[SPEAKER_03]: Welcome to Drinking Throw.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, well, we're drinking bro's kids.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's Tuesday.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's about, I don't know, 90 degrees here, Anthony, but the chance of snow up at Penn State is very, very high.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, I know.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're in the northeast and I know the weather patterns are different.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're down here at the beach Getting lightning storms and electricity outages and all those stuff that's going across the Midwest and the rest of the south But I was unaware that it was snowing at Penn State especially this hard
[SPEAKER_03]: My god, man.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is one of the crazy stories I've ever heard.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm disappointed that I missed out on this specific blizzard.
[SPEAKER_03]: I am too.
[SPEAKER_03]: I like after Trump got in, cocaine disappeared.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's been what?
[SPEAKER_03]: Two years since we've even seen it, or anybody's had it or anything.
[SPEAKER_03]: I haven't seen anybody with it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Listeners, nobody, nothing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Which I guess is for the best, but
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, occasionally, it's nice to hear a story like this and that people are still partying, living their life, and then just becoming young entrepreneurs.
[SPEAKER_03]: Look, what is this clip right here?
[SPEAKER_03]: Because all of this is kind of breaking right now, as of 37 minutes ago, the Kingpin of this operation of the kids of the fraternity, Solancho King, and distributed it with their dad.
[SPEAKER_03]: Just took a mug shots, play this clip right here.
[SPEAKER_04]: What we learned during this investigation was between 2023 and 2024.
[SPEAKER_04]: Large amounts of cocaine, kilos were brought from Philadelphia and New York to state college, where they were cut and packaged for sale primarily to Penn State students.
[SPEAKER_04]: The two main dealers, the top of the chain, if you will, were senior members of the Delta Upsilon and Sigma Chi fraternities.
[SPEAKER_04]: Agustino Abatillo was at the very top of the chain.
[SPEAKER_04]: Thomas Robinson was a rung below that on the ladder.
[SPEAKER_04]: And this poster here shows operation drugs unlimited and it shows the hierarchy of the organization.
[SPEAKER_04]: The evidence presented to the grand jury led to a recent presentment and recommendation of charges against 14 defendants.
[SPEAKER_04]: The evidence showed that cocaine was primarily packaged at the fraternity houses, and that packaging was done by fraternity brothers and often time pledges.
[SPEAKER_04]: In fact, we found a pattern of events that showed cutting and bagging cocaine was for some pledges and indoctrination into the Delta Upsilar and Ansema Kai fraternity.
[SPEAKER_03]: Love to see it, love to see it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now you went to Penn State, Anthony.
[SPEAKER_03]: Did you have to package and cut cocaine just to go to school there?
[SPEAKER_03]: No.
[SPEAKER_10]: Okay, I would have, but for the love of the game, you don't have to, you don't have to,
[SPEAKER_10]: Hey me any here here's my biggest problem with this.
[SPEAKER_10]: I think this guy that this is the Pennsylvania Attorney General right that ball dude on maybe.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, maybe.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, um, so
[SPEAKER_10]: Well, and one of his interviews, because one of the people that gets indicted for this is one of these guys, Dads, who was allegedly interfering with the investigation after the fact.
[SPEAKER_10]: And he was like, Dad, he was trying to get a son out of trouble and that's completely unacceptable.
[SPEAKER_10]: Why is that unacceptable?
[SPEAKER_10]: The guy, he didn't murder anybody.
[SPEAKER_10]: He's a matter of fact.
[SPEAKER_10]: I'm looking at their crime reports right now.
[SPEAKER_10]: There hasn't been a single cocaine overdose on Penn State's campus since these kids were in college.
[SPEAKER_10]: So we're fucking scared.
[SPEAKER_10]: We're fucking scared.
[SPEAKER_10]: Who's fucking scared?
[SPEAKER_10]: This guy is trying to run from for some other office, what's really happening is his hair is running away from his fucking forehead right now.
[SPEAKER_10]: Who cares about any of this?
[SPEAKER_10]: He's like, oh, we get it.
[SPEAKER_10]: We are arrested to want your kids and ruined their lives for something that hurt no one.
[SPEAKER_10]: Get fucked.
[SPEAKER_10]: You fucking loser.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, considering the fact that there was zero overdoses or anything like that, it sounds like they were saving lives by providing a clean drug that things are going to be done.
[SPEAKER_03]: Just having a fun party, go to your DM's here.
[SPEAKER_03]: So they just released a mugshot of the Agustino Aboletto kid, that's him.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, dear God, if you're watching this on Patreon today, this looks like an extra from revenge of the nerds.
[SPEAKER_03]: This almost seems like a fake photo from Grock.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, his shnaz is made for cocaine, man.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, fuck it, it's dude.
[SPEAKER_03]: I bet she was pounded eight balls.
[SPEAKER_03]: Breaking what was Charlie Sheen saying breaking it grandma rock stood every fucking night Look at that guy's hunker Man, can he take down some cocaine?
[SPEAKER_03]: It was born for it sure was maybe it was happening time Maybe it's labeling here, but there's saying this is a whole cocaine trafficking ring Okay, this Agustino Aboletto guy Dean's List
[SPEAKER_03]: smarts.
[SPEAKER_03]: Describes himself as having a passion for numbers and financial story telling.
[SPEAKER_03]: Any good coke dealers should.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's all I want out of my coke dealer is a passion for numbers and somebody who's good at telling financial stories.
[SPEAKER_10]: What is the point of the law?
[SPEAKER_10]: Can you
[SPEAKER_10]: to protect people from being abused, right, early, right, in both directions by other people and by the government.
[SPEAKER_10]: Who is abused?
[SPEAKER_10]: So who, I'm sorry, who's the fucking victim of this so-called crime, exactly?
[SPEAKER_10]: Who's the victim?
[SPEAKER_10]: But nobody got hurt, apparently.
[SPEAKER_03]: No.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I give too high.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if I'm talking to anyone.
[SPEAKER_03]: I doubt it.
[SPEAKER_10]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_10]: You don't get arrested for potential.
[SPEAKER_03]: So they did it in our school like the cops who go around on and the helicopters during the winter time Whatever roof was melted.
[SPEAKER_03]: They knew that they were growing.
[SPEAKER_03]: God growing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Excuse me hydroponic weed in there So they would look at the top of the roofs and they were like all right energies through the roof
[SPEAKER_03]: Snow is melted and those are the dudes who there's probably weed in those houses and it broke it up for I want to say a year there and then after that There was obviously other ways around it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Who's in this photo right here, Bluke?
[SPEAKER_03]: That's the the dad who got busted as well.
[SPEAKER_10]: Okay, now was he the guy that was bringing in the cocaine He was he was interfering trying to get a son out of trouble after the fact
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, and that's the kid right there in the middle who looks kind of like Larry Bird, presumably yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, who's the dude on the right?
[SPEAKER_03]: That's just them too, I think, again.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's a two of them together.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's really changed his hairstyle.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you don't go from Larry Bird to, uh, kind of high and tight like that.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's a, that's kind of a politician haircut now.
[SPEAKER_03]: Unless it's just been that long, uh, but yeah, dude, that's fucking wild.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm looking at the rest of this, um, Pennsylvania Attorney General sets.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh my god, you're not going to believe his name.
[SPEAKER_03]: Dave Sunday.
[SPEAKER_03]: Just Dave sunday.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's all it is.
[SPEAKER_03]: Dude, his name is Dave sunday.
[SPEAKER_03]: This guy right here.
[SPEAKER_03]: The bald guy's name is Dave sunday, which sounds made up announced that Agustino Abatillo, however pronounced that 24 surrendered Tuesday morning was arranged on numerous felony charges, including multiple counts of possession with intent.
[SPEAKER_03]: to deliver cocaine and conspiracy, a judge did deny him bail and he was taken into custody.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's won a 14 people charge following an investigation by the Pennsylvania Attorney General's office and then state college police, which is at Penn State University and the 54th statewide investigating
[SPEAKER_03]: grand jury, according to the investigators, Aboleto and then this Thomas Robinson guy allegedly serves as the primary suppliers of the operation and authorities alleged the drugs were brought back to state college where cocaine was cut and packaged primarily by the fraternity members.
[SPEAKER_03]: who distributed to Penn State students.
[SPEAKER_03]: So maybe that's what they're going for there is that they got the pledges to cut the code.
[SPEAKER_10]: No, that has nothing to do with it.
[SPEAKER_10]: The people just don't like drugs.
[SPEAKER_10]: That's all it is.
[SPEAKER_10]: And there's some fucking, I'm gonna treat you nicely for now, even though you're acting like a fucking cunt.
[SPEAKER_10]: D-T-A-Y-1776, that's very patriotic of you.
[SPEAKER_10]: How can someone that preaches men being better stronghold
[SPEAKER_10]: arguments about young men's slinging dope.
[SPEAKER_10]: What about this is making young men better?
[SPEAKER_10]: Where did I argue that?
[SPEAKER_10]: Where did I went?
[SPEAKER_10]: At what point did I find you can play the tape back you dumb bitch?
[SPEAKER_10]: What point did I say that this was good for them to do?
[SPEAKER_10]: What I said was who's the fucking victim?
[SPEAKER_10]: A victim is required for a crime to have been committed.
[SPEAKER_10]: The victim cannot be yourself, and it cannot be the fucking state, okay?
[SPEAKER_10]: That's how our jurisprudence is designed to work.
[SPEAKER_10]: All these extra laws that are fucking dumped on top of us have nothing to do with shit.
[SPEAKER_10]: So I didn't say they, I didn't, what, what, what, what?
[SPEAKER_10]: You said championing these harmless crimes as wild.
[SPEAKER_10]: What harm, exactly?
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, the crime is cocaine.
[SPEAKER_03]: So no, that means against the law.
[SPEAKER_10]: Now, that is a faith law.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's a real law.
[SPEAKER_03]: You can get arrested before it's kind of arrested for it.
[SPEAKER_10]: A law.
[SPEAKER_10]: a law that criminalizes something must require a victim.
[SPEAKER_10]: That is it.
[SPEAKER_10]: What was the purpose of the law again?
[SPEAKER_10]: To prevent abuse.
[SPEAKER_10]: So if someone's not getting fucking abused, what's the crime?
[SPEAKER_10]: Explain that to me.
[SPEAKER_10]: Detay 1776, and you're so versed on our jurisprudence and constitution.
[SPEAKER_10]: Go ahead.
[SPEAKER_10]: Motherfucker, write down whatever stupid shit you're gonna say now.
[SPEAKER_10]: That is a dumb opinion, frankly.
[SPEAKER_10]: Now you can be against it personally.
[SPEAKER_10]: Here's what you do, don't do it.
[SPEAKER_10]: If you don't like something personally, don't fucking do it.
[SPEAKER_10]: If you don't wanna gay married, don't get gay married.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's fucking easy.
[SPEAKER_10]: I don't do things all the time.
[SPEAKER_10]: Look at, I'm not doing so many things right now.
[SPEAKER_10]: I'm only doing the one thing, I'm sitting here.
[SPEAKER_10]: That's fucking sweet.
[SPEAKER_10]: Shut the fuck up with the stupid, statist bullshit.
[SPEAKER_10]: What do you need somebody to fucking manage your day-to-day routine to?
[SPEAKER_10]: Like, oh, fucking life's too hard.
[SPEAKER_10]: I can't make decisions.
[SPEAKER_10]: Let's get the state in here and tell me what to do.
[SPEAKER_10]: Fuck off with that stupid bullshit.
[SPEAKER_03]: But there is a crime, and there's not that you can do it.
[SPEAKER_03]: But in authority is accused of attempting to conceal evidence, including a safe, allegedly containing drugs and cash, and then obstructing the investigation.
[SPEAKER_10]: Another, that's another fake crime.
[SPEAKER_10]: Why would that be a crime?
[SPEAKER_10]: You're not, you can't be forced to participate in your own incrimination, can you?
[SPEAKER_03]: It depends on if they force the kids who are pledges to cut and distribute the cocaine.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, I mean, look, I play a bunch of fraternity like joining fraternity is is not a fucking human right is it?
[SPEAKER_10]: No, but I mean, if they choose to go somewhere when you're there, they can't make you do anything.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, you could leave.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_10]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_10]: You could leave.
[SPEAKER_03]: Walk out.
[SPEAKER_03]: And the guys that were charged Thomas Michael Robinson, 23 Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania,
[SPEAKER_02]: named after two.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and then Mohamed.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: Cliff would be pretty rough since he's dead.
[SPEAKER_03]: Mohamed, uh, like a rob-by 22 of sea caucus.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't see caucus jersey.
[SPEAKER_03]: Paul Robinson 59.
[SPEAKER_03]: So that's the dad.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's the father of suspect Thomas Robinson charged with felony tampering, hindering apprehension, uh, for taken steps to conceal evidence, including a safe
[SPEAKER_03]: and obstructing the investigation.
[SPEAKER_10]: Here, I just don't care about any of this.
[SPEAKER_10]: I don't know why this is even like this is the biggest story.
[SPEAKER_10]: Go, maybe it's a slow news day or something.
[SPEAKER_10]: But this is not for us.
[SPEAKER_10]: We would talk about this because it's funny to be honest.
[SPEAKER_10]: But on the front page, it's like the second article on Fox News.
[SPEAKER_10]: Why?
[SPEAKER_10]: Some kids did drugs in college, and this is a fucking, it's a catastrophe.
[SPEAKER_10]: What are we gonna do?
[SPEAKER_10]: Jesus Christ, man, just the way we, all the other shit that we have going on in the world right now.
[SPEAKER_10]: And this is like this fucking bald retard is on television, like it's unacceptable for this dad to try to keep his son's life from getting completely ruined at 22 get fucked dude.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to send you this piece here.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is from Go to your DMs, their Luke.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's see what the local news has to say about this.
[SPEAKER_03]: I've watched it up there.
[SPEAKER_03]: The operation was under the name Operation Drugs on Limited.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's fun.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's a flirty one there.
[SPEAKER_03]: If it's unlimited, where are they trying to limit the drugs?
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's bullshit.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_10]: And even they ran out of cocaine.
[SPEAKER_10]: Even they know they're full of shit.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then what's that's the name of the company?
[SPEAKER_03]: And then attorney general Dave Sunday did announce that there's 14 people that are going to face charges.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, yeah, press fly on this local clip.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's see what they have to say.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm Jeterra McGee live on the breaking news desk tracking a cocaine trafficking operation uncovered at Penn State with more than a dozen people now facing charges.
[SPEAKER_00]: We told you back in 2024 that this man here, Thomas Robinson of Pittsburgh was facing drug charges, but we're just now getting a bigger picture of what the attorney general called an organized drug trafficking operation.
[SPEAKER_00]: at Penn State.
[SPEAKER_00]: This could happen.
[SPEAKER_00]: Penn State officials said sigma chi is not a recognized organization at the university, and Delta Upsilon has now been placed on suspension.
[SPEAKER_00]: They added criminal activity, including hazing, such as this, has no place in our institution, and we will cooperate with law enforcement in any way we can.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, 14 hazing, hazing.
[SPEAKER_10]: If you walked in, like there's there's hazing,
[SPEAKER_10]: There's weird shit that happens in the military fraternity, in firehouses, stuff like this.
[SPEAKER_10]: If you walk in and there's a full-blown criminal enterprise going on, that is not hazing.
[SPEAKER_10]: You have joined a criminal enterprise.
[SPEAKER_10]: People that are fucking trying to get made in the mob are not getting hazed, mother fucker, no, they're fucking trying to be crime, they're trying to be crime, that's their whole thing.
[SPEAKER_10]: Who fucking cares about any of this shit?
[SPEAKER_10]: I mean, obviously, if you're a fucking, if you're in college, probably don't start a vast criminal conspiracy that's by the way, enter state, so it's now its federal, you fucking retard, right?
[SPEAKER_10]: There were driving in New York and picking up kilos of cocaine and driving them back to state college and cut them up and then sell it to the students.
[SPEAKER_10]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_10]: That's, I guess, do what you want, but you realize what you're fucking doing.
[SPEAKER_10]: You got damn idiot.
[SPEAKER_10]: 14 is a lot of people though.
[SPEAKER_10]: That's a lot of fucking people.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's too many to keep a secret.
[SPEAKER_10]: That's for sure.
[SPEAKER_10]: But that's, that's what I was thinking.
[SPEAKER_03]: I need drug dealers and college.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was usually two to three times.
[SPEAKER_10]: I don't know how they first found out about it.
[SPEAKER_10]: My guess is that kid that first, that guy they just had up on the screen there was he probably flipped because he was the first one I got arrested.
[SPEAKER_10]: Um,
[SPEAKER_10]: But that balled attorney general, turd, was saying on Fox this morning that, yeah, this turd right here was saying on far, I'm protecting people, I'm protecting, look at the dimple of my tie.
[SPEAKER_10]: He was saying this morning that they had sent in CIs to buy from them.
[SPEAKER_10]: So it wasn't just that guy.
[SPEAKER_10]: They confirmed it through CIs who made purchases and shoot like that.
[SPEAKER_10]: It wasn't, I still think they had to get on to it at some point somehow.
[SPEAKER_10]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe he was set up like New Jack City in the basement where they were buck naked.
[SPEAKER_03]: They were in chairs and then you couldn't hide the cocaine everywhere and then they would check your asshole once an hour.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's how they did it in New Jack City.
[SPEAKER_03]: So maybe they did the same thing.
[SPEAKER_10]: Young college kids selling coke turns into not good men.
[SPEAKER_10]: That's the victim we were looking for, the future of young men.
[SPEAKER_10]: Here's what you need to learn how to do.
[SPEAKER_10]: Listen and read.
[SPEAKER_10]: Okay, the victim cannot be yourself.
[SPEAKER_10]: Your body is your property.
[SPEAKER_10]: You're allowed to do whatever the fuck you want with it And nobody can criminalize that go fuck yourself Learn like what the fuck books have you been reading?
[SPEAKER_10]: What what have you been paying attention to?
[SPEAKER_10]: I mean since for 2,500 years the standard and Western civilization has been at the ultimate property as a one-self your body, right?
[SPEAKER_10]: That's it
[SPEAKER_10]: this idea of the household, the oco's that begins with you and then extends to your mother and then whatever the process of kin selections they call it.
[SPEAKER_10]: No, I'm not wrong.
[SPEAKER_10]: You're fucking stupid.
[SPEAKER_10]: opinion is Jack is so stupid.
[SPEAKER_10]: A crime requires a victim.
[SPEAKER_10]: The victim cannot to be yourself and it cannot be the state.
[SPEAKER_10]: You cannot commit crimes against a non-perhuman entity that is not a thing.
[SPEAKER_10]: Now if it's a registered organization like a business and you defraught it, that's a crime, but the government doesn't have that right.
[SPEAKER_03]: But if cocaine is illegal, in the state of Pennsylvania, I'm not saying crime.
[SPEAKER_10]: I'm not saying there isn't a crime on the
[SPEAKER_10]: that makes no sense, that is not what the law is for.
[SPEAKER_10]: You ask anybody the question, what's the law for?
[SPEAKER_10]: What is it designed to do?
[SPEAKER_10]: And they will all answer the same way.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's designed to protect people.
[SPEAKER_10]: To protect people from what?
[SPEAKER_10]: Not themselves, you can't make a law that gets between me and my own decisions.
[SPEAKER_10]: That's not fucking constitutional in any meaningful way, but this, this is how it is, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: What they're reporting is that the parents of other students at Penn State was pissed off.
[SPEAKER_10]: Parents who's children chose to do something, adults by the way, because they're all 18 or older.
[SPEAKER_10]: The chose to do something, that's not a victim.
[SPEAKER_03]: And unless there's a doogie house are there, it's 14, maybe delivering babies to, I don't know, if you were that smart, you wouldn't be going to Penn State.
[SPEAKER_03]: You never know.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a good school.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's a good school.
[SPEAKER_11]: So the, the dad, Paul Robinson is charged with felony tampering, hindering apprehension for taking steps to conceal evidence in the case, including a safe stuff with cash and drugs and obstructing the investigation federal prosecutors said,
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, I wonder what that was, like somebody had to rat him out unless they have video surveillance of him like walking out with a safe under his arm or some shit.
[SPEAKER_03]: Or if he was doing the cocaine immediately after it was cut, I think that would be...
[SPEAKER_10]: I don't think he's got anything to do with the drugs.
[SPEAKER_10]: He just tried to hide evidence.
[SPEAKER_10]: That's what the charge is, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm looking at his picture now, pop this up.
[SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't look like a cocaine.
[SPEAKER_03]: This guy, look at his name.
[SPEAKER_10]: He looks like a coars-light watch football in the weekends, kind of go at him.
[SPEAKER_03]: I, but you still need a power rail to come back for those night games, man.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, those SEC games at 730 on ESPN are gonna get you.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, you're going to be staying up to 1130, a gator tail at that hour, this guy's on it too.
[SPEAKER_03]: I get check his system, I guarantee he's been doing cocaine.
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's going to start up in two weeks here when Penn State football starts.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I got a new coach this year.
[SPEAKER_03]: New quarterback, new every thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're going to need a couple of rails to kind of get you back into the year there.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just happy to hear about cocaine back in America again.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's been a long time.
[SPEAKER_03]: I know.
[SPEAKER_03]: Jesus Christ has saved us up in New York.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, that's right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Expect it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I expect it to come out of the crime families out of there.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's the only place that I would trust.
[SPEAKER_10]: O.C.
[SPEAKER_10]: is dealt more each over the years than cocaine, but that may be.
[SPEAKER_03]: I've never dipped in a heroin.
[SPEAKER_10]: Things are very different now than they used to be with organized crime and the Northeast.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, I mean, and we look, we had a similar situational highest set.
[SPEAKER_03]: Every school's got one, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: Every school's got a drug dealer.
[SPEAKER_03]: Ars just happened to be very bright.
[SPEAKER_03]: He wasn't in our fraternity or anything, but very, very smart guy went on to make a lot of money in this life, set up a fake catering license.
[SPEAKER_03]: got an LLC at 19 years old and the catering license allowed him to get nitrous tanks.
[SPEAKER_03]: So you get two 75 pound tanks at 6 a.m. every Saturday morning he would drop those all off over a campus.
[SPEAKER_03]: He had a black book none of these people were ever connected to him and then on his graduation day he sold that black book for $25,000 so the next drug dealer he had a client list he got
[SPEAKER_03]: It wasn't even a drug user.
[SPEAKER_03]: He was just a really smart fucking guy dude.
[SPEAKER_11]: Have you guys heard the story of White House White House.
[SPEAKER_11]: On you know, I think it's called it's the the
[SPEAKER_11]: a dark net a website where everybody would go to buy drugs and for the White House, no, it's just called White House.
[SPEAKER_11]: Um, and uh, so that it was these like two guys, I think they started this website and they were, they
[SPEAKER_03]: In fact, that movie juice, you got to know the ledge.
[SPEAKER_03]: And unfortunately, nobody knows, these guys were close.
[SPEAKER_03]: These guys were this close, man.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then Dave Sunday came in and ruined the whole goddamn thing.
[SPEAKER_10]: No, he, he, this is after the fact.
[SPEAKER_10]: This is after they knew they were being investigate.
[SPEAKER_10]: He tried to, had to try to hide evidence.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, but these kids are all graduated now.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're like 24, 25 years.
[SPEAKER_10]: This happens before they graduate.
[SPEAKER_10]: His crime too, all of them.
[SPEAKER_10]: no no this i don't know what took the indictment so long to be honest i was gonna say why didn't this make the news then a couple years ago only the one kid got who got arrested in twenty three or twenty four uh... made the news and then the rest of it i don't know why it would take that line to build that particular case uh... here's why um... and sorry this is breaking in the background reco charges
[SPEAKER_03]: So they're going out to Rico charges on this ship.
[SPEAKER_10]: I mean, that's not why though.
[SPEAKER_10]: That's not even necessary from that standpoint of if you have people tied to the single, it's not yet for Rico you have to show past present and future crimes.
[SPEAKER_10]: past present future which means intent into the future which is why they use it against organized crime because you get somebody on one of your members was arrested for drug trafficking and you know that he has a boss who ordered and you can substantiate that that's one predicate.
[SPEAKER_10]: And then you arrest him again for, I don't know, like, attempted murder or something like that.
[SPEAKER_10]: That's the second, that's the, the present, predicate.
[SPEAKER_10]: And then the future predicate is, they're part of an ongoing criminal enterprise.
[SPEAKER_10]: Here's a piece of conspiracy that they're planning on doing something to the future.
[SPEAKER_10]: Now you have a solid Rico case.
[SPEAKER_10]: Why apply to this?
[SPEAKER_10]: You've only got the one drug trafficking operation, right?
[SPEAKER_10]: If they try to run Rico against this and say that the conspiracy to conceal after the fact that's not good enough, they're not going to get a conviction on that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, they got two fraternities right now.
[SPEAKER_03]: So maybe this was headed into the future.
[SPEAKER_03]: The one was that's still just Cartesian on campus.
[SPEAKER_10]: That's still just conspiracy to traffic, though.
[SPEAKER_10]: That's not that's not Rico.
[SPEAKER_10]: They're saying they're going to charge them with Rico.
[SPEAKER_10]: What are the predicates?
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: Go to your DMs, Luke.
[SPEAKER_03]: They got the guys in for giving me again.
[SPEAKER_03]: All of this is going on right now in the background.
[SPEAKER_03]: So photos that you're about to see are of the Penn State students and others involved in the trafficking cocaine through threats to the student body on campus.
[SPEAKER_03]: The individuals below.
[SPEAKER_03]: So these guys that you have on screen here, Luke, are the ones charged with felony corrupt organizations, which is the Pennsylvania equivalent of RICO, conspiracy, and dealing and proceeds of unlawful activity, this guy in the, in the,
[SPEAKER_03]: and Twitter.
[SPEAKER_03]: All of them are innocent and so proven guilty.
[SPEAKER_03]: I like that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We're not giving a financial advice here.
[SPEAKER_03]: One suspect is still being sought after by authorities here.
[SPEAKER_10]: doesn't say who it is I might be the guy they just got arrested 10 minutes ago so yeah that's what looks like it's the nerdy guy the nerdy guy we showed earlier just got pops so i mean they may have just arrested it for looking like that beyond us yeah as soon as i saw my thought we should probably do something i don't know what he looks like uh... beaker
[SPEAKER_03]: They got a good comparison here.
[SPEAKER_10]: Can you get a picture of him next to Beaker?
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, hang on.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's trending right now.
[SPEAKER_03]: Beaker got the iPhone Super Troopers.
[SPEAKER_10]: Now, Beaker was built in honey do as a sous chef, I believe, or lab assistant.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, lab assistant.
[SPEAKER_10]: The lab assistant.
[SPEAKER_03]: But if you look, if you go to your DM, as they've got him packed for the guy from Super Troopers, which pretty much looks identical.
[SPEAKER_10]: Way to go, Internet.
[SPEAKER_10]: That guy does something I were talking about.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, but that's the guy without the glasses.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that resemblance is pretty uncanny, but you don't know for sure.
[SPEAKER_03]: I know, apparently that's what that kid looks like without the glasses.
[SPEAKER_03]: If I were him, I'd go without the glasses for Chris.
[SPEAKER_10]: Well, that guy was married to that girl with the big titties from Madman for years.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, Christina Hendrix.
[SPEAKER_10]: I have no idea what her name is.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, here's the other character that he looks like right here.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, there you go.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, same guy, and his name is Beaker, so let's face it.
[SPEAKER_03]: If you're doing cocaine and you're going to traffic it through the universities, you're probably going to use a Beaker to, for this, man, the Netflix stock on this and fucking,
[SPEAKER_03]: six months is going to be awesome.
[SPEAKER_10]: The good news is they're not going to have that ugly ass nerd like they'll have something better look at than this.
[SPEAKER_10]: Look at him put them put them next to each other, figure it out.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think they put the glasses on this kid just for the mug shot so that way when it went out it may can look more innocent because in the other one he didn't have even even his mouth configuration is going in the same direction.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_10]: As a matter of fact he looks more like a beaker than beaker does.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is a smart move by his lawyers there to put them in the glasses and sheds.
[SPEAKER_03]: I like that, let's see, again, this is all coming out right now.
[SPEAKER_03]: This was a coordinated and highly profitable drug trafficking crew revolving around two senior members of the fraternities, other fraternity brothers and pledges.
[SPEAKER_03]: In fact, according to the evidence uncovered, cutting and packaging cocaine was for some pledges and indoctrination into the fraternities, so they were making them do it.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I don't get into the fraternities.
[SPEAKER_10]: They're not making them do anything.
[SPEAKER_10]: They told them that a condition of getting in is doing that.
[SPEAKER_10]: That's not making somebody do something.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, you could buy the way, I guess.
[SPEAKER_10]: There's a sign on the front of a lot of businesses at the beach that say, no shirt, no shoes, no service, right?
[SPEAKER_10]: And I get to choose, if I'm going to put shirt and shoes on and then get served or go home, or go to a different store.
[SPEAKER_10]: That's a choice.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_10]: But just to be clear, don't run a fucking interstate criminal enterprise out of your dorm room.
[SPEAKER_10]: Okay, that's dumb.
[SPEAKER_03]: Or just be better at it.
[SPEAKER_10]: Nope.
[SPEAKER_03]: You can't do it.
[SPEAKER_10]: You cannot do it.
[SPEAKER_10]: Don't shit where you eat.
[SPEAKER_10]: If you're going to do something stupid like that, do it smarter than that.
[SPEAKER_10]: You fucking dummy because you just ruin your fucking life.
[SPEAKER_10]: I don't know what this kid's smiling about.
[SPEAKER_11]: How's this about to say?
[SPEAKER_11]: This is a good lesson.
[SPEAKER_10]: This is a good lesson.
[SPEAKER_10]: Maybe his dad's a really good lawyer.
[SPEAKER_10]: But...
[SPEAKER_10]: That's stupid.
[SPEAKER_10]: Also, if you're young, you're going to do some dumb shit, drugs, and alcohol, the most important thing is that you be in control of your passions, master yourself first, and don't become addicted to shit because that's pussy bullshit.
[SPEAKER_10]: Being an addict is a weakness and also abstinence is a weakness.
[SPEAKER_10]: If you can't be around something, then you have it solved your problem yet and you're still living with that problem.
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, by the way, the guy with the glasses here, they're saying is the actual ringleader.
[SPEAKER_03]: So beaker, beaker is the ringleader of all of this.
[SPEAKER_03]: god damn that shocking do this this guy here uh no the uh the uh the guy we we did the side by side with from the uh the super troopers look alike the one that I said put the glasses on for the mug shot him he's the ringleader this whole fucking operation there so there he is top left let's take a normal kid that's uh I don't know he looks way different in that one
[SPEAKER_03]: That's what I'm saying, but they put the glasses on and kind of gave him like a pompador to make them look dorkier and that's part of the whole thing, man, with these mug shots.
[SPEAKER_10]: Comey Fornius says, uh, who was making the coke?
[SPEAKER_10]: Uh, they the only thing that the only thing I heard was they were they were driving to New York to pick it up and then driving back, which means, um,
[SPEAKER_10]: There's going to be a, you can't, here's what you can't, you can't, you can't charge somebody with Rico because they have a dealer that they go to, even a, even a math, math distributor.
[SPEAKER_10]: That's not a Rico case.
[SPEAKER_10]: I'm really curious to see what the Rico cases, if that's true.
[SPEAKER_10]: I haven't seen that anywhere about Rico, but if that's true, I'm really curious to see what that case might look like because if you were buying from the same distributor for 25 years, that doesn't mean you're part of an ongoing criminal enterprise with that person, that just means that's where your buying shit from.
[SPEAKER_10]: That's a heart cell.
[SPEAKER_10]: So I'm curious who it is.
[SPEAKER_10]: If it's New York,
[SPEAKER_10]: Didn't, wasn't there some boozle on this?
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, there was Muhammad his name.
[SPEAKER_10]: There's a lot of the Muslims used drug trafficking and credit card theft and scams like that to fund their hand-to-hand financial networks for terrorist attacks in the US.
[SPEAKER_10]: I don't know if that has anything to do with this.
[SPEAKER_10]: Probably not, but I don't know.
[SPEAKER_10]: I mean, look, you've got to have a quoted fraternity for race.
[SPEAKER_03]: Sorry, there's nothing you can really do there, and they kind of pressure you into that.
[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, the dude with the glasses we showed earlier just turned himself in is Coke.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, it looks like the university can get out of the Sigma CY1 because they're not recognizes by the university and operates outside their supervision.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're fine, but the Delta Upsil on, they're going to
[SPEAKER_10]: They're going to go down here.
[SPEAKER_10]: I don't know if, by the way, they're connected any kind of terrorist shit.
[SPEAKER_10]: I have no idea.
[SPEAKER_10]: But what I do know is that elicit drug trafficking, human trafficking, and credit card theft, especially in addition to some other small time scams, are one of the primary fundraisers for Islamic terrorism and the Northeast and the US.
[SPEAKER_10]: wouldn't be shocking to see that at a university to be honest.
[SPEAKER_10]: I mean, who I don't know who the big traffickers, maybe there's some D.A.
[SPEAKER_10]: or FBI drinker bros out there who can hit us up about this.
[SPEAKER_10]: I don't know who the primary cocaine traffickers are in New York right now.
[SPEAKER_03]: I, there's still mob, there's still mob families that live there.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, there are, but they, most of that shit's gone.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's too hard with fucking sound
[SPEAKER_10]: The mob isn't, you can't live here in traffic cocaine like that, not in that quantity because you'll get caught eventually.
[SPEAKER_10]: Maybe that is them and maybe they will get caught, but you have to be like a transient cartel style set up where people are swapping in and out all the time and you don't give a fuck if your employees get arrested to be able to traffic and wait like that because
[SPEAKER_10]: Even coming across the border, they expect a certain amount to get nabbed by police, and that's just part of the game.
[SPEAKER_10]: That's just tax to them, same thing with the human trafficking they do.
[SPEAKER_10]: So I don't think the mob has that kind of attrition capability.
[SPEAKER_10]: This is him, younger.
[SPEAKER_10]: Looks like I'm a kid to uglier and uglier.
[SPEAKER_10]: Maybe this is the cocaine, maybe that guy's right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe there's probably a male cheerleader having fun and, you know, I just think he was the smartest one.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's how most of the shit works.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not usually the shifty looking dudes in college.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's the fucking smart dudes, man, who we're doing this shit.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then making a ton of money, that's the last thing I'm curious about in this case.
[SPEAKER_03]: How much fucking money was actually made?
[SPEAKER_03]: because cocaine and college, my god, man, what a fucking enterprise.
[SPEAKER_03]: Shit!
[SPEAKER_03]: I bet this dude is the most popular dude on campus for Christ 6.
[SPEAKER_03]: He'd be bigger than drew a lot at that time.
[SPEAKER_10]: I said to them.
[SPEAKER_10]: The cocaine was being trafficked from Philadelphia and New York.
[SPEAKER_10]: That's probably black gangs, then if it's Philly and New York.
[SPEAKER_10]: I think that would probably be black gangs more likely, which is that raises some other questions.
[SPEAKER_10]: How the fuck did this?
[SPEAKER_03]: Revenge of the how did a Robert Carrity in here get drafted by the the black gains in the York and Philly to do this black kings matter Okay, and I think we're leaving those skies out, and we should remember them It's about the they just found a market, you know, and they just went for it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Hi, and dude you and I've been there a million times I mean you went to school there obviously, but some it's out in the middle of nowhere
[SPEAKER_10]: there's nothing going on at Penn State here's here's my here's like a fire was an investigator on this this is what I would be thinking how the fuck did this dorky white kid get hooked up with somebody that can get that amount of cocaine you can't there's nobody in your town that you know right now that has kilos of cocaine
[SPEAKER_10]: Especially in state college, it's too hard to get it out.
[SPEAKER_10]: There's nowhere around you.
[SPEAKER_10]: It doesn't matter what city you're in, even if you're in a major city, you personally don't know anybody that has a fucking brick of cocaine.
[SPEAKER_10]: So how did he meet the guy that has the brick?
[SPEAKER_10]: That's the question.
[SPEAKER_10]: And my brain would immediately think that this guy was trying to do small time stuff and usually what happens is the guy that has access to the brick reaches out to the person that's industrious.
[SPEAKER_03]: So are they are more schools in the Northeast that have a pipeline like this that would be my first thing I'm sure I mean look it's I think this just got too big and too out of fucking control and Like you said dude, one of these kids gets caught they're gonna fucking flip and get freaked out So yeah, yeah, they're not that's yeah, they're not fucking nobody's doing a fucking
[SPEAKER_10]: a fucking eight-year bid for trafficking to keep their fucking dormant out of jail.
[SPEAKER_10]: I don't think.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I've had meetings in Pittsburgh and Philly after being in Penn State.
[SPEAKER_03]: Pittsburgh's about two hours away, Philly's about four hours away.
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's a fucking far drive with a brick a cocaine.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then you got to go through a bunch of tolls and all that other shit.
[SPEAKER_03]: And
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a big risk.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I guess it's not driving out of Miami or anything, but flock to it, that's wild.
[SPEAKER_10]: I would think that if I were these investigators, I would be looking at Rutgers and NYU, I can tell you Rutgers is fucking raging on cocaine.
[SPEAKER_10]: Boston College, probably BC, BU, maybe UMass,
[SPEAKER_10]: It's probably one, there's probably a dozen or so.
[SPEAKER_10]: Any of the Catholic schools too, through that region because that's, it just happens to be that there's a lot of Catholic schools in the Northeast, but the big, the large campus schools in the Northeast, I would be looking at them.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I think you're always looking at college campuses for drugs.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, we co-axes to see the normal shade.
[SPEAKER_03]: If it was heroin, that'd be a big deal.
[SPEAKER_03]: I never heard about anybody doing heroin in college.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, that would be hard to attend class on here one.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it'd be tough.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, the other crazy story here today is this 10 pool shit.
[SPEAKER_03]: So we talked about this with Candice Owens and who is the guy she went against on the debate on Friday?
[SPEAKER_03]: Andrew Wilson and you Wilson people are going back and forth who said who won who lost blah, blah, blah Tim pool showed up on Jubilee to debate a bunch of people and Last night they said he had rage quit this podcast.
[SPEAKER_03]: I have not seen this.
[SPEAKER_03]: I haven't seen this clip here Press play on it, but this seems to be what everybody's doing now is he's weird fucking debates with like 80 people
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[SPEAKER_11]: This was there one moderate versus 20 progressives all in their channel.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_11]: Okay, press play on this.
[SPEAKER_08]: I haven't seen it.
[SPEAKER_08]: The US academics described the period that we're in as civil strife, meaning there's a criteria of death that has occurred for political reasons over the past year or years, for which the next phase would be civil war.
[SPEAKER_08]: However, tracking, well, maybe my point, tracking towards it, I've not said that it will happen, although there's been many people who have said that we are in a cold civil war or some kind of cultural civil war.
[SPEAKER_08]: I always, always caveat because I don't actually have a long
[SPEAKER_09]: First of all, you do have strong tradition.
[SPEAKER_09]: If you've been saying this since 2019, there's 40 articles about it.
[SPEAKER_09]: People can look this up.
[SPEAKER_09]: There's 42 of your titles that have the word civil war in it.
[SPEAKER_09]: Correct.
[SPEAKER_09]: A big font on the front.
[SPEAKER_09]: It sure do.
[SPEAKER_09]: So why is that?
[SPEAKER_09]: It's sensationalist.
[SPEAKER_09]: It's easy to get clicks on that.
[SPEAKER_09]: There's a reason why you say it because it's very profitable for your business.
[SPEAKER_08]: But there's that we have 100,000, 600 episodes and just IRL.
[SPEAKER_09]: There comes a point where people stop taking your prediction series.
[SPEAKER_08]: I'm going to make an argument that's are you mad at me?
[SPEAKER_09]: I'm not mad at you.
[SPEAKER_09]: Okay, let's make an argument about whether or not we are tracking.
[SPEAKER_09]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
[SPEAKER_08]: If you're making an argument, you don't like my thumbnails or you don't just say my name.
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[SPEAKER_09]: But what let me ask you a predictions.
[SPEAKER_09]: Let me ask you a question.
[SPEAKER_09]: You kind of agree with you that there's increased polarization.
[SPEAKER_09]: I would attribute a lot of that to people being specifically online.
[SPEAKER_09]: Let me ask I'm not surprised interaction with people that are are in different can.
[SPEAKER_09]: Let me ask you a question.
[SPEAKER_09]: You're going to sit here and tell me that we're way more polarized and get Alexander Hamilton and Aaron Burr who like shot each other with their disagreements.
[SPEAKER_09]: You're going to say, I was Aaron Jackson who's the sitting president.
[SPEAKER_09]: You want John the Conqueror, so you're just going to be not polarizing.
[SPEAKER_08]: Why was Aaron Dale's in shot the shot the chest twice?
[SPEAKER_08]: Sorry.
[SPEAKER_08]: Why was Aaron Daniels in shot the chest twice?
[SPEAKER_08]: I'm just disagreeing that political violence taking place when you say Alexander Hamilton and Aaron Burr, but I want to ask you a question about an assassination.
[SPEAKER_08]: You defer.
[SPEAKER_08]: You can say that.
[SPEAKER_08]: Let me ask you a question.
[SPEAKER_09]: And it doesn't happen and it doesn't happen yet, let me ask you if it does happen You say see I've had it all let me ask you about the same thing as like the question Ratter people say that the raptors coming every year I want it doesn't happen.
[SPEAKER_08]: Do you want to so fast you'll make it just so much it's really easy I'm gonna go easy to remember what you do
[SPEAKER_09]: Like you literally just say, the Civil War is happening next year.
[SPEAKER_09]: Civil War is happening next year.
[SPEAKER_09]: It's coming.
[SPEAKER_09]: Make sure you subscribe to Tim Pass.
[SPEAKER_09]: Continue to watch my videos, please.
[SPEAKER_09]: Follow us on YouTube, follow us on Instagram.
[SPEAKER_09]: It's easy to do what you do, bro.
[SPEAKER_10]: Do you think this guy wore a bigger ability to try to stunt on Tim Bull?
[SPEAKER_02]: He did.
[SPEAKER_02]: They were talking about how somebody, nobody was supposed to know that Tim Bull was gonna be the guest that day, and somebody leaked it.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that guy brought a beat to this guy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, gosh, you got you, guys.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, but we're not going to point out this dude's missing a hand.
[SPEAKER_03]: Are we just going to let that go?
[SPEAKER_11]: This guy's handle online is one hand politics.
[SPEAKER_11]: Stop it.
[SPEAKER_11]: That's good man.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
[SPEAKER_03]: There you go.
[SPEAKER_03]: How do I, how do I do that here?
[SPEAKER_03]: I just say I guess I just tap the mic with one hand.
[SPEAKER_02]: Congratulations.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: What's the sound of one hand clapping contemplate that?
[SPEAKER_10]: Uh, well, we used to not clap.
[SPEAKER_10]: We used to put knuckles on the table when people were men.
[SPEAKER_10]: Women clap.
[SPEAKER_10]: You understand?
[SPEAKER_10]: Clapings gave it to you.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yes, oh shit, I'm never clapping a gun.
[SPEAKER_10]: No, why would you?
[SPEAKER_10]: When there's a table right here.
[SPEAKER_03]: If you have no table though, you know, and this kid has no hand.
[SPEAKER_10]: No, he's there's a table right?
[SPEAKER_10]: He's literally sitting at a table.
[SPEAKER_03]: But he only has one hand.
[SPEAKER_10]: And he doesn't stop you from doing this.
[SPEAKER_03]: He had to put on the fucking beanie dude.
[SPEAKER_03]: Where do you think that came from?
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, he had to put it on.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I've got a fucking ton of questions about this.
[SPEAKER_10]: Why is this the hot thing to do on all of this shit just because it's going to get views on all this stuff it's just a new format of crossfire that's all Jubilee is it's antagonistic politics for clicks.
[SPEAKER_10]: That's all it is, but that's not really what temples in the news for today, I don't know where this part came this was so this was last night's and this led into
[SPEAKER_10]: Uh, the sim pulls a fraud and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah
[SPEAKER_10]: this go to his Twitter page.
[SPEAKER_10]: And you can search for the post he made.
[SPEAKER_10]: So Alex made a post that was complaining about how he's lost 90% of his viewers on Twitter or whatever and he's saying that he's being censored or whatever, right?
[SPEAKER_10]: And then Tim pulled me the comment, you can find it and read it yourself.
[SPEAKER_10]: that maybe you took a hard pivot away from stuff that people want to hear and as a result they fucked off and don't listen to you anymore or something to that hard pivot against Trump.
[SPEAKER_10]: In general Trump is real just black pilling general.
[SPEAKER_10]: I mean Alex has always been a conspiracy guy but he's not a black pill guy.
[SPEAKER_10]: He's always like let's fight the demons and blah, blah, blah, whatever you think of the rhetoric.
[SPEAKER_10]: He's not been a black pill guy until relatively recently.
[SPEAKER_03]: We'll play the clip that I sent you.
[SPEAKER_10]: I'm not going to have any context, too.
[SPEAKER_10]: There's stuff that you need to read first.
[SPEAKER_10]: Hold on, I'll find it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Because he's saying in this one, that's him pulls being paid by somebody.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's what this kid last night was saying.
[SPEAKER_03]: So one of the kids on Jubilee last night was also saying that Tim Pool was getting paid by somebody.
[SPEAKER_10]: Here it is.
[SPEAKER_10]: My honest opinion, so actually, I'll just DM you to their original, but you can play the video.
[SPEAKER_10]: So it makes sense.
[SPEAKER_10]: You can play some of Alex's videos as well.
[SPEAKER_03]: But here's why I think these are all connected.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's him pool being paid by somebody to say shit.
[SPEAKER_10]: I don't know, but not as real.
[SPEAKER_10]: I mean, it's stupid.
[SPEAKER_10]: So this is play this video, at least the first part of it.
[SPEAKER_10]: This is Alex talking.
[SPEAKER_07]: Elon Musk is the free speech trailblazer, not as an American worldwide, so with a huge citizenship we've seen last 48 hours, I don't believe he's behind it.
[SPEAKER_07]: That's why I'm firing the bat signal right now at Elon Musk to find out what the hell's going on X and the correctest problem we're counting on you, Elon.
[SPEAKER_10]: you can cut it off now.
[SPEAKER_10]: So he goes on to say that they've lost like 90% of the viewers blah, blah, blah, whatever.
[SPEAKER_10]: 90% reduction of viewers after change in algorithm.
[SPEAKER_10]: That was the headline.
[SPEAKER_10]: And this is what Tim said.
[SPEAKER_10]: My honest opinion is that you can't go pro-Trump for 10 years then Trump critical and be surprised if your audience drops off.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_10]: That's, uh, I understand that.
[SPEAKER_10]: Maybe that's right, maybe it's not.
[SPEAKER_10]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_10]: That was an observation that Tim made.
[SPEAKER_10]: And he and Alex have been friends for a lot of times.
[SPEAKER_10]: So far as I know, um, I mean, he had Alex on the show when they were out in Austin.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, we've had Alex on the show.
[SPEAKER_10]: He had Alex on the show.
[SPEAKER_10]: We've gone on his show.
[SPEAKER_10]: When Alex was banned from all the other things and then YouTuber moved his video and then Alex and our temple and Michael Males had Alex on again just to make sure that it couldn't get wiped off the internet.
[SPEAKER_10]: So they kind of went out of their way a little bit, frankly, to make sure that Alex got platformed at a time when he was not platformed.
[SPEAKER_10]: And Tim makes this observation, and then this is the response from, actually, you know, we'll just play this whole thing because I think it's kind of interesting.
[SPEAKER_10]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_10]: There you go.
[SPEAKER_10]: Check your DMs there.
[SPEAKER_10]: This is Alex's response to that.
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm just focusing on him because he's the latest prominent person to kind of join on this bandwagon of all look.
[SPEAKER_07]: Alex Jones has no viewers.
[SPEAKER_07]: Alex Jones is a pertinent.
[SPEAKER_07]: Alex Jones is basically a has been all because they changed the honor of them Friday.
[SPEAKER_07]: on eggs and never so whole bunch of live trailers for us.
[SPEAKER_10]: Paul's ever said what you you we just read what Tim said right.
[SPEAKER_10]: He said maybe if you go hard against Trump after being really pro Trump people have feel some kind of way about that what when where did he say he was not serious or that he was a husband.
[SPEAKER_10]: It was one sentence that Alex poured all of this additional information into, but it has nothing to do with anything, right?
[SPEAKER_10]: That has nothing to do with what Tim said.
[SPEAKER_10]: He's making an observation that if...
[SPEAKER_10]: people were listening to you because they were white-pilled about Trump and now they're fucking black now you're black-pilled about Trump or whatever it is maybe it isn't Trump specifically but what he's doing more broadly speaking and then uh... maybe they just went back to all the other people that were watching before that were already black-pilled or something right who knows he didn't really speculate on
[SPEAKER_10]: where they went, he was saying maybe that's also a cause.
[SPEAKER_10]: And then play it replay this or just play it from there.
[SPEAKER_07]: They're taking it to us.
[SPEAKER_07]: Notice that 90 plus percent reduction over the weekend, and I said, looks like there's a bug here.
[SPEAKER_07]: And by the day they fixed to the numbers where you know, back to what they were.
[SPEAKER_07]: And of course, our engagement, our followers, our videos, that was much easier they've ever had.
[SPEAKER_07]: But I noticed immediate talking points last night when I posted that one looked at this warning by a whole bunch of influencers like the quartering and now it's been pulled a day, but thousands of them, it was just thousands all over the place trending as you can see saying, it's because you're against the war, it's because you turn against Trump, it's because you're getting money from the Pakistanis and the Qataris and all this.
[SPEAKER_07]: When I posted a video last night about this, I said I talked to my social media people and they said,
[SPEAKER_07]: No, it's people across the board non-political, it's probably not censorship, but it's just some type of bug that needs to be fixed.
[SPEAKER_07]: So I said, it's probably a bug.
[SPEAKER_07]: As of this morning, they fixed it, and I said it was a bug, great job Elon Musk team fixing this, and then people like Tim Poole come in and say, oh well, if you support Trump for 10 years, then you turn against him, what do you expect?
[SPEAKER_07]: It's over 99% it's not like I had gradual decline it's like boom like this and then it was corrected in 24 hours or less than 24 hours after I talked about it, but it was already there for a day.
[SPEAKER_07]: So my issue is I don't sit there and wait for Timpool to have a problem.
[SPEAKER_07]: I don't sit there and wait for him to have something happen and then seize upon him.
[SPEAKER_07]: And in fact, because I think of him as a friend and liking, I probably self-sensored some of some of the things I've seen him do, and if you look at numbers, this Tim Pool is way down.
[SPEAKER_07]: Tim Pool wants to see other people have numbers that are low.
[SPEAKER_07]: After it was discovered that he secretly met with Benjamin Netanyahu under Chaddam House rules,
[SPEAKER_07]: And then later admitted it, they've spent $1.3 billion.
[SPEAKER_07]: They started right around the time.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, that's the remaining buying off influencers in the United States.
[SPEAKER_07]: So when I asked Tim Poole, did you take any money from Israel or its subsidiaries or any of its front ribs or organizations?
[SPEAKER_07]: Because I've never taken money from Israel, Qatar, the UAE, the Iranians, the US government, other than Air Force, did by $20,000 on my YouTube ads, where I got mad.
[SPEAKER_07]: I didn't even ask for it, they just bought the ads, air force, as we're curving in.
[SPEAKER_07]: So actually the air force that I got, it's been way that was dogs with me, once that I remember, it was some Marine Corps ads too, they weren't that big.
[SPEAKER_07]: So here's the deal, I'm fun about people at theoxiumstore.com, I'm on the field by the Methylene Blue, the T-shirt, stuff like that.
[SPEAKER_10]: And you can probably have a story.
[SPEAKER_10]: The assertion made by...
[SPEAKER_10]: Um, by Jones here is that Friday, which would have been August 14th, the hour of them change in his viewership on Twitter, dipped really low.
[SPEAKER_10]: Um, I mean, I'm I'm back into the early part of last week and the numbers are the same as they were.
[SPEAKER_10]: yesterday.
[SPEAKER_10]: Now maybe he's gotten a bump today over the last 24 hours because of all the drama that's been stirred up and maybe that's the fucking point, right?
[SPEAKER_10]: Frankly, because you look at the views per for August like 13th, 12th, 13th.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's somewhere between
[SPEAKER_10]: Uh, it's most of them come in around 140,000 actually per Twitter posts and it's consistent.
[SPEAKER_10]: He posts 15 times a day, maybe pretty consistent.
[SPEAKER_10]: That's a lot of traffic that he generates.
[SPEAKER_10]: You look at the 14th, which is Friday when the algorithm changed.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's exactly the same.
[SPEAKER_10]: Uh, some a little bit higher actually on Friday.
[SPEAKER_10]: And then you get into the 50th, and 140, 265, 119, 140, et cetera, et cetera, and then, you know, you look into the day, and it's kind of the same.
[SPEAKER_10]: Some of them got more today.
[SPEAKER_10]: Our starting last night when all this controversy kicked up.
[SPEAKER_10]: He said he got back into the 300,000s, but it's not true that Friday all of a sudden they dropped a drop because you can look, you can go back and look and see this stuff.
[SPEAKER_10]: So I don't know what the fuck he's talking about exactly, but what this this is the interesting part to be somebody somewhere I guess maybe Alex saw accused him of taking money from somebody to do something or whatever.
[SPEAKER_10]: All Tim said was if maybe going hard and I trump cost you something that's a fair this is put it back up on the screen this is a fair thing to say I guess right
[SPEAKER_10]: pro-Trump the average Alex Jones follower is necessarily who knows probably not super pro-Trump not more than pro- Alex Jones I would think right since they've been following for so long but Tim made no comment about that and immediately
[SPEAKER_10]: the conversation turns to how 10 is some like fucking Israeli agent.
[SPEAKER_10]: You have to get on and deny you're in Israeli agent really?
[SPEAKER_10]: That's where you go with that after kind of making up this thing about you're losing attraction because of an algorithm change because we can see that that's not true.
[SPEAKER_10]: What do you think that is?
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, again, I'll go back to the Jubilee thing last night.
[SPEAKER_03]: Some of those kids that were in there, and they look like kids, I don't know how old they are.
[SPEAKER_03]: Looks like college kids.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, mostly college kids.
[SPEAKER_03]: Some of them had said last night that he was taking money.
[SPEAKER_03]: Tim Poole was, I have no fucking idea how any of that shit works.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_10]: But these are his posts since then.
[SPEAKER_10]: 10 pull needs to come clean on a secret meetings with the Israeli government and Benjamin Netanyahu.
[SPEAKER_10]: One key question for, quote, to our for 10 pull, are you now or have ever been and is really operative?
[SPEAKER_10]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's where we're at though.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's where we're at.
[SPEAKER_03]: Somebody else was saying, hey, on this Jubilee thing last night that he was taking money from Russians.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's part of the tenant media scandal that's up on the screen right now.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, which, which one is this that it was gets his Lauren Chan, I think, or name one.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, Lauren Chan was or received a hundred thousand dollars per episode from tenant media, a Tennessee based company that a US Justice Department and Ditement revealed was secretly funded by Russian state media employees.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: That part was up last night's in this Jubilee thing, and yeah, I have no idea at the end of the day.
[SPEAKER_03]: Look, if you're asking me for an honest guess here, everybody who was so hard Trump, and then made a, you and I have talked about this for better part of the last six, seven months.
[SPEAKER_03]: Made a hard left.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was like, fuck, Trump, fuck, you know, everything in blah, blah, blah, blah.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, I think, yeah, your listeners are going to fucking veer off from that.
[SPEAKER_03]: with me shit.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, look, I voted for Trump.
[SPEAKER_03]: I've always been a Republican and I'm not ants.
[SPEAKER_03]: What's going on in Iran?
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not ants about the gas prices.
[SPEAKER_03]: Still doesn't mean I didn't want to vote for him and I'd be off the Trump train or anything else, man.
[SPEAKER_03]: You got a lot of time to turn this around.
[SPEAKER_03]: A lot of time, two years left, to turn this whole thing around, and I'm at least hopeful about it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not fucking black-pilled or anything else, but it did seem for a while that Alex Jones and some of these other guys were, and they were like, fuck Trump, and I can't believe he did this.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, what's your guess there?
[SPEAKER_10]: a combination of intellectual laziness and he's a sensationalist, right?
[SPEAKER_10]: No matter how many times Alex has been correct, he's a sensationalist, right?
[SPEAKER_10]: He makes maximalist claims and then will,
[SPEAKER_10]: Kind of he'll make a maximum of this claim and then back off during the actual conversation a little bit I don't think that makes him a bad dude That's the same thing people do with like a catchy headline.
[SPEAKER_10]: You read a catchy headline and then you explain the details in the in the paragraph It's not the the most honest thing in the world, but most people will do it
[SPEAKER_10]: frankly, right?
[SPEAKER_10]: Clickbait headlines.
[SPEAKER_10]: Alex Jones does it out loud.
[SPEAKER_10]: He says the clickbait headline, and then when you talk to him about something, he's usually got a much more reasoned opinion.
[SPEAKER_10]: If you get past the gravel and his voice and the justiculations and whatnot, he's not that crazy to be honest.
[SPEAKER_10]: People think he's a lunatic or something like that.
[SPEAKER_10]: Now he does
[SPEAKER_10]: The reason that he does the maximalist stuff, the sensationalist stuff is because he's an entertainer.
[SPEAKER_10]: And if you see him as an entertainer, then you don't have to take everything seriously.
[SPEAKER_10]: What I don't like is the entryism, and you can see him here with his Twitter fucking
[SPEAKER_10]: headline photo, or whatever the fuck it's called at the top, is with Tucker Carlson and they both do this entry is a bullshit, where they bring in fucking retarded people like Joel Webbin is one of them.
[SPEAKER_10]: This so-called Christian nationalist pastor who's like, um, uh, is an apologist for people like Carl Schmidt, who's just a fucking Nazi.
[SPEAKER_10]: I mean, I'm not, we're not playing this games anymore.
[SPEAKER_10]: piece of shit retard and be like, oh, I mean, he calls Marta made his favorite story and that guy's a fucking moron.
[SPEAKER_10]: He just makes shit up and then when you challenge him on it, he does the argument to moderation every single time or says, that's not me.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's the whole thing is goofball nonsense, right?
[SPEAKER_10]: So the only thing I really don't like about it from Alex's perspective is the entryism stuff, everything else.
[SPEAKER_10]: He's just an entertainer.
[SPEAKER_10]: Gotta keep that in mind.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but entertainment at the end of the day is who's going to listen to you, follow you and why, and if you want my honest opinion, then you pissed off too many people.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think Tim's points that, you know, and that tweets probably correct, you know.
[SPEAKER_03]: you can't lead a charge for Trump Trump Trump and then back away when one thing goes bad.
[SPEAKER_03]: And yeah, again, I'm not happy about the Iran thing and gas and all that other shit, but there's a lot of positives for the fucking country and what was the alternative thing?
[SPEAKER_03]: It was Trump and Kamala, and we would have had four more years of open borders and all this other shit.
[SPEAKER_03]: And before I ran, everything was fucking going great.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, hopefully it subsides, he gets his way out of it, and the biggest issue I think, where I people are jumping in shit if you want, just as my fucking...
[SPEAKER_03]: yes here at this point is the midterms are coming up in case it is a blood bath a lot of people want to be on the right side of it.
[SPEAKER_03]: And a lot of these people did make a hard pivot from Trump against Trump and they're trying to play sides here.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I don't know what's going to happen.
[SPEAKER_03]: Who's at this dinner table photo you got up right now?
[SPEAKER_11]: So these are the people who we're talking about making a third party.
[SPEAKER_11]: So like Thomas Massey, Tucker Carlson, Marjorie Taylor Green, Joe Kent, okay.
[SPEAKER_11]: I don't know who these other people are.
[SPEAKER_03]: And where is this at, Dan?
[SPEAKER_03]: Is this at its house?
[SPEAKER_03]: This is at Tucker Carlson's house.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, gotcha.
[SPEAKER_03]: I've heard that rumor as well.
[SPEAKER_03]: Is that part of it?
[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think a third party can win.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it would help Republicans lose.
[SPEAKER_11]: No, what I think they're going to do is they're going to try to like build cloud themselves and then they're probably going to maybe have somebody run for president, but then that person's going to drop out.
[SPEAKER_11]: And it seems like Terry Carlson prefers J.D.
[SPEAKER_11]: Vance as a candidate so the person's probably going to.
[SPEAKER_10]: uh... endorsed jadevans for press i mean there's no reason to think that the bulk of the votes anybody from this group would pull our republican voters why would you think that jokant was uh... burning bro and he couldn't win in a and i fucking bright red district in his own state
[SPEAKER_10]: Why is that?
[SPEAKER_10]: Because he was a Bernie Burrow and Republicans didn't trust him.
[SPEAKER_10]: They sure are shit.
[SPEAKER_10]: Don't trust him now.
[SPEAKER_10]: Whatever you think about the guy, Republican voters, the people that actually vote like fucking 45 to 64-year-olds, they do not trust the guy.
[SPEAKER_10]: They're not voting for him.
[SPEAKER_10]: same thing with Tucker.
[SPEAKER_10]: I mean, his audience is mostly it went from 65 year olds and you can see everybody's like, oh, what happened to Tucker?
[SPEAKER_10]: What happened to Tucker?
[SPEAKER_10]: His audience changed.
[SPEAKER_10]: So he did.
[SPEAKER_10]: He went from an average age of 64 years old on Fox News and that's the story he told to an average age of 25 year olds and that's the story he's telling now.
[SPEAKER_10]: He's a fucking, he's a narrative teller.
[SPEAKER_10]: He's not a fucking newsman.
[SPEAKER_10]: He's not a journalist.
[SPEAKER_10]: He's not fucking a philosopher or anything.
[SPEAKER_10]: He's just a guy who listens to his audience and tells them what they want to hear.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's the rule.
[SPEAKER_10]: That's it.
[SPEAKER_10]: So his audience got younger and he dipped into what's popular with them now, which is dissident bullshit.
[SPEAKER_10]: That's it's really that simple.
[SPEAKER_10]: There's no reason to think that anybody was getting paid by anybody else for any of this shit.
[SPEAKER_10]: What people are getting paid by is attention and add dollars.
[SPEAKER_10]: That's it.
[SPEAKER_03]: But if you're as rich as Tucker Carlson, what's the point to pay attention?
[SPEAKER_03]: Hard change.
[SPEAKER_10]: Attention.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but you've got to love that so much that you're willing to change all of your Why would he have gotten into the business in the first place?
[SPEAKER_03]: He was rich when he was born I don't know his back story.
[SPEAKER_03]: He was rich when he was born What did what did his dad do?
[SPEAKER_10]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_10]: I don't know, but they're they have generational wealth Okay, he's never had to work.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll look it up.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, look it up.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm curious to see this Because let's take the other side of this just guys who have been doing it for that long because Tucker's been along He's been doing it long 20 years
[SPEAKER_03]: Longer, maybe.
[SPEAKER_10]: His entire adult life, so far as I know.
[SPEAKER_03]: How old is he?
[SPEAKER_11]: uh... fifty three okay uh... but like though he uh... his father married fifty seven ship uh... his father married Patricia Caroline swanson and arrest to the swanson enterprises frozen food no swapping it way it's got that turkey money so what do you care at this point like that that that's what i don't understand he cares about power and attention just like every other medallion it's not that
[SPEAKER_03]: But if you look at the other side of this, right, ladies, let's take a Glenn Beck.
[SPEAKER_03]: Glenn Beck hasn't changed all these years.
[SPEAKER_03]: Rush Limbaul didn't really change all those years.
[SPEAKER_10]: Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaul were not born affluent.
[SPEAKER_10]: right, but they built their own companies around a brand that was their principle.
[SPEAKER_10]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_10]: But that's the difference.
[SPEAKER_10]: There's no, what do you mean?
[SPEAKER_10]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, no, that's what I'm saying.
[SPEAKER_03]: Put like he's rich.
[SPEAKER_10]: He can just do what his principles tell him to do if he wants to.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, but he doesn't have any.
[SPEAKER_10]: That's the point.
[SPEAKER_10]: He has no principles.
[SPEAKER_10]: He's a guy who's motivated entirely by whatever he gets from the attention he's seeking.
[SPEAKER_10]: That's what he gets.
[SPEAKER_10]: He didn't get
[SPEAKER_10]: kind of sounds like a stay at home guy, doesn't he?
[SPEAKER_10]: Stay at home guy that Mary kind of like what's his name?
[SPEAKER_10]: John Kerry, who married into the Hines family?
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, he could get rich too.
[SPEAKER_10]: Like he's one of these fucking waspsby, northeastern, fucking Connecticut dudes who married into a rich family who he's probably from above.
[SPEAKER_10]: upper middle class family, or if not high class family himself, married into a rich family, and what kind of families do they come from, from hard-working dads out there, making their fortune and not seeing their kids.
[SPEAKER_10]: He probably went to prep school.
[SPEAKER_10]: He probably went to boarding school.
[SPEAKER_10]: They never saw his dad and now as a result, all he wants is attention.
[SPEAKER_10]: He needs validation constantly from somebody else.
[SPEAKER_10]: always.
[SPEAKER_10]: And that's his entire world view.
[SPEAKER_10]: It drives him.
[SPEAKER_10]: That's why you can go from having hard opinions on something, to having the opposite hard opinions on something within the span of one year, because your audience changes.
[SPEAKER_10]: You just looked into a different mirror that's all this.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and it's an interesting look, as far as media goes, I mean, look, I studied journalism and college and all that other shifts.
[SPEAKER_03]: This case, and some of these, I would say six or seven of these guys who have changed over the course of the last year that it just kind of stopped on a dime and changed.
[SPEAKER_03]: All of these people you could study.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I think a lot of this too comes back to money.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, Tucker, I think you said,
[SPEAKER_10]: Um, his, uh, his, um, the guy who loaned him a bunch of money to start the TC and Tucker Carlson network is Katari, I believe.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, sorry.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, so.
[SPEAKER_03]: Look, when you're getting paid by some of the person or family or whatever, yeah, they're trying to tell you what to say.
[SPEAKER_10]: But that's a chicken, a red kind of situation.
[SPEAKER_10]: He was already trending towards that conspiratorial shit first.
[SPEAKER_10]: So there's no reason to think, it's certainly a point to make.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's a piece of data that somebody from Qatar
[SPEAKER_10]: is involved in his business and all of a sudden he's pro-Muslim or whatever or anti-Israel, however you want to frame it but he's pro-Muslim for sure because he's run cover for Sharia law before.
[SPEAKER_10]: But maybe he had already made the turn so it made sense to do business with a guy like that.
[SPEAKER_10]: You don't know which one came first.
[SPEAKER_10]: I don't know that you can accuse him of the money being the motivator there because I don't think it is.
[SPEAKER_10]: I don't think he had the money to do it himself.
[SPEAKER_10]: I think that's why all this is so odd to me that it does it's not odd at all, so you're saying it's just attention and power is nothing to do with money.
[SPEAKER_03]: Hmm.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, why do you think, why do you think, why do you think like, like, Che Guevara or somebody like that did what they did, ran revolutions, he didn't get rich doing that shit.
[SPEAKER_10]: He was living out in the woods when somebody walked up, put him in a fucking chair and blew his brains out of the back of his head.
[SPEAKER_10]: Megalomaniacs do wild shit like that for not money all the time.
[SPEAKER_10]: Interesting.
[SPEAKER_10]: What's this?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, press play on this little pala cleanser.
[SPEAKER_05]: All right.
[SPEAKER_05]: And I'm to this.
[SPEAKER_05]: Let me just indulge my theory which I can't control myself from talking about Ron, baby.
[SPEAKER_05]: I've heard it before, but I just think.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think nuclear weapons, which I don't think were created by people, sorry.
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't care how many movies they make about I don't believe in.
[SPEAKER_05]: Do you see Oppenheimer?
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: Wouldn't watch that crap.
[SPEAKER_05]: Wouldn't let that into my head for one second.
[SPEAKER_05]: But anyway, sorry, now I'm getting really crazy, but it's all true what I'm saying is true.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think once man possessed the power or believed he possessed the power to destroy everything that's alive,
[SPEAKER_05]: I think that he rejects a God like that is kind of like that's rejection of God and like everything changed after that people became convinced they were God's.
[SPEAKER_05]: And that's when the true craziness started on the sixties, the sixties, or the, you know, Obama years or whatever you want, era, it's like post nuclear weapons.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's what I believe.
[SPEAKER_06]: And so what is going on here?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Are you saying that is he saying that nuclear weapons were created by aliens?
[SPEAKER_03]: What is that?
[SPEAKER_10]: I don't think it could be possible that he doesn't believe Jews or people too.
[SPEAKER_10]: Okay, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_10]: No, it's, yeah, it's always aliens and demons with him.
[SPEAKER_10]: I think Hasn't hasn't he said that he thinks that nuclear weapons were demonic and created by demons or something?
[SPEAKER_10]: I think he said that.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, we're not talking about the lives there.
[SPEAKER_10]: Can you can you find that clip?
[SPEAKER_10]: You should be able to just put like, wow, I have not heard and I'm not on the internet enough.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I wish I was now
[SPEAKER_10]: No, there's nobody who's not on the end of enough.
[SPEAKER_10]: Everybody's either on the right amount or too much.
[SPEAKER_10]: She's this Christ.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is insane, dude.
[SPEAKER_03]: I've never seen anything these clips.
[SPEAKER_03]: You can clear webbeds were created by aliens or demons.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think I thought.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, the one you showed me from the Megan Kelly show.
[SPEAKER_03]: How did I never see that goddamn thing?
[SPEAKER_10]: Um, all right, as a Steve Bannon, he's talking to Steve Bannon, but this, I mean, you can, you can, you can explain uh, the, the physics of a nuclear weapon, like I can explain it to you.
[SPEAKER_10]: Well, that's why he could explain it.
[SPEAKER_10]: Oh, that's why he brought us up.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's, it's, it's, it's.
[SPEAKER_10]: when two particles collide of any shape, there is an energy output right from the collision.
[SPEAKER_10]: There's an amount of energy that happens because matter and energy of the same thing, equals MC square, right?
[SPEAKER_10]: Matter of energy of the same thing, they're in different forms, they're entered their potential energy and they turn into kinetic or whatever the fuck.
[SPEAKER_10]: Two particles come together.
[SPEAKER_10]: Now, if you're able to take that particle,
[SPEAKER_10]: and split it in half.
[SPEAKER_10]: There is a massive energy, all the energy it contains, all the potential energy it contains gets released all at the same time.
[SPEAKER_10]: And if you have something that has a very dense high mass particle like uranium or plutonium or something like that, and you're able to split a bunch of them and create a chain reaction all the same time, you can create a big boom.
[SPEAKER_10]: Big boom.
[SPEAKER_10]: Lots of energy.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's the sun.
[SPEAKER_10]: We can literally walk outside and see it right now.
[SPEAKER_10]: That's nuclear energy.
[SPEAKER_10]: Holy shit.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_10]: What the fuck is he talking about?
[SPEAKER_10]: The devil did it?
[SPEAKER_10]: Are aliens?
[SPEAKER_10]: Play this video.
[SPEAKER_10]: I'm pretty sure he said it was the devil.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't seen that.
[SPEAKER_01]: You said so.
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll go back to the about the dropping of the atomic bomb in the beginning of secular society.
[SPEAKER_01]: You might, my dad, and the greatest generation fought on the battlefields of that conflict and we're the driving forces with obviously the Russian people and the Chinese people to deliver us from that time from Imperial Japan and fascist rule in Europe.
[SPEAKER_01]: But at the same time, Oppenheimer, and this is what's so chilling we say about secular, he used, I think it was the Hindu god Vishnu, they called the Project, the Trinity Project, right, and at the very test, they're in New Mexico, he quoted,
[SPEAKER_01]: what the God-vision you about now I know I have I'm the destroyer of roles right don't you find that chilling or is that tidy or since that time it's been all we've now dropped the spiritual which even Oppenheimer realized in the greatest generation we kind of went to what is a totally materialistic secular society that leads America to this place in 2024 and the
[SPEAKER_01]: the instrument of its turnaround or its rejuvenation is a guy like Donald Trump?
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, we didn't drop this spiritual, we just embraced, you know, another element of it.
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, if you're quoting a pagan God as you're incinerating civilians with a nuclear weapon, I mean, I think it's pretty clear that that was the pivot point in America's history, and it's just so interesting how resistant a lot of people who I consider friends
[SPEAKER_06]: you know, that call you a pro hit or you're a holocaust anir if you question the nuclear weapons or whatever.
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't care.
[SPEAKER_06]: Of course, I'm none of those things.
[SPEAKER_06]: It goes that saying or it should.
[SPEAKER_06]: No, I'm just noting the obvious, which is that American society changed profoundly in August of 1945 and it's reflected in the culture.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's reflected in the architecture, the art, the design, the literature.
[SPEAKER_06]: Nothing was the same after the end of a second war.
[SPEAKER_06]: Again, it's not a pro-Nazi statement.
[SPEAKER_06]: I couldn't be more anti-Nazi.
[SPEAKER_06]: Obviously, I'm an American.
[SPEAKER_06]: I care about this country and what happened to it after 1945.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's a very clear demarcation line and seems obvious to me that nuclear weapons are demonic.
[SPEAKER_06]: there's no upside to them at all and that anyone who claims otherwise is either ignorant or doing the bidding of the forces that created nuclear technology in the first place, which are not human forces, obviously, and let me just ask you this, which I have asked it, knowing people at dinner parties, but never in public, what was the moment we can point to that nuclear technology was invented?
[SPEAKER_06]: You know, we can we can point to Isaac Newton and say what happened fell on his head or we can you know, we can point to Albert Hoffman in his face, uh, messing around with the, you know, or get bacteria.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's LSD made.
[SPEAKER_10]: What are you talking about?
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't, I've never met a person who can isolate the moment where nuclear technology became known to man.
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay, we're press of all of a sudden.
[SPEAKER_03]: The Luke, you are an actual nuclear, what was your degree in?
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, I was taking nuclear engineering classes.
[SPEAKER_11]: Nuclear engineering.
[SPEAKER_11]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Clearly, there's a fucking point where we all know.
[SPEAKER_10]: that that this is a one start of the nuclear program there's a lab right outside of Chicago actually called the Fermi lab and it is on i think right now what they're using it for studying neutrinos right they have that like three miles under the ground uh... i'm not saying that i don't know yeah it's you have to get really deep and cover with letting concrete to keep all the other particles out because neutrinos has to solid matter basically right but uh...
[SPEAKER_10]: Enrico Fermi did it just off top my head so the first guy the Fermi paradigm.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, yeah, just theorized nuclear power in general Not not even a bomb necessarily, but just nuclear energy like the ability to create energy from splitting the atom
[SPEAKER_10]: happened a long, fucking time ago, dude.
[SPEAKER_10]: And I just thought of it off the top of my head.
[SPEAKER_10]: What are you talking about?
[SPEAKER_10]: And what is LSD have to do with anything?
[SPEAKER_10]: See, that actually, that is a very telling thing.
[SPEAKER_10]: Demonic damn.
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[SPEAKER_10]: started with the fucking psychedelics, and that's what's going on in the last couple of years, because there are people who use psychedelics and their lives drastically improve.
[SPEAKER_10]: And there are people who use psychedelics, and they go full-shon-rient.
[SPEAKER_10]: You want to mean, like their brains melt, they can't do anything anymore.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's like everything is fucking weird and a conspiracy, and you can barely talk to them anymore.
[SPEAKER_10]: Are you serious?
[SPEAKER_10]: What the fuck, man, and he did, by the way, say demons did it.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he said demons did it.
[SPEAKER_11]: So, I mean, I, I was like, I have not, it's a metaphor.
[SPEAKER_11]: I see what he's saying.
[SPEAKER_11]: It's like, you know, New York's our bad is what he's saying.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're going to take the left turn at the end.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, yeah, it's like, but demons were actually the people who did it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, wow, dude, wow.
[SPEAKER_10]: All right, so you ever learned that in school that demons did this for me was the guy who who built the first man made reactor in 1942
[SPEAKER_10]: He built a reactor.
[SPEAKER_10]: Radioactivity was Marie Curie, actually.
[SPEAKER_10]: She's on that painting at my house.
[SPEAKER_10]: She killed herself on accident by handling radiological material.
[SPEAKER_10]: But the idea of vision, auto-hahn, Fritz Strassman, all Germans, by the way, lies, mightner proves that splitting uranium atom release massive energy.
[SPEAKER_10]: 1908, where is it, where is it, where is it, where is it, where is it, where is it, where is it, where is it, where is it, where is it, where is it, where is it, where is it, where is it, where is it, where is it, where is it, where is it, where is it, where is it, where is it, where is it, where is it, where is it, where is it, where is it, where is it, where is it, where is it, where is it, where is it, where is it, where is it, where is it, where is it, where is it, where is it, where is it, where is it, where is it, where is it, where is it, where is it, where is it, where is it, where is it, where is it, where is it, where is it, where is it, where is it, where is it, where is it, where is it, where is it,
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, are we actually questioning that this isn't real now this point saw me and I now you can look at the sun Yeah, literally right now and tell that it's real.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I think what Dan saying is that Enrico Fermi and Marie Curie were both demons.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, yeah, that's the only explanation really, but then just call them that you know, but didn't he say he didn't believe Newx existed.
[SPEAKER_10]: He said at some point, right?
[SPEAKER_11]: Uh, he sounded like at first, but I think he that he was like, we didn't invent nukes as basically what he said I think, but what he meant by that is that demons invented it right right which you know evil non-human forces.
[SPEAKER_10]: He didn't say demons specifically I said they were demonic mod if then he said evil non-human forces is the quote
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, nonhuman.
[SPEAKER_03]: That are our demonic.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they ghost then like, what are they?
[SPEAKER_03]: Who did this?
[SPEAKER_03]: This all of this is is fucked hard crazy to me.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I just can't I can't do it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I like how the guy in the last interview said Oppenheimer was like she did not see the movie.
[SPEAKER_03]: We we figured it out then, you know, we were all good on that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, he specifically said he wasn't going to let that stuff in his house.
[SPEAKER_02]: Good.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's demonic.
[SPEAKER_02]: Good.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he shouldn't.
[SPEAKER_02]: He shouldn't.
[SPEAKER_07]: All right.
[SPEAKER_07]: Now's the point in the show.
[SPEAKER_07]: Fuck.
[SPEAKER_03]: What a wild one.
[SPEAKER_03]: We get to the drink, it broke of the week.
[SPEAKER_03]: You could submit on drinkingbrows.com, flock on her shirt.
[SPEAKER_03]: So dude, I've been saying this for, I don't know, last two weeks of it, but out of these shirts being on fire, we just had an incident in Wilmington yesterday.
[SPEAKER_03]: So people identified this flock camera and posted it on one of those city websites and they're saying, hey,
[SPEAKER_03]: Here's where this is, do or not do what you want with it.
[SPEAKER_03]: This flock shit, a hunting for flock machines is going on everywhere.
[SPEAKER_03]: Man, yeah, and then, of course, slew brings up the tank top out of all of it, Luke.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's, you know,
[SPEAKER_03]: It's very rare I see a grown man on a tank top these days, but God bless you there that we make them for ladies too.
[SPEAKER_03]: And yeah, like I said, bro box is going to fire these Yellowstone 2026 car wheel champion shirts have been on fire as well.
[SPEAKER_03]: And you can submit for drinking bro of the week on there.
[SPEAKER_03]: You can also submit on the app.
[SPEAKER_03]: Phone cases, I got the phone case right here, Boobang, and it gets submitted to his live.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is Dr. Gibro submission Eli C. From North Carolina, says he's a day one, homie, wants to nominate anonymous, still active, duty, who's living, says, what's up, Dr. Gibro's.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm writing this to nominate the Dr. Gibro of the week.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's for you, Ross, he says.
[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm keeping his name anonymous because he's still active duty, so I'm just going to call him my brother.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not usually one to get sappy, but there are some debts that you can never repay.
[SPEAKER_03]: And some people who change your world just by being it.
[SPEAKER_03]: That man is that person for me.
[SPEAKER_03]: Years ago in Afghanistan, when everything went sideways in the world was burning
[SPEAKER_03]: because of his actions, his courage and his refusal to leave me behind, I got to come home.
[SPEAKER_03]: Every single day I wake up every single milestone I hit and every breath I take is because of him.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not just what he did over there, though.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's who he is every single day.
[SPEAKER_03]: He is without a doubt the most down to earth, selfless and giving human being I have ever.
[SPEAKER_03]: known.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's an incredible father or pours his entire heart into his kids and he's the kind of guy whose presence just lifts a room.
[SPEAKER_03]: He would drop absolutely everything to help a brother and need and he would literally hands you the last dollar and go hungry himself if it meant you were taking care of.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right now he's trying to build something to help our veteran community around Fort Bragg and their families outside of the traditional corporate bullshit that we're all tired of seeing.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's got, go, fund me in, he says he's tagging us on accident.
[SPEAKER_03]: So we'll look for that, and we can share it and get support.
[SPEAKER_03]: He is no idea, I'm sending this, and I want to keep it that way.
[SPEAKER_03]: I just want him to get the support he deserves, and I want all the drinking bros to know that there are still good men out there fighting the good fight for veterans.
[SPEAKER_03]: I nominate my brother.
[SPEAKER_03]: for drinking bro of the week.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's my brother.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's my savior and the definition of a true drinking bro.
[SPEAKER_03]: Day one homie and avid.
[SPEAKER_03]: Puyah!
[SPEAKER_03]: Supporter he says.
[SPEAKER_03]: Cheers, Jets.
[SPEAKER_03]: And that was from him.
[SPEAKER_03]: Is he, are we giving him a double one there?
[SPEAKER_03]: You're cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I do.
[SPEAKER_03]: At least throw the music.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're a man of the people.
[SPEAKER_03]: You gotta double-poo you others, since you put it in all caps there, I'll give you a second one.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't mind, I work for you at the end of the day for Christ's Sakes.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, go to iTunes, rate the show of five star and leave a quick review.
[SPEAKER_03]: Also, head on over to Spotify and Kels digging them up, dude.
[SPEAKER_03]: I love that dude, man.
[SPEAKER_03]: There is some weird fucking episodes he found from the past, man.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm talking like the 200s that popped up.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's like, get the email every day.
[SPEAKER_03]: Of what he's put up, and I'm like, where the fuck is he finding this?
[SPEAKER_03]: That dude's a gangster.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, he ain't fucking, like, criminal justice or something before this?
[SPEAKER_11]: I mean, you think, I mean, when he puts his mind on something, he will figure it out.
[SPEAKER_03]: He is.
[SPEAKER_03]: fucking awesome man so yeah it's uh it's cool to see but uh but cheers cheers to you guys and thank you for your support day in and day out for David Anthony all the way I'm Ross Patterson this drink and bro is podcast good night everyone