[SPEAKER_01]: Dino-ma!
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey everybody, it's a dynamite show, Paul Fontaine, Jeff Hawkins, here on the fight game media, YouTube channel, checking in 20 minutes after dynamite ended at our regularity schedule time, Kila and Scott, off from the the the wrap, which is on height is right now, Kila would always introduce Scott as either salty or
[SPEAKER_01]: What was the the nice word that he used he had another one like there's an opportunity to salty that was used when he was in good mood I am in like the best mood possible like I I'm so refreshed the show ended and you know the whole thing about leave them wanting more like Okay, this is it like you know, I oh my god.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just so happy Yeah, Fernando no ever on this week.
[SPEAKER_01]: Almost me.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm you have no idea
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, yeah, so I'm, uh, yeah, I'm very happy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, we have, we have a lot of stuff to talk about too, so it's got, we got started on time.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so the first thing was, I put out a post on Twitter this week that got an amazing amount of, um, traction for me.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and it was just something that hit my brain when I was watching,
[SPEAKER_01]: that all the wrestling I watch, and it just kind of hit me that, such I'm trying to find my tweet, but the general message in my tweet was that
[SPEAKER_01]: The difference between WWE and AW is that WWE is a company and really it's TKO, that is trying to hear actually I found the tweet here.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just had an epiphany, I'm not sure anyone else wants to come up with, but I haven't seen it, so I'm assuming that I came up with it.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's what is the key difference between A, WWE.
[SPEAKER_01]: AWS goal is produced the best product matches that they can, and if they happen to make money while doing it, that's cool, but it's not the primary objective.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now I will also say, and I've pointed this out in my comments to people that responded to this, they are making money we all believe, and the business is very successful, but that is more like it's like a side goal, or now that the business isn't in that position where they're making money, he's not trying to maximize his
[SPEAKER_01]: WWE's goal is to make the most money they can, and if they happen to produce a good product while doing it, that's cool, but it's not the primary objective.
[SPEAKER_01]: The primary objective is to make as much money as they possibly can.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so Jeff, you have to say not to that.
[SPEAKER_00]: This was an answer to the question who serves their fans better, WWE or AEW.
[SPEAKER_00]: Essentially, no, that was the question and you quote tweeted it.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I didn't quote tweet anything.
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought you'd like to tweet it.
[SPEAKER_01]: A different person to ask in that question.
[SPEAKER_01]: OK. And I said obviously a W.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, the question was, which company please is fans more?
[SPEAKER_00]: The original one, and that's how it got, okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, I didn't look, no, so I think that was actually a reply to this was what I quote tweeted to someone that I like to this with that question.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the question I asked and you'll get my theory on the two things within that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so yeah, I mean, if that's the question, yeah, I think a W. Okay, and here's my answer.
[SPEAKER_00]: Here's my answer in verbal essay form, because I actually thought about this and wrote it all
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: The two companies have fundamentally different ideas of what pleasing fans even means.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: WWE is basically an entertainment machine.
[SPEAKER_00]: They watch the ratings, the crowd reactions, the merchandise, the social numbers, but they don't necessarily obey those things immediately.
[SPEAKER_00]: WWE can decide this guy as a star and then use TV time commentary production, entrances and repetition to convince you he's a star.
[SPEAKER_00]: that Roman Reigns is the obvious example.
[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't abandon him because people boot him.
[SPEAKER_00]: They said, this guy is going to be a star.
[SPEAKER_00]: We just haven't figured out the right version yet.
[SPEAKER_00]: And eventually, they did.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: So WWE's philosophy isn't the customer's always right.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's more like we know how to make people want something.
[SPEAKER_00]: AEW is much more of a taste maker.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're asking, what do we, the people who really understand wrestling think is good and betting the audience eventually comes around?
[SPEAKER_00]: So WWE says, trust the machine, they'll come around.
[SPEAKER_00]: AEW says, trust the wrestling, they'll come around.
[SPEAKER_00]: But there's a real blind spot in that philosophy.
[SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes AEW confuses being good at wrestling with being a star.
[SPEAKER_00]: Maya World being a good example.
[SPEAKER_00]: She had good matches, people liked her in the ring, and instead of actually giving her a star-making push, the answer was basically okay, put a belt on her, and keep her in long matches.
[SPEAKER_00]: But a good match isn't the same thing as making somebody a star.
[SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes the audience needs a reason to care about the person, not another 20 minute match.
[SPEAKER_00]: So even by AEW's own logic, trust the wrestling, they're not always doing that consistently.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's sometimes some staking match quality for star building, which are two different jobs.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't think either philosophy is inherently wrong, but here's where the real contradiction comes in Paul.
[SPEAKER_00]: A WWE fan can want WWE to become more sophisticated, better wrestling, better stories, more critically respected if you will, without wanting to stop being WWE.
[SPEAKER_00]: WWE gets cooler, that's pure upside.
[SPEAKER_00]: AEW has a much harder problem.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's fans want AEW to become more popular without becoming like WWE.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because what would make AEW substantially more popular?
[SPEAKER_00]: Bigger stars, more legible characters, more promos, more spectacle, more attention to what casual audiences respond to.
[SPEAKER_00]: So eventually you start saying, well, that's just WWE.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's almost like the AEW fan wants to be the cool kid who also wants everybody to come to the party, but doesn't want to change the party to make it more appealing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, they want, they want some more people to come to the party, but they don't necessarily want everybody to come to the party.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, they want the right people to come to the party.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, I don't think the distinction is WWE cares more about money and AEW cares about wrestling.
[SPEAKER_00]: Both care about money wrestling and their fans.
[SPEAKER_00]: The difference is what happens when the company and the audience disagree.
[SPEAKER_00]: And in my world's case, what happens when the company doesn't even fully execute its own stated values.
[SPEAKER_00]: So WWE says we know where we want to get you, we'll figure out how to get you there.
[SPEAKER_00]: AEW says we know what's good eventually you'll come around, except sometimes they don't even follow through on making the case.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's why WWE has a structural advantage.
[SPEAKER_00]: Its definition of fan satisfaction is compatible with growth.
[SPEAKER_00]: AEW's core audience is asking for something much harder.
[SPEAKER_00]: Beep WWE at the numbers without playing WWE's game.
[SPEAKER_01]: So what brought this question on for me was actually, it was seeing the graphic for Baron Corbin versus Lil Yati, that's gonna be at Saturday night or Sunday night's made event.
[SPEAKER_01]: And when I saw that, I thought, you know what?
[SPEAKER_01]: in a perfect world where I got to see what I wanted, that match would not be Baron Corbin versus Lil Yaddy.
[SPEAKER_01]: It would be Shamus versus Illya Dragonhouse, except WWE tried to lowball both those guys, and those both those guys said, we think we can get more money elsewhere, or we just don't want to work for you for that amount, whatever they said, and they're both gone.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so that's what got me to thinking, okay, WWE, they're trying to make a profit.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they are going to pay what they want to pay.
[SPEAKER_01]: And if they don't, if the person doesn't want it, okay, see where as A, W, they will hire as many people as they can as Tony Khan wants to have under his payroll, he will never fire anybody.
[SPEAKER_01]: He will let their contract run out even though he's got three times as many people as he needs.
[SPEAKER_01]: If he was trying to maximize profits, he'd cut 100 people because there's people on his show, he doesn't need.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he will never cut them.
[SPEAKER_01]: So again, I'm not, this isn't a bad thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I'm not saying it's a bad thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm saying his goal.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now that he's in a position where his company is making money,
[SPEAKER_01]: His goal is, hey, I'm going to put on the best show I can if a free agent comes that I like.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll sign them.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't care.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't care how many people I have in a contract.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, Elia, come on down buddy.
[SPEAKER_01]: I got I got matches on collision.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, my years of one, here's a one month push for you and then hey, never mind.
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you know what?
[SPEAKER_00]: You think these guys are unhappy?
[SPEAKER_00]: No, they're not.
[SPEAKER_00]: You think the fans are unhappy?
[SPEAKER_00]: No, they're not.
[SPEAKER_00]: Do I think the guys are unhappy?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, I think you think the big clog of the mid-cart that's sitting back there never gets to be on TV is unhappy.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, they're getting paid a lot of money to not be able to.
[SPEAKER_01]: Some of them are.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, deaf.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you knew how much these people are making.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I know they're making, I know that that it's six figures minimum if you get, oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And some of them put it this way.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's one guy who I know of for a fact is making a half million dollars a year and you never see him on TV and doesn't surprise me.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you know what?
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm sure he'd rather be working.
[SPEAKER_01]: But you think that WW is going to pay him a half million dollars, not a chance.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, fine.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know, and I'm sure there's others like him.
[SPEAKER_01]: And there was a match on the ROH paper view that I watched.
[SPEAKER_01]: This match was thrown together at the last minute.
[SPEAKER_01]: And there's an it didn't draw a dime because nobody even knew it was happening.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's eight guys in it.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was a four way tag team match for the tag team titles.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was top flight against Masqueradurada and Mystico, against Samigavara and the Beastmortos, against, uh, who was the other team.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, the kingdom.
[SPEAKER_01]: I knowing what I know and kind of putting together what I think is probably the case, given what I know, and estimating the salaries of the people involved.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that the salaries of those people were probably work out to about somewhere between $1.5 and $2 million a year, which is probably more money than our way to the company generates in a whole year.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to end.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you know what?
[SPEAKER_01]: If Tony was trying to maximize profits, none of those guys would be under contract.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's what I'm saying is, and again, I'm not mocking him.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's company is successful.
[SPEAKER_01]: I believe he's probably making money.
[SPEAKER_01]: And if he's not now, he will be when he gets a new TV deal.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you know what?
[SPEAKER_01]: And either way, he can afford to lose money because he's a billionaire.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he's having the time of his life and the fans love it, there's nothing wrong with that.
[SPEAKER_01]: He could be losing a hundred billion dollars a year for all I care, you know?
[SPEAKER_01]: It's his money, not mine.
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, and WWE,
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what?
[SPEAKER_01]: They will let somebody go because they're not using them.
[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, the latest rumors Gargano might be God.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like if that's the case, you know what?
[SPEAKER_01]: I love Johnny Gargano.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'd love to see him wrestling every week.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's been lying on a lion.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's been planking for seven months.
[SPEAKER_01]: And if he's off the show, does that make the show any worse?
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you know what?
[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's too bad.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'd love to see him wrestle, but it's not gonna hurt their show if they cut them.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, but if it's it's what's the difference between planking and not being used on a w.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, there's not, but what I'm saying is WWE will cut them because they're trying to maximize profits, right, Tony would pay him to go to catering and let him go to Tony would pay him because he believes that everybody should have the deal and interest and he should honor the contracts that he signs.
[SPEAKER_01]: So his philosophy is, you know, is not to make the most money that he possibly can and WWE's is.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that lack of a better word now if either side is proving on a bad good product.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, that's fine.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now before we get to our next point, we do have a super chat and it will take long to answer.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think Plathor for asking the hard-hitting questions.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure we're going to get shouted on an X tomorrow for answering it.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's been six months.
[SPEAKER_01]: Can the boys list their favorite matches, angles, or moments of the inspiration's A, W, run?
[SPEAKER_01]: I actually have one.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: April 1st, I believe, is the date.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was at Dynamite and there was a dark match.
[SPEAKER_01]: What I thought was a dark match ended up being on on her club.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I, I walk in, I've been out getting concessions.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I come back to my grandson, who's sitting there watching the match.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I, and I said, and he asks me, he says, I know from the entrances that that's Cassie and Jessie, but who are the other two?
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, because I guess they didn't like introduce them.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it was Maya World and Hayen.
[SPEAKER_01]: And, and then I was like, it doesn't matter because they're going to lose while they beat the inspiration.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that was like, so Tony Khan signed the TNA tag team champions away from them and he beat them on Otter Club.
[SPEAKER_01]: my second favorite moment was when they lost in 30 seconds in their debut and we haven't seen them sit.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, did the brawling birds or whatever it was?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think it was.
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, my favorite was their RLH match against Harley Cameron and Mena Shirakala.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: You just loved it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I just love that it made a lot of people angry.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of boob jokes in the, and that's what I loved about that one was, was hard.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't, I don't.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't really sing where they're theme song or hardly themes, things are theme song, and I don't think that Caprice or Ian realized it.
[SPEAKER_00]: people were listening to Ian and Caprice during that match.
[SPEAKER_00]: What's the problem?
[SPEAKER_01]: I was.
[SPEAKER_01]: I like them.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so yeah, they had the had a good run LL, or by not calling you L. Plothora one C, they had a good run and thank you for the question.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, your second question for us before we get into this show, which ain't going to take long to recap.
[SPEAKER_00]: Here's the recap.
[SPEAKER_00]: The match was good.
[SPEAKER_00]: I liked the video It should have been done at the beginning of the feud.
[SPEAKER_00]: See you next week, everybody.
[SPEAKER_00]: I Got I have a few more notes actually actually we had the preview the the preview.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, that's the way I guess we do
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so you, you wanted to ask me.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, you, you were it because I got your question here.
[SPEAKER_00]: But let, let me do this.
[SPEAKER_00]: Paul, I'm a professional here or some of my professional look.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm, I'm here to talk wrestling and two people too.
[SPEAKER_01]: We had a big time guess, uh, we're, apparently you get, get on the takedown.
[SPEAKER_01]: You'll lose your job in next day.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, sorry, go ahead.
[SPEAKER_01]: Did be Jacob Bethel loses job?
[SPEAKER_01]: You didn't hear?
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
[SPEAKER_01]: oh yeah as he scoops dumped him they they uh they threw one of the plus big time
[SPEAKER_00]: how someone had to take a fall for it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: OK, so I have 11 true or false questions.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then, OK, let's go.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to, you're going to expound on them or you can't.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we don't have to talk about this show.
[SPEAKER_00]: I have a better, same worst from the last year's all in.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because this is their WrestleMania.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we're basically pretending this is the end.
[SPEAKER_00]: Splash, because this is the end of the year.
[SPEAKER_00]: OK, wrap up all those stories at that favorite view to follow.
[SPEAKER_00]: Sure, follow.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sure, follow.
[SPEAKER_00]: A.W.
[SPEAKER_00]: is in a better position today than it was one year ago.
[SPEAKER_01]: True.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I kind of disagree, but okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: A.W.'
[SPEAKER_00]: 's raster depth is a strength that's being wasted by the current creative direction.
[SPEAKER_01]: True.
[SPEAKER_00]: A.W.
[SPEAKER_00]: would be healthier as a company with a head of creative other than Tony Con.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, false.
[SPEAKER_00]: A.W.
[SPEAKER_00]: is closer to a real threat to W.W. than most fans think.
[SPEAKER_00]: Five years from now, AEW will still be operating at its current scale.
[SPEAKER_01]: True.
[SPEAKER_00]: AEW made a mistake moving all in away from Wembley for the 2025 Texas show.
[SPEAKER_01]: Balls.
[SPEAKER_00]: AEW made a mistake bringing all in back to Wembley instead of returning to Texas or trying a new US market.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I'm hedging.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll go with true, but I'm not sure I'm not one.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it might be false just due to the they had they had the main event in line, but they Well, they may get 50,000 people.
[SPEAKER_01]: So if they get 50,000 and it's if they beat it from two years ago, then they won't beat it from two years ago, but if they beat if they get 50,000, I think that's false.
[SPEAKER_00]: A. W. Should scale all in down to a venue size.
[SPEAKER_00]: It can consistently sell out rather than chasing stadium numbers every year.
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe true.
[SPEAKER_00]: AEW over uses its top stars like Omega, MJF and Moxley instead of building new stars.
[SPEAKER_00]: I bring the tough questions for the women's division as being creatively neglected compared to the men's.
[SPEAKER_01]: True.
[SPEAKER_00]: AEW's storytelling is too centered on work rate and not enough on compelling characters.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I'm actually going to say false and the reason I'm going to say false is because the fans want the work rate.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, all right, for whatever explanation.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so that's all I'm saying for their fan base and for who he's playing to, that's false.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, so from last year's all in, I have selected, I have not given all the participants, but certain selected participants of last year's all-in paper view.
[SPEAKER_00]: Please tell me if they are in a better position, the same position or a worse position than last year, post all-in.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, FTR.
[SPEAKER_01]: Worse.
[SPEAKER_00]: Powerhouse Hobbs.
[SPEAKER_00]: Better.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a loaded question.
[SPEAKER_00]: It is, isn't it?
[SPEAKER_00]: It's something giving given raw.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's better due to the raw intro.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I haven't seen raw.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Swer Strickland.
[SPEAKER_01]: Worst.
[SPEAKER_00]: I agree.
[SPEAKER_00]: Will Osprey.
[SPEAKER_01]: Better.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think same, but you can make the case for better.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, he was injured at the end of last year's thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, right, but he was the big angle in the last year with the Yeah, that's true.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's true, but I would say better.
[SPEAKER_00]: The young bucks better.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Mike Bailey.
[SPEAKER_01]: Better.
[SPEAKER_00]: Mercedes Monet.
[SPEAKER_01]: Better.
[SPEAKER_00]: Really?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Kenny Omega.
[SPEAKER_01]: Better.
[SPEAKER_01]: and hangman at him page worse and part of the worse by far of any of you buddy you mentioned okay yeah that's all I got okay all right I if anybody agrees or disagrees with any of those let me know in the chat I know some people were like kind of chatting along with your true false it seemed like a lot of question there so yeah it seemed like most people were agreeing with what I said I think there might have been one or two disagreements
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but yeah, if you, if there's any, um, if there's any where you've vehemently disagree, let us know, um, but yeah, I, I, I, I, I like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, yeah, and when we do our preview, we'll just run down and do our predictions like we always do it.
[SPEAKER_01]: It probably won't take too long.
[SPEAKER_01]: Gary, I get it.
[SPEAKER_00]: FTR might be in a better position now that I think about because they were facing the out-out runners on the pre-show last year now They're not on the show this year, but I'm sure they'll probably be reintroduced in this tag team title Well, the only reason I said is because they're not around though.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, so I mean That's straight on the pre-even being on the pre-show.
[SPEAKER_00]: I almost put out runners on here
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't even know what I would have said.
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess they just lost the ROH trio's titles.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, oh, Fernando liked it.
[SPEAKER_01]: He wants you to do this before every paper view.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of tough because, like, well, this is their wrestle.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we could do it before the 10 pull shows, maybe.
[SPEAKER_01]: Or, you know, even go back and say, like, five years ago, where were they?
[SPEAKER_01]: If we ever do one of those retro shows again, what will definitely do that?
[SPEAKER_01]: If we do one of those retro shows again?
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, them one.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because probably all of them, like, we probably all of them
[SPEAKER_01]: We're just taking the money now.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're just taking the money and do that and have listening to number ever since we stop getting paid from ever since we stop getting paid for the audio shows we kind of need the money.
[SPEAKER_01]: We used to peel back the curtain a little bit.
[SPEAKER_01]: We used to get a little bit of a prudium from the advertising for the audio shows, but we don't really get that anymore.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we're living off super chef.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is my last show, I just want to hear it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah, so yeah, John would like it before the major paid reviews, like that is the full-guerol.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, but okay, but what do you want me to do?
[SPEAKER_00]: Are they better off at this time last year?
[SPEAKER_00]: Or better off since the last paper view?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, or even maybe like pick a pickup point from like three years ago or something.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's that's all in easy because it's like it's a de-markation point.
[SPEAKER_01]: But we can do something like this at different times, you know?
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'd better offer worse than the last favorite of you.
[SPEAKER_00]: That'd be the question.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm better off than the last dynamite.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll tell you that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm feeling real good about this one.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, like the time, you met the content.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I will say about this show in overall.
[SPEAKER_01]: They had a big crowd.
[SPEAKER_01]: It looked like it's crowd kind of sucks.
[SPEAKER_01]: So they were, I think this was WWE crowd because they were into certain things that most they would be crowd isn't into and they weren't into other things that most
[SPEAKER_01]: surprisingly like I thought the most over match on the show was that six woman match which that would normally die a death yeah and and like some of the matches that expected would be super over they didn't care
[SPEAKER_01]: And then the main event, which based on how the whole show had been going, I thought, oh, you know, they're not going to like this either.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they loved it.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I really don't know what the think of this crowd.
[SPEAKER_01]: But we'll kind of talk about it as we go through the show.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was only two announcers, which I absolutely love as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like their booth is too full most weeks.
[SPEAKER_01]: And this was just a scalaver and Tony.
[SPEAKER_01]: I would prefer someone else with Excaliber, but two is better than three.
[SPEAKER_00]: In my tone Tony overdid on the effusive praise today during the thing yeah, a little bit a little bit He was doing the heart cell.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, and I'm all for that for for a go home show Especially when the stuff on the TV isn't necessarily telling it
[SPEAKER_01]: So we had a will ask for a promo to open the show and this, you know, he's in this home country and he, this was a good promo.
[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't great.
[SPEAKER_01]: He could have done a little bit better.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's not quite as all over the place as he usually is, but at times he kind of rambled.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so he's, uh, he says, what you're saying, Glasgow, how are we, how are we?
[SPEAKER_01]: Lads and the crowds were singing, you know, Osprey, Osprey, Osprey, Osprey, Osprey, Osprey, Osprey, Osprey, Osprey, Osprey, Osprey, Osprey, Osprey, Osprey, Osprey, Osprey, Osprey, Osprey, Osprey, Osprey, Osprey, Osprey, Osprey, Osprey, Osprey, Osprey, Osprey, Osprey, Osprey, Osprey, Osprey, Osprey, Osprey, Osprey, Osprey, Osprey, Osprey, Osprey, Osprey, Osprey, Osprey, Osprey, Osprey, Osprey, Osprey, Osprey,
[SPEAKER_01]: I had to, I watched collision this week and there was a segment on collision where Nigel McGinnis was in the back and he was getting, his injury was getting tended to because this, this injury thing is such bullshit.
[SPEAKER_01]: He, he was injured.
[SPEAKER_01]: last week so that he had to pull out of the ring of honor paper view even though he wrestled tonight and so he's he's backstage after last week's dynamite and and Lexi is asking about it and he's about to talk and this asshole will ask great walks into the room and he takes over the Nigel's interview and he's he's worked you know nursing his own wounds from his match last week
[SPEAKER_01]: And they start talking and Nigel is, you know, talking about, you know, he's got this continental cup.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's still got a couple more matches trying wind this thing at Wembley.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Will's like, you know what, man, I got a big match too.
[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, I, I don't know, man, he says, uh, you're an inspiration to me.
[SPEAKER_01]: You, you were one of the trailblazers and, uh, and, you know, and I've looked up to you all these years.
[SPEAKER_01]: And, and I, I got a lot of faith in you
[SPEAKER_01]: I got more faith in you than I have in myself to win at Wembley.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now Paul finish this segment so I can go on my rant.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, so my whole, like I was just, and I heard people rave about this segment and it was like the setting was good and you know, it seemed real natural and everything.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's what people liked, but he just freaking, a key part of this Kenny Omega storyline was he accused Kenny of not believing himself and Kenny got pissed off about it and
[SPEAKER_00]: I am, I have been living all week, Paul, about the, about the day of Melts are talking point that this is a nuanced story that has many layers when it's scattershot.
[SPEAKER_00]: When there's three or four different stories at once and they're trying to tell them all at the same time because part of this promo was I respect you, Katie, but I hate you for talking about my son.
[SPEAKER_00]: What seemed to be two divergent points in its own thing?
[SPEAKER_00]: We now have the self-doubt thing, and we've had nothing but self-doubt stories with Will Osprey for three years it seems because we had the Tiger Driver, we had his neck, we had we had another one too.
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't remember what it was that I put it in.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it is refusing whether or not to use a screwdriver,
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, they're not to use a screw to, oh, that's an interesting one that he's now bringing up.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I feel so bad about that.
[SPEAKER_00]: And now I need to win on my own.
[SPEAKER_01]: And this is, what did he say when it's done that was so bad?
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
[SPEAKER_00]: He need to new hero.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my God, you've invoked my son.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, it's like, we're fed-brained.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, they're throwing spaghetti at a wall and trying to get, and then we, and then we, eventually, to dismount, go, it's important for me to win the title in Britain.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because I'm a British champ, it's like pick one of those, and then we can explore it and give it some depth.
[SPEAKER_00]: But no, we're doing all of those at once, and it sounds like Will can't keep a coherent thought in his head, because he's going all over the place with it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and yeah, and your point, like even though something would be fine because he could have just taken that comment and said, Hey, you said my son's going to need a new hero.
[SPEAKER_01]: I actually liked his line that he that he did describe you need to get so upset at Kenny.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just say you brought that up.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, you know what you know what it is.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's is new heroes going to be the new me when I champion.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right up, right up, right up, right up, you know, it's easy to write those stories.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, all he has to do is, and then tie it in to his want to be the first, because you just need one want in a scene.
[SPEAKER_00]: Just just say, I want to be the first British world champion.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then my son will see me as the British champion.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'll be his hero.
[SPEAKER_00]: How about that?
[SPEAKER_01]: I grew up watching all these guys.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to grow up watching me.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, you recap that promo pretty well.
[SPEAKER_01]: I wrote it all down.
[SPEAKER_01]: I have to do this.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I'll take a nap.
[SPEAKER_01]: You go.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know.
[SPEAKER_01]: So he says, after he says, I got a lot of doubt.
[SPEAKER_01]: He says, I doubted if I get back to this position and if I ever came back, could I even win the big one?
[SPEAKER_01]: People asking what it's like to be the British wrestler fighting for the most important championship and professional wrestling.
[SPEAKER_01]: long before all eat wrestling in New Japan.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is where I started.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was in this country up and down, England, Scotland, Northern Ireland.
[SPEAKER_01]: I made the freaking towns, bro.
[SPEAKER_01]: You throw yourself in this ring, beans and boards.
[SPEAKER_01]: You look in your wage pocket and it weren't even enough to pay your rent.
[SPEAKER_01]: I woke up at 6 a.m. took myself to work at the building site and I did this every single day of I created for this mate.
[SPEAKER_01]: Also, I could fly the flag for the UK to represent every single fan that represented me from top to bottom.
[SPEAKER_01]: The United Kingdom is where the best wrestle.
[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of people would have hated it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Me, I loved it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I loved being in the foxhole with boys and girls fall in the same dream.
[SPEAKER_01]: We are learning from icons like Mark Hoskins, Jody Flesh, guys like Chris Travis, Matt Kirk, and Scotland's own line heart, the fans chanted line heart.
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't know he had passed.
[SPEAKER_01]: You forgot Doug Williams.
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't.
[SPEAKER_01]: He was rattling off names and there was one other one I didn't get either.
[SPEAKER_01]: Doug Williams was first.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know, I know.
[SPEAKER_01]: All in the name to find out if I really am the best.
[SPEAKER_01]: And if I'm being honest, when you mention who the best in the world is, it's really hard to look past our AW World Champion, Kenny Omega.
[SPEAKER_01]: This gets light booze, but then louder canny chests, which I was shocked, and I think will was too.
[SPEAKER_01]: Then he says, but canny omega is not here tonight, and then they booed.
[SPEAKER_01]: So at least he got through it, actually.
[SPEAKER_01]: Why?
[SPEAKER_01]: And so that's fine.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know you're watching at home.
[SPEAKER_01]: I want you to know something, no one respects you more than me.
[SPEAKER_01]: Up and down, you did matches all over the world.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's no one that's been better as a wrestler in the past decade than canny omega, and I'm fine with saying that.
[SPEAKER_01]: But all that respect went out the window when you mentioned my son.
[SPEAKER_01]: You said he needs a new hero after I lose to you.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, and I ain't gonna happen, bro.
[SPEAKER_01]: I made some promises that I gotta make to you and to every single person watching.
[SPEAKER_01]: Number one, this Sunday you're getting a billy goat for sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: This Sunday, I'm gonna bring you the match of your life.
[SPEAKER_01]: This Sunday that stadium will be left with memories of a lifetime.
[SPEAKER_01]: You don't want a fuck with the man who's looking after a boy.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then there's one final one Scotland.
[SPEAKER_01]: A death that needs to be paid mate and the fans are chanting, fuck him up, Oscar, and fuck him up.
[SPEAKER_01]: He says, I've been waiting far too long.
[SPEAKER_01]: For the ones that saw me from the start, for my mom, for my dad, for my wife, for my boy.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's time to bring it home.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you, Kenny, you, Kenny are going to help me show my boy that heroes are just ordinary people who can do extraordinary things.
[SPEAKER_01]: This Sunday, I'm taking it home.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then he started some chant that I didn't understand what he was saying, but they all joined in.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I loved the clothes and there were parts of this I loved.
[SPEAKER_01]: There was, you know, some of it was a little off track, but overall I give it like a seven and a half out of ten.
[SPEAKER_00]: He nailed the dismount, which was fine.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just that the entire back.
[SPEAKER_01]: He did what you said.
[SPEAKER_01]: He did what you said about like starting and then building, you know, like as opposed to, yeah, just kind of staying at the same level.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, he kind of had the wrong emotion to start, but other than that was fine.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I think he was just, I think he was just happy.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I just need, I need to ask for a son to then come out in a burberry scarf with his first new hero.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I need.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you, that was your comment.
[SPEAKER_01]: I like that comment.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like the same.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I had a joke.
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't want to forget it.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like the same man and Raven in that angle.
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, one of the, uh, gemaging hunter thinks Kenny winning would be a lot more entertaining to be you know what like I know or maybe has to I know Osprey has to win, but like man I would love it to anyone like I it's not going to happen and it shouldn't happen, but I think I think for the next six months, can you make it would be a better champion, but for Osprey has to win.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think we're just gonna kill a couple months and put the belt back on M.J.F.
[SPEAKER_01]: I gotta be honest, I think it is going back to M.J.F.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I think we're probably looking at maybe the year-end show.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think Austria's got to have a decent run with it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's get to her.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it does, and I'd like to see some sort of character change with it, and I want to see him have a good run, but he has to sell it with his mouth.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of guys that they need to get that belt on, man.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, they don't.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hmm, they really don't swore they need no they need to get it on Kyle Fletcher.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's who they chose one Fletcher's one.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, and I know like it's not hanged Then we got John locks the inclawio cast in Oli and this was a C3 semifinal match
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: The crowd was not into this at all.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I mean, there were points where they got into it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like when Claudia would do his signature WWE spots, they loved it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, they, I mean, they were polite like they, they applauded.
[SPEAKER_01]: They weren't bullying.
[SPEAKER_01]: They weren't obviously bored.
[SPEAKER_01]: But they didn't really care about any of this.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the problem with these turn with this particular tournament is the blind draw.
[SPEAKER_01]: like you don't know who is facing whoever and so you don't have time to build up anticipation for upcoming matches and the blind draw ends up with partners fighting each other all the time and and the people just didn't care and so they had this match and it was a really good match like you know it was like it was really good like said Claudio the two biggest spots in the match where the crowd was most into it was when he did the airplane spin
[SPEAKER_01]: And then when he tees the neutralizer and then mocks reversed it.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the closing point was to do mocks.
[SPEAKER_01]: So so there's a point where mocks was on the ground.
[SPEAKER_01]: Claudio was about to hit him.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah, Claudio was about to hit an uppercut and then mocksly dropped.
[SPEAKER_01]: to basically block it, but Claudio picked them up like basically deadlift in them, set up a power bomb, but mocks drop to his feet, hit a paradigm shift, Claudio kicks out at one, then mocks hit a stomp, then he hit a death rider, and I wrote, gets the pin, but Claudio kicked out, and then mocks he put on the bulldog choke, Claudio fought to his feet, eventually felt down, mocks he tightened up the grip, and Claudio passed out.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so, Moxley is in the finals defending his title at Wemley as Tony.
[SPEAKER_00]: Goodie, underdog.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, on Moxley.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, overcomes again, and Paul, I've got to say it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's beating Nigel.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, he's 1,000 percent beating Nigel.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, the buddy dumbest thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a stupid thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you know what?
[SPEAKER_01]: And you want to know what else?
[SPEAKER_01]: This gutty baby face that you just talked about.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know how he's going to beat Nigel?
[SPEAKER_01]: he's gonna ankle lock he's gonna break his freaking ankle yes he's gonna pull the trigger that he's been telling we'll operate a turn and he's gonna get his ass booed so this is the entire point of this tournament yes where he's been a baby face every single match well it's that to come in
[SPEAKER_00]: He has been Paul.
[SPEAKER_00]: He was a baby facing a jungle boy for God six.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he looked at him up and shook his hand I get he did he did who is the one he didn't want a shake his hand Oh, oh, he did Jay White, but that was because of the angle, but it was his face
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's because, but those two matches he was coming up.
[SPEAKER_01]: He was working from underneath the over come those two guys and Other I'm just gonna go to Wembley and and and and Nigel's reward is the Wembley entrance that well, and I not only that I mean, okay, and I will say this and I haven't like so at number one I haven't really listened to a lot of other people's audio on this so if it has been mentioned I just haven't heard it, but I don't think anybody else has mentioned this
[SPEAKER_01]: we talked about a little bit last week, but Nigel and Moxley is a bit of a dream match because those two started out basically together in each WA and they've never really wrestled each other.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like they may have had a match here there, but they've never had a go- I looked this up last week.
[SPEAKER_00]: I brought up and tagged matches with each other in 2006.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's been twice.
[SPEAKER_01]: So they've never had a singles match probably.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is the less thatcher special that I said it was.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and and I mean, and they both do that upside down clothes on thing although I am boxed Ambros lost dude.
[SPEAKER_00]: They are doing it at the same time.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, knocking each other out for a plot spot Oh, absolutely.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and and mox is going to win and then he's going to be auspriced probably first challenger or definitely a challenger in the next couple months so
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, he's going to shake Nigel's hand after beating him and then turn heel like on Wednesday against Osprey.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think he's going to do that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's going to break his ankle and just know he's got break his ankle, I think.
[SPEAKER_01]: Or yeah, no, I don't think he's taking his hand.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I think Nigel's tapping out before his ankle breaks.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that'll happen.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's going to be ruthless.
[SPEAKER_01]: Then we get, so Adam Copeland's coming out of the ring and I'm like, oh, I don't remember him being on the show as it's an interview.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then, and his partners, I'm like, what?
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's the young bucks.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then, the CalSound was out.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, I had no idea this much was happening.
[SPEAKER_01]: They never advertised ahead of time as far as I know.
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's Copeland teaming with the bucks for some reason, even though the last time they team, they didn't get along.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they're wrestling each other on Sunday,
[SPEAKER_00]: They're all in terms of storytelling, Paul, I have no idea.
[SPEAKER_01]: And their opponents are Jake Doyle, Brian Cage, and Rocky Romero, and they had a match.
[SPEAKER_01]: They went through a break.
[SPEAKER_01]: The fans were actually into it, mostly just Copeland, after I buried him on the takedown yesterday.
[SPEAKER_01]: These fans were from, we're gonna show Paul.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then there was a spot where Matt was trying to make a tag to Nick, but Cope tagged himself in.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he ran wild on the heels.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then the bucks ran in to help Cope after Davis took him down.
[SPEAKER_01]: They did all their spots where everybody
[SPEAKER_01]: you know get to get to move on and then Rocky of course does the same thing he did last week where he hit the move and then he slides over to the corner and starts posing and he gets super kicked.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's awesome.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then the black stove onto Cajun Doyle, Rocky stumbles to his feet eight of spear and that was that.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was it was fine.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was basically a squash.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: fine, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Excalibur put over how well they work together, even though they're wrestling each other on Sunday.
[SPEAKER_00]: This build, somebody should sue somebody over this build.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's unbelievable.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, and the thing is Christian is just not having it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, but that, you know, get to get to that part of my mouth.
[SPEAKER_01]: So Christian comes out in an attempt.
[SPEAKER_01]: So when we did our preview, Llyester, to Garrett asked me to put the matches in three tiers, like you're most looking forward to kind of your men, and then you're least looking forward to.
[SPEAKER_01]: And this match was like, way at the bottom, because I just don't care.
[SPEAKER_01]: And but Christian came out and he says, I'm gonna show Paul, I'm gonna make him care about this match.
[SPEAKER_01]: and he says what I was thinking.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now that we have this love fest out of the way, young bucks sit down and shut your mouth while I conduct my business.
[SPEAKER_01]: The fans loved Christian as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: So they start singing the Bailey song, except they're changing it with Christian.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, we want some or not.
[SPEAKER_01]: Was it like,
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey Christian you want to know will you be my dad.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, hey, baby by Bruce will you be my but will you be my dad.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so they're singing Christian he is not having this he is
[SPEAKER_00]: I was waiting for him to say something to the crowd, but yeah, no, just power through it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was getting impressed to be honest.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it was to the point where you could barely hear him and I don't think he could hear himself.
[SPEAKER_01]: So he says there's something you need to know.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't associate with people beneath me and in this tag team division, that's exactly what you are.
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't get me wrong.
[SPEAKER_01]: No doubt how influential you've been over the course of the year, you're not legends like myself and Adam, the type of legends they name matches after, the type of legends they name paper views after.
[SPEAKER_01]: This Sunday at Wembley with the tag team titles on the line, some are calling this a dream match, just a day at the office for me.
[SPEAKER_01]: You guys are going to find out the difference between influence and legendary.
[SPEAKER_01]: Matt doesn't like this and he says the name matches a paper you've after you guys, huh?
[SPEAKER_01]: Cute.
[SPEAKER_01]: Have they ever named a company after you legend and the fans start chatting be elite be elite and then he says last week we accidentally superkicking your face, but you keep writing your mouth and talking down to us this week.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not going to be an accident.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, oh, yeah, like, like yeah, like this now.
[SPEAKER_01]: then Christian just looks at him, kicks him in the balls.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Nick's super kick Christian, Ed Spirernick, and in one fell swoop, Ed decides to act.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I right back to where I was at the start of this segment and I didn't care.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh no, what did I do?
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, oh, oh, oh,
[SPEAKER_01]: On this day, I wish you'd go on the fat of my L and someone else would team up with Christian and you can go away for another six months.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm so sick of Copeland.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Fellow Canadian, you talk that way about him, huh?
[SPEAKER_01]: Christians, my fellow Canadian too, and I love him.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, Beth, continue with Christian.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was, oh, when he came out and said they name,
[SPEAKER_00]: hate reviews and matches after us.
[SPEAKER_00]: I went, they are not going to do TLC.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know that's what I like to do.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, oh, because I was seeing about this early, because everybody was thinking, oh, FTR, young bucks and Christian and Cope are going to do a TLC match.
[SPEAKER_00]: I go, you're insane for those guys.
[SPEAKER_00]: Can't do those types of bumps anymore.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, they are going to do the match, but no, they're not.
[SPEAKER_00]: They are never going to do a TLC match.
[SPEAKER_00]: They
[SPEAKER_00]: That said, what this feud missed was either Christian coming closer to Cope or Cope coming closer to Christian and embracing the he one either embraces the baby face or the other either embraces the heel and they both just kept the same level, which killed this feud, I'm sorry it killed this feud and even from the first sit down.
[SPEAKER_00]: It is like, it is a problem.
[SPEAKER_00]: I did too, and it's a problem that need to be solved early, so we can move on with building the feud and they never solved it.
[SPEAKER_01]: That 30 seconds were Christian and the bucks hated each other, that's what I wanted the whole build.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I wanted Ed and I had that edge, but Copeland, I wanted him to be conflicted for a week.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then to make a decision.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he has like freaking spear the guy and then start trash talking and while he's on the ground He's my friend.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's my partner.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's my brother screw you.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he doesn't have to go full heel No, he just has to fight for his friend.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's it.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's it
[SPEAKER_01]: John wants to know he thought names were carrying were such nice people why so much hostility words Copeland.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't hate Copeland.
[SPEAKER_01]: I like Adam Copeland.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I like to end.
[SPEAKER_00]: Not a real comedian.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, there is that too.
[SPEAKER_00]: He secretly roots for USA hot.
[SPEAKER_01]: I, so well, I don't do that, but I wish I was an American.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, do so.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I'm going to get married.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I'll help you with the green.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I don't.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, got to you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, what am I carrying and loving nurture, but I don't hate Copeland.
[SPEAKER_01]: I like Copeland.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just sick of them.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not like Brett Hart.
[SPEAKER_01]: I hate.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no, I am well, number one, I am I'm sick of.
[SPEAKER_00]: Cope's creative instincts, which are always bad, Brett, Brett, hard can go away forever.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just sick of him being bitter.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've dated Brett Hart since like 1986.
[SPEAKER_00]: He overrates his charisma.
[SPEAKER_00]: He hates every other wrestler except him and Owen.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm done with him.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the only thing I like about Brett is that he puts Owen over.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because Owen's my favorite wrestler.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's great.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Owen's my favorite wrestler ever.
[SPEAKER_01]: So.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so yeah, so that was that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just Christian is the best.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm telling you Paul, we can go to Vegas and get this done.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's caliber after this says, next up, Kylo Riley and Ajama get us in the C3.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then instead of that, I ask you something here before you get there, with this spin a better tournament, I know I would have still mocked Moxley for overcoming Kylo Riley, but should have been Mox and Kylo and then Nigel and Claudio?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's what I thought it was going to be.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not exactly sure why they did this unless I think maybe.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think Eddie was probably going to beat Claudio on collision, and then it was going to be moxley and Eddie.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's why, so they told me just put Claudio in there instead.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because I think maybe Colin wins.
[SPEAKER_01]: So anyway, so he pitches to next out, we're going to see
[SPEAKER_01]: Whoever he was wrestling, Nigel.
[SPEAKER_01]: But instead, Willow's music hits and I'm like, oh, we don't need Willow as partners with Orange.
[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe she's accompanying him or Kyle, I should say, they're in the conglomeration together.
[SPEAKER_01]: But then, like, nobody comes out and then they cut to the back and Mercedes is beaten on Willow.
[SPEAKER_01]: and she's screaming at her basically screaming a promo at her.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then she looks at the camera and she says, I'm so sorry, but you will not be hearing from Willow tonight.
[SPEAKER_01]: Then she looks down at her and she says, this is your last dynamite as champion sweetheart.
[SPEAKER_01]: I took away your sticking to the fans and I'm taking away this stupid hand from you.
[SPEAKER_01]: And she starts pounding on her hand.
[SPEAKER_01]: Willow is crying and she looks at her and she grabs her face and she's like, she's like stretching her mouth out and she says,
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so I'm taking this away from you to this Sunday.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be gone for good and then she grabs your belt and he said this is going to be gone for good too And she throws the belt down on her and she says good luck.
[SPEAKER_01]: Willow She leaves and the camera just focuses on on willow just oh, she's crying and oh This was this was the cherry on the perfect Sunday.
[SPEAKER_01]: This build has been great and this yeah, this was the cherry on the Sunday and
[SPEAKER_01]: When I talked to Garrett last night, I said, I think Will is winning and he's like, oh, you know, you seem to be on an island.
[SPEAKER_01]: Everyone thinks Mercedes winning.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think Will is winning.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think Will is beating Mercedes winning and I think, uh, I think it's the last we see Mercedes in the time.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you, you, you made that call about six months ago.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think we're going to, she's going to take a, she's going to take a hiatus and she's going to come back and come back baby face and finally maybe not right away, but eventually she's going to be a baby face and she's going to win the title as a baby face as a redemption
[SPEAKER_01]: But I want Willow to win here, and hopefully we'll see it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe they do a rematch at Dynamite in Paris that they announced this week.
[SPEAKER_01]: So then, I figured, okay, now we're going to get Kylo Riley and Nigel, but nope.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's Renee backstage with Don Callis, and I swear to God, I didn't know who this was.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I thought it was big demo.
[SPEAKER_01]: And because it didn't look like Mark Davis to me and any identified as Mark Davis, but he didn't like he was actually well, you know, it was he was well dressed and he's never well dressed.
[SPEAKER_00]: He wasn't that well dressed.
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought he just marked it on for Mark Davis.
[SPEAKER_00]: He was okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, Paul.
[SPEAKER_00]: I will admit my thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, did we just see Jake do it loose.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I thought it was big demo.
[SPEAKER_01]: When I thought he'd added them to the Cales family.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, because they weren't Big, big, big demos bald now.
[SPEAKER_01]: So oh, is he okay?
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't know that.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, it's a, it's a, it's a big demo.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's my Davis.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so Calus says he's back from Croatia and feeling refreshed.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that was news to me.
[SPEAKER_01]: He says, but I got news for you guys at all in whoever wins the world title match between Kenny Omega and Will Osprey on the other side, they're going to have a surprise.
[SPEAKER_01]: The big man, Mark Davis is drawn a number, and if that number gets called, he's going to settle his score with Andrade L. Ello, run through this match and eventually bring the world title, the Don Cal's family.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then he leaves and Mark Davis just looks at the camera.
[SPEAKER_01]: it was great.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's the best promo he's ever cut.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's your best part Davis impersonation I've ever seen too.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, thank you.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, he didn't have stains on it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you, the he does on.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, so that was that was good.
[SPEAKER_01]: Then we go to the ring.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now we're going to get Colorado Nigel.
[SPEAKER_01]: Nope.
[SPEAKER_01]: And draw these music hits.
[SPEAKER_01]: And no, and draw it.
[SPEAKER_01]: MJF's music cuts it out.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he says, cut my music says great to be here.
[SPEAKER_01]: Beautiful sunny Ireland.
[SPEAKER_01]: Of course the fans booed.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's such marks.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is what?
[SPEAKER_01]: Scallon?
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, what's the difference?
[SPEAKER_01]: You're all a bunch of alcoholic
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm sure that And they're the cameras patting the people and they're like, yeah, he's pretty much nailed us Um, and then he says he gives a shit.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's now now.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure you're wondering where is on Andrew L. Edelo
[SPEAKER_01]: says, well, I paid off a couple of gentlemen to warm him up before Wembley.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, unfortunately, he's not going to be here tonight.
[SPEAKER_01]: So sorry.
[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know who he is here tonight?
[SPEAKER_01]: None other than your one true champion.
[SPEAKER_01]: and Tony Savani takes a second while or while MDF pauses for a second.
[SPEAKER_01]: He says with a warp brain no doubt.
[SPEAKER_01]: Every once in a while he gets the greatest line in.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no, his his righteous indignation is the best thing when he does it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's it's awesome.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he finds the perfect spot to say the perfect thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: And this is this.
[SPEAKER_01]: So this is a let's face it
[SPEAKER_01]: What Andrew does?
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not exactly revolutionary.
[SPEAKER_01]: I could come out here wearing a t-shirt like a jibrony and it turns out he's wearing a t-shirt.
[SPEAKER_01]: He says I could wear some fake jewelry and they like, oh, he takes off his ring, puts it in his pocket.
[SPEAKER_01]: He says, I could take a photo with a hot chick, the champ could do that anytime.
[SPEAKER_01]: but since we're in Scotland, finding a hot woman might be impossible.
[SPEAKER_01]: So he looks around, finds this one pretty nice looking woman, and he says, in the States, she'd be a four, but here in Scotland, it's a 10.
[SPEAKER_01]: And she's like insulted.
[SPEAKER_01]: He turns his back to her and he's right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Stevie Wonder could see this coming.
[SPEAKER_01]: He says, but before I do this last but not least, I guess I gotta say I really can't crappy catchphrase.
[SPEAKER_01]: I got one question and as he's taking the longest time possible to get to asking one question, Andrade, of course, shows up beside the woman and he's got his own microphone and he says, how you know an M.J.F.
[SPEAKER_01]: gets the look of terror on his face, Andrade attacks him with the mic, they go into the ring, he beats on him for a little while, M.J.F.
[SPEAKER_01]: fails, and good segment.
[SPEAKER_01]: you know they said we're gonna hear from mjf and on dry i guess technically on dry they said how you know which is all you ever really needs to say.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was good.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Some people find yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Those are the only and those are the only two out of the Mark Davis we're building to this match was as.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well no they added Mark yeah they added a few others.
[SPEAKER_01]: Chris Jericho.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well the very next segment.
[SPEAKER_01]: Chris Jericho is back to doing his over the top baby face thing which yeah so he's like Hello Scotland.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's the biggest week in a w history.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've wrestled Kenny Omega in a stadium I've wrestled Will Osprey in a stadium and I know the casino gauntlet for all in is my chance Or it's somebody's chance to become the a w world champion.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm entering the match.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I can once again Become the a w world champion because I know why important that is
[SPEAKER_01]: And this week on collision, there's a six-man tag.
[SPEAKER_01]: Jericho, Speedball, and Commander versus Nick Wayne, Champa, and Mark Davis, right here in Glasgow.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry, read off those participants again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: against Nick Wayne, Tomasso Champa and Mark Davis, so I have to assume all these guys are in that match.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: The gauntlet.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's going to be a long gauntlet.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah, somebody in the discord predicted 35 minutes.
[SPEAKER_01]: I said and I committed to this and I will stand by this if this match ends with a draw day and mjf in the ring and nobody else like we don't get a third entrance.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's getting my match of the year vote pop huge pop not just the pop it's match of the year match of the year six stars.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but it's not going to happen, but they probably will tease like on draw deal probably hit the hit his move and and tease like a quick pimple.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, no, he's going to get that elbow immediately and then get like a two and a half.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Then we finally got Colorado and Nigel McGinnis.
[SPEAKER_01]: And very quickly, I realized why they waited so long to bring these two to the ring.
[SPEAKER_01]: This match, I mean, it's not that it was bad.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was just it was there.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's didn't care which surprised me.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I guess, it's Nigel, and it's not like he's big in Scotland, he's a London guy.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Scotland is like, I know it's part of the United Kingdom, but it is kind of a different country, isn't it?
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I'm not exactly sure at all about that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, no, no, they have their own.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, national right.
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I mean, the story of the maps was basically Colorado, they just trying a bunch of subs and and Nigel was getting out of them and, you know, he's working over the lake, which, you know, they're telling the story that's injured, even though we don't buy for a second that it's injured.
[SPEAKER_01]: Somewhere, and it was after the commercial break.
[SPEAKER_01]: I, they did a close up on Kyle Riley's face.
[SPEAKER_01]: He had this gigantic, like, distortion under his eye.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, what the hell happened?
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm assuming Nigel Potatoedum at some point.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's mine as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: Probably an elbow.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it started swell.
[SPEAKER_01]: It looked like, you know, like, one of those UFC fighters where like the rest is gonna stop the fight.
[SPEAKER_00]: It gave Kyle some character.
[SPEAKER_01]: a little bit.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they, you know, so they kept going and they just do an all these fricking submissions and reversals and and it sounds better than it is because it was awkward as hell and and like I don't think either one of the new what the guy was going to do.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it usually when you do stuff like this, like the two guys know what's coming and they know how to reverse anything.
[SPEAKER_01]: And these guys seem like they're doing it on the fly, which I mean, they're
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So eventually Kyle had got the ankle walk on.
[SPEAKER_01]: Nigel was trying to make the ropes, teased tapping, got to the rope, then they both get up.
[SPEAKER_01]: They treat uppercuts.
[SPEAKER_01]: Nigel did his up kind upside down clothes on and that got the biggest pop of the night and got a two.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then you know, they just kind of struggle on the ground a little bit and Nigel put on this funky looking move that Excalibur called the London Dungeon and Kyle just tapped.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like no struggle, no nothing, just tap matches over.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that was that.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the Nigel limp the way with his fake injury.
[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, he's gonna wrestle night.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's gonna wrestle moxley on Sunday and get his ass killed.
[SPEAKER_01]: I believe.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the story is, hey, heroic Nigel, got injured in the first match, fought his way through the tournament, got to Wembley and just wasn't enough to beat moxley.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'd say at least the match will be good, but no no.
[SPEAKER_01]: uh... for nandals calling for dragon off to win that is happening in a million years do we will we will uh... we will give our predictions uh... when we do our preview we might see dragon off but oh yeah i think we'll see him i don't think yeah he is he's available now right shameless isn't but but uh... dragon off is yes and we go back stage in calis is uh... with calfletcher and reneye asked him a question and i didn't write down the question but his response was
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, who are you going to believe me or your lying eyes?
[SPEAKER_01]: Listen, here's the deal.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's always competition among alpha athletes.
[SPEAKER_01]: What I expect from this family is you run the play as called.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I heard that and I cringed because they fricking used run the play on WWE television like I'm so sick of that phrase and then they're using it here.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it is bothering me.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's fun.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's fun.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's fun.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's fun.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's fun
[SPEAKER_01]: I have that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I could maybe just noticing it now because they use it so many times on rock.
[SPEAKER_00]: I believe it's a sweep right running.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: By the way, behind the right tackle.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: But he says he says what I expect from this family is you run the players.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's called.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then she goes over to Kyle's.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, what do you guys say?
[SPEAKER_01]: She says, look, I sent it last week.
[SPEAKER_01]: I trust Don.
[SPEAKER_01]: I trust this man with all my heart.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm absolutely 100% willing to run the play at all in.
[SPEAKER_01]: But the question is, is Ocata willing to run it?
[SPEAKER_01]: And Ocata shows up and he says, Kyle, the most important thing to me is family.
[SPEAKER_01]: You can trust me.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then Kyle says, I can trust you.
[SPEAKER_01]: I can trust you to do what exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: I got jumped from behind by the Keshta and you surprised the prize was nowhere to be seen.
[SPEAKER_01]: So can I trust you to be seen?
[SPEAKER_01]: And then Kyle says, you're always thinking about yourself.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's family, Kyle, family.
[SPEAKER_01]: This little shit, oh, God, oh, hey, he's just breaking up this family.
[SPEAKER_01]: One by one, they're gonna end up and it's just gonna be, oh, God and Kyle is about the end.
[SPEAKER_00]: One by one.
[SPEAKER_00]: I wanted an in-trepid reporter René to ask Don Kyle's exactly what the play is.
[SPEAKER_01]: She was saying, there's wide right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I said that, but I don't have a copy of the playbook.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I'd have to be pretty stupid Renee to give you my play and let to Knowskate to catch to know what it is.
[SPEAKER_00]: Actually, that probably the answer to be out.
[SPEAKER_01]: That would be the answer.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, Don Cow has no stupid eagle to quote Uncle Ned on family ties.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a reference for you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you know who played Uncle Ned?
[SPEAKER_01]: Is that Tom Hanks' rule?
[SPEAKER_01]: That's Tom Hanks.
[SPEAKER_01]: Wait, he coined the phrase stuponaggle.
[SPEAKER_01]: I never forgotten it, and I use it all the time.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, it should've endured like correct the mundo.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I've never did.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a solid show by the way, family ties.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I should... We start a podcast about that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I watched Family Ties every single day for every single week and then every single day when it was in syndication, Michael P. Keaton was my hero.
[SPEAKER_01]: You mean Alex P. Keaton?
[SPEAKER_00]: Alex, Keaton, yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there was Michael Keaton was a different guy.
[SPEAKER_01]: I like him too.
[SPEAKER_01]: The inspiration for Pauli Dangerset, I believe.
[SPEAKER_01]: So then we got Persephone and divided me into teaming up with my world and the brawl and birds.
[SPEAKER_01]: And like I said earlier, fans were like super into this.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's like they woke up and it's amazing because like these are all a w women.
[SPEAKER_01]: And like, you know, and normally like they've only been into like the WWE people and doing like signature spots and they really like Maya like every time she did anything they were just super into it and they told a good story in this match.
[SPEAKER_00]: What?
[SPEAKER_00]: And they really love Maya.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, let's go beat her.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's probably what's going to happen.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, yeah, because I think like they did this.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, they did this because I think they're setting up a TBS title match on.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so on their go home isn't that nice.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, it gets from the cart.
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, no, they just stayed in a bunch of great spots and eventually the divine dominion and brawl and birds were like brawling on the outside and so we were left in the ring with with Maya and Persephone.
[SPEAKER_01]: Persephone gets the belt laid out Maya.
[SPEAKER_01]: Crowdboode, Reft was distracted while it was just going on and then she goes to the top, hits the frog splash, got the win.
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought the frog splash afterwards, she's just pinned her, like she didn't need to do the frog splash.
[SPEAKER_01]: and it's kind of dumb because it's like an any gross spot and like that's for baby face.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but other not like I thought the match was good.
[SPEAKER_01]: Total good story.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we should've cheated the win.
[SPEAKER_01]: She did cheat the win.
[SPEAKER_01]: She hit her with the belt.
[SPEAKER_00]: She hit her with the belt.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that was happening.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, but yeah, it was it was good.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was it was good.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was a good match.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then Persephone is getting wins now.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I guess
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you know, I just, for me, I tuned that when I go, oh, we're watching the Brawling Birds fight divine dominion, which I'll be watching again in four days.
[SPEAKER_00]: Great.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, kind of a thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: It didn't like the match.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, like I said, like, and Fernando is like, I like Fernando.
[SPEAKER_00]: I like Fernando.
[SPEAKER_00]: Fernando does it like women's wrestling.
[SPEAKER_00]: All that.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's not that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Though the thing is, remember what I said at the beginning?
[SPEAKER_01]: What I said at the beginning was, um,
[SPEAKER_01]: Typical AW crowd would have sat on the hands for this match and this crowd loved it So this is not a typical AW crowd.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's probably it the Broly Berzer Scotland.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I think Lena will know Lena's from the Australia, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think haters from haters from Liverpool Liverpool and Windsor's from London.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think so.
[SPEAKER_00]: So they're all making bane fans
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, they're, they're UK fans and they, and they like the ball and birds like they're making bacon blind they like these the women that freaking beat people up and drink They lost it like, yeah, no.
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, so then so then they do they did a video package is basically recapping the angle from last week with Darby and I thought, okay, we're probably going to get a segment with Darby and Kevin night or something.
[SPEAKER_01]: Nope.
[SPEAKER_01]: Nothing so I was expecting like Darby's going to get pulled from this match like if he's not pulled from this match like why did they do that angle like I do I have no idea unless they're just setting something up for the future.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think they're setting it up for the arena to give them the pop or for the stadium.
[SPEAKER_01]: What to just show up.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, like they make the announcement he can't go and then and then see boarden.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I think I'm staying and staying appears to help him go into the ring or whatever.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now for all we know.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they already take collision.
[SPEAKER_01]: So they, you know, that might have already happened.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's true, too.
[SPEAKER_01]: But then we got then we got, you know, swirvin and I even asked this this court.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, and there's like 15 there's a 20 minutes off in the show at this point.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like,
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I know we have Swarve and Jack Perry.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's gotta be something else, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: And they're like, nope, that's it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, okay, they're gonna do a segment.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're gonna do something.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're gonna do a big thrall at the end of this main event.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're gonna do something.
[SPEAKER_01]: The show is not ending on time.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, they wrestle.
[SPEAKER_01]: And again, and it's, I could just point out, it's Swarve Strickland and Jack Perry.
[SPEAKER_00]: And Jack Perry in the main event on your go home show.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I will take you back, do you remember?
[SPEAKER_00]: You and I were talking during this match.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like we have to be seeing who swirves partners are at the end.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, right.
[SPEAKER_01]: They never even mentioned the trio's title match during this match.
[SPEAKER_01]: Not one.
[SPEAKER_01]: Nope.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I don't know, man.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so, and do you remember?
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you don't remember, because every time I bring it up, you don't remember, but how do you, there was a show how it was right.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was right around the time.
[SPEAKER_01]: I started doing this podcast and there was one of the go home shows where the main event had.
[SPEAKER_01]: Colton gun in it and like don't remember that all no, I do Yeah, and he I mean he was nowhere near the paper view and yeah, he was on the go home show and the and there was no angle There's no they just did a match.
[SPEAKER_01]: So anyway, that's what this was.
[SPEAKER_01]: They so okay This match first of all.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was a really good match I thought it was probably like the second best match in the show by Claudio and John Moxon
[SPEAKER_01]: Jack Perry hits wears ass for the whole match got a million near falls and countered everything and eventually swore just out of nowhere hits big pressure and gets a pin.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's essentially what happened in the match.
[SPEAKER_01]: That had to ask it's Paul complaining that there wasn't an overrun.
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was just surprised.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that was the match.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it was fine.
[SPEAKER_01]: It went about, I don't know, 12 minutes or something.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it was good match, but I'm not exactly sure what the point is.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's the most random main event.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then after the match, you get to what happened after the match?
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, fist bump.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Swirr, this dastardly healed, the most dangerous man in AWS.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just a good job, kid, maybe next time.
[SPEAKER_01]: Give him a fist pump and then I'm like, everybody's a shade of gray apparently.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, this is stupid.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're gonna have a, we're gonna have a big angle now.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a hangman's gonna come out or
[SPEAKER_01]: Not as good as now to their turn was good up.
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was a beat Perry and start kicking his head in and then hang man and and Brett Brodito would make the save or Omega's gonna show up and he's gonna grab my knees Just will Osprey told you I wasn't here that lion prick or you know, it's something yeah, like no
[SPEAKER_01]: So just ended.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a video.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, right, right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, and this is the best thing on the show like yes, this is what they should have Yeah, should have started the feud with this video.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and and I like I didn't recap the video But the video was awesome like they they basically took you back to their beginning of their careers They showed highlights of them wrestling in like you know gyms and stuff and then you know through Japan and
[SPEAKER_01]: ring of the genre.
[SPEAKER_00]: They showed all star weekend night two in 2015, which one of the I, which I was at?
[SPEAKER_01]: What's that, uh, PWG?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So they got footage of PWG.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's pretty good.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, how would that caliber ever pull that?
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, this is exactly what you had asked for many times.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it was, and they told the story great.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, this was the story that we wanted.
[SPEAKER_01]: No debt providers.
[SPEAKER_01]: No self doubt.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I have to talk a little bit about self doubt in the video, but I have Tony gives me a no cut contract.
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, it was great.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was, I don't know, three minutes, right at the end of the show.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you know what, I think, you know how they say that people are gonna, like, he's gonna lose viewers during a video package?
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I think that that wouldn't happen here because I think everybody watching assumed this video package is gonna be over and we're gonna get something else.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we're gonna get Kenny.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I thought about it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then like, I literally like,
[SPEAKER_01]: And like I'm like it's a show really over and then like I literally have to wait for the next go ahead I was going I had to wait for the next show to start like until I've actually believed the show was over and then You know what I'm saying at yes at Paul's house the clouds parted and a rainbow a double rainbow came out and then I spent 15 minutes trying to send my show notes to
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, but yeah, Matt thought he was surprised it wasn't a super heavy promo show.
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe the fans thought they wanted matches because they never get CEW crowd wanted promos.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think they did.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think the fans were there to cheer.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they were in the promos.
[SPEAKER_01]: They were into Christian.
[SPEAKER_01]: They were into will.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think they turned the audio down during Mercedes, because they might have been afraid of, yes, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Come back, Sasha.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, but I mean, oh, I, I would say because sometimes Mercedes can drop an F bomb or two in Earth.
[SPEAKER_00]: Can that from was great though.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, I love that Mercedes promo.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's great.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so yeah, that was it like and and I imagine we're going to see that video packed again on the pre show for all in maybe even to kick off the show.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they had a music behind it too.
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't recognize the song.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if I don't know anything I was familiar with.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, yeah, but it was that means fine.
[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't greater anything, but Paul, there are no pre show matches announced for this.
[SPEAKER_00]: If we're getting four announcements of pre show Oh, yeah, yeah, that'll happen.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, probably on the ring of honor so tomorrow night they'll announce some buy-and-stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so this nine matches on the main card right now.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, so this I so I haven't finished collision yet.
[SPEAKER_01]: I watched about half of it and I will finish probably tonight the rest of it and I didn't I don't know that this trio's match is actually even official people tell me it is but I don't remember it being announced but we believe it is a multi trio's match for the AW World Trials Championship involving
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the champions, which is good batting the ugly, uh, the demand, the lethal twist.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know the lethal twist will be in there because they just lost that collision match.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they also, but they all, they won on the ring of honor paper.
[SPEAKER_01]: You, they are there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Ring of honor six man champs.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Probably get Shane Taylor for motion somewhere in there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And, uh, the bang bang gang and the dogs.
[SPEAKER_01]: And, uh, probably, you know,
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Who?
[SPEAKER_00]: No.
[SPEAKER_00]: I've decided they changed the booking of this.
[SPEAKER_00]: Really?
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: They don't want to introduce them that way.
[SPEAKER_00]: They want them to be a bigger deal.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think Swerve Spartan is going to be the Jurassic Express.
[SPEAKER_00]: Based on that main event, if that happens,
[SPEAKER_01]: the fans are going to turn on the match if that happens I want I want my props on Twitter please oh yeah but if that happens the fans will be will be chanting for the new day and they're going to turn on this match that's my prediction okay yeah I mean I just can't see bringing them in for the schmaas well that's yeah like I don't like without announcing it ahead of time it just feels weird like not even hinting at it like they never even mentioned it
[SPEAKER_01]: Now they made you something on collision, but I tell you what Jeff, nobody's watching collisions weekend.
[SPEAKER_01]: Nobody.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's it's it's week zero of college football.
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, and and there's also like there's a lot of shows on this weekend.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a UFC while the UFC's during the day, but you know, like I think people are going to have enough wrestling this weekend that they don't need to watch two hours of collision the night before all in.
[SPEAKER_00]: going to hedge for you though, if they do show up in this matches where it's partner, so they're winning the trio's titles.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm going to say that good badly ugly, you're going to retain.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I say they retain if it's not them, which is why I also think it's probably peri and and Luchosaurus.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I mean, I guess the big thing would be Luchosaurus returning, because he has a rest a little long time.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Three way match for the AW International Championship, Kyle Fletcher, Kenosuke DeKeshenko, Zusko Kata, I got a Kata winning.
[SPEAKER_00]: I have changed my mind from DeKeshenko after the last week, so I am with you, and I think Okata uses his screwdriver.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: On Fletcher, on Fletcher.
[SPEAKER_01]: So Matt asked me a question here and I want to answer it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Legitimately, thanks Paul.
[SPEAKER_01]: Paul watches more American progress than any other human on earth.
[SPEAKER_01]: When you watch or you're actually looking at the screen the whole time, it's still that's impressive but crazy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's a most of the time, like, I mean, I'm looking at my phone occasionally.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm in the discord.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm, you know, I'm not really tweeting much during wrestling, but I'm pretty much like probably 80% of the time paying attention to what's going on.
[SPEAKER_01]: WW, it's a little easier to not pay attention, you know, like five to go to the bathroom or something.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll just, you know, I'll leave the bathroom door open and listen, you know, it's nobody here.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's amazing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, so, you know, in the next slide.
[SPEAKER_00]: Barn Paul, what the hell is your problem with dynamite?
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I have to take notes.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, and but I don't look at my computer while I'm taking notes.
[SPEAKER_01]: And sometimes that burns me as we've gone through when I'm reading my notes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes I'm like, in the middle of a paragraph, I got notes from a match.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what happens like an hour later, because somehow my cursor jumped and I didn't notice it.
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, it's just, you know, it's a process, but I enjoy it.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so sorry, you had I forgot who you said.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry, which is a kettle.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, Kada's winning.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, yeah, right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, to fletcher.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, that's the play.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think Fletcher ends up quitting the donkels.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think that's how it is matched.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I think that happens Wednesday, possibly.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, of January, 2026.
[SPEAKER_01]: They take their time with things.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, the next match listed is Kevin Knight versus Darby Allen.
[SPEAKER_01]: Balls count anywhere match to the AWT&T championships.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I've already gone on record and I will not waver from it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think this match is getting changed.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's going to be Kevin Knight against Steve Borden.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think Steve Borden is going to win the title.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll go with that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: I have to get that card back up here and take a look at, uh, yet I'll see, you want Steve Boren's first match.
[SPEAKER_00]: We have false count anywhere walking brawl in a stadium.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they can do all the bells and whistles.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it'd probably be better than just regular match.
[SPEAKER_00]: You don't think the moment would be too big for
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, no, you know what, I mean, he, remember his debut on TV was that revolution match, and he was fine.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to go with you.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think you're, okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Matt, I'll tackle this question when we're done our preview.
[SPEAKER_01]: And because I will, I will, I will, because I'll answer it too.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, divine dominion and the brawling birds for the AW Women's
[SPEAKER_01]: uh... brawling birds are winning yeah it's got to be it's got to be uh... divine to be just had a great run and yeah and got to want making bingo so no offensively in a cross by the no being as money as a solo act oh her willow yes yeah sign me up for that one uh... attack let it be honest with you but i don't think well i mean that could come to come to uh... moxley and oh god i can just imagine techless promos on willow
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I mean, we saw some of it already.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let me know.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you mean, you mean, Megan?
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that, too.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, God.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: That'd be great.
[SPEAKER_01]: Moxley and Nigel for the Continental Cup.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we already talked about this, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Moxley is going to win in some of those inexplicable things I've ever heard.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's going to be, he's going to pull the trigger and he's going to do something to actually Nigel and put him out.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, and we've got immense casino gauntlet match for the future AW World Championship match.
[SPEAKER_01]: The competitors have been out so far on Draw Day, MJF, Champa, and Jericho, and whoever else.
[SPEAKER_01]: And again, I think it was kind of implied that Nick Wayne, Speedball, Commander, and whoever else was in that match are going to be in this as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: I got on Draw Day winning this.
[SPEAKER_00]: Dragon Off's gonna appear, and yes, I'm trying to eat a little is going to win this because MJF doesn't have to win this to still have a title shot.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then I think what's gonna happen, I'm changing my mind.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because I said last night that I think I think MJF is gonna end up wrestling in a ladder match with will for both titles.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think what's going to happen is, MJF is going to wrestle on drudy in a ladder match and it's going to be his title and the contract and and he's going to end up winning.
[SPEAKER_01]: That'll be it all in or it all out.
[SPEAKER_01]: I should say.
[SPEAKER_00]: Actually, you know what, I have to go back on that thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Could I always thought, on Droughty was going to win the dynamite diamond ring?
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he is.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's going to win that, too.
[SPEAKER_01]: But that's at the end of the year.
[SPEAKER_00]: So he's getting the title shot and another title shot?
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I think MJF's going to beat him for the title shot.
[SPEAKER_01]: But then on Droughty's going to beat him later this year and get the ring.
[SPEAKER_00]: And use that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm there for that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm good.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Any other surprises you could see in this going.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I think I think Trump or I mean, I think dragon off trying to think if there's anybody big that needs to return.
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't really think of anyone, but it's probably somebody.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: Is there anybody else big out there that they could bring in?
[SPEAKER_01]: I probably.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but from this last round of cuts that come in.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, there's lots of people,
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know, that I can't even remember like who AWS interest, maybe the chat can help.
[SPEAKER_01]: So if they think of anybody that they want to see in this thing, but I think Dragon Office is the big one that people want to see.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think Dragon that would be the focus for me.
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I think you're getting that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think Leo rushes coming out in this thing to get the pop.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what would be cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, and I think the place would, I think they blow the top off this thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: if somehow Chompo was in there by himself he's like clear the ring or something and Gargano Gargano this place would lose their shit I don't know if that's possible I have no idea but you think that's right I don't know I've seen such a backlash for me W fans about bringing in Gargano uh yeah and I think a lot of fans believe that but I think those people at Wembley would pop their brains out if they if that happened
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, great.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if it can happen.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I probably should.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not expecting it or anything.
[SPEAKER_00]: Any local UK guy?
[SPEAKER_01]: There is, but I just can't think of anyone.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I know there is.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just can't remember who always cut.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like there was so many of them, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: What?
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a greato comes in.
[SPEAKER_00]: He was on a dark match on this show, by the way.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like there was lumus and Trevor Lee.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, those, nobody like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the Chris Island.
[SPEAKER_01]: All the guys on freaking LFG that I watch every week are, are, are like, Dallas.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, honestly, Gallus might not, I mean, that'd be good.
[SPEAKER_01]: Good ad for the Don Carlos.
[SPEAKER_00]: I can see somebody like a Mark Haskin' to get in there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, especially since it got name dropped this week.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and we'll probably get, yeah, as a Nick Wayne, like I think I already said him.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I said, there's, I think there is people that have our due to come back.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just feels like there's some people that we're forgetting about, so.
[SPEAKER_01]: uh... all right then we got uh... cop and cage against the young box for the eight w world tag team championships i think the young box win and then ft r shows up and then they set up a three way between these three and maybe this is where we see the new day if you're theory about taken them out of the trills matches right yes that's my theory is that they show up here after the tag match okay and ft r two are just them
[SPEAKER_00]: Could be both.
[SPEAKER_00]: I also predict that Christian turns on CoP after this.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think yeah, maybe they have one more match before Cope hangs it up, because I think Cope is winding it up.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's actually said that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, either that or he wants to come back to WWE for one last run.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what, I thought about that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think I even said that on the show, but I kind of thought about it after and I don't think that's going to happen.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think Tony's going to get it.
[SPEAKER_00]: He looks so old out there right now.
[SPEAKER_00]: I just think he really does.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I think he's going to do the stink thing and Annie's going to get the kind of like their version of a legends deal and stick around here.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think if he wasn't already in the Hall of Fame, I would see him going back.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but he doesn't need to go back.
[SPEAKER_01]: In less, in less, uh, hunter offers to put him and Christian in, then I could see them both going back because Christian's not in the Hall of Fame yet.
[SPEAKER_01]: For that, I don't think Christianing cares.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't either, he's such a crank anyway.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so you want to pay me, yeah, okay, but, uh, it's not like a priority, um, all right.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then the, the big two, uh, Will and I can get a Mercedes Monday for the women's title.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think we both already said we want Will to win, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want her to win, but she's going to win.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, so you want Mercedes to win?
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a big Mercedes tomorrow.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: I am a huge Mercedes fan, and because I am, that's why I want her to lose.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, I think it'll be good.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's the best call for business for Willow to win.
[SPEAKER_00]: As long as they don't stick a right back with Chris Stattlander, we'll be fine.
[SPEAKER_01]: I will say I'm looking at this lineup.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, there's not a match on here that I think has the, has even a possibility of being anything other than great.
[SPEAKER_01]: Other than maybe, moxley and Nigel.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, because I just worry about Nigel like I don't haven't really seen it, but I don't know how much of that is him or he's selling this supposed injury.
[SPEAKER_00]: I worry a bit about catching coping a little bit plotting.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but the bucks are so good that they'll make up for it in my opinion.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, um, and then Omega and Osprey for the world title, like, my heart hearts, I want Kenny to win, but I know Will needs to win and Will has to win and Will should win.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, Will's going to win.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think we're getting Kenny and O'Cotta at the top of the Don Callis family eventually, but I do think Will Osprey's winning this match.
[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe Kenny goes away for a while, comes back and and he's frustrated and I think Kenny might find a screwdriver and you're right, okay, but will over comes it that would be that actually be a good story.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, and Matt asked a question, I don't know if you saw it, but I will put it up here now he wants to know yes you, but I'll answer to which match you looking forward to other than Mercedes versus will.
[SPEAKER_00]: I got me honest.
[SPEAKER_00]: If Kevin night in Darby Allen goes down as Darby versus Kevin night, I'm looking forward to that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because I think Darby Allen in a maniac falls count anywhere match is going to be super great.
[SPEAKER_00]: Look, I'm a tag team pierced, cage and coping the young bucks for me.
[SPEAKER_01]: Really?
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I'm kind of the opposite.
[SPEAKER_01]: So for me, if Steve Borden ends up replacing Darby, that's the one I'm looking most forward to because I've never seen Steve Borden and have heard good things and I think it could be awesome.
[SPEAKER_00]: But anyway, through that three ways going to be money though.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, yeah, it doesn't matter how bad the storyline is for that.
[SPEAKER_01]: But if if if the steep board and Darby match doesn't happen and if it's just dark being Kevin night, I mean, I think I'm actually great, but it's Kenny and will and even though the build has been terrible.
[SPEAKER_01]: In my opinion like the match is great and and that that made a bit from like video practice was awesome So I'm I'm like I'm all in part in the phrase part in the French or what the pun Part in the pun.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm all in on Omega Osprey even though I've hated the build Just because I know the match is gonna be great.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's probably gonna be the best match.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've seen all year and maybe the best match I've ever seen
[SPEAKER_01]: So I, I'm, yeah, I'm pumped for that, but all that said, I'm still looking most forward to Mercedes and Willow because that build has been incredible and I think the match is going to be incredible too.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm hoping for some sort of weird surprise in that multi-triose match.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, like Jeff Jared and Sutton I'm seeing in somebody.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we could get like Jeff Jared.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think we're getting a conglomeration entry.
[SPEAKER_01]: when if we get like oh yeah yeah well unless they're in the casino gauntlet but no probably like kyle orange and and uh... rady rate or or you know or mark brisco and uh... do you know you could do jeff you could do jeff jaren gallison gallison can be there no there and ml w i think are they okay there any any other tag team that jeff could bring in with like history with the
[SPEAKER_01]: the public voice.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you know, they've been teaming with somebody else.
[SPEAKER_00]: How about, how about, how about, how about, how about, uh, Jarrett, Sotnam and Dustin Rhodes returning.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, hey, you know what?
[SPEAKER_01]: No, Dustin in the Xenogotland.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, so wait, but Dustin and Jarrett, and who else did you say?
[SPEAKER_00]: I had, I had Sotnam, but maybe,
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh God.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so over Jeff Jarrett joins the ops, I need to say yeah, what's that team, it was um, um, it was Mark?
[SPEAKER_01]: No, is it Mark?
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh God, no.
[SPEAKER_01]: Some flash Webster and someone else.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, the social club.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they can team this.
[SPEAKER_00]: But that's Mark Haskell.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to be in the, is he going to be in the, uh, oh, okay, okay, okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Just ask for a kick out of the one-winged Adel.
[SPEAKER_00]: He kicks out of more than one-one angel.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think so.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think so at least one.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, uh, and Matt likes your screwdriver idea.
[SPEAKER_00]: I have a good idea, occasionally.
[SPEAKER_01]: Occasionally, yeah, or wow.
[SPEAKER_01]: He goes and looks for the screwdriver, but it's not there because it'll kind of took it earlier.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you ran the play.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that that was our preview and that so that show is going down on Sunday.
[SPEAKER_01]: I swear to God, I have no idea what time it is like because I'm not watching 10 10 Eastern one Pacific.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, the other way around.
[SPEAKER_01]: Are you the other way around?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, but but I'm yeah, because I'm not watching live anyways.
[SPEAKER_01]: I I don't think I'm going to be able to watch it by Sunday.
[SPEAKER_01]: I will definitely have a watch by next week when we record, but I'm so far behind right now.
[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't even watched AAA from Sunday from Saturday yet.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm still and I still have the TNA paper view raw NXT.
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I got a lot to watch and then there's new stuff coming up.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I will get to it when I get to it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and I don't have to pay for it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_01]: Tony Con and my AEW.
[SPEAKER_01]: So for Jeff, I was going to say Jeff Hawke, Jeff Jarrett.
[SPEAKER_01]: But for Jeff Hawkins, I've been Paul Fontaine and this has been the Dynamite show.