[SPEAKER_01]: All right, podgers have their first significant move of the deadline.
[SPEAKER_01]: Giant starter, Robbie Ray, heading to San Diego, although the return is significant, including two top 10 prospects from the podgerates of organizations.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we're going to react to that over the next hour here on a solo current addition of the wrap-up show.
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see if GM joins us at some point or not.
[SPEAKER_01]: with solo wrap-up show here today reacting to the trade deadline coming up in three hours.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we have a covered by the way all day long wrap-up show right now for an hour reacting to the robby Ray News, Shaffron Sliwa, 3 p.m. San Diego Sports 760 on the iHart radio app also on YouTube.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then of course tonight I've followed game one.
[SPEAKER_01]: of the Padres and the Diamondbacks, oh by the way, a critically important series obviously for both of those teams, heading into the post deadline here in 2026.
[SPEAKER_01]: The latest reporting here, as you look at the return for Robbie Wright, by the way, landing Robbie Wright is significant.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, this guy's put together a terrific year for the giants.
[SPEAKER_01]: We just saw him walk within the last week.
[SPEAKER_01]: completely deal.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's been among the most effective starters in real time.
[SPEAKER_01]: I would say over the last two months and his career numbers at Petko are terrific.
[SPEAKER_01]: Some of the best among active pitchers in the sport.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I think on his face, you're really pleased to get Ray, especially in an area of need.
[SPEAKER_01]: We said they had to add starting pitching.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's exactly what they did.
[SPEAKER_01]: And by the way, this isn't that in Rich Hill.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is adding a quality effective left-handed starter to your rotation as a rental.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, here's the interesting thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: I had tweeted out before I saw the return.
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought, well, this is interesting.
[SPEAKER_01]: The piators are taking on a good amount of salary, because Robby Ray is still owed over $8 million this year.
[SPEAKER_01]: Or right at $8, $25 million per year.
[SPEAKER_01]: One third of the season remaining, actually less than that.
[SPEAKER_01]: So about eight million is owed.
[SPEAKER_01]: But the giants are paying half of the remaining money owed to Ray, including half the one million assignment bonus, whatever that means.
[SPEAKER_01]: This according to Dennis Lennon at the athletic.
[SPEAKER_01]: So as a result, I think with the giants taking on salary, that might have caused the potteries and additional prospects or a better prospect in the deal.
[SPEAKER_01]: The return is a significant one.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you look at some of these trays that have been playing out, there haven't been like a slew of top 10 prospects moving.
[SPEAKER_01]: In some of these moves for starting pitchers, but the advisors gave up too.
[SPEAKER_01]: They could argue their system is weakened as opposed to the others across baseball, but Miguel Mendes, Abel, pitcher, and then Joe Neil Hernandez.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's the more significant of the losses potentially.
[SPEAKER_01]: for the Padres, because Hernandez is just what 17 years of age, and he's, you know, I think he's been playing what in the Dominican Summer League, or wherever he's been.
[SPEAKER_01]: 17 years of age, high ceiling, obviously a raw player, shortstop prospect,
[SPEAKER_01]: And Miguel Mendez, again, the right-hander 24 years of age is pitching right now in A-ball.
[SPEAKER_01]: He was listed the fourth best prospect in the organization.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hernandez listed as the ninth best, although I think the upside on Hernandez is significant.
[SPEAKER_01]: So another one of these H.A.
[SPEAKER_01]: Preller under the wire removes that is going to help his big league team in real time, but what's it going to mean for the future as well?
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you know how I advocate for it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm thinking more about 2026 than I am about 29 right now.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, a player like, again, Hernandez who they just gave up in this deal is some of it's clearly years away, he's 17.
[SPEAKER_01]: So even best case, I think right now at MLB.com, they have his estimated time of arrival to the big leagues, 2031, he'd be a 22 year old in 2031.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm not going to sit here and really correct over that today, although I think there are those that will to cover minorly baseball and are aware of a ceiling.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then Miguel Mendez, he's by closer to the big leagues, BCCTA at one point was listed as 2026, he's 24 years of age.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's the return.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think the bigger story, obviously, right now for Padres fans that are
[SPEAKER_01]: hoping to see this team get into the postseason and if they get there, maybe, you know, when a series or more is you're now pairing Michael King with Robbie Ray.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I think that's the most significant part of this transaction and AJ Preller recognizing what we've all recognized over the last two months, which is the Padres are unable to survive the rest of the regular season without adding starting pitching.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's exactly what they've done.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, I'm going to see a lot of, there's going to be a lot of reaction to Junior Hernandez being included in this deal.
[SPEAKER_01]: And there was a lot of reaction last year, obviously, when they tried it for Mason Miller, but at that point, I mean, you tried to weigh the top position prospect arguably in the sport, in Leo de Vries, but it's a little bit of like a risk reward cat and mouse game.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, what are you trying to accomplish right now?
[SPEAKER_01]: and does this serve both 2026 goals and also the organizations, motivations, moving forward.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we don't really know how the organization is going to act under a new ownership, when it becomes official, which is not yet official.
[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, with Jose Feliziano and Kwanza Jones.
[SPEAKER_01]: But maybe it is so much surprising that the Padres didn't pay down the robby right deal, because we're just take on the salary.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think if you take on the entirety of the salary, you're not getting both of those players in return, but the giants by paying a portion of raise remaining dollars, maybe in the effort of $45 million over all, that likely got them the Padres to increase the return, right, for maybe a different player, a lower-rated prospect to get Hernandez, the 17-year-old
[SPEAKER_01]: maybe that's how they also landed mandates in the deal as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm sure there'll be a lot of opinions on it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think in the immediate, again, when you think about the Pigerate's rotation, it is drastically improved by adding Robbie Ray.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't think that's arguable at this point.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you were throwing out a rotation that if you are to get to the postseason, and first of all, it's too full.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, you got to get there.
[SPEAKER_01]: and then be once you're there, do you have a shot?
[SPEAKER_01]: And you have to have starting pitching.
[SPEAKER_01]: And if the postseason started tomorrow and you're as your pro-ler or the Pajres, you have one effective starter available to you in Michael King.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's no way to go about trying to win.
[SPEAKER_01]: Even a three game series, let alone a five or seven game series.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now with King and Ray, it's not exactly
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, scuba and Yamamoto, or it's not exactly what the brewers have right now with the front of their rotation with Miserowski, so on and so forth, even Philadelphia, obviously with the front of their rotation with Christopher Sanchez, but you're at least giving yourself a shot by adding a starting pitch that this isn't like a number four starter.
[SPEAKER_01]: You basically just added San Francisco's ace and he's going to slot in perfectly as your number two.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think a lot of
[SPEAKER_01]: for the podres consider in their assets within their system, but they do add, again, Robbie, right here, and they do it about three hours before the trade deadline's going to hit.
[SPEAKER_01]: Here's the latest from Joe Sherman, by the way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he says with Ray, the Padre still want another starting pitcher.
[SPEAKER_01]: But are also focused on a left-aid abat, maybe from the Alec Burlson, Dalton Varshot-type group.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've always liked Sharon Durran, at least talked to the Orioles about Jackson Holiday, which is, there was someone else that had reported that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's probably the most significant part of that tweet there from Joel Sherman that the podgers are, you know, taking some big swings here.
[SPEAKER_01]: You think about Jackson Holliday at one point one of the biggest prospects in the sport former first overall pick back in 2022 that made his major league debut what back in 2024 I mean his overall body of work you know is lacking some of what you'd hope but he is still a very young player
[SPEAKER_01]: Left-handed bat, middle-infielder, career numbers, Scott, how many games, not 269 games, he's hit 233, let's see, he's hit 27 current home runs, 98 RBI's, but again, at one point, one of the top prospects and all of baseball and still just 22 years of age, what would it take to probably hand potentially lose?
[SPEAKER_01]: Here's a player that's under control through 2030.
[SPEAKER_01]: that has just over one year of service time in the major leagues.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the point is the podgers are a little bit all over the map.
[SPEAKER_01]: We knew they wanted to add a starting pitcher.
[SPEAKER_01]: They've done it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think adding a second starting pitcher towards the back of a rotation makes sense.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now that you've added Ray, and adding a left-handed bat has made a lot of sense that we've discussed.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, preferably, I would think an outfielder, Mickey Monieck, again, one of the players that's been discussed the San Diego,
[SPEAKER_01]: First, overall pick, Moniak would fit into that description as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: But again, the latest from Jill Sherman, podgers are still interested in adding another starting pitcher and also potentially a left-handed bat with the deadline coming up in about three hours or so.
[SPEAKER_01]: Kevin A.
[SPEAKER_01]: C's writing and reporting on this as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to join us today on Shafer and Sliwa at 530.
[SPEAKER_01]: Annie Halburn from the UT will join us today at 5pm as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: On Shafer and Sliwa, so we'll have you covered throughout the course of the afternoon.
[SPEAKER_01]: Alright, let's get to some of these super chats.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we'd love to get
[SPEAKER_01]: a live poll in the chat and a result right now.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's see in the chat, did AJ over pay with two top 10 prospects in return and 65% of the 138 votes saying no, AJ did not over pay.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the initial first blush reaction from those here with us today on the wrap-up show saying that AJ got it right.
[SPEAKER_01]: with this move for Ray and he didn't overpay in the return of two top 10 prospects in the Padre's organization.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, JD Goucher getting us started here this afternoon, appreciate you, Minnesota.
[SPEAKER_00]: Always for hanging out.
[SPEAKER_00]: He says Padre's comes raised by no excuses for the others.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, obviously we're not yet fully at the deadline and teams still have over three hours to make these moves.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know, there's, there's been a lot of reaction obviously to what played out Saturday night with school to the Dodgers.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, could someone have potentially gotten in to potentially probably him lose from LA.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's a conversation that we had, I think yesterday in the wrap-up show.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure we'll have today on Shafer in Slua.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's probably a different conversation in terms of how to determine who's a buyer in the national league.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, this was not clear cut for Asia.
[SPEAKER_01]: when his team was sitting at 500 and sitting maybe two or three or three or three and a half games out of a playoff spot, but his team has left him no choice because of the way that they have played, and I think it's the choice that he would prefer, and that is to make the additions necessary to win this year.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, you may argue that what's the point, aren't you playing for second place in the national league because of the Dodgers?
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's all going to play out over the course of the next couple of months.
[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, the Dodgers have the leg up on everyone else in the national league.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let alone all of Major League Baseball.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they've only added to that with the scuba audition, but I mean, they got to stay healthy.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they need to play their best baseball when it matters.
[SPEAKER_01]: And this is something they have done in 2024 and 25.
[SPEAKER_01]: And while they do it in 26, maybe, nobody really knows that right now.
[SPEAKER_01]: But
[SPEAKER_01]: I think just from a podger's perspective, I mean, certainly the cubs would be aggressive buyers based on whether standing, I mean, the rays and the brewers should be buyers based on where they are across their respective leagues.
[SPEAKER_01]: But from a podger's perspective, I mean, AJ Perler has always been an aggressive GM that's trying to put his team in a better situation this time of year when they've been positioned to reach the postseason, which is for the better part of this decade.
[SPEAKER_01]: They've been at least in a position.
[SPEAKER_01]: to reach the postseason, and this was always our expectation, I think here today.
[SPEAKER_01]: After they rattled off at eight wins in nine tries, and I know what people have been saying.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, nobody.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it does this more in real time than we do.
[SPEAKER_01]: And what people have been saying is that, this ain't it.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's full's gold.
[SPEAKER_01]: They should sell.
[SPEAKER_01]: They should think about the long-term viability of the organization over the second half of 2026.
[SPEAKER_01]: Both things can still be true.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you can try to make the postseason in 2026.
[SPEAKER_01]: You can try to put yourself at a better position if you're in a best of three wild card series by adding a second starter to pair with Michael King.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you can be thinking about 2027 and beyond.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't feel as if this move specifically has prevented the podgers from winning in 2027, for example.
[SPEAKER_01]: The short-sought prospect we've been talking about is someone that's not going to get to the big leagues for at a minimum three years.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it could be more like four or five years.
[SPEAKER_01]: Giving up a prospect in Mendez for a starter that's got what the second lowest DRA and baseball may be over his last 10 starts.
[SPEAKER_01]: It seems like a reasonable return.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, again, if you could have everything, maybe you wish the podgers just take on the money, and give them the giants a lesser caliber return, like two prospects that weren't within their top 10, and maybe two top 30 prospects would have been set to San Francisco, if you took on that money, but they elected otherwise.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's something that we'll spend a lot of time on today, probably on Shafer and Slua.
[SPEAKER_01]: The end result though of adding Robby Ray is the most significant part of this equation for today.
[SPEAKER_01]: For Pietro's fans heading into this Arizona series, heading into hopefully the 2026 postseason, the most significant part is Robby Ray.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, a lot of you probably watched him carve the other day.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I didn't even think he pitched over, overly effectively.
[SPEAKER_01]: He was behind in a lot of counts through a lot of pitches, but kind of every single jam.
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, supporters line up has been way better here recently.
[SPEAKER_01]: In fact, the only time they've really been shut down in the last two weeks has been by Robbie Ray, who went there six days.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think just a lot of one run in the opening game of that four-game series.
[SPEAKER_01]: So there's now multiple reports, by the way.
[SPEAKER_01]: that the Padre has half checked in on Jackson, Halada.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we've now seen that from Jill Sherman.
[SPEAKER_01]: Francis Romero who's covered mentally baseball for a long time, baseball reporter, BBWAA member.
[SPEAKER_01]: We've referenced his reporting before on the channels.
[SPEAKER_01]: Also, mentioned in the Padre has have checked in on Jackson, Halada, per sources.
[SPEAKER_01]: So still could be a busy next couple of hours for San Diego.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, let's see Tom, thank you, man.
[SPEAKER_01]: For the super chatty says, Perler won't be with your organization when Joe Neil plays in the majors.
[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't care about a 17 year old prospect.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right now, I mean, it's very possible that that, in fact, is a correct statement.
[SPEAKER_01]: Perler's not gonna be her for forever.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is year like 100, for the budget general manager, went to the getter 2014.
[SPEAKER_01]: and we're heading towards the 2026 off season with the lockout looming.
[SPEAKER_01]: There will come a day and you have a new ownership group.
[SPEAKER_01]: There'll come a day, obviously, when he's no longer the general manager of the podries, it doesn't feel as if that day is coming within the next handful of weeks or months.
[SPEAKER_01]: Is it something that could play out over 2027, depending on how they succeed or fail in the second half of 2026 or what plays out with the roster in 2027, paired with the new ownership?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, absolutely.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, things could change, but I think as we sit here right now, there's the evidence we have.
[SPEAKER_01]: We know he just was given the authority to trade away not one but two top ten prospects and he just brought in a top tier starter for the final 50 games plus hopefully the postseason of 2026.
[SPEAKER_01]: So he's not being handcuffed right now by whomever is running the organization whether it's Sean Seidler or Jose Feliziano or combination of those two groups right now.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's not being handcuffed by them right now.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'd be surprised if this was the only move that he makes.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think at this point, once you've made a significant trade like this, you want to just finish off the roster to the best of your ability.
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, you're not going to have a roster that's going to be on equal footing to Milwaukee.
[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously L.A. arguably even a team like Philadelphia even though they've struggled, but you look at Philadelphia with the rise, look at that line up the top of their rotation.
[SPEAKER_01]: But do you have a top six roster in the National League and are you competing squarely for one of those postseason spots with Arizona and Philadelphia?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, absolutely.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think this addition essentially assures that that they will be competing at least for that fifth or sixth seed in the National League.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, let's continue on here with the super chats on this Monday morning Padres, again, have acquired Robby Ray for two top 10 prospects in a deal in division between the Padres and the Giants.
[SPEAKER_01]: Every so often, why see you, thank you, man, appreciate you hanging out.
[SPEAKER_01]: He says, uh, just hope they can chase down a wildcard spot now.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, absolutely.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's a little bit of high stakes poker and by a little bit, it's high stakes poker.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's the business that these general managers and organizations are in.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're weighing in real time, um, whether or not you think certain things are attainable.
[SPEAKER_01]: By the way, Adley Rushman, the All-Star Catcher with the Orioles heading to Boston, the Red Sucks have been
[SPEAKER_01]: And by the way, a report within the last 20 minutes that the Mariners have checked in on Mason Miller, not to say that he's going to move, but a report within the last 20 minutes is that, and this is from Adam Jude, who covers the Mariners for the Seattle Times that the Mariners have checked in on Mason Miller.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'd be very surprised at Miller moved.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but again, knowing that they've added Ray and traded away a pair of prospects.
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, I'd be very surprised if Miller moved, but you have to at least keep open the possibility of someone in the back of that rotation is a more home.
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought after last night it would be surprising if he moved.
[SPEAKER_01]: is he still a possibility to be on the market, makes him Miller, I would be more surprised if Mason Miller moved, is there someone else in that bullpen that has a good enough return, potential for the podries that they would consider moving here over the next couple of hours.
[SPEAKER_01]: Where was I, by the way?
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah, hopefully they can chase down a wildcard spot.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, that's the goal here.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I don't think you could you go out and get Robbie right.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a rental.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's now going to be here in 2027 under the hope that you're going to go 82 and 80 and miss out on the postseason.
[SPEAKER_01]: So this is a clear indicator that Preller has turned his attention to the final 50 games of this year.
[SPEAKER_01]: as opposed to 2027 to 2028.
[SPEAKER_01]: When you say that, now multiple things can be true because you could make a move like this and then later in this process you could also go and spin players from your majorly roster for a return and you could do a little bit of both.
[SPEAKER_01]: by for right now, you could sell for later, and result might be a little more buying or end result might be a little more selling.
[SPEAKER_01]: I still think the end result this time around and this is even more clear based on the ray move.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think the end result is gonna be a clear buyer.
[SPEAKER_01]: And honestly, it might be that they were a significant buyer at the deadline based on this initial move.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think if you would have told me,
[SPEAKER_01]: seven days ago, the podgers are out in Robby, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: I would have said that's a significant by that's a significant way for the organization to lean in at the deadline.
[SPEAKER_01]: That isn't the equivalent of adding Rich Hill or G-Man Choi at the 2023 deadline.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is going well beyond that.
[SPEAKER_01]: This isn't putting someone as your number five starter for the last 50 games the year.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is putting someone as your number two starter.
[SPEAKER_01]: for the last 50 games of the year plus, hopefully the postseason here in 2026.
[SPEAKER_01]: And by the way, if you make the postseason, you're guaranteed if he's healthy to have Robbie Rice start one of those games presumably, along with Michael King.
[SPEAKER_01]: Jack, appreciate your man.
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you so much for hanging out.
[SPEAKER_01]: He says, John, you're the man.
[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks for coming on.
[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, just reacting in real time, which can create a little bit of challenges because you're trying to keep up with social media, which is what I'm doing to my right.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm also trying to obviously interact with the viewers here today, but happy to do it and looking forward to talking about it throughout the course of the day right now.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then again, I'm safer and slew what and then again, of course tonight here on the wrap up show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so reacting in real time to the podgers acquiring Robby Ray from the Giants for a pair of top 10 prospects.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now,
[SPEAKER_01]: What I like about the addition is just some of the numbers in terms of how Ray has pitched recently and how Ray has pitched historically at Petko Park.
[SPEAKER_01]: His numbers throughout the course of his career at Petko have been incredibly good, incredibly good.
[SPEAKER_01]: And there's the familiarity, obviously, having pitched, as recently as last week in San Diego and having pitched in division with the giants, but
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, his numbers hope for all are good.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think his walk rate is up a little bit this year.
[SPEAKER_01]: His, I think I had it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let me find, let me pull up his numbers real quick.
[SPEAKER_01]: His, his whip is walks and hits over innings was a little high this year.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it speaks to his walk rate, but his no-for-all body of work is really good.
[SPEAKER_01]: So his whip is actually his career average, which is about 1.3 to 1.288, around 1.3 base runners per inning.
[SPEAKER_01]: against Robby Wright, but the overall body work of 3.080 Wright, which is about 3 quarters of a run better than his career.
[SPEAKER_01]: 22 games 21 starts, 122 and 23rd innings means he's a workhorse.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's not a five in a guy.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a six in guy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now he's striking out less than a batter per inning, 107 strikeouts, 122 and 23rd innings.
[SPEAKER_01]: two or ten and six of the 3.08 ERA and again you look at what he's done recently and he has been sensational last time out six innings one run time before that against the angels six innings no runs time before that Seattle four innings one earn run outing before that Colorado five innings one run so very very efficient and effective for Robbie Ray this isn't adding to her school obviously veteran starter
[SPEAKER_01]: in his mid thirties, but in the midst of one of his better years and someone that has pitched towards the top of rotations before and will be asked to do that once again here with San Diego.
[SPEAKER_01]: So again, I think it's a significant addition.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's pitched in the postseason.
[SPEAKER_01]: You have to go all the way back to 2022 with Seattle.
[SPEAKER_01]: He does not have postseason success.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's only three lifetime with a 743.
[SPEAKER_01]: I pitched in NLDS with Arizona as a very young player in 2017, pitched to Toronto in 2020 during the COVID year in the postseason and pitched in 2022 and put the wildcard and the divisional series with the Seattle Mariners.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's been a while, but he has significant postseason experience in the major leagues.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The angels are just tearing the entire thing down.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Since you think AJ's positioning, design right later.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, not based on the news that the giants are paying half of the remaining dollars, truthfully.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the fact that Ray is going to be a free agent and he's making $25 million this year, are they going to be in a position with money coming off the books between 26 and 27 to
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, maybe Jose Feliciano is going to be in the category of adding resources like that in his introductory period as new Pedro's owner potentially, but they've got money that isn't coming off the books as of yet.
[SPEAKER_01]: In the rotation, I'm talking about you, Darvish, who hasn't retired and is still being paid or Joe Voskrov, who's under contract in 2027, Nick Poveta could still be here in 2027.
[SPEAKER_01]: Michael King could still be here, hopefully, as if he opts in in 2027.
[SPEAKER_01]: Of course, he could opt out, he's having a good year.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is basically a series of three, one-year deals for Michael King.
[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe it's dependent on what happens with King.
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe it's dependent on what happens with Poveta.
[SPEAKER_01]: They do have a lot of dollars tied up.
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, it's not going to be the most expensive free agent acquisition out there in the starting pitching market because of his age, but he's also not going to come cheap, so to speak.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I think the best of all worlds would have been finding a upper cross starter that had a year of control beyond 2026.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because then you know your cost with that player in 2027 and you're not just,
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, taking a stab at the 2026, you know, postseason run, but you're also getting some control ability, maybe affordability and some assurances in 2027, but they couldn't do that in this deal.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I kind of understand striking for Ray, like would you prefer they settled for a lower tier starter that was controllable for another year or shoot for the top of the market.
[SPEAKER_01]: and land that player even if he's only going to make nine or ten starts for the podres.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think the advantage here is they already have average or below average starting pitch.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're not necessarily just looking to eat innings.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that is part of it, probably.
[SPEAKER_01]: But you'd like to eat the innings effectively.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's where Robbie Rose can help you right now in 2026.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, let's see here.
[SPEAKER_01]: Vector, thank you, man, for the super shy says H.J.
[SPEAKER_01]: Pine feels like a tired act to keep the fan base appeased.
[SPEAKER_01]: This team has to get passed first round to make this worth it, beat some good teams.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think there's a lot of factors at play, obviously.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you're H.J.
[SPEAKER_01]: a proller, I was there Saturday night.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's no surprise to see Pekko Park filled on any night, including a Saturday, but it's amazing.
[SPEAKER_01]: The fan support that his club continues to receive, despite the fact that this year has once again been up and down,
[SPEAKER_01]: to consider that they're not competing for a division, that a best case scenario is likely the second wild card.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it's outside of the realm of possibility that they play well over the final 50 games.
[SPEAKER_01]: It could track down the cubs, but that will not be easy, obviously.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that would be the expectation.
[SPEAKER_01]: Today at the trade deadline, so you're looking at a scenario where you're either at best the second wild card or the third wild card.
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I mean, I understand it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think a lot of people say we've played this game before.
[SPEAKER_01]: Our window is closing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Why don't we reopen a window or position ourselves to compete at a higher level in 2027 MP on?
[SPEAKER_01]: So on one hand, there's that sentiment.
[SPEAKER_01]: On the other hand, you got Manning Machado's a 34 year old.
[SPEAKER_01]: You've got all these players tied up in long-term deals and your payrolls at top 10, one in the sport.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the team isn't getting any younger, so to speak.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you're trying to, yes, appease a lot of people.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's just fans, but ownership, stakeholders, marketing partners.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you're trying to be as relevant as possible.
[SPEAKER_01]: in a very challenging marketplace that includes the LA Dodgers and Southern California, and team this one three of the last five world series.
[SPEAKER_01]: So how do you thread all of those needles?
[SPEAKER_01]: If you're H.A.
[SPEAKER_01]: Preller, and it's proven to be challenging, yet despite all of those challenges, his team is at least positioned to make the postseason in 2026.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not that far fetched.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're one game out with 50 to play, and we know there's going to be more adversity here.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not like they're just going to go
[SPEAKER_01]: 35 and 15 you wouldn't think and cruise into the posties and maybe even be that number four seed if that played out.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's more likely that the whole scratch and claw and maybe it's you know 28 and 22 to finish and that gets it done and that's a decent winning percentage by the way that's 560 right if they went 28 and 22 they're going to lose another series this year they're going to back to back losses again at some point presumably but now you hopefully have the stoppers in that rotation to prevent you know a two game losing streak from becoming three or three game losing streak from becoming four and hopefully with right and king towards the front of your rotation.
[SPEAKER_01]: You are potentially positioned better than Arizona to make the postseason.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if that'll be the place the case or not.
[SPEAKER_01]: See what Arizona does here today.
[SPEAKER_01]: See how the series in Phoenix plays out over the next four games.
[SPEAKER_01]: Whoever is able to win it if either team wins it has a nice position to lay claim to.
[SPEAKER_01]: If the podgers win the series, they have moved past Arizona in the standings by a game if they take three out of four.
[SPEAKER_01]: If Arizona wins three out of four.
[SPEAKER_01]: Diamondbacks are sitting in a good spot.
[SPEAKER_01]: Three games up with 46 games to play.
[SPEAKER_01]: They still meet in San Diego, the final series of the year as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: But it isn't important series.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it's the end all PLC's and is on the line series because you still have more than like 10 days remaining in your season.
[SPEAKER_01]: We might have a very special guest, by the way.
[SPEAKER_01]: We might have a podgeris insider.
[SPEAKER_01]: Join this podgeris insider, Dammit.
[SPEAKER_01]: Can you put yourself in here or now?
[SPEAKER_01]: Hold on.
[SPEAKER_01]: Where are you?
[SPEAKER_01]: Hold on.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: The podgerian cider himself, Jim Russell.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: You let it drive and be on video in Pennsylvania.
[SPEAKER_01]: Is that legal?
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm parked, I'm parked in my car, bro.
[SPEAKER_01]: Why does this sound like you have a list of every time you're on your phone?
[SPEAKER_00]: Before we're already gone over this, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: You look like you're in like an hourglass.
[SPEAKER_01]: You have two minutes?
[SPEAKER_00]: Some of my phone, what do you want to do with this?
[SPEAKER_01]: Why does she turn your flare together?
[SPEAKER_00]: That's better for ya.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's way better, dude.
[SPEAKER_00]: I just did.
[SPEAKER_01]: What are you in your wraps for?
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, there we go.
[SPEAKER_00]: What, what other car would I be in, John?
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, dude.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, well, this is turned into a shit show.
[SPEAKER_01]: So let's get your reaction on Robby Ray to the Padre's from the Giants for a pair of top 10 prospects that you said who cares about.
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll never hear from them again.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's exactly my thoughts.
[SPEAKER_00]: Anybody out there that is,
[SPEAKER_00]: trying about potentially the podries giving up too much, stop it, just stop it, stop it.
[SPEAKER_00]: You will never remember these prospects, and my guess is you've never even heard of these prospects.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's maybe like five podries fans out there that are like, you know, in tune with everybody in the organization, and knows who these guys are, um,
[SPEAKER_00]: And if you're a fan, how can you be anything other than excited?
[SPEAKER_00]: Because Perler, once again, pulls it off, they got exactly who they needed.
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't think this was possible.
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't think the giants would trade indivision.
[SPEAKER_00]: But they did.
[SPEAKER_00]: And Robbie Ray is the exact person that this team needed.
[SPEAKER_00]: And we know Perler's not done yet.
[SPEAKER_00]: So,
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I say about my tweet, Padres traded two prospects that you'll never remember ever in your entire life again for a former All-Star picture.
[SPEAKER_00]: Lefty, who's got a 160RA since the start of June.
[SPEAKER_01]: I completely agree with you.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we just saw him within the last week.
[SPEAKER_01]: He shoved his numbers.
[SPEAKER_01]: Remember we said, oh, they're going to add starting pitching, but to what extent, they just added a front line starter.
[SPEAKER_01]: They didn't add a number four.
[SPEAKER_01]: They didn't add a number three.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they basically added a one B for me to Michael Kang.
[SPEAKER_01]: And now if you do make the postseason even a wild card series, you have Robbie Ray and Michael Kang started those games.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a big difference from where you were.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_00]: Robbie Ray might be your number one star.
[SPEAKER_00]: depending on what happens with preventance.
[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: So good point.
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought they were, you know, I thought they were going to add like a middle rotation to back and rotation guy, like just to eat any, it has a four something.
[SPEAKER_00]: But they pulled off a trade.
[SPEAKER_00]: uh... age it does it again for uh... all star lefty who that's to start it soon has been the second best picture in baseball you could argue illist e-r-i-r-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i
[SPEAKER_00]: who don't get hung up on whoever they traded.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, you're never gonna remember these guys.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm telling you.
[SPEAKER_01]: But Jim, Joe Neil Hernandez is tearing up the DSL.
[SPEAKER_00]: Nobody cares.
[SPEAKER_00]: Nobody should care.
[SPEAKER_00]: Nobody cares.
[SPEAKER_00]: He won't be in the big tilt the earliest, 2031.
[SPEAKER_00]: Nobody cares.
[SPEAKER_00]: The reliever or pitch are they trained for?
[SPEAKER_00]: Nobody cares.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was I was worried for a second there about who they might have traded for Robby Ray, but the second I saw that the return for the giants, I'm like, ha, perfect, who cares?
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't care, nor should you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Nobody should care.
[SPEAKER_00]: Patrick Scott, Robby Ray today, it's all matters.
[SPEAKER_01]: What about the idea that the giants are paying some of raise money?
[SPEAKER_01]: Therefore, if the podgers would have paid more, they could have weakened the return.
[SPEAKER_01]: It could have been like a lower tier prospect but the giants are paying half of what raise earned.
[SPEAKER_01]: Should the podgers just take an on more money to give it a weakened return or did the giants want to pay the money so they could get better players back?
[SPEAKER_01]: Who is that?
[SPEAKER_01]: My plan, my plan, she asked an airplane checkers.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm playing the hey is robby rain all star lefty picture that can help the team right now.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, are these two prospects they traded away not to be harsh, but a bunch of randos.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I don't care.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like the return, oh man, the pod dish had to eat more money so to lessen the, listen the blow of to trade away these prospects blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.
[SPEAKER_00]: They traded away two guys that that 95% of pod dish fans have never heard of before.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that would like to pollute us in that correct and and so with that being said I'm not going to sit here and talk about semantics with like oh, maybe if the Padre is a little bit more money of raise contract than they wouldn't have to trade away this guy who cares There's one doing the organization that all Padre's fans don't want to be traded right now it's Ethan Salis Maybe cash may feel okay two other than that who cares
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's well said, I mean, you're one came out of a playoff spot and you could add Robbie Ray for dudes that aren't, aren't going to impact your team for years, if ever.
[SPEAKER_00]: Who cares?
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, you got Robbie Ray back for, for two guys you've never heard of.
[SPEAKER_00]: And if you're a podger stand that claims that like you have and there's like maybe five dudes that I know on that I that I know personally that have other than that you've never heard of these two days before.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it doesn't matter.
[SPEAKER_00]: You got Robby Ray be excited about that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't sit on your ass and be upset that you traded away two guys you've never heard of before.
[SPEAKER_00]: You got Robby Ray for the for the stretch run here.
[SPEAKER_00]: A guy you desperately needed.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, he's a rental.
[SPEAKER_00]: I understand that.
[SPEAKER_00]: but it's once again, AJ, Perl are saying, effort, I'm going all in for this year.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I always respect that, even though it does seem bleak about their future, but shit.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, there's probably a lock on extra anyways, so fuck it, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: So who even cares?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And to me, it is such fake outrage.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're like, how could they give up?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, showin' you, showin' you into, it's like, we, oh, this guy may not get a control.
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't worry, he cares about your deal.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hernandez.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, let alone the major leagues.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so are you on the road just trying to talk to people about the trade?
[SPEAKER_01]: Are you asking people in Pennsylvania what they think of the Dodgers?
[SPEAKER_01]: Nice, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, I am.
[SPEAKER_00]: But actually, I have to go and ask more people about the trade right now.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, good.
[SPEAKER_00]: Go report back.
[SPEAKER_01]: The next time you get in your car, I'm going to be on for another 20 or 30 minutes.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you're back in your car in the next 15 or 20, hop back in.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, OK, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's what that will happen.
[SPEAKER_00]: Bye.
[SPEAKER_01]: OK, that's great.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, there goes Jim.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think, what is he doing?
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, he's out of here.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's Jim Russell, folks.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was Jim Russell.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, we're going to get a totally super chance coming up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, Rob Roberts, thank you for the super.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he says, love AJ thinking like a fan, anything possible in postseason, 24 aiming to buckle in 24 and multiple J's failures in 25 away from no LA rings.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, again, that's a coping mechanism.
[SPEAKER_01]: I do it as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: The facts are the facts.
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll play that in 2024, although the podgers were positioned well until they weren't.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then the J's were very well positioned, like in game 6 and 7 of the world series, before they squander those opportunities.
[SPEAKER_01]: But one fact that is true is how you started it by saying in the postseason anything is possible.
[SPEAKER_01]: But John the Dodgers have fund the world series each of the last two years.
[SPEAKER_01]: I understand it.
[SPEAKER_01]: That doesn't take away the possibility that things do happen in the postseason that are unpredictable.
[SPEAKER_01]: Arizona has played for World Series in recent years.
[SPEAKER_01]: Philadelphia is a six seed did the same thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think Texas won the World Series with 88 wins.
[SPEAKER_01]: or Atlanta won the World Series of the 88 wins and Texas won the World Series of the 90 wins.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you don't always have to be this juggernaut, favorite all year long, 99 win team that wins a division by 10 plus games to get to a World Series or win one.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, it does the deck stack against you and L.A. is this version of L.A. Of course it does, of course it does.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not to say any of this would be easy, but nobody thought in 2022 would be easy for the powders to beat the Dodgers when they win five and 13 against them in the regular season, then beat them in a five game series three games to one.
[SPEAKER_01]: We don't know is the point nobody knows look at what teams are doing around baseball today They haven't waved white flags collectively.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're trying to win and as a result the podgers are in that category as well They are a buyer as we see it right now, obviously by adding Robby right, but thank you man That's a very good super and I agree with the sentiments overall
[SPEAKER_01]: The two step says, uh, what do you make of raise awful advanced stats pretty much all blue and savant seems like another guy we buy high on, then disappoints here now.
[SPEAKER_01]: I would disagree with that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the Padres, uh, if anyone knows Robby Rayne what he's capable of, it's going to be the Padres.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they have faced him a ton here as recently as five days ago or four days ago or whenever it was.
[SPEAKER_01]: Forget about the advanced stats for a moment because just look at what he's doing in real time.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like what's more impactful?
[SPEAKER_01]: Whatever his fielding independent pitching stats say, or
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, some of these other advanced metrics are saying right now, or what he's done on mound his last 10 outings.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, his last 10 outings, he's got a sub two ERA.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's the second best dog picture in the sport over his last 10 outings.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like that can't be a morage.
[SPEAKER_01]: You can't have a sub two ERA for 10 starts and completely discount that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, what you can say is will he be able to replicate that?
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's probably wishful.
[SPEAKER_01]: But he doesn't have to be a sub two ERA guy.
[SPEAKER_01]: He could be a mid three ERA guy and give you the length you desire.
[SPEAKER_01]: Give you the quality you're seeking and be a massive upgrade over the cat and mouse game that they're playing with pitching chaos over the last nine days.
[SPEAKER_01]: Pitching chaos has worked beautifully, but it's worked beautifully against the Rockies and the Giants and the Marlins.
[SPEAKER_01]: You need a better rotation
[SPEAKER_01]: When you're facing teams like Arizona and LA in the second half of the year, and they're going to face Arizona tons seven of their final 50 games, LA I think three games are managed to 10 of your final 50 are Arizona and LA.
[SPEAKER_01]: The pitch and chaos thing is cute.
[SPEAKER_01]: Ultimately, you want an established rotation.
[SPEAKER_01]: If possible, at least for three or four of the spot to your five-minute rotation, you don't want three bullpen games every five days, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Every turn through your rotation.
[SPEAKER_01]: You don't need three bullpen games.
[SPEAKER_01]: You prefer to have maybe one and most two.
[SPEAKER_01]: And this is getting you closer to that goal.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's now you have King and Ray.
[SPEAKER_01]: Bueller's gonna start every fifth day.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're not playing games with him coming off Tommy John, although he hasn't.
[SPEAKER_01]: been overly effective by and large in the second half of the year.
[SPEAKER_01]: But raise been good.
[SPEAKER_01]: And like, simple as that.
[SPEAKER_01]: We saw it with our own two eyes.
[SPEAKER_01]: The walks are up.
[SPEAKER_01]: The one concerning number in general with the right maybe is his command.
[SPEAKER_01]: His walks are up this year.
[SPEAKER_01]: But he's been able to get out of spots.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he did it again and can say good line up a few days ago in San Diego.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a significant upgrade.
[SPEAKER_01]: Even if he isn't that sub to our two ERA picture, he's been over the last, you know, two
[SPEAKER_01]: Rob follows up with Lisp Jim, greater than non-Lisp Jim.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the post at such a good point, man.
[SPEAKER_01]: Jim is such a, he's a wild card dude.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's an adventure, he really is.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then, big B40 Wolf, thank you, man, for the super sister screw it, let's get trout.
[SPEAKER_01]: You don't want to take on that salary.
[SPEAKER_01]: If the potter didn't want to take on $8 million from Robbie Ray, I don't think they want to take on hundreds of million dollars from the angels, but I guess never say never in Yolo at this point.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, let's see, what's happening right now around baseball, as I do a quick check right now on social.
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, let's say, well, the cops were initially reported to a landed redenters from the angels, but not Jesse Rogers at the SPN report and they have not acquired redenters in the trade with the angels per a source.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, that's interesting, but they have acquired a left-hander Braxton Garrett from the Marlins.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the Cubs are dealing and we're going to see, I mean,
[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to see a lot over the next two hours across baseball.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's so many deals that come in under the wire.
[SPEAKER_01]: So to speak in that final hour, like we'll have to keep track of that.
[SPEAKER_01]: They'll be minor ones in there.
[SPEAKER_01]: But they'll be what?
[SPEAKER_01]: 10, 20, 25 deals that come in.
[SPEAKER_01]: in the final hour, like there's going to be a slew of deals over all the day.
[SPEAKER_01]: This idea that the Dodgers have already won the World Series, why does it even matter?
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not evident based on what you're going to see take place around baseball.
[SPEAKER_01]: Today, including what's already played out, I think the Ray move is a significant one, and thank you again, man.
[SPEAKER_01]: For the super chat, I think Louisa Ryes to Philadelphia is a significant move.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's good available starting pitching on the market even now, and it almost feels like if you're a buyer and you're looking for starting pitching it's there to be had.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because it they've been moving left and right over the last 24 48 hours and it it feels as if there's still others that might be available to AJ seller before the deadline hits in two hours and 45 minutes so I'm still keeping my eye and starting pitching I'm absolutely keeping my eye on a left handed bat.
[SPEAKER_01]: And there's still that possibility that he's going to do something that nobody is predicting, addressing something that nobody is expecting.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's see Kevin AC, tweeting out just a few moments ago, AJ Proler evidently going after another starting pitcher and pushing hard for a left hand hitting out filter.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm cute.
[SPEAKER_01]: And someone familiar with what the podgers are seeking just said, what did you expect?
[SPEAKER_01]: There are no half measures with AJ.
[SPEAKER_01]: There it is.
[SPEAKER_01]: So this idea that they would just
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, slowly walk their way in and walk away with Codai Senga and his 8.60 alright off injured Codai Senga.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, but that's not what they're ultimately going to accomplish this year at the deadline.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's really not been their goals by in large in recent years.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, 2021.
[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, the wheels just completely fell off.
[SPEAKER_01]: They didn't really address their needs and they paid for it in the second half of twenty twenty one twenty twenty three was like a Measured by they didn't want to sell because of all the expectations for the franchise coming off twenty twenty two, but they fell flat on their face they could have traded away.
[SPEAKER_01]: Blake's Nell and Josh Hader, 2026 to me, is feeling a little bit like 2024 where they aggressively pursued relievers to address a need that then made them discernibly better over the final 50 or 60 games of that season.
[SPEAKER_01]: This to me feels like they're aggressively trying to fill their needs.
[SPEAKER_01]: in hopes of drastically improving their chances in the second half of the year.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, it doesn't mean it'll get the same results of 2024, but to me, they're not dipping their toe in by landing a player of the caliber of Robbie Ray.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is a significant addition.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not terrible, but it's a significant addition.
[SPEAKER_01]: at the top of your rotation, arguably like Jim Giuseppe and I agree, he could be a game one starter in a postseason.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a one B to Michael King right now.
[SPEAKER_01]: He ultimately could be a one A in your rotation by the time 2026 comes to an end.
[SPEAKER_01]: Jady Gatcher says Eric Lauer still out there will Dodgers move him.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's been terrific, hasn't he?
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, obviously, the Dodgers right now with their rotation are an embarrassment of riches, Eric Lauer is not going to be moved to the Padres, I wouldn't think.
[SPEAKER_01]: From LA, I wouldn't even think he'd be moved.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'd prefer to have the gap, especially with the injuries that the Dodgers are still dealing with.
[SPEAKER_01]: But he's absolutely been a revelation over the course of however long it's been now the last month or so with LA.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, I think that speaks to the greater point about what is available and how you can make upgrades even on the margins that can make a positive impact on your club.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, their next move doesn't have to be a Robbie Ray equivalent.
[SPEAKER_01]: They don't have to go give up to more of their top 10 prospects.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, are we going to walk away from this deadline by saying that the podgers traded five of their top 10 prospects?
[SPEAKER_01]: That's still would likely remain surprising, wouldn't it?
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, they've already traded away two of them.
[SPEAKER_01]: According to MLP pipeline, number four and number nine, again, the number nine prospect is like a decade away from major leagues, not literally, but he's not even playing right now state side is playing in the Dominican as a 17 year old and having a really good year, but he's in the Dominican summer league hitting 300 with a 900 OPS.
[SPEAKER_01]: Then the other picture they gave up is potentially an impactful piece along the way for San Francisco and his closer to the major leagues.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I've said there's so many times over the years, you have to be willing to give if you're going to get.
[SPEAKER_01]: It is a trade.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not just what's gonna make the podgeries better.
[SPEAKER_01]: The other teams have to think about what's gonna make them better as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: What makes sense for both sides?
[SPEAKER_01]: Preller hasn't won ever deal.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of deals you could look back on.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's recently his last year and be like, he didn't win that deal.
[SPEAKER_01]: Look at Freddie for me.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it seemed clear his day in real time that won't show whoever landed won't sell those winning that deal.
[SPEAKER_01]: It didn't necessarily play out that way.
[SPEAKER_01]: So he's not a lock to win any of these deals.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that includes the deal that he just made here today.
[SPEAKER_01]: There is a risk associated with it.
[SPEAKER_01]: The fact that he's willing to take on those risks,
[SPEAKER_01]: is what I appreciate the most.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's willing to take on the risk.
[SPEAKER_01]: He does it with a level of fearlessness.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I respect that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Doesn't mean it's going to ultimately work.
[SPEAKER_01]: Doesn't mean they're better than the Dodgers or the Phillies or the Cubs or the Brewers or the Braves.
[SPEAKER_01]: It might be behind all of those teams.
[SPEAKER_01]: But even if they are, if they can outplay Arizona for two months, they'll put themselves at least in a position to be in a postseason.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then they'll at least have a
[SPEAKER_01]: with Michael King and Robbie Ray, if they're healthy in the postseason, you'll at least have a shot in a wildcard series with those two starters at the front of your rotation to begin the postseason should they get there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Alright, so Robby Ray in the books, what comes next for the Podras?
[SPEAKER_01]: We have heard so many names tied to them, including Jackson Holiday.
[SPEAKER_01]: at one point the top prospect in baseball and a former number one overall pick.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that would be a massive name where he to move from Baltimore to San Diego.
[SPEAKER_01]: Then you're hearing names not near of the caler, but Mickey Moniac, who's had a good year, the Alfielder for the Rockies, who's from San Diego, and he himself was a former number one overall pick, all the way back in 2016.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's Rafi devours with the giant, so though at this point, that seems unlikely considering they just made a move with the giants and it didn't include devours and are they really in position to take on $200 million salary when they didn't want to take on or didn't just take on $8 million salary from robbery right for this year.
[SPEAKER_01]: So those are just a couple of names.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, there's some outfielders to keep an eye on, large new bars name has come up certainly.
[SPEAKER_01]: I should honestly have a list in front of me.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like I consume so much and I see so much and I think I'm reacting to it in real time and then something slides under the radar that I'm missing.
[SPEAKER_01]: But there are still a lot of names is the point.
[SPEAKER_01]: There are still a lot of names that the podgers, I think are a link to or would like to land.
[SPEAKER_01]: And now the question is also like, how do the podgers offerings compare to other teams around baseball, what they're able to offer for some of the players that they're seeking?
[SPEAKER_01]: So clearly they had enough to land someone towards the top
[SPEAKER_01]: of the starting pitcher category.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, a rental, but in terms of one of the better available starters on the market, they had enough and their system to do that.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they didn't move having an earth.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, obviously, they're not moving Ethan Salus for a rental, but they moved their number four and number nine started.
[SPEAKER_01]: They didn't move to their top three or four of their top five.
[SPEAKER_01]: They moved two of their top ten.
[SPEAKER_01]: Some would say it's steep.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think others would say, well, you are landing Robby Ray in that deal.
[SPEAKER_01]: And one of those top 10 prospects is an even 18 years of age.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it isn't even playing stateside right now in June, Neil Hernandez.
[SPEAKER_01]: But they acquired a, again, a high ceiling starter.
[SPEAKER_01]: from their system, the 30th rank system, which leads me down a path that they could acquire a left-handed hitting out filter or a starting pitcher to pair with rain king towards the back of the rotation for less.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like if you go out and get Mickey Moniak right now, and if you go out and get another one of these starters that we've talked about over the last 48 or 72 hours that isn't Robbie Ray, that could all be accomplished, you would think with,
[SPEAKER_01]: you know, a trio of top 30 prospects potentially from within your organization.
[SPEAKER_01]: So there's certainly enough capital in order to execute on something that now how much bigger can they go than that maybe remains to be seen but then again.
[SPEAKER_01]: How much bigger are they going to go I guess they they go a lot bigger if Jackson holiday was a move that they were actually seriously considering or Baltimore was seriously considering moving him.
[SPEAKER_01]: But it doesn't mean Jackson Holley is coming to San Diego because the podgers have checked in on him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We should mention the fact that they could still move someone off their majorly roster.
[SPEAKER_01]: See, I will checking in on Mason Miller, according to the beat writer for the Mariners within the last 20 or 30 minutes, again, that would surprise me.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you're more home, we knew it was linked to the Yankees as recently as last night.
[SPEAKER_01]: That would be less surprising, but I still think surprising.
[SPEAKER_01]: If he were to move, then you got a whole another grouping of relievers that could absolutely be traded.
[SPEAKER_01]: The Wondy Paraltos, the Yuki Matsui's, again, you're dealing with some injuries as well in your bullpen.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you're probably not, you know, going to trade away a player that's not fully healthy right now.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not on your 26-man roster.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I think there's options other than more hone and Miller that the
[SPEAKER_01]: Before 3pm, some of the other, like the big swing ideas that we've talked about this July, for example, like the idea of Xander Bogart's moving, or I don't know, Jay Kronoworth or
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, someone else of the size of a salary.
[SPEAKER_01]: I find that it's very unlikely right now.
[SPEAKER_01]: It just doesn't seem likely that that's your first order of business.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like you're trying to address a need in real time.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then you're trying to get the Android away of his no trade clause.
[SPEAKER_01]: And what does it deal like that look like?
[SPEAKER_01]: That's probably a conversation for another day.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is my point.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's likely for like 2026 offseason who knows with the CBA lack of a situation.
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe it's the 2027 deadline.
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe it's the 2027 offseason potentially.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, potentially dangled out there as well if you're a J-proiler.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know if this would be a straight line as my point like this straight line is you just make four additions.
[SPEAKER_01]: You have Robbie Ray, you had a number five starter, you had Mickey Moniac, maybe you address your bench, you know, a 259 was some addition that nobody expected or defensive replacement or a speed guy that comes off your bench that could have value as a September guy or in October.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you make it, that's a straight line.
[SPEAKER_01]: The like non-strait line would attack a deadline.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like you had Robby right and they're like, oh, and you try the daydream more home.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, and then you added two outfielders.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, and you added a reliever.
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, the net result there is going to be a buy, but it looks a lot different than just buying.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like they did last year.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're like they did in 2022 or 2024 or even 2020, when they turned over like eight or nine players on their major league roster.
[SPEAKER_01]: during that COVID season.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's where things sit right now.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's where things sit right now, two and a half hours until the trade deadline, Padre is having added Robby Ray.
[SPEAKER_01]: You knew they were doing something today.
[SPEAKER_01]: You didn't know of what significance, how big they would swing.
[SPEAKER_01]: This I would call a big swing.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, this was a significant swing from Preller and the organization, probably as big
[SPEAKER_01]: On a day like today, considering the overall state of their organization, it was never going to be scoobled.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, holiday would be a massive swing as well from Baltimore.
[SPEAKER_01]: If they were able to acquire him, but for the time being, this is a significant addition.
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, there is a risk to it.
[SPEAKER_01]: He is a rental.
[SPEAKER_01]: They've given up a pair of prospects that can hurt along the way, but these are size.
[SPEAKER_01]: So this is, excuse me, a sizable addition here for AJ Preller and the Padres.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, all right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Anything else to get to over the last handful of minutes before we get out of here?
[SPEAKER_01]: We've been here for about an hour.
[SPEAKER_01]: got another three hours coming up at 3 p.m. then another hour plus tonight following Padre's Diamondbacks.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah there's baseball.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's baseball.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's coming tonight game one of that four game series between the Padre's and the Diamondbacks Michael King by the way pushback that worked out well since the Padre's won yesterday.
[SPEAKER_01]: They've won eight of nine taking care of business.
[SPEAKER_01]: And now AJ, probably trying to take care of his part of the bargain and conversation as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just a last check here in terms of what's playing out in real time
[SPEAKER_01]: Brewer was acquiring Dustin May that was an aim linked to the podgers as recently as he asked today.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the Brewer's dealing with saying Lewis for Dustin May.
[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously a very familiar name to podgers fans.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's having a good enough year.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the type of starter I thought the podgers would be potentially interested in.
[SPEAKER_01]: They actually shot higher in landing Ravi Ray who's had a much better year.
[SPEAKER_01]: than Dustin May, but I thought someone like May and still think someone like May could eventually land here as well between now and 3pm, but there's been a lot of moves that really have been and I'm expecting another dozen or two dozen more around baseball over the next two and a half hours.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we've got you covered.
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[SPEAKER_01]: In 2026, and then again, back with you tonight here on at the wrap-up show following Padres and Diamondbacks game 1 of the 4 game series.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that was just a real time set-ops of where we are, just talking off the cuff for an hour about the trade deadline and the addition of Robbie Wright.
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