[SPEAKER_02]: firebreslo podcast presented by the bastards of Boston baseball.
[SPEAKER_02]: We are the Goldilocks Red Sox podcast because there is not one unanimous decision or opinion on this team.
[SPEAKER_02]: We are all over the map.
[SPEAKER_02]: We have people that are fully buying their world series tickets and some that would sell this team tomorrow.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm your host Chris Felico, the Italian Italian joined by Matt Holmes at MLB Matt, or I'm sorry,
[SPEAKER_02]: And then one Leriano, our vibes guy at one on MLB, gentlemen, we saw some unbelievable things with this boss and redzox team in LA.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, this could be a potential world series preview.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're now 23 and 3 in our last 26 games, 28 and 5 with the six sweep in our last 10 series.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm floating on Cloud9.
[SPEAKER_02]: What did you think of this redzox Dodger series?
[SPEAKER_01]: it's been awesome and awesome run.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm I feel like I'm dreaming.
[SPEAKER_01]: I kind of can't believe it.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're 14 games under 500 and here we are coming off the numbers.
[SPEAKER_01]: You just said I believe in that stretch that makes us now 14 and oh against four of the top teams in baseball starting back with that white socks sweep the four games sweepers the Yankees the four games sweepers the raise, which was after delay on the all start break, of course, and now a three game sweep on the road against the back to back defending champs and baseball.
[SPEAKER_01]: it's just an incredible one.
[SPEAKER_01]: We July was unbelievable and August has often even better started at 2 and 0.
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll get a little more into just kind of the details of the games, but I kind of wanted to just start with a tweet from Sarah Langs.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think by now we all know that July
[SPEAKER_01]: 21 and 4 is the best month in the history of the Red Sox organization, which is unbelievable.
[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously something that we as Red Sox fans have never seen, but if you go a layer further in terms of all of baseball, all of the franchise is in all of the seasons and months that have been played over the last 100 plus years, Sarah Langs, one of the great statisticians of our era here,
[SPEAKER_01]: The Red Sox are the first team in MLB history to enter a calendar month, 10 plus games under 500, and leave said month, 7 games over 500, and here's the even crazier part of that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Only 2 previous teams had even entered 10 games under 500, and exited that month, 2 games over 500.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we blew that out of the water by 5 games, that's over 3x.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm torn.
[SPEAKER_01]: I really want to.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm almost ready to give Craig all the flowers in the world, but in my opinion he has one more test to pass and that test is up tomorrow at five p.m. Eastern time.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll get more into the trade deadline.
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah cloud nine says it all.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's been an awesome run.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's been a fun run.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's been a blast to get the summer back and witness history.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the vibes are at an all-time high at this point, like if you're not writing with this team, then honestly, I'm gonna be completely transparent here, got a Boston Red Sox fan.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's really that simple.
[SPEAKER_00]: They have checked every single box.
[SPEAKER_00]: As Matt mentioned, you know, they had the best record in the month of July.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it was 21 and 4.
[SPEAKER_00]: There are 25 and O when they score four runs, guys.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's how dominant this team has been.
[SPEAKER_00]: In the month of July and continuing into this month, where they've swept the best team in this decade.
[SPEAKER_00]: You can see in our generation, if you want to compare them to the late 90s, of the Yankees of the late 90s.
[SPEAKER_00]: They've checked every single box.
[SPEAKER_00]: They pitch extremely well.
[SPEAKER_00]: They play great defense.
[SPEAKER_00]: They play smart baseball under chat Tracy.
[SPEAKER_00]: What else do you want?
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm at the point where I'm going to be honest with you guys.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to give Craig Breslow his flowers.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm done with the whole fire, Breslow nonsense.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's not going anywhere anyways.
[SPEAKER_00]: Every single guy and I feel like I'm repeating myself over and over and over again.
[SPEAKER_00]: Every single guy that Breslow brought in
[SPEAKER_00]: their gamers.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, of course, we want him to show us something during the trade deadline.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a different conversation.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's put together a competitive team.
[SPEAKER_00]: He made the right decision in getting rid of Alex Corra, which I'm honest.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was wrong about that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought that would really get us to the point where we were just tanking and he pulled that card and it was the right move because under Chad Tracy, they're playing smart baseball, they're, they're bunting time and time again, moving runners into scoring position, they're playing their stealing more bases.
[SPEAKER_00]: Man, like, what else do we want?
[SPEAKER_00]: So, I'm, I'm in.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm all in with this Boston Red Sox team.
[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, I want them to, to bring in one more bat.
[SPEAKER_00]: I want them to go out there, trade prospects and bring in one more bat.
[SPEAKER_00]: But if they don't, so what?
[SPEAKER_00]: They're still dominating.
[SPEAKER_00]: They just beat the best team in major league baseball.
[SPEAKER_00]: They swept.
[SPEAKER_00]: Alley Dodgers, what else do you want?
[SPEAKER_00]: What else do you need to see to believe in this version of the Boston Resucks?
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm all in.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm all in no matter what happens tomorrow.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, you made some good points, one in the fact that, I mean, listen, we did just sweep what has become the team that is, what we all felt the late 90s Yankees were, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Because I think growing up as Red Sox fans, and even any MLB fan, or even as a Yankee fan, people would say, like, oh, the Yankees always get the star.
[SPEAKER_02]: And like, it very much felt that way, but I've never seen anything this in professional sports.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're literally the Dodgers.
[SPEAKER_02]: They literally get every star.
[SPEAKER_02]: They get the 1a, the 1b, the 1c, and then all the twos.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then every other team is left with the threes at best.
[SPEAKER_02]: To answer your question of what do I want, I want to go to the world series.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, what do I think it's going to take to get there?
[SPEAKER_02]: Could this team do it?
[SPEAKER_02]: It would be hard pressed to say that it's impossible.
[SPEAKER_02]: They just literally swept the best team and baseball the two-time defending champs in pretty convincing fashion.
[SPEAKER_02]: They outscored them, 20 to 10.
[SPEAKER_02]: Granted, this wasn't the best version of the LA Dodgers.
[SPEAKER_02]: And we will get to the LA Dodgers bolstering themselves and adding additional help for their flyoff run a little bit later.
[SPEAKER_02]: However, with the Boston Red Sox, I mean,
[SPEAKER_02]: It's hard to complain.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, you said it best like, I'm at a point now where I know Craig Brazil isn't going anywhere.
[SPEAKER_02]: So there's no sense in even talking about getting rid of him.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's not going anywhere.
[SPEAKER_02]: He deserves a ton of credit.
[SPEAKER_02]: Every button that he is pushed and or pulled with levers has worked for the most part with the exception of things that have happened at the deadline, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Specifically the trade deadline in season.
[SPEAKER_02]: In the offseason, he has made moves that have
[SPEAKER_02]: the boss and red socks, whether it be Garrett Prochet last year, Sunny Gray, despite most of us being skeptical of that move, but it's hard to argue with what he's done.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he's pulled the right levers and getting rid of Korra, which I was in favor for.
[SPEAKER_02]: not expect this from Chad Tracy.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was just happy to see Alex Corgo because to me that letting go of the guy who represented a time of Red Sox baseball that was you know for the majority of his tenure losing baseball right with the exception of a team that I could have managed the world series.
[SPEAKER_02]: he's making the right moves, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's what it is, give him his flowers for that.
[SPEAKER_02]: However, I think Matt kind of already hinted at it, there is still a big test of past as far as what he could potentially do in cementing himself as a viable option long term, as the vice president of baseball operations.
[SPEAKER_02]: If I'm judging him like any other general manager,
[SPEAKER_02]: in Major League Baseball.
[SPEAKER_02]: That one that we just have to keep because the team doesn't want to spend money, which is really how I think we've looked at Craig Reso, fairly or unfairly.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, when I look at this series, I mean, you want to talk about just completely flipping the Red Sox season over on its head, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's despite the winning streak.
[SPEAKER_02]: their situational hitting completely different than the team we saw in the beginning of the season.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're pitching his been their strength, but they have situationality in games, even in the midst of their wedding streak or even prior when it was strong, given up leads, their bullpens looked shaky, was pretty much nails throughout this whole series.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, just completely shutting down a Dodgers offense that is better than most in Major League Baseball.
[SPEAKER_02]: and then the power.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, let's face it.
[SPEAKER_02]: The Red Sox won this series with power.
[SPEAKER_02]: Raphaelot went off like a man that was possessed in a good way.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he looked like what would be an ALNVP candidate in this series alone.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now do I think he is?
[SPEAKER_02]: No, but he sure looked like one and he's certainly proving that he likes the big moment.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now the test for him is gonna do it in October because he started to show that last year and then when it came to October,
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's hope that that changes going into this post-season if we are there because it is still early.
[SPEAKER_02]: But how you could not be impressed with this team that just swept the two-time, you know, two-and-a-row world series champs, three out of the last five, you'd be hard-pressed.
[SPEAKER_02]: You'd almost have to be a Red Sox Hater at this point.
[SPEAKER_02]: I agree with you one.
[SPEAKER_02]: So let's just get into it because this is what everyone wants to talk about.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, we've got a trade deadline that is less than 24 hours away that is extremely meaningful to Boston Red Sox.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not because the Los Angeles Dodgers is went out there and got to reach school.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because the truth is, if you're playing the Dodgers, it means you're in the world series.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that would be a win for the Boston Red Sox, especially with the way that this season started.
[SPEAKER_02]: But let's get down to business because the AL has completely cemented itself to who's the buyers and who are the sellers.
[SPEAKER_02]: Teams that we thought were going to be in this like the tigers, like the mariners, have completely just said we're going to sell.
[SPEAKER_02]: They are not going the hard in on the postseason for this year.
[SPEAKER_02]: And if they do, it's going to be because the AL is just future, okay?
[SPEAKER_02]: But teams like the white socks.
[SPEAKER_02]: the Yankees and the race who we already kind of expected to be formidable opponents in the postseason have made themselves better.
[SPEAKER_02]: We've got the Yankees going out there and getting a Louise Garcia Jr in a trade that makes me sick to my stomach, not because they got him because what they got him for?
[SPEAKER_02]: So we talk about the trade deadline for the Boston Red Sox number one, what do you general in expect and how are you feeling based on the other trades that other
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, real quick before I get into that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just want to touch upon the series one more time because you hit on sit on the iceman is so cold right now he's playing out of his mind and the sweep is impressive, but yesterday's game was incredible you're going against Yamamoto.
[SPEAKER_01]: He absolutely dealt last year.
[SPEAKER_01]: I believe he was the world series MVP too.
[SPEAKER_01]: So one of the best pitchers in the game, one of the best big game pitchers in the game, we don't have wills contraris or best bopper.
[SPEAKER_01]: And this guy sit on Rafael, it just comes in.
[SPEAKER_01]: We had until that two that,
[SPEAKER_01]: double by Monasterio in the eighth inning.
[SPEAKER_01]: We only had two hits the whole game.
[SPEAKER_01]: Fortunately, they had to be happened to be two bombs by Raphaella, kept us in the game.
[SPEAKER_01]: Then, you know, we get that late double.
[SPEAKER_01]: We get a button down.
[SPEAKER_01]: We scored a run on a double play for crying out loud.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we win the game three to two.
[SPEAKER_01]: And also, Toli was,
[SPEAKER_01]: battling out there.
[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't have his best stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: He had to give seven hits and two walks or something.
[SPEAKER_01]: He was pitching with trouble with base runners.
[SPEAKER_01]: But man, this team just has so much grit, so much fight.
[SPEAKER_01]: They lead the league in Hutspa.
[SPEAKER_01]: I tweeted earlier.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's been a blast to watch.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just had a touch upon sit on.
[SPEAKER_01]: He has been playing out of his mind.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think my favorite part about his breakout season this year.
[SPEAKER_01]: We've seen some flashes of it before, but he's finally helping me forget about our old friend mookie bets.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not ready to forgive the organization just yet for it, but seeing him come out and shine and just play with the way he's been playing.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm finally starting to just forget about it because now we have a guy that is, you know, a fly tool guy the same way that mookie was, you know, not completely comparable to mookie, but you start to see that superstar ceiling.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, on to the trade deadline because I mentioned before Craig, I want to have your back.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're from Connecticut.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm from Connecticut.
[SPEAKER_01]: I want you to be my boy, man.
[SPEAKER_01]: But your offseason moves are paying off.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was on board with you fire and Corra, but Chris, just like you, I didn't expect this from Chad Tracy.
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't expect this kind of turnaround or this type of success, but I was a fan of that move.
[SPEAKER_01]: You have one more thing to do, Craig.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's to bring
[SPEAKER_01]: the way we've been playing right now without our top players we've been battling through injuries that's an ode to the 26 man roster the 40 man roster that you've put together.
[SPEAKER_01]: The depth in this organization is paying off.
[SPEAKER_01]: Kudos to you for that.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I am not going to forget about the way that I felt one year ago today or tomorrow whatever the trade deadline was a year ago where I was waiting and waiting like a
[SPEAKER_01]: And we ended up with dust in May and Steven mats and I don't even hate the Steven mats move honestly it was it was a nice piece, but you left us hanging okay we needed more and to be honest I wanted to punch you right in the mouth with the way that deadline ended we cannot afford to do that this year you said it before Chris other teams are making moves now the raise got better
[SPEAKER_01]: the Yankees got better and the white socks got better too.
[SPEAKER_01]: Kudos to them for going out for a starting pitcher.
[SPEAKER_01]: I like them striking while the iron's hot.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the most frustrating part about the Yankees trade, for example, it definitely shows that we overpaid for me.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think they got a better player in Garcia for a lot less than what we gave up to get me.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm not going to hold Craig accountable or blame him for the injury.
[SPEAKER_01]: but I I said it then it was an overpay I was okay with it considering me did fill a need but man after seeing what the Yankees just got from the nationals and I know there's a little less of control years of control but at this point another three years of Curtis me doesn't mean anything to a guy with 22 career home runs right now so I just think that the Yankees once again cashmen proves that he is
[SPEAKER_01]: you know, more experienced GM and Craig, this is the final test.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is the final boss.
[SPEAKER_01]: You need to bring into some pieces some pieces.
[SPEAKER_01]: The whole year I've been saying a short stop, of course, right-handed bat obviously makes sense despite us being the best team in the American League against left-handed pitching, believe it or not.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I actually think we need a bat and an arm.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was always about relief pitching.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now the way that the season has been transforming or developing in front of our eyes, I'm leaning towards a starting pitcher.
[SPEAKER_01]: I really think we need to starting pitcher.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's some decent arms still on the market for all to move today.
[SPEAKER_01]: Kestia moved yesterday.
[SPEAKER_01]: Guys, I didn't love, but you're starting to see a market for what those starting pitchers can be.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mentioned on the last show, maybe Waka.
[SPEAKER_01]: I do like a guy like Clay Holmes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Naturally, the same last name is me, of course, who wouldn't want that.
[SPEAKER_01]: He has some experience in the A.L.E.
[SPEAKER_01]: But with, I've seen in the chat to, I'm glad that they called it out.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've heard Hauk is a throwing bullpen.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oviato may come back.
[SPEAKER_01]: I see those guys as more bullpen help to shore up the bullpen, which is already the best bullpen in the game, but we can't have enough arms coming out of the bullpen, in my opinion.
[SPEAKER_01]: But with the workload restrictions that I anticipate coming with, with Toli,
[SPEAKER_01]: And Bennet, now we don't have early, Ranger Swarr has been great when he's pitched, but you know, a couple of stints on the IL, so I can't really count on him being healthy the rest of the way, or giving you significant amount of innings rest of the way.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I think we still need a bat.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm still standing behind that if it's a catcher, if it's a short stop, if it's a left fielder to replace the ran.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't mind, there's a lot of places that they can get creative and fill this, but I really do think we need a starter, despite how good our pitching has been.
[SPEAKER_01]: two moves or one move that brings back two pieces that can help our majorly club through the dog days.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not a knock on the team and how they've been playing right now.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just have concerns from, you know, what happened last year, what happened near before, which was, what was the stat?
[SPEAKER_01]: I think we've all seen it the last four years.
[SPEAKER_01]: The team was 57 and 51 after 100 and eight games, math off the top of my head, which is ridiculous to have that type of
[SPEAKER_01]: Same record after that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Same amount of games four years in a row, but every year with the exception of last year They ran out of gas in August in September and it wasn't good enough to get the job done We all want a deep playoff run.
[SPEAKER_01]: We've proven that we can compete with the best teams in the league with the best teams in both leagues So go out there and get it done.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're gonna have to overpay, but it is what it is
[SPEAKER_00]: Those are great points on their needs to go out there and get a starting pitcher because as we've seen, they've lost several guys.
[SPEAKER_00]: You mentioned that the innings limits to totally, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: He's coming up to that innings limit.
[SPEAKER_00]: What are they going to do with him?
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's a great point.
[SPEAKER_00]: However, they have bigger needs.
[SPEAKER_00]: And those needs are either a short stop or a catcher.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now to that point.
[SPEAKER_00]: they kind of set themselves up.
[SPEAKER_00]: And by the, I mean, Craig Breslow with that, um, Connolly early trade.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because now, they're going to ask for the world.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you want to go out there and get like a Zack NATO, you've seen the reports already, they're asking for Franklin Aries.
[SPEAKER_00]: If there's no Franklin Arias in the deal, they're not going to go for it, but that's because of that early deal.
[SPEAKER_00]: So now if you're going to want to get a short stop, and in my opinion, Arias, not Arias, NATO is the least talented out of the group of guys that I want the Boston rest socks to go out there and get.
[SPEAKER_00]: So unless they're willing to get rid of areas, I don't think they'll be able to get the shortstop that they need.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's why I think they should pivot to the catcher because I think that if they're going to go and try to convince Colorado to let go of their guy, I don't necessarily think that they'll need to get rid of areas or treat areas to Colorado in order to get them
[SPEAKER_00]: We're not getting any offensive contribution for neither of those guys.
[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, they do a really good job at controlling the pitchers.
[SPEAKER_00]: But we need more.
[SPEAKER_00]: This offense needs more.
[SPEAKER_00]: And if you can't get a short stop because you set yourself up, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: To not be able to get one because of what you did with early.
[SPEAKER_00]: Then go out there and try to get a catcher.
[SPEAKER_00]: The next thing that they can do, I don't know if this is pushing it, but don't trade for a catcher.
[SPEAKER_00]: Just bring up barriers at this point.
[SPEAKER_00]: Bring them up, see what he can do with chat tracing.
[SPEAKER_00]: When I talk about how to score it here, we're talking about chat tracing, who's shown an ability to really get into the minds of these players and really motivate these players.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I really do hope.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm begging that we don't give up areas for a NATO.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think that that's what they should do.
[SPEAKER_00]: Go out there and get a catcher.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you can't convince, I don't know, Cincinnati, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: They were already in talks with Cincinnati.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll for Delacruz and they kind of just shut them down.
[SPEAKER_00]: If the royals are going to shut you down for Bobby with, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: You go to the royals and say, well, hey, maybe we can, we'll trade you areas for Bobby with and some other prospects.
[SPEAKER_00]: If they shut you down, I really do think the next move here is to just go for a catcher, bring up areas and see what you can get from him.
[SPEAKER_00]: Either way, like I said before, I'm not going to be too critical of chat Tracy.
[SPEAKER_00]: I would not chat Tracy of Craig Brezlo.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know that you guys are kind of waiting for this next move to see if you're going to buy in on Craig Brezlo.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm bought in.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is just icing on the cake.
[SPEAKER_00]: They've got the...
[SPEAKER_00]: what do you want to call it?
[SPEAKER_00]: They're they're working together.
[SPEAKER_00]: They've been each other.
[SPEAKER_00]: They've got the swagger.
[SPEAKER_00]: Chad Tracy has instilled confidence into this team.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to believe in whatever they do by the end of tomorrow is just icing on the cake in my opinion.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I want to just start with it.
[SPEAKER_02]: If the Dodgers called the Royals tomorrow for Bobby with they could trade me one and that and probably get that treat done in Tiss off the baseball world.
[SPEAKER_02]: a little more than they already have, but in all seriousness, I don't disagree with you, and it's not that I'm not bought on this time.
[SPEAKER_02]: I am bought on this team.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is the grittiest Red Sox team since 2013, the difference is 2013 had a plethora of players that were either a little bit past their prime, but had the pedigree of world championships with other organizations collectively as a unit, the experience to get it done if all went well and it did.
[SPEAKER_02]: This team doesn't and is still to this point finding a way, and I very much appreciate that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that Craig's finger print or thumb print is on that, and some sort of capacity and deserves all the credit in the world.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, if I'm looking at this team and of vacuum,
[SPEAKER_02]: And I just look at the importance of position and impact.
[SPEAKER_02]: I then shortstop is the greatest need, but for this team, I think catcher is the greatest need, because I think we have options at shortstop, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Collectively between Monasterio, Seagler, so guard in the infield, you have guys that could step in, and don't let story come back, please.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just want to get that out of the way.
[SPEAKER_02]: But even if he does, collectively, you have a unit that can make you defensively,
[SPEAKER_02]: and can provide some sort of offense in a lower line-up role, right, where is a catcher?
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, can Connor Wong get it done offensively?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and short spurts in the playoffs, long term.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think so in Derviah's.
[SPEAKER_02]: I am so out on him.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's lazy defensively to a point where if the Red Sox bats weren't up tonight, that could have cost us this game tonight.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's cost us series in games in the past, and his bad is nothing at this point.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm done with Narvayas, let him be a platoon guy, ship them off, whatever.
[SPEAKER_02]: For that reason, I'm all over trying to get like a goodman, right, to come in and play catcher for the Boston Red Sox.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't think it's going to take an arraise in that trade to get him.
[SPEAKER_02]: And if you're going to go after a short stop, I agree with you.
[SPEAKER_02]: I am not trading in Narvaya.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry, arraias for a needle.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just not happening for a daily cruise or a CJ Abrams, 100%.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm all in on it between the control, the age, there are subant charts.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm cool with it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Zack Neato absolutely not.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let the angels continue to suck.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is why they suck.
[SPEAKER_02]: they don't know how to park with talent, they try to get the world and they can sit in that you know constant turmoil, bull crap, and that's fine.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then as far as pitching, I'm all over a guy like Waka, even maybe putting in a phone call for an Ev Aldi, right, if the Rangers, you know, there was rumors that the series that they played this weekend was going to determine if they were going to be buyers or sellers they lost.
[SPEAKER_02]: So if they really truly are sellers, make a phone call on Ev Aldi, we know we can pitch in Boston.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's proven he can get it done in October.
[SPEAKER_02]: Is he as good as he used to be?
[SPEAKER_02]: No, but I'm looking for a fourth or fifth starter anyway, um, if you're bringing in someone and a Michael Walker also pitched while I'm Boston granted, it wasn't in the middle of a postseason run, but nonetheless, I'm fine with the Michael Walker, so those if there's guys that we're looking for for me, it's good men, it's a deal of crews or the lead teams like it's also more realistically a CJ Abrams or a Waka slash of all of these as far as pitching.
[SPEAKER_02]: Here's where I think the trouble is, okay?
[SPEAKER_02]: the red socks and this is where I give Craig a little bit of credit.
[SPEAKER_02]: He tried to set the market price when he went out there and made that trade for from me to whether you thought it was an overpay or fair based on whatever.
[SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't matter.
[SPEAKER_02]: It happened in reflection.
[SPEAKER_02]: It looks like it may have been an overpay especially with the fact that we're not going to probably see him for either all this year or until like the wee moments of this year where you're going to have to question what he can truly contribute especially in the middle of a potential postseason run.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: But now, the teams that you are going up against have gone out there and put their stakes in.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right?
[SPEAKER_02]: The Yankees traded almost nothing to get Luis Garcia Jr.
[SPEAKER_02]: The race traded for Paralta.
[SPEAKER_02]: The whitesawks traded for Castillo.
[SPEAKER_02]: And at this point, every other GM is going to know if the red socks any move they make is going to be in reaction to those trades, which makes them number one desperate.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the fact that basically the only other move that they made, the guy gets hurt, it a position of need that we admitted, only exponentially increases the fact that there's a level of desperation by the Boston Red Sox.
[SPEAKER_02]: Admittedly so by all of us, and hopefully by Craig.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to take some overpay.
[SPEAKER_02]: The question is, how much and what are you willing to do?
[SPEAKER_02]: And there's a balance here because I think there's a lot of red socks fans that are just like, I don't care overpay, Craig proved to me something.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I read to a certain point, but I also don't want to be stupid because I've already on the fence where I think we've overpaid for me.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're not going to get anything out of him.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, the jury's out on it was a good trade
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, but at the end of the day, I don't want to give away a prospect like a rise, and I'm all four trading prospects, but it's for the right players.
[SPEAKER_02]: And to me is Zach needo or lesser player.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_02]: It can't happen.
[SPEAKER_02]: To me, go out there, I'd rather trade for a catcher, and then like I said, you have options including to your point one, a bias might be an option.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe he comes up later, and that just adds to the infield depth that we already have at a position of strength for the Boston Red Sex which we have not had in a long time, in field with that's a position of strength for this organization.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, I don't know what we're gonna do.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm trying that to get my hopes too much up because this is really where Craig has proven that he's not the most capable.
[SPEAKER_02]: But you know what, this season's been shocking, pleasantly surprising, maybe tomorrow ends up being the same thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think a smart fan, if you're smart, you're not getting your expectations set too high because you're setting yourself up for most likely being very let down.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, look, they've been a great team the last six weeks.
[SPEAKER_01]: They've been an unbelievable team the last six weeks.
[SPEAKER_01]: But for the first three months of the season, they were a terrible team.
[SPEAKER_01]: So in my opinion, that makes them a good team and I'm happy that they're a good team.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm happy that we're sitting comfortably in the second wildcards.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't have as much beef with Craig as I did a month ago, two months ago, three months ago.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: But we do need to make some moves.
[SPEAKER_01]: I like Goodman.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's a good fit.
[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, right handed power.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not super high on moving areas unless it's going to be for a true needle mover MVP.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think what is on the table.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sounds like LED the cruise is not on the table, but if those guys were package up RAS and send them first class, let's bring in some all stars and let's get this thing Rockin' and Rollin' I'm with you guys, huh?
[SPEAKER_01]: Norvias is
[SPEAKER_01]: just terrible.
[SPEAKER_01]: I, his defense is bad.
[SPEAKER_01]: It costs us a run tonight, which fortunately didn't cost us the game.
[SPEAKER_01]: Chris, we chatted about it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he had a major impact in that missing of the 16th consecutive win a few weeks ago versus the Orioles.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think they were marked as wild pitches, but if you go back and watch it, it's lazy defense.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know they're teaching these catchers to
[SPEAKER_01]: catch on one knee.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's not how I was taught growing up.
[SPEAKER_01]: You got to drop in block.
[SPEAKER_01]: You have to be ready for being in a throwing position.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't care if that's how the league is teaching you.
[SPEAKER_01]: We've seen it time and time again.
[SPEAKER_01]: Pass balls with runners on third because the catchers down on one knee and they're not in a position to drop in block.
[SPEAKER_01]: So balls are getting by and we saw it tonight.
[SPEAKER_01]: Two balls, two runners score for us.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a situation when the Dodgers can do it because they have their third string catcher in.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, I'm okay with Wong, he doesn't, you know, wow me at any, but I think he's been playing just fine.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I actually think the backup or a second catcher is highly underrated.
[SPEAKER_01]: We've seen it in the past, in recent, I guess it's not that recent in 2013, but David Ross was our backup catcher.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he was our stud guy in 2013.
[SPEAKER_01]: I believe Jared Saltalamaki, it was our key starting catcher.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he was the reason we lost a blender.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and one of those world series games because of his defense ability.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm all in on bringing a backup catcher in, um, I don't know if I move areas for goodman, but one of my favorite things about goodman is not only his pop, but the rep on a lot of these rocky players is they only bought because they hit in Colorado and the ball flies there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I've got his baseball chart up in
[SPEAKER_01]: He's got almost 100 points higher, OPS on the road than in Colorado.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that tells me he would be just fine at Fenway.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to hit bombs.
[SPEAKER_01]: I probably see him more as a DH with games caught for us, but I'm all foreshoring up that position.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I just, I said it before, I'll say it again.
[SPEAKER_01]: I hope we're not counting on story.
[SPEAKER_01]: to be the answer at short.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've seen some reports saying that that's what they're thinking are hoping, but also we've seen a ton of reports on their interest in this guy.
[SPEAKER_01]: They've had discussions in this guy and we've already seen some, well, they had discussions with the reds on LED LaCruise, but couldn't get a deal done.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm expecting some more of those over these next 20, 20, or 4, or so hours.
[SPEAKER_01]: And look, I'll be pleasantly surprised if they make a move.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm still going to be
[SPEAKER_01]: I think the team has proven obviously that they can beat good teams, but we still have a ways to go.
[SPEAKER_01]: We got about 60 games left to go, give or take, and look, the dog days, they call them the dog days for a reason.
[SPEAKER_01]: We got a bunch of dogs on the team, but you know, just bring up Neto, for example, too.
[SPEAKER_01]: You touch on Neto.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think my first show, I brought up Neto because I thought he would be a good fit, and that was several months back.
[SPEAKER_01]: I still like the player.
[SPEAKER_01]: But, man, the angels are on something to think that the asking price for him is similar to an Ellie Delacruz or a Bobby Wood Jr.
[SPEAKER_01]: I like the players at NETO.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is nothing against you, but you got a lot of zeros in the areas that I want to bring back, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm talking zero all star games.
[SPEAKER_01]: zero gold gloves, zero silver sluggers, and I guess it's not your fault that you have zero hits in the playoffs because you play for the angels, but I don't want anybody with zero hits, zero played on play appearances, I'm okay with I said it before and I still don't think Craig's gonna bring back a multi-time all-star
[SPEAKER_01]: And I say that specifically because there's guys that have one have made one all start game or getting as a reserve so if I say he's not going to get an all star and he brings in a guy that barely made the all start team three years ago then, you know, I'm wrong about everything so I don't think it's going to be a true certified multi time all star, but I'll settle for a guy who is proven to do it in October.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's why I've always like pain.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't think the Astros are selling their
[SPEAKER_01]: not only in it for the wild car, but they're still in it for their division, but I say, Peña, because he fits the profile of the team.
[SPEAKER_01]: He has a stud defensively, he's got gold gloves and by the way, he has a world series ring and he played well in October.
[SPEAKER_01]: We don't have, as good as this team has been, we don't have a lot of experience in October as far as batters wise at least.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I guess pitching wise too.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I want some guys that have proven that they can do it on the biggest stage because look, these guys have been doing a great.
[SPEAKER_01]: So Garth had a great game tonight.
[SPEAKER_01]: Seagua gave you some hot hits.
[SPEAKER_01]: Monasterio offensive has been great defensively does not sit fit right in with the run prevention unit that we've seen and I just I need guys that have been proven Performers in October to really give me confidence that if and when I do think they're going to make the playoffs at this point, but you know we were not too far we we were 13 and three since the all star break, but not too long ago we got one hit shut out by Dillon sees at home at Fenway Park okay
[SPEAKER_01]: Dylan C's won't be in the playoffs because the Blue J stink, but we're going to see pictures of Dylan C's caliber in the playoffs.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't want to go into these playoffs with, you know, the roster or the offensive lineup that we've been putting out there that scrapes together, three runs that beats Dodgers, which was awesome.
[SPEAKER_01]: But man, when the lights are burning shining the brightest, when the weather's cold in October, in Fenway or wherever we're playing, hopefully we get some home games this offseason.
[SPEAKER_01]: Pocies and I should say I just need to have the confidence that there's some guys that have gotten it done because I think that's going to elevate the play of the guys who haven't gotten it done yet or haven't had a chance to get it done So Craig just bring us in some October performers and and let's go get this job done.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's go let's go make a run for the penit because the American League is well within reach the way the league is shaken out.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's not an knock.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm all in.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just need to see a little more
[SPEAKER_00]: And there will be pressure on Craig Breslow, because the Yankees, for example, are in Stainpat.
[SPEAKER_00]: They got Garcia based on the reports that they're in conversation for freshmen from the Oreos.
[SPEAKER_00]: So are they going to upgrade at the catcher precision, as well?
[SPEAKER_00]: So their team is going to be better.
[SPEAKER_00]: So despite what they've done in the month of July and sweeping the Dodgers, they have to do something else.
[SPEAKER_00]: It has to be something, I don't think it's going to be as big as what we want it to be because again, they kind of set themselves up with that trade with early, but they have to do something.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I do think that the catcher position here is where they won't have to give up as much with the options that are out there for the short stops.
[SPEAKER_00]: try to get a catcher, try to go out there, I'm going to get good men if you know you don't need to give up areas see if you can give up other prospects any of your other top prospects and I don't know offer it to Ryan hey he's hot
[SPEAKER_00]: after tonight.
[SPEAKER_00]: Come on.
[SPEAKER_00]: Offer up throughout and see if they if they bite, bullpen, bail is an option as well.
[SPEAKER_00]: Try to pitch that to them and see if they agree.
[SPEAKER_00]: George Springer is another guy that's out there that has been rumored and linked to the Boston Red Sox as well.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's a performer.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's a vet.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know he's on the, you know, on the latter part of his career, but you put him in Fenway and that's always been my thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: How can they perform at Fenway?
[SPEAKER_00]: Does that swing work well at Fenway?
[SPEAKER_00]: Contreras is one of the prime examples of what happens when you come and you play for this team when you play most of your games at Fenway Park.
[SPEAKER_00]: George Bringers is another option as well.
[SPEAKER_00]: So let's give him, he's next what?
[SPEAKER_00]: Has less than 24 hours to make a move.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's see what they do.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's not swing for the fences here.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's be realistic with what this Boston Red Sox team can get, but I do hope that Bristol can bring in at least one right handed bat or, you know, a bat up to be able to help this offense.
[SPEAKER_00]: I trust that the pitching no matter what happens with the pitching, whether it's an injury, I trust that they can figure it out because they've done that all season.
[SPEAKER_00]: Get me a bat.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, if it's not a shortstop that accrues paying if Astros want to come back or wait, go out there and get a catcher and let's let's go for this AO penit.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's right there for us.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm glad you touched him on springer one because yeah, he checked all those boxes that I just mentioned former world series MVP performs in October, performed last October for the Blue Jays was a big part of their playoff run there.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a rental, so he shouldn't cost that much.
[SPEAKER_01]: I believe this is the last year of his contract So a few months later, I know he's lost his debt defensively and with his speed But historically he absolutely matches that Fenway and you forgot the most important stat one He's also from Connecticut, so you know he's gonna perform well when he comes to Fenway
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but yeah, I would take springer as well, especially if I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm mixed emotions about Duran.
[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, I came on the last show on Thursday, fresh off of the Zantix with Wilson, and I said, you know, kick rocks Duran, get off my team.
[SPEAKER_01]: But honestly, Tracy lied to our faces afterwards, rightfully so like a good manager does.
[SPEAKER_01]: Wilson did the same, but all the reports from the clubhouse kind of seemed like they love the guy and guess what they let him play and he was an him he had some impact at bats for us Hit a home run tonight played well against the Dodgers, so you know what I'm I'm fine with him being on the roster, but if we find a way to bring in George springer as well, I think that does add for the roster
[SPEAKER_01]: I see a comment, yep, absolutely going to be a date spot, especially if the ran is still on the team, but if feels like catcher is the most attainable position, which we definitely need to upgrade, but it just feels like it's the most attainable position out there considering the asking prices for some of the short sets that are available.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know Matt.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you did break the whole spring into the red socks before that even became a thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'll give you credit.
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you being modest.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, but I can make a argument that that might be the most realistic because like you said, the blue jays are going nowhere.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's on the expiring contract.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, if I'm correct.
[SPEAKER_02]: And even if they got a Doran in like a small little piece, like there's more control there, it's much more cost friendly to the Bluegees, because it kind of gives in the ability to potentially reset financially and still bring something back, um, I'm which a lost year.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I don't know, there might be some smoke to that.
[SPEAKER_02]: But you mentioned the home run and you know what's interesting and I'm not trying to spin this is like, oh, this is kind of like a trade deadline.
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you even know what it is and like we do every, you know, midseason trade deadline with the Boston Redstock, but quietly.
[SPEAKER_02]: What I think is proven now at this point from that sample size is that with the way that the red side to play baseball now, this mixture of small ball and timely hitting and power when you need it, he's kind of fit into this line quite perfectly.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think almost to what the red socks expected when they got him.
[SPEAKER_02]: Am I saying he's going to make this huge difference to the world?
[SPEAKER_02]: No.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I also think the 23 games is a pretty large enough sample size to say that he's had enough of a high level of contribution to this team in a positive manner that you could quite get something out of that not to mention when you look at this lineup he also
[SPEAKER_02]: was the most reliable hitter for the Boston Red Talks.
[SPEAKER_02]: Matt and I were talking about this before in the postseason.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, if you take away Masataki Oshida at bats in the last postseason against the New York Yankees, we get swept.
[SPEAKER_02]: Never mind, potentially we should have won that series until on the back of Yoshida.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, I'm going to be getting to a preview next series.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think we're all in agreement.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're playing the White Sox at home, big series against the White Sox in Fenway.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to take two or three.
[SPEAKER_02]: I would imagine, I guess, some of you are going to say a sweep or two or three to shake your head.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to get past it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to leave you with this burning question.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the viewers with this.
[SPEAKER_02]: Gun near your head.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you had to trade, Franklin or Ias.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're Roman Anthony, insert the name of the player I don't care who it is, but that's basically what's getting the deal done.
[SPEAKER_02]: Arias, we're Anthony, which one is it and why?
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll go first one.
[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't matter who we're bringing back Chris, we're going to bring back an impact player from one of them or just we're giving them.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: So understanding that we're bringing back an impact player, not knowing the position that it's going to be.
[SPEAKER_01]: Gosh, that is a tough one.
[SPEAKER_01]: I will go with, mask, trade and Roman.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't love what I've seen.
[SPEAKER_01]: He was supposed to be the next guy.
[SPEAKER_01]: He was the number one prospect in baseball.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'd like, I wanna see what he comes back when he comes back.
[SPEAKER_01]: It seems like drive line is out of the organization.
[SPEAKER_01]: I wanna see a no-drive line Roman Anthony.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know Arias has never stepped foot on a major league ball field or seen a major league pitch just yet.
[SPEAKER_01]: But he seems to,
[SPEAKER_01]: fill a need in the future that we're still going to need that middle in field, whereas I feel like Alfielders kind of a diamond does in, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: If you if you've played trade Roman Anthony, you can bring in a corner outfielder short-term deal, whatever long-term deal you can find corner outfielders out there, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think you can find stud middle in fielders the way that he has
[SPEAKER_01]: increased his power numbers in particular at such a young age.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just very intrigued by what he can do.
[SPEAKER_01]: The gloves seem solid from what I've seen.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't follow these prospects super close to be honest.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a big, big guy.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't care.
[SPEAKER_01]: Turn about the prospects.
[SPEAKER_01]: Gun to my head.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm training training Roman Anthony because I worry that we're stuck with a really tough contract there.
[SPEAKER_01]: At least with areas if he doesn't perform we're not locked in with the money now with Roman We're gonna have pressure to pray to play him even if he's not good We've seen it with story.
[SPEAKER_01]: We've seen it with Yoshida.
[SPEAKER_01]: We've seen it in the past with other bad deals that were stuck with And I feel like if Roman Anthony doesn't perform not only can we not trade him in the future because he's not performing at the major level of course
[SPEAKER_01]: but then we're stuck with that contract and forced to play him because we have locked them into that contract.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I know that he has more experience in the big leagues and probably wasn't more highly touted prospect, but if you're starting the conversation with former top prospect, I don't care who the player is coming out to that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't really want to hear the rest of what you have to say if your sentence starts with former top prospect.
[SPEAKER_01]: So gun to my head, goodbye Roman Anthony,
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm keeping areas as well.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think this injury with Roman Anthony scares me.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you look at the fact that he was only supposed to be out for what?
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe a week or two.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's rolled out all the way up to August.
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe that speaks a little bit about the type of person that he is, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: He's not necessarily fighting through this or trying his best to get back onto this majorly
[SPEAKER_00]: But even I remember talking back maybe in the month of May right before he got injured like he wasn't necessarily performing to the level that we were expecting from our number one guy our our Lord and Savior Roman Anthony like he wasn't performing up to that level.
[SPEAKER_00]: So you know outside of a short stint last season right where you know he had some big home runs especially against the Yankees.
[SPEAKER_00]: Roman Anthony didn't really do want anything else.
[SPEAKER_00]: He didn't prove anything else.
[SPEAKER_00]: At least with Arias, he, he's in a very important position for the Boston Red Sox.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's a right-handed batter.
[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, I keep talking about Van Weepark and that green monster, a guy that may be going into the future can, can take advantage of that green monster.
[SPEAKER_00]: Arias is that guy.
[SPEAKER_00]: If I had an option, I think I'd treat Anthony and you talked about that contract as well.
[SPEAKER_00]: They've already given him that contract, you know, looking at what happens after the 20, 27 season, that may be something that other teams may want to look into and it may want to bring into their team, see what you can get for him.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think areas you have to keep him unless you're going to go out there and treat them for a Bobby Wood Jr or someone like that.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a very important position.
[SPEAKER_00]: Trevor Story is not a part of your future.
[SPEAKER_00]: Marcello Meyer is not a part of your future.
[SPEAKER_00]: Either you need someone there going into the future and areas is that guy unless you're using him as the main piece to get a Bobby with you in your which I don't think they're gonna do.
[SPEAKER_00]: Roman Anthony is the guy you have to dream.
[SPEAKER_01]: Plus we have sedan locked up in center field and he's not going anywhere.
[SPEAKER_01]: I like what I've been seeing out of a braille and right field.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that leaves you a short of one corner outfield there for the foreseeable future.
[SPEAKER_01]: And like I said, you can you can pick those up off the scrap heap.
[SPEAKER_01]: No problem.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I just want to start off with Lord forgive one for calling Roman Anthony or Lord and Savior.
[SPEAKER_02]: He is not.
[SPEAKER_02]: But nonetheless, I think, listen, you guys, that's at least what, many rest dogs.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I know, I'm kidding with you.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what, no, that's a truth.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what Red Sox fans, how they touted Roman Anthony for this organization.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the reality is what, I mean, we touched on it, the contract.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, let's face it too.
[SPEAKER_02]: He didn't have the power at the major league level that we expected and that we were sold on.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's one thing that we didn't really talk about.
[SPEAKER_02]: Two attitude.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's some questionable character regarding his attitude.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that could be stemming from him hanging out with Marcelo Meyer, who seems to be in that same camp.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I won't pin it all on him, but nonetheless, you got the contract.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now you're didn't.
[SPEAKER_02]: So like act like a big league or you haven't.
[SPEAKER_02]: And for the biggest reason that no one's talked about, the dude's got a noodle arm.
[SPEAKER_02]: That scares the crap at me when he was healthy, even at his desk, and even when he was breaking singles all over Fenway Park, as I call the singles merchant, the dude has a noodle arm.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was a nine hopper to home plate every time he tried to gun someone down at the plate.
[SPEAKER_02]: The reality is the Boston Red Sox.
[SPEAKER_02]: They have a little bit of a log jam situation in the outfield and you can argue in the infield.
[SPEAKER_02]: The difference is,
[SPEAKER_02]: There's more major league talent, log jam at the outfield position, where is the infield?
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's be honest, right now, taking a rise out of this.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, we're kind of just putting it together with a bunch of guys that you didn't expect much of.
[SPEAKER_02]: It may work this season.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't necessarily know if you've counted on as a strategy long term.
[SPEAKER_02]: The other point is this, right now, and that you kind of said it, like, Roman Anthony, the biggest thing you could say, former major league prospect.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's not a proven major leader.
[SPEAKER_02]: Not based off of the sample size we've seen.
[SPEAKER_02]: All he provides is like an eight year contract.
[SPEAKER_02]: Is it reasonable if he rakes sure?
[SPEAKER_02]: But that's an if.
[SPEAKER_02]: The differences are RIS, you could at least sell hope.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's either hope of the future that you can come in here and be what we felt romantic and it would be offensively and defensively for this organization or to both your points.
[SPEAKER_02]: He could be somebody else's hope and you could trade him and actually get back what you would expect.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because right now you are not gonna get dollar for dollar value on Roman Anthony, you just aren't.
[SPEAKER_02]: So,
[SPEAKER_02]: If I had to pick one of them, I'm good.
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you so much, Roman.
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you for attempting to be what we thought you could be.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're not.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm willing to gamble on a rise.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he last thought, gentlemen.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just so you know, don't get your hopes up on this trade deadline tomorrow.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not trying to sound negative.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just,
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't stand the propaganda machine at work these last few weeks with all they're interested in such and such a player.
[SPEAKER_01]: They've been talking to so and so about this player reports are this reports are that look, hold your breath, become be patient.
[SPEAKER_01]: if nothing significant happens tomorrow at least you can say I was right and I didn't have my hopes up I would much rather be wrong about it Craig prove me wrong one more time one final time Craig and then we're good to go but I just don't see it happening with the with the price of some of these um
[SPEAKER_01]: asking price of some of these players and the lack of activity on top of the one move we did made was a massive overpay.
[SPEAKER_01]: We can fight all day long about it.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's proven to me to add to that Garcia trade.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was a massive overpay.
[SPEAKER_01]: So everybody become and don't be upset when Craig doesn't make a move.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just be happy if he does.
[SPEAKER_00]: Last thing for me is do not and I repeat do not let what happens between the next 20 hours So it take you away from enjoying what's happening with this Boston Red Sox team enjoy it hop on that the Boston Red Sox hype train Watch your team root for your team go out there on Twitter and tweet away about your team We're Boston Red Sox fans enjoy what's happening
[SPEAKER_00]: no matter what happens, because it's easy for us to get away from the fact that, you know, if he doesn't do anything, oh my god, I hate Craig Breslow.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's so asked, get that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Enjoy what's happening.
[SPEAKER_00]: Roof for your team, because the Boston restlocks are in it.
[SPEAKER_00]: And we have a real shot because of how bad this American league has been all season, we have a real shot to win the American league this season.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll tell you that much.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think the reality is you both made great points and regardless of what happens within the lex 24 hours or less at this trade deadline, I think what we should all be expecting and what is somewhat proven to this point is that the red Sox should be playing meaningful baseball heading hopefully into October, although it's gonna have to be as good as it's been now to get there, but we should be confident we should be excited about that
[SPEAKER_02]: There's no team that's going to get good enough in the American League to make us not have the ability to challenge them at this point.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Judge might come back.
[SPEAKER_02]: And if he does, you don't know if he's going to be the same player.
[SPEAKER_02]: And if he does, well, you know what?
[SPEAKER_02]: That's great.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's one team.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're the Boston Red Sox, we're playing well.
[SPEAKER_02]: Generationally, well, in these last 30 games,
[SPEAKER_02]: There's not many people that are on planet Earth right now still alive that have seen a red zucks team do what they've done in the last 30 games.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's be happy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's remain somewhat hopeful.