WEBVTT 00:00.031 --> 00:10.354 [SPEAKER_01]: Listening to the fire, Breslo podcast presented by the basterds of Boston baseball, welcome into the show, Trade Deadline Special, Trade Deadline has come and gone. 00:10.875 --> 00:18.297 [SPEAKER_01]: Red Sox makes three official moves today, but obviously, highlighted by the biggest one of all Red Sox landing at the Russian. 00:18.697 --> 00:21.498 [SPEAKER_01]: from the Baltimore Oreos in a 5-player swap. 00:22.118 --> 00:23.399 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm your host Jason Kelly. 00:23.419 --> 00:26.180 [SPEAKER_01]: I've got Charlie, Doug, and Terry alongside. 00:26.860 --> 00:28.441 [SPEAKER_01]: Pretty big day fellas. 00:28.681 --> 00:29.381 [SPEAKER_01]: Three trades. 00:29.681 --> 00:34.663 [SPEAKER_01]: Two of them a little bit more minor, but obviously Adley Rushman is now a Boston Red Sox. 00:35.003 --> 00:37.644 [SPEAKER_01]: Lots of names going out the door a few more coming in. 00:38.204 --> 00:40.125 [SPEAKER_01]: Charlie, I'm going to put you in the lead off spot here. 00:40.225 --> 00:45.607 [SPEAKER_01]: Your reaction to the Adley Rushman trade because that was that was the biggest tamar to drop today. 00:46.890 --> 00:52.438 [SPEAKER_02]: uh... i'm gonna say that when it was uh... kind of breathtaking honestly because it was okay 00:53.858 --> 00:56.160 [SPEAKER_02]: It's in, we're waiting for the medical to go through. 00:56.320 --> 00:57.721 [SPEAKER_02]: John Henry still has to approve it. 00:57.781 --> 01:01.063 [SPEAKER_02]: So still, I mean, being a podcaster for the Boston Red Sox. 01:01.083 --> 01:03.124 [SPEAKER_02]: There's a 50% chance that actually doesn't go through. 01:03.144 --> 01:05.285 [SPEAKER_02]: And we're sitting here with our pants down. 01:05.446 --> 01:06.947 [SPEAKER_02]: And it's not a fun situation. 01:08.107 --> 01:09.248 [SPEAKER_02]: Finally, the trade goes through. 01:09.668 --> 01:11.289 [SPEAKER_02]: A lot of people deem it to be an overpay. 01:11.449 --> 01:16.032 [SPEAKER_02]: At the end of the day, some of these guys, you really don't know what's going to happen to them. 01:16.553 --> 01:18.634 [SPEAKER_02]: You can't hold on to all of your prospects. 01:18.994 --> 01:22.376 [SPEAKER_02]: And for the first time, you're really starting to see 01:23.317 --> 01:29.040 [SPEAKER_02]: Reslow just completely unload in his best Dave D'Abrowski impression. 01:29.120 --> 01:36.045 [SPEAKER_02]: We're just going to get rid of whatever we need to get rid of in order to get a really good bat. 01:36.425 --> 01:38.266 [SPEAKER_02]: And Rushman is a good catcher. 01:38.566 --> 01:39.727 [SPEAKER_02]: He's a switch hitting catcher. 01:40.267 --> 01:43.449 [SPEAKER_02]: At the end of the day, I really don't know when we were going to see weather spoon. 01:43.969 --> 01:49.272 [SPEAKER_02]: When as a car was going to come up, when I see it was going to come up, Narviz has not really been an answer to this year. 01:53.648 --> 02:11.262 [SPEAKER_02]: I totally trust him and if there's an option to upgrade at a position of need, you did it and you got rid of players that were not going to be seeing any playing time and Boston in 2026 or 2027 and you got rid in our bias because well you took one of their catchers. 02:11.302 --> 02:13.064 [SPEAKER_02]: So here's our backup catchers. 02:13.104 --> 02:15.506 [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm actually really happy about the move. 02:17.247 --> 02:24.695 [SPEAKER_02]: The Boston Red Sox, I mean, I want to pose this question to you guys once all of us have had a chance, but I want to ask you guys as well, like do you think the Boston Red Sox are sexy again? 02:24.715 --> 02:30.782 [SPEAKER_02]: Because I'm starting to get warm and fuzzy, which is first time in a long time, even with our 15-in-win straight. 02:30.862 --> 02:31.403 [SPEAKER_02]: But I'll shut up. 02:31.543 --> 02:33.885 [SPEAKER_02]: Go to Dougie next. 02:33.906 --> 02:34.706 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I love the trade. 02:35.734 --> 02:49.497 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, I'm not big on these, uh, you know, having to keep every prospect and I'm also not, you know, like under the under the fact like under the influence that if these kids turn out to be good, that it's a colossal loss of a trade. 02:50.134 --> 02:52.576 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you gotta take risks to get better. 02:52.976 --> 02:55.317 [SPEAKER_00]: You can't trade bumps to get good players. 02:55.898 --> 03:03.923 [SPEAKER_00]: Just how it works, you gotta, if you really wanna trade, for a start, all-star player, you gotta give up guys that people want. 03:04.704 --> 03:05.764 [SPEAKER_00]: And that's prospects. 03:06.485 --> 03:14.590 [SPEAKER_00]: And one of these guys was like, in the top 150 prospects, it's like, all right, I'm not concerned about that at all. 03:15.070 --> 03:16.591 [SPEAKER_00]: That doesn't mean anything to me. 03:19.587 --> 03:27.272 [SPEAKER_00]: talk 20, you know, we can talk like maybe the, but these guys that are like, oh, he's in the talk 100, it's like, all right, that's fine. 03:27.612 --> 03:28.633 [SPEAKER_00]: See you later. 03:29.073 --> 03:30.794 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't, I don't think twice about that time. 03:31.094 --> 03:31.635 [SPEAKER_00]: I really don't. 03:32.395 --> 03:41.181 [SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, you bring in a three-time all-star that's still in his 20s and you put in that position that's been our weak position for a long time. 03:42.362 --> 03:43.102 [SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, I remember 03:47.934 --> 03:58.122 [SPEAKER_00]: talking point about what they're going to do with catcher and the virus turned out to have a great season and then it turned out to be, you know, maybe that was the best he's been because he was horrible this year. 03:59.022 --> 04:01.484 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, so he had a really good rookie league year last year. 04:01.824 --> 04:08.149 [SPEAKER_00]: People kind of forgot about the catcher position, you know, and then it showed again this year that we desperately needed one. 04:08.249 --> 04:12.933 [SPEAKER_00]: And now you put one of the better ones in the league, you know, he was the number one pick in the draft. 04:13.073 --> 04:16.235 [SPEAKER_00]: He didn't turn out maybe as people really wanted them to, 04:19.480 --> 04:25.626 [SPEAKER_00]: he's a huge upgrade from what we have and we're better today than we were yesterday without him. 04:31.591 --> 04:34.634 [SPEAKER_03]: So the trade was not insignificant. 04:37.068 --> 04:44.012 [SPEAKER_03]: But I feel like it really failed to live up to the hype of everything we were getting over the past week. 04:44.032 --> 04:49.715 [SPEAKER_03]: Red Sox beat writers from the Ken Rose and Thals from the Jeff Passons, all those guys. 04:50.115 --> 04:51.696 [SPEAKER_03]: I think it kind of missed. 04:53.297 --> 04:54.458 [SPEAKER_03]: It did not meet the hype. 04:55.967 --> 05:08.757 [SPEAKER_03]: I tweeted out, I don't know, we can have to go, you know, the three biggest bats we've ever acquired this century in the John Henry era dating back I think the 2002. 05:11.688 --> 05:13.669 [SPEAKER_03]: Number one is obviously Kyle Schwabber. 05:14.009 --> 05:16.171 [SPEAKER_03]: Number two, I think, is Jason Bay. 05:17.031 --> 05:20.754 [SPEAKER_03]: Number three, it could be a number of guys. 05:20.854 --> 05:27.337 [SPEAKER_03]: You've got a 3a, 3b, 3c type situation with Warnonunias, Victor Martinez. 05:28.638 --> 05:29.979 [SPEAKER_03]: I know there was one other guy. 05:30.599 --> 05:34.382 [SPEAKER_03]: I think that's the group that Adley Rushman is in. 05:34.602 --> 05:37.624 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think he's certainly not Kyle Schwabber. 05:41.746 --> 06:00.560 [SPEAKER_03]: Jason Bay making the impact that he made, but it was a massive one, and so you want to go Charlie I'm like, one year I broke my take care, somebody's got a thing going to like in the background, but 06:02.090 --> 06:07.838 [SPEAKER_03]: But anyway, it just, I think it, it fall short, you know, a little bit. 06:07.858 --> 06:10.281 [SPEAKER_03]: And catcher, there was a lot of talking to the war room. 06:10.301 --> 06:14.026 [SPEAKER_03]: I'd love to have Lange Lears, I'd love to have this guy, I'd love to have that guy. 06:14.046 --> 06:15.608 [SPEAKER_03]: I think Rushman's name was brought up. 06:16.972 --> 06:27.396 [SPEAKER_03]: And that really wasn't a position that I thought was super critical, you know, it's not our best position, but we're kind of used to not having a stud catcher. 06:28.436 --> 06:32.698 [SPEAKER_03]: I think defensively, long in the riots were very good. 06:33.498 --> 06:38.400 [SPEAKER_03]: I think long had some big spots throughout that streak. 06:39.981 --> 06:42.962 [SPEAKER_03]: And, you know, I look at the middle and field and it's a mess. 06:44.562 --> 06:45.943 [SPEAKER_03]: Left field is a mess. 06:47.568 --> 06:54.151 [SPEAKER_03]: Not only did we not get rid of Jared and Iran, but we added Eli White for no reason. 06:54.411 --> 06:55.832 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, back I sucks. 06:57.312 --> 07:00.454 [SPEAKER_03]: His save on chart is as blue as the Pacific Ocean. 07:01.254 --> 07:04.475 [SPEAKER_03]: He's a defensive replacement that's all he is, but we got him. 07:05.436 --> 07:07.617 [SPEAKER_03]: And somehow he's going to fit into the log gym. 07:09.557 --> 07:12.399 [SPEAKER_03]: And all week long, we heard about, we need a short stop. 07:12.419 --> 07:13.359 [SPEAKER_03]: We need a short stop. 07:13.379 --> 07:14.380 [SPEAKER_03]: We need a short stop. 07:14.440 --> 07:15.100 [SPEAKER_03]: We didn't get one. 07:16.503 --> 07:19.566 [SPEAKER_03]: perhaps Jason got his way with areas being in there. 07:21.007 --> 07:31.558 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, at some point, you know, I don't know if that's days from now, weeks from now, halfway through September, he'll come up, we just don't know when. 07:31.578 --> 07:32.699 [SPEAKER_03]: He just got the triple A. 07:33.419 --> 07:34.140 [SPEAKER_03]: So I don't know. 07:34.220 --> 07:34.601 [SPEAKER_03]: I just, 07:36.580 --> 07:39.943 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, like I said, it's not insignificant. 07:40.043 --> 07:52.713 [SPEAKER_03]: It's by far the best bat he's ever gotten in the month of, of, well, I say July, usually we're in August now, but at the deadline, it's the biggest bat he's gotten. 07:54.014 --> 07:55.875 [SPEAKER_03]: So, we'll see what happens. 07:56.215 --> 07:57.336 [SPEAKER_03]: He is on the injured list. 07:57.436 --> 07:59.078 [SPEAKER_03]: He's been on it three times this year. 08:00.659 --> 08:02.740 [SPEAKER_03]: He's had a concussion issue. 08:02.800 --> 08:04.081 [SPEAKER_03]: His power numbers are down. 08:05.197 --> 08:10.798 [SPEAKER_03]: Um, what is still robust is he's still a high on base guy draws a lot of walks. 08:11.779 --> 08:15.379 [SPEAKER_03]: He's not going to be, you know, he's not a free swing or at the plate. 08:15.399 --> 08:16.980 [SPEAKER_03]: He's not going to be chasing junk. 08:17.200 --> 08:27.542 [SPEAKER_03]: So that's all good, but, but, you know, I, I think this team with the run they've been on, I think the bar should have been set a little bit higher. 08:28.563 --> 08:29.903 [SPEAKER_02]: Or they should have added more. 08:30.992 --> 08:32.833 [SPEAKER_03]: But there should have been another rat in there. 08:33.373 --> 08:35.274 [SPEAKER_03]: And Jason kind of teased me a couple of days ago. 08:35.314 --> 08:37.115 [SPEAKER_03]: Randy Rosarina was available. 08:38.776 --> 08:41.938 [SPEAKER_03]: I looked as metrics expecting them not to be super great anymore. 08:42.978 --> 08:44.839 [SPEAKER_03]: And he's still a very good player. 08:45.620 --> 08:51.763 [SPEAKER_03]: And I was hoping maybe something sneaky like that would happen in the last hour or two. 08:52.258 --> 08:52.918 [SPEAKER_03]: didn't happen. 08:53.078 --> 08:54.079 [SPEAKER_03]: Ely White happened. 08:54.839 --> 08:58.041 [SPEAKER_03]: So anyway, I gave his performance to see. 08:58.241 --> 09:03.143 [SPEAKER_03]: I think I gave him the lowest grade of everyone and the time I feel about it. 09:04.998 --> 09:09.622 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think in terms of a grade, I'm just going to go straight B for this one. 09:10.964 --> 09:17.830 [SPEAKER_01]: I think the issue with the Rushman trade, what kind of makes it less exciting is that the guy's been hurt most of the year. 09:18.070 --> 09:24.356 [SPEAKER_01]: So it's not like you're getting that immediate impact because he's still, you know, he's still to go on rehab assignment. 09:24.376 --> 09:30.382 [SPEAKER_01]: Now, hopefully that's going to happen soon, but he's got to meet with the Red Sox doctors, get his wrist looked at, and then 09:30.882 --> 09:31.823 [SPEAKER_01]: they'll return from there. 09:31.923 --> 09:37.269 [SPEAKER_01]: So it kind of takes away from the excitement of it just knowing that he's not going to be in the line up tomorrow, right? 09:37.329 --> 09:40.632 [SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be probably another week or two before you actually see him. 09:40.652 --> 09:48.100 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I think that's why they picked up Jake Rogers as part of that trade as well because they need someone to play catch her along with Connor Wong. 09:48.840 --> 09:55.363 [SPEAKER_01]: But in terms of the, who he sent out, I mean, people are harping on the fact that, oh, you keep giving up first round picks. 09:55.423 --> 09:56.924 [SPEAKER_01]: And look, Reslow has been doing that. 09:56.984 --> 10:03.086 [SPEAKER_01]: He's now traded away four of your former first round picks between the crochet trade and this one. 10:03.687 --> 10:07.068 [SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, with her spoon, Meyer, who we'll talk about in a little bit. 10:07.709 --> 10:11.170 [SPEAKER_01]: And then obviously, you know, Montgomery and Kyle Teele. 10:11.790 --> 10:13.771 [SPEAKER_01]: All former first round picks that he sent out the door. 10:13.851 --> 10:17.153 [SPEAKER_01]: And look, Kyle Teele, when he's healthy, looks like the real deal. 10:18.148 --> 10:43.369 [SPEAKER_01]: you know Montgomery will see he's still very young he's not getting you know a ton of it bats over there in Chicago but could be really good so for all the first round picks that you will meant giving up I can give you a list of guys that you know former first rounders from the red socks that would make you laugh I mean guys like tray ball guys like you know Lars Anderson Michael shavis I mean just because there are former first round pick does not mean 10:47.523 --> 10:48.223 [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't mind it. 10:48.303 --> 10:53.426 [SPEAKER_01]: I think giving up five players for one is a lot, but I also think both things can be true. 10:53.466 --> 11:07.013 [SPEAKER_01]: You can say that it was a lot to give up, and you could also say, you know what, Adley Rushman when he's healthy, and he's on, he's a really good player, and he's a foundational type of player, and you know, maybe he's a guy that needs a change of scenery. 11:07.053 --> 11:10.595 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, Baltimore is all in on this semi-official kid. 11:10.855 --> 11:11.935 [SPEAKER_01]: They signed him to a, you know, 11:17.058 --> 11:20.901 [SPEAKER_01]: So he probably saw the foots he heard the footsteps coming, but Saia was there capture of the future. 11:21.461 --> 11:29.547 [SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, Rushman probably knew that, okay, I'm getting phased out here, then he started to get injured, you know, it's just, he's had a frustrating season and a half. 11:30.087 --> 11:33.010 [SPEAKER_01]: If he gets healthy and goes back to what he was, it would be first came up. 11:33.690 --> 11:38.874 [SPEAKER_01]: you now have a foundational piece at catcher that you can start to really build around he's still under 30. 11:39.335 --> 11:40.156 [SPEAKER_01]: He's a switch hitter. 11:40.816 --> 11:50.965 [SPEAKER_01]: He's going to hit for a ton of power, probably not, but as you guys pointed out he's good at getting on base, he doesn't strike out and you look at you know his savon page and his feeling numbers. 11:51.025 --> 11:56.149 [SPEAKER_01]: He's one of the best defensive catchers in baseball when he's back there and there's a lot of value in that. 11:56.650 --> 11:59.632 [SPEAKER_01]: So at first I looked at the return I was like 12:00.613 --> 12:04.239 [SPEAKER_01]: Because I've mentioned last week, I didn't really want to see guys like Anthony Eonson. 12:04.714 --> 12:05.314 [SPEAKER_01]: being traded. 12:05.715 --> 12:07.376 [SPEAKER_01]: And of course, you know, he was part of the deal. 12:07.396 --> 12:10.718 [SPEAKER_01]: I think he was your number three prospects going into this deal. 12:11.238 --> 12:15.040 [SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, you look at the other guys, Kyson Weather Spoon has been all over the place. 12:15.080 --> 12:16.221 [SPEAKER_01]: His numbers don't look good. 12:16.601 --> 12:21.964 [SPEAKER_01]: I think they're trying to fiddle with his mechanics or there's rumors that he filled with his own mechanics and got worse. 12:22.264 --> 12:26.307 [SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, that's someone that I'm not, I'm not too worried about giving up right now. 12:26.327 --> 12:29.309 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, you sent Narvaya's back in the deal. 12:29.389 --> 12:31.510 [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's another guy that just, you kind of had to 12:31.890 --> 12:33.212 [SPEAKER_01]: ship out at this point. 12:33.252 --> 12:38.016 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what happened to him, but he's gone completely backwards from where he was last year. 12:38.797 --> 12:40.319 [SPEAKER_01]: So ultimately, I look at the trade. 12:40.339 --> 12:41.460 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, I'm good with it. 12:41.760 --> 12:46.745 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I want to see Rushman on the field as soon as possible, and I want to see, you know, is he fully healthy? 12:46.805 --> 12:47.986 [SPEAKER_01]: Can he get back to what he was? 12:48.827 --> 12:53.649 [SPEAKER_01]: But I'm not, you know, I'm not shutting any tears over giving up that many prospects. 12:54.029 --> 12:58.011 [SPEAKER_01]: You did it for Garic Roche and apart from this year, that's worked out really well. 12:58.691 --> 13:04.954 [SPEAKER_01]: You have to give something to get something and if you want to say it's underwhelming because it wasn't a middle infield bet, I agree. 13:05.474 --> 13:14.218 [SPEAKER_01]: My guess is what happened with guys like CJ Abrams and Zack NATO and all those rumors is that all those teams said Roman Anthony's got to be in the deal. 13:14.778 --> 13:23.322 [SPEAKER_01]: That's what I'm guessing happened because I agree I think Craig may have missed the boat on getting a middle infielder, but I think those prices skyrocketed because you know what? 13:23.382 --> 13:24.523 [SPEAKER_01]: No one else traded for them either. 13:25.103 --> 13:27.644 [SPEAKER_01]: So I think those asking prices got insane. 13:27.804 --> 13:32.387 [SPEAKER_01]: So you got you know, you got Rushman, you got a nice reliever from from the giants. 13:33.647 --> 13:41.989 [SPEAKER_01]: The E-Li-White trade, I don't pay much attention to, it kind of felt like a, I don't know, a bit of an unnecessary move, but Tyler Uberstein is a rule five guy. 13:42.489 --> 13:45.530 [SPEAKER_01]: So he's going to, you're going to lose him in the rule five next year anyway. 13:46.250 --> 13:47.690 [SPEAKER_01]: E-Li-White is just another native. 13:48.130 --> 13:55.352 [SPEAKER_01]: He's a speed demon and he's good defensively, like, okay, fine, you know, if he gives you a little something, Tyler Uberstein is not part of your future. 13:55.592 --> 13:55.792 [SPEAKER_01]: So, 13:56.412 --> 13:56.953 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm good with that. 13:57.013 --> 14:04.999 [SPEAKER_01]: So ultimately, yeah, I think solid B, I think the team got better, your farms system got a little worse, but that's usually how trade deadlines go. 14:05.260 --> 14:06.901 [SPEAKER_01]: So ultimately, I'm okay with it. 14:08.859 --> 14:14.883 [SPEAKER_02]: I think, all right, so Terry, sorry, I didn't mean to jump your bones six seconds if you're taking, you're totally right. 14:14.923 --> 14:17.725 [SPEAKER_02]: So a couple of things, I think both can be right. 14:18.005 --> 14:19.886 [SPEAKER_02]: I also gave this a beat, right? 14:20.447 --> 14:24.109 [SPEAKER_02]: And we're really not gonna know just what was gonna be the case with. 14:24.609 --> 14:27.871 [SPEAKER_02]: First, me, he's done possibly for the year. 14:28.071 --> 14:29.472 [SPEAKER_02]: We don't really know, right? 14:29.672 --> 14:31.434 [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe that would have been a little bit better. 14:31.954 --> 14:34.135 [SPEAKER_02]: You didn't get a short stop, you're right. 14:34.435 --> 14:36.657 [SPEAKER_02]: You did however get a very good catcher. 14:38.458 --> 14:39.739 [SPEAKER_02]: you're a lot better of a team. 14:40.440 --> 14:45.044 [SPEAKER_02]: Uberstein, not a part of your future, with her spoon, not a part of your immediate future. 14:45.545 --> 14:50.269 [SPEAKER_02]: In order to get better, like you Jens already said, you have to give something to get something. 14:50.730 --> 14:54.754 [SPEAKER_02]: And I am curious to know what the asking price was for Abrams. 14:55.014 --> 15:01.280 [SPEAKER_02]: The fact that he's still wearing a national's uniform though does tell you that they wanted a King's ransom. 15:01.620 --> 15:15.905 [SPEAKER_02]: something insane that probably would have included Roman Anthony, Marcelo Meyer, witherspoon, Ozacar, whomever, seven or eight guys because Abrams is literally out of his mind good this year. 15:16.405 --> 15:17.145 [SPEAKER_02]: That's the fact. 15:19.110 --> 15:23.534 [SPEAKER_02]: I, you know, you guys already touched up on the, the, the outfielder. 15:24.094 --> 15:24.975 [SPEAKER_02]: There's not much to say. 15:25.115 --> 15:28.378 [SPEAKER_02]: Uberstein, rule five guy, not a part of the long-term picture. 15:28.798 --> 15:29.659 [SPEAKER_02]: We'll see what happens. 15:29.679 --> 15:30.740 [SPEAKER_02]: He's 32 years old. 15:31.160 --> 15:33.422 [SPEAKER_02]: But athlete, Rushman is on the right side of 30. 15:33.702 --> 15:37.446 [SPEAKER_02]: We, we can have a reason now to be a little bit excited. 15:37.906 --> 15:44.531 [SPEAKER_02]: I would have been really happy if we got, you know, one more starting picture because if you add one more arm, 15:45.272 --> 16:03.349 [SPEAKER_02]: My mindset is, okay, I'm good if you shelve Peyton totally right now because that is going to be a different conversation that we have in the, you know, pretty immediate future here because he's already exceeded his total innings work in one year in his career. 16:03.829 --> 16:07.990 [SPEAKER_02]: In the 80s, a couple times, in the 90s, a couple times, now we're past 100. 16:08.510 --> 16:14.011 [SPEAKER_02]: That to me was a little bit more of a pressing matter because Andrew Monastery, I was doing okay. 16:14.211 --> 16:15.532 [SPEAKER_02]: Is he CJ Abrams? 16:15.912 --> 16:18.272 [SPEAKER_02]: No, he's not, but he's doing his job. 16:18.632 --> 16:23.113 [SPEAKER_02]: Guys, we just swept the Los Angeles Dodgers, a team that just got even richer. 16:23.453 --> 16:29.155 [SPEAKER_02]: They just got to reach school, they got Chris Boobick, or Boobitch, I don't know how to say his name, whatever. 16:29.595 --> 16:30.735 [SPEAKER_02]: The fact of the matter is, 16:31.375 --> 16:34.337 [SPEAKER_02]: with what we have, we have gotten better. 16:34.517 --> 16:35.838 [SPEAKER_02]: And yes, you're right. 16:36.258 --> 16:41.802 [SPEAKER_02]: When you get big pieces like Adley Rushment, your farm system is gonna take a bath. 16:42.222 --> 16:42.942 [SPEAKER_02]: But you know what? 16:43.523 --> 16:46.285 [SPEAKER_02]: I really don't know what 2027 is gonna look like. 16:46.705 --> 16:50.067 [SPEAKER_02]: I really like to continue cheering for this team in 2026. 16:50.687 --> 16:52.629 [SPEAKER_02]: Adley Rushment makes your team better. 16:53.429 --> 16:54.670 [SPEAKER_02]: I get where you're coming from. 16:54.970 --> 16:59.253 [SPEAKER_02]: I understand why you're frustrated that we didn't get a short stop to deal with that need. 16:59.979 --> 17:00.339 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes. 17:01.019 --> 17:04.560 [SPEAKER_02]: But it's not to say that we didn't improve in other areas. 17:05.160 --> 17:07.761 [SPEAKER_02]: I am curious to see how the Miller piece works as well. 17:08.121 --> 17:10.561 [SPEAKER_02]: I think his fire is going to be interesting to watch. 17:10.842 --> 17:12.862 [SPEAKER_02]: It's perfectly tailor-made for Boston. 17:13.122 --> 17:14.222 [SPEAKER_02]: The energy is real. 17:14.942 --> 17:17.963 [SPEAKER_02]: That's just the direction we're going in in 2026. 17:18.383 --> 17:20.704 [SPEAKER_02]: Those are the cards we were dealt. 17:21.484 --> 17:25.785 [SPEAKER_02]: If it was an overpay or not an overpay, we really won't know that for a couple of years. 17:28.548 --> 17:31.871 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, yeah, I think you can always say it could be better, right? 17:31.891 --> 17:55.392 [SPEAKER_00]: Unless you're trading for, to reach school, then you can kind of always say, well, it could have been better, but, you know, we're better, I think we're better today than we are yesterday, and I think that's, you know, the goal, you know, maybe, you know, you can have other goals to get, you know, higher, better players, but the main goal, I think, is to get better. 17:56.626 --> 17:58.266 [SPEAKER_00]: And I think we got better. 17:59.167 --> 18:06.968 [SPEAKER_00]: And I think they don't got rid of Meyer, which I think we can talk about later, but I think that was a big goal of theirs. 18:07.948 --> 18:13.889 [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm happy, you know, we've been waiting for Craig, you know, we don't believe in him to make a big deal. 18:14.929 --> 18:18.570 [SPEAKER_00]: And you know, this isn't a mega deal, but it's a pretty big deal. 18:18.590 --> 18:21.951 [SPEAKER_00]: It's a pretty significant deal for, you know, an all-star player. 18:24.250 --> 18:25.150 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I'm happy with it. 18:25.190 --> 18:28.892 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm really happy with it where, you know, you said maybe his power numbers will be down. 18:29.613 --> 18:33.454 [SPEAKER_00]: There'll still be a lot better than anything we've been getting from the catcher position in a long time. 18:34.755 --> 18:35.916 [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm fine. 18:35.936 --> 18:36.976 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I'm fine with whatever. 18:37.016 --> 18:37.996 [SPEAKER_00]: He's going to give us obviously. 18:38.017 --> 18:39.097 [SPEAKER_00]: You need to see him on the field. 18:39.597 --> 18:40.998 [SPEAKER_00]: He needs to stay healthy, obviously. 18:41.058 --> 18:46.941 [SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, when he does, it's going to show that, you know, wear a way better team within behind the plate. 18:50.582 --> 18:51.683 [SPEAKER_03]: I think, you know, I think, you know, 18:52.780 --> 18:58.762 [SPEAKER_03]: the housekeeping aspect of the team was really important, you know, just get rid of Doran. 19:00.163 --> 19:03.704 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, this morning, this is a behind-the-scenes thing for the audience. 19:04.664 --> 19:11.566 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, probably once every fifth or six week, we have a Bruha about Raffy Devers for no reason in particular. 19:12.927 --> 19:19.069 [SPEAKER_03]: And, you know, the term clubhouse cancer comes up and, you know, blah, blah, blah, 19:22.922 --> 19:25.446 [SPEAKER_03]: And, you know, maybe they tolerate it. 19:25.566 --> 19:28.851 [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe they're like, wow, he's an emotional kid and he's been through a lot. 19:28.931 --> 19:31.835 [SPEAKER_03]: And, you know, and that's why he acts that way. 19:32.476 --> 19:34.719 [SPEAKER_03]: But I just don't think 19:36.156 --> 19:45.343 [SPEAKER_03]: he's a necessary guy even in the background of a team that's kind of teasing us as far as a deep playoff run. 19:45.943 --> 20:00.113 [SPEAKER_03]: That's just an easy subtraction to do and you've got a number of ways to to address that as far as replacing him and then hopefully eventually Roman Anthony comes back and 20:03.078 --> 20:04.299 [SPEAKER_03]: 2026 picture. 20:04.899 --> 20:06.400 [SPEAKER_03]: But that should have happened. 20:07.801 --> 20:17.846 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, I look at Rushman being banged up and I'm like man they could have probably moved on from Yoshida and maybe Rushman just ends up being a DH for the rest of the year. 20:19.727 --> 20:29.513 [SPEAKER_03]: I think I can't remember if it was the regular war room or my Facebook group, but someone pointed out that the arbitration guys. 20:32.006 --> 20:39.950 [SPEAKER_03]: The, the arbitration guys basically get paused and whatever control they have stays with the team through the strike. 20:40.910 --> 20:43.952 [SPEAKER_03]: So for instance, Bryce Harper's going to lose a year of his deal. 20:45.164 --> 20:46.125 [SPEAKER_03]: because of the strike. 20:47.106 --> 20:53.432 [SPEAKER_03]: But the team controlled guys through arbitration, apparently that might just be on pause. 20:53.532 --> 21:02.381 [SPEAKER_03]: So, where 2026 was Rushman's Arb 3 season, excuse me, 2027 would have been next year, that would have been his walk year. 21:03.141 --> 21:07.606 [SPEAKER_03]: Apparently that'll be 2028 now, if whoever was right. 21:07.886 --> 21:08.106 [SPEAKER_03]: And that 21:11.302 --> 21:33.018 [SPEAKER_03]: Um, so, you know, maybe just create a DH spot for them for the rest of the year, and, you know, I, and our bias has gone, but, you know, Wong can probably would have caught the majority of those games anyway, and I don't know if you call up Mickey Gasper or you post someone off the scrap heap to, um, to be the backup catcher, but, uh, 21:33.859 --> 21:44.806 [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm just a little disappointed about that, you know, and then because we didn't get a short stop, that does kind of leave the door open for Trevor's story. 21:45.827 --> 21:47.048 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, that's a buzzkill. 21:47.879 --> 21:50.081 [SPEAKER_03]: that wants that guy back, but it could happen. 21:51.201 --> 21:57.466 [SPEAKER_03]: So that's kind of one of the disappointments here for for not addressing the middle and field. 21:58.407 --> 22:07.033 [SPEAKER_03]: I also tweeted out today, you know, if the Red Sox want to add an impact bat without giving up a massive trade package. 22:08.612 --> 22:30.618 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, Debra's was available as I kind of brought up Peter Lanzo was available well could have been available possibly perhaps you could bail out the or else from that that big contract and then you get the guy we wanted all along and almost be like the movie draft day, you know, you end up getting the guy you wanted. 22:31.965 --> 22:36.047 [SPEAKER_03]: And then, you know, I don't know how realistic a tattoos deal would have been. 22:36.067 --> 22:39.348 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, the pod rays were pretty active today in terms of buying. 22:41.809 --> 22:53.234 [SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, and then the guy that I didn't put in that tweet for Francisco Indoor, who's, I talked myself into him on whenever my last show was. 22:53.294 --> 22:56.535 [SPEAKER_03]: It might have been, can't remember what was Sunday or, you know, 23:01.020 --> 23:07.389 [SPEAKER_03]: He's going to be 33 later this year and his exit velocity has never changed. 23:07.970 --> 23:11.255 [SPEAKER_03]: His exit below has stayed exactly the same as whole career. 23:12.822 --> 23:20.685 [SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, maybe, you know, you're adding money, that's the trade off, you know, given up a big trade package, but you are adding salary. 23:21.765 --> 23:28.908 [SPEAKER_03]: So, those would have been some deals, I would have preferred to go. 23:29.588 --> 23:32.189 [SPEAKER_03]: And I think they would have better address our needs. 23:33.589 --> 23:38.411 [SPEAKER_03]: But we'll see, maybe, maybe Rushman ends up having that Jason Bay effect. 23:39.911 --> 23:41.832 [SPEAKER_03]: And one other thing before I forget, 23:43.622 --> 23:50.850 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, players' attitudes right now in the last few months in terms of extensions. 23:51.030 --> 23:55.655 [SPEAKER_03]: I think Terri Scoobal will sign an extension because they're just going to throw the brink's truck at him. 23:56.316 --> 23:57.056 [SPEAKER_03]: You may as well. 23:57.217 --> 23:58.938 [SPEAKER_03]: They'll make him enough where he can't refuse. 23:59.619 --> 24:05.504 [SPEAKER_03]: And they'll do it so that they're the Dodgers, whatever the penalties are. 24:05.704 --> 24:07.806 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I'm assuming they're going to be grandfathered. 24:07.866 --> 24:12.290 [SPEAKER_03]: They can't MLB can't nullen void the deals they've already signed. 24:12.390 --> 24:17.254 [SPEAKER_03]: So why not get one more in, you know, before the CBA. 24:17.274 --> 24:21.938 [SPEAKER_03]: And if that's a $400 million deal, I don't think, I don't think school will 24:26.987 --> 24:36.333 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know who the number three guy was on the 1990s Chicago Bulls, you know, it was Jordan Pippin and someone else, but imagine not. 24:37.160 --> 24:37.741 [SPEAKER_03]: Was it Robin? 24:37.821 --> 24:39.942 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, that was the second. 24:39.962 --> 24:51.131 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I've been the first to beat the third guy was the horror-scrant Okay, take a look at that Logging on this. 24:51.151 --> 24:54.193 [SPEAKER_03]: He wasn't diapers that year, but he knows that but he was there. 24:54.314 --> 25:02.120 [SPEAKER_03]: He actually is up the game Self-owns didn't exist, but he took a selfie with you know, no, I'm kidding 25:03.422 --> 25:10.897 [SPEAKER_03]: Lots of inside jokes here, the audience isn't going to keep up on those, but imagine saying no to that ride. 25:12.135 --> 25:21.741 [SPEAKER_03]: you know, if you're a Horus grant type guy, so not that scooble isn't more of a generational talent because he is, but so I think that's going to happen. 25:21.961 --> 25:27.285 [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe maybe Brazil should should take, should take Rushman's temperature on it. 25:27.425 --> 25:36.410 [SPEAKER_03]: And if not, you know, I mean, if he doesn't commit to him at catcher, be like, listen, this is probably as she does last year, assuming there's a strike. 25:37.191 --> 25:37.911 [SPEAKER_03]: We might need a DH. 25:39.138 --> 25:40.939 [SPEAKER_03]: We don't know what Wilson is long term. 25:40.999 --> 25:43.660 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, he's going to be what 35 next year. 25:44.401 --> 25:46.462 [SPEAKER_03]: Something like that, 34 or 35 at least. 25:48.783 --> 25:53.105 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, if you signed Rushman to a five or six year deal, and I think that gets it done. 25:55.266 --> 26:00.649 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, then well, you kind of added value to what you did today. 26:02.882 --> 26:05.743 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I do think an extension is probably likely. 26:06.143 --> 26:11.625 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think you give up that many players in that kind of package if you didn't already have it in the back of your mind that, okay. 26:12.045 --> 26:18.828 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, we're gonna give this guy four or five of your contract and he's gonna be our guy behind the plate, you know, going forward. 26:19.648 --> 26:23.153 [SPEAKER_01]: I think Russian is too good defensively to take him out of that spot. 26:23.453 --> 26:29.422 [SPEAKER_01]: It's just a matter of can he hold up their health-wise, but if he gets the risk thing sorted out, he should be good to go. 26:30.583 --> 26:34.208 [SPEAKER_01]: The point about Marcelo Myers, not Marcelo Myers, he's a good one, because 26:37.000 --> 26:39.901 [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like there's three reasons why he's still here. 26:40.182 --> 26:51.007 [SPEAKER_01]: The first is obviously that his value must be solo, that they were calling around and teams are going, yeah, I mean, we'll give you a player to be named later, but that's about it. 26:51.767 --> 26:52.987 [SPEAKER_01]: I think the second reason is 26:54.208 --> 27:08.977 [SPEAKER_01]: that the red sauce kind of have what feels like a formal thing with the ran where they feel like if they trade him away he's going to go back to what he was last year or even 2024 and they're going to miss out on him flipping the switch. 27:09.518 --> 27:12.500 [SPEAKER_01]: Like I think there's a part of that organization that feels like 27:13.335 --> 27:14.796 [SPEAKER_01]: That player is still in there. 27:15.276 --> 27:16.997 [SPEAKER_01]: We just have to find a way to unlock him. 27:17.597 --> 27:24.360 [SPEAKER_01]: And we don't want to trade him to like the white socks or Houston or San Diego or whatever, and watch him go off and do it there. 27:24.880 --> 27:33.064 [SPEAKER_01]: We'd rather keep him here and hope that someone gets to go and maybe now the deadlines gone and he feels reassured that he's not being traded. 27:33.124 --> 27:38.327 [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe that puts his mind at ease, maybe that helps him kind of get his head out of his rear end. 27:38.947 --> 27:58.890 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, and I also think the uncertainty around Roman Anthony led to that too because yeah, he's starting to hit off a tee now But Loomer Looney made a good point on a broadcast the other night where he said, you know, the problem with hand injuries is These guys have to wait until they get healthy enough to start swinging and then they start taking like a hundred swings a day and Because they just want to get back and you know 27:59.270 --> 28:04.012 [SPEAKER_01]: And sometimes all it takes is for one of those swings to go wrong and they're shut down again. 28:04.752 --> 28:10.194 [SPEAKER_01]: So it's really hard to figure out and you know, really project when Anthony is going to come back. 28:10.234 --> 28:11.275 [SPEAKER_01]: You hope that it's soon. 28:11.735 --> 28:17.537 [SPEAKER_01]: But again, if he hits a ball to T the wrong way and he irritates that finger, then they're going to shut him down for another week. 28:17.697 --> 28:19.938 [SPEAKER_01]: And that's just more time that he's going to miss. 28:20.038 --> 28:24.420 [SPEAKER_01]: So I think they looked at and said, yeah, Daren isn't playing well right now, but 28:25.080 --> 28:28.022 [SPEAKER_01]: would we rather have Nate Eaton starting full-time in left field? 28:28.202 --> 28:34.126 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, maybe he gives you a better performance, but DeRan has a potential to be a much better player. 28:34.586 --> 28:37.048 [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's why they're hanging on to them. 28:37.188 --> 28:47.175 [SPEAKER_01]: So the the short stop concerns I agree that that's frustrating, but I was encouraged to hear, you know, when Brazil is kind of listing off, guys that can help it that position, 28:47.565 --> 29:01.178 [SPEAKER_01]: He did mention Franklin areas like I do think there's a possibility we see Franklin areas by September and that he could be playing shortstop and because I think that report about them not feeling good about Trevor's story is a hundred percent. 29:01.338 --> 29:03.460 [SPEAKER_01]: I think they look at Trevor's story and go yeah you're. 29:03.920 --> 29:04.580 [SPEAKER_01]: you're not the guy. 29:04.861 --> 29:11.204 [SPEAKER_01]: If you come back, maybe you'll get some starts here and there, but I think they want to see what they got in areas. 29:11.224 --> 29:25.572 [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's why they didn't trade them, and I think that's why you know, that's going to be the plan going forward, which I hope is the case, because I think if anything, that could be your big, you know, back that you had from within, instead of having to, you know, 29:26.292 --> 29:29.714 [SPEAKER_01]: trade, you know, Roman and Eris and whatever for like a CJ Abrams. 29:29.754 --> 29:33.916 [SPEAKER_01]: I think they looked at and said, well, we might have our own CJ Abrams in AAA right now. 29:34.656 --> 29:39.299 [SPEAKER_01]: So hopefully that's what they're thinking is. 29:39.599 --> 29:47.543 [SPEAKER_01]: One thing I wanted to ask, because obviously we've talked about Rushman, the other big trade, Marcelo Meyer going to San Francisco and exchange for Eric Miller. 29:48.163 --> 29:49.244 [SPEAKER_01]: Red Talks also got a 21-year-old 29:55.225 --> 30:01.591 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, so Marcelo Meyer gone is time embossing his done Eric Miller is now added to your bullpen Charlie. 30:01.611 --> 30:07.216 [SPEAKER_01]: I know you like this guy because you you sent me that video of him striking out sell Stuart and barking him down. 30:07.316 --> 30:08.718 [SPEAKER_01]: So, uh, I am about to deal with the deal. 30:09.643 --> 30:13.964 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I'm warm and fuzzy in all the right places, so you could take that for what it's worth. 30:14.044 --> 30:22.106 [SPEAKER_02]: But you got a guy who strikes out, uh, Salster who's, uh, another rookie playing for the Cincinnati Reds and he's sick. 30:22.166 --> 30:22.966 [SPEAKER_02]: I, we got to look it up. 30:23.226 --> 30:24.866 [SPEAKER_02]: Six, five, two, and sixty nine. 30:24.906 --> 30:26.667 [SPEAKER_02]: That's the not f and around crowd. 30:26.987 --> 30:28.727 [SPEAKER_02]: That's, that's two Charlie's right there. 30:28.967 --> 30:32.788 [SPEAKER_02]: So I use myself as a unit of measure of weight here as two Charlie's. 30:33.753 --> 30:56.099 [SPEAKER_02]: That's a lot of way to be slinging around, but I also just kind of like that attitude like that, I mean, he, he, this is a guy that if he's kind of coming at you, you got him, you got Chapman, you have Wilson contraris, you have Jared Iran, you're going to have several voices that are not going to be afraid to let everybody know how they're feeling. 30:57.881 --> 31:06.444 [SPEAKER_02]: I really do like this move, and you get rid of possibly depending on how you feel one of the problem children in Boston. 31:06.744 --> 31:14.567 [SPEAKER_02]: Marcelo Meyer, Roman Anthony, there was some rumors going around that they weren't great clubhouse guys while you just eliminated half the problem. 31:14.707 --> 31:16.328 [SPEAKER_02]: Marcelo's now going west side. 31:17.208 --> 31:17.989 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm cool with that. 31:18.429 --> 31:22.812 [SPEAKER_02]: The other guy that we got in that move was Carlos Gutierrez. 31:23.873 --> 31:30.037 [SPEAKER_02]: Not sure where he's going to fit into the long-term picture of the Boston Red Sox, but the the big piece in this one was Eric Miller. 31:30.057 --> 31:36.201 [SPEAKER_02]: You're getting another fire flame-throwing guy from the left side to company O'Rollis Chapman. 31:36.842 --> 31:37.002 [SPEAKER_02]: And 31:39.111 --> 31:56.269 [SPEAKER_02]: you didn't this wasn't a net negative trait you didn't get rid of something to get something in the sense of oh yeah we're just we're getting rid of something good because for the sake of making a trait no you you improved your bullpen which was an area of need you got rid of a potential headache regardless of how you feel 31:56.749 --> 31:58.609 [SPEAKER_02]: Some people viewed it, some people did not. 31:59.050 --> 32:01.410 [SPEAKER_02]: The experiment in Boston was not working out. 32:01.630 --> 32:03.610 [SPEAKER_02]: The injuries did not go away. 32:03.911 --> 32:07.051 [SPEAKER_02]: We never saw a fully healthy Marcelo Meyer. 32:07.131 --> 32:08.091 [SPEAKER_02]: And maybe we will. 32:08.191 --> 32:10.312 [SPEAKER_02]: And years down the line will go, oh, man. 32:10.692 --> 32:12.492 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, now this is what he looks like when he's healthy. 32:12.952 --> 32:16.973 [SPEAKER_02]: Or we're going to see what happens when another team has to try to deal with it. 32:17.073 --> 32:20.654 [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe they can fix the headache that is Marcelo Meyer. 32:20.694 --> 32:24.955 [SPEAKER_02]: But me personally, another win, left handed thrower, 32:25.927 --> 32:30.048 [SPEAKER_02]: flamethrower with an attitude and not a bad one. 32:30.128 --> 32:33.629 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure he's going to just mold right into the boss and fall to yourself. 32:33.669 --> 32:34.329 [SPEAKER_02]: No complaints for me. 32:36.110 --> 32:39.170 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, anytime you can make your bullpen better, I think that's a good move. 32:39.530 --> 32:42.651 [SPEAKER_00]: And you see every world series team has a great bullpen. 32:43.231 --> 32:49.993 [SPEAKER_00]: It always always is just a backbone of a great world series team and you're giving away a guy that 32:50.980 --> 32:53.482 [SPEAKER_00]: I think we all kind of were ready to give away. 32:54.363 --> 33:03.230 [SPEAKER_00]: And if what all the rumors, you know, I don't really like the, oh, he's about influence on Rome and he's taking Rome and out Roman's a grown man. 33:03.390 --> 33:06.753 [SPEAKER_00]: Like the fees going out and getting him at all the time. 33:06.793 --> 33:08.674 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's not blame other people for that. 33:08.734 --> 33:17.541 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's, you know, but if he was, you know, if they said they needed them split up, then they needed them split up. 33:17.621 --> 33:19.023 [SPEAKER_00]: And obviously you choose Roman. 33:19.858 --> 33:30.006 [SPEAKER_00]: and you get rid of my air, and to bring in, you know, a lefty, you know, a lefty flamethrower that he said is, you know, it's only gonna help us. 33:30.606 --> 33:45.038 [SPEAKER_00]: There was stories about what lock feeling tired, and you know, now we now we replace, you know, not not replace them, but now we just add, you know, give them help with another, you know, another really good back-and-guy that is absolutely going to help our team, and 33:45.800 --> 33:47.661 [SPEAKER_00]: helps your team and the playoffs tremendously. 33:47.722 --> 33:49.683 [SPEAKER_00]: And Meyer was not going to do that. 33:50.724 --> 33:58.130 [SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, my question now, more even about the trade is, is Roman going to come back quicker than we thought. 33:58.170 --> 34:02.193 [SPEAKER_00]: Now that he's down that Meyer has gone, where they really is putting them up. 34:03.274 --> 34:04.775 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, is he going to be rushed back now? 34:04.815 --> 34:07.357 [SPEAKER_00]: Is he going to be back next week or the week after? 34:07.377 --> 34:10.159 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I think that's something to watch out for. 34:11.626 --> 34:16.228 [SPEAKER_02]: Hey, Terry, before you give your take, I just want to let, you know, he has that sexy stat that you love. 34:16.548 --> 34:20.630 [SPEAKER_02]: His canine almost went up 200% from last year to this year. 34:21.050 --> 34:23.751 [SPEAKER_02]: Last year, an unhealthy 6.6. 34:24.191 --> 34:28.973 [SPEAKER_02]: This year, 12.4, in two more readings, he has 23 more strikeouts. 34:28.993 --> 34:29.333 [SPEAKER_02]: Go ahead. 34:32.855 --> 34:35.095 [SPEAKER_03]: That sounds awesome, but... 34:42.719 --> 34:46.723 [SPEAKER_03]: you know, you've got Guerrero Slate and Whitlock and Chapman. 34:47.403 --> 34:51.227 [SPEAKER_03]: I've never seen a bullpen that deep even in the world series years. 34:51.747 --> 35:00.075 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, it's great to add a reliever to that, but we have talked recently about the sustainability of the current rotation. 35:00.155 --> 35:03.558 [SPEAKER_03]: Totally aben it or about to blow well past there. 35:04.620 --> 35:08.103 [SPEAKER_03]: previous innings pitch, which is around 100. 35:08.143 --> 35:09.404 [SPEAKER_03]: I think totally might be 104. 35:09.924 --> 35:12.286 [SPEAKER_03]: So he'll like see that in his next start. 35:13.027 --> 35:31.202 [SPEAKER_03]: So I mean, I think a back end arm, you know, I wouldn't set the bar necessarily high for that, but a choir guy that will allow you to be inserted into that rotation and maybe you can skip a couple of totally starts just to give him some rest, give him a breather, same with Bennett. 35:32.122 --> 35:37.985 [SPEAKER_03]: and you know, I much rather would have allocated the resources for that. 35:38.706 --> 35:42.327 [SPEAKER_03]: Marcelo Meyer blew it big time in Boston. 35:42.407 --> 35:43.508 [SPEAKER_03]: He couldn't stay healthy. 35:43.548 --> 35:44.749 [SPEAKER_03]: I think he lacked toughness. 35:44.789 --> 35:45.929 [SPEAKER_03]: He lacked discipline. 35:47.890 --> 35:54.794 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, he kind of looked at it as a party and you know, when he really needed to be a professional. 36:01.826 --> 36:09.712 [SPEAKER_03]: going out in the day, just every night and not performing, can you imagine? 36:10.352 --> 36:16.016 [SPEAKER_03]: Just look at the level of unprofessionalism here from Meyer. 36:16.757 --> 36:25.723 [SPEAKER_03]: And Doug says, well, don't don't play Meyer for for Roman Anthony screwing around. 36:26.664 --> 36:29.786 [SPEAKER_03]: And that's true, but I love the message it sends to Anthony. 36:31.462 --> 36:36.607 [SPEAKER_03]: If you're not a professional here, we'll find someone who is. 36:38.388 --> 36:51.980 [SPEAKER_03]: So I like that, but it was another wonky kind of deal where I, I think Meyer did have value and you probably could have, I can't think of an example of a back end guy at the moment. 36:52.000 --> 36:56.164 [SPEAKER_03]: A lot of people brought up Michael Walker, I think he does have significant trade value. 36:57.043 --> 36:59.626 [SPEAKER_03]: And we probably wouldn't have lined up on that. 36:59.807 --> 37:06.695 [SPEAKER_03]: But I think by the time the playoffs come, we're really going to be missing Connelly early. 37:06.955 --> 37:08.177 [SPEAKER_03]: I really believe that. 37:11.590 --> 37:20.137 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, starting pitching depth, you know, would have been nice to add a little bit there because you're right about to Oli, you know, that's gonna come back to bite them at some point. 37:20.317 --> 37:23.300 [SPEAKER_01]: They did trade away a lot of their starting pitching depth. 37:23.360 --> 37:25.321 [SPEAKER_01]: So that is something to keep an eye on. 37:25.341 --> 37:26.842 [SPEAKER_01]: They're gonna have to restock that now. 37:27.943 --> 37:35.129 [SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, it's one of those things we're hopefully, you know, who knows McCrochet, he's probably not going back at this point. 37:36.030 --> 37:39.172 [SPEAKER_01]: They may feel like they still have enough, even with toli coming up, you know, 37:39.913 --> 37:49.117 [SPEAKER_01]: that sort of innings thing, you know, lurking a little bit, um, so yeah, you can definitely say a starter would have been nice, but again, what were the prices? 37:49.678 --> 37:58.822 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you know, I, I haven't checked in and what the potteries gave up for Casey Mies, but I think even if you had tree for guy like that, do I love Casey Mies? 37:59.442 --> 38:03.905 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's fine, it's good, but I think you would have worked in Boston, probably not. 38:04.345 --> 38:06.686 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I think the angels were asking for a haul for Jose 38:09.347 --> 38:11.369 [SPEAKER_01]: So again, it depends on what the price is worth. 38:11.389 --> 38:20.196 [SPEAKER_01]: If teams are saying, you know, are you assessed to be in the deal or Anthony's got to be in the deal, then, you know, I kind of don't blame Craig for saying, no, we're not doing that. 38:20.436 --> 38:22.178 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, we have good starting pitching already. 38:22.638 --> 38:24.520 [SPEAKER_01]: It's not something that we absolutely need. 38:24.580 --> 38:27.022 [SPEAKER_01]: It's a nice to have for it's not an necessity. 38:27.062 --> 38:30.945 [SPEAKER_01]: The necessity was a bat, which he got. 38:31.305 --> 38:32.866 [SPEAKER_01]: I think bullpen wasn't a necessity. 38:33.247 --> 38:34.448 [SPEAKER_01]: So he why don't got that. 38:35.268 --> 38:42.350 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, he tried with Curtis Meade, I mean, that's that one kind of got taken out of his hands, so that was a tough blow. 38:42.910 --> 38:47.151 [SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, in terms of Marcelo Meyer, he really did blow his opportunity here. 38:47.551 --> 38:51.552 [SPEAKER_01]: And you can tell the team was done because they publicly buried him. 38:51.992 --> 38:56.893 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, there were reports coming out saying, yeah, there are people within the Red Sox who question his fortitude. 38:57.493 --> 39:00.415 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you don't say that about a player and then hang onto them. 39:00.515 --> 39:06.898 [SPEAKER_01]: So the fact they said that and then shift them out for a relief picture, I mean, that was the Red Sox saying, this kid doesn't get it. 39:07.258 --> 39:14.842 [SPEAKER_01]: He is not a professional, you know, yeah, he was the first round pick four years ago, but we're done waiting, we're done waiting for Marcelo to grow up. 39:15.442 --> 39:20.625 [SPEAKER_01]: And so, have fun in San Francisco, like that's a message, I think they sent. 39:20.665 --> 39:24.287 [SPEAKER_01]: And I agree with Terry, like, I like the message it sends to Roman Anthony, too. 39:25.507 --> 39:38.362 [SPEAKER_01]: You're not protected here, just because you shot through our system and you're a, you know, really talented and you're this, you know, high draft pick, all that we will ship your ass out of town if you don't get in shape here and if you don't get your head out of your ass. 39:38.883 --> 39:39.103 [SPEAKER_01]: So, 39:39.777 --> 39:44.663 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, whether Mark, Meyer, and Anthony needed to be split up, I think it was still the right thing to do that. 39:45.084 --> 39:49.769 [SPEAKER_01]: Just because of the message it sends, not just Anthony, but to all these kids, you know, even like a franklin' area. 39:49.790 --> 39:51.371 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like, you still have to work. 39:51.792 --> 39:52.853 [SPEAKER_01]: You still gotta put the work in. 39:53.054 --> 39:54.736 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, nothing is promised to you. 39:55.276 --> 39:58.540 [SPEAKER_01]: So, I think they got a little more mature because of that. 39:59.241 --> 40:01.103 [SPEAKER_01]: and I like Eric Mills's profile. 40:01.123 --> 40:04.306 [SPEAKER_01]: I think the way thing can really say is the walk rate is a little bit high. 40:05.147 --> 40:15.937 [SPEAKER_01]: That's something I'm a little bit concerned about, but otherwise, he's another one of these big lefties that throws hard has good extension, so I think ultimately it's going to be value ad for sure. 40:17.640 --> 40:20.802 [SPEAKER_01]: So, do you guys have any other final thoughts? 40:20.822 --> 40:22.464 [SPEAKER_01]: I think we've pretty much covered all those. 40:22.484 --> 40:24.465 [SPEAKER_01]: I know that Eli White trade was kind of a weird. 40:24.605 --> 40:34.752 [SPEAKER_01]: Just that felt like a throw-in deal, but, you know, they'll be a depth-out field, or I guess, and I know they said that's for the benefit of Sade-on to give him some days off. 40:34.813 --> 40:38.095 [SPEAKER_01]: So, we'll see what happens there, but any final thoughts from you guys? 40:38.615 --> 40:39.836 [SPEAKER_00]: Dave Roberts, yeah. 40:39.876 --> 40:40.717 [SPEAKER_00]: Throw away trade. 40:41.540 --> 40:42.360 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, true. 40:42.701 --> 40:43.981 [SPEAKER_02]: Was he a throwaway trade? 40:44.501 --> 40:45.842 [SPEAKER_02]: We brought him in for one job. 40:45.902 --> 40:47.943 [SPEAKER_02]: It was to steal bases if we needed. 40:47.963 --> 40:48.943 [SPEAKER_00]: That's what I'm saying. 40:49.003 --> 40:53.025 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, you know, he was maybe that's what they're bringing this guy for. 40:53.065 --> 40:53.866 [SPEAKER_00]: He's a speedster. 40:54.066 --> 40:57.127 [SPEAKER_00]: So maybe we need someone, you know, you have to know what we need to bag. 40:58.548 --> 40:59.448 [SPEAKER_02]: So this is my thing. 40:59.468 --> 41:00.649 [SPEAKER_02]: So real quick on that, Dougie. 41:00.769 --> 41:07.912 [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like if you're going to bring on somebody that is just wheels, like just straight wheels, it's because you've already plugged up all your holes. 41:08.552 --> 41:16.077 [SPEAKER_02]: And that's the one condition, one situation, you have one job and he was there for that job and he did his job. 41:16.898 --> 41:22.662 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if it necessarily makes sense if you possibly still have maybe holes, maybe, maybe I'm missing something. 41:22.702 --> 41:24.663 [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe there is something else to them that I just don't know. 41:25.004 --> 41:26.565 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm still going to look them up and find out. 41:27.185 --> 41:29.027 [SPEAKER_02]: But I will say this much for closing thoughts. 41:29.827 --> 41:31.889 [SPEAKER_02]: We are a better team now that we work before. 41:32.670 --> 41:35.552 [SPEAKER_02]: It's still sucks that we don't have commonly early here anymore. 41:35.913 --> 41:39.956 [SPEAKER_02]: I understand that, but we do have a couple of reasons to be positive. 41:40.577 --> 41:46.342 [SPEAKER_02]: I think the overall trajectory of this team is now going in a positive direction. 41:46.523 --> 41:48.624 [SPEAKER_02]: We will end up continuing this role. 41:49.405 --> 42:01.495 [SPEAKER_02]: is it going to be, you know, 15 game winstries again, probably not, but I mean, dude, you don't accidentally win against the best team in baseball and then sweep them for their eighth straight series win. 42:02.076 --> 42:04.277 [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm I'm going to ride the high. 42:04.377 --> 42:12.044 [SPEAKER_02]: Terry, you and I before the air, we talked about this morning, the American League is not as difficult, it's not as hard, it's not as as crazy. 42:13.107 --> 42:16.270 [SPEAKER_02]: We're now five games out of being in first place in the American League. 42:16.830 --> 42:20.694 [SPEAKER_02]: A month ago, we were the worst team in baseball or maybe a little bit more than that. 42:20.854 --> 42:22.035 [SPEAKER_02]: So, I don't know. 42:22.355 --> 42:28.781 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna choose to be a little bit positive myself just say, dude, it's gonna be awesome. 42:28.801 --> 42:35.647 [SPEAKER_02]: Like if we end up beating the Yankees and taking them out, like you've already said that they're a dumpster fire, they're just crashing. 42:39.889 --> 42:51.601 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and I guess, you know, I was just kind of looking around the American League seeing who did what the Tampa Bay race got pretty proupted a day, very nice rotation piece there. 42:52.682 --> 42:55.245 [SPEAKER_03]: The Cleveland Guardians seem to be really busy. 42:55.545 --> 42:56.666 [SPEAKER_03]: Did they get Joe Adele? 42:56.846 --> 42:57.767 [SPEAKER_03]: It looks like they did. 42:58.428 --> 42:58.788 [SPEAKER_03]: they did. 42:59.309 --> 42:59.949 [SPEAKER_02]: They got Joe Dahl. 43:00.749 --> 43:07.614 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they added, they made a big trade with the nationals and I want to say they added one more. 43:08.294 --> 43:11.896 [SPEAKER_03]: The Houston Astros, I noticed they got Dalton Bar Show. 43:12.617 --> 43:14.658 [SPEAKER_03]: That's a great ball bark for him. 43:15.799 --> 43:18.821 [SPEAKER_03]: Perhaps he'll look a little different there. 43:19.421 --> 43:22.383 [SPEAKER_03]: White socks seem to have a lot of 43:24.241 --> 43:32.410 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, big plans, but they ended up with Joey Bart in Brenton, Doyle, which I think kind of misses the mark. 43:32.710 --> 43:34.972 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think they really got a ton better. 43:35.773 --> 43:37.014 [SPEAKER_03]: They added depth, I guess. 43:38.236 --> 43:40.378 [SPEAKER_03]: And then who am I forgetting? 43:40.818 --> 43:41.439 [SPEAKER_03]: Let's see. 43:41.499 --> 43:46.464 [SPEAKER_03]: I think that was about it for the real notable moves in the American League. 43:47.445 --> 43:50.747 [SPEAKER_03]: Um, sometimes got worse, but I was nationally teams. 43:50.767 --> 43:51.627 [SPEAKER_03]: They traded too. 43:51.788 --> 43:54.209 [SPEAKER_03]: So, um, but yeah. 43:55.550 --> 43:57.091 [SPEAKER_02]: So, I'm looking at it right now. 43:57.131 --> 44:01.233 [SPEAKER_02]: They got foster grip, and they got our former first basement, the thing you'll owe. 44:02.213 --> 44:03.354 [SPEAKER_02]: That's who else they added. 44:03.374 --> 44:05.515 [SPEAKER_02]: And he's actually not doing that bad this year. 44:05.895 --> 44:06.696 [SPEAKER_03]: The Guardian's dead. 44:07.737 --> 44:08.218 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. 44:09.359 --> 44:09.739 [SPEAKER_03]: Austin. 44:10.299 --> 44:12.341 [SPEAKER_02]: Isn't that the like the 30 year old? 44:12.822 --> 44:13.462 [SPEAKER_02]: Isn't that guy? 44:13.782 --> 44:15.744 [SPEAKER_02]: But one who showed up at the, he was at the All-Star game. 44:15.764 --> 44:17.125 [SPEAKER_02]: Isn't that that guy from the Nationals? 44:17.526 --> 44:18.346 [SPEAKER_02]: He's like, so he was. 44:18.767 --> 44:19.267 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 44:19.948 --> 44:21.869 [SPEAKER_02]: He had a fun little story during the All-Star game. 44:21.889 --> 44:25.032 [SPEAKER_02]: They were talking about how he was out of baseball for like what five years or six years. 44:25.052 --> 44:27.614 [SPEAKER_02]: And then he came back and he's been a star in 2026. 44:29.760 --> 44:30.340 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, interesting. 44:30.700 --> 44:38.362 [SPEAKER_03]: They could be quite like Guardians 3.06 ERA strikes out way less than one for inning though. 44:38.482 --> 44:46.083 [SPEAKER_03]: So but the guardians are kind of one of the better pitching factories and major league baseball. 44:46.203 --> 44:47.403 [SPEAKER_03]: So perhaps they'll 44:58.589 --> 45:00.669 [SPEAKER_03]: tore it up on the American League side. 45:00.749 --> 45:02.130 [SPEAKER_03]: So we'll see. 45:02.150 --> 45:05.330 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, arguably, maybe the Red Sox did do the best of them all. 45:05.410 --> 45:08.651 [SPEAKER_03]: I still thought we had a great bullpen as it was. 45:08.771 --> 45:16.793 [SPEAKER_03]: And I don't know why you couldn't get like a George Springer type guy from Toronto, you know, put my air in that deal. 45:17.633 --> 45:21.794 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, get Springer as a rental, making your DH type thing. 45:22.914 --> 45:24.054 [SPEAKER_03]: But anyway, 45:31.931 --> 45:34.792 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, we'll see what those additions are able to do. 45:34.892 --> 45:39.314 [SPEAKER_01]: So season gets back underway tomorrow night, the white socks are in town. 45:39.474 --> 45:45.436 [SPEAKER_01]: So the new look, white socks, I don't know if present in Doyle, beyond the roster at that point, but we'll see. 45:46.096 --> 45:48.197 [SPEAKER_01]: So tomorrow night, seven, 10 start. 45:48.357 --> 45:50.638 [SPEAKER_01]: It's Davis Martin for the white socks. 45:50.738 --> 45:53.079 [SPEAKER_01]: No one listed for the red socks just yet. 45:53.139 --> 45:55.580 [SPEAKER_01]: So it looks like they haven't set their rotation. 45:55.680 --> 45:59.301 [SPEAKER_01]: Davis Martin, I'm in a good year, but red socks rough them up last time. 45:59.601 --> 46:00.902 [SPEAKER_01]: They played really well against him. 46:01.742 --> 46:02.683 [SPEAKER_01]: Charlie, I'll start with you. 46:02.703 --> 46:04.185 [SPEAKER_01]: How do you feel about tomorrow night? 46:07.068 --> 46:08.609 [SPEAKER_02]: You're on mute. 46:08.629 --> 46:09.530 [SPEAKER_02]: I try to get myself off. 46:09.550 --> 46:09.850 [SPEAKER_02]: Sorry. 46:10.591 --> 46:12.974 [SPEAKER_02]: So on ESPN, it says it's sandables pitching. 46:13.955 --> 46:17.939 [SPEAKER_02]: I actually want to believe that the Red Sox will win game one. 46:18.719 --> 46:21.622 [SPEAKER_02]: I know I sound like the Cinderella Charlie here, but 46:23.329 --> 46:26.271 [SPEAKER_02]: Dude, if it ain't broke right now, don't fix it. 46:26.431 --> 46:28.093 [SPEAKER_02]: And right now, this team keeps rolling. 46:28.393 --> 46:31.475 [SPEAKER_02]: So I don't know how the white socks are gonna look. 46:31.495 --> 46:34.537 [SPEAKER_02]: We don't know if they're gonna be having the additions added in the game. 46:34.838 --> 46:36.379 [SPEAKER_02]: Do we know if he's playing tomorrow? 46:36.399 --> 46:36.959 [SPEAKER_02]: We don't know yet. 46:37.259 --> 46:38.820 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure he'll be in the light, we'll see. 46:39.041 --> 46:40.762 [SPEAKER_02]: But, you know what, I'm gonna say this. 46:40.802 --> 46:42.103 [SPEAKER_02]: I think the red socks win game one. 46:42.503 --> 46:43.104 [SPEAKER_02]: Why the heck not? 46:45.966 --> 46:47.067 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you agree? 46:47.087 --> 46:48.127 [SPEAKER_00]: We keep this train rolling. 46:48.267 --> 46:50.169 [SPEAKER_00]: We're coming home. 46:50.869 --> 46:51.610 [SPEAKER_00]: We're feeling good. 46:52.112 --> 47:03.205 [SPEAKER_00]: we're going to get that home record, you know, looking better and we're going to start this series, you know, to get another, you know, to get our night series in a row, winning the first game is huge. 47:04.086 --> 47:04.967 [SPEAKER_00]: And I think they do it. 47:08.416 --> 47:13.980 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, you know, Adley Rushman won't be in the line up tomorrow, but Chicago has been playing a pretty good ball. 47:14.320 --> 47:36.457 [SPEAKER_03]: They just, they just took two out of three out of three out of three out of three out of three out of three out of three out of three out of three out of three out of three out of three out of three out of three out of three out of three out of three out of three out of three out of three out of three out of three out of three out of three out of three out of three out of three out of three out of three out of three out of three out of three out of three out of three out of three out of three out of three out of three out of three out of three out of three out of three out of three out of three out of three out of three out of three out of three out of three out of three out of three out of three out of three out of three out of three out of three out of three out of three out of three out of three out of three out of three 47:36.850 --> 47:38.291 [SPEAKER_03]: They're playing okay ball. 47:38.351 --> 47:39.331 [SPEAKER_03]: It'll be at Fenway. 47:39.791 --> 47:47.775 [SPEAKER_03]: So we'll see, um, I think we'll probably have sunny Grego what game two game two or three, something like that. 47:47.915 --> 47:48.876 [SPEAKER_03]: He'll be in this series. 47:50.076 --> 47:52.737 [SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, not a lot. 47:52.757 --> 47:54.138 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't see why we won't win it, right? 47:54.298 --> 48:00.581 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, just someone will step up, maybe, maybe Rafael will win this one on his own. 48:03.367 --> 48:04.728 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, I feel pretty good about it. 48:04.788 --> 48:07.390 [SPEAKER_01]: Like I said, they roughed up David's Martin last time. 48:07.450 --> 48:09.952 [SPEAKER_01]: So I'll see why there's any reason they can't do it again. 48:09.972 --> 48:13.375 [SPEAKER_01]: I think red socks are playing really good baseball right now. 48:13.395 --> 48:16.738 [SPEAKER_01]: I know the white socks are too, but I mean, you're coming off of sweep of the Dodgers. 48:16.778 --> 48:18.619 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's, you know, that's nothing to sneeze at. 48:18.699 --> 48:21.462 [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I think they're writing a high right now. 48:21.522 --> 48:23.143 [SPEAKER_01]: I think they probably feel pretty good. 48:23.383 --> 48:26.646 [SPEAKER_01]: After today and after the moves that were made, I think some guys are 48:27.146 --> 48:40.532 [SPEAKER_01]: Kind of taken a breather like Sharon Durand probably feels pretty good that he wasn't traded so You know keep riding the wave and yeah, we'll see how the white socks series goes so we will be back on the air tomorrow night after that