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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, hey, hey, welcome back to Yappel Nuffel.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm this full, and I'm here today with a returning guest.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's been on here, and I want to say more than ones, but I think I only got her on the mic really ones.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that twice?

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's been on here twice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You see, I keep thinking about that one time that she gave up all the secrets, and we didn't record any of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was terrible, but I got to know the inside scoop.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Either way, let's give it up for Nurse Ratchet, making a comeback.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're up, Nurse Ratchet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hi, everyone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How are you?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, hey, hey, so how you been?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Where are you?

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[SPEAKER_01]: How's life?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Life is good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I relocated.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's coming up almost on a year to Austin, Texas from Venice Beach.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So a bit different.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just a bit like that's that's that's.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that a monumental shift?

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[SPEAKER_01]: That kind of, that kind of is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A little of America, and there are some things that have been interesting living here that we can even get into.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, we're going to get into it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because there's a lot of people that made that move.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I know that you weren't making that move for the same reasons.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like other people were making that move.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But nonetheless, a lot of, what would you call, what's that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Where are we called Angelinos?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess we're called Angelinos.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like of Angelinos make that track where they're just like, you know what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm over the 405, I'm over the 101, the homeless problem is a disaster, the city ain't working, fuck it, I'm packing up, I'm going to Austin, not Dallas.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, not or I'm going to Houston.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not really, but that's kind of like what you hear.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've heard not like a lot of people hear like Houston's trash.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know what I'm going like.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's massive.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They say the traffic there is horrific.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think Houston itself is like the size of Connecticut.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's pretty massive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's pretty massive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now you're pretty massive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's like coming back to LA.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So give me give me the pros I would say cost of living Okay, I am renting a four bedroom house for the cost of my one bedroom apartment in Venice that is life changing Yes, that's life changing even mentally.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, I mean like I have

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, granted, I'm not getting a deal or anything on it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is like the how much it would cost to rent it, but my friend, sister owns this home.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And right before I was moving, she got offered a job in Pennsylvania that she took.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so it kind of was a little serendipitous, but you know, it's four bedrooms.

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[SPEAKER_00]: One of them she had already completely converted into a bar.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was fully stocked, so that's kind of fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's nice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but like a backyard left me a blackstone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's I got a I can pull in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have a two car garage.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's pretty nice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, a nice little neighborhood in South Austin.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, what's another pro.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would say.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, not that I've like dealt very deep into it, but in regards to going out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: people are a little more integrated in chatting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I will say, even though I don't have a look at country in me, everywhere has like big outdoor space.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's still a very outdoor driven city, which I appreciate, especially coming from California because there's that Laura be able to go outside granted the heat is potentially a con that I've gotten used to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like the humidity, but I mean people are running.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of outdoor activities.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Every bar you can think of has a huge outdoor area where you can bring dogs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it is a cool city in that sense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would say to, I am thinking about taking lessons, but a lot of bars have two stepping.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, and then each song that people just rotate and there are guys who are just like looking to dance and so instead of just standing around at a bar friend circle kind of gives that other option, which is cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the community, the food.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The food is good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I would say, like some people, I was back in LA briefly, not that long ago.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My friends like, what do you want?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you want to get tacos and I was like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: tacos, I don't know, but I'm like, not only that, but I was just like, I'm in Texas too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, breakfast tacos are a thing that like, everybody eats, the barbecue was insane, the barbecue's really good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I would say like diversity-wise, LA definitely takes the cake on the food.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, it's interesting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the other factor that's maybe a little bit of a con is particularly in the idea of dating

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[SPEAKER_00]: the political aspects.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You have some people where you're like, oh, there are some hardcore conservatives.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But now, here's the question, regarding that, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I've been thinking a lot about this, regarding like hardship, conservatives, or hardship, Democrats, where I'm like, I don't think, I don't think, if we were talking about circa 1990, hardcore conservatives, those would be considered moderate

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[SPEAKER_01]: right now yeah you know what I mean you know I'm saying Mitt Romney right now looks like a solid middle of the line Democrat blue dog what we would call a blue elephant or a blue dog or you know

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[SPEAKER_00]: You a lot of, well, my best friend from home in New York has lived in the Austin area for the last like 15 years or more and so she was kind of like the Laura of I wanted somewhere else to go didn't quite want to go back home to New York, but didn't know where to go for a long time was like there's no way in how you're going to catch me in Texas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then it just got to the point where certain things I think age-wise, for example, again, I don't own this house, but not living in a one-bedroom apartment forever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Those were things that started to become important that we're seeing more tangible, unfortunately, outside of California.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that if the fence of California, which I know people hate saying that like hearing this, if the expense wasn't there, I may not have left, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wasn't just that, but I mean, that was a factor of kind of feeling like a little stuck and oh, a progression doesn't progression here is very hard.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, you know, like I talk about it all the time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've had two jobs since I started working at, like, 15.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But 40 something now and you would think, oh, you have less jobs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I now do the podcast.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I now work at the prop house.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I now coach a soccer team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I coach a soccer clinic on Sundays.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm about to start a soccer league.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm about to become a commissioner of a league.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And every so often I'm trying to wrap up the key like I got like six jobs in Trying to progress hospitals like working at seeters Doctors were having other jobs and I'm like if an ER doctor needs a second job.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What and it was a good salary But it was just like where the money goes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I think this is funny too because when I moved here gas

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, obviously, gas is the topic now, but gas was under, it was like two something a gallon where I'm like, what special about gas in California that here, you know, it's just, it's silly economics, but it's silly, but it's what makes us run look and made you go, it's awesome, but it seems like you're having a good time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's been interesting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, my friend that does live here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: to really after me moving, she started to go through a divorce, which wasn't really planned.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's created a little bit of an interesting factor.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So then she moved into this house with me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now I haven't had, I've lived with someone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was in my own apartment in LA for like 12 years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that as much as I love her has been an adjustment.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Of course.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I think that,

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this might seem annoying, but there was something about I was kind of getting to the point NLA where you'd go out and maybe it was where I was or whatever people say, but it was it gets harder and harder to even make friends as you get older and then like you'd go out to a bar and I would just be like, this is bullshit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's just like everyone's in their little couple.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a not saying that you know, people don't go out in groups here, but

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[SPEAKER_00]: A little more people like, you know, where it's not kind of like, what can you do for me?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, hey, but that's what LA is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: LA going out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is networking.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's about it's funny that you say that because I fire about that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, how can we not going out?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, I got nothing to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to sell.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's, that's literally what you're doing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So hey, yeah, so, you know, it's followed by what your name and what you do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, right, give me your net worth and your FICO score.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you do have and I was like very nervous at first.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I will tell you like the first thing of business that I did was I was like I got to change my place.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because there's a California by Texas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so yeah, back to the, the, if you guys people don't like the fact that we're that allow, especially Angelina's Californians are coming over in in Texas is attributed to basically the influx of people coming from California.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then ironically, there are a lot of people from Texas that like are making the move to like Colorado, I think it's just a weird time in the country that people are kind of bouncing around being like where.

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[SPEAKER_01]: where can I settle in or where could I find my tribe it it well America currently is it's having a midlife crisis it's a little bit that's kind of like how I feel maybe because I'm going through my midlife crisis yeah

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm projecting it on to the rest of the country.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, it seems like all of you are going through the same thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I just know exactly what we want to do, where we want to go, how do we act, and then we're just, you know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, the funny thing too is my friend's like, well, Texan, you know, everyone's like, especially my family, my mom was worried.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's like Texas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, for, for example, abortion is illegal here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, what if you get pregnant?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, well, I'll tell you something mom.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And my age I'm like, that happens.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm keeping it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're past that bridge.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But, but yeah, so it's like those factors, we'll think of it as a very red state.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And ironically, the major cities are all very blue.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Houston is blue, Dallas is blue, Austin is blue, which is hence why they're trying to read you on the map.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but my friend was like, a lot of Texans are more libertarians kind of being like, you mind your business on my mind.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, don't, you know, I just don't, don't tread on me guys who are like, tread, tread, tread, tread.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I just, I just think the country is a lot, a lot more, um, similar than than than we think we are.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, I mean, it's more so it's unfortunate that the propaganda has driven it so left and right when the reality is is it's very obviously up and down for God where you live it's like so the rich people are screwed over everyone else that's it it's just like if we would come to realize and being like so wait we're being divided by the decimal point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: put our tax dollars in your friends' pockets over here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And everyone's like, wait, but what did you call us?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you're like, this is where we're at.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're just like, name calling and people are like, forgetting the point and forgetting it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Forgetting the plot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that everybody's like, how much money you have for groceries?

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[SPEAKER_00]: How much you have for gas?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because you know who's not worrying about that money?

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[SPEAKER_00]: All the people that are kind of creating the waves that are inducing these,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Americans struggles that are happening right now, it's all and it's all perfect like when I tell me I'm like it's all purposely done that like what do you mean I'm like this guy's here to break the market crash the market and they're like what do you mean crash it like do it if you crash the market the amount of suffering that you will get and then I'm like do you guys know where profit is made I'm like profits is made on the margins I'm like you know what's the biggest margin where profit is constantly lost according to the pencil pushers is in labor

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if we crash the market and suddenly you can honestly tell you what we don't have money you're going to have to lower your rate because the market's shit and because you don't know any better you're going to say well fuck I need a job because zero's a number two right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So secondly, now you're taking less for and doing more for and for how long?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know until the market recovers and in that time they'll lower the interest rate.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It'll go back to zero, but not on your credit card.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's I'm like you figure out all these things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like and then you're like realize oh It's not about where I pee.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, it was never about where you pee

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's not about, no, it was never about any of that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All that is just smoke and mirrors.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's all about the, it's noise.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, that's it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you ignore the fact, yeah, critical thinking is a real thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And since we've gotten lazy and critical thinking, and all we do is consume bite-sized bits of information and believe that then that makes us experts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, even in my field, I mean, jokingly, we'd always be like common sense, not so common.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And one of the doctors I used to work with, he's like, there's no cure for stupid.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, not when it's being like, you know, force out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, when you're just like, it's basically injected into you on a daily daily, like you get your daily, your hourly dose.

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[SPEAKER_01]: because of the dopamine hit that you got to know, you know?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we're also just neurologically, a lot of my background nurse wise is emergency and neurology.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But with that, doctors, I've gone to conferences, which is just a bunch of neurologists, and they talk about sleep hygiene, how people are just role-school, scroll, and they're like, they don't realize,

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is the first time in history that human beings are having access to so much information.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're like, they have a hundred tabs open in their brain.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, they don't know how to close them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They just go on to the next tab.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, all of that is kind of keeping your brain to this exhaustion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then people are wondering why they don't feel well mentally.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would be surprised if you could find a handful of people who are like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like who's walking around being like everything is perfect.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But Jeff Bezos on his yacht, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: That nurse shouldn't get taxed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, yeah bro, you're throwing it up dude.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like give out your money.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, if you literally Warren Buffett talks about that where he's like if you taxed people like he's like if you tax people like me,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Regular people don't have to pay taxes and I don't see why it's a big deal because it's not touching it doesn't affect me, but it's like everybody is They forget that a rising tide lifts all boats and we've somehow become a culture of like if you have it, I don't and that's where I think a lot of issues come from, but I think that now it's getting to the point where.

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[SPEAKER_00]: that divide of the obvious of like, oh, you're doing better than me, that's narrowing in regular people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so all the kind of hoopla that's been swirling around, I think that if you do have real conversations with people maybe on the other side of the aisle that think different than you, when you get down to it, the fundamentals of their day to day and your day

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so it's like, how did we make all these like less than 1% of trans athletes might I'm like get out of your man like when you're talking about the decimal the constant decimal point where you're like we got to stop the decimal point that's that's that's the problem the decimal points to problem like no that's not the problem it's it's it's you're not focusing on the larger way larger picture that we all should be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: demanding better of like when I tell people and I'm like you understand they did a in one earning one quarterly earning made the GDP of Europe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and three that means I'm like not not like oh prospect or no or or maybe no no no cash in hand made more.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then the continent of Europe I'm like here's the difference.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Free education and free health care is in Europe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We have one American company here, and they're not paying in taxes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, and not really that, but now everything is for a profit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You just now like, catapulted the point of everything down to money.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's why, unfortunately, you have regular everyday people thinking like, you can't get in that rat race.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They are so far past that,

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just yeah, I mean, like that's part of the thing here is like there's no there's no income tax in Texas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So granted, it kind of hurts my heart to sometimes like here, like, you know, where it's like my hourly rate, the difference, like even the first recruiter I spoke to they were like, hey, they gave me an offer and I was like, you got to be joking.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I've never negotiated a nursing position job at a hospital and I was like, no way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And she was like, okay, well, what do you, you know, like, what were you making in California?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I laughed, I was like, you don't even wanna know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But the reality is, is what I got them to meet me at.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm taking home the same amount I wasn't California because of the text.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Correct.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So then it's, you know, like that factor is, you know, it's kind of crazy, but it's just,

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's still something that you're like, even here, they're like, oh, this, this 2% raise and you're like, 2% 2% that's a dollar.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And for instance, up to 4% or 5%.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So really, you're not, you're not exactly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're, you're, you're, you're not being, you're not, you're not catching the,

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[SPEAKER_01]: inflation and you're still your dollar is still losing your time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if people would think of it the other way, and then we're not supposed to be talking about, this was so of subject.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But if people would think of it the other way and be like, my time, which by the way, you can't make more of.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The only commodity that you can't make more of, like, time is, whatever you're spending today

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, in the majority of Americans only have 75 summers, 75 winters, 75 springs, that's it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How much is that time really, really, really, really, really worth?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, when you put it in those perspective, and you say, oh, I got 2%, that's much your time is worth, and additional 2%, that's what we're saying.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that, I mean, even before I left California, I remember my boss at that and I was like, all right, it sounds like you want.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like you have people who then are having their review being like, what happened?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, last year and you're like, oh, I'm giving you the work that you're paying me for.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm worth the 2% raise, you're getting a 2% employee.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're getting a 2, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like the heart of you work the heart of the work you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like squeezing everything down to like, what else can we get?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the irony is even in like my field.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's still a monopoly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a bunch of big wig businessmen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: not medical people who are making the choice of being like, ah, the budget.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, right, not health care.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, and they'll be like, oh, they're trying to like strong arm nurses.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like there was that whole thing with like, in Boston, those nurses where they were negotiating and wanted to raise.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the hospital was like, what you're asking would mean that our labor force would, I mean, nurses would be 50% of that cost.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you find it, do you find it crazy that currently, you know, I, I fall, obviously we're talking about this because I fall a lot about the market and so every time the job support comes up everyone's like, well, the industry that's that you know jobs are up is the health industry health is the health the health industry is doing great and in my mind, I'm like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: For example, I recently read that the highest rate of children's cancer is in the middle of California, and now what's in the middle of California, all industrial progress farming.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, industrial farm.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now what do we do?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Pesticides and.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you were.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The water.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So again, it's like we.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In my field, sometimes it's a joke, it's like, Oh, job security.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Using that's an accident.

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[SPEAKER_00]: like one one drug will help you with this but then cause this problem it just keeps feeding the system.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So do you think now because your your profession now is in considered a profession right then they just take that off the books.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know which then I was like can I behave on professionally then?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey guys what's that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What exactly does that mean that your profession is no longer a profession?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm talking to a nurse here that like now they've said

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, in my simplest terms, I would say that's just like a small man who's looking basically the professions that they took that title from are predominantly female professions so it's ironic that a total misogynistic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: party that's running our government shows that these particular professions that have a strong voice and a lot of power in regards to our economy, our existence.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, of course, you don't want that power to grow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you're going to try to, you know, anyone can say that they could agree with that until

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll see you at work, because guess what, all of you are coming in, so it's kind of me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is it crazy that there's a lack of nurses like, yeah, because of Austin, they're trying to literally make you work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, but what I'm saying is it's like, we're going to want the demand of nursing for nurses is so high in this country as is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: right, like don't you want more nurses, whether it's men or women or whatever, you just want that labor to want to take up the mantle of being a nurse.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But if you're taking away the profession, cost and the the the differences is the labor is not just one dimensional.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not just a physical labor.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's 13 hour shifts where you're physically mentally and emotionally being

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then basically a lot of hospitals are giving you bare minimum.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Most healthcare workers are living paycheck to paycheck.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But people, they make good money and you're like, dude, it's not balancing out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, that's why a lot of people are like people in the medical field, work hard and play hard because there's got to be this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: balance of, you know, like we don't even get to take care of ourselves the way that we tell our patients to because it's like I haven't peed in 12 hours because there's no ability to do so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I came out here and I'll tell you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a whole other beast, but the easiest thing whenever you go is like ER nursing, there's always availability.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I want to go back to the ER now, but the reality is that I was like, I need a job.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The first thing I was doing was applying to jobs and every single job, I don't believe I experienced this in California.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Every single application, regardless of the facility, at some point in the application, and you had to fill it out was your expected compensation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm thinking I've been a nurse for almost 20 years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have two board certifications.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, this is my expected, like this is what I expect to make at base.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A bunch of them were like, we can't meet your expectations.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, is this a joke, am I not going to be able to get a job because I'm not going to work for free, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, and I say that loosely, but it's like, you know, some of the nurses that I know that are new or nurses, what they're making is what I was making in 2011.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like the economy now, like, what kind of scam is this, you know, and then they've got like, and so because they're making so low hourly rage, they're convincing them to work overtime.

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[SPEAKER_01]: for and working like crazy and they're burning out and this is this is the cyclical thing that happens with nursing is you know since you're saying like that most of these facilities you know that's across the country it's not just in you know it's everywhere that across the country is mostly now run by corporations and companies and oh it's monopoly so like it's it's a private

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[SPEAKER_00]: Most hospitals are owned by, they'll say like, oh, we're non-profit, but then we're half this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're half saints so and so and then we're half this cumglomerate that owns 100 hospitals in this whole portion of the country.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And those are the people who are taking home literally like $30 million a year, but saying that we got to take it on the chin because the economy's rough right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so that's where you have this thing where hospitals work really hard to keep unions out because they know that a hospital doesn't function without nurses.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We are the skeleton.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like, you can say whatever you want and make it seem like we're replaceable, but we're not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But unfortunately, there's enough propaganda and certain degrees of a lot of things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They can convince people that it's like, oh, if I do this, like, I don't have any power.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, we are literally what a hospital exists.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you think that a lot of this has to do with AI?

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[SPEAKER_01]: In other words, the idea that, that, hey, you know what, we're knocking on the age of, like where I can just walk in or I can do a consult online with my AI, because I have a Fitbit or whatever, that's taking care of me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so that tag on now, Apple's now offering me a nurse, that's online with my chatGPT that can be like, hey,

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know what it appears that your blood pressure is a little high and this is what you should do with your diet and here i'm mega in appointment for you and they're going to give you this prescription the moment you walk in and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: In other words, where they're thinking like you know what the nurse no longer is really a necessary profession because in the next 10, 15 years we're trying to phase them completely out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then that way, you can just be held by the way that we do cashiering at a supermarket or the way you do banking.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like getting rid of that human element, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because that's constantly what it seems like all these companies are constantly trying to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just, can we get rid of the human element?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, the thing is, is I will say that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They, you know, even our current model of education system is based off of creating factory work.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's MRI spit it out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The difference is depending on how far you go, I think, in the medical field.

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[SPEAKER_00]: As much as AI, they're using it kind of as or starting to as an ancillary kind of thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So televisits.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that really blew up during right doing code, but at the same time, you could do a televisit and I have plenty of patience when I was working the ER that were like, oh, I did a televisit in that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: that person was like, you got to get into an ER.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like someone has to put their hands on you, someone has to see you, because you can't listen to someone's lungs through a screen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can't listen to their heart.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can maybe observe certain things, which is helpful.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But even with, I mean, I remember a few years ago, again, I should be, I'm not a techie person, so I got a little, I was a little late to like the chat to be

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I remember it was shown to me and I'm like, this is crazy and they're like, ask it anything, ask it anything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I asked it something that I specifically knew about in my, you know, I have a board certification in stroke.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So stroke care and education and acute treatments specifically.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I'd asked it about a specific blockage in a location in the brain and what would be the treatment for that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: that it is a very in-depth discussion, evaluation of the patient, their history, imaging, et cetera.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it answered, and it was like, oh, the appropriate care for this would be a thrombectomy, et cetera.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I actually said back to it, we'll know that's a distal M3, and it wouldn't be safe to do that, because you can either further submerge the clot or create more damage.

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[SPEAKER_00]: that would not be an appropriate diagnosis or, you know, an appropriate plan of care.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It immediately then came back and was like, you are correct.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the reality is at the end of the day, that information was found by a human being that it's spitting out back to you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I think that as much as it is this forward movement, it's a little bit of, I think the way it's used in society,

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[SPEAKER_00]: is a little bit of basically, is it laziness versus accessibility?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So is it great that you can... Well, when you don't have a choice...

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, look at the other perspective, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, hey, most of you don't have health insurance.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So here, I'm going to give you this feedback.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, but I'll say, you go full like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Google degree.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I unfortunately, and I'm sure this is not going to be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe receive very well, but particularly emergency medicine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's scary because it makes you realize when you're having constant interaction with.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Every kind of person you can imagine it makes you realize.

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[SPEAKER_00]: People don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And like they don't know anything about their body, like sometimes you're like this is I thought this was like basic stuff like didn't take biology like you know and so that's the other thing is AI and social media and this constant technology gross where it

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[SPEAKER_00]: there is that that thought process in my head of if it's used correctly, it could be an aid for allowing you to gain more information versus people using it as a lack of meeting to know information as just a spit out, you know, spit out this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I think that people who are utilizing AI in the medical field are doing it to advance the capabilities or accessibility to people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The job that I first got out here, which I don't know if these existing California, I haven't seen one, but it is very common in rural America and different areas in the middle of America, that they have what they call freestanding emergency rooms.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Meaning it's a small building, it's just an ER, there's no hospital attached.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I worked at that, and it's literally two nurses, a doctor, for 12 hours and a radiology tech.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sounds like an everything care.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, because we're running labs, so the nurse, I ran all the labs, I checked people in, I was the respiratory therapist and so basically in my head and this particular one that I was working at was a brand new build in an area that is booming because Tesla just built something Samsung just built something so they're like in the last five years the growth of this little town.

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[SPEAKER_00]: sick people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, I mean, walk in GSWs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, what am I going to do with you, dude?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you see it upstairs to this building?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No one dials 911.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're just like, let me drive myself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let me get myself in there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we had to snake in our hallway, but a nine inch, nine foot snake.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're like, oh, that's just a porn snake.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's not venomous.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, I don't give a shit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I gotta, I gotta snake slithering down the hallway because I'm in the middle of nowhere in Texas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, but like people coming in where they were like, you gotta get ready.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, just stuff that you don't even realize that,

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're like, wait, can this isn't the United States?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You see what I'm saying?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like the story that you're saying right now, people think, oh, that takes place in Mexico.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That takes place in Central America.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That takes place out somewhere else.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're like, no, that's just, that's here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's here, up the road.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I had a woman bring in seven of her children.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, I want to test them through rabies.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, no, man, no, man, what are we talking about?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Federally, I can't say that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a law that you can't refuse anyone in the emergency room, but I'm like, wait, let's have a conversation, man, from eight months old to 12, why do you think all your children have rabies?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's talk about this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I literally had to talk her through where, honestly, it's like, she's like, we have a dog and the dog got outside.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, okay, we'll there are animals outside.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, so, let's start from there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did your dog get bit by a rabied animal?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then did your dog bite every one of your children?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then she just stared at me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, let's, what, come on, lady.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, are you for real?

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then, and the reality is, is this is also a reason why I'm like, that's seven patients walking into an ER.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like, that's seven patients.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you're like, oh, this is,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you should have googled this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, there are some things you're like, you don't, you know?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, that's an idea.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, that is the idea, a PSA of like, hey, these are the things that you should be able to look up on the internet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and get solid information on, you know, cold, cold symptoms, flu symptoms, allergy symptoms, sprains, but then at the same time, the internet has a ton of information.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so does AI.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So when you're giving them a blank statement like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I have this rash.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're like, well, it could be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I really, look.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You have cancer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's actually.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I really think that the push, the push that's happening with AI, particularly in healthcare, I see it's so hand in hand, because I'm like, it makes sense in the sense of, if your society is saying, we don't give two shifts about you getting real healthcare.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and the proof is in the pudding.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The proof is in the pudding in the sense that you don't have healthcare.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you don't have healthcare and we have.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And by the way, the healthcare that you do get is is it's not to prevent.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's after the fact.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, 100%.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not preventive care.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So everything is after the fact.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if after the fact,

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[SPEAKER_01]: you're depending on what symptom and what stage of after the fact that you're caught in, you're a lie a bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's why they, what are they call us lie abilities?

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[SPEAKER_01]: They don't call us assets.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you're a lie ability.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The more comorbidities you have, the harder it is to get.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, because the more lieable, exactly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So then you're a more money.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, there was even a video of a man online where it was like, they didn't have their insurance information.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and so they got a bill from the hospital and then they say oh well here's my insurance information and guess what that bill doubled with the insurance information they're like oh because we give a discount a cash pay and then they're like well can i go back to that bill and they were like oh no because then now that would be flawed that would be insurance fraud so you now we know you haven't insurance we have to build them and you're required to pay this which is

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[SPEAKER_00]: thousands more than what have been out of pocket.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's, I mean, it's all just so I have a friend that just recently had an ER visit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I've done this with a log of friends because I people don't know, but one of my, in my previous life, I've said this before I was an extra tech and a bill collector for the, uh,

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[SPEAKER_01]: for the facility and then I became a litigator for the facility.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So a medical fee schedule was a real thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, oh yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you get a hospital charge.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They don't tell you the doctor is a separate truck.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he sends me the bill and I look at the bill and it's $149,000.

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[SPEAKER_01]: that the hospital had the balls to send them to a cash patient, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so then he's like, hey, but they're saying I can apply for emergency health care, and like, yeah, we're not going to do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, why am I because you have a house, you have a 401k, you have stock options, and what they're going to do is they're going to deny you, and now you've given the information to the hospital.

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[SPEAKER_01]: that you can afford to pay $140,000, so the negotiation is not going to be what you think it's going to be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, so what we have to do is, and this is where people, this is where you can use

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[SPEAKER_01]: is he's telemarch and I get and I tell him like just tell him to send you the invoice for all dates of service and he did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He sent it to me and I was like cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, what are you going to do?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, I'm going to run it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, what do you mean you're going to run it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, took a picture of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But if you're attached to you, he'd be telling me, I was like, okay, I want you to pretend you're uh, you're a coder for uh, for senior cyanide.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I want you to code this with uh, the CPT codes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and then give me pricing on the CPT code's per each procedure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That bill went from 149,000 to 40 grand.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, at that point, and I looked at the bill.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's possible.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're businesses.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're not business.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So then it went to 40,000, and I was like, OK. Now, like, it's at 40,000.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let me look at this like an actual insurance adjuster.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he had an MRI of the brain with a simple MRI with the brain, and an MRI of the brain with contrast.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then a CT scan, then a regular CT scan, I don't know if CT scan of the brain with contrast, and then an MRI of the brain with contrast.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they ran the test on you six times.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Initially, I'm like, when really, maybe an MRI in a CT scan is all you really need you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the reality is, is- And the reality is, the insurance company would have never, would have never authorized six procedures.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's also, which is not necessary.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Plus, unless there's like a change in status of the patient, but there are things that that's why a lot of ER doctors are now pushed to, and this is a little, some doctors make money by volume, and they see patients that be like, that's not necessary.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not doing that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Even when patients ask, that was a little something with California.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a little like, have it your way,

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[SPEAKER_00]: why are we admitting this patient?

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[SPEAKER_00]: We've got 90 people in the waiting room.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This person does it need to be admitted.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're like, well

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why satisfaction scores?

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you're satisfaction scores alone, you're not going to get government pay at there because that used to be everyone gets an equal cut of the pie and then they factored in these other things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're like, no, you have bad reviews or you're not giving care the way this hospital is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're not going to give you that cut.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so hospitals now come down to, I mean, there's a hospital in LA that is non-profit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they'll say that and they'll say that they give assistance, but for example, they'll double the cost of what's on that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like you're saying that you're giving someone a deal, but you're lying and doubling the cost.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's exactly what that's health care in a nutshell.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll use hearing your life for more I've known, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So when I saw the bill, I was like, well, that's all medically unnecessary.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm liking if we were insurance, if I was insurance adjuster, I can guarantee you that this would be all denied.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They were, they were allowed maybe one or two of these procedures and everything else would be denied.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, so we're not gonna pay that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, and we're gonna make an offer about, and I told them, you know, I'm like, we're gonna make an offer of 10% of this fee schedule.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's like 10%, I'm like, yeah, 10%, he's like, I'm like, I mean, did we're going to write a segment and take here or leave it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you guys in a check and putting on the chat all data service and the invoice number and he's like, is that really going to work?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, well, if they cash it, they've accepted the terms.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, did you know what I heard once too that I was like, I wonder if that does work?

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's very clever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Some people say, you know, like, what are the bills that you should let, you know, go to collect, you know, but let, you know, and some people have said they're like, you know, for example.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of places, it's like, okay, they have their billing department, hospitals and good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they'll go to a certain extent to get their money and then what the most companies do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They third party it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they sell it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, for P&A.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the caveat with that is so some people, it's like say you do that and you let it go to collections.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it goes to that third party.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now when that third party starts contacting you,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I heard this very clever because you got to be careful because obviously everything's like, you know, navigation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so you could say, well, where did you get that number?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you have an itemized breakdown?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, what's that?

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[SPEAKER_00]: How do you know?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And say they say, yeah, we do, you know, all this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's like, well, that's private health care information.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So how do you, you just violate it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So now you can essentially say, I didn't give authority for you

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so, potentially, in that circumstance, could you get that expunge because now they violated your, well, you're, I, I, since I work, since I've worked on both sides of the point, I know, and this is where I told them, like, listen, they know that there's no fucking way that they're going to take you to court and collect the $149,000.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But there's no judge in this country that's going to look at that and then run it through free schedule and be like, hey, this is what the fee schedule is is 49,000 and your chart or 40,000 and you're charging a 149,000.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then he's going to run that through an actual insurance adjuster and the insurance adjuster is going to be like, this is legal, this is this, this, this and that they're going to run it through the reports and they're going to be like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Most of this we're going to have been accepted through the and through any insurance company, especially through medical because that's what the government goes through, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, I'm liking, oh, end up being about 10%, which is about $4,000.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, I'm like, and so in the end,

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[SPEAKER_01]: They will cash it because in the end, someone else does the math and says this is how much it's going to cost me to come back to this number right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The labor, the electricity, the person on the phone, the lawyer, all of that is going to get us back to this this number that we have right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And again, back to time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: time is a commodity.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How much time is it worth me coming out to come get the same thing?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they're like, he's like, is it really going to work?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, every single fucking time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Every single and it's sad because there's so many systems, especially in our country.

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[SPEAKER_00]: where, I mean, down to the highest, but down to the highest seat in the country, he's already publicly said, Oh, I, I got really good lawyers who figured out how I don't have to pay taxes and it's like.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So everyone has to start scamming the system to get through because instead of acknowledging we have a broken system and other people have changed that's like that could be a whole episode in itself of universal health care.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean there's videos online where a guy is interviewing people in London and he's like how much you think in a haller is in the United States and they're like 50 bucks and he's like more and they're like a hundred bucks and he's like 253 hundred dollars

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[SPEAKER_00]: to breathe like you have you're an asmatic you have to have that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then he goes how but an epipen and they're like six thousand dollars for a single up yeah so it's like they're like wait and they look dumbfounded and so people can be like I heard there's lines there's lines and every ER you're fucking walking into every day you got people sitting there

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[SPEAKER_00]: a lie, so that the money machine keeps going.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the reality.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I worked with the nurse in California who is Canadian.

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[SPEAKER_00]: First of all, I'll tell you right now, most people who are not Americans, no more about American history than any American I have ever met, almost to a degree, and they know the laws, cause you know what, she's like, I pay taxes, I can't vote here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not, you know, I'm here, but she goes, I'm Canadian.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So she's like, I pay my taxes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I get no benefits from that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no social security is coming her way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And she even said she goes with the differences.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She goes, you guys,

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[SPEAKER_00]: you sell something you pay taxes, you buy something you pay taxes, you work, you pay taxes, where is it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Your roads are shit, you don't get health care, you have to pay for it, like you have to pay for education, she goes, my taxes, I walk into a hospital, I'm paying maybe a hundred bucks for that entire thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I go to college, I'm spending a thousand dollars.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She goes, that I can see where my tax money's going.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You guys literally, the taxes are going up and you have nothing to show for it besides more debt, more, you know, more universal debt that were just like, I mean, what is it like, you know, they were just talking about how they wanna give, like they're asking for defense $1.6 trillion to last till November, trillion dollars.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That is insane, that's insane, but they're like, we got to do it at the same time at the same here's what's crazy about that is like that they're asking that from us, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: But they're not asking it from in video or Amazon or Apple or the oil companies or like, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Or how about this?

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is going to be controversial too, but the reality is is that guess who has universal health care?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Israel, guess who's funding that us?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we're paying for them to go to college for free, for them to go to war, for them to have health care, while we don't have it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's where our tax money's going.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is why, unfortunately, you can say AI is an advancement.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's for the uneducated, it is keeping them uneducated, because if anyone took

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[SPEAKER_00]: the resources that they had and really looked into things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's why you're starting to see, I think, even like a little bit of this younger generation, which can be a little bit of a, it's a seesaw because I, I'm starting to sound like my parents sometimes at work around like, you know, if you're phone, take your headphones at like, how do you have your headphones in taking care of somebody get, get out of here?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like professionalism and personal life are now like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't really feel like being here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, we're not at your birthday party.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do we're at work?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't like any of you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't care.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm here to work.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're here to work.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, but I came from a hard-working middle-class family who I learned work ethic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And now it's like this younger generation, which it's not technically their fault, but they're almost like, you know, I heard once that,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Boomers are like, it's all about the money and I'm like no shit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You guys are holding on to it with your skeleton claws, including the government.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, well, you guys just kicked the bucket already feel like we're exhausted.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The next generation is like, all right, I'm trying to make this money.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You guys are talking about this money.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if you just work hard, I got it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Millennials are like, what where the fuck is the money?

52:41.076 --> 52:44.318
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, and then you have been Gen Zs are like, what is money?

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're like, I got crypto coin and and Pokemon cards.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and I'm over driving and lifting my and clubbing my life through.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But they're you know so the reason why they're not working as hard or this like what is it like quiet quitting or whatever they call it you know because they're like they it's almost as if they know that there's nothing at the end of the rainbow here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No there's no light at the end of the tunnel so they're like whatever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it shows, it shows in every industry because that's the next generation, but then the what I think that and the same accord, they're also getting a little more hip to not really giving a shit as much about left and right that they're all like, this is all a scam.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, so you have some of them that are coming out, which is why a lot of them are protesting certain things like, what do we do in an Israel?

53:41.332 --> 53:43.193
[SPEAKER_00]: Why are we giving money to them?

53:43.273 --> 53:47.076
[SPEAKER_00]: We're literally, we have, I'm looking at someone eating out of a garbage can.

53:47.496 --> 53:51.099
[SPEAKER_00]: And we're complaining about homeless, but you're like, Where's the money?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Where are the homes?

53:52.040 --> 53:53.481
[SPEAKER_00]: Guess who's not struggling?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And who hasn't been?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No one living there.

53:58.384 --> 54:00.286
[SPEAKER_00]: They literally go to college for free.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Granted, you know, they're like, Okay, well, everyone does military service.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, Try it here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Go for it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: no way, won't happen, but it's unfortunate because it's the kind of thing where I feel like people are basically past their capacity to give a shit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so now you have a nation of a bunch of people who's literally like the spirit is dying and that is how you get assembly lines to work.

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[SPEAKER_00]: can push these certain narratives.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like wearing people down there, you're like, oh, you know, like how sad is it that you're like, oh, I just saw there was another shooting that were desensitized to people being murdered in the street.

54:46.773 --> 54:49.455
[SPEAKER_00]: When people are like, it is what it is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you're like, no, there are countries over here that like that happened once and it didn't happen again.

54:55.419 --> 54:57.360
[SPEAKER_00]: Cause they made XYZ choices.

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[SPEAKER_00]: As a country and a government to do what's best for its people and instead they're like, how do we control people?

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[SPEAKER_00]: We can't control people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just, you know, we were watching, I, I, I, I, all you were in Austin, you're chances are that you, the world cup, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I found it hysterical that I had some friends because I'm an Argentina fan, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Big Argentina fan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not necessarily in love with the country or the culture or or the people really But I love their soccer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love their soccer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love they're soccer.

55:34.314 --> 55:43.938
[SPEAKER_01]: I love But about the stutam, right don't I right don't know Surgeo I mean, I love them all growing up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love them still the boy they play.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't care Right the wait.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just love their soccer

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[SPEAKER_01]: and it's funny because for when it comes to Mexico, I love the people, the culture, the food, there aren't the great, I love them, I love them, but I hate their soccer, I can't stand it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Ah, right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a pleasure this too, because I've heard those that Argentinians are like, oh, we're... Oh, yes, yeah, that's why I can't stand the people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ah, right, but... As this concept of like, we're a little bit

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I'm not a little.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no, no.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I was telling this guy, people were like, I can't believe you're wearing their Argentine jersey, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, I love their soccer, do I always wanted to play there?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I always wanted to play, I was invited to go train there when I was younger, and I didn't go, and I regret it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, no, I love their soccer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then someone's like, but you know, they're racist and fascists.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, so are we?

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[SPEAKER_00]: is like, have we gotten to the point now?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, uh, it's not calling the podcast.

56:50.161 --> 56:58.605
[SPEAKER_01]: Kettle black kind of deal like, uh, like a fiery call, uh, or we, and then they're like, well, you know how's when I'm going for Spain?

56:58.645 --> 57:02.847
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, just to let you know, Spain was also fascist.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, I'm on animal farm was written about Spain.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, which, I mean, you probably say animal farm and people would be like, Yeah, oh, exactly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's a whole, that's a whole, it back to like the whole thing.

57:20.778 --> 57:32.628
[SPEAKER_01]: Where I'm like, yeah, you guys, I'm like, if you really knew, then you would know, you know, I'm like, we can't, we've lost the ability to call anyone anything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: any more like you can't be sitting here and saying oh we're better morally or you're high ground I'm like that's that's gone that I'm like well that's why I said to someone recently when I was talking about you know the current yeah the current state is like we've lost in the the higher ground wouldn't you rather a leader that has integrity no not just the leader though it's not the leader it's not the leader it's not just the leader it's it's the leadership in the

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because that's the way I see it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's I see it as you know when when I when I tell people this and they're like, well, it's not all of us I'm like it's the majority of us.

58:11.629 --> 58:16.993
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like and that's what we still don't want to like come to terms with Yeah, I'm like because we all want to say it's them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like we the people

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[SPEAKER_01]: We, the people, we, it's the, it's the, we, I'm like, we are allowing this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We are letting it happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We, we are like there's more of us than there is of them.

58:32.648 --> 58:35.070
[SPEAKER_01]: And we are sitting here waiting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: for them for someone to come and save us.

58:38.290 --> 58:39.290
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like for something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: For them to die or for them to die.

58:42.692 --> 58:44.353
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, they're like, let them be Kate.

58:44.393 --> 58:49.596
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm like, we are sitting here waiting for their good angels for them to.

58:49.957 --> 58:52.498
[SPEAKER_00]: Is one that has the majority of the billionaires living in it.

58:52.758 --> 58:57.001
[SPEAKER_00]: But yet, as, you know, it's just it's,

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's frustrating.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you know, even even in my job, like literally sometimes it's like I catch myself because you're trying to educate people and they don't wanna hear it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're argue with you about like what they read online and you're like great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So what are you doing here wasting my time?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like if I'm not a professional, let me tell you this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Take a hike.

59:20.972 --> 59:24.954
[SPEAKER_00]: because Google already let you know, figure it out, figure it out.

59:25.094 --> 59:26.375
[SPEAKER_00]: Or how would you get that drug?

59:26.395 --> 59:37.281
[SPEAKER_01]: But again, this is, this is where I'm, this is literally why I think, you know, like when my tinfoil hats on, I'm just like, all right, well, if you're not gonna provide these people with healthcare.

59:38.042 --> 59:40.823
[SPEAKER_01]: And if you blow up the bill to $494,000, $9,000, so this person now feels,

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a scam, it's literally a scam.

59:47.887 --> 59:49.629
[SPEAKER_01]: It literally is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you can't trust the mega, I can't trust of professionals.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You see where I mean, because they're just scamming me, right?

59:56.733 --> 01:00:00.556
[SPEAKER_01]: So if you've already planted that seed to a populous,

01:00:02.108 --> 01:00:07.811
[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, Apple, the good people of Apple and Google have come up with the solution for you.

01:00:07.851 --> 01:00:13.014
[SPEAKER_01]: And that guys wearing this tidbit, tidbit, and we can send you a article.

01:00:13.454 --> 01:00:15.515
[SPEAKER_00]: Amazon has capsule farmers.

01:00:15.675 --> 01:00:16.035
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

01:00:16.435 --> 01:00:16.635
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

01:00:16.675 --> 01:00:19.377
[SPEAKER_01]: And now we can we can literally prescribe you.

01:00:21.101 --> 01:00:27.968
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, now we can, now you've given us all your information and health that you're wearing all day, and now I can tell you, you need a sleeping aid.

01:00:28.789 --> 01:00:33.394
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I've heard your conversation with Guardian You and your wife, and you're not having sexual relationships.

01:00:33.574 --> 01:00:37.678
[SPEAKER_01]: Here is here's your prescription for a low doses of Iagra or Cialis.

01:00:38.299 --> 01:00:38.800
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

01:00:38.980 --> 01:00:42.664
[SPEAKER_01]: Like in other words, your health care is being slowly funneled.

01:00:43.681 --> 01:00:51.006
[SPEAKER_01]: through private corporation and getting rid of the quote and unquote scam professionals that our doctors and nurses.

01:00:51.987 --> 01:00:57.751
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, which is the same business that is also somehow has their foot into what is making you sick.

01:00:58.172 --> 01:00:58.492
[SPEAKER_01]: Correct.

01:00:58.872 --> 01:00:59.473
[SPEAKER_01]: Creating a demand.

01:00:59.493 --> 01:00:59.593
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:01:01.085 --> 01:01:08.910
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, but I don't think, again, that's when I put my tin foil hat on and people say, I'm crazy, you know, like, it can't possibly be.

01:01:08.970 --> 01:01:18.676
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, well, let's do the math and you find out how many people might start doing the math and you can ask us to Google if you want to attract your BT and say, how many Americans have health insurance?

01:01:19.437 --> 01:01:29.003
[SPEAKER_01]: And then follow the next question, how many Americans have a Fitbit or whatever it is tracking their health?

01:01:29.756 --> 01:01:46.569
[SPEAKER_01]: And once you see that number start reaching the same number, they're like, huh, yeah, or over, or you know what I mean, it's just start scoring over, you're like, huh, there's a profit margin here to be made if someone would just kind of like, well, you know what they do is they created demand.

01:01:46.689 --> 01:01:51.613
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like, even like our iPhones, where you're like, right, you get a iPhone, the new iPhone, the new iPhone.

01:01:51.633 --> 01:01:53.595
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, there's an update, there's an update.

01:01:54.237 --> 01:01:56.999
[SPEAKER_00]: is anybody reading the fine print of those updates?

01:01:57.519 --> 01:01:57.780
[SPEAKER_01]: No.

01:01:58.620 --> 01:02:09.948
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we might have talked about this on one of the previous episodes, but I've known people who have worked for Facebook or meta or different things, and they're like, whether or not you like it, they are recording you.

01:02:10.288 --> 01:02:12.309
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's in fine print of the app.

01:02:12.410 --> 01:02:20.135
[SPEAKER_00]: They are, I mean, and we know that because now you're like, oh cookies or whatever, it's like, no literally, they are recording you.

01:02:21.105 --> 01:02:31.912
[SPEAKER_00]: And now we have government who's saying we want that data and now they're going to try to use it in the sense of like are you talking about stuff on a way to talk about.

01:02:32.352 --> 01:02:33.693
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like this conversation.

01:02:34.934 --> 01:02:35.815
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, seriously.

01:02:35.955 --> 01:02:45.000
[SPEAKER_00]: And there's a video like again, I'm like, um, of Netanyahu talking about how they need to get their hands on TikTok.

01:02:51.009 --> 01:02:59.397
[SPEAKER_00]: we can filter and then we can figure out who are the people that are feeding that negative narrative for us and that's just like

01:03:00.908 --> 01:03:09.294
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's not conspiracy, that's like, and that's the thing is those people also like, I mean, the whole conversation of like, affordability is so stupid.

01:03:09.455 --> 01:03:12.877
[SPEAKER_00]: Dude, that was on your campaign trail, the entire time.

01:03:13.017 --> 01:03:15.479
[SPEAKER_00]: All you're gonna do is make things affordable again.

01:03:15.859 --> 01:03:18.541
[SPEAKER_00]: And now it's like, I don't give a shit if you can pay for anything.

01:03:18.941 --> 01:03:27.908
[SPEAKER_00]: While your son-in-law is bank, I mean, oh, he invests in a company that a day later, gets a huge,

01:03:28.955 --> 01:03:31.696
[SPEAKER_01]: By the way, by the way, he's not.

01:03:32.076 --> 01:03:33.237
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a private citizen.

01:03:34.057 --> 01:03:39.259
[SPEAKER_01]: I think I'm vote for him to be negotiating terms for me.

01:03:40.620 --> 01:03:42.440
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, I mean, that's what I'm saying.

01:03:42.480 --> 01:03:43.481
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like the kind of thing.

01:03:43.541 --> 01:03:49.083
[SPEAKER_00]: And then if you know information and you say things like that and almost play their game back with them

01:03:49.940 --> 01:04:03.425
[SPEAKER_01]: Who do you get their attention and now it's like look at this conspiracy theorist look at this person making up the right Like I said when I put on my tinfoil hat on right we can walk out But it all generates from the same place where it's like well Where's the money?

01:04:03.965 --> 01:04:05.806
[SPEAKER_01]: Who how can we again?

01:04:06.166 --> 01:04:08.767
[SPEAKER_01]: What how can we cut down liability?

01:04:09.167 --> 01:04:28.931
[SPEAKER_01]: and cut down on margin and all both those words lie ability like I've spoken to you guys before when you hear anyone talk about We need to make money on the margins, so we need to lower a liability what they're talking about is human cost Yeah Literally how can we cut down how can we cut down human interaction that I don't that we don't want to pay for?

01:04:30.152 --> 01:04:36.753
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well even now I moved out of the ER and now I'm in with this hospital called specialty procedures

01:04:37.862 --> 01:04:57.474
[SPEAKER_00]: The granted it's a smaller hospital, but they've combined three different nursing, there's imaging nursing where it's like, okay, you can be handling, you know, dealing with people who have procedures via CAT scan or MRI or whatever, and then you have interventional radiology, which is like it's all in saying kind of like cath lab, which.

01:04:58.537 --> 01:05:08.828
[SPEAKER_00]: For people listening, if you have a stroke, you're going to go to the interventional radiology department, they're going to go through your femoral artery all the way up into your brain and try to suck that clot out.

01:05:09.368 --> 01:05:12.131
[SPEAKER_00]: The cath lab is the same thing, but they go into the heart.

01:05:12.672 --> 01:05:14.734
[SPEAKER_00]: The cath lab is just cath lab.

01:05:14.774 --> 01:05:15.875
[SPEAKER_00]: It is just cardiac.

01:05:15.915 --> 01:05:16.836
[SPEAKER_00]: That is what they do.

01:05:18.000 --> 01:05:21.222
[SPEAKER_00]: interventional radiology is like more advanced imaging.

01:05:21.342 --> 01:05:24.283
[SPEAKER_00]: So those were particular, you know, procedures.

01:05:24.503 --> 01:05:31.747
[SPEAKER_00]: That department at this hospital is like, well, we're going to get you five nurses to do all of that.

01:05:32.695 --> 01:05:38.276
[SPEAKER_00]: And so they'll be like, we meet and you're running from room to room and you're like, how do we work this out?

01:05:38.316 --> 01:05:38.817
[SPEAKER_00]: How do we get?

01:05:39.257 --> 01:05:46.839
[SPEAKER_00]: And the reality is it's like, it's not just like, oh, nurses, you know, they're they're wanting more money.

01:05:47.159 --> 01:05:48.059
[SPEAKER_00]: You have doctors.

01:05:48.119 --> 01:05:55.061
[SPEAKER_00]: So a year ago, 3% of physicians were leaving the practice period, leaving the practice.

01:05:55.521 --> 01:05:59.202
[SPEAKER_00]: That is now bumped up to 5%, which you think, like, oh, that's a low amount.

01:05:59.342 --> 01:05:59.882
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not.

01:05:59.902 --> 01:06:00.282
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not.

01:06:01.568 --> 01:06:04.749
[SPEAKER_00]: It is literally like, not worth it.

01:06:04.809 --> 01:06:14.333
[SPEAKER_00]: They, they, there are people who are like, this is not, and that's the problem is people who actually care about medicine or went into this.

01:06:14.873 --> 01:06:22.576
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll tell you right now, yeah, we're not getting paid what a McDonald's worker is getting paid, but we're not going into this for the money.

01:06:22.996 --> 01:06:25.977
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, maybe if you're a dentist, but then they're also a miser of honor.

01:06:26.157 --> 01:06:27.578
[SPEAKER_00]: But, but I mean, like,

01:06:28.193 --> 01:06:29.956
[SPEAKER_00]: They're not rolling in the dough.

01:06:30.136 --> 01:06:36.505
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I have like ER doctors that are like, I've been driving a Honda Civic for 10 years.

01:06:36.545 --> 01:06:43.795
[SPEAKER_00]: Like this illusion that there's like this luxury to becoming a physician is a total facade.

01:06:44.265 --> 01:06:45.727
[SPEAKER_00]: You have doctors who are exhausted.

01:06:46.268 --> 01:06:48.811
[SPEAKER_00]: They start to do, you know, have it your way healthcare.

01:06:49.032 --> 01:06:50.293
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, oh, I don't give a shit.

01:06:50.333 --> 01:06:50.574
[SPEAKER_00]: Fine.

01:06:50.594 --> 01:06:51.695
[SPEAKER_00]: You want a prescription for this.

01:06:51.775 --> 01:06:52.316
[SPEAKER_00]: There it is.

01:06:52.877 --> 01:06:54.379
[SPEAKER_00]: You want to be admitted to the hospital.

01:06:54.539 --> 01:06:55.220
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm admitting you.

01:06:55.440 --> 01:06:55.981
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't care.

01:06:56.402 --> 01:06:59.846
[SPEAKER_00]: And it basically feeds this, you know,

01:07:00.900 --> 01:07:26.225
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that even though everything is a little bit, you know, hard to touch on the true story, that's why I think like the show The Pit gets a lot of attention because they really are trying to hit into those different aspects of like you really have no idea even if you sit sat in an ER with the other side is doing and the complexity and the weight of that like at the end

01:07:31.674 --> 01:07:35.215
[SPEAKER_00]: Who's job is walking around with that same kind of weight?

01:07:36.396 --> 01:07:38.136
[SPEAKER_00]: And now we're not professionals.

01:07:39.317 --> 01:07:42.037
[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't want to be rude, but like, but a cop is a professional.

01:07:42.658 --> 01:07:49.420
[SPEAKER_00]: Someone who goes to cop school for 13 weeks, who could not have a college education?

01:07:50.200 --> 01:07:51.801
[SPEAKER_00]: I have a bachelor's degree.

01:07:52.481 --> 01:07:58.703
[SPEAKER_00]: I have two board certifications which are national exams in a specialty, but I'm not a professional.

01:07:59.105 --> 01:08:03.007
[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't, I mean, like, cops retire in their forties.

01:08:03.327 --> 01:08:05.589
[SPEAKER_00]: My estimated retirement age is 72.

01:08:06.489 --> 01:08:25.600
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's, uh, let's flip the script a little bit and go through what, let's be optimistic and say, what, let's, let's pass, let's, let's pass the clock and let's get past like, let's say, because I believe that in 15, 15 years, this portion of American life would be, would be figured out.

01:08:26.885 --> 01:08:27.446
[SPEAKER_01]: 15 years.

01:08:27.906 --> 01:08:30.330
[SPEAKER_01]: I think this portion of American life would be figured out.

01:08:30.430 --> 01:08:32.052
[SPEAKER_01]: Bring it up.

01:08:32.072 --> 01:08:38.100
[SPEAKER_01]: AI would be, you know, already has been monetized to the point of, or it's been figured out.

01:08:39.061 --> 01:08:41.664
[SPEAKER_01]: It's what, what did you see in health care?

01:08:42.185 --> 01:08:43.887
[SPEAKER_01]: Like if we would say, okay,

01:08:45.309 --> 01:08:57.035
[SPEAKER_01]: you know, like they figured out diabetes, like to me that's like that's that's that's almost GLP kind of already kind of figures that out a little bit right just it's if that's the tip of the iceberg, you know, right?

01:08:57.595 --> 01:09:00.177
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, could that be resolved?

01:09:00.197 --> 01:09:01.437
[SPEAKER_01]: That probably could be resolved.

01:09:01.457 --> 01:09:06.360
[SPEAKER_01]: The cancer thing unfortunately we each shit so that's not going to be resolved.

01:09:06.380 --> 01:09:09.622
[SPEAKER_00]: But yes and so it's like that whole

01:09:14.878 --> 01:09:16.920
[SPEAKER_00]: One way, it's already happening.

01:09:16.940 --> 01:09:23.484
[SPEAKER_01]: Like in 15 years, does that do our, for me, from a medical professional, and let's just say, AI actually gets worked out, right?

01:09:23.544 --> 01:09:34.212
[SPEAKER_01]: Like this thing that they're actually pushing and how they're gonna, you know, get rid of basically hospital, not get rid of, but if we're to be such a low number because people are living longer, right?

01:09:34.232 --> 01:09:38.515
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I think in the end that that's a possibility where I'm like, well,

01:09:39.255 --> 01:09:40.456
[SPEAKER_01]: keep going down this road.

01:09:40.516 --> 01:09:53.863
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, yeah, people are going to die because nothing has ever in technology traditionally in the health care system has led to long-term and decreased mortality, which is the reality of things.

01:09:54.003 --> 01:09:58.545
[SPEAKER_01]: People, yeah, we have ignorant old, you know, doing things.

01:09:58.945 --> 01:10:00.546
[SPEAKER_00]: I grandmother just turned 97.

01:10:00.706 --> 01:10:01.346
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

01:10:01.867 --> 01:10:04.008
[SPEAKER_00]: Even though I'm sure she wishes she's like, uh,

01:10:10.057 --> 01:10:34.609
[SPEAKER_00]: So yes, the reality is that there are these advances, I think, we're a little bit though, I think, overzealous and, you know, looking at the best case scenario and not realizing that that takes some time, we're kind of, you know, and so there are already aspects of AI in healthcare that are changing the game and the sense of like,

01:10:35.337 --> 01:10:59.280
[SPEAKER_00]: you are having a stroke and you're in the middle of a rural area who specialize in that neurologist you're not having all these specialists sitting there right there but now they have computers that a doctor can come on the screen and you're like well how is he going to evaluate you're like he needs the assistance of someone physically being there for certain things but that camera can zoom in on your pupils

01:11:00.820 --> 01:11:04.401
[SPEAKER_00]: and check that reaction or certain things like that.

01:11:04.501 --> 01:11:24.427
[SPEAKER_00]: So they're doing it, the idea of the expansion, I think versus outside non-medical AI is driven more by medical professionals who are like, the point of, you know, even why they do their job is like, how do we, how do we cure this?

01:11:24.527 --> 01:11:25.647
[SPEAKER_00]: How do we get past this?

01:11:25.707 --> 01:11:27.968
[SPEAKER_00]: How do we, I mean, because every day when we go into work,

01:11:29.285 --> 01:11:31.247
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll see if they die or they don't die.

01:11:31.347 --> 01:11:42.356
[SPEAKER_00]: I know, the point is, is we're like, we're going in there to say no, the knowledge that we have, everything that we retain, the experience that we have.

01:11:42.396 --> 01:11:55.827
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, I can notice something by looking at someone and knowing something's wrong because that's how much experience I have and being able to just read someone's physical behavior.

01:11:56.469 --> 01:12:04.063
[SPEAKER_00]: And so if that can be, you know, adapted in a way that on a television, maybe, you know, the human eye.

01:12:05.748 --> 01:12:13.029
[SPEAKER_00]: computer might be able to zoom in and be like, I see a tremor here, or there, you know, that capacity would be huge.

01:12:13.449 --> 01:12:19.890
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, technology is, you know, the reason why, you know, advancements of imaging is the way it is.

01:12:20.051 --> 01:12:20.311
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

01:12:20.391 --> 01:12:28.992
[SPEAKER_01]: That means, that's kind of like where I'm saying do you see in, in 15 years, in other words, here we are, you and I, right, 15 years from now I'll be

01:12:34.633 --> 01:12:34.813
[SPEAKER_00]: right?

01:12:35.053 --> 01:12:53.017
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, you know, with with testosterone being injected through me through a 9v and some peptide that I'm on and some neuro, some neuro thing for my brain that's on and and whatever broscience thing that I'm still doing, you know, it's a new creatine.

01:12:53.037 --> 01:12:59.878
[SPEAKER_00]: So even if that, ethical professionals that are getting so frustrated, so we'll go with that social media.

01:13:00.867 --> 01:13:02.968
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a supplement for this, a supplement for that.

01:13:03.028 --> 01:13:07.891
[SPEAKER_00]: And like, if you look up the basics of what these supplements are and what they do, you're like, okay, great.

01:13:08.271 --> 01:13:09.152
[SPEAKER_00]: Just eat food.

01:13:09.252 --> 01:13:23.219
[SPEAKER_00]: People know you're having healthy people causing kidney injury that's irreversible because it's like you're taking synthetic things that someone is selling to you as an incentive.

01:13:24.460 --> 01:13:24.560
[SPEAKER_00]: And

01:13:25.560 --> 01:13:48.554
[SPEAKER_00]: putting it in your body without really any knowledge of what's happening we're before you would go to a professional now you have like kelly who's backed by you know whatever you look you live in that you have like a podcaster you know telling you hey you know I think this is all scammers and my response is like

01:13:50.898 --> 01:14:01.228
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I mean, you live not to not to disparage here the good people of Austin, but you live in the broccapical, brocines capital of the world.

01:14:01.629 --> 01:14:11.879
[SPEAKER_01]: And what I mean by brocines is like, you know, you gotta be on, yeah, I'd be on that, T bro, yeah, I'd be on that test, you on that human growth, what's stack are you on?

01:14:13.100 --> 01:14:25.725
[SPEAKER_01]: Are you on the Wolverine pack if you heard the Wolverine pack and you're like the Wolverine pack and they're like, yeah, dude, the Wolverine Pep-type pack are you in that the SP, whatever, but and you're just like, what's going on?

01:14:27.986 --> 01:14:39.570
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's not losing testosterone at the rate that they're diluting themselves to and how we know that is like, I don't know Put on the news

01:14:40.282 --> 01:14:41.903
[SPEAKER_00]: That's testosterone driven.

01:14:42.003 --> 01:14:42.984
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm telling you right now.

01:14:43.044 --> 01:14:48.128
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, there are women that testosterone therapy is great for them.

01:14:48.148 --> 01:15:04.882
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, but even with like, GLP ones, it is something that, oh, no, it's interesting because it's like, is it a phenomenal advancement

01:15:06.470 --> 01:15:09.251
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, and so it's not brand new.

01:15:09.431 --> 01:15:32.060
[SPEAKER_00]: It started in the same way that type type 2 diabetics because that's who we're talking about type 1 diabetics GOP1 isn't doing anything for that's type 1 diabetes is usually like it was once called childhood diabetes where it's basically your pancreas is not excreting insulin and you don't create it anymore and so you are insulin dependent for life

01:15:33.628 --> 01:15:50.541
[SPEAKER_00]: Two diabetes is usually lifestyle and diet induced which is why some people like diabetes runs in my family And I'm like, I don't have it in me to talk to you about You know, no, no, no, this is you're like like diabetes runs in your family.

01:15:50.561 --> 01:15:51.382
[SPEAKER_01]: You're like, yeah

01:15:51.582 --> 01:16:01.665
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like, how much, how much rice, how much bread, how much tortillas is in your family, and they're like, what do you mean?

01:16:02.145 --> 01:16:04.226
[SPEAKER_01]: That's like every meal, every meal?

01:16:06.827 --> 01:16:08.087
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, every meal.

01:16:08.899 --> 01:16:16.382
[SPEAKER_00]: And the reason why they're like, okay, so the biggest thing is that it started off that they're basically mimicking in a higher dose.

01:16:16.402 --> 01:16:24.265
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm saying this loosely, but a lot of oral medication that type two diabetics take are in that GOP one family.

01:16:24.285 --> 01:16:27.147
[SPEAKER_00]: That's how it functions as a diabetic medication.

01:16:27.847 --> 01:16:34.690
[SPEAKER_00]: They then had now these injections of GOP one that I think started like the early 2000s and it was the same kind of

01:16:35.720 --> 01:16:40.461
[SPEAKER_00]: mechanism as taking the pill, but now you're like, oh, you're going to give yourself a shot with each meal.

01:16:41.122 --> 01:16:45.443
[SPEAKER_00]: And so people were like, well, again, people are like, I'm wanting to give myself a shot.

01:16:45.463 --> 01:16:47.044
[SPEAKER_00]: That's how you people go into dive at a coma.

01:16:47.064 --> 01:16:48.744
[SPEAKER_00]: Because they're like, I want to prick my finger.

01:16:48.824 --> 01:16:49.384
[SPEAKER_00]: And I get it.

01:16:49.424 --> 01:16:53.005
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I'm not producing pain on myself on the daily basis.

01:16:53.045 --> 01:16:55.566
[SPEAKER_00]: But it's the kind of thing of like, this is society.

01:16:55.626 --> 01:16:57.707
[SPEAKER_00]: People don't want to struggle at all.

01:16:57.867 --> 01:17:00.528
[SPEAKER_00]: And so that didn't really take off.

01:17:00.828 --> 01:17:01.448
[SPEAKER_00]: And then I think,

01:17:02.387 --> 01:17:05.532
[SPEAKER_00]: They were able to minimize it to like a daily injection.

01:17:05.653 --> 01:17:15.048
[SPEAKER_00]: Then a weekly, and now that's where you're talking about like the late 2000s into that, we're now it's like you take a shot a month, which is what the GOP ones now are.

01:17:16.388 --> 01:17:29.734
[SPEAKER_00]: And so they found that, okay, this can help with diabetes because it affects like total systemic inflammation, which is essentially the root of almost every disease, which is why now a lot of people are like, oh, no, this is great.

01:17:29.754 --> 01:17:33.215
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm on a GOP1 because it's cardiovascular protective.

01:17:34.096 --> 01:17:43.400
[SPEAKER_00]: And so, because it also affects like the way that it affects insulin resistance and the way your body processes and utilizes insulin,

01:17:44.105 --> 01:17:51.475
[SPEAKER_00]: changes, fat components, lipid breakdown, which then lipids affect cholesterol, which create plaque in the arteries.

01:17:51.515 --> 01:17:55.140
[SPEAKER_00]: So this is where the idea of the cardiovascular health component comes in.

01:17:55.738 --> 01:18:08.452
[SPEAKER_00]: But what people don't realize, it's like, unless you're taking it long-term, say you're like, oh, I want to lose 20 pounds, which is like, what now this phenomenon is, is you have people who are like, 150 pounds and I want to be 110 pounds.

01:18:08.472 --> 01:18:13.558
[SPEAKER_00]: And so you're like, but they're like, but it's a healthy and you're like, no dude, it wasn't made for you.

01:18:13.578 --> 01:18:17.362
[SPEAKER_00]: Because first of all, you are changing the way your body is metabolic, metabolicly.

01:18:18.297 --> 01:18:18.717
[SPEAKER_00]: working.

01:18:19.678 --> 01:18:29.601
[SPEAKER_00]: And essentially, there is studies that show that, like, say, you take it, it's long-term use of GOP ones creates that cardiovascular protection.

01:18:30.181 --> 01:18:33.022
[SPEAKER_00]: Not, I'm taking it for a few months and now I'm like Superman.

01:18:33.583 --> 01:18:36.104
[SPEAKER_00]: It will literally reverse as soon as you stop taking it.

01:18:36.544 --> 01:18:43.766
[SPEAKER_00]: So, is it, is it a phenomenon that's pretty amazing for people who are morbidly obese?

01:18:46.754 --> 01:18:55.961
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a little bit of a quick sand because you have these people who, yeah, they're psychological components, whatever got someone to that weight, which could be profound.

01:18:57.702 --> 01:18:58.863
[SPEAKER_00]: How do you get them out of that?

01:18:59.123 --> 01:19:03.967
[SPEAKER_00]: So people are like, lap and surgery, but some people, it's not safe for you to go on to the knife.

01:19:04.688 --> 01:19:11.012
[SPEAKER_00]: And so it's like, you know, well, most people who did those surgeries, it was like to do that surgery, I need you to lose 75 to 100 pounds.

01:19:12.600 --> 01:19:15.341
[SPEAKER_00]: And then we can do this lap and surgery, et cetera.

01:19:15.421 --> 01:19:29.008
[SPEAKER_00]: But so now these GLP ones, people are losing weight, but I'll tell you from the ER perspective, you have people coming in and we have people who are vomiting and they're completely of abdominal pain and all this stuff and I'm like, are you now we literally have to say, are you on a GLP one?

01:19:30.296 --> 01:19:34.700
[SPEAKER_00]: because that's a component now and how we treat someone who's having a stroke.

01:19:35.200 --> 01:19:50.954
[SPEAKER_00]: It also is they change their dose and now they need their gobladder taken out because their gobladder basically is not able to function the way that the demand of this medication is pushing them to because they don't have necessarily the true deficit

01:19:52.128 --> 01:19:54.409
[SPEAKER_00]: of what that medication is used for.

01:19:54.689 --> 01:20:03.211
[SPEAKER_01]: So, would you as a medical profession professional suggest, you know, for me there, I want to drop in an additional, you know, 10 pounds, because I got our work in coming.

01:20:04.331 --> 01:20:08.973
[SPEAKER_01]: I should take a GOP one from Amazon, you know, that.

01:20:09.013 --> 01:20:11.834
[SPEAKER_00]: I doubt where I've had people come in where they were like, they bought it online.

01:20:11.954 --> 01:20:13.994
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, how are you buying online?

01:20:14.074 --> 01:20:18.035
[SPEAKER_00]: And they come in this woman literally was having a massive allergic reaction.

01:20:18.055 --> 01:20:19.476
[SPEAKER_00]: We had to innovate her, because I'm like,

01:20:20.756 --> 01:20:27.200
[SPEAKER_00]: You bought a, a vial of liquid that you don't know what it is and you started injecting it into your body.

01:20:27.961 --> 01:20:42.970
[SPEAKER_00]: So I mean, and at that point, you're kind of like, I mean, I'm like, hey, listen, let's... FIND THE HEARD FIND THE HEARD FIND THE HEARD I mean, I've had moments and this is very not nice.

01:20:43.385 --> 01:20:53.673
[SPEAKER_00]: And this is probably the most ratchet thing that I'll say today, but I have moments at my job with the way people respond, where you're trying to educate them, where they want the quick fix.

01:20:53.733 --> 01:21:04.922
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, COVID didn't do enough that you got too many moronic people that are like, oh, I read this, but it's like, would you read three sentences?

01:21:05.730 --> 01:21:10.692
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, there are, you know, or people doing their research, you're like, you don't even know what research is.

01:21:11.072 --> 01:21:13.513
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you know, I love that.

01:21:13.553 --> 01:21:17.055
[SPEAKER_01]: And then I, because when I say that, I'm like, oh, so you use the scientific method.

01:21:18.175 --> 01:21:19.616
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, right, they're like, what's that?

01:21:19.636 --> 01:21:20.216
[SPEAKER_01]: And like, yeah.

01:21:20.896 --> 01:21:23.197
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

01:21:23.797 --> 01:21:24.818
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

01:21:24.998 --> 01:21:27.099
[SPEAKER_01]: Because that's what takes, that's what you do when you do research.

01:21:27.119 --> 01:21:28.239
[SPEAKER_01]: You use the scientific method.

01:21:29.199 --> 01:21:30.400
[SPEAKER_01]: That's literally research.

01:21:31.063 --> 01:21:43.908
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, and not even saying this in a way to kind of like poke or, you know, or say, this or God, this is just factual, most research on most drugs, most medical background is done on white males.

01:21:45.349 --> 01:21:54.613
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I would also, I would also suggest for people that do like their own research, you gotta remember that anything that's coming out online.

01:21:56.047 --> 01:21:58.669
[SPEAKER_01]: is a product of selling you something.

01:21:59.950 --> 01:22:03.173
[SPEAKER_01]: They're not giving you the truth.

01:22:03.913 --> 01:22:06.675
[SPEAKER_01]: They're not giving you the pros.

01:22:07.576 --> 01:22:19.085
[SPEAKER_01]: They're not giving you the cons of using the GOP one and being like, listen, there is the cons that you are going to lose muscle muscle mass that you're not going to get back like, where?

01:22:19.425 --> 01:22:20.726
[SPEAKER_01]: It's okay, is it?

01:22:21.006 --> 01:22:23.969
[SPEAKER_01]: Because you have a fat pad that is between your feet

01:22:26.545 --> 01:22:36.367
[SPEAKER_01]: And you will lose that and then you won't be able to walk you will be walking like your fucking 80 because you've lost the fat pad at the bottom of your foot.

01:22:36.887 --> 01:22:41.408
[SPEAKER_00]: So you have all these people who are doing it for vanity reasons and not early health.

01:22:41.468 --> 01:22:49.890
[SPEAKER_00]: And then they're like, oh, and this is what I always found ironic and part of the thing why I was okay with transitioning to a place where I was like, I need to be around more real people.

01:22:50.619 --> 01:23:04.450
[SPEAKER_00]: Because at my last job, I started to get in trouble because my face expressed itself, and so my boss was like, people can tell what you're thinking and like, well, unless you're going to have my pay and insist that part of my job is to get Botox faces move.

01:23:04.510 --> 01:23:09.093
[SPEAKER_00]: So when someone says something dumb, I might have an eyebrow raised.

01:23:09.313 --> 01:23:16.379
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, but you have people essentially that so that you have people essentially that.

01:23:17.572 --> 01:23:23.397
[SPEAKER_00]: are taking GOP ones to lose weight, like a small amount of weight that they're trying to control.

01:23:24.098 --> 01:23:27.260
[SPEAKER_00]: And then they're like, oh, now my face is sunken in.

01:23:27.380 --> 01:23:28.882
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm going to get some filler.

01:23:29.642 --> 01:23:30.883
[SPEAKER_00]: Filler doesn't go anywhere.

01:23:31.124 --> 01:23:32.004
[SPEAKER_00]: What does filler do?

01:23:32.064 --> 01:23:40.251
[SPEAKER_00]: It's literally like if you talk to anyone who has filler or touch the face of someone who has filler, it feels like cement in their face.

01:23:40.451 --> 01:23:44.595
[SPEAKER_00]: And the idea is when you inject it, you're getting as close to the bone as you can.

01:23:45.412 --> 01:23:47.914
[SPEAKER_00]: But it migrates and then think about that.

01:23:47.994 --> 01:23:55.421
[SPEAKER_00]: It's almost like, if you stuff things into something that weighs something, what eventually is going to happen?

01:23:55.862 --> 01:23:59.185
[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to weigh it down, which is what then what happens.

01:23:59.245 --> 01:24:01.607
[SPEAKER_00]: And people are like, oh, now I have sunken eye.

01:24:01.627 --> 01:24:03.649
[SPEAKER_00]: Let me put more filler because it's like,

01:24:04.049 --> 01:24:13.153
[SPEAKER_00]: That's happening because you are pulling down the muscle, you're also atrophing the muscle, which now does it have the capacity to do what it's meant to do.

01:24:13.834 --> 01:24:27.840
[SPEAKER_00]: Even with, you know, like Botox Botox, you know, some people are like, oh, it's, you know, it has medical things that treats actual medical conditions like migraines, TMJ, certain things that it can be very helpful for.

01:24:28.841 --> 01:24:37.546
[SPEAKER_00]: It does wear off, but again, it's sometimes I joke where people are like, you know, they're eating organic, but I'm like, do you know what the toxin Botox means?

01:24:39.347 --> 01:24:40.327
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a toxin.

01:24:41.068 --> 01:24:46.811
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a toxic or a litic poison that paralyzes temporarily your muscles.

01:24:47.191 --> 01:24:52.214
[SPEAKER_00]: But the reality is, is I think of this with like a Jurassic Park like life finds a way.

01:24:52.929 --> 01:25:10.987
[SPEAKER_00]: You have some of those people are like, oh, I got Botox and then you're like, yeah, that's why you got a wrinkle all the way up here by your, your hairline because your face is a bunch of muscles dude, like unless you freeze your entire face, which then people end up doing, but then they don't realize that you are now.

01:25:12.328 --> 01:25:13.710
[SPEAKER_00]: They're making money because

01:25:15.249 --> 01:25:17.111
[SPEAKER_00]: not mussels that don't move.

01:25:17.151 --> 01:25:18.472
[SPEAKER_00]: If you don't use it, you lose it.

01:25:18.893 --> 01:25:19.994
[SPEAKER_00]: Same thing with working out.

01:25:20.234 --> 01:25:23.237
[SPEAKER_00]: So if you're not using that muscle, it is atrophying.

01:25:23.557 --> 01:25:30.124
[SPEAKER_00]: So as that Botox wears off, you have a more fatigued, after-feed face.

01:25:30.784 --> 01:25:31.885
[SPEAKER_00]: So what do you need to do?

01:25:32.126 --> 01:25:33.227
[SPEAKER_00]: Go get more Botox.

01:25:34.354 --> 01:26:02.828
[SPEAKER_01]: Go in, so it is, it's like, like I said, in 15 years, once the bro science has all come to, to, to Jesus moment, right, once the bro science and the GPLs have all had their Jesus moment, like in five years, once the research is really truly out and there's hearings about fucking, you know what I mean, the millennials are going to be suing them left and right because fucking, I can't walk, I can't do this fucking, it's all going to happen, right?

01:26:03.342 --> 01:26:05.903
[SPEAKER_00]: Well Parkinson's is supposed to double in the next 10 years.

01:26:07.464 --> 01:26:27.935
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not even exaggerating, we're putting toxins that are getting into our brain that are inducing Parkinsonianism, so not necessarily full-blown Parkinson's, but you know, these disorders that are mimicking Parkinson's because people like your skin is the biggest organ on your body.

01:26:33.613 --> 01:26:59.902
[SPEAKER_00]: If you were breaking that down, I even recently heard a dermatologist talking about because of online and all this stuff, young kids are starting to like their skin care routine and they're like, they're putting shit on their face on immature skin on things that it's not meant to do and they're seeing increase acne at like skin issues, eggs amount because they're like, because they're seeing online that people are like, this is my 10 step skin care plan.

01:27:02.124 --> 01:27:02.745
[SPEAKER_00]: You're 11.

01:27:02.785 --> 01:27:03.326
[SPEAKER_00]: You're 12.

01:27:03.366 --> 01:27:13.805
[SPEAKER_00]: You don't need to be putting that stuff on your face or anywhere and what you're actually doing is injuring this organ and doing the opposite of what, you know, you're being sold that it'll do.

01:27:14.533 --> 01:27:41.442
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just, it's so, again, back to the, the, the, the, the utopia portion of of of what's going to happen here in 15 years, like I said, I keep thinking 10 years, like 10 years, this should be all be in the wash. And then it should be, I think that what that means is that, you know, as things advance and there are these amazing factors of it,

01:27:42.334 --> 01:27:45.155
[SPEAKER_01]: Because in the end, look, GOP-1, in the end, GOP-1.

01:27:45.175 --> 01:27:52.839
[SPEAKER_01]: If I were to put money and be like, as an investor, I'm be like, what's going to make a better societal impact?

01:27:52.899 --> 01:27:56.181
[SPEAKER_01]: GOP-1's are AI, because that's kind of like we're at right now, right?

01:27:56.861 --> 01:28:07.306
[SPEAKER_01]: I would say GOP-1's with combination of AI, meaning like, let's call it smart medicine, or smart, smart pharmaceuticals.

01:28:09.313 --> 01:28:12.975
[SPEAKER_01]: Those will have a better impact on humanity than AI by itself.

01:28:14.636 --> 01:28:29.186
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah, I mean, I mean, the reality is is that I get curious on whether or not all these advancements, some of them are only possible to a degree in

01:28:30.457 --> 01:28:53.655
[SPEAKER_00]: in that lab and like, you know, you're making this drug, you're figuring the stuff out you're doing these studies at the same time, which you have some people that they'll say like this is hippie dippy and this is where I get curious if the pendulum will swing where you realize that the origin of the thought process of that pill came from an herbal origin.

01:28:55.500 --> 01:29:06.709
[SPEAKER_00]: And so it can sometimes be this idea of you know, like have we gone so far forward that we're forgetting where no pun intended, like the root is.

01:29:07.410 --> 01:29:19.300
[SPEAKER_00]: And so I think that as we're watching these advancements unfold, it will get to a point where we realize like, okay, this balance isn't there anymore.

01:29:19.560 --> 01:29:21.482
[SPEAKER_00]: How is this balance going to shift?

01:29:21.922 --> 01:29:23.824
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think potentially it might

01:29:25.385 --> 01:29:52.082
[SPEAKER_00]: In lighten us or wake us up out of just this idea of quick fixes and actually utilizing resources for that a resource not the the fix all and so with AI even down to like you know plastics you know people like plastics are bad yes we have a lot of things in our in our you know environment or things were like oh plastic this plastic that

01:29:53.202 --> 01:30:03.909
[SPEAKER_00]: When they were able to advance plastics, that changed healthcare in a whole new degree of the capacity of implantations and things that they could do in medicine because of plastic.

01:30:04.389 --> 01:30:08.351
[SPEAKER_00]: But then it's like they're, you know, it can seep into different things.

01:30:08.632 --> 01:30:18.958
[SPEAKER_00]: But so I think that then the things that it's seeped into that it's not an advantage or things that are adding to our lives or society, they're saying like we're drinking microplastics.

01:30:22.977 --> 01:30:39.064
[SPEAKER_00]: health care and the modern medicine that we have would take a huge hit because it's like no we're able to do this procedure because it's a piece so I think though but we've been able to say like all right maybe this doesn't need to be plastic maybe we didn't

01:30:47.308 --> 01:30:54.012
[SPEAKER_00]: And so, GLP ones, the reality is, is it a game changer for diabetics and obese people, a hundred percent?

01:30:54.652 --> 01:30:57.373
[SPEAKER_00]: Like you're literally, you're giving them life.

01:30:58.394 --> 01:30:58.874
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

01:30:58.914 --> 01:31:05.798
[SPEAKER_01]: Because, listen, for what you say, it was diabetic, part two, or diabetic, be or dead.

01:31:06.558 --> 01:31:07.098
[SPEAKER_00]: diabetes.

01:31:07.759 --> 01:31:07.959
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

01:31:08.299 --> 01:31:09.340
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you have to get insulin.

01:31:09.480 --> 01:31:09.700
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

01:31:10.381 --> 01:31:11.001
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, type one.

01:31:11.502 --> 01:31:27.354
[SPEAKER_00]: That type one or type two type one is essentially what diabetes was period and then type two came into existence because we're like, wait, type one diabetes is where your body somehow your pancreas stops producing insulin, which you need to live.

01:31:28.554 --> 01:31:54.806
[SPEAKER_00]: You can't live without your pancreas, so there's also all these studies and people who are trying to figure out to make artificial pancreases, but that's type 1 diabetes, which you can't reverse type 2 diabetes is which if you wanted to, this is kind of another thing that I could add on because now there's something that some people in the medical field are calling type 3 diabetes, which I'll explain to you, but type 2 is something that developed honestly

01:31:57.365 --> 01:32:15.053
[SPEAKER_00]: because I mean like in like we're going like 50s, 60s because of diet and lifestyle changes that that is basically you are creating harm to your body that now you have an organ that's not working appropriately and now you need injections of insulin.

01:32:15.733 --> 01:32:22.296
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes and so the reality is is that type two diabetics if they really wanted to they could

01:32:24.073 --> 01:32:47.759
[SPEAKER_00]: You have some who are saying, you know, I'm a type two diabetic, but I control it with diet, meaning they don't need medication because they've did their lifestyle that now they could get to the point where they're A1C, which is the true blood test that we look at to determine not just like a glucose level, but it an A1C level looks at what your sugar, your glucose levels are over a span of about three months, like how they range.

01:32:48.379 --> 01:32:52.760
[SPEAKER_00]: And so if you're below a certain number, you're really not considered diabetic, but that's how they

01:32:54.621 --> 01:33:01.752
[SPEAKER_01]: My point being about the GOP ones and type 2 diabetes is like once you start injecting insulin You're like, well, I'm okay.

01:33:01.772 --> 01:33:09.003
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm injecting insulin and not knowing that the insulin is going to affect your kidneys and That it's just a matter of time

01:33:09.813 --> 01:33:26.804
[SPEAKER_01]: body is connected just a matter of time that you end up in dialysis right and even a kidney right so and I can speak about this because my dad that's that's literally my dad story and then he died of you know kidding not well not kidney failure but one lead to the heart and then he

01:33:34.489 --> 01:33:49.318
[SPEAKER_01]: It's all crazy and you think the thought of like that that GLP-1 would have been an offer to my dad It probably would have saved his life, right so therefore that I'm like, oh, that's that's a serious medical advancement And so I can only think 15 years from now.

01:33:50.159 --> 01:33:51.840
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah at this rate

01:33:53.084 --> 01:33:59.166
[SPEAKER_01]: And now that GOP ones have been, because anything, by the way, GOP one is considered a peptide.

01:33:59.426 --> 01:34:09.530
[SPEAKER_01]: And so that's what has brought out all the brosigns regarding peptides is due to that one peptide.

01:34:09.570 --> 01:34:14.032
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm thinking in 15 years, once the brosigns have hit off.

01:34:16.476 --> 01:34:17.937
[SPEAKER_01]: has gone through its cycle.

01:34:18.217 --> 01:34:18.918
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

01:34:19.058 --> 01:34:20.779
[SPEAKER_01]: Because ProSign goes through a cycle.

01:34:20.979 --> 01:34:23.380
[SPEAKER_01]: Like it was all about stacks.

01:34:24.481 --> 01:34:26.842
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, like, oh, you got a beyond task.

01:34:26.882 --> 01:34:32.906
[SPEAKER_01]: You got to be on whatever other abaric steroid and a human growth hormone.

01:34:32.926 --> 01:34:34.387
[SPEAKER_01]: And then you got to stack down.

01:34:35.282 --> 01:34:36.143
[SPEAKER_00]: It's hip workout.

01:34:36.163 --> 01:34:37.143
[SPEAKER_00]: You want to lose weight?

01:34:37.383 --> 01:34:38.744
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, all that.

01:34:38.905 --> 01:34:39.385
[SPEAKER_01]: All that.

01:34:39.705 --> 01:34:40.866
[SPEAKER_01]: It goes on its cycling.

01:34:40.906 --> 01:34:48.431
[SPEAKER_01]: Now we're on the cycle of while you just kind of be in a legal test and some some peptides and you'll be fine, right?

01:34:48.491 --> 01:34:50.613
[SPEAKER_01]: But as long as you don't grow a tail.

01:34:52.454 --> 01:34:53.835
[SPEAKER_00]: But then people don't realize, too.

01:34:53.895 --> 01:34:58.118
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like you mess with one hormone that they communicate.

01:34:58.258 --> 01:35:03.342
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like it's it's not just like we're just doing something over here, but I think

01:35:04.067 --> 01:35:16.755
[SPEAKER_00]: where we'll see a shift is a profound, I would love to say, hopefully a massive decrease in cardiovascular disease, which is the number one killer in the United States.

01:35:18.436 --> 01:35:28.423
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, for example, stroke is usually the greatest risk factor for either type of stroke, hemorrhagic, or a schemeic, and a schemeic is a blocked artery, is high blood pressure.

01:35:29.407 --> 01:35:36.170
[SPEAKER_00]: Hi, blood pressure is induced by, to muscle and takes you of diets, certain things like that.

01:35:36.190 --> 01:35:38.792
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's an inflammatory response.

01:35:39.512 --> 01:35:49.917
[SPEAKER_00]: And so that's why I was saying GOP ones that cardiovascular health, it's not just cardiovascular because your blood vessels, blood vessels feed everything in your body.

01:35:50.999 --> 01:35:57.369
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's why I tell people I'm like a heart attack is a blocked artery in the heart, blocked artery in the brain is a stroke.

01:35:57.810 --> 01:36:06.403
[SPEAKER_00]: So if you're affecting your heart and cardiovascular health, you're also increasing the health of the vasculature that feeds your brain.

01:36:07.172 --> 01:36:27.956
[SPEAKER_00]: And so if we're able to move in that direction, I think that what I would hope is that these advancements that are, you know, this broad science, if you will, what I do see as a positive is that people are investigating because they're like this ain't it.

01:36:28.236 --> 01:36:30.897
[SPEAKER_00]: We're we're not healthy the way we want to be.

01:36:31.742 --> 01:36:38.487
[SPEAKER_00]: is it the food like you're seeing more like I'll tell you in Texas like there are farms that are like you can come by meat right here.

01:36:38.507 --> 01:36:42.930
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I said, you're in the capital of bro science where I mean, don't get me wrong.

01:36:42.950 --> 01:36:46.213
[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of it is is miss informed, you know what I mean?

01:36:46.313 --> 01:36:49.375
[SPEAKER_00]: But it's a little bit of information that they'll like.

01:36:49.755 --> 01:36:49.996
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

01:36:50.056 --> 01:36:55.139
[SPEAKER_00]: And that problem is they'll take like a little you know grain of sand and think that they can

01:37:00.723 --> 01:37:08.947
[SPEAKER_00]: They're, you see shifts in things that as people are learning about something, if it's something that really intrigues them.

01:37:10.228 --> 01:37:25.136
[SPEAKER_00]: What I hope, and that's where, you know, if I'm trying to be positive with AI, I would hope that people would use it as a resource, not as like a replacement for their own brain, but that it's, it's opening an avenue of trying to figure out

01:37:26.464 --> 01:37:29.245
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, like that just peaked my curiosity.

01:37:29.425 --> 01:37:35.186
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so people are talking about peptides and now it's like, okay, well, what else about that or like hormone replacement?

01:37:35.286 --> 01:37:43.787
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, if you really learn about hormone replacement, you're going to have to learn a lot more than just testosterone because there's so much more to it.

01:37:44.067 --> 01:37:46.968
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, your thyroid is hormones.

01:37:47.048 --> 01:37:52.189
[SPEAKER_00]: That's how that functions that's, you know, so essentially it's like you have to

01:37:53.839 --> 01:38:16.890
[SPEAKER_00]: If it opens the door to people learning more about how their body works, because that's something that I said in the beginning, I'm like, it's so madening sometimes that people will come into a hospital and you're like, how do you not even understand this basic function of how you're literally alive right now?

01:38:22.825 --> 01:38:25.787
[SPEAKER_00]: the complexity down to like the mitochondria stuff.

01:38:25.827 --> 01:38:27.868
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to go broken for his advice.

01:38:28.488 --> 01:38:34.011
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I appreciate that sometimes like Theo Vaughn will be like, hey, listen, that's not, that's not our wheelhouse, man.

01:38:34.051 --> 01:38:36.192
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I can read about it, but like I don't know, man.

01:38:36.712 --> 01:38:46.157
[SPEAKER_00]: But it's, it's, I'm hoping that what is happening is the capacity for people to learn is expanding.

01:38:46.278 --> 01:38:48.779
[SPEAKER_00]: And some of that learning will be by,

01:38:50.447 --> 01:39:04.975
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just, it's like, I am telling you as a man, as a man, at my age, the amount of brosign's being tossed by being sold to me, I got at, not just, just let it.

01:39:06.094 --> 01:39:30.189
[SPEAKER_01]: It is, it is so crazy where I'm like, man, the amount of, the amount of bro science being sold, the amount of financial advice being sold by, both non-experience, it's just bro finance, it's bro finance, and bro science, and bro relationship advice where you're just here, you're constantly looking around being like, what the fuck is going on?

01:39:31.679 --> 01:39:43.043
[SPEAKER_00]: I know it's a huge thing because it's like, and I wish, I mean, I will say, I would, I would love that, even including myself that women had more financial education.

01:39:43.103 --> 01:39:53.567
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like, unfortunately, there are certain topics that end up being a little more gender-specific norms, you know, like women are, like, are not growing out on the same thing.

01:39:56.558 --> 01:39:57.178
[SPEAKER_00]: Eyes are not like.

01:39:57.218 --> 01:40:03.279
[SPEAKER_01]: You mean, you guys are not talking about the Pokemon card that you should be getting in the Wolverine peptides that you should be on.

01:40:04.279 --> 01:40:09.920
[SPEAKER_00]: Like Bitcoin, I know that it has been around for a minute.

01:40:09.940 --> 01:40:15.341
[SPEAKER_00]: I recently actually was watching another podcast where it's killing me that I don't know his name.

01:40:15.401 --> 01:40:18.802
[SPEAKER_00]: He's British, but he's basically like the British Warren Buffett.

01:40:19.502 --> 01:40:22.522
[SPEAKER_00]: Who he was like, okay, this is where society is right now.

01:40:22.562 --> 01:40:23.643
[SPEAKER_00]: This is what we're looking at.

01:40:24.043 --> 01:40:25.563
[SPEAKER_00]: What would be your advice for people?

01:40:27.163 --> 01:40:28.824
[SPEAKER_00]: get your money out of U.S. stock.

01:40:28.924 --> 01:40:30.745
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

01:40:30.925 --> 01:40:32.587
[SPEAKER_00]: And then he goes, and what do you think of Bitcoin?

01:40:32.607 --> 01:40:33.427
[SPEAKER_00]: He goes, I don't.

01:40:33.607 --> 01:40:34.048
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't.

01:40:34.148 --> 01:40:35.569
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about.

01:40:36.329 --> 01:40:36.589
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

01:40:36.909 --> 01:40:45.075
[SPEAKER_00]: And so, and this is a man who, his history has produced, like, or he has, what's the word I want to say?

01:40:45.135 --> 01:40:49.818
[SPEAKER_01]: All you gotta look at is crypto is he's got to look, who's selling it to you?

01:40:50.238 --> 01:40:52.720
[SPEAKER_01]: Who's selling that product?

01:40:53.542 --> 01:41:00.425
[SPEAKER_01]: And if it isn't the following people who are selling it, then you should invest in a financial product.

01:41:00.465 --> 01:41:06.207
[SPEAKER_01]: So if it isn't, if you don't see the Fed, if you don't see Bank of America,

01:41:08.530 --> 01:41:32.240
[SPEAKER_01]: Mutual Washington Mutual if you're going to see the big banks black rock if you're going to see these Institutions sell trying to sell you big coin if they're like doing the opposite chase if they're doing the opposite There's like yeah, we don't want anything to do with it Those are that's your cue and if you see people like you'll bro you'll know about big coin

01:41:39.092 --> 01:41:44.246
[SPEAKER_01]: I go back, I think you should be like, yeah, no, this, this is a fucking scam.

01:41:46.081 --> 01:41:53.783
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, and but it's like this crazy thing of again, a little bit of the frustration of like, you know, cheap thrills.

01:41:54.023 --> 01:41:56.303
[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's not, you know, I look at it differently.

01:41:56.343 --> 01:42:08.946
[SPEAKER_01]: You see, I look at it like, back to the health care when you don't have a choice and back to like being feeling stuck, like, I gotta do something to try to get myself and advancement and edge somewhere down the line.

01:42:08.986 --> 01:42:15.187
[SPEAKER_01]: So whether it's the Wolverine, fucking peptide and the GOP one that I gotta take along with,

01:42:15.867 --> 01:42:30.841
[SPEAKER_01]: I got to put my money, my $150 into not Bitcoin because it's too expensive, but, you know, this Pokemon coin that's coming out, you know, then that's what I'm going to do because the stock market's way too expensive for me.

01:42:30.861 --> 01:42:31.902
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm never going to buy a house.

01:42:31.942 --> 01:42:35.805
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to, so I got to do something as a bro.

01:42:36.186 --> 01:42:38.648
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I'm telling you, bro, this is what you got to do.

01:42:41.922 --> 01:42:45.065
[SPEAKER_01]: It's the world that you're living in that you're just like, well, everyone else is doing it.

01:42:45.105 --> 01:42:51.292
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's like if you use the stock market the way, you know, like Elon Musk, they're like, oh, he's a trillionaire.

01:42:51.372 --> 01:42:53.213
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like he's really not.

01:42:53.254 --> 01:42:54.054
[SPEAKER_01]: He's really not.

01:42:54.355 --> 01:43:03.123
[SPEAKER_00]: He can invest it in stock that he's able to now if that stock has a strong standing, you can now go to a bank.

01:43:03.163 --> 01:43:04.124
[SPEAKER_00]: And buy a toast.

01:43:05.345 --> 01:43:06.986
[SPEAKER_00]: Give me $10,000.

01:43:07.747 --> 01:43:08.027
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

01:43:08.247 --> 01:43:09.187
[SPEAKER_00]: Again, the stock.

01:43:09.868 --> 01:43:12.889
[SPEAKER_00]: If the stock continues to grow, go back, give me another $10,000.

01:43:12.909 --> 01:43:13.109
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

01:43:15.035 --> 01:43:17.957
[SPEAKER_00]: You're just getting money and that that's what's happening.

01:43:18.057 --> 01:43:20.418
[SPEAKER_00]: If it drops, they're just going to take from the stock.

01:43:20.438 --> 01:43:22.120
[SPEAKER_00]: They're not going to ask you for 10 grand back.

01:43:22.680 --> 01:43:29.544
[SPEAKER_00]: But the thing is, is again, it's like, that's, do you learn enough that you know how to use that?

01:43:29.584 --> 01:43:35.008
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I don't even know the complexity of this, but we're a lot of people talk about, you know, they're like life insurance is supposed to be used when you're alive.

01:43:36.331 --> 01:43:36.671
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

01:43:36.731 --> 01:43:40.392
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, like it comes such a minutia back to the same thing, right?

01:43:40.412 --> 01:43:45.693
[SPEAKER_01]: Where it becomes such a minutia of information, like where you're saying, like, that's why people are so fucking doomed scrolling.

01:43:46.153 --> 01:43:50.073
[SPEAKER_01]: The information is just on everything.

01:43:50.413 --> 01:43:54.694
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's a little bit of a lot, a little bit of a lot.

01:43:54.714 --> 01:43:59.675
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, like, you know, a little bit of the Middle East.

01:44:00.655 --> 01:44:01.335
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it's a lot.

01:44:01.375 --> 01:44:03.856
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a big subject, but you just know a little bit of it.

01:44:05.472 --> 01:44:07.053
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, a little bit of it where there's one.

01:44:07.073 --> 01:44:09.994
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, a little big of GOP ones, right?

01:44:10.414 --> 01:44:11.274
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's a lot.

01:44:11.574 --> 01:44:13.875
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, a little big of peptides, but it's a lot.

01:44:14.275 --> 01:44:16.376
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, a little big of finance, but it's a lot.

01:44:16.396 --> 01:44:21.878
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, a little bit, and it's these little bits that you're trying to, where I'm like, back.

01:44:22.238 --> 01:44:24.819
[SPEAKER_00]: That it starts to inflate and you're like,

01:44:25.950 --> 01:44:51.266
[SPEAKER_01]: you're not a direct of all trades no no one is it's an impossibility when you know when I have these conversations with my mom which I think it's a steric because you jump a down in generation you know to a rumor and she's like you know all I had to do was just work one job and put money in the bank and drink a glass of wine a day and you know breakfast there was two eggs and that they say that the income would have to be ten times.

01:44:52.855 --> 01:45:14.698
[SPEAKER_00]: what we make now to be able to afford a home the way they did in the boomers error, which is literally impossible because my mom is like you make a good salary, I don't know what you do with your money, and I'm like buying groceries, you know, and I then joke, I love my parents, they know I love them, but I, you know, my dad's a good sport about it, but I'm like listen, you know what we're all doing?

01:45:15.722 --> 01:45:19.044
[SPEAKER_00]: We're waiting for you boomers who have all the money to kick the bucket, dude.

01:45:19.484 --> 01:45:20.244
[SPEAKER_00]: You guys are caught.

01:45:20.485 --> 01:45:21.645
[SPEAKER_00]: You're in government.

01:45:21.685 --> 01:45:25.567
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, even as a Democrat, I'm like fine-steen.

01:45:25.607 --> 01:45:27.188
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, she's rolling in and a wheelchair.

01:45:27.208 --> 01:45:28.429
[SPEAKER_01]: All of you.

01:45:28.589 --> 01:45:32.671
[SPEAKER_01]: All of you in government need to get the fuck out.

01:45:32.711 --> 01:45:41.116
[SPEAKER_01]: Dude, if you're 65 years old and we're in the age of, again, AI and GLP ones, you can no longer govern me.

01:45:41.396 --> 01:45:43.797
[SPEAKER_01]: You have no idea what's going to happen in the next 15 years.

01:45:47.847 --> 01:46:11.975
[SPEAKER_00]: you got to go it this isn't your wheelhouse anymore you this world that you're leaving me you're making the rules for a world that you're not going to be in that's the world you're going to make the rules on a world that's not the world that you're thinking it is anymore and you're looking at us being like you guys don't know and I think that genuinely a lot of us are kind of like unfortunately just being like oh at the clock

01:46:12.215 --> 01:46:39.549
[SPEAKER_00]: So in 15 years, right, he's dead, hopefully because all these is that it's this, because for them, the reality was is that their parents came from burrows, like I grew up in New York, most people lived in burrows and you have like that whole complexity of like, then there was this idea of like, oh my god, you can make money and buy a home and have land.

01:46:40.593 --> 01:46:45.338
[SPEAKER_00]: And then even with that, I feel like everything that happens, it's just like, allow.

01:46:46.610 --> 01:47:12.613
[SPEAKER_00]: Allow us to have the reality of like the pendulum will swing because even when there are, you know, not that everything is not as great as it can be like, you know, GOP ones has a profound effect on health for a lot of people and it is changing their lives versus well, you can't cherry pick the accessibility of that now because now it's also created a market where

01:47:12.973 --> 01:47:14.734
[SPEAKER_00]: you know, for example, Viagra.

01:47:15.235 --> 01:47:21.979
[SPEAKER_00]: Viagra was found because they were testing a new blood pressure medication and they were like, all these dudes are getting erections.

01:47:22.039 --> 01:47:22.760
[SPEAKER_00]: What's going on?

01:47:22.800 --> 01:47:23.800
[SPEAKER_00]: And they were like, guess what?

01:47:24.221 --> 01:47:25.862
[SPEAKER_00]: We don't even have the blood pressure medication.

01:47:25.902 --> 01:47:34.208
[SPEAKER_00]: We just hit a jack mind of, you know, of, we, what man doesn't want to have an erection, you know, before that they were getting penal implants.

01:47:34.248 --> 01:47:35.128
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm not even joking.

01:47:35.188 --> 01:47:36.029
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm plenty of them.

01:47:36.709 --> 01:47:37.230
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like,

01:47:38.146 --> 01:47:44.429
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, and that's a whole other story where I'm like, listen, if I can't have a baby after a certain point, there's a reason your guy doesn't work anymore.

01:47:44.449 --> 01:47:45.890
[SPEAKER_00]: So let's sit down.

01:47:45.950 --> 01:47:54.474
[SPEAKER_00]: That's why I'm like, your testosterone is lowering, or he's in, please, you know, can they then evaporate?

01:47:54.774 --> 01:47:57.055
[SPEAKER_00]: Metapons, like, get out of here.

01:47:58.195 --> 01:47:59.336
[SPEAKER_00]: We're going through it.

01:47:59.376 --> 01:48:00.896
[SPEAKER_00]: You guys, you know,

01:48:06.999 --> 01:48:17.964
[SPEAKER_00]: when women are PMSA, women have men also have all the hormones that women have, but at a very, very, very, very, very lower rate.

01:48:18.044 --> 01:48:25.647
[SPEAKER_00]: So men have estrogen in them, but it's not functioning the same way as it is in females and the same with testosterone.

01:48:25.687 --> 01:48:30.289
[SPEAKER_00]: Women have testosterone in their body and it fluctuates as hormones do in stages.

01:48:31.050 --> 01:48:35.351
[SPEAKER_00]: And when your testosterone is at its peak is when

01:48:37.552 --> 01:48:50.260
[SPEAKER_00]: So when women aren't being a bitch, they're actually being a psychodic because that is why where the rage of PMS comes from is this surge, it's a drop of estrogen and a surge of testosterone.

01:48:50.761 --> 01:48:57.085
[SPEAKER_00]: And so thinking about things, I mean, I'm from New York the next one, which was very big deep.

01:48:57.790 --> 01:49:01.212
[SPEAKER_00]: I had a co-worker who was from Texas that was in New York at the time.

01:49:01.252 --> 01:49:03.072
[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, how was it?

01:49:03.092 --> 01:49:04.813
[SPEAKER_00]: She's like, it's kind of scary.

01:49:05.273 --> 01:49:10.235
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's like, guys are running around ripping the shirts off just screaming.

01:49:10.255 --> 01:49:13.737
[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, is it interesting that like, what is that?

01:49:13.877 --> 01:49:17.479
[SPEAKER_00]: Is it testosterone that men are like, I'm so happy I'm going to sit shit on fire.

01:49:18.079 --> 01:49:19.700
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm so mad I'm going to sit shit on fire.

01:49:19.720 --> 01:49:20.620
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to flip something.

01:49:20.640 --> 01:49:24.942
[SPEAKER_01]: You're like, uh, it isn't the smartest hormone.

01:49:26.433 --> 01:49:49.097
[SPEAKER_00]: Is it the smartest hormone it is in the smartest hormone no, but that's very reactive hormone I get I get why men don't want their testosterone to drop But the reality is is that Everything It's the way nature is and it's like unless women should be having babies at 80 years old

01:49:49.802 --> 01:49:51.703
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a reason that things drop off.

01:49:51.863 --> 01:50:00.406
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like, could you use it to a degree to help like symptomatically like women take hormone replacement because they're like, I feel crazy.

01:50:00.466 --> 01:50:01.707
[SPEAKER_00]: My body is out of whack.

01:50:01.767 --> 01:50:03.888
[SPEAKER_00]: And they're not trying to like reverse time.

01:50:03.928 --> 01:50:08.750
[SPEAKER_00]: They're just trying to ease the change that that affects on the body versus men.

01:50:08.810 --> 01:50:11.751
[SPEAKER_00]: I think are like, oh, hold on.

01:50:12.031 --> 01:50:12.832
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's all like it.

01:50:12.892 --> 01:50:13.632
[SPEAKER_01]: We're just holding on.

01:50:14.355 --> 01:50:14.715
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.

01:50:15.055 --> 01:50:15.975
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:50:16.015 --> 01:50:19.436
[SPEAKER_01]: Nurse Ratchet, it's been a pleasure having you on.

01:50:19.836 --> 01:50:21.016
[SPEAKER_01]: And we didn't get through the list.

01:50:21.956 --> 01:50:25.077
[SPEAKER_00]: But we, we, we, we had a, we kind of dipped around.

01:50:25.097 --> 01:50:26.077
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:50:26.757 --> 01:50:33.279
[SPEAKER_01]: And hopefully, you'll come back on and we'll discuss the rest of the list on there, because the rest of it's kind of good.

01:50:33.379 --> 01:50:34.519
[SPEAKER_01]: I just, we just didn't have that.

01:50:34.579 --> 01:50:36.599
[SPEAKER_00]: It is, too, actually, and I didn't have notes on that.

01:50:36.639 --> 01:50:39.940
[SPEAKER_00]: But I, I feel like we, we hit on topics that I think are,

01:50:40.880 --> 01:50:52.491
[SPEAKER_00]: surface enough a little bit of a, yes, just that people can get a little bit more information on the things that they are perhaps jacks of all trades.

01:50:52.591 --> 01:50:55.414
[SPEAKER_00]: Let me take you down to the next step of that first one.

01:50:55.854 --> 01:50:56.495
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.

01:50:56.955 --> 01:50:57.475
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.

01:50:58.116 --> 01:51:02.060
[SPEAKER_01]: And so on that note, people, you know, we be.