WEBVTT 00:09.102 --> 00:27.613 [SPEAKER_02]: why is up everybody welcome to comic book club on Alex I'm Justin I'm Pete and we are coming to you live with a couple of places on the internet maybe you're watching us on a YouTube Facebook linked in Twitch Instagram maybe you're listening later on the podcast platform of your choice 00:28.173 --> 00:38.756 [SPEAKER_02]: If so, you can get ad free versions of this podcast and all the podcasts we do at patreon.com slash comic book club I mentioned once a month, we pay tribute to our patreon supporters Sure, right dollars it up. 00:38.776 --> 00:40.437 [SPEAKER_02]: We'll be doing that at the end of the show. 00:40.477 --> 00:51.640 [SPEAKER_02]: So stay tuned for a list of names of thank yous at the end there But before we get into it just and you got a huge staircase going on over you Huh, what's going on? 00:52.140 --> 00:53.141 [SPEAKER_03]: And just to follow up. 00:53.161 --> 00:57.042 [SPEAKER_02]: You got to be boxed at that house or anything good out there Just do it just one more 00:57.842 --> 01:10.109 [SPEAKER_04]: This is the really good Little behind the scenes, this is just what we do here Say things like I'm in the the overlook lads from the shining Which character am I? 01:10.229 --> 01:11.609 [SPEAKER_04]: Let's find out. 01:11.709 --> 01:14.591 [SPEAKER_03]: I got to go old lady at a bathtub No, I'm going bartender. 01:14.671 --> 01:15.791 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going bartender. 01:15.831 --> 01:16.632 [SPEAKER_02]: Let's be guests. 01:16.852 --> 01:17.052 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I see! 01:17.072 --> 01:17.693 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm a ghost, I'm a dead ghost. 01:17.713 --> 01:31.510 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't think, I don't think, I don't think, I don't think, I don't think, I don't think, I don't think, I don't think, I don't think, I don't think, I don't think, I don't think, I don't think, I don't think, I don't think, I don't think, I don't think, I don't think, I don't think, I don't think, I don't think, I don't think, I don't think, I don't think, I don't think, I don't think, I don't think, I don't think, I don't think, I don't think, I don't think, I don't think, I don't think, I don't think, I don't think, I don't think, I don't think, I don't think, I don't 01:32.296 --> 01:33.937 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, we'll be happy to establish that. 01:34.017 --> 01:34.757 [SPEAKER_02]: That's all good. 01:34.797 --> 01:36.057 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm glad we talked about that. 01:36.698 --> 01:37.698 [SPEAKER_04]: I'll work in no play. 01:37.718 --> 01:38.979 [SPEAKER_04]: Make Justin a double. 01:39.419 --> 01:40.239 [SPEAKER_02]: It's true. 01:40.379 --> 01:42.460 [SPEAKER_02]: So let's get to the play portion of the podcast. 01:42.480 --> 01:45.921 [SPEAKER_02]: We did great guests that we have for you this evening. 01:46.321 --> 01:48.762 [SPEAKER_02]: They are to the guys behind the new book. 01:48.782 --> 01:49.843 [SPEAKER_02]: The smart division. 01:50.263 --> 01:53.184 [SPEAKER_02]: But it's coming from dark horse tomorrow. 01:53.224 --> 01:53.944 [SPEAKER_02]: It's coming out. 01:54.064 --> 01:54.945 [SPEAKER_02]: It's the first tomorrow. 01:54.965 --> 01:56.305 [SPEAKER_02]: We're going to talk about it today. 01:56.325 --> 01:57.546 [SPEAKER_02]: Ladies and gentlemen. 01:57.746 --> 01:59.986 [SPEAKER_02]: Zach Kaplan and a John J. Pearson. 02:02.627 --> 02:04.208 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, hey, what's up? 02:04.949 --> 02:06.730 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm excited to have you guys here, Zach. 02:06.850 --> 02:07.971 [SPEAKER_02]: Welcome back. 02:08.211 --> 02:09.412 [SPEAKER_02]: Can you talk about another book? 02:09.772 --> 02:13.434 [SPEAKER_02]: This is part of your continuing deal with Dark Horse. 02:13.454 --> 02:15.776 [SPEAKER_02]: You got a whole slate of books going on with them. 02:15.796 --> 02:17.977 [SPEAKER_02]: Do you have a label or anything? 02:17.997 --> 02:20.279 [SPEAKER_02]: Do you have like the sack pack or anything like that? 02:20.319 --> 02:21.960 [SPEAKER_02]: No, that was. 02:22.680 --> 02:23.781 [SPEAKER_06]: I need to design that. 02:23.801 --> 02:25.782 [SPEAKER_06]: I need to, I need to brand it and all. 02:25.842 --> 02:27.804 [SPEAKER_06]: No, I don't have anything like that yet. 02:27.864 --> 02:28.524 [SPEAKER_06]: Give me some time. 02:28.864 --> 02:29.405 [SPEAKER_06]: All right, all right. 02:30.685 --> 02:31.786 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, let's talk about this book. 02:32.026 --> 02:32.686 [SPEAKER_02]: This is a great book. 02:32.706 --> 02:35.627 [SPEAKER_02]: We did have a chance to read it in advance. 02:35.667 --> 02:37.587 [SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot of twists and turns in it. 02:38.508 --> 02:47.271 [SPEAKER_02]: To gesture at what's going on in the plot, but that's probably anything because I don't know how much we want to talk about, but it's about two investigators, the team up because of a murder. 02:47.731 --> 02:48.111 [SPEAKER_02]: They, 02:49.192 --> 02:50.873 [SPEAKER_02]: come from very different backgrounds. 02:50.893 --> 02:53.514 [SPEAKER_02]: What if it was like sort of more of the uptight investigator? 02:53.574 --> 02:58.136 [SPEAKER_02]: The other is the loose, more cyber friendly investigator. 02:58.556 --> 03:03.098 [SPEAKER_02]: And somewhere in the background there is something going on with a little bit of the old AI. 03:03.858 --> 03:05.539 [SPEAKER_02]: What can you tell us other than that? 03:05.579 --> 03:08.420 [SPEAKER_02]: Because again, I'm being vague because part of the joy of the issue is 03:08.560 --> 03:10.941 [SPEAKER_06]: We put out some stuff. 03:10.962 --> 03:20.747 [SPEAKER_06]: There's a preview out previously if with the first 10 pages or so that the do a pretty good job of establishing the premise and then it'll be out tomorrow. 03:20.787 --> 03:24.009 [SPEAKER_06]: But yeah, it is what would happen if people started using AI. 03:25.210 --> 03:41.523 [SPEAKER_06]: to commit crimes, and this is a mystery detective thriller told with two FBI agents, as you said, very different styles, different characters, different points of view, facing this brand new threat that feels like it's five seconds in the future. 03:41.923 --> 03:47.728 [SPEAKER_06]: And, you know, right now, Chatchee, BT, and these apps have guardrails, but what if they didn't? 03:47.868 --> 03:54.533 [SPEAKER_06]: What if someone was developed, you know, got a version of that out there, and you could you could plan the perfect crime. 03:54.933 --> 03:57.334 [SPEAKER_04]: And sorry, I just got an update that this is real now. 03:57.354 --> 04:18.503 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, but just have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have 04:18.723 --> 04:19.864 [SPEAKER_02]: to count. 04:19.924 --> 04:25.448 [SPEAKER_02]: Did you have to change anything or feel it necessary to change anything as you're going along? 04:25.868 --> 04:28.370 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, we I did have to adapt kind of the 04:30.901 --> 04:48.742 [SPEAKER_06]: how we present AI and I think that before it was done as something that maybe I mean from my own knowledge, it was kind of being developed by tech companies and that's not the case anymore now it's being developed by everybody from some guy and his basement to 04:49.543 --> 04:51.543 [SPEAKER_06]: freelancers and coders all around the world. 04:52.124 --> 04:55.504 [SPEAKER_06]: Everybody is working to further AI AI start up. 04:55.544 --> 04:58.565 [SPEAKER_06]: So we definitely modified the story in that regard. 04:58.585 --> 05:03.186 [SPEAKER_06]: And then I think something else that kind of injected into the story as we go is the absurdity. 05:03.986 --> 05:05.547 [SPEAKER_06]: This is a very scary technology. 05:05.587 --> 05:09.348 [SPEAKER_06]: But we've all dabbled with it and tried to talk to AI. 05:09.468 --> 05:10.808 [SPEAKER_06]: And sometimes it's really dumb. 05:11.368 --> 05:14.269 [SPEAKER_06]: And it's really, it's kind of absurd. 05:14.409 --> 05:17.490 [SPEAKER_06]: And so it's really kind of funny that there's this really powerful tool 05:20.232 --> 05:29.092 [SPEAKER_06]: not very smart at times and so yeah we definitely tried to keep it as modern and and and and a true to right now as possible. 05:29.818 --> 05:35.662 [SPEAKER_02]: John, I want to talk to you about the look of the book for a bit because it really doesn't look like anything else. 05:35.802 --> 05:38.985 [SPEAKER_02]: There is a little bit of tech. 05:39.285 --> 05:50.973 [SPEAKER_02]: It feels like going on there, you know, certainly that comes through the lettering as well, which I know is now exactly a department, but there's almost like a layered look to it at points where there's things on top of things on top of other things. 05:51.734 --> 05:53.015 [SPEAKER_02]: What was sort of like the, 05:55.152 --> 06:01.560 [SPEAKER_02]: The main thing that you were thinking about before even sat down to approach this to sort of develop the look of this book. 06:02.121 --> 06:07.547 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I knew I wanted it to be analog, so I wanted the whole story about AI. 06:08.028 --> 06:10.891 [SPEAKER_00]: So, because it's dealing with the, um, 06:11.793 --> 06:15.895 [SPEAKER_00]: The digital and dealing with our interaction with it, I knew I wanted the artwork to contrast that. 06:15.935 --> 06:18.116 [SPEAKER_00]: So I wanted it to be hand painted. 06:18.576 --> 06:25.579 [SPEAKER_00]: So all of the artwork in it is painted traditionally and then scanned and then just digitally colored. 06:25.599 --> 06:30.462 [SPEAKER_00]: So that's why you can kind of see the paper texture and you can kind of feel the brush strokes. 06:30.482 --> 06:32.803 [SPEAKER_00]: And one of that to be a nice juxtaposition with, 06:33.423 --> 06:38.664 [SPEAKER_00]: this dialogue that we're having with a reader about AI, about the influences of it. 06:38.844 --> 06:50.627 [SPEAKER_00]: Also, the whole story is this kind of, it's set in the real world and it's basically set now, or in the past is what now find it because it's happened. 06:51.947 --> 06:54.288 [SPEAKER_00]: So I wanted it to feel tangible. 06:54.308 --> 06:54.928 [SPEAKER_00]: I wanted you to 06:56.368 --> 07:00.892 [SPEAKER_00]: kind of have that tactile core to it, so it's something that you can treat your teeth into. 07:00.912 --> 07:10.119 [SPEAKER_00]: Especially because it's set in DC and it's dealing with themes of urban decay and this kind of chaotic life around everybody. 07:10.299 --> 07:12.941 [SPEAKER_00]: I wanted that to come across him in how it's done. 07:13.621 --> 07:22.048 [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, that's the main thing that I wanted it to, I definitely wanted to feel feel real and feel great in how it was done. 07:22.722 --> 07:35.061 [SPEAKER_05]: it really comes across I mean I love the you know there's almost like water color pages it's just such a cool tone and vibe I also love the layout it's so artistic forward 07:36.922 --> 07:41.967 [SPEAKER_05]: Did you guys like fight over pages was it like hey, I'm going to give you like 80 splash pages. 07:42.047 --> 07:52.016 [SPEAKER_05]: It's it's really just impressive The the just the way the art leads the story in this well we have a history this is our second book and our first book was a book 07:53.337 --> 08:12.063 [SPEAKER_06]: uh... is a twenty two four years ago uh... with vault commerce called mine set and we both fell in love with playing with form and kind of breaking uh... breaking layout and and kind of finding innovative ways to tell stories and so what's great now is that you know starting this 08:12.803 --> 08:15.046 [SPEAKER_06]: We knew from the get go that we were going to do more of that. 08:15.746 --> 08:25.676 [SPEAKER_06]: I even have such a We've developed such a collaborative back and forth that Wrath there then just go and write things and then just hand-descript over. 08:26.077 --> 08:31.542 [SPEAKER_06]: There's a lot of Earlier conversations that take place where I'm talking to John and saying okay, here's 08:32.143 --> 08:59.348 [SPEAKER_06]: here's the idea behind this page and he's saying okay well here's what we can do and he's almost informing the way I might write to the script no because it you know it's all beat set up so it's it's very entrenched in making sure that that John is set up to to do just these amazing things with the artwork it's really refreshing just kind of reading it and it's just you know it's someone who reads a lot of comic books it was just such a breath of fresh air and such a fun world to jump into. 08:59.669 --> 09:13.579 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I mean, just on that, it feels like the, especially the faces, we're seeing a couple of pages here if you're watching on video, but like, there's a photo-realistic quality to the way, the detail which the faces are drawn and painted. 09:14.039 --> 09:17.201 [SPEAKER_04]: And then, yet, there's this abstraction in the, in the, in the lot of the backgrounds. 09:17.241 --> 09:19.623 [SPEAKER_04]: There's like color fields and stuff that give it this, 09:20.323 --> 09:33.106 [SPEAKER_04]: Like you're talking about matching the theme of like, this isn't happening now, but it's so close in the future, you can see the faces like a dream, just not, not everything is as clear and sharp as reality is yet. 09:33.986 --> 09:35.427 [SPEAKER_04]: And that's really matters. 09:35.887 --> 09:38.747 [SPEAKER_00]: That's exactly my intention with it. 09:38.807 --> 09:47.969 [SPEAKER_00]: So it's, I really like the mixture of the realism elements and the abstraction because so much what I do is emotional storytelling. 09:50.630 --> 10:01.833 [SPEAKER_00]: And then a focus on the faces, the hands, and what the characters are feeling, or what they're, what's implied that they're feeling, and the realism comes from, I cast models now. 10:01.873 --> 10:10.735 [SPEAKER_00]: So in each of my clients now, I'll kind of find people who are like, I'll base the characters on and I'll shoot reference with them. 10:11.435 --> 10:23.741 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, so I'm slowly turning into more of a director, but it means that I'll have a solid framework to then take more ricks in it. 10:23.761 --> 10:32.806 [SPEAKER_00]: So the deal case spread where it's um, the character will meet in his door around the on the streets on a birthday. 10:32.826 --> 10:40.330 [SPEAKER_00]: So that was, it was kind of two people that I've felt referenced for all the characters in that, but it meant that I could 10:41.130 --> 10:59.698 [SPEAKER_00]: have the lengths as the expressions fairly accurate but then do something with this bread where it's so will's devoid of color where everything around him is vibrant and he's done in this almost overly rendered way whereas his daughter and his people are in a loose moral kind of scratchy approach. 11:00.138 --> 11:08.181 [SPEAKER_00]: So it's about having that framework and then I can push against that and it can still kind of exist in a way where people hopefully are going to pick up and be like 11:11.043 --> 11:15.066 [SPEAKER_00]: uh, interesting to read, but still exists within the wrong moments. 11:15.987 --> 11:16.187 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 11:16.487 --> 11:23.272 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, Zach, just to stay out of that page a bit, and John, thank you for talking through this, because that's what I was going to kind of prod you to do next anyway. 11:23.633 --> 11:36.982 [SPEAKER_02]: From your direction, for something like this and for anybody's listening, just to lay it out, there's these series of panels where Will is talking to his daughter, but that it's him walking away, essentially, doing the evolution of man, but also disappearing 11:39.340 --> 11:39.580 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 11:40.040 --> 11:43.062 [SPEAKER_02]: We're, we're to that come from like, what is the genesis of that? 11:43.462 --> 11:53.967 [SPEAKER_06]: I think first off, this scene is so subtextual, so John gets all the layers from me having these, from us having these conversations. 11:55.188 --> 11:56.589 [SPEAKER_06]: prematurely ahead of time. 11:56.869 --> 12:09.196 [SPEAKER_06]: So he knows that this is a moment where we're introducing a character that feels disconnected, that feels void of life, that's disillusioned and cynical, and then that gets baked into all these amazing artistic choices. 12:09.817 --> 12:12.578 [SPEAKER_06]: It's not in the dialogue or in the panel description. 12:12.678 --> 12:13.519 [SPEAKER_06]: It's in the 12:13.979 --> 12:28.871 [SPEAKER_06]: It's the subtext and so what's so great is to be able to convey that and then see all these artistic choices amplify that actually interesting enough here this dialogue as this voiceover that's talking about evolution 12:30.412 --> 12:31.093 [SPEAKER_06]: of how we got. 12:31.553 --> 12:50.322 [SPEAKER_06]: I think I added this after seeing John take him into the crowd in this way, and it was done in such a way that it made me think, and so I adapted it to lend its of more to kind of a metaphor for evolving or de-volving as you just lose yourself in the crowd. 12:50.583 --> 12:54.024 [SPEAKER_06]: So I think I had had some of that dialogue, but it wasn't really framed that way. 12:54.064 --> 12:54.545 [SPEAKER_06]: It was John's 12:58.679 --> 13:20.649 [SPEAKER_02]: uh... the other thing going on here of course as you got these two characters who are stuck in this detective slash spy slash tech thriller um... we talked about will a little bit but we have another character here who is this not necessarily hacker but like she certainly knowledgeable about hacking about cybercrime et cetera i was important to capture in her 13:21.907 --> 13:31.733 [SPEAKER_06]: I think her, her, her, you know, I pitched both of them as kind of saying Will Bailey has worked in the FBI and law enforcement for 20 years. 13:31.773 --> 13:35.615 [SPEAKER_06]: So he's seen it all completely decay, and this is why he's giving up. 13:36.215 --> 13:41.659 [SPEAKER_06]: And Stevie is a young woman in her early 20s, and she is watched as a child. 13:42.379 --> 13:46.901 [SPEAKER_06]: the system decay and all her institutions decay and that's why she's not giving up. 13:47.261 --> 13:50.902 [SPEAKER_06]: And so they're both looking at the exact same world and the exact same problem. 13:51.222 --> 13:58.304 [SPEAKER_06]: But she's someone that is very headstrong and determined to do whatever it takes to catch bad guys and make the world a better place. 13:58.424 --> 13:59.965 [SPEAKER_06]: She's playing by her own set of rules. 14:00.385 --> 14:01.305 [SPEAKER_06]: She's reckless. 14:01.385 --> 14:02.626 [SPEAKER_06]: She's willing to use AI. 14:02.646 --> 14:05.307 [SPEAKER_06]: She's willing to skirt the legal line. 14:05.347 --> 14:06.507 [SPEAKER_06]: She does whatever it takes. 14:06.567 --> 14:08.168 [SPEAKER_06]: And in some ways that's admirable. 14:08.568 --> 14:11.329 [SPEAKER_06]: And in some ways you are worried about her. 14:12.129 --> 14:27.878 [SPEAKER_06]: You know, so it was a very fascinating character to develop and rather than kind of she's the one that's tech savvy, but it's not in like she's not a hacker as much as you don't get the sense that she knows 14:28.858 --> 14:29.739 [SPEAKER_06]: a crazy amount. 14:29.779 --> 14:31.520 [SPEAKER_06]: There are people in the story that know more than her. 14:31.580 --> 14:33.541 [SPEAKER_06]: She's comfortable with you. 14:33.601 --> 14:34.281 [SPEAKER_04]: She's aware. 14:34.301 --> 14:35.282 [SPEAKER_06]: She's aware. 14:35.322 --> 14:35.802 [SPEAKER_06]: She grew up. 14:36.082 --> 14:39.424 [SPEAKER_06]: She grew up using computers and so she's not. 14:39.844 --> 14:43.626 [SPEAKER_06]: She doesn't look at computers and worry about what they're doing to our society. 14:43.926 --> 14:45.307 [SPEAKER_06]: She sees it and says they're here. 14:45.647 --> 14:47.808 [SPEAKER_06]: So whatever I want to do, I might as well use it. 14:48.309 --> 14:52.911 [SPEAKER_02]: She has like a high score on candy crush, but not like a kid. 14:52.971 --> 14:54.312 [SPEAKER_03]: That's the brahmeter. 14:54.932 --> 14:55.513 [SPEAKER_03]: That's right. 14:57.392 --> 15:05.255 [SPEAKER_04]: When I was reading this first issue, I was thinking about the ex files in a way that felt like, you know, we don't have that really anymore. 15:05.275 --> 15:08.977 [SPEAKER_04]: And it's something that people are rewatching so hard right now. 15:09.137 --> 15:12.318 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know if it's literally right this moment. 15:12.378 --> 15:14.339 [SPEAKER_04]: But I hear so many people are like, I'm rewatching the ex files. 15:14.359 --> 15:16.700 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm like, that's a weird thing to dive back into. 15:17.120 --> 15:22.783 [SPEAKER_04]: But this felt like a very, like an updated, very modern version of that, where you're flipping the dynamic a bit. 15:23.431 --> 15:24.711 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, they're two different characters. 15:24.731 --> 15:26.192 [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, he's very rational. 15:26.212 --> 15:28.053 [SPEAKER_06]: She's very driven by our heart. 15:28.093 --> 15:31.554 [SPEAKER_06]: They certainly have kind of different worldviews, very different approaches. 15:32.014 --> 15:36.456 [SPEAKER_06]: So in some ways, in the kind of the most classic packaging, it is kind of like that. 15:36.476 --> 15:38.476 [SPEAKER_06]: And they are both taking on a case together. 15:38.516 --> 15:40.637 [SPEAKER_06]: And they're going to have different strengths and different weaknesses. 15:41.057 --> 15:42.478 [SPEAKER_06]: I think where else we like to... 15:42.998 --> 15:57.825 [SPEAKER_06]: to point that we're kind of also taking this story into as a little true detective in the sense that you don't know if this pair is going to work out, molder and scholarly scully come together and you kind of feel comfortable with them very early on and you're like, okay, they're very different, but they're going to be okay together. 15:57.985 --> 15:59.826 [SPEAKER_06]: And these two, you don't, you don't know. 15:59.926 --> 16:07.749 [SPEAKER_06]: And we like that, we like that uncertainty to this pairing, like they may get themselves into some trouble because they're a bit more unusual. 16:07.789 --> 16:08.870 [SPEAKER_06]: But that feels more modern. 16:09.510 --> 16:15.436 [SPEAKER_06]: and more of the of the now to have two characters that that don't totally sync up. 16:15.456 --> 16:20.120 [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like I already know the answer to this based on what both of you have been saying, but give it the subject matter. 16:20.320 --> 16:25.445 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm inclined to ask, how do you feel about usage of AI in your fields? 16:27.527 --> 16:29.329 [SPEAKER_00]: John, well, I mean you you just 16:30.762 --> 16:45.676 [SPEAKER_00]: You can't use it in comics, like, and that's not just my opinion, it's like publishers will not let you use it even if you wanted to, like it's a contractual application, but aside from that, I feel like it's... 16:47.798 --> 16:59.274 [SPEAKER_00]: It's just not only detrimental because it all looks shit, but it's like why would you want to take out the fun part of making art when you can just push a button and do it? 16:59.314 --> 17:00.716 [SPEAKER_00]: That's not what it's about. 17:00.796 --> 17:04.240 [SPEAKER_00]: It's about the process and it's about the creation of something. 17:06.002 --> 17:21.652 [SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, aside from all of the kind of ethical issues to do with it and everything else, it's just so fundamentally the opposite of what creativity should be that it's just ridiculous to me. 17:22.532 --> 17:37.497 [SPEAKER_00]: I can see why people would want to use it because I think people struggle with when it comes to what they're trying to get that image that you have in your head on the paper when you're creating artwork with AI, like that's easier to do. 17:37.557 --> 17:43.920 [SPEAKER_00]: So I can see why they would want to do that, but it's again, that's not creativity. 17:44.140 --> 17:48.081 [SPEAKER_00]: That's just trying to kind of get from me to be 17:51.147 --> 18:12.181 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I mean, I think with this, you know, this is such a good example of why you wouldn't want to use AI for this process because we're trying to do so many things that go the way you don't think they're going to go and and you know come up with unique narrative approaches and AI and it's very design as an aggregator. 18:12.241 --> 18:17.064 [SPEAKER_06]: It's looking at everything and telling you the the the most straight line that you could go down. 18:17.124 --> 18:18.305 [SPEAKER_06]: So you're going to get the most. 18:19.085 --> 18:37.960 [SPEAKER_06]: familiar formulaic package sort of thing even if you tell a I don't give me the most film you familiar formulaic package thing it's still going to give you the most familiar non familiar way to go it just doesn't know how to do left turns and and to do unique things and it's not indicative of our voice I mean I think 18:38.620 --> 18:44.682 [SPEAKER_06]: people who have read, you're John and I both have a number of books out that we've done over the years. 18:45.002 --> 18:57.246 [SPEAKER_06]: I think people who have read our work are going to read this and go, this is really Zach and John, like I can feel them and this is what I love about mindset and this is what I love about John's work and all those other books is what I love about Zach's voice and all of his stuff. 18:57.606 --> 19:00.908 [SPEAKER_06]: This is a very indicatively us book. 19:01.148 --> 19:01.428 [SPEAKER_06]: So, 19:02.308 --> 19:17.413 [SPEAKER_06]: I also don't worry so much because I can inherently see the value of what we bring when we do it ourselves and I can see the value of readers and shops and overall the response when we do it ourselves. 19:17.993 --> 19:22.774 [SPEAKER_06]: I don't worry about AI coming in and displacing the market in any way. 19:22.794 --> 19:26.315 [SPEAKER_06]: I don't think that readers are going to be like, I can't wait to get B2247A's new comic. 19:26.335 --> 19:26.835 [SPEAKER_06]: It's so great. 19:26.855 --> 19:27.056 [SPEAKER_06]: I love 19:32.658 --> 19:34.540 [SPEAKER_06]: No, it's not really what we do. 19:34.580 --> 19:38.303 [SPEAKER_06]: What you guys what people do is they go, oh my god So and so's got a new book. 19:38.364 --> 19:39.164 [SPEAKER_06]: I love their work. 19:39.204 --> 19:39.945 [SPEAKER_06]: I love their voice. 19:40.005 --> 19:40.866 [SPEAKER_06]: I connect with this. 19:40.906 --> 19:50.476 [SPEAKER_04]: This is what I want more of so I found the most mediocre story with mediocre art I love it Yeah, it's perfect It's right in the middle. 19:51.057 --> 19:51.297 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah 19:52.514 --> 19:59.707 [SPEAKER_02]: One other aspect that I think you mentioned, so I feel comfortable venturing is the AI at the center of the book. 19:59.807 --> 20:01.029 [SPEAKER_02]: What can you tell us about that? 20:01.069 --> 20:03.373 [SPEAKER_02]: What can you tease about that as the series continues? 20:03.915 --> 20:13.478 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, there's an AI app and someone is using it to commit crimes. 20:13.658 --> 20:18.059 [SPEAKER_06]: We don't really reveal too much in the first issue about it. 20:18.980 --> 20:28.903 [SPEAKER_06]: I think one thing I will talk a little bit about, we talked a lot about early on, like whether or not we wanted to give it a face and what sort of presence we wanted to give it, and there was a moment where we were, 20:29.343 --> 20:44.766 [SPEAKER_06]: considering personifying it or giving it some sort of representation and probably would have been a great marketing play we could have gotten the the bobble heads and all that sort of stuff designed but but we ultimately felt that like 20:45.347 --> 21:10.380 [SPEAKER_06]: it was so much scarier and more horrific for it to just exist and you don't there is it doesn't look like anything it's just it's just there it's on the other side of someone's phone and and they're just using it and it just makes it so much so much easier and I think that that that suspense that Uranus that horror of what AI represents right now that was really important to to inject into the story. 21:10.980 --> 21:19.929 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think when we were developing things like earlier, like we did a lot of kind of sketches and we had a conversation about what their I would look like. 21:20.389 --> 21:34.222 [SPEAKER_00]: But I think it is the best decision created to be made behind the scenes was to not show what it was because I think the whole story is so real that that would have just removed it from that reality. 21:34.522 --> 21:40.364 [SPEAKER_00]: in the out of my eight, like given, like this, like, unseen thing of face. 21:40.764 --> 21:43.705 [SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, all of the best horror is what you can't see. 21:43.845 --> 21:45.886 [SPEAKER_00]: It's up to you to kind of fill in. 21:45.926 --> 21:49.908 [SPEAKER_00]: I think that's the true horror of this is it's the reality of it. 21:50.448 --> 21:52.749 [SPEAKER_00]: And it affects each of us. 21:53.089 --> 21:56.050 [SPEAKER_00]: And it is something that is very much an unseen element. 21:57.235 --> 22:06.265 [SPEAKER_06]: The other thing that was really horrific about this that we tried to inject into the story in the best of ways is the inevitability of AI and our lives. 22:07.186 --> 22:12.751 [SPEAKER_06]: We used inevitability as a theme we even created an entire visual device around inevitability. 22:14.352 --> 22:20.255 [SPEAKER_06]: these panels that pop up through the story that are showing you ahead what is to come. 22:20.675 --> 22:26.158 [SPEAKER_06]: As almost deaf, you're seeing the future that's unfolding because everything is inevitable. 22:26.718 --> 22:28.779 [SPEAKER_06]: And this is a horror that 22:31.900 --> 22:33.481 [SPEAKER_06]: the characters don't get to escape. 22:33.581 --> 22:36.344 [SPEAKER_06]: This is a whore that is just forever present. 22:36.444 --> 22:39.026 [SPEAKER_06]: And it's, this is a question of how do we deal with it? 22:39.106 --> 22:40.707 [SPEAKER_06]: Not, how do we vanquish it? 22:41.668 --> 22:47.493 [SPEAKER_06]: So, you know, we don't really deep into our thoughts about AI and how to represent those things visually. 22:47.833 --> 22:58.803 [SPEAKER_06]: And, and how to, like, I guess provoke readers with that, you know what I'm saying to readers, like what, what do you guys think about this thing that's not going away, that's really scary and is really here and doesn't have a face. 23:01.021 --> 23:06.026 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I think you did a great job putting it all of it together before we start to wrap up here, though. 23:06.206 --> 23:08.528 [SPEAKER_02]: I know you both have lots of other projects. 23:08.588 --> 23:12.411 [SPEAKER_02]: Is there anything else you want to plug other than this book that people should be checking out? 23:13.108 --> 23:14.248 [SPEAKER_02]: John. 23:14.268 --> 23:30.293 [SPEAKER_00]: So last week I had another Sarah's come out issue once called the patron it's on ignition press, written by Christian Ward, it's about an art, an art dealer who put some gallery shows for his artists and then broomly murders them so the processor or what could go is up. 23:30.854 --> 23:37.636 [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah that's that's also my five issue many Sarah's and yeah that came out really, this comes out from my 23:38.756 --> 23:42.298 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I've been a busy week. 23:42.338 --> 23:44.638 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, only the savages. 23:44.718 --> 23:46.259 [SPEAKER_06]: My monster apocalypse book. 23:46.299 --> 23:49.861 [SPEAKER_06]: I talked to you guys about that back when we were just part of FLC. 23:49.881 --> 23:52.221 [SPEAKER_06]: So we've had the first two issues come out. 23:52.261 --> 23:52.722 [SPEAKER_06]: It's been. 23:54.002 --> 23:55.344 [SPEAKER_06]: a huge success. 23:55.404 --> 23:56.465 [SPEAKER_06]: It's a dark voice. 23:56.525 --> 23:57.966 [SPEAKER_06]: That's selling book this year. 23:58.006 --> 24:00.829 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, it's been really great. 24:00.929 --> 24:06.874 [SPEAKER_06]: I'm excited to follow it up with the spark division, but it's been another book that's been near and dear to my heart. 24:06.894 --> 24:07.895 [SPEAKER_06]: And a very different way. 24:07.935 --> 24:12.339 [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, these books couldn't be more different in kind of their approaches. 24:12.739 --> 24:19.585 [SPEAKER_06]: Once a very kind of big action adventure and smart division is a really kind of um. 24:20.446 --> 24:32.304 [SPEAKER_06]: you know, more grounded intense detective mystery, but they're both kind of examining the world going mad right now and and how we what are we supposed to do about that. 24:32.324 --> 24:33.506 [SPEAKER_06]: So I feel like they both feel very 24:35.745 --> 24:41.788 [SPEAKER_06]: where I'm feeling in this moment in time and kind of going like, hey, the world's gone mad, right? 24:41.828 --> 24:43.948 [SPEAKER_06]: Anyone else see this? 24:44.028 --> 24:45.029 [SPEAKER_06]: What's the deal with the world? 24:46.249 --> 24:47.310 [SPEAKER_06]: So don't be that. 24:47.330 --> 24:48.850 [SPEAKER_06]: And then I'm so only savage left. 24:48.870 --> 24:51.371 [SPEAKER_06]: We'll have another issue come out in next month. 24:51.451 --> 24:55.073 [SPEAKER_06]: And then I have a the third and final, uh, 24:55.493 --> 25:20.074 [SPEAKER_06]: season of kill all the mortals kill all mortals three will be coming out this October dropping right when New York comic on hits and really excited the the second trade is coming out in in September and so then I'll have the the third arc start right then I also have masterminds coming out is a graphic novel in October as well so a busy next few months um yeah but that's um 25:20.875 --> 25:29.879 [SPEAKER_06]: But yeah, definitely if anyone's read any of my work, whether it's mastermind's only savages, kilometers, definitely check out the smart division tomorrow, uh, it will not disappoint. 25:30.399 --> 25:32.460 [SPEAKER_06]: We're both really proud of this book. 25:33.240 --> 25:35.161 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, like we said, book is great. 25:35.281 --> 25:36.421 [SPEAKER_02]: Everybody should check it out. 25:36.781 --> 25:39.262 [SPEAKER_02]: Sounds like there's lots of stuff coming out from the Zach pack. 25:39.302 --> 25:42.684 [SPEAKER_02]: We're looking forward to all of it and more to get that ZP. 25:42.724 --> 25:47.366 [SPEAKER_06]: John, you have something that you haven't announced right for New York or something around coming up. 25:49.013 --> 26:12.777 [SPEAKER_06]: Yes, maybe, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah 26:13.477 --> 26:14.398 [SPEAKER_02]: All right, there we go. 26:14.458 --> 26:17.160 [SPEAKER_02]: Once again, that's Zach Kaplan and John Pearson. 26:17.501 --> 26:22.305 [SPEAKER_02]: The name of the book is the smart division and it is out tomorrow from Dark Horse. 26:22.645 --> 26:25.748 [SPEAKER_02]: So I had to write to your comic book shop and pick it up. 26:25.868 --> 26:27.489 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's awesome. 26:27.569 --> 26:28.390 [SPEAKER_03]: It's really good. 26:28.450 --> 26:30.271 [SPEAKER_02]: Really enjoyed it. 26:30.291 --> 26:35.556 [SPEAKER_02]: And folks, we're going to move with our next section, which is my favorite section because you all make it up. 26:35.736 --> 26:37.438 [SPEAKER_02]: It is your audience questions. 26:38.638 --> 26:39.898 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm Friday. 26:39.918 --> 26:40.418 [SPEAKER_02]: It's questions. 26:40.438 --> 26:53.561 [SPEAKER_02]: All you got to do is drop a question in the comments and we will get to it and oh, no, I forgot something actually I forgot to you say that Brett McGriss made a drink this week as well. 26:53.841 --> 26:57.782 [SPEAKER_02]: I totally blanked on that But we'll bring it up now just so we could talk about it. 26:57.962 --> 27:04.003 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry to Brett that I did do this front of the guests But the drink this you'll still send it to him, right? 27:04.963 --> 27:06.344 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I will still send it to them. 27:06.384 --> 27:06.884 [SPEAKER_02]: That's not it. 27:07.585 --> 27:08.105 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, there we go. 27:08.145 --> 27:09.045 [SPEAKER_02]: He created this call. 27:09.386 --> 27:10.546 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, kidding. 27:10.666 --> 27:14.468 [SPEAKER_02]: I know that even the drink is no AI was used in the making of this cocktail. 27:14.808 --> 27:15.529 [SPEAKER_02]: It's so perfect. 27:16.029 --> 27:25.514 [SPEAKER_02]: It's bourbon coffee liquor, agnister of orange bidders, orange simple syrup, saline solution and an orange-rind way of salty. 27:26.295 --> 27:27.355 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, there you go. 27:27.375 --> 27:30.537 [SPEAKER_05]: In solution, you should be drinking that, but you're contentizing that, right? 27:30.557 --> 27:31.978 [SPEAKER_05]: That's the ocean cocktail. 27:33.220 --> 27:33.760 [SPEAKER_05]: it's fine. 27:34.000 --> 27:36.502 [SPEAKER_04]: I love dropping my contacts in a cocktail. 27:37.062 --> 27:44.146 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, so he made this cocktail and embodies all the good things a futuristic sci-fi detective story needs, bourbon and coffee. 27:44.226 --> 27:46.488 [SPEAKER_02]: And of course, salient solution for your contacts. 27:46.868 --> 27:47.188 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yeah. 27:47.608 --> 27:48.169 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, there you go. 27:48.189 --> 27:48.769 [SPEAKER_02]: Sounds great. 27:49.770 --> 27:53.592 [SPEAKER_02]: Love it definitely better than what AI would come up with. 27:53.952 --> 27:56.834 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yeah. 27:56.854 --> 27:58.595 [SPEAKER_02]: Where are those drinking actual person? 27:58.995 --> 27:59.255 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes. 27:59.355 --> 28:00.716 [SPEAKER_02]: What are you guys drinking, Justin? 28:01.565 --> 28:03.947 [SPEAKER_04]: Um, I've got a ploma with a red line floater. 28:04.308 --> 28:05.849 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm, um, in red one. 28:05.969 --> 28:09.192 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm making sure it black a little red wine on top. 28:09.433 --> 28:10.554 [SPEAKER_04]: Give it a little bitter hit. 28:10.614 --> 28:11.074 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, real quick. 28:11.094 --> 28:12.275 [SPEAKER_05]: What did you think he'd bet? 28:12.876 --> 28:16.259 [SPEAKER_05]: I thought maybe it was like a shot floating inside of it that had wine in. 28:16.639 --> 28:17.100 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 28:17.847 --> 28:21.530 [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, yes, without the glass, so you don't chip your teeth sweet. 28:22.070 --> 28:23.531 [SPEAKER_04]: Are you doing a lot of home floaters? 28:24.011 --> 28:25.952 [SPEAKER_02]: And you're always floating man. 28:26.153 --> 28:26.953 [SPEAKER_02]: Floods about something. 28:27.013 --> 28:27.413 [SPEAKER_02]: What is it? 28:27.453 --> 28:29.715 [SPEAKER_02]: You're doing a lot of cement mixers at home and stuff? 28:30.695 --> 28:30.956 [SPEAKER_04]: Sure. 28:30.976 --> 28:32.196 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I love. 28:34.928 --> 28:38.229 [SPEAKER_04]: Well, Alex with a very frat guy answer. 28:38.269 --> 28:39.169 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, exactly. 28:39.189 --> 28:40.370 [SPEAKER_05]: Those things are discussing. 28:40.410 --> 28:41.870 [SPEAKER_05]: I love you ever tried to drink when I like it. 28:41.910 --> 28:43.751 [SPEAKER_05]: Frank shot, tried to drink. 28:43.891 --> 28:44.671 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 28:44.711 --> 28:45.911 [SPEAKER_05]: What are you drinking, Pete? 28:47.052 --> 28:49.252 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm drinking the rest of this new trail. 28:50.413 --> 28:53.333 [SPEAKER_05]: That's kind of a little, oh, he's the IPA. 28:53.353 --> 28:55.114 [SPEAKER_02]: Can I ask a question not to put your own shot too? 28:55.134 --> 28:58.655 [SPEAKER_02]: Have one beer a week now, or do you just save this for the show? 28:59.752 --> 29:06.462 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah, I'm, I usually drink vodka, so for the show, I drink beer. 29:06.882 --> 29:07.684 [SPEAKER_05]: No, interesting. 29:07.804 --> 29:08.685 [SPEAKER_05]: Okay, cool. 29:08.905 --> 29:09.306 [SPEAKER_05]: It's nice. 29:09.927 --> 29:11.329 [SPEAKER_02]: You have to keep your head on the wall. 29:11.389 --> 29:12.030 [SPEAKER_02]: So it's clear. 29:13.322 --> 29:36.206 [SPEAKER_02]: yes pizza trying to be as a straight-laced as possible for all of our important conversations here uh here we go oh this is a great question to start off with uh this is from nothing here a couple of weeks ago you reviewed a wolf man book peaton just and listed their favorite basketball passes chested bouts out of stock at a chest to say his please what is Alex is he basketball? 29:36.346 --> 29:39.107 [SPEAKER_02]: yes Alex throw out of here disney 29:40.910 --> 29:46.455 [SPEAKER_02]: Any How about me many well, my favorite is probably a hall pass. 29:46.535 --> 29:53.721 [SPEAKER_05]: I think that's Wow Oh, man pass you like when people cheat on there is Possies with somebody that with a celebrity. 29:53.781 --> 29:56.684 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah Okay, that's in the middle of the basketball game. 29:56.704 --> 30:02.188 [SPEAKER_02]: You get to do that like if you're in a basketball game Like if you're in a basketball game, like it's not so far 100% you see to be shot. 30:02.208 --> 30:03.609 [SPEAKER_02]: That's what you decide your lifetime. 30:03.689 --> 30:04.250 [SPEAKER_05]: It's go time 30:04.470 --> 30:05.971 [SPEAKER_05]: you're like, hey, tell me, guess what, you're right. 30:05.991 --> 30:09.493 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, when a player goes back to the locker room, they're having sex with his celebrity. 30:10.014 --> 30:10.954 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 30:12.115 --> 30:12.395 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 30:12.495 --> 30:13.356 [SPEAKER_02]: Guess what? 30:14.777 --> 30:16.578 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, wow, what a fun surprise. 30:16.618 --> 30:17.518 [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you for letting me know. 30:18.159 --> 30:18.979 [SPEAKER_02]: All right. 30:19.540 --> 30:23.502 [SPEAKER_02]: This is from just in, why can I not get this? 30:23.602 --> 30:25.504 [SPEAKER_02]: Just in Suka, sorry about that. 30:26.164 --> 30:31.407 [SPEAKER_02]: Has it ever been addressed that when Alex had his facial hair, who was a spinning image of DWJ? 30:31.507 --> 30:31.768 [SPEAKER_02]: Really? 30:31.788 --> 30:33.529 [SPEAKER_02]: Did I look like, did you were in Johnson? 30:34.473 --> 30:46.097 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no, no, I don't think it's a dollar, there's a, yeah, yeah, more talented, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, yeah, et cetera, et cetera. 30:47.378 --> 30:51.840 [SPEAKER_02]: This is from Shrikeler, what are your favorite non alcoholic beverages? 30:52.880 --> 30:53.340 [SPEAKER_02]: Great question. 30:53.480 --> 30:54.881 [SPEAKER_02]: Actually, I have a quick question. 30:54.961 --> 30:56.901 [SPEAKER_05]: First, just to kind of like hang on up. 30:57.182 --> 31:00.923 [SPEAKER_05]: I got a walk past an advertisement for Bureau before I can answer this. 31:01.636 --> 31:05.578 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yeah, top-all and heavily featured in Spider-Man. 31:05.598 --> 31:06.499 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, exactly. 31:06.539 --> 31:09.521 [SPEAKER_02]: We had to stop the movie for an ad, we did. 31:10.161 --> 31:15.324 [SPEAKER_02]: I will mention on Marvel Vision, we did a well over an hour talking about Spider-Man Brad Newtase. 31:15.344 --> 31:17.285 [SPEAKER_02]: He could go check that out of the Marvel Vision feed. 31:17.425 --> 31:19.206 [SPEAKER_02]: Also, you have fired up about that. 31:20.528 --> 31:25.795 [SPEAKER_02]: We've also got a very robust chat going in our Spider-Man day. 31:25.956 --> 31:27.218 [SPEAKER_02]: It's a friend of mine, brand new day. 31:27.278 --> 31:30.062 [SPEAKER_02]: Spoilers chat are thread on our discord. 31:30.082 --> 31:32.345 [SPEAKER_02]: So if you're in our Patreon, definitely head over there. 31:32.485 --> 31:33.347 [SPEAKER_02]: Bit of fun times. 31:33.447 --> 31:34.949 [SPEAKER_02]: Really fun opinions so far. 31:35.189 --> 31:35.610 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, Pete. 31:35.977 --> 31:44.366 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, just I've been reading a lot of the comments and people wanted me to be upset at you and I agree it was Bullshit you're impression of me all done. 31:44.386 --> 31:46.027 [SPEAKER_05]: You're jumping your jumping. 31:46.207 --> 31:51.413 [SPEAKER_04]: No, that was a perfect that was a perfect segment in our show And honestly, we should do that more often 31:52.834 --> 32:14.054 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, just for context there if anybody did check our Marvel vision podcast at the top of the review of Spider-Man brand new day I gave my impression of what I thought Pete was going to think while Pete had his headphones off Then I took my headphones off and Pete did his impression of What he thinks my impression of him was and he was you go back and listen to it. 32:14.114 --> 32:15.075 [SPEAKER_02]: It's amazing. 32:15.416 --> 32:16.737 [SPEAKER_02]: It's amazing how perfect it is 32:18.179 --> 32:24.824 [SPEAKER_05]: It's almost like a heart-pure gig Your impression of me, but I was upset. 32:25.204 --> 32:25.805 [SPEAKER_05]: I was upset. 32:25.825 --> 32:26.645 [SPEAKER_05]: How's it heartbreaking? 32:26.705 --> 32:28.006 [SPEAKER_05]: You knew what was he was said? 32:28.046 --> 32:32.789 [SPEAKER_05]: You didn't back to him, but he's not talking about his impression of me. 32:33.450 --> 32:37.913 [SPEAKER_05]: Was this of an ogre type character who's like, you know what I mean? 32:38.481 --> 32:44.249 [SPEAKER_04]: I have the horrible news for you, P. I'm horrible news. 32:46.232 --> 32:48.175 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, favorite non-alcoholic beverages. 32:48.195 --> 32:52.080 [SPEAKER_02]: What I'm actually going to ask you guys is, so I don't trick anymore. 32:52.921 --> 32:54.844 [SPEAKER_02]: However, in my neighborhood, they're like, 32:55.204 --> 33:01.870 [SPEAKER_02]: three or four different non-alcoholic beverage stores where they have not alcoholic liquor and beer and whatever else. 33:02.611 --> 33:08.916 [SPEAKER_02]: I always have like, I don't know if I want that, that feels like you're selling me cans of juice and that's pretty much it. 33:09.276 --> 33:11.138 [SPEAKER_02]: Have you guys seen any of these? 33:11.378 --> 33:12.859 [SPEAKER_02]: Are they any good if so? 33:14.181 --> 33:15.622 [SPEAKER_04]: Foning to groanies, excellent. 33:16.383 --> 33:16.603 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. 33:17.576 --> 33:18.457 [SPEAKER_04]: definitely. 33:19.097 --> 33:30.765 [SPEAKER_04]: I agree with you though, like if I'm going to have an a beverage I'll make something with components I have, I don't need to have a cocktail that is any, but I will say phoning agronies is a good one. 33:31.885 --> 33:40.113 [SPEAKER_05]: Okay, I sometimes mix myself with drinking don't put the vodka in there not all the time So it's just soda water then. 33:40.133 --> 33:41.134 [SPEAKER_05]: It's just soda. 33:41.675 --> 33:45.138 [SPEAKER_05]: It's uh, I'll put a little soda water a little mango juice in there. 33:45.178 --> 33:45.999 [SPEAKER_05]: You know what I mean? 33:47.220 --> 33:52.165 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I mix the flavors salsa you make yourself a flavor just to be clear. 33:52.265 --> 33:52.986 [SPEAKER_04]: It sounds like 33:53.406 --> 34:03.004 [SPEAKER_04]: Pete and I exclusively drink alcohol, but like, no, during the day I drink regular things Only when I'm doing out I'm on vacation right now. 34:03.024 --> 34:04.267 [SPEAKER_04]: So definitely cocktail time 34:05.034 --> 34:13.258 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, I mainly drink water and coffee and sometimes for a little treat, I'll have a coke, call that, that's pretty much it. 34:13.618 --> 34:21.941 [SPEAKER_05]: What about like a NW or something like that, you know, I don't pick it up, but I would certainly drink an NW if it was in front of me. 34:22.902 --> 34:26.283 [SPEAKER_04]: So favorite things though, a great fruit soda. 34:26.423 --> 34:30.405 [SPEAKER_04]: Like a, uh, uh, away from herido's excellent. 34:31.165 --> 34:34.647 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, have you ever had a real citrus fruit from Jamaica? 34:35.526 --> 34:36.406 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I love ting. 34:36.526 --> 34:40.427 [SPEAKER_04]: I live in the Caribbean side of Crown Heights, so I'm okay, tang. 34:42.527 --> 34:45.408 [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, sometimes I, I mean, it's ting, it's ting, ting, ting, tang. 34:45.488 --> 34:46.108 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, wow. 34:46.988 --> 34:49.989 [SPEAKER_03]: It's, I say, it's ting, ting, tang, tang, ting, tang, twins. 34:50.169 --> 34:51.549 [SPEAKER_02]: Ting, tang, twins are my favorite music. 34:52.269 --> 34:52.829 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, boy. 34:53.790 --> 34:54.170 [SPEAKER_02]: All right. 34:54.470 --> 34:57.090 [SPEAKER_02]: We've got another one here for bread and a holder. 34:57.210 --> 35:00.791 [SPEAKER_02]: Why have Alex and Pete replaced Justin with Robo Justin? 35:01.728 --> 35:05.710 [SPEAKER_02]: I think that it was you were breaking up a little bit, that was probably not what it is. 35:05.950 --> 35:07.710 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, no, I am a robot though. 35:08.451 --> 35:08.731 [SPEAKER_02]: What? 35:09.031 --> 35:09.851 [SPEAKER_05]: This whole time? 35:10.892 --> 35:12.052 [SPEAKER_04]: I've been a monster lately. 35:12.352 --> 35:15.253 [SPEAKER_04]: I was a much clunk year robot and then I've been straight away. 35:15.273 --> 35:19.575 [SPEAKER_05]: So you grew in patchy hair as a robot that seems like extra work. 35:20.258 --> 35:21.399 [SPEAKER_04]: That's, it is extra work. 35:21.419 --> 35:23.300 [SPEAKER_04]: That's called simulating reality. 35:23.320 --> 35:29.984 [SPEAKER_04]: Because if it was a perfect beer, there'd be two obvious, but this no one suspects except for Brandon Holder. 35:30.444 --> 35:35.307 [SPEAKER_02]: I just want to say I'm going to skip by this bet's question from Nat because we're not a sports show. 35:35.347 --> 35:38.409 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry, but he does have a comic book question. 35:39.190 --> 35:43.232 [SPEAKER_02]: Is the MC a back or is it just that Cretan is a good director? 35:43.272 --> 35:46.274 [SPEAKER_02]: We talked about this for quite a bit on the Marvel vision brand 35:48.475 --> 35:51.397 [SPEAKER_02]: I have seen quite a bit, okay, actually not quite a bit. 35:51.437 --> 35:53.339 [SPEAKER_02]: I'll say, I mentioned two specific things. 35:54.019 --> 35:56.181 [SPEAKER_02]: There is an empire article that went up. 35:56.281 --> 35:58.262 [SPEAKER_02]: It was like Marvel's back, baby. 35:58.362 --> 36:00.444 [SPEAKER_02]: Here we go, woo, everything's great again. 36:00.584 --> 36:07.208 [SPEAKER_02]: And I read the article, and it's a fine article, but also the article was like, all the movies last year were also really good. 36:07.509 --> 36:09.210 [SPEAKER_02]: And now these movies look good as well. 36:09.230 --> 36:12.112 [SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, I don't know if it's back so much as you love Marvel, buddy. 36:12.957 --> 36:26.677 [SPEAKER_02]: And then the other end of the spectrum I put I had an article that was picked up by IGN that was basically a longer version of the rat type went out of the Marvel Vision podcast about how this is the end of Marvel as we know it and this is 36:27.702 --> 36:31.668 [SPEAKER_02]: the second most comments I've ever gotten in the article. 36:32.148 --> 36:40.961 [SPEAKER_02]: The number one I'm surprised to find out is can Bucky be a congressman, even though he's 110 years old and I was like, I don't know why there are 400 something comments on this. 36:41.201 --> 36:43.644 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not going to check, but there you go. 36:44.745 --> 36:52.810 [SPEAKER_02]: but great point being like obviously it's a very small sample size but clearly like this is the conversation that's going on right now it's going to keep going on. 36:52.830 --> 37:07.578 [SPEAKER_02]: I certainly felt on the side of like no credit is a good director of people love spider bad that's pretty much the long of the short of it and Marvel still needs to prove itself but you guys kind of discreet right stop well the question be 37:11.718 --> 37:17.144 [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I, I would be curious if people would have heard the highlight. 37:17.204 --> 37:20.788 [SPEAKER_04]: All right, well, again, I got bad news for you, Alex. 37:21.168 --> 37:22.570 [SPEAKER_04]: So I had bad news for you, Alex. 37:22.830 --> 37:23.891 [SPEAKER_00]: It's true. 37:24.051 --> 37:25.153 [SPEAKER_04]: He's an older friend. 37:25.173 --> 37:31.119 [SPEAKER_05]: He's always, You call me a Gremlin, like, from Looney to him, so they're like, taking apart the plane as it's flying type of thing. 37:32.125 --> 37:35.647 [SPEAKER_02]: I was afraid to grab this movie, grab this, but Oh, works as well. 37:35.867 --> 37:36.348 [SPEAKER_02]: For sure. 37:37.108 --> 37:37.868 [SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, sorry, go ahead. 37:37.888 --> 37:41.550 [SPEAKER_04]: We did feed Pete after midnight and we paid the price for that. 37:42.711 --> 37:48.994 [SPEAKER_04]: What I was going to say is I feel like a lot of people wouldn't highlight the direction of this Spider-Man movie. 37:50.143 --> 38:01.833 [SPEAKER_04]: That's not to say he's not a good, uh, Dustin Daniel Cran is not a good director, but it's interesting, it is more the character, the actors, I think, is more of a highlightable thing. 38:02.474 --> 38:04.756 [SPEAKER_04]: That's, that's what people are coming for. 38:05.317 --> 38:05.517 [SPEAKER_04]: And, 38:07.510 --> 38:14.151 [SPEAKER_04]: It's been able to maintain the consistency of these movies through if you count the animated movies like 11 movies, right? 38:14.271 --> 38:27.634 [SPEAKER_04]: And eat their wildly different yet people except for amazing spider-man number two will keep coming out for these movies no matter what it seems Right, so I went to robot mode, so I thought we should put up the robot just now again. 38:27.794 --> 38:32.855 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, please talk really good Pete, do you have any opinions on this or do you want to just keep clicking other things? 38:33.687 --> 38:35.088 [SPEAKER_05]: I like clicking other things. 38:35.808 --> 38:36.809 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I mean, I don't. 38:37.269 --> 38:39.590 [SPEAKER_05]: I don't have it depending on this. 38:39.690 --> 38:40.790 [SPEAKER_05]: Green guys are doing great. 38:41.171 --> 38:41.431 [SPEAKER_05]: Okay. 38:41.471 --> 38:42.331 [SPEAKER_05]: Thank you. 38:42.431 --> 38:43.892 [SPEAKER_02]: This is from Brad and Holder. 38:43.932 --> 38:45.492 [SPEAKER_02]: What T-shirts are everyone wearing today? 38:45.532 --> 38:48.074 [SPEAKER_02]: Did everyone plan to wear matching black T-shirts? 38:48.154 --> 38:51.855 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, first of all, we have a text chain where we talk about our outfits before every show. 38:51.875 --> 38:53.116 [SPEAKER_02]: We should start doing that. 38:53.156 --> 38:53.936 [SPEAKER_02]: That'd be fun. 38:54.857 --> 38:55.337 [SPEAKER_02]: What do you got? 38:55.397 --> 38:57.258 [SPEAKER_02]: You rest in pieces, Justin? 38:59.740 --> 39:04.206 [SPEAKER_04]: This is the story we shot at and when I was doing the travel show, I don't want to place the party before you die. 39:05.187 --> 39:11.834 [SPEAKER_04]: A store in Richmond, Virginia, where they have a bunch of like tax Jeremy to animals and a bunch of other like interesting weird things. 39:11.955 --> 39:12.495 [SPEAKER_04]: I remember that. 39:12.615 --> 39:13.596 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's a close bot. 39:15.516 --> 39:17.558 [SPEAKER_02]: And p wearing a Wolverine shirt. 39:17.738 --> 39:18.138 [SPEAKER_03]: That's right. 39:18.578 --> 39:19.419 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, we Wolverine. 39:19.679 --> 39:21.240 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, uh watchman watch. 39:21.641 --> 39:23.182 [SPEAKER_03]: Hey, remember watchman watch. 39:23.562 --> 39:24.523 [SPEAKER_05]: Good great podcast. 39:25.163 --> 39:28.385 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, man Justin now great job on that show, by the way. 39:29.987 --> 39:30.467 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, thank you. 39:31.087 --> 39:31.788 [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, really good. 39:31.808 --> 39:33.549 [SPEAKER_02]: All right, and we got one more here. 39:33.629 --> 39:34.950 [SPEAKER_02]: This is good MCU one. 39:34.970 --> 39:38.413 [SPEAKER_02]: Do you think we'll ever get more of the teased and credit stuff from the MCU? 39:39.353 --> 39:44.317 [SPEAKER_02]: Black Knight more piped the troll or do you think these are dead and gone forever post cake? 39:46.176 --> 40:02.672 [SPEAKER_02]: And they were like, I did a list at one point that I posted on our website where they were like, I want to say conservatively, 17, but I think it was 20 something and credits seeds that have never been followed up on in any way after the end of the MCU, and it's not like. 40:03.333 --> 40:07.136 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not talking about things like an ad to drumming at the end of Ant-Madam the loss. 40:07.216 --> 40:18.146 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm talking like, oh my god, what is a barren morto saying no more sorcerers at the end of Dr. Strage that they have not followed up on since the first Dr. Strage movie. 40:18.506 --> 40:23.310 [SPEAKER_02]: They also haven't followed up on the stuff from the second Dr. Strage movie with Clea or anything like that. 40:23.650 --> 40:24.471 [SPEAKER_02]: Hercules. 40:24.491 --> 40:25.252 [SPEAKER_02]: What do you think? 40:25.292 --> 40:27.294 [SPEAKER_02]: They're just going to like, yeah, Hercules. 40:27.434 --> 40:27.995 [SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely. 40:28.135 --> 40:31.619 [SPEAKER_02]: Do you think they're just going to scrap all of that and move on or do you think they're actually? 40:32.300 --> 40:34.182 [SPEAKER_02]: Is there any that they're going to loop back to? 40:35.103 --> 40:35.583 [SPEAKER_02]: No. 40:35.623 --> 40:37.425 [SPEAKER_04]: So, hey, those were dead. 40:37.646 --> 40:38.907 [SPEAKER_04]: The instant they aired. 40:39.167 --> 40:42.411 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't think there was ever a plan to loop back to any of them. 40:44.110 --> 40:54.519 [SPEAKER_04]: Maybe the black knight was one that was a little bit more had a little bit more potential juice, just because of The actor, but like I don't know. 40:54.700 --> 41:05.910 [SPEAKER_04]: I just feel like they were all just like let's see if any of these hit and then we'll re-evaluate And meanwhile, there is a large hole in the bottom of their boat that started to take precedence. 41:06.410 --> 41:14.297 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, the thing about the black night one was that was also blade and blade is pretty much officially dead at this point Marshall Lee came out. 41:14.317 --> 41:18.520 [SPEAKER_02]: I was like I'm in a paraphrasing, but he gave it to viewers like I've moved on. 41:18.560 --> 41:28.648 [SPEAKER_02]: I've done I can't they clearly didn't want to get this done So I'm gonna go do other things and I'm done with this project, which is that's one of the most tragic parts of this whole thing. 41:28.849 --> 41:32.892 [SPEAKER_05]: It's crazy that they bustle It's an Ipe sculptor and he was like, I'm the only one 41:33.490 --> 41:33.910 [SPEAKER_05]: Just go. 41:33.930 --> 41:35.152 [SPEAKER_05]: Do you think Snipes did it? 41:35.472 --> 41:36.133 [SPEAKER_02]: He got Snipes? 41:36.613 --> 41:39.156 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he got Snipes. 41:39.316 --> 41:39.816 [SPEAKER_02]: Snipes. 41:40.317 --> 41:41.157 [SPEAKER_02]: I think, I don't know. 41:41.218 --> 41:42.379 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't have anything off ad. 41:42.399 --> 41:52.468 [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like there's a chance we could get one of them in some way, coming back, that they're like, Oh, we're got to clean this make sense for Dubes Day or see- Wait, where's there something? 41:53.289 --> 41:53.770 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know. 41:53.790 --> 41:53.850 [SPEAKER_03]: No. 41:55.401 --> 42:08.086 [SPEAKER_04]: uh... clear they're not even featuring any of the tv's the characters and tv you think they're going to do that go hard to risk something on a post-credits we're going to find out uh... where the hood went and where that magic school is they're going to follow up on that one 42:10.175 --> 42:29.148 [SPEAKER_02]: uh... no i i mean i think most of these are dead uh... fortunately uh... say it's a bummer it's a bummer they approached it that way and that is if your audience questions hairy styles still hold now for that MC u drop it's not used he has to take it off the costume sits i believe 42:30.532 --> 42:34.013 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, all right, and that's why I live here while to broke up with them. 42:34.033 --> 42:39.656 [SPEAKER_02]: Why don't we move on to our next section Which is trivia and we're that we're gonna turn over to Pete LePay. 42:40.216 --> 42:41.056 [SPEAKER_05]: All right. 42:41.076 --> 42:52.440 [SPEAKER_05]: This is part of the go back to the lovely audience It's an opportunity to win $25 free dollars to midtown comics online because if you had 25 dollars You probably want to go to a comic book shop. 42:52.881 --> 42:58.823 [SPEAKER_05]: All we need is a first-hand up a pick me And you will be entered 42:59.428 --> 43:07.630 [SPEAKER_02]: for a chance to win, and all your friends are winning, and you may or may not get this, I don't want to make it a guaranteed. 43:07.950 --> 43:10.411 [SPEAKER_03]: It's a real sweepstakes, yes. 43:10.491 --> 43:13.052 [SPEAKER_03]: We got a great holder coming in hot. 43:13.092 --> 43:16.533 [SPEAKER_05]: Coming in hot, brand the holder of our dissipating today, I love it. 43:17.270 --> 43:17.850 [SPEAKER_05]: All right. 43:18.231 --> 43:18.531 [SPEAKER_05]: All right. 43:18.551 --> 43:19.251 [SPEAKER_05]: Here we go. 43:19.451 --> 43:30.997 [SPEAKER_05]: Today's trivia is about the comic Chachu and the small nod to the legend James Handy R.A. Love June, Ragnophobia, Jumanji, and Top Gun Maverick. 43:32.037 --> 43:32.257 [SPEAKER_05]: All right. 43:32.277 --> 43:32.677 [SPEAKER_05]: Here we go. 43:32.737 --> 43:34.598 [SPEAKER_04]: Spoiling your thing, aren't you? 43:34.718 --> 43:35.879 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, you got a way for it. 43:35.899 --> 43:36.619 [SPEAKER_05]: You got a way for it. 43:36.819 --> 43:37.480 [SPEAKER_05]: Maybe I'm not. 43:37.740 --> 43:38.100 [SPEAKER_05]: Here we go. 43:38.140 --> 43:38.860 [SPEAKER_05]: Question number one. 43:47.725 --> 43:52.849 [SPEAKER_05]: B, you got to be a big fan of Tim Seely, see, Tim Neely. 43:52.869 --> 43:57.993 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, your name rhyming makes you a big fan. 43:58.053 --> 43:58.794 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they come on. 43:59.294 --> 44:02.196 [SPEAKER_03]: If you're Tim Neely, you know who Tim Seely is. 44:02.417 --> 44:05.399 [SPEAKER_03]: Do you think Pete Le Cage knows who you are? 44:07.961 --> 44:08.942 [SPEAKER_03]: Or sweet Lepe. 44:08.962 --> 44:09.903 [SPEAKER_03]: I think that's it. 44:09.923 --> 44:10.243 [SPEAKER_03]: That's it. 44:10.303 --> 44:11.364 [SPEAKER_03]: It was really nice. 44:11.444 --> 44:12.385 [SPEAKER_05]: You're talking about sweet Lepe. 44:12.405 --> 44:13.345 [SPEAKER_05]: Sweet Lepe, it's up here. 44:13.405 --> 44:14.166 [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, I'm not just... 44:16.431 --> 44:44.592 [SPEAKER_05]: uh... let's go with a let's go with a is we keep getting peela page but i want more sweet yeah i think everybody wants more of that all right question number two who is the main character in the so far gloriously looking uh... comic book chat you is it a layla a ninety-year-old pacestanny Canadian girl be bad news is we're looking for your brother big run see tiny run 44:46.149 --> 44:53.714 [SPEAKER_02]: By the way, I just want to say I love that trivia has now become two non-side sandsacres and one question that nobody can answer because they have a red comic book yet. 44:54.034 --> 44:54.614 [SPEAKER_03]: It's pretty great. 44:54.654 --> 44:55.515 [SPEAKER_03]: It comes out tomorrow. 44:55.835 --> 44:59.437 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, yeah, but if you read this list, it's you know this is information because I'm not spoiling them. 44:59.457 --> 45:00.758 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm just getting rid of the solicits. 45:01.679 --> 45:02.279 [SPEAKER_02]: All right. 45:07.322 --> 45:07.782 [SPEAKER_03]: Chachu. 45:08.443 --> 45:09.744 [SPEAKER_03]: Chachu. 45:09.764 --> 45:10.524 [SPEAKER_05]: A final answer. 45:11.065 --> 45:12.206 [SPEAKER_05]: A is correct. 45:12.266 --> 45:24.934 [SPEAKER_05]: Well done here we go last can we get a phone a friend out here from that I don't think I don't think he needs So far he's killing it and taxiing at me Who does the coloring for this so far? 45:25.034 --> 45:39.523 [SPEAKER_05]: Cool as shit looking comic jot you hand to she also worked on absolute wonder woman is it a Jordie Bellair Be you got to be freaking kidding me will what the home or see you will them frick 45:44.035 --> 45:45.036 [SPEAKER_04]: sort of get that one. 45:45.536 --> 45:46.316 [SPEAKER_04]: So here's the thing. 45:46.457 --> 45:50.219 [SPEAKER_04]: I bet we could really get a map of Pete's mind. 45:50.459 --> 45:52.200 [SPEAKER_04]: I think Pete is fully A. 45:52.220 --> 45:53.621 [SPEAKER_04]: We could make a fool. 45:53.661 --> 45:55.002 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to spoil it for anybody. 45:55.022 --> 45:58.484 [SPEAKER_02]: We could do the thing that Matt Skur does in Spider-Man present you day with Pete. 45:59.204 --> 46:00.405 [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, of course it will be real close. 46:00.985 --> 46:01.906 [SPEAKER_04]: And let's see you evolve. 46:02.506 --> 46:02.746 [SPEAKER_04]: Yes. 46:04.167 --> 46:05.208 [SPEAKER_04]: I was going with A. 46:05.888 --> 46:06.488 [SPEAKER_03]: Correct. 46:06.588 --> 46:07.489 [SPEAKER_05]: Well done, sir. 46:08.423 --> 46:10.064 [SPEAKER_02]: Alright, ready to be killed. 46:10.444 --> 46:16.126 [SPEAKER_02]: Congratulations, you are going to get a gift card from Midtown Comics, shoot us an email, and we will get that off to you. 46:16.206 --> 46:19.467 [SPEAKER_02]: Pete, what movie are you referencing? 46:19.667 --> 46:21.428 [SPEAKER_05]: Of course, Justin can guess this one. 46:21.568 --> 46:25.129 [SPEAKER_05]: It's the 1991 award winning movie, The Rocket Tier. 46:26.212 --> 46:28.313 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, one of my absolute faves. 46:28.613 --> 46:29.193 [SPEAKER_04]: There you go. 46:29.673 --> 46:30.273 [SPEAKER_02]: Great. 46:30.354 --> 46:36.636 [SPEAKER_02]: I'll move the and also a great comic book and as it turns out new comic books are coming out tomorrow. 46:36.676 --> 46:38.196 [SPEAKER_02]: What are you guys looking forward to? 46:38.236 --> 46:39.537 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh my gosh. 46:39.777 --> 46:40.377 [SPEAKER_05]: That's amazing. 46:40.437 --> 46:43.258 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm looking forward to the dead man number three. 46:43.538 --> 46:45.959 [SPEAKER_05]: I mean the team on this is unbelievable. 46:47.159 --> 46:49.660 [SPEAKER_05]: The art is just I know it's going to be great. 46:49.700 --> 46:50.941 [SPEAKER_05]: I haven't read yet, but man. 46:51.141 --> 46:52.061 [SPEAKER_05]: I know it's going to be great. 46:52.512 --> 46:54.014 [SPEAKER_05]: Of course, chat you number one. 46:54.354 --> 46:56.877 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, that's of course the team from ice cream, man, as well. 46:56.957 --> 46:57.558 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, say. 46:57.658 --> 46:59.681 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, give, give, give that a shout out. 46:59.701 --> 47:00.922 [SPEAKER_05]: That's a good point. 47:00.962 --> 47:02.484 [SPEAKER_05]: Chat you number one, great team. 47:02.764 --> 47:03.425 [SPEAKER_05]: Are the sick. 47:04.366 --> 47:10.073 [SPEAKER_02]: Wait, before you move on with that, that's written by a Mont Valani who we interviewed a while back about this book. 47:10.153 --> 47:12.436 [SPEAKER_02]: So if you want to hear a chat about the book, 47:13.116 --> 47:15.177 [SPEAKER_02]: Go back into the podcast archive. 47:15.217 --> 47:17.058 [SPEAKER_02]: We had a nice like half our chat with her. 47:17.258 --> 47:17.818 [SPEAKER_02]: Very pleasant. 47:17.838 --> 47:33.466 [SPEAKER_02]: Very nice Really really interesting to hear her talk about how she is transitioning her career from just being this Marvel on screen to making it something bigger and more and more herself So it's cool also she was talking to us from her childhood bedroom. 47:33.526 --> 47:34.406 [SPEAKER_05]: So it's super cool. 47:34.846 --> 47:39.369 [SPEAKER_03]: It was super cool What else Justin and he's a way I'd one more. 47:39.729 --> 47:41.870 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yes Ford cycle number one 47:42.893 --> 47:50.981 [SPEAKER_05]: It just how he taking my answers, you know, I don't know what this is about, but the team on this looks ridiculous. 47:51.001 --> 48:02.872 [SPEAKER_04]: Sorry to get in your head, bro, by Justin that's a Matt Kent book, which I'm very excited for that we talked to him many times about this book and others also looking forward to uncanny xman number 33. 48:02.912 --> 48:05.855 [SPEAKER_04]: I feel like gale Simone has been doing some real magic in this book. 48:06.518 --> 48:08.079 [SPEAKER_04]: Loving everything that's been happening. 48:08.119 --> 48:15.064 [SPEAKER_04]: I think this issue is a kickoff of a new arc focusing on gambit Everybody's favorite character right now for some reason 48:16.188 --> 48:20.450 [SPEAKER_04]: Also, excited to check out Fantastic Four Number 15. 48:20.610 --> 48:24.813 [SPEAKER_04]: I feel like Ryan North has been absolutely destroying these books lately. 48:25.333 --> 48:38.920 [SPEAKER_04]: Stand-alone stories that have just climbed up to the top of my stack as something I'm excited about and just ready to have my mind expanded to learn something to have a heartfelt moment. 48:39.300 --> 48:42.742 [SPEAKER_04]: He's really bringing it all, he's packed it all into these books. 48:43.487 --> 49:02.087 [SPEAKER_02]: uh I'll just add on one more to that neighborhood watch number four for those videos really fun mystery series from Sarah Galley and handing that I've really been enjoying month after month takes place with two different communities one to sort of like a grudgvy community the other is a rich called the sack 49:02.595 --> 49:03.796 [SPEAKER_02]: There's a murder that happens. 49:03.936 --> 49:05.237 [SPEAKER_02]: They're connected in some ways. 49:05.257 --> 49:08.479 [SPEAKER_02]: Are like a sagged twits at turns, very, very funny. 49:08.519 --> 49:09.200 [SPEAKER_02]: That's what they say. 49:09.840 --> 49:17.847 [SPEAKER_02]: All of those books of many more are going to be in our stack podcast that comes out Wednesday, 9 a.m. in the stack feed, and in the comic book club feed. 49:17.927 --> 49:20.829 [SPEAKER_02]: But before we go today, that's the right promise. 49:21.489 --> 49:27.414 [SPEAKER_02]: We are going to contribute to our Patreon supporters at the $5.00 and up level. 49:27.434 --> 49:30.336 [SPEAKER_02]: We do a little thank you by reading their name once a month. 49:30.856 --> 49:34.680 [SPEAKER_02]: So let's get into it kicking it off with Aaron C. Hollis. 49:35.020 --> 49:35.921 [SPEAKER_03]: Adam D'Rose. 49:36.621 --> 49:37.342 [SPEAKER_03]: Adam Hinson. 49:37.882 --> 49:38.563 [SPEAKER_03]: Adam Marx. 49:38.843 --> 49:39.744 [SPEAKER_03]: Adryl Morland. 49:40.325 --> 49:41.085 [SPEAKER_03]: Andrew Primo. 49:41.506 --> 49:42.286 [SPEAKER_03]: Andrew Tillman. 49:42.687 --> 49:43.467 [SPEAKER_03]: Astroveris. 49:43.928 --> 49:44.748 [SPEAKER_03]: Bad guys. 49:45.089 --> 49:46.350 [SPEAKER_03]: Beer cat PhD. 49:46.790 --> 49:47.851 [SPEAKER_03]: Bradley Hansen. 49:48.372 --> 49:50.754 [SPEAKER_03]: Brandon Holder, Shouts, Trivia winner today. 49:50.774 --> 49:51.955 [SPEAKER_03]: Hey! 49:52.475 --> 49:53.296 [SPEAKER_03]: Brett Gallet. 49:53.836 --> 49:54.377 [SPEAKER_03]: Brian. 49:55.482 --> 49:57.762 [SPEAKER_03]: Cameron Schrader, maybe trivia winner next week. 49:57.782 --> 49:58.463 [SPEAKER_03]: Let's try it. 49:59.623 --> 50:22.707 [SPEAKER_03]: Gary Matthews, Chad Brickett, Charles Pepper, who put a little pepper on a chin smile, Christina Runsfield, Chris Chilizzi, Clemens Louair, Corey Chichair, and of course Corey, and of course, Corey Smoker, Dakota Gade, Dan Snow, Daniel Cabral, Denny Heck, 50:23.646 --> 50:42.824 [SPEAKER_03]: David McKay, Dennis Scott, Derek Mainhart, Doug Sattoway, Doug W. Dylan L. J. Eduardo Martinez, Emmett M. Enrique Chumes, Francis Holland Camp, Gary Rom, love your comic. 50:50.480 --> 50:52.381 [SPEAKER_03]: J. G. Jake Fry. 50:52.762 --> 50:53.602 [SPEAKER_03]: James Connelly. 50:53.943 --> 50:54.863 [SPEAKER_03]: Jared Sloan. 50:55.424 --> 50:56.284 [SPEAKER_03]: Darren Townsend. 50:56.685 --> 50:57.785 [SPEAKER_03]: Jason Donahue. 50:58.086 --> 50:58.966 [SPEAKER_03]: Jeffrey Whaley. 50:59.607 --> 51:00.387 [SPEAKER_03]: Joe McKenzie. 51:00.727 --> 51:01.908 [SPEAKER_03]: Joey Esposito. 51:02.269 --> 51:03.670 [SPEAKER_03]: John Hernandez. 51:04.670 --> 51:05.651 [SPEAKER_03]: John Manuel. 51:06.372 --> 51:06.972 [SPEAKER_03]: Interesting. 51:07.552 --> 51:08.173 [SPEAKER_03]: Interesting. 51:08.193 --> 51:09.714 [SPEAKER_03]: That was heavy. 51:09.734 --> 51:10.755 [SPEAKER_03]: We should actually take that one. 51:10.775 --> 51:10.915 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 51:12.216 --> 51:13.036 [SPEAKER_02]: John Henderson. 51:13.277 --> 51:13.757 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 51:13.777 --> 51:14.798 [SPEAKER_03]: Jonathan John. 51:15.078 --> 51:15.518 [SPEAKER_03]: Josh. 51:16.179 --> 51:16.759 [SPEAKER_03]: Josh, right? 51:18.701 --> 51:19.121 [SPEAKER_03]: Kelbee. 51:19.688 --> 51:21.989 [SPEAKER_03]: Garrett, Kevin Clydrock. 51:22.529 --> 51:24.751 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, we've lost Pete Fully, Keer and Rodrick. 51:25.451 --> 51:26.311 [SPEAKER_03]: Kajoy. 51:27.332 --> 51:28.293 [SPEAKER_03]: Lance Kaminsky. 51:29.153 --> 51:29.653 [SPEAKER_03]: Le Hunt. 51:30.334 --> 51:31.214 [SPEAKER_03]: Lewana Thomas. 51:31.634 --> 51:32.375 [SPEAKER_03]: Lucas-Sink. 51:33.215 --> 51:34.116 [SPEAKER_03]: Mark Dispensa. 51:35.896 --> 51:37.817 [SPEAKER_03]: I get all of my soap out of Dispensa. 51:38.198 --> 51:39.018 [SPEAKER_03]: Mark Karilla. 51:39.138 --> 51:39.859 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, boy. 51:40.299 --> 51:41.099 [SPEAKER_03]: Matt Tyson. 51:41.639 --> 51:42.580 [SPEAKER_03]: So nice, Matt Tyson. 51:42.640 --> 51:43.741 [SPEAKER_03]: Matthew Schofield. 51:44.261 --> 51:45.121 [SPEAKER_03]: Matthew Taylor. 51:45.501 --> 51:46.262 [SPEAKER_03]: Max Baker. 51:47.318 --> 52:13.689 [SPEAKER_03]: Michael McCallough, Michael Tillman, Nathan M. Hall, Nicholas Skyler, Nick G. Nick Grayson, official CBC, Jeffrey Brands, McRez, Sharon Dix, Orlando, Hoytis, Larson, Pedro A. Rangel, provocative ambulance, very sexual read of that, Rav Mikey, Robert Patton, 52:14.763 --> 52:18.104 [SPEAKER_04]: Rocks and Tyler Careful Pete, careful Pete, are you read that name? 52:18.804 --> 52:44.171 [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, Russ Burling game and ECV analog Sam Lim Sarah Shotten-Muillard Sounder Scott Carpenter Scott England Stanley Steve Hungsberg Super sweet, shirt company Taylor Bryan The Big Flood The Twelve Batch Tom Travis Troy Mellin' Yop 52:45.635 --> 52:46.457 [SPEAKER_03]: Two month review. 52:47.379 --> 52:48.381 [SPEAKER_03]: Victor Perez. 52:48.521 --> 52:51.006 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, Buchanan, little deez. 52:51.567 --> 52:56.838 [SPEAKER_03]: William Leach, Zachary Bakman, and Zachary M. 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