[UNKNOWN]: Welcome to comics versus where the lorhounds I'm your host David and I'm still waiting to learn what the plural form of each it is.
[UNKNOWN]: But with me here today, his heart screams out just as for sheepy is my dear friend and co-host Jean, Jean, how you doing?
[UNKNOWN]: I'm good, man.
[UNKNOWN]: And listen, I have no fear.
[UNKNOWN]: And would really like to get me one of these freaking rings.
[UNKNOWN]: This is our episode to episode coverage of Season One of Lantern's episode one titled pilot.
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[UNKNOWN]: should I watch this is something I want to watch what we're going to do is we're going to have our intro section up until the first break all spoiler free we're just talking in generalities we'll set up the premise for the show so what's published out there if you watch the trailer or something like that just that basic information you have some background lore for us so people who don't know about the green lantern story verse and that part of the story
[UNKNOWN]: You can, uh, uh, John, you'll, you can get a sort of oriented and give us a little bit of context for what's going on.
[UNKNOWN]: Then we'll talk about our fresh takes, what we thought of the episode again, spoiler free.
[UNKNOWN]: Then we'll take a break and then we'll get into the scene by scene breakdown of the episode.
[UNKNOWN]: So that sounds pretty good.
[UNKNOWN]: that sounds awesome.
[UNKNOWN]: And I see Alicia just posted in our production server that she's got some feedback too, so I'll read that when we get to our fresh takes section all include her, because
[UNKNOWN]: We're still working out the details.
[UNKNOWN]: Alicia is deep in the silo in the middle of silo coverage.
[UNKNOWN]: And her and Luke are covering that episode episode.
[UNKNOWN]: They have book club stuff going on.
[UNKNOWN]: They've got weekly breakdowns.
[UNKNOWN]: They are deep into the silo world.
[UNKNOWN]: But I know she's very excited about the show.
[UNKNOWN]: And hopefully the three of us can maybe cover the show, maybe make up for the show that she'll not be named.
[UNKNOWN]: This feels like that.
[UNKNOWN]: This feels like what we expected from that show, right, doesn't it?
[UNKNOWN]: A little bit, a little bit, yes.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, with the intrigue and the mystery and like the grittyness of it all, so I'm really excited.
[UNKNOWN]: So I am technically covering for Alicia for these first few episodes, but then once Alicia gets clear, we'll figure out how we're going to do it, but I don't think I want to break away from the show.
[UNKNOWN]: So it'll just be a figuring out of how we do our schedule for the week and that kind of stuff.
[UNKNOWN]: But I've got a message from Alicia, so we'll include that in just a second.
[UNKNOWN]: So let me get out of the Lisa, get in doing all the hard work.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I appreciate you.
[UNKNOWN]: I appreciate you.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, they got that spider-man out, and thank you for that.
[UNKNOWN]: And I can't wait to talk to her in conjunction with you about what we are currently.
[UNKNOWN]: Because I think you've got some X-Men coverage coming up at the end of the month, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we do with she and I are going to talk about X-Men 97 season 2.
[UNKNOWN]: Nice.
[UNKNOWN]: So a lot of stuff is happening.
[UNKNOWN]: Right, because you're out actually technically on vacation.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm you know, I'm I'm somewhere in the.
[UNKNOWN]: I guess I'm in the south.
[UNKNOWN]: Beautiful coastal east coast of the of the Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's right enjoying some family time.
[UNKNOWN]: So thanks for breaking away from the family time to come with this show.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think they're fine without me.
[UNKNOWN]: They're okay.
[UNKNOWN]: The sounds good.
[UNKNOWN]: That's good.
[UNKNOWN]: So anyway, let's set up to show a little bit.
[UNKNOWN]: This is an eight-episode HBO Max.
[UNKNOWN]: Is there a difference anymore?
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know, but it's a series from the DC Studios and Warner Brothers.
[UNKNOWN]: It's created by Chris Mundi, Damon Lindeloff, and Tom King, with Mundi as the show runner and James Gunn and Peter Saffron as some of the executive producers.
[UNKNOWN]: It premiered yesterday, relative to when
[UNKNOWN]: It's going to be airing weekly on Sundays at 9 p.m. Eastern through October 4th, Kyle Chandler plays a veteran green lamp, the veteran green lantern, Hal Jordan, and Aaron Pierre plays a new recruit, John Stuart Jr., technically he's a junior, intergalactic peacekeepers whose rings can conjure whatever their will can imagine.
[UNKNOWN]: The season follows them into a murder in Rushville, Nebraska that how reads as an alien incursion unfolding across 2016.
[UNKNOWN]: And 2026 in the James gun DC verse world, I believe is this is this show lining up with the larger DC and it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is,
[UNKNOWN]: The cool thing about the show is you don't need to know nothing about anything.
[UNKNOWN]: You can watch this show straight.
[UNKNOWN]: It's a buddy cop, it's a murder mystery, it's, we'll talk a little bit a little bit a little bit more about.
[UNKNOWN]: that concurrent events in the sort of things that Lindeloff is talking to us about from his point of view, because he loves to embed social commentary into his shows.
[UNKNOWN]: But this show is straight up.
[UNKNOWN]: You don't know, you need to know anything about Green Lanterns, because they explain everything in the show.
[UNKNOWN]: From at the end, it's a masterful job.
[UNKNOWN]: I have never seen
[UNKNOWN]: Well, maybe that that's maybe never as a strong word, but that I'll take it, I'll take it, it's okay, keep never keep never okay, some of the some of this exposition set up is some of the best that I have ever seen developing character setting up rules for the world.
[UNKNOWN]: all the while pushing the stakes forward of the show, so we're not like, oh, pause the action, do the exposition dump over here, and then now hit play again, and we start.
[UNKNOWN]: It all moves forward all simultaneously, and I am not a comic book, aficionado, like you are, or her Alicia is.
[UNKNOWN]: And I knew a little bit about the Green Lantern structure frame.
[UNKNOWN]: We're just a basics of it.
[UNKNOWN]: I maybe I saw the Ryan Reynolds movie like a gazillion years ago.
[UNKNOWN]: I have no idea.
[UNKNOWN]: Good.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, right.
[UNKNOWN]: We wouldn't talk about that.
[UNKNOWN]: But I don't know that much.
[UNKNOWN]: And I never felt disoriented or lost in this.
[UNKNOWN]: They just handled it so well.
[UNKNOWN]: But I think it would be helpful.
[UNKNOWN]: If you were able to set up a little bit of introductory lore for us, just so that we have some context going into it.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so I'm gonna, I'm not gonna go deep deep, obviously, but I will give you a couple of quick primers.
[UNKNOWN]: So the Green Lantern Corp and DC Comics, you think of them as a universal, galactic peacekeepers, but not that kind, not the kind that I don't like.
[UNKNOWN]: Everybody knows, I don't like those kinds, but this is different, they're different.
[UNKNOWN]: All right, peacekeepers, we're not that.
[UNKNOWN]: All right.
[UNKNOWN]: So the way these rings and the rings are powered by will, the Green Lantern Court, right, and DC Comics, there's something called the Emotional Electromagnetic Spectrum and each color corresponds to a different emotional state that someone would have
[UNKNOWN]: power yourself.
[UNKNOWN]: You can use that energy and channel it into absolutely physical constructs, right?
[UNKNOWN]: So you have red, which is rage, orange, which is Everest.
[UNKNOWN]: Yellow is fear.
[UNKNOWN]: Green is will.
[UNKNOWN]: Blue is hope.
[UNKNOWN]: Indigo is compassion, violet is love, gray is sorrow, black is death, white is life, and these colors, when you're wearing a ring, you can use those emotions to create things.
[UNKNOWN]: and green lanterns use their willpower, use the power of their will to actually create constructs.
[UNKNOWN]: So that's what you see how Jordan doing in this show and that's why it's green and why they're lanterns.
[UNKNOWN]: God.
[UNKNOWN]: That's why they're green lanterns because the color green equates to one's will in the DC comic universe.
[UNKNOWN]: That's interesting and I'm going to make a note because there's something
[UNKNOWN]: the cold open break.
[UNKNOWN]: There's something, I don't know if you caught it, but I'm going to make a go, I'm going to go make a no really quick in that outline so that we talk about it.
[UNKNOWN]: But carry on with the background.
[UNKNOWN]: That's all interesting, too, because I didn't know any of the things about that.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know why they were called Green Lanterns.
[UNKNOWN]: So the people who created this Green Lantern corpse did a guardians of the universe and they're presumed to be the first sentient life in DC universe.
[UNKNOWN]: They are not immortal beings.
[UNKNOWN]: One of their kind, many billions of years ago started a war.
[UNKNOWN]: kill a lot of people, they felt bad, and a segment of that population left their planet mouth to us and went to the planet OA and they formed the corps in a way to make it happen.
[UNKNOWN]: Sorry, for those who know that's for the heads, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, they want to hear you say these things and they form the core To make a men's you know to send people out into the universe in order to prevent and stop evil So we have that then you have Hal Jordan who is the first human green lantern It was thought that humans did not deserve
[UNKNOWN]: to be green lanterns, Earth is considered in DC Comics as a backwater that we are not sophisticated, not intelligent enough, and not in control of ourselves enough as inhabitants of this planet of Earth to wield the power of the emotional, electro-meagnetic spectrum.
[UNKNOWN]: character development becomes possibly the greatest Green Lantern that has ever existed.
[UNKNOWN]: So that's who Hal Jordan is.
[UNKNOWN]: John Stewart is quite possibly the second greatest Green Lantern that has ever existed.
[UNKNOWN]: And he is the third Green Lantern of Human Origins.
[UNKNOWN]: The second would be Guy Gardner, who most of us, if you've seen the Superman film from 2025, which is last year, the first entry movie for the DCU universe that James Gunn set up.
[UNKNOWN]: He is actually the Green Lantern in that film.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, so does this fit in then with this?
[UNKNOWN]: Hi, I'm A.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, all right, all right, all right, all right, fair.
[UNKNOWN]: The mysteries, there are a lot of mysteries here.
[UNKNOWN]: They said a lot of mysteries here.
[UNKNOWN]: Cool.
[UNKNOWN]: We're talking about it at the end because the end of this episode sets up some stuff that we have questions about.
[UNKNOWN]: It got, I'm so excited for this show.
[UNKNOWN]: I like, I can't, I don't know if people are out there listening to like Gital, how like hyped up I am.
[UNKNOWN]: but the construction of this episode for a murder mystery sort of plot, cop procedural thing, it's so good.
[UNKNOWN]: It just by the numbers textbook, boom, boom, boom, set it up so that the first episode out, like we're already running at full velocity.
[UNKNOWN]: And the ending scene of the first episode is just like, wait a minute, what is going on?
[UNKNOWN]: Like, I'm hooked, I'm ready to go, give me next week right now.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if you've got any more background that feels like that's all that's really enough.
[UNKNOWN]: But like you said, you don't need to have known any of this stuff in order to watch this series because they do such a great job of explaining.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: They really do.
[UNKNOWN]: Do you want to lead into your fresh takes in?
[UNKNOWN]: Sure.
[UNKNOWN]: We've got Alicia's and then I've got my notes too.
[UNKNOWN]: Um, I think the opening with John and his family was, it's, it's, must see TV.
[UNKNOWN]: I, I, I, I was glued.
[UNKNOWN]: and totally like, oh, what am I watching here?
[UNKNOWN]: What is going on in this show?
[UNKNOWN]: Because that was totally unexpected.
[UNKNOWN]: And really well done to show what type of person John is and why.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
[UNKNOWN]: right now.
[UNKNOWN]: We're trying to keep it a little bit.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
[UNKNOWN]: So I'm not going into what what happened, but yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: But there is a lot of character set up right away.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
[UNKNOWN]: You can feel the tension between John and and how immediately it's noticeable for me as is the chemistry.
[UNKNOWN]: And I think like I said, there's multiple mysteries that we have to solve.
[UNKNOWN]: And
[UNKNOWN]: We don't have to wait to figure out their multiple mysteries that need to be solved.
[UNKNOWN]: We know there are things that need to be gotten to the bottom of and how we get there is going to be a journey.
[UNKNOWN]: And I think this is going to be an enjoyable journey.
[UNKNOWN]: And the last thing I'll say is being the first of anything can always be rough.
[UNKNOWN]: So here's the Alicia's notes right now.
[UNKNOWN]: She just posted on our Discord.
[UNKNOWN]: Watching the episode now and loving it, exclamation point.
[UNKNOWN]: If you guys want to share my two cents so far, she says phenomenally well constructed from a filmmaking perspective, heart agree, really good cinematography, great shot setups.
[UNKNOWN]: Just the right balance between exposition and intrigue, also agree,
[UNKNOWN]: like the way that they set up character and plot and the rules of the world, but also create this really compelling mystery, very good.
[UNKNOWN]: She says, John already feels like a full character.
[UNKNOWN]: They've managed to do that difficult thing of showing why a character is reserved while showing his depth at the same time.
[UNKNOWN]: Thought I did, I would assume that you agree with this comment.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, yeah, I agree with everything so far.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: She continues.
[UNKNOWN]: I think 1996 is the earliest we've seen in the DCU timeline question mark except I guess to say peacemakers childhood, but seeing how Jordan on TV gives a better sense of why the scent better sense of the world at that time, right?
[UNKNOWN]: So that's part of the opening cold open sequence.
[UNKNOWN]: So I assume that that's correct that 96.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we've seen on screen for movies and everything like that.
[UNKNOWN]: and she concludes really excited to see where the show goes and can't wait to hear what you guys have to say.
[UNKNOWN]: Neither can we, at least show, we can't wait to finish the episode and hopefully we'll, I know you're busy with silo but like let's hope that we get a, maybe a crossover event at some point and until you get free of that and then can come back over here full time, we'll see.
[UNKNOWN]: First, the 9 p.m. Primetime Slotge on, that's a heavy, heavy load for a superhero show to carry.
[UNKNOWN]: Don't you think?
[UNKNOWN]: I've said before that they have James Gunn, DC Studios.
[UNKNOWN]: has a lot riding on the show.
[UNKNOWN]: Uh-huh.
[UNKNOWN]: There's so much on this show right now.
[UNKNOWN]: And at 9 PMs, like, just shows how confident that they were in this show.
[UNKNOWN]: To drop it, to draft it right in behind house the dragons.
[UNKNOWN]: Right behind?
[UNKNOWN]: No break.
[UNKNOWN]: And that's smart.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I think that's from, from an HBO standpoint, they need to, that's not that Sunday 9 PM Eastern time
[UNKNOWN]: and just lock us down.
[UNKNOWN]: That's appointment television, man.
[UNKNOWN]: That is like, that is prime for what we do as pod gasters, eight episode length, all of that stuff.
[UNKNOWN]: It's like it just fits so squarely in our box.
[UNKNOWN]: And like Alicia said, the construction and the filmmaking from that perspective, this is some prestige TV making.
[UNKNOWN]: The rack focus, the cinematography, the lineups, all of the shots are really simple, but also really work.
[UNKNOWN]: The lighting is really good.
[UNKNOWN]: It's not too dark.
[UNKNOWN]: It's not too light.
[UNKNOWN]: as just really, really smart, and I said this already, that all of the character development and all of the exposition never pauses the plot development and never stops the forward motion of the show.
[UNKNOWN]: So it could be a bar room conversation, it could be driving somewhere, you know, it's sort of an interstitial scene, every single piece of dialogue,
[UNKNOWN]: moves the story forward, sets the stakes, clarifies the rules, puts characters into conflict, tightens that conflict, releases that conflict, it's just brilliant.
[UNKNOWN]: And the dialogue is so snappy, it's so funny, the each hit line, like I love that line, that was like, so good, we'll get
[UNKNOWN]: Lindeloff.
[UNKNOWN]: So you and I spoke on the phone earlier today when we're trying to get some logistics planned up.
[UNKNOWN]: And we were both like, yo, this is like love craft country, watchman, back before you and I were podcasters, we would call each other up, texting each other, going, hey, what do you, whoa, like I can't believe they're saying this.
[UNKNOWN]: I can't believe they're going there with this.
[UNKNOWN]: And one of the things that I really am enjoying about what Linda Lough does in his brand of storytelling is that he will bring in real world scenarios and real world situations.
[UNKNOWN]: And then he will give social commentary about those things.
[UNKNOWN]: Racism, mass shootings, xenophobia, truth and lie, post truth, world stuff.
[UNKNOWN]: All of this,
[UNKNOWN]: social commentary, but then that's the thing that was so great about lovecraft and and watchman and was that they're using extraordinary storytelling.
[UNKNOWN]: in this inverted form.
[UNKNOWN]: So it's not like, oh, hey, racist.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, like the bad guys are racist, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, okay, well, you know, whatever.
[UNKNOWN]: No, they're creating these hyper worlds where you can really see the shape and the depth and the scope of it and how destructive and how poison is something like this is.
[UNKNOWN]: And it just, it's elevated storytelling and social commentary at the same time.
[UNKNOWN]: and it is just such satisfying television.
[UNKNOWN]: It's just such satisfying storytelling that we can plumb these depths and have all of these, we can have super hero stuff at the same time, we can have, oh, we have some social hills in our country that we really need to confront and deal with.
[UNKNOWN]: There's that interrogation scene where, I can't say anymore, I gotta stop right there, but anyway,
[UNKNOWN]: They even call it out as part of the dialogue.
[UNKNOWN]: It's so good.
[UNKNOWN]: And I just love, and so I had this thought.
[UNKNOWN]: And I wanted to see what you think about this.
[UNKNOWN]: But as lindle off,
[UNKNOWN]: to the DCU doing what Gilroy did with Andor for Star Wars in this moment with this show.
[UNKNOWN]: Because this doesn't feel like anything else sort of done.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm no expert on the rest of the DCI show.
[UNKNOWN]: Like this is like you've got to check me on this.
[UNKNOWN]: But is this kind of a Gilroy level play where they kind of have this outsider person?
[UNKNOWN]: I mean,
[UNKNOWN]: Little of knows DC, like I'm not saying he doesn't, but he's almost kind of this outside force that comes in with this whole other, he's not attached to anything else and he can just tell the story and this really raw and gritty, I don't know, is that am I off base with this?
[UNKNOWN]: No, I don't, I don't think you are in this way.
[UNKNOWN]: Moody, the director, and the comic writer, Tom King.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, Tom King is integral to this story as well, being told.
[UNKNOWN]: Lindolph is, you know, just based on what we saw him do with Watchman, and what we're seeing now in this very first episode, I'm gonna have to agree with you.
[UNKNOWN]: that, yes, he's taken to the DCU what the world did with Android to Star Wars universe.
[UNKNOWN]: because for everything that we love that I love about comic books and comic book movies and TV shows and all the fantastical elements that you know, I want my magical shit and everything that I watch.
[UNKNOWN]: I made it a lot of movies.
[UNKNOWN]: You got broke without it.
[UNKNOWN]: She wasn't waving her wand during that, exactly.
[UNKNOWN]: So I make no apologies for that.
[UNKNOWN]: The thing is, though, when you can, when you know that these things do exist in the universe that they're creating, that they're crafting, but they give it to you in a way that is, you know, very familiar to your everyday life.
[UNKNOWN]: That is something else, right?
[UNKNOWN]: And I think that's something that he has tapped into first with Watchman, and with how he's collaborated with Tom King and Emudi on this show.
[UNKNOWN]: I can't wait to talk about a couple of scenes coming up at the ranch and the interrogation, because,
[UNKNOWN]: He just handles this complex, these social complexities, so well, and encodes and embeds.
[UNKNOWN]: There's so much iconography that is embedded in here, so much modern social, ill stuff.
[UNKNOWN]: It's just, and yet it's superhero, right?
[UNKNOWN]: It's superhero, exactly.
[UNKNOWN]: We, it's so good.
[UNKNOWN]: It's so good.
[UNKNOWN]: All right.
[UNKNOWN]: So what we need to do is take our first break.
[UNKNOWN]: We're going to come back and then we're going to get into the scene by scene, but if you're undecided about the show, check out the first episode at least.
[UNKNOWN]: This is prestige TV.
[UNKNOWN]: It's HBO, full HBO quality.
[UNKNOWN]: Not HBO Max.
[UNKNOWN]: This is like straight up HBO quality.
[UNKNOWN]: and if you want to see two really great actors playing off of each other and you like a murder mystery and you like a buddy cop drama procedural stuff, this has got all of that going on and so much more.
[UNKNOWN]: So all right, so let's take a break and we'll come back, we'll get into it.
[UNKNOWN]: And we're back, and we're going to get into spoilers running into our scene by scene breakdown.
[UNKNOWN]: And we're going to start in 1996 with the opening.
[UNKNOWN]: We have young John Stuart Jr. and his brothers watching a 60-minute interview with Hal Jordan, Earth's first Green Lantern.
[UNKNOWN]: John Stuart Sr. the father arrives home in military fatigues, and the kids weren't supposed to be
[UNKNOWN]: And he takes young John Jr. outside to a bullet scarred wall.
[UNKNOWN]: He sets an apple on John Jr's head and shoots it off without John flinching.
[UNKNOWN]: And then they go and get some hamburgers.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, it's like normal.
[UNKNOWN]: What the hell?
[UNKNOWN]: What did you make of this opening scene, John?
[UNKNOWN]: It's like I said, it was riveting because
[UNKNOWN]: and everything got silent, and it was dark, and it was just full of menacing sort of dread.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, like you could feel it, like these kids were like, oh shit, you know, this is his home type of situation.
[UNKNOWN]: And then it takes a real hard notice coming back.
[UNKNOWN]: Exactly.
[UNKNOWN]: Then it takes them out.
[UNKNOWN]: First of all, guys, and what was his name?
[UNKNOWN]: And then it takes them outside, and says to Apple on his head,
[UNKNOWN]: got the hell in william tell us how happened and it wasn't going on.
[UNKNOWN]: And it takes out the gun and he asks the question, are you afraid?
[UNKNOWN]: And young John is like, no, boom, give them a hug and let's go get some burgers.
[UNKNOWN]: Like, what type of childhood is that?
[UNKNOWN]: The right, right.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, and then I think sometimes we especially try to make men of our boys toughen them up for the world that they're about to encounter, especially young black boys.
[UNKNOWN]: because this world is not kind to you.
[UNKNOWN]: And we have to make you prepared at an early age to deal with the shit that you're about to encounter.
[UNKNOWN]: And I don't want you to be fearful about none of it because you are not going to be afraid about none of them.
[UNKNOWN]: And I watched that, I was like, fuck.
[UNKNOWN]: because this is something I think about when am I going to have to talk with my son?
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: When am I going to toughen him up?
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: And it's always a thing, you know, I have friends, other friends who I've said, oh, you know, it was going on with little men.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm like, now he's not a little man.
[UNKNOWN]: But it's just what, you know, it's no, he's still a little boy.
[UNKNOWN]: still a child, but I know this world won't see him as a child soon enough, and that's going to be something that we will have to deal with.
[UNKNOWN]: And watching his father in that moment, I thought about how would I deal with this eventuality?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: This is awesome.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I didn't even pick up.
[UNKNOWN]: That's
[UNKNOWN]: that in sight, I'm, you know, my, my daughter is going to be facing different challenges.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
[UNKNOWN]: And we don't have black skin.
[UNKNOWN]: And so that's even in different set of challenge.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: There's a whole other different set there.
[UNKNOWN]: And this is a super hero of show David.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: the comic book show.
[UNKNOWN]: And that's what I was about to lead into is that Lindelloff berries this stuff in here in ways that I like I didn't even that didn't even occur to me about having the talk with us with a black son in America in the 2020s, right?
[UNKNOWN]: But it's there it's there in the first scene it's there in the opening that we are having to deal with.
[UNKNOWN]: social construct.
[UNKNOWN]: The stuff that we have that's embedded in our society.
[UNKNOWN]: And he's not flinching from it.
[UNKNOWN]: No, nor does John Jr. flinch from it.
[UNKNOWN]: No.
[UNKNOWN]: But Linda Lough does not flint that camera does not flinch.
[UNKNOWN]: It doesn't.
[UNKNOWN]: It doesn't give us a moment to even breathe.
[UNKNOWN]: because you're riveted to what the hell's happening.
[UNKNOWN]: And you're like, wait a minute, how is this?
[UNKNOWN]: What is this guy shooting a gun on?
[UNKNOWN]: First of all, he's wearing a Marine, he's wearing camouflage uniform with a belt.
[UNKNOWN]: He kind of codes as military police, kind of an MP-centric guard type to me.
[UNKNOWN]: That's what I'm coding for off of reading the coding of his uniform.
[UNKNOWN]: But he says US Marines on his uniform jacket.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know why he's not checking in his service side arm at base like why is he bringing a gun ohm what neighbor is not calling the police when they hear gun shots because there's multiple gun shots on that wall like you would mark your kids stand them up against the wall and mark how high they are you know every few bonds every few years right and you have that history of your child on the wall.
[UNKNOWN]: He has done this more than once, this is like a normal occurrence for him.
[UNKNOWN]: That's crazy, it's absolutely, and I am familiar with firearms.
[UNKNOWN]: I have had firearms training that looked like a Beretta 92 F to me.
[UNKNOWN]: That was a standard military sidearm that was adopted.
[UNKNOWN]: It's a 9 millimeter.
[UNKNOWN]: It's a very accurate weapon.
[UNKNOWN]: But I am sorry, the difference between your child's head and an apple, that's just insane to me.
[UNKNOWN]: And it's just in seeing that any apparent would ever do that.
[UNKNOWN]: And that's the thing, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Because God, after he does it, you can feel like this man, he's not doing it as a punishment.
[UNKNOWN]: No, he's not doing it out of malice, right?
[UNKNOWN]: And he hugs his son.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm happy, you know, and let's go get burgers, and then he looks back at the garage door.
[UNKNOWN]: Like contemplating, like, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: And then we fade out from that scene.
[UNKNOWN]: To, and it's just like, wow, this is someone who feels like he's actually doing right by his kid.
[UNKNOWN]: Which is crazy that he's pointing a gun
[UNKNOWN]: It's such a conflicting set of emotions.
[UNKNOWN]: Such a con.
[UNKNOWN]: So what does that do to the kid?
[UNKNOWN]: Right, exactly.
[UNKNOWN]: But that's what it's interesting, too.
[UNKNOWN]: This is a later when we talk about this whole new fear thing, right?
[UNKNOWN]: The ring, no fear.
[UNKNOWN]: He has John Jr. has the no fear in him already.
[UNKNOWN]: because I think that's what the ring I'm just guessing like I don't know the ring like you know the ring.
[UNKNOWN]: But like you can't have fearing your bones.
[UNKNOWN]: You have to be that kind of person where your nervous system is just like nah it's cool man.
[UNKNOWN]: It's in him and his father's just grooming it in him.
[UNKNOWN]: He's taking a natural talent and he's
[UNKNOWN]: developing it like the Williams sister's father did or I think was Tiger Woods's father did.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm pulling for sports analogies.
[UNKNOWN]: No, yeah, golf tennis, you know, we're going to prepare you for these for these worlds and you're going to be the best at these things.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: you could be an actor, you could be a dancer, you could be a, you know, I see we were out camping recently or was watching this kid on his bike, pop and wheelies and doing all these jumps and stuff from like, dang, you know, when his father is coaching him and stuff like that and like, so yeah, there's a natural talent there and the parent sees it and is his cultivating it.
[UNKNOWN]: But it's so interesting because just prior to this, they were watching the first sit down interview with how Jordan the first earth's first green lantern, like nobody's actually interviewed him and what's how Jordan talking about losing his father.
[UNKNOWN]: And, you know, once you've lost a parent, you as a kid don't have anything to fear anymore.
[UNKNOWN]: Now we can quibble with that, but like that's a premise of the show in the character.
[UNKNOWN]: So it's so interesting that they set this father sun construction up between these two, you know, soon to be yes.
[UNKNOWN]: But he caught partners.
[UNKNOWN]: And I don't know, like, when Hal says that to the camera, and he got it, you know, he's during the interview, he says, oh, well, you know, my father died when he was eight or whatever as a test pilot, I'm a test pilot too.
[UNKNOWN]: And having lost my parents, you know, there's no greater fear.
[UNKNOWN]: Man, I don't know about you, but like as a parent, my greatest fear is the opposite.
[UNKNOWN]: It's losing my child, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, God, yes.
[UNKNOWN]: My first two years as a parent was just too fracking.
[UNKNOWN]: That was the first two years.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm in year 10.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm still, well, I'm chill.
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe I'm better at like chill being chill, but like, I used to have like chill.
[UNKNOWN]: I got no chill.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not going to chill.
[UNKNOWN]: I got no chill.
[UNKNOWN]: Is he still living the city?
[UNKNOWN]: I moved out then, I'm chilled out now.
[UNKNOWN]: The mom Donnie said is different, okay?
[UNKNOWN]: There's just me clear about it.
[UNKNOWN]: We're not going to take no slides to mom Donnie said.
[UNKNOWN]: I got to come back, bring your children, your children, enjoy everything that mom Donnie said.
[UNKNOWN]: There's no playgrounds, okay?
[UNKNOWN]: A lot of you can't stay, but you come visit.
[UNKNOWN]: That's fair enough.
[UNKNOWN]: but that this whole thing, two of parents and then later, we get to set up for fear versus loneliness.
[UNKNOWN]: Like I love that and we all, and that gets all set up in this, but like two or three minutes in.
[UNKNOWN]: And then the shoot thing, they set up the suit thing.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, he's wearing the suit.
[UNKNOWN]: He's wearing the suit, yep.
[UNKNOWN]: Later, he doesn't.
[UNKNOWN]: Is there, and this whole thing is just a giant exposition, like I was saying before, just a really great exposition dump that moves everything forward.
[UNKNOWN]: Is the Victoria Falls media or anything important canonically speaking, or was that something that the show just threw in there?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I got a flag, I got a flag back to you.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
[UNKNOWN]: All right.
[UNKNOWN]: It didn't settle.
[UNKNOWN]: Any aligns for me.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
[UNKNOWN]: Got it.
[UNKNOWN]: All right.
[UNKNOWN]: So let's jump to 2016.
[UNKNOWN]: We cut.
[UNKNOWN]: to adult John, working out at the gym, and then he goes out to wait for Hal, and his training is like training day as a backup.
[UNKNOWN]: So he's been training for two months now apparently.
[UNKNOWN]: Hal arrives late and hung over.
[UNKNOWN]: We've got Boogie Shoes blasting out on the radio as the drive through the desert hills, how continues to go to a needle John, exasperated at John's politeness
[UNKNOWN]: Hallehens, John, the ring, then tells him to meet it, to talk or stand up the road.
[UNKNOWN]: And then he jumps out of the moving car as get down tonight plays and the car goes off the road.
[UNKNOWN]: And then we cut to the Odoopening title graphic.
[UNKNOWN]: Thoughts on on this scene here, this opening set up.
[UNKNOWN]: This immediately sets up, sets them up as.
[UNKNOWN]: I love it.
[UNKNOWN]: I love the back and forth that they had in this moment and you can see the tension between them.
[UNKNOWN]: There's one ring.
[UNKNOWN]: You know what I mean?
[UNKNOWN]: You don't shed a ring really.
[UNKNOWN]: It's one ring.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: And the only way you get a ring is if the previous ring's owner has died.
[UNKNOWN]: Will Smith got his own suit and flashy thing in glasses right there were multiples of that right in this world There's one of that right there's one ring for you one lantern time To be told that you're training your replacement Right in case something happens in case that person is needed That's a hell of a thing because how knows
[UNKNOWN]: If I'm the only way he's going to get this, is if I'm dead, what does that do?
[UNKNOWN]: And is that normal for Greenland turns to have a, I think that's some of the tension.
[UNKNOWN]: And so in the comics, John Stewart, I want to say 1971 is the first appearance of John Stewart.
[UNKNOWN]: The guardians did come to how say we want to train someone to be sort of like a backup for you in case we need it.
[UNKNOWN]: Not in case you're dead but in case something happens and we need to have someone else take over the sector for a while while you do whatever you need to do while you need to heal or whatever and they chose John's story.
[UNKNOWN]: And that is how, in the comics, they come to know each other.
[UNKNOWN]: Interesting.
[UNKNOWN]: So this is much of the same canonical lines.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, much of the same set up here.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
[UNKNOWN]: So a couple of things that I picked up here with adult John Stuart training, it shows us that he can fight that he's physical right.
[UNKNOWN]: He's obviously a physically buzzing kind of guy.
[UNKNOWN]: This looks like maybe Los Angeles and I don't know if it's supposed to be said in LA, but it certainly was the LA skyline in one of the LA bridges.
[UNKNOWN]: I can't tell what kind of car was that?
[UNKNOWN]: It's not a cut list.
[UNKNOWN]: Was that an old?
[UNKNOWN]: No, it was a cut list.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not sure if it was a cut list.
[UNKNOWN]: Was it the Starsky and Hutch car?
[UNKNOWN]: I can't.
[UNKNOWN]: That's what I, that's the thing that came to mind for me.
[UNKNOWN]: And I don't even know what that car was.
[UNKNOWN]: That was a grand Torino.
[UNKNOWN]: But no, it's not a grand Torino.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not a car guy, Pete.
[UNKNOWN]: No, I just want you guys to know I'm not a car guy.
[UNKNOWN]: I know when somebody writes in and tells us what that car is, we'll be like, oh, of course, it's that car or whatever, but they do a really good job of covering up whatever it is.
[UNKNOWN]: We learned that he was away for two weeks on Farron 4, which was a planet that was on the verge of a civil war, which is also interesting, right?
[UNKNOWN]: There's, there's a little something.
[UNKNOWN]: Civil War, right, you know, tensions.
[UNKNOWN]: We established that he's been that Stuart's been on the job for just on the job training for just two months now and that he was a stop that he was chosen right we established that the blue guys chose him to be so that's an interesting fact.
[UNKNOWN]: And then and we also get that.
[UNKNOWN]: how is kind of stuck in the past in some ways because he's got booky shoes and get down tonight, both of those are Casey and the Sunshine Band from their 1975 self titled Album.
[UNKNOWN]: Booky shoes was a big hit after it appeared in Saturday night fever on the soundtrack in 77 and then it like I think it hit in the mid 30s on the Billboard 100 and get down to night
[UNKNOWN]: also a really big song, uh, 1975.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm just sort of scanning the notes.
[UNKNOWN]: I think, oh, it hit number one on the U.S. billboard, no, top 100.
[UNKNOWN]: So both popular songs, but they're songs from the past.
[UNKNOWN]: We hear other songs from the past.
[UNKNOWN]: So then we have all of this tension between how and John,
[UNKNOWN]: and how just keeps kneeling him and just being a jerk to and trying to get a reaction to him.
[UNKNOWN]: But that's how that's how Jordan, how Jordan and the comics is that.
[UNKNOWN]: He's a brush, he is cocky, he can be in us, he is this guy, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Who is so, he's so good at wielding the ring.
[UNKNOWN]: right he he's just so skilled at it and he has no problem letting you know that you're not on my level.
[UNKNOWN]: He's a wise guy and he does and that comes through in this scene.
[UNKNOWN]: No sir.
[UNKNOWN]: I've come in his every time you say sir it sounds more and more like fuck you.
[UNKNOWN]: I have no idea sir.
[UNKNOWN]: So good.
[UNKNOWN]: So snappy.
[UNKNOWN]: So smart.
[UNKNOWN]: And we learn about John, you know, growing up with a military father with discipline, we later learned that he was in the military as well.
[UNKNOWN]: How was it was a test pilot?
[UNKNOWN]: But he has been a green lantern for so long.
[UNKNOWN]: that whatever sort of order and discipline that might have surrounded him or cornerstone his character has really washed away, and he's just a jerk.
[UNKNOWN]: He's just a giant jerk to John the whole time, ultimately to the point of like, save your life or get out of the game.
[UNKNOWN]: He bails out of the car.
[UNKNOWN]: And there's nothing like self preservation to kick in your instincts, right in your training.
[UNKNOWN]: And so, you know, it was a jerk move, but it certainly was a good training scenario for John.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know, like, I don't know what did you make in the bubble wrap situation.
[UNKNOWN]: Ah, that's the whole point.
[UNKNOWN]: You have to be able to snap your fingers with just a thought and make shit happen.
[UNKNOWN]: And I think that is what Hall is trying to show him.
[UNKNOWN]: Like, you can be stoic, you can be by the book, you can do all of these things, it's great.
[UNKNOWN]: But when you're out there,
[UNKNOWN]: in space, dealing with shit.
[UNKNOWN]: You have to be able to think quickly on your feet.
[UNKNOWN]: All that other stuff is wonderful and you need it.
[UNKNOWN]: But you also need a spontaneity, the ingenuity.
[UNKNOWN]: You have to have it in order to wield this in the best possible way, because it's not by the book.
[UNKNOWN]: And up to this moment, John, is very much by the book.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: And you could be on another planet where things work different.
[UNKNOWN]: Bubble wrap might not have worked in that.
[UNKNOWN]: So you need to keep life lived.
[UNKNOWN]: And I think that's what's really interesting about house characters we learn is at some point.
[UNKNOWN]: He's not a trained investigator where we'll talk about, let me put a pin in that.
[UNKNOWN]: We'll talk about their character difference.
[UNKNOWN]: So come up later in the next scene, and next Kevin scenes.
[UNKNOWN]: But there's very distinct differences between them.
[UNKNOWN]: and how they arrive at where they arrive.
[UNKNOWN]: And I can't, I'm probably going to end up, there's a bunch of men and black references that just keep coming up and to my mind in this, because John does have natural talent, but he's also trained and developed those talents.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
[UNKNOWN]: Whereas how was a jetjockey as a testjockey, right?
[UNKNOWN]: And he was a wild, you know, he was on the edge,
[UNKNOWN]: But how much does he actually train to be a beat cop for sector two eight one four.
[UNKNOWN]: Don't get the sector right.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, hopefully that's right.
[UNKNOWN]: Anything should we put a pin in fair on four or is that we could put a pin wash and we could put a pin in it, um, actually we don't need to put a pin in that's a wash, but I do want to say on that walk that John took after we're coming up to that okay, okay, yeah, we're going to come up to that real quick.
[UNKNOWN]: So so just as the car goes over the cliff and he grabs the ring.
[UNKNOWN]: The lanterns color, if you go back and you watch that, that is distinctly not green.
[UNKNOWN]: That is a yellow with some green tint to it.
[UNKNOWN]: It is not green.
[UNKNOWN]: It is yellow.
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't know.
[UNKNOWN]: I was like, why is that yellow when I was doing my second watch?
[UNKNOWN]: But then you were talking, what is yellow is fear in the color coding?
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
[UNKNOWN]: So what are they doing with that?
[UNKNOWN]: That's a mystery.
[UNKNOWN]: Did you have any, like you don't have to say nothing, but do you have some theory?
[UNKNOWN]: Do you have some theories cooking in your head or are you is it?
[UNKNOWN]: No, I am, I am totally, what did I tell you about adaptations?
[UNKNOWN]: I am trying to figure them out.
[UNKNOWN]: Fair enough.
[UNKNOWN]: They're like invariably, I get the
[UNKNOWN]: So I am going to sit back and just watch the adaptation and see how they they weave these these things into the story that they're telling right you're going to tell the story and then then I'll talk about it all right all right.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, so put it put everybody put it back in the thing that yes, that's going to be important definitely for sure for sure.
[UNKNOWN]: All right.
[UNKNOWN]: Next scene, hologram.
[UNKNOWN]: John walks down the road towards the taco stand furious and calls his dad, who tells him to stay calm and the job is his if he keeps at it.
[UNKNOWN]: The ring lights up and projects a hologram of a younger, more apologetic how a backup of his own consciousness
[UNKNOWN]: which is a real contrast to the version how John has been dealing with all day.
[UNKNOWN]: The message from how to how there's hail in Rushville, Nebraska.
[UNKNOWN]: What did you make of the hologram?
[UNKNOWN]: And you had something to say about this walk?
[UNKNOWN]: No, just when he calls his father, and his father's like, oh, you got to be cool because
[UNKNOWN]: You got to be cool, you can't be like them, and that is being black in America.
[UNKNOWN]: This is the conversation that we had in Wonderman.
[UNKNOWN]: How?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I remember that.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Mint, you have to sell your rage yourself.
[UNKNOWN]: Hold your rage.
[UNKNOWN]: Hold your anger.
[UNKNOWN]: You can't let them see it, because that's what's expected out of you.
[UNKNOWN]: And that just isn't excuse to put to pass you up.
[UNKNOWN]: To pass you up.
[UNKNOWN]: To bypass you, to forget.
[UNKNOWN]: We're to lock you up if you want to lock you up.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: All right, so his dad is like, very much by the book, you can't show that emotion.
[UNKNOWN]: And he's, you know, talking to the one person that he should be able to show that emotion to.
[UNKNOWN]: All right.
[UNKNOWN]: And that person doesn't want to hear it.
[UNKNOWN]: So where does that go?
[UNKNOWN]: He gets it, though.
[UNKNOWN]: I think he's dead.
[UNKNOWN]: Get it.
[UNKNOWN]: But he just said, no, he got it.
[UNKNOWN]: He's dead.
[UNKNOWN]: It's like you got, but you got to follow that up right now.
[UNKNOWN]: Right now, you got to follow that up right now.
[UNKNOWN]: But I hear you, I'm here for you.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm a safe person for you to share that with, but my advice to you is now, you've said your piece, now lock it down.
[UNKNOWN]: It what happens when the locked, you can't keep it locked in anymore.
[UNKNOWN]: Right, it's going to, it's, it's metamorphic, it's going to, we just learned, we were out a thing we learned, we were at a state park in them that we went to a geology talk about rocks and stuff like that and you know, you have different kinds of recedimentary igneous and metamorphic rock.
[UNKNOWN]: And when you put that much pressure and heat together, the way that
[UNKNOWN]: immovable stuff and bend it and changes its chemical composition you put that much pressure inside of humans inside the human psychology it's going to metamorphize your character and who you are in the world if you just keep piling that pressure in and in and in there's no release for it.
[UNKNOWN]: And so we have both Marvel and DC shows, television shows, dealing with this sort of question.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: How about being black and American?
[UNKNOWN]: Hmm.
[UNKNOWN]: So I thought it was interesting that not only is his dad in the know about his selection for the job,
[UNKNOWN]: His dad is kind of like, yeah, this job is yours.
[UNKNOWN]: You just gotta hang, like, he's being normal about it.
[UNKNOWN]: He's being normal about the fact that his son is one in 7.5 billion people in 2016.
[UNKNOWN]: and that his dad is just like, yeah, you're the next green liter.
[UNKNOWN]: What is his dad?
[UNKNOWN]: No, how is his dad involved in all of this?
[UNKNOWN]: How is his dad prepared him knowingly prepared his son to be one of seven point five billion people?
[UNKNOWN]: Because it's why he prepared his son to be exceptional.
[UNKNOWN]: It's extraordinary.
[UNKNOWN]: He prepared his son to be this moment.
[UNKNOWN]: And he didn't, I don't, at this point, we don't know that he knew this moment was coming, right?
[UNKNOWN]: but he proves preparing his son to meet this moment.
[UNKNOWN]: Hmm.
[UNKNOWN]: That was the foremost thing, when it happens, they will not be able to deny you because you will be exceptional.
[UNKNOWN]: Among us, you will be extraordinary.
[UNKNOWN]: Among the three sons that we saw on screen, assuming that those or his brothers,
[UNKNOWN]: We only hear Marcus's name as one of the brothers.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't, we don't, the other brother doesn't get name.
[UNKNOWN]: So I don't know if Marcus is going to show up later if they're going to do some family story back story stuff.
[UNKNOWN]: That's possible, right?
[UNKNOWN]: But he sees in this particular song, John Jr. that he has the capacity to be this kind of exceptional.
[UNKNOWN]: One and seven and a half billion.
[UNKNOWN]: Like I said, if he did it, no.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: You're asking how do he know?
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: How do we know he didn't know?
[UNKNOWN]: From a very early age that this could be a possibility.
[UNKNOWN]: So this is just like I'm just so this is what the intrigue as Alicia said the way that they set up the intrigue built into the into the exposition like it's just
[UNKNOWN]: It's fascinating.
[UNKNOWN]: It is fascinating how well constructed this is, the dialogue, the, just the dialogue between the father and son in this scene is incredible.
[UNKNOWN]: And, and the acting, by, I'm sorry, what's the, I don't know, Pierre, Aaron Pierre's acting of being exasperated and frustrated and then locking it down when he gets the coaching from his dad.
[UNKNOWN]: It's so good.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: He's, I am here at show on point.
[UNKNOWN]: And he's walking on that dusty road, sun is shining, is hot, he's wearing hands in the hot weather, you know?
[UNKNOWN]: And they tell you to bottle all that emotion up and just keep walking straight.
[UNKNOWN]: And just to go back really quick, the opening shot of this scene after the logo fades,
[UNKNOWN]: We get these telephone poles and these winding hills and this curve and we don't like I didn't even see it the first time I had to watch it a couple of times we see him come around the bend of the script I don't know how to explain
[UNKNOWN]: how complex the shot is, how well it's lit, how beautifully it set up, the kind of weird for, I don't want to say force perspective, but the perspective of the shot, it's so pretty, but it's so unassuming, blinking you miss it, but it is so, so well put together.
[UNKNOWN]: And then we jump to this great
[UNKNOWN]: costume and make up job to make Kyle Chen when her look younger in the hollow grand version of himself.
[UNKNOWN]: We instantly know something's different about this guy, but it's the same guy, but something's well, oh, the hair, it's less salt and pepper.
[UNKNOWN]: He's a, you know, he's more apologetic and friendly.
[UNKNOWN]: And so suddenly we know wait, wait a minute, there's something
[UNKNOWN]: different about this, and then we think about, oh, well, if this is a 10 year old, how Jordan, what the hell happened to how Jordan in the last 10 years to make them such a salty bastard?
[UNKNOWN]: Right?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, absolutely right.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, because I would much rather be trained by those holograms that the real deal.
[UNKNOWN]: So,
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, you don't know how to fly.
[UNKNOWN]: He hasn't taught you that, huh?
[UNKNOWN]: It was so funny, didn't he?
[UNKNOWN]: Then their peer just goes, he just looks.
[UNKNOWN]: He just looks over his shoulder like, where are we?
[UNKNOWN]: Why are we up here in the middle of this freaking road?
[UNKNOWN]: It was so good that comic timing was so perfect.
[UNKNOWN]: So is this canonical, this uploading weekly thing?
[UNKNOWN]: No.
[UNKNOWN]: no.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
[UNKNOWN]: So is this a show only thing?
[UNKNOWN]: I think this is a show only thing, just like Victoria the meter is also a show only thing.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
[UNKNOWN]: All right.
[UNKNOWN]: And there's hail in Rushville, Nebraska.
[UNKNOWN]: Is Rushville a show only thing?
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
[UNKNOWN]: I think this entire setup is a show.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
[UNKNOWN]: So construction.
[UNKNOWN]: Got it.
[UNKNOWN]: That's interesting.
[UNKNOWN]: Because then you also question why is it how doing backups?
[UNKNOWN]: If you're supposed to be doing this, if this is, you know, the in fact the truth, why is there why is he not doing backups?
[UNKNOWN]: What does that say about his attitude towards what's green lantern central called?
[UNKNOWN]: Does it have a had just had quarters of a name beyond had quarters or planet?
[UNKNOWN]: Oha.
[UNKNOWN]: Planet Oha.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Oha.
[UNKNOWN]: And the guardians.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
[UNKNOWN]: So, yes.
[UNKNOWN]: So, what does that say about his attitude towards the guardians?
[UNKNOWN]: And his, you know, sort of command structure.
[UNKNOWN]: So, I think it's interesting, like that's an open question, I think.
[UNKNOWN]: It is open question.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: All right, hail in Rushville.
[UNKNOWN]: At the talker stand, how it works the crowd like a celebrity.
[UNKNOWN]: And when fans ask about his suit, he explains that he only wears it on special occasions now.
[UNKNOWN]: John reveals he survived the crash by making bubble wrap with the ring.
[UNKNOWN]: Once John delivers the message, how drops the act, grabs the ring, tells John to pay the check and flies off to Nebraska, leaving John to catch a regular flight.
[UNKNOWN]: The second time today that has left him behind,
[UNKNOWN]: and we get no fun by the studios playing as we cut to Nebraska.
[UNKNOWN]: Thoughts on the Tucker Sand?
[UNKNOWN]: No, it was so hilarious to see after John left him, after how excuse me, after how left him, how John had to.
[UNKNOWN]: Just be pedestrian.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah,
[UNKNOWN]: This is a superhero TV show where the hero can fly off in a moment's notice, but then we have this other character who's a integral part of the show, and can fly off and has to figure it out.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: How do I get to where I need to get to?
[UNKNOWN]: And what's the quickest way to get to where I need to get to,
[UNKNOWN]: And he's out there that taco state.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and I got no car.
[UNKNOWN]: Nothing.
[UNKNOWN]: Right, because the car's trashed.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
[UNKNOWN]: Just sit.
[UNKNOWN]: I thought that was just one of the things.
[UNKNOWN]: He, I, of the hypersonic to the, like, I mean, great hits.
[UNKNOWN]: That was great.
[UNKNOWN]: And it's just, it's just far enough.
[UNKNOWN]: And it's just up there.
[UNKNOWN]: And you're just like, damn, right?
[UNKNOWN]: You know, he just took off.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: That's good.
[UNKNOWN]: And, and I love that when
[UNKNOWN]: person at the restaurant ask him why don't you wear the suit?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and he's like, you know, when you start a job and you wear a tie every day, trying to impress people, and this is where he's at.
[UNKNOWN]: He's like, I've done it all, I don't need to work soon.
[UNKNOWN]: Everybody knows what I am, you know, who am I trying to impress right now?
[UNKNOWN]: And not only who am I trying to impress, but I'm gonna hand grooming my replacement.
[UNKNOWN]: Mm-hmm.
[UNKNOWN]: Fuck that suit.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't say it.
[UNKNOWN]: You're like, if that suit, man, I don't want to wear it anymore.
[UNKNOWN]: Now is that a reason?
[UNKNOWN]: that they've decided when I say they the guardians have decided that he needs to train his eventual replacement because he's like, fuck that suit.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't need it anymore.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: He's not doing procedure.
[UNKNOWN]: He's not doing back week in the backups like he's supposed to.
[UNKNOWN]: So, and we've seen that we see the question, what's happened to how?
[UNKNOWN]: Right, right, right.
[UNKNOWN]: There's a between the back up and now.
[UNKNOWN]: Again, it's really an explicit right because we get exposition, we get rule, we get world-building setup and character development, all in one and that hologram right there that what happened to him in these last 10 years that he's become this salty bastard who's just flaunting the rules
[UNKNOWN]: who he is now, it's amazing.
[UNKNOWN]: And then him leaving, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Again, it parallels to when he left him out on the road.
[UNKNOWN]: And then it left him, he went to fair on four without telling him anything.
[UNKNOWN]: So like this is a guy who will just leave you.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, yeah, leave you to figure it out.
[UNKNOWN]: And you know, we'll get to it, but that's,
[UNKNOWN]: Partly true and partly not, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, he wants him to figure shit out, but he's also like, I gotta go do shit and you're just gonna stone me down.
[UNKNOWN]: So I'll see you when I see you.
[UNKNOWN]: That's crazy.
[UNKNOWN]: That's like, that's not, how do you learn?
[UNKNOWN]: How do you learn?
[UNKNOWN]: You're training your replacement.
[UNKNOWN]: Is that way?
[UNKNOWN]: Exactly.
[UNKNOWN]: The one thing that I thought was interesting
[UNKNOWN]: with it, with the whole suit and tie thing was, and I will say as a slightly older mid 50s guy, I'm kind of in that middle ground between, yeah, I don't want to wear a tiny more, but I still have some F's to give.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not completely over it, but I was like, oh yeah, the the dialogue of that whole scene about, yeah, you don't need to wear a tiny more because it's just stupid
[UNKNOWN]: Man, if I don't do it again, I'll be the happiest camper in the world.
[UNKNOWN]: I got, what do I have to prove no more?
[UNKNOWN]: If them times, I don't say.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but just a whole public persona, you know, putting, it was just such a perfect wisdom.
[UNKNOWN]: So, right.
[UNKNOWN]: But he's at the same time.
[UNKNOWN]: He's such a good sport at being a public celebrity.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh yeah, with the kids, he's got time for everybody's for selfies, he loves it, he loves it, he's a people person in that way.
[UNKNOWN]: He loves the light, he loves to smile, he loves to be recognized and he loves to, you know, shower that back onto the public, the adoring public, not so much where John,
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, no, no, he's sort of the strong silent type.
[UNKNOWN]: And so I just think, you know, how?
[UNKNOWN]: And this is what the first 20 minutes.
[UNKNOWN]: The first 20 minutes.
[UNKNOWN]: They give us so much about who both of them are.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: And you can't have two more diametrically opposed people
[UNKNOWN]: And what's so interesting about John, who is doing the yes or no sir, strong, stoic type bubble wrap.
[UNKNOWN]: That's funny, that's actually very funny and they're actually very inventive.
[UNKNOWN]: And I think how it takes note of that.
[UNKNOWN]: It's like that's a novel bubble wrap.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh yeah, okay.
[UNKNOWN]: It worked.
[UNKNOWN]: But given that I haven't really taught, taught you anything.
[UNKNOWN]: Is that bad?
[UNKNOWN]: Does not have bad?
[UNKNOWN]: But that's the first thing that came to his mind.
[UNKNOWN]: So think about his mind, like wrapping himself up in, in bubble wrap.
[UNKNOWN]: I love it.
[UNKNOWN]: The world, the world can't hurt me.
[UNKNOWN]: So, so the ring, the ring is actually a device to tell you about the character of the person who wields the ring.
[UNKNOWN]: Absolutely.
[UNKNOWN]: Like it's it's oh my god.
[UNKNOWN]: I had no, I just thought it was some stupid magic.
[UNKNOWN]: I just thought it was some stupid magic ring that I agree with or.
[UNKNOWN]: But from a storytelling device, it's a plot.
[UNKNOWN]: It's a device that tells you about the character of the person who does do.
[UNKNOWN]: Which is why I think it's one of the greatest inventions in comic book.
[UNKNOWN]: It's better than the infinity stones.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it lives up.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm throwing fire down.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't want to get trouble.
[UNKNOWN]: It's different.
[UNKNOWN]: And the reason why I say it's different is you are limited, the infinity stones are unlimited power, the ring is still limited.
[UNKNOWN]: like, it can't do the things, anything that you can think of, yes, you can construct, you can, when it can't change reality in that way.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: So it's still a very grounded thing within the universe, because there can be an ordinary thing.
[UNKNOWN]: You're reacting.
[UNKNOWN]: There are limits.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: There are limits to what it can do.
[UNKNOWN]: But it tells you about the person to me because if I'm wielding the ring and all I can think about is making guns and missiles and, you know, swords and all manner of weaponry.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: What does that tell you about this person that's holding this ring?
[UNKNOWN]: What does that tell you about what that person is thinking and feeling and in the moments that really matter?
[UNKNOWN]: Right, because there's a, and that's what was so interesting and instructive about the car crash scene is new time to think, react.
[UNKNOWN]: You, you can't puzzle it out in your mind.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, you need to, this is survival and an instant.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: And the first thing that he thought of was bugger up.
[UNKNOWN]: in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a hard and harsh world that's not fair that's beyond your circumstances to control.
[UNKNOWN]: And what is this little boy do, you know, because like we're all just four, four, five, six year olds internally emotionally, right?
[UNKNOWN]: We, you know, that's just us inside.
[UNKNOWN]: We just have lots and lots and lots of layers to manage and to mitigate all of the stuff that's
[UNKNOWN]: that child inside want he just wants to be protected in something that's bouncy and soft and yeah and kind of fun in a way right like I see those big bubble balls that people have was that and that keeps me safe yeah nothing can can get inside of this damn
[UNKNOWN]: All right, we should move on to the next scene.
[UNKNOWN]: I just real quick the the song that we go out on and that carries us over into Nebraska is no fun by the stages.
[UNKNOWN]: It feels like they're going to be pulling a lot of needle drops in this.
[UNKNOWN]: So I'm going to be calling out the needle drops as we go long.
[UNKNOWN]: uh... the students are an american rock band the song was released in august of sixty nine uh... it is considered uh... uh... prodo punk release the album peaked pretty high and then it looks like this is like the album was ranked number four hundred eighty eight on the rolling stones five hundred greatest albums of all time this is a pretty big song for uh...
[UNKNOWN]: and album and band, which I don't think I'm curious says to how many people have actually know the studios, I don't know the studios like I being a child of growing up in the shadow of this era of radio, you and I both listening to the radio in the 70s and the 80s, I mean, I know this song, but I didn't know the studios in this way, so that's interesting.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I didn't know the studios as a child, so.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Cool, all right, stay the F off the field.
[UNKNOWN]: John arrives in Nebraska, six hours behind how who's already sitting in the bleachers at the scene.
[UNKNOWN]: The same seat that we'll see him at the end.
[UNKNOWN]: Four people are dead on a high school football field, all in visitor sweatshirts, and Sheriff Kerry Kane, once both Hal and John gone, since the lanterns only have jurisdiction over extra terrestrial events.
[UNKNOWN]: Hal insists the victims are aliens just on his hunch, and Kerry reluctantly alerts them stay, telling them to keep off the field in a way from the newsvans.
[UNKNOWN]: John reconstructs the scene as a rival game gone wrong, reading the sort of reading decide he kind of does a Sherlock on it and then when he flags the bystander in the short sleeve shirt acting weird,
[UNKNOWN]: the guy runs and John uses his knowledge of the school because I think he grew up at a small town like this.
[UNKNOWN]: That's the way I read anyway.
[UNKNOWN]: He's able to cut off the guy and they cuff him and that is our chief suspect.
[UNKNOWN]: Thoughts on this scene where we especially where we meet the sheriff who's
[UNKNOWN]: you know, conundrum because who has jurisdiction and how would I go?
[UNKNOWN]: I noticed the alien, but can you really stop me?
[UNKNOWN]: You know, you just feel it, you know what I mean?
[UNKNOWN]: He's just sitting there like, hold home, like if he wanted to, he could have just marched down onto the field, but he's respecting these earth rules where he is trying to impose and really adhere to universal galactic rules, you know what I'm saying?
[UNKNOWN]: So it's really, if I him particularly as a hero,
[UNKNOWN]: is always a problem on Earth, because he is exposed to so much more than everyone else's, because everyone else is Earth-based.
[UNKNOWN]: He has to deal with things and has seen things that no other person on Earth has had to encounter.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: And that
[UNKNOWN]: forms and informs how he is with other people, so he can be short with someone, but that's because you're thinking in terms of planetary.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm thinking in terms of galactic.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm thinking
[UNKNOWN]: three, four, 500 light years away from us.
[UNKNOWN]: That's the shit I have to deal.
[UNKNOWN]: So he's sitting there in the small town on the bleachers and it's just like, let me do what I know I can do.
[UNKNOWN]: And the sheriff is just like,
[UNKNOWN]: trying to say no, I have to adhere to this standard and this standard is that you are only responsible for extraterrestrial things.
[UNKNOWN]: And until so proven, they out of my way, you don't have jurisdiction, which is the way that you put that even makes the courts he coming up even more
[UNKNOWN]: That's so good.
[UNKNOWN]: It's like, what do you mean?
[UNKNOWN]: Eatinsey.
[UNKNOWN]: The thing with John, too, it's interesting.
[UNKNOWN]: So we learn a lot more about John in this whole scene, like getting assuming that it was a Los Angeles to Nebraska in six hours.
[UNKNOWN]: That's pretty good time.
[UNKNOWN]: He got on the flights and got the rental cars and drove and figured out like he had to get from the taco stand back to LAX and fly like that's that's a lot.
[UNKNOWN]: But then he does sort of a Sherlock thing and he, you know, puts together, from the very beginning, he's driving through town, the streets are a little bit empty.
[UNKNOWN]: He sees the sodium lights.
[UNKNOWN]: He can hear the sirens off in the distance.
[UNKNOWN]: And then he breaks down the whole scene.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, the kicking block is still out there.
[UNKNOWN]: The fence, the scorecard, seeing the jersey of the guy who, you know, who pulled it off.
[UNKNOWN]: Like so we see that he actually has methodical detective
[UNKNOWN]: skills that are trained observational skills, the training to take a bunch of random facts and pull them all together.
[UNKNOWN]: We're how Jordan's just like, I don't know, I gotta get feeling, right?
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know, this is just weird to me.
[UNKNOWN]: And so again, we see the differences between these two characters.
[UNKNOWN]: And then we get the third character of the sheriff,
[UNKNOWN]: Right, carry, carry, carry cane, played by Kelly McDonald.
[UNKNOWN]: That was so good in this.
[UNKNOWN]: She's so awesome with her big hat and her draw and everything.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm just loving all of this.
[UNKNOWN]: And she's super salty as well, which is even more funny.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: I just, you know, I think this scene also shows how quickly John processes things.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: Not just with the detective work, but also with the chase scene.
[UNKNOWN]: Yep.
[UNKNOWN]: Because I didn't read it as he grew up in a small town, so he knows.
[UNKNOWN]: Like I read it like he kind of looked at the doors.
[UNKNOWN]: and figured out which way to be able to go that would get me ahead of this person?
[UNKNOWN]: Right, that's what they want us to know.
[UNKNOWN]: I had Ganon that, oh, well maybe he grew up in a high school that's not just so much of this.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, okay.
[UNKNOWN]: So he's using his background experience.
[UNKNOWN]: You're right.
[UNKNOWN]: And so just, I really like that they show, and again, it's the contrast between the two of them, like you mentioned, one, how Jordan,
[UNKNOWN]: and one, John Stuart, is sizing the shit out.
[UNKNOWN]: Right, right, exactly.
[UNKNOWN]: It's a very sort of Watson Sherlock key.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, maybe not a one for one, but just this idea.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: And then to embed all of this into a really part of my fringe,
[UNKNOWN]: all two common occurrence in the United States of a mass shooting event at a social gathering of some kind.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: And at one of our schools, right, so again, that fear of all of us is what parents
[UNKNOWN]: But then to embed this story again into that, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Into all of the other things that Linda Lough is core sampling are modern-day society, and taking all of these cross-cutting issues, and then to embed it into that.
[UNKNOWN]: And then it's just sort of like, it's just kind of whole hum.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, there's still why are they processing the scene
[UNKNOWN]: Victims whose bodies are still on the field and the high school cheerleaders and football players are still just wandering around, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, yeah, I'm interviewing people today.
[UNKNOWN]: But everybody's just so freaking ho-hom about it.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, and not just because they don't recognize any of these right, just because of the environment that they happen to be living in.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: So, just, again, just perfect sort of lindle-offie and, I guess, if we can say it that way, constructions.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: I thought it was interesting too when John and how they kind of have a little face-off for a moment, and what came to my mind was like,
[UNKNOWN]: These are two men, neither of which has fear.
[UNKNOWN]: One of them's got a ring of, you know, mess, destruction, you know, I'll just make your butt, neither of them have fear.
[UNKNOWN]: So what is it when two guys like to square off from each other?
[UNKNOWN]: Who gives?
[UNKNOWN]: Exactly.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, who gives?
[UNKNOWN]: Who finishes first?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: And if not flinch, who's the first to say, okay, let's try to make this the best.
[UNKNOWN]: possible world that we can make it between the two of us.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Let's come to an understanding instead of budding heads always.
[UNKNOWN]: Who's going to be the first to do that?
[UNKNOWN]: And how is he?
[UNKNOWN]: You know, he's so salty and rude.
[UNKNOWN]: And we'd till later do we actually like, it's not until after the end of the ranch scene
[UNKNOWN]: Do we see, do we see on Hal's face or in his reaction, a modicum of respect for John?
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: He breaks down the scene.
[UNKNOWN]: He gets this, he screws up, rookie move and blows the suspect, but he makes good on it, the bubble wrap, all of that.
[UNKNOWN]: There's lots of things to make.
[UNKNOWN]: He gets to Nebraska in six hours.
[UNKNOWN]: There's lots of things to law John's character.
[UNKNOWN]: but he never gives him any praise, until.
[UNKNOWN]: Until even it's that you slept with simply.
[UNKNOWN]: Will's why, right, you're like, I'm impressed, I'd say.
[UNKNOWN]: And I had 24 hours.
[UNKNOWN]: So good, so good.
[UNKNOWN]: And then again, we learned to about the sheriff and how, you know, yeah, she's salty, but she's also sparse.
[UNKNOWN]: Cause yeah, I clocked that guy.
[UNKNOWN]: I got the situation and control and you screwed up.
[UNKNOWN]: Exactly.
[UNKNOWN]: I may be a small town sheriff, but I'm not dumb, unlike you guys.
[UNKNOWN]: All right, brand new key.
[UNKNOWN]: At the bar, how manifests some cash with the ring to buy round the well, to be able to play brand new key on repeat until the locals fight him, getting himself deliberately arrested so that he can share a cell with Sanders, the suspect.
[UNKNOWN]: Between rounds, he tells John that the ring is a dangerous weapon and knowing when to use it is the whole ball game.
[UNKNOWN]: And then he also explains how Abinsure gave him the ring after crashing into Earth years ago.
[UNKNOWN]: While how starts a fight, John talks to a woman at the bar, telling her that he's Earth's backup lantern.
[UNKNOWN]: They leave together, have sex in the parking lot, and he lights her cigarette
[UNKNOWN]: thoughts on the bar scene overall.
[UNKNOWN]: This, like, the scenes just kept getting better and better.
[UNKNOWN]: And I was thinking, oh, is the, the ranch scene my favorite scene or is it?
[UNKNOWN]: The interrogation is my favorite scene, but now I'm thinking, this scene's pretty good too.
[UNKNOWN]: Like, I don't know, like, where to fit this in.
[UNKNOWN]: There was just some brilliant character moments in this.
[UNKNOWN]: was that you don't have to know the story in order to get into this show.
[UNKNOWN]: Because here is where he explains to you how does he came about to have this right?
[UNKNOWN]: It's still good.
[UNKNOWN]: Right, so for people who don't know the Lord, who don't know the history, is here.
[UNKNOWN]: And it's not done in a way to say, hey, here it is.
[UNKNOWN]: It's done in a way that they're just having the conversation and he really wants, and I say, John really wants to know and how it's not going to be like them.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, because there's going to be detail, he knows the mythology, but the mythology isn't the truth.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: And how it's not going to lie to them.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: He tells them, you know, the first thing this lie asked me, are you afraid?
[UNKNOWN]: And that was it.
[UNKNOWN]: That was a start to my journey.
[UNKNOWN]: And what did John's father ask him?
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: Perfect.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, you're afraid.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: No.
[UNKNOWN]: And we cut away.
[UNKNOWN]: So you can see the differences, but you also can see the symmetry between these two characters
[UNKNOWN]: And so, so well done right here.
[UNKNOWN]: And the, I love this contrast that houses, you know, this ring is a dangerous weapon, you know, the ability to discern when to use it and when not to use it, that's the whole ball game.
[UNKNOWN]: It's a test of character.
[UNKNOWN]: Are you somebody who could wield this thing because it is your will, the expansive, your will is the expansive of the ring.
[UNKNOWN]: and to be able to have a restraint and to not use it is as important as when to use it.
[UNKNOWN]: And sort of a counterfeit money to play bread new key by melody, which is just hilarious song about roller skating over and over again.
[UNKNOWN]: And you know it's the same talk.
[UNKNOWN]: Like if you hear like I picked this up on my second watch, when he's punching the numbers, there's a rhythm to it.
[UNKNOWN]: Tung, tung, tung, tung, tung, tung, tung, tung, tung, tung, tung, tung, tung, tung, tung, and you're like, and then he goes, how do you fellas?
[UNKNOWN]: Why the hell is he saying high to the locals
[UNKNOWN]: And then the scene is so well built, it is so well, and then he's like, oh, I'm going to get my ass kicked.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't want you to get up.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, I mean, he's just like, he's like, looks kind of like, oh, that was pretty quick answer there, my guy.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you just made me take a plane, a train, an automobile, a local motor, I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: Like, I'm everywhere, a boat, a ship to reach over here, and you think I'm gonna save you?
[UNKNOWN]: No, that's your plan, okay, get your ass kicked.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm cool with it.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, buddy, it was so funny.
[UNKNOWN]: He's just like, okay.
[UNKNOWN]: And then he looks at him like, damn, that's gold.
[UNKNOWN]: You're not even gonna like pretend to pretty, you know, no, all right, all right.
[UNKNOWN]: All right, thanks for the other shot.
[UNKNOWN]: No.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, my God.
[UNKNOWN]: That's so good.
[UNKNOWN]: And then, when so, he says like, oh, are you gonna say yes to the ring?
[UNKNOWN]: Like that, that was so funny as well.
[UNKNOWN]: All right.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, but he doesn't put it on then.
[UNKNOWN]: No, no, doesn't put it on.
[UNKNOWN]: He didn't put it on.
[UNKNOWN]: That's very good.
[UNKNOWN]: But she calls it what's interesting is that she calls him out.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
[UNKNOWN]: And says you're not patient.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: You're not a person who has patients.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Which?
[UNKNOWN]: Like, okay, I'm drinking Coke and Coke.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm on the job, but I'm going to go out to the truck and have a little parking lot, you know, two step.
[UNKNOWN]: That's, you might as well have been drinking, I haven't a couple of shots, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Because that's just as bad a transgression as, say you haven't a drink at the bar, while you're in quote on duty.
[UNKNOWN]: But it's so good.
[UNKNOWN]: It's like the whole thing.
[UNKNOWN]: And then using the ring is a cigarette like this.
[UNKNOWN]: That was just awesome.
[UNKNOWN]: That's I think that's my favorite visual gag of the whole show.
[UNKNOWN]: But again, I like how she makes him question, makes John question, his beliefs about who John is, who I'm excuse me, who how is, you know, like you think you figured hell out, because you see the world in such a particular way.
[UNKNOWN]: It's been ingrained in you to see it this way.
[UNKNOWN]: and you see anyone who deviates from this straight line that you walk as somehow not worthy, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Because he doesn't believe how this worthy of hold in the ring.
[UNKNOWN]: Right, no, he doesn't.
[UNKNOWN]: He questions like, well, maybe there should be some, he doesn't say this specifically, he's me paraphrasing.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: But it's really, he's saying,
[UNKNOWN]: There should be like some tests before you just somebody this way and you know That's not the test the test is one for a green lantern do you have fear because fear can break your will
[UNKNOWN]: and a green lantern is only as strong as there will.
[UNKNOWN]: And if you're will can be shattered, you are not gonna last as a green lantern.
[UNKNOWN]: That's so interesting because fear is such an integral part of the human psychology.
[UNKNOWN]: It is.
[UNKNOWN]: It's such a necessary part of who we are.
[UNKNOWN]: It plays such an important role in our survival as a species.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, that thing's got big claws, you know.
[UNKNOWN]: We should be afraid of it.
[UNKNOWN]: And I think we'll see later on in the series, why that question is asked of green lanterns.
[UNKNOWN]: Why do the guardians look for people who have no fear?
[UNKNOWN]: because- Why is that important?
[UNKNOWN]: I can imagine that the things that they have to face are so mind-shatteringly awesome.
[UNKNOWN]: Not using awesome in the, like, you know, surfer or cool dude, big wave way, but awesome in the sense of mind-shatteringly big.
[UNKNOWN]: Electromagnetic spectrum of emotion.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
[UNKNOWN]: All of these things can be channeled.
[UNKNOWN]: Hmm.
[UNKNOWN]: And we have, like, let's not talk about the trailer talk, but if you, if anybody's watched the trailer, there are, they are dropping hints about some stuff that's coming.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
[UNKNOWN]: That there are other, we have not met all of our cast of characters yet.
[UNKNOWN]: No.
[UNKNOWN]: and we're about to this show at some point is gonna, there's gonna be an inflection point and we're gonna go big.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
[UNKNOWN]: Speaking of big, let's break down to small.
[UNKNOWN]: Everyone's related in a small town.
[UNKNOWN]: The next morning Sheriff Kerry tells John that he can't take how home until he's arranged a reigned, which I think is hilarious, in court how fumbles explaining which law enforcement agency represents, and local lawyer Billy McCon shows up late, gets hired as his defense on the spot, and who turns out to be Kerry's husband.
[UNKNOWN]: The judge set spails, doubling it each time that Hal talks back, and warm to him not to leave town, kind of tough for a
[UNKNOWN]: Somebody who can fly and might be called off to some other part of the galaxy Billion bites them to dinner at his father's ranch that night What did you make of this scene?
[UNKNOWN]: It was pretty short scene, but yeah, but just the judge is that I make sure you don't leave their way He's a green lantern
[UNKNOWN]: It's going to jump out and like there are things that again, super seed this quiet hearing that I'm going to have to leave town if I need to right so this whole battle between you know what we on earth are trying to hold
[UNKNOWN]: people who are so powerful, accountable because that's what this is, right?
[UNKNOWN]: This is trying to hold this green lantern to account, but how does how even look at them and take them seriously, giving what he's gone through, right, giving the things that he's experienced.
[UNKNOWN]: And I think again, I mentioned that earlier,
[UNKNOWN]: always.
[UNKNOWN]: Great.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: Turns out that the William McCone, who's the husband of the show of the sheriff, is played by actor Jason Ritter.
[UNKNOWN]: who is the son of John Ritter.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: If you, if some of us remember three's company, but famous TV actor of his day.
[UNKNOWN]: Let's move forward to the ranch scene.
[UNKNOWN]: Which I like to call AR 15 shooting ducks.
[UNKNOWN]: John and Hal arrive at the ranch.
[UNKNOWN]: to armed men running drills, we see the same gates again at the end.
[UNKNOWN]: Inside they meet Will the caretaker who's made tofu steaks or vegan John, but won't actually, won't name who he actually works for due to an NDA.
[UNKNOWN]: How guest is Will's bracing for a militia raid by the feds?
[UNKNOWN]: Will waves that off admitting that his real fear is aliens and offers how access to the suspect in exchange for something he won't specify?
[UNKNOWN]: Outside, John teaches Noah to throw a football, don't aim just imagine it going through.
[UNKNOWN]: Noah calls out grandma, and the woman from the bar will box up revealing that it's Zoe Macon.
[UNKNOWN]: Will's wife, and as they leave that evening, we learn that will knows that John knows that who Zoe is and finally, how seems to have some respect for John.
[UNKNOWN]: This is, like I said, I was struggling is this my favorite scene in this or not, because
[UNKNOWN]: Linda Lough is really using this iconography of malicious stuff, very smartly, big ranch, but to white dudes on horses with tactical gear and very well trained.
[UNKNOWN]: And then he's like, he doesn't treat
[UNKNOWN]: Will has this, you know, or I love shows to that introduces to the bad guy early on and introduces to like, oh, we're gonna have to fight these guys later.
[UNKNOWN]: Like, this is gonna be a thing, right?
[UNKNOWN]: These guys are, this is what, this is an initial set about guys that we're gonna have to chew through.
[UNKNOWN]: And we meet this guy Will.
[UNKNOWN]: And it turns, you know, he's not rude to John being a vegan, being a black man, but he's xenophobic and he's worried about aliens.
[UNKNOWN]: And so this is this inversion thing that Linda, as an inversion, I don't know, what this thing that Linda love does where he's making us face racism and xenophobia, but in the guise of an alien superhero show, rather than, oh no, this isn't some wack to do fight
[UNKNOWN]: with the feds, this is about extraterrestrial aliens colonizing our planet and they just lay it out so straight forwardly and they make will such a just a straightforward guy.
[UNKNOWN]: I was like, oh, this is frickin' brilliant.
[UNKNOWN]: But he's so passive aggressive in this scene.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, so much so.
[UNKNOWN]: He's so passive aggressive in this scene.
[UNKNOWN]: The way he's chopping up the ribs.
[UNKNOWN]: Yep.
[UNKNOWN]: He's sizing up John.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, so you were military sniper.
[UNKNOWN]: You were Marines sniper.
[UNKNOWN]: The way he says, you know, oh, I heard that you're vegan.
[UNKNOWN]: I got some tofu steaks for you.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, if my grill or whatever he said, and it's just like, you know, it's so all of it is so aggressively passive.
[UNKNOWN]: And I'm watching it, and I'm just like, he tells them when they both went, I forgot if it was hell, if it was John, because as you seem to know a lot about me, a lot about, and then he says,
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but you walked ahead, not knowing nothing about me.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, and he's like stunned and will is stunned by the fact that they didn't do any even preliminary like hook-up of him and that's what I love about Will's character.
[UNKNOWN]: He's smart, he's playing it straight, he's a great bad guy and this I got a little
[UNKNOWN]: Turns everything on a dime, because lindle off sets us up.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, these guys are gonna be like xenophobic racist, and, you know, like, you know, John's gonna be in big trouble here, but no.
[UNKNOWN]: The government, they're probably watching your boss buyin' their time before they raid this compound, take his guns and rights.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, you think we'd build you out?
[UNKNOWN]: So we could enlist you in some wack-a-do war with the feds?
[UNKNOWN]: Well, why else would you bail me out?
[UNKNOWN]: It just lays it out so straightforwardly, it's brilliant.
[UNKNOWN]: Like there's no ambiguity about what this part of the mystery is all about.
[UNKNOWN]: And he's just like, hey, you went and asked it.
[UNKNOWN]: We have an aligned purpose at this point and I'm gonna get you access because it serves my needs.
[UNKNOWN]: And I'm not gonna be coy about it.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not gonna f- f- around about it.
[UNKNOWN]: I know you slept with my wife.
[UNKNOWN]: That's what it is, like I love a smart bad guy like this.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't, you know, the two-dimensional mustache twirling is like boring, like this guy is interesting.
[UNKNOWN]: This guy gives me the creeps.
[UNKNOWN]: This guy chills me because he's so good and he's so smart and he's not, he's like, I'm not gonna, why would I spend, why would I waste a bunch of time lying to a green lantern guy?
[UNKNOWN]: Let's just deal with the matter of fact right now.
[UNKNOWN]: There are aliens invading the earth and I'm worried about it and you can do something about it.
[UNKNOWN]: So how are we going to, you know, how are you and I going to work this out?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's the thing.
[UNKNOWN]: Do you work it out?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Do you work it out if you work it out?
[UNKNOWN]: If you work it out, how in John?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: How much can you trust this person?
[UNKNOWN]: Right?
[UNKNOWN]: almost can you trust them?
[UNKNOWN]: And that's a line that's what they're going to have to figure out over the course of the next episodes.
[UNKNOWN]: But how calls it out?
[UNKNOWN]: And here's another little audio clip I have for this.
[UNKNOWN]: It works like it does.
[UNKNOWN]: Shoots may are 15 like a dog, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,
[UNKNOWN]: You know, are these, what are these guys pointing their ARs at?
[UNKNOWN]: It's a question scale.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: You were, I started, you started to say something.
[UNKNOWN]: No, because, you know, sometimes people of a certain background can, can find common ground.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: So, I think in this moment, he's trying to, to let John know, like, you got to be able
[UNKNOWN]: that's a really good point don't get caught up the front don't get caught up yeah yeah john at this moment is caught up but is this is house way of ensuring that he doesn't get caught up right and it goes into the experience question how has a lot of a lot of experience he may not
[UNKNOWN]: It seems like John has some kind of training in some other ways.
[UNKNOWN]: How done he just got picked up, you know, got carried by a green bubble and he just like he's had to figure out the stuff on his own in a lot of ways.
[UNKNOWN]: Training, and we can at this point know that his father trained them and we know that the military trained them.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: And what else have that?
[UNKNOWN]: And it seems like he's got
[UNKNOWN]: He's got deductions skills.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: And those feel trained to me in the way that he's displaying them.
[UNKNOWN]: I love that the sheriff is like, look, my father-in-law's got paper on you.
[UNKNOWN]: So right, there's even a guy above will, right, there's some other bigger ad that we don't see yet.
[UNKNOWN]: And he's like, you should just fly the way from here.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: But you say that to a man who has no fear.
[UNKNOWN]: No fear, and that's the whole job description.
[UNKNOWN]: And he just walks, he just walks in with a six pack under his arm.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: So I'm, I'm watching.
[UNKNOWN]: A million dollar range.
[UNKNOWN]: And he just rolls up with a six pack of buttons under his arm.
[UNKNOWN]: And shout out to one of my, one of my niece's partner, Jimmy, who stayed up with me last night to watch the show.
[UNKNOWN]: He mentioned the relationship between Will and the sheriff was not coded as happily married.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: It was much more of, you know, soon to be exes.
[UNKNOWN]: And then Hal says to her, well, seems like they got something on you too.
[UNKNOWN]: And he peaked it like he saw that.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: He saw this.
[UNKNOWN]: What is it?
[UNKNOWN]: What is the share of how you're doing hangin' out with this?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, militia.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
[UNKNOWN]: So he saw that.
[UNKNOWN]: Nice.
[UNKNOWN]: And that's, you know, little things like that that they're doing in the show.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: So so that opens up a question of how is no
[UNKNOWN]: And I thought, at least from a character beat moment, the way that John was helping Noah, right?
[UNKNOWN]: He's doing the dad thing, right?
[UNKNOWN]: You know, my dad, you know, so I'm gonna do this as well.
[UNKNOWN]: But I thought the advice that he gives Noah about don't, don't aim just anywhere.
[UNKNOWN]: I thought I had it quoted, but I don't have the text.
[UNKNOWN]: He's basically just saying,
[UNKNOWN]: Right, just imagine the ball going through the thing.
[UNKNOWN]: Don't think about it.
[UNKNOWN]: Don't aim for it.
[UNKNOWN]: Guess what?
[UNKNOWN]: That's the advice that John needs himself for using the ring.
[UNKNOWN]: Exactly.
[UNKNOWN]: Right, so how else is Noah going to factor into the story?
[UNKNOWN]: I have no idea, but at least in that moment from a character beats standpoint, it was clear what that was about.
[UNKNOWN]: Anything else on this scene, or should we roll forward?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, this move forward, because I think getting to the way I want to be.
[UNKNOWN]: Right, right on.
[UNKNOWN]: So just to flag, we, as they pull up to the engines of the ranch, this is, we see the engines of the ranch, you know, in 2026, right, at the ad, right.
[UNKNOWN]: So we see the ruins as he drives by.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
[UNKNOWN]: Just to flag that.
[UNKNOWN]: And then also, yeah, I guess we already talked about it, but there's just how impressed how is with John that, you know, less than 24 hours.
[UNKNOWN]: Anyway, I still think that's hilarious.
[UNKNOWN]: the plural of each ship.
[UNKNOWN]: In the interrogation room, how quises sanders on Nebraska football then trips him up with a question about Harry Potter and calls him out.
[UNKNOWN]: No medical test can catch what he is only cultural fluency can.
[UNKNOWN]: Watching through the glass, Kerry asked John why he respects
[UNKNOWN]: and carry corrects him.
[UNKNOWN]: How is it fearless?
[UNKNOWN]: He's lonely.
[UNKNOWN]: Sanders drops his cover, hinting at a hidden weapon, and asking if Hal brought, you know, has enough energy in his ring to contain an explosion, which is proof that the aliens know exactly how the ring works.
[UNKNOWN]: starts beeping, how bubbles them up, and an instant before he detonates, and says, I told you he was an alien after the explosion.
[UNKNOWN]: This scene was also just extraordinary.
[UNKNOWN]: The dialogue, the whole, the acting of the guy who's the alien,
[UNKNOWN]: It was so good.
[UNKNOWN]: Just the way he was thinking, you could see he's like, sort of like, I'm trying to remember some facts.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, 44th president, followed Georgia, it was so good.
[UNKNOWN]: So that was, that was so great.
[UNKNOWN]: He said, 44th president, some problems.
[UNKNOWN]: He didn't tell me, he didn't tell me.
[UNKNOWN]: Barack Husino, Bama, they used the old word to the old name.
[UNKNOWN]: And you're from rural Nebraska, and that's the breath of your knowledge on Barack Husino.
[UNKNOWN]: Obama, you really are an alien.
[UNKNOWN]: I think I can.
[UNKNOWN]: I think I did this motherfucker here.
[UNKNOWN]: isn't in the law of bad, yeah, yeah, like, you, you, you're not racist, what, that's how I know.
[UNKNOWN]: That's how I know you're not from this planet.
[UNKNOWN]: they only need 22 Harry Potter movies like so good look look look at where you're at bro look at where you set up shop did you tell me that you're not racist did you also catch it the phone home line yes I got the phone right I know you just what a phone home right I mean I mean you just want to go home I know
[UNKNOWN]: And with the ET, you know, there's lots of I bet if we I bet if we did a line by line script read of this there would be all kinds of little winks and nods to all kinds of stuff there is the jurisdiction line which reminded me of the matrix the juris my diction crap and as well I'm I'm sure there's tons of little stuff.
[UNKNOWN]: little cultural gems scattered throughout just really amazing and again it just shows that how is really skilled at the things that he does.
[UNKNOWN]: And you may not break how he talks, you may not like his attitude, you may not like his, you know, cockyness, but at the end of the day, he's fucking skillful of what he does.
[UNKNOWN]: And it was great to see John.
[UNKNOWN]: See that in that moment because as he's sitting there behind the glass, he's starting to pick up on what he's doing before the sheriff does.
[UNKNOWN]: He's watching the maneuvering that hell is doing and there's a look on his face like oh I think he's onto something which is huge
[UNKNOWN]: up to this point because up to this point there's absolutely zero things that John believes that how has done right, most capable of doing right.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: That's interesting.
[UNKNOWN]: and all the while we're setting up rules for the world, 14 alien species that can evade detection.
[UNKNOWN]: The ring needs to be charged in every 48 hours.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, is your lantern?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Where, you know, that the aliens know how the ring works.
[UNKNOWN]: Even gives them the motto.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, exactly the motto he brings down the motto.
[UNKNOWN]: And you see, and you see how, and you see Harris, like, don't do it, don't do it.
[UNKNOWN]: So there are things, there are things that he takes seriously.
[UNKNOWN]: This motto is one of those things, and brightest day.
[UNKNOWN]: And blackest night, no evil shall escape my sight.
[UNKNOWN]: Those who worship evils might be aware of my power, green lanterns, light, that's the shit that how it takes seriously, wow.
[UNKNOWN]: That right there.
[UNKNOWN]: And he can be lonely and salty and get drunk and be late and disappear for two weeks.
[UNKNOWN]: but at the end of the day, this guy's character is that green lantern's light.
[UNKNOWN]: That is who Hal Jordan is.
[UNKNOWN]: So when we get the final scene of him sitting frozen on the bench with a single bullet wound in his head, how Jordan the world's first green land like that is that he contains the dude's explosion.
[UNKNOWN]: He does he have enough power left in his ring.
[UNKNOWN]: Does how Jordan even know does he even
[UNKNOWN]: You know, how much have I expected?
[UNKNOWN]: Do I have enough to keep it?
[UNKNOWN]: He even jumps on the bubble to, you know, to shield the sheriff and John a little bit more from maybe some of the debris absorb some of the shit.
[UNKNOWN]: Dude.
[UNKNOWN]: This episode is so tight.
[UNKNOWN]: It is so tightly plotted and bound and written and it's crazy.
[UNKNOWN]: And then we, we get like he said to the final shot of him murdered.
[UNKNOWN]: There's a look, self-inflicted doesn't look that's not where you, that's not that's not a place.
[UNKNOWN]: And the exit reaches down.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, anyway, sorry.
[UNKNOWN]: John reaches down touches his hand, brushes a snowy way.
[UNKNOWN]: There's no ring on John's finger.
[UNKNOWN]: There's no ring on house, finger.
[UNKNOWN]: Where's the ring?
[UNKNOWN]: Another mystery to be solved.
[UNKNOWN]: And this is in, that's in 2026.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
[UNKNOWN]: And back where it started.
[UNKNOWN]: Another mystery to be solved.
[UNKNOWN]: Sitting in the bleachers, the same fields, right?
[UNKNOWN]: that we start off with the alien murders, right?
[UNKNOWN]: We had the mystery of why the aliens are here.
[UNKNOWN]: What do they want?
[UNKNOWN]: Are they looking for something?
[UNKNOWN]: Are they looking for someone?
[UNKNOWN]: And we already got half the answer because Sanders says we have, I mean, for vengeance.
[UNKNOWN]: Dengeance.
[UNKNOWN]: Why else?
[UNKNOWN]: What other reason is there?
[UNKNOWN]: What other vengeance?
[UNKNOWN]: Such a great line delivery, too.
[UNKNOWN]: Like, why else vengeance?
[UNKNOWN]: So good.
[UNKNOWN]: You got a throw in the militia though too is like what the militia fits in there as well like yes because there's a guy we haven't even met yet who's running with a crow in them.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and this is the first episode is this a perfect
[UNKNOWN]: There's a lot of perfect lore.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not saying I'm not being exclusionary here.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm being inclusionary.
[UNKNOWN]: This fits within the the venn diagram of like what makes a good lorhound show.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, man.
[UNKNOWN]: All right.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, let's see.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, one other couple of quick notes.
[UNKNOWN]: We saw in the previous scene with Noah that John has a notebook.
[UNKNOWN]: He's like, when he's walking up to Noah throw on the football, he's got a little notebook, a little, you know, where there's a moleskin style notebook.
[UNKNOWN]: It is hand, and then we see him sketching in the interrogation room.
[UNKNOWN]: So like, what's that about?
[UNKNOWN]: Just, you know, an interesting note.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, there's part of John Stewart.
[UNKNOWN]: He is ex-form military, but he also becomes an architect.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, yeah, well, we're not going to go.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, leave that there.
[UNKNOWN]: So just, yeah, to leave that there.
[UNKNOWN]: So there's something going on there, which is interesting.
[UNKNOWN]: Love the way that they set up that scene to and the entire gase with the reflections and the windows and seeing a beautiful beautiful construction.
[UNKNOWN]: And then we have this whole question about caring for people over, you know, and, you know, having no fear.
[UNKNOWN]: versus being lonely, like what is John?
[UNKNOWN]: What is how have to fear if he's not connected to anything?
[UNKNOWN]: Like all of that's great stuff.
[UNKNOWN]: And then the reverse pan up to the sky as we leave the police station and then we look up.
[UNKNOWN]: And suddenly this very small world and they make it clean of it, hey, we're in a small town, everybody's related, I'd take offense to that if it weren't true, hilarious line.
[UNKNOWN]: But suddenly we pan up.
[UNKNOWN]: and the show at some point is gonna go wide.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Cause there's a much bigger world out there.
[UNKNOWN]: The ending song is connevaled by Skud Mountain Boys, and I looked up the lyrics here really, and which I think are really interesting.
[UNKNOWN]: I think they depict a really interesting song.
[UNKNOWN]: If I tried to leap the moon, would you ever care?
[UNKNOWN]: Would you ever care?
[UNKNOWN]: And if I left the earth too soon, would you ever dare?
[UNKNOWN]: Would you ever dare?
[UNKNOWN]: It didn't take much living to see that I was bound to leave the ground.
[UNKNOWN]: It didn't take much living to see that I'm only free when I'm flying.
[UNKNOWN]: If I tried to make my mark flying through the park would you ever dare if I fucked up every start?
[UNKNOWN]: There's just so much coding in there of like where these characters can go and how and how he's feeling about his life and John and the trajectory of his life, the sight seeing a flying, it's just a beautiful little way to end that scene and to pan back away from the football stadium.
[UNKNOWN]: And then, but like it's a satisfying episode, but then like we're so hung up on everything else.
[UNKNOWN]: All right, I think that's it, um, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Anything else?
[UNKNOWN]: No, just a great first episode.
[UNKNOWN]: Just awesome.
[UNKNOWN]: Just really, I'm really excited about this show.
[UNKNOWN]: And, um, I remember the trail for it to begin here.
[UNKNOWN]: You were like, whoa, I was such.
[UNKNOWN]: I was like, oh,
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I was I was I was always excited.
[UNKNOWN]: I was always excited.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, we've been Barlician I both.
[UNKNOWN]: Alicia and I both.
[UNKNOWN]: So the triumvirate two thirds of the triumvirate were that watch that show that we should never ever talk about.
[UNKNOWN]: We were really excited about this one.
[UNKNOWN]: You escaped the call.
[UNKNOWN]: just based on the trailer.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, but then it came back because you saw the trailer before the release of the show and you got on board.
[UNKNOWN]: And I'm glad you got on board.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm ready to go.
[UNKNOWN]: Let's go.
[UNKNOWN]: We're rolling.
[UNKNOWN]: We're just going to just keep on picking up from house the dragon season three.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we've got to wrap up podcast later this week.
[UNKNOWN]: Coming, silo is still coming out.
[UNKNOWN]: So join Alisha and Luke on that.
[UNKNOWN]: We've got some X-Men, 97 season two coverage.
[UNKNOWN]: Coming to the center of Spider-Man, brand new day coverage that we just did.
[UNKNOWN]: The pod just out and listen to it.
[UNKNOWN]: uh... super girl is out as well i believe call listen to that too
[UNKNOWN]: We've got, um, I got to work up, you know, now that summer vacations, like more or less done and we're settled all back, I need to hook up with Ron from Dungeons and the Do-Rag, because I know he wants to talk about the bear and I want to put that one to bed.
[UNKNOWN]: I was a great final season, and there's a few other things kicking around that we need to clean up from the summer.
[UNKNOWN]: And then I think we've got some exciting stuff coming up later in the fall.
[UNKNOWN]: Let me just get the show tracker open really quick.
[UNKNOWN]: Ted Lasso definitely is cooking and I think John and I might do a what you watch in which is a subscriber only thing and then we might do a midseason check in if you're into Star Trek strange new worlds go check out our friends
[UNKNOWN]: Um uh Ian and Danay over at the captain's pod.
[UNKNOWN]: They are covering that as well.
[UNKNOWN]: Later in the year it looks like we have vision quest coming up.
[UNKNOWN]: So keep an eye on that.
[UNKNOWN]: We obviously have rings of power season three scheduled and Blade Runner 299, which looks really interesting.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm kind of excited for that.
[UNKNOWN]: I guess we got news on a soka season two that's going to be next year first thing next year.
[UNKNOWN]: January of next year.
[UNKNOWN]: Right, D23.
[UNKNOWN]: Dune prophecy.
[UNKNOWN]: We still don't know, but we'll definitely have some Dune to or Dune three movie coverage once.
[UNKNOWN]: I got moved out to December 14th.
[UNKNOWN]: Which did?
[UNKNOWN]: Dune.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, so we got a date for Dune, December 14th.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, got it.
[UNKNOWN]: So we will have that out as well.
[UNKNOWN]: I know Nate, who, if you're on the discord, you probably saw a lot of his comments about House of the Dragon 3.
[UNKNOWN]: I know he wants to talk about Godzilla minus zero, which I would be down for that as well.
[UNKNOWN]: On the movie front, what else do we got?
[UNKNOWN]: And then of course, Avengers Doomsday is coming down the pipe as well.
[UNKNOWN]: So, still a lot going on this year.
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