[SPEAKER_01]: One of the baseball insiders, one week post trade deadline, hope you got in your rest.
[SPEAKER_01]: I have not, I'm so awake and have so much mass, hallucinogenic reality that I think the New York Giants might be good this year.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's where I'm at.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's where I'm at.
[SPEAKER_01]: Happy training camp.
[SPEAKER_01]: But hey, happy storylines down the stretch.
[SPEAKER_01]: As we head towards the postseason, it made really baseball.
[SPEAKER_01]: One team that made the biggest move of the trade deadline is heading in the right direction, and it's not the team that acquired Terrick Scooble.
[SPEAKER_01]: What to do about the Tigers, what to do about the Dodgers bullpen and their recent malaise, plus thoughts on some young Yankees playing well, obviously.
[SPEAKER_01]: And a debut of a brave ace that no Atlanta fan wanted, but he looked pretty good.
[SPEAKER_01]: Plus, I want to set some expectations for the offseason, and I figure now that we are between the deadline and the winter, what could be very long one.
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to talk to Robert Murray about what we can actually expect, timeline wise, whether we can maybe get a flurry of activity before this lockout begins, what to anticipate, who we can anticipate hearing from, and to break it all down, and answer your questions, is Robert Murray, Robert, welcome to the show.
[SPEAKER_00]: is good to be here and we are a week removed from the deadline as you said the craziness has come down but still we have a ton of talk about because the trades were already starting to see some ripple effects from them.
[SPEAKER_00]: Some that we expected, some that we didn't expect.
[SPEAKER_00]: They look into the off season.
[SPEAKER_00]: I've got plenty of thoughts I got to become in there as well.
[SPEAKER_00]: I also told Adam before the show that I eat sushi with a fork.
[SPEAKER_00]: He did not judge me for it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if you guys have a similar opinion but I would love to know him or wrong for that or you guys all see it
[SPEAKER_00]: but this is a baseball podcast.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not a sushi eating with a fork podcast, so we got that going for us.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's dive into some bulk, cause we got some good stuff to talk about, but Adam, why don't we have to be Monday?
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll be going.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to get you said you're going to start the show today by saying I think I'm to mention that sushi fork thing and I was like in my head I was like I don't believe you I don't think you're going to do that but you you did work yeah so here we are as everybody do way and if you think that's strange I again I'm not great with chopsticks I will use it for a from time of time I'll use my fingers from time of time.
[SPEAKER_01]: a little sloppy, but that's okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a big sushi fan.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love a shrimp tempura roll, a few like shrimp tempura rolls weigh in as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My dad just texted me actually and just said that sushi sucks, which that's actually a crazy opinion.
[SPEAKER_00]: Sushi's one of my all-time favorite meals, so I was a fan of Lincoln by Neil Murray in there and so on.
[SPEAKER_00]: Shout out to him.
[SPEAKER_01]: My favorite sushi place growing up was called Hanada.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then it got replaced by a place called Hanako.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, I'm really hoping it's good.
[SPEAKER_01]: I missed that sushi.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I went in.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was the same place, same menu.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know why they did that.
[SPEAKER_01]: But delicious sushi.
[SPEAKER_01]: You'll dragon roll.
[SPEAKER_01]: Always a favorite growing up.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, you see what Jackson Joe and Troy Melon just did for the Tigers this weekend?
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, they, they also acquired River Ryan in that little trade where they sent someone named Terri Skugul to Los Angeles.
[SPEAKER_01]: The guardians in the White Talks at home this week for the Tigers are going to reset today, time off, and then sixth straight against division opponents.
[SPEAKER_01]: They passed the guardians over the weekend.
[SPEAKER_01]: The White Talks are in their sights that are a game out of the wild card race.
[SPEAKER_01]: They do not have tariff school, they do not have casemines, it has not stopped them, they have the best run differential in the American League.
[SPEAKER_01]: Last show I said, I'm looking for a spot to put the tires in the playoff field.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm still doing it, and I can't really envision a world where they're not in it.
[SPEAKER_01]: At the end of the year, if these things bear out in the law of averages works, it's magic, and they eventually make it into the field over several teams that I think are, you know, there are a bunch of teams in that mix that I think are undeserving of being there, the Tigers are one of the best.
[SPEAKER_01]: three teams in the American league so they should be in the postseason and when they get there I'm saying when they get there they're not going to have their back to backside on winter and like don't even know if it's going to matter what do you feel about these crazy tires?
[SPEAKER_01]: This could be the week with the Guardians of Wexak coming up.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not saying we're ahead of the curve here because obviously they've already done a lot of damage this year, but I think a lot of people want to be coming back next week Being like how the tires get in the plateau how are the tires leaving the central and we're here to tell you that I mean They they're leading the center.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're doing whatever they did at the end of the week because they've been one of the best teams in the league all year seven straight road series wins
[SPEAKER_00]: unbelievable.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's crazy because right after that trade was made, if you heard us here in the baseball insiders, they still had eyes on competing for this season.
[SPEAKER_00]: Even after moving school, they were not rolling out a case you might as trade by any means, but there were so many people who thought it was going to be that big epic sell off.
[SPEAKER_00]: They only sold two other pieces, granted, pretty big pieces.
[SPEAKER_00]: but here they are now.
[SPEAKER_00]: As you said, they want a bunch of road series in a row.
[SPEAKER_00]: I believe it's seven in a row at this point.
[SPEAKER_00]: They have an incredible run differential at this point.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then they just get Jackson Joe back.
[SPEAKER_00]: And in his rehab onnings, he looked very good.
[SPEAKER_00]: He had a 1.76-y array and I believe five appearances.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then he was first outing, he threw five innings of one run ball and looked really good there.
[SPEAKER_00]: So a lot of good things that are happening here
[SPEAKER_00]: I am definitely not rolling them out in this postseason next because if you look at that division, you have the Chicago White Sox, they're leading it, but the Tigers are only three and half games back at the moment, and a lot can happen between not.
[SPEAKER_00]: And we saw last year in that same division, how the Guardians ended up just coming flying back,
[SPEAKER_00]: And ended up catching the Tigers.
[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously this season is a bit different because there's not like that big gap.
[SPEAKER_00]: But the Tigers absolutely have the ability.
[SPEAKER_00]: They have the talent to go out and do it.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're going to need from revolve as to be from revolve as.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they're going to need their young star players, especially Kevin McGonagoul, Max Clark, to name others, or to name a few I should say.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a really step up here, but they are well within striking distance.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know the white socks, they're the seasons darling.
[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of people love them myself included, but the tigers are here to stay.
[SPEAKER_00]: I would not be surprised if they ended up coming out on top of that division, which did not expect that, especially after the scoobled trade.
[SPEAKER_01]: Troy Melton, 7 and 1, 1.46 ERA this year.
[SPEAKER_01]: The case may be not where you want them to be, but hard to ask for much more from your ace.
[SPEAKER_01]: 10 and 3, 1, 9, 3 overall at the MLP level in 29 games played.
[SPEAKER_01]: Meanwhile, these scoobal havers in Los Angeles, look, he's not the problem.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're plenty of the problems.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a whole bunch of offensive malaise.
[SPEAKER_01]: They've won one of their last nine games, and the one win.
[SPEAKER_01]: came with a one run lead handed to Edwin Diaz and back to back triples from Arizona to start off the bottom of the night.
[SPEAKER_01]: They strand the winning run on third the Dodgers survive in extras.
[SPEAKER_01]: But there is obviously streakiness, streakiness of bounds and happens to the best of us.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep, even bad streakiness.
[SPEAKER_01]: So this is not eliminate the Dodgers from both these intentions.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is not going to knock them out of the world's areas.
[SPEAKER_01]: But
[SPEAKER_01]: there was a rumor over the weekend that you know MLB teams find them vulnerable and I would add to that and say they were vulnerable last year too and the year before he was didn't play up to their standards and the you know blue jays just couldn't hold on get those final three outs uh but they're like they are vulnerable this year as well and they are looking weaker than they've been in a while they have the same bullpen problem they're seemingly always have.
[SPEAKER_01]: Edwin Diaz
[SPEAKER_01]: not living up to expectations after returning from injury.
[SPEAKER_01]: They've pieced together the playoffs with Roki Sasaki playing a key role with Blake trying and relying on his past to make up for his present struggles.
[SPEAKER_01]: They have always seemingly found arms to plug and play and getting scuba will help them do that help them bump a robust key from their rotation.
[SPEAKER_01]: this year or help them slow play Tyler Glass as we have or something like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: But regardless, Diaz got a go and they need to find a solution and the biggest offseason reliever contract does not appear to be the closer of the present and future for the Los Angeles Dodgers.
[SPEAKER_01]: Tough to say concerned, but how concerned are you about their ability to figure out the back end?
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so that's I'm glad you threw that disclaimer in there.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not concerned about the Dodgers overall in figuring this thing out But I am concerned about the back end of that bullpen and it's it's been a consistent issue for them because last year They gave Tanner Scott that big deal and yet he could not pitch to the ability that he did
[SPEAKER_00]: previously in his careers, but especially the year before.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then Edwin Diaz as soon as he returns here, he is not remotely close to the player that they thought they were getting.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you wonder is it rust?
[SPEAKER_00]: Like what exactly can they attribute this thing to?
[SPEAKER_00]: I do like I'm confident in the player, I think, eventually they'll turn this thing around, but they absolutely have to go out and consider
[SPEAKER_00]: finding somebody at least temporarily to fill in the ninth inning because they're losing very winnable games and Diaz who should be as reliable as they come, especially considering his contract is not living up to that.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I am confident overall on the daughters and eventually writing this ship is losing streak or this downturn I should say is not going to continue forever.
[SPEAKER_00]: And there is a couple of things that I've thought, and I even, I said it last year during the show, and I wonder even if this happens again is, could it be a case where these guys are simply like possibly getting bored?
[SPEAKER_00]: I've heard Greg Popovich talk about it before when he was as coach of the spurs, when they were just on those epic runs, and he said boredom wasn't necessarily the right word, but he knew exactly like what the reporter was referring to, like possibly going
[SPEAKER_00]: But also too, you have to wonder, could it be the consistent wear and tear for two consecutive deposes and runs, and now it's eventually going to be another deposes and run for them?
[SPEAKER_00]: Could that eventually catch up to them later in the season?
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not trying to make excuses for the Dodgers.
[SPEAKER_00]: Trust me, I'm not, but I think they're talented, actually, like Trump's at all.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're going to end up getting back probably to the world series.
[SPEAKER_00]: They seem like they're pretty definitive, favorite at this point, despite this downturn.
[SPEAKER_00]: like you, or they're at least hopeful is gonna get back in amount is what I want to say there.
[SPEAKER_00]: But they have all the pieces there to make it happen.
[SPEAKER_00]: They just need ideas to get going.
[SPEAKER_00]: I eventually think you will, but right now, unplayable might be a little strong, but like bumping them out of the night thinning seems like it should be a pretty realistic thought for that entire coaching staff there.
[SPEAKER_01]: pretty close to unplayable.
[SPEAKER_01]: And again, working out of that jam with the back back tripals is one thing, but not creating that jam is quite another.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm with you.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not a great argument for Emily is competitive balance to say.
[SPEAKER_01]: The top team in the sport is so good.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're bored.
[SPEAKER_01]: But hey, complacency is part of it along with playoff wear and tear.
[SPEAKER_01]: I believe in the Dodgers ability to rise to the moment in October and erase late deficits until I see an October where they can't do it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like if they get to the end of this one and they don't have a dramatic wind like that and they don't have an insane series where they're able to clinch against all odds then okay, then we've seen it.
[SPEAKER_01]: But until then they have basically proven that they can get off the mat with anybody.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I'm going to say that they I mean they should be the favorites.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think they're getable this year, but that's not a departure and that's not saying they weren't last year.
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought they were getable last year too.
[SPEAKER_01]: The brewer's got them all regular season long.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then when it came time to go ahead to head, they didn't have what it took.
[SPEAKER_01]: This year, I think the brewer's should be in that conversation.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think the cubs should be as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the Dodgers getting into a best of three.
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe with the fillies as the bracket currently lines up might facilitate that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Might make it a little more interesting.
[SPEAKER_00]: not totally and like this entire postseason race is going to be fascinating in the national league and like you mentioned those teams too like Donna stretch I wonder how much of a fact that Arizona is ultimately going to be.
[SPEAKER_00]: as well.
[SPEAKER_00]: Then in San Diego, San Diego, like for whatever reason, Asia probably was coming down or coming under fire for buying at the deadline and being aggressive and like probably had to go say, I want to say it was your Bob Nightingale that he's not going to apologize for going on and winning.
[SPEAKER_00]: But that Padres team's got got some like the good vibes going right now.
[SPEAKER_00]: The pickup Austin hazy immediately picks up or hits a home run there as well.
[SPEAKER_00]: I am definitely not ruling out even a surprise team emerging here.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I know
[SPEAKER_00]: in baseball who look at a team like the Arizona Diamondbacks in a similar level to the Milwaukee Brewers where there's such a difficult team the face on a nightly basis because they play hard They put a lot of pressure on you on the base paths and they're coach really well Tori Lavello does a tremendous job there and which is why I've never understood The cries for people to go out and fire him in recent seasons.
[SPEAKER_00]: I would just be a massive mistake but
[SPEAKER_00]: I still think the National League runs through those teams like the Dodgers, the Phillies, the Cubs, the Burrers, but the surprise teams, I'm telling you, I think they're worthy of keeping that on here for sure.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm definitely not rolling out Prollers.
[SPEAKER_00]: Prollers' Padres out there and hopefully Drew's still watching because he'll like the Padres.
[SPEAKER_00]: I love their for sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: yet jet in the comments to the nationally even with the Dodgers in there does feel a little more interesting to me than the American League unless the Tigers can really get a record that is representative of their success this year and can get closer to the mix closer to threatening the Yankees and Red Sox right now you sort of got I mean the Red Sox coming off this absurd heater and the Yankees
[SPEAKER_01]: 17 and 12 against mostly playoff teams in their last 29 games, but the offense has just been absolute bottom of the barrel without air and judge in any way you slice it with runs on scoring position without whatever you're looking at they look like a team they're good wow is that team missing its two-less players the answer is yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: George Lombard Jr. comes up last week though and finally breath of fresh air from the short stop position three defensive runs saved in his first four games play, which I didn't know that was possible.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a big home run in his debut.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a big insurance home run against the British bullpen on Saturday.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a reason the Yiggy fans are going a little bit.
[SPEAKER_01]: overboard, because that's what they do about this kid and his abilities.
[SPEAKER_01]: Spencer Jones had a big weekend too, had two Ribby Knox, one of them a triple off Chris Sale, interesting series in the Bronx where the Yankees take two and a three from Atlanta.
[SPEAKER_01]: Atlanta could have swept Yankees could have swept, that wouldn't have surprised anybody.
[SPEAKER_01]: These are razor thin games, Chris Sale against Garrett Cole on Old Timers Day, very enjoyable.
[SPEAKER_01]: Tyler Malley,
[SPEAKER_01]: maybe the pitching performance of the weekend, the new acquisition that Braves fans were saying where is the A's?
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, A, A, where is my A's?
[SPEAKER_01]: You have no idea what to do with the deadline, where's Logan Webb?
[SPEAKER_01]: Only one start so far and it's against the Yankees line up that I just shit all over, but interesting weekend in the Bronx for I would say both of those teams thoughts on the melee acquisition, one start deep and thoughts on Lombard and Jones, maybe adding
[SPEAKER_00]: No, and I'll start with Tyler Malley with the Atlanta Braves.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like the Braves, they definitely wanted to address the rotation in a big way.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like they had their eyes on Terry's school, but their prime target seemed like it was Jacob the Grom.
[SPEAKER_00]: And there's reports from the athletics that they had a deal in place.
[SPEAKER_00]: And ultimately, the Grom and an up-shoot in it down, that would have been a massive addition.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's why we were talking about the Rangers possibly being.
[SPEAKER_00]: in a position to have like a big sell-off, but ultimately it was a player's specifically in Jacob DiGram and also Nathaniel Baldi who controlled their fates there, considering they both had no trades, and neither of them ended up waving it.
[SPEAKER_00]: But Tyler Malie was a player that Atlanta had pursued for a couple of years, they had really liked him, and it's funny enough they actually were pursuing him before he sat with the Texas Rangers a couple of years ago.
[SPEAKER_00]: So another Rangers tie in there for Atlanta, not sure exactly how funny that is, but
[SPEAKER_00]: But they got him this year and they thought his performance in San Francisco and his previous stuff was an indicator that there was more in the tank.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's for one start.
[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, extremely limited sample size, but that is exactly what Enthopolis was looking for there.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's done it in the past and getting these unheralded guys and getting them to perform at a big level or at a high level on the biggest stages.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, good start for Tyler Malay, but definitely not ready to crown that the best move with the deadline yet.
[SPEAKER_00]: and will possibly get there.
[SPEAKER_00]: But as far as the New York Yankees go, this is exactly what they needed at the shortstop position because I don't know how much more you could have personally taken of Anthony Volpi at shortstop and now you get some new life in there and it player that fans have been begging for practically almost all season and he's come out and just performing
[SPEAKER_00]: offensively is doing this thing almost in 300, but the power defensively is doing this thing there.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm still not exactly sure about Spencer Jones.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think the strike outs in the swing and mess it's got me a little not sure what his future is ultimately going to look like.
[SPEAKER_00]: But what a start here from George Lombard Jr.
[SPEAKER_00]: Just a terrific start, and it was also really cool seeing his family in the stands for his debut.
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought that was extremely cool what baseball is all about, but he's to me, I think he is destined for a really, really, really, really strong career.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think Jones absolutely has it in him for sure, but it kind of just the strikeouts that he's got to figure out, but really promising star here from Lombard Jr. for sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: it was funny to watch and be the most exciting player on the field out non-gare cold division on old timers day and a name drop alert i talked to Nick swisher this weekend who unsurprisingly reemphasize how important it is to him to see all these players who big league bloodlines.
[SPEAKER_01]: his dad's deep swisher was a pro and he said he was at the old time as they talk in a clay Belinger and David Weathers you know these guys with kids on the eggs and he made sure to point out I asked hey what you see from Lombard that he is another guy who's been around a clubhouse his whole life There's a photo that popped up this weekend of Aaron Judge on the field with him and his brother
[SPEAKER_01]: who also homeworked his pro debut on the same day that George did at the big league level.
[SPEAKER_01]: Aaron Judge posing with them when they were George seniors, kids on the field because he was a Dodgers coach.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now he is a Tigers coach, but they've been around the game forever.
[SPEAKER_01]: He appears to ask the right questions.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a report that said,
[SPEAKER_01]: He was grilling Spencer Jones on grant homes minutes after they had won Saturday's game ahead of Sunday's game These are the little things that you hear and if your team is losing as a fan You're like, okay, who gives a shit, but if your team is winning It seems to be all the difference in the world and lob our junior again the intangible battle is tough in New York
[SPEAKER_01]: Anthony Volpi, I won't say much, but came into it with a big advantage of being a child at Yankees fan at Derek Geter's position.
[SPEAKER_01]: And very quickly, that goodwill started to erode.
[SPEAKER_01]: Lombard has been a slow starter, at basically every level he's played at so far.
[SPEAKER_01]: So not to say, this is going to continue.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's just on an upward trajectory.
[SPEAKER_01]: This will never stop.
[SPEAKER_01]: But he's got plenty of narrative advantages in his corner, too.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he was able to compose himself and have a big market debut that set off fireworks, that set off the positive kind of takes from the take cannon.
[SPEAKER_01]: And there's something to be said for that, given how much struggle he's had at the other levels he's tried to conquer, going forward and getting this one under his belt could really help him in New York.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, they totally do because if you end up on the wrong foot, I mean, you see exactly how that's ended up playing out with Anthony Volpi here for sure, but this could not be a more promising start.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he just got, I don't know, the charm, the ability, where I think he can really end up having just the fans just go by, like, just give him a ton of support.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's going to be a really big first career overall.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I think what you said about the bloodlines being
[SPEAKER_00]: making an impact is a very real thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's something that I've heard about since I was a little kid.
[SPEAKER_00]: My dad, my dad also got me on that.
[SPEAKER_00]: He told me exactly how important that is, and next thing you know, it's like it's a big thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: You've seen it with Prince Fielder and his dad.
[SPEAKER_00]: You've seen it with a bunch of these other guys here as well.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now we're seeing it with CC Sabathia, which that one makes me feel.
[SPEAKER_00]: Extremely old, but it's it's a legit thing and you can watch these kids come up through the clubhouse and they see it on a daily basis Like what is like being a big league or what it takes?
[SPEAKER_00]: Like how to act like what it's like being a pro and just a daily grind It that's I think that's one of the most important things that there is Because you can't replace that you can't learn that anywhere else and they just have it instilled in them and
[SPEAKER_00]: I think George Lombard Jr. is bound for a really, really, really, really strong career here.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, would be a very smart guy.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think for Brian Cashman to try to go out and maybe extend not to get that conversation going already, but we've seen other teams be super aggressive in these similar situations here.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if that's necessarily the most Brian Cashman level thing to do at this point, but I think that'd be a smart thing for him to consider because he clearly,
[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't seem like it's too big of a moment here for him at least as of this point We'll see how he does in the postseason not to put too much pressure on the kid But it seems like he's off to a really good start.
[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, again, I think that's a conversation We're having after Brian Cashman in a frying catchman won't have it to me.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's time for Brian Cashman is deficit.
[SPEAKER_00]: Look, let's get him to No, no, no, no, no, no, we're not rushing over that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm telling you Brian Cashman.
[SPEAKER_00]: I say what's oil of L. I said what other people you will not know what you got until it's gone.
[SPEAKER_00]: I've got through
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: There we go.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't know that was a joke or not.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's true.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think all you have to do is to look at what David Stern's is doing in New York with a big market budget, unable to do with Brian Cashman was pulled off and threading the needle.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's threaded many years.
[SPEAKER_01]: It is really hard around these parts to say that out loud.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm probably going to get you fans that's on my window right now who turn the podcast.
[SPEAKER_01]: Turn the volume way up after I sent firecashman and then
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so off season real quick for we go, um, I just want to set expectations and guidelines because I'm a little confused to heading into the off season.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we know that the CBA, whatever the changes may be, it's going to change.
[SPEAKER_01]: So there were a lot, there was a lot of talk when school goes to LA about hey, maybe there will be an extension.
[SPEAKER_01]: In that little interstitial period so that he's grandfathered into whatever this is going to be do you expect some sort of flurry of extensions before the CBA talks of players get grandfathered in the players obviously know that they you know there's bargaining power in the uncertainty so there are plenty of players who I'm sure are going to say why am I going to take a discount now let me ride this out let's have this conversation what are you expecting right when sort of the offseason begins their flurry of activity some activity hesitance at what what's going to happen there
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, again, I fully expect there to be extension talks happening a plenty across the league.
[SPEAKER_00]: I could even see some of them happening right now.
[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, at this point, you want to, if you're a team, you don't want to like, distract a player, but I think considering the circumstances are going to be common after the season, whether it's a major league or even like a prospect, I think that's something these teams are definitely going to have in their mind.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I do expect a flurry of movement.
[SPEAKER_00]: after the season goes, and usually at the GM meetings, we have hardly any movement whatsoever.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think this could be the year where we have like a fair amount, or like at least some movement when it comes to signings or potential trades, because these teams are, or these players are going to want to have that financial certainty.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're going to want to not have to deal with for agency immediately after like the chaos of the lockout ending and scrambling to find a team.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I would look for there to be quite a good amount of movement before the lockout starts in
[SPEAKER_00]: Because a lot of God is happening like that is a four-bong conclusion at this point So yeah, I think it's going to be incredibly hectic it feels like it could end up being like a winter beatings type environment is What I'm anticipating which could lead to some crazy moves also some great concepts here at the baseball and sadders But I have been assured by I'm not kidding your numerous people that I've spoken to across baseball who expect
[SPEAKER_00]: That stretch right after the season in the late was in November, I think, yeah, I think if I'm getting my mom's correct to be just a crazy crazy stretch in terms of moves.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I would stay tuned to that for sure.
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