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[SPEAKER_01]: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back once again to Homemade Your She-Crycast.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is the podcast where we are rescuing the art of homemade food from the daily grind.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've been reflecting lately Angela, Angela Reed, a Parisian foreign girl, my co-host here.
[SPEAKER_01]: We started this podcast in 2020, six years ago.
[SPEAKER_00]: And first off, I'm proud of us because most podcasts don't make it in terms of just like they don't keep going it is really we really should celebrate that it is a thing actually it is a big deal and I think that you and I are just like
[SPEAKER_00]: such goalpost movers that we never really sat and went like, wow, we did it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we're just going to have this idea on a whim and here we are six years later, still doing it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, which I do.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that that's that's worth celebrating.
[SPEAKER_01]: We never do it perfectly.
[SPEAKER_01]: We always tell you guys we're right here alongside you in the trenches.
[SPEAKER_01]: It just sort of dawned on me this past week, though, six years in like a family time.
[SPEAKER_01]: is a really long time.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so when I thought back to, you know, like the kids when we started in Julia, I don't know if she was potty train.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, but it was just, oh my gosh, so my oldest was 10.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's weird.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's weird to think about.
[SPEAKER_01]: And gosh, what is the next six years going to bring?
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what's kind of like, boom, I don't know how I think about that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it might.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: No.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, both our youngest were four.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, so they were potty trained four.
[SPEAKER_01]: They were, they were.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're right.
[SPEAKER_01]: That was bad.
[SPEAKER_01]: That was bad maths on my part.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Maths.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_00]: Mm.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Six years from now, I just, I don't know you guys, I and I know because of your comments, we've read these the last few weeks.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I was just
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: First off, how's that possible?
[SPEAKER_01]: Because I'm still only 23.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's your teenager.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so start 38.
[SPEAKER_01]: Math and math and math and math and math and um.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, oh my gosh, I had this hilarious moment.
[SPEAKER_01]: I gotta tell you about this.
[SPEAKER_01]: We went to family camp this past weekend with our church.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we were there for three nights, four days.
[SPEAKER_01]: And my friend, Jodie, hi, Jodie.
[SPEAKER_01]: Her oldest two now are going off to college.
[SPEAKER_01]: So her oldest was gone at college last year but was back for the summer.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we were all saying goodbye to her over this weekend because she was heading back.
[SPEAKER_01]: but her second is getting ready to go to college as well and this is his first year going.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, emotions are a little high and we're all feeling quite reflective and try not to like, to feel our age so much.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm sitting next to Jody and we're talking about this and there's a moment of silence.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're watching the people dance and finally she just turns to me
[SPEAKER_01]: Nothing, she just, don't really thought she heard something in her husband because Jodie, don't let the old in.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just this.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, there.
[SPEAKER_00]: What did you say?
[SPEAKER_00]: He didn't when he was little, he'd go, what's that?
[SPEAKER_01]: It was.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, of course, the joke over the entire weekend was like, don't let the old and don't let the old in and not to say, I think getting old is, I really do think it's really beautiful.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I want to, I want to get old.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I want to, in really enjoy the next 40 years of my life and not spend
[SPEAKER_01]: um however there's old and there's old right and I don't know I don't know there's just I've been thinking about that a lot like what does that mean um what does that mean because people do awesome stuff when they're old there are writers they miss writers who like at 40 hadn't even started writing yet yeah
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, people who have done amazing physical things, people have taken up new hobbies.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we've done a few episodes this season on like learning and
[SPEAKER_01]: and growing, and changing, and I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I think that's really the thing though.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I think what we see when we look at aging, the things that we don't like, or the things that are like, hello, are like the not moving forward, the not continuing, like the results of that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think when I think of old too, I think of just like, personality, or these like absolute statements,
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, Stu, we're just talking this morning, he's not flexible at all.
[SPEAKER_01]: He played soccer for so many years and he met like in the dogmatic sort of away.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no.
[SPEAKER_01]: no, he's actually physically not flexible.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so he was sitting on the bed.
[SPEAKER_01]: He was, you know, attempting to touch his toes with his legs straight and we were just having a good laugh at it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, you know, people, he's like, I'm just not flexible.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, people learn how to be flexible.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, that's actually something you can do.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because you had body is not practice on.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's to not be flexible.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: You can practice being flexible.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like isn't that cool?
[SPEAKER_01]: This way you are in five years, in two years, could be not the way that you are.
[SPEAKER_01]: So when I think about somebody who's old, I think about somebody who's just like, well, this is the way it is.
[SPEAKER_00]: And.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like I watch people in my life and they decide that like really early on and I think that's something that's maybe that's why I'm so like Because I saw that like just desire to mic-drop and Whatever whether it was just like let the wake come or just dig into your dogmas or what what up stubbornness Cratchy whatever.
[SPEAKER_00]: I've seen that in maple and I just like oh, don't want that
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't like that, you know.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, my mom, like, gosh, God love her.
[SPEAKER_00]: My mom does, like, sit to stand with, like, big weights every day.
[SPEAKER_00]: Did you hit out of a chair?
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I think I have so much respect for that.
[SPEAKER_00]: She's not, she's gonna be, she's socially 73 in a couple of weeks.
[SPEAKER_00]: She can pop, uh, honestly, like, sorry to talk to my husband.
[SPEAKER_00]: She can pop out of a chair faster than, all right, he's been kidding.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not kidding.
[SPEAKER_00]: She really can, she can, but she's, she's making that investment in her cell phone.
[SPEAKER_00]: She's, yeah, yeah, it's cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you ever do the like, um, I follow a few fitness people because I don't do like look, I'm just a human.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just a weak little human.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I need motivation just like everybody else.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So when I see somebody getting it, it helps me to want to get it.
[SPEAKER_00]: It really does those like 78 year old ladies that become like weight lifters.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my gosh,
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I think.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I mean, I love watching those people because I'm like, I'm sorry, you're 84 and you're deadlifting.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think I can manage.
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you, body for all you've given to me.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so he'll do things like just sitting on the ground and then he'll bring his legs around to one side and then he'll bring them out to the other side and then he'll like get up from the hill crosses legs in front of him and then stand up on it.
[SPEAKER_01]: You just like basic.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, here's the thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I can do that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like sometimes I have sat on the ground and had people go, wait, how old are you?
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh-huh.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I can sit with him this way.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to think of what social scenario you would find yourself.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like, we're in town or in town and we're like, at a band concert or whatever.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, just sitting on the ground.
[SPEAKER_00]: I sit on the ground with my kids at the beach, for example.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like to play in the sand or whatever.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, what social scenario.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to read aloud at the library.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to do it.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so, and I can, that's no problem, and I, I guess it is kind of freaky, because I don't see other people doing that.
[SPEAKER_00]: But that whole thing about sitting, like you're saying like cross-legged, and then standing, can you do that?
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I, or, you know, it's not like it's a strong core.
[SPEAKER_01]: Whatever, she's hiding it, but it says she's hiding an eight pack underneath that shot.
[SPEAKER_01]: You can't see it, but it's in there.
[SPEAKER_00]: I cannot do that.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they're like, this determines how long you'll live, or whatever, like some of those stupid reels, but I literally, my brain doesn't know which muscle to send the command to.
[SPEAKER_00]: I just, I sit there and I'm like, do something.
[SPEAKER_00]: Go!
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm thinking, like, go up, we're, up, we're going.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I can't do it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't do it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I can like get like a half inch off the ground just because I'm like jerking myself up.
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't do the cross leg.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're about to end up into your calves and into your feet.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, it doesn't work.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not hilarious.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I can't like raise my eyebrows and I can only wink one eye because I also don't know what muscles.
[SPEAKER_00]: Send to the right eye, my gift can like raise one eyebrow and I try it and they're like, mom, you're not doing anything.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I know, I just always wanted to be like scar little hair and I know I know what muscle won't fly, bro.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, also the, I'm in my workout room right now.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is workout room slash office slash library.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I told to do I want to install like a, a hangy, just a hangy bar.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like the one thing I can't do on tonal because I do want to work on just like my hang time because they say like the posterior chain like it literally is your whole body and it is come.
[SPEAKER_01]: How long you can hang your own body weight just your butt just hang.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, is like the most Core-related thing to longevity that they know of in terms of physical Performance so it's not the sit to it's not the cross like no It's hanging which I'm no you can okay, wait wait.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what they say anyway The last I heard how long is one supposed to be able to do this?
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I don't know I saw an 80 year old do it for like three and a half minutes
[SPEAKER_01]: And they just like do it a little bit every day.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're just, you know, same thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Can I do it for 10 seconds?
[SPEAKER_01]: Today, can I do it for 11 seconds?
[SPEAKER_01]: Today, can I do it for 12 seconds?
[SPEAKER_01]: That kind of thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: What is the the hard part?
[SPEAKER_00]: Is it grip strength?
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's grip, but it goes into your forearms, which goes into your biceps, which goes into your shoulders, which goes into your muscles along your spine, your core, obviously.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's just like every connect, every muscle is connected.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, because my, that's the way my little lazy brain understands tired fast well grip strength is something you have to I a lot of older people I guess some of the people I fall or old
[SPEAKER_01]: It's grip strength because yeah, the granny can't open a jar, but yeah stuff like that you can actually train for if you want to.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my gosh, like I'm a Lee's hands and her look for from paying the piano.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Beast yeah, he's a beast just muscle.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, their muscles, their things that you can train.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, so you need like a bullet bar or some just a pull-up bar.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I'm getting one.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, a little pull-up bar that you can just I'm just going to have to put it in the doorway and just I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's good.
[SPEAKER_01]: Cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's good.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't, I don't want to be the type of person who ages and just like, well, this is this and this is this and now I feel like this and my knee hurts, no, no, no, no, I know that you do the extra work, but also to like just the
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not trying to sound judging.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Whatever.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I have two girls like in the service industry and they come home with some doozy stories.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: And from their observations,
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm wondering where you're going with this.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm afraid one of two ways.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: You either become a crotchety old bitty and a circ old fart of a man.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Or you're just delicious.
[SPEAKER_01]: And she's like, just the, I love that word born negative side of it is so disheartening.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're like, how do these?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's just what happens when you get older just entitled and horrible and condescending and you think the rest of us are all bumbling idiots and you think you have a license to treat us this way come on with some like I'm like a shame for these people like
[SPEAKER_01]: Tell me one, tell me one, I wanna know.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, just like, about, like, I don't know, okay, the other day, somebody was in the shop.
[SPEAKER_00]: Amelie is like, she's like, server of the weak quality in our community.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, she said a little newspaper article about her, and she prides herself, like, people come in and they want her to make their latte.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, she's proud of her race to skills.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, very fussy, very fussy.
[SPEAKER_00]: One of her co-workers was working the other day and just just brain farted, just brain farted.
[SPEAKER_00]: He ordered a latte and she grabbed a clear cup which indicated he said ice latte, and she started writing on it.
[SPEAKER_00]: And this guy just dressed her down in front of everyone.
[SPEAKER_00]: What are you doing?
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I said, I said I wanted a latte and never said anything about ice.
[SPEAKER_00]: Amelie steps in like I handle it makes him a lot of day gets done hand to him.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, I'd like a couple of ice.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I guess he wanted to cool his coffee off or something.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, just after that whole tirade and shaming someone to not connect the dots.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, and wait, now you're going to ask for ice after you just said, oh, you know, you know, you know, you know,
[SPEAKER_00]: Ma'am.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_00]: I just wanted a hot latte.
[SPEAKER_00]: I see you're writing out a plastic cup, but it's been a long morning.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: That is my least favorite trait in somebody.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you are a main holiday to people, if you're just mean to people,
[SPEAKER_01]: I go, that sends me from zero to 60.
[SPEAKER_01]: It really does.
[SPEAKER_01]: I have no stomach for it.
[SPEAKER_00]: But she just, they, they, they both notice that it's mostly older people.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just second license to be mean.
[SPEAKER_00]: And like I said, the opposite, it's like one of the other, the opposite, or it's just like fabulous.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and they have a rapport with them and whatever, but so many more times than not, they come home with these horror stories of just crotchety nasty people as a certain age.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What do you think that is?
[SPEAKER_00]: I, so when I'm looking at us as we're aging, I see there's either this fluidity for change.
[SPEAKER_00]: And this open-mindedness, pardon me, and this desire to continue to grow, or maybe they were kind of like chugging along that way, and then they get to a point and they're like, you know what, I don't want to do this anymore.
[SPEAKER_00]: This was hard.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's hard to be a decent person learning new things and trying new things and being fluid.
[SPEAKER_00]: Having grace for other people, they like, yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_00]: They like double down.
[SPEAKER_01]: Actually, I'm going to go back to maybe they had like 10 years where they were rocking and rolling and they kind of like revert back to, okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Before they started thinking progress.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think just like a surrender, it's easier.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, who is that like Gary Brecker?
[SPEAKER_00]: What is he to see if like some sort of catchy line about aging the seeking out of comfort?
[SPEAKER_00]: Aging is not out of comfort or something like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I do find that is a...
[SPEAKER_01]: you have to like fight against that.
[SPEAKER_01]: So when we were camping, you know, imagine camp, bunks, mattresses, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, like, it's my back hurts.
[SPEAKER_00]: Just think it's exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I was like, be, don't let the old end.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, okay, you can sleep on a hard mattress for a couple of nights.
[SPEAKER_01]: And not every good master know about it and not everybody needs to know.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, well, here I am
[SPEAKER_01]: But because we seek and we have accessibility to so much comfort that any times there's a of a wish of discomfort.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're like, well, we can solve that problem, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: And so that's what old people do.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's why you get lazy boys pardon if you have one.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's why you get lazy boys that have a little fridge built into the armrest.
[SPEAKER_01]: You see, the lazy boy wasn't mad and you lift up the lid of the armrest and get your beer, get you your beer out, right, because you don't want the discomfort of standing up out of a chair and why, I mean, my grandpa, okay, he was my favorite person on the world, so I would say this to his face.
[SPEAKER_01]: but we live in a culture that's just swallowed by comfort seeking.
[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely swallowed.
[SPEAKER_01]: That is the number one objective.
[SPEAKER_01]: Be comfortable.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, be comfortable.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, so that I think that is what he says, like aging is the seeking out of comfort.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I mean, it's,
[SPEAKER_00]: It takes a lot of intentionality to seek out being discomfort, discomfortable, uncomfortable, scuttle, uncomfortable.
[SPEAKER_00]: Uncomfortable.
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe I should learn how to speak before I get a microphone.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and so maybe like at a certain point, it's easier just to go out of one and do this anymore.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's hard.
[SPEAKER_01]: There are really stupid ways in which the supply in my in my life.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, um, I have a job.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I have to work that job.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you guys, I am on day 14 of trying to figure out how to set up my new email address with Google.
[SPEAKER_00]: Not kidding.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, and I have enlisted how I have enlisted help and I'm like, it sends me, it sends me to the moon.
[SPEAKER_01]: I, like, I immediately feel so much rage about it because I'm like, I am not a stupid person.
[SPEAKER_01]: I am, I am here.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm willing.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm attempting.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I'm not stupid.
[SPEAKER_00]: Why can't I figure this out back end of Google is like the eighth level of how that's what it feels like and I don't if you only have a Gmail account just stay there stay comfortable because the but you think the back end of meta is confusing the back end of Google is at a veritable nightmare.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's, I don't know if I'm going to be a surf figure it out.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a circular nightmare.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like this link to do it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Click it.
[SPEAKER_01]: You go back to point point A. I know, yeah, all I'm trying to do is to set up Shay at Shay's Italian kitchen and have it go to my Gmail.
[SPEAKER_01]: Have it forward to my Gmail.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I own the domain.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hi, like it's.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've enlisted help.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've just gone to Stuart and been like, look, I, I am actually at the end of myself and I need your.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm aging.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm telling you what I'm back.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's really tricky to be like, I'm going to keep trying.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to keep trying to expand because it's either.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it is kind of like you sing or you swim, and we've told our kids for years, you adapt and overcome.
[SPEAKER_01]: You adapt and overcome.
[SPEAKER_01]: You need to work for the next 20 years online.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you better start acquiring some information, you better start acquiring from some skills, watch the trainings, do the things.
[SPEAKER_01]: It all looks very nice when it hits the public, but behind that are like tangles of circular meta and Googles and tears.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hell yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just trying to do like the most basic things.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was trying to run my payroll this morning.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it was like, do you want a pass key or something else?
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't even know and I was like, well, I don't have a pass key.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I was like, I guess I'll do the other thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they were like, hold your SRT fob, close to your phone.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, what?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, I run my pay will every two weeks.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know exactly about what you're talking about.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just like, that's okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: QuickBooks just decided to suspend my accounts.
[SPEAKER_00]: We had to like start all over, reconnect all the credit cards.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yesterday my account and message me, they're like,
[SPEAKER_00]: Could you see what's going on with good bugs happening?
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, yeah, I had to, I had to just hand my phone to do or like a five year old me like, how me?
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't figure out and do this thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: I do every two weeks because he goes, you know, they're just trying to keep your account secure.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, from me.
[SPEAKER_01]: But from me.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, obviously the hackers are I'm probably smarter than me.
[SPEAKER_01]: But um, what was my point in that?
[SPEAKER_01]: My point in that was it's really uncomfortable.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's really, really uncomfortable, and it takes severe mental fortitude to think, okay, this is uncomfortable, and it's going to be uncomfortable, and I'm just going to sit with this discomfort for the next three hours, while I try to solve this problem, while I try to figure this out.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's hard to sit in that.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's like holding a squat, man.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're like,
[SPEAKER_00]: right now.
[SPEAKER_00]: I would like this to stop.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, um, I will not, if I get this way, you guys, slap me.
[SPEAKER_01]: I will not be crotchety and I will not be mean.
[SPEAKER_01]: I will, I will not let it happen.
[SPEAKER_01]: I write, might I've told you this before, am I right, myself notes?
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, here's how to remember how to be when you're older.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they mostly just say things like, be helpful, shut your mouth and be helpful, shut your mouth and be helpful.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, when we first had kids, I was a little cage danger in the crunchy world because I'd had been so like kind of sick physically in college and I was just living really, really unhealthy, really like had a proper come to Jesus moment.
[SPEAKER_01]: And my whole belief system just kind of like changed and I became an actual like believing Christian and then downflow from that right I get like I get married I have a baby I slowly start to like heal my body I think of a lot of the just
[SPEAKER_01]: nonsense and started to pay attention to these things and really wanted to curate a home.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, man, I was just in, I was list out.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was so happy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Very cage stagey where I was just like, I want to go back and read some of the old blog posts.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like it's very obvious.
[SPEAKER_01]: God bless my parents.
[SPEAKER_01]: They were, when I told them, oh, we're only doing cloth diapers.
[SPEAKER_01]: So when you babysit, you're gonna have to, you know, do these cloth diapers.
[SPEAKER_01]: And like, no laundry to charge the church, and they have to like soak in the bucket of tea tree oil.
[SPEAKER_01]: And like, please, no plastics.
[SPEAKER_01]: And this, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, they never made me feel stupid.
[SPEAKER_01]: They were just like, okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, that's like, like, okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Do what, do what you want to do.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and I really appreciate that because it would have been an opportune time for somebody a bit more personality maybe to be like.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, well, you know, oh, yeah, you think you're like this, and that's just way, just wait.
[SPEAKER_01]: The two worst words you can ever say to a parent, they could have made me feel really stupid for sort of having these maybe overly ambitious ideals about what I was thinking about and here I am making my own baby food right like doing all the things.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they didn't and I think I really took note of that because they knew they'd raised a bunch of kids, they'd already had a bunch of grandkids like
[SPEAKER_01]: They were coming to the situation with a lot more experience than I was, obviously.
[SPEAKER_01]: But they never made me feel stupid.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I want to remember that when I have kids, like you need to let them, when I have kids, when my kids have kids, when my kids are older, you do have to let them go through their stages too.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you have to let them process things, just like you did, and you have to let them have ups and have downs and explore these things and come to the, and your job is just to help.
[SPEAKER_01]: who does just to help, excellent, excellent.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, sir, love it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, she went, oh, there's some, for some amazing aging, lovely.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I told you we were, you know, Angela and I, we tried to plan these things out sometimes, but sometimes it just has the spirit of moves.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: As the spirit moves, something that's on our heart, do we want to talk about?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's go through some comments.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I got to give.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, shoot.
[SPEAKER_00]: Told didn't tell me her name.
[SPEAKER_00]: Somebody was in the shop yesterday.
[SPEAKER_00]: Long time listener to the show said the show really helped her during a rough patch.
[SPEAKER_00]: I could maybe text.
[SPEAKER_00]: I wonder if he'll even remember her name.
[SPEAKER_00]: But if that was you and you stood there shooting the breeze with him and told him that, thanks for coming in.
[SPEAKER_00]: I missed you and I was there the other day when Jessica and her beautiful family came in.
[SPEAKER_00]: They were vacationing in the area, lots of kiddos and it was it's always a delight to meet a listener and she was lovely and I hope you're enjoying your new dress Jessica.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now I'm jealous you good to meet so many of these listeners I do I shape I can't believe how many listeners come in.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's so cool.
[SPEAKER_00]: Why I always end up like crying or hugging or they're like, can I take a picture?
[SPEAKER_00]: Mmm, that's you can.
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow, that's wild.
[SPEAKER_01]: I told Angela that when when we were in Italy with our last group in October,
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, it blows, it blows my mind, I guess.
[SPEAKER_01]: They were all podcast listeners.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it just kind of surprises me, because I mean, it's not like we get millions of downloads.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it doesn't feel like it would hit that many people.
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: But it does.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the, you know, the people that it does hit it.
[SPEAKER_01]: You guys are a pretty loyal, pretty loyal bunch.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm grateful for that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so good comments.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's do some comments.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Here's one from Taylor North.
[SPEAKER_01]: Shea an episode or two back.
[SPEAKER_01]: You said you had a lot of Elliot homestead merch.
[SPEAKER_01]: Please let us buy them.
[SPEAKER_01]: My one Elliot homestead sweatshirt has seen better days.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is funny because I actually got quite a few emails like this after that episode.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's funny.
[SPEAKER_01]: But
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, a mouse got them.
[SPEAKER_01]: I went out and I was like, let me go take out the boxes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, there we go.
[SPEAKER_01]: Quite sad.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, nice.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry, Taylor.
[SPEAKER_00]: Mrs.
[SPEAKER_00]: Double Day said, I somehow ended up listening to your in the trenches part one episode, October 2020.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yikes.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know.
[SPEAKER_00]: Have you gone back and listened to any?
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I haven't either.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think I could.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was laughing and crying within the first 25 minutes, Chase, New York accent, had me cackling as a mom of three kids for two and 11 months.
[SPEAKER_00]: I found so much encouragement, but also hope in that episode.
[SPEAKER_00]: But also hope in that episode.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's so bittersweet to hear where you and your children were then compared to now.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a mom and the trenches just wanted to say thank you for adding some joy to my
[SPEAKER_00]: That's wild, that's an old episode.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so fast forward, fast forward six years from where you are now, Miss Double Day, and you're at 10, 8, and 6, 7 almost.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like that's such a different, that's so different.
[SPEAKER_01]: But that's so different.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's well.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't remember doing this New York accent here in this episode, obviously, it was a long time ago, but did you know, remember how I've told you guys that like, I have this real problem with mimicking.
[SPEAKER_01]: accents like vocal inflections.
[SPEAKER_01]: So when I go some like when I talk to my sister in law on the phone or my mother and law, that was who gets like a southern accent.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, not day two, 15 minutes and 15 minutes and okay when I was in Sicily with the Laura's I was starting to say words it's so unintentional like I was starting to say words with her she has a New York accent and some of them are coming out that way.
[SPEAKER_01]: It is there is an actual come to Wisconsin name for it there's a name for it and I don't remember what it is but it's like
[SPEAKER_01]: Mrs.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sickness and I thought about it because Cali Cali for listening, Cali text me the other day, she I think her she said her sister-in-law is from Tennessee or something and she's like, I don't know how you are with accents, but when I'm around somebody with that speaks a little bit differently, my brain's like, we now talk like this.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is how words are set.
[SPEAKER_01]: Ranbiotic convergence, I was like Cali accommodation, you know what it's amazing for though, like when I was in Italy last time.
[SPEAKER_01]: This sounds egotistical and I don't mean it like that, but the last time I was there in May, I got like six or seven comments on my accent and they were like, whoa, because, but because you mimic, yeah, you're like a mockingbird, you're like, oh, this is how we say, okay, I can say it with that accent, so it's amazing for learning languages, but makes you sound like an absolute turd.
[SPEAKER_00]: linguistic convergence speech accommodate or speech accommodation.
[SPEAKER_00]: Can you do that with any language?
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I can do it with French, but like my Spanish pronunciation is
[SPEAKER_01]: Autrocious.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you haven't packed.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I've been because I can't, there's certain sounds, vowel sounds in French that do not exist in Spanish and my tongue just wants to do the thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't know like an idiot.
[SPEAKER_01]: I could do it with French when I was learning French and it was amazing and French is really difficult because you really speak from me.
[SPEAKER_01]: different part of your mouth, and so it literally exercises like muscles of your tongue and your throat that you're not used to using.
[SPEAKER_01]: So my actual mouth would get sore when I was speaking that Italian and Spanish are both very much at the front of the mouth at the tip of the tongue, which is how a lot of English is said to.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I think it's a little bit more comfortable.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm pretty good with the Spanish accent.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but I don't know if that's just because of Italian.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know Italian, bro.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, yeah, my mother, I have like three Texans coming with us on our KVN trip at all in September.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll like, oh, just, this is it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just be ready, everybody.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm not trying to be, I'm not trying to be stupid about like a, it's like a physically, really, really hard.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't send you to Minnesota.
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
[SPEAKER_01]: I did that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you remember that one YouTube video?
[SPEAKER_01]: I did a thousand years ago about my picks and I said, GM, I can't do it now.
[SPEAKER_01]: How would it, somebody from Wisconsin, GM, all?
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, say it really weird and people are like, whatever you're doing.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, I think I just got a phone with Angela.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know why you should.
[SPEAKER_01]: Next.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, Amelie does not want a Wisconsin accent.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, sweetie, I know ours is not, despite what you listeners think.
[SPEAKER_00]: Mine is not that strong.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, compared to people down the road, all right, I go into town or whatever.
[SPEAKER_00]: But we went to orientation last weekend, her college and she told somebody where she was from and she's like, oh, I can tell from the accent.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, she can do like we met back up for lunch.
[SPEAKER_00]: They had like the parents in the students going back and she's like, mom, it happened.
[SPEAKER_01]: No way.
[SPEAKER_01]: She goes, I've gone out of my way.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, to not have one.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I mean.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to be in the city.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to have a Chicago accent.
[SPEAKER_00]: You think if you have any tinge of the Wisconsin, you're going to go to Chicago and it's just going to be like instant.
[SPEAKER_00]: You'll have the Chicago accent, which is slightly different.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's still Midwestern.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's cute.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, accents are amazing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, at this comment is making me laugh, scramble and my gosh scramble nags always says this sweet comments are funny funny we must have been talking about being strange talking about are you talking about hair or on our faces or oh, by the way, I'm so glad the camera can't pick up this one that's coming off my chin right now the mic is covering it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Posting through the mic.
[SPEAKER_00]: She says, if I get shipwrecked on a desert island, I would look so worried that I don't think anyone would want to rescue me.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'd just be stuck there.
[SPEAKER_00]: I live on an island now.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm.
[SPEAKER_00]: Pretty bad.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they're just big, good day.
[SPEAKER_01]: I do think of my like my routine is fairly simple like I don't wear a ton of makeup.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think I'm going to hide me after I'm not contouring things every, you know, all this kind of stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: My girls kind of tour like I got a couple girls that contour.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, that looks like a lot of it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's on.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm wearing it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And even still like it done.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, so if we don't have mascara and eyelash curler, a toothbrush
[SPEAKER_01]: the library almost.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's true.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Here's from crowning country.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is on the learning is the lovely episode.
[SPEAKER_01]: Totally agree about getting into the habit of reading.
[SPEAKER_01]: I lost touch with reading as a young mom.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm getting into it now more that I don't have babies anymore.
[SPEAKER_01]: I try to have a devotional and a fun book going at the same time.
[SPEAKER_01]: I even pulled an Angela and raised to beat someone else to a gorgeous new to meet Ethan Allen coffee table with drawers so that I can keep my growing
[SPEAKER_01]: I already shared you guys, we shared with you guys a couple of episodes ago about going to the library.
[SPEAKER_01]: I got a bunch of fun books like let's just read some fun books and still nobody left a comment about the library organization which blows my mind.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm still so ups and I'm not bad.
[SPEAKER_00]: No one left to comment.
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought for sure somebody would like, I know.
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow, we don't organize fiction by the author's last night.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's do this.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Your turn.
[SPEAKER_00]: Can you read that?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Can you read that thing?
[SPEAKER_01]: Can you don't let the author in?
[SPEAKER_00]: Get your readers.
[SPEAKER_00]: uh, Jessica says great episode.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is learning is lovely.
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, it's like I'm marinating my thoughts in so many delicious ideas at 37 my older four kids are the same age as Chase, but we also have Jonas the bonus.
[SPEAKER_00]: I love it.
[SPEAKER_00]: My gosh is three.
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to know if bonus came first and then you decided to name him Jonas or look
[SPEAKER_01]: My mind went to Jonas Brothers when I saw the big J. I know, I was like, be, what's she going to say?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Jonas, the bonus, who is three at the stage in life, I always feel the most main character when I've pursued learned grown in overflows to bless others, not those moments are a culmination of all the effort.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I just need more to say, I gotta explain.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_00]: Jessica, this is exactly what we were just talking about, though, like, be helpful.
[SPEAKER_01]: All of this that we talk about, it can be like, really, really, naval gasey.
[SPEAKER_01]: Where you're just, how do I feel?
[SPEAKER_01]: How am I ageing?
[SPEAKER_01]: Am I learning?
[SPEAKER_01]: What am I reading?
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm in, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it can just be so narcissistic.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think the helpfulness is what keeps it out of that lane.
[SPEAKER_00]: Wait, for sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're pursuing things.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're learning things.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're growing things.
[SPEAKER_01]: Why?
[SPEAKER_01]: To what end?
[SPEAKER_01]: I think would be such an important point.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm glad that that got brought up in this comment.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that, I know, maybe we've talked about this before.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't really remember.
[SPEAKER_01]: Have we talked about the concept of retiring on the show?
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm probably just on the left.
[SPEAKER_00]: Briefly.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I just started to say something in French, like with.
[SPEAKER_01]: The wires get crossed.
[SPEAKER_00]: People are playing the piano in the background.
[SPEAKER_00]: I got a send a text here.
[SPEAKER_01]: Ah, OK.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think the idea of retirement is a really interesting topic in regards to sort of what we were talking about at the beginning of this episode.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you have this, you have this idea that you're supposed to save enough money and then use, you stop.
[SPEAKER_00]: Work.
[SPEAKER_00]: First of all, who can do that?
[SPEAKER_00]: Step one, have a bunch of fun.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was calculators.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, have you seen the new trend where people are basically like they're living like homeless people until they're like 35 and then they're trying to retire.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a name for it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like a catching name for it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like we did I feel like that has come up.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I haven't seen it.
[SPEAKER_00]: You have.
[SPEAKER_00]: I remember that.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like this new cultural thing where people are just like, I'm gonna, I'm gonna work as much as I can, like not do anything else but work, spend zero money as little money as possible, and then I'm gonna retire when I'm 35.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that I can just live my life, whatever.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I just think this is a really on Christian concept because I don't think it's the best posture for us to have of just like, I'm going to go get mine.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think the Christian, it's like Jessica saying here.
[SPEAKER_01]: The Christian is actually for your whole life.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right?
[SPEAKER_01]: For your whole life, the purpose of your life does not change.
[SPEAKER_01]: You are here to glorify God and enjoy Him forever.
[SPEAKER_01]: That is your purpose.
[SPEAKER_01]: That is why you have every breath in your lungs.
[SPEAKER_01]: That is what fills up your purpose of your day today tomorrow, 40 years from now.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's obviously going to be a time in which you cannot work to this work, to the same capacity that you do now, but the church is set up in such a way that ideally you have older people who are experienced, bringing helping, helping, to bring up.
[SPEAKER_01]: the next generation, helping the moms who have little ones, helping the youth who needs a little bit directions and is wrestling with some hard questions.
[SPEAKER_01]: you need that generational wisdom and knowledge and look even the age that we are now.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're able to go to our kids and say, look, sister, I've been there too.
[SPEAKER_01]: I have felt those things too.
[SPEAKER_01]: And now when I face down something that feels insurmountable and ugly and awful,
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't feel that same dread that I did when I was a lot younger because I know I have felt that before and I know that God has been so good and so faithful and I know that when he says no to something, I trust that answer because we have a history now.
[SPEAKER_01]: and we have decades of him providing us with what we need and saying no and providing us with something better.
[SPEAKER_01]: That doesn't mean more money, more sick.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's not what I'm talking about when I mean better.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean like better for our souls.
[SPEAKER_01]: When you have that experience, you're able to
[SPEAKER_01]: impute something to younger generations that they can't quite see it in the same way.
[SPEAKER_01]: And this is why it's such a shame when older people just go insular and they withdraw and they, if they say something to the younger generation, it's just like, well, when I was
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's such an incredible loss when the older generation isn't willing to interact with the younger generation in a way that just sort of says,
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm here to help you in a meaningful way.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm here to be a part of what you're doing.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm here to invest my time, invest my energy, et cetera, into where you're at.
[SPEAKER_01]: If I'm just trying to retire so that I can go play golf and live my best life, that's not really the way the way
[SPEAKER_01]: That's not really.
[SPEAKER_01]: That just means you're getting yours.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, that phrase, like, you're living your best life, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: You are living your best life.
[SPEAKER_01]: That becomes very navel casey, very very navel casey.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I can't be bothered to watch my grandchild on Friday.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, that's when I play pickleball.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think we would do good even now, and then we're not grandparents, but like even now, like, how can I be helpful?
[SPEAKER_01]: How can I be helpful?
[SPEAKER_01]: How can I be helpful to my kids?
[SPEAKER_01]: How can I be helpful to my husband?
[SPEAKER_01]: How can I be helpful to my best friend?
[SPEAKER_01]: That doesn't mean you're a door mat.
[SPEAKER_01]: It means you're intentionally putting yourself in a position to look outward and not inward because inward just gets very vacant and
[SPEAKER_01]: bitchy really quickly.
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe that's the problem cranky people order and coffee.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think they're not they're not serving people.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think cranky people are serving people.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think cranky people are serving themselves.
[SPEAKER_01]: Have you ever experienced that where you're just maybe you're having to focus on yourself or some reason or another like this can happen with work I think when you're having
[SPEAKER_01]: It makes one, it does make one a little bit.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah, I mean, think about, like, you have a day with your job or the house or whatever and you're just like slogging through it and you know, and you've got a little one that skins journey like how and and you're needed and how quickly that everything just you get pulled out of yourself.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: I, oh, it's not an Angela centric world universe boops.
[SPEAKER_00]: My bad.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let me care for you.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, let me care for you.
[SPEAKER_01]: There is a vitality that comes from that, that no amount of, like, working out, optimizing sleep, like, whatever, I've got a great new outfit to wear.
[SPEAKER_01]: From the word, there is no, there is a nourishment to your soul that comes from that, that absolutely nothing else can fulfill.
[SPEAKER_00]: Nothing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, like you said, importantly, we're not talking about being a door mat.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you have to care for yourself.
[SPEAKER_00]: You can't lift green babies if you don't have the biceps anymore.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like you have to, you have to care for yourself.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm also not talking about like not caring about what you think or what you want.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not talking about that either.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I think we have, it's like really black or white, but it's like all or nothing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hopefully lose yourself to your family or you're on the golf course.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's like it's often just the easiest one to throw into the bus.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, yeah, we have some friends of ours that we went to church with for a really long time.
[SPEAKER_01]: I told you about them.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're the ones who moved Tennessee during COVID and they bought a house in the same village that we take our groups to, just provident surely.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so when we go there, every once in a while, we go there, they're there too.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we get to bump into each other.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're older.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're in their late 70s.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and, but it's always such a joy to catch up with them.
[SPEAKER_01]: They've been retired for a while, retired from, as in they, like, they sold their businesses and aren't working in that traditional sense, but they have always had this amazing passion for Christian education.
[SPEAKER_01]: So they were really involved with it when they were here.
[SPEAKER_01]: They were involved with it in Tennessee.
[SPEAKER_01]: And now, in Italy,
[SPEAKER_01]: they are starting up, they're working with a German, and in Italian, two Italians in a German, and them.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're working on starting up like the first private Protestant Christian school in Italy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Holy God.
[SPEAKER_01]: and it's amazing because they speak zero Italian, and so like, you know, they're on these zoom meetings and like everyone's trying to communicate like three different languages, but they're trying to be there to say, hey, we can actually, we can bring something to the table.
[SPEAKER_01]: We have 50 years of experience in this field and we would love to be of services.
[SPEAKER_01]: of be of service to you in sharing what we know about curriculum is sharing what we know about sending new things out.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so they're investing their time, they're helping, they were asked to help and they're helping with this school formation, it's in Florence.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, they're in their late 70s and they're just like, nah, I can't be bothered to be on the suit.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm kind of
[SPEAKER_01]: They're still intentionally putting themselves in saying basically like, well, how can I be of service to you?
[SPEAKER_01]: What do you have for us here?
[SPEAKER_01]: And Dan told me he's like, we prayed for that for a long time.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like if we're gonna be here, this all sounds very posh and lovely, going to our house in Italy.
[SPEAKER_01]: How can we be of service to you there?
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, how can we help?
[SPEAKER_01]: How can we help the community?
[SPEAKER_01]: How can we help?
[SPEAKER_01]: Other people, how can we be, how can we be productive, helpful citizens?
[SPEAKER_01]: Regardless of what age we are.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: Something I've been thinking about lately.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think not working should be the goal.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's like that what we go back to the very beginning.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not the most comfortable thing to be helpful.
[SPEAKER_01]: It takes something from you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you're saying, actually, I'm going to intentionally enter into this discomfort because it's valuable.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a coffee break.
[SPEAKER_01]: go team.
[SPEAKER_01]: Alright ladies, believe it or not, next week is our final episodes season 29, so that means we're in season 30, which just, these may feel like I'm 100 years old.
[SPEAKER_00]: 100 years old, help.
[SPEAKER_00]: Alright, okay, we'll be back here.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep, we'll be with you guys next week.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, cheers.