WEBVTT 00:02.437 --> 00:11.223 [SPEAKER_00]: Christian parenting before we get into today's episode I want to tell you about one of the sponsors a little by little homeschool conference this year. 00:11.823 --> 00:12.263 [SPEAKER_00]: Vela. 00:12.944 --> 00:17.667 [SPEAKER_00]: If you're here today you already know something a lot of people are only starting to catch up to. 00:18.227 --> 00:20.288 [SPEAKER_00]: homeschooling isn't a fallback. 00:20.749 --> 00:22.210 [SPEAKER_00]: It's a calling and it's working. 00:23.090 --> 00:33.096 [SPEAKER_00]: Across the country, families just like yours are choosing to homeschool because they want more for their kids, and education that reflects their faith, their values, and their family. 00:33.857 --> 00:36.918 [SPEAKER_00]: This is part of something bigger than most people realize. 00:37.819 --> 00:41.901 [SPEAKER_00]: Since the pandemic, more than a million students have left the traditional school system. 00:42.282 --> 00:47.405 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in the education. 02:27.065 --> 02:29.327 [SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to Little By Little Home School podcast. 02:29.507 --> 02:34.712 [SPEAKER_00]: I am your host, Lee Nguyen, and super excited thrilled that you are here for today's episode. 02:35.192 --> 02:40.197 [SPEAKER_00]: Episode 480, and here we are closing in on the end of August. 02:40.737 --> 02:43.980 [SPEAKER_00]: Which means there are only two weeks this week. 02:44.380 --> 02:52.864 [SPEAKER_00]: which has already started and next week to get your ticket for little by little homeschool conference you just heard me share about one of our amazing sponsors Vela. 02:53.204 --> 03:04.969 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna put the link for them in the show notes so you can easily go ahead and see because I mean I know you're curious about it out but if you have not gotten your ticket for a little by little homeschool conference now the conference is happening on September 19th. 03:05.969 --> 03:10.796 [SPEAKER_00]: with ticket sales, it is a hard firm closing of the door on September 4th. 03:11.257 --> 03:17.907 [SPEAKER_00]: You can get your ticket at littlebylittlehomeschool.com slash conference or simply follow the link that is in the show notes. 03:18.328 --> 03:20.291 [SPEAKER_00]: Now let's get into today's episode. 03:21.976 --> 03:29.820 [SPEAKER_00]: As you begin a new homeschool year, I really wanted to discuss this topic today of at the end of homeschool what really matters. 03:30.020 --> 03:38.504 [SPEAKER_00]: You might say, Lee, I have a kindergarten and a second grader and then, you know, little ones that are just kind of rolling along the floor and are just tagging along. 03:38.904 --> 03:41.666 [SPEAKER_00]: So why would I even think about at the end of homeschool? 03:41.926 --> 03:42.186 [SPEAKER_00]: Listen. 03:42.826 --> 03:56.017 [SPEAKER_00]: After graduating three I just I can't believe how fast it has gone and I've spoken to so many moms who are in a similar season of life of me or they are entering their last year or two of homeschool and they're just like where did the time go? 03:56.037 --> 04:07.746 [SPEAKER_00]: It's just it's been someone said recently it's just was such it's one of my greatest adventures and we don't always think of it as an adventure when we're deep in the trenches of peanut butter and jelly sandwiches and 04:08.406 --> 04:15.709 [SPEAKER_00]: and disciplining and discipleship and math lessons and the dog running out the door when it's not supposed to do all those things. 04:15.729 --> 04:17.330 [SPEAKER_00]: We don't think of it as an adventure. 04:17.730 --> 04:21.011 [SPEAKER_00]: Life is simply just doing day in and day out. 04:21.351 --> 04:23.512 [SPEAKER_00]: There aren't always these exciting things. 04:23.532 --> 04:26.093 [SPEAKER_00]: They're exciting things that are interspersed in it. 04:26.633 --> 04:35.678 [SPEAKER_00]: But homeschool is just doing the thing, day in and day out, week after week, month after month, year after year, no matter how many years those are. 04:35.798 --> 04:46.743 [SPEAKER_00]: And so here I am after graduating all three, and I'm looking back and at the time as they were little, I knew what mattered the most during that time. 04:46.823 --> 04:49.604 [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't necessarily lose full sight of it. 04:50.125 --> 04:52.266 [SPEAKER_00]: The day it and day out didn't always keep that 04:56.207 --> 05:05.215 [SPEAKER_00]: But what I needed at that time was I needed this where I'm going to share with you today to be spoken to me over and over again, to remind me. 05:05.575 --> 05:10.319 [SPEAKER_00]: And that's my goal for today's episode as you kick off a brand new home school year. 05:11.160 --> 05:14.103 [SPEAKER_00]: I know that it's so easy to get lost in. 05:14.963 --> 05:18.304 [SPEAKER_00]: a frazzled and stressed in the weeds of academics. 05:18.664 --> 05:21.604 [SPEAKER_00]: Now, I'm not saying that academics is not important. 05:21.945 --> 05:23.285 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not telling you to ditch all that. 05:23.385 --> 05:29.426 [SPEAKER_00]: In whatever method, whatever style of homeschooling that you do, please don't stop doing that. 05:29.546 --> 05:38.328 [SPEAKER_00]: Because we know that educated children, they grew up to be educated teens, educated young adults, educated adults, and they can thrive in the world. 05:39.428 --> 05:48.736 [SPEAKER_00]: We know that if an uneducated child will continue being uneducated unless they can kind of pull themselves up by their bootstraps or someone gives them a chance. 05:49.156 --> 05:51.338 [SPEAKER_00]: But you are the one that's giving your children a chance. 05:51.398 --> 05:55.962 [SPEAKER_00]: You are providing them with an education because they can thrive out in the world no matter where you are. 05:56.682 --> 06:01.543 [SPEAKER_00]: what areas and arenas and is this isn't even just about what job your child gets. 06:01.563 --> 06:08.785 [SPEAKER_00]: We get so focused in school to think about kids in high school and as they're graduating like, what are you going to do with your life? 06:08.825 --> 06:10.085 [SPEAKER_00]: What are you going to you're going to go to college? 06:10.105 --> 06:10.966 [SPEAKER_00]: What are you going to major in? 06:11.046 --> 06:13.186 [SPEAKER_00]: Or so focused on that? 06:13.246 --> 06:14.467 [SPEAKER_00]: But what about the other stuff? 06:14.507 --> 06:15.667 [SPEAKER_00]: Now I'm not saying it's not important. 06:15.687 --> 06:16.547 [SPEAKER_00]: You need to make an income. 06:16.607 --> 06:19.368 [SPEAKER_00]: If you don't make an income, you can't provide for yourself. 06:19.628 --> 06:19.848 [SPEAKER_00]: But it's 06:24.209 --> 06:34.291 [SPEAKER_00]: He isn't going to judge you by the job that you got, whether it was some high fancy job that had so many degrees and everything, or one that didn't have. 06:34.311 --> 06:37.912 [SPEAKER_00]: You just simply had a homeschooled home school diploma, which maybe you don't even. 06:38.112 --> 06:40.153 [SPEAKER_00]: My state does not give us necessarily a high school diploma. 06:40.573 --> 06:42.813 [SPEAKER_00]: They get a homeschool from mom diploma. 06:43.033 --> 06:45.314 [SPEAKER_00]: But your child is not going to stand before God. 06:45.334 --> 06:50.455 [SPEAKER_00]: Some day and say, well, I only had a homeschool graduate diploma. 06:50.535 --> 06:52.536 [SPEAKER_00]: And you say, well, you know, you could have done better. 06:54.556 --> 06:56.737 [SPEAKER_00]: So there's that balance of it. 06:57.297 --> 07:00.738 [SPEAKER_00]: God is going to judge us in a different way. 07:00.858 --> 07:06.359 [SPEAKER_00]: And those of us that are in Christ, then we know that we have that redeeming work of Jesus. 07:06.999 --> 07:08.839 [SPEAKER_00]: So we're not gonna get into the Gospel presentation here. 07:09.620 --> 07:12.320 [SPEAKER_00]: That's your job to give your kids the Gospel presentation and we'll get into that. 07:12.620 --> 07:18.022 [SPEAKER_00]: So we, but listen, the academics, it is important, but we can get so lost in the weeds of that. 07:18.702 --> 07:21.002 [SPEAKER_00]: So I want you to ask yourself a question to figure out 07:24.684 --> 07:30.148 [SPEAKER_00]: Ask yourself, what will my children carry with them from their years of homeschool? 07:31.129 --> 07:41.798 [SPEAKER_00]: Again, yes, knowledge, we want them to carry that, especially when looking at giving them a really solid math foundation and a solid foundation when it comes to reading and writing. 07:42.378 --> 07:44.500 [SPEAKER_00]: Everything else bridges off from that. 07:44.901 --> 07:46.722 [SPEAKER_00]: So yes, they do that solid foundation. 07:48.003 --> 07:52.107 [SPEAKER_00]: the basis of everything is that math and the language arts. 07:52.447 --> 07:55.950 [SPEAKER_00]: And so that knowledge, having that foundation is very important. 07:56.350 --> 07:57.471 [SPEAKER_00]: But let's just put that aside. 07:57.691 --> 08:02.195 [SPEAKER_00]: We're going to just tie that up in a nice little bow or maybe a little gift bag and put it aside. 08:02.396 --> 08:07.460 [SPEAKER_00]: But let's like slightly pulled up because I do want to say that those academics and that 08:08.000 --> 08:18.224 [SPEAKER_00]: core schoolwork that you are doing is the basis of it all but it's a great tool that can also be used to teach our children self-discipline. 08:18.344 --> 08:19.845 [SPEAKER_00]: We can teach them initiative through it. 08:19.905 --> 08:21.385 [SPEAKER_00]: We can teach them tenacity. 08:21.805 --> 08:27.487 [SPEAKER_00]: A lot of character and heart work can go into the actual academic work. 08:27.888 --> 08:36.171 [SPEAKER_00]: When we don't really enjoy the history that we are learning about or we are really struggling with the math and so our anger starts to build up. 08:36.991 --> 08:39.353 [SPEAKER_00]: And so then you can recognize that and talk to them about it. 08:39.373 --> 08:41.295 [SPEAKER_00]: Like this is literally just math. 08:41.455 --> 08:43.017 [SPEAKER_00]: There's no reason for my kids. 08:43.037 --> 08:47.281 [SPEAKER_00]: I just remember just being like, why are we getting so upset about math? 08:47.401 --> 08:50.724 [SPEAKER_00]: It's just like a tiny fragment part of your day. 08:51.164 --> 08:52.606 [SPEAKER_00]: And why are you letting it control you? 08:52.786 --> 08:53.346 [SPEAKER_00]: See right there? 08:53.747 --> 09:02.735 [SPEAKER_00]: That's a lesson that you can get into and you can model and show your kids and walk them through this and get them hopefully to the other side and they'll grow in maturity. 09:02.895 --> 09:05.116 [SPEAKER_00]: and wisdom, and hopefully that isn't the case all the time. 09:05.136 --> 09:06.556 [SPEAKER_00]: They're getting so upset about that. 09:06.616 --> 09:13.059 [SPEAKER_00]: But the academics can also build into that, what do you want them to carry with them beyond their homeschool? 09:13.539 --> 09:19.661 [SPEAKER_00]: You want them maybe to carry on that self-discipline, that initiative, that tenacity and a whole list of other things as well. 09:20.742 --> 09:23.823 [SPEAKER_00]: So beyond again, the academics, what will they carry with them? 09:24.663 --> 09:28.805 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry to tell you that your kids will forget most of homeschool. 09:29.925 --> 09:34.287 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's just think about the fact that you don't remember most of your childhood, right? 09:34.347 --> 09:40.550 [SPEAKER_00]: There are some significant points in your childhood, but you don't remember the day in and day out. 09:40.650 --> 09:43.811 [SPEAKER_00]: And that's just the part of the way that God makes our brain work. 09:44.152 --> 09:46.713 [SPEAKER_00]: Imagine if we were remembered every single second. 09:47.293 --> 09:48.574 [SPEAKER_00]: from every single day. 09:49.255 --> 09:50.436 [SPEAKER_00]: Say you're 35 years old. 09:50.736 --> 09:53.999 [SPEAKER_00]: That's a lot to have to remember, plus everything that you have to remember today. 09:54.319 --> 10:00.564 [SPEAKER_00]: But there are a lot of very significant moments there could be day in and day out, mundane kind of things that you remember. 10:00.985 --> 10:04.708 [SPEAKER_00]: Photographs, I know that often triggers a lot of memories for us, but you don't remember. 10:05.308 --> 10:09.751 [SPEAKER_00]: a lot, probably from your childhood, and so I'm sorry to say that your kids aren't going to remember a lot. 10:09.811 --> 10:15.114 [SPEAKER_00]: However, this is not permission to be lazy and just say, it doesn't matter. 10:15.214 --> 10:18.656 [SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't matter if we don't really try to academically work hard. 10:18.676 --> 10:21.417 [SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't matter if I don't teach them to do chores. 10:21.437 --> 10:22.758 [SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't matter all these things. 10:23.278 --> 10:24.799 [SPEAKER_00]: It does actually matter. 10:24.859 --> 10:28.101 [SPEAKER_00]: Just because they don't remember it all, doesn't mean that it does not 10:28.361 --> 10:28.661 [SPEAKER_00]: matter. 10:28.721 --> 10:37.770 [SPEAKER_00]: So then my new details are often lost, but the overall feel of your homeschool, the overall feel of being in your family, of being in your home. 10:38.310 --> 10:40.252 [SPEAKER_00]: That is what they are going to remember. 10:41.273 --> 10:42.154 [SPEAKER_00]: So what matters? 10:43.235 --> 10:48.700 [SPEAKER_00]: In my opinion, it is their heart, their soul, their character. 10:49.801 --> 10:51.242 [SPEAKER_00]: That is what matters in the end. 10:52.443 --> 11:06.830 [SPEAKER_00]: I recently or a week or two ago did Instagram real and I was based it off of what my 21-year-old son said to me and he randomly said, Mom, once you're out of school, nobody cares that you are home-schooled. 11:07.510 --> 11:20.960 [SPEAKER_00]: And at first I was a little like, oh, kind of stung a little bit, like they don't like all those years I poured into you and that guy that's he's one that owns a business who's the new hire or a business partner should be doing. 11:20.980 --> 11:23.623 [SPEAKER_00]: They don't care that your mother poured all this time. 11:23.723 --> 11:24.683 [SPEAKER_00]: No, they don't care. 11:25.704 --> 11:28.446 [SPEAKER_00]: They care more about his knowledge of business. 11:28.486 --> 11:29.567 [SPEAKER_00]: They care more about his 11:31.048 --> 11:31.489 [SPEAKER_00]: character. 11:31.509 --> 11:40.354 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean the bank, they care more about his credit, they care more about whether he is reliable and making his payments and all those things. 11:41.115 --> 11:42.956 [SPEAKER_00]: They don't care that he was homeschooled. 11:43.276 --> 11:47.999 [SPEAKER_00]: When he's making new friends, it might be a fun fact that comes up. 11:48.460 --> 11:54.904 [SPEAKER_00]: But they're more so judging the man that is standing in front of them and deciding, is this a guy I want to be friends with or not? 11:56.195 --> 11:58.936 [SPEAKER_00]: And so it's done a little bit, and then I was like, no, no, no. 11:59.196 --> 12:00.676 [SPEAKER_00]: This actually really is the point. 12:01.256 --> 12:03.376 [SPEAKER_00]: Nobody cares where I went to school. 12:03.697 --> 12:07.457 [SPEAKER_00]: Do you care that even the degree that I got from college or the college I went to? 12:07.957 --> 12:16.579 [SPEAKER_00]: No, it might be a fun fact to throw out at a party, but that's not why you would necessarily hang out with me and you get out into the real world and it's not a big thing. 12:17.279 --> 12:19.780 [SPEAKER_00]: I just remember when we were home schooling, it was just, 12:20.700 --> 12:27.867 [SPEAKER_00]: It felt like an uphill battle at times to find sports teams or clubs or activities or to get resources and services or things for them. 12:28.167 --> 12:30.590 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, well, you're not in the school system, so you can't do that. 12:30.610 --> 12:31.671 [SPEAKER_00]: You can't participate in these sports. 12:31.731 --> 12:35.675 [SPEAKER_00]: It just felt like people were like, oh, you homeschool. 12:35.775 --> 12:39.098 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, they just kind of always were, but once they're gradually they're like, eh, nobody cares. 12:39.519 --> 12:43.422 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, okay, all that fighting, all that kind of stress inside. 12:44.203 --> 12:53.859 [SPEAKER_00]: So what I'm saying is in the end, their hearts, their soul, their character matters and you get to disciple them. 12:54.940 --> 13:00.044 [SPEAKER_00]: Now, from my family, what that looked like was giving them a biblical world view. 13:00.985 --> 13:03.667 [SPEAKER_00]: It was teaching and showing them the gospel. 13:04.528 --> 13:06.169 [SPEAKER_00]: It was building their character. 13:06.970 --> 13:11.473 [SPEAKER_00]: It was exposing and showing them how to live in the world as a Christian. 13:11.894 --> 13:15.697 [SPEAKER_00]: And this is done formally, and this can be done informally. 13:16.962 --> 13:18.982 [SPEAKER_00]: I think that both of those are really important. 13:19.242 --> 13:24.263 [SPEAKER_00]: And pretty sure I've done some episodes, related to this topic, if I have, I will put those in the show notes for you. 13:25.183 --> 13:27.104 [SPEAKER_00]: But the informal just happens in life. 13:27.484 --> 13:38.946 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe when you notice something, or maybe a scenario that you have gone through and you have a tween or teen, you can sit down and kind of explain to them why something is going on and what this actually looks like. 13:39.746 --> 13:45.667 [SPEAKER_00]: Little over two years ago, we left our church that we were at and our boys, then we're two years younger, 13:47.267 --> 13:55.131 [SPEAKER_00]: older teens, young men, and we talked through all of that, that decision, and the reasons why, and that process for them. 13:55.151 --> 14:06.958 [SPEAKER_00]: So they were able to anticipate, and we're like, you know what, although unpleasant at the time, my husband and I were like, this, someday they're going to be leading their own family, and they might find themselves in a similar situation, and they'll know. 14:08.059 --> 14:13.363 [SPEAKER_00]: When to say it's time to go and what that process looks like and they'll be able to lead their family through it. 14:13.383 --> 14:20.189 [SPEAKER_00]: So even those times that are hard for you, maybe not right in the moment, especially if your kids are young and it's things maybe not to share with them. 14:20.229 --> 14:30.418 [SPEAKER_00]: But as they do get older being able to share with them, how you have navigated the world in situations in, you know, in church and outside of church and, but just as a Christian. 14:30.458 --> 14:32.720 [SPEAKER_00]: But sharing the gospel, building their character. 14:32.800 --> 14:33.420 [SPEAKER_00]: And so the, 14:34.101 --> 14:39.065 [SPEAKER_00]: formal part can is what we would think of when we think of in homeschool, it's actually going to be getting a character book. 14:39.105 --> 14:48.673 [SPEAKER_00]: It is getting some type of biblical worldview book, which Elizabeth Urbanox, who is coming to the conference in next month, she has a great resources. 14:48.693 --> 14:52.416 [SPEAKER_00]: So you can go check her out at foundation worldview, but there's a lot of resources. 14:52.456 --> 14:52.877 [SPEAKER_00]: You can 14:53.618 --> 14:58.784 [SPEAKER_00]: In part, a biblical world view to your kids and teach them the gospel, but then don't forget that informal part. 14:58.824 --> 15:01.887 [SPEAKER_00]: We want to show our kids that our faith is not compartmentalized. 15:01.987 --> 15:09.076 [SPEAKER_00]: It is not just one part of reading our Bible and talking about it in school and then the rest of our life doesn't necessarily revolve around that. 15:09.476 --> 15:15.322 [SPEAKER_00]: show them what it is like to integrate and to live as a Christian in the world, to be in the world, but not of the world. 15:15.462 --> 15:23.570 [SPEAKER_00]: And I know that in a 15, 17, 18, whatever a minute episode, it's very easy just to say all this stuff, but this, it's a lot of work. 15:24.031 --> 15:24.972 [SPEAKER_00]: And but I promise you, 15:25.452 --> 15:26.113 [SPEAKER_00]: It is good work. 15:26.213 --> 15:27.754 [SPEAKER_00]: It is the best work that you're going to do. 15:27.834 --> 15:34.279 [SPEAKER_00]: Again, don't forget the academics were doing that as well, but it is the work that is going to carry on with them. 15:34.319 --> 15:38.463 [SPEAKER_00]: So I want to encourage you when you are saying at the end of homeschool with really matters. 15:38.583 --> 15:48.471 [SPEAKER_00]: I want you to ask what do I want them to carry with them from this time in our home as children as tweens as teens and then do that. 15:49.712 --> 15:51.613 [SPEAKER_00]: do those things that you think are important. 15:51.893 --> 15:54.833 [SPEAKER_00]: Still do the math and obviously hopefully that falls into it. 15:55.094 --> 16:02.856 [SPEAKER_00]: They're reading and they're writing, but if there's other things beyond that, dig deep into your family culture and say, what do we want them to carry through? 16:03.156 --> 16:07.777 [SPEAKER_00]: Like carry with them as they move on and do those things make those a priority. 16:08.217 --> 16:14.179 [SPEAKER_00]: And as you step into this homeschool year, maybe again, you are looking for a co-op. 16:14.199 --> 16:18.340 [SPEAKER_00]: You're looking for some different resources or maybe you're thinking to yourself, 16:18.600 --> 16:19.721 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe I could start something. 16:19.881 --> 16:20.941 [SPEAKER_00]: I've been thinking about that. 16:21.121 --> 16:23.763 [SPEAKER_00]: Once again, I want you to check out Vela.org. 16:23.843 --> 16:26.685 [SPEAKER_00]: It's VELA.ORG. 16:26.945 --> 16:31.127 [SPEAKER_00]: The link will be in the show notes for you, whether you are looking for a co-op. 16:31.507 --> 16:44.995 [SPEAKER_00]: You are looking for some type of hybrid or some type of maybe tutoring for your kids or you want to gather together with other home school families that are similar in values to you and seeking that same thing like what really matters. 16:45.615 --> 17:11.303 [SPEAKER_00]: What matters because what matters to you often matters to other people as well and so to get Connected with them or possibly to start your own program go ahead and check out Vela and see the amazing resources that they have for you And I just personally want to think Vela so much for sponsoring the conference and coming alongside us We are so excited for the conference and yeah Friend ask yourself now as you start this homeschool year at the end of homeschool when it's all done 17:12.020 --> 17:13.487 [SPEAKER_00]: what really matters. 17:14.311 --> 17:16.381 [SPEAKER_00]: Answer that question and then go and do it.