WEBVTT 00:00.459 --> 00:01.840 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I go to the baseball insiders. 00:01.981 --> 00:05.384 [SPEAKER_00]: I am Adam Oneer joined as always by fan side of the MLB inside of Robert Murray. 00:05.424 --> 00:06.345 [SPEAKER_00]: Happy Tuesday. 00:06.405 --> 00:10.569 [SPEAKER_00]: We are not usually live on Tuesdays, but the train deadline is not usually on Mondays. 00:10.729 --> 00:12.591 [SPEAKER_00]: So here we are. 00:12.751 --> 00:13.292 [SPEAKER_00]: It's over. 00:13.772 --> 00:15.013 [SPEAKER_00]: The buzzer has sounded. 00:15.034 --> 00:16.195 [SPEAKER_00]: The deals are done. 00:16.595 --> 00:19.136 [SPEAKER_00]: There weren't even that many buzzer beaters yesterday, honestly. 00:19.216 --> 00:19.417 [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't. 00:19.437 --> 00:21.878 [SPEAKER_00]: It was like Lake Bashar to the Pirates late. 00:21.958 --> 00:23.859 [SPEAKER_00]: We didn't have a lot of crazy movement. 00:24.139 --> 00:27.861 [SPEAKER_00]: No Zach Granky's after the deadline was done, but plenty of teams got better. 00:28.141 --> 00:33.904 [SPEAKER_00]: A couple sellers, some reluctant ones in recent years who haven't pulled the band aid all the way off, finally did. 00:34.404 --> 00:36.566 [SPEAKER_00]: Some deadlines were less impressive than others. 00:36.586 --> 00:40.948 [SPEAKER_00]: You could have to give me a Yankees corner overpays, but somewhere worth it. 00:41.088 --> 00:48.070 [SPEAKER_00]: plenty to talk about grades to give out, executives' performances to discuss shockers to be detailed and notebooks to be opened. 00:48.410 --> 00:50.191 [SPEAKER_00]: Robert Murray, thanks for joining us. 00:50.631 --> 00:53.432 [SPEAKER_00]: Happy Tuesday, happy deadline is over day. 00:53.832 --> 00:55.772 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna have a Guinness in a cocktail tonight. 00:55.852 --> 00:57.573 [SPEAKER_00]: I assume you're probably gonna do something similar. 00:58.026 --> 00:59.747 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yesterday was steak night. 00:59.987 --> 01:04.050 [SPEAKER_01]: It was a big fat glass of wine and it was incredible. 01:04.130 --> 01:07.112 [SPEAKER_01]: And I needed it bad because it was it. 01:07.433 --> 01:07.853 [SPEAKER_01]: What's today? 01:07.953 --> 01:09.294 [SPEAKER_01]: What's today's today's Tuesday? 01:09.374 --> 01:13.717 [SPEAKER_01]: So yesterday, Sunday night in the Monday morning, I got, I think, an hour and a half asleep. 01:14.177 --> 01:17.339 [SPEAKER_01]: So I was, I was hurting yesterday, but we got through it. 01:17.359 --> 01:18.600 [SPEAKER_01]: It feels good to be over with. 01:19.121 --> 01:22.563 [SPEAKER_01]: And now I got plenty of thoughts to notebook remains full after yesterday. 01:22.623 --> 01:24.044 [SPEAKER_01]: So good to be here with you, Adam Weiner. 01:24.344 --> 01:24.845 [SPEAKER_01]: How's it going? 01:25.545 --> 01:31.306 [SPEAKER_00]: It's good full sippy cup of wine, I guess, like Sonoma's finest wine mom yesterday. 01:31.586 --> 01:34.567 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to, I got a big feast ahead of me tonight, I'm very excited. 01:34.627 --> 01:38.728 [SPEAKER_00]: But we are excited to get to the comments, get through with this fun grade show. 01:39.088 --> 01:40.948 [SPEAKER_00]: We promised a retrospective yesterday. 01:41.249 --> 01:43.829 [SPEAKER_00]: We talked about the Otani trait of the Otani trait. 01:43.849 --> 01:45.569 [SPEAKER_00]: It's Google trait yesterday. 01:45.609 --> 01:46.890 [SPEAKER_00]: We didn't talk about that at all. 01:46.910 --> 01:47.430 [SPEAKER_00]: We talked about this. 01:48.070 --> 01:48.750 [SPEAKER_00]: That didn't occur. 01:48.790 --> 01:52.132 [SPEAKER_00]: We talked about the scoobled trade yesterday and some people in the comments are like, why are you talking about this? 01:52.152 --> 01:52.973 [SPEAKER_00]: This is two days old. 01:52.993 --> 01:57.795 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, now, thankfully for all of you we're giving you the recap because we've got through the live stuff. 01:58.115 --> 01:59.536 [SPEAKER_00]: Now we get to look on a 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is direct access to Robert he'll go back and forth with you on rumors. 02:28.549 --> 02:39.913 [SPEAKER_00]: You've heard what you're you know Wanting to know more about throughout the league you get direct access to him so go ahead and try that out You can also get the baseball inside or news letter delivered your inbox place for a week at fans out of that calm back slash news letters 02:40.713 --> 02:41.013 [SPEAKER_00]: All right. 02:41.093 --> 02:44.295 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's go through some of these overall impressions. 02:44.315 --> 02:46.737 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to start with sort of the easiest most obvious. 02:46.777 --> 02:54.141 [SPEAKER_00]: What is your biggest shocker of the deadline now that the buzzer is sad or could be anything could be someone who did move didn't move Guy who didn't do enough. 02:54.281 --> 02:54.921 [SPEAKER_00]: What have you? 02:55.241 --> 02:58.503 [SPEAKER_00]: What shocked you about what went down over the weekend in yesterday? 02:59.224 --> 02:59.364 [SPEAKER_01]: Good. 02:59.384 --> 03:00.385 [SPEAKER_01]: I go with two things here. 03:00.565 --> 03:04.687 [SPEAKER_01]: Actually, well, two, it's going to be three, but technically two makes all this. 03:04.787 --> 03:05.748 [SPEAKER_00]: You go with as many as you want. 03:05.768 --> 03:09.009 [SPEAKER_00]: You can always enter these questions with double or triple of what I have for. 03:09.090 --> 03:09.410 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 03:09.430 --> 03:11.591 [SPEAKER_00]: Because it goes hand in hand. 03:11.891 --> 03:21.716 [SPEAKER_01]: One that the Cincinnati Reds did not move Tyler Stevenson and specifically also Brady Singer as well, but also that the New York Yankees did not go out and get a catcher. 03:22.037 --> 03:22.257 [SPEAKER_01]: It was 03:24.561 --> 03:28.024 [SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was a lot that the Yankees were at a catcher. 03:28.084 --> 03:29.605 [SPEAKER_01]: I thought they'd go get more bullpen out. 03:29.625 --> 03:31.466 [SPEAKER_01]: We're going straight into the Yankees talk here. 03:31.506 --> 03:32.567 [SPEAKER_01]: So don't mind me. 03:33.628 --> 03:35.710 [SPEAKER_01]: But that was a team that needed to do. 03:35.730 --> 03:36.390 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, here we go. 03:36.851 --> 03:38.552 [SPEAKER_01]: They needed to go out and be aggressive. 03:38.732 --> 03:39.473 [SPEAKER_01]: And you know what? 03:39.553 --> 03:39.933 [SPEAKER_01]: I get it. 03:39.953 --> 03:41.194 [SPEAKER_01]: The asking prices were high. 03:41.614 --> 03:48.883 [SPEAKER_01]: I heard that from all 30 teams across ball over like the last 2-3 weeks, but the reality is that you're the big bad New York Yankees. 03:48.903 --> 03:50.645 [SPEAKER_01]: You need to operate like a big market team. 03:51.226 --> 03:53.128 [SPEAKER_01]: And obviously they did make some moves. 03:53.148 --> 03:54.390 [SPEAKER_01]: They got Louis Garcia Jr. 03:54.410 --> 04:00.437 [SPEAKER_01]: They got Romus from the Giants, so they did some stuff, but they needed to do more, especially after moving to 04:00.517 --> 04:07.860 [SPEAKER_01]: of all and freeing up some room in the bullpen, like reinforcements for absolutely needed there, but they needed to trade it for a catcher as well. 04:08.300 --> 04:14.702 [SPEAKER_01]: And the speaking of that, like that, the fact that the reds did not trade Tyler Stevenson was shocking. 04:15.062 --> 04:23.485 [SPEAKER_01]: I could, I was talking to a bunch of different executives across baseball, and that was one that immediately stood out as like he didn't get moved, like really. 04:23.846 --> 04:26.487 [SPEAKER_01]: And I was staring at my phone, I was waiting for it. 04:26.927 --> 04:29.068 [SPEAKER_01]: And I would have said that was 100% chance 04:31.120 --> 04:39.088 [SPEAKER_01]: But teams who interacted with the red suddenly placed a very eye asking price on Stevenson and even singer and ultimately did not move them, but totally crazy to me. 04:40.029 --> 04:46.276 [SPEAKER_01]: And then I was really surprised that the angles did not move one of red debt mrs or Zack nettle. 04:46.456 --> 04:50.660 [SPEAKER_01]: I was asking about your people going into yesterday like you think debt mrs goes and. 04:51.553 --> 04:59.218 [SPEAKER_01]: the response was yes, like it seemed like a pretty resounding yes, but no team ever got close despite some reports that he was going to the cubs. 04:59.778 --> 05:00.859 [SPEAKER_01]: That was never reality. 05:01.159 --> 05:02.460 [SPEAKER_01]: It was always going to be a zephyr John. 05:03.061 --> 05:06.963 [SPEAKER_01]: That was the most likely option that was going to be there and he ultimately ended up getting done. 05:07.604 --> 05:10.005 [SPEAKER_01]: And Denver's was a player of interest to the cubs. 05:10.045 --> 05:12.307 [SPEAKER_01]: I'll definitely say that, but 05:13.167 --> 05:14.088 [SPEAKER_01]: never got close there. 05:14.108 --> 05:16.590 [SPEAKER_01]: I thought Tampa Bay could make a push as far as demos. 05:17.211 --> 05:23.477 [SPEAKER_01]: I know that's something we discussed in the show pretty heavily yesterday, but I thought at least one of those guys would go and in reality they stayed. 05:23.837 --> 05:32.485 [SPEAKER_01]: But the angels as calculus as it was explained to me last night was they did not need to move either of those guys right now because they're all controllable. 05:32.866 --> 05:35.728 [SPEAKER_01]: They're all signed for at least the next couple of seasons here. 05:36.429 --> 05:37.290 [SPEAKER_01]: So they can go one of the 05:38.751 --> 05:45.418 [SPEAKER_01]: where teams can actually like have a chance to bid, and there's even more teams as well that are going to be able to answer the race for both of those guys. 05:45.438 --> 05:51.384 [SPEAKER_01]: So they did not get the value that they wanted, but so they're going to wait for the policies and to do that. 05:51.424 --> 05:51.885 [SPEAKER_01]: But you know what? 05:52.325 --> 05:53.987 [SPEAKER_01]: First critical is that it was about the Yankees. 05:54.027 --> 05:58.632 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to be critical of the angels there, because I get the strategy there, but the Yankees, that's inexcusable to me. 06:00.510 --> 06:01.931 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, here we go. 06:01.971 --> 06:02.491 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's go. 06:02.551 --> 06:03.011 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's go. 06:03.511 --> 06:10.594 [SPEAKER_00]: Look, it's just, it's, do you know how bad your deadline has to be for me to like every move you made and still hate the deadline? 06:11.115 --> 06:12.995 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, that's the craziest thing to make. 06:13.015 --> 06:21.119 [SPEAKER_00]: They trade Camille of all off the roster and they get a power hitting catcher from the pirates in Omar Alfonso with a messed up hit tool but great in-game power at AA. 06:21.459 --> 06:21.719 [SPEAKER_00]: Fine. 06:22.019 --> 06:23.940 [SPEAKER_00]: Live body for Camille of Devolum cool with it. 06:24.280 --> 06:25.501 [SPEAKER_00]: It just wasn't going to work in New York. 06:25.921 --> 06:40.968 [SPEAKER_00]: when we start to see a junior is not a bad idea considered because it's a bit of a redundancy first based DH, you know, that's something they weren't lacking, but he's the slugging leader in the national league and you got him for a package of Giovanni Cruz who's a reliever who 06:42.348 --> 06:43.629 [SPEAKER_00]: the jury is going to be out. 06:43.909 --> 06:45.570 [SPEAKER_00]: The Yankees clearly didn't believe in him. 06:45.770 --> 06:46.851 [SPEAKER_00]: He throws 101. 06:46.971 --> 06:49.272 [SPEAKER_00]: They had an ample opportunity to add into the bullpen. 06:49.572 --> 06:52.994 [SPEAKER_00]: This year, they would bring him up for two games at a time and send him down. 06:53.134 --> 06:58.717 [SPEAKER_00]: So let's see what he's like in Washington, but they didn't believe he was a bullpen solution. 06:58.917 --> 07:01.178 [SPEAKER_00]: So good to get what you got for him. 07:01.638 --> 07:03.800 [SPEAKER_00]: And I like Ben Grabo, who they sent out that to you a lot. 07:03.900 --> 07:04.720 [SPEAKER_00]: I like Jack Sieber. 07:05.020 --> 07:07.581 [SPEAKER_00]: I like the pieces they sent, but nobody I wasn't willing 07:09.205 --> 07:17.172 [SPEAKER_00]: Romo's yesterday, I like the addition to, but I feel like a lefty matching outfielder kind of a luxury move for them at this point given the needs that they had. 07:17.553 --> 07:26.561 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not saying you need to pay up with the Red Sox paid up for Adley Rutchman with the wonky medicals and with three of their top five prospects and last year starting catcher going to Baltimore. 07:27.002 --> 07:31.906 [SPEAKER_00]: I see the, you know, I see what Brian Cashman's doing, not pulling that off, but Stevenson. 07:32.887 --> 07:36.509 [SPEAKER_00]: Joey Bart to a lesser Joan of Hime didn't move. 07:36.829 --> 07:38.870 [SPEAKER_00]: There was a comment here about the A's failure. 07:38.930 --> 07:43.573 [SPEAKER_00]: Like a live body to put tune with Austin Wells was a necessity. 07:43.593 --> 07:45.253 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, they didn't get that done. 07:45.734 --> 07:53.418 [SPEAKER_00]: No matter how much you believe in Austin Wells is defensive work and the under the hood numbers and the expected weighted on-paces June or whatever the justification is. 07:53.998 --> 08:01.300 [SPEAKER_00]: just pairing him with anyone who's got more experience in Oli Sanchez who through the winning run of a game last week into left field in Chicago. 08:01.460 --> 08:05.342 [SPEAKER_00]: By the way, the Yankees current backup catcher lost them a baseball game last week. 08:05.362 --> 08:07.882 [SPEAKER_00]: It's hard for a backup catcher to do that, but he did. 08:08.222 --> 08:09.663 [SPEAKER_00]: That's a spot you do to improve upon. 08:09.983 --> 08:12.944 [SPEAKER_00]: For me, the bullpen is even worse than not getting a catcher. 08:13.820 --> 08:16.721 [SPEAKER_00]: knowing what the Rushman price was and knowing that they didn't move on Stevenson. 08:17.902 --> 08:20.964 [SPEAKER_00]: They lost Giovanni Cruz off that big league depth chart. 08:21.444 --> 08:24.165 [SPEAKER_00]: They lost Grable off the minor leagues. 08:24.465 --> 08:26.546 [SPEAKER_00]: Devol and Jake Burr also off the 40 men. 08:26.566 --> 08:29.308 [SPEAKER_00]: So minus three on the 40 men in terms of relievers. 08:29.628 --> 08:30.848 [SPEAKER_00]: They imported zero. 08:31.269 --> 08:36.111 [SPEAKER_00]: And yesterday they used unhealthy view who has emerged as maybe their fifth best reliever. 08:36.571 --> 08:42.376 [SPEAKER_00]: in recent weeks to soak up the eighth inning and give up three home runs against the Cardinals and get demoted today. 08:42.756 --> 08:48.040 [SPEAKER_00]: So they killed a fourth reliever off their active roster yesterday for anyone who didn't watch the Yankees game. 08:48.060 --> 08:50.162 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't blame you for not watching every Yankees game. 08:50.542 --> 09:00.310 [SPEAKER_00]: But technically they only lost three, but adgrable and adchv who they nuked and sent to the minor for 15 days, they straight up do not have bullpen depth. 09:01.030 --> 09:05.595 [SPEAKER_00]: They went into the deadline needing probably two arms to give their league leading. 09:05.935 --> 09:12.902 [SPEAKER_00]: They have the best bullpony R&B baseball, but Brent Hendrick has thrown like 60 games for nano crews have been running on fumes for two weeks. 09:13.302 --> 09:15.705 [SPEAKER_00]: You're doing these guys a disservice, not helping them out. 09:15.765 --> 09:19.348 [SPEAKER_00]: They have gotten you this far to make sure they're going to be available in October. 09:19.628 --> 09:23.893 [SPEAKER_00]: You need to add live bodies to help them survive until the postseason. 09:23.933 --> 09:25.074 [SPEAKER_00]: So Clark Schmidt, 09:25.534 --> 09:31.199 [SPEAKER_00]: is somebody you think might be in the bullpen in September, Ryan Weathers will warn these you guys you think might be in the bullpen in September. 09:32.220 --> 09:33.861 [SPEAKER_00]: Lots going to have to go right for that to happen. 09:34.001 --> 09:42.749 [SPEAKER_00]: You're converting random starters to bullpen aces midway through instead of going out and getting yourself one or two proven commodities or even just again live bodies. 09:42.769 --> 09:43.830 [SPEAKER_00]: You subtracted four. 09:44.470 --> 09:48.454 [SPEAKER_00]: It's my least favorite brand cashman deadline of all time and I like the moves he did make. 09:50.375 --> 09:52.756 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna say it any better. 09:53.076 --> 09:55.377 [SPEAKER_01]: It was like the moves they made were good. 09:55.557 --> 10:03.759 [SPEAKER_01]: Like really good, but there's needed to do a lot more and there was a lot of people were very surprised by that deadline and it was funny today. 10:03.819 --> 10:09.260 [SPEAKER_01]: Like I saw the old clip of Brian Cashman and Joel Sherbin going about it three years ago. 10:09.381 --> 10:10.921 [SPEAKER_01]: I wanna say it was about Anthony Volpi. 10:11.481 --> 10:12.241 [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, you know what? 10:12.541 --> 10:16.162 [SPEAKER_01]: That's probably gonna end up hitting on how it is in the New York media today with Cashman. 10:16.182 --> 10:17.623 [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm anxious to see all that goes, 10:18.503 --> 10:30.991 [SPEAKER_01]: Boy, yeah, they need to do a lot more and I don't know how you can look at your deadline for the Yankees and think that you have a better chance than you did previously when you look at what the raise did and what the red socks did. 10:31.011 --> 10:37.996 [SPEAKER_01]: Like you know what, the red socks, they made big moves and they paid a premium for how they rushed me. 10:38.496 --> 10:44.260 [SPEAKER_01]: But I love the aggressiveness and I will never fault the team for doing that because I've been talking about it with 10:47.332 --> 10:48.473 [SPEAKER_01]: it for ages at this point. 10:48.753 --> 10:50.314 [SPEAKER_01]: We need more aggressiveness in baseball. 10:50.334 --> 10:55.679 [SPEAKER_01]: We don't need to be teams afraid of their own shadow afraid of making a mistake where they have to be the clear winner in the trade. 10:56.379 --> 10:57.260 [SPEAKER_01]: We need more risks. 10:57.400 --> 11:04.005 [SPEAKER_01]: That is a risk considering the medical's overall, but you know what, for a catcher of that caliber, it's totally worth it in theank you should have done it too. 11:04.966 --> 11:08.789 [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I'm just, yeah, I was not a fan of it whatsoever. 11:09.475 --> 11:17.496 [SPEAKER_00]: No, I mean, again, the Russian trade package comes out and it's wild and you understand why they weren't willing to take that risk, but flags fly forever. 11:17.717 --> 11:34.760 [SPEAKER_00]: The deadline was this magical time of year when the aches were sort of, it felt like if they could just tread water to the deadline, their team would get rewarded with what they needed to give themselves a chance to be a reinforced version of what they've been all along and to give themselves a fighting chance to keep up with the raise and red socks for the rest of the year. 11:35.240 --> 11:36.440 [SPEAKER_00]: And to see the bullpen get, 11:37.369 --> 11:42.193 [SPEAKER_00]: If you were bodies not more, it's a slap in the face to the work because they did tread water. 11:42.654 --> 11:46.817 [SPEAKER_00]: But they're depleted line up and injured rotation and all that. 11:47.117 --> 11:50.661 [SPEAKER_00]: They went 64 on a road trip through Philly, White Sox, and Cubs. 11:50.701 --> 11:55.525 [SPEAKER_00]: That's a great job by the New York 80s and then here comes the trade deadline, you're coming home and you get... 11:56.025 --> 12:09.870 [SPEAKER_00]: A bat at a position you didn't need and, you know, Platoon guy who's not there yet and no arms, and it was just, it was wild to see, they're gonna be, I assume, like Andrew says, looking at Ron Maranacho and looking at DFA, guys to fill inings in August. 12:09.950 --> 12:17.232 [SPEAKER_00]: But that is again, not what that roster was owed, you look at what the Red Sox and what the race did specifically. 12:17.752 --> 12:34.216 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, which teams you think had underrated deadlines, uh, if we want to be positive after being holding it for 12 minutes, um, no, but you like the red socks going for it with Richmond at least, you know, looking at the sticker and not getting shocked, you challenge the Cubs toward the end of the live show yesterday. 12:34.516 --> 12:35.997 [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like they answered the bell. 12:36.037 --> 12:36.917 [SPEAKER_00]: They're up there for me. 12:36.997 --> 12:38.997 [SPEAKER_00]: I love the Clayhomes Tyrone Taylor trade. 12:39.397 --> 12:41.158 [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, who do you think did some underrated work? 12:42.039 --> 12:42.860 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, I'll go. 12:42.920 --> 12:44.402 [SPEAKER_00]: I'll start with the pirates actually. 12:44.803 --> 12:50.730 [SPEAKER_01]: They I thought they could use to bat for sure, but the bull pan arms at the end of getting. 12:51.090 --> 12:52.512 [SPEAKER_01]: I really like what they did. 12:52.572 --> 12:56.697 [SPEAKER_01]: Like Luke weaver was a big priority for the pirates and they got them. 12:56.937 --> 12:57.638 [SPEAKER_01]: They gave up. 12:58.238 --> 13:08.464 [SPEAKER_01]: Nothing too too crazy in the deal and they have a muscle saffron next to you here as well So it gives them certainty in the ninth inning gives them a higher high leverage reliever that they needed But they also got some different. 13:08.484 --> 13:09.885 [SPEAKER_01]: I was made a trip to Miami, Marlins. 13:10.365 --> 13:22.772 [SPEAKER_01]: They got curviates at the end There as well and from what I gather there was a few teams who were in the mix for yates at the end With the pirates ultimately won out, but they wanted to have some different options in the ninth You know what I like what they did 13:24.113 --> 13:26.034 [SPEAKER_01]: We don't know what you're going to get with Camilla DeVal. 13:26.614 --> 13:32.336 [SPEAKER_01]: He's a lottery ticket, but you know what, you're the pirates, you can go out and make a move like that. 13:32.416 --> 13:36.898 [SPEAKER_01]: And they did not came up a hall similar to what the Yankees ended up doing last year. 13:36.918 --> 13:40.179 [SPEAKER_01]: So I guess they got to be feeling good about that for sure. 13:41.439 --> 13:44.940 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, this is one, I agree with you on the cubs. 13:45.280 --> 13:47.241 [SPEAKER_01]: The cubs are definitely going to be in the mix here. 13:47.841 --> 13:49.002 [SPEAKER_01]: But yesterday after 13:50.022 --> 13:53.185 [SPEAKER_01]: the show I was prepared to rip the Milwaukee Brewers. 13:53.966 --> 13:57.590 [SPEAKER_01]: I really was, and I had more conversations today. 13:58.210 --> 14:00.553 [SPEAKER_01]: Talk to some different people, even last night as well. 14:01.794 --> 14:02.695 [SPEAKER_01]: I am going to... 14:03.892 --> 14:14.539 [SPEAKER_01]: I'll praise what the Brewers did, because Dustin May, there is a ton of optimism internally that they are going to be able to go out and get him into an even better version of himself. 14:15.620 --> 14:18.442 [SPEAKER_01]: Jojo Romero, really nice addition there. 14:19.483 --> 14:23.285 [SPEAKER_01]: They also got Senza Talif from the Rockies, so they added some arms. 14:23.305 --> 14:24.646 [SPEAKER_01]: That was a big priority for them. 14:25.406 --> 14:28.569 [SPEAKER_01]: Their top target, I believe was Terri's school. 14:29.289 --> 14:32.011 [SPEAKER_01]: And as Matt Arnold said, I believe they got, 14:33.035 --> 14:35.036 [SPEAKER_01]: irresponsible what they're offered. 14:35.557 --> 14:51.188 [SPEAKER_01]: They offered a lot for Terriq school and I have kind of heard names, I don't have a hundred percent, but if it is indeed the reality of the brewers offering what they did from what I believe, I'm really surprised the Tigers did not ultimately take it. 14:51.788 --> 14:56.952 [SPEAKER_01]: It was a very strong and competitive offer and between being comfortable 15:00.474 --> 15:04.078 [SPEAKER_01]: um giving up the prospect capital needed to get school. 15:04.358 --> 15:06.060 [SPEAKER_01]: I respect the aggressiveness. 15:06.080 --> 15:08.322 [SPEAKER_01]: That is exactly what the brewers needed to go out and do. 15:09.042 --> 15:15.729 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, but yeah, it was, it's a shame they didn't go out and like it didn't actually get that thing done, but it was not for lack of effort. 15:15.769 --> 15:20.514 [SPEAKER_01]: And that is not me doing PR, uh, as you have seen on the show before. 15:21.174 --> 15:23.877 [SPEAKER_01]: If a team needs ripped, I have not been afraid to do that. 15:24.577 --> 15:26.439 [SPEAKER_01]: But that is a reality with the mock-up brewers. 15:26.599 --> 15:33.924 [SPEAKER_01]: I get how you can be upset about the brewers and not getting schoolable if you're a fan there But again, it was not for a lack of effort. 15:33.984 --> 15:43.772 [SPEAKER_01]: They tried their best It was a very competitive offer They just ended up taking the Dodgers is deal and I think the Dodgers offering the pitching is ultimately what I ended up 15:44.332 --> 15:48.894 [SPEAKER_01]: taking that offer over the top for the Tigers in that case. 15:49.714 --> 15:52.475 [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, those were a couple of them that stood out to me. 15:52.635 --> 15:54.696 [SPEAKER_01]: Again, the Cubs, I think they did a wonderful job. 15:54.816 --> 15:56.777 [SPEAKER_01]: I also would say the San Diego Padres, too. 15:57.978 --> 15:59.318 [SPEAKER_01]: There was a moment at the end. 15:59.338 --> 16:01.019 [SPEAKER_01]: I thought the Padres were getting a bad idea. 16:01.639 --> 16:07.141 [SPEAKER_01]: I had someone text me that they were getting gerendoram, but that was a bad info, obviously. 16:07.361 --> 16:09.702 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that ever got close by any means. 16:09.722 --> 16:11.023 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't even know if probably checked in. 16:11.983 --> 16:12.924 [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, that was one. 16:12.964 --> 16:33.000 [SPEAKER_01]: I was laughing the bleacher a porch stream when that text came to me and I'm like, oh boy, here we go But that's her not to be an accurate but the players that they did get robberay They gave up a pretty good haul to get robberay But then they all said I'm getting Casey Massey the end to and that was a big priority for San Diego is they wanted to keep their bullpen intact 16:33.680 --> 16:37.184 [SPEAKER_01]: But there was also, like, they wanted to add the rotation as well. 16:37.204 --> 16:38.806 [SPEAKER_01]: They did exactly that on all fronts. 16:39.227 --> 16:40.228 [SPEAKER_01]: There was one. 16:40.648 --> 16:42.631 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if I said this on the show. 16:42.731 --> 16:44.413 [SPEAKER_01]: I may have said this in the discord, actually. 16:45.975 --> 16:49.139 [SPEAKER_01]: But there was a moment I was talking to a few different people all at once. 16:49.679 --> 16:51.421 [SPEAKER_01]: And the idea just ended up like, 16:52.387 --> 17:18.739 [SPEAKER_01]: Donning on me of could the Padres trade more at home to the Seattle Mariners for a guy like ever in Hancock and like if that was like one I strung I pitched it to these people they absolutely love that do I know if it was ever discussed no idea but that was one of the scenarios I I end up talking about with a bunch of different people and yeah it was it wasn't my worst idea people agree with it but you know what I don't know if probably discuss it but I'm sure you 17:20.823 --> 17:22.644 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we'll warn for more a hunt. 17:22.684 --> 17:23.985 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe on the cutting room floor. 17:24.045 --> 17:25.465 [SPEAKER_00]: We heard that rumor a little bit. 17:25.725 --> 17:33.169 [SPEAKER_01]: I'll tell you, I'm not going to throw my hat in that ring, but that was one of the most wild source offs that we've had in baseball at a very long time. 17:33.849 --> 17:38.732 [SPEAKER_01]: I've heard different things like I think that I think that was maybe offered at one point. 17:39.212 --> 17:49.194 [SPEAKER_01]: but like the source I did not want to be a part of that whatsoever because that was what it was what Bob Langell and John Hayman against Mark Feinstein and the F-letting. 17:49.254 --> 18:03.277 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean that's the locals yeah I mean we heard we heard Warren from more at home was turned down and we heard it was the opposite like it was a crazy source off that it was like more at home for Warren was turned down I mean look who knows but either way nobody got treated. 18:03.617 --> 18:06.560 [SPEAKER_01]: No, I do, I think that was discussed at some point. 18:06.580 --> 18:09.924 [SPEAKER_01]: But anyway, I'm not, I'm not getting my, I'm not throwing my hat in that ring. 18:09.944 --> 18:12.707 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I think I'm, I think I'm, I think I may have a person. 18:13.352 --> 18:17.233 [SPEAKER_01]: But anyways, yeah, I'm not talking about that. 18:17.653 --> 18:19.854 [SPEAKER_00]: I like a team big V-noting cashman. 18:19.894 --> 18:21.435 [SPEAKER_00]: I can't believe I forgot another catcher. 18:21.455 --> 18:23.035 [SPEAKER_00]: They couldn't get the Cardinals in town. 18:23.055 --> 18:24.216 [SPEAKER_00]: He couldn't get Iván Herrera. 18:24.236 --> 18:26.176 [SPEAKER_00]: Couldn't get Jimmy Crook to Homer yesterday. 18:26.557 --> 18:27.817 [SPEAKER_00]: Couldn't get Pedro Pahez. 18:28.437 --> 18:30.478 [SPEAKER_00]: Couldn't get Riley O'Brien from that bullpen. 18:30.538 --> 18:32.338 [SPEAKER_00]: Ryan Santa came in and looked terrible yesterday. 18:32.378 --> 18:37.040 [SPEAKER_00]: But again, I thought I know Bryan Herrera package made sense, and then is the day went on. 18:37.060 --> 18:39.041 [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, well, shooting for the stars. 18:39.321 --> 18:42.082 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe you'll land among the Joey Barts, and then you just don't get anybody. 18:42.102 --> 18:42.682 [SPEAKER_00]: It's crazy. 18:42.942 --> 18:45.386 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, I do want to pinpoint the giants. 18:45.766 --> 18:47.148 [SPEAKER_00]: We had a couple questions about them. 18:47.288 --> 18:48.149 [SPEAKER_00]: How do you think they did? 18:48.210 --> 18:50.232 [SPEAKER_00]: And he surprises and I like the angels. 18:50.813 --> 18:52.976 [SPEAKER_00]: Two, you brought the angels up earlier. 18:52.996 --> 18:56.201 [SPEAKER_00]: But I'm just a fan of, you know, you look at the dust settling. 18:56.401 --> 18:58.163 [SPEAKER_00]: And obviously the angels had a lot of work to do. 18:58.243 --> 18:59.545 [SPEAKER_00]: But by a Sarah's, 19:00.106 --> 19:05.370 [SPEAKER_00]: acquire, you know, Mala, these are all guys where you can say, ooh, like that approaches a blue chip. 19:05.410 --> 19:09.373 [SPEAKER_00]: And that was a big haul on Zeppard John, like good job in that flash sale. 19:09.673 --> 19:10.814 [SPEAKER_00]: And they're probably not done. 19:10.854 --> 19:13.716 [SPEAKER_00]: They still have debt mers this off season to go ahead and figure out. 19:14.437 --> 19:21.122 [SPEAKER_00]: And the giants, uh, I love what they got from the Yankees for Ramos, that not say I already said I like the trade in the Yankees end, but 19:21.742 --> 19:24.685 [SPEAKER_00]: Henry Lillan wasn't healthy the last three years. 19:24.805 --> 19:27.047 [SPEAKER_00]: Finally showed that top 100 upside this year. 19:27.627 --> 19:29.068 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, did the Yankees sell high? 19:29.088 --> 19:31.490 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if the giants got a big lefty arm. 19:31.651 --> 19:36.415 [SPEAKER_00]: And Kaden Kent, they go ahead and bring home Jeff Kent's son who's having a good year and is, you know, pro debut. 19:37.576 --> 19:40.478 [SPEAKER_00]: I like what the giant, I like the giants getting more cinemaier. 19:40.578 --> 19:46.243 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I know that the player maybe not a, you know, he's a number one draft prospect in 2021. 19:46.283 --> 19:47.624 [SPEAKER_00]: Has not lived up to that pedigree. 19:47.684 --> 19:49.206 [SPEAKER_00]: Seems unlikely he will, but 19:49.786 --> 20:01.172 [SPEAKER_00]: That's a lot of name brand value that you get for a lefty, really, we're all beat a very good one, but with a walk problem, now the redsets go ahead and try to unlock Eric Miller, and the giants get their hands on somebody we thought was part of the redsets out to Big Three. 20:01.272 --> 20:03.493 [SPEAKER_00]: So I really like what the giants and angels did. 20:03.553 --> 20:11.437 [SPEAKER_00]: I am curious your thoughts on those teams, finally dipping their toes in, also the giants got in the Luis Areis deal, Mark Kess, it's a haul. 20:12.458 --> 20:14.159 [SPEAKER_00]: I like the giants and angels work a lot. 20:14.720 --> 20:16.261 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I am right there with you. 20:16.341 --> 20:17.802 [SPEAKER_01]: And the giants all start with them. 20:19.763 --> 20:24.906 [SPEAKER_01]: The thing I consistently heard with people across baseball was that giants is asking prices. 20:24.926 --> 20:26.646 [SPEAKER_01]: We're really, really, really, really high. 20:27.587 --> 20:35.171 [SPEAKER_01]: And in response to that, I think the giants would say, we're offering quality guys, like, pay us the price that we're wanting. 20:35.711 --> 20:37.612 [SPEAKER_01]: And they did really well here. 20:37.933 --> 20:38.493 [SPEAKER_01]: I, like, I, like, 20:39.692 --> 20:53.218 [SPEAKER_01]: I've heard a lot of praise for what the giant did, especially getting what they did for Luis Arise, getting Ramon Marquez was a hall for a couple months of Luis Arise, but I'm not going to fault the failures for going on and doing that. 20:54.119 --> 21:03.363 [SPEAKER_01]: Eric Miller, there was a moment a couple days before the deadline, I actually thought Miller was on the verge of going to Boston, and I was sending text and I'm like, hey, like, 21:04.160 --> 21:19.049 [SPEAKER_01]: sounds like he might be going to the red socks and it was a case where the red size continued to pursue him and ultimately ended up taking Marcel and Meyer to end up getting that deal done, which was a lot of people across baseball praise that one. 21:20.330 --> 21:31.674 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if he's got the same shine to his value that he once did, but it's a very worthy lottery ticket for a guy, I mean, a left-hander reliever who ended up posting like a 270 or I this year. 21:31.714 --> 21:38.577 [SPEAKER_01]: So the giant set out to do a bunch of different things, but I never got the sense that any of those star players were overly likely to go and despite all the rumors. 21:38.957 --> 21:43.802 [SPEAKER_01]: just as salaries for those players makes it really difficult at this time of the year here for sure. 21:44.582 --> 21:53.911 [SPEAKER_01]: But the angels, they did some really good things and the ultimate takeaway to me is when you see sorry I don't go, Joe Adele and amongst these other players is that 21:54.691 --> 21:57.774 [SPEAKER_01]: John was a lack had the authority to do whatever he wanted. 21:57.894 --> 21:59.115 [SPEAKER_01]: Arty Morano did not metal. 21:59.475 --> 22:06.280 [SPEAKER_01]: He even had my truck going into the trade room in anti-hime there as well as what Mo was telling reporters yesterday. 22:06.801 --> 22:13.486 [SPEAKER_01]: And it was people were super enthusiastic about what the angels did across baseball. 22:13.506 --> 22:17.389 [SPEAKER_01]: And I got to sense that people in that organization are also very happy here as well. 22:18.589 --> 22:30.394 [SPEAKER_01]: I think they did a tremendous job, I think they're going to be a position where they can really take advantage and go out and try to have a strong market for both debt mrs and netto in the off season. 22:30.894 --> 22:31.495 [SPEAKER_01]: So you know what? 22:32.905 --> 22:34.946 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm really impressed by John Mozelek. 22:35.006 --> 22:43.609 [SPEAKER_01]: I think he should be the guy there going forward because the amount of praise I heard for John Mozelek from other teams was loud. 22:43.909 --> 22:49.271 [SPEAKER_01]: It spoke volumes to me because it felt like more people were complaining this deadline than ever about the prices. 22:49.531 --> 22:51.551 [SPEAKER_01]: But people were really praised and Mozelek. 22:52.612 --> 22:59.074 [SPEAKER_01]: Again, he had high prices, but his communication and everything else that he did behind the scenes had people really impressed. 22:59.134 --> 23:01.555 [SPEAKER_01]: So I think he absolutely deserves the full-time job. 23:02.328 --> 23:05.169 [SPEAKER_00]: during this stream Matt Strom got DFA. 23:05.189 --> 23:07.149 [SPEAKER_00]: So Yankees there is your bullpendition. 23:07.169 --> 23:09.210 [SPEAKER_00]: Go ahead. 23:09.610 --> 23:13.691 [SPEAKER_00]: Done cash make the call at, you know, ignore the Cardinals in town. 23:13.711 --> 23:14.651 [SPEAKER_00]: Just go ahead and get DFA. 23:14.671 --> 23:15.731 [SPEAKER_00]: Matt Strom. 23:16.112 --> 23:18.652 [SPEAKER_00]: Would you say it's obviously hard to pick one before we sign up? 23:18.712 --> 23:20.993 [SPEAKER_00]: Would you say you had a favorite move with a deadline? 23:21.633 --> 23:25.135 [SPEAKER_00]: Is it the Ruchman because of the bomb blast and pop in circumstance? 23:25.155 --> 23:31.079 [SPEAKER_00]: And this is what the deadline's all about of it all, or was there another addition that you just said, man, that makes it seem better. 23:31.180 --> 23:35.562 [SPEAKER_00]: If I had to pick myself, I like homes in Tyrone Taylor to the cubs. 23:35.663 --> 23:37.424 [SPEAKER_00]: But do you have a favorite move at the end of this? 23:37.904 --> 23:42.845 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's give you really lazy to go out and say tariff school to the Dodgers. 23:43.005 --> 23:44.366 [SPEAKER_00]: That would, you know, I forgot. 23:44.386 --> 23:45.746 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the autonomy trade. 23:45.806 --> 23:46.687 [SPEAKER_00]: Right. 23:47.027 --> 23:47.247 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 23:47.307 --> 23:49.947 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I want to say it would be that one. 23:50.368 --> 23:52.928 [SPEAKER_01]: But I think that's extremely lazy. 23:53.048 --> 23:55.169 [SPEAKER_01]: If I end up saying tariff school will go into the Dodgers. 23:56.529 --> 24:00.190 [SPEAKER_01]: I would probably say clay homes would definitely be it. 24:00.651 --> 24:02.651 [SPEAKER_01]: I'll go with the least rise going to Philadelphia. 24:03.411 --> 24:05.552 [SPEAKER_01]: There is people that were when I reported that, 24:06.372 --> 24:11.957 [SPEAKER_01]: I, there was a lot of people who were skeptical about that or they were like, are you sure he's going to be going to Philly? 24:11.977 --> 24:13.399 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, where is he going to play? 24:13.439 --> 24:14.680 [SPEAKER_01]: He wants to play second base. 24:15.501 --> 24:21.046 [SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't make a lot of sense, but there's shuffling things around so Luis Hariz can in a play in second base there. 24:21.366 --> 24:23.448 [SPEAKER_01]: That could create some defensive issues in Philly. 24:23.568 --> 24:29.494 [SPEAKER_01]: I get that, but they needed a guy of his ability where he can put the ball and play against both right and left handed pitchers. 24:30.635 --> 24:32.497 [SPEAKER_01]: and he's improved tremendously defensively. 24:32.817 --> 24:38.783 [SPEAKER_01]: They paid a haul to get him, but that was a swing that absolutely, absolutely needed to take. 24:39.204 --> 24:43.668 [SPEAKER_01]: So between getting him, Caleb Killian, and also getting a Brooks Rayleigh. 24:43.849 --> 24:46.351 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they made some good moves there in Philadelphia. 24:47.332 --> 24:49.194 [SPEAKER_01]: They only wanted to grab my hat with it. 24:49.234 --> 24:51.456 [SPEAKER_01]: They didn't get a starting pitcher, but the price is just... 24:52.137 --> 25:14.563 [SPEAKER_01]: were too high for somebody they didn't think we're like the ultimate meal mover but I did think if they did make a trade I thought Casey Myers had been a really nice addition for them but they'll always surprise trade to me was maybe my favorite of the deadline and the one that got away from me I'm not that thing was in agreement it's eight o'clock my time so 11 o'clock Eastern 25:21.720 --> 25:22.701 [SPEAKER_01]: damn you Jeff Passen. 25:23.903 --> 25:26.726 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's, you guys want the inside stories of the deadline. 25:26.746 --> 25:27.587 [SPEAKER_00]: That's the crazy one. 25:27.607 --> 25:29.689 [SPEAKER_00]: How long we had to sit on that. 25:29.969 --> 25:32.932 [SPEAKER_01]: I like, yeah, yeah, Adam can confirm that one. 25:33.092 --> 25:38.238 [SPEAKER_01]: I texted him and one of our, one of our producers, your Sean Daley, the full deal. 25:38.378 --> 25:41.201 [SPEAKER_01]: And I, yeah, two hours later, Passen dropped it on me. 25:41.221 --> 25:42.543 [SPEAKER_01]: That was, oh, yeah. 25:44.018 --> 25:52.910 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