[SPEAKER_00]: Dino Ma!
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey everybody, it's time to show Paul Fontaine Jeff Hawkins here on the fight game media YouTube channel check it in just after Dynamite ends.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, hi everyone on the audio feed Jeff take it away
[SPEAKER_00]: Paul, you are one of my dearest friends, and I mean that sincerely, you're almost to a level of high-to-body friend for me.
[SPEAKER_00]: I hope you take my ribbing in good, good faith because sometimes I'm not exactly clear with such things.
[SPEAKER_00]: I am going to have a long deep dark journey of the soul tonight, Paul.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Paul Fontaine noted our latest story and wrestling pundit on the fight game media network and figure four.
[SPEAKER_00]: Have I overhiked this us break Kenny program?
[SPEAKER_00]: The level that I think it should be in my head.
[SPEAKER_00]: It does it just exist in my head because I have been a wrestling fan for 40 some odd years.
[SPEAKER_00]: Paul and I am watching with this match was pencil then.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm looking at it as a flair dusty starcade, a Hulk warrior, WrestleMania level, holy shit, I can't wait, a generational program that might change the entire branding of the company in some way.
[SPEAKER_00]: And might possibly catch a company on fire, so to speak, with a heated rivalry, such as this,
[SPEAKER_00]: Best wrestlers in the world.
[SPEAKER_01]: I, I was still not a couple weeks ago.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't understand this program at all Paul.
[SPEAKER_00]: I am.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so it's not just I am watching this.
[SPEAKER_00]: And please, if Tony Khan would like to reach out to me.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't mean this snarkly.
[SPEAKER_00]: I will I will be respectful.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know I say snarky things on Twitter.
[SPEAKER_00]: I get my reputation Do they want to burn money?
[SPEAKER_00]: Is that the point of this?
[SPEAKER_00]: Because at the end, I'm like, I'm like, okay, this six person match.
[SPEAKER_00]: They at least got that one right where Kenny Omega should be pinning the guy.
[SPEAKER_00]: That was good, and then we get a postman's beat down of the Callis family coming in to beat up the faces.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, back in my mind, I'm thinking, Will Ospery is gonna come out and help.
[SPEAKER_00]: We get, we get coping Christian and we get the memorial, oh, accidental superkick in the, in the, in the face of chaos, which will inevitably be meant to mean a personal thing when in no way it should great was not to mention Christian was acting like a heel right and then will us pray.
[SPEAKER_01]: Still angry over the revarket is kid and it wasn't even a all these mentioned was your kid That's it like it's not like you said your kids a brats or and you know No, you're gonna be to be here.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh after I bet you yeah, that's comes out minor comes up
[SPEAKER_00]: After the attempt to beat out of Kettie to be petty, it's out there to be petty.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's have the talk now, Kettie.
[SPEAKER_00]: These, these, the world's biggest asshole right now.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now then, and then, I'm going crazy, Paul, and Kettie becomes a bigger dick.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: After after cheers in the crowd, this, this wrestling is not hard, Paul.
[SPEAKER_00]: Go into like best wrestlers in the world.
[SPEAKER_00]: They are the alpha dogs in the yard.
[SPEAKER_00]: They just need to hype the fight.
[SPEAKER_00]: The big fight feel.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's all you need from this.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you know what I want now, Paul?
[SPEAKER_00]: I want MJF to be the champion.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, and he's probably not even going to win the gauntlet.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, let me ask you this, Jeff.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's, I don't think I'm a little insane right now.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's just say, let's, let's just say that you wanted to, to get it across on this show that, okay, going into Wembley Osprey's a clear baby face Omega's a clear heel, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: You figured that was what the goal was tonight.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, with with everything.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, all right, even though they don't need to it's okay, I agree with that, but that's their goal, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought that was a rhetorical question
[SPEAKER_01]: What was the point of that mean event where it's at mega and the bug mess in the baby faces after they did the Canadian mega interview where he was a heel and then he was going to be a heel after the match again.
[SPEAKER_01]: Why couldn't they have kicked off the show with the Omega off spray thing?
[SPEAKER_01]: had the main event be Osprey and Henari and Akira against the Doncals family, then done your post match angle after the main event and you could have still ended the show with Omega putting Osprey through the table if that's what you wanted to do and we could have eliminated that home main event which just seemed like
[SPEAKER_01]: Those the Omega in the box, they just wrestle the highlight map where they just we're gonna get all our spots in We're gonna be massive baby faces and then Kenny is gonna flip a switch and be cartoon heel and go My god
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm getting civil by way of kiddo mega aren't way we are going to be a face that when this is over we know it right they're going to shake hands when the match is over and wolf tickets I was just so yeah just funning with you.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think there was a plan
[SPEAKER_00]: reaction shot with the box looking at Kenny with that four-learn look that they just decided to get out of there because it's where we're the But anyway, I thought they left.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, they brought yes, they brought to the back with.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah with the time counts family and coping Christian who are mad at them
[SPEAKER_01]: Because my, I tell you this, I ended up figuring out how to set my overrun to go an extra half hour.
[SPEAKER_01]: So now it was an hour.
[SPEAKER_01]: But at 930, the, it stopped and then it stopped for about 30 seconds and then it came back.
[SPEAKER_01]: So when it came back, it was a mega in the ring with Osprey.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I missed, I missed the box crawling to the back.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, everybody everybody coping Christian took a powder and then the Dom Calus family followed and the books followed and they did a one I say I missed.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure everybody in Canada missed.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know sidewalks watching.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure unless he watched on my W But it like TSM's feed cut out for like 30 seconds maybe 15 seconds
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, and yeah, it's kind of like why run the Darby angle 15 and I got a theory on that and I actually liked that that might I liked it, but it was at the wrong time.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, show or on the wrong show.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I didn't even advertise it They had doing un-advertised interview with a major angle two minutes into the overrun.
[SPEAKER_01]: What is going on with this show?
[SPEAKER_00]: There are 11 days left until your biggest paper view of the year where all stories are supposed to come together.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah
[SPEAKER_00]: and it ain't coming together for me at least.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, but yeah, okay, the stop with the TSM thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I figured it was.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I didn't think anything to do with a W, but the problem is is it to stop and if I hadn't have set my DVR like let's say I decided let's say I didn't have a podcast to do and I would have watched this show tomorrow like I do with raw.
[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't have saw the end.
[SPEAKER_01]: like I just would have missed it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Paul, I will add other degrees of difficulty into this thing because how did this show start?
[SPEAKER_00]: It started with D level characters in AEW, the United Empire, with Will Osprey.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no, no, you know how it started?
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, it started with Excalibur saying, oh, yeah, keep them off the show with Kenny Omega, teaming with the Unbox.
[SPEAKER_01]: Which was the main event?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so they're not, they're true.
[SPEAKER_01]: Tony did not have this show formatted when it started.
[SPEAKER_00]: I am 100, I am, I am also with you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Somebody gave him the rundown and they changed the rundown.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then,
[SPEAKER_00]: 15 minutes later, we're in a one-on-one with Osprey and Kenny, we're Osprey saying, I don't need anyone, and also, oh, the weight of England is on my back, which probably could have been the entire time, or we just decided to shoehorn that thing in 11 days before the main event.
[SPEAKER_01]: I am broken, and we've also more or less dropped the whole deathriders thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, like, that was a casual mention, but well, that's the funny part of this is they got rid of the deathriders and scrappy, underdog heel, John Moxley, and tend to clear out
[SPEAKER_00]: the two alphas coming in and then they just added a bunch of characters in there.
[SPEAKER_00]: The Don Callos family united empire the young box we just it's a cast of thousands again that they have to clear out it's like a kid's wife if they're in for that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh because because Tony was reminded that New Japan was a thing after that G1 final.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's so here's oh by the way we mentioned that to cash does a loser.
[SPEAKER_00]: Even though we never mentioned he was a winner with the IWGB.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he finished six and three.
[SPEAKER_01]: They could have mentioned that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, yeah, fine.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, tiebreaker, but nevertheless, we've added cast of characters when every when this should be the one on one.
[SPEAKER_00]: whatever.
[SPEAKER_00]: And this is like if Game of Thrones was adding secondary houses in the next to last episode that where they're saying, oh, we forgot to explore this part of the Martell Lannister relationship.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's some third string houses that are fighting this war blah blah blah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And we need, I'm, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, Paul.
[SPEAKER_01]: I am.
[SPEAKER_00]: I am wrestling fan anymore.
[SPEAKER_01]: Am I?
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you know what?
[SPEAKER_01]: Normally I would say, but the matches were good.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, you know what?
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: That moxley white match is pretty good, but it was pretty good, but most of the everything else was that joke.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it wasn't bad, but it wasn't really up to dynamite standards, most of the other matches on the show.
[SPEAKER_00]: other podcasts is mostly dead.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm here.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm I'm I'm like I said I can't like you know I bitch about this over and and but and I talked about it a couple weeks ago.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're wise men and I have but I have like I have things that I got to do
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's hard, and so when I schedule this show for a specific time, based on the fact that dynamite is scheduled for a specific time, if Tony wants to do a two and a half hour show, freaking schedule for two and a half hours, and let me make adjustments to my life.
[SPEAKER_01]: But you keep saying it's two hours.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't want to hear, oh, Rose is the same.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's freaking not.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because I watch raw two days later, and I turn on Netflix,
[SPEAKER_01]: And when I skip the the the the re the recaps that they do and some of the video packages, I'm down to an hour and a half.
[SPEAKER_01]: Dynamite, you cannot watch dynamite an hour and a half, especially when you're taking notes and you're doing a podcast, but that, I mean, that's that's a me thing, but you know, like it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And if I was even when I watch collision and I don't take notes, collision is two hours and five minutes on the thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: It takes an hour and 40 minutes to watch it.
[SPEAKER_01]: you know, and that's with only a five minute over on.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'd imagine dynamite would take at least two hours to watch with if you're just skipping commercials.
[SPEAKER_01]: So anyways, I want to get into this show.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: They did a good job.
[SPEAKER_01]: They did a good crowd tonight.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was like 30.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, this Baltimore crowd was awesome because Baltimore is an awesome wrestling city.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they were they they had a few down points, but most of it was pretty good.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, they, they got bored at times and I can't blame them.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so, and it was Excalibur Taz and Tony on commentary tonight because they're on these coasts, so Taz could make it, and Nigel was wrestling.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, um, and they opened again, like I said, the Excalibur was running down the card and he was all over the place with this card.
[SPEAKER_01]: And, and, and, and said, flat out said, we're going to kick off this show with Kenny Omega, teaming with the young bucks as Osprey's music is playing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yes, that through me, I guarantee he's running down this show and Tony's in his ear, y'all.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, he changed this order.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, so they did, they changed your and again, I think it would have been better if they would have started with with this match or with the Kenny match, if they were going to be the Kenny match.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then you could have done the Osprey matches the main event after the sit down.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then I think that's it would have
[SPEAKER_00]: Coming before the Osprey sit down may no damsel.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, not at all.
[SPEAKER_01]: But then they said it was earlier tonight.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, just to yeah, and it was obviously early time.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it was earlier tonight.
[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll should have been mad as hell coming in match and he's all happy.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, he was all happy to be there and putting on a smiley face until Kenny had to walk out for his match.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and then two hours later, he decides he needs to be grumpy pants again.
[SPEAKER_00]: So this whole match was, I mean, uh, Naree.
[SPEAKER_01]: What's in his mind?
[SPEAKER_01]: The rest of the match.
[SPEAKER_01]: What's in his match?
[SPEAKER_01]: Paul.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Akira and Archer were in there for comedy spots where Akira is like half his size and was hitting him 100 times and then Archer would hit him once and knock him down.
[SPEAKER_01]: And by the way, if you watch New Japan as Tony assumes you do, these guys are heels.
[SPEAKER_01]: But here they were 100% baby faces.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what Paul I don't watch it and I didn't know that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, no, no, they're they're heels But here they were baby faces and Anyways, they they end up building to a hot tag from from Osprey near the end and he runs wild And Osprey hit a poison run a Romero hit him with a low blow
[SPEAKER_01]: He goes for Slice Bread, a carry hits in the assisted cutter, anari hit a flying headbutt on an archer, and all of that happened in a bit, and we're left with Osprey and Rocky in the ring.
[SPEAKER_01]: Rocky decides as a glorious idiot heel should to decide to celebrate absolutely nothing, and he slides into the corner and does it shimmy and he's all proud for what reason I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: and Osprey hit him with a blade runner and a hidden blade or should say, and pin them, and it was pretty funny.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then after the match, and this was the theme site.
[SPEAKER_01]: They did this a bunch.
[SPEAKER_01]: Osprey's just slapping hands with the fans, and he's taking his time, and he's going backwards, I don't know where there's an angle coming.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's nothing.
[SPEAKER_01]: They just wasted two minutes after the match for no reason.
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess they were running short on time.
[SPEAKER_01]: which they clearly made up by the end.
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, it was, I mean, the match was fine.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was, it was a collision opener.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know, it was not a dynamite quality match in my opinion.
[SPEAKER_00]: Can I be the guy to say that we'll ask for a show and have started this match that they should have just done the one hot tag To get will in there be the killer.
[SPEAKER_00]: Here's your next big star brand of AEW get the pin over over the best guy on the other team not rocky now he's rocky.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, what is the best guy on the other team?
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
[SPEAKER_01]: Then we got Renee with Akata in the back, and she asked him about the three way.
[SPEAKER_01]: Akata says nothing is more important than family, unlike Tequesta, who left the family because he was so selfish, but I'm confident, co-fletcher is too smart to make the same mistake.
[SPEAKER_01]: He knows what Akata says is true.
[SPEAKER_01]: The only thing that matters is the international title stays in the family.
[SPEAKER_01]: And if that means Kyle retains, I'll be happy.
[SPEAKER_01]: But, and the way he said it, that you could hear the crowd laughing, if it means I become the new international champion, I expect how to be happy for me, and he can raise my hand in the center of the ring.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a cute little promo.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was, I'm, let's, let's get to the other hand.
[SPEAKER_01]: So then, then we go to the ring.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we get another unannounced segment where Tony Shabun, and he brings in co-fletcher, and he's dressed in a nice pink suit, and he asks him about Ocadas comments.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Kyle says, Tony, we're in the midst of the greatest international title reign of all time.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't see any reason I have to end anytime soon.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I certainly don't think it'll end at Wemley Stadium.
[SPEAKER_01]: But O'Cottah did say that family means everything.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I do agree with that, actually.
[SPEAKER_01]: Don, Kyle says, done so much for me.
[SPEAKER_01]: I should point out by the way, Don, Kyle's was in here tonight.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I owe so much to him.
[SPEAKER_01]: And this is his plan and it's designed.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I trust him with all my heart.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I do.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm willing to go along with this plan, the fans are chatting fucked on cows and cow weights, let's do it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it says, but Ocata, you need to know your Ole Miss.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you are a man of honor and a man of your word and family is as important as you say it is, then you will have no problem having my back and make sure I retain the International Championship.
[SPEAKER_01]: And one more thing myself, and O'Cottock and I agree on is that we hate Kenosuke to Keshita.
[SPEAKER_01]: And to Keshita, I don't know where he is, still looking at his wounds after losing in the G1.
[SPEAKER_01]: Congratulations, by the way.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think you're the most narcissistic jerk I've ever met or had to interact with.
[SPEAKER_01]: and of course to catch the comes out comes out of the ring starts brawl with Kyle they get into it eventually to catch the gets the best of him hits the power drive and the rage and fire poses with him with the belt
[SPEAKER_01]: And it should be pointed out here that Ocada did not come down to help him and Tony Shivani says, I think I was actually pretty smart.
[SPEAKER_01]: That would should have been tatsas blind.
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, up and due to cash to got the upper hand here, I thought it was going to be, well, we took the build off at the cash before we went to the G1.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now we're just going to give it back to him.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think Ocada's money back.
[SPEAKER_00]: probably and then there's tension there.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean look Kyle Fletcher.
[SPEAKER_01]: I like both say both the interviews.
[SPEAKER_01]: I did too.
[SPEAKER_00]: I liked them.
[SPEAKER_00]: If we're gonna take the title off of Kyle Fletcher, I want him in that world title picture, so damn quick.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because the guy, this promo was great, where he's like, you know what?
[SPEAKER_00]: This is gonna be the greatest international title run of all time, and it did not done yet.
[SPEAKER_00]: He was fantastic.
[SPEAKER_01]: And let's be wanting to win it in which case I wouldn't want him in their right away because I think Osprey's gonna hold it for a bit.
[SPEAKER_01]: and maybe round, maybe double or nothing next year is when Fletcher might beat Osprey for it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, or even when the Owen and then Joe, I think we're going back to the Kevin night.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I have a theory on Kevin night and and you'll see if you agree with me, but we'll get to it when we get to it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I actually brought it up in the discord, so if people are in the discord, they probably already saw it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, all right.
[SPEAKER_01]: And uh, earlier today, this is when we got Kenny with, uh, and Will with Renee, and there is sitting in a dark room.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Renee starts it off by reminding about 2015 the first time they met in PWG.
[SPEAKER_01]: Osprey said he was a big fan.
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, he admired Kenny stuff in DDT and PWG, but he was just a skinny kid trying to make a name.
[SPEAKER_01]: Kenny says, you know, I've always been a guy that tried to keep my finger on the pulse, I tried to understand the flavors of the month and the internet, darlings and the crowd kind of oozing out at that.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Will's name turned up a lot.
[SPEAKER_01]: I wasn't blown away, but I could see the potential.
[SPEAKER_01]: So she reminds him seven years later, now we're in New Japan.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Will followed Kenny's path to New Japan after, you know, and this is after Kenny started a W and Kenny returned to New Japan to face in that Russell King
[SPEAKER_01]: And Kenny says, uh, at this point now, Will is a completely different athlete.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a face in New Japan.
[SPEAKER_01]: And everyone was saying he was there to fill my shoes.
[SPEAKER_01]: And people looked at it like he was the new face of New Japan, but wasn't really that wasn't will.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was not an necessity.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a Tokyo dominance.
[SPEAKER_01]: The biggest show of the year, they need to sell tickets.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they need to buy rates, but unfortunately for Will Osprey, he doesn't do that, but Kenny Omega does.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then Will says, well, when you're building a company off the broken back of Tonahashi and Naito and Akata, he says it's it's it's easier for you and he says, you know, you never worked under the restrictions that we did, our versions of COVID were quite different.
[SPEAKER_01]: You did three hour drives, I did 15 hour flights.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was stuck in hotels for two weeks.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was performing for people and our for no people in four silence.
[SPEAKER_01]: you couldn't yet ever handle that kind of fresher, but you were fine playing in a W with guys outside the rings that were marks for Kenny Omega, but for me it was difficult.
[SPEAKER_01]: We were all starving, we took pay cuts, but I and the United Empire had everyone on that roster were able to breed life in a new Japan, you could have never handled that situation.
[SPEAKER_01]: Kenny says, you know, you make it sound like your situation was so unique.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I took a three hour drive, but we and we didn't have fans in our arena either.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then, and then the auspices where he should brought him back a lot quicker than we did.
[SPEAKER_01]: And, uh, and then Kenny says, yeah, but even if you had fans in the building, would they have really been that loud for you?
[SPEAKER_01]: and really sensing the tension here.
[SPEAKER_01]: And by this point, you could hear the crowd just getting bored.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like they're talking to each other, not reacting to anything.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they should have shoved the crowd volume down.
[SPEAKER_01]: They may have because I don't remember hearing, but it was right here when I noted that the crowd was dead.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so now fast forward to 2023 a W forbidden door will now has joined up with the Don Cows family.
[SPEAKER_01]: Kenny says everyone knows my history when Dodd promised me gold and success.
[SPEAKER_01]: I got it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I saw it in a W. I got the WGP title, TNA title, AAA.
[SPEAKER_01]: I knew he had my best interest in mine, but I became a cautionary tale for guys like Will.
[SPEAKER_01]: We've been through similar situations and he didn't have to do it, but you just have
[SPEAKER_01]: And Will says, you know, you embarrassed me, you tore apart my life in New Japan.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was 80% about you and 20% about me.
[SPEAKER_01]: I still scars in my head from you DDTing me on the table.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Kenny says, well, how is that any different from you disrespecting me in my home country?
[SPEAKER_01]: Did I use Don Cales and I match in the Tokyo dome?
[SPEAKER_01]: No, but you use him at forbidden door.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then Wilson's you know that keeps me up at night.
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you realize that?
[SPEAKER_01]: I still think about that night I climb that mountain but all anyone online is saying that it was Don Talis so my victory meant nothing And Katie says yeah, it was tainted will and here's the best part hearing you say that right now allows me to tell you
[SPEAKER_01]: I forgive you.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't hold it against you, you saying you couldn't have done it myself as music to my ears.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because really, I beat you twice already, this isn't a rubber match, this is you searching for any way to get to being on my level.
[SPEAKER_01]: Then Renee says, you both had life-threatening injuries.
[SPEAKER_01]: Can he still listen, I'm sick and tired of talking about diverticulitis and the crowd was, yeah, I actually heard them again here because they were kind of like kind of cackling, but he says, yeah, I can't move the way I used to, I can't even eat the way I used to, but I'm a better wrestler and a better person, you know why?
[SPEAKER_01]: Because I'm not using my mind and using my body.
[SPEAKER_01]: But what about you Will?
[SPEAKER_01]: Are you a better wrestler now?
[SPEAKER_01]: Are you 100% comfortable knowing that you have a repair disc?
[SPEAKER_01]: Actually, three repair discs in your neck.
[SPEAKER_01]: You feel confident challenging me.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's arguably at the best in the top of my game more than I've ever been.
[SPEAKER_01]: You got quite the confidence and chip on your shoulder.
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't you?
[SPEAKER_01]: And then we'll say, yeah, well, knowing how much my words cut you deep when I said you gave up on yourself when I gas you up and said you're in my hero and the next paper you I gas you up again and told you not to give up that we're not to give up on that world title.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then the moment I tell you, you've given up on yourself, you get the energy to go up and get that world title because I cut your ego.
[SPEAKER_01]: You've never seen me as your equal and you've always seen me as underneath you.
[SPEAKER_01]: and it can't he says, is that me and with the ego are you with the ego?
[SPEAKER_01]: When you think about it, is that what you really wanted or did you want to know how much I was struggling and how much pain I deal with in every single day of my life?
[SPEAKER_01]: You want to mean a weak and state because getting me beat was easier than beating MJF, wasn't it?
[SPEAKER_01]: And then can it will says no, I want you to your best and your most ruthless if I can't beat you at your best.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't deserve this.
[SPEAKER_01]: So at Wemley Stadium in front of my wife, my parents and my kid.
[SPEAKER_01]: Where no Englishman is ever won the world title on their own soul.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that pressure is pressure.
[SPEAKER_01]: I put on myself every time I get put in that pressure.
[SPEAKER_01]: Crooker.
[SPEAKER_01]: I.
[SPEAKER_01]: I crumble, but now I got to do this away from the Don Carlos family and away from the deathwriters and I know I can do it.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's been a 10 year chase trying to be as good as you.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to do it with honor and pride and I'll do it when it matters the most.
[SPEAKER_01]: Then Kenny says, yeah, well, what happened in 2023, you failed, except this time you're going to do it in front of your countrymen and your friends and your family, and you're going to fall on your face.
[SPEAKER_01]: And now with your mother at home and then we'll get something to say, don't you talk about my mother, Kenny, Kenny, come on now.
[SPEAKER_01]: All I'm saying is there's a lot riding on this, not just for me, but for you too, when loser draw, I'm still going to respect you.
[SPEAKER_01]: You bring the magic out of me, even if you lose, your mum will still be proud of you.
[SPEAKER_01]: But what I worry most about is that boy of yours, he may want a new hero after I beat you, and then will lose his it and then they cut.
[SPEAKER_00]: Paul, that was magnificent.
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you, but fuck this segment, I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_00]: Alistair Black thinks that's too much lore for an angle.
[SPEAKER_00]: What yeah, she are our token tastes as too much lore for an angle.
[SPEAKER_00]: We had, we, how many weeks has this effing program been going Paul?
[SPEAKER_00]: Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[SPEAKER_00]: this inner this sit down what oh oh and I want you at your best and most ruthless well well you got a chance for you're a real boy now congratulations Pinocchio you got your wish yeah
[SPEAKER_01]: But no, you know that they idea you just had like they could have they could have taped this ahead of time and got the footage and done We straight weeks next week.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to see part two of this 2022 forbidden door and look forward to it Now we got three segments across three separate shows that we're looking for to and if the first segment was really good Now we're going to be super hyped for that next segment and then we're going to be super hyped for that third segment And then you know what that in ring that you did four weeks ago do that on the go home
[SPEAKER_00]: Bingo, you know what that tape a ball, you know what that takes?
[SPEAKER_01]: That takes time for the rest and that takes time away from the wrestling.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, yeah, we don't want that Four-way for the TBS title.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, no, we needed that because you have to have women on the show But we 100% didn't need that six-person match at the end of the show.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, we didn't.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
[SPEAKER_01]: for all in no no no that no my is not that this was all in for my that they're not they're not doing a batch of all in there's no all in that's coming Joe I have I have expected my idea lose the title here and then it's like the women's casino battle royale whatever the after I'm all right if anything she'll be defending on the pre show but I don't even think that maybe she'll defend against like I'll add on or something
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, okay, and speaking of which next up was the four-way, uh, Hakaro Shida, Persephone, Chris that lender of my world to the TBS title, uh, crowd wasn't super into it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, we finally got a myoworld promo.
[SPEAKER_01]: We did, yeah, during the intro's right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, because I was, uh, as, uh, you're on the board today about, you know, oh, it's been hit miss.
[SPEAKER_00]: I go tell me the hits.
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you remember what she said because I skipped it?
[SPEAKER_00]: I-I-I'm-I'm so proud of winning this title.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's all she said.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, fine.
[SPEAKER_00]: But-but-but-but-but-but no.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what they should have been doing this entire time.
[SPEAKER_00]: To see what they had with her, give her some personality.
[SPEAKER_00]: But you know what they did, Paul, because I looked this up.
[SPEAKER_00]: They-three days after winning this title, a 10-minute struggle session with Persephone, and then tag matches setting up multi-women.
[SPEAKER_00]: No promos, no personality building, no seeing if we have a star just telling her here's your constellation price because we got too much heat for just giving you the possibly given you the ring of honor title.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, which they're not doing that either now, but they're not going to do either.
[SPEAKER_01]: And she does facing her or I think it's facing Hazuki on the R which she'll build just but yeah, so early the crowd wasn't into it, but after the break, they kind of got into it.
[SPEAKER_01]: They did this spot where a bunch of people were hitting spears and that kind of woke everyone up.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they, uh, to so Persephone and she'd are we're in there together.
[SPEAKER_01]: Shida, or Maya snuck in, rolled Persephone up twice, Persephone kicked out, Maya ran into a knee strike by Shida, then Shida and Persephone were kind of like deciding whether their friends are not, but then Shida, I poked her.
[SPEAKER_01]: She went for a razor's edge, but Stattlander showed up, took her off the back, and then hit a power bomb of her own.
[SPEAKER_01]: Then she hit a super kick on Persephone and a
[SPEAKER_01]: Maya broke it up and might have been a little late.
[SPEAKER_01]: The crowd didn't really react to that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Then Maya and Stattliner was alone in the ring.
[SPEAKER_01]: Stattliner hit a power bomb.
[SPEAKER_01]: Then she went for Wenzenite fever, but Maya's stactor and got the pin.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then again, they did the thing where they were like, you know, in the ring and celebrating and stepping hands.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what, you know what I'm waiting for?
[SPEAKER_00]: And wait for tech, let it come out.
[SPEAKER_01]: Something, something and nothing, nothing.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, just they ended up going to the back.
[SPEAKER_01]: So.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then they, yeah, so that, I mean, the match was fine.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, I like Maya, I just, if you're going to give, you have three women's titles in this company and you're just giving it to them and you've given her this belt.
[SPEAKER_00]: How is she supposed to get over without doing promos and I think the answer is well, we gave her a ten minute match three days after she won the title.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, that's not how you get over with a crowd.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's that's that's a wrestling match.
[SPEAKER_00]: But that language, they should be hearing, oh, you know, what after my brother, I mean, yeah, they're saying it on commentary, let her say it, let her say what it means to her in this year that us sucked, where her brother died, play on those emotions, use it, make some money with this.
[SPEAKER_00]: But God, I thought Chris, that land, it was going to win the title here and then it would move lead to something at all and Jason pointed out that she had a look like she might
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what we need is another Chris Stattlander heel run.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, she's trying to catch up to Paul wait.
[SPEAKER_00]: So there we go.
[SPEAKER_00]: He does just really put that in there right before you got that line out.
[SPEAKER_01]: Then we got a quick promo with the birds where they just rambled off a bunch of gibberish and British and I closed it off by saying they wanted to punch them in the face.
[SPEAKER_01]: They showed a highlights of collision where it's so funny because they're talking about it like they were the ones that were getting the better of them.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, highlights.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then she says, ladies, we love it.
[SPEAKER_01]: No matter what you do, the receipts will always be harder.
[SPEAKER_01]: And all the prints.
[SPEAKER_00]: And Monti Python.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: All the prints are going to be screaming for us to take your bloody heads off.
[SPEAKER_01]: They had a few things that were bleeped.
[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, it was fine.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was, it was a good promo, but it was a little quick and I didn't even make out half of what they were saying I caught more like I missed more of this than I missed of the Osprey will thing like I just couldn't keep up with them they were talking really fast and and really British so yeah, I think I'm just saying hey we're British but I like I like the the build for this I think it's been really good so it's been okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: I just it's one of those things where it's kind of like I want to
[SPEAKER_00]: I want a little bit more talking from the baby faces to be honest with you.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean the heels are very good promos to be honest with you.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, but they're good ass kickers.
[SPEAKER_01]: So yes, then we got John Mox and J.
[SPEAKER_01]: White in a sea cup match and the really want that to get over.
[SPEAKER_00]: I love you.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Fernando likes it.
[SPEAKER_01]: He pointed out yesterday.
[SPEAKER_01]: Pines and tits are something they said in the promo.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so anyways, this match was long, um, it went through two commercial breaks.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and, uh, crowd was, you know, in and out, but by the end, they were pretty into it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, Excalibur for some reason pointed out that the Bang Bang gang aren't here tonight, uh, but the death writers are even though like nobody's allowed to interfere.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm not even sure what the point of mentioning that was, um, I guess it was because of what they did in the post match, probably that that's probably why he mentioned it.
[SPEAKER_01]: But anyways, they, um,
[SPEAKER_01]: The story of this match was basically J.
[SPEAKER_01]: White.
[SPEAKER_01]: J. Moxie was going to give him as much as he could.
[SPEAKER_01]: J.
[SPEAKER_01]: White hit his cutthroat soup flex.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think like five times.
[SPEAKER_01]: He kept trying to hit a blade runner.
[SPEAKER_01]: Eventually at the end, he did hit the blade runner, but Moxie rolled out of the ring.
[SPEAKER_01]: Then White followed him.
[SPEAKER_01]: Then he tossed him back in the ring and covered him.
[SPEAKER_01]: Then Mox escaped with a gate of roll and he hit another choke.
[SPEAKER_01]: Then he transitioned to a bulldoch choke.
[SPEAKER_01]: Moxie was fighting for the, or white was fighting for ropes, and Moxie hit a death rider, white kicked out, then Mox, sunk in a rear naked choke, and white was trying to get out of it, but eventually he passed out, and, and that was that.
[SPEAKER_01]: So he, he didn't tap, he passed out, and he got a lot of near falls on, on Moxie, and, yeah, and then at the, after the match, Moxie, it looked like they were going to do the
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, because last week he was a baby face and this week he's a heal again and he's overcoming the odds in his own tournament to make it to Wembley.
[SPEAKER_00]: with people that he's connected to in some way.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm, I'm, I'm baffled by this booking and how they treat moxley and the crowd doesn't know whether to cheer boo because they're cheering him when they should be booing him and they're booing him when they should be cheering him.
[SPEAKER_00]: It, it was a decent match, but the storytelling stinks in this, why, why are we booing?
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, we got ready in the will story, so we're going to make you the hero of your own tournament.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what's funny, Jeff is when this when the matches were announced.
[SPEAKER_01]: I picked every single winner of the first round.
[SPEAKER_01]: I picked what the matches would be in the second round and the semi-finals and the finals.
[SPEAKER_01]: So far, the only thing I got wrong was that I thought Finley was gonna beat Jay White and then lose to Mox.
[SPEAKER_01]: But instead it was Mox, it was White that beat Jay Finley and lost to Mox.
[SPEAKER_01]: I picked all three of the second round matches that I picked Tetris Saran Nigel with Nigel O'Winn.
[SPEAKER_01]: I picked Orange Cassian Kyla Raleigh with Kyla Raleigh to win and I picked what's the other match we're getting.
[SPEAKER_01]: Eddie Kingston.
[SPEAKER_01]: Eddie Kingston Claudio and I believe I picked Eddie to win.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then the next round would be Moxley and Eddie and Nigel and Orange Cassidy and Nigel a bit orange and Moxley will be Eddie and then we'll get Moxley and Nigel in the finals and Moxley will keep his title.
[SPEAKER_00]: We had just reestablished Moxley as a year with Will.
[SPEAKER_00]: This tournament should be...did we?
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we did a few weeks ago.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not I guess maybe he was going to put a chair on his neck.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, yeah, but he's a heel again tonight because he he just sat there and But that but your but but point is this tournament should be his version of of the 1995 movie the quick and the dead Where he's playing the Gene Hackman character and he's inviting all his enemies into a tournament
[SPEAKER_00]: So that eventually he can it's so that he can face them all if he needs to I'm I'm baffled by this story telling right now because it's gritty goody under touch on moxley with people we had a history with I'm more or less yeah all right what did bully Ray say about moxley I'll bite on this oh no I mentioned it last week I think it basically just said it the Tony con just letting him do his wrestler fantasy camp
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, and that's fine.
[SPEAKER_00]: And if it, and if Nigel's the final match, that would be, I mean, that's what I call at the beginning, and Foxy and Nigel is actually a match I kind of want to see.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a less, it's the less thatcher HWA connection.
[SPEAKER_01]: They haven't been and Foxy and Nigel share, like, they, they have a long history, even though they haven't really wrestling each other much, but they, yeah, they're, no, they wrestle each other.
[SPEAKER_00]: I looked this up.
[SPEAKER_00]: They look, I, they, the last kind of wrestle each other.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think like 20 years ago in HWA,
[SPEAKER_01]: they had the same to start it together in the same class, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if that's true, but they may, but look, this is a perfect, and this is also a perfect Nick Aldous style, and they're actually doing a good story with Nigel.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, Nigel gets the basis in Wembley.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's my question.
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, yeah, it's a different song than Nick.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so yeah, and then so after the match, uh, they tease the handshake thing and then moxie just walked away and, and allowed Jay White to get beat on by the dogs.
[SPEAKER_01]: And, uh, it was conners and, and, um,
[SPEAKER_01]: the other one.
[SPEAKER_01]: Finally, and then Gabe Kidd showed up as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's, uh, or sorry, uh, Orange casting Kylo Roddy made the save, then Gabe Kidd showed up, took out Orange Cassidy, then Roger Strong came up, and, uh, I wrote down at this point, foolish me.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, looks like they're setting up a buy-in match, uh, you know, between the conglomeration and the dogs.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think they're adding the conglomeration and the dogs and lethal twists.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think they're having like a six-way trio's title.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, and swirf and whoever he was in because they set that up too.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I mean, they missed a layup on that swirf segment, but we'll get to it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it's probably a gauntlet match of some kind.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I saw Moxley's full entrance calling.
[SPEAKER_01]: okay so uh... so then uh... hangman and brodian and uh... bandito show up and hangman gets a mic and he says night's boots dumbass i'm not even sure he was talking to gave kid maybe uh... and then ricochet interrupts and and him and the demand and the lethal twist around the stage and he's like wait wait wait wait wait just a second hold your horses crowd chanting ball and he says okay now i'm ready finish what you're about to say i don't even know what the point that was
[SPEAKER_01]: Then Hangman says, okay, we are the trio's champions and you can shut your ass up.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's no way in hell that we're going to miss Wembley There's no way we're going to miss Wembley So if any of you out here fighting tonight or any of you who took a break from waxing your partners bald head long enough to come out here and watch If there's anyone in the fans chanting bald at ricochet We want to shot at these champions and meet us under the Wembley arch at dusk because your champions will be waiting So I don't know what's
[SPEAKER_01]: I think this is this is the equivalent of the under the giant memorial battle royal when they used to have it on yeah, we are they can do like a match like are they going to pre tape it at like at dusk Like why why is dusk is that it the beginning of the day or the end of the day end of the day
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so they could, oh, and well, this show starts at like six o'clock England time.
[SPEAKER_01]: So they could tape it early and and maybe it's going to be outside.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what's going on.
[SPEAKER_01]: I or maybe the Wembley arched desk was just a metaphor.
[SPEAKER_01]: It is.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it's, it's a, it's a big, you know, it's a gunfight thing as opposed to the afternoon or something probably.
[SPEAKER_01]: God, did you see John Ox, John Ox is full entrance on TV?
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: Colin J was without the ring.
[SPEAKER_01]: Awesome.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I skipped the entrance.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but Jeff thought.
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, and then Renee, we back saw it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Renee was backstage with my world congratulated on her retaining.
[SPEAKER_01]: She says I feel great, but I'm not done yet.
[SPEAKER_01]: No one thought I'd win this.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I just beat three of the best women in A. W. And she gets interrupted by Willow, Night and Gayle, of all people who can graduate later, said she's beautiful.
[SPEAKER_01]: And she said, but you know what, I'm a woman of my world.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I told you if I beat you for this title, you'd get the first shot.
[SPEAKER_01]: So what do you say we do this on Saturday?
[SPEAKER_01]: and then she's nods and says okay and she's but you know tonight I got business to address with Mercedes and my says hold on could be me facing Mercedes at Wemley he got some bad news for you Maya ain't gonna be you and that was that like what did they do that why did I don't even know like I don't know what the point of this match is like I mean they'll have a nice competitive match Mercedes will probably interrupt it maybe they'll do a screw job you know
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, what if they add Maya to the match so that she can take the pin?
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, please don't, please don't.
[SPEAKER_01]: Then we got a segment right out of Jeff Hawkins playbook.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's John Cruz in the ring.
[SPEAKER_00]: I believe last week or two weeks ago, I suggested this.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think you did with John Cruz.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I'm here for this.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so he's home on AEW right here.
[SPEAKER_01]: He cuts a promo and it's funny because Tony Shabani says, uh, I don't like Jonathan Cruz and then Tassets.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a good guy and Tony's Cruz.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, he's not.
[SPEAKER_01]: and then she says, okay, so I wrote a promo down here, basically, I'm going to telling, uh, I want to draw a how much mgf hates him.
[SPEAKER_01]: So he pulls out this scroll and he says
[SPEAKER_01]: And then he says, you know what?
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll just say the third one in English.
[SPEAKER_01]: Andrody, you're never gonna be the real world champion.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, by the way, I got one more thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Andrody, he's not a real Latino man.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's be honest, between the both of us, I'm way more Latino, way more of a man.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm way more gullapo.
[SPEAKER_01]: If he was here in Baltimore, I would challenge him to a match.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'd kick his culo and he's not here and that's another reason why MJF is better than you.
[SPEAKER_01]: Andrody, come on man, I know.
[SPEAKER_01]: puts them like down in the leaves on your fantastic flake promo.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then on Johnny's music hits and a fantastic flake reaction.
[SPEAKER_00]: I love Jonathan Cruz to death.
[SPEAKER_00]: I want action figures.
[SPEAKER_00]: I want him to push him to the moon.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm here for this.
[SPEAKER_00]: Although I love also just for his level of character not necessarily everybody else is the I know you're not here tonight.
[SPEAKER_00]: Did these people ever check?
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, he wasn't.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, I'm draw day wise.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Do they?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So Justin Roberts does the surprise ring entrance, which is longer than the match, because I'm draw day hit him with the Dwelle Smortos or whatever that's called.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the DM and he got the win was just quick, nothing.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then he grabs a mic, he said a bunch of stuff in Spanish, the fans'
[SPEAKER_01]: Now it's just we're talking over him and then he says I'm a bigger cabron and he got some stuff bleeped says mgf get out here right now and uh come on come on and wait for you mgf music hits the crowd pops huge but then they're waiting and they're waiting and they're waiting
[SPEAKER_01]: And I pointed out the camera pan, you know, looking for MJF, I guess.
[SPEAKER_01]: And cruise, it's just, he's a corpse in the ring.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was, I was hoping they'd come back from commercial and you'd still be in the ring.
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, but then the video played, and MJF is in a pool.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he says, great match, great win, real proud of you.
[SPEAKER_01]: You thought it was there?
[SPEAKER_01]: In that venue in front of those pores and shit ass Baltimore?
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm in the most magical place in the world.
[SPEAKER_01]: Long Island, soaking up the sun.
[SPEAKER_01]: Unlike you, the Latino man, whatever you are, I'm the big Hebrew.
[SPEAKER_01]: I got big influence.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I asked the travel team, does a draw to have a fight to crappy ass Baltimore?
[SPEAKER_01]: And they said, yes, where your world's deputy does.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I asked out, and I'm here soaking up the Long Island Sun.
[SPEAKER_01]: But next time you see me Andrew, you'll be looking at the lights at Wemley Stadium, because you decided to mess with the one true champion.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's just trying to get that OTC thing over.
[SPEAKER_01]: And on Drawdy's fresh shade puts a mic down.
[SPEAKER_01]: Rips open cruises jacket gives them another DM and then says how you know, and that was that it was great segment overall.
[SPEAKER_00]: Great segment the one negative on it was at the production team had to restart the the pre tape because they jumped it over the over the house mic, but look this is exactly what it need to be.
[SPEAKER_00]: possible exception of a guy calling himself the real world champion in the midst of the largest feud in company history.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I think the reason he's doing that is so that when people Google OTC, they might get MJF and set of Roman Reigns.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's fine too.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I, I, I, I, I, yeah, um, so, uh, to do, to do, to do, then we get Renee in the back, and this is, I guess, the Renee Willow thing they'd promise.
[SPEAKER_01]: She said, they said it was going to be a sit down.
[SPEAKER_01]: They like, um, it was Willow, Mercedes and Willow on a split screen.
[SPEAKER_01]: And, uh, she asked Mercedes about attacking Willow last week and Mercedes.
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't beat her good enough because she's still smiling and Willow says you could never take my smile Mercedes.
[SPEAKER_01]: You got a lot to say you dumb bitch.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll finally end you with all in and then Willow says, you know why I'm smiling?
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not because I got your number.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's because I got them.
[SPEAKER_01]: She's pointing at the fans and you hate that.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know why they hate you?
[SPEAKER_01]: You have the entrance, the clothes, the catchphrase, the hair, and Mercedes playing with her hair as she's saying this.
[SPEAKER_01]: So as you were exactly what a star should be.
[SPEAKER_01]: And me, I'm just Willow.
[SPEAKER_01]: Whether they love me or they don't love me, they know me, they've watched me win, they've watched me lose, they watch me embarrass myself, but they watch me win this.
[SPEAKER_01]: And no amount of star power can win that connection with the audience or win these championships.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you know what, I like my chances at all in.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then Mercedes, that's who these people love is you.
[SPEAKER_01]: The person who smiled at me when I got hurt in New Japan, when I came to A, W, you smiled at me.
[SPEAKER_01]: You took away my TBS championship.
[SPEAKER_01]: You smiled in my face.
[SPEAKER_01]: You threw a cake in my face with your stupid friends.
[SPEAKER_01]: Everyone loves the bully willow.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, keep smiling willow because you only got 11 days left.
[SPEAKER_01]: You dumb bitch.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll take that smile once and for all.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then Willow says, I've had enough of this.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Mercedes, I have two, and they take out their head pieces and they go looking for each other.
[SPEAKER_01]: They end up finding each other, except it's in dark.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then they go in, they crawl into the crowd, and they're in the dark again, eventually they make their way to the, uh, uh, the ring side.
[SPEAKER_01]: And, uh, the refs show up to break it up, pat bucks out there, more security, Mercedes, and is fighting off this security guards, and Willow is too, they is actually really good brawl.
[SPEAKER_01]: They keep, you know, separating them, they're back, then they're separating them, they're back.
[SPEAKER_01]: uh, eventually security man, it's just a carrier away and the audio cut out, Mercedes sound like she said fuck you willow and she was also having a trouble keeping her top on.
[SPEAKER_01]: And uh, it was a hell of a heated segment, uh, I like this a million times better than I like the Kenny Osprey thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And, uh, far beyond for me to say that, uh,
[SPEAKER_01]: Mercedes keep on saying dumb bitch because Teclo wasn't in the building with stupid bitches and so it's like I'm going to steal this Reminds me of when Naila Rose and Brick Baker I think it was would I'm or no now the rosin and Jade was on that bitch and and Naila Rose would would say she's you know calling people bitches They would yeah, but no, but no, this was
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, it doesn't have to do much, but what she doesn't do is great too.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just like, hey, people like me, and they just dry and Mercedes is the perfect foil for that.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Mercedes sells it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, and Mercedes sells the fact that people like Willow, like, yeah, like it's great.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's great.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's one of those things where I almost wish they hadn't had the Maya segment because of that.
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, well, yeah, that seemed a little overkill.
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: uh... then uh... so then we get nanoback stage and he says did we hear you correctly my friend and then the camera pauses or pans out swers there and then swers says did i really hear you say anyone for those trees titles did you just call him nanah yeah okay isn't it nanah whatever like so uh... and then uh... swers says for those don't say it if you don't mean it and then nanah
[SPEAKER_01]: gets the last word in.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he says, who's how?
[SPEAKER_01]: And I just wanted him to say, who?
[SPEAKER_01]: Who?
[SPEAKER_01]: Why didn't he say that?
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a freaking layup, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Unless it's not going to be the new day, but if it's going to be the new day, who?
[SPEAKER_01]: Who?
[SPEAKER_01]: That's it.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's all you need to say.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's more effective than putting them on the poster.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, if all you have to say was who?
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what that that would be good to I my suggestion would be from the song feeling good.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a new dawn It is a new day.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I'm feeling good.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, interesting that because he always does lame.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, not it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, not it could have said that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a new dawn.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a new day and I'm for you.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I might get in trouble if I say that boss.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, walk away
[SPEAKER_00]: Hmm, something like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, but but the who who I mean that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it wrote itself.
[SPEAKER_00]: I will think they scripted it and he he's fucked up, but you know, no, I think they love still kind of trying to toast that line with with sort of that, oh, here's a baby face pop for him.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, what the after you're doing here, you're undermining his entire vibe, dude.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Then we got Nigel McGinnison, head to Sarah, and so they told us, yeah, what did you say?
[SPEAKER_00]: So I love this map.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was good.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was short, but it was good.
[SPEAKER_01]: Nigel, they told the story that Nigel got hurt during his match with Shabbata on collision.
[SPEAKER_01]: Funny thing is if you watch the match, Shabbata is the one who looked like he got hurt.
[SPEAKER_01]: But, and they, I mean, they had a good match too, but they were also on different pages that different times.
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, so the story this match was basically had to Sarah working over his injured leg.
[SPEAKER_01]: They mostly wrestled in the ring, you know, hardly any high spots, just a ground-based match.
[SPEAKER_01]: They went through a break.
[SPEAKER_01]: Nigel was, you know, getting beat up the whole match.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then he ended up getting a, a chance to reinhead scissors and choke, not choke, touch a Sarah out.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I really, like there wasn't much more to the match than that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like it was a uncharacterized, uncharacteristically short.
[SPEAKER_00]: uh... you know it important match in a w but the right guy one and uh... they told the real good story yeah and it's a serious great i mean again he is possibly one of my favorites in a w but let me give some props to Nigel and the a w team here for working the sheets on this injury thing i don't think he's hurt i don't either yeah
[SPEAKER_00]: but they're trying to make it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, they're doing a great job.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, that's what I mean.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're doing a great job of trying to fool a lot of people and it's, it'd be a great story.
[SPEAKER_00]: If we weren't telling the gritty underdog story of John Moxley in this tournament, but yes, I'm liking this through line.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that'll be like, you know, if Moxley ends up winning, it's going to be Nigel gave everything he had and he just couldn't do it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, and John Moxley will be the bully heel in that match working on the Nigel injury, which absolutely blows by about $25,000 in Wembley-Centin fuck you Moxley, and yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, cause they they want to have a problem with that and then and then he'll dedicate his win to the fans, and it'll be so great.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Nigel needed help leaving the ring.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's limping.
[SPEAKER_01]: He asked for help, which is milk that milk.
[SPEAKER_00]: Milk it milk it.
[SPEAKER_01]: So then we get a video package for Darby Allen and Kevin Knight.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, I'm looking at the clock and I'm like, what?
[SPEAKER_01]: And then like it's like, okay, we got a quick video package.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, you ought to promote this match.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's fine.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's get to the main event.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we're already going to be 20 minutes over, but whatever.
[SPEAKER_01]: and the video package was pretty good and you know Darby's voice in it over and they I wrote down they showed highlights of Steve Warden for some reason and that reason would become more apparent in the Darby at the end of the promo vowed not to sneak attack him because he wants the best Kevin Knight says he'll beat him at Wembley with an inch of his life and teach him a lesson.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then Tony Shivani is in the ring, and I look at the clock.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's freaking 902.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, what the fuck is going on?
[SPEAKER_01]: And he brings out Kevin Knight, and I'm like, oh my God, we're in an overrun.
[SPEAKER_01]: We still have a main event to go, and Kevin Knight has a live mic.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hmm?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, Tony Shivani doesn't even get a question out, and Kevin Knight says, enough of that Tony, you're making me uncomfortable with all these questions.
[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't have to have a damn thing yet.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then he says, tonight, I got the answers or says, no, sorry, get out of the jets ring.
[SPEAKER_01]: He says, everybody for the past few months has been questioning the jet.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, tonight, I got the answers, but especially for Darby Allen.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's got his old outdated version of who the jet is.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not a young boy.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a grown ass man.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm the greatest teen tea champion of all time.
[SPEAKER_01]: So Darby Allen, bring your ass out here and let's talk face to face.
[SPEAKER_01]: Darby's music hits, Kevin Knights says, security security check that guy for weapons.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't trust him.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's probably got like a pipe bomb or something in his coat, you know, check them.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Darby opened up his jacket.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it fans just got nothing, fans are trying for Darby.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then Kevin I get upset he says when the jets talk and you show some respect to your TNT champion now look The city of Baltimore isn't even worthy of seeing my face tonight.
[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't even got my family with me You got no weapons on you.
[SPEAKER_01]: So come on.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's make your way down here and Darby just stands there and because he's waiting and the pyro blew up in his face and he rolled down the ramp
[SPEAKER_01]: Excalibur says I did that was a lucky mouth function of the dog cows families up to something Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_01]: You crack that code And good job in cycling PDF around you really solve this case.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Kevin night attacked him with the belt brings him to the ring puts him upside down in the corner set up a chair against his head hits the coast coast dropkick, which the cool kids used to call the man terminator Got some good heat
[SPEAKER_01]: Kevin escaped the ring, uh, and uh, to the doctor and Tony Shivani are checking on Derby, they bring out a stretcher and a neck brace.
[SPEAKER_01]: Steve Ford and shows up and he's checking on Derby, and I wrote down Angle Alert, and Derby is like in pain and he's, and this didn't get bleed for some reason.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, oh, fuck, oh, shit.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's
[SPEAKER_01]: And they took a long time to get him out of here.
[SPEAKER_01]: He might have been really in pain knowing Derby, because my fed brain to quote Dave Meltzer was thinking Steve Borden was going to climb the top turn buckle and jump on him like Kevin Knight did.
[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't do that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought Kevin Knight might come out here in attack him again.
[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't do that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Or he might come out into attack Steve Borden.
[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't do that.
[SPEAKER_01]: They go to commercial.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're now 10 minutes past the overrun.
[SPEAKER_01]: They come back.
[SPEAKER_01]: They showed a replay of the angle, which I normally would love, but we're 10 minutes in doing overrun.
[SPEAKER_01]: And there have an audio issues like crazy.
[SPEAKER_01]: That whatever is being said is over the house mic and they're talking over each other.
[SPEAKER_01]: They pointed out that Darby had burns on his face from the pyro.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they go backstage, and they're wheeling Darby to an ambulance and boredom is falling in the whole way, Kevin night shows up and he gets in Borden's face and he says, don't get caught up in the crosshairs where the big boys play, stand your lane.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think I know what's happening here, Jeff.
[SPEAKER_00]: What do you think's happening?
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that Darby is out of the match at Wembley, not legitimately, like it's a storyline.
[SPEAKER_01]: Steve Borden's gonna step up and he's gonna beat Kevin night for the title in his first match.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: I even think, look, I would not even hesitate if they're going to do that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Where Darby's at all in and he introduces boarden as his replacement to kind of do the same thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Sting mentored me.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm mentoring him.
[SPEAKER_00]: do that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's a it's a false count anywhere so they can do all kinds of smoking mirrors.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah in the match for you know boarden and from what I gather I've never seen them wrestle but I mean definitely looks apart.
[SPEAKER_01]: And if Darby's training him I think he can do a false count anywhere bad.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, yeah, dark dark, yeah, yeah, and his dad too.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so yeah, uh, and then we get the main event and it's uh, the boxing Omega against Mark Davis, Jake Doyle and L. Clone.
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, during the entrance his offspring Omega had a face off in the back, I think I think one of them said something to the other one, but I didn't quite catch it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I did try to rewind and watch it, but I, I just couldn't get to a night.
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to get through this show.
[SPEAKER_01]: So anyways, the the heels got the offense before the break as they always do they went through a break.
[SPEAKER_01]: They came back and then it was just greatest hits from from the baby faces, which by the way, Kenny Omega was a baby face for 10 minutes and yeah, so they, you know, they hit the, you can escape the moon salts.
[SPEAKER_01]: They did the terminator dive and right after the terminator dive, Tony Shavani says, we're an overtime.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's keep going guys.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love this.
[SPEAKER_00]: you Tony and this mental picture of Paul was a just fuck you Tony yeah I literally said that the fans of Cheney B.D.
[SPEAKER_01]: late they were loving it so Tony Con was probably chented to in the back.
[SPEAKER_01]: Clooney, Clooney, Clooney, Duck to move by Kenny then Davis was running wild but Kenny made a comeback Kenny hit a snap dragon
[SPEAKER_01]: I wrote down Davis, but I actually think it was Doyle, the triple superkick on Doyle, then Kenny hit a V trigger on Doyle, one wing of the angel and got the pin.
[SPEAKER_01]: Ben, the Calis family ran in, attacked the elite.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was Lance, Archer, and RPG vice, probably some other people too.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so they're beating on the heel.
[SPEAKER_01]: Then Edge makes the save.
[SPEAKER_01]: His music first, but he hauled ass to get down to the ring.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then the heels eventually got Edge.
[SPEAKER_01]: Christian just wanders out there taking his sweet time, but eventually he got there and made the save knee ran wild.
[SPEAKER_01]: And eventually he had a low blow on Rocky.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then the I think the the butts were going to super kick Rocky.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was Rocky, but then he ducked and they hit Christian and then Christian got pissed off and edge turned around just in time to see them hit Christian, so then he got mad at them and and then I guess that's where the thing cut out.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I guess you said they all ended up rolling to the back right.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then eventually Kevin Kenny is left alone with a mic.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's about to talk with Ospreys music hits
[SPEAKER_01]: And Osprey says, Kenny, I was just wondering what you wanted to say to me, after the match, he said, why don't you come out here?
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, don't be so charming.
[SPEAKER_01]: You got as much charm as a parking ticket.
[SPEAKER_01]: So what have you got to say to me after you brought up my seven-year-old son, you prick?
[SPEAKER_01]: And then Kenny says,
[SPEAKER_01]: I only got one thing to say to the likes of you, Will Osprey.
[SPEAKER_01]: Security, get him out of here.
[SPEAKER_01]: Osprey calls him a pussy.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then he's like, get out of here.
[SPEAKER_01]: Get out of here with your tails, between the legs.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, a little English bitch that you are.
[SPEAKER_01]: Take him back.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to see you till Wembly.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're done.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then, Will says, I'm going to kick the shit out of you and he runs into the ring, charge the ring, attack them, gets in the mount, and then security pulled them off, and while they're pulling him off, can he hit a V trigger?
[SPEAKER_01]: Through this security guard's out of the ring and he grabbed a mic and he says, I don't need you anyway.
[SPEAKER_01]: One last lesson to teach you my friend, get out of here, take one last look, you son of a bitch, you son of a bitch, you pull them over the table, give them a one-way
[SPEAKER_01]: uh... the chatted holy shit and uh... and can use doing is like just over the top ridiculous he'll face uh... and uh... yeah and it was i uh... we talked about it earlier it was going to win for you to the air in the observer i mean it's i mean it really should be the americans but you know you're probably right further into that despite the americans
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm going to go for Cody and Punk, I'm just kidding, Cody and Randy Danhausen versus the Miz.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh God, where's the Miz by the way?
[SPEAKER_01]: who cares?
[SPEAKER_01]: Why do we talk about the Miz on an AWS show?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, I mean, it was, you know what?
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I said, like, if they were gonna do this angle, I think it would have been more effective to just have the Osprey Maths be the main event.
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't even do the Kenny and Box match.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then, you know, because then you don't have the, you have Kenny as a clear heel.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like this was, this was just weird.
[SPEAKER_00]: And Kenny was like, this should have been done weeks ago if we're gonna make him this big of a deal.
[SPEAKER_01]: If he not like just flat out lifting on callous lines at the end there, like he's just on callous, really.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, yeah, like it was weird.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it just, it's too much.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's one thing when you're subtle and you're just kind of like subtly like, but this was like flip the switch.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a different character now.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, and then I'm a different character again and again, like because he flipped the switch during the interview then he flipped it back in the baby face match then he flipped it back after the match There's a part of me thinking they've had callos family beat down is so stupid because I think callos may show up during this made of that some and he didn't you eat I guess he just wasn't there.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, I mean at Wembley.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh at Wembley.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, oh, like screwdriver with a screwdriver.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, he might be right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, there's going to be a screwdriver in the international title match.
[SPEAKER_01]: And O'Cott is going to use it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then it's not going to be there for Kenny, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: And that would be it too.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no, no.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so that's that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you know what, like all ins in 11 days, as they told us a bunch of times tonight, there's so many lot of tickets that got over 40,000 this week.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're probably going to get well over 45.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I have for a W.
[SPEAKER_01]: But does that mean after this review?
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I don't know about the people buying things for this.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, it's, you know what, they want to see, you can't think is, they want to see Will Osprey win the title at Wembley.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's a very simple story.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, um, you know what, and I will say this, they, there was a match, and I will talk about New Japan, even though it's not a W because they are a sister company, and we had New Japan wrestlers on this show.
[SPEAKER_01]: They just had the G1.
[SPEAKER_01]: Two baby faces in the main event.
[SPEAKER_01]: They told a great story.
[SPEAKER_01]: They had an awesome match.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think we'll make an Osprey or probably have a better match, but it's not gonna be much better.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't think the Omega Osprey match would be worse if you had done it with the storyline of I'm the best.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to keep my belt.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're the best and it's your time is coming, but it's not yet.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's all they have to say.
[SPEAKER_00]: Training montages in the world.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: East versus West, Robinations, is it?
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess they're not East versus West, they're more like North versus South.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you could say East.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like West is, West is Kenny and East is Will from Japan.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, that's right, let's say that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, anyways.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, uh, yeah, they could have done, yeah, uh, Jason brought up, they could have brought the, done the Angle with board and taken the Vent Terminator, but I think they're doing it to remove Darby.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, which, again, like, I don't think Darby needs a TNT title and, and I think that you make a star instantly in one night.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's why I'm not opposed to it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, let's hope we see it.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that was that.
[SPEAKER_01]: We got through a show with an overrun in like an hour and eight minutes, which is good because it's we're still at the time when we usually finish.
[SPEAKER_01]: So hey, maybe maybe my nights on a complete loss.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, you know what if I was watching this show and I didn't have a podcast to do, I probably would have liked a little bit better, but I just get frustrated.
[SPEAKER_01]: So.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, if I didn't have a podcast to do, this will have been the week I quit A. W. Well, I wouldn't watch it, but I wouldn't watch it tonight.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: But in this way, I still haven't even watched like the New Japan G1 final.
[SPEAKER_01]: I watched the final match, but I still have the rest of the show to watch.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I just don't have the time these days, and A. W. With their 35-minute overruns is, it's killing me, man.
[SPEAKER_01]: But...
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyways, uh, I guess you don't have a podcast to put tomorrow.
[SPEAKER_00]: I will be doing some audio some kind of release, basically here's the deal, uh, Rob McCarran got a new job.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, and he's not gonna have time to do shake them ropes anymore.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's too bad.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I am left to decide what my fate is with the show and to be honest with you, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: Good I don't know my, and I'll explain my thinking on the release, I think Rob's doing some goodbye audio for me.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm probably going to be taking a little bit of a break to try and figure out if I can reformulate this in some way and figure something out because the powers that be and voices have been very nice and they're saying hey don't shut it yet figure out what you want to do figure out if you miss it because I do enjoy doing audio.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I don't watch, I don't want to watch 12 hours of wrestling a week anymore, but we'll see what happens.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I'll explain everything on that show.
[SPEAKER_00]: There'll be shake them ropes.
[SPEAKER_00]: It'll be on the feed or the voices of wrestling mega feed.
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe you could do some kind of like a retro thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that there's not a big market for right now.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, gosh, that's the thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: But it's one of those things.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like my idea really right now that I've kind of proposed and even Rob's amenable to this.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like a once a month round table.
[SPEAKER_00]: I enjoy round tables.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, enjoy the round tables.
[SPEAKER_00]: We were doing here.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, and even, and we do, like the show we do on Sundays, is right around table, which, you know, it's more of a square.
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, and yeah, and that, I mean, you know, you say you know, I podcast and you've got that podcast to do now, which is it's one hour.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's the quickest hour in podcasting.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, now would be the time to plug it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Paul.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I'm doing, did that job.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we normally do it on Sunday afternoon, flash evening, this coming week and this past week actually two.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're doing it on Monday.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's going to be Monday at 70's turn four Pacific and we're going to be reviewing a couple of pink albums.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we're also going to talk about the late great Frank Beard and the greatness of ZZ Top.
[SPEAKER_00]: What's the name of this podcast, Paul?
[SPEAKER_01]: The music nerd's podcast.
[SPEAKER_01]: You can find it on the music nerd podcast, YouTube channel, or all your favorite podcast feeds.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's me, Jeff, Seb, and Dirty Dan Musicman.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, for the aforementioned Jeff Hawkins, for the great Paul Ace of OnTain.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, wait.
[SPEAKER_01]: Forge I'm out and I've been Paul Plattaine, this is a good time in my show.
[SPEAKER_01]: Later, everybody.
[SPEAKER_00]: The wait is great.