of madness, though. 16:41.362 --> 16:52.872 [SPEAKER_00]: my only prediction and it's barely a prediction is that if we're going to count the j's out, we're going to do it next week, which is the final challenge series of the year, the red socks are going there for four. 16:53.532 --> 16:57.636 [SPEAKER_00]: So the red socks aren't going to get hotter and that's not a dig. 16:57.756 --> 17:00.378 [SPEAKER_00]: Like you can't get hotter, no one's ever been hotter. 17:00.538 --> 17:02.260 [SPEAKER_00]: So it's not been an insult. 17:02.560 --> 17:04.282 [SPEAKER_00]: They're going to lose baseball games at some point. 17:04.882 --> 17:19.562 [SPEAKER_00]: The Toronto Blue Jays have them at home for four with a rotation that they reinforce with Jose Soriano and Spencer Ergattie who's coming off the aisle, but like controllable arms, they're going to have for the stretcher and end beyond. 17:20.343 --> 17:29.725 [SPEAKER_00]: They are not currently in the mix, not in that top pack, but either at the end of that series, they will be within shouting distance or it'll be all over for them. 17:29.965 --> 17:32.066 [SPEAKER_00]: Is my somewhat bold prediction? 17:32.606 --> 17:44.609 [SPEAKER_00]: A lot of doom or content coming out about the Orioles this week too, just the locker room sort of gutted, post-adly trade, buster owner reminded everybody that Gunnar Henderson's a Scott Moore's client, and hey, he's probably not coming back, which 17:45.089 --> 17:47.030 [SPEAKER_00]: I guess, you know, get your licks in this week. 17:47.070 --> 17:48.311 [SPEAKER_00]: And Orioles fans are already down. 17:48.351 --> 17:50.853 [SPEAKER_00]: Just be like, ah, check the ledger of Orioles players. 17:50.893 --> 17:52.234 [SPEAKER_00]: Somebody else you love is gonna leave. 17:52.294 --> 17:53.835 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know why we had to do that this week. 17:54.376 --> 17:56.317 [SPEAKER_00]: But he's also having a tough year, Gunnar. 17:56.357 --> 17:59.319 [SPEAKER_00]: So Gunnar Henderson's free agency not top of mind for me. 17:59.459 --> 18:12.128 [SPEAKER_00]: But, um, thoughts on those, those Orioles who are subject to a lot of, again, people writing them off and fans writing ULGs and LGs for an era and David Ruben science saying this makes me sick and whatnot. 18:12.168 --> 18:13.589 [SPEAKER_00]: But they're right there, too. 18:14.570 --> 18:17.152 [SPEAKER_00]: Thoughts on them making their way into the playout field. 18:18.193 --> 18:25.358 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I would definitely would not discount it by any means, but they also, like, that's an emotional gut check in moving a player like how they rush. 18:25.398 --> 18:35.626 [SPEAKER_01]: And immediately, I've used this comp a bunch on this show, and I'm going to end up using it again here with the alley trade is I was around the brewers when they ended at moving Josh Hader. 18:36.106 --> 18:37.748 [SPEAKER_01]: And they were still in contention. 18:37.888 --> 18:39.149 [SPEAKER_01]: They were doing their thing. 18:39.169 --> 18:39.889 [SPEAKER_01]: They're right in the mix. 18:40.450 --> 18:41.130 [SPEAKER_01]: They moved Hader. 18:41.350 --> 18:42.972 [SPEAKER_01]: They had visions of going on madding. 18:44.101 --> 18:48.477 [SPEAKER_01]: They didn't and their season just totally clap starting in Pittsburgh and I have a 18:49.498 --> 18:57.364 [SPEAKER_01]: bad feeling that might end up happening here with the Orioles, because Adley was a player that Mike Elias was super close with. 18:57.724 --> 18:59.526 [SPEAKER_01]: That was one of his first moves in Baltimore. 19:00.326 --> 19:05.310 [SPEAKER_01]: And then you also have the emotional element of the clubhouse where he was going to the movies with a bunch of players there. 19:06.011 --> 19:09.854 [SPEAKER_01]: And he got informed, oh, you're getting moved to Boston. 19:10.554 --> 19:12.356 [SPEAKER_01]: And the players were just devastated. 19:12.416 --> 19:14.237 [SPEAKER_01]: It was, it's a really tough deal there. 19:14.698 --> 19:15.038 [SPEAKER_01]: And then they 19:17.270 --> 19:37.994 [SPEAKER_01]: And that signals the club us, oh yeah, like maybe our front office doesn't actually think we can go on and compete this season here, and that's a really tough deal, especially if you look at it, they're only a game out of this thing right there, yeah, they're right there, and they're for an office so often like I get the vision from Michael Lyus and like adding the prospects that he did, I can follow his him, I probably would have taken that year as well. 19:38.794 --> 19:54.528 [SPEAKER_01]: But I worry about the long-term ramifications of that deal overall, and then you have the the gun or Henderson element Like I think Buster was right and the fact that you will not be doing an extension before free agency Because that just is not something that Boris has done well besides Cooper Pratt he just does not do that 19:55.842 --> 19:59.564 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, I would be really shocked if you saw a deal between non is for agency. 19:59.904 --> 20:03.725 [SPEAKER_01]: We'll not re-learning out when it comes your free agency, Baltimore should have money to spend. 20:04.385 --> 20:06.526 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, but it's going to ultimately come down to the highest bidder. 20:06.546 --> 20:08.247 [SPEAKER_01]: Like just how the Boris weekstakes always go. 20:08.707 --> 20:10.988 [SPEAKER_01]: The other part here is the Jackson holiday element. 20:12.732 --> 20:14.733 [SPEAKER_01]: He was being talked about in trades. 20:14.773 --> 20:16.014 [SPEAKER_01]: That was a real thing. 20:17.014 --> 20:19.836 [SPEAKER_01]: Could that be a conversation as revisited here in the off season? 20:19.916 --> 20:22.517 [SPEAKER_01]: Is that going to be something they stopped talking about? 20:23.238 --> 20:26.799 [SPEAKER_01]: But that core that was supposed to have so much promise there, Adly's gone. 20:27.260 --> 20:29.741 [SPEAKER_01]: Garner, now you have a question, Mark spoke what his future looks like. 20:30.041 --> 20:31.922 [SPEAKER_01]: The Jackson holiday going to be there long term. 20:32.522 --> 20:37.325 [SPEAKER_01]: For as good as it looked, it's another sign at nothing of certain baseball. 20:37.345 --> 20:41.007 [SPEAKER_01]: And it's possible that that core could really end up being gone here in a couple of years. 20:41.944 --> 20:50.169 [SPEAKER_00]: you have to hop on the window when you can a very underwhelming series of playoff series for that Orioles core that is already being torn apart. 20:50.189 --> 20:52.871 [SPEAKER_00]: So we'll see they factor into the playoff race anyway. 20:53.011 --> 20:58.154 [SPEAKER_00]: If there's no, there's no ruling about one last look to the NL playoff field. 20:58.374 --> 21:01.516 [SPEAKER_00]: These races are not over either and they move quickly. 21:01.536 --> 21:02.777 [SPEAKER_00]: You want to start out with nothing being certain. 21:03.057 --> 21:04.838 [SPEAKER_00]: The pirates are alone in the NL Central. 21:04.878 --> 21:09.161 [SPEAKER_00]: This is a pirates podcast and the rotation is the weakest part of their roster. 21:09.301 --> 21:13.422 [SPEAKER_00]: at this point, Paul schemes as a 5-year-a over the last month and a half, two months. 21:13.462 --> 21:18.844 [SPEAKER_00]: This is not the Pirates team we were promised, and yet it's one of the top offences in the NFL. 21:18.924 --> 21:21.145 [SPEAKER_00]: Incredible arguing to extend brain and loud. 21:21.185 --> 21:27.587 [SPEAKER_00]: These past few weeks, quite frankly, thoughts on the NFL playoff field where a team like the Pirates is now sitting in last. 21:28.855 --> 21:36.963 [SPEAKER_00]: inexplicably, you know, the hardball and back receded reds have caught them, but the red schedule and September is too crazy for me to say, hey, that's a playoff team. 21:37.423 --> 21:41.707 [SPEAKER_00]: You are mostly looking at a big jumble plus the Diamondbacks and Padres. 21:42.408 --> 21:51.297 [SPEAKER_00]: So thoughts on that group and thoughts on how the Pirates specifically can write the ship and take advantage of sort of a wide open race where they have one of the best rosters remaining in 21:52.038 --> 22:01.797 [SPEAKER_00]: Again, run differential kings like they outclass the fillings and diamond backs plus 24 right now to just plus two and plus three But they kick at that pitching line and pulse gains as velocity as a problem. 22:02.118 --> 22:03.040 [SPEAKER_00]: They can't seem to solve 22:03.775 --> 22:05.635 [SPEAKER_01]: No, the Paul scheme's thing is baffling. 22:05.956 --> 22:13.817 [SPEAKER_01]: And you expect him going out in the mound, you expect him at least six or seven innings, with maybe two or less runs allowed. 22:13.877 --> 22:18.018 [SPEAKER_01]: And yet, he's not pitching to his abilities whatsoever. 22:18.158 --> 22:20.019 [SPEAKER_01]: And it's totally confusing here. 22:20.659 --> 22:24.960 [SPEAKER_01]: And do you give him a little breather if you're the Pirates or what exactly do you go on and do? 22:25.640 --> 22:29.161 [SPEAKER_01]: But it's something where he is the key to that team. 22:29.341 --> 22:31.402 [SPEAKER_01]: And if he's not going, then they're not going. 22:33.531 --> 22:42.499 [SPEAKER_01]: It's just, it's a really tough one because it's the exact opposite of what they had last year where their offense was poopoo, but their, their pitching was really good. 22:42.579 --> 22:46.983 [SPEAKER_01]: And now it's just totally flipped here, which shows how crazy baseball can be. 22:47.043 --> 22:51.367 [SPEAKER_01]: But that being said, they're only four net games out of a, out of a wildcard spot there. 22:51.747 --> 22:52.928 [SPEAKER_01]: They got a revamp bullpen, 22:53.744 --> 23:00.049 [SPEAKER_01]: I know with how they've been playing lately, it's not good, but that being said, it will get better. 23:00.349 --> 23:02.730 [SPEAKER_01]: I still think that they have a chance of getting to the postseason. 23:03.851 --> 23:07.374 [SPEAKER_01]: What it's got to start sooner rather than later, allows you to fall too far back here. 23:07.394 --> 23:12.517 [SPEAKER_01]: But the rest of this playoff race here, Arizona, is extremely pesky. 23:12.677 --> 23:13.678 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think there's any team 23:14.762 --> 23:24.388 [SPEAKER_01]: out there who wants to play Arizona because the way they play baseball, how hard they play and how difficult they put, how difficult they make it on their opponents, they're really tough match-ups. 23:24.428 --> 23:32.833 [SPEAKER_01]: So that is a team I think a lot of folks would be very happy they would miss the post-season or if they would end up missing the post-season, but I'm also looking at the San Diego Padres. 23:32.993 --> 23:36.715 [SPEAKER_01]: I know it was not exactly ideal here for Casey Mies, but 23:37.858 --> 23:43.703 [SPEAKER_01]: this is an AJ pro team where he made some good moves of the deadline. 23:44.264 --> 23:47.967 [SPEAKER_01]: He's still got a very talented roster and he kept that full pen intact. 23:48.047 --> 23:50.730 [SPEAKER_01]: I could not stress enough how important that was in San Diego. 23:52.193 --> 23:53.695 [SPEAKER_01]: I think the potters make this thing. 23:53.895 --> 23:57.139 [SPEAKER_01]: I really do and they can then make it some serious noise there. 23:57.159 --> 24:04.326 [SPEAKER_01]: If you get machado doing this thing, you get a teast doing this thing, that is a really difficult postseason matcher for anything. 24:04.346 --> 24:06.188 [SPEAKER_01]: But do I think that they went at all? 24:06.548 --> 24:07.530 [SPEAKER_01]: Probably not, but. 24:08.190 --> 24:12.693 [SPEAKER_01]: I do think if they go into postseason, they're going to be very capable of making some noise. 24:12.733 --> 24:13.713 [SPEAKER_01]: Definitely not rule on them out. 24:14.194 --> 24:17.035 [SPEAKER_01]: Miami, I'm not feeling very good about them. 24:17.616 --> 24:19.197 [SPEAKER_01]: Cardinals, like they've had a great season. 24:19.497 --> 24:25.060 [SPEAKER_01]: They've exceeded expectations, not overly optimistic that they're going to be able to continue doing this. 24:25.080 --> 24:26.261 [SPEAKER_00]: That bullpen. 24:26.801 --> 24:27.322 [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly. 24:27.382 --> 24:35.907 [SPEAKER_01]: But if we're looking at a team that's at least four games back, the pirates to me stand out as the best team or the best bet there to possibly get into the postseason among those teams. 24:36.450 --> 24:57.843 [SPEAKER_00]: I 100% am aligned with you and I am sorry to the Cincinnati Reds like I want to give you more respect, but here's what you've got waiting for you in September, Padres, Brewers at home, at Dodgers at Brewers, then you come back home, face the Dodgers again for four and then face the cubs for three and then you have a day off. 24:57.903 --> 25:00.925 [SPEAKER_00]: So, take rest up and go to Atlanta and face the brave. 25:01.005 --> 25:02.926 [SPEAKER_00]: I've never seen this schedule like this in my life. 25:03.353 --> 25:09.861 [SPEAKER_01]: That is brutal, and I'll tell you, the more I have thought about it, I do not understand their deadline one bit. 25:09.921 --> 25:18.911 [SPEAKER_01]: And like, even hearing her is scheduled, like, I mean, you can't sell off because of your schedule, but like that being said, like they had to understand exactly where they were in this picture here. 25:19.592 --> 25:22.755 [SPEAKER_01]: And the talk about putting the qualifying off for our Brady singer. 25:23.951 --> 25:25.272 [SPEAKER_00]: If I was them, I would not do that. 25:25.432 --> 25:28.553 [SPEAKER_01]: I think that'd be an extremely obvious one for him to take. 25:28.593 --> 25:30.754 [SPEAKER_01]: And I would make his fragency decision really easy. 25:31.214 --> 25:35.796 [SPEAKER_01]: And given that certainty that he's going to end up wandering there, but you have him, Tyler Stevenson. 25:35.816 --> 25:41.838 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I don't know if I'm allowed to say the ask on this program here yet, but it was a lot. 25:42.318 --> 25:46.840 [SPEAKER_01]: And that should have been one where you get a good prospect back, and you take it. 25:47.180 --> 25:48.781 [SPEAKER_01]: A good prospect, maybe a lottery ticket. 25:48.921 --> 25:50.982 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, maybe that's what we're looking at there. 25:51.002 --> 25:52.482 [SPEAKER_01]: But they were seeking too much. 25:53.948 --> 25:59.532 [SPEAKER_01]: He's probably at a department for ages here for nothing, which the hell is such a missed opportunity by that man. 25:59.552 --> 26:03.394 [SPEAKER_01]: There was so many teams looking for catching, and they just got too cute with it and hell on. 26:03.414 --> 26:04.475 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I just, I didn't get that. 26:05.028 --> 26:08.710 [SPEAKER_00]: Yankees got too cute with it too, but nobody wound up with Stevenson. 26:08.730 --> 26:11.332 [SPEAKER_00]: Hey, weigh in in the comments in the discord. 26:11.432 --> 26:13.794 [SPEAKER_00]: Let us know Dodgers or the field for you. 26:14.114 --> 26:17.196 [SPEAKER_00]: And who's your final playoff team in the AL and the NL? 26:17.816 --> 26:19.177 [SPEAKER_00]: Hey, Robert, one more thing before we go. 26:19.597 --> 26:24.521 [SPEAKER_01]: Could it possibly be Mitch Garberg as the fit for the nearer Yankees? 26:24.581 --> 26:28.483 [SPEAKER_01]: That is one that I think would be a relatively good one. 26:28.863 --> 26:29.644 [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, some good depth. 26:29.884 --> 26:30.845 [SPEAKER_01]: I think that might be one. 26:31.964 --> 26:35.326 [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, based on a text I just received, probably a good one to keep an eye on. 26:35.846 --> 26:37.507 [SPEAKER_00]: Interesting, uh, worth watching. 26:37.667 --> 26:39.327 [SPEAKER_00]: I would say how quickly can you get there. 26:39.567 --> 26:44.229 [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, look, join us in this court, listen to this podcast on either YouTube or your favorite podcast platforms. 26:44.470 --> 26:45.350 [SPEAKER_00]: Check out the subtext. 26:45.450 --> 26:47.051 [SPEAKER_00]: That is in the episode description. 26:47.351 --> 26:50.512 [SPEAKER_00]: We will see you next week, uh, Robert, you'll be here Monday, right? 26:50.572 --> 26:51.933 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, uh, we'll be chopping it up. 26:52.593 --> 26:53.554 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, hope you're Monday. 26:53.574 --> 26:56.615 [SPEAKER_01]: And then I'm off to Canada, which will be incredible. 26:57.127 --> 26:59.530 [SPEAKER_00]: And I am excited for you to get so much needed time off. 26:59.630 --> 27:01.692 [SPEAKER_00]: We'll be here Wednesday and Friday with special guests. 27:01.732 --> 27:03.494 [SPEAKER_00]: Special guest wants more to illustrate it on Wednesday. 27:03.514 --> 27:06.258 [SPEAKER_00]: And then stay tuned for a mystery guest on Friday. 27:06.798 --> 27:08.140 [SPEAKER_00]: It'll probably be somebody cool. 27:08.440 --> 27:09.261 [SPEAKER_00]: I would say. 27:09.301 --> 27:10.222 [SPEAKER_00]: But until then, yeah. 27:10.583 --> 27:12.525 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, also, we didn't get a mystery team to step by. 27:12.545 --> 27:13.606 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, thanks going off with that. 27:13.947 --> 27:14.667 [SPEAKER_00]: No, I didn't. 27:14.687 --> 27:17.431 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, with the reds, the mystery team because just everything they did was a mystery. 27:18.591 --> 27:20.972 [SPEAKER_01]: You know what, you just saw that there wasn't mystery tape. 27:21.052 --> 27:23.433 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it's really, you gotta be able to go through the reds out there. 27:23.954 --> 27:25.914 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, no, not a lot of mystery team intrigue. 27:25.934 --> 27:27.875 [SPEAKER_00]: A lot of faded, fainted, complete deals. 27:27.895 --> 27:29.596 [SPEAKER_00]: We all knew school Dodgers were gonna happen. 27:29.656 --> 27:32.937 [SPEAKER_00]: But uh, it does not make them the unabated favorite for me. 27:33.017 --> 27:35.999 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm still taking the field, but it's up to the Dodgers to prove me wrong. 27:36.159 --> 27:38.280 [SPEAKER_00]: Magic moments make three pizza right now. 27:38.440 --> 27:39.720 [SPEAKER_00]: They're all residing in Boston. 27:40.020 --> 27:41.161 [SPEAKER_00]: We will see you next week. 27:41.621 --> 27:42.461 [SPEAKER_00]: Take care, everybody. 27:42.641 --> 27:43.322 [SPEAKER_00]: For our memory. 27:43.482 --> 27:45.222 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm Adam Weiner here with the baseball exam. 27:45.943 --> 27:46.463 [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you, everybody.