[UNKNOWN]: the challenge specialists are back from their really long hiatus and neither of us were on the original challenge coverage, but nonetheless challenge specialists, McKenna and Alex are here to cover this season that challenge cutthroat
[UNKNOWN]: Um, and we're excited.
[UNKNOWN]: John, normally will also be with us as well, but um, you got a little preview of Alex over on bitter or better.
[UNKNOWN]: Um, but he, he is actually a challenge coverage vet.
[UNKNOWN]: more than John and myself are, but yeah, so we decided, you know, let's do it, let's bring the challenge back to the specialists.
[UNKNOWN]: And especially because Michelle is kind of a main stay, we have Cassidy, Chris Underwood, Sydney, like we've got a lot of bangers on this season of the challenge.
[UNKNOWN]: So Alex, welcome to Pod.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm happy to be here.
[UNKNOWN]: Like you said, um, I would never call myself a vet, but I'll let other people speak on my resume for me.
[UNKNOWN]: I will always allow that.
[UNKNOWN]: But yeah, so like I sort of took like a leeroy version of our retirement after season 40.
[UNKNOWN]: I was like, like, like, gone the way I just didn't have the time to do the podcast.
[UNKNOWN]: And I watched 41 and the one day I kept thinking about as we were going through 41.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm just like,
[UNKNOWN]: Dang, I wish I was covering this.
[UNKNOWN]: It's like, this is the season I've been waiting for because I started my first podcast was total madness.
[UNKNOWN]: So season 35, podcast is from 35 through Battle dearest, which for all of you that are survivor people that are tuning in, I too, keep wanting to call it winners at war.
[UNKNOWN]: I'll dearest.
[UNKNOWN]: So like I went through
[UNKNOWN]: a time during the challenge where people who know me I tend to be more optimistic.
[UNKNOWN]: I'll get very bold and very real takes.
[UNKNOWN]: But I'm an optimist for this show.
[UNKNOWN]: I really love this show.
[UNKNOWN]: It's very different to what you'll get from survivor.
[UNKNOWN]: Big brother.
[UNKNOWN]: I guess you sort of get into the traders in a little, in a sense of like, you have these people that come time and time again, and you get to grow with them.
[UNKNOWN]: And I think that's like something that's very unique about the show as opposed to any other reality competition show that you're looking for.
[UNKNOWN]: And if you ever worry about, like, shenanigans on the challenges, like, oh, everything can't be by one second.
[UNKNOWN]: Don't worry, the show is labeled a reality show, not a competition show.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, we will have high drinks into showmances galore and we are ready for it.
[UNKNOWN]: So we're just going to get into the cast a little bit here and Talk about the theme cutthroat isn't a new theme to the challenge.
[UNKNOWN]: They have done it one season prior in season 20 So we'll go in for what we know about the previous season what we've
[UNKNOWN]: heard a little bit of the current season and yeah, so let's get into it.
[UNKNOWN]: I have a little PowerPoint here and then, you know, we'll we'll get her going so it's cut through and we'll go with the challenge vets first.
[UNKNOWN]: So Johnny banana is our first one.
[UNKNOWN]: I ordered them between gender and then most decorated.
[UNKNOWN]: So Johnny bananas is going to be our...
[UNKNOWN]: longest season most win male on the season.
[UNKNOWN]: His first season was Real World Key West.
[UNKNOWN]: He has done 23 main challenge seasons with seven wins.
[UNKNOWN]: He's appeared in 11 finals, but he has a 50 50 elimination record with 30 overall eliminations insane.
[UNKNOWN]: And then I think it's biggest thing with coming back to this season that I, I don't think I'm excited for, but his longest standing clip is banana backpack and if you haven't seen that before, please go look at that clip now Lego even made a version of this clip, but essentially CT who will get to next.
[UNKNOWN]: wears him as a backpack because of the rig and after he comes in as a mercenary and cutthroat.
[UNKNOWN]: So he kind of got rocked the first cutthroat season and now is back to play the second cutthroat season and man, you're a banana boy.
[UNKNOWN]: So please, I'm a banana man, that's true.
[UNKNOWN]: Ironically, is the reason why I became a challenge fan.
[UNKNOWN]: Which is funny enough because my first challenge season was the come back of battle the seasons which did not have it on it, right, but I watched that season it was fine, I ended up going back and I started watching like seasons that were close to that time, so I ended up watching rivals and exes and I see this guy who's just bombastic does what he wants doesn't care if the whole house is against them or not.
[UNKNOWN]: he does care, but for the sake of TV does not care, but plays big, plays bold, also a pen stator like myself.
[UNKNOWN]: So I was like, this man is who I have to follow every single time.
[UNKNOWN]: So as much as I love CT as well, I was like, I can't root for CT because he's against my boy bananas.
[UNKNOWN]: And you know, I'm going to put some respect on the banana backpack moment.
[UNKNOWN]: It was very close to the final.
[UNKNOWN]: Replayed clips.
[UNKNOWN]: It's the most replayed clip he can laugh about it now.
[UNKNOWN]: Like he will make merch about it.
[UNKNOWN]: Probably if he hasn't already, but.
[UNKNOWN]: He was getting ready for the final.
[UNKNOWN]: He was dropping down weight.
[UNKNOWN]: He was thinking he was facing his real-world cast made in Tyler.
[UNKNOWN]: And they had CTs as riled up in a cage out in the Soviet Union with the Czech Republic eating raw meat and babies before.
[UNKNOWN]: putting him out there to then go against the person who he despised the most in Benanas.
[UNKNOWN]: So there was a lot of things that had to go wrong for Benanas to be taken out.
[UNKNOWN]: And it's also a fun fact, which I didn't realize to how I was rewatching the season.
[UNKNOWN]: This is the first time they ever did mercenaries as a twist in the challenge.
[UNKNOWN]: And I think that sort of like a game changer here, whoa, survivor reference.
[UNKNOWN]: Um, if this did not work because Tina was the other, uh, mercenary, got rocked by both the players that were in the game, and CT doesn't beat bananas here.
[UNKNOWN]: We don't get all those other iconic mercenary moments that happen for out time.
[UNKNOWN]: They're going to be like, up, this is a waste, scrap it.
[UNKNOWN]: We're not doing this ever again.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but the speak on this season very quickly because we have a lot of people to go through.
[UNKNOWN]: I think this version of a season
[UNKNOWN]: would be Benana's best chance to get his A-F win because of the fact that this is a team for an end.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, they're forced to work with him, rather than him being the heel and your opposition.
[UNKNOWN]: He's a good challenger, strong and daily use.
[UNKNOWN]: He's just overall a beast at the challenge.
[UNKNOWN]: And if he's on, you don't want to eliminate that because then when it comes to the final, you want that workhorse.
[UNKNOWN]: And I don't think he's ever, in a final,
[UNKNOWN]: Complained been like I can't do this like he he's always just taken the bull by the horns and gone after the final.
[UNKNOWN]: So you want that eye on your team.
[UNKNOWN]: The his biggest.
[UNKNOWN]: opponent is himself because he can't get in his own way of making a TV moment or if he sees even the size of someone like not liking him, he will amp it up to a million.
[UNKNOWN]: And if it's within his own team, the issue with this season is depending how the teams are shaped up, which later on this podcast, we have the expected teams.
[UNKNOWN]: We don't know how they were made, but it's rumored
[UNKNOWN]: You could be in a situation where there's a lot of people that can do very well in the final.
[UNKNOWN]: And if your team loses and has to put someone in, they're going to be like, Benaz is great.
[UNKNOWN]: He can do great in the final.
[UNKNOWN]: He can do great in the daily's.
[UNKNOWN]: But can we stand being around him for the entirety of this stream, I'm sure, and he just keep putting him in.
[UNKNOWN]: And there's other reason, too, like we can move to the next person on your slide with C-T-T-S.
[UNKNOWN]: So CT is just behind him by a couple of wins on the main show.
[UNKNOWN]: I want to perhaps the main show because you have yours.
[UNKNOWN]: All staffs are basically all stars.
[UNKNOWN]: You have your all star seasons.
[UNKNOWN]: You have the spin-offs, the celebrity additions.
[UNKNOWN]: Like, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: CT is a couple behind him.
[UNKNOWN]: He's tied with Jordan now with five.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, Jordan tied him with five.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: CT could want bananas to be gone so that he can get one more win closer to bananas.
[UNKNOWN]: Like, and CT is someone who has a chip on shoulder.
[UNKNOWN]: So I can do this stuff for you.
[UNKNOWN]: His original season was real world Paris.
[UNKNOWN]: This is his 22nd season, which considering his band from the show that back then he's only one season behind been Anna's is pretty impressive.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's five wins, ten final appearances.
[UNKNOWN]: And he also has a 50-50 record.
[UNKNOWN]: The issue is people are so scared of him.
[UNKNOWN]: They've only been in there 14 times.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it was a mercenary in the first.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it was the mercenary in the first cutthroat season.
[UNKNOWN]: The banana's backpack moment and you have dad CT now with his CT pro tips that he's been doing last couple of seasons.
[UNKNOWN]: I personally think they're corny, but it's a challenge.
[UNKNOWN]: So it basically, it's like CT pro tip, don't do that thing that you just did.
[UNKNOWN]: All right, great.
[UNKNOWN]: But CT is one of my all-time favorite challengers.
[UNKNOWN]: He is just so fun.
[UNKNOWN]: He is a kind of everything you want in a
[UNKNOWN]: pretty much everything physical.
[UNKNOWN]: Now, this is dad bod CT. We have seen so many different versions of CT.
[UNKNOWN]: It's insane.
[UNKNOWN]: Currently, dad bod CT, but still.
[UNKNOWN]: he'll be surprised what he can do and then he is it can be volatile so that he can cause the drama in the house and a bunch of people love drama with their reality TV.
[UNKNOWN]: So CT is good for that.
[UNKNOWN]: He's also just so kind and endearing too where it's like
[UNKNOWN]: Challenger or great reality TV personality.
[UNKNOWN]: Also, um, if you're like, man, I've seen that face before traitors, uh, one of the traitors with Trishel and another has been on some indie movies.
[UNKNOWN]: But CT overall has looked at that as this big bad boy, you don't want to see him in an elimination because you're sure to lose obviously, you know, seven people have beat him, but he just is like feared in elimination and he uses that tactic like you're going to throw me in, why are you going to throw me in?
[UNKNOWN]: I'm just going to, whoever you put me against, so just save yourself the trouble.
[UNKNOWN]: And what's good about CT and how he plays a game because I think his strategic game gets very discounted because people think of him as like the brash, like out.
[UNKNOWN]: I'll not, I'll crack your skull and eat your brains.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: But there's a wise strategy within his mind, especially as he has gotten older, where he outsmarks the challenges, he outsmarks the players.
[UNKNOWN]: But the one thing he does very well as opposed to bananas is, CT doesn't need to be the poster.
[UNKNOWN]: CT doesn't need to be the leader.
[UNKNOWN]: CT's very fine with just chilling.
[UNKNOWN]: And letting things happen because he's like if I can just fade myself back and let bananas and Cara and all these people just like be allowed in front of me people are going to forget about me or if I'm in my dad bought version like people aren't going to be threatened by me so as long as I'm not an anchor to the TNM
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not going to go down.
[UNKNOWN]: So the positive about CT for this season is while he may still be in semi-dat by mode, there were a lot of videos game posted before they allegedly went out to Thailand of him and him in the gym.
[UNKNOWN]: There was a lot of podcasts out there about how
[UNKNOWN]: The worst thing that 41 did was reawaken like the beast inside where he now again has this chip on his shoulder and that CT is a dangerous CT because if he's coming in and already in the mindset of getting back in shape, we have seen this time and time again with him after his.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, the 35 with total madness, he was dad bod CT get beat by the DJ and then is like, oh, wait, comes back, cuts a, cuts a bit more wins and then cuts even further for the next season and wins again.
[UNKNOWN]: So I mean, I feel like we could see that because he got like rocks in 41 of like, oh my gosh, CT is big.
[UNKNOWN]: And then now if he's he's cut down a bit more and then even still next season, I mean, we could see that pattern happen again with CT for sure.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, his biggest obstacle is just coming to that realization, which I think he has now of you can't do what he did when he was in his 20s and 30s of coming with a little more fat on him like sort of like the survivor strategy of like you come in with more fat on you and then as the season goes on you let that sort of burn and burn off and burn off to the point where you get to the final and you're in great shape.
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, he can't do that anymore in his 40s or maybe not to the same degree.
[UNKNOWN]: So if he has figured out a balance there, look, CT is one of the best challengers period and the story.
[UNKNOWN]: He's right up there with bananas in terms of daily respect, his puzzle strength.
[UNKNOWN]: Like, he's going to be such an asset to a team if they're willing to just like, cooperate.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so let's go to the next man, and it is Brad, his OG season is real world San Diego 2004.
[UNKNOWN]: He's done 12 seasons has won win four final appearances.
[UNKNOWN]: His elimination record is six win seven losses.
[UNKNOWN]: His winning season is actually the OG cutthroat.
[UNKNOWN]: So he is coming in as a challenge champ for cutthroat, which is awesome.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not the biggest broad fan, but that would be so cool to get that, you know, bookend a bit because he's had a rough go of the challenge, the last few seasons that he's played.
[UNKNOWN]: And then he also came in as a mercenary in season 39, battle for a new champion.
[UNKNOWN]: because he is a champion they had to to become a champion you have to beat a champion and one of them was Brad.
[UNKNOWN]: He has decent connections with bananas and CT, but I feel like of the three, they'd let Brad go.
[UNKNOWN]: I feel like he's not as tight with the OGs and he's not tight with the new people too.
[UNKNOWN]: He's just kind of there, which is his biggest,
[UNKNOWN]: he'll in any challenge that he does.
[UNKNOWN]: He never has like his tight group of people that he can really sore through the challenge with and a lot of the challenge is based on relationships and not necessarily all physical ability and I think Brad is just kind of gonna be there and then
[UNKNOWN]: When I say I'm not a fan, I don't mean like I dislike the person right, but I'm not a Brad fan when it comes to the challenge because I still think even after all these years, he doesn't truly understand the challenge.
[UNKNOWN]: Like does this man have hard, absolutely?
[UNKNOWN]: Is he a physical beast at his age still?
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, like we, I see him train.
[UNKNOWN]: Like he, the dude's great.
[UNKNOWN]: One lose the beard, lose it.
[UNKNOWN]: He brought in all stars and he's at least trimmed it a little bit.
[UNKNOWN]: This is a bit.
[UNKNOWN]: It's a little picture.
[UNKNOWN]: I saw a picture recently from a, like one that like challenged Mania events that just happened.
[UNKNOWN]: Like this weekend.
[UNKNOWN]: do was clean shaven.
[UNKNOWN]: And I was, does this mean, look, look, this is a sports thing.
[UNKNOWN]: Does this mean he wins?
[UNKNOWN]: And it's like, I'm going to grow the beard until I get a win and now I shave it.
[UNKNOWN]: Or they could bring back the fly swatter elimination from Cuthra, where they came in and made them shave.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh my god.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, I need that.
[UNKNOWN]: I need that to happen.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
[UNKNOWN]: Here's, here's why I need to happen.
[UNKNOWN]: They bring that child back.
[UNKNOWN]: They make him shave and he loses.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh my god.
[UNKNOWN]: I need it.
[UNKNOWN]: But he has hard.
[UNKNOWN]: He's great at like the physical sense, but I think sometimes he thinks he's more of a leader than he really is.
[UNKNOWN]: Because he doesn't really take other people's feedback.
[UNKNOWN]: It's more of like, why are you not listening to me?
[UNKNOWN]: I know what I'm doing and then they lose and he's like, oh, I guess I didn't know what I was doing, why didn't no one tell me.
[UNKNOWN]: And I'm like, I just need this man to be a little more accountable and like aware of what's happening around him.
[UNKNOWN]: And he's going to sit back and think that like just because he's good at the daily or something that his team is not going to go in a minute.
[UNKNOWN]: He doesn't have the friendships this time around that he did in cutthroat.
[UNKNOWN]: They're original cutthroat.
[UNKNOWN]: So I think he's going to struggle.
[UNKNOWN]: I agree, but he's also not going to drag his team down, so like he might not be the first or second vote off his tribe tribe.
[UNKNOWN]: Whoa, team.
[UNKNOWN]: Um, but I swear I know that we're going to get this survivor out of you.
[UNKNOWN]: What would be wild though is in the original cutthroat, Heathrow's Brandon in over and over because he's the least connected.
[UNKNOWN]: And then what he's the Brandon is, is the Brandon.
[UNKNOWN]: And you kind of gets his come up.
[UNKNOWN]: It's a little bit from the first season.
[UNKNOWN]: So,
[UNKNOWN]: it could be.
[UNKNOWN]: This is what I want to tell you.
[UNKNOWN]: The challenge people and you need to buy into the challenge because karma does come around on this show often.
[UNKNOWN]: Today, amount that it's scary, how often you see it come back and haunt you.
[UNKNOWN]: We just gave you like three separate things for
[UNKNOWN]: All right.
[UNKNOWN]: Let's go to the next person.
[UNKNOWN]: Next, we have four more than OG season is real world explosion.
[UNKNOWN]: He has ten challenges and under his belt no wins, but four final appearances.
[UNKNOWN]: His elimination record is 11 and five.
[UNKNOWN]: This won't really play much into effect anymore, but just it's a backstory on Cory when he first started coming up in the challenge.
[UNKNOWN]: part of the young bucks alliance that usually goes against the big name.
[UNKNOWN]: So he's been at bananas and CT.
[UNKNOWN]: He wants them gone.
[UNKNOWN]: But now since he's more of a vet, he's kind of lumped into that icon status a bit more.
[UNKNOWN]: So maybe he doesn't want bananas out.
[UNKNOWN]: But also now it's the teen challenge.
[UNKNOWN]: So you don't want to go after your teammates, even if they are heavily decorated.
[UNKNOWN]: And then he holds the record for most daily wins in a season with eight, which is wild.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's sort of crazy.
[UNKNOWN]: His pedigree for like, I'm once again the new sports.
[UNKNOWN]: I know the specialist people know their sports, but the fans at least.
[UNKNOWN]: He's a regular season player.
[UNKNOWN]: Like, dude, it's great in the regular season.
[UNKNOWN]: And especially as he's gotten older and figured out, like, what back he needs to be a little more, not dot-sile, that's why I was so wrong-word, but like, more agreeable to like the bets.
[UNKNOWN]: Like, you see him have more conversations with bananas and stuff like, even though we've seen what happens, like we see what happens on like, when they all came on CBS's USA season two,
[UNKNOWN]: There's still a lot of victory all there between all of them because Corey is now in this stage where he's like, I'm going to agree with everyone.
[UNKNOWN]: But then also not want to get my hands like dirty because I'm going to betray someone because I keep just like reading to everything.
[UNKNOWN]: But he has gone better.
[UNKNOWN]: Like he's gone better as he's gone on.
[UNKNOWN]: He says his weak points of puzzles anything with your brain, but
[UNKNOWN]: He has been runner up multiple times.
[UNKNOWN]: He's been third place, multiple times in those files and appearances, and with good partners for a couple of them.
[UNKNOWN]: Like he ends up with Cam, I think in the most his most recent finals showing that wasn't CBS related.
[UNKNOWN]: And there were clothes.
[UNKNOWN]: There were clothes to be eating CTN Amber, but,
[UNKNOWN]: I think a team format is actually the thing that he's been needing this whole time.
[UNKNOWN]: And I hate them saying this for a lot.
[UNKNOWN]: People will be like, 10 specifically, I'm like, if he can get to the end with a team, that he can do a lot of the physical stuff, if you're looking at a puzzle, this dude's gonna be there six months later, still not understanding how to solve the puzzle.
[UNKNOWN]: If you have at least one person there that has like semi-competent puzzle skills, this do can help you get to the finish line.
[UNKNOWN]: I have never really been a core fan.
[UNKNOWN]: I have always thought like he's never going to win a challenge.
[UNKNOWN]: But then as I was going through a stat, I was like 11 wins and only five losses.
[UNKNOWN]: That's, I mean, that's not that bad of a record at all.
[UNKNOWN]: I think it's mainly because his last few times out he just kind of slipped and slipped and slipped and so you're kind of left with almost like the Tony game changers approach of like oh he went out early, but I think here he can he can soar a bit maybe in this team format, but
[UNKNOWN]: I wasn't, I wasn't all that impressed with battle, you know, what is it, battle of the eras, yes.
[UNKNOWN]: Because he just, he felt like just a number, he wasn't making moves, he knew he was on the bottom, wasn't doing anything about it.
[UNKNOWN]: Um, and he just wasn't as good as his rookie season.
[UNKNOWN]: His rookie season, he came out with a bang with his cousin in bloodlines and just like hit the ground running, they made the final and were close to winning.
[UNKNOWN]: And I think it just hasn't gone up a lot from that where I'm like, I'm expecting this young
[UNKNOWN]: He does now have more of that kind caring, he's a father, which he wasn't in the beginning of his challenge career.
[UNKNOWN]: He, you know, every time he talks about, you know, seeing like talking about his kids and he's looking through all of his photos before an elimination before a challenge that always gets to me because it's just like he's so sweet with his kids and everything like that.
[UNKNOWN]: I just don't know how much I believe in his challenge ability.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I, he, as he's gone older, he's become more of a passive player, so that aggressive player, young buck style, um, it helps with longevity, it doesn't help with actually securing the win for him, um, also, which is one last note before we move from him.
[UNKNOWN]: So when they did the reveal of the cast, one, you could very much tell, very AI-generated, like, blurbs for each one, under Cories, which I think it's very interesting, we're not gonna touch this up like today, we can do it on a different day.
[UNKNOWN]: They called him the best challenger to never win.
[UNKNOWN]: That's crazy, that's the same to never win.
[UNKNOWN]: All right, I'm like sure, I guess pop off, but like I, he's not offensive to be on a season.
[UNKNOWN]: Like he is he is a good competitor, but there's a lot of people who are good competitors that can't get the win.
[UNKNOWN]: If he can't get a win this season, then I will like officially stamp down this man cannot win a season of the challenge period and the story.
[UNKNOWN]: Like, that's my thing with Lee Roy of he has played in like every version of the challenge pretty much, I guess not a theme, but like, I just don't think he is good at playing.
[UNKNOWN]: USA, USA versus the world.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I just don't think he's cut out to win a season of the challenge.
[UNKNOWN]: same with Nani, like Nani gets very close.
[UNKNOWN]: She has been a runner up multiple times, but she's been through every single rendition and just can't do the final thing.
[UNKNOWN]: Like, I would put both of them over Cory easily for never-win, but my mouth rush more than never-winners.
[UNKNOWN]: Also sort of a bad title to have.
[UNKNOWN]: Why would I want to have the title up the best to never-win?
[UNKNOWN]: Hey, you could be Serrido.
[UNKNOWN]: I guess he can get his plaque, but I don't know what the fire, I guess it would be like a little nature hall brawl.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Like, here, here's your rock and bock and speaking of.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, I'm so sorry.
[UNKNOWN]: All right, we're going into Nelson Thomas now.
[UNKNOWN]: His OG season is R U the one season three.
[UNKNOWN]: He's been on nine seasons zero wins.
[UNKNOWN]: But two final appearances is elimination record is nine six and one draw, which is like the only draw to ever happen.
[UNKNOWN]: Very rare.
[UNKNOWN]: One thing that is big about Nelson, he hasn't been on the challenge for a while because he suffered a severe accident, leaving his leg amputated from the knee down.
[UNKNOWN]: He is also best friends with Cory, like he is uncle Nelson to his or uncle melody.
[UNKNOWN]: to Corey's kids.
[UNKNOWN]: And he also holds the record for most consecutive daily challenge losses with 54 throughout all of his seasons.
[UNKNOWN]: His final season that he was in before, Ryder dies.
[UNKNOWN]: That's when he finally won a daily challenge.
[UNKNOWN]: But
[UNKNOWN]: He's the first amputee now to be on the challenge.
[UNKNOWN]: So that's going to be an interesting.
[UNKNOWN]: Is it?
[UNKNOWN]: Wait, is he not the first amputee?
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, would you consider Jordan with his hand?
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, I guess, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: But that's...
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, Jordan would consider himself the expert.
[UNKNOWN]: And we go very technical.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, I don't know, I guess the definition of the M. U. T. birth the fact or Well, here, it's still a historic thing to see.
[UNKNOWN]: First Challenger without two legs.
[UNKNOWN]: There we go.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
[UNKNOWN]: Someone tell us in the chat if we're wrong.
[UNKNOWN]: um okay so um yeah so let's talk about Nelson a little bit here um he came out and almost beat CT in his rookie season and not rookie season in in his in one of his earlier seasons yeah it was his second season and based on the champions
[UNKNOWN]: Um, and I, like, uh, I've always been on the, the big boys team, so I was never rooting for Nelson because I was rooting for bananas CT, you know, because they're the mainstays, um, and then Nelson goes and throws himself into elimination for Corey and total madness and I ball my eyes out.
[UNKNOWN]: Because Cory was the one going in, and then Nelson was like, I'm gonna do it, you go to the final.
[UNKNOWN]: And it was just like so heartwarming to me.
[UNKNOWN]: And then he just gradually like increased for me as a character, not necessarily as a challenge competitor, but like I was never like, oh, Nelson.
[UNKNOWN]: you know, he just is like again, a little bit better.
[UNKNOWN]: I think I feel like I'd rather see Nelson than Cory sometimes, but then he puts his foot in his mouth.
[UNKNOWN]: So it's like, it's really hard with him sometimes, because he had that whole issue with Anisa and Ashley, I think, one season and
[UNKNOWN]: We were rubbing everything off of 30, 30 because of the altercation with Derek Sinski.
[UNKNOWN]: Yep, look, the dude's a goofball.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm very curious what this version of Nellity.
[UNKNOWN]: We get because this is now, obviously, posted the car crash, the DUI, essentially, and look, a lot of people are going to have a lot of thoughts about him for being back on the show post that, but the way I'm looking at it and the way a lot of other people are looking at it is, he went for the court system.
[UNKNOWN]: There was a ruling, like he has done the work in terms of the legal side of things.
[UNKNOWN]: So I'm like,
[UNKNOWN]: It's not up to me whether or not we put them back on TV.
[UNKNOWN]: I would say Paramount sees a value in what Nelson can provide to the show and we haven't really touched on it.
[UNKNOWN]: This is the first season that's not on MTV.
[UNKNOWN]: It's not associated with MTV anymore.
[UNKNOWN]: It's exclusively moving the Paramount Plus.
[UNKNOWN]: There's value there.
[UNKNOWN]: He's someone who will never win this game.
[UNKNOWN]: If he is in terms of his pedigree and history, he has a Stephanie Lagrosa of the challenge.
[UNKNOWN]: Get him off your team because you're not going to win a daily and be safe with him on your team.
[UNKNOWN]: What is one though now?
[UNKNOWN]: He's, well, the history says bank on the loose.
[UNKNOWN]: The history says bank on him the loose, but I'm very curious to see his headspace going to this.
[UNKNOWN]: What has he learned during this time where he's had to overcome?
[UNKNOWN]: and learn how to use a prosthetic, how the train have a live your life day-to-day has it, like just changes overall mindset to life in general.
[UNKNOWN]: So are we getting like a more like comma version of Nelson coming into this season?
[UNKNOWN]: Or is he still just, you know, same old Nelson going to be goofy, going to get into a fight at some point?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: You can see.
[UNKNOWN]: We'll see.
[UNKNOWN]: All right, we're going into our group of one time players.
[UNKNOWN]: They, the next few guys are have all competed only on last season, season 41.
[UNKNOWN]: So, sadric is OG season was big brother 26.
[UNKNOWN]: which I actually covered that season of Big Brother here with Blake, which was great to see it like a familiar Big Brother face for me.
[UNKNOWN]: And then so he's been on the one season zero wins one final appearance his elimination record is 2 and 0 daily wins is 2 and he finished season 41 in third place I have high hopes for sadrick this time around because I think he's going to be a beast he's
[UNKNOWN]: He never really got thrown into elimination in the sense of we he's smaller.
[UNKNOWN]: We want to go against him.
[UNKNOWN]: It was just kind of this the situation of it all, but they were never like he's an easy beat.
[UNKNOWN]: Let's go for it.
[UNKNOWN]: I fear for this man this season.
[UNKNOWN]: Really?
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, because of his not because of his ability,
[UNKNOWN]: A lot of times in your first season, based off how you do, I've like, I've received his ode, like the following season, with him specifically, a big part of his game was letting people assume and underestimate his abilities.
[UNKNOWN]: uh like people thought he couldn't swim so he like sort of leaned into not being able to swim like had people giving him swimming lessons just to go on and win a swimming challenge or do very well in a swimming challenge like I think a lot of people are going to be coming in thinking this man put one over us I
[UNKNOWN]: We ain't letting that happen again.
[UNKNOWN]: We're gonna be putting you in.
[UNKNOWN]: And he hasn't really had the face at type of diversity in the challenge.
[UNKNOWN]: Like obviously he went out very early and his big brother season.
[UNKNOWN]: But I just think he's gonna have a lot more adversity this go around.
[UNKNOWN]: I wonder where they would have actually placed had Michaela's ankle been solid.
[UNKNOWN]: Not destroyed.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, not in shambles.
[UNKNOWN]: Granted, she still had to deal with the elevation gain with the mountain and everything like that.
[UNKNOWN]: But I don't, I think it would have been a lot closer of a battle between for second and third with... That's gonna say, I think it's a battle for second.
[UNKNOWN]: Still, but they could have overtook Sydney and Turbo at, you know, their pitch point.
[UNKNOWN]: Same thing.
[UNKNOWN]: So like I wonder, you know, he could be finished in second place or he still might be third, but overall, I think he's going to probably get thrown into a few eliminations and come out of them being like, all right, and now what?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, like I think what goes against him is especially with how some of these challengers will think when it comes to putting someone in, they're going to look at him see that he's like generally when I say smaller, I mean shorter, like smaller guy.
[UNKNOWN]: That's not that's not an asset to our team.
[UNKNOWN]: We're going to put him in and if we lose him,
[UNKNOWN]: Oh well, we lose him, but they could be considering him almost dead.
[UNKNOWN]: Wait, you know, I wouldn't think that.
[UNKNOWN]: I think he could be very good in a final.
[UNKNOWN]: I think he has a lot to still prove, but I think in terms of gameplay, he has nothing to prove.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's just now how do you come into the following season where people know your trick.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he could be like, I'm a big dog and then be like over, you know, you can't touch me blah, blah, blah, blah, but then he's like, he's only done once one season.
[UNKNOWN]: He, you know, has tested in all elements he's been tested in one season's elements and done well.
[UNKNOWN]: Now, we're going over to Justin, his OG season is cheer.
[UNKNOWN]: He's been on one season, zero wins, zero final appearances, elimination record, one win, one loss, and has had two daily wins.
[UNKNOWN]: He was kind of the underdog of the season.
[UNKNOWN]: He was thrown into the very first elimination against Rogan, who is a lot bigger of a guy than he is.
[UNKNOWN]: because Rogan wanted an easy beat and Justin beat him and sent Rogan packing first.
[UNKNOWN]: And then the last season had a twist of steak a claim where you would battle someone for their partner, someone chose to battle Justin also way bigger than him.
[UNKNOWN]: And
[UNKNOWN]: Justin came out on top to defend his partner, and he is that underestimated beast.
[UNKNOWN]: But at the same time, we saw Justin in a physical elimination against
[UNKNOWN]: You're overall even killed character stat.
[UNKNOWN]: She has very high peaks and very low valleys, I think, where if he gets a ball in elimination, he's not going to do well in it.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: He has that.
[UNKNOWN]: like potential of being someone who gets voted in a lot if their team loses a lot but that doesn't mean that he's necessarily going to just like go and go out like he shows that he can figure it out and get it when and be a little scrappy um
[UNKNOWN]: He has a good social game, like even though he struggled early, but like I think he has a good relationship with a lot of like the women on this season.
[UNKNOWN]: And I think he did prove himself that through the first season.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Like so like it wouldn't be an aspect of he comes in the second time round and that's being like, oh, you still need to earn your stripes kid.
[UNKNOWN]: Like I think he's earned them.
[UNKNOWN]: It's just gonna be, if he's on the wrong team make up, it's just gonna be like one dose.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, we're not going to put all of us in, it's going to be you.
[UNKNOWN]: So it's going to be, can he figure out how to get the majority of people to not put him in?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and there were eliminations in the first cut throw.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I would be related, if we saw some of these back, like, die all of them.
[UNKNOWN]: I know, like die hard, where you're standing on a cube, and you have to get it from one number to another number on to a platform.
[UNKNOWN]: We've seen this also in Big Brother with the giant, you know, hamster ball kind of cubes.
[UNKNOWN]: And that's something easy that he can be nimble and move
[UNKNOWN]: you know, the die around and he's smart and can figure out the puzzle, but we've also had, you know, backup off me with the banana backpack, which he would then be the, you know, Justin backpack of so it would be like whether he catches the right elimination if he goes in.
[UNKNOWN]: Absolutely, but there's upside there and he's going to be someone who will be in the middle of it.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: And entertainment wise.
[UNKNOWN]: He just good confessional will get in drama like not afraid to speak their piece.
[UNKNOWN]: So.
[UNKNOWN]: One thing that I am worried about is Justin and Will's relationship with think is not next.
[UNKNOWN]: Um, will, um, he, they had an altercation that the day will went home.
[UNKNOWN]: Um, where they were like, oh, so a way, are you going to send us in and they just in a nanny had to think for a second and will was like, well, that shouldn't have been a thought.
[UNKNOWN]: You should have said no because I'm your day one.
[UNKNOWN]: Um, and then I have a relationship with nanny.
[UNKNOWN]: So like, you should be voting for another team.
[UNKNOWN]: Like, why are you taking time to think?
[UNKNOWN]: So then Will will did Justin and Nani into a elimination and they voted Will into a elimination.
[UNKNOWN]: So I think if the tension is unresolved between Justin and Will, that could you know, be an issue within the house, but other than that.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, depending on the team make up there, because as much as, because I think Will
[UNKNOWN]: mixed in terms of people like on people don't like them, but in terms of like house perception, I think a lot of the challenges really like will.
[UNKNOWN]: So if there is an instance where they come in and there is an issue, I think they're going to be more people who side with will at least initially over just in which could put Justin in hot water.
[UNKNOWN]: But we shall see.
[UNKNOWN]: All right, we are going with Leo next.
[UNKNOWN]: His OG season is Love Island, USA5.
[UNKNOWN]: He has had the one season, no wins.
[UNKNOWN]: Zero final appearances.
[UNKNOWN]: His elimination record is one loss.
[UNKNOWN]: He's had two daily wins.
[UNKNOWN]: And Sydney, with her partner, took him and his partner out in elimination.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, any sort of a bad ass for that.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, it's true, but that could be I probably not because it's like everybody takes people out in elimination, but it's something of note because Sidney's in the house.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, Leo, I'm actually very happy that they brought him back.
[UNKNOWN]: I found him very riveting in the challenge more so than he was even in Love Island.
[UNKNOWN]: I know Love Island he was a mess, but in this, I liked his approach.
[UNKNOWN]: I sort of like he was the closest thing we were game to like young buck energy over and like was very gun-ho on like
[UNKNOWN]: We are going to make sure that newbies are in contention to win the season.
[UNKNOWN]: We're not going to just play the veteran's game.
[UNKNOWN]: And with this reignition of that energy does it reignite Corey and Nelson back into like their old ways or something of like hell.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's our turn.
[UNKNOWN]: We want the wins.
[UNKNOWN]: And like again,
[UNKNOWN]: It's possible what I would really hate is if Korean Nelson goes to him be like, look, kid, we love your energy.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, when they say kids, they're probably like a few years apart.
[UNKNOWN]: We'd be like, you really need the tone this down.
[UNKNOWN]: If you want to, you know, ride the wave and get close to a final.
[UNKNOWN]: And if they do that, then they're dead to me.
[UNKNOWN]: And they can lose and go home.
[UNKNOWN]: But Leo, I think,
[UNKNOWN]: could get in his own way.
[UNKNOWN]: It's not the first time we've seen him get in his own way.
[UNKNOWN]: He will be in the center of some sort of drama at some point.
[UNKNOWN]: But I would just love to see him be able to back it up in elimination when it really happens.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: And for Blake, who just tuned in, yes, they put Nelson in this one and know they did not drag and Lisa into this one.
[UNKNOWN]: Lisa finally is getting a season off and we all say thank you.
[UNKNOWN]: Um, yeah, Leo, it is a hot head, but at the same time, he backs it up in daily, is at least, um, but yeah, like in the course in Sydney and turbo and elimination, and it's really hard when
[UNKNOWN]: the two people you're going against are like some, you know, puzzle genius who like, he's like Rayman with puzzles.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: And then Sidney is a physical beast also great at, like, overall taking, you know, personal things out of turbo.
[UNKNOWN]: He is a beast of a challenger
[UNKNOWN]: eliminations or in daily is not necessarily the final as it was shown a little bit in this last final, but yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: But the last button point for Leo is, and this is a thing for all the newbies are going to be on this season.
[UNKNOWN]: Leo went out and tried, but he didn't just sit there and it was like, I'll just play the veterans game.
[UNKNOWN]: And hopefully they let me all pass long enough to like get closer and make little more money by staying longer and like no, he was like, I'm going to play bold.
[UNKNOWN]: If it gets me, it gets me, but he's going to play his way.
[UNKNOWN]: And it may not work for a long javity on a season, but it's going to work on being cast.
[UNKNOWN]: for a long time with the anesthesia.
[UNKNOWN]: Unless something happens, who knows?
[UNKNOWN]: This is a channel, Dr. All.
[UNKNOWN]: Now we've got Will.
[UNKNOWN]: He was on, are you the ones he's nine?
[UNKNOWN]: He competed in the last season of the challenge.
[UNKNOWN]: No wins.
[UNKNOWN]: He was made it just short of the final.
[UNKNOWN]: He has won elimination loss, one daily win, and Cedric was part of the duo that took him out in elimination.
[UNKNOWN]: with the the twist where you can stay could claim, um, somebody stuck a stuck a claim, stayed to claim on his partner.
[UNKNOWN]: So he and he lost.
[UNKNOWN]: And then so he now was partnered with someone new for their first challenge, which happened to be in elimination.
[UNKNOWN]: So there's a disconnect in chemistry there for that elimination.
[UNKNOWN]: And also they were shoved in an airplane bathroom.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so with Will, I, the reason why I enjoyed Will while watching 41 was it brought me back.
[UNKNOWN]: that you could have put him on the original cutthroat and he wouldn't have missed a beat.
[UNKNOWN]: Like that was like, it was giving OG reality television vibes of like the 2010s, so I was like, oh, this, this dude was just put on a different decade.
[UNKNOWN]: Same thing though, but I think that's why a lot of the veterans really enjoy him.
[UNKNOWN]: And a lot of the people that he potentially could have had issue with aren't on the season.
[UNKNOWN]: Like he hooked up with
[UNKNOWN]: every single woman that he hooked up to some level degree with over the course of 41 and post 41, aren't on the season.
[UNKNOWN]: Indeed, in Nani, in Anisa, they're all not here.
[UNKNOWN]: So, you know, new opportunities for Will.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I was just going to say who's going to be the Will's new buddy here.
[UNKNOWN]: And see, I don't know the relationships that some of the lot of these people.
[UNKNOWN]: So who knows?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he's just a beefy boy that what will last far because they're like we need him for daily's we'll need him for the final they he clearly was in well enough.
[UNKNOWN]: that nobody wanted to send him in.
[UNKNOWN]: He was kind of forcibly sent in and he was even up for a coin toss the time he got sent in.
[UNKNOWN]: So it'll be interesting to see how he navigates the season and then with the addition of, you know, people nominating within teams to send people into elimination.
[UNKNOWN]: Does he get hit with, you know, just the lack of relationships?
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, it's that's going to be the ultimate thing of it and like does he find himself in a brand in style situation where his team loses and they're like, well, you can be a heavy hitter for us and take out the other teams, like, and risk it.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: Like if he's on a team with a lot of like vets, which I don't remember with the last side shows or teams.
[UNKNOWN]: So we'll find out, but depending on the team, make up he could be that person who gets consistently from down, he'll be pissed off about it.
[UNKNOWN]: And either will be so pissed off, he goes home or so pissed off that he beats them down and then has to fight his own team and following night.
[UNKNOWN]: So yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Now moving in to the vet ladies kicking it off with car Maria her OG season was actually the challenge it was fresh meat to where they brought in a crop of Nobody's and made them a challengers so she has done 17 seasons of the challenge to wins nine final appearances with 14 wins in seven losses in elimination.
[UNKNOWN]: Um, she won the first one winner final against two men competed as a mercenary and lost against Michelle.
[UNKNOWN]: Um, in season 39.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, this is a different,
[UNKNOWN]: break up between her and Polly.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know the exact timeline there, but this is also poster leaving 41 early due to the passing of her mother.
[UNKNOWN]: Since then, she was also on one
[UNKNOWN]: 99 to be okay.
[UNKNOWN]: I was going to be right, but I was scared to say it and be wrong.
[UNKNOWN]: So thank you.
[UNKNOWN]: But she's been on that.
[UNKNOWN]: I would say we have seen her grow on the challenge.
[UNKNOWN]: And I think one thing in particular is like her relationship with a lot of the women on the show.
[UNKNOWN]: I think she has a lot of people coming back on this season, who grew to like respect her more throughout season 40.
[UNKNOWN]: So she could have some allies there.
[UNKNOWN]: She obviously has CT in the house as like her rock.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, they are awesome of it all.
[UNKNOWN]: Hi, as tight can be, Car Maria and CT are always in lockstep, but then she has Johnny Bananas who constantly wants her out once or out once or out.
[UNKNOWN]: Additionally, Cara also competed in the first cut throw.
[UNKNOWN]: It was her second challenge ever.
[UNKNOWN]: She was first boot from Freshmeat II
[UNKNOWN]: a boyfriend.
[UNKNOWN]: So she's single now.
[UNKNOWN]: Is she going to find her new Abram?
[UNKNOWN]: Look, we just talked about Will.
[UNKNOWN]: Hey.
[UNKNOWN]: But with Cara.
[UNKNOWN]: She's also someone who's not unfamiliar with eliminations.
[UNKNOWN]: Like, she is fairly great if we're being honest.
[UNKNOWN]: Like, she was a 14, seven record, most notably like during her season of free agents, where she won multiple eliminations with a broken wrist.
[UNKNOWN]: I want to say a hand fracture, something along the science where she had a cast and only ended up losing to Laurel
[UNKNOWN]: punch a hole in the wall and climb it.
[UNKNOWN]: And she really only had one hand to do it.
[UNKNOWN]: And she even as she has gone older, she's still a threat in finals.
[UNKNOWN]: She was most, most recent final, obviously was almost on in the challenge 40 final was the runner up in the last all stars season
[UNKNOWN]: the beast is still there in her.
[UNKNOWN]: Her weakness is still.
[UNKNOWN]: It's going to be a puzzle depending on the puzzle.
[UNKNOWN]: we shall see.
[UNKNOWN]: She gets one of her weaknesses is being too in her head.
[UNKNOWN]: So she gets even though she can be still in elimination.
[UNKNOWN]: Sometimes she gets scared of them and doesn't want to go into elimination.
[UNKNOWN]: We see, you know, when you need to go into elimination to get stars or whatever, she waits to the last minute to go and do something about it.
[UNKNOWN]: So that is one thing that I think
[UNKNOWN]: While she has a prowess in eliminations, she also does get scared of them and doesn't want to go in.
[UNKNOWN]: She was looked at as the weak link of her first team, but she had, you know, the leader of the team being her champion and not, you know, getting her thrown into eliminations and
[UNKNOWN]: X, Y, Z.
[UNKNOWN]: So I think this season will she will be like her normal, you know, car Maria self rather than reverting back to anything that, you know, previous cut for it was, but I think, you know, just being in her head is going to be the worst part of this for her.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, like I think my upside for her is
[UNKNOWN]: if we could have a full circle moment where she was on the original cutthroat, she was being held close by like Abram to like blast a little bit there.
[UNKNOWN]: To come into this season and become like, you know, she's not like the official captain of the team being like a more of a leader presence to help like pick up her people.
[UNKNOWN]: Then I think you see that full growth arc of like the person everyone saw is the victim to the person that people of the US leader would be really cool to see.
[UNKNOWN]: Apparently Cara has posted a very direct video that she said you never has and never will hook up with will.
[UNKNOWN]: I think she also said we would see her hook on hookup on tv again dot dot, allegedly.
[UNKNOWN]: So yeah, I can see that, but for honestly I can do that she's like it's not me from car at this stage of her life Like just need to be going in there and hooking up with whatever moves like she's be in there locked into win the money
[UNKNOWN]: All right, Tori is our next challenge vet female.
[UNKNOWN]: She was from Ari the one season four.
[UNKNOWN]: She's done eight challenges with one win.
[UNKNOWN]: Five final appearances, elimination record of seven wins, three losses, and also has appeared as a mercenary twice.
[UNKNOWN]: Tori is a big pun intended deal.
[UNKNOWN]: only competing on eight challenges with five final appearances is insane a team format.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think Tori should ever see an elimination because unless you're like we have no other options and Tori has to go in because sometimes you just keep losing and then you know it's down to Tori is the last female or whatever it has to go in.
[UNKNOWN]: I think in a team format is going to be insane to get rid of because she is, you know, good at what she does.
[UNKNOWN]: And she was in my opinion, and a lot of challenges opinion, you know, the rookie of her, the rookie of the year, her first season, we have Sydney who was, she was
[UNKNOWN]: And she did finally, you know, get her win and now she can just kind of chill because she's not chasing that anymore, which is nice, but you know bananas is still here.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, like I'm very curious to see what their relationship will be like because no as much as a lot of them say like oh I really don't take it into the next season like a lot of them do it's always underlying in terms of like the tension.
[UNKNOWN]: Tori also actively took a break.
[UNKNOWN]: Like after season 40 happened, she was like, I actually need the step away from reality TV for a bit declined 41 state home, worked on herself.
[UNKNOWN]: Like so I'm hoping we see this 42 cut through version of her as like, okay, I was able to step away long enough and like I do feel comfortable in myself to like step back in because if she comes back in
[UNKNOWN]: They're like, and this is a respect to card, I know shade, this is the woman to be, like it locked in Tory is one the most round well rounded challengers.
[UNKNOWN]: that we have had in the series.
[UNKNOWN]: She can win easily.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, she does a couple at any point.
[UNKNOWN]: Like you were talking about earlier of like the main season, you know, you're good and then you get to, you know, the championship or the final.
[UNKNOWN]: And then you just kind of crumble and you can't get the job done.
[UNKNOWN]: Tori will get the job done in every era of the game.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: And like I think she comes in with a chip on her shoulder.
[UNKNOWN]: Like obviously she was the most tired of the finalists in season 40 because she had to do the the waiting and water challenge against car on a last like three plus hours.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, doing that.
[UNKNOWN]: And then you go into a final where it's majorly swimming.
[UNKNOWN]: and remove karma points from the situation like she was always going to be last in that group with how it was going.
[UNKNOWN]: So I think there's a chip on our shoulder to prove that she truly is one of the greats and can win another final that isn't just her and Devon paired up together.
[UNKNOWN]: Um, so like I think Devin not being on the season.
[UNKNOWN]: If she can come in work with the people And he said like she doesn't have her main people aside for Olivia's not here.
[UNKNOWN]: Like there's a lot of people that she's good with that aren't here.
[UNKNOWN]: She is going to be her number one because of Devin.
[UNKNOWN]: And honestly, she has tomorrow.
[UNKNOWN]: That's true, too.
[UNKNOWN]: Like I think they ended season 40 on like incredible terms of each other.
[UNKNOWN]: So I think like the three of them, because I believe Michelle's next on here.
[UNKNOWN]: They're going to be like I think very helpful for each other.
[UNKNOWN]: But I'm very excited to have her back.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: All right.
[UNKNOWN]: Let's go into Michelle obviously the specialist favorite challenger.
[UNKNOWN]: She is from just don't look at her winter ranking.
[UNKNOWN]: She's done four seasons of the challenge, zero wins, one final appearance.
[UNKNOWN]: She has a five and two elimination record.
[UNKNOWN]: She beat Kara in the battle for a new champ elimination, and she would have gotten second place on season 40 without the karma points, again, karma points kind of shifted the
[UNKNOWN]: Michelle has always surprised me on the challenge because she's thinner and small, she doesn't, she's not like muscle built out, like Cara is small, but Jacked Michelle is fit, but
[UNKNOWN]: then beasts, Cara, you know, she make whatever she lacks in Bruce muscle, she makes up in brains because the elimination she'd be Cara in was moving a bunch of big heavy blocks and then doing a puzzle with them.
[UNKNOWN]: And so while Cara destroyed her in moving the blocks, Michelle then was able to complete the puzzle with ease.
[UNKNOWN]: So I think Michelle's social game as we know is impeccable and she makes it deep into the game because she just runs the house socially.
[UNKNOWN]: Now she has a few other survivors that aren't Jay in the house, which could potentially listen to her.
[UNKNOWN]: I think this could be a really great season for her.
[UNKNOWN]: So, she's also previously played with both Chris and Cassidy before because of USA to we'll get to them, but obviously we're not counting that in stats, but.
[UNKNOWN]: But even with that every single season she's been on, she's basically improved her placement.
[UNKNOWN]: like every single season.
[UNKNOWN]: And so by that metric, she's supposed to win this season.
[UNKNOWN]: If she was going to get second and like when I say like she got second on the challenge for you, like if one of the
[UNKNOWN]: like checkpoints where she doesn't crash and burn and get fourth place like if she literally I've been got like any other placement on that she starts out before karma points in first place like I think it's really close between her and Jenny which is just the go-to-show like people are always gonna underestimate her but
[UNKNOWN]: As long as she can choose to believe in herself because that's her weakness outside just not being a bigger person is she which is funny because with her Tory and Cara their main weakness is they get in their own head and despite the talents that they have they're like oh I'm not good enough like I have in posture syndrome being here when in reality none of them should because they're all bad asses in their own way yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: her social games impeccable.
[UNKNOWN]: Her political game has come to match her social game.
[UNKNOWN]: She's willing to cut anyone, even though she'll cry doing it, but you know, that's Michelle.
[UNKNOWN]: She's now been dating Devon for like a couple of years now.
[UNKNOWN]: Like I think like Dev, we're going to see Devon on this season folks.
[UNKNOWN]: Like we're going to see him at the very very minimum in a phone call giving advice.
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, if it's not her, it's going to be Tori, like dead.
[UNKNOWN]: So like her and Tori are going to be very close.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, like I truly think she has everything in in her toolbox to succeed.
[UNKNOWN]: Again, another person who like can you squash the silly shit with bananas?
[UNKNOWN]: Because if you can, there's a very dangerous combination of people that can come together and just
[UNKNOWN]: And I love how the every everybody we've talked about is can they squash their beef with bananas bananas we see in the poster it's all about bananas that's true folks yeah I'm I'm always happy with Michelle on my screen so I am oh have high hopes for always.
[UNKNOWN]: Speaking of another person who has an issue with bananas, so we have northeast her OG season is are you the one season six, she has had three total challenge seasons, no wins, but one final appearance her elimination record is three and two, Nelson was her writer die for season 38, they were in lockstep partners throughout the majority of the season, and then
[UNKNOWN]: Her biggest claim to fame for me is she won two three-person eliminations.
[UNKNOWN]: One, she was up against two of the you know best rookies or they weren't rookies at that point.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think.
[UNKNOWN]: No, just two of the best competitors and then another group of two of the best competitors Olivia winds up
[UNKNOWN]: last season.
[UNKNOWN]: She goes, uh, Narees goes in elimination against Olivia.
[UNKNOWN]: She goes in against her, uh, I guess, ex-boyfriend now, um, but like, Narees was the smallest in
[UNKNOWN]: both eliminations and completely crushed them.
[UNKNOWN]: And it was, it, she's just insane for what she can do and shocked me because I saw her.
[UNKNOWN]: I want to say on X on the beach with Nelson and I was like, oh, she's doing the challenge.
[UNKNOWN]: Like, no shot.
[UNKNOWN]: And then she goes out and just destroys.
[UNKNOWN]: I think she's going to get looked at as being the smaller person on her tribe and might get thrown in a decent amount, but then she's just going to be like, can you guys stop throwing me in?
[UNKNOWN]: I'm just going to win and if you're trying to get rid of me before the final good luck.
[UNKNOWN]: They're also very individual and not had the head physical.
[UNKNOWN]: Correct.
[UNKNOWN]: Because it's what we repeat, if we repeat certain, and Andy in the chat is calling you out, and I love that we're having a accountability in the chat.
[UNKNOWN]: on these teams, not, not tribes, but you can't do it throughout the entire coverage everybody, look how for tribe.
[UNKNOWN]: But with all that being said, like she, if it's more physical like more the cut-road eliminations or OG cut-throw eliminations, she's going to have a hard time because she's smaller, but she's perfect casting, like when she was on, are you the one?
[UNKNOWN]: That was when we started seeing are you to want people filtering into the challenge for a first time?
[UNKNOWN]: I was like, well, if this is how the show's going, Noris is an auto cast because like, she has the personality, she has to fire.
[UNKNOWN]: She's not afraid to fight with people.
[UNKNOWN]: Like, there's so much that is great about her.
[UNKNOWN]: It's just that issue is that she's so tiny that she can't really back it up physically, but really good in the final.
[UNKNOWN]: If it was a one guy, one girl wins.
[UNKNOWN]: She's the girl that wins the final.
[UNKNOWN]: Like she was, it wasn't close between her and then whoever came after her.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: And now, she's fighting with bananas.
[UNKNOWN]: Because bananas on the podcast was,
[UNKNOWN]: throwing shade at her in her osteo over their fight, their public fight with Bono Murray and the challenge over her osteo's elimination in season 40.
[UNKNOWN]: It's the speculation of why she didn't get a call for season 41.
[UNKNOWN]: But she's been pretty loud about it online and saying like how if she was coming into the season, she's gonna be targeting bananas because of it.
[UNKNOWN]: All I can say is if you're going to make those swings, you better connect, you better connect early or you're going to have a hard time.
[UNKNOWN]: The interesting thing is I wonder how there, how in a recent Nelson's relationship will be throughout the season.
[UNKNOWN]: And if one of them will be on blast because of the other one, because they haven't played the seasons since they were a team together.
[UNKNOWN]: So it would be, I wonder if either of their relationships within the house affects the other one socially.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, like I think they're gonna rock
[UNKNOWN]: I tend to believe Narees will do a lot more to try to protect Nelson than Nelson will to protect Narees.
[UNKNOWN]: Not because he doesn't want to, but just because that really isn't his skill set.
[UNKNOWN]: All right, now we are moving into the season 41 vets now their vets, but season 41 rookies and we're talking about Adrian married at first sight UK.
[UNKNOWN]: She's done one season of the challenge no wins, but she had a final appearance.
[UNKNOWN]: She had, she used four wins and zero losses in elimination, but no daily wins, um, they de-cute on day two of the final for being too far behind, but as, I just, I just, I just watched the final.
[UNKNOWN]: That was an hurtful.
[UNKNOWN]: And it wasn't hurtful.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, no, the, the de-cuting on the second day actually was, but because she had to do all the work the first day, but, um,
[UNKNOWN]: They weren't necessarily too far behind, they were just beaten down and exhausted to where, like, if they, they took too many breaks and everybody, it just, they were, they were gasped and I think Adrian could be a pretty good competitor in this season, but I just don't see her team making it far with her.
[UNKNOWN]: because of she'll gas out in the final.
[UNKNOWN]: It'll be that we're looking down the road, we're looking down the road, but then she's gonna hang around because she is proven to be great in eliminations.
[UNKNOWN]: So it'll be like, do we really want that person with us in the final?
[UNKNOWN]: No, let's throw them into elimination, maybe they get voted out.
[UNKNOWN]: eliminated.
[UNKNOWN]: And I swear I have seen every season of the challenge twice.
[UNKNOWN]: She has.
[UNKNOWN]: I can vouch for this.
[UNKNOWN]: We're on a survivor channel.
[UNKNOWN]: I get it.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: But um, I just don't know her long devity with people fearing for the outcome in the challenge.
[UNKNOWN]: See, if you were like just going based on like not knowing who these people are,
[UNKNOWN]: And you're just watching through the first time or you've watched like challenge really far back in the day.
[UNKNOWN]: You wouldn't have told me that you just described big easy.
[UNKNOWN]: I know, but I didn't I did.
[UNKNOWN]: You essentially described her as big easy, and I'm like, I don't think that's true, but no, because like I get I get it all, but it's like.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's not the same, but it's the same.
[UNKNOWN]: And it's like, what I'm curious how the seasonal star because like OG cutthroat started with her race, like they came home, ran or to the elimination place because we aren't going to laugh at use that word in today's times, but.
[UNKNOWN]: And she's like, last there, like, is she going to be looked at the way that like, Oh, she cut for a castle that shaman, I don't think Adrian deserves to be like that disrespected by the cast, but it's the concert.
[UNKNOWN]: in fresh meat too.
[UNKNOWN]: We're landed, brought her to the win, and she won the challenge, but she was an unexpected win.
[UNKNOWN]: Like I think Adrienne has all the upsides of Carly and could get that win, but she had, but because of the final performance,
[UNKNOWN]: that drops her down.
[UNKNOWN]: I think she has a lot, a lot of tools in her belt to be able to get the win, but just knowing from previous seasons, it's like, oh, can we win with her?
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: Right, but I'll say of the returning women from last season that were rookies.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't look at her being cats.
[UNKNOWN]: It's like, oh, why her?
[UNKNOWN]: Like, I told her, I totally understand her being cats again and seeing like, what do we have with her?
[UNKNOWN]: Higher season, thrown into four eliminations.
[UNKNOWN]: And now she doesn't, she's not attached to Theo.
[UNKNOWN]: I do think her social game is going to be better.
[UNKNOWN]: I do think, you know, not being tied to Theo is going to just skyrocket her a little bit better in the house.
[UNKNOWN]: Um, so I, I truly understand why they cast her and I'm excited to see, you know, in a kind of, it is single, but team situation, how forms where you're not like competing with one person, it's like your ability within the team.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, because of the three new women.
[UNKNOWN]: Sydney who we're going to talk about a little bit isn't auto like how I drank them like Sydney's an auto cast she proved herself.
[UNKNOWN]: She was great in confessional confessional gangsters everyone was calling her but like she backed it up with her performance as well.
[UNKNOWN]: So like no matter how Sydney does this season if she flops she's still gonna get a call.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, not she says yes.
[UNKNOWN]: Adrian, I think it's like just a tear below where it's like she did prove a lot.
[UNKNOWN]: She was able to hold her own.
[UNKNOWN]: She was a decent confessionalist.
[UNKNOWN]: Like I think this season's more of a like can we get like a tiny bit more here and depending how far she can get into this season.
[UNKNOWN]: I think then she becomes someone who can get randomly getting the call.
[UNKNOWN]: Then this person if we want to move to them.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't understand.
[UNKNOWN]: All right, so we have Izzy.
[UNKNOWN]: Her OG season is two hot to handle.
[UNKNOWN]: Three, total challenge seasons.
[UNKNOWN]: One, zero, zero, one loss, daily wins, zero.
[UNKNOWN]: She entered a showman with the first person who was eliminated and was eliminated shortly after that.
[UNKNOWN]: Like, she, I don't know why Izzy is here, but I guess,
[UNKNOWN]: You know, if we're we've been harkening back on the original cutthroat is she the Karima Ria of this like the last season to see you know everybody's gonna knock her down knock her down and say that she's bad but can she you know outperform and or does she have someone championing her to stay in but everybody said Karah was weak in cutthroat one are they gonna because she was out first she didn't have the relationships is is he gonna get
[UNKNOWN]: Treatment because she was out rather early in 41.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, like I think this is a big.
[UNKNOWN]: They view her as like, we saw her floor, the floor is low.
[UNKNOWN]: Like the floor is low where it's like her boot episode was like, here's all the things that she did wrong.
[UNKNOWN]: Like that was the episode.
[UNKNOWN]: It was like, oh, she already has most of the bets looking at her as someone they don't want to trust and move for a win.
[UNKNOWN]: She then burns all the rookies because she goes and tells Olivia information.
[UNKNOWN]: So Leo and Sidney and all them are like, no, she's cut off.
[UNKNOWN]: So you have both sides of the aisle all converging being like, you know what?
[UNKNOWN]: Let's just vote is he in and then she goes in and doesn't do a good job in the elimination either.
[UNKNOWN]: So now it's like, can she figure it out because there's pieces there?
[UNKNOWN]: Because she was willing to be in the drama.
[UNKNOWN]: She was willing to hook up like she
[UNKNOWN]: So it's like a low floor, but now they're like, let's determine you're sealing.
[UNKNOWN]: So if she has a big stay on a big impact on this season, she then skyrockets and becomes so in that they want to keep bringing back or at least give that third chance to.
[UNKNOWN]: I think if she comes in and flops again.
[UNKNOWN]: She's out.
[UNKNOWN]: Last we hear her.
[UNKNOWN]: And that's a lot, that's the last we hear for this episode.
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you.
[UNKNOWN]: We're going to just be, um, holily cow, like I have, I feel like I've, it's rare that I am impressed.
[UNKNOWN]: with a rookie this much as I am Sydney because she should talk the entire time and then backed it up always.
[UNKNOWN]: So her original season survived 41.
[UNKNOWN]: She is done one season.
[UNKNOWN]: She appeared in the final.
[UNKNOWN]: They placed second her elimination record is 1-0 and she's had 4 daily wins, but the biggest thing is she made the house scared to throw her in.
[UNKNOWN]: She intimidated everybody with her physical prowess, the 4 daily wins is insane.
[UNKNOWN]: And I just think she is all around like what is she bad at
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, really?
[UNKNOWN]: Like, she leaned more on her partner for us.
[UNKNOWN]: Because her bow was like, I'm doing this back off.
[UNKNOWN]: I think Sydney could do the puzzles, but I think Turbo was mainly like, I'm doing this.
[UNKNOWN]: Because she did the, like, the Rubik's cube kind of looking Suduko one in the final.
[UNKNOWN]: But Turbo was definitely like I know how to do this.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to just take over.
[UNKNOWN]: So I think she's definitely like good at puzzles.
[UNKNOWN]: Is she turbo?
[UNKNOWN]: No, but like she's not bad at puzzles either.
[UNKNOWN]: Give her a puzzle and she'd probably be able to do it.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, like I'm very excited to your back a quickest retirement out retirement in a challenge history, probably.
[UNKNOWN]: Congrats Lee Roy.
[UNKNOWN]: You have been different.
[UNKNOWN]: But
[UNKNOWN]: Because she was basically like, I'm one and done here.
[UNKNOWN]: Like, I, you know, she's a wolf girl.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, it wasn't necessarily fully the challenge.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: Like it was turbo, then the format and how the challenge works and time.
[UNKNOWN]: And then the time.
[UNKNOWN]: So now it's like turbo's not here.
[UNKNOWN]: It's a team season and it's shorter.
[UNKNOWN]: And I think she was like,
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, let's try she was like I can make this work and and like I know her fiance was like you should go and do this Um, she had the time the bank it up and like look we know our lawyers we're never seeing Evelyn again like I will take as much Sydney as we can get but I think this is also a Sydney that doesn't really have
[UNKNOWN]: Not like she went into the first season with anything to prove because like the one thing that makes her a great reality TV contest and it is like she already goes in thinking that she's the best thing that's ever happened to the earth.
[UNKNOWN]: So she already didn't have any proof she really doesn't have anything to prove here like there's there's a world where like.
[UNKNOWN]: If Turbo doesn't just like completely crash out in the final, they handedly would win.
[UNKNOWN]: That final against Olivia and Jeremy.
[UNKNOWN]: He'd be the way from the win or something like that.
[UNKNOWN]: But I mean, it was like this up a mountain.
[UNKNOWN]: But, right.
[UNKNOWN]: So in a world where he doesn't just like crash, they win.
[UNKNOWN]: Like Sydney comes in as a challenge champion.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, Sydney wins if it's individual, easy.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh yeah, yeah, like she so I don't know how she'll do this this go around like there I I'm shorter is going to be some people who feel a little more but hurt over like the things she would say in confessional and like in that regard I tell them to grow up but like that but this is a challenge and like someone could literally be like well you were talking shit about me.
[UNKNOWN]: a year ago.
[UNKNOWN]: So I'm going to vote you and keep playing you into elimination and like she's not invaluable.
[UNKNOWN]: Like she can lose something.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: We could see her go out early.
[UNKNOWN]: We could see her make it to the end.
[UNKNOWN]: Because I'm like, if they don't test her early and try to put her in elimination, there's no real reason to want to put her in elimination if you're on her.
[UNKNOWN]: All right, so now we have the challenge spin off where there are kind of challenge vets, but they're not going to be looked at as challenge vets this season, because USA too isn't even on a streaming platform.
[UNKNOWN]: So that's crazy.
[UNKNOWN]: That's crazy to think about that.
[UNKNOWN]: I bet on paramount plots.
[UNKNOWN]: You must say one is or like world champs is on but not USA USA too.
[UNKNOWN]: Anyhow.
[UNKNOWN]: That's crazy.
[UNKNOWN]: Cassidy Clark.
[UNKNOWN]: We all know and love her from Survivor 43.
[UNKNOWN]: She's been on USA too.
[UNKNOWN]: No wins, no final appearances.
[UNKNOWN]: But she's three and one in eliminations.
[UNKNOWN]: She's had four daily wins.
[UNKNOWN]: This was also a team season and she won an elimination against Michelle.
[UNKNOWN]: And made out with her.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, if we get that moment another time man, I was in bliss that episode, but anyhow, I think Cassidy is going to be a great quote unquote newbie rookie that I don't know what to consider her.
[UNKNOWN]: This season, she's overall is a solid,
[UNKNOWN]: member to have.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think she's going to drag any team down.
[UNKNOWN]: It's just what relationships does she have and are they good?
[UNKNOWN]: Because I believe from a small clip coming from the season, it was like, hmm, all my relationships are bad because everybody tried to throw me in.
[UNKNOWN]: So I don't know how socially she'll make it.
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe she does better because now some people have seen her face
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and it's also like in, in like a very like niche sense, she's sort of a Kara Maria type.
[UNKNOWN]: Or like she isn't your, your standard girl.
[UNKNOWN]: Like I think she's a little more like out there like the put it generally and like she's, she's an odd ball and I say that with love.
[UNKNOWN]: Like I think she's a great casting like the decision, the issue is,
[UNKNOWN]: That's going to put her in a situation where there's a reason she was put down four times and like her strategic like game wasn't really able to be formed in USA, so she kept getting thrown in.
[UNKNOWN]: She could fall in that same situation here.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: I hope she doesn't, but I do unfortunately see this season not necessarily going her way, but the next season she comes into could be very good for her.
[UNKNOWN]: But I just, I can't picture her making the final for this season unless her team just winds out the entire time.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: I think she depending on how they do the voting and all that.
[UNKNOWN]: If it's original cutthroat style, this next person, I don't have as much fear for, but there's like influence.
[UNKNOWN]: If there's influence from like other people,
[UNKNOWN]: These vets are all going to want him out.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and out early.
[UNKNOWN]: They wanted Jeremy out early last season.
[UNKNOWN]: Chris Underwood is going to be the same thing.
[UNKNOWN]: Obviously, edge of extinction, he did USA2 and won it.
[UNKNOWN]: He went in and be stood for eliminations and had five daily wins.
[UNKNOWN]: And he is just going to be someone you want on your team for sure.
[UNKNOWN]: the the record that he has winning survivor winning the challenge winning four eliminations like odds are if you throw him in he's going to win he has a perfect record so far with elimination so why even tied toy with that yeah and it's like as much as a winner the winner is a win when it comes to your elimination doesn't matter who you're
[UNKNOWN]: like competent competition in his eliminations, like he faced an in-shape West, like he and sent him into retirement.
[UNKNOWN]: For better or less, his issue is always going to be his strategic game because he's sort of tries to go out and do like these like hair brain ideas about really like getting any advice from others and it gets a lot of him and his allies in trouble.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, because he was in a decent spot prior to that moment where he was caught trying to like have his hand in both the cookie jars and that's where like we ain't having this we're gonna keep playing you in until you go home and unfortunately for them he didn't go home.
[UNKNOWN]: So I think that's the only issue he could end up facing on this season is if he tries to like
[UNKNOWN]: then there could be a moment where their team goes like I don't care how much of an asset you are like you are trying to play games with us and we're going to not have it.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean we are.
[UNKNOWN]: At least John and I are always pro Chris underwood.
[UNKNOWN]: More than.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know him on the challenge.
[UNKNOWN]: More than some other people, but so I'm excited to see what he can do on the main season and where it's like kind of looked at as, you know, he won a spin off so it's like.
[UNKNOWN]: He yes is a challenge champ, but they're like, they don't count CT as a six time challenge camp because he want to spin off.
[UNKNOWN]: So they're going to look at him as a rookie, but then be like, oh, we don't want him because he won a spin off kind of thing.
[UNKNOWN]: It's not going to work for him.
[UNKNOWN]: It's more often going to work against him.
[UNKNOWN]: And but I will say what's going to hurt him even more.
[UNKNOWN]: It's like even though it's a spin off and it doesn't count in that regard in that final he still beats Corey he still beats the nanas say like beat beat everybody that was their Tory Michaela like she beat everyone so they they all know what he's capable of and what's really cool about him in Cassidy is I don't find it a coincidence that the second MTV or
[UNKNOWN]: It's finally not MTV and it's now on Paramount that they get the call, like it's I like I do not find out a coincidence at all like I think now that Paramount is the home.
[UNKNOWN]: These are two people that could be here to stay and become regular on the show.
[UNKNOWN]: All right, going into our crop or rookies, I feel like we won't have much to say on some of them, but nonetheless, all right.
[UNKNOWN]: On your stripes, kids.
[UNKNOWN]: We're going to start off with Anneli.
[UNKNOWN]: She was in the amazing race 35.
[UNKNOWN]: She placed fourth.
[UNKNOWN]: She won two legs competed with her father.
[UNKNOWN]: They survived a U-turn, and she was also on the floor, but failed to defend her category.
[UNKNOWN]: It just to be on the floor.
[UNKNOWN]: I feel like you have to have some form of trivia skills.
[UNKNOWN]: So, I feel like her trivia skills, though she lost her category, are going to be miles above anybody, any challenge that for sure, because
[UNKNOWN]: Trivia is TJ's favorite challenge.
[UNKNOWN]: It is one of my favorite challenges and to be on the trivia game show takes guts and I feel like she'll actually she'll help her team if that does arise during the challenge
[UNKNOWN]: So I obviously, as you know, and the viewers will now know, amazing race is not in my bag.
[UNKNOWN]: I know nothing.
[UNKNOWN]: But I add some people who did watch amazing race and I was like, hey, this person's on the show, what can you tell me about her?
[UNKNOWN]: And the first thing, all of them said was, she's going to be good in the challenges.
[UNKNOWN]: Like, they said that she was a good competitor when it came to the amazing race.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know what that translation will be to corny games and and the challenge.
[UNKNOWN]: But like you know, we're all like pretty steady within the amazing ways she never stood out, but she never, you know, was toward the bottom, like she placing fourth is no small feet and then just like I feel like she was always middle, middle to high ground each time when, okay.
[UNKNOWN]: when they checked into the pit stop, there was no like, I think that could have been, you know, competing with her dad who's a bit older.
[UNKNOWN]: So if she was, say, competing with a sister or brother, then, you know, maybe she was, it could have been higher up.
[UNKNOWN]: But I'm not too sure about that.
[UNKNOWN]: She, I feel like is like, oh, Emily, like I remember her and writing down her name like 20,000 times
[UNKNOWN]: I was never like, oh, you know, who would make a great challenger, and Ali, what's her, what's her build?
[UNKNOWN]: Like, is she tall?
[UNKNOWN]: I can't tell from the picture, is she taller or short?
[UNKNOWN]: I don't, she's definitely not taller.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think she is super short.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, but if she's close to a Tory sized and there's a little bit more good prospect there because like if she was like short short, like then I'm like, oh girl, like she's gonna be put out of the nation and Or or Cara tiny, but I think she's closer in between like Tory Michelle range and me Michelle's also not that tall like I feel like none of the women.
[UNKNOWN]: on the season are super, super tall.
[UNKNOWN]: Like there's no lore on the season.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, there's potential for one coming up.
[UNKNOWN]: But this one, I also see her as someone that like, I didn't a lot of the people in the house are gonna have like an eye on her in terms of like,
[UNKNOWN]: But it's the beauty.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, yes, okay.
[UNKNOWN]: But then the amazing race of it all, like all the amazing racers, always get crapped on the entire time.
[UNKNOWN]: But they then also compete.
[UNKNOWN]: One, so, hey, but.
[UNKNOWN]: Three, one, I forget the girl who competed in the first USA season, but like she got like far and like, Kayla, yes, thank you.
[UNKNOWN]: I can see some upside in her, um, no, I think that's on the team.
[UNKNOWN]: I think she's definitely like mid, but I feel like she's going to lose in elimination.
[UNKNOWN]: She might win one elimination and then lose the next.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think I think her team is going to use her as a sacrifice.
[UNKNOWN]: So she's going to be selling who going in with very little knowledge on her where I'm going to be like she can be a 50 50 and she is a one and done or she's going to make some big statement on this show that people are going to like namely the producers and be like you are being brought back.
[UNKNOWN]: To early to tell.
[UNKNOWN]: Yep.
[UNKNOWN]: All right, so now we're going on to our love Islanders.
[UNKNOWN]: We have Deb, OG season, Love Island USA4.
[UNKNOWN]: She got third.
[UNKNOWN]: She was an OG girl on that season.
[UNKNOWN]: She also competed in the first season of Love Island Games, also placing third.
[UNKNOWN]: She came in day 12 and left day 17.
[UNKNOWN]: But I questioned this a little bit because she never was like,
[UNKNOWN]: You know, she doesn't seem like one of those, one of the love islanders that would want to be on the challenge to me.
[UNKNOWN]: Justine one two seasons of love island.
[UNKNOWN]: That makes sense to me.
[UNKNOWN]: Like why aren't we seeing justine on a main let's speak on that.
[UNKNOWN]: like we have Leo we had Johnny you know Deb just does not scream we're gonna go to Josh next but like Josh screams the challenge Deb I feel like maybe I can hear a whisper but it felt like an odd choice to me.
[UNKNOWN]: I feel like she's your like charisma higher
[UNKNOWN]: But, and I don't mean that in a bad way.
[UNKNOWN]: Like, yeah, I'm not looking at her thinking like, oh, she's gonna be this like physical piece and really strong in the challenges, but I do see her as someone who like, that's because see it's very likable.
[UNKNOWN]: And sometimes there's always that like one rookie who even though like they may not be like the best.
[UNKNOWN]: that you're like, but we like you.
[UNKNOWN]: So we're going to let you like stick around and not throw you into the pits like immediately.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: That's her potential upside.
[UNKNOWN]: I think I do remember what her team is though and because of that, I do fear for her if their team loses.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, next we're going to Josh is OG season USA 3.
[UNKNOWN]: He walked out on day 31 due to a family emergency.
[UNKNOWN]: Um, so he wasn't thrown out or kicked off or anything like that.
[UNKNOWN]: Um, he voluntarily left.
[UNKNOWN]: competed in season two of Love Island games was eliminated on day 14 out of 15.
[UNKNOWN]: And Josh won a duel against a much bigger guy, Charlie, for those of you who cross over between Love Island and the challenge.
[UNKNOWN]: And the duel was similar to like banded together meets Looper.
[UNKNOWN]: you challenge people who know elimination names, and I think he's going to be one of those, you know,
[UNKNOWN]: I think he's like an early CT right where he thinks he's hot shit because he is you know he's stocky he's you know built and he thinks he can be through everything and be that hot head and then I think he's just gonna flame out like he's gonna burn bright hot fast and then just go and he's gone.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, like, challenge build wise, like, if you want to make like a, like, this is a type of guy that would do something he's on the shorter side, but he's like pretty built out.
[UNKNOWN]: Right, but like it's like bananas, bananas isn't tall, but like I would say bananas always like especially once he got into like free agents era was like that was like the body type that does well in a final if you can get there, which is about getting there, because I definitely see him as more about hothead.
[UNKNOWN]: Like when you talk young buck energy, like he's going to be young buck energy of like I can be any of these people send them to the retirement home like I think he's going to be in contention for the guy side of like hooking up with people if there are people that are hooking up this season.
[UNKNOWN]: I just don't really have a gauge on him like I like I remember seeing him on what violent games and being like.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, like you're like a little interesting, but like not like oozing charisma for the screen for me.
[UNKNOWN]: I think what his thing is is in La Violin games he was buying for the, you know, the it girl.
[UNKNOWN]: and then kept losing the it girl, and he was pissed about it.
[UNKNOWN]: He wanted to be coupled up and partnered with her, and he kept losing her, kept losing her, and it's like finally, I'm with the best to the best, and then you know, gets sent home.
[UNKNOWN]: But.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
[UNKNOWN]: I just, it's so I do think that I think he gets a little hurt when, you know, his girl is wanting to, you know, explore other options or something like that.
[UNKNOWN]: So if he finds someone and she goes to onto the next, he's going to, like, not be happy if someone leaves Josh for will, it's going to be insane and I'm going to get the one
[UNKNOWN]: If someone leaves, leaves Josh for bananas.
[UNKNOWN]: Let me have a repeat here.
[UNKNOWN]: You just have to boil on this side.
[UNKNOWN]: You're like, I knew this was going to happen again.
[UNKNOWN]: I knew this was going to happen again.
[UNKNOWN]: We could see some chaos there.
[UNKNOWN]: I was like, you're going to be the hot head of the rookies.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and I would say his upside.
[UNKNOWN]: If he does well enough on this season and keeps his nose clean, to the point of being brought back, he probably has like hunter upside.
[UNKNOWN]: I can see that I would say that is very similar because Hunter is also kind of short, but he's built out.
[UNKNOWN]: I think he's very similar, very similar.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so let's I'm going to leave it there with him and we can move to his next person.
[UNKNOWN]: Hopefully he doesn't break his hand.
[UNKNOWN]: All right, we haven't seen someone this big walk through the door since vessel.
[UNKNOWN]: Y'all know is huge, and I think that's just gonna force him in the, you're automatically safe kind of situation, but because it's his own team voting him in and not
[UNKNOWN]: like and not other people voting him in and potentially them going against him.
[UNKNOWN]: I think his team could vote him in to be that, you know, shield if we think of physical eliminations coming in, he's just going to body the other person.
[UNKNOWN]: It's OG season.
[UNKNOWN]: Big brother 27.
[UNKNOWN]: Placement was fifth last in 77 days.
[UNKNOWN]: He has one HOH win.
[UNKNOWN]: He was nominated eight times three POV wins, two blockbuster wins.
[UNKNOWN]: He won fan favorite.
[UNKNOWN]: He's the first American house guest to veto off the block for three weeks in a row.
[UNKNOWN]: And he's the only male that season to win the power of veto.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, um, he spent the entirety of his time in the big brother house talking about how he won beyond the challenge.
[UNKNOWN]: So congrats buddy.
[UNKNOWN]: You're now in the challenge, um, earned your stripes.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, competition wise.
[UNKNOWN]: He could do very well because like, it wasn't just the physical stuff he was good at, like some of the blockbusters that he ended up winning were like more, uh, mental and more puzzle oriented.
[UNKNOWN]: So like, I think competitions he'll be
[UNKNOWN]: at least average on most.
[UNKNOWN]: His strategy game is bad.
[UNKNOWN]: His reads are bad.
[UNKNOWN]: So I watched like half one third of his season.
[UNKNOWN]: And I just remember his social game, just being non-existent.
[UNKNOWN]: No, it was not existing, he tried to be strategic, but because of his blind spots, I had to so many people who were actively against him.
[UNKNOWN]: Like, there was just no traction for him.
[UNKNOWN]: So like, I would need to see improvement there coming into this.
[UNKNOWN]: And I also think that despite him potentially looking like an asset, that because of that,
[UNKNOWN]: I think he's going to just be someone who gets thrown in.
[UNKNOWN]: Like I think he could be a Brandon on a team.
[UNKNOWN]: I think he also, we have to see if the muscles are muscles or popcorn muscles too, because I feel like the big brother challenges can not translate.
[UNKNOWN]: He won five challenges within his,
[UNKNOWN]: season, which is great, or six, which is great, but also big brother challenges are, you know, how far can I throw a ring, meanwhile, like can, can Kianu look the part.
[UNKNOWN]: and show up the way he does like you assume he is going to freight train through everything but then does he get gasped out immediately after so like you have to kind of test his his ability in the challenge because it is endurance not just brute force.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, exactly.
[UNKNOWN]: That's why if I was a vet, he's someone who I wouldn't be scared to put into elimination because like when I say like an earn your strike mentality, like this is where I would be like, okay, go down there, prove it to us.
[UNKNOWN]: If you can prove it to us, I'll rock with you.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: I know that you are about that life.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, well, like now that I'm talking about it, like maybe I do worry about him in a final where he might not have the endurance that we might think he does because he's just bigger.
[UNKNOWN]: Right, like I do not know anything about his cardio like obviously I know that the dude's strong is anything but.
[UNKNOWN]: Trying to only get you so far.
[UNKNOWN]: All right, we are going into Riley.
[UNKNOWN]: I really tried to find some more bullets here, but I don't have anything.
[UNKNOWN]: She was a big brother, 25, placed 15th.
[UNKNOWN]: She played 16 days.
[UNKNOWN]: She was the first HOH, and then proceeded to be the next one evicted the following week.
[UNKNOWN]: So
[UNKNOWN]: I even watched the season because that's a recent and I have no idea who she is and so that's why I thought it was an odd cast because if she was the second boot of the season she and I don't remember her and she was the first HOH usually you remember flame out HOH's but do you have any
[UNKNOWN]: Um, from what I can recall, she won something that in terms of big brother was more physical for the first HOH, um, I think she's fired a little bit while in the HOH and like made her alliance like pretty clear to the house.
[UNKNOWN]: To the point where everyone was like, oh, well, we should take her out then if she's already showing like she has these numbers that we're we're not real who knows.
[UNKNOWN]: But she ended up going home because of that and targeted over her other allies because of that.
[UNKNOWN]: She had a big advertisement for a podcast that never happened.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't understand the casting, but we have seen people who were early boots who ended up being punch out, saidric wasn't early boot on his season.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm pretty sure he was the third boot.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's true.
[UNKNOWN]: But he had, like I remember, saidric is the thing though.
[UNKNOWN]: But I would say the typical person may not have, though.
[UNKNOWN]: Like I think there was a good chunk of people who watched Big Brother who saw him on the couch.
[UNKNOWN]: It was like, let me remember who this person is.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: We'll say four and sealing are a mystery.
[UNKNOWN]: If she goes out early in this too, I act cheese on who I expect to be a one-in-done if she just comes in and goes out.
[UNKNOWN]: The issue with her also is like, she's fit that she is also a tiny girl.
[UNKNOWN]: Like, she's more of a nourries, like, hiding from what I remember.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and then in that case, then I feel like Narees takes her in the elimination and wins, you know, kind of thing, but.
[UNKNOWN]: Right, so she's going to be someone who could potentially go in a first elimination.
[UNKNOWN]: Now, letty.
[UNKNOWN]: Letty, I am so excited.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah, she's our tallest FEMA by far.
[UNKNOWN]: She's the laurel type I was referencing.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: It's a adult.
[UNKNOWN]: Dealer No Deal Island, placement second, she won three challenges, she was only in the bottom twice, but the way Dealer No Deal Island does the bottom, it's, you know, you could be in the bottom with two people or you could be in the bottom with five people.
[UNKNOWN]: Um, so uh, she played dealer no deal one time and survived made a great deal and she was the main opposition to quote, the family, which was the main alliance.
[UNKNOWN]: Um, and I'm excited that we have a dealer no deal.
[UNKNOWN]: I linder.
[UNKNOWN]: Like if I was to apply to a show.
[UNKNOWN]: if you David, it would be dealin' no deal island.
[UNKNOWN]: All right, I think that show was so much fun.
[UNKNOWN]: That was one of my favorite shows that came up recently with some of these game shows.
[UNKNOWN]: And it just seems like a blast.
[UNKNOWN]: kind of a show.
[UNKNOWN]: And let he was that physical beast that they were like, we need to throw her in and hopefully she loses deal and no deal.
[UNKNOWN]: But because there's that safety of deal or no deal, you know, she doesn't always go home and then she can send someone backing.
[UNKNOWN]: And
[UNKNOWN]: I think now without being a mental game or it's a physical slash mental game in the eliminations, I think she rocks the entire season, but we see in the preview, she is yelling to all heck.
[UNKNOWN]: So I don't know if she's going to be that consistently explosive character, or if she's going to be, you know, this one big blow up, and then she's just kind of simmering.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: I think I can see both ways of leddy being this complete firecracker, but also we just caught that moment about fight.
[UNKNOWN]: Right, I expect her to be a fire factor or I think I hope, I think it says a lot that with the preview of all people to start the preview pick with someone who's to the most of the audience would be unknown.
[UNKNOWN]: Like most people.
[UNKNOWN]: will be coming into this being like, who is this girl?
[UNKNOWN]: Like, who is this girl who's shouting at us in the beginning of this trailer, which I think shows a lot of promise for the potential they see in her, and potentially like the screen time she's gonna get on this season.
[UNKNOWN]: Girl, girl of the rookie's is gonna be a,
[UNKNOWN]: It's going to be a war roll.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, she's a laurel.
[UNKNOWN]: Like she's D1 volleyball player.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm pretty sure like she they always say former WWE.
[UNKNOWN]: She never was a wrestler.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm pretty sure she was one of those people who got like WWE's version of an NIL, the old and like did some training.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, did training and then never did a matron.
[UNKNOWN]: But I saw like a few episodes of that of this like Don D season and like I do remember her like I do remember her having personality as well.
[UNKNOWN]: So I'm like, that says something to me that I'm like, okay, even though show that was like barely paying attention to she popped up and I instantly knew what she was from before like they even said anything.
[UNKNOWN]: I was like, oh,
[UNKNOWN]: I remember you, and I remember her being like a physical force in people fearing like that in the game.
[UNKNOWN]: So I think it around constantly and it never worked.
[UNKNOWN]: So I think she could have some longevity on this season and longevity on this show.
[UNKNOWN]: If like if the season goes how I think it will, she's going to be one of those rookies that gets to call back instantly.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, agreed.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, now that we have dissected our cast, woo, after two hours, keep saying it with us because now we're going into our thoughts on the theme.
[UNKNOWN]: So how does cut throughout work based on last season?
[UNKNOWN]: we have three team school yard pick by the last three to finish a run.
[UNKNOWN]: Then one team wins the daily two teams lose.
[UNKNOWN]: If you win the daily, you grow your prize pot for the final, which definitely is not happening this time.
[UNKNOWN]: I just can't even be them doing any of the, no, based on the twist that they have, I think it's gonna be a set.
[UNKNOWN]: And then for nominations, you nominate one man and one woman from your team and they go into a elimination against someone from the other team.
[UNKNOWN]: Now, the thing is I don't know how Kumbayaos sometimes are going to wind up being, but in the OG season, they're like, all right, it's my turn.
[UNKNOWN]: I'll go in.
[UNKNOWN]: They did a rotation and then whoever wins the elimination returns back to their team.
[UNKNOWN]: the final.
[UNKNOWN]: They had random numbers, random numbers of people on teams.
[UNKNOWN]: So we had a team of two a team of five, but then two people had to be met a back from the challenge.
[UNKNOWN]: So it was three.
[UNKNOWN]: And then a team of I think five or six.
[UNKNOWN]: So they had to adjust challenges based on how many
[UNKNOWN]: And then so based on what we know for this season, the team captains decide how the money is split.
[UNKNOWN]: So my theory here is you're like maybe the best you did the best out of the daily and so you are your teams captain or like there's some sort of point accrual and so if you surpass somebody on your team and points you're now the new team captain.
[UNKNOWN]: is what I thought it could be, where there's some sort of a point system within your team, and that's how the captain is determined.
[UNKNOWN]: And if you're just good, you're the captain, rather than social, but again, the captain, they could nominate one person to be captain, and then they have to throw in the two people into elimination.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know how this captain situation is going to work.
[UNKNOWN]: Mm-hmm.
[UNKNOWN]: That's my biggest question going to the season.
[UNKNOWN]: It's like, is it gonna be like the OG where you have like a fixed captain and you don't really get a new captain until the captain is eliminated?
[UNKNOWN]: But I would think it based off their current history, they love doing their stupid point systems on here.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know how they would attribute it into the daily's of like, oh, well, you did this much.
[UNKNOWN]: So you get this amount of points or this amount of points.
[UNKNOWN]: But there has to be some sort of mechanic within the season that I allows you to gain control of the captain ship at any point or,
[UNKNOWN]: Or is it just as simple as a vote?
[UNKNOWN]: We have to eliminate someone and then they'll be a vote over who the new captain is.
[UNKNOWN]: But give it the twist and that got thrown down into elimination.
[UNKNOWN]: That's the new captain.
[UNKNOWN]: And then he's them from the brand and effective.
[UNKNOWN]: almost like a star method in like the all stars where like you're in your star like earn your captain ship by being put in or like come to original seasons where the captain always was the one who got thrown into elimination if you're team lost.
[UNKNOWN]: Obviously there's mechanic issues there so I don't think that will be the case.
[UNKNOWN]: But
[UNKNOWN]: I'm very interested in this and I think this twist also is what I was like hinting at with a lot of these people of how are you going to work amongst your team?
[UNKNOWN]: You give you a very strong team, but for example, if you have been asked on your team, why are you going to do to undermine him throughout the season to ensure that he's not the captain?
[UNKNOWN]: Because your biggest fear is going to be that he's a team.
[UNKNOWN]: He sees this twist and the producer in his brain is going, what you want someone to go to the end with their team, however, his left and go, I'm just going to keep all the money to myself.
[UNKNOWN]: Bye!
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and he's proven to do it once before.
[UNKNOWN]: So like, that is smart.
[UNKNOWN]: Do we get rid of bananas before he can do that for a second time?
[UNKNOWN]: Probably should do that.
[UNKNOWN]: But again, he is an asset to your team and he will make that known.
[UNKNOWN]: So I'm excited to see how this is gonna work because the captains quote unquote for the OG season
[UNKNOWN]: the people that were last in the run.
[UNKNOWN]: And so after that, the kind of captain see dissolved because we see some captains go home early as well.
[UNKNOWN]: But I wonder if they start out as the captains, then we see, you know, the eliminations is your captain or, I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: But that's essentially kind of how cut for it works and I wonder if they are going to change up, you know, the elimination style of voting within your team.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think they should, but because no, I think I think they should keep that.
[UNKNOWN]: Um, but with all that being said, in terms of the cabin stuff, our last thing on here is going through the speculative team breakdown that a lot of the channels have put out there, uh,
[UNKNOWN]: I, McKenna, John, we all do our best to avoid as much spoilers as possible.
[UNKNOWN]: The only spoilers I've ever let anyone share with me or anything about format, nothing about eliminations, nothing about ejections, nothing about placement, but based off what I was given.
[UNKNOWN]: The way you still still has them on whatever tribe I just didn't
[UNKNOWN]: team.
[UNKNOWN]: I just never crossed referenced with the graphic, which should have been something that I would have should have done.
[UNKNOWN]: But we have gone to colors.
[UNKNOWN]: If it does say if you go to their challenge wiki for this season, it's like trivia on green team, trivia on blue team, great team, whatever, you know, it says what they are.
[UNKNOWN]: So it's like, it's pretty out there.
[UNKNOWN]: It's out there.
[UNKNOWN]: So my question is going to be, how did they end up with the captains?
[UNKNOWN]: Or because on my hand, the challenge says a lot of funky stuff, there is no world in my brain where they end up creating a team that has bananas, CT, and Tory on the same team.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, so this has to be like I feel like they have to have some sort of a school yard pick, but then like if they pick CT first I guess I wonder if it's like easy or dead and they're like alright bananas is is the challenge and then I just don't know how another team doesn't pick CT, but I can see how some people don't pick bananas so if CT can first
[UNKNOWN]: I can see CTP when the last people pick because a lot of these people are so dumb that they're like, oh, we'll see T's still out of shape.
[UNKNOWN]: We're not going to pick him.
[UNKNOWN]: And then you get to the end and it's just like,
[UNKNOWN]: That's the biggest thing of how to, my thought is, how to, how to bananas and CT become on the same, on the same team.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you can't see and Chris end up on the same team.
[UNKNOWN]: Michelle, who are besties, like, now we were talking about this before, but the Justin and Will, they're on the same team, is that dynamic gonna rub people the wrong way?
[UNKNOWN]: Are they gonna fight and throw each other in?
[UNKNOWN]: But the bottom level team here, so in this case on here, it's orange.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't remember what the team colors are actually.
[UNKNOWN]: But the team that you gave me in that graphic, I just OK, cool.
[UNKNOWN]: Everything over.
[UNKNOWN]: Cool, cool, cool.
[UNKNOWN]: I do not remember.
[UNKNOWN]: But the orange team of bananas, CT, dead,
[UNKNOWN]: is a Justin Michelle Tory and Will.
[UNKNOWN]: On paper, I would say, this is the team to be, this is the team that you don't want a majority of them getting to the final together because they will all do very well in the final.
[UNKNOWN]: Because like bananas, gray in the final, worse you really will ever seem to get a third place and that's when it's individual.
[UNKNOWN]: CT, if he sheds that weight,
[UNKNOWN]: killer in a final, deb unknown is the unknown.
[UNKNOWN]: Justin could be good.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if you're in too high.
[UNKNOWN]: And during too high, Michelle almost won a season.
[UNKNOWN]: One of the harder finals today.
[UNKNOWN]: Tori has won a season and is one of the best well-rounded players here.
[UNKNOWN]: And will
[UNKNOWN]: Like there's a lot of strength here, it's gonna be how much are they gonna be clashing heads over like who's in power and the bananas of it all, essentially.
[UNKNOWN]: Because you have CT that butt heads with bananas, you have Michelle, you have Tori who all butt heads with bananas.
[UNKNOWN]: So it's, and then it's easy too.
[UNKNOWN]: It's easy, and then if you're introducing the fact
[UNKNOWN]: you know, the captain can take all well, shoot that really puts bananas in the hot seat this season, but.
[UNKNOWN]: Right, because you're going to have bananas being like, well, I'm going to sabotage stuff so that I can in a way that's going to benefit me, not the team, because I want to be the captain
[UNKNOWN]: I think it's the blue team.
[UNKNOWN]: That's what I was going to say to you.
[UNKNOWN]: So that we have Annelly, Brad, Sedrick, Kara, Josh, Letty, Nelson, and Riley.
[UNKNOWN]: I just think with Chris Underwood, Corey, Leo's pretty solid, Naris Sidney, Cassidy.
[UNKNOWN]: Like a lot of these people are more
[UNKNOWN]: even then I think that the top people are, I think Brad is kind of mid.
[UNKNOWN]: Sedric is like pretty good.
[UNKNOWN]: Cara is of the top tier.
[UNKNOWN]: I think Josh is gonna be a hot head.
[UNKNOWN]: Letty, you know, could that dynamic?
[UNKNOWN]: It could letty be also the female hot head.
[UNKNOWN]: And then Riley had not really knowing much about her.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: I just feel like I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: Just as most unknowns have the most rookies by far up any of the groups, which again, I'm just going to be fascinating once we can finally see the episode.
[UNKNOWN]: How were these teams formed and why?
[UNKNOWN]: because like you sort of have the levels of like this team with a bunch of unknowns.
[UNKNOWN]: So we do not know how they're all going to work together, but there's some that I'm like, I am a little fearful for you.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Like the grayish team where I'm like all like pretty average to above average, but great team Adrian, Cassie, Chris Underwood.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, there's people who don't really have relationships with each other.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's true, too.
[UNKNOWN]: Like, they don't have those connections.
[UNKNOWN]: I think the recent Cory, Chris and Cassidy are gonna be your...
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: Corrections.
[UNKNOWN]: I feel like Sydney will flock to Cassidy a hundred percent because, you know, they're both new.
[UNKNOWN]: So, 45ers who started on blue tribes.
[UNKNOWN]: Chris, underwood, also blue tribe.
[UNKNOWN]: Blue tribe gang?
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: Blue tribe gang?
[UNKNOWN]: But it always has the most experience, but also the most volatility in terms of like the bananas of it.
[UNKNOWN]: Or they got to be gaming the game.
[UNKNOWN]: Mm-hmm.
[UNKNOWN]: So it's really interesting, like on paper aren't just the best, but like literally any of these teams could implode in a moment's notice.
[UNKNOWN]: Mm-hmm.
[UNKNOWN]: Agreed.
[UNKNOWN]: So, that, thank you for anybody who has stuck around.
[UNKNOWN]: If you got two hours, two minutes and 53 seconds in here, I want you to comment the timestamp and then just say, who do you think is going to win the challenge?
[UNKNOWN]: And also, tell McKenna to stop saying tribes.
[UNKNOWN]: Mm, yes, we, we will get there.
[UNKNOWN]: I'll get out of a survivor mindset, because we still have one more episode of bitter or better left on Wednesday.
[UNKNOWN]: And then Thursday will be our official coverage of the challenge starting with some episode recaps.
[UNKNOWN]: So we are really excited.
[UNKNOWN]: Again, John will be joining us for the season.
[UNKNOWN]: It's gonna be a great time.
[UNKNOWN]: Do in this season with us, it's going to be so much fun and can't wait to continue our coverage of the challenge.
[UNKNOWN]: So see you next Thursday for the challenge, but Wednesday for better or better.
[UNKNOWN]: Goodbye, everyone.