[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to Marvel Vision, a podcast about Marvel, the MCU, and right now, D23 Expo, I'm Alex.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm Pete.
[SPEAKER_01]: And last night as we are taping Disney night.
[SPEAKER_02]: Ah, what a night where you are pretty late.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, man.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was eating my popcorn.
[SPEAKER_02]: getting dressed in all my Disney clothes.
[SPEAKER_01]: You like to dress as like sexy Olaf, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Like that should go to you, I believe.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, let's just roll now.
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like the sex appeal is already there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, you don't have to do much.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, I'll bet a little turquish that rolls, come on.
[SPEAKER_01]: also RIP Josh Gads since Wonderman's is not coming back for season two.
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess he's could be lost in the dark dimension forever, but we're getting a little far field because last night Disney Entertainment did its big two hour long presentation on the West Coast as part of the D23 expo.
[SPEAKER_01]: So there's lots of news coming out about Pixar stuff, about Disney Pictures stuff, there was some Star Wars stuff that came out as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: But hey, there's a Marvel podcast we only care about Marvel things and there was some several big things that came out last night.
[SPEAKER_01]: Pete, just to set the stage, I've looked through all of this stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're coming in fresh like a newborn babe, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't know anything.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I like how you're like we only care about marvellous stuff sets the guy in the Pixar hat.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, that's true.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was looking for some I had to get more marvellous hats like I have what I have a TV a hat that doesn't fit me like it would just sort of so that doesn't seem like a viable option.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not so double counted as I had that I have the Simpsons the good, the bad and the Loki, which was that we were across everything they did and I'm like I'm
[SPEAKER_01]: It can't be a perfect cat to work for this.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh boy, I really messed up, man.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is what everybody's doing for, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: It is all your actions to my hats.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, what we're going to do here is we got three things, I'm hesitant to even say what they are.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just want to like your pure Pete reaction to this stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I will tease that we got two trailers as Marvel's part of the presentation, and then we also got some casting news.
[SPEAKER_01]: So what do we start off?
[SPEAKER_01]: with the trailers.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's go in the order that they were.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm going to play them for you.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've watched the stuff a couple of times now.
[SPEAKER_01]: Pete, this is your first time fresh.
[SPEAKER_01]: You don't even know what's coming, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly, too.
[SPEAKER_02]: But let me ask you something.
[SPEAKER_02]: When you say you've watched these a couple of times, like, is the first time you're like naked, and then the second time you just
[SPEAKER_02]: treats like a candy and then the third time just with the lights off like I'll give me the three you know, it's surprising to me that you think I'm not naked when I'm eating Get it.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's my big take Horrible image sorry for our listeners By the way, come by by house on Halloween everybody.
[SPEAKER_01]: I got some great treats for you.
[SPEAKER_02]: It seems like a nightmare It seems okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're definitely off on the ride for it here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna bring up
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, our first trailer here, all right, and you don't, again, you don't know what it is.
[SPEAKER_01]: You have no idea, um, um, okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm doing this really nicely in some of it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Here we go.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's... Before you start working here, I remember when you'd come in all the time and that very kid.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was a different person back then.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, shit.
[SPEAKER_00]: How about now?
[SPEAKER_00]: Anyone waiting for you the night?
[SPEAKER_03]: almost
[SPEAKER_03]: But I'm not a hero anymore, I've just faced but not as far as you.
[SPEAKER_02]: All I have is his name.
[SPEAKER_02]: What kind of situation?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, this is your full podcast, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: This house is getting going out in the middle.
[SPEAKER_03]: All strong.
[SPEAKER_03]: Human avatar is only.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I cannot overstate the danger.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: But he is a... James Bader's back, baby.
[SPEAKER_03]: Papa?
[SPEAKER_03]: What a beard.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was like my coldness in there, you jealous.
[SPEAKER_03]: Family wasn't real.
[SPEAKER_03]: You sure about that?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I had a father.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm a sheenie.
[SPEAKER_03]: Cold vision.
[SPEAKER_01]: Muzzle tough.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a boy.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll try and make sure you understand my son, myself.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's great.
[SPEAKER_01]: How do you feel about that?
[SPEAKER_03]: On.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're starting to stand one-hups.
[SPEAKER_04]: With a genocidal maniac inside your head.
[SPEAKER_03]: The original bonds of family together are quite like mortal jeopardy.
[SPEAKER_03]: You could tell they're good actors.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: There we go.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's Wanda.
[SPEAKER_01]: Not even a little Wanda.
[SPEAKER_01]: Not even a tidy little Wanda in the middle there.
[SPEAKER_01]: You just have to be and don't be you.
[SPEAKER_01]: I probably should have said at the beginning.
[SPEAKER_01]: So people listening to the podcast could actually queue up the trailer at the beginning and watch a log with us and are just silent, shocked reactions to that.
[SPEAKER_01]: But that is trailer for vision questions coming out October 14th on DISD plus I don't know exactly how many episodes I believe six episodes similar to Or maybe any episode should have checked this beforehand But yeah, it is a stacked cast in case you couldn't tell from the trailer Vision is white vision following up on we last saw him at the end of one division he flies off or catching up with him here
[SPEAKER_01]: And inside of his head are all the AI as we've seen over the course of the MCU depicted by their human counterparts, including James Spader as Ultron.
[SPEAKER_01]: Raw reaction Pete, again, I've watched this couple of times, so I've had more time to process how you're feeling.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I feel a little bit of mixed emotions, because to me, what was great about Wanda and Vision was them, this is just vision.
[SPEAKER_02]: We did get just mainly a kind of Wanda one before, but he was a part of it in this kind of fake family.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, Ludus pointed we didn't get any more Wanda, but James Spader is fun maniac, he's a fun bad guy.
[SPEAKER_02]: the beards insane so that looks like it could be enjoyable uh... that it seems like they're kind of banters enjoyable but uh... i'm also a little worried because it's like there was that one scene was like dad this is all in your head type of thing and i was like ooh
[SPEAKER_01]: That would suck if the reveal was he's just like in the corner of a room somewhere and well so I believe the plot based on the synopsis that they sent off and I don't have it to hand right now is yes there's the stuff that's taking place inside visions head but as soon as he becomes aware of Tommy picking up on the cliffhanger of Agatha all along he goes to rescue him from I believe Paladin who's being played by
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my gosh, I'm like, you got his day, but he is a mainstay in Terry Madellis's shows.
[SPEAKER_01]: He played a captain and Star Trek Picard and other things.
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, so Paladin is chasing down potentially vision, potentially Tommy as well, and they reconnect and call on the run.
[SPEAKER_01]: Meanwhile, all the stuff is going on inside of his head, an ultra-out is potentially tried to take control.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's the rough outline of the thing, it is interesting to be that they're selling this as the end of a wand of vision trilogy because the end isn't a fun way to sell it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, this is the final, oh, it's like, well, that's sad.
[SPEAKER_02]: People respond to that.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, even if this does well, we'll never make this again.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's like, well, my God, I won't do that.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're probably not.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that gets into a bigger discussion about where live action Marvel TV is going and the answer is probably,
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, it's like this is it, but this is going to be no more this feels to me like the end of this What they have been doing with Marvel TV like whatever it is next whatever the future of live action Marvel TV is without getting too negative about it
[SPEAKER_01]: It started with WandaVision and they're ending it with this as these more of a movie on TV with the movie stars type things And that's cool because WandaVision was great.
[SPEAKER_01]: Agatha all along was great Yep, this is a different production team like I said it's Terry Madales who worked on 12 monkeys Which is incredible one of my favorite shows all time
[SPEAKER_01]: as well as Star Trek Picard.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was mixed on the third season, but there were still some big choices that I do think you could see very big visual similarities here.
[SPEAKER_01]: Paul is great, so that's exactly Paul Patney is great.
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, things like vision floating in a red room is something that he's used both in 12 bucks is ad Picard, so you can see a lot of those flares there.
[SPEAKER_01]: But man, I love the look of it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, there's stuff that I was picking out.
[SPEAKER_01]: It seems kind of It flits by McGreet the surrealist painter.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you the picture of the guy with the bowl or hat with the apple in front of his face.
[SPEAKER_01]: That looks a lot like that shot of vision when he's first stepping into his house and the trailer.
[SPEAKER_01]: But the thing that you highlighted the thing that got me most thrilled is James Spader and Paul Bettney.
[SPEAKER_01]: I really think, and I feel like this is controversial for some reason, but Ultron was an awesome villain at Age of Ultron.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like whatever you think about the movie, I loved Ultron there, and I was really bugged with a kill-to-off Ultron at the end.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the idea of Ultron through James Spader, potentially coming back and fighting his way to take over Revision's mind, is really cool to me.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm so sure, I hope for the season, is that Ultron wins and takes over Revision.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, but Ultron is this villain for the comics so you can never get rid of, like never ever.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the one of my biggest problems with the MCU is the killing of villains constantly had that not actually bring the back, like Loki is the rare exception.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Ultron is a villain who like, yeah, you try to wipe him out, but there's always a little piece of code that survives.
[SPEAKER_01]: So to pick up on that thread,
[SPEAKER_01]: and have vision, I'm sure, fight back against him at the end and get to be with his son and then head into doomsday or secret wars or whatever.
[SPEAKER_01]: Cool, but I'm excited to see that battle for control.
[SPEAKER_01]: James Bader got the biggest laughs out of me in that trailer.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's great.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just wondering if he's acting or if it's mainly the beard, because, oh, yeah, or does he have to come in directly?
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that's a tone tone beard.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's really impressive.
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you think he's Santa Claus?
[SPEAKER_01]: Is he Santa Claus in the trailer?
[SPEAKER_02]: No, you can tell because of the two tones.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there's a needle there.
[SPEAKER_01]: OK.
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, I think that looks great.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm very hyped and excited.
[SPEAKER_01]: nervously excited for it.
[SPEAKER_01]: nervously excited.
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't like the wording in the trailer.
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't like the kind of like,
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, this is the same, yeah, so that made me sad, but it's not that.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's the same thing as calling it a vendor's endgame.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like you have to see this because it all ends here.
[SPEAKER_01]: They do that constantly.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't like it because I want them to make more.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think they'll make some more.
[SPEAKER_01]: In fact, they are making more, this one I'll actually set up before I start.
[SPEAKER_02]: I like it.
[SPEAKER_02]: One division would be a nice, to get more of that, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: More wander vision.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that's good.
[SPEAKER_01]: But whatever they're going to do with the Scarlet Witch in the EBSU, I don't think she's going to show up in the show unless it is some sort of like brief capio, but I also thought the end, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Give us the
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I thought we were going to get that an Agatha all along and we didn't get that there either.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think they're going to bring her back until whatever the reveal is and either doomsday or secret wars.
[SPEAKER_01]: She's definitely going to be a bad though, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: We got it.
[SPEAKER_01]: She's good.
[SPEAKER_01]: She's too good.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to set up this one better.
[SPEAKER_01]: So people can't watch along and play along with us.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is the shutoff.
[SPEAKER_01]: A special look at Avengers Doomsday as well at D23.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is the same special look they showed off at San Diego.
[SPEAKER_01]: Comic Con.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think if I recall from the first trailer, we were all like
[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't know, right, or will you hype speed?
[SPEAKER_01]: No, it was not hype, it was not.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I was also not hyped.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's see what your hype levels are for this one, Pete.
[SPEAKER_01]: You ready?
[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, here we go.
[SPEAKER_01]: Counting down for the podcast.
[SPEAKER_01]: Three, two, one.
[SPEAKER_04]: Victor was always the smartest guy in every room.
[SPEAKER_04]: He used to be different.
[SPEAKER_03]: Marvel flip.
[SPEAKER_03]: I used to be kind, these to be caring.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh shit.
[SPEAKER_04]: Gambon.
[SPEAKER_04]: Everything he loved was taken from him.
[SPEAKER_02]: Cry Dr. Kim.
[SPEAKER_02]: I knew he was lost.
[SPEAKER_02]: Shanky?
[SPEAKER_02]: Not realized.
[SPEAKER_02]: That he was broke.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's bullshit.
[SPEAKER_02]: How can you not realize that you're doing this for all this?
[SPEAKER_02]: It's pretty obvious.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Did you do this?
[SPEAKER_02]: We didn't do, baby.
[SPEAKER_02]: Ooh, that looks like downing underneath that mask.
[SPEAKER_03]: Have you just...
[SPEAKER_03]: Stolen lives.
[SPEAKER_03]: What a flower you must give them back.
[SPEAKER_03]: I swear, you will beg for a hell long before I grudge him.
[SPEAKER_02]: Who made us two from your grave?
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the eye environment, he says I am doomed.
[SPEAKER_02]: There you go.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's, and just like everybody depicted, I'll say I've eaten through a thousand.
[SPEAKER_02]: That is anti-pulmac.
[SPEAKER_02]: How does he go from Iron Man to the German accent to He always says I have doom.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what doom doom is like doom would like to order doom's breakfast down.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but having to do that.
[SPEAKER_02]: His famous for saying I in Iron Man say I am doom undercuts the fun of it all.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's obviously purposeful.
[SPEAKER_01]: What did you think Pete?
[SPEAKER_01]: What's your overall theory outside of the other than this like little nitpick right here at the end?
[SPEAKER_02]: I just I'm I'm having a hard time because it's like I'm like, hey, there's ironman and they're like, no, it's too And I'm like all right.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's got an accent.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, also if you spend five minutes with Victor and don't know that he's a bad guy You're not paying attention.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what that lady was talking about that lady.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's so storm.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a Kirby
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, you know, there was a lot of side profile, I was out of the door.
[SPEAKER_01]: Is this your first time at back peak of on, you've been reading the stuff for years?
[SPEAKER_01]: You know who these people are.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm just saying that like...
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, this is the first time we're supposed to get excited.
[SPEAKER_02]: What am I supposed to say?
[SPEAKER_02]: This is the first thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh shit.
[SPEAKER_01]: here's the thing I'm still not convinced that this movie is a good to be an absolute utter mess, but this is the first thing that got me hyped and made me feel that anything in any way because you like babies and you're like oh shit, there's a baby very cute babies several cute babies and several cute kids and I love babies and kids period.
[SPEAKER_01]: I have nothing further to add
[SPEAKER_01]: know there's a couple of things that caught the hype to hear like I'll talk about the stuff that I didn't like in this teaser a second but first of all I know you don't like him but centering it around sue read and doom in particular ready yelling at dubs face and be like what did you do victor that I'm like
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, I'm only human, you know, like I like Reed Richards, a doctor do being the center of this particular thing and yelling at each other, having a posing philosophy.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's that's been part and parcel with the comics for since the 1960s at this point.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I love seeing it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love seeing it a lot more than like, hey, here's Steve Rogers again, or here's a bunch of X-Men showing up for no particular reason.
[SPEAKER_01]: That to be like,
[SPEAKER_02]: Here's the problem I'm having, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to see all the movies and Old Robbie Boy died and I cried for them, okay?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: So now you're teasing me with a new thing, but I don't know how we get from the funeral to this birth and I'm having a hard time, so like, I, I, how do we need to understand how we got in the beginning?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and then I get excited to see you really with you.
[SPEAKER_01]: Unless they really somehow beyond all reason, nail this, cast a Robert out of your dream as a mistake.
[SPEAKER_01]: But, devoid of any of the external things, just on this like two-ish-minute clip, I do think doom looks cool, Robert Towney Jr.
[SPEAKER_01]: Seem's cool as doom.
[SPEAKER_01]: And again, on the only human bed, see Dr. Doom raise an army of settles behind him.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's cool, right Pete?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, I like Doom as a villain.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's one of my favorite villains.
[SPEAKER_02]: Doom bots are hilarious and fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: But, you know, like fantastic four is there's a couple good moments in the movie.
[SPEAKER_02]: The, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's like, you know, it's an unbalanced.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a lot of fish.
[SPEAKER_02]: Not all of you.
[SPEAKER_01]: Ground that we're trying to build this excitement on.
[SPEAKER_01]: the I think just to be clear in terms of like how over-hyping this I'm getting it's just that nothing that has happened previously has has made me feel anything and if it's made me feel anything it's maybe feel like a sour bliss because
[SPEAKER_01]: all the clips that they put out at the beginning of the year, like the little trailers, they put people were avatar.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, I don't know if this is making feel anything.
[SPEAKER_01]: The last teaser that they put out same thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, okay, I guess Gambit versus Shang-Chi is cool, but again, I'm not like screaming and pounding my fist or anything like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: That is cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: Gambit versus Shang-Chi is cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: The stuff in here, centering doom, giving it a emotional thread,
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe there's like a 5 to 10% chance that they can pull this off by centering doom as somebody who wants vengeance on everybody or blames them for wrecking his life whether true or not that is essentially doomed to me all the other stuff that you're saying again I agree with you why is Robert doubted you do why is there a twisted iron man what is going on there that's what will find out of the movie I presume
[SPEAKER_02]: The other thing, yeah, guy.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just saying, like give me a little hints like show another read Richards show You know, he means so like oh, it's a multipers.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's how we got Ironman doom going on so I can be like, oh, so I can follow along because I feel like I've watched all the movies Why aren't I included and what's going on showing a baby having suit storm be like man, you know who used to be cool doom
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I didn't see that coming.
[SPEAKER_02]: Seems like such a smart guy, and then what happened?
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, are you out of your mind so storm?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, the last name is Doom.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, well, first off like, yeah, like, but, and he's also a doctor, and we don't trust those guys.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know man, it's just, I want to get excited, but your tip of me stuff that is head scratching and being like, ooh, fantastic.
[SPEAKER_01]: What I think this did effectively without repeating myself too much is for me, this, at least for the most part, looked cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: Eddub looked cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: The two finger stop was cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: That was very cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: Cool moments.
[SPEAKER_01]: And ultimately, this is going to be a spectacle movie.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think this is the sort of movie that, like, wow, this is really making me think about a lot of stuff in my life.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just want to watch cool superhero flights and watch things go boom and explode, so if you could promise me that With a little bit of like the comic geek out of oh man read a duper really disagreeing about stuff this time I'm happy with that We'll see how it all pads out at a three hour movie
[SPEAKER_01]: but I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: On the more negative side, I think it looks like garbage, like just in terms of the shots of everything, those fights and like the gray smokey wasteland, the same way that they ended, endgame and every other movie, I'm like, this doesn't look good.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I think that maybe there's still rendering images.
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe it all looks so brown, all of the shots of everybody around or clearly there to be like,
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's that guy and there's that guy and there's that other guy and but everybody looks like they're out in photo shoot for Vendor's doomsday.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't get what any of them were doing there and it feels like a big contrast between Patriarch Pascal acting is a little hard out being like Did you do that's vector?
[SPEAKER_01]: What are you doing?
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, we'll see
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, there's the first thing that gave me a little bit of hope for the movie, uh, Pete sounds like it did not for you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Did not, but two fingers is all I need to stop, but the Thor is fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, that is fun.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's talk about the third thing we don't have a clip for this, but
[SPEAKER_01]: the third item of news is they announced the cast for the new X-Men movie or at least some of the cast for the new X-Men movie and they announced that it is coming out in May 5th, 2020.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's like loves, no, it's like the this makes it by the way the third movie that Marvel is going to be putting out ostensibly in 2022 and the eighth they announced Ghost Rider is coming out sometime during the year and Black Panther 3 December 15th, 2020.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's interesting.
[SPEAKER_01]: I will say to
[SPEAKER_01]: Marvel after they're saying we're taking a little pause to assess things to go back to the regular schedule by twenty twenty eight, but let's run through it and this is Spoilers for some other movies the MCU if you haven't to see the recent MC movies yet if you have you see in
[SPEAKER_01]: here's the spoiler spider-man brand new day so you know that Sadie Stink is Gene Gray and she is going to be back in the movie by the way it's going to be directed by Jake Schreier who did Thunderbolts and the rest of the cast is I should push this to last but he's listed first Kit Conner who people might know from Hartstopper is going to be Scott Summers aka Cyclops in the movie.
[SPEAKER_01]: Here's an odd one.
[SPEAKER_01]: Christopher Abbott, who is in girls, is going to be Professor Charles Xavier.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you're familiar with his work at all.
[SPEAKER_01]: He was also, you saw Craig in the Hunter, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: He was the foreigner.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a weird choice.
[SPEAKER_01]: Not just because he has hair, we're just fired.
[SPEAKER_01]: I could get past that.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just like he just kind of a dude who hangs around.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a good actor, but it's weird.
[SPEAKER_01]: I wanted to pick Tim as Xavier.
[SPEAKER_01]: Also previously announced, but Samara Weaving is going to be playing Emma Frost.
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, and then the new casting that they announced is Indy Navarret is going to be rogue.
[SPEAKER_01]: She's from obsession recently and she played freaky niki.
[SPEAKER_01]: She was also on Superbat in Lois.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was great on that.
[SPEAKER_01]: At a total newcomer, Maya Boyd, who is a Broadway veteran, she's been an Angelia and others, is going to be Storm.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's pretty cool, and not there, but announced to be a video, Adam Driver is going to be in the movie as are you ready Pete, Nathaniel Millbury.
[SPEAKER_01]: Nathaniel Milberry is the character that they'd outstim his plate.
[SPEAKER_01]: Are you psyched?
[SPEAKER_01]: Dude, come on.
[SPEAKER_01]: Who is that?
[SPEAKER_01]: Nathaniel Milberry is one of the aliases of Mr. Citizenists.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, right.
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's weird to me that he's like, he could be a fun villain.
[SPEAKER_01]: For sure, it's so weird to me that they're like, Oh, no, he's Nathaniel Milberry.
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't...
[SPEAKER_02]: Google that, by the way, like why would you just say Mr. Sinister?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, just say Mr. Sinister, we all have access to Wikipedia, it's okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: You could say it.
[SPEAKER_01]: So let's talk about this.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how much of a reaction you have any idea of stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: I like that we're getting a storm.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm upset we're getting a cyclops.
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like we can tell this X-Men start
[SPEAKER_01]: What do you think about this mix?
[SPEAKER_01]: We've got Cyclops, Jean Gray, Professor X, Emma Frost, Rogue, and Storm.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just on, we don't know what sides they're going to be on or anything, but just on a team level, how do you feel about that?
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I mean, it's an interesting team.
[SPEAKER_02]: You got there, which is, which is cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: A lot of cool power sets.
[SPEAKER_02]: surprise no beast or night crawler or anything like that, but man, also no short angry people, which is little dismal.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, they're not done announcing a cast for still two years away from this, and there were rumors that I think Charles Melton maybe was going to be beast though apparently that's not happening.
[SPEAKER_01]: So they might still be casting some of those roles, and they'll show up later.
[SPEAKER_01]: If this is the team, I actually think this is cool mix.
[SPEAKER_01]: I like having a majority female team that really flips it from what I thought that we're going to do with the original 5x bed and 4 guys in a girl.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: I like all of these actors.
[SPEAKER_01]: Kit Connor is great on hardstop, but he's actually excellent as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: Rose accent.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to what they're going to do there because I think
[SPEAKER_01]: Based on how Sadie's sync is gene in Spider-Man, all bets are kind of off, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Like they could do literally anything for any of these characters.
[SPEAKER_01]: How do you feel about that, Pied?
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I mean, it's, it will be interesting if it's going to be like a fresh start clean slate type of situation, or if they're going to be doing something specific that we all know, but, yeah, I mean, as far as actors go, that's a great group of actors.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's exciting, you know, some people get excited about, I storms one of my favorite
[SPEAKER_02]: I was curious about younger because we are seeing them younger, you know, as we saw Sadian Spider-Man, so like, I think the storm was kind of a young badass at the corner round, you know, so could be cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the big thing is as long as they get the core of the characters right and I think I think in essence at the core they got Jean right in Spider-Man brand new day even though everything was kind of changed around her and if they could figure out a way of doing that with the rest of the characters getting away from what we tried and true know and throwing them in a situation where like maybe like Jean they're all on the run, you know, and
[SPEAKER_01]: either Professor X takes them in or Emma Frost takes them in or potentially Mr. Citicer takes them in or wants to experiment on them.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's all interesting stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like we're going to get not Xavier's school in Westchester the same way so much as
[SPEAKER_01]: some sort of like the team coming together and figuring out what they want to do.
[SPEAKER_01]: Got it closer to like, do you remember the valiant take on Harbin-Jur when they came back mid 2010s, where it was Peter Stancheck, it is leading these team, and they're on the run on the road?
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I kind of see happening with this, and I think that could be kind of cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, I'm just trying to picture Adam Driver with a jewel in the middle of his forehead, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, what are they going to do with that?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, do you think he's going to be like serious geneticist, Mr. Sinister?
[SPEAKER_01]: Is he going to be like the sassy, Mr. Sinister from Johnathan, equated care?
[SPEAKER_01]: You got Driver, you better put some sass on it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Put some sass on that?
[SPEAKER_03]: I want to be like, I just had sex and no I'm having that job!
[SPEAKER_01]: It is also a million people at the point of the set on live, but it is kind of funny that both Christopher Abbott and Adam Driver were boyfriends on girls, so you could throw a couple of others in there, throw a Donald Glover in the movie, Jake Lacy, honestly like it never stops.
[SPEAKER_01]: You could put anything there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Leena Dunham is Meg Dito.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just throwing it out there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what do you think?
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just seeing it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but this is pretty cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's a cool cast.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm interested to see how it develops.
[SPEAKER_01]: How are you feeling like in total?
[SPEAKER_01]: We got this Vision Quest trailer.
[SPEAKER_01]: We got Avengers, Doomsday trailer.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it would be super awesome if, you know, like,
[SPEAKER_02]: X-Men started doing well.
[SPEAKER_02]: X-Men's been such a great lift for comics, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_02]: So it'll be great to see them actually start doing some great X-Men stuff in TV and film because it's been really lacking for me anyway, so.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean this is kind of a flip but it did make me think I wonder what Marvel comics is going to do with lead up to this X-Men movie because this is an interesting team lineup that has and visually has absolutely nothing to do with what's going on in the X-Men comics so I wonder I mean this doesn't always happen but I wonder if like by the end of 2027 we start to see a
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe, just before we wrap up here, how are you feeling about MCU stuff, Pete?
[SPEAKER_01]: We've been a little back at fourth.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know I've been on the negative side, Justin, who's not here, has been on the negative side.
[SPEAKER_01]: Coming out of this D23, how are you feeling, MCU?
[SPEAKER_01]: So back, so same.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well the problem is this didn't move the needle at all for me you know you mean like I saw this stuff and then walked away not a more excited at all I have a little hope for the X-Men which is great but I'm not excited about Doom right now and that's a little disappointing to separate teasers you know and
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm maybe I'm coming away a little more positive than just because I thought.
[SPEAKER_01]: Couple way, man.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I thought vision quest looked great.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I thought that was a great trailer.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm very hyped for that show.
[SPEAKER_02]: I got a lot of hope for that show because it's got such a great cast.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's making interesting, and that's one of the things that one division was great at is like making artistic choices, taken swings, you know, like doing stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, oh, by the way, I'll mention something that my daughter points down to me that I didn't even notice with one division, Agthal long and now vision quest.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're all built around a weird house.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, which I thought is a nice observation.
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm very excited about that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I felt that trail of a daughter doing a lot of house shopping lately, as that was you showed us.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're trying to get her out of here.
[SPEAKER_01]: Doomsday, meanwhile, I'm still kind of iffy about that movie, but what this gave me, I hope for, is at least I might have some fun geek out moments in the theater, and I'm intrigued by the X-Men casting.
[SPEAKER_01]: I want it to be good.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love the X-Men.
[SPEAKER_01]: I hope it is good and interesting and as bold of a take as what they did with Gene Grants, by the man brand new day.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm still iffy about the future of the MCU, but you know,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Pete, what did you do?
[SPEAKER_03]: What did you do, Pete?