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[SPEAKER_00]: Hello, everybody.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's Brebagual with your only Vans Break Cap.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Kevin Feller is one of the absolute legends of our scene, duh.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And in addition to being one of the hardest touring bands throughout the years, Kevin is just the nicest guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've seen him stand for hours post-show to sign every autograph and shake every hand for every fan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I really think you can't have anything less than the best time out of Kevin Fowler show, and he's inspired so many people like me with his work ethic, entrepreneurial mindset, and fun-loving spirit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I really want to thank him and his daughter Riley for making this podcast finally happen, and you hear little shout outs from K-PALS, Granddad or herself, who makes her only Vans on screen debut.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Dose Boracios is Kevin's duo project with his longtime friend Roger Krieger and be on the lookout for new Dose Boracios music and addition to Kevin's new record and he surprises us with announcing a new cover album project.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my gosh, I learned so much about Kevin on this episode and that's because this man is a dreamer and a doer and we couldn't love him more.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't believe that we didn't talk about him setting up me on Paul and I think I still owe him $50 for that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks Kevin for just being such a great human being and all you've done in your career is amazing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You are leaving behind a true legacy and catch a Kevin Fowler show y'all if you have not What are you waiting for?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You'll have the best time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I promise.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Enjoy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's still getting a good deal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks, too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Low risk.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Low, low, low risk.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, hey everybody, this is Free Bagwell, and this is my podcast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll leave it, I'll just talk to my friends.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, when we used to do this in the van, we used to do it in my van, which is why it was called only vans.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We sat in the front seats of the springer van and no, there was no good angle for anybody, like everybody.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody just looked terrible, but it was like sort in there and we're just like, well, and it's just not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not a good look.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, first if we're starting we can give a good shout out to our friend Chris out the green grove because my slide out is broken on my RV and that's where we record the podcast now but it's going to be for granted fix it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm just putting it all for a little while and then Chris was like, why don't you all come film in the speak easy?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we're here now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I got my friend Kim Fowler finally to be on my part.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Finally, it's not taking like what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: How many years we've tried to do this?

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[SPEAKER_00]: We've been doing trying for a long time, but it's my favorite.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How mad that you are that you haven't been on in my partcasts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, oh, I'm, I've got shunned.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, you were never shunned.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We've invited you a bunch of times.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You have a bunch, I'm always busy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're busy, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You have your hands and so many things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, what are you even doing today?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Today I'm playing Landlord or some Lord of Ranch Lord.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess you know this very little stuff about me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not a secret to any of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a real estate junkie on the side.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well you know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Some guys have cars and some guys buy expensive jewelry or a buy dirt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know, and Paul says he was, he's like, I told Kevin about.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He didn't get to a real estate.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if that's how to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Paul did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Paul got, Paul, he's got me out of, I was really heavy in the ranch, real estate.

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[SPEAKER_01]: 100%, I don't know, I had ranch properties, and he was dabble in and commercial.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, man, I need to get out of so much.

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[SPEAKER_01]: big dirt and get into commercial stuff and so I'm almost all commercial but all all historic commercial.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Square and George Town, those square and whimperly and green, right next to green hall, the where we're um, our note here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And um, and then they're just slaying it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Those guys are,

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you haven't checked other stuff, it's really cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's really cool stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's why we're doing it on the stage, constantly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because it's so comfy and, you know, we'll show this plug there, but I love this stuff and I love those guys, but they build the same from the, you know, pretty much from their living room to what it is now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's incredible.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, that's I think the point of this podcast or one of the points of this podcast is like giving shoutouts to people that do a great job and have helped us are involved in our careers like there's so much intertwining in what we do and like a peril is like we have to be on stage and we have to look good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then when you go anywhere with Kevin Fowler you have to look good because I can't go to any bars with you ever remember when we lived in Buda and

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[SPEAKER_00]: You do like you want to go to wheelies and we'd walk into wheelies and then we'd never see each other again because Kevin Peller only makes it about like six feet through any door that he walks there before everyone loves He's like a barf law.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not so much now as I used to be you know miss you speed you were out on the road Right hitting you know half the year we're on the road And used to be in constantly and bars get home somewhere always in a bar Yeah, you know

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we're growing up a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we're growing up a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we're growing up a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Grand babies now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Once over there, let's go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's over there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's over there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's so cute.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You love being a grandpa?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But they call you K-pop.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They call me K-pop.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's very cute.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're a really good grandpa.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love, I love being grandpa.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's so fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you have like the cutest family.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what Cory's doing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just kidding.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's a man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but you're done.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was so funny.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was thinking about it the other day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, I remember just seeing Riley one day and I was like Your daughter is an actual supermodel.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like she's so beautiful.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm glad that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I just think that that's a little bit stressful being a dad of a supermodel She's kind of got out of the other all she does now is just junk chipsy and and I think that's about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, you're doing something new with you

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[SPEAKER_01]: with a little casing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, no big deal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a little casing, and then there's a lot of stuff with junk chips, you bet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she's.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've got you going to get out of that, because that's kind of, that whole industry is kind of sketch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I bet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, she just got her good looks from me, obviously.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah, right.

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[UNKNOWN]: No.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Lucky, ugly skips a generation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, the music business is kind of sketched.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like, it's very sketched.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's so sketch and I think that it's just impressive that you've had such an awesome, long career.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Can we talk about your long hair and your rock and roll career before?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you talk to anything you want to use?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's talk about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, if you're bored and you want to sit, just go to... Somebody told me how to look it up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It just Kevin Fowler long hair or dangerous choice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a come up on way, you too?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, anywhere, just Google it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there's just plot pictures of me with Long O'Hare.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And there's beautiful hair.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'd be glad the Lord give it and Lord took it away.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So now I've got nice hats.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I know, but that's, you know, that's perfect actually.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wear hats too now to hide my forehead wrinkles.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just like tuck them into my, but then you don't have to wash your hair as much either.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just wear hats.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just wear hats.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You gotta get hair transplanted, so I'll just get a nice hat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is like cheaper and it looks better.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like I have a song coming out Friday about getting older as a woman, but like I feel very,

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[SPEAKER_00]: comfortable getting older because I was kind of an idiot when I was younger.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So like, do you feel like that at all?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I don't mind being older.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm still an idiot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I just make stupid mistakes, not big ones, but yeah, it's crazy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I just turned 60.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't flaunt that or talk too much about it because people never leave it when I say it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But my first tour bus tour with a 93 must have been dangerous toys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And my belt's just turned a million miles.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I saw that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A few weeks ago, you know, and then we had two months before that, I bet we'd, at one point three, moment four million miles, you know, just on the road from music.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Literally, really, my style.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's been a, I've been, I'm not gonna wait all the time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then I'm so blessed that I've been able to play music for 11 this long.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but it's a blessing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is a total blessing and I was wondering what was going to happen when that was in the first.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm kidding.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Go on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Here we are.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What's going to happen when that rolled over to a million miles?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, it just went back to zero.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, my zero snow was starting one mile.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That is hilarious because it was like, I thought about like, why two caves, I remember it was like, what's going to happen when the 90s are over and it's the whole world getting claps and then your best just went to zero miles.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought that was hilarious.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I think the reason you have one in the best.

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[SPEAKER_00]: live shows, and I was thinking about the last time I played with you was in White House, Texas, and Beverly Lambert was there, Bevin' Rick Lambert, and there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And she was like, they love you to death.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They love you to death, but they, they're the best, but they were like, look at Fowler, he's just fowlering, he's just fowlering up there, and she was like, nobody does that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, I know, like, thank God.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You,

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[SPEAKER_00]: You have a way of like, I mean, you've just really mastered the live performance where nobody can have a bad time at a Kevin Fowler show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, I mean, that's my opinion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Our kind of thing, Paul was in my band last six, seven, eight years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nine years, Kevin.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, nine years, well, you'll be a top-class when you have that much fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you know, our kind of our, our mantra's always been, you know, we want him to have, you know, give him such a good show that if they don't know the song as a topic of time, you know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that comes in the rock and roll days, you know, you know, all the, you know, my favorite front man or, you know, Stephen Tyler and guys like that that really could enthrall our crowd.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I always wanted to be that I always want to be a front man, you know, no more than just a guy sits on the stool and plays folk songs, you know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he was only in your band eight years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry, I'd like to formally apologize about that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it was eight, but it was a long time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a long time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is that where you play with a microphone that's not a boom stand?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Say, Mike's 10, yeah, because I can't move around stage with a boom stand.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but I always hit my teeth on the, I mean, well, that play electric is not that bad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe others might have a crooked neck.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but, you know, you're done on me lately.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was just stressed about to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I think most musicians don't think about this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I didn't think about it until I was in my 50s, but you know, you're young, you don't be a musician, you know?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you never think about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Some day, it made last long enough

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[SPEAKER_01]: What are you gonna, you don't get to retire?

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[SPEAKER_01]: All of my friends are retiring.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're like, you know, built up construction companies or, you know, medical practice or this, or that, and there's sell it, and now they get their EBITDA out of it, and they sell it, and then they go, it's a cash out, and they, you know, they're tired, and I'm like, oh, we don't get to retire ever, and that's why all these guys play it all the dead, because we're usually musicians are only broke.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, and you just play the, I guess you play the, you just down there,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know, or I think I say this a lot, but I think it's kind of sad because you don't know where your peak is really, and then also you don't have a whole lot of other options, but then you don't get a retirement party and you get to go out on top with a severance, and it's like best-case scenario, I get old, and people come to my shows and they're like, oh, Brube, I will look so old in fact.

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[SPEAKER_00]: like that's like the best case scenario is that I still get to play music and at some point people are like oh she don't got it anymore like it's kind of sad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: that will never happen to you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We are true, almost like we're insulated, you know, being in the Texas scene because, you know, if you treat your fans or not, and they keep on putting out music, you know, you can play forever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I just tell you, I'm really good for, I'm good friends of Gary P. None.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I always say, I want to just, I'm just trusting, allowing us to be the new Gary P. None.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I kill, you know, that he's been doing it forever, you know, he just turned 80.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's still out there playing and all the shows he wants to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Still a wrong good crowds.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Pies when he wants to, don't play me down onto, you know?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just, I look forward to that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're kind of at that point now, you know, from 120 shows down to, I think, we're just 72 this year around there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, it's perfect.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's blessing, but why else would you do?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think you only retire from jobs that you don't enjoy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I think people are driving jobs that, you know, yeah, they're, we're going to stock and stuff at Walmart.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I want to retire.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But we, we get the, get on the bus and good fall for the, with your buddies, you know, you know, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're bander your buddies, you know, you're a gang and you get a roll around in a bus and hang it with them and hour and a half and not you get there and act like an idiot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know, or an RV, you're saying I'm driving at the moment.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My turn manager just too bad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm still working towards the bus thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I agree, when you're going down the road, laughing hard and eating pizza and like giggling, it's the most fun that I have in my life.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's so much fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Paula always talks about how hard they would laugh in your band.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He they're just great guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You've had a lot of your guys forever, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like your band is all good for so long.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There has been a baby for for 24 years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Are they still player?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's been a full time for 20 for 20.

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[SPEAKER_01]: 22 years, at least starting out for 22 years, and he played with me since 98.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I'm full time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a full time employee since, oh, too, and Gary, basically has been lead for his presence.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, six.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he's been around at 20 years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love my scary.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was just kind of, it's just a, you know, it's a fun, the whole dynamic on the tour bus.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, you know, our bus needs to be like the party bus.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was like a real in front of us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Whoa, you know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I remember after the after show you know I walk on there's 20 people in the bus You know in a row or two or three in the morning go do another now you get up I got the stage are coming there and it's like the guys are watching discovery channel Everybody's a bed that an hour after show everybody you just begin to rare it up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know and And a true indicator of it is you know every not in the right or we get two cases of beer

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[SPEAKER_01]: You should be not mad not we're out of here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're telling Darren.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Come get some more beer for the venue.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now it's like we're giving beer way to fans.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Would you like a case of beer?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I was on your best day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll date to you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do remember we were both drinking sparkling water.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we were like, what is wrong with us?

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[SPEAKER_00]: We are so we are big time losers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I don't really want to talk about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I actually hadn't even thought about it until right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But that was the time I threw up at LJT and Kevin was holding my hair because this guy took off his boot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god!

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[SPEAKER_01]: Where did that guy come from?

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a tree story.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can't even make this up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was, I was, you see, literally threw up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who was that guy?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how he got in my bus who he came with, but he pulled off his boots for some reason.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And his feet smell like total ass.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was horrible.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought something had died.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And like, there we go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did you get off the bus?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And she actually gagged and threw up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was so funny because like your whole band laughed and we were like, why is I been leaving and then all of the knit us?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And like, even I looked at each other like, was that you?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Who's like, was that you?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was like, no.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then we found out it was this guy's feet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, I could throw up actually thinking about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I always keep the best door locked at LJT because he was just wonder on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's so crazy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: People are so bold.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what time I go out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I forget that this is my house.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, we did the door and look, something was walking, said I'm a, who are you?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, I just want to say hi.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, what could you knock?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's really bold.

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[SPEAKER_00]: One time we got off of a stage at LJT and someone was asleep in our van, like somebody passed out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's not a show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, great stories.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But LJT used to be crazy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, even like our best now,

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[SPEAKER_01]: People had to age it out like all of you would go to LJT, you know, it's not, it used to be nuts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'm absolutely insane.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But now the fans got older looking out there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're sitting in chairs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Walkers is next.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I like my older fans.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not really cool with the, you know, the 18 to 21 year old crowd.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, but I've, I've honestly never been cool with the 18 to 21 year old crowd.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and I'm okay with having older fans because I have more money.

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[SPEAKER_01]: True.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, if that's how you feel about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But you're making a new record right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I got I got I got a whole new Come follow record in the can no no dust brought those record to can and me and the guys the band did this coverage record They were finally gonna put out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We did too much 80's empty via a Solum's a minimum country.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's pretty fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Everything white snake to what you name it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's really the cars.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's really fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't know about this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah It's been it's been done for a long time, but we're just slow about getting stuff out

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's hard nowadays because it's like how exactly do you promote it and when do you and how are you supposed to really send you one at a time and then to like it's hard.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's crazy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, back in the day and we were working radio, you know, back when we're on labels and doing that whole thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You release a single you'll maybe one or two a year max because they you had to work up so long to get them you're working radio and now it's like these kids Kittiput now that who song a week my whole the old man's got to get me to start writing some songs We're gonna do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, did you write all all the songs for the new record or you guys a lot of I did there's some cover stuff on there I'm just from friends David Murphy always send me some great stuff gosh, and you know right together a lot and turn me bride and

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you know, is you get your little guys that you're you're stable of guys that you loved right with and you go back to well if it ain't wrote just keep on writing and just

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[SPEAKER_00]: I could just picture everybody pitching, be like, I got the perfect Kevin Feller song and it's always a beer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, I remember it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And like there's more, like one of your most famous songs is hard man to love.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like funny to me that people would pitch only beer songs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: People send me this shittiest song.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like Randy Rogers said me one a couple years ago and he's like, this song is perfect for you and I was like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure how to take this exact one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When it was in the song, it was like, it's something I'm getting drunk and I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I don't have, there aren't any beer songs who did one beer song in this record.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Long live Long Next, which is a good termic brand.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I love that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a great catch you, son.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I stole it off at a long, star beer promotion for the 70s.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're

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[SPEAKER_00]: How is nobody wrote that?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's awesome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's very good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Very good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we went pawn.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I went to Terry's house.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We were there for like four and a half hours.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We never picked up a guitar.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was just telling us stories.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Isn't that house so cool?

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[SPEAKER_00]: That house is so cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This whole house is covered in golden platinum record.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The whole thing from all the revocats.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You all the wall looks and done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Owens didn't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: he's a he's a he's a legend he is he's so nice and he just gave us so much of his time but we never we never wrote anything but he invited us back so I guess we didn't offend him sometimes it's that way yeah I think it's an old people playing you spit went out yeah did you record it in Nashville then?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Trent Wilman did all my stuff for probably 10 years or so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we go way back when he would just got his deal on Sony and he was he'd put out on again, I mean, no, man, no, it was the first single.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm a bear man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I love that song.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Paul has that on his list of good mixes because that record just sounded so good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I'm Probably he's found his avenue because My cousin Blue Morton said played still guitar and transparent for a long time and so finding out he was producing I was like dang that that's really cool, but I really thought his solo career was like his solo stuff was so incredible Incredible.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm gonna get off again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Somebody just re-cut that

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[SPEAKER_01]: What?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to get off again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've heard somebody do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Somebody's open to for us today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, oh, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't been to cut that song.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's such a good song.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Dang.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that is awesome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Where did you go?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No one has song.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel a good one coming on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the blackberry smoker.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They did it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Went down the ridge of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I always liked it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Dang it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: to slow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I was like the sweet days as long as you're happy baby.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So am I.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you remember that one?

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[SPEAKER_01]: True.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What's the goal?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So am I.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're just this is like the Trent woman fan club.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're just trying to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll Kevin didn't know that one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I got some friends in the fan club.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So wait, did you cut it out of certain studio up in Nashville or

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, just kind of, these are all vocals at his place now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, 1800 is a lot of cabin.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They moved there and they did all the new Kodi Johnson stuff there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The vocals.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just a great hanging.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll, you know, creek right behind the house and just, it's just very relaxing place to do vocals to, I'm a horrible in the studio, vocalist, you know, I need, I know the

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, don't be afraid to use my name.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you, 47, like, oh, my God.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe you need to go outside and chill out for a minute.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is crazy because that's how we do mine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll cut them all and then I just do the vocals separately at my producer's house and we take our time and stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that that's good for other musicians I listen to this podcast here because I've seen the most amazing people cut, you know, one take harmonies in the studio and I'm like, oh, my gosh, but it's okay if it takes you a little bit longer because it takes me a lot of bit longer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just slow and then

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, I'm just, I think that's normal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, take all the time you need.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The new Kevin record is Hill Country Honey on that one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're just doing all singles.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think we got 10 songs, 8 or 10 songs for that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Hill Country Honey's latest single.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then, if you're going to do, we did before that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We did one called, I was at one day with a Murphy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe the Cowboys are right, sorry.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They release song, he'd wrote, and God, it's a good song.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe the Cowboys are right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's so frustrating at this one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My career goes up, I feel like I'm putting out better songs than I ever put out back in the day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: back then I felt like we get through anything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a number one Texas chart and you know it just sold a lot of CDs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess that's dating myself.

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[SPEAKER_01]: CDs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you know now it's just so hard to cut through and you know it's all about social media in where I'm trying to

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to hip, get hip, and, you know, Riley does all my social media.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, she's doing a great job.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because, you know, most of the guys might be our kids or something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Some of that is for us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're not brave.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I hire mine out two sometimes when I get over it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just like, I don't even want to look.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think,

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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, if we're talking about, I was just talking to JT about art being important for the sake of art and I really believe that if you're finding, you know, that great song and finding the best songs that that still matters, you know, putting out great art is still what we are striving for and I, my songs I agree are better than anything that I've written but I think that's a point because if you're not writing better stuff then you're doing something wrong, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you're good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You have to try to get better at it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, really like about social media, say, go, I love about the music business now, and we started out in the 90s, you know, and not you, you're young and you're still pooping your pants on it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're right, young and you know, but when

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, they call it class of 2000, all of us guys been patting everybody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We constantly, everybody, you know, we had to go out and just kiss radio ass all the time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there's all these gatekeepers that kept you from your, that kept you segregated from the fans.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, they had all the radio between you had press get a label, you know, and you had to to get through those people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You had to go through the, you had to get a label or the radio wouldn't had to come in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it was several of the Texas stations they were open, but the big major ones you needed,

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[SPEAKER_01]: And now the kids, I love it now that with, you know, social media and everything, you don't need it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hell, the guys are, after killing it, right now, aren't on labels, you know?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's all out of Reena's, you know, you got, you can find all the fans you want, on TikTok, you know, all social media, and there's no, you know, used to be when we would go, oh my gosh, why do you go into one more Walmart and do a signing, just so they would put the record in there, you know?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was just all that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All the, you know, the this honesty that I felt like it was back then is gone now it's straight on it's straight to consumer and like these kids, you know, that's interesting and because a lot of us feel like Like it's gotten it was more transparent and then now it's gotten back to gate keeping a little bit like that's how it feels but

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, now you just got to wrestle the algorithm and figure it out, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, nobody knows how to get something to go about or you've got to get out there and put enough stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if it's a bit ball enough stuff for it sticks, but it's a, I'm very happy for the young perhaps that now they don't have to do all that degrading stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like I'd take a shower for a came on if it's a dirty, if you're a radio tour, if they would just treat you like crap.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'd go in a board room and they're like, hmm, you're trying to play a song and they're doing the nails and, you know, where they would make you do a listener line, she'd spend stuff that's give her a cooped out of you from the label, you know?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, just- Well, label, were you?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Or what, label?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was on a bunch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I killed a bunch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've killed more record labels.

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[SPEAKER_01]: First of all, first we were all doing the thing with self-destructed wholesale, me, all the, all the, all the, all the, all the, the whole, everybody ragged me there, but he, and they went belly up, took much of our money with them, we just sued to get the money, my first, my first, you know, it's great with the lawsuit and the attorney.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we killed that one, and then Blacks taught me his label.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And actually, if on the label, now left the label, they came back and did another record of the label, left the label.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was just us and this band that was always playing all the time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: These guys got a little big town.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they brought the into the label.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They put out the boondocks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then the label, then Bellia.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I got, I got signed a lyrics treat, which is Disney, then.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you ask a flat, shaday, easy, bucket covered, then, you know, I'm kind of, they, they, they, they, myself and all those things, but, but, rascal flats, they, they, they went it off, they went off the label, so Disney just said, you know, screw it, we're just killed the label.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The whole label.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, label, all of us are just just cut.

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[SPEAKER_01]: got hose on that bill.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That makes sense because today's I am Bucky Coventon kind of did like disappear from they were doing great until Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We were all that same boat, you know, I just found a guy, you know, Mickey Mouse, Maddie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I had a real budget.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We put out pound sign, that daily Murphy song.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he produced that record.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They've lead it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, it was Chuggen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was just Chuggen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was exactly what it was supposed to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A couple spots a week, couple spots a week, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm out there radio touring.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm in Vegas.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I remember it vividly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The radio rep I was out with from there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's something's going on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We all got called in for mandatory media and national Monday on Tuesday and yeah, they shut the label down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But the Disney's props.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They gave me my record, relieved all my debt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh well, many of you think, and I thought, I bet they've had half of me and I'm out between, you know, I bet my, I wasn't in the negative lot of that much because the record was spent at least 150,000 pounds and probably I'm doing the record.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we do it with all the top notch players, Nashville, you know, it was- That was back when I'm music video was like 50 grand or at last.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we did so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We did the video and they gave me a record.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I went into this day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, and everyone in my record is now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's over the lather dilly bobs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Whoa.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's all, all my home.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I almost sold that catalog.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I was gonna ask you, but I was like, is that a secret?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Cause I thought you did sell it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I didn't sell it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I should have sold it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Dang it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it with your role in that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you want to buy Kevin Fowler's catalog?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Contacts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But if I find you, I should have sold it when it was really chugging.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but that, but I still have my songs as one of the master, but I like about, I like on my music, you know, and it's still makes good money, I mean, it helps, but all that in the pot and helps you make enough money to keep rolling on a road.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's incredible.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sony owns a bunch of my masters from when I was there, so I'm trying to be recording some stuff Taylor Swift style.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, when it was a 20 years ago, normally not,

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can drink my water burger tea.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Take a drink of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: As well as later, I've got a water burger.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You weren't late.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just was only asking where you were because Jonathan Terrell wanted to say, how do you so bad?

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[SPEAKER_01]: J.T.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Love it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm, I had some Monday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's Musicians Saturday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm, I'm good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We work around Kevin Fowler around here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We've been wanting you on the podcast so bad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess Kyle has to go somewhere tonight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But we're good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My dog just has to pee.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the only thing I really care about.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, that's okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's interesting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's, uh, are you interested in doing any more label stuff, or you just independent from here on?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't have any reason.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have a label.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, what are they going to do for us that we can't do for ourselves, you know?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you're trying to go super mainstream, but I see all that all these guys are now, like time iris, I mean, there's a restaurant playing music together back in the 1990s and playing them, you know, all the same clubs, everything, watching that thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Go for zero to 90 and with no label, you know, and they were pouring the sound of the label that I already Bullpaw, you know, they finally you know, got mainstream management, you know, big national management and everything They needed at that point, but yeah, you can take it to zero to 90 I mean the Cody jinks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love the guys like Cody could get out there and You know, he's he's doing chats and arenas and and he's You know label right go the thing

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love that, too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody, whiskey, my heart didn't have all the guys at, and I've seen just, I've seen, I'm so damn old, I've been when they were just getting started.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And wow, that's why you got to be really nice to these kids.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah, coming up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, it's everybody's been asked when I coming up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, come on, open me, come on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know a time I ours up in for me, and Johnson City, we had, it was a venue, they had just started, and I think they already closed, like it just was not drawing that well, but he opened for me, and we had about like 50 people there, and I was like, this kid's really good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was so nice, and then like next time, I know I was like, set the guy that opened for me and Johnson City for 50 people, but I'm never like, I'm never, I'm never, I'm

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't feel jealous of those people at all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm very happy when it works for people like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Probably because I wish, you know, I wish that was how it happened for me, but also like people that deserve it that it pops from them overnight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm glad that they didn't have to do the, you know, I remember doing the six week radio tour where I would do like money Tuesday when saying them play Thursday Friday Saturday for six weeks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't want to drive yourself, but you'll enjoy living in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep, and it was really hard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I wouldn't wish that upon anyone, especially some younger girls on my, I remember just I would put, I would unload my guitar and keep my phone in my bra.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My mom would talk me on speaker phone while I would like load all my stuff into my hotel room, you know, late at night.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: just to make sure what I wasn't going to get murdered, what's my mom going to do about it on speakerphone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But that's, you know, it was crazy and they weren't super nice to me the first go around now they're all my buddies, but I can't imagine doing a national radio tour and that's like it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was I didn't like it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they have to take them all to dinner, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you take them off and it's coming off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, you know, the charge back to artists.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you're talking about that while you're just, just to make things something that everybody has their own musical journey.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, there's no set path.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, like, I always, you know, want to complain, but, you know, I didn't do this level and, you know, that, and I didn't achieve this and do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: California losing, who's winning?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, all the text artists, you know, yourself, clearly, I mean, there's, the way you make a live-in playing music is one in a thousand.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I would say, maybe more than that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: To make a good live-in playing music, you are ahead of the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so easy, it's like, you know, I always covet the next level, you know?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's just ingrained in people that are over cheers like us, you know, that

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you're not a workaholic, you're in the wrong business for this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, totally.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's fairly interesting because what I've been done with lately, like I just feel sometimes when people talk to me, if you're not Miranda Lambert or you're not doing it, or you're not successful, so like, I'm having to kind of...

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[SPEAKER_00]: You almost have to tell people what to think, and it's like, you know, this girl said, you Aaron Wattson, he's just totally independent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You should do that and do it yourself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, that is what I'm doing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm not telling people, you know, like it's, I had a girl in Oklahoma City.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, I'm so sad you're not bigger.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is on Saturday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And she's like, it just makes me so sad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, hold on, I almost sold out a listening room in Oklahoma City.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then the Cody Johnson boys left wristbands and parking for us

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm making good money, like, I'm okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm doing actually great, or like you said, I love how people would kill the people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they're trying to be polite.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's kind of, you can't like, it's kind of a jab, it's kind of like, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's, you have to figure out how to take it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nice go, thank you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's not like anything bother me more Mike.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How do I do that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you suck.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're all fat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love you, I love you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just move on down the road.

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[SPEAKER_00]: People have a God advice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Most people that are that way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're just miserable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're on lap.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's true.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of like, you know, well, I'm not stalking groceries, not washing trucks yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I've been like so weak, but I have to interview you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not being looking for a job.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How many people can we offend?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I love that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like watching you, you were having this conversation with me before I started doing it, but you were like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to be more picking and choosing about the shows that I take and just play the shows that make sense and I've started to do that where I'm playing less shows because when we started it was like the more you play the more you make the higher you climb and that's just also not the way that it is anymore.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not worth it to go play 200 shows a year or even 150 shows a year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I'm going to be right out about 100 maybe this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's plenty, maybe even a little bit more than I want to, so, but I just, you've always been really open with people like me and advice that you give, and I just want to say, hey, I appreciate it, but I'm proud of us being more picky and cheesy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We've gotten to where we can.

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[SPEAKER_00]: do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't leave the house.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, this is going to be guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's expensive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't want to stand.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you know what I'm talking about?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I got 10 full time guys on salary.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've got a bus that breaks down every time it breaks down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's 10 grand.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it breaks down a lot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and you got a driver.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You got fuel now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When fuel went up a couple of months ago, it cost me an extra $1,000 a month.

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[SPEAKER_01]: These little things that people don't understand it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're growing that bump.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you pressed anything lately, it's hard.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's expensive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you're booking management to make it's a cut.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But now you get this cut.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's crazy how do you always talk to music hobby right right here right here to avoid employment Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Have you always had your guys on salary and benefits and stuff?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean that's that's not

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[SPEAKER_00]: People don't always do that, like that's a big deal to have.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And my guys, I'm taller.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And guaranteed full-time gig, they've been that way free for a long time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's amazing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's amazing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And health insurance, and stuff?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I wouldn't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who would the health insurance would just do, where it must come still like that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Most of them all have it through their spouse.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, yeah, all musicians get employed to their spouse.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, Paul, he's got a very girl.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, Mary's a wrong, yeah, I don't, we're both like, do you have health insurance?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have, man, that's, it is so unbelievable expensive and just repairing the RV and what's really helped me lately.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My agent, he's like, we got to be more picky.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We got to stick to the plan and hold out for your price.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The more that I trust him, he's done a really great job, but he's like, think about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: People want Cody Johnson and they're like, call, he's a million dollars or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So our price or whatever, my price or whatever, like, it's kind of relative to be like, yeah, look at what.

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[SPEAKER_00]: some of these people are charging like I'm I'm actually a really great deal I'm going to show up on time I'm going to do a good job you're going to do a great job and you're going to be pro and we're not going to you know say if you on stage and break a bunch of liquor bottles that's fine if that's your thing but I just mean like you know any festival city festival or whatever that higher is us like it's it's still really they're still getting a good deal

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, thanks, too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Low risk.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Low, low, low risk.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Low risk.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What can we do?

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[SPEAKER_00]: How bad is our news so again?

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[SPEAKER_00]: We've got to have our fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's amazing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you start their new title for the episode?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would see Paul going.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Wait, but I did see you shot some content around green where we are coming to you from.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You went and shot some videos around here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You just love green so much.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you love me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Paul so much.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You had to move closer to us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, well, I'm still in Wibbly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But how about the property here?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right across the street here, and our note is in there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we're always working over there, and that, not just I'll love it down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love green.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody, my kids here and now, Grand Baby's here, I love it here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All my friends here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, 10 friends and we really have 4,000 friends.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because everybody, I don't know how this came like the National Attacks but everybody lives in the Texas scene now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It seems to seem to seem a good majority I'm living in the brothel.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Randy Wade Cody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's just on and on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's really good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I heard of the river.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And all the, you know, I'm a building junkie, saw the office cool old stuff down here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know I was wondering, how did you even get into your love of junk you call it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What did you say you're hiding taste and good taste and junk or something?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like me some junk.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why?

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[SPEAKER_01]: My dad was always a collector of old signs and old stuff and cutting with that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and then when I just fell in love with old houses, because like...

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, buy a new house, you know, eh, there's nothing to that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, the house over here has so much history, you know, we just, all this house in green, the original part was built in 1850s.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's one through the whole thing with the text, the store commission, we're getting the historical marker on it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's stories in them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You are getting a historical marker, isn't it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, next, next year we'll have a big...

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's her money.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You should hire me low risk.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I can walk here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can walk here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean walk across the creek.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's by the way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love y'all's little house.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You built so cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Corporate all kinds of cool wood in it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we had the scrap.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I went back and bought the, remember I went and stole the scraps out of your backyard.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It comes like some old bead board.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, what do you do about it over there?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Beat board over there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I, I think I let you take it from us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I was like, by the way, it's chock full lead paint.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't care.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I'm not going to chew on it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We have like gas masks and we were like sanding it and painting it and it was like, but that bebord is from the Shiner Homestead from the 1800s and it's on our bedroom ceiling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Where is it in your place?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's over here in storage, it's gonna go over here in the new house over here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, that's so nice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I knew Project over, it's gonna seek her right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know, I was gonna say, can you tell us what you're gonna do?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, because you have- It's all cool, it's coming to grain though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, something cool, something cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's always stuff coming cool, kind of grain though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I personally wanted a brief album as Calbar in the back of the Iron Oak.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was Calbar, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It tastes like a house fire to me, it tastes smoky and-

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like to keep every day is good, but my girlfriends are like, if I wanted to lick an astray, like they'd hate it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I love Miss Gal, so does Paul.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not a fan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We, really.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't drink much of the liquor anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is true story.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What do you think?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is what we get on the bus.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we park our bus out the country because it's a, it's a one of the, and, um,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll just, I bear with right now every weekend.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we have this, this cabinet, they're kind of above the driver there where we keep all the liquor.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And like, something gave us about liquor this weekend.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I should Martimana, I guess, is Mala McGregor.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I love her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The Mala McGregor.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love their bourbon.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'll go put it in liquor cabinet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there was just dust on the door, open up, and there was a dry dead mouse in there that had been there for so long.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We hadn't got liquor out there, it's so long that I'm now sick of there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was drives like a skeleton.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's so sad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm so sad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna go on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's less than anybody got the liquor cabinet, it was like, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, everything's long enough for a mouse to decay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm a fire.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, that is hilarious.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my gosh, wow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We get mice on our damn bus all the time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, get on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We had one with that for a week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We actually named the song on one of the, the, they believe me for the record I did on other street.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The guys did this instrumental, and even them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I know it's, it's called Master Daunus.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Master Daunus.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Master Daunus.

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[SPEAKER_01]: because it was miles with every Thursday we were going to be on the bus.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe a little mouse turned on your pillow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we couldn't catch him so I brought my game cameras, you know?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll find my dear feeder feeder and put it in here and we could get pet to get photos of him that couldn't catch him a little bastard took about a year to get him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, oh yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We had one just recently.

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[SPEAKER_01]: was caught in the I don't know why I've never heard of a mouse being all about it it's disney getting us nasty food and shit on there they like it all your best is always really clean whoo no it's was like so they're dirty boys well it's like trying to be in an RV but sounds like a locker room maybe

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, Paul told me the rule that you had or if anyone leaves anything in the fart lounge, do you still have that rule?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because it's brilliant.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I...

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[SPEAKER_01]: Pull it out?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, you put it in the freezer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what he said when you were in the air.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, frozen water.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was a J-Rass thing, I think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did I hear that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, yeah, that took... Who's wallet?

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[SPEAKER_01]: They took it and they put it in a jug of water.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Paul?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's wallet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he put it in a... Yeah, that was a gag for a while.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you, don't leave your stuff at the front lounge.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't leave your stuff in the front lounge.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't take off your boots in the front lounge.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was where they stink.

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[UNKNOWN]: I'm gonna go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is a worst thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just had a sick feeling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I like, that's the only time I've ever thrown up at all j's here, and it was not because I was drunk.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that was really sad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was really sad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was, I was just one that I like it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, we got to move on to the next but you have because we're also that's already running out of time Okay, baby, sorry.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Look at my look at my no behave and I don't even come or say how they're about to say hi And a new dose we're out those record is not kind of raffles just come see K-pop Get the baby on here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh She's so cool here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Look at say I had a break Jesus star

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's like, just the cutest baby.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you want to talk about the dospratches record before we go coming out?

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[SPEAKER_00]: When's that coming out?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it's good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We are going to start doing singles.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're just doing a single, though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we're going to keep that in that question.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just for me to get eight or 10 songs in them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're really slowing it in those out, but we do our trip every year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We moved, and now it's called Big Beach Fest.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was Big Cabo Fest.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just 6, 1300 people to Costa Rica.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Costa Rica?

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[SPEAKER_00]: How is the new location?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're my mama?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a cable, no more.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Are you still right there?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's so nice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is the cutest episode we've ever had.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Are you in the shot?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my gosh straight chillin.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How is Costa Rica versus Cabo?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Was it cool?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I was cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was totally different.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's more, it's not Mexico, you know, if you're expecting that, it's more, it's more, it's more, uh, jungle kind of.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's really fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's awesome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What do you come in?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my gosh, I love it so much.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, this has just been so funny.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm glad you have new music out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You've said it's been a long time coming, so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm just closing music out anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we still play, you know, and we can.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But almost, but we are taking more time off, you know, and it feels good, and, you know, I don't get burned out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so, you know, we, three days, and then that will time off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll do two days, and...

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's it was we were really all grinding for a bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm surprised we all survived.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We were fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to breathe.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would love if you came over here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You see, Marie?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's awful.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was crazy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Was that scary?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What is that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that a microphone?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my gosh.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is the cutest only vans that has ever existed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Can you say mama?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you're going to eat it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Kyle.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Watch out, he's just in the head of that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's right here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I'm getting a lot of changes, you have me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's been doing a hell of a red deck now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just capable.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I used to be bearding and how he's in red neck and now I'm less still drinking beer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We got a beer sponsor.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I got their hat on right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I do so well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love me a beer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, thank you so much for coming.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Kevin Fowler.com for all the dates.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a social media.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the social media and something exciting is coming to green.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I can't wait to see what that is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of stuff coming here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This awful is on fire right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'll love it here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I got a bit of a- Can I have a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run a run

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we love living here and we want to do more stuff here and we want to we want to be like the Kevin Feller commercial real estate guru ourselves We're working on it, but it's a lot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We have to first have a ranch and then we have to sell it to Paul Simon and then I know If you can't I'm so sad about that, you know, because I had kind of a structure there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My house, you know, I moved from fryhead over here I'm a dance hall Well, Kevin's and I mean, he's just was really cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was really cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I still regret that every day

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[SPEAKER_00]: regret it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a married man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you made more money, but that place was my baby.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was nine years of my life.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Making it look like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was perfect.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm so glad I got to see it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I'm not happy now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, listen, selfishly, now you came to green and now we get to see you all the time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I personally love it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Love it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Love that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you very much.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We can't wait for the new music.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Go buy the new Hill Country Honey shirt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's really cute.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is cute.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is a good job.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It did really good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was hoping you would bring me one, but it's okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There you go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, no vents.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just brought you a shit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I realize you got some shit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, oh, oh, she's already got to take a girl.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks, friend.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Finally on the podcast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He did it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Here she comes to floating down the world bay all the more the look and went.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She goes by.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She'll be having her a mall down a green hall all the look all your

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if I can never find my little love

