WEBVTT 00:00.071 --> 00:00.211 [SPEAKER_01]: Keith! 00:00.231 --> 00:07.973 [SPEAKER_01]: GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE 00:32.255 --> 00:34.396 [SPEAKER_03]: Welcome everyone to the high carbon podcast. 00:34.716 --> 00:36.696 [SPEAKER_03]: We have a special guest with us tonight. 00:36.776 --> 00:41.098 [SPEAKER_03]: I think we're going to skip what we did this week and get right into it because I'm sure there's lots to talk about. 00:41.798 --> 00:44.178 [SPEAKER_03]: We have Martin Hoover on the show. 00:44.479 --> 00:45.619 [SPEAKER_04]: Hello everybody. 00:46.099 --> 00:51.040 [SPEAKER_03]: So there's lots to talk going on about this crazy knife show going on again round two. 00:52.521 --> 00:53.541 [SPEAKER_03]: What's going on with the show? 00:53.581 --> 00:53.981 [SPEAKER_03]: What's new? 00:54.441 --> 00:54.922 [SPEAKER_03]: It's bigger. 00:55.642 --> 00:56.462 [SPEAKER_04]: It's hopefully better. 00:58.063 --> 00:58.703 [SPEAKER_04]: And it's way bigger. 00:59.484 --> 01:00.364 [SPEAKER_04]: Did I mention it's bigger? 01:02.285 --> 01:10.849 [SPEAKER_04]: Well, we do in the half-time the size from last year in exhibition space and exhibitors. 01:12.730 --> 01:14.311 [SPEAKER_04]: Got a lot of cool new features. 01:14.531 --> 01:16.692 [SPEAKER_04]: We have show-forting outside. 01:16.732 --> 01:17.333 [SPEAKER_04]: We have 01:18.033 --> 01:20.074 [SPEAKER_04]: people doing classes. 01:20.954 --> 01:43.965 [SPEAKER_04]: So, for exactly the ugly voice you heard in the beginning of the video is going to do a class about kitchen knife design or something like this or what a cool grinding to be as hung those going to talk about metallurgy and apex ultra and that was super steels we have a special guest that may be announced later. 01:45.195 --> 01:49.617 [SPEAKER_04]: And we have a demo steal with two other cool classes. 01:49.957 --> 02:01.623 [SPEAKER_04]: They're getting to bladesmiths to talk about forging demos to you grinding it, etching it, et cetera, et cetera, and a super special that I think is pretty cool. 02:02.363 --> 02:04.204 [SPEAKER_04]: It's about straight razors. 02:06.123 --> 02:17.018 [SPEAKER_04]: And so they have to travel from both blades from South Africa coming over to give a class on street racers, how to make a straight razor, how to shave with a straight razor. 02:17.578 --> 02:18.600 [SPEAKER_04]: That's going to be pretty exciting. 02:20.322 --> 02:27.649 [SPEAKER_03]: Otherwise, when will these classes like be taking place and like people just sign up or just go in, how does that work? 02:28.650 --> 02:34.917 [SPEAKER_04]: Since the room that we're having the classes in is not too big, so maybe we feel like 30 to 50 people in there. 02:36.258 --> 02:40.862 [SPEAKER_04]: Depending if these sitting space, like there's gotta be standing in the back. 02:41.523 --> 02:43.125 [SPEAKER_04]: So it's basically the first conference serve. 02:44.847 --> 02:56.660 [SPEAKER_04]: Maybe we get in future possibility for another room that's bigger, but right now it's sadly the only possible way that we can have this, so it's first come first serve. 02:57.861 --> 03:01.585 [SPEAKER_04]: Maybe this will, so it's, you have to be in time. 03:03.287 --> 03:03.988 [SPEAKER_03]: All right, cool. 03:04.448 --> 03:07.029 [SPEAKER_03]: Is any of that stuff on the website, so people know about it yet? 03:07.090 --> 03:08.210 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know. 03:08.250 --> 03:08.731 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not sure. 03:08.751 --> 03:10.692 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's actually the, we teased it. 03:12.333 --> 03:18.356 [SPEAKER_04]: We did a little teasing on it a couple of times, but it hasn't been official yet, because I want to, 03:19.477 --> 03:24.179 [SPEAKER_04]: Uh, when I put it off to each level, I want to have the full list of people with classes there doing, et cetera. 03:24.439 --> 03:29.862 [SPEAKER_04]: So the full picture, so people know what, what they can expect. 03:30.202 --> 03:34.784 [SPEAKER_03]: Cool up to see if I can get somebody to watch my table, I'd like to learn out of shape with a slit in my throat. 03:34.804 --> 03:38.025 [SPEAKER_03]: I was sitting up your hand. 03:38.045 --> 03:39.466 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we don't want to do that again. 03:41.106 --> 03:43.688 [SPEAKER_04]: Hey, but you made a name for yourself last year with that. 03:44.668 --> 03:46.889 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, saved by Hoover's mom, that was cool. 03:49.037 --> 03:56.081 [SPEAKER_04]: She's still proud that she did, that she forced you to go to the hospital. 03:56.101 --> 03:57.361 [SPEAKER_03]: That's usually the way it works with me. 03:57.722 --> 03:59.122 [SPEAKER_03]: If somebody's got it, it was me to go over. 03:59.162 --> 04:00.203 [SPEAKER_03]: So I just wrapped a bar on it. 04:01.080 --> 04:01.360 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 04:02.300 --> 04:05.542 [SPEAKER_03]: Rep tape into the little bit of oil and vodka and then just pass out in the corner. 04:06.302 --> 04:06.522 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 04:07.042 --> 04:08.803 [SPEAKER_03]: Um, you have another event going on. 04:08.823 --> 04:11.864 [SPEAKER_03]: You are sponsoring a table for the edge of hope. 04:12.324 --> 04:13.525 [SPEAKER_03]: Cherry project that we're doing. 04:14.285 --> 04:14.625 [SPEAKER_03]: Um, exactly. 04:14.665 --> 04:18.606 [SPEAKER_03]: If you have any, any, like, details can tell us about the table. 04:18.626 --> 04:20.067 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, where it's going to be or anything like that. 04:20.727 --> 04:29.310 [SPEAKER_04]: of course since Edge of Hope is a project that I really like and that I ordered actually from the first minute as far as I remember. 04:30.291 --> 04:37.514 [SPEAKER_04]: As a maker at least, we gave it a front row table. 04:37.914 --> 04:41.175 [SPEAKER_04]: I think it's like when you walk in the second or 04:46.521 --> 05:05.129 [SPEAKER_03]: Cool, we've been working on a couple of displays, some glass cabinets, but the knives in, and we're working on a way to collect some votes, because what we're gonna do this year is have the visitors of the show, pick out their favorite from the 20 knives that were made by the or donated by the knife makers. 05:06.070 --> 05:12.853 [SPEAKER_03]: And when you have the voting for best knife of show and all the other categories that you're doing, 05:14.134 --> 05:22.059 [SPEAKER_03]: We will be giving away a custom axe made from Pops, Tomahawk, he's also using Domestale in his axe this year, so that's going to be really cool. 05:22.580 --> 05:32.547 [SPEAKER_03]: Hopefully we can do something to take a little bit easier for us with like a QR code and people can just vote online or something that way we don't have to count tickets and figure that out. 05:33.047 --> 05:37.630 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure that's going to be a lot of work for you, but you guys, you got other people working, helping me out to 05:42.253 --> 05:44.594 [SPEAKER_04]: Um, it's not really a bold system. 05:44.634 --> 05:47.935 [SPEAKER_04]: It's more of a discussion that we do for best navigation. 05:48.116 --> 05:48.396 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. 05:48.936 --> 05:51.197 [SPEAKER_04]: So you have it like me and judges and the other judges. 05:51.997 --> 05:53.738 [SPEAKER_04]: And we are discussing like everybody. 05:53.998 --> 05:55.238 [SPEAKER_04]: Like last year we did it this way. 05:55.538 --> 05:56.739 [SPEAKER_04]: Everybody started at the table. 05:57.799 --> 06:02.261 [SPEAKER_04]: And you basically looked for the you took a look at all the blades. 06:03.361 --> 06:06.923 [SPEAKER_04]: And remember which ones or set 06:10.424 --> 06:30.222 [SPEAKER_04]: and so we judged does it in a different category at the start and then we just switched tables and when we were done so like everybody judged his personal favorites of the whole group we had like for kitchen life we had like six knives at the table that we said okay these are the best six now it's fine to best one out of those six 06:31.043 --> 06:36.746 [SPEAKER_04]: So basically, it's gradually decided on which one is the best. 06:36.766 --> 06:42.569 [SPEAKER_04]: We've brought arguments with why this one is better than this one and this one is better than this. 06:42.849 --> 06:45.810 [SPEAKER_04]: So it's not like many others do like a point system. 06:46.991 --> 06:54.735 [SPEAKER_04]: And I think a point system isn't really efficient at this or fair it is because let's say you go to table one. 06:56.975 --> 07:10.137 [SPEAKER_04]: Let's see, for example, at a local Austrian show, they go table to table to table to table and have to clip board with them and they're like, okay, the first table, this is the knife he wants to give us for judging. 07:10.998 --> 07:12.178 [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, yeah, I like it a lot. 07:12.218 --> 07:13.098 [SPEAKER_04]: It's a very nice knife. 07:13.138 --> 07:14.438 [SPEAKER_04]: I give it nine out of 10 points. 07:15.358 --> 07:19.699 [SPEAKER_04]: But then you're at table five and the table five blade is like a hundred times better. 07:21.639 --> 07:24.800 [SPEAKER_04]: But now you only have to pause the bill because you give it 10 out of 10 points. 07:26.576 --> 07:46.637 [SPEAKER_04]: And so like it's not really a fair judging I would say if you see the nice after each other it's like we have to like get a full image of everything that's given to the best life of show category and the select from those given and I already see myself being 07:48.270 --> 08:08.421 [SPEAKER_04]: super stressed out about this because last year we had about 80 exhibitors and there's been 40 something in best kitchen life and I kind of have to feeling that this year with a hundred and 80 exhibitors, it's going to be like over a hundred blades at best kitchen life. 08:09.201 --> 08:10.462 [SPEAKER_04]: So it's going to be terrible. 08:11.403 --> 08:13.624 [SPEAKER_04]: It's going to take us the whole afternoon Saturday. 08:15.093 --> 08:15.753 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's a lot. 08:15.893 --> 08:26.116 [SPEAKER_03]: But I think that you're right, that's so much better system, especially like after you've looked at 40 or 50 different knives, it's hard to remember which one maybe you like. 08:26.136 --> 08:28.476 [SPEAKER_03]: So narrow down, get a couple on the table and choose from now. 08:29.576 --> 08:42.459 [SPEAKER_03]: So to stress you out a little bit more, because me and come on we're thinking about this, if our best of charity knife comes down to a tie, I think the only real way to break the tie is to have you pick the tie at breakers. 08:42.479 --> 08:44.960 [SPEAKER_03]: So if that happens, you got one last decision to make. 08:45.300 --> 08:45.961 [SPEAKER_03]: I can live with that. 08:47.102 --> 08:49.284 [SPEAKER_04]: If mine's not in top two, I'm going to quit it all. 08:51.487 --> 08:56.171 [SPEAKER_04]: That's actually the reason why my company is not allowed to be in best life of show. 08:57.753 --> 09:02.998 [SPEAKER_04]: At any category, because even though if we would have the best life at a table, 09:03.759 --> 09:07.401 [SPEAKER_04]: which with so many makers it's nearly impossible to be. 09:07.942 --> 09:19.609 [SPEAKER_04]: But even if we had the best knife, if I would personally win my own show category, everybody's be like, oh, you just took himself because it's his show and he wants the recognition blah blah blah. 09:20.169 --> 09:23.171 [SPEAKER_04]: So I just said from the beginning, I won't do anything. 09:24.131 --> 09:26.072 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, you can't do that. 09:26.192 --> 09:31.735 [SPEAKER_03]: We had we had Paulie talking about In being worried that maybe he's not going to sell anything this year. 09:31.755 --> 09:39.940 [SPEAKER_03]: I think he's got himself with some high expectations being the person that sold the most knives last year at Nameshwar Austria Paulie's brain some some new stuff to the table, right? 09:41.140 --> 09:42.061 [SPEAKER_03]: Kind of keep the street going 09:43.507 --> 09:47.068 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we talked last week about it. 09:47.428 --> 09:47.868 [SPEAKER_02]: It's fine. 09:47.929 --> 10:01.873 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm worried about more about the demand, as I said, because it's like what more than twice the exhibitors, but you know, customers could be like 20% 30% increase. 10:02.453 --> 10:05.754 [SPEAKER_02]: It won't be double increase, so it's just logical to think about that. 10:06.474 --> 10:12.536 [SPEAKER_02]: We won't sell as much possibly, but definitely I'm bringing some new shit to the table. 10:13.837 --> 10:22.605 [SPEAKER_02]: new update at model, one new model, hopefully it will be like 3 to 4 knives, 4 to 5 maybe. 10:23.545 --> 10:28.730 [SPEAKER_02]: Models and people can do the same thing that he did the last show that he liked so much. 10:29.070 --> 10:30.952 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, assemble their own. 10:32.153 --> 10:33.714 [SPEAKER_02]: So we'll see how that goes. 10:34.135 --> 10:36.477 [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, you know, it's all about demand. 10:37.037 --> 10:37.758 [SPEAKER_02]: So it's fine. 10:38.610 --> 10:44.772 [SPEAKER_04]: If you believe the numbers, we may be even break the record for last year by a lot. 10:45.652 --> 10:52.014 [SPEAKER_04]: If you believe the numbers that we have right now, but break the record, double the record, I want to say double the record. 10:52.814 --> 10:53.735 [SPEAKER_04]: Ten minutes, right? 10:55.952 --> 11:05.979 [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it's going to be more than last year, of course, because so many people hit the phone, so hard last year because everybody's like, yeah, it's the first time it won't be a good show. 11:07.381 --> 11:11.644 [SPEAKER_04]: And then I got like a trillion messages and Instagram and then wherever. 11:12.164 --> 11:14.144 [SPEAKER_04]: of like, oh my god, why did that miss it? 11:14.744 --> 11:16.045 [SPEAKER_04]: Phomo's kicking hard. 11:16.925 --> 11:28.387 [SPEAKER_04]: And just by ticket sales this year, it's, there's so many Americans flying in as visitors that's crazy. 11:29.527 --> 11:39.389 [SPEAKER_04]: And so many like most of the tickets that we sold right now are coming from outside Austria and like half of them from outside of Europe. 11:40.930 --> 11:43.032 [SPEAKER_04]: We sold quite a lot of tickets so far. 11:43.072 --> 11:43.652 [SPEAKER_02]: Interesting. 11:44.033 --> 11:44.433 [SPEAKER_02]: Interesting. 11:44.473 --> 11:44.893 [SPEAKER_02]: We'll see. 11:44.933 --> 11:45.234 [SPEAKER_02]: We'll see. 11:45.674 --> 11:47.996 [SPEAKER_02]: Like last year, it was good. 11:48.456 --> 11:53.921 [SPEAKER_02]: It was buzzing, shit on of people and the most important part, they had money to spend. 11:54.161 --> 11:54.902 [SPEAKER_02]: They had money to spend. 11:54.922 --> 11:58.145 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, this year, this year, it's totally different season. 11:58.785 --> 12:02.929 [SPEAKER_02]: It's after vacation after summer, but it's end of October. 12:02.989 --> 12:05.070 [SPEAKER_02]: So maybe they have one or two pay checks in. 12:05.891 --> 12:08.832 [SPEAKER_04]: we all have to see and it's close to Christmas. 12:10.752 --> 12:12.532 [SPEAKER_04]: That's good, that's smart. 12:12.852 --> 12:28.376 [SPEAKER_04]: We'll have another additional effect while we decide it for end of October because it's close to we didn't want it to go in November because it's going to be cold and rainy and precious markets in shit but end of October especially because Austria's national holiday isn't 12:30.156 --> 12:44.067 [SPEAKER_04]: So, and the show is 24, 25th, and so it's actually perfect because it's around the Austrian national holiday and it's caused a Christmas and further away from vacation season. 12:45.156 --> 12:48.720 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I don't want to be negative, but I'm buying into the hype. 12:49.200 --> 12:53.504 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm buying into the hype, but you know, still not overhyped. 12:53.985 --> 13:01.452 [SPEAKER_02]: If I manage the same sales or similar sales last year, I will be ecstatic if it is better. 13:02.956 --> 13:20.367 [SPEAKER_02]: that I'm coming for a third and a fourth year definitely if you if you allow me in of course yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah probably can we can we make a little bit here right now because 13:21.829 --> 13:24.634 [SPEAKER_03]: Austria is the only knife show that you've ever been to so far. 13:24.935 --> 13:26.979 [SPEAKER_03]: We want to get you to some notice of other shows. 13:27.439 --> 13:33.110 [SPEAKER_03]: If you sell more this year at the show and you have to do another knife show. 13:35.399 --> 13:40.741 [SPEAKER_03]: You have a job with me and the community you were in and not an I've show in Lithuania. 13:40.881 --> 13:41.681 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean like another. 13:41.781 --> 13:42.042 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. 13:42.062 --> 13:42.742 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm sure. 13:42.762 --> 13:43.122 [SPEAKER_02]: Of course. 13:43.622 --> 13:45.823 [SPEAKER_02]: If you don't have any live shows here in Lithuania. 13:46.243 --> 13:49.504 [SPEAKER_02]: The closest one is in Poland, the Central Life Exhibition. 13:50.665 --> 13:51.425 [SPEAKER_02]: But definitely. 13:51.765 --> 13:53.646 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't have a single show in Lithuania. 13:54.126 --> 13:54.726 [SPEAKER_02]: No. 13:54.986 --> 14:00.789 [SPEAKER_02]: If Keith, if I sell one knife more than last year. 14:01.569 --> 14:01.749 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 14:02.189 --> 14:02.829 [SPEAKER_02]: Definitely. 14:03.130 --> 14:03.550 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going. 14:05.048 --> 14:06.654 [SPEAKER_02]: He can do a virtual handshake. 14:06.815 --> 14:07.216 [SPEAKER_02]: It's done. 14:08.460 --> 14:11.069 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, one of the U.S. guys to inspire your table. 14:12.451 --> 14:15.852 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, it's fine, and do it in the next show and they're show after that. 14:15.932 --> 14:16.332 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes. 14:17.032 --> 14:18.793 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh no, I'm scared. 14:20.613 --> 14:21.573 [SPEAKER_02]: What a shame. 14:23.094 --> 14:28.295 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we'll see, I don't think that you would be able to talk them into it. 14:28.815 --> 14:36.377 [SPEAKER_04]: You know, but honestly, aren't we all waiting for the one guy with a suitcase full of cash and just putting it on table and saying, Yeah, take all. 14:37.537 --> 14:41.740 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't care, the it can be many guys with many suitcases. 14:41.900 --> 14:42.380 [SPEAKER_02]: It's fine. 14:42.520 --> 14:43.261 [SPEAKER_02]: It's just just by. 14:43.581 --> 14:44.842 [SPEAKER_02]: Just it does not matter. 14:46.303 --> 14:58.531 [SPEAKER_02]: Sometimes selling to individuals is even more fun because after last show I have some very good customers from Austria that are you know writing to me weekly what new shit I am bringing into. 14:58.851 --> 15:00.072 [SPEAKER_02]: So good exposure. 15:00.692 --> 15:02.353 [SPEAKER_04]: I had one of you nice in my shop a couple 15:05.055 --> 15:11.339 [SPEAKER_04]: uh local customer actually bought it like he was from my time yeah and he came to Sharpen. 15:12.079 --> 15:30.970 [SPEAKER_02]: I just talked about it on I think the last show or the show before that like a couple of weeks before I sent two knives to the strier and I was like bro it just could come to the show don't don't bite on my website it's come to the show and bite me real life but no no no do both do both that's even better 15:31.290 --> 15:33.131 [SPEAKER_04]: by it on the website and come to show. 15:33.612 --> 15:34.052 [SPEAKER_02]: Excellent. 15:34.532 --> 15:37.694 [SPEAKER_02]: And by I hope I hope you did some good job on sharpening it. 15:38.215 --> 15:40.396 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, not as better as you have about you. 15:41.877 --> 15:43.438 [SPEAKER_04]: This is my musical shots fire. 15:44.819 --> 15:48.702 [SPEAKER_03]: So the new location, it's not far away from the other one. 15:48.982 --> 15:50.083 [SPEAKER_03]: Is that right? 15:50.143 --> 15:50.263 [SPEAKER_03]: Or? 15:51.264 --> 15:55.307 [SPEAKER_04]: So if you start driving from the old location to the new location, it's not even 10 minutes. 15:56.302 --> 16:07.169 [SPEAKER_04]: So for most people staying at the classic hotels to be having in the city, it's going to be the same way, like just in a different direction. 16:08.390 --> 16:11.913 [SPEAKER_04]: You don't go out of style, but you drive more into style. 16:11.953 --> 16:14.674 [SPEAKER_04]: So it doesn't change a lot from most people. 16:15.315 --> 16:18.037 [SPEAKER_04]: Honestly, I possibly only changes for me. 16:19.237 --> 16:21.338 [SPEAKER_04]: because I have to drive all across. 16:23.259 --> 16:25.059 [SPEAKER_04]: So it doesn't really matter. 16:25.119 --> 16:27.480 [SPEAKER_04]: You can book the same motels that you stayed in last time. 16:27.500 --> 16:30.721 [SPEAKER_04]: You can book everything the same as you did for the last year. 16:30.741 --> 16:33.722 [SPEAKER_04]: Because it doesn't really make a big difference. 16:34.883 --> 16:36.844 [SPEAKER_04]: Actually, for most people, it will even be easier. 16:37.184 --> 16:42.946 [SPEAKER_03]: The show last year was really good for setting up, especially if you had cards and stuff like me. 16:42.966 --> 16:45.567 [SPEAKER_03]: You could roll right into the doors at the same deal with this new place. 16:46.235 --> 16:47.596 [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, it's all grand slower. 16:48.617 --> 16:49.197 [SPEAKER_04]: All grand fun. 16:49.217 --> 16:51.058 [SPEAKER_04]: This is actually an exhibition hall. 16:52.119 --> 16:57.563 [SPEAKER_04]: Like it's it's it's more a sport hall, but more used to be an exhibition hall. 16:58.523 --> 17:02.146 [SPEAKER_04]: So it's all also all one one four. 17:02.266 --> 17:04.187 [SPEAKER_04]: So everybody is staying at the same room. 17:04.547 --> 17:10.971 [SPEAKER_04]: They have air conditioning for the piece when you're in the in the second room last year. 17:13.873 --> 17:15.956 [SPEAKER_04]: and also ventilation systems we get fresh here. 17:16.597 --> 17:24.906 [SPEAKER_04]: But yeah it's going to be a one big as rule with a shit ton of life makers. 17:24.966 --> 17:30.673 [SPEAKER_03]: One of the other cool things I saw on the website but doesn't really explain anymore it says that you're going to be having a forging area. 17:32.092 --> 18:00.868 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, right in front of the entry that's going to be Oliver Tobin of Tobin machines going to show off his machines, his rolling meal and his grinders I think he will bring as well and we will have a press from rocket blade kills he will bring one and there's going to be the local the school that I went to the blacksmithing school is going to have a couple of 18:02.128 --> 18:13.417 [SPEAKER_04]: uh guys over to showcase and um trying to actually organizing right now maybe some a knife maker who is also going to forge outside. 18:14.378 --> 18:19.602 [SPEAKER_04]: So people can see right from the entry people for changing people doing our our job basically. 18:20.743 --> 18:22.725 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah will there be a stock at a mobile 18:25.508 --> 18:34.042 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm sorry, I don't talk return, but that's extremely racist from you, how about a scene scene, I think. 18:39.032 --> 18:43.233 [SPEAKER_04]: Well, I guess so we have like three bell grinder manufacturers at the show. 18:44.114 --> 18:44.734 [SPEAKER_04]: We have Oliver. 18:44.754 --> 18:54.657 [SPEAKER_04]: We have our sponsored TT grinders and we have Uvid also from that kind of missile and which also showcased his grinders last year to show. 18:55.617 --> 18:56.977 [SPEAKER_04]: So there's going to be a couple grinders. 18:57.817 --> 19:02.999 [SPEAKER_04]: You know that's grind inside, but there will be a lot of grind knives inside, but you can grind. 19:12.697 --> 19:23.541 [SPEAKER_03]: So, speaking of grind is anyway, I think I heard from one of our listeners that you got a new grind of what kind of grind is I you running in the shop because you got a quite a few for your classes, right? 19:37.873 --> 19:39.455 [SPEAKER_04]: six from over. 19:40.898 --> 19:46.368 [SPEAKER_05]: If they're kind of messed up, then we have two normal belt granders. 19:48.853 --> 19:49.073 [SPEAKER_05]: And 19:52.557 --> 19:53.598 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that's pretty basically it. 19:53.618 --> 19:58.541 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, but we're going to get a couple new ones like with a couple new ones. 19:58.561 --> 19:59.201 [SPEAKER_04]: I mean a couple new ones. 19:59.462 --> 19:59.822 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, no wait. 20:00.022 --> 20:03.764 [SPEAKER_04]: I got a new grinder just in last week from people. 20:05.225 --> 20:05.506 [SPEAKER_04]: Really. 20:06.426 --> 20:08.488 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, the miniature one. 20:08.508 --> 20:09.769 [SPEAKER_04]: You had to send it to me for review. 20:12.210 --> 20:36.780 [SPEAKER_04]: I wanted to told them I wanted a big one so I can actually do prop stuff with it and they're like yeah we can't send that out because it's it's not on their giveaways like on their influencer social media or whatever this but he can give me that one like yeah okay let's try it on it's actually super cute is it like the tiny one with like a two centimeter wide belt that 20:42.182 --> 20:42.582 [SPEAKER_03]: All right. 20:42.622 --> 20:47.965 [SPEAKER_03]: You guys, you two, you four, you out of so and grinded on that brand. 20:48.865 --> 20:50.746 [SPEAKER_04]: I thought about doing something like this. 20:50.786 --> 21:00.750 [SPEAKER_04]: Like, yeah, let's try all the V-Board tools that I have, like, four, and then we'll, I'm waiting for them to make power hammer something like this. 21:01.350 --> 21:04.532 [SPEAKER_02]: Just put the put a grinder under the power hammer. 21:05.172 --> 21:05.672 [SPEAKER_02]: There you go. 21:05.872 --> 21:06.472 [SPEAKER_02]: Squish it. 21:07.973 --> 21:08.733 [SPEAKER_02]: It's a great grinder. 21:09.094 --> 21:09.614 [SPEAKER_02]: Don't, don't, 21:11.578 --> 21:19.640 [SPEAKER_04]: We thought about doing this with the Envil, we thought about it, but I didn't want it to be mean to sponsor. 21:20.140 --> 21:21.101 [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it's good content. 21:22.021 --> 21:24.582 [SPEAKER_04]: That's millions of views, millions of views. 21:24.802 --> 21:27.102 [SPEAKER_04]: I suggest that's going to send me the smallest one they have. 21:27.162 --> 21:29.043 [SPEAKER_04]: It's like a two giver or something. 21:30.063 --> 21:33.964 [SPEAKER_04]: Just put it on the power hammer or put it into the fourth red heart and just forge it. 21:34.925 --> 21:37.645 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, the meat for knife out of an end. 21:37.965 --> 21:39.746 [SPEAKER_03]: So you don't have one of the TT grand is yet. 21:40.865 --> 21:44.706 [SPEAKER_04]: Now, I have, I just recently got their sharpening machine last week. 21:45.926 --> 21:47.146 [SPEAKER_04]: No, this week, this week. 21:47.966 --> 21:48.507 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, this week. 21:48.847 --> 21:57.268 [SPEAKER_04]: We got the sharpening machine this week and we are working with it and it's super cool and we're pretty soon going to get to the integrators. 21:57.829 --> 22:02.249 [SPEAKER_04]: That's what I mean with we're going to order some more, but I'm still thinking about if you're going 22:05.310 --> 22:07.531 [SPEAKER_03]: I've never used it, but I've seen it. 22:07.551 --> 22:08.351 [SPEAKER_03]: It looks really cool. 22:08.391 --> 22:17.114 [SPEAKER_03]: I just wasn't sure like a few years ago starting out with the attachments on that, being on the side, if they flex and stuff like that, but it looks like a pretty solid grinder. 22:18.795 --> 22:26.218 [SPEAKER_04]: They showed it to me, because of course the spawns are at the show, and they wanted to know what they were doing, and they were super hyped to show me everything. 22:27.318 --> 22:46.038 [SPEAKER_04]: Uh, at the show like they they said like you've got to take yourself an hour time and we're going to show you all our product in selling in me and so when over to them and it's been like two hours at their table at their booth and they showed me every machine showed me every feature that that they have and for the price. 22:47.955 --> 22:52.096 [SPEAKER_04]: that they sell, this is a magnificent machine. 22:53.456 --> 22:59.657 [SPEAKER_04]: The build quality is a dream, and I'm not saying that because they're a sponsor, I'm saying that because it's really a nice machine. 22:59.677 --> 23:06.618 [SPEAKER_04]: Like I was super surprised, because the grinders are like 15, 1800 bucks or something like this. 23:08.599 --> 23:16.040 [SPEAKER_04]: And there's no vibrations at the table, there's no flex, there's no nothing. 23:18.663 --> 23:34.912 [SPEAKER_04]: For me, I've never worked on one, but just what I saw and what it showed me and what I tried out myself, especially the height difference tool that they have interesting, that they're just when yeah, it's such a cool thing, such a cool feature. 23:35.592 --> 23:41.335 [SPEAKER_03]: And they got, I think an extra outlet plugged like that to run light off over water pumps, all the machines. 23:42.336 --> 23:43.356 [SPEAKER_04]: Even the small one, 23:47.099 --> 23:52.643 [SPEAKER_04]: Uh, it has a plug under it just for the lights and that's genius. 23:52.683 --> 24:05.894 [SPEAKER_03]: Are you because know what a grind does have that just for you know, I always hook up an extra and end up taking one part and put it in an extra socket or plug hangin up for the lights because I like them to come on with the VFD at the same time, school feature. 24:06.555 --> 24:09.497 [SPEAKER_03]: Probably have you worked with the background of before? 24:11.005 --> 24:11.666 [SPEAKER_02]: That's it now. 24:12.267 --> 24:18.454 [SPEAKER_02]: I only work with Pavel's grinders from build grinders.pl But they are no sponsor of the show. 24:18.915 --> 24:19.436 [SPEAKER_02]: You know what? 24:19.816 --> 24:21.018 [SPEAKER_02]: Are the sponsors of the show. 24:21.912 --> 24:45.502 [SPEAKER_02]: Scans, scans, scans, scans, also made in Paul and MiniHealth.io, the sponsor, the show, a forward work against amazing quality and many different sizes go to MiniHealth.io and pick your next skill, which will be amazing, super easy to maintain, and you can choose from different controllers, which ever suits your need and from different bricks on the inside. 24:45.562 --> 24:48.564 [SPEAKER_02]: It if you don't find a size that fits your need. 24:49.589 --> 24:58.104 [SPEAKER_02]: I can shoot the medium, or maybe shoot the manual, but as I can build you something custom for short, small EDCs or whatever, and they get hot! 24:58.765 --> 25:00.385 [SPEAKER_02]: Very quick, very, very quick. 25:00.445 --> 25:04.026 [SPEAKER_02]: You can buy them in three phase and it's easy, easy, easy. 25:04.046 --> 25:08.687 [SPEAKER_02]: Quick and hot and you can hear three to your stainless steel, carbon steel, blah, blah, blah, everything. 25:09.187 --> 25:12.908 [SPEAKER_02]: Miniel.u and a check out, please do remember, use carbon five. 25:13.268 --> 25:27.872 [SPEAKER_02]: The word carbon and the number five to say five percent on your next kill, which is, again, super affordable, but you can spend it on, that maybe some stealing make an eye fend, you know, you're getting some more of that profit that you're gonna make with such a good kill. 25:28.732 --> 25:32.234 [SPEAKER_02]: So miniL.io because they got the next kill for you. 25:32.434 --> 25:34.395 [SPEAKER_02]: And now my lads back to the show. 25:35.056 --> 25:42.900 [SPEAKER_03]: So last year after the first night at the show, it was a little get together where you did the word ceremony and stuff and everybody got things to eat. 25:43.460 --> 25:45.761 [SPEAKER_03]: You had awesome catering service here. 25:45.781 --> 25:51.965 [SPEAKER_03]: They had schnitzels like the size of a dinner plate and I asked them if I could have a small one and they were like, no, you eat the whole thing. 25:54.046 --> 25:59.249 [SPEAKER_03]: We do in the same thing again, is our dinner at the awards ceremony and is everybody. 26:00.590 --> 26:03.792 [SPEAKER_04]: Actually, the same thing has last year, except for the band. 26:04.752 --> 26:05.873 [SPEAKER_04]: We ditched the band. 26:08.354 --> 26:10.316 [SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, it's going to be pretty much the same thing. 26:11.196 --> 26:12.557 [SPEAKER_04]: Same thing, same caterer. 26:13.077 --> 26:15.959 [SPEAKER_04]: Same caterer is also doing the show this year. 26:17.741 --> 26:19.103 [SPEAKER_04]: So he's catering at the show. 26:20.184 --> 26:30.497 [SPEAKER_04]: Also, for everybody with the sweet tooth, this will be the last chance ever, did you can get a sweet pastry made by Mama Hubert. 26:31.818 --> 26:31.979 [SPEAKER_04]: Ever. 26:31.999 --> 26:32.619 [SPEAKER_04]: Why the last time. 26:33.701 --> 26:35.383 [SPEAKER_04]: She's quitting the thing after it. 26:36.304 --> 26:37.105 [SPEAKER_04]: She's going to start forging. 26:49.253 --> 26:53.117 [SPEAKER_04]: No, she just said she did it for 10 years and she said she's she had enough. 26:54.238 --> 26:59.323 [SPEAKER_04]: It's it's time to to find something else and do something else that she likes. 27:00.384 --> 27:06.510 [SPEAKER_04]: So it's going to be nice to all street the last chance for sweet mama who were pastries. 27:07.190 --> 27:08.331 [SPEAKER_04]: And she makes some good pastries. 27:08.952 --> 27:09.673 [SPEAKER_04]: So okay. 27:10.754 --> 27:12.195 [SPEAKER_04]: There's a reason why I'm fed as fuck. 27:13.729 --> 27:17.331 [SPEAKER_03]: So that means I can take the ignition system back from her and install it. 27:17.351 --> 27:27.718 [SPEAKER_04]: I was out with Trump at no, because this whole, because I get older, the thing that she, like the rooms and stuff that she uses is mine then. 27:28.829 --> 27:29.269 [SPEAKER_03]: New office. 27:29.869 --> 27:33.811 [SPEAKER_04]: Let's talk about this storage area because you're going to build a shop front to you. 27:34.251 --> 27:39.573 [SPEAKER_04]: So it's storage area for the shop front and stuff and it's important to get air conditioning in a shop front. 27:40.213 --> 27:44.175 [SPEAKER_03]: So you people will be able to come directly to your shop and see finish knives and stuff to buy. 27:44.655 --> 27:44.815 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 27:45.555 --> 27:45.695 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 27:46.015 --> 27:46.596 [SPEAKER_04]: Cool. 27:46.736 --> 28:02.520 [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, there's some weird, you know, I'm a king of side quests as some people already called me and like a knife shop and like dealing with other people's knives is another of the side quests that's still in my list. 28:03.441 --> 28:09.123 [SPEAKER_04]: So maybe I'm going to buy a few from those upper Austrian messaged meat, uh, 28:12.817 --> 28:17.800 [SPEAKER_04]: Albert is not reacting because he's eating right now. 28:18.060 --> 28:24.804 [SPEAKER_04]: Maybe some from this little guy in Lithuania and some other cool knife makers. 28:25.265 --> 28:27.166 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to resell them maybe one day. 28:27.186 --> 28:27.906 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know. 28:28.747 --> 28:34.650 [SPEAKER_04]: It's like, my list of things to I want to do is like too long to again do anything at all. 28:35.291 --> 28:37.392 [SPEAKER_04]: Instead of one two three block on your microphone. 28:38.012 --> 28:38.513 [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, it is. 28:41.455 --> 29:03.370 [SPEAKER_02]: It's a long story, I look, I bought this microphone, it's a great microphone, it's fucking great microphone for the money and I thought, well I might buy a nice boomer and I bought a boomer and apparently these arms have a maximum capacity and apparently a minimum capacity for the weight so the microphone is too light and it flies away. 29:04.693 --> 29:10.696 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, so, yes, there's a one to three block zip tight, it works fine. 29:11.017 --> 29:12.698 [SPEAKER_02]: It's good, it's hilarious. 29:13.298 --> 29:16.420 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we are thinking of putting some sponsors here, you know, we're not. 29:16.460 --> 29:17.180 [SPEAKER_02]: That's not a parody. 29:17.840 --> 29:19.662 [SPEAKER_02]: When we finally have some video feed to know. 29:19.982 --> 29:20.342 [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah. 29:21.456 --> 29:21.816 [SPEAKER_02]: Big brain. 29:22.436 --> 29:23.317 [SPEAKER_04]: Red and engineering. 29:23.977 --> 29:24.497 [SPEAKER_04]: My favorite. 29:25.218 --> 29:27.579 [SPEAKER_04]: So Martin, would you like to play a game? 29:28.539 --> 29:29.059 [SPEAKER_04]: Of course. 29:29.159 --> 29:30.860 [SPEAKER_04]: Well, all this like to play a game. 29:30.880 --> 29:32.601 [SPEAKER_02]: I like to gamble. 29:33.201 --> 29:34.021 [SPEAKER_02]: You like to gamble. 29:34.121 --> 29:34.821 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, excellent. 29:35.082 --> 29:35.522 [SPEAKER_02]: Excellent. 29:35.982 --> 29:36.382 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, my. 29:36.722 --> 29:37.082 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. 29:37.202 --> 29:37.463 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. 29:37.543 --> 29:38.243 [SPEAKER_02]: I need to put them. 29:38.363 --> 29:39.243 [SPEAKER_02]: I need to put them. 29:40.244 --> 29:40.564 [SPEAKER_02]: One of. 29:41.124 --> 29:41.304 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. 29:41.324 --> 29:41.484 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. 29:42.024 --> 29:42.325 [SPEAKER_02]: All right. 29:42.345 --> 29:42.845 [SPEAKER_02]: So the game is. 29:43.565 --> 29:44.106 [SPEAKER_02]: this or that. 29:44.486 --> 29:45.167 [SPEAKER_02]: Brilliant game. 29:45.627 --> 29:47.690 [SPEAKER_02]: Nobody ever invented it before me. 29:47.970 --> 29:48.911 [SPEAKER_02]: It's the best game ever. 29:48.931 --> 29:50.072 [SPEAKER_02]: La-La-La-La. 29:50.312 --> 29:51.113 [SPEAKER_02]: It's called this or that. 29:51.353 --> 29:59.422 [SPEAKER_02]: It's a quick round of this or that you choose one thing quickly without any nuances and then you go back and maybe talk about one or the other. 30:00.503 --> 30:00.944 [SPEAKER_02]: Are you ready? 30:01.705 --> 30:01.985 [SPEAKER_02]: Kind of. 30:02.810 --> 30:04.392 [SPEAKER_02]: Kind of, you are the only one playing. 30:04.412 --> 30:06.374 [SPEAKER_02]: Therefore, I'll go on in the past. 30:06.474 --> 30:10.077 [SPEAKER_02]: Guests are like, who is the other one who is guessing? 30:10.177 --> 30:11.258 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, okay, let's go. 30:12.079 --> 30:13.260 [SPEAKER_02]: Full tang or hidden tang. 30:13.921 --> 30:14.301 [SPEAKER_02]: Hint tang. 30:16.163 --> 30:17.845 [SPEAKER_02]: A flat grind or whole grind. 30:18.586 --> 30:18.826 [SPEAKER_02]: Flat. 30:20.170 --> 30:22.311 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, clip point or drop point. 30:22.851 --> 30:23.251 [SPEAKER_02]: Drop point. 30:25.152 --> 30:32.536 [SPEAKER_02]: And Stomach or Saturn, Saturn, unexpected choice, my friend, forging or stock removal. 30:32.576 --> 30:35.237 [SPEAKER_02]: Forging, terrible choice. 30:35.457 --> 30:41.660 [SPEAKER_02]: Bear or whiskey, whiskey, morning or evening, evening. 30:43.495 --> 30:45.778 [SPEAKER_02]: gambling or a religion, gambling. 30:48.021 --> 30:49.763 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I'm with both teams and his heads. 30:50.704 --> 30:51.284 [SPEAKER_02]: Dits are ass. 30:53.347 --> 30:54.228 [SPEAKER_02]: Dits are ass. 30:54.729 --> 30:55.970 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, shoot. 30:56.010 --> 30:56.571 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that's me. 30:57.292 --> 30:58.894 [SPEAKER_02]: Ass. 30:59.793 --> 31:02.855 [SPEAKER_02]: Jackie Chan or Jean-Claude Vandam, Jackie Chan. 31:03.895 --> 31:04.496 [SPEAKER_02]: Jackie Chan. 31:04.936 --> 31:07.137 [SPEAKER_02]: Will Stelter or Dennis Tyrell? 31:08.318 --> 31:09.498 [SPEAKER_02]: Fuck, I'm friends with both. 31:11.700 --> 31:12.260 [SPEAKER_02]: Humble break. 31:12.840 --> 31:13.801 [SPEAKER_02]: Asked, I'd not plead of faith. 31:14.481 --> 31:15.162 [SPEAKER_04]: No, never. 31:15.662 --> 31:17.903 [SPEAKER_02]: OK, you're taking it to our time-swheel. 31:18.103 --> 31:20.144 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, take it to the right choice. 31:20.304 --> 31:20.825 [SPEAKER_02]: OK, now. 31:21.947 --> 31:26.328 [SPEAKER_02]: It is two that are submitted by our past guests. 31:26.728 --> 31:32.690 [SPEAKER_02]: This one is by Ryan Kokli from Kokli knife company, steak or ribs, steak, steak. 31:33.810 --> 31:38.591 [SPEAKER_02]: And by Walker knife company, stone sharpener or belt sharpener. 31:39.052 --> 31:39.332 [SPEAKER_02]: STEM. 31:40.352 --> 31:40.632 [SPEAKER_02]: STEM. 31:41.272 --> 31:42.432 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, that's it. 31:42.692 --> 31:43.312 [SPEAKER_02]: That's it, my friend. 31:43.612 --> 31:44.013 [SPEAKER_02]: It's over. 31:44.513 --> 31:45.033 [SPEAKER_02]: No, you're funny. 31:45.113 --> 31:45.633 [SPEAKER_02]: I like that. 31:46.113 --> 31:46.453 [SPEAKER_02]: It's fine. 31:46.613 --> 31:46.953 [SPEAKER_02]: It's fine. 31:47.013 --> 31:47.993 [SPEAKER_02]: Painless. 31:48.613 --> 31:51.534 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, you just like the first one is pretty interesting, I think. 31:51.994 --> 31:53.094 [SPEAKER_02]: Full tango or hidden tango. 31:53.234 --> 31:54.274 [SPEAKER_02]: You do both. 31:55.054 --> 31:56.435 [SPEAKER_02]: You might remember correctly, right? 31:56.755 --> 31:59.755 [SPEAKER_02]: So what's the preference with the hidden tango? 31:59.975 --> 32:01.536 [SPEAKER_04]: I like to make the hands more. 32:03.816 --> 32:09.057 [SPEAKER_04]: I think the aesthetics of a full tango of a nice shape full tango handle. 32:10.697 --> 32:32.928 [SPEAKER_04]: Um, give some nice a little bit of extra, uh, sex appeal, let's say, but making them and personally using them, I prefer hidden tanks with my, as I usually do the classic or cacophon, my style of handle, like the three facets on top and rounded at the bottom. 32:33.688 --> 32:33.888 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 32:34.349 --> 32:35.369 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 32:35.990 --> 32:38.732 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, with full tank, you can just play a little bit more. 32:38.772 --> 32:40.773 [SPEAKER_02]: You can do the upper tank, also. 32:41.694 --> 32:42.014 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 32:42.434 --> 32:45.517 [SPEAKER_04]: That's one benefit of a hunter that I could do with the other. 32:46.317 --> 32:46.517 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 32:46.537 --> 32:46.898 [SPEAKER_02]: All right. 32:46.998 --> 32:47.218 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. 32:48.739 --> 32:50.260 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, what could you do? 32:50.881 --> 32:52.622 [SPEAKER_02]: What could you do with the hidden tank more? 32:53.062 --> 32:53.823 [SPEAKER_02]: It's just everything. 32:53.843 --> 32:54.944 [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you. 32:55.044 --> 32:55.564 [SPEAKER_02]: You do it. 32:56.104 --> 32:56.585 [SPEAKER_02]: It's easy. 32:56.645 --> 32:58.046 [SPEAKER_02]: Double method, boom, done. 33:02.647 --> 33:12.833 [SPEAKER_02]: you can do I take the, okay, multi-part, okay, okay, I get it, okay, but it's, it's not a hidden thing then, is it, if it there is a butt gap? 33:14.514 --> 33:16.235 [SPEAKER_02]: Sure, sure is, because the tang is hidden. 33:17.496 --> 33:17.776 [SPEAKER_04]: Okay. 33:17.997 --> 33:23.641 [SPEAKER_04]: It's just a screw in the back and it has to be a screw cap in the back and also be there. 33:24.422 --> 33:24.702 [SPEAKER_04]: Okay. 33:24.962 --> 33:25.203 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. 33:25.463 --> 33:28.265 [SPEAKER_02]: You got me, but it's pretty good argumentation. 33:28.285 --> 33:30.948 [SPEAKER_02]: I hand you down way more interesting. 33:31.028 --> 33:32.809 [SPEAKER_04]: I have this discussion about times before. 33:32.829 --> 33:36.712 [SPEAKER_04]: So I got my my things down. 33:37.373 --> 33:38.714 [SPEAKER_02]: Guns blazing prepared. 33:39.935 --> 33:41.276 [SPEAKER_02]: Stomach or satan. 33:42.097 --> 33:44.859 [SPEAKER_02]: You do a lot of stone wash blades if I don't do so much. 33:46.731 --> 33:49.714 [SPEAKER_02]: I haven't done a stone wash finish in seven years. 33:50.374 --> 33:50.915 [SPEAKER_02]: Seven years. 33:51.095 --> 33:55.059 [SPEAKER_02]: Didn't you do like tanto blades, EDC blades that were stone washed? 33:55.379 --> 33:56.780 [SPEAKER_04]: No, they were just circuited. 33:57.381 --> 34:01.384 [SPEAKER_04]: They're circuited or accomplished. 34:01.745 --> 34:02.786 [SPEAKER_02]: So it's all satin. 34:02.946 --> 34:03.867 [SPEAKER_04]: It's all satin, baby. 34:04.327 --> 34:04.928 [SPEAKER_02]: Basically, yeah. 34:05.608 --> 34:07.890 [SPEAKER_02]: And one was still satin as the way. 34:10.353 --> 34:12.655 [SPEAKER_02]: Satin or hand-sounding. 34:13.117 --> 34:32.500 [SPEAKER_04]: No, I'm saddened, saddened, saddened, saddened, saddened, saddened, saddened, saddened, saddened, saddened, saddened, saddened, saddened, saddened, saddened, saddened, saddened, saddened, saddened, saddened, saddened, saddened, saddened, saddened, saddened, saddened, saddened, saddened, saddened, saddened, saddened, saddened, saddened, saddened, saddened, saddened, saddened, saddened, saddened, saddened, saddened, saddened, saddened, saddened, saddened, saddened, saddened, saddened, saddened, saddened, saddened, saddened, saddened, saddened, saddened 34:33.984 --> 34:36.766 [SPEAKER_04]: the benefits and the two blades this week. 34:36.906 --> 34:38.507 [SPEAKER_02]: The benefit, they look nice. 34:38.887 --> 34:40.108 [SPEAKER_02]: The negative you have to do it. 34:40.288 --> 34:41.950 [SPEAKER_02]: You have to do it. 34:42.350 --> 34:44.151 [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, because for me, I'm happy people do it. 34:46.013 --> 34:46.613 [SPEAKER_04]: Most of the times. 34:47.474 --> 34:48.795 [SPEAKER_02]: If they are happy, they are happy. 34:49.497 --> 34:52.420 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I wouldn't work long. 34:52.660 --> 34:54.662 [SPEAKER_02]: It does not matter how much would you pay. 34:55.682 --> 34:57.204 [SPEAKER_02]: I would still not work long. 34:57.664 --> 34:58.345 [SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't matter. 34:58.485 --> 34:59.946 [SPEAKER_02]: If I'm safe, thank you. 35:00.126 --> 35:04.110 [SPEAKER_04]: A month, I'm so happy that Chris doesn't really mind. 35:05.171 --> 35:13.238 [SPEAKER_04]: He hands in the six copper Damascus blades with apex ultra core yesterday. 35:15.021 --> 35:20.437 [SPEAKER_04]: And he still didn't complain as much as I do as to have a blade of normal Damascus. 35:22.783 --> 35:30.727 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, you're abusing your workers, and yes, the authorities are terrible. 35:30.967 --> 35:35.129 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry, it's a subject slavery, slavery, exactly. 35:35.189 --> 35:38.890 [SPEAKER_02]: Forging or stock removal, so definitely, definitely forging. 35:39.390 --> 35:46.133 [SPEAKER_04]: Definitely, not even a single thing in my mind that would change about them. 35:46.313 --> 35:47.934 [SPEAKER_04]: Even though you stock removal blades, 35:49.469 --> 35:51.851 [SPEAKER_04]: If I can forge it, I forge it. 35:52.452 --> 36:00.099 [SPEAKER_02]: Have you ever thought about doing the monolith kind of knife that went around us to maximize the forge forging? 36:00.499 --> 36:08.926 [SPEAKER_04]: I did something kind of similar in many years ago, but it's not really my style, I don't really. 36:09.407 --> 36:09.827 [SPEAKER_04]: It's cool. 36:11.348 --> 36:13.330 [SPEAKER_04]: I like what he's doing, but it's 36:17.765 --> 36:36.610 [SPEAKER_02]: But you could see more like you know, I'm a red bull guy and this is more coffee, so Interesting, okay More coffee, okay street up cooking Sure, Biar or whiskey not a beer guy or just the whiskey is taking the I can't anymore sadly 36:37.770 --> 37:00.283 [SPEAKER_04]: uh my stomach is a little fucked up um i drank a lot of beer i like beer beer's good beer's nice but my stomach is it's problems with beer sometimes it depends on the beer and it depends on the days on it there's days where drink half of a beer and my stomach is like nope you don't and then i have days where i can like drink 37:04.245 --> 37:09.347 [SPEAKER_02]: So it sounds like you are about to hit 30, I just got the opportunity. 37:09.807 --> 37:11.508 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so my point is probably yeah. 37:12.088 --> 37:15.790 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, nobody has it for many years now and it's it's kind of annoying actually. 37:16.490 --> 37:23.553 [SPEAKER_04]: And as the Austrian dudes in here know most, like it's kind of a cider, but no bubbles. 37:24.754 --> 37:25.514 [SPEAKER_04]: I can't drink that shit. 37:25.614 --> 37:27.955 [SPEAKER_04]: I get the shit from it sadly, even though I like it alone. 37:28.395 --> 37:32.157 [SPEAKER_04]: But my stomach is is a little pity bitch about that. 37:32.997 --> 37:36.942 [SPEAKER_04]: But, since I don't really drink any more anyways, it doesn't really matter to me. 37:37.984 --> 37:40.187 [SPEAKER_04]: But I like to enjoy a glass of whiskey in a good cigar. 37:41.028 --> 37:42.429 [SPEAKER_02]: Do you have a favorite whiskey? 37:43.170 --> 37:44.212 [SPEAKER_02]: You are go to a whiskey. 37:46.200 --> 38:02.685 [SPEAKER_04]: My go-to, if I don't know what to drink, is a clean, fitted, Scottish one, but not the classic one, the 12-year-old that you can buy at this grocery store, the 2018 year-old that you can only get order or get it in the metro. 38:03.946 --> 38:04.966 [SPEAKER_04]: That's actually pretty good one. 38:05.966 --> 38:08.247 [SPEAKER_04]: And the one that I got from a customer 38:13.788 --> 38:15.229 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I have to pull in the workshop. 38:16.370 --> 38:22.496 [SPEAKER_02]: So if anybody wants to gift you a bottle of whiskey, the whiskey should be at least 18 years old. 38:22.916 --> 38:23.757 [SPEAKER_02]: So legal age. 38:24.638 --> 38:25.739 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, legal age is good. 38:26.700 --> 38:33.166 [SPEAKER_04]: And it's like, you know, since I'm 30 now, like over the legal age would be preferred here. 38:33.986 --> 38:34.207 [SPEAKER_04]: And, 38:37.619 --> 38:40.641 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I like the more smoother ones. 38:40.681 --> 38:43.783 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't like the ones that burn your fucking mouth apart. 38:44.163 --> 38:45.204 [SPEAKER_04]: I like the smooth ones. 38:45.224 --> 38:47.825 [SPEAKER_04]: I like the ease of drinking having a cigar with it. 38:48.726 --> 38:51.728 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's the ones like you don't want something in your face. 38:52.128 --> 38:57.031 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I don't think the world in your in my face is a glass of whiskey in the cigar. 38:58.013 --> 38:58.313 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 38:58.994 --> 38:59.394 [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly. 39:01.015 --> 39:02.837 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, morning or evening. 39:03.297 --> 39:06.119 [SPEAKER_02]: I think you are known as a chronic night owl. 39:06.560 --> 39:06.740 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 39:07.300 --> 39:08.461 [SPEAKER_02]: Everybody's speaking about that. 39:08.501 --> 39:11.704 [SPEAKER_02]: That you are as late as it gets. 39:11.784 --> 39:13.705 [SPEAKER_02]: Don't call marks with my name. 39:15.126 --> 39:16.407 [SPEAKER_02]: I will be barely away. 39:17.427 --> 39:19.809 [SPEAKER_02]: That is adequate, it's fine, it's fine. 39:20.129 --> 39:25.393 [SPEAKER_02]: Do you take a lot a long time to wake up up until you walk him up or just like go down? 39:25.433 --> 39:27.275 [SPEAKER_04]: I'll take a shit and then it's good, usually. 39:28.496 --> 39:31.118 [SPEAKER_02]: First mouth, coffee, pop, no, no, you're done. 39:31.878 --> 39:32.839 [SPEAKER_02]: Getting up, shit. 39:33.760 --> 39:34.300 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, shit. 39:34.420 --> 39:36.101 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I'm in texting every day. 39:37.102 --> 39:38.182 [SPEAKER_03]: Thanks everyone for that. 39:38.202 --> 39:41.104 [SPEAKER_04]: And texting everyone, reacting to memes and sending memes. 39:41.584 --> 39:51.108 [SPEAKER_04]: So if you get, if it's like eight, eight in the morning and just suddenly get a wave of a free useful Instagram for me, you know, I'm hoping. 39:53.389 --> 39:54.270 [SPEAKER_02]: like clockwork. 39:54.630 --> 39:59.694 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so you cannot sleep in because you will miss the time and you will not be. 39:59.814 --> 40:04.419 [SPEAKER_04]: I sometimes sleep in and it's almost funny because Christmas meant boy, Ambrose. 40:07.481 --> 40:09.924 [SPEAKER_04]: Any time I'm late, he's checking if I send some reals. 40:12.446 --> 40:18.171 [SPEAKER_04]: If I didn't send a single real till E30 in the morning, he's giving me a WhatsApp, like, 40:20.524 --> 40:22.766 [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, I mean, good employee. 40:23.026 --> 40:23.526 [SPEAKER_02]: Good employees. 40:23.546 --> 40:23.906 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, fine. 40:24.007 --> 40:24.507 [SPEAKER_02]: The best good. 40:24.767 --> 40:26.168 [SPEAKER_02]: You're a life. 40:26.248 --> 40:28.990 [SPEAKER_02]: Jackie Chan or Jean Claude Van Damme, you chose Jackie Chan. 40:29.370 --> 40:29.970 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 40:30.070 --> 40:30.711 [SPEAKER_02]: The wrong team. 40:30.851 --> 40:31.071 [SPEAKER_02]: Why? 40:31.231 --> 40:32.392 [SPEAKER_02]: Why did you choose Jackie Chan? 40:32.812 --> 40:37.695 [SPEAKER_04]: I like him both, but I'm a big fan of Rasha, where the movie series. 40:37.775 --> 40:37.976 [SPEAKER_04]: Mm-hmm. 40:38.716 --> 40:40.217 [SPEAKER_04]: So that's why it was Jackie Chan. 40:40.985 --> 40:46.429 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, okay, so not a fan on the splits on Volvo trucks That's my old trucks. 40:47.070 --> 40:47.950 [SPEAKER_02]: You like old trucks. 40:48.030 --> 40:58.538 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, I mean, I am I'm more of a Jean-Claude van Damkei Jigchan and also the great song from Paul's little Tire. 40:59.098 --> 41:10.187 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, definitely Um, will stelter or Dennis Tyrell you chose will stelter I chose what will stelter 41:11.131 --> 41:12.892 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah, I can both. 41:13.192 --> 41:14.693 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm good friends with both. 41:14.793 --> 41:18.255 [SPEAKER_04]: Terrell is a nice guy with us at a cool dude. 41:21.457 --> 41:21.897 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know. 41:22.377 --> 41:27.740 [SPEAKER_04]: I like to make fun of with sometimes he likes to make fun of me sometimes. 41:27.820 --> 41:28.961 [SPEAKER_04]: It's like more of a 41:30.608 --> 41:33.230 [SPEAKER_04]: And yeah, I don't know. 41:33.790 --> 41:36.712 [SPEAKER_04]: I like in both, they're both cool dudes, they're both an incredible makers. 41:38.073 --> 41:40.555 [SPEAKER_04]: I prefer wills videos a little bit more. 41:43.397 --> 41:56.446 [SPEAKER_04]: Then this is though are a little bit more educational where wills are more usually more the kind of enjoyment, kind of the entertainment kind of videos. 41:58.507 --> 42:14.743 [SPEAKER_04]: And also, okay, okay, yeah, and that also a big part of Will is like he got me should face drunk and got me to waffle house at 2 a.m. and paid and bought a waffle in the burger for me, so that's a good plus part for Will as well. 42:15.423 --> 42:19.664 [SPEAKER_02]: Before we proceed could you could I ask you to stop playing with the fucking knife? 42:20.384 --> 42:21.685 [SPEAKER_02]: Albert will fucking kill you. 42:22.105 --> 42:22.385 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. 42:23.085 --> 42:23.505 [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you. 42:24.125 --> 42:24.445 [SPEAKER_02]: It's good. 42:24.625 --> 42:24.965 [SPEAKER_02]: It's fine. 42:27.326 --> 42:28.566 [SPEAKER_02]: Sorry Albert. 42:28.806 --> 42:31.327 [SPEAKER_02]: So that's okay. 42:31.347 --> 42:36.108 [SPEAKER_02]: Will stilter as I as far as I understand way better do then stay real. 42:36.228 --> 42:36.888 [SPEAKER_02]: You don't like him. 42:37.148 --> 42:37.788 [SPEAKER_02]: You don't like him. 42:38.168 --> 42:39.009 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah. 42:41.069 --> 42:42.831 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, it's like, what you like will more. 42:43.091 --> 42:49.036 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, then if you have to choose between Jackie Chan and Will Stelter and what kind of conditions given. 42:49.297 --> 42:50.478 [SPEAKER_04]: No, no, my distance. 42:50.778 --> 42:51.579 [SPEAKER_04]: No, my distance. 42:52.039 --> 42:55.923 [SPEAKER_04]: To hang out with, to drink with or to work with. 42:56.703 --> 42:58.625 [SPEAKER_04]: Ball to botch all of them. 42:59.346 --> 42:59.746 [SPEAKER_04]: Not to botch. 42:59.766 --> 43:00.226 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, we will. 43:01.107 --> 43:09.170 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, yeah, he I think will would be more useful in the zombie apocalypse kind of setting Yeah, for Jackie Chan. 43:09.390 --> 43:11.771 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, so all the change in his old now. 43:12.452 --> 43:29.639 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's all this fuck And will this like I think like a year or two younger than me, so Hey, I think he just hit 18 he's pretty young looks like 18 It's even worse the first that's be honest sorry well you won't find out in October 43:30.508 --> 43:32.829 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, so he is coming for real. 43:33.249 --> 43:33.709 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, sir. 43:34.269 --> 43:35.089 [SPEAKER_02]: Dennis is also coming. 43:35.669 --> 43:38.230 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but it will tell to her is up here. 43:39.510 --> 43:40.951 [SPEAKER_02]: Sorry, Dennis, I know you're listening. 43:41.091 --> 43:41.531 [SPEAKER_02]: Ha ha ha ha. 43:42.151 --> 43:46.232 [SPEAKER_02]: So, okay, next, steak or ribs, this, you chose steak. 43:46.712 --> 43:48.913 [SPEAKER_02]: This is only appropriate, I think, answer. 43:49.993 --> 43:51.534 [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I'm big fan of ribs. 43:51.674 --> 43:56.375 [SPEAKER_04]: I make some fire ribs to be honest, without, like, 43:58.706 --> 44:05.388 [SPEAKER_04]: Setting myself up to a high, but it makes them bad as ribs, but a good steak is a good steak. 44:05.428 --> 44:06.088 [SPEAKER_04]: That's beyond us. 44:07.248 --> 44:08.229 [SPEAKER_02]: A good steak. 44:08.549 --> 44:13.750 [SPEAKER_02]: Even a good steak is an amazing steak and an amazing steak is something beyond. 44:14.811 --> 44:16.351 [SPEAKER_02]: Amazing ribs are just ribs. 44:17.511 --> 44:19.372 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's just the fucking ribs. 44:20.722 --> 44:27.966 [SPEAKER_03]: All right, though, I have to ask ribs, I mean, steak at a restaurant or a steak that you made at home, which one's better. 44:28.946 --> 44:31.187 [SPEAKER_03]: Ooh, depends on the restaurant, but usually at home. 44:31.788 --> 44:32.008 [SPEAKER_03]: Right. 44:32.348 --> 44:33.369 [SPEAKER_03]: That's what I say all the time. 44:33.429 --> 44:35.690 [SPEAKER_03]: My wife wants to go out and order steak. 44:35.850 --> 44:39.172 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, every time I get the steak, I'm like, I could have made a better one at home. 44:39.972 --> 44:48.937 [SPEAKER_04]: Honestly, I got so many steaks at restaurants and there's only been two restaurants out of 20 that have really been happy with. 44:49.437 --> 44:56.020 [SPEAKER_04]: Because like, I'll be very at this bougie kind of as red, strong in a hotel in the Netherlands. 44:56.761 --> 45:01.103 [SPEAKER_04]: Whenever we're at Dutch knife show, and they had this good looking steak on the menu. 45:01.143 --> 45:03.504 [SPEAKER_04]: Like fuck yeah, some gonna treat myself with some steak. 45:03.764 --> 45:06.606 [SPEAKER_04]: I got sushi as an entry. 45:07.226 --> 45:09.227 [SPEAKER_04]: And then I got, as a main, I got the steak. 45:09.367 --> 45:11.528 [SPEAKER_04]: And the steak was like a fucking piece of leather. 45:12.369 --> 45:13.129 [SPEAKER_04]: Dry piece of shit. 45:13.649 --> 45:14.270 [SPEAKER_04]: I've ever got. 45:14.910 --> 45:15.851 [SPEAKER_04]: It was like 50 bucks. 45:16.631 --> 45:17.171 [SPEAKER_04]: God damn it. 45:17.952 --> 45:18.432 [SPEAKER_04]: Way too much. 45:18.912 --> 45:20.634 [SPEAKER_01]: How do you make it if you make it at home? 45:20.854 --> 45:28.801 [SPEAKER_04]: Depends, if it's like three, I like it to be like three centimeters thick, so like not too thin, not too thick. 45:30.222 --> 45:36.267 [SPEAKER_04]: And if I do it in a pan, I'm going to get the pan so as hot as humanly possible. 45:36.827 --> 45:42.652 [SPEAKER_04]: Give it a, the slight is pinch of salt not too much the slight is pinch of salt. 45:43.273 --> 45:58.305 [SPEAKER_04]: So it doesn't lose too much moisture, but it still gets enough moisture out that it's not burning and then a dash it in one side one and a half minutes flip it around one and a half minutes. 46:02.949 --> 46:27.509 [SPEAKER_04]: You can bite in the glass, it's not too expensive, drip a little bit of that in, and see it and cover it, and then take the whole thing and put it for like a couple minutes into the oven at like a hundred degrees, just a couple minutes, and then take it out that it's said for like a minute or two, cut it into strips, put a small pinch of pepper on it, and some 46:32.132 --> 46:33.013 [SPEAKER_03]: Nice one, it's dinner ready. 46:33.653 --> 46:35.954 [SPEAKER_02]: Ah, yeah, half an hour. 46:36.334 --> 46:38.575 [SPEAKER_02]: All right, this is gonna be dinner now. 46:39.416 --> 46:39.696 [SPEAKER_02]: Perfect. 46:40.556 --> 46:41.316 [SPEAKER_02]: Ah, sounds so good. 46:41.597 --> 46:42.037 [SPEAKER_02]: Sounds better. 46:42.497 --> 46:43.077 [SPEAKER_02]: Sounds better. 46:43.097 --> 46:43.958 [SPEAKER_02]: I think that's a good thing to do. 46:43.978 --> 46:44.498 [SPEAKER_02]: That's right. 46:45.338 --> 46:45.678 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 46:46.119 --> 46:47.880 [SPEAKER_04]: I think that's a good thing to do. 46:48.020 --> 46:53.142 [SPEAKER_02]: The next one is stone sharpeners, or bell sharpeners, and you chose stone sharpening. 46:53.742 --> 46:53.942 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes. 46:53.982 --> 46:54.883 [SPEAKER_02]: Explain your system. 46:56.240 --> 47:01.644 [SPEAKER_04]: Uh, super thin as kitchen knives, plus belts is uh, you're gonna throw them out anyways. 47:02.305 --> 47:02.725 [SPEAKER_04]: Big brain. 47:03.446 --> 47:03.866 [SPEAKER_04]: Big brain. 47:03.886 --> 47:04.386 [SPEAKER_04]: Big brain. 47:04.506 --> 47:08.450 [SPEAKER_04]: Uh, but on outdoor knives or EDCs, I actually prefer a belt. 47:09.490 --> 47:10.071 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, really? 47:10.111 --> 47:10.411 [SPEAKER_04]: Why? 47:10.431 --> 47:13.373 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, cause I don't know. 47:13.874 --> 47:14.514 [SPEAKER_04]: It's faster. 47:14.995 --> 47:22.781 [SPEAKER_04]: I hate sharpening small as knives and stones, especially like when they have a super like, of course, they have a 47:23.654 --> 47:33.981 [SPEAKER_04]: It has a called every castle, like a super thick every castle with a plunge line and getting in there with the stones is a pain in the ass and just take a 180 and the 600 belt and then drop it on the letter and it'll be done. 47:36.643 --> 47:42.747 [SPEAKER_02]: Interesting, but with Stone Sharpening do use, is all freehand? 47:42.867 --> 47:47.810 [SPEAKER_04]: No, we have the nobi pro specialized sharpening system. 47:49.246 --> 47:54.248 [SPEAKER_04]: So it's a free hand-simulated sharpening I would say. 47:54.929 --> 48:08.015 [SPEAKER_04]: Basically, you just have this arm where you give the knife on a magnet and it holds your angle at a perfect 15 degrees or whatever degrees you put in. 48:08.995 --> 48:24.667 [SPEAKER_04]: So it's basically free hand sharpening on the stones, but you have a light to use, but it's Yeah, you have the perfect 15 degrees and I'll really like it and I don't just say it because I am the Biggest distributor of that machine. 48:25.368 --> 48:28.911 [SPEAKER_04]: I say it because I use it for like five and a half years now 48:31.453 --> 48:37.600 [SPEAKER_02]: It's very interesting that you say it's a free hand simulator. 48:37.960 --> 48:40.923 [SPEAKER_02]: It's the same as simulating free hand grinding that they jook. 48:42.037 --> 48:43.037 [SPEAKER_04]: No, that's just a gig. 48:43.478 --> 48:45.098 [SPEAKER_02]: How about this holding the angle? 48:46.259 --> 48:49.480 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but you don't have full control over the whole blade. 48:49.500 --> 48:50.581 [SPEAKER_04]: That's the ones. 48:51.561 --> 48:56.723 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and when you are sharpening the system, what do you mean like full control? 48:56.803 --> 48:58.704 [SPEAKER_04]: It's when you're going to go and give you a hand choke. 48:58.724 --> 49:00.685 [SPEAKER_04]: Is it simulated, is it simulated wanking? 49:04.306 --> 49:05.947 [SPEAKER_02]: It's proxy to banking. 49:07.495 --> 49:13.976 [SPEAKER_02]: You are the one that is getting vanked off, but you are not, you are the vanky, not the vanker. 49:14.356 --> 49:21.417 [SPEAKER_04]: As soon as you cramp something into a fixed system at the bell grinder, it's gay. 49:21.837 --> 49:25.518 [SPEAKER_02]: So with the sharpening system, you are doing the same. 49:25.658 --> 49:26.238 [SPEAKER_02]: Aren't you? 49:26.338 --> 49:27.018 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm not. 49:27.698 --> 49:30.179 [SPEAKER_04]: It's just holding and it's not cramped. 49:30.519 --> 49:31.499 [SPEAKER_04]: It's just so magnet. 49:31.959 --> 49:32.819 [SPEAKER_04]: It's floating. 49:37.301 --> 49:40.564 [SPEAKER_02]: So if I have a magnet on my jig, is it the same? 49:42.106 --> 49:43.988 [SPEAKER_02]: Are you holding the knife or are you holding the jig? 49:45.169 --> 49:46.590 [SPEAKER_04]: Both, we are jig, but okay. 49:49.673 --> 49:52.957 [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I know that some beginner knife makers like to work with jigspoon. 49:55.695 --> 50:01.120 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm on full flight, I'm on full office today, I'm fine, it's fine, it's good. 50:01.841 --> 50:05.244 [SPEAKER_02]: And so this was the last question of the show. 50:05.284 --> 50:06.845 [SPEAKER_02]: Do you have not the show of the game? 50:07.866 --> 50:11.149 [SPEAKER_02]: Do you have any submissions of yours for this segment? 50:11.209 --> 50:13.391 [SPEAKER_02]: This is question, carbon and stainless. 50:14.452 --> 50:16.914 [SPEAKER_02]: If you do that mostly, the very first one. 50:17.374 --> 50:19.056 [SPEAKER_04]: So I did not choose it for you. 50:19.696 --> 50:20.977 [SPEAKER_04]: Because you know that you be offended? 50:22.299 --> 50:22.479 [SPEAKER_02]: No. 50:24.763 --> 50:27.466 [SPEAKER_02]: You really did not listen to our best shows, but it's fine. 50:27.506 --> 50:27.686 [SPEAKER_02]: No. 50:28.347 --> 50:29.828 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't listen to podcasts. 50:29.888 --> 50:31.310 [SPEAKER_04]: I told kids that before. 50:31.530 --> 50:33.092 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't listen to podcasts at all. 50:33.833 --> 50:34.033 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 50:34.513 --> 50:37.897 [SPEAKER_04]: Except when somebody's talking shit about me, then I listen to the part that I said. 50:39.228 --> 50:47.972 [SPEAKER_03]: And tell us because like 20 people are sending me like, oh, that's today's the me like when the American guy say heber to get down a lot. 50:48.852 --> 50:49.313 [SPEAKER_03]: I got you. 50:49.333 --> 50:54.695 [SPEAKER_03]: So that's so we touched on a lot of new stuff on dishes. 50:54.895 --> 51:00.338 [SPEAKER_03]: Nice show that's coming up is there anything about the show that we missed or anything going on anything special, Kenya. 51:01.078 --> 51:19.237 [SPEAKER_04]: It's a real long time in now, so I can finally release the name of the special guest that we have for our small little, like the classes, it's going to be near the screen from Sweden, the famous YouTube ex-smith. 51:20.198 --> 51:21.980 [SPEAKER_04]: It's going to do a... 51:22.781 --> 51:30.983 [SPEAKER_04]: one or two classes of the beginning of the next beginning of the next smithing and a second class that we're not 100% sure yet. 51:31.063 --> 51:32.944 [SPEAKER_04]: So it's going to be cool. 51:33.624 --> 51:34.424 [SPEAKER_04]: Happy to have him here. 51:34.624 --> 51:35.985 [SPEAKER_04]: Will you have a table with you also? 51:36.785 --> 51:43.487 [SPEAKER_04]: No, he's just maybe he we will maybe set up a little bit of space where he can sell his book. 51:44.447 --> 51:57.656 [SPEAKER_04]: Um, X smithing, um, maybe like he can bring a, he will bring a couple of axes of course to show while we don't know if the feast is going to sell something or not, but we're not sure yet. 51:58.597 --> 51:59.558 [SPEAKER_04]: We'll try to figure that out. 51:59.658 --> 52:02.940 [SPEAKER_01]: Have you ever forged an X or made an X Martin? 52:03.252 --> 52:07.273 [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, actually that's how I started making a making blade, but making access. 52:08.234 --> 52:10.975 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's how I started when I've been dreaming, making access. 52:11.195 --> 52:15.616 [SPEAKER_01]: That's an interesting order of operations because usually it's the other way around, so people start. 52:15.676 --> 52:16.336 [SPEAKER_01]: It's a way around. 52:16.356 --> 52:16.716 [SPEAKER_01]: It's a way around. 52:18.618 --> 52:43.609 [SPEAKER_04]: You know, I'm a trained blacksmith so well, but by the blah blah, some blacksmithing school, I Reforge the hammer and what's goes through hammer next and so I forge necks out of an old hammer head then a forge necks out of piece of mild seal because I was stupid and then I forge a piece out of carbon steel and so on and so on and so on and so on and sold a couple of axes and in the first two years of 52:46.194 --> 52:47.475 [SPEAKER_04]: my company. 52:47.495 --> 52:51.838 [SPEAKER_04]: I actually sold X as frequently and then I stopped doing them. 52:53.719 --> 52:57.922 [SPEAKER_04]: And yeah, but I sometimes like to forge next every like two years. 52:58.843 --> 53:01.484 [SPEAKER_04]: I thought about doing the askers X for YouTube videos. 53:01.524 --> 53:02.825 [SPEAKER_01]: Have you done one in the mask? 53:03.606 --> 53:04.907 [SPEAKER_04]: Ah, three or four, yeah. 53:05.781 --> 53:11.063 [SPEAKER_04]: There's actually a sample CFO, like the old stream TV channel. 53:11.864 --> 53:15.645 [SPEAKER_03]: There's actually a full 40 minute video of me forging in the basket. 53:16.366 --> 53:19.767 [SPEAKER_03]: You talked about maybe doing some x-making classes before. 53:20.628 --> 53:21.388 [SPEAKER_03]: Let's do something new. 53:22.395 --> 53:49.534 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I didn't think I was making classes, but I stopped doing them because like prepping old drifts and everything because they they don't have them and they have a limited lifetime because you've forged the cheeks of the you've forged your cheeks out on the power hammer and when the drift gets hard it forms a little bit so yeah I had to every third time so I had to reforge a new drift and it was so annoying that I didn't want it to spend time. 53:50.587 --> 53:55.988 [SPEAKER_04]: Like prepping a X-making class was the same work as doing the class itself. 53:56.748 --> 53:59.289 [SPEAKER_04]: And yeah, I didn't want it to do that anymore. 53:59.749 --> 54:01.009 [SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't let me shit out of me. 54:01.550 --> 54:06.151 [SPEAKER_03]: So the drift stays in the act head as you're warming it so you don't lose that shape. 54:06.431 --> 54:07.071 [SPEAKER_04]: That's what you mean. 54:07.311 --> 54:14.032 [SPEAKER_04]: And because you need something inside, so you can only forge out the cheeks where the the shaft is going in. 54:14.873 --> 54:16.153 [SPEAKER_04]: So you forge out the cheeks. 54:21.694 --> 54:24.396 [SPEAKER_03]: The avid started first with the smirk and then all the bags. 54:24.496 --> 54:25.816 [SPEAKER_04]: It's long and then like, oh god. 54:28.297 --> 54:29.718 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, the shaft goes a lot. 54:29.798 --> 54:30.538 [SPEAKER_04]: Usually you're right. 54:31.038 --> 54:33.339 [SPEAKER_04]: You've got to put the shaft in the board job. 54:33.559 --> 54:34.160 [SPEAKER_04]: You don't want it. 54:34.180 --> 54:34.580 [SPEAKER_04]: Sit on my. 54:34.880 --> 54:38.181 [SPEAKER_04]: When you put my font, you don't have anything on the. 54:38.201 --> 54:39.802 [SPEAKER_04]: You're when you're pounding on the cheeks. 54:39.822 --> 54:42.163 [SPEAKER_04]: You've got to put the shaft in otherwise it will be far. 54:45.420 --> 54:55.751 [SPEAKER_03]: And do you have to put any kind of special like liquids or anything on, yeah, so it doesn't get me stuck in the thing that's called the blacksmith's loop. 54:56.072 --> 55:03.520 [SPEAKER_04]: Parked to which is a make sure oil and make sure oil and dress I've had her very interesting. 55:03.540 --> 55:04.681 [SPEAKER_03]: I also take one of these classes. 55:05.642 --> 55:05.882 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 55:06.882 --> 55:08.103 [SPEAKER_03]: That's it. 55:08.163 --> 55:09.323 [SPEAKER_03]: That's it. 55:09.363 --> 55:09.623 [SPEAKER_01]: That's it. 55:09.643 --> 55:10.844 [SPEAKER_01]: That's going to do it quickly. 55:12.444 --> 55:13.724 [SPEAKER_03]: It was bound to happen. 55:14.045 --> 55:14.385 [SPEAKER_03]: It was. 55:14.745 --> 55:18.766 [SPEAKER_03]: So you got a few more sponsors this year for the knife show. 55:20.006 --> 55:21.767 [SPEAKER_03]: Are you doing a bunch more advertising? 55:22.707 --> 55:22.987 [SPEAKER_03]: Like that. 55:23.007 --> 55:24.828 [SPEAKER_03]: You'll put on a bandage and stuff around town. 55:25.088 --> 55:26.128 [SPEAKER_03]: Have you expanded? 55:26.328 --> 55:26.648 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 55:26.748 --> 55:31.250 [SPEAKER_04]: Actually, we got a deal with a... 55:32.370 --> 55:36.772 [SPEAKER_04]: The newspapers, the bigger local newspapers. 55:36.792 --> 55:37.893 [SPEAKER_04]: We got a super deal. 55:37.913 --> 55:47.518 [SPEAKER_04]: They will bring out thin newspapers where one of them is the main focus on the show, like biggest teaser title and everything. 55:48.893 --> 55:55.904 [SPEAKER_04]: we will have another session of banners starting in September at my hometown. 55:57.166 --> 56:03.696 [SPEAKER_04]: And in end of September, in style itself, we will have 56:06.345 --> 56:08.587 [SPEAKER_04]: We're working on TV commercial, but it's too expensive. 56:08.687 --> 56:09.248 [SPEAKER_04]: Let's be honest. 56:10.188 --> 56:13.591 [SPEAKER_04]: And we have some other magazines that will print. 56:14.311 --> 56:19.335 [SPEAKER_04]: We can't say yet because we're still in discussions. 56:21.316 --> 56:29.342 [SPEAKER_04]: And one of the biggest newspapers in Austria that will print our flyer. 56:31.003 --> 56:35.505 [SPEAKER_04]: And yeah, it's not a money going into ads this year. 56:36.366 --> 56:43.410 [SPEAKER_04]: Since we have so many cool sponsors, I can luckily afford a little bit more advertisement than last year. 56:43.650 --> 56:51.935 [SPEAKER_04]: Because last year everything was coming out of my pocket, some this year, luckily I have some more money to play with and make more ads. 56:52.656 --> 56:55.958 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think it's a tough market to advertise in because you want to hit. 56:57.238 --> 57:01.061 [SPEAKER_03]: like the right crowd of people that are actually going to come to show and purchase something. 57:01.082 --> 57:01.262 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 57:02.723 --> 57:03.964 [SPEAKER_03]: So you've got to hit the masses too. 57:04.184 --> 57:04.925 [SPEAKER_04]: That's the problem. 57:05.485 --> 57:07.026 [SPEAKER_04]: Because you never know who's an af guy. 57:07.407 --> 57:08.748 [SPEAKER_04]: That's the cool thing that I've learned. 57:09.868 --> 57:13.652 [SPEAKER_04]: Never know who's an af guy until you'll see them at your show. 57:15.873 --> 57:18.776 [SPEAKER_04]: Who just spent 1200 bucks and two nights? 57:21.012 --> 57:39.591 [SPEAKER_04]: There was an older guy that I did a new front because he's from my hometown, and he always showed interest in an organized, but he never really He's just like showing up with the Christmas market and be like, yeah, I love you nice so much, love your knives And then as a knife show, I saw him when I was standing outside and he looked at me like, 57:41.241 --> 57:49.646 [SPEAKER_04]: Finally it is time I bought knives and he bought a small one from us and the bigger one from another guy He showed them to me super proud like here. 57:49.746 --> 57:50.867 [SPEAKER_04]: I finally bought a knife. 57:50.907 --> 57:59.372 [SPEAKER_04]: I found the border knife and he actually showed up to a class a couple months ago to us because he got addicted So I got to make his own 58:00.212 --> 58:00.692 [SPEAKER_03]: Very nice. 58:00.753 --> 58:03.074 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, we are hitting the one hour mark. 58:03.114 --> 58:12.862 [SPEAKER_03]: I think we talked about a lot of stuff from the knife show that's going on for the people who don't know you have a website out in German in English What's the what's the website? 58:13.883 --> 58:17.426 [SPEAKER_03]: knife show dot 18 And you can still pick up tickets there. 58:17.446 --> 58:18.988 [SPEAKER_03]: I think in some early bird tickets. 58:19.008 --> 58:24.092 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, because they're available to actually early bird tickets are back in stock because my website fucked up 58:26.273 --> 58:34.602 [SPEAKER_04]: We had 120 early birth tickets for sale and my system said, yeah, they're sold out and then I realized it only sold 95 58:36.781 --> 58:41.002 [SPEAKER_04]: because I don't know why, but it's sold only 95 out of 120 tickets. 58:41.062 --> 58:47.144 [SPEAKER_04]: So early bird tickets that gives you a one hour early entry are back in stock. 58:47.164 --> 58:51.266 [SPEAKER_04]: So we still have like 12 left or something like this at time of recording. 58:51.446 --> 58:56.528 [SPEAKER_04]: So if you want to come in early, get yourself the cool knife by early bird tickets. 58:56.868 --> 58:57.048 [SPEAKER_04]: And 58:58.637 --> 59:09.897 [SPEAKER_04]: The normal beacon passes will be available until two weeks before the show and then you can only buy tickets at the entry. 59:11.547 --> 59:19.252 [SPEAKER_04]: But by a weekend pass because you can win a couple of knives and sharpening system and maybe other stuff that you're interested in. 59:19.793 --> 59:22.835 [SPEAKER_03]: Do we do we know the prices for the visitors? 59:24.336 --> 59:30.620 [SPEAKER_04]: So far we have a 2000 year old copper Damascus chef knife. 59:31.960 --> 59:39.666 [SPEAKER_04]: from, I don't want to butcher his name, I think it's Stan, Stan from Romania. 59:40.706 --> 59:53.135 [SPEAKER_04]: We have an EDC on our way from Pauliou's most favorite Polish guy, Celestia Castan-Lives, who is also sponsoring the show with a giveaway knife. 59:54.315 --> 01:00:09.759 [SPEAKER_04]: and go follow him when it's correct and we have a sharpening machine from DT grinders which is valued of 500 and something euros and we are in the talks of two more knives right now. 01:00:11.799 --> 01:00:13.040 [SPEAKER_04]: There's going to be a lot of prices. 01:00:13.900 --> 01:00:15.980 [SPEAKER_04]: Let the prices all the way around for everybody, right? 01:00:16.260 --> 01:00:17.861 [SPEAKER_04]: Not only the visitors and exhibits. 01:00:18.421 --> 01:00:21.582 [SPEAKER_04]: The visitors, the exhibitors, the winners of last night of 01:00:24.146 --> 01:00:25.667 [SPEAKER_04]: Well, knife for all three is a giveaway fast. 01:00:27.527 --> 01:00:28.308 [SPEAKER_03]: Very, very cool. 01:00:28.428 --> 01:00:29.348 [SPEAKER_03]: Everybody's excited. 01:00:29.388 --> 01:00:32.569 [SPEAKER_03]: We've got about almost a little over two months right now. 01:00:33.190 --> 01:00:40.393 [SPEAKER_03]: So people are probably, I know knife makers still working on the last minute details of their knives getting their stuff together. 01:00:40.433 --> 01:00:41.673 [SPEAKER_03]: I know I haven't even started yet. 01:00:41.713 --> 01:00:43.754 [SPEAKER_03]: That's my plan for next week. 01:00:44.494 --> 01:00:45.595 [SPEAKER_03]: Get all my stock together. 01:00:46.455 --> 01:00:47.516 [SPEAKER_03]: Tren. 01:00:47.536 --> 01:00:49.837 [SPEAKER_03]: Will sell those going to finish his blades in the airport. 01:00:51.037 --> 01:00:52.278 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that seems to be a trend. 01:00:52.298 --> 01:00:53.398 [SPEAKER_04]: That's usually does. 01:00:55.680 --> 01:00:56.180 [SPEAKER_03]: Very cool. 01:00:56.940 --> 01:01:02.884 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, go to Nefro Austria, check out the website, come to the show, bring I shoot a lot of money. 01:01:04.665 --> 01:01:06.125 [SPEAKER_03]: Cash is king there, right? 01:01:06.346 --> 01:01:08.527 [SPEAKER_03]: Everybody pay with cash if you can. 01:01:09.247 --> 01:01:15.250 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure people got pride machines, but that's always a huge problem with connection and stuff like that if everybody's doing it the same time. 01:01:16.191 --> 01:01:17.092 [SPEAKER_03]: And as plenty of 01:01:20.193 --> 01:01:35.520 [SPEAKER_04]: The closest ATM is not even a minute foot walk away, and I'm sure you already talked to the owner so you can constantly restock that every hour How interesting the money melt that there will be a lot of crazy people wanting to have cash. 01:01:36.001 --> 01:01:38.542 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah Very cool. 01:01:38.642 --> 01:01:40.583 [SPEAKER_03]: Alright, good talking to you. 01:01:40.803 --> 01:01:48.346 [SPEAKER_03]: Thanks again for all the hard work putting the show together, and we can't wait to see October 24th in 25th 01:01:52.729 --> 01:01:53.250 [SPEAKER_03]: All right, guys. 01:01:54.112 --> 01:01:55.355 [SPEAKER_03]: We will talk to you all next week. 01:01:55.936 --> 01:01:56.397 [SPEAKER_03]: Bye for now. 01:01:56.578 --> 01:01:56.718 [SPEAKER_01]: Bye. 01:01:56.738 --> 01:01:57.079 [SPEAKER_01]: Bye. 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