WEBVTT 00:01.263 --> 00:05.997 [SPEAKER_02]: Be fire, Brazil, uponcows presented by the basterds of Boston baseball. 00:06.548 --> 00:17.135 [SPEAKER_02]: Red Sox, when their first game posts trade deadline in absolute onslaught at Fenway Park, 14 or two year final score, they crush Davis Martin and the White Sox. 00:17.695 --> 00:24.119 [SPEAKER_02]: Four team runs on 15 hits, four bombs, Red Sox, looking good, post deadline right away. 00:24.719 --> 00:28.081 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm your host Jason Kelly, I've got Doug and Matt alongside. 00:28.742 --> 00:33.165 [SPEAKER_02]: Obviously this one was all about the offense, we'll get to the some of the pitching a little bit later. 00:34.125 --> 00:53.985 [SPEAKER_02]: uh... yeah davis martin who has actually been pretty good for the white socks for the most part this year just absolutely ambushed uh... right away in the first inning red socks not wasting any time Caleb Durbin with a grand slam to get things started and then it did just kept pouring on from there so dug with you see from the offense and i pretty fun stuff on 00:54.577 --> 00:55.398 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, really fun. 00:55.438 --> 00:56.719 [SPEAKER_00]: Exactly the way I was going to use. 00:56.759 --> 01:00.362 [SPEAKER_00]: It's just a fun, you know, it would have been a fun game to be at. 01:00.382 --> 01:01.964 [SPEAKER_00]: That's a fun game to watch right away. 01:01.984 --> 01:06.187 [SPEAKER_00]: Nick so God spat in the ball right, right on first, first I back at that double. 01:06.668 --> 01:07.608 [SPEAKER_00]: And then use a spell like. 01:08.799 --> 01:25.108 [SPEAKER_00]: He was you felt like he was going to get he was coming in right away when he hits that double and it's like he's coming in which going right away And it was just I think ambush is the perfect way for it because you know before he looked up he was down six nothing and you know They were just all over them. 01:25.128 --> 01:34.953 [SPEAKER_00]: They you know where they were aggressive with their bats They knew what they wanted to hit and they they were picking their pitches and they got it in and it was a fun inning to watch and 01:36.269 --> 01:40.654 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, and even the pitching was good along the way, but like you said, it doesn't matter. 01:40.694 --> 01:41.575 [SPEAKER_00]: It's about the offense. 01:41.635 --> 01:45.379 [SPEAKER_00]: It's about a breakage annihilating two balls. 01:45.940 --> 01:50.104 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, one over the bullpen is obviously a smash and then straight away, center. 01:50.585 --> 01:55.250 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, two bombs, it's just they would just roll in every which way. 01:55.270 --> 01:57.112 [SPEAKER_00]: This is a fun, fun game. 02:01.253 --> 02:02.214 [SPEAKER_01]: trying to get off mute here. 02:02.414 --> 02:03.516 [SPEAKER_01]: It was a blast. 02:03.556 --> 02:04.417 [SPEAKER_01]: That was a lot of fun. 02:04.537 --> 02:05.438 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the game. 02:05.759 --> 02:07.961 [SPEAKER_01]: It was an absolute ambush right out of the gates. 02:08.802 --> 02:09.163 [SPEAKER_01]: You're right. 02:09.203 --> 02:09.944 [SPEAKER_01]: Lead off double. 02:09.984 --> 02:10.905 [SPEAKER_01]: Just starting that first inning. 02:10.945 --> 02:11.105 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 02:11.125 --> 02:12.787 [SPEAKER_01]: Lead off double from so guard was great. 02:12.807 --> 02:13.808 [SPEAKER_01]: Great piece of hit in there. 02:14.930 --> 02:16.191 [SPEAKER_01]: So now it gets hit by the pitch. 02:16.872 --> 02:24.897 [SPEAKER_01]: And then I think will you will your head a nice piece there hits a ball to kind of left center Brett and Doyle new acquisition for the white socks. 02:24.917 --> 02:32.201 [SPEAKER_01]: I believe he's a gold glove or very good defensive center field They're actually had a good put out there later in the game good assist as well. 02:32.241 --> 02:34.763 [SPEAKER_01]: We are going to taste of his own medicine trying to tag from first 02:35.724 --> 02:46.680 [SPEAKER_01]: But then, you know, will your hits that defy ball, so guard tags gets to third and you're thinking, here we go again, another sacrifice hit that's team is just really good at playing the game of baseball. 02:47.602 --> 02:49.344 [SPEAKER_01]: But instead, contraris just, 02:50.005 --> 02:56.831 [SPEAKER_01]: another dog at bat, fouls off a few pitches and then reaches out on the breaking ball outside the zone, drops it into left center. 02:57.251 --> 03:05.658 [SPEAKER_01]: We get the first run, we don't have to use it out, then Masa comes base hit first pitch next time around, which was kind of a crazy little piece of hitting there too. 03:05.998 --> 03:10.602 [SPEAKER_01]: Montgomery just got called, got caught off guard, flatfooted there, couldn't make the play. 03:11.103 --> 03:15.907 [SPEAKER_01]: Base is loaded, Durbin waste no time, Yatsi over the monster, and it was just incredible. 03:15.927 --> 03:17.588 [SPEAKER_01]: They battered around the order that inning, 03:18.168 --> 03:20.990 [SPEAKER_01]: And ironically, he had a double play to end that inning, too. 03:21.030 --> 03:23.891 [SPEAKER_01]: So double play to end both first of the first two innings. 03:23.951 --> 03:27.533 [SPEAKER_01]: So we kind of gave up a few outs, but it didn't matter. 03:27.553 --> 03:30.594 [SPEAKER_01]: We had two innings this game where we scored six runs. 03:30.774 --> 03:35.216 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, how many times that Fenway did we not even score three runs in the entire game? 03:35.757 --> 03:41.379 [SPEAKER_01]: And tonight, two separate times we scored six runs, we batted around completely two separate times. 03:41.859 --> 03:44.401 [SPEAKER_01]: Will you're with two bombs, the second one to dead center? 03:44.481 --> 03:47.182 [SPEAKER_01]: Any time you put one on a dead center at Fenway, that's an absolute poke. 03:47.922 --> 04:05.628 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, he hit one another one, uh, his first one was one of the deepest parts of the ballpark two over the triangle, uh, this team leads, you know, say what you want about the offense and as a whole throughout the season from March till now, they lead the entire league and home run since the all star break, uh, it was 29 when that's that was reported. 04:05.648 --> 04:09.530 [SPEAKER_01]: I believe that's 30 or 31 now after a couple of those bombs late. 04:09.610 --> 04:11.370 [SPEAKER_01]: So, uh, what can you do? 04:11.531 --> 04:15.312 [SPEAKER_01]: It was a hit barrage, um, you know, 14 runs at the end of the day. 04:15.892 --> 04:17.394 [SPEAKER_01]: the white socks didn't stand a chance. 04:17.474 --> 04:26.041 [SPEAKER_01]: I think my favorite part about the offense tonight and the offense kind of during this run during this hot stretch 29 and 5 whatever the total is right now. 04:27.382 --> 04:32.166 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, we've been scoring first which completely changes the dynamic of the game. 04:32.586 --> 04:34.388 [SPEAKER_01]: We've been putting together much better at bats. 04:34.948 --> 04:51.326 [SPEAKER_01]: grinding out at bats, seeing a lot of pitches, getting into the underbelly of the bullpen, and not the bullpen pitchers that the other team wants because we have the lead, but also any time we get a, you know, a cushion or, you know, tonight it was a six on nothing lead, by the way, seven batters into the game. 04:51.346 --> 04:52.347 [SPEAKER_01]: We're up six to nothing. 04:52.447 --> 04:53.388 [SPEAKER_01]: So that's just, 04:54.089 --> 04:54.690 [SPEAKER_01]: unbelievable. 04:54.710 --> 05:05.580 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think, I don't remember last time I saw that from it from the red socks, but every time that we get a lead, six, no, six, nothing in this game, we gave up one run, we'd come right back in the bottom and we got that run back. 05:06.080 --> 05:09.944 [SPEAKER_01]: Then we gave up another run, and it was seven to two, and we came back and dropped six on them. 05:10.004 --> 05:15.289 [SPEAKER_01]: So I really love every time we get punched, we'd come out and punch back, and I think that's really huge. 05:15.749 --> 05:16.309 [SPEAKER_01]: I just think, 05:16.990 --> 05:23.158 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, the team is just riding in all time high and hitting is certainly contagious and they really have a lot of belief in each other. 05:23.198 --> 05:25.340 [SPEAKER_01]: So just an offensive barrage. 05:25.420 --> 05:28.024 [SPEAKER_01]: I wasn't expecting that tonight, but it was a lot of fun to watch. 05:28.544 --> 05:29.686 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they ride emotions. 05:30.607 --> 05:35.273 [SPEAKER_00]: The scene definitely rides on the emotions and looks at contraris kind of is the leader of it. 05:36.184 --> 05:40.905 [SPEAKER_00]: but they, they're, they're a vibe steam, big time. 05:41.306 --> 05:42.606 [SPEAKER_01]: Daran with another home run as well. 05:42.626 --> 05:43.326 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's back. 05:43.366 --> 05:45.627 [SPEAKER_01]: That was a long run, that was a ball. 05:46.067 --> 05:49.868 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, OPS isn't there, average isn't there, but he's finding ways to drive and runs. 05:49.928 --> 05:51.248 [SPEAKER_01]: The defense has been okay. 05:51.789 --> 05:55.410 [SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, we didn't make a move for an outfield or outside of Eli White yesterday. 05:55.490 --> 05:58.991 [SPEAKER_01]: So it sounds like Daran's our guide, maybe we get Roman Anthony back. 05:59.011 --> 06:00.051 [SPEAKER_01]: He's swinging a little bit. 06:00.551 --> 06:02.292 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not counting on that just yet, but 06:03.132 --> 06:04.893 [SPEAKER_01]: Good to see the ranch showing some signs of life. 06:04.933 --> 06:07.014 [SPEAKER_01]: I've said it a few times already on this podcast. 06:07.054 --> 06:19.000 [SPEAKER_01]: If you can get hot, if you can tap into a little bit of that player that we've seen in 2024, even last year, that's a huge addition to the lineup or a huge pump to the lineup there. 06:20.572 --> 06:31.216 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the offense doing what they're doing, it's really two-fold and it's the approach and every time this offense has played this way and they've, you know, they've come out and scored a bunch of runs. 06:31.276 --> 06:35.858 [SPEAKER_02]: You can tell that they were so prepared and they've faced Dave as Martin before. 06:35.938 --> 06:38.900 [SPEAKER_02]: So they're familiar with him and I think they actually brought them up last time too. 06:39.460 --> 06:42.441 [SPEAKER_02]: So they're familiar with him and they were hunting him. 06:42.941 --> 06:46.843 [SPEAKER_02]: They were absolutely hunting, like you guys said, the pitch is that they wanted. 06:47.263 --> 06:53.785 [SPEAKER_02]: That Durban grand slam, he loves that pitch, that pitch right below the knees a little bit in, that's his sweet spot. 06:54.205 --> 06:57.547 [SPEAKER_02]: The Duran home runs the same thing, breaking ball right in his wheelhouse. 06:58.167 --> 07:04.349 [SPEAKER_02]: So, the game plan was obviously great, there are approaches great, with a lineup like this, that's what they need, right? 07:04.389 --> 07:07.830 [SPEAKER_02]: Because they're not the most naturally powerful lineup, right? 07:07.850 --> 07:10.131 [SPEAKER_02]: A lot of these guys are going to need to really run into one. 07:10.471 --> 07:13.932 [SPEAKER_02]: But if you game plan, you approach it that way, that's how it can get done. 07:14.392 --> 07:25.235 [SPEAKER_02]: And that's why they're able to score 14 runs on 15 hits because they had the game plan all set, not just for Martin, but for Eric Fettie as well, who they're also familiar with. 07:25.656 --> 07:26.296 [SPEAKER_02]: So it's that. 07:27.136 --> 07:29.257 [SPEAKER_02]: and then the second part is what you guys brought up. 07:30.077 --> 07:30.878 [SPEAKER_02]: It's the emotions. 07:31.238 --> 07:32.318 [SPEAKER_02]: It's the vibe. 07:32.418 --> 07:35.840 [SPEAKER_02]: If you want to call it that, because I do think they they run on emotions. 07:35.900 --> 07:41.422 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think the trade deadline is probably the most stressful part of the season for a lot of these guys. 07:41.462 --> 07:48.505 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, look at the comments, Jeremy made the last 24 hours about how he knew I thought he was going to get traded then he's like, well, they don't trade me. 07:48.525 --> 07:49.325 [SPEAKER_02]: They might just cut me. 07:49.745 --> 07:50.886 [SPEAKER_02]: because I've been so terrible. 07:50.946 --> 07:57.029 [SPEAKER_02]: So he's sitting there with a storm swirling in his head thinking, I'm not going to be on this team by Tuesday. 07:57.169 --> 07:58.470 [SPEAKER_02]: They're going to get rid of me. 07:59.111 --> 08:03.713 [SPEAKER_02]: So a guy like that who already we know, it's so easy for him to get in his own head. 08:04.274 --> 08:12.459 [SPEAKER_02]: For a guy like that to not be traded in for the report set, the organization like Chad Tracy, you know, them sat down with him and said, no, like you're staying. 08:12.759 --> 08:17.962 [SPEAKER_02]: If you're just staying and we're sticking with you, that's a huge emotional boost for a guy like that. 08:18.482 --> 08:31.385 [SPEAKER_02]: And look, two for four tonight, in absolute bomb, you know, if he starts to turn around because, you know, he just has that weight lifted off his shoulder, then that's, you know, better than I trade deadline acquisition. 08:31.506 --> 08:39.408 [SPEAKER_02]: You could have made if you get, you know, a glimpse of 20, 25 to ran or maybe 20, 24, like you get that kind of guy back in this lineup. 08:39.788 --> 08:40.408 [SPEAKER_02]: That's huge. 08:41.048 --> 09:02.138 [SPEAKER_02]: So I think a lot of these guys are just breathing a little bit easier, trade deadlines past, the team was aggressive, they went out, they got guys, they improved the roster and now they go, okay, that's all done, now we can just focus on who's in front of us, who are we facing tomorrow and we can simplify things and go from there and I think that's going to be huge for this lineup. 09:03.041 --> 09:23.571 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and just good on good on the clubhouse, the team in general, for kind of rallying behind him, it was about a week ago where he, you know, had his antics in Sacramento and everyone was calling for his head, but Tracy had his back publicly, contrarse had his back publicly and then inside those four walls where none of us are privy to hearing those conversations. 09:23.611 --> 09:24.811 [SPEAKER_01]: It seems like they rallied around him. 09:24.831 --> 09:26.112 [SPEAKER_01]: They believed him and they said, hey, man. 09:26.712 --> 09:27.492 [SPEAKER_01]: Don't worry about it. 09:27.552 --> 09:28.913 [SPEAKER_01]: We know you've got it in you. 09:29.013 --> 09:30.073 [SPEAKER_01]: Just keep doing what you're doing. 09:30.093 --> 09:30.813 [SPEAKER_01]: We got your back. 09:31.053 --> 09:35.315 [SPEAKER_01]: And I think we're starting to see some of the benefits of that. 09:35.735 --> 09:46.758 [SPEAKER_01]: Another thing too, Jason, just because you mentioned the game plan, I totally agree the effects that we've been seeing from the team put together top to bottom those last few weeks have really made all the difference offensively for us. 09:47.358 --> 09:48.179 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what it is. 09:48.199 --> 09:52.660 [SPEAKER_01]: There's a report to that drive line, you know, being out of the org for, I guess a few months now. 09:52.740 --> 09:52.820 [SPEAKER_01]: And 09:53.560 --> 09:55.680 [SPEAKER_01]: maybe that I don't see that as just a coincidence. 09:55.720 --> 10:16.024 [SPEAKER_01]: I do think they made some tweaks to their approach, but it doesn't seem to matter who they put in that lead-off spot, so-guard, Seagler, Massataka Yoshida, whoever they put in that lead-off spot is making an impact, is getting things done right away, and it's kind of setting the tone for the rest of the line up to come. 10:16.644 --> 10:20.305 [SPEAKER_01]: And one of the shows I was on previously, I didn't even realize this, but they somebody 10:21.645 --> 10:24.226 [SPEAKER_01]: The socks are like 21 and 2 at Jason, it might have been you. 10:24.686 --> 10:27.627 [SPEAKER_01]: The socks are 21 and 2 or something when Masa starts the game. 10:28.367 --> 10:30.548 [SPEAKER_01]: We added another win to that column tonight. 10:30.648 --> 10:36.710 [SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know if that he's making all the difference, but yeah, the approach definitely seems to have changed a bit. 10:37.431 --> 10:41.052 [SPEAKER_01]: And it doesn't seem to matter who we put in that leadoff spot. 10:41.432 --> 10:42.773 [SPEAKER_01]: They all seem to be getting the job done. 10:42.833 --> 10:46.714 [SPEAKER_01]: So set in the tone and scoring early, really does make a big difference. 10:48.071 --> 10:54.192 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, special to say down in the two spots without lead off guy gets on if you're in like tonight, if he gets a double. 10:54.772 --> 10:57.333 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I was like, say not on sitting the men right now. 10:58.173 --> 11:04.314 [SPEAKER_00]: Like I was pretty confident that he was he got pegged, but I think if he didn't, he probably would have, I really felt like that. 11:04.934 --> 11:12.756 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, and they still got him in, but you know, say down is just on another level right now and you know, looking like the best set of 11:16.778 --> 11:32.981 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that Raphaella contract is looking really sweet right now because, man, I mean, they got to him early and he just continues to get better and better and it's funny, like the way you can stop him is you got to be in him, I mean, that's it, because otherwise he's, you know, he's just being really productive at the plate. 11:33.522 --> 11:40.183 [SPEAKER_02]: And that's kind of like sneaky, I kind of liked that they picked up a guy like you like white and I liked that their explanation was look. 11:40.383 --> 11:45.604 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, we want to give Sade on a breather every now and then and, you know, a game like tonight, you're up 14 or two. 11:45.644 --> 11:46.844 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, take him out of center field. 11:46.864 --> 11:52.905 [SPEAKER_02]: Let him press his legs a little bit, because Rafael has broken down a little bit in the second half through his career. 11:52.925 --> 11:54.026 [SPEAKER_02]: He's not the biggest guy. 11:54.246 --> 11:58.526 [SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, that's bound to happen and look plain center field is a very demanding position. 11:58.686 --> 12:00.147 [SPEAKER_02]: And he plays it very well. 12:00.447 --> 12:03.807 [SPEAKER_02]: So, I'm glad that they got some depth there to kind of help with that. 12:05.128 --> 12:06.728 [SPEAKER_02]: But, you know, go ahead, Matt. 12:06.808 --> 12:07.008 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 12:07.428 --> 12:11.851 [SPEAKER_01]: No, I just said it's a good call out because I thought that you like white trade was a little out of the blue. 12:11.871 --> 12:13.292 [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't really understand it. 12:13.392 --> 12:17.736 [SPEAKER_01]: We gave up a guy that really wasn't contributing at the major league level, but we get this guy back. 12:17.856 --> 12:23.300 [SPEAKER_01]: Obviously offensively a lot of blue and his avant chart known for a defense and speed type of guy. 12:24.280 --> 12:27.102 [SPEAKER_01]: But you know, all of a sudden, then I started to think about it. 12:27.142 --> 12:27.443 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, 12:27.923 --> 12:30.784 [SPEAKER_01]: Man, I haven't seen Sedan get a day off at Centerfield in a while. 12:30.844 --> 12:33.404 [SPEAKER_01]: I haven't seen anybody else playing right field in a long time. 12:33.844 --> 12:38.325 [SPEAKER_01]: Suddenly, this log jam that we all came into this season, kind of complaining about to be honest. 12:38.926 --> 12:44.167 [SPEAKER_01]: All of a sudden, now we kind of don't have a ton of death in Centerfield or in the outfield in general. 12:44.227 --> 12:45.547 [SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, Durans had some struggles. 12:45.567 --> 12:49.068 [SPEAKER_01]: We've had a bit of a revolving door if you want to say that at left field. 12:49.848 --> 13:04.009 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, it on and will you really haven't had a lot of time off in those in those positions so from that perspective I do like the addition of a little bit of outfield depth and I just have this weird feeling so I kind of want to call it out now that 13:05.010 --> 13:18.637 [SPEAKER_01]: Eli White will have kind of a signature moment in a Red Sox uniform, whether it's like a big defensive play, a big diving play in a clutch moment, or I called it out in the war room right a Dave Roberts type impact, a big deal late in the game. 13:19.197 --> 13:22.299 [SPEAKER_01]: I really do think there'll be a signature moment where we'll all say, 13:22.939 --> 13:24.279 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that was a good move. 13:24.319 --> 13:25.240 [SPEAKER_01]: That was a good pickup. 13:25.420 --> 13:35.243 [SPEAKER_01]: It's not, you know, necessarily needle needle move or impact, but I think he's going to have a signature moment in Red Sox uniform at some point in the future, probably later in the season potentially in the playoffs. 13:35.323 --> 13:37.224 [SPEAKER_01]: It looks like we're we're heading that way. 13:37.344 --> 13:40.745 [SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, I'll take all the depth right now. 13:40.785 --> 13:41.265 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm kind of. 13:42.366 --> 14:04.405 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, understanding a little more about the philosophy right we all want stars, but it's really not your top nine or 10 guys that win either world series or candidly even your top 26 it takes a full 40 man roster and you know a lot of these guys we've called for a guys along the way, but they're getting their opportunities they're getting the job done and I really just think that's an old two. 14:04.905 --> 14:20.717 [SPEAKER_01]: the depth of the roster topped about a 1 through 40 key, you know, that 20 through 40, I would put our 20 through 40, but up against anybody else is 20 through 40 and throughout the course of 162 game season, I think that does have, make, make, pay dividends throughout the year. 14:22.378 --> 14:26.521 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I like that, I like that prediction, but, you know, I can see, I, I like it. 14:27.604 --> 14:36.090 [SPEAKER_00]: I like, I'm a big fan of having a guy on the team like that, but you know, you know, even though everyone knows he's coming in the steel can still get the bag. 14:36.931 --> 14:38.011 [SPEAKER_00]: I think that's very valuable. 14:39.672 --> 14:44.336 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and just because it was a really small move on the margins doesn't mean it's not a good move. 14:44.436 --> 14:50.740 [SPEAKER_02]: And I mentioned it last night, the guy you gave up was Tyler Rubberstein, who's a 27 year old depth starter. 14:50.940 --> 14:52.942 [SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, he's not part of your future. 14:52.962 --> 14:54.343 [SPEAKER_02]: He's not one of your top prospects. 14:54.363 --> 14:54.883 [SPEAKER_02]: He's kind of. 14:55.283 --> 15:12.650 [SPEAKER_02]: A journey many, he's been down there for a long time and he's going to be in the rule five over the winter So and I doubt the Red Sox going to use a 40 men spot to protect him from that So they knew they're losing him anyway, and here's the Eli White who yes a speedster with a really good glove That's a valuable thing to have on your bench. 15:13.030 --> 15:19.072 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the bat may not be great, but who cares if he can you know As you guys mentioned swipe a bag for you waiting a game or 15:19.532 --> 15:24.034 [SPEAKER_02]: you put him in defensively, he makes a great play, then that makes it all the worthwhile. 15:24.214 --> 15:30.356 [SPEAKER_02]: So just because a move is small and it kind of happens last minute doesn't mean that it's not going to have a good impact on the team. 15:30.456 --> 15:34.097 [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, I like the idea of going to get him and 15:34.837 --> 15:58.061 [SPEAKER_02]: In terms of the conversation about the offensive approach, I think you can really go back to the report that said that Theo Epstein was disappointed in sort of the direction of your organization, and that he felt like they were going to analytical, because I feel like after that report is when things slowly start to turn around, and then they went into July, and they just went completely bananas. 15:58.281 --> 16:01.802 [SPEAKER_02]: I think that report was more like they made a change. 16:02.482 --> 16:10.271 [SPEAKER_02]: Like Theo, because again, Theo's part ownership, and I think that, you know, he got together with Henry and those guys and they got together with Brazil and said, look 16:10.910 --> 16:12.610 [SPEAKER_02]: We got to be a shift gears here. 16:12.870 --> 16:17.051 [SPEAKER_02]: It can't be all drive line because it's not working for half this roster. 16:17.532 --> 16:29.234 [SPEAKER_02]: So I think they made some internal moves that maybe we don't know about that weren't reported because to turn things around that drastically, it's not just because Caleb Durbin remembered how to play baseball, right? 16:29.354 --> 16:32.235 [SPEAKER_02]: Like this guy was getting rookie of the year votes last year. 16:32.315 --> 16:39.497 [SPEAKER_02]: So it really is that they obviously changed the approach and they changed how these guys prepare for each pitching match 16:41.177 --> 16:51.024 [SPEAKER_02]: Whatever they did, keep doing it because the offense has never been better all season than it is right now Yeah, and all the credit the Tracy go ahead, Duggy. 16:51.044 --> 17:03.352 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's just a lot of credit the Tracy No, for clearly making a move making a switch and if it comes from the top down You know at least he implemented it, you know clearly the right way and 17:04.327 --> 17:24.012 [SPEAKER_00]: They really take it after his way of playing with sacrifices and stealing and playing some small ball and playing the small ball in front of the power hitters and not having the solo home runs that we were having early in the season and getting guys on for these guys to hit multiple run home runs and it's really clicking. 17:26.074 --> 17:34.400 [SPEAKER_01]: It's interesting point too when you bring up Theo because you think about some of those Red Sox teams of his era, right, when he was truly at the helm. 17:34.580 --> 17:44.247 [SPEAKER_01]: And obviously we had a ton of talented offensive players at that time, ton of power hitters, some Hall of Famers, ton of all stars in that bunch, right. 17:44.307 --> 17:45.228 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't even have to name them. 17:45.268 --> 17:51.693 [SPEAKER_01]: We all know who they are, but one of the strategies and one of the reasons those guys were so effective back in the day was. 17:52.170 --> 17:55.611 [SPEAKER_01]: They were absolute grinders when it came to their appats. 17:55.691 --> 17:57.312 [SPEAKER_01]: They were not chasing bad pitches. 17:57.632 --> 17:58.612 [SPEAKER_01]: They were failing them off. 17:58.872 --> 18:02.933 [SPEAKER_01]: They were working deep in counts, getting seeing five or six pitches per appat. 18:03.333 --> 18:05.674 [SPEAKER_01]: And that just wore out the starting pitcher every time. 18:05.714 --> 18:08.715 [SPEAKER_01]: All of a sudden, they got 90 pitches in the fourth or fifth inning. 18:08.895 --> 18:13.816 [SPEAKER_01]: And the next thing you know, even if you're not scoring runs, doing that, you're knocking that starter out early. 18:14.377 --> 18:18.698 [SPEAKER_01]: And in this case, tonight, obviously, this was, I believe the White Saks Best starter for one, 18:19.078 --> 18:19.920 [SPEAKER_01]: We actually got to him. 18:19.960 --> 18:23.188 [SPEAKER_01]: I thought we got him five runs last time of face them in Chicago, but 18:24.260 --> 18:27.221 [SPEAKER_01]: Hey, once you, it's a lot easier to hit against their middle. 18:27.361 --> 18:37.545 [SPEAKER_01]: They're long relief bombs versus their top of the arm, you know, top of the bullpen elite arms that they bring in when they have a lead, and they're trying to shut the door on you. 18:37.625 --> 18:50.770 [SPEAKER_01]: So again, just going back to seeing a ton of pitches, getting that starter out of the game early and having that forcing them to pull in some of their bottom of the rotation call it relief pitchers, because they're playing from behind. 18:51.150 --> 18:54.874 [SPEAKER_01]: not allowing them to come in and execute with their better relievers to hold the lead. 18:55.354 --> 18:57.596 [SPEAKER_01]: I think really just makes a difference on the outcome of the game. 18:58.357 --> 19:00.980 [SPEAKER_01]: And obviously makes it easier to hit and score runs. 19:02.512 --> 19:03.293 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, absolutely. 19:03.313 --> 19:12.018 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, if you can jump on that guy, you know, and really put the stress on him early and I was surprised I kept Martin in as long as they did, but I guess I understand it. 19:12.038 --> 19:13.599 [SPEAKER_02]: They're trying to see if they're both in a little bit. 19:14.000 --> 19:16.461 [SPEAKER_02]: They have a little more depth now after getting Castillo. 19:16.541 --> 19:21.424 [SPEAKER_02]: So Eric Fettie who was a starter goes to the bullpen. 19:21.464 --> 19:24.006 [SPEAKER_02]: Doesn't exactly give you a bail type performance out of the bullpen. 19:24.046 --> 19:27.688 [SPEAKER_02]: Unfortunately for Chicago, but But hey, we'll we'll take it. 19:27.708 --> 19:29.550 [SPEAKER_01]: That was that was fun to pile on late. 19:30.411 --> 19:37.316 [SPEAKER_01]: On top of that not only early in the games early in the series right Jason so we've tapped into their bullpen You're gonna exhaust our bullpen and game one of the series. 19:37.336 --> 19:57.011 [SPEAKER_01]: They still have two games to go like you said so now the pressure is on their starters to continue to try to go deeper into the game tomorrow and And Thursday versus if if I think that's why they try to leave the starter and you know to try to save the bullpen understanding that hey this game's probably out of reach and We don't want to use up our entire bullpen tonight. 19:57.031 --> 19:58.712 [SPEAKER_01]: We still have two more games to go against these guys 20:00.173 --> 20:04.974 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, definitely, let's see if we'll get him back. 20:06.414 --> 20:20.978 [SPEAKER_02]: But while we wait on that, on the pitching side for the Red Sox, nothing to really complain about after it's sandable, ends up giving you five innings, a little bit shaky at times, load the bases a couple of times, four walks, five caves, but only allowed one run. 20:21.718 --> 20:23.518 [SPEAKER_02]: So he really, you know, he did his work. 20:23.959 --> 20:26.579 [SPEAKER_02]: And this is a guy that, you know, we weren't sure about. 20:26.659 --> 20:29.040 [SPEAKER_02]: We're not sure what you can really get out of him. 20:30.260 --> 20:47.665 [SPEAKER_02]: you know obviously the long recovery from from the time he joined but I feel like he's been more than serviceable and I feel like tonight he did his job you know he kept them off base he kept them off balance that change up was working really well it's just that sometimes the control can get away from him he tries to be a little too nitpicky and you know let's 20:54.127 --> 21:02.012 [SPEAKER_02]: You got a little bit, you know, nitpicky and the pitch count went up, but five innings, you know, pretty good baseball from from Patrick's end of all tonight. 21:02.072 --> 21:03.413 [SPEAKER_02]: So, Matt, I'll start with you. 21:03.613 --> 21:08.055 [SPEAKER_02]: How'd you feel about his performance and performance of even, you know, bailing all those guys after that? 21:08.796 --> 21:10.757 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, service bulls probably sums it up, right? 21:10.797 --> 21:14.159 [SPEAKER_01]: I think sand of all has has been given you enough to win the games. 21:14.199 --> 21:21.223 [SPEAKER_01]: In fact, this was his sixth start of the season, I believe, and the red socks have won every single one of his start. 21:21.303 --> 21:21.543 [SPEAKER_01]: So, 21:21.913 --> 21:22.794 [SPEAKER_01]: He's not tearing it up. 21:22.854 --> 21:26.038 [SPEAKER_01]: He tonight gave you five innings, which was a season high for him. 21:26.098 --> 21:27.399 [SPEAKER_01]: He's never giving you more than five. 21:28.281 --> 21:31.985 [SPEAKER_01]: But with the way the offense pit scored, you know, five was enough. 21:32.786 --> 21:34.368 [SPEAKER_01]: Definitely flirting with some trouble. 21:34.788 --> 21:36.810 [SPEAKER_01]: A lot of those innings had a lot of basement res on. 21:36.851 --> 21:38.232 [SPEAKER_01]: Got a double play early in the game. 21:38.252 --> 21:39.033 [SPEAKER_01]: Got bases loaded. 21:39.073 --> 21:40.214 [SPEAKER_01]: I think in that fourth inning. 21:40.255 --> 21:40.515 [SPEAKER_01]: So, 21:41.055 --> 21:50.159 [SPEAKER_01]: Lot of traffic on the base passes, but he found ways to get out of it too many walks for my liking tonight I think he's got a three three eight year right now after tonight's start. 21:50.559 --> 21:55.742 [SPEAKER_01]: That's pretty good But his whip is 1.67 So again tonight is just a typical start. 21:55.762 --> 22:01.204 [SPEAKER_01]: I guess based on those numbers right a lot of traffic on the base pass But finally way to get get get the out 20 needs them 22:03.482 --> 22:05.103 [SPEAKER_01]: I guess I can't complain about 10 of all. 22:05.143 --> 22:06.503 [SPEAKER_01]: He's going to be our fifth starter. 22:06.904 --> 22:08.284 [SPEAKER_01]: He's depth. 22:08.404 --> 22:10.265 [SPEAKER_01]: It's good to see him kind of come out. 22:10.445 --> 22:13.947 [SPEAKER_01]: And just like I said, give us a chance to win his second start. 22:14.027 --> 22:15.027 [SPEAKER_01]: I think against the race. 22:15.047 --> 22:16.768 [SPEAKER_01]: He gave up four runs, but outside of that. 22:17.246 --> 22:19.968 [SPEAKER_01]: He hasn't given up more than two random runs in any of his starts. 22:20.108 --> 22:21.669 [SPEAKER_01]: So actually have it up. 22:21.829 --> 22:23.851 [SPEAKER_01]: It's one run, four runs, zero, two, two. 22:23.971 --> 22:27.754 [SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, not going deep into games just yet, but giving us a chance to win. 22:28.254 --> 22:30.195 [SPEAKER_01]: And fortunately tonight, we had such a big lead. 22:31.056 --> 22:32.557 [SPEAKER_01]: Weister got in a little trouble. 22:33.037 --> 22:36.660 [SPEAKER_01]: Great to see Eric Miller, our newest dog out there, man. 22:36.740 --> 22:38.761 [SPEAKER_01]: One net bat was at a three or four pitch strikeout. 22:39.302 --> 22:40.443 [SPEAKER_01]: This guy seems legit. 22:40.463 --> 22:45.166 [SPEAKER_01]: I candidly had not heard of him until we actually got this guy and never heard of him. 22:45.987 --> 23:03.320 [SPEAKER_01]: But then I pulled the top chart and just yet, but huge guy six and a lot of the absolute dog you Seems a highlight to him yelling at the reds and speaking of red hits the bottom chart is bloody right it's all red So we love to see that I think it's a it was a good move to add him to the bullpen I kind of wanted to starter 23:03.740 --> 23:05.002 [SPEAKER_01]: not to get back into the deadline. 23:05.022 --> 23:07.846 [SPEAKER_01]: I know you guys covered it all last night, but he adds death. 23:08.167 --> 23:09.949 [SPEAKER_01]: And that just shortens the game. 23:10.089 --> 23:12.272 [SPEAKER_01]: And nights like tonight where you start only gives you five. 23:12.993 --> 23:14.055 [SPEAKER_01]: You can bring that guy out. 23:14.075 --> 23:17.219 [SPEAKER_01]: You have so many good options to bring out of the bullpen. 23:17.259 --> 23:18.761 [SPEAKER_01]: Then of course bullpen Bayo, man. 23:19.547 --> 23:28.289 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what it is, but the guy is nails out of the bullpen he's, I think statistically the worst starter in the league with a minimum of whatever the minimum is 35 innings. 23:28.889 --> 23:35.531 [SPEAKER_01]: And then the statistically best reliever in the league minimum 35 innings, whatever that threshold is. 23:35.591 --> 23:40.992 [SPEAKER_01]: So complete a nigma, I said it before, I don't understand it, but I don't have to understand everything in the universe. 23:41.032 --> 23:45.033 [SPEAKER_01]: I just like that he's coming in close and the door gives you a three strong at the end of the game. 23:50.675 --> 23:58.778 [SPEAKER_01]: I have to give credit to Tracy, I guess, you know, Bailey as well, and even Breslo, even right. 23:58.858 --> 24:01.419 [SPEAKER_01]: They made the decision to change him a little bit. 24:01.439 --> 24:05.560 [SPEAKER_01]: They moved him to AAA and then brought him back up in Relief Duty. 24:05.580 --> 24:08.682 [SPEAKER_01]: They tried to give him two starts, and then those stretches, and those are two worse outing. 24:10.005 --> 24:21.489 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I just think about it this way would Corra have ever done that would Corra have ever made a change like that and and made an adjustment like that with Bayo so just you know this game of adjustments and that one is certainly paying off. 24:22.049 --> 24:29.311 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm no longer shaking when I see Bayo come into the game so overall strong prediction performance to run, given up at the end of the day. 24:29.331 --> 24:33.593 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah strong pitching performance we we know the pitching is legit this year. 24:34.544 --> 24:45.448 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think Bayo deserves a lot of credit too for, you know, I think we talked a lot about him being a mental case, you know, him being a, you know, kind of a head case, I don't know, well, the kids have us had a lot. 24:46.208 --> 24:56.952 [SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, to have, you know, the capacity to say, okay, I'm going to take a step back from being a starter after, you know, being the opening day starter a few years ago. 24:57.652 --> 25:19.228 [SPEAKER_00]: just a few years ago and I'm going to step back and I will take the bullpen route and I'll be great at it and I think he deserves a lot of credit to just you know being a part of the team and kind of like you know doing I think a lot of people thought he's selfish at times and you know he's showing a lot of you know a lot of pride in the team a lot of pride in himself and he deserves a lot of credit for that alone. 25:21.504 --> 25:29.307 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I give a lot of credit to, because it's got to be the most difficult thing to, to basically be told like you can't, you can't be a starter. 25:30.007 --> 25:36.510 [SPEAKER_02]: And it's partially your own fault, but it's also just because they have such good pitching depth that he's going to get pushed to the pen. 25:37.990 --> 25:46.837 [SPEAKER_02]: if he could just figure out why that is because every time they show the side by side of his numbers as a starter versus a bullpen, it's insane. 25:46.977 --> 25:54.002 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's like Garrett Whitlock levels of, you know, when they tried to mess around with him being a starter and we all on this podcast said stop doing it. 25:54.462 --> 25:58.005 [SPEAKER_02]: He can't hack it as a starter, put him in the bullpen because he's elite in there. 25:58.460 --> 26:00.741 [SPEAKER_02]: And finally, thank God, they figured that out. 26:01.342 --> 26:07.326 [SPEAKER_02]: With Beo, I'm not saying he has to go that route, but who knows, maybe that is his future. 26:07.366 --> 26:11.128 [SPEAKER_02]: And look, the Red Sox have the control here, because they have them under contract. 26:11.648 --> 26:14.110 [SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, he still signed to that extension. 26:14.170 --> 26:25.857 [SPEAKER_02]: So they could say to him, look, we think we could turn you into an elite reliever because look, if you can't figure out, this first inning stuff, then that might be the route we have to go. 26:25.897 --> 26:26.418 [SPEAKER_02]: And you know what? 26:26.958 --> 26:37.003 [SPEAKER_02]: If I'm Brian Bale and I'm pitching that well out of the bullpen, you know, you do a couple years of that as, you know, in a lead reliever and his contract comes up again, he can make bank. 26:37.643 --> 26:45.267 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you know, you make more money as a starter, sure, but if you can't figure it out, you won't, but if you end up becoming a, you know, late ining, you know, 26:46.147 --> 26:47.247 [SPEAKER_02]: kind of threat like that. 26:47.748 --> 26:48.928 [SPEAKER_02]: He can get a big contract. 26:49.408 --> 27:00.232 [SPEAKER_02]: So hopefully someone's advising him like, hey, this, you know, I know you don't like being in the bullpen, but you're fantastic out of there, and maybe that's just the way it should be for him. 27:00.992 --> 27:01.212 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 27:01.893 --> 27:02.373 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 27:02.513 --> 27:04.594 [SPEAKER_00]: I see you jules in the comments, 90 wins. 27:05.054 --> 27:10.856 [SPEAKER_00]: Jules wanted to set me on fire when I said we could win 88 wins at the beginning of the season. 27:12.253 --> 27:13.534 [SPEAKER_01]: It makes you feel any better Dougie. 27:13.594 --> 27:17.397 [SPEAKER_01]: I have an open preseason bet for over 87 and a half win. 27:17.417 --> 27:19.038 [SPEAKER_01]: So we're both for the same thing there. 27:19.078 --> 27:23.881 [SPEAKER_01]: And I think we're back on track or back on pace, but yeah, final thoughts on Bayo just really quick. 27:23.901 --> 27:26.282 [SPEAKER_01]: Kudos to him for showing some mental fortitude, right? 27:26.382 --> 27:32.006 [SPEAKER_01]: It's it's a mental game and he definitely could have taken his ball and gone home and said I can't do this. 27:32.306 --> 27:34.167 [SPEAKER_01]: I'll do triple A release me whatever, but 27:34.707 --> 27:35.828 [SPEAKER_01]: Ultimately, this is good. 27:35.848 --> 27:37.648 [SPEAKER_01]: This is a good thing for the Red Sox. 27:37.708 --> 27:39.089 [SPEAKER_01]: It's a good thing for Red Sox fans. 27:39.469 --> 27:42.690 [SPEAKER_01]: We still have him under control for what three or four more seasons. 27:43.810 --> 27:47.952 [SPEAKER_01]: So whether he turns out to be able to, we have time to figure him out as a starter as well. 27:48.332 --> 27:49.833 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think you touch it this season. 27:49.853 --> 27:51.973 [SPEAKER_01]: I think this season, you let it go the way it's going. 27:51.993 --> 27:52.514 [SPEAKER_01]: It's not broke. 27:52.534 --> 27:53.114 [SPEAKER_01]: Don't fix it. 27:53.794 --> 27:55.335 [SPEAKER_01]: You're starting to see signs of life. 27:55.355 --> 27:59.077 [SPEAKER_01]: You're starting to say, Hey, he can perform on a major league mound. 27:59.418 --> 28:05.061 [SPEAKER_01]: We just still need to continue to tweak and figure this out and maybe 27 or 28 or 29. 28:05.421 --> 28:07.382 [SPEAKER_01]: We can figure out how to turn it back into a starter. 28:07.462 --> 28:11.945 [SPEAKER_01]: But we've already seen some formulas where teams go with the opener that go with these bullpen games. 28:12.385 --> 28:17.128 [SPEAKER_01]: So again, back to my kind of 26-man roster feel from before. 28:17.268 --> 28:19.089 [SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of the same thing with a pitching staff, right? 28:19.490 --> 28:22.992 [SPEAKER_01]: Does it, you know, it's great if you have two horses at the top of your staff. 28:23.332 --> 28:46.267 [SPEAKER_01]: But it's also great if you know, pictures one through nine or however many carry on the roster 12 pictures are all quality guys one through 12 right so top to bottom so I think ultimately no matter how you slice it it's a good thing for Bayo it's a good thing for the Red Sox and hey relievers get paid to what are the top line relievers get 10 million 15 million haters getting 20 i'm not going to compare them to that but a good reliever will get. 28:46.758 --> 28:57.651 [SPEAKER_01]: 10 or 12 million so yeah, there's he's still plenty young and right now he's helping us win ball games and like I said it's good for the socks that he's figuring it out and he's figuring out how to pitch well. 28:59.489 --> 29:02.871 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, with bail, RedSogs have him under contract through 2029. 29:02.911 --> 29:06.113 [SPEAKER_02]: They have a club option on him for 2030. 29:06.373 --> 29:10.996 [SPEAKER_02]: So assuming, and it's at 9.1 million each year. 29:11.616 --> 29:13.917 [SPEAKER_02]: So by then, you'll definitely know what he is. 29:14.297 --> 29:22.522 [SPEAKER_02]: Is he a reliever, or see a future closer, or does he go back to being a mid to late rotation kind of arm? 29:23.022 --> 29:27.065 [SPEAKER_02]: Also, the thing about bail is that that contract is extremely tradable. 29:27.605 --> 29:36.928 [SPEAKER_02]: So if he pitches really well out of the pen and you want to make some off-season moves, you can kind of sell that to other teams as look, he's still under 30 and he's still as good stuff. 29:37.108 --> 29:39.449 [SPEAKER_02]: He just has to figure out up there, right? 29:40.710 --> 29:50.053 [SPEAKER_02]: So I think in general the bail development, it was wonky at first, you know, sending him down to Worcester, he obviously wasn't happy, made those comments about 29:50.333 --> 29:52.795 [SPEAKER_02]: you know, I'm not a reliever, I'm a starter, blah, blah, blah, blah. 29:53.235 --> 29:55.216 [SPEAKER_02]: But this is what happens when you win. 29:55.797 --> 29:55.937 [SPEAKER_02]: Right? 29:55.957 --> 30:03.022 [SPEAKER_02]: When you keep winning like this, and you put yourself back in the playoff race, and you put yourself firmly as one of the best teams in the American league. 30:03.042 --> 30:05.724 [SPEAKER_02]: Now, guys like Brian Bay, it will go, well, you know what? 30:05.744 --> 30:07.065 [SPEAKER_02]: We keep winning so fine. 30:07.305 --> 30:07.565 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. 30:07.665 --> 30:08.946 [SPEAKER_02]: I'll pitch out of the bullpen, you know what? 30:09.326 --> 30:10.127 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm making my money. 30:10.447 --> 30:11.248 [SPEAKER_02]: We're winning games. 30:11.408 --> 30:12.448 [SPEAKER_02]: I get to pitch knocked over. 30:12.729 --> 30:12.969 [SPEAKER_02]: Sure. 30:13.449 --> 30:14.150 [SPEAKER_02]: No problem. 30:14.190 --> 30:16.631 [SPEAKER_02]: We'll go back to the poll starter versus reliever thing 30:19.053 --> 30:42.454 [SPEAKER_02]: This is why winning is a great bandade for a lot of stuff like that and it's a great bandade for you know Roman anthony and gyracrochet being out most of the year and luckily we got some good news on both those fronts crochet is now throwing from 50 to 60 feet Roman anthony took actual batting practice from a coach today so you know those are signs of those guys are getting a little bit closer and 30:43.175 --> 30:51.480 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, the more they keep winning and the more that those guys get closer, the more it looks like you could end up being one of the best if not me best team in the American League. 30:51.501 --> 30:53.342 [SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be tough to get past the race. 30:53.362 --> 30:56.184 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, the race were aggressive at the deadline as well. 30:56.224 --> 30:57.304 [SPEAKER_02]: They didn't mess around either. 30:57.785 --> 31:01.387 [SPEAKER_02]: But, you know, crochet Anthony Rushman, they're all on the way. 31:01.507 --> 31:02.708 [SPEAKER_02]: So, let's see. 31:03.949 --> 31:10.213 [SPEAKER_00]: If they come back and I mean, if they can come back and play for three weeks, 31:11.731 --> 31:17.853 [SPEAKER_00]: And they actually look good, Roman sitting in the ball, like we think he can, crochet his pitching like crochet. 31:18.373 --> 31:19.954 [SPEAKER_00]: I think we would be the favorite, don't we? 31:22.334 --> 31:23.675 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think. 31:24.635 --> 31:28.216 [SPEAKER_00]: That's a bad, I'm not saying that, well, I think that will have you to obviously a big totally. 31:28.456 --> 31:31.217 [SPEAKER_00]: But that's two potentially big pieces. 31:32.438 --> 31:34.318 [SPEAKER_01]: There are good, really are two best players right now. 31:34.338 --> 31:35.519 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's just go say more. 31:36.199 --> 31:40.040 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I do think if crochet comes back, I trust him to be very good. 31:40.985 --> 31:44.546 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't really have any at least coming into the season. 31:44.566 --> 31:46.807 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, there are two best players probably, right? 31:46.967 --> 31:48.208 [SPEAKER_00]: And you see it with Roman. 31:48.388 --> 31:52.529 [SPEAKER_00]: I think you know, when he comes back, but I'll trust crochet right away. 31:53.670 --> 31:53.970 [SPEAKER_01]: I agree. 31:54.010 --> 31:56.851 [SPEAKER_01]: I think if Roman does come back, he might be a little bit rusty. 31:56.871 --> 31:59.252 [SPEAKER_01]: He might take a little bit of time to catch his groove. 31:59.592 --> 32:06.414 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, so probably a little bit longer loose there in terms of if he doesn't come out of the gates hitting, I'm not going to go right back to this guy's a boss. 32:06.494 --> 32:07.675 [SPEAKER_01]: It's it's a hard game to play. 32:07.715 --> 32:08.915 [SPEAKER_01]: It's hard to hit that baseball. 32:09.335 --> 32:23.303 [SPEAKER_01]: I think if either in the comeback, Crochet's probably more likely to be to show signs of his former self right out of the gates than Roman, but yeah, definitely, great, encouraging to hear some positive reports today about that. 32:23.363 --> 32:28.046 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not putting a ton into that because I just can't put a ton of, uh, 32:28.786 --> 32:30.887 [SPEAKER_01]: I just can't put a ton into some of these reports that come out. 32:30.907 --> 32:32.688 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the deadline had reports swirling. 32:32.728 --> 32:38.630 [SPEAKER_01]: We've heard this before, and especially with those two guys on their injuries, we thought that they'd be back a long time ago by now. 32:38.730 --> 32:41.791 [SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, reserving some judgment there. 32:41.931 --> 32:46.873 [SPEAKER_01]: But there's one thing that was struck to me coming out of the deadline yesterday. 32:46.893 --> 32:49.714 [SPEAKER_01]: I, you know, we didn't end up with an outfield. 32:49.734 --> 32:52.755 [SPEAKER_01]: We got Eli White, but you know, he's not, we didn't bring him in for offense. 32:53.155 --> 32:55.197 [SPEAKER_01]: and we didn't land a starting pitcher, right? 32:55.598 --> 32:59.601 [SPEAKER_01]: Two areas where I thought we probably could bolster out the special on the starting pitcher front. 33:00.022 --> 33:10.472 [SPEAKER_01]: So that tells me that they think we have something in the works or a guy like Crochet could be coming back, how in Oveado have been reports of them coming back, 33:10.892 --> 33:17.776 [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe there's some other guys in AAA that we don't even know similar to Jake Bennett that they're really high on, where they were like, we can move some of our pitching depth. 33:17.836 --> 33:19.237 [SPEAKER_01]: We don't have to bring in a starter. 33:19.657 --> 33:27.622 [SPEAKER_01]: They might know something we don't in terms, and now we're hearing good positive science crochets throwing baby steps, but also a big step in that phase. 33:28.382 --> 33:31.505 [SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, I think the same thing with without filter, right? 33:31.525 --> 33:33.667 [SPEAKER_01]: We all wanted an upgrade and left field. 33:33.687 --> 33:35.228 [SPEAKER_01]: We all wanted Durant to be moved. 33:35.328 --> 33:40.292 [SPEAKER_01]: But them not making that move kind of makes me think, hey, maybe they think Romans coming up. 33:40.372 --> 33:42.994 [SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, Campbell was the, 33:43.955 --> 33:59.759 [SPEAKER_01]: often to play the month in July for what that's worth in AAA, but, you know, I think ultimately not to spend again to much time on the deadline they improved a huge area of need at the catcher position, but them not finding ways to get another starter or get that other corner outfielder, I think. 34:00.219 --> 34:07.921 [SPEAKER_01]: Kind of tells me that, hey, they must know something we don't and put in a little bit of faith in potentially Roman and crochet coming back. 34:08.441 --> 34:09.462 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to 34:10.582 --> 34:23.320 [SPEAKER_01]: go ahead and and set my expectations there just yet but i want to leave that as a nice to have i would love to see those guys come back and contribute because certainly talent certainly talented individuals that can probably help this club when some games 34:25.321 --> 34:31.023 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, to that point, I think that's why, you know, people are upset that they didn't add a short stop, right? 34:31.043 --> 34:35.945 [SPEAKER_02]: They were in unzacnado, they were in unc tree Abrams, and I said I'm the deadline show last night. 34:36.145 --> 34:39.947 [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's because those teams asked for areas and areas plus. 34:40.827 --> 34:50.351 [SPEAKER_02]: and I think the red socks boxed at it because they said, you know what, we could make that trade, but areas could be just as good as Zack NATO or CJ Abrams potentially even better. 34:50.811 --> 34:57.754 [SPEAKER_02]: He's only 21 and he's already at AAA smoking home runs and getting 110 mile an hour singles off the bat. 34:57.874 --> 35:02.456 [SPEAKER_02]: So I think, you know, to your point, Matt about, you know, they sort of know something we don't. 35:02.556 --> 35:05.858 [SPEAKER_02]: I think they look at Franklin Aries and go, he can help us in September. 35:06.398 --> 35:32.837 [SPEAKER_02]: like he's that good right now and Alex Spear mentioned on the broadcast when Merlonia said look in this organization if you're in AAA they consider you part of the big lead depth meaning that yes they are absolutely looking at areas saying yep he could help us at some point if we need an extra bat but the way the offense is going they kind of don't right now so let them settle into AAA and let them keep developing but I wouldn't be surprised you see that 35:34.984 --> 35:35.605 [SPEAKER_01]: Not only that. 35:36.146 --> 35:39.590 [SPEAKER_01]: I actually think the asking price for some of those short stops must have been ridiculous. 35:39.630 --> 35:43.936 [SPEAKER_01]: So not to everybody's already up in arms for what we give up for Adley. 35:43.996 --> 35:49.262 [SPEAKER_01]: So I can only imagine what we'd be saying if we give up areas for for net or something like that. 35:49.363 --> 35:49.623 [SPEAKER_01]: So. 35:50.308 --> 35:53.770 [SPEAKER_01]: On top of that, though, it's not exactly a black hole at shortstop. 35:53.810 --> 35:56.111 [SPEAKER_01]: Montestario has been lights out at least offensively. 35:56.151 --> 35:58.071 [SPEAKER_01]: We know he needs some improvement defensively. 35:58.932 --> 36:00.893 [SPEAKER_01]: When Chang was up here, he was kind of the opposite. 36:00.913 --> 36:03.634 [SPEAKER_01]: He gave a good defense, not a lot of offense. 36:04.074 --> 36:07.815 [SPEAKER_01]: I really don't want anything to do about story coming back, but he's supposed to come back healthy. 36:08.056 --> 36:13.398 [SPEAKER_01]: And again, I can't believe I'm saying this, but IKF was serviceable. 36:14.418 --> 36:36.515 [SPEAKER_01]: coming out of shorts up to he's should be coming back and you know not moving the needle offensively but he was back in 277 with a 344 on base percentage so you know that's a perfectly fine utility player for him too so it's not exactly a black hole and yeah I'd love to see areas come up but also with the lockout looming I believe if they add him to that 40 man roster 36:37.115 --> 36:45.899 [SPEAKER_01]: Then there's some kind of stipulation that if we do get locked out next year, he won't be able to join the facilities or something like that or actually do work with the team or the club. 36:46.879 --> 36:50.961 [SPEAKER_01]: But candidly, I'm not worried about next year if he can come up and help us win games this year. 36:51.381 --> 36:52.141 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm all for it. 36:53.021 --> 36:57.063 [SPEAKER_01]: I just hope they don't rush him because they didn't move a short stop now, so they rush him up. 36:58.043 --> 36:59.344 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's be patient on that position. 36:59.364 --> 37:01.745 [SPEAKER_01]: That's not exactly a black hole or as big. 37:02.265 --> 37:21.230 [SPEAKER_01]: You know of of it issue I think I mean we sort of 14 runs the night so we're doing okay Offensively right now, but yeah room for improvement from the short stop position for short It's definitely an upgradable position and just really quick since you mentioned it We we definitely aren't playing for the American League right now The race they get a little bit stronger. 37:21.590 --> 37:26.531 [SPEAKER_01]: They're definitely not gonna be an easy out and the Guardians I don't want to sleep on them. 37:26.611 --> 37:30.652 [SPEAKER_01]: They made some good moves yesterday So I think they're gonna make a chance for it 37:31.952 --> 37:37.776 [SPEAKER_01]: I shouldn't say this publicly, but not too scared of the Yankees right now, at least as it stands unless they get some guys healthy. 37:37.836 --> 37:49.163 [SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, right now where I like our chances with the team that we have compared our competition, at least in the American League, and it should be a fun, a fun couple months here as we close out this season. 37:51.891 --> 37:52.852 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, for sure. 37:52.952 --> 37:55.073 [SPEAKER_02]: I think I think the AL is in play. 37:55.454 --> 37:56.474 [SPEAKER_02]: I really do. 37:56.795 --> 37:59.837 [SPEAKER_02]: I think, you know, especially the gets, they get some guys back. 37:59.957 --> 38:01.358 [SPEAKER_02]: There's no reason why it couldn't be them. 38:01.558 --> 38:05.761 [SPEAKER_02]: So, but as we always say, you guys take it sort of one game at a time. 38:06.121 --> 38:13.307 [SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, looking at the August schedule, RedSawks could really put together a good month here because, yeah, you got 38:13.767 --> 38:17.370 [SPEAKER_02]: The white socks right now, who you seem to do fine with, you know, they're a good team. 38:17.450 --> 38:18.570 [SPEAKER_02]: The red socks seem to handle them. 38:18.911 --> 38:20.632 [SPEAKER_02]: You've got the athletics this weekend. 38:20.772 --> 38:22.253 [SPEAKER_02]: They are still banged up. 38:22.293 --> 38:23.374 [SPEAKER_02]: They didn't have a good deadline. 38:23.814 --> 38:25.955 [SPEAKER_02]: You've got Toronto who sold pieces after that. 38:25.975 --> 38:29.978 [SPEAKER_02]: You've got Pittsburgh who's, man, you got the Marlins after that. 38:30.038 --> 38:36.263 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, they could really clean up this month on on some bad competition, you know, especially post deadline. 38:36.323 --> 38:39.865 [SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, hopefully they take advantage of that. 38:40.545 --> 38:41.706 [SPEAKER_00]: I think we passed the year. 38:41.766 --> 38:42.767 [SPEAKER_00]: He's this month. 38:45.492 --> 38:49.396 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, the the schedule on paper is looking a lot easier this month. 38:49.536 --> 38:59.226 [SPEAKER_01]: It's felt like we went through the buzz saw I still can't believe the run that we went on I guess that's now 15 and now again some of the top eight teams are not running we've been over before we swept the White Saxon Chicago. 38:59.753 --> 39:02.835 [SPEAKER_01]: The Yankees at home, the rays at home, the Dodgers on the road. 39:02.935 --> 39:05.116 [SPEAKER_01]: And now we won this first game versus the white sac. 39:05.136 --> 39:14.261 [SPEAKER_01]: So, but we're we're we're playing very good against teams above 500, which you love to see because that's what you're going to see if if you do make the playoffs. 39:14.341 --> 39:17.042 [SPEAKER_01]: But also no more West Coast road trips. 39:17.082 --> 39:19.823 [SPEAKER_01]: I know as a as a podcast from happy about that. 39:19.863 --> 39:22.785 [SPEAKER_01]: We've been late a couple of these times trying to cover some of those games, but 39:23.666 --> 39:30.411 [SPEAKER_01]: Is it for West Coast road trips that we had and we were the best West Coast Red Sox team I think I've ever seen. 39:30.431 --> 39:40.738 [SPEAKER_01]: We usually struggle when we go out West but I don't also don't think I've seen four separate trips out to the West Coast but really glad that those are behind us and yeah it's going to be the dog days. 39:40.798 --> 39:50.465 [SPEAKER_01]: I said that in the last show we all know what it's like in August so this is when you want to start playing your best baseball and the schedule definitely sets us up for an opportunity 39:54.397 --> 39:55.317 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, 100%. 39:56.178 --> 39:57.999 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, they got to keep it rolling tomorrow. 39:58.119 --> 39:59.599 [SPEAKER_02]: And this is going to be a tough one. 40:00.200 --> 40:02.501 [SPEAKER_02]: So again, another seven, 10 starts. 40:02.601 --> 40:09.764 [SPEAKER_02]: Sunny Grey going for the Red Sox, but he's going up again, Sean Burke, who has been absolutely filthy for the White Sox's season. 40:09.784 --> 40:12.886 [SPEAKER_02]: He's coming off of back to back, 10 strike out performances. 40:13.506 --> 40:15.227 [SPEAKER_02]: One against Houston, one against the Yankees. 40:15.307 --> 40:19.269 [SPEAKER_02]: So, and Sunny Grey, last couple of starts has been a little bit shaky. 40:19.329 --> 40:23.571 [SPEAKER_02]: So, not sure how we feel about this one, Doug, I'll start with you, I need to feel about tomorrow. 40:24.438 --> 40:25.399 [SPEAKER_00]: I feel great about it. 40:26.719 --> 40:28.480 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's go, let's go, let's go. 40:28.800 --> 40:30.281 [SPEAKER_00]: Sonny, great back on track. 40:30.321 --> 40:31.502 [SPEAKER_00]: The offense is rolling. 40:31.962 --> 40:33.283 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't care who's on the mound. 40:33.883 --> 40:40.707 [SPEAKER_00]: Where their nervous is taking the mound after a game like this after seeing us, what we're doing. 40:41.147 --> 40:46.531 [SPEAKER_00]: We're putting fear into teams and finger pitchers and our pitches are taking the mound with full confidence. 40:47.471 --> 40:49.632 [SPEAKER_00]: And I think Sonny, great gets back on track at home. 40:50.353 --> 40:52.514 [SPEAKER_00]: And we keep this train rolling. 40:54.503 --> 41:02.187 [SPEAKER_01]: We didn't have to ask Doug he we knew what he was going to say we always did he always go sweep and you know what he's been on the money lately so good for you, Dougie. 41:03.547 --> 41:13.132 [SPEAKER_01]: I want to pick them tomorrow, but just the the baseball fan and me understands kind of the love averages right and I just think we are just do for a loss. 41:13.152 --> 41:13.752 [SPEAKER_01]: I hate to say it. 41:13.772 --> 41:17.614 [SPEAKER_01]: I know we just dipped into the bullpen early tonight Jason your numbers. 41:17.634 --> 41:20.455 [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't realize I don't know a ton about this white stock starter tomorrow. 41:20.875 --> 41:36.848 [SPEAKER_01]: Gray has looked like he's been stumbling a little bit just not as crisp as he was for most of the the beginning of the season here I'll pick the white socks tomorrow and the red socks come back and when the rubber matching game three because I do like the match up a lot on Thursday 41:37.748 --> 41:40.750 [SPEAKER_01]: But I wouldn't be surprised if the Red Sox went to Mara. 41:40.790 --> 41:41.390 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm all for it. 41:41.690 --> 41:47.693 [SPEAKER_01]: Give me another sweep, but the just the overall understanding of how baseball works, you know, no team. 41:48.513 --> 41:50.654 [SPEAKER_01]: Just this run, I still kind of can't believe it. 41:50.694 --> 41:56.257 [SPEAKER_01]: So I think we're due for a loss tomorrow, but it shouldn't disrupt us in the long run. 41:56.337 --> 41:57.417 [SPEAKER_01]: So I think we win. 41:57.497 --> 41:59.038 [SPEAKER_01]: We circle back with another one after that. 41:59.058 --> 42:01.379 [SPEAKER_01]: We take two out of three here for the White Sox. 42:02.931 --> 42:13.498 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I would love to pick a sweep, but I, you know, I think I worry about with tomorrow is, you know, with the right hand or graving on the mound, the white sucks, you can put some of those left hand hitters back in the lineup. 42:13.919 --> 42:15.760 [SPEAKER_02]: So you'll probably see Ben and 10 need tomorrow. 42:16.093 --> 42:17.594 [SPEAKER_02]: You'll see Tristan Peters tomorrow. 42:18.455 --> 42:25.859 [SPEAKER_02]: I think they'll have a slightly stronger line up against the righty than they did tonight against Sandeball and then they will Thursday against Ranger Suarez. 42:25.919 --> 42:29.342 [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, I think the White Sox will get to gray a little bit. 42:29.442 --> 42:38.187 [SPEAKER_02]: Again, I would love for Sunny Gray to go back to pre-all star game, Sunny Gray where he was, you know, should have been on the team and was pitching like a saiyon. 42:38.908 --> 42:40.489 [SPEAKER_02]: If he does that, then that's great. 42:40.589 --> 42:40.789 [SPEAKER_02]: But, 42:41.345 --> 42:56.095 [SPEAKER_02]: Last couple of stars have just been a little too shaky for me and I don't know what to expect against Sean Burke, you know, with this offense, I mean, who knows they could jump on him right like he might go from back to back 10 strike out performances to giving up 10 runs in the first inning tomorrow. 42:56.175 --> 43:00.979 [SPEAKER_02]: So who knows, but I just worry about sunny gray against that line up a little bit. 43:01.059 --> 43:03.921 [SPEAKER_02]: So I'll pick the white socks tomorrow, but I agree with Matt. 43:03.941 --> 43:05.542 [SPEAKER_02]: I think red socks will take Thursday. 43:06.102 --> 43:09.025 [SPEAKER_02]: I think swars will do just fine against that line of pee. 43:09.266 --> 43:14.732 [SPEAKER_02]: By the way, he's the most unbothered human in that dugout, just smack it away on a PB&J. 43:14.772 --> 43:17.354 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, the red socks are scoring 14 runs. 43:17.414 --> 43:21.659 [SPEAKER_02]: So he looks like I was not afraid to go up against Luis Castillo on Thursday. 43:21.719 --> 43:25.924 [SPEAKER_02]: So looking like it'll be a serious split, but again, hope I'm wrong. 43:26.064 --> 43:27.065 [SPEAKER_02]: We'd love to see you sweet. 43:27.843 --> 43:28.623 [SPEAKER_02]: We'll see what happens. 43:28.763 --> 43:31.364 [SPEAKER_02]: We will be back on the air after Thursday's game. 43:31.504 --> 43:34.265 [SPEAKER_02]: So we'll take the night off tomorrow, back Thursday night. 43:34.345 --> 43:39.207 [SPEAKER_02]: So keep an eye on your YouTube feeds for when we go live and love to have you guys hang out with us as always. 43:39.247 --> 43:41.408 [SPEAKER_02]: Always been a great conversation in the chat room.