WEBVTT 00:00.091 --> 00:25.361 [SPEAKER_02]: Alright guys, I'm sick of dog owners getting false information and frankly just lied to and it's at the risk and expense of their beloved dogs and so I'm going to just go over one of the big myths I see out there on the internet and go and break down exactly why it is that and we need to call it out because it's important for dog owners specifically who are looking 00:28.902 --> 00:49.399 [SPEAKER_02]: what some of this stuff means because it's it's a very common misconception and I and I think if you I don't know so let's dive into it so the idea that if you correct a dog for a particular thing typically due to a trigger entering the environment so let's say you're in um 00:50.500 --> 00:58.742 [SPEAKER_02]: You're in a room and another dog or another person walks in in your dog reacts or you go out for a walk I think this is more common. 00:59.022 --> 01:06.524 [SPEAKER_02]: You go out for a walk in your dog reacts and then You have this idea like what do I do in this situation? 01:06.724 --> 01:15.606 [SPEAKER_02]: My dog is reacting to this other dog or this other person or whatever it is Bicycles cars wheelchair skateboards whatever your dog is reacting to 01:16.546 --> 01:27.412 [SPEAKER_02]: One thing I hear from dog owners because they go and be internet and they look things up and they say, what do I do if my dog reacts to X? 01:29.273 --> 01:30.774 [SPEAKER_02]: Whatever that is, right? 01:31.614 --> 01:34.976 [SPEAKER_02]: And typically what I hear from owners is they say, why red? 01:34.996 --> 01:44.241 [SPEAKER_02]: I heard that you shouldn't correct a dog for reacting to a particular trigger because it's going to make them fearful 01:46.090 --> 01:52.893 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, I'm gonna show you guys an example, exactly, again, an exact example of why this isn't true. 01:53.934 --> 01:58.436 [SPEAKER_02]: And, but before I get into that, I'm gonna go over why it's not true. 02:16.163 --> 02:35.291 [SPEAKER_02]: sequence objectively like I've done it hundreds of times I'm gonna show you a video of this happening this is not like oh well Tom kind of trains is you know whatever it's like well no I'm telling you it's not real like that ideology is not real so for an example 02:37.973 --> 02:43.556 [SPEAKER_02]: A dog who enters your environment or whatever that trigger is, and the dog goes, hey, I need to react. 02:43.676 --> 02:47.898 [SPEAKER_02]: Now, why are they reacting does play a role in this, but it's another topic for another day. 02:49.018 --> 02:51.239 [SPEAKER_02]: But the dog reacts and freaks out. 02:51.960 --> 02:57.042 [SPEAKER_02]: Ah, shoot, dang, I'm excited, I'm pissed, I'm angry, I'm upset, I'm scared, whatever. 02:57.902 --> 02:58.803 [SPEAKER_02]: The dog's freaking out. 03:00.624 --> 03:02.745 [SPEAKER_02]: Now we add a correction to that. 03:03.674 --> 03:09.418 [SPEAKER_02]: to disrupt the behavior, to stop the behavior, to discourage the behavior, right? 03:09.478 --> 03:14.222 [SPEAKER_02]: So we leash pop, we yell, we whatever you want to do. 03:14.422 --> 03:17.524 [SPEAKER_02]: That's, again, that is subjective, for sure. 03:18.125 --> 03:19.706 [SPEAKER_02]: However, you want to correct your dog. 03:19.926 --> 03:21.988 [SPEAKER_02]: Like we have to teach them, wow, this sucks. 03:22.628 --> 03:28.453 [SPEAKER_01]: My dog's breaking their neck and they're back and this is stressful and it's dangerous and it's all the things. 03:28.773 --> 03:30.494 [SPEAKER_02]: All the things start to build up where you're like, 03:31.596 --> 03:34.980 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, and so does your dog, and so does the trigger, who's getting barked at by your dog. 03:35.020 --> 03:37.123 [SPEAKER_02]: I can assure you, it's a lose, lose, lose, lose, lose. 03:37.803 --> 03:45.072 [SPEAKER_02]: Three or four owls across the board, nobody wins, it sucks, it's stressful, bad, okay? 03:45.753 --> 03:48.036 [SPEAKER_02]: So we correct the dog when they do that action. 03:49.157 --> 03:51.460 [SPEAKER_02]: Now let's use our critical thinking skills here, people. 03:54.285 --> 03:57.786 [SPEAKER_02]: Let's say, and for those of you listening, I have my phone in my hand. 03:57.826 --> 04:04.547 [SPEAKER_02]: Let's say this is the trigger, and then this pen, which is near the trigger, is the dog. 04:04.828 --> 04:05.088 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay? 04:05.208 --> 04:07.768 [SPEAKER_02]: So the phone goes out of picture. 04:08.028 --> 04:10.229 [SPEAKER_02]: All of a sudden the phone comes into picture. 04:10.769 --> 04:12.669 [SPEAKER_02]: The dog reacts to the phone coming in. 04:16.178 --> 04:23.683 [SPEAKER_02]: Now, the handler, me, you, any other trainer, any person that can think critically here, will discourage the behavior of barking. 04:24.304 --> 04:25.305 [SPEAKER_02]: Stop doing the barking. 04:25.365 --> 04:26.085 [SPEAKER_02]: The barking sucks. 04:26.125 --> 04:33.110 [SPEAKER_02]: The barking is dangerous and wildly inappropriate and stressful and on and on and on and on. 04:33.991 --> 04:34.231 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay? 04:35.051 --> 04:39.495 [SPEAKER_02]: So now, the dog stops the barking, but the trigger still standing right here. 04:40.610 --> 05:01.000 [SPEAKER_02]: So the people who say, well, if you correct the dog and if you're watching this, you can see the pen, which represents the dog, if you correct the dog, for the trigger entering the situation and the dog is going to think that, oh, when the trigger comes in, we get corrected. 05:01.601 --> 05:02.941 [SPEAKER_02]: No, incorrect. 05:04.042 --> 05:07.904 [SPEAKER_02]: It's when the behavior that we don't like happens is when we get 05:11.447 --> 05:12.368 [SPEAKER_02]: Let's think in for a minute. 05:12.568 --> 05:15.591 [SPEAKER_02]: So the trigger enters the mix. 05:16.591 --> 05:17.672 [SPEAKER_02]: The dog reacts. 05:18.133 --> 05:19.974 [SPEAKER_02]: We correct the dog for reacting. 05:20.615 --> 05:24.878 [SPEAKER_02]: The dog stops reacting and the trigger still standing right in front of the dog. 05:25.659 --> 05:27.480 [SPEAKER_02]: Not the dog is not getting corrected. 05:27.801 --> 05:30.663 [SPEAKER_02]: The dog is not getting any type of a verse punishment. 05:31.143 --> 05:38.870 [SPEAKER_02]: The dog is getting affection and praise and food when the dog is standing in front of the trigger without barking. 05:40.915 --> 05:44.057 [SPEAKER_02]: So, again, trigger comes in. 05:44.818 --> 05:46.739 [SPEAKER_02]: Dog barks, we correct the barking. 05:46.759 --> 05:48.940 [SPEAKER_02]: The dog stops barking, the trigger's still right here. 05:49.881 --> 05:53.023 [SPEAKER_02]: At no point in time, if you know anything about dog training. 05:53.704 --> 05:54.964 [SPEAKER_02]: Sorry, I had to say it that way. 05:55.305 --> 05:56.606 [SPEAKER_02]: We're conditioning in general. 05:57.686 --> 06:04.471 [SPEAKER_02]: Will this dog associate the punishment, the correction, the adverse, the stress with the trigger. 06:04.971 --> 06:05.872 [SPEAKER_02]: It should only, 06:07.081 --> 06:14.103 [SPEAKER_02]: be associated with the behavior we didn't like that causes all the stress, anxiety and danger. 06:15.944 --> 06:24.767 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so I just I hear that often and I just want it to make sense. 06:25.167 --> 06:26.587 [SPEAKER_02]: Why would anybody say that? 06:26.687 --> 06:34.870 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know because if you understand conditioning, it's the same exact thing as positive reinforcement. 06:36.490 --> 06:57.594 [SPEAKER_02]: If we take food or reward the dog likes or wants and is expecting and we walk out and the dog knows we have the food and I say sit and the dog puts their butt in the ground and then they get paid. 06:58.614 --> 07:04.055 [SPEAKER_02]: The dog knows the behavior that they did ultimately unlocks the food. 07:06.047 --> 07:08.829 [SPEAKER_02]: So the thing that they did gets them what they want. 07:09.509 --> 07:11.530 [SPEAKER_02]: Same exact thing in the other end of the spectrum. 07:11.951 --> 07:20.956 [SPEAKER_02]: The thing that they did gets the pressure, the correction, and the discouragement, and the disruption. 07:22.677 --> 07:30.202 [SPEAKER_02]: So if I walked down the road, that doesn't mean my dog gets a piece of food, just for being on the road, 07:31.693 --> 07:36.634 [SPEAKER_02]: Excuse me, my dog only gets the piece of food when they do something I ask, wherever comes out of my mouth. 07:38.614 --> 07:45.536 [SPEAKER_02]: And so that is a huge misconception in an absolute bold lie that dog owners get told all the time. 07:45.576 --> 07:56.118 [SPEAKER_02]: You should never correct your dog if they're reactive to other people or other dogs because it's going to make them associate that person or that dog with a correction. 07:57.930 --> 08:01.171 [SPEAKER_02]: that would be, I don't even know how you would do that, honestly. 08:01.191 --> 08:02.211 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm trying to think, hold on. 08:02.231 --> 08:15.695 [SPEAKER_02]: I think the only way you would really be able to do that, if you were so bad at dog training that you walked into a room, your dog saw another dog, you corrected him and ran out of the room. 08:20.430 --> 08:23.411 [SPEAKER_02]: And I don't know anybody that would actually do that. 08:23.451 --> 08:25.472 [SPEAKER_02]: The idea, and I'm gonna show you in this video. 08:25.512 --> 08:28.333 [SPEAKER_02]: So this isn't, so you might be watching this go on all the time. 08:28.353 --> 08:34.134 [SPEAKER_02]: I disagree, I'm gonna show you in this video exactly me doing this. 08:34.374 --> 08:45.817 [SPEAKER_02]: In real time, evidence, based theories, and built off of real dog training and evidence, right here. 08:48.860 --> 08:49.520 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to play it. 08:50.201 --> 08:51.782 [SPEAKER_00]: What do you help? 08:52.662 --> 08:52.982 [SPEAKER_00]: Leave it. 08:53.362 --> 08:56.204 [SPEAKER_00]: I did not think he was going to react to that. 08:56.864 --> 08:57.404 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. 08:57.444 --> 08:59.345 [SPEAKER_00]: What do you leave it? 08:59.866 --> 09:00.686 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, let me see. 09:01.026 --> 09:02.647 [SPEAKER_02]: So you were just too late there. 09:03.027 --> 09:03.368 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 09:03.428 --> 09:04.508 [SPEAKER_02]: Leave it. 09:04.828 --> 09:05.969 [SPEAKER_02]: Easy there, Mr. 09:06.289 --> 09:07.270 [SPEAKER_02]: So leave it. 09:11.472 --> 09:12.973 [SPEAKER_02]: So see how that doesn't matter to him. 09:16.568 --> 09:17.948 [SPEAKER_02]: Let me see that we call her real quick. 09:18.369 --> 09:27.232 [SPEAKER_02]: So listen, when he starts to go, I need to kill this dog, I think, for no reason, because it's not even, listen, that's the most neutral animal you could ever get. 09:27.812 --> 09:29.152 [SPEAKER_02]: It's literally not real. 09:29.472 --> 09:34.934 [SPEAKER_02]: And when he's throwing up hands to the dead dog, that's a problem, right? 09:35.654 --> 09:39.296 [SPEAKER_02]: So you're gonna be in really rough shape once you see a real dog, right? 09:39.916 --> 09:42.037 [SPEAKER_02]: So we'll use the page it, leave it. 09:45.018 --> 09:45.238 [SPEAKER_02]: Good. 09:46.278 --> 09:46.638 [SPEAKER_02]: See that? 09:47.098 --> 09:48.158 [SPEAKER_02]: That's what you're looking for. 09:50.679 --> 09:51.519 [SPEAKER_02]: Good leave it. 09:52.379 --> 09:53.159 [SPEAKER_02]: Good leave it. 09:53.279 --> 09:55.540 [SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't like it, that's the point, okay? 09:56.060 --> 10:02.541 [SPEAKER_02]: So the goal is, just like when he hears that jerky snap open, he's like, I want that, I know what that is. 10:03.101 --> 10:05.062 [SPEAKER_02]: Dogs are very conditioned animals. 10:05.782 --> 10:08.243 [SPEAKER_02]: They know that equals yummy stuff, okay? 10:09.283 --> 10:10.743 [SPEAKER_02]: Sit, good, down, good. 10:11.623 --> 10:13.744 [SPEAKER_02]: When we say leave it and he says this, 10:15.941 --> 10:18.944 [SPEAKER_02]: So next time we say leave it, he's like, done, what, done. 10:19.124 --> 10:20.326 [UNKNOWN]: So how long do you hold it for? 10:20.986 --> 10:21.747 [SPEAKER_02]: Is it one second? 10:22.428 --> 10:22.628 [SPEAKER_02]: Who? 10:23.930 --> 10:28.194 [SPEAKER_02]: Now, our job is to also teach him, you? 10:30.036 --> 10:32.198 [SPEAKER_02]: That dog didn't do that whole vibration thing. 10:33.468 --> 10:36.411 [SPEAKER_02]: You did that vibration thing right and right now. 10:36.511 --> 10:40.936 [SPEAKER_02]: He's kind of like I think the dog did that And this is totally normal for him to go. 10:40.976 --> 10:42.098 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't right now. 10:42.178 --> 10:46.463 [SPEAKER_02]: He's avoiding the dog Which 10:48.138 --> 10:49.979 [SPEAKER_02]: To some people, they would be like, God bless. 10:50.439 --> 10:52.940 [SPEAKER_02]: I, I, yes, please, order more. 10:53.460 --> 10:56.442 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't, there's dog is so reactive to every dog. 10:57.262 --> 11:00.143 [SPEAKER_02]: They are like, I don't, I'm totally okay with this avoidance. 11:00.603 --> 11:03.525 [SPEAKER_02]: Right now, he's, he's conflicted about what just happened. 11:04.305 --> 11:08.247 [SPEAKER_02]: My job is to say, dogs right here, you're getting paid. 11:09.307 --> 11:11.608 [SPEAKER_02]: Dogs right here, you're getting paid. 11:12.328 --> 11:14.309 [SPEAKER_02]: Dogs right here, you're getting paid. 11:14.829 --> 11:15.610 [SPEAKER_02]: The moment he goes, 11:17.886 --> 11:26.009 [SPEAKER_02]: That's when it turns on, and he'll go, oh, okay, right now he's like, what the hell, okay? 11:26.029 --> 11:28.390 [SPEAKER_02]: So that's the bowl here, come on. 11:28.530 --> 11:35.613 [SPEAKER_01]: Good boy, sit, oh, yes, good boy, good job. 11:38.573 --> 11:40.034 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's a good swing. 11:40.094 --> 11:42.496 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my, a nice work buddy. 11:43.156 --> 11:44.958 [SPEAKER_01]: Good boy, much better. 11:44.978 --> 11:46.459 [SPEAKER_01]: He looks back at me, he's gonna get paid. 11:46.999 --> 11:49.001 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, good. 11:49.881 --> 11:54.085 [SPEAKER_02]: So that whole reactive stuff is what turns that vibration on. 11:54.905 --> 11:56.927 [SPEAKER_02]: And that's what we want to clearly explain to him. 11:57.227 --> 12:01.350 [SPEAKER_02]: I correct the dog with a pager, which is a vibration. 12:02.611 --> 12:03.672 [SPEAKER_02]: The moment the dog, 12:04.962 --> 12:06.363 [SPEAKER_02]: stops barking. 12:06.784 --> 12:15.352 [SPEAKER_02]: Now mind you, you guys see in this video, this dog is reactive so bad that he jumps up in the air and smashes his own skull off the ground. 12:17.754 --> 12:20.116 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, that's how bad this dog is reacting. 12:21.257 --> 12:26.702 [SPEAKER_02]: And so when I turn the vibrate on, which is the same thing as your iPhone going off, 12:28.997 --> 12:39.684 [SPEAKER_02]: It's discouraging and correcting the dog for that reaction that nobody wants and that the owner's paid a lot of money to try to figure out how do we decrease or delete. 12:42.086 --> 12:44.787 [SPEAKER_02]: And so you see the dog get corrected. 12:45.007 --> 12:46.188 [SPEAKER_02]: It discourages the dog. 12:46.749 --> 12:53.313 [SPEAKER_02]: The same thing that the dog was reactive to, the dog is now sniffing, getting near and getting paid. 12:55.629 --> 13:00.633 [SPEAKER_02]: So that theory and that lie and that myth is not true. 13:02.034 --> 13:22.731 [SPEAKER_02]: And if anybody needs clarification, send them this podcast or this video, because unless you're doing things terribly wrong, which happens, there's no way the dog is gonna associate the trigger with the punishment or the correction. 13:26.389 --> 13:30.892 [SPEAKER_02]: So the dog understands, oh, it's the freaking out on the leash and breaking my own skull that gets me corrected. 13:31.192 --> 13:34.234 [SPEAKER_02]: Not the other dog, of course. 13:35.643 --> 13:37.404 [SPEAKER_02]: So guys, that's it. 13:37.604 --> 13:41.687 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that's, I can't express to you how many people have been lied to with that. 13:41.787 --> 13:44.569 [SPEAKER_02]: Dog owners come in to me saying, oh, I can't correct my dog. 13:45.430 --> 13:50.673 [SPEAKER_02]: I, you know, so the sequence kind of goes like this, they come in, they go, hey, my dog is super reactive. 13:50.733 --> 13:51.714 [SPEAKER_02]: We're have to put my dog down. 13:52.174 --> 13:54.155 [SPEAKER_02]: I have to kill my dog if this doesn't work. 13:54.816 --> 13:57.037 [SPEAKER_02]: I say, all right, well, we need to correct the dog for the behavior first. 13:57.117 --> 13:59.499 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, we can't do that because there's gonna be stressed involved. 14:00.902 --> 14:02.083 [SPEAKER_02]: And I don't want to stress the dog out. 14:02.523 --> 14:02.903 [SPEAKER_02]: What do you mean? 14:03.404 --> 14:13.250 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I read and I was told by another trainer that correcting the dog for this behavior is going to make the dog associate the other dog as a terrible thing. 14:13.330 --> 14:15.711 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, first of all, that's already happening. 14:16.231 --> 14:17.452 [SPEAKER_02]: That's called leash reactivity. 14:18.413 --> 14:22.335 [SPEAKER_02]: So we don't have to worry about that getting worse or that becoming because that's why you're here. 14:22.355 --> 14:24.897 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. 14:25.557 --> 14:27.979 [SPEAKER_02]: Second of all, if we understand anything 14:31.488 --> 14:35.401 [SPEAKER_02]: At no point in time should the dog think that the punishment is happening because the triggers around. 14:35.481 --> 14:38.430 [SPEAKER_02]: It should be because the dog is reacting like an absolute dangerous fool. 14:41.337 --> 14:41.797 [SPEAKER_02]: mic drop. 14:42.177 --> 14:42.618 [SPEAKER_02]: That's it. 14:43.418 --> 14:45.039 [SPEAKER_02]: It's really that simple. 14:45.219 --> 14:54.524 [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm just, it hurts me to see dog owners lied to and be scammed out of their money from people who do stuff like that. 14:55.005 --> 14:55.585 [SPEAKER_02]: It's not true. 14:56.505 --> 14:59.467 [SPEAKER_02]: So on the video, I deleted out black and white. 14:59.747 --> 15:00.568 [SPEAKER_02]: Here's some evidence. 15:01.588 --> 15:01.948 [SPEAKER_02]: Bingo. 15:02.389 --> 15:08.352 [SPEAKER_02]: We had a dog doing super dangerous, stressful stuff to the point where the dog owners couldn't even walk the dog. 15:11.479 --> 15:18.742 [SPEAKER_02]: And four minutes later, the dog is sniffing the trigger, not associating the correction with that dog. 15:20.023 --> 15:26.506 [SPEAKER_02]: And deleting and boxing out the huge reactivity of the dangerous miss on the leash. 15:27.670 --> 15:30.355 [SPEAKER_02]: Guys, if this was helpful, make sure you leave a comment, leave a like. 15:30.615 --> 15:36.907 [SPEAKER_02]: If you're watching this on Spotify or listening to this in any other podcast platform, make sure you subscribe to it and follow our podcast. 15:37.288 --> 15:44.922 [SPEAKER_02]: We put videos out like this multiple times a week plus guests, doctors, veterinarians, specialists, neurologists, etc. 15:45.122 --> 15:45.723 [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you guys. 15:46.304 --> 15:46.965 [SPEAKER_02]: See you in the next one.