[SPEAKER_01]: What is up, everybody?
[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to the Stack on Alex.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm Justin.
[SPEAKER_01]: And on the Stack, we talk about a ton of books that have come out this weekend.
[SPEAKER_01]: We spoil it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh boy, do we spoil it?
[SPEAKER_02]: We take such pleasure at it.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, we love it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I honestly don't even offer up my opinion about anything review anything.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just list down the plot points of the book all the way to that very last battle.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love Freak for spoiling.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love running up to you on the subway and screaming news at them Just about the world.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, about the world that comic book beers.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're not like you want to hear the end of absolute green arrow No, it's harder to spoil something when people have no interest or understanding what this I found.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh You read comic books you little boy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, anyway, we're a bunch of little boys that read comic books, and we are actually going to review them as well as spoilers for them.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're necessary kicking it off with absolute green arrow number four from DC Comics.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're in by porn tech piece showed art by Raphael Albuquerque.
[SPEAKER_01]: Big issue here as Solomon Grundy of the Absolute Universe.
[SPEAKER_01]: battles both Dinalands and eventually green arrow as well the green arrow killer who is a serial killer who's been murdering billionaires.
[SPEAKER_01]: As I find out this issue almost definitely not Oliver Queen who seems to be in a bunch of body chunks here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Stack a chunks.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, all right.
[SPEAKER_02]: P is a stack.
[SPEAKER_01]: What's your favorite version of green arrow?
[SPEAKER_01]: Like there's the thing we're like He's kind of wearing a hood over his face Yes, like the run the arrow flim mustache and beard or their stack of chunks like I like what I like about stack of chunks is You never need to know what he's up to or where he's going because he's just stacking Yeah, it's just like us.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're so we're doing the stack and
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I would love to see?
[SPEAKER_01]: I would love points out to bring in absolute green latored and do hard travel in stack of chunks.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, he could sort of use his ring to animate the chunks.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I was saying he's like they go on the road and they're both stacks of chunks and both chunks.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they both chunks.
[SPEAKER_01]: Chunks all the way down.
[SPEAKER_02]: A hard chunk in heroes is what they are.
[SPEAKER_01]: uh... this is great that's why we're taking so long to get around to it because all you can really say about this is the art is gorgeous raffael albuquerque air think really just raises his game every issue on this both in terms of the gore but the action of the character work and you were saying this on the live show it's just a really intriguing mystery
[SPEAKER_02]: I've really caught up in the mystery, it's a, it's drama like a horror book, but it's really like a corporate thriller with me superheroes, but what I like about it is the bad stuff, all these corporate, these like billionaires are doing in this book and reality.
[SPEAKER_02]: Really, is a horror story to me now, so the way that Raphael Albuquerque's art is reflecting that is awesome.
[SPEAKER_02]: I really love Dina Lance in this, this reluctant hero, hard-knuckle situation that she constantly finds herself in, I think this is quickly becoming one of my favorite absolute books, despite the fact that it is so different than the rest of them.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I also, I'm sure this is constructed like good mystery.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're also talking about this over on lanterns a little bit on the sunset.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm kind of podcast, but one of the big things about a big mystery is you can't throw it a random swirv character at the end.
[SPEAKER_01]: This needs to be somebody we've already met.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, but I have no idea.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I'm thinking through all of the characters of the
[SPEAKER_01]: 100% of the loss, who this green arrow killer is, and I love it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, the book does a great job on a faster time frame each issue of being like, what if it's a right Harper?
[SPEAKER_02]: Nope, definitely not.
[SPEAKER_02]: What if it actually is all I'm equine chunks?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, it's setting up and knocking down potential green arrows all the time.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, yes, I don't know who it could be.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep, this is great.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you're not picking this up, you have to be, let's move on, talk about another big issue from the other big publisher, Avengers Armageddon, number three from Marvel, written by Chip Starsky, art by Ariel Anantito.
[SPEAKER_01]: After the end of the last issue, David Colton has gone rogue.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you don't know who David Colton is, he is a Captain America of the 2000s who has a heart condition, so he also has an
[SPEAKER_01]: a power box from the ultimate universe that gave him the powers of somebody we don't know exactly who it is seems century level powers but may or may not be the century we don't know
[SPEAKER_01]: and he has decided to pull a Superman for the quest for peace and disarm all the nuclear weapons in the world and people are kind of choosing science whether he's doing the right thing or not, I've been a little down on this series and I'm still not 100% convinced, but there were enough intriguing moments in this issue that I'm going to hear them out, you know?
[SPEAKER_02]: I, you're gonna hear him out.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're gonna have to hear him out.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, let me let me me through you on my take that like brought me around a little bit on this.
[SPEAKER_01]: Is we know that Chip Zarsky is gonna be writing Avengers after this.
[SPEAKER_01]: They've already been like hardcore teasing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, after the end of the Avengers Armageddon, there's no more Avengers.
[SPEAKER_01]: And instead, we have these very mostly street level of Avengers and super heroes are most around not.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm like, okay, I kind of know where this is going.
[SPEAKER_01]: The thing that I started to feel about this is this is his first Ark on Avengers.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like this is being sold as big events series.
[SPEAKER_01]: But really, this is actually his first five issues of Avengers, and then we're gonna get a second Ark.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, but we're doing the Avengers Disassembled in the Avengers assemble, which but I like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's a good model.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, if the criticism I think that we've talked about a little bit is that this has been just so much set up to get here, and a lot of like a little bit of a wander and bringing in the ultimate, the origin box from the ultimate universe, feels like something I'm like, I didn't need that.
[SPEAKER_02]: That doesn't make me happier to know that these came from the end of the ultimate universe.
[SPEAKER_02]: You could be like, hey, this Captain America, this also ran cap is super powered and going rogue, but sort of doing good is a great premise and like we could have just started right here like you're saying where this could be
[SPEAKER_02]: issue three of his Avengers run.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the political machinations that were painstakingly set up actually are bearing fruit right now.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I am enjoying the end of this issue is a not a superhero threat, but a regular old geopolitical threat that I think is well shown here and
[SPEAKER_02]: Wolverine and space.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's, you know what, that's his weakness space space space.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I'll throw off the two moments that really got me in the issue is one, yes David Colton, bringing Wolverine and dropping him from space.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's just cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: Got him.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a cool thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then the other one is the moment halfway through the issue where Bucky and Wolverine are tracking down David Colton, ostensibly to tell him to cut it out with this RBG all the nuclear weapons of the United States because that's going to stable as the entire world.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Bucky turned around and being like, oh, you missed a couple.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think up this phone.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, oh, good twist.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a super justified.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's 100% and they do like a little justice like lightning thing which ties into his time with the Thunderbolts.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, oh, right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is the place that Bucky is in right now on continuity.
[SPEAKER_01]: This tracks more than anything else I've read of this entire series so far.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, especially Bucky's arc under one world under Doom, I thought was really great.
[SPEAKER_02]: And one of my favorite parts of that crossover.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that really tracks here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Plus, Bucky hates missiles.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's where he died.
[SPEAKER_02]: He died from missiles.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is our chance to be there, like his crowbar, if he was Jason Todd.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: Except actually, when you think about Jason Todd's, our chance, he should also be a missile, because that's what actually killed him.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think everyone's enemy is a missile.
[SPEAKER_02]: Technically we're a very vulnerable my Achilles heel missiles and I I hate to be the one What's your cryptonite missiles?
[SPEAKER_02]: Big knives in in me.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the usual stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that diarrhea parasite that's going around No, I'm strong against that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you're strong.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've got diarrhea experience
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm a pro at that.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what I'm asking him.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right?
[SPEAKER_01]: When you joined the podcast, I remember seeing that will be in Peter and I interviewed you.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Every actor has a secret, and mine is diarrhea experience.
[SPEAKER_01]: Alright, what do we move on to talk about in Vittcible Universe Battle Beast, number 12 from Skybound, and Scott X written by Robert Kirkred, aren't I?
[SPEAKER_01]: Go to bed.
[SPEAKER_01]: Go to bed, Alex.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love this book, shut up, Justin, uh, it's so, you know, you're basic dude, you can say it's like, I am basic for this book.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't, I kind of don't want it like it because there's barely any story here whatsoever.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just, there's almost negative story in this book.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's un-story happening in this book.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just battle-piece and conquest being like, I love killing people, and I want to die, respectively, and kind of going from there, but there's a moment, like there's a moment in every issue where I'm like, this is so particularly over the top, and Robert Kirkman clearly is just having a good time, right, and not least clearly having a good time.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's infectious.
[SPEAKER_02]: Alex Salvin's clearly having a good time.
[SPEAKER_01]: I am clearly having a good time, because it's seen the three of the pages.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're just,
[SPEAKER_01]: It, uh, even by the standards of invincible or it's like, oh boy, that guy ripped apart and now he's going to be fine Both of these characters are going to be fine because this takes place before a point where we know they're fine Yes, but they're flying in the air and battle dees has ripped out Conquest and test it's got that he's like
[SPEAKER_01]: Stop rip it out my guts and then battle these starts slurping his intestines.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's lady and lady in the tramping his intestines down to his Yes, we had consequences you're selling stop eating me, and that's the point where I was like I
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry, I can't.
[SPEAKER_01]: I have no resistance against this.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, true.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I must have some crazy viral resistance against this because I, it's just, I've read this.
[SPEAKER_02]: I like this is so goof.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a parody of itself at the same time.
[SPEAKER_02]: The characters are repeating lines they say in every issue or they're like, I want to die.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I want to kill you.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, we just said this last issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I guess you have to reiterate that for the new issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: But if this were a fight, you don't really expect to hear people restate their justice.
[SPEAKER_01]: Justin, every issue is somebody's first issue.
[SPEAKER_01]: Somebody out there was like, I'm going to start with invincible average battle piece number 12.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm handing this out to kids on the subway.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's why I'm under house arrest currently.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, this is other great or terrible.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a better guy to do you ask.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's move on talk about what I think we agree on.
[SPEAKER_01]: Destrock, the Terminator, number six from DC Comics, really by Tony Fleece, Art by Carmine D. Gian Domeneco, the big cliffhanger at the end of the last issue.
[SPEAKER_01]: First of all, it's just set it up.
[SPEAKER_01]: Destrock is on the run.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's been blamed for the death of Wintergreen.
[SPEAKER_01]: His Alfred, essentially.
[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't do it.
[SPEAKER_01]: It turns out it's actually his
[SPEAKER_01]: And to really drive him off the deep end, she shot his daughter Rose at point-play range.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, a little bit of continuity that I didn't realize in the last issue that they mentioned.
[SPEAKER_01]: This issue is, Rose's deathstroke's daughter not her daughter.
[SPEAKER_01]: He had two kids with this wife who is now the new evil deathstroke or more evil deathstroke.
[SPEAKER_01]: Rose is with another mother, so that's why she feels comfortable killing Rose, though actually Rose survives, but just barely by the end here.
[SPEAKER_01]: Man, this is great, and man, I love how it does not back away from being the darkest shit possible.
[SPEAKER_01]: Including destruct, there's nothing heroic about him in this book.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's just less worse than several of the other people.
[SPEAKER_02]: it's unblinking and it goes down the dark path, the art is fantastic, well still has that glossy feel despite the fact that it's just like awful situations over and over and over again.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, Desterok is called out his daughter gets shot and he loves her.
[SPEAKER_02]: We've seen scenes in previous issues about how much he cares for her.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he's fighting his ex-wife who just shot her and he chases her, leaves behind his barely alive daughter.
[SPEAKER_02]: Chases the new destruct.
[SPEAKER_02]: And she's like, look, you claim to be a good person, yet you left your daughter just to get revenge on me.
[SPEAKER_02]: I got that was, I love, I thought there was such a great call out.
[SPEAKER_02]: Real undercut the hero's journey.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're getting here.
[SPEAKER_02]: This issue ends and I was like, oh, this could easily be the end of the series.
[SPEAKER_02]: But we get more.
[SPEAKER_02]: We get more coming.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's super exciting.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was one of my favorite books on the stack on the stands right now agreed.
[SPEAKER_01]: Next up Spider Man Hulk fire and Grimstone never went from Marvel Written by Kevin Smith and Andrew McElfresh art by RB Silva.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is about what's what's happening in this kind of great.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was like I was like did anyone read this before
[SPEAKER_01]: It's coming right out of the state right out of the machine to our hands.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, okay, so first of all I think we all know it's August so it's time to put Easter books on the stands And that's what this is about this is an Easter book where Spider-Man is fighting the Manosphere Which is a bunch of villains that all have the funny idea in their name.
[SPEAKER_01]: It shows up and then there's also because it's an Easter service.
[SPEAKER_01]: There is a priest there
[SPEAKER_01]: who is pretty upset about the Hulk and decides they're going to exercise the Hulk and Bruce Banner by the end is like, you know what?
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a pretty good idea.
[SPEAKER_01]: Also, Daredevil is there because he's Catholic.
[SPEAKER_02]: This book, I was like, is this the Catholic Church put this out?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, this is like the most, it's a weirdly pro Catholicism pro religion story.
[SPEAKER_01]: Wait, I'm just sorry to add on to that before we get to far.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not that we're anti-religion here on the podcast.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just, this is clearly like, I agree with you.
[SPEAKER_01]: This feels like they've been doing all these corporate things with like F1, Raysay, and whatever.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: one of the right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, we're going to sell this in the lobby of the Vatican.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what I felt like, and I was like, I mean, if that's the story, and like we get where Daredevil fans, so much of that is about faith Catholicism.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm here for that.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is like a story where it's like, have you given religion a try, reader?
[SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, I don't want that.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it made me think like, are the creators of this becoming religious and wanted to put it out in comics?
[SPEAKER_02]: So that criticism I will have said and we'll put aside, there are two I love comedy.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love comedy, but it's dedicated to my life, too.
[SPEAKER_02]: Too many dumb jokes in this.
[SPEAKER_02]: Too many.
[SPEAKER_02]: Every one's two in a joke, and I'm like, no, no.
[SPEAKER_02]: You have a fight where everyone's doing jokes.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of it here where Spider-Man is like, well, hey, I'm the guy with the jokes, and I'm like, no, everybody has the jokes, all they're just doing nonstop bits.
[SPEAKER_01]: The bigger problem with it is the idea of the way they sold this is like, we're going to exercise the Hulk.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's interesting to me.
[SPEAKER_01]: I like the idea of Spider-Man and Daredevil being like it's too much.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's go at a church and try to do the exorcist but the Hulk.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: The fact that half this issue spends making jokes about various z-list villains that have man in their name and that eventually they wind around to this idea is crazy to me.
[SPEAKER_01]: They waste so much time in this issue.
[SPEAKER_01]: doing unnecessary, not particularly funny bits, and I not to take this too far field.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was already worried about the idea of Kevin Smith writing the upcoming Star Wars Avengers crossover that they're doing.
[SPEAKER_01]: This set up like a alarm bells over by head, not that I need like a deadly serious Star Wars
[SPEAKER_01]: If this is the serious religion book or his religion book, how is he could ever go to be able to resist not making nonstop puns in his Star Wars Marvel book, anyway, whatever.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I'm sure the tonal be a little bit different there, but I just think that the art and this is cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought it was a nice, arby silver, great artist.
[SPEAKER_02]: Great superhero action, good classic looking Hulk.
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought for the design choice there.
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, there's just such a weird tonal mismatch.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a real section where they're big-uping prime apple juice.
[SPEAKER_01]: And
[SPEAKER_02]: That was good.
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe it's just because of the high light of Pineapple juice on Daredevil board again.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, is this a reference?
[SPEAKER_01]: Are you referencing Daredevil board again?
[SPEAKER_01]: But do you think something entirely different?
[SPEAKER_02]: What's Daredevil board again made it seem like Pineapple juice will kill you.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is like saying Pineapple juice will save your life.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe it's a make-good to big pineapple after they messed up right morning.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to have probably sell this in the Vatican and also the Pineapple store.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you know the dull, big dull, the dull, Bob-doll.
[SPEAKER_02]: Big dull is in our politics.
[SPEAKER_02]: Bob-doll.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: You guys get us.
[SPEAKER_01]: You get it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Where they do not stop jokes he do nonstop references to political figures from 40 years ago 30 Yes, what do you think about our critical opinions on this comic book that we just said let us know the comments below Are they valid?
[SPEAKER_02]: Probably not that I think the criticism No, we've done it.
[SPEAKER_02]: We've done a good job of dressing them up.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're like too many bits and then proceeding to do 15 bits I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like we have a kind of a little bit
[SPEAKER_01]: That's probably fine with that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's good.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's healthy.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're allowed to.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're not putting out our podcast.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not Spider-Man, a whole comic book club yet.
[SPEAKER_02]: I wish it was.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: GI Joe number 25 from SkyBout and Image Comics written by Joshua Williams in Art by Tom Riley and Andrea Milano.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's the big issue 25.
[SPEAKER_01]: The reveal in the last issue is our 10.
[SPEAKER_01]: The guy who is a master,
[SPEAKER_01]: It was revealed to Baroness after he killed a prisoner that they have, and this issue he blames it on her, and she goes on the run chased by, well, protected by G.I.J.
[SPEAKER_01]: and chased by nightforce, which she's caught in the middle.
[SPEAKER_01]: As usual, I really feel like this title is punching above its weight.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't really care too much about G.I.J.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like Pete who was our big G.I.
[SPEAKER_01]: Joe Kai on the podcast, but man the art and this is really good Tom Riley and Andrea Milana are just great and the action is profulsive and I'm into the moves that Baroness makes.
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought this was fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: I agree with you.
[SPEAKER_02]: I really liked this.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just a great action run.
[SPEAKER_02]: Despite the fact that this is pretty deep into continuity at this point, I think you could pick this issue up and get the main thrust of the story.
[SPEAKER_02]: Baroness is on the run.
[SPEAKER_02]: Different shows helper or try to stop her.
[SPEAKER_02]: We get some a lot of listing of Joe.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you love lists of Joe's, this is the comic for you, because they list Joe's all up and down and doing what GI Joe comics do best, ending with the reveal of a Joe that I'm like, probably making Pete smile, making Pete sit up and bad and do a little jig.
[SPEAKER_02]: He loves it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I thought this is great.
[SPEAKER_01]: Even if you're not a GI Joe fan like I was saying, you can pick this right up, excuse me.
[SPEAKER_01]: Next up, absolute flash number 18 from DC Comics, run by Jeff LeMier, art by Nick Roblese, and this issue now that flash has a name, he's trying out being a hero a little bit, but unfortunately for him, a new villain comes after him who we know as Zoom, but has a riff on those powers in a very different way.
[SPEAKER_01]: he could see what is at 30 seconds into the future.
[SPEAKER_01]: So he is able to essentially protect moves and get ahead of them, including the flash.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not 30.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's like one second.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's very short.
[SPEAKER_01]: What it is is a different riff on it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I got to say I think this was my favorite issue of this title so far.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was, we're finally like put intended hitting the ground running
[SPEAKER_01]: it's a really good villain in this issue as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: We've got some good conspiracy elements at the background.
[SPEAKER_01]: Also, pun intended, I think it's really hit it stride.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, wow.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're intending so much.
[SPEAKER_02]: I agree with you.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is great.
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like this title has also has the
[SPEAKER_02]: it despite the fact that it is like the more bright the brightest absolute book it still has like such darkness and threat happening here we get to see Ralph and Sue Dibney in this I was like oh nice oh god oh no they get they get got in a nasty way in this book we have
[SPEAKER_02]: and two villains introduced here that are nasty one in the middle, the zoom, who is treated a sort of like a grifter in a way, but whose powers are really welled shown in the fight in the sort of back third of the book, and then I've revealed at the last page that I thought was great.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, really good.
[SPEAKER_01]: Good to see this one picking up steam and the mortal Thor number 800 from Marvel written by valuing Karen Gillen and Chris Condon, art by Pasquale Farrey, Declan Shaalvi and Jesse Loner again, as you could probably tell we're getting three stories of Thor here, the main story.
[SPEAKER_01]: is bringing this title into its next iteration as Sigurd Jarlson goes through various tests at the best of Odin.
[SPEAKER_01]: He is the mortal Thor, he's an aspect of Thor, but not actually Thor, himself as we
[SPEAKER_01]: begin to understand at or at least I begin to understand even better in this issue uh... and then we got a curing gillin story looking back a little bit on his take on the character and then a great back up from Chris condon and Jesse lawner again that promises it's to be continued which i thought was very interesting what you think about this issue
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, we're setting up for the return of the immortal Thor essentially and that's that third story is is that right isn't that the what we're getting there, basically, which is cool I'm so intrigued by this the mortal Thor as a character and what allewings intention here is.
[SPEAKER_02]: It feels like it's a flip on Thor being forced to go to Earth and live as a regular person, where this is just a regular person thrust into the role of Thor, essentially.
[SPEAKER_02]: where like he doesn't have the power so he has a regular hammer on a bungee cord, yet he is still able to be the hero.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's still able to sort of bear the to hang in the tree as it were as the riff, the like Odin did for his nine days tortured and we get singer doing that sort of for infinity and with an infinite amount of pain to try to push back the serpent and
[SPEAKER_02]: I really, this is so smart, it's surprising that it was, I thought we were going to end up getting the SIGER to be power about, to that he would become Thornton.
[SPEAKER_01]: I like that they're not, though.
[SPEAKER_01]: I agree.
[SPEAKER_02]: I agree.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think this is a much more surprising, better version of that story.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Kremlin wrong.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm having a little bit of a fuzzy memory because we let a lot of titles this week.
[SPEAKER_01]: The curing go in Declan Shaovi.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's about the hammer.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's about Mielner, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: It's Mielner talking.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mielner just be in a hammer.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's my cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: Everyone's so worried about if they're worthy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Am I worthy?
[SPEAKER_02]: Mielner, you never wonder if Mielner's worthy.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's what Mielner is talking about in this story.
[SPEAKER_02]: which I thought was cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then of course the back up story you get nothing against Chris Condon, but more stellar Jesse Lattergett are just one of the best working in the business today.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think from talk it aggressive about it, he also is like, yeah, this is so I could work with too long again.
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's great.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just a three great stories about Thor, a great package.
[SPEAKER_01]: Very happy with this one.
[SPEAKER_02]: Great package and you know we get a lot of these big anniversary numberings that feel feels like we're like oh another one of these this one is just a really nice packaging of stories and there's no weak part here right though.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Killer influences number two from IDW written by Joey Esposito art by Valeria Burzo this series is about a true crime podcaster who was teamed up with a serial killer who was so good at serial killing nobody was picking up on it and they made a deal she becomes the exclusive
[SPEAKER_01]: for announcing his kills and makes him famous and builds his legend.
[SPEAKER_01]: Guess what?
[SPEAKER_01]: That doesn't work out great in this issue, but I love the twists and turns that are going out here at Greek territory dynamics.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of other things going on in the world other than this, so it's not just like a Twilight Zone episode and that's it.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's more texture there to these characters.
[SPEAKER_01]: Really cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: really feel seen about the struggles of just maintaining a podcast over time it's sort of a main plot point legitimately in this story so that's fun and you mentioned there's a great there's sort of two surprises that happened in this issue and the second one I thought the violence of it really caught me off guard I thought especially the first half of the book is very much like
[SPEAKER_02]: everyone's negotiating and sort of like getting a little bit more of what they want.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then in the end, it goes hard the other way.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that was a pleasant surprise in a book that I just didn't see it coming.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Next up, the last driver.
[SPEAKER_01]: Number one from image comics by Sean Murphy.
[SPEAKER_01]: This takes place in World War Cars.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're all gone except for one.
[SPEAKER_01]: And no, the guy who can drive that car, he's got to drive.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, we talked about that Spidey Hulk book being maybe written by the Catholic Church.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think this book was written by a car.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because this book is the most pro-car thing I've ever had.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's crazy Pete's not here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I hope he's reading this book and just like doing his auto-erotic exphyxiation when it comes to seeing cars.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because he literally he jams the comic and the tailpipe of the back so you can really get the smoke in the car, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: The he's tailpipe.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I mean, you don't want to be.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you don't.
[SPEAKER_01]: His tailpipe, wink, wink.
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, wink, wink.
[SPEAKER_02]: No wink, necessary.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, we're talking about Pete's tailpipe.
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, this is, um, I mean, Sean Murphy, uh, on art is fun is good stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, but it is a, uh, we've seen a lot of car race and comics, I feel like I'm in the last couple years.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was a little confused reading this issue to be perfectly honest with you.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just felt like there was too many things going on
[SPEAKER_01]: do that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe we don't have everybody stand around talking all the time.
[SPEAKER_02]: There is a lot of talking and I'll tell you what a lot of the talking is him explained to his sick daughter who's also his sidekick, how cars work, I'm like, hey bro, I know how a car works.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe she doesn't because she lives in this dystopian carless future.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I certainly, she's like, imagine having a, uh, you turn the radio to a station you might like.
[SPEAKER_02]: Instead of just playing on an iPod, I'm like, got it, bro, say no more.
[SPEAKER_01]: Literally, you don't need to keep telling me how to tell me that if you stick a comic in the tailpipe, it's sexual in some way, interesting, tell me more.
[SPEAKER_02]: Tell me about this tailpipe, the LePage tailpipe.
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: I expected a little more action here, but like you said, Sean Murphy's heart is great.
[SPEAKER_01]: So when it does get to the action, that moves along nicely.
[SPEAKER_01]: Superman on limited number 16 from DC Comics written by Dan Slod, art by Rachel Stott, no relation.
[SPEAKER_01]: This continually, the Kingdom of Zod is storyline where L, a Caldero, the Kryptonite City, has been taken, Kryptonite Kingdom, excuse me, has been taken over by Zod, and the whole Superman family is going to try to stop him.
[SPEAKER_01]: Meanwhile, a Kryptonite infection is spreading all over the world at the same time.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the house of Elvis fighting back against it,
[SPEAKER_01]: Pretty messy, but I think it's usual to add slot who came up with this idea to begin with, or at least the idea of the kryptonite came to the Superman Unlimited, has a much better handle on it, and things felt a little smoother, add more straight forward.
[SPEAKER_01]: Here, I'm still not in love with this crossover, it's a little too much like we're all the same powers, and we must punch.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's it, but well, and also it's like we can't punch because our weakness Formerly a very rare item is now so busy so everywhere.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's growing out of people's eyes
[SPEAKER_02]: This reminds me of like when I was first taking the improv classes and the teacher would be like, hey, hey, I know when you find something funny you want to do it so hard.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was doing a scene with actually John Gabriel's friend of the show and we were Boy Scouts and he was like, dark coach was like, at one point you had merit badges on your eyelids.
[SPEAKER_02]: You don't need to do that.
[SPEAKER_02]: You could just do do a little of it and then find the fun there.
[SPEAKER_02]: And this is that, I just reminds me of that idea where like when you find something fun, you sometimes play it too hard.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's so much kryptonite here and I want to sort of find out what the point of that is rather than just having them be constantly like depowered by it or having these k-blockers that are then working, but instantly not working.
[SPEAKER_02]: It feels like we're playing a little bit of the intro part of the fight when I want to get to the main event.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the not to get all comic booky about it, but obviously we're talking about comic books.
[SPEAKER_01]: The thing that started to bother me in this issue is, why are they doing this?
[SPEAKER_01]: Why are these superman family in a world where there's one cabiliate heroes, the ones were like,
[SPEAKER_01]: we got to go to the place that's going to kill us, you know, that's not heroic, that's just kind of dumb to do that.
[SPEAKER_01]: When you do have all these heroes even like on the cover, we're seeing steel and his daughter who do not have a
[SPEAKER_02]: there's yes or can we get it for it's we get Batman he would love to do this he loves a job like this we get lowest being captured and um Calel who recently returned and has a sick little beard that he's sporting um he's like I have to go safe low as I'm like that tracks but I'm like there's all your friends are there already like you don't need you're gonna go there in risk your life but they're already doing that same thing so that downplays his heroic choice yeah
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, not in love with this crossover so far, but I'm going to keep it right.
[SPEAKER_02]: But if I don't dance side, it's going to amount to something really cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm looking forward to where we get with it, what's we get through sort of the the melee part of it, which is where we are right now.
[SPEAKER_01]: What if runaways number one from Marvel written by Rainbow Rall, art by Zelema Scott Levina, this continues the 50th anniversary of what if one shot that Marvel has been doing, the idea here is what if the runaways didn't run away, what if they found out about their evil parents of the pride and their parents instead said, hey, come in here.
[SPEAKER_01]: We want to talk to you about this, what would happen next.
[SPEAKER_01]: First of all, I've been really loving these what if the shots, they've been
[SPEAKER_01]: great across the board.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, not all of them are even in terms of quality, but in general I've been liking the swags here.
[SPEAKER_01]: This one loved Rainbow Rally's run on runaways, whatever she comes in for many series.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's great as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: So she has a really good handle on these characters.
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to jump right to the end of this book, which is made me love Rainbow Rally's runways even more.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because the idea of what if is like what if we injected some sort of weird twist that it became a really darkier, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: And it does that for a while, but the eventual thing she hits on is like, no, no, no, no, they would have do that.
[SPEAKER_01]: They would never do that.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, actually pretty good.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they're actually, they're actually good.
[SPEAKER_01]: They would realize the right thing to do.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I love that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like that made my heart grow to size this larger while I was reading this book.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just be like,
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I'm sorry, every other book Spider-Man is like what if Spider-Man got bitten by an armadillo and by the end he's like, I killed everybody.
[SPEAKER_01]: I ate it made.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's with the armadillo made me do.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and here she's like the runaways would eventually realize that this is the wrong thing to do and become heroes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I agree.
[SPEAKER_02]: I did like that, but it made me it though, I getting to the end.
[SPEAKER_02]: I want it made me want it to go further afield in the beginning because what happened with this is like, like, yeah, they were pretty evil for like a couple of weeks and then they hung out and then they were friends.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, oh, that's a pretty one of the lighter.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's one where the watcher, he would show up for that.
[SPEAKER_02]: He wouldn't show up for that twist.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, just imagine a world, but not, not, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: Nah, busy.
[SPEAKER_02]: I got a world where like all the, well, the Spider-Man have butts for faces.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna go check out that world.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: The two fights are where their mouths are.
[SPEAKER_02]: What if the X-Men were, uh, at butts for faces?
[SPEAKER_02]: I couldn't think of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: But here's the thing the watchers going to that world.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, watchers gonna be like I got to check this out This is pretty much stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, how do they talk?
[SPEAKER_02]: What comes out of there?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, oh, really these they talk out of their butt holes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's like East Ventura
[SPEAKER_01]: That's another very current reference.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's not say this out loud on this caucus where you can just email this to Marvel and maybe make this happen now.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Marvel at Marvel.com Ace Ventura.
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's not the best pitch.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm not saying maybe we should write, we should write butthole for faces.
[SPEAKER_02]: In the you name the character, but I think we're, we're on the same page at least.
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, another great what if issue let's talk about dispatch number two from ignition press written by B Claymore art by Danielle Ajitay This is basically die hard with the delivery man where there's guy who was special forces or something back in the day And he has ended up in a building that's being taken over by
[SPEAKER_01]: They white nationalists or what's going on?
[SPEAKER_02]: They're the brotherhood.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, essentially.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he is using whatever is on hand and is delivery truck to take back the building.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'd kill them in various bloody and horrible ways.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think we really love the first issue about the of this.
[SPEAKER_01]: How do you think it held up in issue two?
[SPEAKER_02]: I love this.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is the book that I meant to say at the end of the live show because I thought the first issue was fantastic.
[SPEAKER_02]: And this issue continues.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just a great fast-paced, diehard asks story where you're like, yes, this guy needs to wreck these mass dudes so hard.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think I said about the first issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is what the punishers should be and I think it even more so now.
[SPEAKER_02]: He is I am with him with every violin act something I rarely am in stories like this.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's great
[SPEAKER_01]: I just really appreciate the fact that they went back to the delivery truck this issue which is something that you could skip right by but to play the game of the book he needs to keep being delivery bad and keeping about the packages and that's fun that he goes into those so he's like all right what do I got what can I use here for it he's a delivery man first yeah which it's great bug wars the coming of war doom number one from image comics
[SPEAKER_01]: first mini series or first arc of this series, we met Slade Slademaker, a kid who was sent to the magical horrible kingdom in his back yard, thanks to an amulet from his father.
[SPEAKER_01]: He eventually found out some secrets about his father and in this issue he's back in the human world.
[SPEAKER_01]: but has brought some bug warriors called mites with him.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's also a bubbling threat in the background of squirrels and some squirrel warriors is disgusting.
[SPEAKER_01]: We got a hint of that in the spider which special that came out between the two series.
[SPEAKER_01]: But this came off the next adventure.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know you're a big fan just in.
[SPEAKER_01]: What'd you think of this one?
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's great, I didn't realize this was coming out so soon.
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like we have the spider which story that built a little more mythology into it and had a special sex variant that I got.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, did you?
[SPEAKER_02]: I did get it, yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: How sexual was that sex?
[SPEAKER_02]: Not crazy, not crazy.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it was fine, it was good.
[SPEAKER_02]: But this comic does go out of its way to be like bugs, pretty sexy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there's a two-plage splash here.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're two sexy bugs are in the front, and he's talking about the backyard of the backyard of like come here.
[SPEAKER_01]: You could have adventure.
[SPEAKER_01]: You could have sex with bugs.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, and I think it feels a little bit when I because it's right on like the second page that splash is like, oh, why is that a part of this?
[SPEAKER_02]: That's sex with bugs.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I do think this is about like a boyhood adventure coming of age So it makes sense that that has been spliced in here and we get that here We get slay trying to fit in with his school, but he's literally crawling with bugs.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so I Somehow was able to make it through the first series relatively okay even though I really don't like bug you hate bugs
[SPEAKER_01]: I hate bugs, seeing him walk through the lunchroom with cockroaches, uh, crawling a arc out, I couldn't, I really, I could die with that bitch.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, let me ask you, what, what bugs really bother you in reality, like in your life?
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, not all of them, cockroaches for sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's something about cockroaches, just like, I cannot, they're too fast.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they're too fast, they're, uh, they're lucky, and I want to kill them.
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to catch them horrible, and we used to have,
[SPEAKER_01]: water bugs, the large cockroaches in my old apartment, and it was the worst, like, the absolute worst, like, we have in my apartment that I'm currently in, we have house set to peeds, which I also don't like if they surprise me, like with a party,
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, do you know what house it like with a surprise buddy?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, or like a necklace after you know, I get a potion like a gift Do you know what you don't what house it beats?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, they're those big Yeah, they have like a little and one kabili and legs all around them So they are pretty gross for some reason.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not quite as bothered by them as I am By cockroaches, I don't know what it is
[SPEAKER_02]: But I tell you, I made a short film where featured cockroaches, and so, but I needed cockroaches to be on camera.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I was like, how do I get a cockroach?
[SPEAKER_02]: I could catch, but I needed like a couple, probably.
[SPEAKER_02]: So the only way to do it was to, I ordered cockroaches from a play.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can, because you buy them online, because people feed them to lizards.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I ordered them from California California cockroaches they came and it said like a Pleas of I was shooting in like a month and it said please allow two to four weeks for delivery I was like how good I short of them now then they came in two days
[SPEAKER_02]: So that was like, oh, cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have to keep these cockroaches alive.
[SPEAKER_02]: They came in a cardboard box with no, they were just moose.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, this is a horrible story.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I had to keep them alive for weeks.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to feel so I'm feeding them.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then I have them on camera.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's great.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's really great.
[SPEAKER_02]: You did keep them alive though.
[SPEAKER_02]: I did.
[SPEAKER_02]: I needed them.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's great.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I released them into the wild because they were my actors.
[SPEAKER_02]: now that's very nice.
[SPEAKER_01]: Did you do that with the actors as well?
[SPEAKER_01]: Are you smoosh the actors?
[SPEAKER_02]: I smoosh the human actors.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes of course.
[SPEAKER_02]: And let the cockroaches go by.
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, this is excellent great adventure.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a great set-up here.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is even more honey.
[SPEAKER_01]: I shrug the kids in this particular buddies.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: That even the previous one somehow, which is wild because there's a couple of friends that are along for the ride.
[SPEAKER_01]: Great stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: Really looking forward to more bug wars to come.
[SPEAKER_01]: Dark Knights of Steel II, number two from DC Comics, written by Tom Taylor, art by Otto Schmidt, this is a medieval version of the DC universe.
[SPEAKER_01]: And last issue, we had super girl, the super girl version in this was shot and potentially dying.
[SPEAKER_01]: She's not, she's on the break of death, but it is part of a larger conspiracy that is taking down the house of the owl here.
[SPEAKER_01]: I as well as some other threats literally below the surface, including black matte and above the surface, we've got a mando wall or baking some moves.
[SPEAKER_01]: I believe you've been a big fan of this one as well, Justin.
[SPEAKER_02]: Love this.
[SPEAKER_02]: Love it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Great.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now this is great use of kryptonite, just very subtle, little tiny drops.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it does.
[SPEAKER_01]: See you in a little bit.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, so that's cool, but just the way all these characters are mapped across this, um, the medieval game of thrones, Esk world, I think is really well done.
[SPEAKER_02]: I like the Aquaman inserted into the Superman mythology here is really cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: The love story that's happening and while or being evil,
[SPEAKER_02]: transcends all time, essentially, so that works for me as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this working for me as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think I loved it as quite as much as the first issue, just because it felt a little busier, there was a little more business going on, but you got to set up the plot to get it in motion, and I trust Tom Taylor enough to really hit some crazy jaw dropping twists by the end of this run for sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: And now it's time for a queen and stack or stack and black or whatever, calling a queen and black number three from Marvel written by all you egg art by Ivan Quello and Paco Medina and then we're going to talk about queen and black defenders of light and dark number two, which is by all you in Tom Walts art by Zay Carlos, quickly a little heat check here, how are you feeling about this queen and black event three issues in do we want to keep doing the queen and stack or
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think we should stack black, just to cover it as it's going because I will say I've been enjoying the side quest issues a lot the last week I really liked those two issues that we got.
[SPEAKER_02]: But to talk about them, well, how are I guess you should say how are you feeling about this?
[SPEAKER_01]: In Queen of Black, to talk about that specifically, there is a global venom invasion from Hell's Forces because she's the Queen of Black.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, we know Null is out there as the king of light somewhere, doing something potentially.
[SPEAKER_01]: But we have stuff like a thing-fang-fume venom.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's fun.
[SPEAKER_01]: I like seeing that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I like seeing people fight that.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's drawn very well by Ivan Quello and or Paco Medina.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know specifically who did that page.
[SPEAKER_01]: And there's some good quippy stuff throughout here as well, but it's just weird to me that we are three issues into this.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't like the, you were talking about geography in the last one.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know the geography of like, where is Helen right now?
[SPEAKER_01]: And where is no right now?
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was thinking about this compared to the King and Black crossover.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't remember it specifically, but it feels like to be that no was always central.
[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody was always like, oops, no was in that tower over there, got to get there.
[SPEAKER_01]: We got to stop that.
[SPEAKER_01]: And there's no, I think Hela is in a ship just like hanging out by the moon or something like that, and no was somewhere else.
[SPEAKER_01]: But it needs that.
[SPEAKER_01]: It needs that like hellish ship hanging over Manhattan for people to be like, oh man, we got to get up to that thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we're just not getting that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and it's a little bit of like hell as the Queen and Black, but Null is like a warrior of the lights, but he's still evil and they're not.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're fighting.
[SPEAKER_02]: He wants revenge on her, but the heroes are just in the mix for some reason.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I do think this first page of the main story is so intense, where it's Captain Marvel on the X-Vangers Telepathic Translation X-Vangers.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sorry, we have power scrolls fused with train combat symbiots in Pisa knocking over this the leaning tower I'm like what the fuck why is all this happening?
[SPEAKER_01]: I just wanted to slow down a little bit.
[SPEAKER_01]: And very rarely has an event needed more spin-offs in a mid-E-Series, but I feel like this does.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like this already has a crazy amount of one shots and other things happening around it.
[SPEAKER_01]: But exactly what you're describing throughout this, it feels like we're getting these blips of things happening while everybody, everybody's a wild cable and toti pop-up, but they're like, plan B, nope, not time yet.
[SPEAKER_01]: And as a reader, I'm like, you're just going to do a plan B.
[SPEAKER_01]: That is how you solve the 100% they've done that.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then we get this thing in here where the Fantastic Four are wearing uniforms that change when they've added another member essentially.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: It says a fantastic five on their shirts and then separately Johnny's in Times Square.
[SPEAKER_02]: And his changes from four to five and he says,
[SPEAKER_01]: What?
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a cool idea, but I'm like, what a weird time to deploy this.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Crazy timepiece.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the whole thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's all of it is.
[SPEAKER_01]: What a weird time to deploy this.
[SPEAKER_01]: Why are they fighting some sort of venom head?
[SPEAKER_01]: That's become a supreme intelligence.
[SPEAKER_01]: A little bit of a type of square or while Dylan Brock is trapped inside of it.
[SPEAKER_01]: But not drowning.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just a lot of stuff a lot of stuff a little too much.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I will say the last panel is fire lord landing on earth As a symbiote where the wearing a fireproof Carnage looking dude.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, which is fine to contradict you guys more stuff because it's like fire lord symbiote in fireproof suit like that has that identifier, but it is cool
[SPEAKER_02]: It's cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's too much going on.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I was like, why?
[SPEAKER_02]: I like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Give me that little part.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, what do we talk about queen and black defenders of light and dark?
[SPEAKER_01]: Because I do think, even though I still don't understand what's going on with dull or hell or when anybody wants out of anything else, I do like cloak and dagger.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I like this sort of exploration of them a little bit.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I do like these two teams.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, you were kicking over to me.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was kicking over to you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Dude, that was like, that's your big thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this is organized into teams, but I'm still not 100% sure that they're missions are like, I don't know, this is actually something also where
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe it should be more complicated or not necessarily more complicated, but like more exact versus all it really is right now is, hey, we are a team of Dark Force users and we're going to kill nulls but and the other team is like, we use light some of us and we're going to kick how is but and their whole mission is we're going to kick their butt which
[SPEAKER_01]: Well but not like it usually with this sort of thing is like we need to recover the ultimate nullifier to do the second thing that will do this third thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah and there's a reason that format works is because it gives you a signposts for these things throughout the series but instead they're like we're gonna kick hell as butt we have no problem getting to or here we are uh oh now we're fighting hell up.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I hear you there, but I do think I just thought this made more sense where there's these two teams kind of contrary and they're opposed in their basic core power set and values to these characters, they make sense they fight this felt like the mainline title of this.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was opposed to the other one that felt a little bit all over the place.
[SPEAKER_01]: I agree with you.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's a good observation and then added in you do get this emotional core of cloak and dagger They get some cool new costumes for the event.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's always nice
[SPEAKER_02]: And I like that there like your you've been shot through each of your aspects your connected aspects has been shot through and now you're blending with each other and I was like That's a cool idea of that's something that makes sense for these two characters who at this point they just love each other and they're happy together right there in there that are they married or they're at least in a relationship Yeah
[SPEAKER_02]: Because in another continuity, don't they have a kid?
[SPEAKER_02]: That was your thing, you have the age of revelation?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, that was in the future.
[SPEAKER_02]: Which was, I really liked that idea.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it feels like maybe we're on that timeline.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe?
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: Which could be cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll find out on our next Queen and Stack.
[SPEAKER_01]: Only the savages are left.
[SPEAKER_01]: Number three from Dark Horse Comics, written by Zach Kaplan, Art by Stefano Rafaeli.
[SPEAKER_01]: This takes place at a post-apocalypse where people turn into monsters.
[SPEAKER_01]: If they get blood on by other monsters, they can only stop it by killing somebody else.
[SPEAKER_01]: And right now, our main character has discovered that is girlfriend.
[SPEAKER_02]: girl that he likes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Girls that he, girl that he likes, they have a history pre-apocalypse.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's been infected, but also he's been infected.
[SPEAKER_01]: Lots of stuff going on there.
[SPEAKER_01]: What do you think about this?
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's, it's, the story moves so fast, like it, it's, makes sense why it's hard to recount exactly how it works, is they're just moving.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and then the, the story is, all those plot elements that you laid out are important, obviously.
[SPEAKER_02]: But the story really is about like, are you courageous, how has your life been?
[SPEAKER_02]: Can you step up in a time and in an end of the world situation, and,
[SPEAKER_02]: I like that, like putting all of the premise stuff, sort of out at the front, but that being like, forget all that.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's about these characters trying to figure out if they're brave enough, and can they be together at the same time that the world's falling apart.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: It feels like almost like a postmodern post-impocalyptic story in the way it's being told.
[SPEAKER_01]: It also feels, I don't remember, we talked to the team about this book, and I don't remember where they talked about this, but it feels a little like manga, attack on Titan coded, not in terms of the pace of this storytelling, but in terms of the plot.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're getting that a little bit, but man, Stefanera Refiles are just so gorgeous, the creature designs are great.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the infection is really gritty looking throughout so it's just and I like how it's different and how we really get to see it evolve and one of our main characters You get to see it move pretty quickly through him, which I thought was cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah Redcoat number 19 from Ghost Machine and image comics written by Jeff Shons art by Brian Hitch We are following this guy Simon Pure who is a mortal The immortal red coat of the title.
[SPEAKER_01]: He has a family and he's been living happily with them
[SPEAKER_01]: He told them his secret that he's immortal in the last issue and they left.
[SPEAKER_01]: He is trying to track down Benedict Arnold with Albert Einstein by a classic story.
[SPEAKER_02]: A story you heard.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and based on the cover, how do you think he's going?
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll tell you what, uh, by the end of the issue, boy, is it not going well?
[SPEAKER_01]: This is a brutal brutal brutal issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: And like I'll tell you what, like the last issue, I was like, ah, that's fucked up.
[SPEAKER_02]: But a new chapter has begun.
[SPEAKER_02]: His family has abandoned him naturally.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's immortal.
[SPEAKER_02]: He can't have this happiness, this stable happiness.
[SPEAKER_02]: Then you get a couple of pages in here and the family comes back and media.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, oh, interesting.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sort of a cheat.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sort of avoided the emotional set up, and then I will spoil the end of the issue here.
[SPEAKER_01]: They all get murdered.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's specifically like, oh my god, he murdered my wife, but you see the kids legs sticking it to frame because they've been murdered as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: uh... all the other hand and every issue i'm just like well we're getting a basically monthly book for bright hitch that's awesome because he's hard is so good and i i don't like the way the stories unfolding but it's really setting up for a boss battle of year between redco and uh... but in a tunnel that's going to be just epic and super upsetting so uh... good little rug pull you got a son that one i think
[SPEAKER_01]: New Titans number 38 from DC Comics written by Tate Bromble, Art by Sammy Bosery and Bruno Abdius.
[SPEAKER_01]: We actually talked to Tate Bromble on our live show this week about this book.
[SPEAKER_01]: So go and listen to the podcast.
[SPEAKER_01]: we're talking about other things but we uh... chatted a little bit about new titans as a approach there the big news this issue is that static is joining the team that is in a salvation of old titans and new titans for the title uh... and uh... doesn't go that well he's not quite sure if you want to join at the end but
[SPEAKER_01]: There is something else coming that will force him to be part of the team.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, he doesn't want to join because his powers are messed up, and he's sort of like lying essentially to be there.
[SPEAKER_02]: And we get a moment where he's exposed, but then it covers it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And there's a lot going on, I think.
[SPEAKER_02]: The two things that suck out to me based on talking to Tate.
[SPEAKER_02]: were number one you said is this your X-Men book and it's so is.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's such a layered like so many characters but balanced well where we get to really just ride with this big team and all of their intricate melodramas that they're having.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that parts really cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the second part that stuck with me is the static and superman friendship that is in this and John Kent friendship that's in this that does feel we get a huge taste of it in this issue and it feels like that's going to be by taste on words it will be very important going forward.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm really enjoying this like you were saying all the character dynamics are really good.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is a classic recruitment issue, but there's a lot of fun to be had here anyway.
[SPEAKER_01]: I like the focus on Yara Floor that's happening in the background as well, and this is going into a Amazon arc going forward, so that should be neat to see.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just really good stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: Plus you've got this ongoing mystery of what cyborg is doing with the heart of apocalypse, that's really good.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's got the lack going on in his basement.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Good stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: Definitely pick up this book.
[SPEAKER_01]: Next up, ultimate impact.
[SPEAKER_01]: Reborn number four from Marvel written by Chris Condon, Art by Stefano Caselli.
[SPEAKER_01]: These origin boxes that we mentioned.
[SPEAKER_01]: I forgot the day of it for some reason, but we're talking about the Avengers are beginning.
[SPEAKER_01]: Origin boxes have fallen into the Marvel Universe from the ultimate universe, various people have gotten powers.
[SPEAKER_01]: Meanwhile,
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, I'm blanking out his name.
[SPEAKER_01]: Large guy from the, I don't mean it's a, from the negative side.
[SPEAKER_02]: Ah, still a kiss.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hostile a kiss.
[SPEAKER_01]: I wanted to say a trotter to kiss, which I also can pronounce from D.C. A trotter to kiss.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hostile a kiss is working for this guy who is a media magnate who now has mind control powers.
[SPEAKER_01]: We find out this issue that one of the people that works for him got another of the origin boxes that gives her the ability
[SPEAKER_01]: see the evil in people, but also the fishes that are in the world.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a little bit of a weird power.
[SPEAKER_01]: Plus, we got to do Wonder Man in the mix there as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: Even a little down on this series, how are you feeling about issue 4?
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I like our girl who can see the fish.
[SPEAKER_02]: We get some good heroic moves from her and this.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think the art, the Stefano Casselli art is really cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: The Hustolicist feels like just a little bit of a placeholder villain.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's not really working for me in general.
[SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't just seem like this person's going to be beaten and then forgot.
[SPEAKER_02]: like I don't see a lot of story there, so that's the part, the Wonderman part of it I think it's cool and the sort of underlying, like, who's doing this?
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm interested in it's just, I guess just the Husty Look, it's part of this bothering.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is, I'm going to say something that's probably the most not actually most horrible thing I've ever said of the podcast, but we were talking about on our live show, I think somebody asked about.
[SPEAKER_02]: You already said the butthole from mouth
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, somebody of the live show, I believe last week, if I recall, was asking us about what people mean by editorial interference or when the editors are doing stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: And this to me feels like a little bit too many cooks in the kitchen thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if it's editors or what, Chris, when we talked to him about this book, definitely received or I think what I talked to him about this book, definitely was like, yeah, I ran with whatever ideas I want to run with, but the idea of
[SPEAKER_01]: we're introducing these new characters with old powers and also you got a center a legacy hero like Captain America in this issue or Punisher in the previous issue or Iron Man in the first issue um it's just too much like yeah like there's too much going out of the soup right now
[SPEAKER_01]: to really focus on anything when I do understand probably part of the idea is, hey, let's introduce the new Wonder Man that kind of looks like the Wonder Man on TV.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's not the cell as a series.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like that, that's not a five-ish series that's going to sell enough copies versus calling something ultimate impact report and that as Miles Morales, Iron Man and Captain America on the cover along with these characters' dobodies ever seen before that at least has an opportunity for sales.
[SPEAKER_01]: but I don't think it's leading to a better story.
[SPEAKER_01]: Is my problem right now?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I agree with you.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a little too much going on when we could, they core ideas are interesting.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's also interesting that this is happening at the same time we have the Avengers Armored Getton, which is also dealing with origin boxes, but they're not that these events aren't touching each other.
[SPEAKER_01]: right because this happens first.
[SPEAKER_01]: This happens before that and I don't know if there was an order of release thing or something like that because it does feel like this is the sort of series that be like these characters get powers and it gets out of control and then the Avengers can't deal with it and then we get a new Avengers.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's to be like, oh that seems like the path you're rocking but instead we're going to have one more issue of this and then who knows if we're going to see any of these characters ever again?
[SPEAKER_02]: right and i don't think if anything to your point this should feed into the larger event when it does feel just sort of like a and event where the characters that have the origin boxes here just weren't very powered up while the cap the 2000 cap they've called and it was super powered up but it's too much and this feels weirdly competitive rather than supporting each other.
[SPEAKER_01]: Tail Spin, number one from Dynamite, written by Amanda Dibert, Art by Carlo Laura.
[SPEAKER_01]: We had Amanda on the show a couple of weeks back.
[SPEAKER_01]: Go and listen to her talk about this book and talk more about Tail Spin.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna turn it over to Justin Tyler.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, yeah, I mean, I really raked over the calls about getting into the more political underpinnings of their original tailspin series, how they commented on the Cold War with Russia, the Russian Wardog characters.
[SPEAKER_02]: She wasn't having it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It makes sense because this book doesn't touch on those things at all, and is just a fun balloon and kit cloud kicker story, um, sad and the tailspin world.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, good art in here as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: Great.
[SPEAKER_01]: Arts for not a tail spin guy, but I thought there was really fun that character designs throughout and really dynamic panels.
[SPEAKER_01]: So if you're looking for a good all ages series, tail spin, a whew.
[SPEAKER_01]: the lucky devils number nine from image comics written by Charles soul art by Ryan Brown now this was supposed to be the final issue of the series because what there's actually going to be one more after that they extended it this is about a bunch of devils who have been manipulating events both on earth in order to affect hell and basically wreck it and destroy it
[SPEAKER_01]: But, our two humans start to fight back in this issue in a big way.
[SPEAKER_01]: I felt like the first half of this issue was a little messy and convoluted.
[SPEAKER_01]: There were a couple of too many things going on with the devils.
[SPEAKER_01]: But once we settled down and focused in our main humans again, the issue really snapped into place for me.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and got into like the way that R2 Devils Act was really, excuse me, I thought really well done.
[SPEAKER_02]: And, um,
[SPEAKER_02]: the all the killing that rate does I thought was really really well done and we got a guest star from letter 44 right it was the same president I believe right yeah yeah sad news and that front really but I do I'm so happy they're doing another issue because I was like
[SPEAKER_02]: But I first picked this up.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, I don't know how they're going to wrap.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's so much going on leading up to this issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, I don't know how they're going to wrap this up.
[SPEAKER_02]: And we get this sort of big blockbuster stuff in the first half of the issue that you mentioned where goodness is pouring into hell and it's like the ultimate natural disaster, which I think is a fun idea.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I'm who knows where it's going to go from here because a lot changes in this issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm curious with the landing place it's going to be.
[SPEAKER_01]: And of life, number seven from DC Comics, for Mike Kyle Starks, are at a by Steve Pughes, actually in Vertigo, Tignal should have mentioned that.
[SPEAKER_01]: But we're following a assassin who has headed home, been captured by a bunch of bad actors in town, while he has assassins killed.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's all there, also trying to hunt him down.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I love this series.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is your glasses.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's Salvin Special.
[SPEAKER_01]: It is a child in special because Kyle Starks just nails the humor Steve Pue's character designs are really funny and fun and unique throughout just the rhythm of the jokes is so good like we were talking about the fire brinstone thing being too packed.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is funny consistently on every page but it's the right amount of jokes paste out the way there's a sound late on and it's also coming out of the story.
[SPEAKER_01]: exactly at its very dark humor as well like to give you an example there's this guy who created this comic strip called wrong dog who got thrown in prison and he's there's this whole sequence about how he's basically running the prison now and I forgetting the word they use but there's this enormous bad that he's recruited who says something I believe in Spanish and he's like yeah and that
[SPEAKER_01]: uh... we don't like that either and we'll kill any of them and his compatriots like you know that means pedophiles right at the wrong dot guy's like oh what do you think he considers a pedophile yeah just like a crazy dark joke to throw in there but maybe laugh out loud and that's the first of many times of the issue yeah i don't know what a chomo is but i think it's some kind of Mexican candy and he's like uh... chomo's a pedophile
[SPEAKER_01]: uh... so there's that and then another thing that happens in this issue is our maiden character breaking out very easily from these two weird hillbillies or whatever they are like real master blaster stuff going on here
[SPEAKER_01]: with these characters are very easily, but then being unable to beat them at a fight because he's used to gunplay.
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought that was a very smart squad.
[SPEAKER_02]: Great.
[SPEAKER_02]: 100% I did not see that coming.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love the, we come into the scene of his being held hostage with just a,
[SPEAKER_02]: not quite a nine-panel grid, but a seven-panel grid of him just being beaten.
[SPEAKER_02]: We see the sock full of batteries coming down on him with him off-panel.
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought that was just really cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just great visual work throughout this entire book.
[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, a lot of fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: We get to see so many different smaller characters from the town that are all part of this.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't know, I really
[SPEAKER_01]: but I think that's good because we've had six issues so far where he takes care of his problems pretty easily like pretty much every one he finishes an issue so giving him something that he can't dispatch of quickly is a good thing for the life of the series I would say.
[SPEAKER_01]: The uncanny X-Men number 34 from Marvel written by Galsamo and Art by Luciano Vecchio, there's two things going on here, one back in Nolan's, the outliers and now the new mutants and they're being trained by Monet and Quicksilver and it's not going great.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's be honest, there's a little bit of a couple of hiccups going on there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Meanwhile, Gambit has been taken over by a dragon and in the theme of the week, Rogue is trying to exercise him.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, big week for Exorcism.
[SPEAKER_01]: Big week for Exorcism at Barrels, specifically.
[SPEAKER_02]: I like this.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's some just great imagery here.
[SPEAKER_02]: And a great bringing in the supporting cast.
[SPEAKER_02]: We just get to spend a little bit of time hanging out with the family that owns the house of the X-Men are living in, which is cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: We have gambit fighting centenals that have mouths in the center of there where they're like,
[SPEAKER_02]: laser light bits is in their solar plexus and that's awesome.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love that horrifying The one part and I like the stuff happening back at the house with Monet and there's a mutant that they find who's eaten
[SPEAKER_02]: or killed all of the hands in the henhouse.
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought that that stuff is such a small, great character work and we're getting into another what the next maybe storylines going to be.
[SPEAKER_02]: What do you think about the Monet Quick Silver relationship?
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm all right with it.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're both jerks, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: I like a two jerks together.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'd cure.
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to see it I want to see it a little bit.
[SPEAKER_02]: We spent so much time with the rogue and gamma being like, I love you so much I'll die again kill me so we can I can love you more
[SPEAKER_02]: And their relationship is sort of like, hey, it's my love over there.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love her.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, let me see a little bit of this.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, let's see.
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to see some species.
[SPEAKER_01]: I might want criticism here.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm enjoying everything that's going on.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is feeling a little fracture to me.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, we've been getting two stories running for most of the length of this book for a while.
[SPEAKER_01]: But here,
[SPEAKER_01]: I was this is my expectation, so maybe this is unfair comment, but I was really looking forward to Gambit and Rogue alone arc, like going off and really giving them a spotlight for three issues.
[SPEAKER_01]: or something like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: So whatever we cut back to New Orleans, it's a little jarring for me because the other stuff is such like, where on the mors and there's a rogue priest who's shouting at my dragon boyfriend.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's very epic.
[SPEAKER_01]: It really leads into the whole horror, X-Men ethos of this book.
[SPEAKER_01]: But then we go back to everybody being like, oh boy, we're running on this wood.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, uh, that's funny.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't mind the cut back and forth because I like both sides of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And honestly if this was pure just rogue and Gamp had be like this is so much of that at once.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I I conversely, I appreciate the cutbacks because it's so Gothic and so intense and gambling like I'm with her and I saw my our son today and he's wanting to be alive a die and I'm like, whoa, this is so intense.
[SPEAKER_02]: Give me a little bit of I want's this mooch.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I really like this new character introduced at the end We only get a couple panels with him, but he looks like a cool dude and he's a Meant and an exercise sizeer who yeah If specializes in mutants and he's like, oh, sick.
[SPEAKER_02]: Grab a number I'm actually with a patient right now and you see you know mutants
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, yeah, it is crazy that Gelsimon was like, I just introduced a cool exercise.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's got an iPad, and he's not quite with it with the Catholic Church.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now here is an entirely different exercise that's cool in an entirely different way.
[SPEAKER_02]: this guy's wearing like a super here.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like this guy's the next man.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's like he's wearing also only has one arm.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's interesting as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, this is cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's cool stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: With this point number two from Dark Horse Comics written by Heath Corson art by Sue Lee also based on a story by Nathan Philly et cetera, et cetera.
[SPEAKER_01]: We had Sulee on the show and she talked about her approach to this book a little bit as well if you want to go listen to it.
[SPEAKER_01]: But this is about a town where pretty much everybody is in witness relocation.
[SPEAKER_01]: Also there's a bunch of clowns that we don't see too many in the clowns this particular issue.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we've got the police chief and a fad are investigating a murder mystery.
[SPEAKER_01]: where everybody is a suspect.
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought this issue did a nice job of delving further into the town and giving us some nice back stories for some of the criminals who would put their really complicating the morality of everything.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I agree with you.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love the backstory cutaways where we get to see how these people, what crimes they committed and how they're just being normal.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think Sulee does a great job of making them look so different, like they've gone to see it a little bit and what their data day.
[SPEAKER_02]: How their day-to-day has visually changed the way they look.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that really brings the theme
[SPEAKER_02]: And we're going to get it feels like there's a lot about identity and sort of how we change ourselves and who we are and if we can change It feels like the next issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to get our main characters changing their identities as well to help their case.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's cool Do you think the sheriff is also in witness protection?
[SPEAKER_02]: I would think so.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's a great later reveal, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, probably.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was just getting a feel for that this issue, the way that they were laid out.
[SPEAKER_01]: But this is good.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is a good mystery series so far.
[SPEAKER_01]: Why don't we talk about if destruction be our lot number four from image comics written by Matthew and Mark Lysher Rosenberg, art by Andy McDonald's.
[SPEAKER_01]: takes place in a far future where we think only robots have survived however robotic Abraham Lincoln has discovered a human is alive lost track of her and really got on the spark last issue which is just
[SPEAKER_01]: electrical drugs as robots are want to do, I don't remember if you felt this way, I think I was a little critical of the last issue for setting up this and we're about to go on a grand adventure thing and then completely backing away from it or the previous issue, they get back on track this issue and I'm back on board.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, and I think the thing that pushes our Abraham Lincoln off-track is just a crippling drug addiction.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I thought that was well done.
[SPEAKER_02]: The great visuals in this.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think I actually think it helps us on the journey that it is so variegated, it's so like twinding.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a winding path that this Abraham Lincoln is following to get to finding this truth about the humans,
[SPEAKER_02]: I like all the different encounters, like short little scenes with different robots where he's like, do you have you seen a human and they're like, get away from me and other different versions of that is cool again visually stunning and I like the we get to the surface we get to reality of the earth that would happen at the end of this issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: very cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love that advancement.
[SPEAKER_02]: Perfect timing in my mind.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I know you said this, but I'll just back up any McDonald's art is gorgeous.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just the designs that he can draw so many different types of robots as well and make it all very clear what's going on.
[SPEAKER_01]: Great stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Wonder Woman, number 36 from DC Comics, written by Stephanie Williams, art by Clayton Harnley, this is the second part of an interlude arc that is found Trinity and Steve Trevor traveling through the underworld.
[SPEAKER_01]: And while they do, Steve Trevor is telling, Wonder Woman's origin to a daughter who was never here in it from her dad.
[SPEAKER_01]: Man, I know I said this last issue, but Clayton Harnley's art is so good in this art, it is just gorgeous.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it really is working as an interlude where we're getting just a sneaky little origin story in here, like the full Wonder Woman origin though.
[SPEAKER_02]: We've seen a couple different ways, but it's like it makes sense to have the retelling here, right, in the middle of this big story.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's that's really nice.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love the
[SPEAKER_02]: the parent to daughter connection in both the interlude and then in the the wrap round story as well as is so palpable it's so nice so heartfelt and you really get to see you want Roman become one or woman yet again.
[SPEAKER_01]: Agreed.
[SPEAKER_01]: Vampirates number two for boobs to just bring by friend Van Lenty, art by Luco Pizarre.
[SPEAKER_01]: We talked a couple of months back about this title, but you could probably figure out what it's about.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's about vampire pirates.
[SPEAKER_01]: The last issue Queen of the Vampirers was tricked and driven out from her throne.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's hiding out on a pirate ship.
[SPEAKER_01]: We get to meet the denizens of that pirate ship.
[SPEAKER_01]: This issue and find out how they're not like regular vampires.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're cool vampires.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we get some other iterations on sort of what the sea does to other vampires and all of that.
[SPEAKER_02]: But good the art is really night feels like very different.
[SPEAKER_02]: It has a little bit of a come-to-me mark baggly field to it to me.
[SPEAKER_02]: But really paying off on the vampire pirates.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, from talking to Fred, he's got one million ideas for this thing and you could just feel it bursting at the seams at the ad, particularly this issue where it's like idea idea idea and he's really good at that stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's fun to see that and I think it plays out nicely if you're looking for a new swashbuckling series to jump on jump on them.
[SPEAKER_02]: Are you looking to swashbuckle, swashbuckle, swashbuckle, swashbuckle?
[SPEAKER_02]: Get on board, man.
[SPEAKER_01]: Last but not least, something epic number 14 for image comics by Simon Kajranski.
[SPEAKER_01]: We are following an epic who is somebody who understands the fictional world and can interact with it as well as create things.
[SPEAKER_01]: Teeming up to solve the death of Dracula alongside a Howard the Duck standin.
[SPEAKER_01]: They have gone to basically epic dark universe land, the new theme park.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're all the monsters from Universal are together at the same time.
[SPEAKER_01]: Not actually that, but they've gone to the monster lab to solve it and this issue, they interrogate the wolf man who's living in a hole and some other stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: What do you think, Jess?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, there's, you know, this book is so weird.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sometimes I'm very charmed by how weird it is.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sometimes it pulls me straight out of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: But Simon Goodreads his art is epic and it's so the like just reds and blacks when we meet the wolf man It's so the Disney's beauty in the beast beast like he looks like him.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's sort of being like Get out of here.
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to be alone.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sad
[SPEAKER_01]: Which is is fun, but the how are the duck they just really I just don't it's there be more this issue You had mentioned it in the last issue and I was okay with it It threw me more here the other thing the threw me not to bet harp on this all episode log But also like a couple too many jokes if this is like the main characters like oh boy I can't stop making jokes about these monsters.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying but I really cannot
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just too easy, and I'm like, maybe stop, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I just, when characters talk about making jokes, I'm like, while they're making jokes and like, don't do that.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's, I don't like what I mean with jokes.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, that is it for the stack.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to start drawing some of these but whole mouth characters.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think this is a real win.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, all you know about it.
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