[SPEAKER_03]: Speak softly, love, and hold me warm against your heart.
[SPEAKER_03]: I hear your words, the tender trembling.
[SPEAKER_02]: Welcome everybody to Hollywood Godfather podcast.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm happy to say this is our first show for 2022.
[SPEAKER_02]: So welcome us all into the new decade.
[SPEAKER_02]: And hopefully we'll multiply us 10 times this time through the decade.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, what are we going to talk about tonight for our first show?
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, funny, you should ask.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's been numerous theories about what became of James Riddle Huffa.
[SPEAKER_01]: Those of you who don't know who he is.
[SPEAKER_01]: He was a labor union leader who rattish mysteriously,
[SPEAKER_01]: I believe in 1975, and it's become folklore to find out where this guy is.
[SPEAKER_01]: Every couple of years, people have new theories.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we consulted our bank of computers and our sources, and we came up with nine theories.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what happened to Jimmy Hoffman.
[SPEAKER_01]: He said, these are theories that have already been explored.
[SPEAKER_01]: These are not our theories.
[SPEAKER_01]: These are theories that the law enforcement community actually investigated.
[SPEAKER_02]: And if my memory serves me, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: It was July.
[SPEAKER_02]: July time.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I went to no computers.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know right where I was when I got them to call.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, well, we'll go through these these theories first and then, uh, oh, yeah, please.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, you have news, Johnny, that the perhaps people haven't heard about.
[SPEAKER_01]: I never did, but it's all me.
[SPEAKER_01]: But anyway, uh, this goes in chronological order.
[SPEAKER_01]: The first theory being that Jimmy Hoffman was killed on the orders of New Jersey crime,
[SPEAKER_01]: Anthony Tony Pro provisano and this comes from a hitman and a lot of these theories got from a hitman or swore that they killed them well provisano had the absolute connection with him so yeah yeah that was definitely a connection but the FBI investigated it and found it was the evidence to support the claim and of course the most infamous theory
[SPEAKER_01]: they even have the suction of the giant stadium and these relatives of New Jersey.
[SPEAKER_01]: And this came from another hitman named Frank Ocean, 1989, Playboy Magazine interview.
[SPEAKER_01]: So he told the world, that's where he is.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the FBI didn't find anything to support that theory.
[SPEAKER_01]: And when they demolished, this is what I didn't understand.
[SPEAKER_01]: When they demolished the stadium in 2010, they didn't even bother looking.
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't, it was coming down anyway.
[SPEAKER_01]: Take a gander man, baby, they guys live.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, no, it's, I have a theory because I've been following this just because I was, not directly mom, but I was always enamored by how many theories there were.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that our government supports all these diggings and theories and it goes on for weeks.
[SPEAKER_02]: They dig up people's yards.
[SPEAKER_01]: You have to entertain.
[SPEAKER_01]: any bit of information, particularly in a case this infamous.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, this is all we, then the guy that is so many years ago, he's still a news work.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and I'll always be until I find his body.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm kind of, what?
[SPEAKER_00]: Sorry, before you get into that.
[SPEAKER_00]: So people who aren't too familiar with law enforcement, obviously, you are.
[SPEAKER_00]: So a case like this for people to still be investigating all these years later is because it's considered a homicide and the statute of limitations never expired.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I have a side can only be closed by two means, one and a rest and two by unusual means.
[SPEAKER_01]: In other words, if they found out that this suspect who's been on the land for 40 years is now dead
[SPEAKER_01]: but they can't find the clothes that out that way, but they can be reopened, you know, but those are the only two ways.
[SPEAKER_01]: But this, this, this, this starts very, this is a good one.
[SPEAKER_01]: That Jimmy Hoffa was adopted by either federal, marshals or federal agents, driven to or nearby F1 and dropped out of a plane into one of the great lakes.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's why the federal agents, yeah, but yeah, yeah, but the cops are on it.
[SPEAKER_00]: So were they like supposed to be dirty cops or just that was there?
[SPEAKER_01]: That they were working over time.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't put this forth was a half an eight and another hitman, what a surprise.
[SPEAKER_02]: And how did they get it published even?
[SPEAKER_02]: It's guys who just came up with the theory.
[SPEAKER_01]: This was 1987 book.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, half his man.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he gives this this theory that he was, he was, he won for a swim.
[SPEAKER_01]: You dropped out of a plane.
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, the outcome of this was other than Franco's word.
[SPEAKER_01]: There was nothing to support his claim.
[SPEAKER_01]: and the Chicago Tribune in a review of the book, put it this way in a quoting as a former New York Times reporter Richard Hammer, who helped Frank go with the book, candidly writes in the introduction that the stories have the, and in quotes, ring of truth, maybe, but the also reek of something else.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you know, a reek of truth, or anything about half, it's gonna get published.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's the third theory.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we got a lot more to go here.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I'm getting down here.
[SPEAKER_01]: Number four was put forth by our friend Frank Sheeran who basically let you listen to him.
[SPEAKER_01]: He called everybody from Cockrobing to JFK.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I know.
[SPEAKER_01]: He says he killed them.
[SPEAKER_01]: And who put that forth?
[SPEAKER_01]: Frank Sheeran.
[SPEAKER_01]: uh... the outcome was uh... they ripped off the floorboards of a house and uh... bluefield township in Jersey in 2004 book included uh... that the blood found on those floorboards which thanks here and said was half was blood was not it's amazing how this guy got away with so much stuff and i remember dinner or what the book the rights to the book
[SPEAKER_02]: And you said, what do you think of this?
[SPEAKER_02]: The book was, I'm paying houses or something like that.
[SPEAKER_00]: How do you pay houses?
[SPEAKER_02]: What's that?
[SPEAKER_00]: I heard you paying houses.
[SPEAKER_00]: I heard you paying houses, or does that was like that?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's the cold word for it.
[SPEAKER_00]: The cold word exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: That, that, you kill somebody.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I mean, how did this guy get so far with all of this,
[SPEAKER_02]: basically bullshit.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I said the pork wasn't that successful and it would have died with him, but didn't he ever wrote the rights?
[SPEAKER_01]: So they kept it alive for all these years and the effect they made a movie.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure, I'm thinking, the Robert and Europe didn't expect it to take 17 years for this picture to get made.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I was around Bobby, not that early on, but the last five or six years I've been close to Bobby for other reasons.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's things just keeps coming up.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then when I heard they were making it,
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it was just like, well, the thing that I knew he was not involved in was the Kennedy assassination.
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't bother anything he talked about.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what?
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm saying personally because of what was going on at Cal Neaver, what happened and who the shooters were.
[SPEAKER_02]: had nothing to do with it.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, he had his, he knew he was going to be in prison in the rest of his life.
[SPEAKER_01]: They've become the open dismount about who we killed that was famous.
[SPEAKER_01]: The reporters came in, they interviewed him.
[SPEAKER_01]: He loved fact the YouTube videos of all talk about our next,
[SPEAKER_01]: guy in theory number five was the ice man called Glensky, he was like another, he was like another sheriff, he killed everybody.
[SPEAKER_01]: In fact, he killed people, that's Sharon killed.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if they were going to shoot it out on the side who actually pulled a trigger on these people, but who Glensky was a psychopathic hitman, he got the name of the ice man because he would put his victims in a freezer, put him in a
[SPEAKER_01]: But he said that he killed Hava, and it was a contract killing, and he received $40,000.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's amazing.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it was the outcome of it, the former chief of the organized crime investigations for the New Jersey Division of Criminal Justice said basically was all bullshit.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's the way they left it.
[SPEAKER_01]: They didn't even look into it because he, he was like Sharon, he killed everybody.
[SPEAKER_01]: If he wasn't listening to it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And both of these guys are doing all of this from prison cells.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm surprised, I'm surprised that even the FBI would even listen to the word, I would report it would want to go report on it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Once again, the name Hatha gets you your name in the paper, you know, if you say something involving Hatha or your news, we're getting down to the end here.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hatha is clear number six of nine.
[SPEAKER_01]: Huffin was killed as his body was very beneath a swimming pool, and they, they, they have to entouch him.
[SPEAKER_01]: And this was something that was said by again, Richard Powell used to live on the property, he was serving life in prison without the possibility of parole for 1982 homicide.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the outcome of that was they figured that the sky, Paul just wanted to hit himself talk, because every time he said something he was taken out of jail,
[SPEAKER_01]: and he was sent to you that the president of you so that was taken I thought maybe his wife wanted a new pool so they dig it up for them in the the federal government paper at okay this is break out of prison and uh... in 2011 there was a book published
[SPEAKER_01]: called the Weasel, a double-life in the mob.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the theory here is that Hoffa's killed very him, he needs a 73-story Renaissance center and downtown Detroit.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I started reading, as I said, it was just the site of the Renaissance hotel in Casino that our friend Gianni Rousseau owned.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, it wasn't.
[SPEAKER_02]: That was in Vegas.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't have Detroit.
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, he writes this book.
[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't.
[SPEAKER_01]: a self-described shelter and going for mob bosses, whatever that means.
[SPEAKER_01]: It broke this book, the Weasel, a double life in the mob.
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, the outcome of that was the building.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was a home to the general motors, stands, and the claims never take seriously, they never looked.
[SPEAKER_02]: But let me ask you a question.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was being in the literary business, and Megan know when this business, as well as we do,
[SPEAKER_02]: Who would give credence and even published this book?
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, all these liars so far.
[SPEAKER_01]: very, very small presses that actually print the books and they garage, they'll print anything.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, wow.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, well, we should have asked that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Whether it was published, maybe it was self-published.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because can you picture St. Martin's press and, oh yeah, we'll do that.
[SPEAKER_01]: St. Martin's press is off.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, that's what I'm saying.
[SPEAKER_02]: I only have one experience the book we did.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I knew, I mean, the bedding as you pointed out,
[SPEAKER_02]: So many times who are audience, that is a major problem because they take it apart.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: So what happens in it?
[SPEAKER_02]: Good.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe.
[SPEAKER_00]: Sorry.
[SPEAKER_00]: So what happens if, you know, there is a story that someone's trying to publish, but there are no references or no people who are still alive to attest to that.
[SPEAKER_00]: How does that work?
[SPEAKER_01]: If everybody in the book is dead and I mean everybody.
[SPEAKER_01]: uh, and the book is about someone famous in this case, Hafa, and with Sharon, he was dropping names of people he killed and naturally, they're all dead.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's no harm in the publishing it.
[SPEAKER_01]: The only thing that people can say was, it's all alive, but there's nobody around to sue you in a way.
[SPEAKER_00]: So then does the publisher really have a problem there?
[SPEAKER_01]: No, they don't get you can't sue with that first.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, but I'm just wondering if it's a reputable publishing house
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, six books are really about the guy, you know, with something called publishing on the man, which was invented around the late 1990s, you can call yourself a publisher and use a publishing on the man house, like Amazon Kindle, is publishing on the man.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you want to sell publishing on Amazon, people can order one book and I'll print it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Nothing's printed.
[SPEAKER_01]: You order a book they printed or you can order a thousand books and I'll print it, but you can call yourself a publisher and use their services.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, wow.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and these small publishers, that's what they're doing.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know personally of one, because themselves are a publisher, but it's using a publisher on fan service, because there's no money involved.
[SPEAKER_01]: You only pay for the books you buy.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's no set up.
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, getting down to the end of the number eight.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hoffa was buried in a makeshift grave beneath the concrete slab of a barn in Oakland Township about 25 miles north of Detroit.
[SPEAKER_01]: This was from a reputed mafia captain named Tony's early.
[SPEAKER_01]: Have you heard from Jenny?
[SPEAKER_02]: No.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: In the online, he'd probably something online called Hoffa, Pham, as he really was in prison for all the nice crime crimes when the Hoffa disappeared.
[SPEAKER_01]: but he claimed he wasn't formed by how the office were about after his release.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, come on.
[SPEAKER_01]: That is the FBI and the police in 2013 spent two days digging at the site, which no longer had a barn, or they found nothing.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that's amazing.
[SPEAKER_02]: How they just show up and do it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Once again political pressure somebody told you where half is very at least going to look I don't know what happened when I told you I stay What about a cadaver vloggy just walking around a minute and so smell anything don't bring in the bulls Oh, it's all those trucks Okay, now this last theory is ongoing now.
[SPEAKER_01]: This was in the papers about an all media
[SPEAKER_01]: that I saw many about a month ago, office body was delivered.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is the theory.
[SPEAKER_01]: Office body was delivered to a New Jersey landfill in 1975, placed in the steel drum and buried about 100 yards away at state property.
[SPEAKER_01]: that sits below an elevated highway.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now the interrupters were said, you remember when we had Mike Russell on the show back in the day, the undercover cop.
[SPEAKER_01]: He espoused this theory back when we had him on two years ago.
[SPEAKER_01]: He said, he's pretty sure that this is true because he was working undercover when all this went down.
[SPEAKER_01]: and he heard people talking about it.
[SPEAKER_01]: So he told us about it two years ago, but it's just coming to light now.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, who put this for?
[SPEAKER_01]: The guy by the name of the journalist named Dan Maldia, who was written extensively about the half of Saga as a result.
[SPEAKER_02]: Dan Maldia, are Dan Maldia famous right here?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_01]: Who was extensively about the half of Saga as a result of interviews with Frank Coppola,
[SPEAKER_01]: filled with where the body is buried.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now the outcome is still going on and I'll read this from the immediate.
[SPEAKER_01]: uh... the outcome is to be determined because it's still going on the FBI obtained a search warrant to do a site survey which had completed less month and is analyzing the data the agency hasn't said whether it moved or removed anything from the site so they still have to come out with the results thinking if he was buried i mean he's dust how they have they have seventy five it will have to analyze forty five years
[SPEAKER_02]: whatever you know.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the FBI, uh, for what I read will be coming out within the month about whether they found the half of DNA, or whatever else they needed hair, males, teeth, whatever, because they don't disintegrate.
[SPEAKER_00]: That would be so difficult.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, even if you find remnants of human remains, the, the testing that goes into that, how many different people it could be?
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, doesn't that really in any search?
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a family still around.
[SPEAKER_01]: and teeth and nails don't go anywhere.
[SPEAKER_01]: They don't disintegrate.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it should be easy, but I guess before the FBI opens their mouths and embarrasses themselves, they want to know for sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll ask you a question, just because I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just heard something that hair, nails and teeth don't disintegrate.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, not necessarily hair.
[SPEAKER_01]: But if I said hair on the spoke, nails and teeth.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's our second.
[SPEAKER_02]: Why wouldn't you teeth, I know that area they're talking about.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's so much oil and chemicals in that ground.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's why I guess they're taking the time.
[SPEAKER_01]: Who knows?
[SPEAKER_01]: The point is they haven't come up with a note.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is a theory like the rest of them.
[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't hold water.
[SPEAKER_01]: They haven't said that yet.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, but what I'm saying.
[SPEAKER_02]: OK, you're on to late find out about something definitive.
[SPEAKER_01]: You the yes or no.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, but the bottom line is if it's in a drum,
[SPEAKER_02]: 45 years, no matter what he's in, 45 years.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I mean, TNA, you know, going back to the algebra is simple case.
[SPEAKER_01]: They didn't have something called touch DNA back then.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, they have it now.
[SPEAKER_01]: And even the most mind new.
[SPEAKER_01]: amounts of DNA could be tested, and the FBI is not sophisticated crime land in- Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the point is, I'm intrigued because this was what they did this a month ago, and they haven't said anything yet, and they have to say something because the press is all over them.
[SPEAKER_01]: So this may be, you know, and let's say, for the sake of our argument, it is where he was buried.
[SPEAKER_01]: We had this information two years ago, and we released it to the public through my gross think about it.
[SPEAKER_02]: when we get more into the show, he definitely is not there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're trying, we just went through the theories.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, let's talk about, let's talk about what you heard and when.
[SPEAKER_00]: Pena's the picture of that time when you heard who it was from, if you can.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I can, and I will.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: And ironic, because Pat,
[SPEAKER_02]: was doing this guy's daughter's biography.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Teresa, the Elessia.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hello.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Pope, the Elessia, all her father, had a scrapyard on Staten Island.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that car was brought to him.
[SPEAKER_02]: And ironically, another good gentleman that was in your book, Tommy Ballotti, who grew to fame,
[SPEAKER_02]: In the Gambino family, we shot down in front of Sparks, he said the same thing, I heard from about 10 people that they moved the engine block, the axles, and they just crushed the car.
[SPEAKER_02]: And more street talk, there was about six to seven major mob guys in the syndicate that
[SPEAKER_02]: because of anybody that's seen one of those car crushing blocks come out I think that like two and a.m. feet by three or three point you know, not much larger than a good size Rubik's cube right, I mean, they're rushing down and not only that the friction heat there is no DNA left the compressed steel like that
[SPEAKER_02]: The paint is even off the car.
[SPEAKER_02]: Very slight traces.
[SPEAKER_01]: But what did this mob guys want the what did you for?
[SPEAKER_01]: What did he use?
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a paper weight and you want it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, the guy then I think hasn't made a coffee table out of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: He has a six foot piece of glass on it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he teases people who are in the know with him.
[SPEAKER_02]: So let's go downstairs and have a cigar with Hoffa.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Not that's to make a bad joke, but it's not a coffee table.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a half of the tape.
[SPEAKER_02]: Ha ha ha.
[SPEAKER_02]: There you go.
[SPEAKER_00]: Good one.
[SPEAKER_01]: How do you why?
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no, why?
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's no, but I'm just saying the only reason and I have no reason even say why don't wear it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I couldn't tell you anyway, but that theory was around forever and ever and
[SPEAKER_02]: were known and were respected to handle stuff like that for people.
[SPEAKER_01]: I actually spoke to Pope, Pope was to Reese's uncle.
[SPEAKER_01]: His Pope was to Reese's father's brother.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, I spoke to Pope when I was writing the book.
[SPEAKER_01]: He had a people about 90 sharp as a tack.
[SPEAKER_01]: But he was the brother, if you're going to do something like this, he's the brother that you'd go to, because he wasn't really, he didn't really involve himself a day-to-day business.
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
[SPEAKER_01]: So if you wanted to stay below the radar, he wouldn't go to Terry's father, who was the boss.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: You'd go to Polk who really was took a, yeah, he was on the sidelines.
[SPEAKER_02]: Polk had a major contract.
[SPEAKER_02]: just get to my yard and they I think if my memory shows me right it was a bioc Burgundy and there was one of the guy in the car with him.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Why isn't this a theory that is out there?
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
[SPEAKER_01]: that's involved with something federal, but these guys are not going anywhere, but speaking among themselves.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it sounds plausible.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I mean, and again, I have nothing to do with the want to know who's ever listening, I do not know, but I've heard this story since that's why I remember your life, I mean,
[SPEAKER_02]: I was playing Albert Anastasia, so this was a big conversation when we were making lefty.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that whole life was going on, theatrically in my life, plus I'm still around Tommy, Tommy, and that all family were very close to me until they all died.
[SPEAKER_02]: In fact, I sent his brother Jimmy home from Vegas in a body bag.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because he called me, and Jimmy, he used to call him the spider.
[SPEAKER_02]: But the formality brothers would know what it meant, Max, mess with.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, the older brother, Maddie, I mean, he was probably one of the toughest people in the world.
[SPEAKER_02]: They all were known for their brun.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they would kill, I mean, they would punch you to death.
[SPEAKER_02]: They were known for it.
[SPEAKER_02]: There were tough, and Joey just died.
[SPEAKER_02]: Joey was the last brother that died.
[SPEAKER_02]: He died last year.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he was a marksman.
[SPEAKER_02]: And if anybody heard the story even in my book, I tried to hire Joey because he was such a marksman to shoot me on the sidewalk of the premiere of the Godfather.
[SPEAKER_01]: And for the thing that we didn't read the book, I'll probably ask you the question.
[SPEAKER_01]: Why?
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, for the people who want it, because I felt here I am an unknown.
[SPEAKER_02]: The movie had such, you know, recognition, the book rather.
[SPEAKER_02]: And if I'm going to the world premiere at Paramount Pictures on, you know, they had bleach, they closed down Broadway, that's how big this was.
[SPEAKER_02]: and so was bird-griffing, televised in a live.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I felt no and Tommy was such a great shot.
[SPEAKER_02]: I had meetings with him, and he kept telling me, Johnny, I can't guarantee you, I'm not going to care you.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he said, I got to see the weather forecast that day.
[SPEAKER_02]: The slightest wind could change that direction, and I'd bullet.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I got to tell him, why did you do this?
[SPEAKER_01]: Why did you do this?
[SPEAKER_02]: Because I was 25 as old and sane.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I felt, if I get out of the car and they say, ladies and gentlemen, first time seen Gianni Russo who played Callow in the Godfather.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I get shot on national television.
[SPEAKER_02]: I would be on every headline throughout the world and I'd become a story immediately.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a great reason, and if you want even better publicity, have a shoot you'd be 20 eyes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no, no.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I'll tell you how serious I was.
[SPEAKER_02]: A guy called Dr. Theodore Jacobs from Vegas, I brought him as my date.
[SPEAKER_02]: He was in the car, and to prove that this was going on, his two children became doctors in Las Vegas.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they know the story because I took them to Italy and they always tell them the stories that you are, not you, my, because, but it's fun, a lot because you got to go to the world premiere of the Godfather.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just wanted to be in the car, but then the last minute, Joey said, I can't do it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to kill you with those, a slight breeze.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, you know Trump, you know Trump, a, a, a drop of rain hits the bullet.
[SPEAKER_02]: But he talked me out of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was in New York already.
[SPEAKER_02]: I flew in and he came from Staten Island.
[SPEAKER_02]: And we'll tell you right where we were.
[SPEAKER_02]: We were at the Warwick Hotel.
[SPEAKER_02]: Three blocks away from where Paramount did it was.
[SPEAKER_02]: And...
[SPEAKER_02]: He already scouted out a roof, got a clear shot and all that, and he said, can't do it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't do it.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is like, you're nuts.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, no, I mean, but I mean, that probably would have been my most insane bit of a skit.
[SPEAKER_01]: Can you imagine if he missed and he had more than Brando?
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, no, no, he wasn't near me.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because when you get out of the car, you walk the red carpet by yourself.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not a group, you know, we're not all standing together.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's gonna pin out me.
[SPEAKER_02]: But we had a clear shot of me.
[SPEAKER_02]: There would be no problem.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there was just gonna be a flush wound, like arm leg.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's what I mean.
[SPEAKER_02]: He was supposed to shoot me, you know, my arm or a leg.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's about how?
[SPEAKER_02]: There's no, and then when he scoped it out and then got the weather report, which I thought was funny, he's getting the weather report.
[SPEAKER_02]: But that was it, but I thought it would, I mean, well, well, we'll never know, but I think I would have been headline news everywhere.
[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, being taken away in an ambulance, my first movie, you know, but that didn't happen.
[SPEAKER_02]: Or in all these theories of the half of us, and let get back to why I'm thinking of this, everybody was talking about on the hush hush that Pope D. got rid of Hoffa.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, if I would have known this theory back then, I would have pressed Theresa.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, she would have told you.
[SPEAKER_02]: She would have told you.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Probably we would have got the books all too.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I, I, I sold a book, but she got this nothing.
[SPEAKER_01]: She got all, all time, it's a console around book.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, wow.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, man.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, you know, they don't just do in the research.
[SPEAKER_02]: She was going, I would Tommy Errant talking about another maniac.
[SPEAKER_01]: He was a book starts.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, he was, the guy we're talking about Tommy Errant's Theresa's boyfriend.
[SPEAKER_02]: We were all in, in Brooklyn, just to show you the mentality of this guy.
[SPEAKER_02]: We were all in Brooklyn at a dance.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think Saint Fortgenatus or Regina Padres, all these schools had these Latin dances.
[SPEAKER_02]: And we used to take the 69th Street ferry from Staten Island and go.
[SPEAKER_02]: So now there's one night, we get delayed and they stop the ferry at midnight.
[SPEAKER_02]: And there we are with three colors of guys.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they notice, Tommy Ernst notices there's a ferry still running over there.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's let's take the ferry.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what he means to eat, it's not running.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's throwing me, let's take it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's leave our cars here, because you don't, you can't drop them.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, he can drive the cars on.
[SPEAKER_02]: He literally, I mean, we could look it up.
[SPEAKER_02]: He literally stole the ferry, took it to South Beach, not to say George the pull-in, so the cops could come again.
[SPEAKER_02]: And we all drove off the ferry in South Beach.
[SPEAKER_01]: He was a maniac, anyway, that's what got him killed.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, Tommy, Tommy killed him.
[SPEAKER_02]: Tommy Pilates, killed him, he killed him.
[SPEAKER_02]: They were most in love with the same girl.
[SPEAKER_02]: Talk about maniacs.
[SPEAKER_02]: We got to do a show on the below.
[SPEAKER_01]: We see people are showing the Pilates.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, they're in the talk about, and he's world famous because he got shot with Paul Costalano in front of Spock's.
[SPEAKER_02]: By none other than our friend John Gotti.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, then, and these guys were really tough guys.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think so.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so basically out of the nine theories we've presented, you believe that there is a tent or what is actually what happens.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think that could be interesting.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I like to get a hold of that table.
[SPEAKER_02]: A lot of people would.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sure the idea would too.
[SPEAKER_02]: But nobody does no DNA in it.
[SPEAKER_02]: any scientist can tell you to crush a car.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, if you just took a, which we all have done, well, a month and a month, maybe everybody, but we used to make zip guns out of car antennas.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we have to break the car antennas and then you have to keep flexing it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It would get hot just doing that to snap that, imagine a car?
[SPEAKER_01]: But you know, but still getting a hold of that cue would be major news.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't care if they found anything.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I know, but.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they're going to be news unless you can prove the guy was in there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: So.
[SPEAKER_02]: This was a great show.
[SPEAKER_02]: I like this show.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, I'm going to go to the old side of giant stadium with a shovel.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to start digging.
[SPEAKER_02]: There you go.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, you said they didn't even look.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, they didn't look.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I want to be the first.
[SPEAKER_02]: But to say, now that's what I'm saying.
[SPEAKER_02]: Why didn't they look to when they told he was going to be there?
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the frickin' mystery because they were getting he was being knocked down for them.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they didn't have to do any work.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I remember that.
[SPEAKER_02]: They always used to say he was at the giant stadium other than the giant stadium.
[SPEAKER_02]: That was a room for a long time.
[SPEAKER_01]: He was a cornerstone of the structure.
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, that was a good first show for the first show to you.
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe maybe hopper someone listening to it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Jimmy, if you're right there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe, imagine we get a call saying, hey, I'm here.
[SPEAKER_01]: Awesome.
[SPEAKER_01]: Send us an email.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's all your questions.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to make some money come back for the mail bag, our first mail bag for the new year.
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll be right back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, let's hear right into it.
[SPEAKER_00]: And on brand for our first episode of The New Year, the first question is from Linda.
[SPEAKER_00]: Seeing as the New Year is quickly approaching, do you all have any resolutions or things you're looking forward to in the coming year?
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I've resolved to start working on my second million.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the first million is too hard to make.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's on a skip over that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to write the second one.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're the kind of guy that has 10 lows to bread on the Resolminies once another one there you go.
[SPEAKER_02]: You didn't make a me that come on.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Perfect.
[SPEAKER_01]: How about you?
[SPEAKER_02]: My resolution and this is so insane and I really think I can achieve it.
[SPEAKER_02]: In the next two years, I'm going to win a
[SPEAKER_01]: in the next 24 months, you heard it here first folks, that's right, man, I spoken and I need you know, Pat, we have a good shot in doing it, we got a good part of that Grammy, that's the show, uh, making what's yours.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hmm, well, I mean, I don't mean to be morbid.
[SPEAKER_00]: Those were all great things.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I had a loss in my family this past year.
[SPEAKER_00]: That was very sudden and very close.
[SPEAKER_00]: So probably my resolution would be to keep in close or contact with my family members.
[SPEAKER_00]: Not even just my immediate family.
[SPEAKER_00]: But, no, I'm talking about the introduction to that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm immediate family.
[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, my grandmother, she is 91, and she lives with my parents at home with me when I was growing up there.
[SPEAKER_00]: Just to call her more often and other family members because you never know.
[SPEAKER_02]: Everybody hated the world.
[SPEAKER_02]: She'd take that advice from you.
[SPEAKER_01]: You don't waste any time telling people that you love them because one day.
[SPEAKER_02]: You never see it to amaze me.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I say, well, thank you.
[SPEAKER_02]: You couldn't have been very selfish and said, what you wanted?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I'm selfish.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm working on my second million.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're going in the Grammy and you're making sense.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you know, there's still other things.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, but that's, that's what you are.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's fabulous.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think, yeah, I'm already, so no, is that already about you?
[SPEAKER_02]: But they just keep solidifying who you really are.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's, I mean, your parents have showed up.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's everything that's gotten me to where I am is all family.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I'm saying that you have to be so proud your mother and father.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm happy to know them too.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, because you're brother and your sister are really amazing children.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, thank you very much.
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, that's it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'd say those are all great things for the new year.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, let me get back in here real quick.
[SPEAKER_00]: Next one is from Lenny.
[SPEAKER_00]: Lenny says, Johnny, did you ever know Jane Mansfield?
[SPEAKER_00]: If so, what was she like?
[SPEAKER_00]: So tragic, what happened to me?
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my God, you know.
[SPEAKER_02]: I met Jane Mansfield just before she got killed.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I was doing a project with, what was his name?
[SPEAKER_02]: I think I just first named him and I was less named.
[SPEAKER_02]: But she was married to him, and then Mickey Haggity married her, obviously, and Matt Simba, wow, talk about a name, Matt Simba, and I were doing a film, I hired him to direct, and he did, just did a film that I saw that I really, really liked, and it was,
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, where's the name out of the cast?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and her husband, who she married, Moishlin, Rickless, one of the richest men in the world, 100 be a movie star.
[SPEAKER_02]: She was like five foot four.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I'm talented person.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have a bad life.
[SPEAKER_01]: And she didn't really have a whole load of talent, but there was a joke going around at the time.
[SPEAKER_01]: Her husband was so rich, she shouldn't bite.
[SPEAKER_01]: every hollywood star to a big party except for his wife she wouldn't be invited and he blow the friggin building up.
[SPEAKER_01]: And as the old ways you get a part of the picture there's nobody left the higher.
[SPEAKER_01]: What became a party now?
[SPEAKER_02]: I think she's still around I mean Matt Simbers I don't know where we we we actually bought a book from Mario Pooze or I still
[SPEAKER_02]: And it was about the last four days of the Second World War great story.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the sky goes back to avenge his wife's death, because they were tortured by the Germans.
[SPEAKER_02]: And she was with child at the time.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he heard her dying, but it wasn't her.
[SPEAKER_02]: They wanted him to confess.
[SPEAKER_02]: And when they, when,
[SPEAKER_02]: the American soldiers invaded, they found him alive on a body, pile of bodies, and he came back and rehabilitated and came back to Germany to find these guys, seven people, seven graves for Rogan, and he was Rogan.
[SPEAKER_01]: She now what I thought she was going to say is when they had, they found him on a file of bodies.
[SPEAKER_01]: That piece of door was one of them because that's the closest she'd ever get.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I was went and lies them and now they have to accomplish in a cabaret in Munich, and we talked to the people that all the production people over there about film, and I said, we have a film we want to do here in this, come, come to your office, and they were so enamored with the story, and they were just doing the subway, we were doing the subway, it would be perfect, look like the war, that was all blowing up.
[SPEAKER_02]: I said, but the only thing we need, we need to hand 50 foot swatstickers of the water after the water.
[SPEAKER_02]: They escorted us to the airport.
[SPEAKER_02]: That can only match.
[SPEAKER_02]: They didn't even let us pack.
[SPEAKER_02]: They sent our lit, our luggage to us to France.
[SPEAKER_00]: My gosh.
[SPEAKER_00]: Crazy.
[SPEAKER_00]: That is too funny.
[SPEAKER_02]: Matt Samba.
[SPEAKER_02]: moving right along.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, there you have it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Next is from Joseph.
[SPEAKER_00]: Gianni, what is your favorite Christmas song?
[SPEAKER_00]: Would you ever consider doing a Christmas album?
[SPEAKER_02]: Didn't they hear our show a couple of weeks ago?
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe not long ago.
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe they have to catch up.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I did a song that I really liked.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'd like to do it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, this is wiggle back.
[SPEAKER_02]: In fact, I was reminded that the day Billy Porter, who produced and he passed on, but that was Elvis's orchestra.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's available, if you listen to the podcast, you can buy it from us, a time for giving, and it was Elvis's orchestra, and then the other album was Reflections, and that was all
[SPEAKER_02]: The music is phenomenal.
[SPEAKER_00]: How about something that's considered like a classic, a classic Christmas song?
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I mean, I always like singing.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm dreaming of a white Christmas.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just liked that song.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was so... A lot of singing.
[SPEAKER_02]: A lot of singing.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's my Christmas song.
[SPEAKER_02]: I would say, by other artists, many other artists did it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's a good one too.
[SPEAKER_00]: Alright next is from Rita.
[SPEAKER_00]: Rita says this may be a bit too personal, but who would each of you say you are closest to in life?
[SPEAKER_00]: Who is the person or people you first go to when something happens?
[SPEAKER_00]: Good or bad?
[SPEAKER_01]: I see that's tough because I don't, it's probably sweet for Gianni too with all backgrounds.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, oh, oh, oh, I meant to have gone, man.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that a lot of them are gone.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't have
[SPEAKER_02]: It's time, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I find, I find, and I still do more, so recently, even, I've been going every day, I sit in P1O2 in the same Patrick's Cathedral, and it's opposite the shrine of Saint Anthony.
[SPEAKER_02]: that when I got out of the hospital, a lot of nights I spent in that place when it was cold, that's when the churches were open 24 hours a day.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I find going there and talking to the saint, it clears my head, and spiritually shows me away out of things.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the good news about that too, I don't really have a lot of problems anymore in my life.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a good thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're like, if something were to happen, some exciting news were to happen right now, who would be the first person you would tell?
[SPEAKER_00]: Both of you guys.
[SPEAKER_01]: I got my wife to tell them naturally.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I also don't tell her stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'm a private investigator, and sometimes I don't have very many pleasant jobs.
[SPEAKER_01]: I never, I mean, we've been together for 31 years.
[SPEAKER_01]: I never told her one thing about my military service.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the certain things that you, you can't talk to people about because they wouldn't understand.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's, that's, that's the other version.
[SPEAKER_00]: I agree with that, definitely.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, you, obviously, you have, you're surrounded by loved ones, you're blessed.
[SPEAKER_02]: You got your mother.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm lucky that my immediate family, my siblings, my parents, the five of us are very, very close.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then my boyfriend, Jacob and my best friend Rachel, probably be all the ones I would go to.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I have nobody here in court and I'm happy to say that.
[SPEAKER_02]: None of my kids, none of them.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're more confused than I am.
[SPEAKER_02]: They couldn't.
[SPEAKER_02]: They couldn't be on or put me on the right path.
[SPEAKER_02]: If they had a white line on it and a direction sign.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was told that a very young age, you can never get into trouble or keeping your mouth shut, and I'm a big advocate of that.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't, unless it's a parrot if I tell somebody something, I don't tell anybody.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's why I lived in that room.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I can imagine.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, man.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Still do.
[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, that's all right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Moving on.
[SPEAKER_00]: Next is from Kevin.
[SPEAKER_00]: Kevin says, Johnny, what does a traditional Christmas look like now in the life of Gianni Rousseau?
[SPEAKER_02]: It's so without I have no children fortunately around me and I only the only thing I put up and I just did, I put up a manger because I never forgot what Christmas is about.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's about the Christ's birth, not the guy in the red suit and how many gifts I'm getting.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't want any gifts, I never give any gifts, I, you know, people need something
[SPEAKER_02]: During the year I do it, I don't use this as a symbol of giving gifts and I mean it's I'm very spiritual about really about what this is about and not the whole who plough of marketing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Next is from Alejandro.
[SPEAKER_00]: Gianni, do you know Andrew and Dimash Russo, any
[SPEAKER_02]: He's not a relationship, I know I respect him.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know what he's done.
[SPEAKER_02]: We spoke about the people he was around.
[SPEAKER_02]: And many times, nice guy.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know him well.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've been in this company several times.
[SPEAKER_02]: A lot of my friends are very close to him.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I don't know him.
[SPEAKER_02]: But he's doing well.
[SPEAKER_02]: My understanding just came out.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't.
[SPEAKER_00]: got it.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, next one, I'll come back to the Christmas trend.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is from Alberta.
[SPEAKER_00]: Gianni Patrick and Megan love the show so much.
[SPEAKER_00]: Have you guys?
[SPEAKER_00]: I hope you guys are having a wonderful holiday season.
[SPEAKER_00]: What is each of your favorite Christmas movie?
[SPEAKER_01]: I will say to Godfather.
[SPEAKER_00]: I guess I guess you could could love it.
[SPEAKER_01]: There is a Christmas scene in there, when Michael and his girlfriend are coming.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my god, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: the the the the most famous Christmas movie where they know what's the name of that the miracle one was I got thirty first thing is that the one with James Stewart no which one it's a wonderful life a wonderful life I did a movie with Jack with Jack listen to me with um oh my god Nicholas Cage
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a movie about Christmas, believe it or not, and how he wakes up thinking he was on top of the world and he finds himself in his first or back life.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm one of his neighbors in it.
[SPEAKER_02]: A great movie, family man.
[SPEAKER_02]: and it was Nicolas Cage, T.O.A.
[SPEAKER_02]: Leoni, and a lot of nice people.
[SPEAKER_02]: In fact, a young genius who I miss him, because he was, I know him while his life, Brett Ratner directed it.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I recommend that to just to bring you back to reality and not think he has a false superior in rich and all that.
[SPEAKER_02]: This brings you back to the true values.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mine is a Christmas story.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, are you familiar with it?
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's, I mean, I watched that every year.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's those of you who don't know what it's about.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, what's the pressure, isn't it?
[SPEAKER_01]: No, not at all.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a comedy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, comedy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's comedy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I didn't know that.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's about a kid, basically.
[SPEAKER_01]: He wants a BB gun for Christmas.
[SPEAKER_01]: His father's played by Darren McGovern, who I think was the early underrated actor.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's about a small,
[SPEAKER_01]: family in a small town.
[SPEAKER_01]: In fact, the house, well, they shot that as a museum now because of that picture.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, wow.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's a great picture.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's told from the, from the kids' point of view, the kid's name, the act that was Sherman Billings Lee, I believe, was his name.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how I remember this stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know where I parked my car.
[SPEAKER_01]: But anyway, it's a, I think it's, it's a great movie.
[SPEAKER_01]: I got to kick out of it every year.
[SPEAKER_01]: It starts
[SPEAKER_01]: It's, in fact, though, the channel, the station that was TNT, plays it for an entire week, 24, 7.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, wow.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, my God.
[SPEAKER_01]: Friday Christmas, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a good chance.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're probably good.
[SPEAKER_00]: Good.
[SPEAKER_01]: Not.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was saying you probably thought he was talking about a Christmas carol when you said, don't you have a story?
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't have a story.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've seen it.
[SPEAKER_01]: uh... uh... the right is the name was changed shepherd uh... it was a uh... he had he had a radio show one of the one of the first talk shows all by himself he talked to himself for about an hour he just no script that was nothing then there are recordings that have you probably find them on the youtube they're on the internet where he didn't he he never had a plan script he never had anything planned he just sit down
[SPEAKER_01]: and he talked for an hour.
[SPEAKER_01]: This show went for years.
[SPEAKER_01]: They've had a guest.
[SPEAKER_01]: They've had commercials.
[SPEAKER_01]: He just talked.
[SPEAKER_02]: What?
[SPEAKER_01]: Nice to listen to this guy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Some reason when I was a kid, I was captivated by this guy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, he wrote that.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it was based on his life.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was based on him and his parents.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is just a very heartwarming movie.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I recommend.
[SPEAKER_01]: What's your favorite thing?
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's a wonderful life, Jimmy Stewart.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, wow.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's good.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, Pat, and just, if you want to know your car is in your driveway.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, thank you so much.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to ask you something with us.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, thank you so much.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'd like to pet you for a lot.
[SPEAKER_02]: OK. All right.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that is all we have for tonight.
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