WEBVTT 00:00.479 --> 00:03.300 [SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to the baseball insider's prospect show. 00:03.380 --> 00:05.981 [SPEAKER_00]: I am Adam Winner, joined by Eric Cole. 00:06.081 --> 00:07.761 [SPEAKER_00]: It's a big week for prospecting. 00:07.781 --> 00:09.742 [SPEAKER_00]: The future's game is on Sunday. 00:09.762 --> 00:11.883 [SPEAKER_00]: This is our last show before that in Philadelphia. 00:12.243 --> 00:13.323 [SPEAKER_00]: I'll be boots on the ground. 00:13.603 --> 00:15.784 [SPEAKER_00]: Open have some fun and meet some players. 00:16.344 --> 00:19.005 [SPEAKER_00]: It's also the final podcast before the MLB draft. 00:19.345 --> 00:32.196 [SPEAKER_00]: So we're going to do our last minute draft update, any movers, shakers, first round droppers, unfortunately, Brody Bammilla News took over this week and maybe drop him out of the top tier of the draft entirely. 00:32.436 --> 00:37.981 [SPEAKER_00]: But will assess where we're at, plus a roster breakdown of those futures game participants, Eric, thank you for joining me. 00:38.001 --> 00:39.963 [SPEAKER_00]: We got a lot to get to in today's show. 00:40.827 --> 00:44.970 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, uh, this is one of my favorite times of the year that the draft is a really exciting time. 00:44.990 --> 00:46.391 [SPEAKER_01]: We get to see a bunch of infusion talent. 00:46.711 --> 00:53.396 [SPEAKER_01]: We also get to find out a bunch of guys like we've never heard of or, you know, like the surprises from the draft were like, why is that guy getting taken into the second round? 00:53.456 --> 00:54.697 [SPEAKER_01]: Why, you know, why is that guys? 00:54.998 --> 00:56.859 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I thought that guy was going to school. 00:56.879 --> 00:57.680 [SPEAKER_01]: How much they haven't been to pay him. 00:57.700 --> 00:59.201 [SPEAKER_01]: Those are the types of things that I really enjoy. 01:00.121 --> 01:20.371 [SPEAKER_01]: It's the beginning of the prospect journey and this is where, you know, a lot of 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have covered Von Lacky moving up. 02:19.379 --> 02:21.860 [SPEAKER_00]: We've covered, you know, Chalowski moving back. 02:22.501 --> 02:24.862 [SPEAKER_00]: Now your best estimation, where do we sit? 02:26.875 --> 02:33.341 [SPEAKER_01]: I still say that Chaloseki going number one overall is the favorite because I think he's the safest option. 02:33.962 --> 02:37.004 [SPEAKER_01]: And if you're the white socks in that position, you kind of don't want to mess this pick up. 02:37.665 --> 02:41.168 [SPEAKER_01]: That said, that's like a 50% for me, right? 02:41.188 --> 02:43.290 [SPEAKER_01]: Like I think that that's like, that's the most likely. 02:43.791 --> 02:45.112 [SPEAKER_01]: I think Dritty Emerson's right there. 02:45.252 --> 02:48.055 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that Von Lacke is going to go first overall. 02:49.256 --> 02:55.121 [SPEAKER_01]: But those three in some order are going to be gone in the first three picks unless something wild happens. 02:55.341 --> 02:58.904 [SPEAKER_01]: I just have not heard a thing that anyone thinks that's going to happen after that. 02:59.005 --> 03:02.748 [SPEAKER_01]: After that, the tears are relatively the same that we've always been talking about. 03:02.768 --> 03:07.612 [SPEAKER_01]: They're saying, that's six, we have a lot of each of those key Emerson and then you've got Jake in Lumpbar. 03:07.632 --> 03:09.855 [SPEAKER_01]: You've got Eric both Junior and you've got Jackson Flora. 03:09.875 --> 03:11.136 [SPEAKER_01]: Those are kind of like the six. 03:12.177 --> 03:13.318 [SPEAKER_01]: They're going to go in some order. 03:14.960 --> 03:29.734 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it's going to be crazy away from what the rankings are, but maybe there's a few flops here and there, it might cause going a little bit of money, but after that that next tier of like, I honestly think there might be 20 guys that could be picked over those next, over those next few picks. 03:30.474 --> 03:39.283 [SPEAKER_01]: And that's because this class, once you get past those top six guys, there's just not a lot of differentiating guys, and what that means what comes down to his money. 03:39.983 --> 03:52.049 [SPEAKER_01]: And what's happening right now and what I'm hearing is that a lot of teams, especially ones with relatively big bonus pools, are trying to figure out how to maximize those bonus pools by getting the maximum amount of talent possible. 03:52.409 --> 04:01.234 [SPEAKER_01]: And that means if they have a guy that's number 10 on their board and they're picking at number 10, but they have another guy who's maybe 15 on their board, but will take $2 million less. 04:01.834 --> 04:05.036 [SPEAKER_01]: They'll take that guy so that way they can do overslaught science later on in the draft. 04:05.796 --> 04:08.837 [SPEAKER_01]: And it's not like we've seen a lot of teams do this. 04:08.857 --> 04:10.397 [SPEAKER_01]: The brave supremaciously have done it quite a bit. 04:10.437 --> 04:13.818 [SPEAKER_01]: They like kind of do it under slaughterly so they can kind of make some moves later on in the draft. 04:14.478 --> 04:18.379 [SPEAKER_01]: And a lot of the top top teams in the draft love to do this. 04:18.399 --> 04:20.700 [SPEAKER_01]: The pirates have done it to a great effect as well in the past. 04:21.160 --> 04:24.620 [SPEAKER_01]: Orals have done it where you just have a bunch of money and then you throw a bunch of money at the top names. 04:24.660 --> 04:26.741 [SPEAKER_01]: And see if you can get the right guys to flow down to you. 04:27.942 --> 04:33.106 [SPEAKER_01]: I expect it's not just going to be the top top top top bonus top top picks this time. 04:33.166 --> 04:41.353 [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's going to be a lot more, a lot of teams trying to stretch their dollars out because the difference between number 10 and number 25 is just not that big. 04:42.545 --> 05:08.202 [SPEAKER_00]: Now, any surprising names that you have heard with serious helium headed towards this, we've heard about some people falling out of the first round, we will get to a mill in a bit, and I think he was dropping before this lay this revelation, but anybody moving up again, not in that very top tier, which has been fairly locked forever, especially since we talked to Jim Callis, but anybody here saying, I thought of this guy, maybe 35, maybe a comp round pick, and all of a sudden, 20, 25, this seems more reasonable. 05:08.262 --> 05:08.543 [SPEAKER_00]: I know, 05:09.103 --> 05:11.525 [SPEAKER_00]: Bull Lawrence has been moving up a bit the last couple weeks. 05:11.565 --> 05:21.153 [SPEAKER_00]: That's a guy that I looked at as like, oh, okay, creep it into the 20s, creep it into the late teens, but anybody catch your eye Lawrence makes sense at any other names that feel like they fit this category. 05:21.714 --> 05:23.115 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Lawrence has been the big name. 05:23.575 --> 05:30.021 [SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of power and I guess I just hadn't really gotten a good look at him, compared to other his peers or whatever. 05:30.541 --> 05:33.644 [SPEAKER_01]: But 65 and 200 pounds with that kind of power already. 05:33.664 --> 05:34.245 [SPEAKER_01]: Mix me wonder, 05:35.185 --> 05:42.029 [SPEAKER_01]: that he could maybe go over a higher, maybe it's like an underslaught, cause like, that's a kind of a frame you can dream on a bit in terms of peer power production. 05:43.070 --> 05:45.531 [SPEAKER_01]: I can see Cole Pro, set going, for relatively high again. 05:45.832 --> 05:50.835 [SPEAKER_01]: The names that we're gonna see rise and fall really are going to be to high school names. 05:50.915 --> 05:54.457 [SPEAKER_01]: I think that the college guys are just kind of gonna go where they're gonna go. 05:54.957 --> 05:58.138 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't like, I think Hunter Dietz is probably going to go in the middle of the first round. 05:58.938 --> 06:05.199 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think he's going to take an underslot deal, but I don't think someone's going to like throw $3 million at him and try to get him to, you know, float to the top rounds, right? 06:05.640 --> 06:10.421 [SPEAKER_01]: So I think it's going to come down to like teams identifying prep players that can do it. 06:10.501 --> 06:21.003 [SPEAKER_01]: Another thing this risen up relatively quickly is Trevor Condon, the out of Georgia, because he's not only at the Charlie Condon before anyone asks George, I mean, you said it. 06:25.865 --> 06:31.591 [SPEAKER_01]: But again, I just didn't think he'd hit for like enough power to really kind of force his way into the earlier pick conversation. 06:32.171 --> 06:36.876 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think he's going to go top 10, but maybe in the early teens, I could see his name starting to pop up. 06:37.897 --> 06:43.143 [SPEAKER_01]: And again, he's like super athletic plays a lot of energy, a lot of things really like him. 06:43.323 --> 06:44.364 [SPEAKER_01]: So I could see that happening. 06:46.232 --> 06:49.954 [SPEAKER_01]: There are a couple of college bats that I think are good into kind of be the safe haven picks. 06:50.054 --> 06:58.338 [SPEAKER_01]: Like AJ Grassey is another one example of hearing Ace Reast is kind of back on the upswing after there were some concerns about what his future defense opposite is going to be. 06:58.639 --> 07:05.282 [SPEAKER_01]: But at the end of the day, teams just want good value and somewhat decent amount like a certain amount of safety from their first pick. 07:05.682 --> 07:07.103 [SPEAKER_01]: And Ace Reast is going to hit. 07:07.723 --> 07:08.904 [SPEAKER_01]: AJ Grassey is going to hit. 07:09.104 --> 07:10.565 [SPEAKER_01]: How much upside both those guys have? 07:10.785 --> 07:11.886 [SPEAKER_01]: Completely fair question. 07:12.226 --> 07:14.147 [SPEAKER_01]: But those guys will make it the double way. 07:14.807 --> 07:20.009 [SPEAKER_01]: It happens after that, you know, that's true of every prospect, but there are teams I think are going to want to do some of that as well. 07:20.029 --> 07:35.493 [SPEAKER_01]: So I think that there's a little bit of, there's going to be some amount of hedging, but I think that the names are going to be the most volatile or in that, you know, that high school range where you just don't really know how many teams are willing to risk a first round pick on a guy who might have first round talent, but it's really risky. 07:36.455 --> 07:46.692 [SPEAKER_00]: Now is there anyone you fall in love with throughout this process that even like between the first time we touch base and now you're higher on than when you began you've been convinced maybe as a higher ceiling than you thought. 07:48.561 --> 07:50.562 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we are talking a little bit about Lawrence again. 07:50.582 --> 07:55.064 [SPEAKER_01]: I kind of was looking into it and I just think that his upsides a lot better than I thought I was going to be. 07:56.625 --> 07:57.785 [SPEAKER_01]: Kate Townsend's another name. 07:58.226 --> 08:01.307 [SPEAKER_01]: He did not have a great end of the year and he just had a little bit of a shoulder injury scare. 08:01.927 --> 08:03.188 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't, I'm not worried about him being hurt. 08:03.988 --> 08:06.570 [SPEAKER_01]: I wasn't super happy that he didn't end the year. 08:06.590 --> 08:09.331 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's time to make you worried that maybe he's fatigued and he can't hold up to being a starter. 08:09.711 --> 08:13.353 [SPEAKER_01]: Look at his five pitches and they might, they all have a chance to be above average or plus. 08:13.933 --> 08:15.994 [SPEAKER_01]: so that's a really healthy arsenal. 08:17.294 --> 08:24.956 [SPEAKER_01]: You'll go on the first round as to where any from late teens, like all the way to the very end of the first round, I could see him going. 08:24.976 --> 08:26.876 [SPEAKER_01]: Those are just a wide range for him. 08:28.977 --> 08:34.498 [SPEAKER_01]: Jared Gryngler, the two-way high school kid, I just never 08:36.801 --> 08:40.744 [SPEAKER_01]: I just never believed that high school like these two way high school players are really two way high school players. 08:41.244 --> 08:43.326 [SPEAKER_01]: But I think he might actually have shot at it. 08:44.427 --> 08:49.010 [SPEAKER_01]: That's not to say I think he's a Tony, but I think he's very, I think he might be a first round bat or a first round pitcher. 08:50.011 --> 08:52.692 [SPEAKER_01]: I would not be shocked if a team goes, well, let's you try both. 08:54.131 --> 09:00.033 [SPEAKER_01]: Mike, maybe they don't stay with that experiment very long, and that's what usually what happens is even if they drive for guys a two-way player. 09:01.193 --> 09:02.573 [SPEAKER_01]: But he's just very fun. 09:02.773 --> 09:05.654 [SPEAKER_01]: He's just a very fun sort of player. 09:06.174 --> 09:13.196 [SPEAKER_01]: And again, beyond that, I almost think that guys like Sawyer Stroes Knighter and Justin LeBron, I think the industry might have overcorrected a bit. 09:14.276 --> 09:16.057 [SPEAKER_01]: I think those guys just have really good tools. 09:16.937 --> 09:20.078 [SPEAKER_01]: The hit tool might not be perfect, and they might have some defensive questions, but like, 09:22.655 --> 09:27.018 [SPEAKER_01]: We're talking about like, sure, if you're picking them at top 10, I get it, right? 09:27.058 --> 09:27.539 [SPEAKER_01]: Don't, don't. 09:28.159 --> 09:35.664 [SPEAKER_01]: But you're at 16 and you're choosing between a diet, like Justin Lebron and Sawyer Strociner, who like have big-time raw tools and play that real college programs. 09:36.025 --> 09:37.526 [SPEAKER_01]: For some of these other guys who are like, 09:38.046 --> 09:43.491 [SPEAKER_01]: their best outcome is in above average two more players, something I don't even know what we're talking about. 09:43.531 --> 09:45.272 [SPEAKER_01]: I think that you probably do need to take that chance. 09:45.412 --> 09:51.577 [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that I've liked those, you kind of go in thinking, oh, there's stocks following, I guess, you know, they might not be as good as I thought they were. 09:51.858 --> 09:52.678 [SPEAKER_01]: And I start digging into it. 09:52.698 --> 09:55.661 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just not so sure that that's the case with these two. 09:56.413 --> 10:02.476 [SPEAKER_00]: We've another couple of golden days ahead of us and being able to do the sort of who's on first style wears LeBron going. 10:02.536 --> 10:04.017 [SPEAKER_00]: Like I heard LeBron's going to Cleveland. 10:04.097 --> 10:04.597 [SPEAKER_00]: Like really? 10:04.697 --> 10:07.278 [SPEAKER_00]: They're going to use that thick on LeBron. 10:07.578 --> 10:10.440 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe maybe the Bay Area, I don't know, is Anthony Davis going to move away. 10:10.460 --> 10:11.360 [SPEAKER_00]: Who are you talking about? 10:11.620 --> 10:16.343 [SPEAKER_00]: So stay tuned for a bunch of that annoying nonsense from me personally over the next couple of days. 10:17.264 --> 10:18.585 [SPEAKER_00]: What about the opposite direction? 10:18.885 --> 10:39.619 [SPEAKER_00]: Any potential first round towns people you thought You know, we're sort of shoe-ins up top who we're falling and endangered becoming second round and below steals This usually is a money question This basically if you want to boil down what I'm asking him saying is anybody pricing themselves out of the first round and is anybody gonna Roman Anthony them, you know, in the second or a little bit later 10:41.374 --> 10:42.999 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, it's a fair question. 10:44.165 --> 10:49.308 [SPEAKER_01]: I haven't really heard any crazy numbers coming out of guys with commitments yet. 10:49.908 --> 10:54.290 [SPEAKER_01]: Those generally come out of draft days though, we're like, why didn't that go out to those folks to go on the teams? 10:54.310 --> 10:54.930 [SPEAKER_01]: Why didn't that happen? 10:54.950 --> 10:58.712 [SPEAKER_01]: And then you find out who's asking for five million dollars and wasn't willing to move off of it. 10:58.732 --> 10:59.833 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, oh, oh, that'll do it. 11:00.793 --> 11:05.696 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think Will Brick is going to be particularly cheap and high school catchers are very risky. 11:05.796 --> 11:10.338 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, you don't just go through the list of like early high school draft picks 11:14.531 --> 11:19.034 [SPEAKER_01]: probably shouldn't have been early, high school traffic, they probably should have done the college, right? 11:19.514 --> 11:36.704 [SPEAKER_01]: After that, you have, like again, it kind of depends on how you feel about, like, for example, Logan Reddeman was probably in the content for our top 10 pick before to start with the season, has an injury, froze work out recently, reportedly looks okay, are you gonna take a chance on that guy? 11:37.180 --> 11:39.843 [SPEAKER_01]: Now, Brody Bemila, we're going to talk about him in a little bit. 11:40.083 --> 11:41.345 [SPEAKER_01]: That's the easiest example point to you. 11:41.365 --> 11:43.887 [SPEAKER_01]: But there are these entry issues where you could see, like, 11:45.412 --> 11:56.380 [SPEAKER_01]: The few teams that might have been interested in the bottom of the first round, they might get a little spooked, they might actually, we would pick you to the second round pick, but the first round pick, it's a little bit too much and the guts kind of where let's kind of read them and falls for me. 11:57.181 --> 12:04.867 [SPEAKER_01]: After that, I mean, there's just like, for example, Kevin Grove, we're hoping right power hitter next to say an end doesn't really have a defensive home. 12:06.428 --> 12:13.153 [SPEAKER_01]: But the guy can match, so I wouldn't be surprised that there's a team of the bottom like look, we're just this guy might get 30 home runs a year, so why is well take a shot on him. 12:14.167 --> 12:21.333 [SPEAKER_01]: But a lot of teams, and you kind of seen this a lot in the draft, they you need to have some sort of defensive fertility to get picked early, and he doesn't have that. 12:22.194 --> 12:23.655 [SPEAKER_01]: So I could see him falling out. 12:24.275 --> 12:28.079 [SPEAKER_01]: Beyond that, I mean, just like I sort of like already border lines, so I wouldn't be like crazy shock. 12:28.099 --> 12:37.106 [SPEAKER_01]: I would just be kind of like really, like, for example, archer horn is like, like high school short sap prospect, you see him going late in mock drafts in the first round. 12:37.226 --> 12:37.927 [SPEAKER_01]: People like him. 12:38.886 --> 12:42.190 [SPEAKER_01]: But I think it's like two or three teams particularly that really like him. 12:42.210 --> 12:47.136 [SPEAKER_01]: And if those teams just go in a slightly different direction, he might be a bot, he might go in the bot middle of the second round. 12:47.777 --> 12:55.387 [SPEAKER_01]: So guys like that, there's no one like that's like whose stock is immediately falling right now beyond bummering because again, that's an injury thing. 12:55.887 --> 12:56.068 [SPEAKER_01]: But 12:57.461 --> 13:08.884 [SPEAKER_01]: Again, we've seen situations for guys who were in contention for top five that it comes out on draft day publicly anyway that he has character concerns or there is an injury concern or the money is not right. 13:09.104 --> 13:14.846 [SPEAKER_01]: Things like that mean like everyone was thinking that he's an holiday was going to go first overall and then he ends up going forth because he was just asking for too much money. 13:15.166 --> 13:17.747 [SPEAKER_01]: Those are the types of drops that we can see and we've seen far worse than that. 13:19.406 --> 13:19.806 [SPEAKER_01]: in the past. 13:19.826 --> 13:32.409 [SPEAKER_01]: So I just, again, I'm not, I'm not hearing anything super crazy at the moment, but I also wonder, for example, guys who have injury concerns, maybe you look at, look at the, my brain has turned off. 13:33.249 --> 13:38.970 [SPEAKER_01]: The short-suffin Kentucky Utiler Bell, who has got an injury concern, Chris Akopian, another guy who's had some injury issues. 13:40.030 --> 13:45.992 [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe we see them fall further than we think, just because teams have access to the medical stuff we don't have, and they're like, 13:48.238 --> 13:54.203 [SPEAKER_00]: read him in I've seen mock to the Yankees for the first time in months in recent, you know, mock drafts. 13:54.223 --> 14:09.175 [SPEAKER_00]: And I think some of that does stem from which team is willing to take the chance on a potential, you know, a talk ten talent, a guy who we sort of all agreed was taken it for that upper echelon until injury concerns no throw, like how far 14:09.916 --> 14:31.002 [SPEAKER_00]: Can this player fall like how far down the lottery willing to go before you say I know the peak I know the ceiling and I don't have access to this kind of talent from where I draft usually so if it falls apart it falls apart on me right the egg breaks on my face, but if it works, I'm the team that was able to say, okay, my is we'll take a crazy chance here knowing that it could ultimately render this pick irrelevant. 14:31.182 --> 14:36.605 [SPEAKER_00]: and an F and a net zero, if there is no rehab, it doesn't work and the player doesn't bounce back. 14:37.405 --> 14:50.973 [SPEAKER_00]: So that retamine intrigues me in terms of the high level of variance and the level of confidence where he goes is going to tell you a lot about how team value the medical is and how to use fuel about what it looks like behind the scenes, the things that we don't have access to. 14:51.733 --> 14:53.895 [SPEAKER_00]: Eric is right, the interplay is always fascinating too. 14:54.735 --> 15:14.015 [SPEAKER_00]: Will it's going first last year because of this holiday price and any of the price tag leads to not the only factor but it leads to bremner going second it ultimately leads to the angels failures because there are rumors they had I mean we all mocked Will it's to the angels last year and then you know if you go by public mocks and expert analysis 15:14.816 --> 15:16.797 [SPEAKER_00]: It would be fair to believe they were a bit blindsided. 15:16.817 --> 15:20.419 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure they had more data more inventory and new more about their backup plan. 15:20.479 --> 15:26.242 [SPEAKER_00]: And then we think they did, but all of you know, all of the sudden you've got this guy bremner going and you've got a regime that's out. 15:26.822 --> 15:29.283 [SPEAKER_00]: So notable and and hate. 15:29.323 --> 15:31.964 [SPEAKER_00]: So Bammila is it is a tough one here because. 15:33.605 --> 16:02.267 [SPEAKER_00]: He is sort of the the flashiest prep arm and a guy who you ask experts all along they would say I'm not totally sure what to do with this, but it's undeniable that he is dominating high school at this ridiculous level and and but he was the most viral name in the guy that you sort of had to ask him call us about when we had him to say I'm not sure what we're doing here because the eye popping visuals and the insane box scores are all in Bammilla's corner and he's the name we get asked about the most. 16:02.647 --> 16:04.268 [SPEAKER_00]: and that Twitter buzzes about the most. 16:04.348 --> 16:06.189 [SPEAKER_00]: So why does he not have more helium? 16:06.229 --> 16:08.390 [SPEAKER_00]: What's the cap on this ceiling? 16:08.590 --> 16:11.132 [SPEAKER_00]: He had internal brace surgery as a youth athlete. 16:11.512 --> 16:17.675 [SPEAKER_00]: He now has reported the teams that there is UCL damage possible full reconstruction on the way. 16:17.755 --> 16:22.758 [SPEAKER_00]: One of the most talked about pitchers captivating to a general audience was already falling below the first round. 16:23.238 --> 16:25.219 [SPEAKER_00]: What is this due to his already falling draft stock? 16:25.400 --> 16:26.260 [SPEAKER_00]: I know it's extreme. 16:26.400 --> 16:27.581 [SPEAKER_00]: It does extreme things. 16:28.081 --> 16:38.669 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, but on a personal level, how upsetting is this, it is someone we can maybe see for Philatex's commitment now instead of being poached and signed to a professional contract at all in this draft. 16:40.351 --> 16:42.292 [SPEAKER_01]: The commitment to Texas is a fair question. 16:42.312 --> 16:44.014 [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I wouldn't be shocked. 16:45.282 --> 16:59.047 [SPEAKER_01]: I wonder if he had a num, a num he has a number in mind, where regardless of like if he was only going to be if he didn't get offered X, he was going to go to school one way or the other and that now getting X is just going to be a lot harder and that just makes it more likely to go to school. 17:00.581 --> 17:23.501 [SPEAKER_01]: If you feel terrible for the kid, like if you're going to be a first round pick and then like literally the week before the draft you find out that your elbows shot and you're about to you're going to have to have surgery probably I just hate that for any kid and then he's the arm talents and electric so triple digits is a high school which is you know you can talk about whether that's a good thing or not, but that's still very special to do. 17:24.442 --> 17:33.506 [SPEAKER_01]: and coming from like a small area where like baseball's not really kind of a big deal per se had a chance to be to be a high-track deck in my mind. 17:34.366 --> 17:38.788 [SPEAKER_01]: That said, I think that the teams that are interested in are still going to be interested in. 17:38.848 --> 17:40.289 [SPEAKER_01]: I just think that the price tag is going to be different. 17:40.829 --> 17:43.410 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, take AJ seller for example, right? 17:43.470 --> 17:48.432 [SPEAKER_01]: He's my, he was mocked to the Padres a lot because in terms of the prelar index of what products, like sea lights, 17:54.289 --> 18:00.251 [SPEAKER_01]: I could still see Brother going, hey, we still like you a lot and we can wait, but you're going to have to take less money if you want to be picked, right? 18:00.651 --> 18:02.711 [SPEAKER_01]: And that would be a smart thing to do, I think. 18:02.931 --> 18:11.714 [SPEAKER_01]: Now that said, when you have a guy who's already had brain surgery and is about to have presumably, we don't know, let's say, yes, I'm a John, and he's a power pitcher. 18:12.660 --> 18:13.521 [SPEAKER_01]: coming at a high school. 18:14.061 --> 18:16.163 [SPEAKER_01]: What is that going to look like post-intree? 18:16.364 --> 18:18.105 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't have an answer to that question. 18:18.365 --> 18:22.669 [SPEAKER_01]: Because some guys, like, oh, no, this, I just, it's a gutlin' right back to what I was doing. 18:22.689 --> 18:29.836 [SPEAKER_01]: It seemed fine for other guys, whether there's a little bit more scar tissue or the rehab's a little harder for whatever reason that wasn't able to stay in shape this right away. 18:30.156 --> 18:30.837 [SPEAKER_01]: They're never the same. 18:31.498 --> 18:33.540 [SPEAKER_01]: So how much of a risk are you willing to take? 18:33.700 --> 18:35.562 [SPEAKER_01]: Now, in the middle of this case, 18:36.823 --> 18:42.767 [SPEAKER_01]: I would still be willing to wager a pick somewhere in the top two rounds on him, depending on price tag. 18:42.807 --> 18:55.716 [SPEAKER_01]: If he's wanting full freight, while also her, I have fun in school kit, you know, I mean, like, and that wouldn't be necessarily a bad angle for him too, because he could recover and then playing at Texas, that's a high, that's like a high-villability program. 18:55.776 --> 18:56.536 [SPEAKER_01]: He pitches well there. 18:56.596 --> 19:00.859 [SPEAKER_01]: He's going to get a lot of love in a couple of years when he's eligible for the draft again. 19:00.999 --> 19:04.602 [SPEAKER_01]: But my hunch is that he's going to get an offer. 19:05.442 --> 19:20.119 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, at least make him think about taking it, the arm pound just too good and then when you're talking about like teams in the top rounds who are like just want anyone with a pulse and you have that kid there and his right now just that he's out with Tommy John might be worth taking a gamble. 19:21.796 --> 19:23.657 [SPEAKER_00]: I definitely do still smell. 19:23.677 --> 19:23.957 [SPEAKER_00]: Preller. 19:24.137 --> 19:30.659 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, but hey, we will we will see how this lands excited for draft a Saturday big day full day. 19:30.719 --> 19:32.040 [SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be televised for multiple hours. 19:32.060 --> 19:35.181 [SPEAKER_00]: I think we get to pick one 30 on Saturday, maybe a full six hour. 19:35.221 --> 19:36.701 [SPEAKER_00]: So check out the fans. 19:36.741 --> 19:40.763 [SPEAKER_00]: I did network of content, Eric and I and the rest of our MLB staff writers will be covering it. 19:40.983 --> 19:52.426 [SPEAKER_00]: early and then I will go to bed and then I will wake up and take an early morning commuter train in a systems bank park and hopefully get on the field, hopefully get some access to some of the incredibly stacked futures game rosters. 19:53.226 --> 20:01.308 [SPEAKER_00]: It's been going around this might be the most stacked futures game we've ever, I feel like we could say that every year, but it's, you know, money, degrees, gauge what the home town kid. 20:01.968 --> 20:04.189 [SPEAKER_00]: you're going to be seeing a ridiculous amount of talent. 20:04.349 --> 20:06.130 [SPEAKER_00]: Mark McGuire's son is also competing in this. 20:06.210 --> 20:09.792 [SPEAKER_00]: I asked Eric, why don't I know that Mark McGuire's son is a reliever in the Cub system. 20:10.052 --> 20:10.732 [SPEAKER_00]: Am I a fool? 20:10.832 --> 20:13.694 [SPEAKER_00]: I might be pitching prospect with probably future reliever. 20:14.114 --> 20:18.376 [SPEAKER_00]: Eric, which prospects are you most excited to see unleashed in Sunday's showcase? 20:19.856 --> 20:22.197 [SPEAKER_01]: So there's like some easy answers, right? 20:22.237 --> 20:34.063 [SPEAKER_01]: Like there's young guys that we don't really get the chance to having a chance to see a whole lot yet, like Kevin Alvarez from the Astros, Ring Alvarez from the Cardinals, there's like two international guys who just haven't got a lot of screen time. 20:34.723 --> 20:40.826 [SPEAKER_01]: It's really interesting to see him, feel Gillin's like a breakout prospect that's another name that is going to be fun to watch. 20:40.966 --> 20:46.029 [SPEAKER_01]: Just, and I've had the chance to watch him a little bit because of him being in high A. 20:47.149 --> 20:51.470 [SPEAKER_01]: with in the same like as the Roman brothers, but you know, he's just pesky. 20:51.510 --> 20:54.911 [SPEAKER_01]: He's just like, this is tough at bats and just like quality contact. 20:54.931 --> 21:00.293 [SPEAKER_01]: Not like super loud when I've seen him, but like you can kind of tell he's a low, there's there's there's a difference, right? 21:00.613 --> 21:04.554 [SPEAKER_01]: When like you know, there's a guy who it's a fly ball and they're both out, but 21:05.574 --> 21:07.655 [SPEAKER_01]: One is doesn't look dangerous at all. 21:07.675 --> 21:12.217 [SPEAKER_01]: The other one's like, I did not think that was going to stay or I did not think that was going to hang up as long as I did. 21:13.037 --> 21:17.678 [SPEAKER_01]: He's kind of one of those guys, but I'd be lying if I said that the answer was anyone of them said their dad does. 21:19.759 --> 21:24.405 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure if he's going to walk free guys and whenever he does get the pitch. 21:25.486 --> 21:35.398 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna say it probably not because he's been so good this year, but he is going to be a clip farmer in terms of like he's going to throw 101 and some top prospect is just gonna be like 21:36.217 --> 21:39.559 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, like, just search max clerks for Seth Fernandez. 21:39.599 --> 21:40.640 [SPEAKER_01]: It's all you need to do. 21:41.000 --> 21:42.201 [SPEAKER_01]: Go search for that video. 21:42.521 --> 21:55.949 [SPEAKER_01]: When a guy is good as max clerks is like malping explodives directly at Seth Fernandez, not in a mean way in a, I don't understand why I just saw it's like he's looking at a high fast, about 102 or something. 21:56.990 --> 21:59.051 [SPEAKER_01]: Seth's the guy that I'm most interested in. 21:59.732 --> 22:05.855 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm almost glad that he kind of found a little bit of trouble in high A, like he's had a couple starts to have him been pristine. 22:06.175 --> 22:10.418 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like you want him to kind of learn his craft a little bit, but the arm talent's so good. 22:10.758 --> 22:13.380 [SPEAKER_01]: I just kind of worried like he's just never going to learn how to pitch. 22:13.420 --> 22:16.562 [SPEAKER_01]: He's just going to, he's like okay well they said throw the curvy one. 22:16.582 --> 22:19.583 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm doing that and it's just going to be something no one can hit. 22:20.064 --> 22:21.665 [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm glad that he's so down a little bit. 22:22.365 --> 22:23.426 [SPEAKER_01]: I was kind of worried that he's going to get 22:26.027 --> 22:28.771 [SPEAKER_01]: But since like they're slowing down a little bit, it's a special pitching prospect. 22:29.051 --> 22:32.155 [SPEAKER_01]: I would not be shocked if he wasn't the one on prospect overall very soon. 22:32.910 --> 22:58.068 [SPEAKER_00]: every inning is going to be covered by someone like I'm not even under I can't over sale how most watch is going to be like Kate Kate Anderson's going to be there Jamie Arnold's going to be their ions is going to be their Ryan Sloan like the double meritorious prospects double barrel you know to Paul offensively Jojo Parker short give me the fast rising Ralphie Velasquez who just like it does it with consistency and no one can tell really how is this happening will it's going to be 22:58.148 --> 23:01.350 [SPEAKER_00]: be there even Salas post breakout Franklin areas. 23:01.451 --> 23:03.292 [SPEAKER_00]: You know Walker Jenkins and Katelyn Colpepper. 23:03.312 --> 23:04.893 [SPEAKER_00]: I could just do this forever. 23:05.574 --> 23:14.300 [SPEAKER_00]: Are there any names that aren't going to be participating that you're a little bummed out about I'm but Carl Slegron Hay was picked obviously down at six weeks of no throw with a shoulder issue. 23:14.521 --> 23:19.424 [SPEAKER_00]: Doesn't look like it's going to require surgery, but probably will end his season just based on the timing of all that. 23:19.765 --> 23:21.366 [SPEAKER_00]: He will not participate. 23:21.546 --> 23:22.086 [SPEAKER_00]: Anybody you're 23:22.927 --> 23:29.830 [SPEAKER_00]: If only, I mean, it's hard to wish and dreamcast on this crazy ass roster, but is there anyone who's saying, couldn't we have crammed them in there just for fun? 23:31.231 --> 23:33.012 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's kind of the problem with this question. 23:33.032 --> 23:37.834 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like, I mean, who do you who's spot what you take? 23:38.014 --> 23:39.335 [SPEAKER_01]: And I don't have great answer that question. 23:39.515 --> 23:41.456 [SPEAKER_01]: So, unfortunately, I'd love to see it at a Cartman in the game. 23:41.776 --> 23:43.036 [SPEAKER_01]: People are young for the warfare's game. 23:43.717 --> 23:48.039 [SPEAKER_01]: So, like, there's good reasons why you don't put him in this year's future game. 23:48.359 --> 23:49.859 [SPEAKER_01]: I would be shocked if he wasn't in next year's. 23:51.260 --> 23:59.868 [SPEAKER_01]: But otherwise, again, like it's kind of the hurt guys, you know, it's Nate George for the Orioles, like a guy that we thought was going to be really fun sort of hitting a prospect and he's been out for a while. 24:00.328 --> 24:03.371 [SPEAKER_01]: The Marlins have a couple of even our cats been out for a little while now with an injury. 24:03.411 --> 24:07.895 [SPEAKER_01]: He's on the injured list and then he got Thomas White, who I think has already been in the future's game. 24:07.975 --> 24:09.276 [SPEAKER_01]: I kind of lose track of who's made to look. 24:09.296 --> 24:10.958 [SPEAKER_01]: Somebody's guys have been there two or three times now, but 24:11.338 --> 24:17.881 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, again, you know, lefty really wanted to see him take a step forward this year, unfortunately now he's dealing with injury stuff and we still know if that's going to happen. 24:17.901 --> 24:19.522 [SPEAKER_01]: So it's kind of the injured guys. 24:19.542 --> 24:20.622 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, like, what's that skill? 24:20.642 --> 24:22.303 [SPEAKER_01]: Be going to be able to force his way to this conversation. 24:22.323 --> 24:23.623 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't actually have an answer to that question. 24:24.044 --> 24:26.805 [SPEAKER_01]: So just the guys that I wish I could have been able to find out, but we'll see. 24:27.723 --> 24:29.143 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, DAX, shame. 24:29.423 --> 24:30.543 [SPEAKER_00]: It's always Yankees Prospect, too. 24:30.584 --> 24:32.444 [SPEAKER_00]: I know with the strange injuries to take about of this. 24:33.104 --> 24:36.525 [SPEAKER_00]: Kale and Cole Pepper, is he going to be in the MLB after the trade deadline? 24:36.725 --> 24:42.446 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, who are we talking about from this game who's most likely going to get promoted after these roster shuffle around? 24:42.466 --> 24:46.006 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's tough. 24:46.846 --> 24:51.207 [SPEAKER_01]: So if I'm looking through this list, I'm thinking about promoting to the big league, this guy is just what you're asking for. 24:51.227 --> 24:53.648 [SPEAKER_00]: Also, I just think like EMLB, it's time to wrap it up. 24:56.667 --> 24:58.789 [SPEAKER_01]: I almost think that Walker Jenkins is going to force his way up. 24:59.090 --> 25:02.393 [SPEAKER_01]: I think the twins are going to kind of mess around and be competitive and he's been picked. 25:02.413 --> 25:04.476 [SPEAKER_01]: So well, he's going to be kind of forced his way to the conversation. 25:04.496 --> 25:05.897 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, can't even go backwards. 25:05.917 --> 25:09.902 [SPEAKER_01]: So Faraday, I guess, too, I, those are kind of the two I'd land on. 25:10.002 --> 25:14.807 [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's so many of the top guys that were easy picks to get promoted, they just did it in April. 25:15.007 --> 25:15.928 [SPEAKER_01]: So it's just kind of whatever. 25:17.221 --> 25:23.725 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Kate Anderson, there was an interesting Jerry to put a quote going around to where he was basically like, hey, most of our top guys are a triple life for like two seconds. 25:23.805 --> 25:25.406 [SPEAKER_00]: And I envision Kate being a similar thing. 25:25.466 --> 25:30.769 [SPEAKER_00]: So like, we'll Kate make it to the future's game in five days tune in to find out. 25:30.929 --> 25:37.973 [SPEAKER_00]: But I think that the Mariners fast tracking him is a distinct possibility, either pre or post deadline, honestly, post all star break. 25:37.993 --> 25:46.398 [SPEAKER_00]: This might be his last gas because of minor league or we wish you the very best as you, along with us, take this journey of watching the MLB draft right into the future's 25:46.978 --> 25:52.979 [SPEAKER_00]: right into the all star festivities in the all star break will be taking you through the break into the second half as a trade, a lot of approaches. 25:53.260 --> 25:57.200 [SPEAKER_00]: Give it to the best content we can here in the baseball insiders and fan cited MLB network of sites. 25:57.221 --> 26:00.981 [SPEAKER_00]: So please join Eric and I next week for a wrap up recap. 26:01.001 --> 26:04.662 [SPEAKER_00]: We'll get you a podcast after the draft will do the best we can join the baseball insiders. 26:04.882 --> 26:10.404 [SPEAKER_00]: Please subscribe on either your favorite podcast platform or on YouTube until next time I'm out of winter for Eric Cole. 26:10.724 --> 26:11.384 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