[SPEAKER_00]: This is the Jockel Underground podcast number 226, sitting here with Echo Charles, who just recently failed to press record on the recorder.
[SPEAKER_00]: We got a little into the podcast before we recognize that.
[SPEAKER_00]: But we have hit rewind mentally and we are going to get into some questions from the front line, from the trenches, from those of you that are out there, with a rubber meet the road, we will provide answers in some cases.
[SPEAKER_00]: Recommendations in other cases and at a minimum, we'll give you some courses of action that you can follow So that you can navigate whatever situation and issues you're dealing with at this time So let's get into it.
[SPEAKER_00]: We are recording.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, we are providing confirm double confirm.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right for that double check.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, first question talk I go
[SPEAKER_01]: What do you think about Jonah Hill's recent statements?
[SPEAKER_01]: He seemed to be into, he seems to be into the jujuts, and he seemed to be talking tough on a recent interview with some other actors.
[SPEAKER_01]: Jason Bateman will aren't at and shoneys.
[SPEAKER_01]: He said, I love jujuts, but my body is begging me to not love it.
[SPEAKER_01]: 42-year-old, my wife often says, you're not going to be a professional fighter, you know that, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: You're a comedian.
[SPEAKER_01]: The other actor, Jason Bateman, asked,
[SPEAKER_01]: Jonah replied with, I would fuck you up.
[SPEAKER_01]: I would fuck all three of you up, referring to the other actors, baby, and aren't enemies.
[SPEAKER_01]: Jonah continues with my, with.
[SPEAKER_01]: He continues with my favorite thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: People say, oh, Jonah Hill, that fact guy from Superbette, and I'm like, I would fucking annihilate you.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you see me, try it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Unless you're way bigger than me, fuck around him, find out.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, what do you both think about this as black belts and practitioners who have competed and been in real street fights in your lifetime?
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, uh, Jonah Hill, you know, right on.
[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome aboard.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'd say he's got the classic late white belt, blue belt, maybe even early purple belt.
[SPEAKER_00]: Attitude of this, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: I can beat people up now.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's especially pronounced when people come from a background where they couldn't couldn't beat people up and kind of knew they didn't couldn't beat people up.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Because even like when you
[SPEAKER_00]: You still, you before you started training, you kind of had an attitude that you could beat people up.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I would, the, the small distinction is I knew a little bit of jujitsu technically before I started training because I took it out because I, in high school, we got the Gracie, uh, trick-in in high school.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah, I thought you're going to say you had some kind of program in high school.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I would, the, the small distinction is I knew a little bit of jujitsu technically before I started training because I took it out because I, in high school, we got the Gracie, uh, trick-in in high school.
[SPEAKER_01]: High school.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought you're going to say you had some kind of program in high school.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, exactly right.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's I mean technically sure did I think I could fight better and I was like kind of I guess bigger and stronger whatever and more athletic in my opinion.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but it was for the reason it wasn't I'm just not this guy who sees red.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, not at all.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I thought that I could handle myself pretty good in fights.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'd been in a lot of fights when I was a kid.
[SPEAKER_00]: Usually did pretty good, especially when I got I got beat up a few times younger And then as I got older, I got a little bit more experienced and Did a little bit better, but also was just you know kind of the kind of what The like the seeing red type thing what that really means is
[SPEAKER_00]: If you strike first and go crazy, like real fast, like a lot of people don't want to have any problem later on, they don't want that kind of beef, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: So you Have confidence that you can handle yourself And so I kind of felt like that so when I got introduced to Jitsu, it was more like holy crap Like I don't know what that I'm doing
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, you take someone like Jonah Hill who I'm assuming was not like a real fist of cuffs kind of guy and probably was always walking around with like probably not real confident in his ability to fight which is a lot of guys, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, a lot of guys that didn't do any sports at all because even in sports, you get
[SPEAKER_00]: You feel like I'm a little bit more strong than this guy.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a little bit faster in this guy.
[SPEAKER_00]: I can take this guy that you have that feeling when you interact with other people.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think athletics in general gives you a certain level of confidence on how you're going to do against other people.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you never really did that, you're going to be a question mark in your brain.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: So now when you get on the mats of justice and you start training and all of a sudden it's like this whole
[SPEAKER_00]: Paradigm shift in what you fought because you go again.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm talking about people that were on athletic or didn't participate in athletics Didn't do a lot of fighting didn't do any fighting because their mind they're always thinking I'm gonna get my ass kicked So now you get this paradigm shifts where you believe you can kick people asses, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's gonna feel pretty good and that's what he's that's what you feel expressed here, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: I would annihilate you right that's that's what's being expressed is that kind of that kind of influx of confidence Because when I learned you did so I was like okay like I feel more confident now, but it wasn't a paradigm shift in what I thought I thought I was already pretty good fighter
[SPEAKER_00]: And then I was like, oh, I don't know a lot, but now I can handle myself even better.
[SPEAKER_00]: That wasn't a paradigm shift.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is a paradigm shift for a dude like Jonah Hill, who goes from being an on-athletic.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if he's on-athletic, but not involved in athletics.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know what, maybe he did, did you sports, do you know?
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, but he did very specifically say, oh, uh, people say the fact guy from Superbat.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, so it's almost like, I don't know, it feels like that identity might be kind of following him around or something like this.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I think that insurgents of confidence, it it tips the scale a little bit too much, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm not being negative about just dealing with like explaining the reality.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: It just tips the scale where people are like, oh, I'm a badass now.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, after a little while, that will start to wear off, and he'll start to, like, even says, unless you're way bigger than me, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Because he's had a couple big boys come in there and kind of run game on and he's like, well, what the hell?
[SPEAKER_00]: And pretty soon he's going to learn that also, like, oh, this dude wrestled in high school, or also this guy played, you know, D1 football, or whatever.
[SPEAKER_00]: So now, now those become equalizers.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because when you're a white bell, blue bell, and you get a guy that played D1 football, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Same size as you, maybe a little bit smaller.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's a problem.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, and he trained, he did six classes, and he's a problem.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, the day one, you might catch him in a guillotine, might catch him in an arm lock, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: If you're strong, you might catch him.
[SPEAKER_00]: But as soon as he knows, it's kind of keep his arms in and, you know, like, you got a problem on your hands.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you're a white belt, blue belt.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so he's gonna get there.
[SPEAKER_00]: He'll be a little bit more humble and then, you know, purple belt.
[SPEAKER_00]: He'll be pretty humble guy and then by, you know, brown belt.
[SPEAKER_00]: He'll realize I think the ultimate realization that I think it's is a good thing to come to is
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, I just been trained in longer than this other person and it doesn't make me a better human being it just means I've been trained a little bit longer Just like just like Jonah Hill would beat me at acting because he's that's what he does for a living and he does it all the time cool And he's going to out act a lot of people because he's just been doing it longer.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what he does and eventually go on you know what now if you think you're a better human being
[SPEAKER_00]: because you're good at your job or you're good at something you've been done for a long time.
[SPEAKER_00]: You've been doing for a long time.
[SPEAKER_00]: That might not be the best for your mental health.
[SPEAKER_00]: It might make you a little bit arrogant.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I think he'll continue down the normal progression of jujitsu, which is, oh my gosh, I don't know anything to six to 18 months in.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm actually the
[SPEAKER_00]: I went up to like the three-year mark where you're kind of like, oh actually there's a lot of people that are real threat to me to hey you know what this is just another part of the life and I'm really happy that I get to train and it's really fun and I know that it's not something that I should
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't hold it against them.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't look down on someone because I can kick their ass.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_00]: That's kind of a place you need to reach in your life.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's real easy to fall into the trap.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Of like, well, I can kick your ass.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm kind of like a little bit better than you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because fundamentally, as an animal,
[SPEAKER_00]: as an animal in the pack like I can kick your ass so therefore I'm better than you and you know you you might be a little bit smarter than me you might be a little bit richer than me you might be a little bit more witty than me but I'll kick your ass right here where's if you go to like the the base end of human beings
[SPEAKER_00]: that's not what we're proud of right we're not we don't go you know that guy he might be you know a crackhead and a criminal this family hates and his family hates him but he can kick your ass like we don't we don't say that right so had a certain point don't he'll be like yeah fighting is definitely a cool skill to have it's fun and I'm glad he's training that's awesome good for him keep getting after it don't he'll and Jason Bateman will our net and Sean Hayes
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, that's what I recommend.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, whoever those guys are around Jason Bateman.
[SPEAKER_01]: Who was he in the man?
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, he's in a lot of stuff, but there's one, uh, the most recent one that I really got into was Ozark.
[SPEAKER_01]: He was in no one, but he's been in stuff since day one.
[SPEAKER_01]: Chuck.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's with, yeah, anyway.
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, really good.
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, oh, I'm doing hell's really good too.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, shit.
[SPEAKER_00]: Who's he?
[SPEAKER_00]: Wait, was Jason Bateman?
[SPEAKER_00]: Who's he?
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, aren't that then?
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, our net is a funny guy.
[SPEAKER_01]: He was in, oh, there's, you'll know when you see him or someone's popular movie that I will recognize.
[SPEAKER_01]: He was one where he was this real smart me bad guy.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's kind of a comedic funny guy, but he's like,
[SPEAKER_00]: I guess he's kind of alpha, you know, like these characters, you know, you'd have to see him and what about Sean Hayes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sean Hayes, I am less familiar with Sean Hayes, I know that he was, I think this was like a public podcast scenario.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's kind of, when you think of Jonah Hill, what do you think of?
[SPEAKER_01]: Forgetting ceremonial super bad the one where they they also the one thing I just got the weapon.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a world for walls for walls.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, to me.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's great in all of them to me Forgetting ceremonial, Brad.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how and that's one of the better movies out there My opinion.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, what's it called for getting ceremonial what's out about the guy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know He breaks up with his famous girlfriend goes to Hawaii star Jonah Hill is one of the main guys.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah
[SPEAKER_01]: Is he the one that broke up with his girlfriend or not, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, Russell Brand.
[SPEAKER_01]: Russell Brand.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I think if that's funny, I don't think of him.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think of like him as being in the actor in movies, but I forget that he is an actor.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's one of his freaking greatest rules too.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like the whole movie, just who they got for that movie.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a classic.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I could see they picked the right guy to play the ex or the new boy friend, 100% so good.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it goes as good as you think he'll be in that movie.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's that good and better in that movie.
[SPEAKER_01]: They actually, they all are even Jonah Hill, where he was.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's like a waiter that apparently moved there from the main of the now he's a waiter with such a It's a real thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a real thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so he's kind of the or he's like the host.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a host at a restaurant kind of a waiter I think a he's a waiter too and he's in there with his thing and he's like all these little side things that really have like he's like What's his name all this snow or whatever?
[SPEAKER_01]: He's like
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, all this.
[SPEAKER_01]: Here's my demo tape, you know, like that kind of, it's super funny.
[SPEAKER_00]: Is does Russell play like a, because he's the new boyfriend, but what's his job in real life?
[SPEAKER_00]: Is he like a famous guy?
[SPEAKER_01]: He's all just snow.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know if you know Russell Brandt's kind of history in acting and performing his weather.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's part of like a band that's, I guess pseudo, um, thick, tishist or whatever.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like, it's like a real band, but his name and his name is a actual guy.
[SPEAKER_01]: His name, all this snow.
[SPEAKER_01]: So if you ever want to get him to the Greek, which is another movie with Russell Brown, he's all this snowing now and as well as James A.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he's the singer of a band and Joan Hills and now and too.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, but so he's all just know in forgetting Sarah Marshall and the Sarah Marshall's dating all this snow, super famous.
[SPEAKER_01]: So anyway, it's super funny the way they did it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Did you
[SPEAKER_00]: I think the movie is called Meet the Fockers.
[SPEAKER_00]: Meet the Fockers.
[SPEAKER_00]: Meet the parents.
[SPEAKER_00]: Meet the Fockers.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh and Wilson.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: He plays the ex-boyfriend.
[SPEAKER_01]: But that's meet the parents.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Is it?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that one, dude.
[SPEAKER_00]: The way that Owen Wilson, the way he portrays that character.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like the worst ever ex-boyfriend that you could come up with.
[SPEAKER_00]: When he builds that like altar out and he's like yeah, talk about you know 2,300 man hours, but you know, I like working with my hands Yeah, which was pretty good being that it's uh done all by hand with one piece of wood But you know carpenter, you know if I was figure if he's good enough for JC it's good enough for me I mean that was like a nightmare for a dude to have to meet someone that's just that cool
[SPEAKER_01]: More or less the dad right the fiance's dad is like totally on board with x-boyfriend Yeah, yeah, that's it.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's ever witnessing this whole comparison thing and he's like great to mill nurse like right as he Right as he says everything, you know comparison Another very well done
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, dude.
[SPEAKER_00]: Classic.
[SPEAKER_01]: But Jonah Hills, I'll say this.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's quite sound crazy, but hear me out.
[SPEAKER_01]: Jonah Hill, which I think you're green.
[SPEAKER_01]: Jonah Hill is actually correct with his feeling and opinion.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that is a real question.
[SPEAKER_01]: Real feeling where
[SPEAKER_01]: And technically like kind of I don't know if you'd fuck these specific people.
[SPEAKER_01]: We don't know that because we don't know the training We don't know you know the sort of thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: We don't know that part of it, but the feeling they don't know if uh if Our net was of was a state champion rest on Iowa, which could be I'll tell you don't is gonna have a sensible kind of
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah, you get a big strong guy who's kind of down to fight like I was saying if you played sports or something, that's what it is.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like you know how to impose yourself regardless of skill on to someone and deal with some fatigue and just intercompetition or whatever you know how to deal with that.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, that's another added element in any kind of match.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, so you just don't know, that's the point.
[SPEAKER_01]: But what he was feeling right here is a hundred percent real.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah, one's a four strike white belt or even like a new blue belt to whatever.
[SPEAKER_01]: And now you're looking at all your other peers in your other industry.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's not known for being these hardcore guys But you're looking at him like bro, I would kill all you guys.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's literally how it feels and I would say for the most part not all the time But for the most part true.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and so I remember when I was a Yeah white belt like a four-stripe-ish we didn't do stripes, but you know I'd been in it for a while or whatever.
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe three quarters of the way to blue belt will say
[SPEAKER_01]: and oh yeah my brothers freaking my co-workers bro I was like bro let's yeah 100% oh yeah and we'll go at the drop of a dime looking for it exactly ready and down and hoping yeah hoping oh yeah so this feeling is 100% crap 100% crap
[SPEAKER_01]: But you're right, like when you have that new power, you know, it's kind of like when you have a new, I don't know anything, you got a new lawnmower, you're looking at everybody's lawn.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's why that's why like when when rogan or Eddie Bravo talks about like the the the nerd assassins, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: This happens because people that are that get into Gitu, but they weren't really into anything else before.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like when a dude's a wrestler and then he starts doing Jiu Jitsu like it's he doesn't get this influx Yeah, this overpressure of feeling like I can kick people last but if you were just a nerd and then all of a sudden you within three months
[SPEAKER_00]: you realize like within three months there's a new guy that comes in that was a wrestler that used to bully you around and now you put him in a triangle choke and he has to tap out like that's got to be it's got to be an insurgent of power oh yeah it's gonna you're end up saying some shit like I will fucking annihilate 100% right now and consider the the question right and Jason beat me and obviously if you know his personality and because I did see the video he didn't ask it like
[SPEAKER_01]: What up?
[SPEAKER_01]: You think you could take me because that's a typical question too, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: You say, Oh, I did you just think it was all you think you could take me?
[SPEAKER_01]: That's like confrontational.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that feeling, now hold on to that right there.
[SPEAKER_01]: So Jason made me and said, if we were to get into it, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Let me ask you something, if we were to get into it, that's kind of like, could you take me?
[SPEAKER_01]: But the way he asks was kind of like more out of curiosity, like, hey, like, where is this kind of stand as far as actual capability goes?
[SPEAKER_01]: I was kind of the question, but
[SPEAKER_01]: as that forestrike white belt from waiting for somebody to ask me that question and i'm gonna take it like hey like that's a challenge so i'm saying so that made him be more aggressive with his answer in my opinion where's like you think if mean you were to get into it that's like oh oh be what
[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know, again, I don't know, Jason Bateman will earn that in Sean Hayes personally.
[SPEAKER_00]: And maybe they are more engaged in the fight community than I think.
[SPEAKER_00]: But as we've said before, a lot of people, when you say, oh, I trained you, they just think you do karate, they just think karate.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they're like, oh, you can break some wood stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: And sometimes people are actually impressed by that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like Jason Bateman, again, I don't know him, but he might be like, oh, damn, so you can like break wood.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'd hate it if he punched me in the face.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep, yep.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so he's kind of like, wait, if we got into it, would you break my face?
[SPEAKER_00]: Because he's thinking you do a karate kick to my face now, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, what would happen?
[SPEAKER_01]: In fact, I would actually now that you kind of put it the other way, you're right.
[SPEAKER_01]: It, because that's kind of what it sounded like.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was more out of curiosity.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you do do do do do do do do do do do.
[SPEAKER_01]: But what is do you do do do do do?
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, so is it, are we fighting?
[SPEAKER_01]: Or is it tai chi?
[SPEAKER_01]: Or is it a copueta, you know, more of a dance scenario?
[SPEAKER_01]: That is fighting, you know?
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, what?
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the tone that I got from it, but like I said probably you're that forced right wet belt don't matter It's all the same it's all the same question like what up, you know kind of a thing So to me that's what me joining him and I get it pro fucking I'm with you I'm to be honest I kind of felt it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like bro fucking don't hit let them know you're saying not cuz I like Jason Payton, but I'm like hey, I felt that you know, no, no, no, you just like his personal fan You seem fan of Jason baby a hundred percent
[SPEAKER_01]: But um, but that feeling that Jonah Hill was feeling that it looked like he was feeling there and demonstrated was 100% real 100% accurate and I would venture to say that most of us in the jujitsu community have gone through this feeling or gone through this phase of feeling this
[SPEAKER_01]: The only part that I think may be sparked to the controversy is that he said it He's in who he is, a aggressively in public, like on a public forum He seems saying and you know, you get everyone else who's whether they've been to that phase or not It's kind of like, okay, that was kind of a challenge to us a little bit to me personally a little bit I was the, what was the, like what was the, the feeling from the Gigi to community
[SPEAKER_01]: I felt like it was kind of everywhere like some people were saying What I was saying was like yeah, brother.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's how you feel when you're for a certain way belt Or not not not not even just the digit what was the feeling from the world?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, we're people like what what's this guy?
[SPEAKER_00]: We think he's gonna take Jason Bateman.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no way Don't know how it so my algorithm is more due to people and not necessarily the Hollywood people as much
[SPEAKER_01]: But um, they used to people where some were like, oh, I'm challenging you in Jonah Hill.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a white belt.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a blue belt or whatever.
[SPEAKER_01]: I saw some of that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, brother, it's you're missing the point here, but I get it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I get that feeling to because let's face it, especially when you're blue belt.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think blue belt is kind of the
[SPEAKER_01]: Purple belt, that's when you start to hit that maturity, whatever, but late blue belt or early purple belt.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you hear that some celebrity does jujitsu, oh, I'm, you know, remember like, uh, who's like kind of the main ones?
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, there was, uh, Ashton Kutcher, uh, a Sean Patrick Flannery, like the the famous guys who do jujitsu, all of us were at the very least wondering, oh, bro, I think I think I could take them.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's just an actor kind of a thing, you know, like that's
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know anybody famous, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: You want to see, how is this famous guy's jujitsu stack up against Mike?
[SPEAKER_00]: Is it for real?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
[SPEAKER_00]: It was honestly bro.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't mean this in a bad way, but like my first trade with you.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think you're gonna be that good.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's cool.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'll take that as a compliment.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, and that's exactly the point, you know, it's because yeah, you're this you're a Navy SEAL, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Or you're a leadership guy, or author, or a XYZ, or whatever.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just insane.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then so you just kind of wonder I think I think that's natural is what I'm saying.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not necessarily saying that like we all have that very strong feeling.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just saying it's natural to think that or whatever.
[SPEAKER_01]: So there think I saw some of that reaction.
[SPEAKER_01]: I saw some, you know, obviously the some hate miracles.
[SPEAKER_01]: actor, whatever is due to police sucks or come down or whatever and I personally think that that's maybe just us forgetting that that's a real part of the due to journey.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and it's also forgetting that he's he's a dude.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's a person who's got the normal person things going on in the world.
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: So even remember Mark Zuckerberg was on, I don't know, maybe Theo von, he's on one of these podcasts where he was like, you know, I, it's like, what do you do as a hobby, whatever
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I do jujitsu, you know, some just it's just something about waking up and choking people, you know, but he said that, but it's like, oh, I noticed and for a problem with you, I noticed that's how you put it waking up and just choking people, perhaps not what jujitsu is for a freaking actually you choke people about
[SPEAKER_01]: 8 to 10% of the time on a good day.
[SPEAKER_01]: The rest you're fricking hoping you don't get chill getting chill getting You know, it's like there's a lot to it, but it's kind of like we what we put forward this super capable version of
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what's your hobby and you've got this new not only a hobby super power straight up super power And you get to say it and whatever and it's new and then someone Low key challenges it brother is what you're gonna get 100% of the time Does it right if I was on the stage in the opposite that's what we probably would have came out of me too I think
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I know right now.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll do it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm with you better like freaking more people doing Jiu Jitsu more people going through the experience It's a good one.
[SPEAKER_00]: Keep getting out.
[SPEAKER_00]: You don't want to tone it challenge Jonah Hill.
[SPEAKER_00]: Nope.
[SPEAKER_00]: Good to go.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll do keep training brother keep training everybody.
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