[SPEAKER_00]: Howdy folks, welcome back to the podcast.
[SPEAKER_00]: Today I have the privilege to listen along with you listeners to a third trimester update from my lovely wife, Katherine Joy, Voteburg.
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel pretty update up to date, I should say, on how she's doing here at the beginning of the third trimester with baby number seven.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm sure I'm going to learn some new things in this update.
[SPEAKER_00]: What do you think, Katie?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, probably not.
[SPEAKER_01]: Probably not.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're here in a new studio.
[SPEAKER_01]: You guys might notice that.
[SPEAKER_01]: We told you last time that that'd be the last time we were in our old podcast studio, at least for the foreseeable future.
[SPEAKER_01]: We might like pop back in.
[SPEAKER_01]: We turned it into a home school room, which I broke down in a video.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like the coolest home school room.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that I've ever had.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's great.
[SPEAKER_01]: Really special.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love being in it.
[SPEAKER_01]: We clearly love the Keller Green so you could see we stole the Keller Green in the back of you're watching on YouTube and we're kind of still in the middle of a construction zone here in the Vogue music academy Hayden Studio.
[SPEAKER_01]: So this is our in-person music school and it's just fun to be here.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it is.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is, again, it's very much under construction.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you're watching it on the video, you can probably see that there's still, you know, some will have a mess that's left to be picked up, but the space is really coming together.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, I'm just so pumped to get classes going in here.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to be filming for all of our online content.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to be filming a lot of that content in here as well.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, you're going to, for those of you that are on VMA right now, over Music Academy, you're going to be seeing the space quite a bit.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then, and you're always free to come by, even if you don't live locally and aren't able to attend our classes on a regular basis, but you're traveling through any Voper Music Academy students are free to drop in.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, we'd love to have you.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and even if you're just a podcast listener, we'd love to have you come into.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and just say hi.
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll be fine to meet you.
[SPEAKER_01]: they're home away from home.
[SPEAKER_01]: So anyways.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so we're talking pregnancy today.
[SPEAKER_01]: We made it to the third trimester for the seventh time.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just consider it a great blessing and honor to be here for the seventh time.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think it hits me more and more.
[SPEAKER_01]: every baby that life is just not to be taken for granted, and it's such a gift to be able to carry life, it's such a privilege, and it's not anything I deserve to do.
[SPEAKER_01]: So anyways, it's a gift.
[SPEAKER_01]: That said, it's really not a third trimester update, because we're just entering the third trimester.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of a second trimester update.
[SPEAKER_00]: Second trimester review.
[SPEAKER_01]: What do you do?
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, just I get trimester and review.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think heading into the, heading into the third.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just kind of like, we've been getting questions in the Q&A box, you know, what are you eating, what are you doing, how are you working out, stuff like that?
[SPEAKER_01]: And if I was going to do a second trimester and review, it would probably be, well, not a ton of things really happened that were like that intentional in the second trimester.
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like people are very gracious, and we're like, oh, you look so great, and it's so kind of people to say that, but the second trimester is not a trimester where I really feel like, I feel like genetic serve me in the second trimester, and the third trimester is where I have to put an effort or it goes south pretty quickly.
[SPEAKER_01]: What did you say that's like?
[SPEAKER_00]: I've never seen that happen.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yes, you've never gone south.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, never without me.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I wish I had some old clips of old videos, like some of the kids I can like barely open my mouth and smile.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's where I like swell like crazy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Or I've had really bad back pain in my third trimester.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I do remember that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I do remember having to help you up and down stairs, help you out of chairs.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like, I'll just be stuck, like, can you help me?
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a life's just to come over and help me.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, I'm too young to be doing like this, you know?
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so I do think that's just, and it's also where that back in those last, like, 10 weeks, or where I usually have most of my weight gain, too.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's not like, I know some people they pop out really early, and they look pregnant really early, and I kind of,
[SPEAKER_01]: just gain weight gradually everywhere and then the third trimester is what kind of makes her breaks my postpartum season in terms of weight gain, like it's funny when you do like a pregnancy weight gain calculator.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if anyone's ever done that maybe it's just me.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they show the like healthy weight gain range and it's between 25 and 35 pounds of weight gain and for like my body weight or mass or whatever.
[SPEAKER_01]: However, they calculate that and I'm like that, it makes a big difference postpartum whether you're trying whether you have 35 pounds or 25 pounds like the extra 10 pounds is a big difference maker in terms of how you feel after the baby's born.
[SPEAKER_00]: So they give you that range, which you'd rather take the lower end.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, it just makes postpartum easier if you're on the lower end.
[SPEAKER_01]: And when I see easier, it just like morale.
[SPEAKER_01]: morale is easier.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's already enough going on postpartum.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I've been in the upper range for some of our kids and I've been below that for really just one.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then for the lower end, for our last baby, live in, I never stepped on scale the whole time.
[SPEAKER_01]: We didn't have one when we were kind of moving around in different people's homes.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I have no clue what happened and just what happened happened.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think one reason why before I'm getting into like specifics, I'm talking so much.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: No.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's so far so good.
[SPEAKER_00]: You haven't said anything too shocking that like you haven't revealed any new information.
[SPEAKER_00]: Awesome.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's awesome.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that something that what was I going to say with, oh, I think, since feeling that call to be open to life in our marriage, my mindset has just shifted to with pregnancy and really wanting to do pregnancy well, make it sustainable, have it be great.
[SPEAKER_01]: To be married during this time, have the kids feel like I'm a great person during this time and Lord willing make it sustainable In case it happens again You know, I'd like I can't like guarantee on the other side a really long break of like oh I feel like myself again or things like that It's not like a lie shit.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to be wise and make decisions that way but also
[SPEAKER_01]: being really open-handed with that timing is something that I think has made me want to be really intentional with my pregnancies just so that they aren't overtaxing on the family and everybody feels like they need a break because I've been cranky or in pain or tired or you know something for a long season and also so I'm not like super emotional if I end up getting pregnant sooner than maybe I would have hoped.
[SPEAKER_01]: I kind of feeling like myself through pregnancy and then myself after pregnancy is kind of my philosophy at this point as a goal.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because I think probably a lot of couples that have a very definitive plan for a certain number of children that they hope to hit and then stop having kids after that.
[SPEAKER_00]: it's easy to kick into the mind so probably both the husband and the wife be like well we'll just kind of get through this you know child carrying season and then we'll do it you know whatever we'll be in a better mood or we'll have more time for the kids we'll have more time for our marriage like then I'll have time to work out
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know, then I'll have time, then we'll have a great intimate life, then, you know, just whatever the case may be of whatever you're kind of putting on hold and I definitely had that perspective with our six baby when we thought six is it for us and, um, yeah, I was just like, oh, well, this is the last time.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's fine.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, when my back was giving out, it's like, oh, well, this is the last time.
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll just get through it, you know.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so if, like, oh, I don't want to be like,
[SPEAKER_01]: chronic invalid if I can help it if it's within my power for three months every, you know, out of every 18.
[SPEAKER_01]: But again, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what the Lord has in store.
[SPEAKER_01]: So again, not taking any life for granted, not trying to take it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Flippantly, but also just trying to steward what God has given and manage that well.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so my health isn't the reason that we feel like we need to take drastic measures to both point of pregnancy.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and not to totally derail from talking about pregnancy, but I just think that that's a principle that we can apply to so many areas of life.
[SPEAKER_00]: Anytime we take on the attitude of, I'm just going to get through the season and I'll be better once, I'm going to less stressful season, oftentimes that season never comes, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Whether it's with our child training, whether it's our, you mentioned health, our finances.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, even just seeing some people that were close to, and you see that the more fruitful you are in your life, the more and more
[SPEAKER_00]: I guess responsibility you have as life goes on, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: And so if you're being productive with your time in your younger years, you only have more of a, you could call it a burden, but they're really just kind of, they could be gifts and blessings and responsibilities.
[SPEAKER_00]: The later you go on in life.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so I think learning to just,
[SPEAKER_00]: to just be better in the season that you're in so that it sets you up to be better in the next season rather than having the goal be like well I'll be better once I'm done with this season knowing that of course certain seasons are going to present unique challenges and you might not hit certain benchmarks but you can still try to be your best in that season yes exactly so some things that have changed in the last few weeks are like food so for me
[SPEAKER_01]: at a very temperate first trimester part of that being we were in the lint season and that just makes you want to be temperate.
[SPEAKER_01]: I had certain goals during that season and and challenges for myself and that season and then second trimester I feel like I fell into gluttony.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was talking to a lot about this and it's funny because I think usually we assume that gluttony looks a certain way.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's kind of like, oh, you can tell who a person struggles with it or not, is what you could assume from the outside.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's funny because I was reading a devotional and they were saying how it's really old devotional.
[SPEAKER_01]: Not very like body-positive.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was just saying how gluttony is if you can curb your gluttony, all other spiritual disciplines will be easier.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, I feel like that's so true, it's, it doesn't matter what your weight is or how you look like, it's anyone could be gluttonous, and it's basically just if I want it, I have it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And not having any self-restraint on what I am eating or when I am eating it, or how much it's just like, I just want what I want and I satisfy those, those urges.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because that was so convicting when you read that section to me because I would agree with you.
[SPEAKER_00]: I would always put, you know, I would like look at my overall health or my overall fitness, you know, and be like, well, I'm staying pretty healthy and I would have zero conscience issue with eating kind of whenever I wanted to or because it's like, I'll work at, I'm very active.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to burn all those calories and I'm staying at the weight that I want to be
[SPEAKER_00]: Man, if I'm just saying yes to my appetites all the time, that's being gluttonous in rather than having self-control and saying now I'm going to curb this like you said and it does strengthen all the other spiritual disciplines.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's just not satisfying the flesh.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, the food is one area that in our over abundant culture today.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's easy to satisfy the flesh whenever we want in that area.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I always considered it a healthy, not like a spiritual thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so anyways, that was a big wake-up call for me.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so, but that said, I already, your insulin, okay, I don't, I can't remember the actual terms.
[SPEAKER_01]: But basically, you become more insulin resistant in your third trimester, and I've known that in the past.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so, I already knew that I wanted to cut down on carbohydrates in my third trimester because you just start storing them.
[SPEAKER_01]: instead of you burning them a lot more in that third trimester and I've had historically small babies like a little too small in some instances aside from my protein baby which was Lionel and he was nine pounds and just hasn't let up.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's just a healthy chunker.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, do you want to explain what you mean by the protein, baby?
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm protein, baby.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's true.
[SPEAKER_01]: I created a lot of content on this at the time.
[SPEAKER_01]: But basically, I'm doing a lot of the same things that I'm doing that I did with that pregnancy.
[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe I should just run through those.
[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So to start with, I'm intermittently fasting again.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I'm doing a 16 hour fasting window.
[SPEAKER_01]: And again, fasting is an extreme term to just say, I'm not eating between dinner and breakfast, and making sure those gaps are 16 hours.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that right there really just curbs my flesh.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's funny because the first time that I did this with Lionel, I straight up just had selfish reasons for it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was overweight in my pregnancy and I didn't want to be.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I lost 10 pounds while I was pregnant and by doing this whole intermittent fasting thing and I was cranky.
[SPEAKER_01]: during those fasting windows like I was irritable and I was hungry and I was annoyed at the kids and I just I remember telling friends afterwards, oh I just love not being pregnant but I really felt like well it's fine obviously I'm hungry like at that point I gave myself an excuse my whole life to be hangry and so this was one of those things it's like I can't be in a good mood right now I'm starving and it's breakfast time and so I'm gonna be annoyed
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I think that's just a commonly accepted standard for all of like Western Christians.
[SPEAKER_00]: Is we, I don't, I've done that.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, oh, I'm low on calories.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's why I'm short and snappy with the kids, or, you know, I'm not being a role, you know, I guess communicative with you because I'm hungry, you know, I've, and, and that's so convicting to,
[SPEAKER_00]: Like when you look at the fruits of the spear, when you look at what it means to be a Christian, to really rise above that, like your fleshly feeling.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's like you're not catering to one aspect of your flesh, you're giving in to another aspect.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I said, like it was, it was no spiritual growth was happening, that's for sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then since this last year with Elijah and I getting utilizing, I guess fasting is a spiritual discipline more, and not since I've been pregnant.
[SPEAKER_01]: for me, but you start to realize, oh, like the whole reason I'm doing this is to be more contrite before the Lord to be in a more spiritual place in terms of seeking Him and reliance on Him and dependence on Him.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's really counterproductive.
[SPEAKER_01]: to then be just barking at everyone in a noide.
[SPEAKER_01]: And what's that saying to the kids?
[SPEAKER_01]: What's that even saying to the growth of us spiritually?
[SPEAKER_01]: Like nothing's happening.
[SPEAKER_01]: That is fruitful.
[SPEAKER_01]: If that's the case.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah, because I mean, that's the thing is
[SPEAKER_00]: you know like when you there there will be like very gracious people at you me that you have no clue are in chronic pain and you're like man I I'm not I wouldn't be that person like if I jack up my back at jujitsu or if I hurt my you know if I've got to you know what my static nerve thing you know like that is in that everybody would know about it
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, every single person would know about it because I would wear it on my face, it would be in my temper temperament.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't, I want to grow as a person so that, because, I mean, our bodies are going to hurt more and more.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's time goes on.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I want to be able to transcend that and to be in a place where I'm able to exemplify the fruits of the spirit and not have the discomfort of my body be what everyone knows before.
[SPEAKER_01]: yeah and give ourselves the excuse to sin because we're in pain and that's crazy like when you see like a joyful older person you might just assume they're in good health but that's not the case and I think that
[SPEAKER_01]: There are a lot of real listeners, I'm sure that are in chronic pain all the time.
[SPEAKER_01]: And my heart goes out to you, I think that's a beautiful way to unite with Christ.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's something that is a testimony in the way that you're living your life.
[SPEAKER_01]: So anyways, I admire those of you who are in those positions.
[SPEAKER_01]: But that said, I, this time, I feel like I just have a totally different perspective on fasting.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a joy to fast.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not a big deal when I feel those hunger pains or things in the morning.
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like I'm still able to just be joy-filled and patient and just have, I'm not, I'm not perfect.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I do feel like my perspective is totally changed because of that practice throughout this last year of like, oh, I am free to be to walk freely and Christ in this moment even despite being hungry a little bit, you know, so in 16 hours is is nothing compared to like
[SPEAKER_00]: forty days or so.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I would be dead.
[SPEAKER_01]: There was no way.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, okay, 16 hour fast.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then I'm also doing three meals a day, no snacks.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so, again, this isn't crazy stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is what people have done for forever.
[SPEAKER_01]: And when there wasn't just an abundance of
[SPEAKER_01]: non-perishable food.
[SPEAKER_00]: Sure, it's grab and go food at home.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you think they're like, oh, I'm going to go kill the fatted calf.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you're like, I'm hungry right now, like, you know, long it takes to kill a cow and butcher it and cook it and all this stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, a long time.
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyways, so...
[SPEAKER_01]: Because of that, whenever I go to three meals a day, I really need to up protein, because when I eat how I like to eat, which is like sourdough and hot cereal in the morning, and then, like carbohydrates for lunch, carbohydrates for dinner, pasta, rice, like basically having that be my main base, that does not keep me full of the next meal.
[SPEAKER_01]: So not only am I more insulin resistant when I'm pregnant, but I need more of those carbs and I need to snack on carbs in order to be able to stay full, and yet it's all just kind of getting stored away instead of burned.
[SPEAKER_01]: So burn is fuel.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's kind of counterproductive.
[SPEAKER_01]: So like my breakfasts are
[SPEAKER_01]: cottage cheese.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love to heat up berries like when you melt berries in a pan.
[SPEAKER_01]: So good put those on top, put the cons on.
[SPEAKER_00]: So they start frozen the berries.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, they start frozen and then you melt them.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's cheaper that way.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's why instead of fresh berries, I'd put fresh berries on but like they go bad quickly and the frozen ones I have on hand and it makes kind of a berry compote.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then I fry or scrambled eggs, I might do bacon.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to think of some other things.
[SPEAKER_01]: Today I made a bone broth brownie.
[SPEAKER_01]: So just like eggs and bone broth and chocolate bone broth and cocoa powder.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that was that?
[SPEAKER_01]: That was that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's so good.
[SPEAKER_00]: Awesome, was a winner, huh?
[SPEAKER_01]: It was.
[SPEAKER_01]: I learned about that with my protein baby emergency.
[SPEAKER_01]: So anyways, yeah, the kids, I'm always eating like, and honestly, it's been a real gift.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, I really need to do this all the time because it makes breakfast time so less, so much less stressful, because I do kind of resent having to get up and get the three younger kids seconds on their food because they're done with it before I sit down, usually for breakfast, and then I like to read the Bible at breakfast time,
[SPEAKER_01]: Then I'm kind of resenting that my food's totally cold, or I'm like, hold on, mama's got to eat real quick.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, so it's like, it really just smooths out all of breakfast.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I'm in a little discomfort because I would like to be eating, but aside from that, it's like sure, no problem.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a free agent.
[SPEAKER_01]: I can get up and help the kids.
[SPEAKER_01]: I can read, I'm just very accessible.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it works out well for our home.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's what I'm doing.
[SPEAKER_01]: For one cheese, like a lot of tuna, I'd love tuna, and I'm not being super picky with like zero carbs, this pregnancy, I'm just trying to have.
[SPEAKER_01]: based the meal around protein and then the same thing with dinner.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm still having carbs with dinner but instead of like I've had I had bread last night but for the past couple weeks I've been trying to be like rice or quinoa or a more complex car.
[SPEAKER_00]: Sure yeah or chickpea pasta.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: That was my protein pasta.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, it's tasty, too.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's good.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know I tell the light shows like, this is chickpea pasta.
[SPEAKER_01]: I hope you like it.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's great.
[SPEAKER_00]: Good.
[SPEAKER_01]: Love it.
[SPEAKER_01]: So having more meat stuff like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: So anyways, that's how food is.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not trying to lose weight this pregnancy.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just want to gain weight healthily from here on out.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so that is why I'm not cutting out all carbs completely, whereas with my protein baby pregnancy,
[SPEAKER_01]: like tiny amounts of like rice and stuff like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: So.
[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if I have anything else to add to that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like you're looking at me like I'm supposed to comment on that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like all I know.
[SPEAKER_01]: What are your comments on my day?
[SPEAKER_00]: I only have positive feedback because you are.
[SPEAKER_00]: I've loved the way that I've been able to eat throughout this pregnancy because I really am grateful for how intentionally you're being with your, especially like the third trimester you know here as a plate.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to head in into the third trimester when I started this.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well you've gotten really creative with those higher protein meals and it's made it really enjoyable for me.
[SPEAKER_00]: because I don't think maybe my appetites changed or just my goals for my life have changed, but I don't recall when you're eating more high protein low carb, me enjoying it as much, but I've really enjoyed this.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, good.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's both.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's like, you're just appreciating healthier food more.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, definitely.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then also, hopefully have gotten better.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think you've gotten way better.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: We've got this good.
[SPEAKER_01]: Something that I'm doing that's the same again as is Lionel.
[SPEAKER_01]: That pregnancy was my fifth.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: My fifth and my son.
[SPEAKER_00]: The high protein or the protein baby.
[SPEAKER_01]: The protein baby was tracking.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I do have in the back of my notebook.
[SPEAKER_01]: I do track like how much water I'm drinking.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm drinking 96 ounces a day.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think with Lionel, I was drinking like 120 or 130 ounces a day.
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, I'm just not going as extreme.
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like I don't.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't need that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm in a healthier place with this pregnancy.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so that's kind of my water.
[SPEAKER_01]: Track my fast times and I track.
[SPEAKER_01]: what I'm doing for working out.
[SPEAKER_01]: So for working out, again, like the second trimester was kind of a, what was it, just a failure?
[SPEAKER_00]: No, are you kidding me?
[SPEAKER_00]: You were, you did, you conquered the world and you're second trimester.
[SPEAKER_00]: What are you talking about?
[SPEAKER_01]: I did a lot of stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: You were on the computer.
[SPEAKER_00]: You were hosting non-stop overnight guests, which is a full-time job.
[SPEAKER_00]: We were leasing out this studio space and coming in here to like, you know, select, you know,
[SPEAKER_00]: It was a very, and then we were traveling a ton too.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's the classic summer where you're going to events.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so, yeah, I mean, we were, yeah, we were traveling a bunch.
[SPEAKER_01]: We were, and so, you somehow still worked out.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, well, but you were very active.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's not like you ever got unhealthy because you were always moving.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you might not have done like what you considered to be your workout regimen, but you were a very active person.
[SPEAKER_01]: I felt like I would have only one day a week, realistically.
[SPEAKER_01]: where I was like, oh, I'm going to go on a fast walk or I'm going to lift weights or something.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was happening one time a week in an intentional workout type activity and then aside from that, I do move a lot in our house.
[SPEAKER_01]: I get a lot of steps and stuff like that, but it was not...
[SPEAKER_01]: like strength training and stuff like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I knew there was a good chance it would bite me and it did about two weeks ago.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like my back pain came out of nowhere.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I had been feeling so good.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then, you know, speaking of chronic pain.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I sure heard about it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, no, it's back.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I thought it was just a road trip we did, but then it was like, no, this is it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And if I don't,
[SPEAKER_01]: do something about it.
[SPEAKER_01]: It gets to be a really big deal.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I start having to ask the kids, like, oh, can you pick that up?
[SPEAKER_01]: Mama can't bend down, Mama's in pain.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I just, I want my kids to have a good association with their mother being pregnant.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know I had a good association with my mom being pregnant.
[SPEAKER_01]: She had terrible varicose veins.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I remember rubbing them at night.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes she'd get like, we called it the sack.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, she had a huge bulbous blood sack on her foot that
[SPEAKER_01]: But I never remember feeling like a burden or hurt your ability because the pain she was going through.
[SPEAKER_01]: I also didn't want to just be talking to a life-shadowed all the time.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I've learned this in the past that what I used to think is, oh, my back hurts.
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't do anything.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like that's the exact opposite of what I need to do.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just saying like, I have bad form, the water started.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not really concerned about waterline aside from the fact, from an aesthetic point of view, aside from the fact that it throws out my back and then I start to like arch my back and stick out my belly and like my whole body starts, you know, like when it's like,
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, like compromising kind of.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like caring for other parts of it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then you just get like all out of whack.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I felt myself start waddling.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, it's too soon to have the waddle.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is supposed to be like a week or two.
[SPEAKER_01]: We've already have birth.
[SPEAKER_00]: No compensate.
[SPEAKER_00]: Compensate your biceps to compensate.
[SPEAKER_01]: Compensate.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the word.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's it.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I went, I was like, I need a workout plan that works and nothing has worked for me in terms of me sticking with it or my desire to stick with it since doing daily routine fitness with my protein baby.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I realized I was trying to figure out
[SPEAKER_01]: What it was about that program that was so great for me because what's kind of unfortunate is it was twenty five dollars a month to do this program And this gal it was like her workouts were noteworthy or anything They were like with ten pound dumbbells in a band like a leg band But she had a week's worth of videos every week.
[SPEAKER_01]: So above the video It's a like Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday Friday
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's ever since I've just tried to go, she changed the program from $25 a month to now, like you have to call and book a call until get you in the best shape of your life and it's like a very big commitment.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you work with nutritionalists and like, I haven't booked a call, but I'm guessing it's not $25 a month anymore.
[SPEAKER_01]: Does that make sense?
[SPEAKER_00]: So, do you know, I have access to the old membership?
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, so she can't fold it.
[SPEAKER_01]: So basically now, I mean, it was a great business move, but she's probably selling now like more like a thousand dollar price tag for like a 12 week program or something like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like that's what it looks like on the front and in order to make it worth it to have all these people she's hiring and we can get into her business later.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sure, and it would all be speculation because we don't know the call yet, but I I might do it post bar and I'm or something like that, but it just seems like a really big commitment.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like I just kind of need to work.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't need to be in the best shape of my life right now Okay, just don't want my back to hurt right so I ended up just it dawn on me I was like maybe I should just search like
[SPEAKER_01]: If we get what I YouTube search, but just like a video per day or something, workout program, I probably said it a little more concise than that, and Google came up with like an old, I don't know if you guys like, new of Jillian Michaels, my mom did her workouts like at home when I was growing up.
[SPEAKER_01]: And she came out with this 28 shred program.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't really need a shred.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was saying, like, hopefully it'll just make shedding easier down the road.
[SPEAKER_01]: But her workouts are laid out for the week.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so it's like, do these workouts this week.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I've been sticking with it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, there we go.
[SPEAKER_00]: You guys like long work.
[SPEAKER_01]: I have.
[SPEAKER_00]: And folks, she's getting up at so early.
[SPEAKER_00]: She's getting up being in prayer, being in God's Word, and cranking out these workouts.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's really inspirational.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, well, you inspire me, you do it through all seasons, I'm in my, I admire you.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I like just my inspiration, but I, I'm not, I've never been pregnant and doing it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't, or most part of them, or so basically, you know, excuses, which I do, and it's you never can cash in on an excuse.
[SPEAKER_01]: You just have to be in great shape all the time and discipline to all the time.
[SPEAKER_01]: no, I admire you.
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I think the clarity of knowing I have something waiting for me tomorrow that's supposed to be done tomorrow.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's something that it feels like this to do list item that's on place down my to-do list that I have to get done and it feels really good versus like I should work out tomorrow.
[SPEAKER_01]: I should probably go find a video on YouTube.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know why it's just like this is the video and it's supposed to be done.
[SPEAKER_01]: And if I miss that video, then like I'm behind mentally.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just been very good for me.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I can't say the workouts are like the best in the world.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like there's a lot of jumping in some of them.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not jumping right now.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not freaking around.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I just
[SPEAKER_01]: I, I just modified during those parts and then same with some of the core workouts.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, I would rather be squatting or doing something like that than I can't do like ab crunches or something.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I just put another workout in, but I'm working out for the 35 minutes and it feels really good.
[SPEAKER_01]: the first two days just in case any of you guys ever experienced like back pain and there's all kinds of different back pain but I think mine is muscular and you do this don't be discouraged if it kills worse for like the first three days because all my muscles that I haven't engaged all of a sudden got tight.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then it's like my whole body's hurting, and my back's hurting.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I know from experience just keep going.
[SPEAKER_01]: And now it's like, my back doesn't start hurting until like eight at night.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm thinking it's going to go completely away.
[SPEAKER_00]: We should really really try foundation's training.
[SPEAKER_00]: You honestly should.
[SPEAKER_00]: Why, you've always laughed at me what I'm doing now, but it's, it is.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know that's all for you.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's incredible.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's miraculous.
[SPEAKER_01]: When I was 15, there was a guy that we knew.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he was like, you guys need to do foundation's training.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was just like, this is so weird.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I still kind of think that, okay, so I do think it's really helpful.
[SPEAKER_01]: It is.
[SPEAKER_01]: I do think overall though, like you're really muscular and you get bound up.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I do think foundation's training could help.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I feel like long-term, I need a strength in my muscles.
[SPEAKER_00]: It does strengthen your muscles a little bit more like with weight honestly until foundation training is like in my mind head and shoulders the best for back pain Okay, head and shoulders for back pain.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just feel like when my glutes are engaged and my upper back is engaged and my core is engaged And everything like all those muscles are strengthened then it like protects like creates this protective barrier around my back
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what foundation is training does.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's strength and there's all those things.
[SPEAKER_01]: OK. You guys should check out foundation's training.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll probably check it out.
[SPEAKER_00]: I swear by it.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm not going to lie.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm kind of in it for the body composition, too.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, foundation's training won't give you won't give you.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like, I feel like in the long term, it's kind of helpful to have that tone.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, so.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just another thing to add, but I really should try to check it out.
[SPEAKER_01]: So anyways, okay, that's what I'm doing for working out.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm alternating between a fast walk, that's three miles, and then on Mondays, I go with the Katie running club and Sadie running club, and we do a fast walk that usually a little longer, like three and a half to four and a half miles, and
[SPEAKER_01]: It's been so sweet because half the girls could totally be running right now.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're training for other things.
[SPEAKER_01]: They are running right now, but then half of us are pregnant.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so they're fast-walking for us pregnant gals, and it's just very sweet.
[SPEAKER_01]: So anyways, that's always fun on Monday mornings.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I feel like that is primarily it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Really.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, what else?
[SPEAKER_01]: What else?
[SPEAKER_00]: Let me see here.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's like water, food, working out.
[SPEAKER_01]: I am going to bed and getting like seven hours of sleep.
[SPEAKER_01]: I would say consistently right now.
[SPEAKER_01]: I would love to get eight hours or more, but just like,
[SPEAKER_01]: I know I can be fine on seven hours.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, I'd say we're doing pretty good at going to bed early, like before 10.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And like, to get up at five, I'd prefer to go to bed like by nine, but it's still kind of like the last golden days of summer, so things are still a little later.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I also don't, again, I'm not like being super extreme during this time.
[SPEAKER_01]: I kind of want to still enjoy summer and yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: you know the kids are going to bed still a little bit later and they're enjoying that and yeah we're doing kind of like the slow rolling start into fall which is which is fun because it's like you start enjoying some of the scholastic activities, some of the work and routines but then you still have these summer days where you know you get to go to the lake and enjoying an evening walk you know so.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I feel like energy wise though, I'm great energy all day.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, I'll say you blow me away.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like napping a ton of, I was in the second trimester.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I was expecting you to, because you've been so consistent getting up early.
[SPEAKER_00]: And some of these nice, you've not gotten a ton of sleep.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like they said you've mostly gotten seven.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'll think, oh, man, you're, like you're pregnant with the afternoon, but you've just powered through with a smile on your face.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the Lord's been gracious, like I haven't been tired.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if it's the endorphins from working out or like I'm kind of thinking that the food I was eating before was actually making me like crash in the afternoon.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: Honey, not Cheerio, it's just still get you through.
[SPEAKER_01]: I would like go for something sweet in the afternoon and it's kind of a pick-me-up.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, oh, I wonder if I would then I get a crash from that and I'd be like, oh, I need a nap.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I just feel exhausted.
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, you know, it's I think of like Daniel the pulse and no any eight vegetables and oh yeah, you're right.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's like bright.
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like like my energy is actually coming back in the third trimester.
[SPEAKER_01]: And again, I say third trimester, we're just in the first week of the third trimester, but the couple weeks leading into the third trimester is like when I'm like, okay, time for a
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well we made sure to record the episode while you're feeling stoked about the third trimester.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what we needed to do.
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll give you a later update before we go into labor.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think some things I'm trying to avoid too.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, it's like my back, very practical trying to avoid that.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the other thing is water retention.
[SPEAKER_01]: really practically trying to avoid that.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's why I'm drinking a lot of water.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm doing element electrolytes like once a day.
[SPEAKER_01]: And a couple of days I missed.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I just got a lot of cramping in my legs.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was telling my life, I think it's because I know you can be low in calcium and magnesium and those things.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I think specifically with this, I'm not eating a lot of salts or sugars in my regular diet now.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so if I don't have those added,
[SPEAKER_01]: Salt's right it yeah just doesn't work out very well also I still do have a code for element and I get a free box when you guys purchase a box I don't know if you get anything through our link so you could check it out maybe it's a loose for you maybe you get like a free box I don't know but I'll put it down below because I do buy a lot of those boxes when doing electrolytes.
[SPEAKER_00]: Awesome, folks, thank you all so much.
[SPEAKER_00]: One last thing, are you doing anything different supplementation-wise?
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I'm just taking a ProBaitality Pack a day and a, um, stress pack a day right now, which just has a lot of like B vitamins, lanym, like, minerals, and then I am taking Cal Mac, like calcium and magnesium, and that's it.
[SPEAKER_01]: That is all I'm currently taking and I'm doing that daily.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, maybe that's why I actually have a lot more energy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like that trend ends kicking in, the B vitamins are kicking in.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know I should probably be taking endurance too, which is like a, it's beef lover supplement.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just, I just haven't gotten that one in the rhythm yet.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, because you kind of have to separate some of them, so that the one vitamin isn't blocking the other one's absorption.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I kind of just like to take them all at one time.
[SPEAKER_01]: Or, you know, morning and evening and so I haven't quite figured out how to work in the beef liver into the equation.
[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, thank you, Katie.
[SPEAKER_00]: I, um, that was sorry for me.
[SPEAKER_01]: I talked so much you guys.
[SPEAKER_00]: I wanted, I wanted to hear an update on how you're doing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: I never get to hear about it from you.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so it was good to be able to have a moment here, you know, of uninterrupted conversation with you to hear about the how the pregnancy's going.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, thank you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Folks, thank you all so much for listening.
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll talk you next time, bye-bye.