[SPEAKER_03]: Hey Richard Perez, will you do me a huge favor?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, my dear.
[SPEAKER_03]: What can I do?
[SPEAKER_03]: If I look tired to you, will you do me a favor?
[SPEAKER_03]: Not say anything about it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Of course.
[SPEAKER_03]: Will you tell me how good I look?
[SPEAKER_01]: You look so fabulous.
[SPEAKER_01]: So sexy and raw and present and just ready to
[SPEAKER_01]: I get the vibe that you're ready to chitchat.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm so fucking ready to chitchat and the best compliment you just gave me was that I look present and now I start crying because to look present in this stage, honey, I can serve that compliment right back to you.
[SPEAKER_03]: You got flowing locks, scored is lighting and you two Richard Perez look for your present as well.
[SPEAKER_03]: Wow, thank you so much.
[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's just, it's so hard.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's hard to do, but what else was hard to do?
[SPEAKER_03]: is a show called I have to do this at the grammar see feed or on October 6 we're going to talk about it because Chanti Buluga is opening for you and that will be a topic of conversation, but
[SPEAKER_03]: Another topic of conversation will be a post that you recently put on the internet.
[SPEAKER_03]: It says just a few cocks away from being loved and loved is in full caps.
[SPEAKER_03]: Richard, how many cocks left?
[SPEAKER_01]: That is something I don't have the answers to.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think if we're going to talk about being present, like, I just have to succumb and surrender to rock, cocks like each one, one, cocks after the other, learn what I can from each experience and keep myself open.
[SPEAKER_01]: all along the way.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I trust that one day it will just be enough.
[SPEAKER_01]: Did that happen for you?
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, that's a great question.
[SPEAKER_03]: Did I ever get to the cock that made me feel actually I did?
[SPEAKER_03]: Is that okay to say?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: I need to hear that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I need to be hearing that.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, I did.
[SPEAKER_03]: I, um, I married the cock that
[SPEAKER_01]: and before y'all got or before you started dating where you searching for kind of you were kind of around like in these year out in these streets.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was out in these streets, but in a way that I find to be different than the streets now because I was so playgued by fear that I, you know, if we're really going to get into the weeds of it, return is that I probably
[SPEAKER_03]: Accepted the cock, I thought I deserved, which is a great great cock, by the way, but I was so afraid to like let in a ton of cocks that I think I sort of Committed to one at the age of 24 and then both of our cocks grew to like really love each other But I think now the streets there are endless opportunities that I think it's harder to commit if that makes any sense.
[SPEAKER_03]: Are y'all
[SPEAKER_03]: open we are thank you for asking uh but we weren't for the first eight years of our relationships so i was again it was fear it was very fear like actually if i'm a quote a friend of mine aid and warden who um has a great sub stack he uh just posted about
[SPEAKER_03]: Sex these days and how prep has changed things for us gaze and I do think that it has changed probably the dating game too because we're allowing ourselves to have more some of us are allowing ourselves to have more sex.
[SPEAKER_03]: What is your relationship?
[SPEAKER_03]: I know you went on Caleb here in the podcast and said that you asked someone out.
[SPEAKER_01]: in real life and you were rejected, which is like feels like a vintage like a approach from like another time.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think people, I mean, in a really general sense, I just, I mean, it happens does happen every day.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like people are asking each other out and stuff like that, but I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's not always the go to, when you have Instagram, when you have
[SPEAKER_03]: No, it's like emotional analog, you know how things are now like analog is become a thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: So like asking someone else, IRL is like doing the hard records.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's the vinyl records of interpersonal conversation.
[SPEAKER_03]: In fact, let's get into the weeds a bit, Richard, you asked somebody out.
[SPEAKER_03]: They did say, no, but can you tell me, was it somebody that you like had it in the moment
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm planning it, this is the moment and then you went for it, what was like the build up.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so there's this guy that I became friends with a year ago, I met at a party, and I was like taking by him kind of right away.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think I also was just wanting to get to know him in general, but I think subconsciously maybe I wasn't so aware of it while it's happening, but this crush or like fantasy was.
[SPEAKER_01]: developing in my head and you know and I'm but I'm also I think a year ago I was just like more anxious and I mean I still have a long way to go to try to unpack a lot of these things in my relationship to dating and you know that stuff but I I felt like back then I was too precious about like
[SPEAKER_01]: everything.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, oh, like, I got to do this right or something.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's got to be the right moment to express interest or take a chance or ask some asks this person out, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And months we're passing by and we're getting to know we have like mutual friends and.
[SPEAKER_01]: we'd see each other a lot and but I was going crazy and I literally last summer fall I was if you ran into me that's like what was my that's what I was up to.
[SPEAKER_01]: And in a way it was nice to have that to, you know, because sometimes like, I don't know, like, I'd a show where it's just going somewhere and like some people do want to talk business or something or be like, what do you have to?
[SPEAKER_01]: What are you working on?
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, did it end up?
[SPEAKER_01]: And sometimes I can just diffuse it and be like, I have a crush.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they're like, oh, I don't like, yeah, and it's driving me crazy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, what's the rush?
[SPEAKER_01]: I've never done a crush, I mean.
[SPEAKER_01]: And also, that's so sweet, too.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, everyone has experiences in some way.
[SPEAKER_01]: And everyone has their stories.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then I kind of got to know other people.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know see a different side of like,
[SPEAKER_03]: people I don't know that well, you know, if I brought this up to them and but you know what you're speaking to that is so real is how crazy our minds can get without a definitive answer.
[SPEAKER_03]: The fantasy of the crush is sometimes more intoxicating than finding out if it's going to actually come to fruition if I can say 100%.
[SPEAKER_03]: So you're like living in this
[SPEAKER_01]: What if what if what if what if what if what if what if what if and I just felt like my all just in general to like my life in general was just just Change I'm just going through change in other areas of life and I'm trying to figure all these things out.
[SPEAKER_01]: So just everything felt heightened, but
[SPEAKER_01]: But not in a negative way necessarily, like, it was, uh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so, okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: So what happened?
[SPEAKER_01]: So you, so then finally like a friend, um, I talked to her about it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And she was like,
[SPEAKER_01]: you have to just ask him out, just do it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we had this like really sweet talk about it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And she really inspired me to just go for it.
[SPEAKER_01]: She's like, you got it.
[SPEAKER_01]: She's like, and no pressure.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not, it's not a big deal.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, just next time, you're going to see each other at a party.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, literally that night, I was going to see him at a party.
[SPEAKER_01]: And she, she was like, you're going to go up to him at the party.
[SPEAKER_01]: She's like, just smile, be like, where's she going to date?
[SPEAKER_01]: And if he says no, then just be like, oh, like, you could just kind of like brush it off like, oh, well, it's not a big deal.
[SPEAKER_01]: You got this, just go, but you, you owe it to yourself.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like you, you just have to know for yourself what, what's going on and just do it and you're fine.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then that night, he didn't show up to the party.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, so she texted me, she kept following up and she was like,
[SPEAKER_00]: She's like you have no reason to wait ask him now and I'm like no, no, I'm just gonna wait for this other thing blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, and then I also my brothers came like they surprised me, which was really sweet.
[SPEAKER_01]: They've never seen me perform before.
[SPEAKER_01]: Holy shit.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I did this show.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was like my crowd workshop and it was like one of my best ones I've done.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was totally in flow.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just everything.
[SPEAKER_01]: It just was a really fun night.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then when the show was done, I said hi to my brothers.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it was like really sweet and emotional.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then I got dinner with
[SPEAKER_01]: my friends slash my crush.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we had this like little night out, whatever, and then him and I end up alone.
[SPEAKER_01]: So then where it's one a we're kind of walking a little bit aimlessly.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then he calls it Uber and then I look at him and I was like, can I ask you something?
[SPEAKER_01]: And he was like, yeah, what's up?
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, I think we should go on a date.
[SPEAKER_01]: What do you think?
[SPEAKER_00]: And then he was like, oh, he was like, I wonder if he'll be upset that I haven't talked about this, but I don't think anyone will know it's him.
[SPEAKER_00]: But he was like, like a friend date.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, no,
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I usually, I usually abide by the rule of your sand, but this is a no it's I know it's no no no I want to go on like a a date capital D D date and And then I could see his eyes like took in my face like I think I couldn't conceal anything in that moment like I think I'm sure my heart and my face have not been that close together in a minute and I was like
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't even know what.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just saw him like take it in and he was like, I'm, you know, I think you're incredible.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then his car came and so then we we ended up like texting and then we met up the next morning and we like got coffee and just like sat at a bench and like talked more openly about it and it was really sweet.
[SPEAKER_03]: And now we're now we're good friends that's but you know, okay, I've so many thoughts, I'm probably starting to cry because I've been on oxycodone for the past two weeks and so I think my and I haven't slept in two weeks, so I think my I think my motion for real see on the search.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it's okay, maybe later, when it's okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: What I don't sleep, I'm like an inch away from crying at all times.
[SPEAKER_01]: Me too.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I've been actually, my sleep's really just regulated.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm kind of going through something.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I think I get a little emotional because I'm like, it's, it's so human to like, first of all, you're at your face and matching your heart.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's a lyric.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's put that into a song.
[SPEAKER_03]: those are bars, but also I think we're so conditioned to be afraid of failure.
[SPEAKER_03]: And and I mean the word failure in the sense of like putting something, I'm putting an ask out there or something into the world and then if it doesn't come back in the way you envision like there's like your friend said, which by the way, shout out to your girlfriend here, like
[SPEAKER_01]: it you what we are allowed to like a little bit like that I just want to say like that was Capre land who told me that so it meant even like carnivore become friends like over the past year and like just that friendship has been just so meaningful to me for so many so many reasons and
[SPEAKER_01]: And so you shout out to her and I just, she was so, so kind and so supportive and also like after that happened, you know, I talked to her about it and she was just very, very like caring and and just a really good friend to talk to about that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, you know, the people that listen to this podcast are the demographic that bow down at the altar of Cape Berlin, so to hear her.
[SPEAKER_03]: support as a friend is like a emotional porn for us.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I think that I want to shout out to the gut your crush because it sounded like he was so caring and sweet and good friendy about it, which is like, I care about you.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's talk about it the next day and make sure we're on the same page.
[SPEAKER_03]: So if anything, we are giving him his flowers because he treated you with
[SPEAKER_03]: the care that Richard Perez deserves and I think you're hopefully I do know actually that you're inspiring people out there to fucking ask their crushes out and guess what if it doesn't happen you're still that bitch and you're going to keep on being that bitch a hundred percent and like and also it's very valuable information to know if this person's interested to
[SPEAKER_01]: If this person wants you to in that way, like that is definitely really important to find out.
[SPEAKER_03]: In a way, it takes you out of your misery too, because now you sort of have the answer, and guess what's going to happen, Richard, a new crush will enter the villa.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know, and there'll be a new thing, and I haven't had something like that since then, but I've had like little crushes since actually, literally a week ago, there's this other guy I met,
[SPEAKER_01]: Or, okay, basically the Madonna party at Knockdown Center, met this guy through mutual friends.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're waiting in line together.
[SPEAKER_01]: I sense that we were kind of flirting or there was a little bit of like a vibe there.
[SPEAKER_01]: We spoke a little more when we finally got into knockdown center, but then like, you know, Madonna came on.
[SPEAKER_01]: Bye.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like we did not talk again.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was completely swept away.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was screaming on the verge of tears like Madonna's right there.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was singing along to a track of she's doing get together.
[SPEAKER_01]: the whole room, we're screaming.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was so beautiful.
[SPEAKER_01]: So then fast forward to last weekend, I saw him at a mutual friend's birthday party and it was like a different group of friends like it was we were both surprised that we would see each other there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So then we were like, oh my god, hey, like whatever we're chatting blah blah blah before I leave the party.
[SPEAKER_01]: He was he asked for my Instagram and so we followed each other and then and I took that as like, oh, maybe, you know, interesting.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so then the next day I've message them and I'm like, hey, like it was really lovely seeing you.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think you're really cute and fun to talk to like we should hang out like what's a week looking like.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then he let me know, oh, I'm seeing someone like this is this, whatever, and now it's it's done for a day, but I was like, whatever, yeah, like it normalize having the crush taking the action getting the information it's also like you can apply that to literally anything in your life, which is just like if you're if you're like take a dance class or whatever, like just fucking and I think like that's been a huge part of my like
[SPEAKER_01]: comedy journey, because getting on stage was, I thought about it every day, dropped my 20s, and to finally get to do it, and especially like, no, no, just through all these different
[SPEAKER_01]: changes and, you know, just growing pains that you experience throughout your life.
[SPEAKER_01]: Then to finally get to a place where you're like, I can do it.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's fine.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I will bomb.
[SPEAKER_01]: I do bomb.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just bomb the couple nights ago.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it just happens.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like doesn't mean you have to attach to it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And oh, I don't deserve love.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm horrible.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was never like no one ever really believed in me and that it like it's just like, just kind of have to.
[SPEAKER_01]: just let yourself embrace the full experience of it.
[SPEAKER_03]: And while knowing that no matter what the experience is, at the root of it is like, I have value, I matter.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, I am worthy.
[SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_03]: You and I have similar, you know, our careers, of course, different but our journeys, I think right now, like, artistically are similar with growing pains.
[SPEAKER_03]: And we're going to talk about on the subject side, actually,
[SPEAKER_03]: have some questions about the reality of the bids for you that I think will be interesting to hear about, especially for the Richard Perez fans that want to know some of the BTS.
[SPEAKER_03]: Also going to talk about you manifested something very beautiful to the media company, Rhanna Mack.
[SPEAKER_03]: You manifested something saying, I'm dating my crush and we are so in love.
[SPEAKER_03]: We are couples, goals, love when we fuck.
[SPEAKER_03]: So you're going to tell me on sub-stack how you fuck in your manifestation and then I can't avoid it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, I cannot, and I cannot wait to hear about the plowing that occurs, but um, something that is huge professionally and we are going to get into a podcast question, but I just want to write this way, and as you said, be present.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's talk about Chanti Buluga, Richard Peruzzo, Chanti is opening your Grammarcy Theater show on October 6.
[SPEAKER_03]: Tell me, what is your history with Chanti?
[SPEAKER_01]: Chanti Buluga is a dear friend of mine.
[SPEAKER_01]: We basically, I was there at the birth of Chanti Buluga.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you can believe, I was there when the words were first said into this world.
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_01]: Describe it.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, Courtney the creator is Courtney O'Donnell.
[SPEAKER_01]: hysterical hilarious brilliant comedian slash actor she is it's crazy she's unreal she's so like sharp quick witty and absurd like she makes me laugh in this way that's like I feel like so
[SPEAKER_01]: like lit up inside right now and we're me her and like a few of our friends we all were working on a movie together that like Veronica Slovakoska is the star of and yeah so there's this movie that's like we're working on and it was our last day shooting is that
[SPEAKER_01]: And so where it was the last day of shooting and we were also working on the last shot, which would be Veronica, like it all took place in this one location and this was restaurant.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Veronica's outside.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so they're setting up lights for her for outside.
[SPEAKER_01]: But they still wanted some people, like we were essentially background for like this final shot.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so we it was like we've wrapped up for I am like we're delirious.
[SPEAKER_01]: So anyways, this is like one, so let's go back to one I am we're here just kind of like whatever like riffing and making each other scream laugh we were completely like delirious and then Courtney asks me this is my memory of it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Courtney asked like we're riffing.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're doing some sort of like actor riff like bit or something like we're just playing around Courtney's like what's your name and I was like Lawrence and then she laughed at I was like what's your name she's like I'm chanty chanty blue guy.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then we just like lost it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then two minutes later, she had Zach film her do her slate.
[SPEAKER_01]: Where she's like, I'm Chanti Beluga, five four, reading for the part of Cryptkeeper.
[SPEAKER_01]: Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
[SPEAKER_00]: And then we were just screaming laughing.
[SPEAKER_00]: We eventually were like, shoot it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like we were chanting.
[SPEAKER_00]: We came up with a song.
[SPEAKER_00]: We were like, chatty baluga, uuga, uuga, chatty baluga, chatty baluga, chatty baluga, chatty baluga, uuga, I like all of us were singing it.
[SPEAKER_00]: while like one of the producers are like there's like crew there and just kind of like trying not to laugh and they're just like it was so crazy it was so much fun and then that the next night was the rap party.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then I saw Courtney and she she was like, I created an account.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, I was like, oh, oh, oh, I do just like, yeah, like she's just like, I'm just going to have fun with it.
[SPEAKER_03]: When did she how long go to she create the account to now?
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was literally like July 30th or July 29th or July 29th.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're recording this on August 21st.
[SPEAKER_03]: Chanty Beluga blew up like about a week ago.
[SPEAKER_03]: I would say like it is so funny how the internet works.
[SPEAKER_03]: People are asking to like,
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, you're seeing posts of like, why is this funny, why, why is just people who go funny.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think what, how you described it distills it in a beautiful way.
[SPEAKER_03]: You hear the syllables, chanty, beluga, especially a reading for the role of Cripkeeper, which is just like an added sprinkle.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I think just like the way the, the syllables, the consonants, the vowels of chanty, beluga hit.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's already fucking money.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's so funny and then I don't know like there was a comment I saw that that's had this feel what I love about this is that this feels like an inside joke between friends.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, and that's so sweet because I'm like, yeah, that's that is the spirit behind it and I also just think it's like Courtney's just I mean, it's also her sensibility like what what she does with.
[SPEAKER_01]: Chanty Blue and like her being like a sort of fish burrito, like kind of adding all these like words together that are kind of like crazy and Matt Madlib ish or something like that's so her sense of humor anyways.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like she's always been kind of playing this way.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, if we kind of zoom out for a second, you know, I think it's a big deal that she's
[SPEAKER_03]: I've actually read some blind items that you and Chanty had a beef at one point.
[SPEAKER_03]: What was that all about?
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, um, sorry.
[SPEAKER_01]: Does it your policies?
[SPEAKER_01]: My purpose at what?
[SPEAKER_01]: So we have to go and so sorry.
[SPEAKER_03]: We can change the conversation.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, what's your favorite, uh, what's your order at Chipotle?
[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't, I didn't mean to bring up the Chanty beef.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know Chipotle.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love Chipotle.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, I do like that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Whatever your beef with Chanty is, it's so fraught.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's so bad that I can't even talk about it legally.
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't talk about it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, no, I love the chanty, blue go of it all.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm so excited to see her rain continue.
[SPEAKER_03]: If I was in New York on in October, I would be at your show.
[SPEAKER_03]: And by the way, I've seen your show and I love it so fucking much.
[SPEAKER_03]: I can, I hope everyone continues to support, um, but you know what, I think that this podcast needs your support with an answer to a question that is a follow-up.
[SPEAKER_03]: When you came on this podcast in 2023 Richard Perez, I asked you whose fault is it that you get your gay and you said playing trumpet made you gay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Richard Perez, the follow-up question is, who was your first gay?
[SPEAKER_03]: What was the first gay where you were like that one?
[SPEAKER_01]: on its way may be criss-a-t-t-an on that's a doubt playing oh my god what a first guy I mean I think I think that might be I don't know and I just remember my mom too kind of joking around and being like, hello well, that's so you
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, interesting.
[SPEAKER_03]: T. Yeah, uh, you have two brothers.
[SPEAKER_03]: Are you the only get gay one?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, as far as I know.
[SPEAKER_03]: So far.
[SPEAKER_03]: What a first gay, Chris Katana's mango.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, do we know what Chris Katana's up up to these days?
[SPEAKER_01]: Is he, is he on the right side of history?
[SPEAKER_01]: I have, I have no idea.
[SPEAKER_03]: I've no clue, but I just put in the comments.
[SPEAKER_03]: If you know Chris Katana's up to you.
[SPEAKER_03]: What's Chris Katana up to?
[SPEAKER_03]: If anybody knows, if anybody's related,
[SPEAKER_03]: This audience has gotten so huge.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure one of you is he gay is he like an out.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think so I think Chris Gattan is a straight guy
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, so maybe that or I'm trying to think like my first exposure to like gay, that or like a disc or the classic like, you know, a Disney, actually this is going to be a good segue into substitute because I'm going to ask about your first boy boy kiss and that will be
[SPEAKER_03]: I think a really interesting question, but before we do that, let's just make sure we ask another important question, which is you posted a really beautiful rendition of West Side Stories America on Instagram.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think our listeners want to know what other musicals make you feel alive.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, so musicals are fairly new to my life.
[SPEAKER_01]: I honestly got, because in high school, I mean, I just had my own repressed sort of thing going on and I wasn't pursuing
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I would audition for the school play.
[SPEAKER_01]: I did it once in middle school.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then I was in the chorus for freshman year in the music band.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, sure, shout out.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I had one line.
[SPEAKER_01]: I played one of the kids who was like, it's the band instruments.
[SPEAKER_01]: That was my line.
[SPEAKER_01]: Which is so apropos, the trumpet player.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's the band instruments.
[SPEAKER_01]: And, and then after that, I just, I didn't audition anymore, my quit band.
[SPEAKER_01]: I completely went this other route.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, I'm a photographer, I'm artsy, I'm introverted.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like listening to Coldplay and like, you guys so fucking get it.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm not using one of your favorite Coldplay songs.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, one of my favorite Coldplay songs.
[SPEAKER_01]: Honey, you are a rock.
[SPEAKER_01]: a poem with just end and I came here to talk.
[SPEAKER_01]: I hope that you understand the green eyes yet a spotlight shines upon you.
[SPEAKER_03]: Do you know that song?
[SPEAKER_03]: It sounds like you're singing like an elephant's chair role.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know, yeah, this doesn't actually sound like in the style.
[SPEAKER_00]: But there's this one lyric where he's like, I've made this my Facebook's Facebook status so many times.
[SPEAKER_00]: Where he goes and anyone who tried to deny you must be out of their mind.
[SPEAKER_01]: bars.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've held I've rinsed and repeat that over and over and over.
[SPEAKER_01]: When is the last time you updated a Facebook status?
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean probably before I deleted my Facebook entirely.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, so it must have been like before lockdown.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, like a 2019 or something.
[SPEAKER_03]: God, the days of Facebook statuses and how emotional we got.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it was really, it's so funny how we've had to not have to.
[SPEAKER_03]: How we've gotten to express ourselves online.
[SPEAKER_03]: First of all, it was the AIM away messages.
[SPEAKER_03]: Remember when you would like.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, my God.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
[SPEAKER_03]: And then it was a face book.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, there was a my space moment.
[SPEAKER_03]: There was a Facebook status.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think I think how people express themselves.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like their Instagram stories now sometimes can give you a window into what they're like.
[SPEAKER_01]: And my space or Facebook or something like, if you're someone that shares songs on your stories, I'm sure you were doing those YouTube links on your Facebook statuses.
[SPEAKER_00]: Are you going to make it look like you love it?
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I should, I just can't chase him, babe, man.
[SPEAKER_01]: I like making that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I also, I love what Facebook status is, we're like, Richard Perez is, should I be on your boat?
[SPEAKER_00]: Richard, I just keep chasing, babe, it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Richard Perez is,
[SPEAKER_03]: Nobody's got a right on mind.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah, but to answer your question, I was after Sondheim passed away, then I saw like Instagram stories about like his work and and then someone posted this really hauntingly gorgeous.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's like this demo album
[SPEAKER_01]: a version of him singing losing my mind.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it is, I still listen to it.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's what it gives me chills.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like one of, it's such a beautiful stripped down, just like you could just hear it in his voice, this like the heaviness of like the song and like the weight of it.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's so stunning.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so then after that, I was like, huh, and I saw Larry Owens, 20, 20, yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And like 2021 or 2022, I saw Larry's show.
[SPEAKER_01]: blew my mind.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, what is like, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I'm like, huh, musicals, musicals are interesting.
[SPEAKER_03]: Musicals have something to with them.
[SPEAKER_03]: Larry Owen's sang a rendition of a certain song.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm song that Matt will be able to remind me.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, I think it was, it's from Sunday in the park with Joe, uh, just what the fuck was the song?
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll find it, but years ago, we were like in some like concert, uh, that he sang and he and he fucking tore it up and I've been obsessed with him ever.
[SPEAKER_03]: I got to see that song, I'm just hit on him show it passing a playhouse in L.A. like, oh my god, so fucking good.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, but you know what, that's actually a great segue for our final pod question before we cross over to Substack and Richard Perez, you answered this in 2023, but the answer can change airy day.
[SPEAKER_03]: And that question is if the world was ending, then you could only save one character actress.
[SPEAKER_03]: Who would you?
[SPEAKER_01]: I recently have been seeing clips of a podcast
[SPEAKER_01]: huge.
[SPEAKER_01]: She's just like fascinating.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think she's just like a raw like nerve slash talent and just I don't know and then there's this one clip where she was talking about I guess there's like mortality or something like kind of
[SPEAKER_01]: going into just when you experience like some sort of grief or some sort of loss of just how your life can totally shift perspective and it can be inspiring to to a certain extent where you're like I got to live my life like I really got to just like just go for it and just
[SPEAKER_01]: embrace it.
[SPEAKER_03]: The kind of what we're talking about and I was just going to say yes, I asked the crush out, grab life by the horns and just do it.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, Alana Uba came up recently because she is probably my number one answer on most days.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, she.
[SPEAKER_03]: in Sister Act 2 plays one of the students.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, and her voice is like, butter.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh my god.
[SPEAKER_03]: The love boat.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: And she, um, and then from there, you know, she's she's just done so much.
[SPEAKER_03]: My actual, my stray brothers will quote her from me, the
[SPEAKER_03]: the like housekeeper will show and it's it's one line where she goes jays i got a book job and it's just the way they're like you look amazing jays i got a book job the way she she's so um she's she can be dramatic boots in euphoria she can be
[SPEAKER_03]: She's an absolute icon, and the word is overused, but she is capital I icon, and I'm so glad that you have chosen her Richard Perez.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, you tell these listeners before we cross over to Substack.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're here about your manifestations of gorgeous sex, where we hear some behind the scenes about your professional life.
[SPEAKER_03]: Your first boy boy kiss, will you tell these listeners where to follow you and it is anything else you would like for them to know?
[SPEAKER_01]: Where I post the most is on my Instagram stories, Richard underscore Perez.
[SPEAKER_01]: I will be in Philadelphia doing this solo show called I have to do this.
[SPEAKER_01]: I will be there at Full of Moca on September 8th.
[SPEAKER_01]: uh, and you should come.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: If you live there or if you know people that live there, send the filly gays and girls with taste, go see Richard show at the Grammysie theater, the link in, uh, Richard's Instagram is in the description.
[SPEAKER_03]: And, um, come over to sub-stack because I have to thank all of the sub-stacks subscribers.
[SPEAKER_03]: For making my dreams come true, and I just would love for you all to hear the rest of this conversation, which is going to start off with this question of, you have a manifestation, which states, I am dating my crush, and we are so in love.
[SPEAKER_03]: We are couples' goals.
[SPEAKER_03]: I love when we fuck.
[SPEAKER_03]: Richard in this manifestation tell me how do you fuck and do me a favor make a graphic?
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so I have been
[SPEAKER_01]: having sex for the like anal sex for the first time in like 10 years.
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was kind of a subconsciously I just kind of fell into becoming a side for 10 years.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I got really anxious around it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think eventually I put it up on a pedestal along with like just dating in general.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so February, this past February, I really, I like spontaneously just hooked up with this guy who was so sweet and I bought him and I've just been bottoming since then.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I love it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm learning to like, I mean, it's so like, duh.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I think most people know this.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I really like to start out writing if I can just because it kind of opens up easier.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: For the rest of the interview, head to sub-stack linked below where you will also find chats with Colin Braun, Rich Burns, Christopher Patterson, Rosso, Tyler Varval, Sebastian Dino, Cody Silver, Johnny Sibley, Sam Altizer, and more.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's at substack.com slash at Eric Wills, and I will see you there for a gorgeous Harry Hornie time.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love you, bye!