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[SPEAKER_03]: Tonight's guest is a very special friend of mine for 50 years.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Now how many people can say you have a friend for 50 years?

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[SPEAKER_03]: I am blessed because I can say it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know him, we've gone through so many things in our lives, friendships, even roommates, meetings, celebrities like Sonatra and becoming friends with them.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You're going to hear more stories about Elvis and

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[SPEAKER_03]: all the accolades and stars that is still on television.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I can't wait for you to meet him.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We're going to go to a commercial break.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'll be right back.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Welcome, everybody.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm so happy to be able to tell you tonight that we are expanding, not only the show, not only how you can participate,

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[SPEAKER_03]: and share it to so many different facets of my life and the life of this podcast and the world we created.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We are gonna expand our family.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You're gonna have an opportunity to actually join our family and I'll be up to you how far you go in our family by the purchases of things we're putting out to you.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The opportunities that you can take advantage of

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[SPEAKER_03]: having me visit your home while you have 10 people for dinner.

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[SPEAKER_03]: There's so many things that you're going to be so excited.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Just go to HollywoodGodfatherFamily.com and we'll have all the information you want and believe me.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I want you in my family.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Don't let me come look at that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, we just came out of her a commercial break.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I have now, one of my closest friends to so many many years, and this show was gonna be so exciting for all of you, because the legendary Larry Manetti is joining us from his home in California.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Larry, my man, how are you?

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's been crazy, hasn't it, man?

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[SPEAKER_03]: I love it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, it's a friendship for 50 years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What a marvelous thing.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And you know, I find so interesting that we met in Chicago.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I mean, just what you're back around and all the people that they will know you now.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But then you were operating a restaurant.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, exactly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I opened the company pride in Chicago and World Bad Chef.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think we're having our grand opening.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Godfather was like everywhere.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And your face was everywhere.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody knew Gianni Russo.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And next year I know that Gene Somorale and Nick Nitty came down to stairs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I looked up, he said, holy, never.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's Gianni Russo.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I remember I was in heaven and we were in the downstairs the restaurant.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There was a great big bar with a piano.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you look, you said, oh, marvelous.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love the piano.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that time it didn't know you were a singer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We just got along grandly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it was a terrific friendship from the start.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No, you know what I'm saying, you're saying that when I met you, I thought that I knew you already, you know, and that's your kind of personality, and that's who you are.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And later on, as we move on into this conversation, and we could talk as long as we were on because that's how important you are in my life.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And the thing is that,

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[SPEAKER_03]: you start from an arrest warrant, you know every entity in the world and everybody else that powers to be and they all supported you when they all loved you.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And the next thing I know, you and I are moving into an apartment in that way together.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, you know, I had ambitions to be an actor.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was acting in Chicago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I had done a United Airlines commercial and a movie with my cello mastery, I mean.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I just said, hey, stupid, you're not gonna go anywhere.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're gonna be a bum.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I got in my car, which was in 1972, 12 cylinder Jaguar.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I remember it well in the driveway.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he got me in a lot of cars and I'm telling you, I drove Delay and we were in an apartment.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a two-bedroom apartment, I'd go around and have a new one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And West Delay and Brentwood.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Which was a great neighborhood even then, it's still great, great area.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But you know, like you pointed out,

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[SPEAKER_03]: Our driveway was very impressive.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We had Jaguars and Ferraris.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, we had the greatest cars.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And Bentley, we had the Bentley, too, doesn't it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He went the proud beautiful Bentley that I got.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't wait until I convertible.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I bought a 47 kennel I convertible.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I bus went busted.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I ran out of money, but you helped.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But the interesting thing, the good news about you and we both had a mutual friend that I met in Chicago and you mentioned Nick Nitty and Gene Somerelli who basically were the nemesis getting us together and then we just hit it off.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But they introduced, I think, both of us to a guy called Jack Jallotti.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Jack Jallotti, from ICM, agency,

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[SPEAKER_03]: and you were with that to the party and they told me to go with them and they said that a nice attack from Chicago, I said Nick and most people didn't realize how thick Nick and I were already because we kept that under the wraps with the guidance of Tony Accardo but we were doing a lot of business Nick and I already me

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[SPEAKER_03]: being around Costello and Nick obviously being around the card until he died, fortunately, talking about a gentleman.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But we had so much at our fingertips and people supporting us of that magnitude.

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[SPEAKER_03]: There was no way we could not make it really.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We could be the only ones that screw it up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's true, it's a, that's a fact in those guys who's going to say no.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I know, well, and funniest thing, and we did everything on our power almost screwed up, too.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I can remember going to the candy store almost every night in Bebbo.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We were like the two James boys.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, I mean, and you know, you were so good looking on, we still aren't going to say that though.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We aged well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, so we took, yeah, you listen, you were a handsome man, now we had the world by ask me no questions, you know, I'll tell you in our lives.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I remember once that there was a girl on the roof of our apartment building,

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[SPEAKER_01]: in the late 80 came up and banged down her apartment door.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I said, what is it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I figured, oh my god, we'll be hanging the ramp.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And she said, there's a girl at the roof that said she's gonna jump in less than a minute.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So come to her and I say, Rozo, Mary Lou is at the roof.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You said, Lutter Joe.

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[UNKNOWN]: Ha ha ha ha ha ha.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That sounds like right.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We should have put a turned style on that abomin.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That front door was so active, it was crazy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's true, we had a lot of thought.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, but we were, but Eastern fun.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we, we, in Eastern fun, we weren't, you know, doing anything crazy, just having, what we did, you know, you remember Alan Smiley?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, my God, do I ever?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, so the people out there know, Alan Smiley,

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[SPEAKER_01]: was partners with then-seal, bugs-e-seal, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we became friends with him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he just was enamored with the two of us, and would come over all the time.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And we would visit him on his bottom and don't he need to try to remember it well?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we had a good time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we really didn't know how powerful a guy he was.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, just a lot of our audience know, Allen Smiley, they said we were there, was on the couch at Virginia Hills House when both of these secret got shot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they shot him in the air.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I know.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's crazy.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They shot over him.

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[SPEAKER_03]: through the window and they killed bugsy.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I mean, we, you and I could probably just do a series on our friends.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's not it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's not it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's not it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll be on.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's not it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All entertainers need all kinds of people in what life and we met a lot of different people and gangsters, politicians.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I remember when I went from my first gaming license in Nevada, and I knew the investigation where they were going.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I was basically groomed by a guy called Jeffrey Silver, who was the head of the gaming commission, and some of our friends had hired him as a lawyer now, and I did, and before the gaming board came together, I said, I'd like to address the board before we go on record.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And they're looking at this pompous, in my 20s or 30s at the time.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I said, you know, I want to know, is this.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I know every mobster in the country, like every other entertainment, knows every mobster in the country.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You will never work if you don't know them.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They own old and my clubs.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I went through a whole list of the surveillance and Kansas city.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I took the wind out of their balloon.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I said, I'm willing right now because I know this is a big decision for you to make.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You can give me a temporary license for a year.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'll put up a million dollar bond and if I blow it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's on me and they all looked at each other.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Because people were actually taking bet.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I wouldn't get a license and I got it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, that's true, that's great.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But you had a great relationship, as I remember, who I think directly and indirectly helped you along was Robby Conrad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Bobby Conrad, well, Robert Conrad, well, you know Robert Conrad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but not in the middle is saying, Tiany, Tiany, Tiany Rousseau is a character.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he was a big help to me in my career.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But refreshing our audience because a lot of people don't know about one-wall West.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Some of these people, you know, they had to quit it, and fortunately, I touch four different generations of the world.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I can't believe I got millennians.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't even know who they are.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But they're out.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I got a big following.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You won't believe it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But let them know.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I've thought you're a friend of Bob Conrad.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's a funny story.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Bobby Conrad is a throwback to Earl Flint.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He feared nobody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was a professional fighter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Jenny, if you remember one of the best fucking guys I'm TV.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh my god, y'all.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And dressed well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he was a real class act.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, if he were tall,

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was five foot eight, five six seven and a half.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But if he were taller, he wouldn't have been a major star.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But I, you know, I, about, look at the major stars today.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, most people don't realize they're all that height.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, but you know, short of it not, and definitely, you know, Stallone, well, they, they really don't want big guys because the women and they can't pair the bright.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So, but he, he had a career on television.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was, I think, five years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And after well-west, he wound up getting a Bob O'Black sheep.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was still, you know, scrounging around, hoping for a shot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he said, man, Eddie, don't drink, don't play, go to bed early because tomorrow you got an interview at Universal Studios.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and I went into the University of front of Steve Cannell had an audition for Bob O'Blaekchee and it was all his doing.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah, I know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I got it and the next thing I know, I was the next morning I was out of this set.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I had a pinch myself but that's a real guy.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh no man, that's why I wanted to bring it up because we always hear the horror stories out of these people don't help.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We had a lot of help from good friends

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think the audience are going to hear a lot more stories about that because I remember when you got Bobo actually that was I mean a huge break and you mentioned the guy who we all became friends with later on Steven Canal.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean I did like sick shows for him myself I couldn't believe it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Steven Canal was you know as they say these guys were benches and

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[SPEAKER_01]: They don't, they're just not around anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I met some very, very badly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: These were real men.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you had the guts, if you had the talent, and you walked through the door, they would say, you walked through the door, you warned it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like you did, Jenny.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I remember walking in Beverly Hills with you, and you would sing in the doorways of office buildings, where the glass was.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, here by substance rebounded, you know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I know.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's crazy.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's crazy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What do they call redness answer?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not redness answer, whatever you call it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Reverb from the windows, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, I remember all that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No, no.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But Alan Smiley, to get back to it, isn't it?

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, just that guy alone.

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[SPEAKER_03]: When you do the history,

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I mean, he, him and Mickey Cohen in a couple other people out there, they actually created a lot of the unions and controlled them and for very close friends of ours, especially in Chicago, and they still run those unions.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's why you never see strikes out there.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They don't know how to organize labor.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you know, think about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: For most people don't realize,

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[SPEAKER_01]: that your old tells and casinos today were built by my mother oh my god yeah all of it the unions and teams and yeah and they infiltrated Vegas and Jack dragged up oh my god we haven't and Sam jeep gana took it over and then the Chicago mob will arrest his history right

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[SPEAKER_03]: I remember the war was early on, because a lot of people don't realize, you know, I actually went to LA in Vegas in 1957 and 58.

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[SPEAKER_03]: More than before I got involved in the film business, I was just a messenger for Costello and it only came out in my book two years ago about what I was doing because I was, you know, I was making good money and but yeah, I couldn't tell anybody, but when you see what they've done,

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[SPEAKER_03]: and organized it so well.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I even borrowed 73 million from the Teamstus.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Thank God I never drew it down because I would have been jailbar.

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[SPEAKER_03]: that you can get if they like you to the give it to I went to see Korky Sevalet at a club called what was in Mama's in Kansas City and he told me what do you want I wrote it on an napkin and next thing you know I had somebody called me from the team's isn't a gate got my lawyers and they they gave me a loan a construction home.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, the surveillance.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I remember him.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, those days are going now.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, my God.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And believe it or not, I think this country is suffering badly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, people will from when I say this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But when the mob was around, there was a lot of problems that were solved.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There was hardly rapes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There was decertaled a lot of stuff,

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[SPEAKER_03]: But I, you know, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now what is your dinner?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody was polite.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now everybody in Vegas, we're a little sandals short of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They know I'm safe, it's disgusting.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That the class is gone, the service is gone.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And that was another home.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Awakening for you and I when we got to the stardust hotel, we were treated like kings And I talked to Gil Cohen.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and I know you do too.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think and these people like Yale Cohen Yale Cohen was like I used to go and go in late and night to the Aladdin to play Farrow Bank.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't even know what that game was

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[SPEAKER_03]: And this guy was a, when you're fine out about his history, now he's passed, we could talk about it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He was a bodyguard for Capone.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Capone.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was one tough guy.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh my god, you see his hands, but I don't forget about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he was a tough guy and a guy and one time I was there I think you were with me because you went many on the strength you I started playing cramps didn't know how oh my god And started getting stuck and Yale was off work

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, if there's one that doesn't end.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he came over, grabbed the dice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was a wonder.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he got my money back and then he picked me up at the seat of the pants and he says, not get out of the box.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, we all had one demon around us when it came to gambling.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It was Jean Cimarelli.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I never saw a worse gambling in the world.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He never won.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I know when he was always barred money from me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He should sign this walk of a man Remember he would get drunk or Until he literally fell off the black check table.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I know and then he would call his brother and say

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, I need 40,000.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's craziness.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, those were then, then, then, then, then, then, then the bomb, oh, my dear.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They had all these characters.

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[SPEAKER_01]: To pick Willie, I mean, it remember all sacks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What a general.

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[SPEAKER_03]: What a gentleman he was.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, you and he got really close.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Because I remember that a few times you actually came down on his plane and he's went to have dinner at Pierreos and come to see me late at night at the stage street.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you know, L-Sax's father was Mike Sacks, who was with Capone.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was with Covell.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The first person I met in Chicago, I had seen my book and I never forget it, because Stella was just to me, go to Chicago tomorrow and when somebody will meet you at the airport, you're going to go to Palmer House and meet this guy and give him this envelope.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's okay.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I've been doing this already two or three years with this guy, I started running, you know, Aaron Smith when I was 16 after I got in the polio ward.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And so I go there and they bring me over to this guy, Sidney Corshack, oh my god, the lawyer.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So he says to me, you to kid, I said, yeah, he's giving me that envelope.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I was like, I gave him the envelope, we read it, and he takes out a page, and he says, sign here and I signed it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And there was like 10,000 or 15,000 in there that Costello Central, he's now I can talk to you.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I said, what are you talking about?

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[SPEAKER_03]: He said, you just retained me as you legal counsel.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's how smart these guys were.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I never figured that that's pretty cool.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Because that's when they were starting for me to run around to get JFK, the senator, nominated for the Democrats for the presidency.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And those yeah two or three you know that's a big thing with me jamming.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I tried to get a movie off the ground called double cross.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There was written by Sam Jean Canna Jr. You might have some insight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I believe that the mob is heartless as it is killed Kennedy.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, they had, there was, they had three shooters on site.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I know that sort of Linda Mayn Johnson.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but if you do your homework, you know that what would I play tennis name, the as well.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Right, Leo.

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[SPEAKER_01]: As well as friends with Jake will be in the Dallas map.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, Jack will be actually worked for Custello and Agado because he ran all their gaming out there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I didn't know that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, no.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's why the research we did on my book, and that's why even the publishers were saying, oh, you were going to get sued.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I said, I'll let them the fire right now and then make Milan who own St. Martin, press in your United States.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They, they did their research, and they said, the case right, and I was up at Cal Niva because Frank or Stella wouldn't go anywhere anymore after that Fiasco at the up in the CAD skills.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I was just eyes and ears and Sam Gene kind of was there with Sonatra and my Roman role and Mount Monroe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know that whole story.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I got all the pictures.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the men you do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have everyone.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You show.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I got to send you my book.

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[SPEAKER_03]: This pictures me there.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I read you book.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But then there's pictures in there of me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, just got it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I got it here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll do you know, somebody punched Sam Gene Kennedy there in the face that he was around the world's manager and Frank, you know, he, on that weekend, not that weekend.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think no.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No, not that weekend.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It could have happened.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But it didn't.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That weekend was so tense because they set up Mowland's room, Sam did it because they

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[SPEAKER_03]: Bobby Kennedy, because now Bobby was related to her, we have to be John became president.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He took her away from John because, you know, John promised her once he became president, he'd marry her.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's how naive she was.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And John pulled her and everybody else away from him.

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[SPEAKER_03]: JFK, even Sinatra, which he got pissed over that, which I know you know about that, I think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That came out later, because I mean, we model this whole house for secret service, hell of pads, and everything, and they wouldn't go.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But I was there for those three days, and then on August 4th, they killed her.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We can four days after she left there, because she's I'm going to the press, because nobody realized that

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[SPEAKER_03]: John promised the hit marry of which is ridiculous and that Bobby made her aboard a child the rich She always wanted but he already had five kids with ethyl And my god nobody knew this and so not just trying to convince her just go to your room We're gonna send John in we're gonna set him up your room has already set up with cameras and sand didn't at all Sam wanted this

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[SPEAKER_03]: because they, you know, they did that in Chicago because J. Gohubo was a cross dresser and they had all the pictures of them in that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's why he always, yeah, it's crazy stuff, you can't believe it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, wasn't that Kenny in the guy's father?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then they have a guy that was a cross-trust.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, they didn't.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Godfather, two or three, they made the senator up there when he didn't get right.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, one thing about Mario Puzzo, he did a great book and pieced it from real people.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like the olive oil guy was a very close friend of mine.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm still friends with his son, John Papaji, Joe Papaji had all the olive oil.

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[SPEAKER_03]: and Costello had all the politicians and the police department and the old man that he groomed to look like was called O'Gambeno.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So he put three Godfathers together to create Don Coddley on.

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[SPEAKER_03]: All of that was part of American history that was stolen from pure facts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's wonderful.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Mario Puzzle was neat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I went to his home in Malibu.

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[SPEAKER_01]: with Diana Belmonty, who was his secretary.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he said, sit out and get and he made me spaghetti.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he was that a guy of many words.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was like a little husky guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I said, you know, I'm an actor.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He says, that's nice.

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[UNKNOWN]: Ha ha ha ha.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That sounds like a kick.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was the end of my hope.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No, I mean, he, uh, I had him as a house guest at the, at the Confillum Festival because when they, when they premiered Superman between Godfather one and two and three,

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[SPEAKER_03]: Nobody realized he wrote Superman and that's when Maulim Brando played the father to Superman.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, that's right.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And they were, they were my housecasts because Johnny and Ellie, yeah, who I got friends with through the years through the Vatican, all that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He used to give me his house, everybody thought I had a house to have nothing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I remember, well, I don't know if I should mention this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You had your roles, Royce, you were dating like so.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, oh my God.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and cheat, sit down in the hood.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then one, one day about five o'clock at night, you had a few more datings.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She was sitting at no one, and you started the car and drove away.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There was, there was a great site.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No, a lot, lies there as you know, we had a great friendship through the years.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I remember the night I was, I was talking about Yale's wife Toby and I had somebody, and his daughter, Debbie, and they were late for the show.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I picked them up at Caesis.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I came down and only you and I remembered this.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The starters had those windows.

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[SPEAKER_03]: There was no doors.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It was wind that kept the hot air out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it is to blow right.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I was late.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I drove in and drove them as you know the doorway to Oh, they betrayed drove them sack the building.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I drove it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you were nuts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There you did it before evil.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Can evil.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I know those them drove their car in the little bit.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that was evil.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That was evil.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No, shecky did too.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Shecky flipped this car in the fountain at Caesar's.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he said no way.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, the whole

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a guy used to get drunk, but I mean, he's still around, you know?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Why not?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Shaky's in his 90s.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They have breakfast with my business partner, believe it or not, in Chicago, Greco and son, and Greco and son distributes all of my products to quarterly on family food line.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And these people are amazing, but why I bring it up?

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[SPEAKER_03]: The father retired there.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And he loves all these guys.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So he has brunch.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You will believe this at the Green Valley.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Shekki, Pat Cooper.

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[SPEAKER_03]: All these, what's in the, the other guy with the wild hair.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, Marty.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Marty.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He has breakfast in Marty.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And his son, who I'm very close to Eddie Greco Jr.,

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[SPEAKER_03]: He said that I don't understand you have markers in that hotel.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You don't gamble.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He's all right by Kino tickets for these guys.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He don't realize these guys are major stars, but they're well feeding off of him.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, they're buying them a free lunch.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They're there every day.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So he always caught that every day with these guys I love it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I got it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There was weird things going on there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh my god.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I remember some guy picking up a slot machine and throwing and I'm the floor, and I don't know where somebody came and grabbed them around the net and started with, I mean, that's one thing about Vegas and again, to bring up what you pointed out, when the mob ran it, there was no problems.

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[SPEAKER_03]: they would finish it then and then and you and I and we spent so much time and Vegas as we did in Beverly Hills, but the story is that I remember Johnny that some woman complained to security that some guy grunked her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and the security didn't even make it to the guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A couple of guys grabbed them, pull them in the stairway while you have it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It just came out of shellacking.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And everybody knew, you don't cheat in paradise, dice anything in any of the mob joints, or you'll get your kneecaps taken off.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But you know, there's a lot to be said about that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: First of all, you're the one that's cheating.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And, you know, I can't remember.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I was like 17 when I went to the sand's hotel.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I thought I'd want to have it because before that, I was in New York.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I went nowhere and to see who you've got very close to.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The first time I saw the rat pack, I saw the one stage and I met Sonatra at the Copa.

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[SPEAKER_03]: When I was 13 or 14 years of age, because they're all on that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And now you know as they did be with you, they all once they know who you're around and you're part of the group, man, that's it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, once you're right, because once they see you with one or two of those guys, and then they see it again, you're part of the family, that's it, the arm is around you.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No, I love it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and when we were young before I met you,

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[SPEAKER_01]: when I go into the nightclubs there in Chicago, to me, to these used to walk up to me, I wasn't even over the drink.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they had these cheap, crummy suits, and the guy would grab me and say, Mr. Mad, they come with me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And everybody was given the guy 20 bucks and in those days, they was picked up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I look in the end of and say, I don't have any money.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't worry about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my God.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You were around everybody, like me.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, it's so nice that to have you reflecting on what I wrote about, because there's no one else in my life that knows me the way you did in the experience we've had.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And it's just, we just took it for granted.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, if people don't know about you, and I do, you didn't know Griffin, and Jeser Gabor was there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She couldn't take her eyes off the old.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was awesome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, my God, and you took her out a few times.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, remember, Griffin had you back and the show wanted to know, well, Gianni, what happened when today was Jeser Gabor?

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[SPEAKER_03]: You remember what you said?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, my God, it was the same.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I still don't know who that girl was.

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[SPEAKER_03]: This one, there's talking about where he has to be taken to the premiere.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No, when he asked about Jay, Jay, I'm talking about Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay, Jay,

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[SPEAKER_03]: They did a show with Hollywood tough guys.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Obviously, Bob Conrad was first on, then James Conne.

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[SPEAKER_03]: There was so many else, and then me, because I was like the new guy in the bot with the godfather.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And that's when that guy Vince and Teresa just ratted out on everybody.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And they were filming on Hollywood Boulevard.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's when it was delayed filming.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And the FBI had Vincent Theresa gawded on the stage and they were shooting them through a silhouette screen.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I come out and Bob Conner, everybody sitting nice, we always didn't, they moved down for me to sit next to him or he said, what are you laughing about?

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[SPEAKER_03]: I said, well, I'm the highest paid guy I've ever done television.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He said, what are you talking about?

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[SPEAKER_03]: I said, that's Vincent Theresa.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He said, we know that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I said, well, the mob is looking for him.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I just called and told him where he is.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The FBI, they all jumped on them.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They thought it was going straight out.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Wasn't going out.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I played it in the open.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Funny.

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[SPEAKER_03]: My Bob Conrad was rolling out in the floor.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He's just so nuts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, Bobby Conrad loved, he loved gangsters.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, my God.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There you have it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Almost got him in trouble without mentioning anything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He wouldn't make a tunnel in the street, the Atlantic Ocean.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he would say to me, I want you to meet a bell, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I look at the guy and I'd say, well, I knew this case that's up 10.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it would be Jake's round.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, my God.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, but Conrig was the funny guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He really was a real match guy.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, my God.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, Jackie's a legitimate guy.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, we in the father of Sr.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You don't see it out of the sun.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I do the sun yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's a nice kid.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, a lawyer, a legitimate guy.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I mean, that's why I knew we need to do two episodes.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And we're going to keep talking if you're up to it because we didn't even touch on anything at him.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, the stuff that we

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[SPEAKER_03]: I would like to talk about it, and anything you want to talk about, we can do in the next, well, let's keep going here for 10, 15 moments.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Then we'll take a break and start another show, but you want, I mean, talking about power the pen, I don't think all we did was ever give tip money.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They wouldn't even take our money in Vegas.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's right, everything was our FB room food and beverage and nobody I I don't know that I learned that I always had to put on my shirts RF beer like that You know, it's funny when I go to Vegas even today I'm still our RF beer different hotels.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, that's because of the certain vision and movie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, that's the only thing that's the same in Las Vegas

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[SPEAKER_01]: Everything else is changing.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh my god, Neha.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They asked me to go a couple of times.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I've been blessed.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I turned my book into a musical.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I got nine casinos that I'm doing it in at the Moe he can son who still run a very good tight ship.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And Tom can't tell and go bless him.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, this guy has never stopped giving me work.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And like you said, to go to Vegas now and they made a big mistake.

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[SPEAKER_03]: coming back after this pandemic.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if you're heard about it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They offered all the rooms at such minimal costs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That people will come in three or four people staying in a room.

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[SPEAKER_03]: None of the people they want there.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And they were abusing high rollers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's just hard to explain.

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[SPEAKER_01]: As I said, suit and tie for all right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There was no rhinestones, I don't know anybody it was, no baby crebs, I mean, and today, I don't know if you've gone to the shows, I went to a show, oh, maybe 10 years ago, and it was just changing over, you know, from suit and ties to sneakers, oh, I know, and the show,

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[SPEAKER_01]: We were put into a seat, the seat was crummy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you didn't have a choice or anybody to go to the state.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's here.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No, when we used to go, he said King's role.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We knew every matrix did it was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I remember when you used to sing in the lounge yet to start us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, all the people were staring out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the peak, there were great people singing there.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, Freddie Bell always helped me, you know.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, that's what we're talking about, you know, you and I could go into the Sanso Tell every night and see Louie Freeman, Sanbutara.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And every place was a place to be.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And that's why we never went home.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Mom, it's rain.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We call it, you know, it's like, I think we roll in around six or seven.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I remember James tomorrow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, my God.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One night, it was seven in the morning and his wife was standing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Rosemary.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Camping her foot.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And James was still a half in the bag.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He looked up and he said, I hope you didn't pay the ransom.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Now he is a tell you, what a class act.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And the last one is still, I mean, Rosemy is still going, God bless it, thank God.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, well, he died the way he went to die.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I know, you don't want to talk about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's like, it's for an every man dreams to die and what?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I mean, you know what, and it's like you say, we know so many people and they're children that you don't know what he can say about him because the kids are around now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you can't, you know, you don't wanna bring up old, old, old, old, old, old, old.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm still friends with John Nitty, man, he's like, I was, I went through the older brother, Nick and the daughters, and Nick Nitty and I, until the day he died, I mean, I met him soon after, as I met, Sydney, Koshak, we started going places and picking up money into living money, but we will legit of a guy's doing it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But we made somebody trip to Nevada, and they thought I was going to become Pope.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, tell everybody who Nick, Nick, was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If I'm going to have mistaken, he was the cousin of the original

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[SPEAKER_03]: became very powerful with nitty-travel, because he helped every tiny American, I mean he had deals with ill-o-american, I mean, I'll tell you, nobody had, but then they started junkage.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And he was bringing 10, 15,000 people a month to Vegas.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, tell him what was fire was.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I told you a car.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, well, configure it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I told you what I'm saying, you know, and you know, I remember once that my daddy

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[SPEAKER_01]: old money to nitty-travel.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, as all the Italians in that era, you know, they might have figured out about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, Nick Nitty was lit a couple of guys and this guy grabs me and looks at necuses.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then this kid's all man

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, tell you all, man, I'm gonna kick you in the ass.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you don't pay up somebody, I, you're all in that vote, anybody.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He just played a game.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I know you're dad.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, God.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, he's... That was in the old, the day and never.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I'm not having you.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Hello.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right now.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I ran everything.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They were still down there.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Love, and it's funny because John Niddy and I, as I said, he was the youngest of them all.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I traveled with him and his little sister, they were in eight and nine years old.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And now when you know, we have a business together and I, in Chicago.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But it's so funny going back into time and guys

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[SPEAKER_03]: Because, you know, fortunately, you and I aged well, and we started so early, people said, well, how the hell old are you?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Because to say, you know, I was at the Democratic Convention.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I was just turning 18, but Custella wasn't going to go and he gave me the tickets.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And so not to produce that night.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So again, you know, people were talking to me like, who's this guy?

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[SPEAKER_03]: They thought I was some, you know, diplomat son of something.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I was a bum, forgot about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, you know, and I was a kid.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My mother and father had a fruit and vegetable stand on grand Avenue and that's where we're all them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my God, I swear.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what they're telling me about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They used to sell watermelons and I have to go there and work and I'll never forget it because

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[SPEAKER_01]: In some guy walked as my own man and he said, hey Mario, come on with me, I want you to come in the office and get something for me in my fantasies.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey Lorenzo, you're head on the front.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He went in the office and he got a machine gun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was the same.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh my, I don't know the ground, I know, it's crazy times.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I tell you though, I probably went about to say, all my friends are pure in New York.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to be the one thing I love about Chicago.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think it was better run than the five feet in the New York.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They were more organized.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Over here, I think the ego's gotten away.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think as life went on, it proved to be the demise of it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: John got into Troy, New York.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they used to play amongst themselves themselves.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And where the effort was so run like a business,

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[SPEAKER_03]: They ran it like an organization and I spent so much time there for as you know, I've spent a lot of time in Chicago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I remember I was at the Blue Max room, Nick Nitty booked me there.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I was there from a Thursday Friday and Saturday.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I called Mario downstairs and made her day and said, how we don't for reservations.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He's all your sold out tonight.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I said Sunday.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's crazy and had Liza come on stage.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's why I was doing such business because she was about to invest in a lease.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh hell.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sinatra used to think the old 12th floor and all those guys they destroyed the 12th floor and I remember Tony Curtis was walking around in the lobby and they said, what are you looking for?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I found out later, he lost his toothache.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You were able to remember when you were with Tony and Curtis, you didn't love Keith.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I love that movie.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, Tony Curtis, and we hit it up well for years.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The funniest thing with Tony Curtis when, well, that's a close shack, as you know,

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[SPEAKER_03]: And so when I was going out there a lot, he called Jimmy and the other guy, Caspa, how do I remember these names?

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[SPEAKER_03]: And he said, when this kid is in there, he don't pay.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He said, what's his name?

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[SPEAKER_03]: He said, the kid, just known by the kid.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Nobody knew my name actually until I became an actor.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Everybody knew me as the kid, because nobody was supposed to know me.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So, Cindy Koshak calls me and he says, how much do you weigh now, Johnny?

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's what?

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[SPEAKER_03]: He's how much do you weigh?

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[SPEAKER_03]: I said, that's a strange question.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Is it why do you find a strange question?

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[SPEAKER_03]: I said, I just want to know how much you weigh.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I said, why?

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[SPEAKER_03]: He's the amount of checks you're signing in my restaurant.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You've got to be 500 pounds by now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's funny, which I think that was the funniest thing in the world, but yeah, with this day, they used to call from the pet and call other hotels and book us everywhere, shows and, I guess they had a reciprocary of the word, which showed me more than anyone.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No, they don't do that at all.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No, everything is strict.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Each corporation runs it as a private enterprise.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You can't come, anybody, unless they got a credit line in your hotel.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, to me, it's like what you and I experienced.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's our children who'll never see it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Most people will never see it again.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Because that's what Vegas was about.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That was the magic of it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And, you know, and fortunately for me and you,

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[SPEAKER_03]: we could sit and reflect on it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's you know such great memories.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I remember one in horses around here.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Huh?

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[SPEAKER_01]: They used to ride horses back around the strip.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah, Ralph Lam ran that like a tough, I mean, he, him and Darwin Lam, they were really cowboys.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That was great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And tie them up outside the other top.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know what's that Benny Binion?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh my god, well they work out boys downtown, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah, Benny Boyan.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The Boyd Family.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The Boyd.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you didn't pay your debts, it'd Benny Binion.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh my god, don't forget about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: For under a cash case.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to can I imply on our friendship and this show and have you back on?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, sure.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Please.

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[SPEAKER_03]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We have a commercial break.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm going to say goodbye to my friend, but he's coming back for next week's show.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you, G.I.V.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Love you.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Love you, Larry.

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[UNKNOWN]: Thank you, G.I.V.

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[UNKNOWN]: Love you, Larry.

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[UNKNOWN]: Thank you, G.I.V.

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[UNKNOWN]: Love you, Larry.

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[UNKNOWN]: Thank you, G.I.V.

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[UNKNOWN]: Love you, Larry.

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[UNKNOWN]: Thank you, G.I.V.

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[UNKNOWN]: Love you, Larry.

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[UNKNOWN]: Thank you, G.I.V.

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[UNKNOWN]: Love you, Larry.

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[UNKNOWN]: Thank you, G.I.V.

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[UNKNOWN]: Love you, Larry.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you, G.I.V.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Love you, Larry.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you, G.I.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Love you, Larry.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you, G.I.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Love you, Larry.

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[SPEAKER_02]: My friends, I'll see you clean, I'll skate my case, all in which I'm certain.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you for tuning in to the Hollywood Godfather podcast.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But more, much more than this, I did it my way.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Although at times I'm sure you move, when I move more than I can chew, but through it all, when there were doubt,

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[SPEAKER_02]: And spit it out, and eyes to toe, and throw it all.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't mind the way.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I've loved, I've left him crying.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I had my share, my full of losing,

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[SPEAKER_02]: I find it all so amusing to think I did all this And when I sing, I'm not in a shy way Oh no, I know that neither I did it my way Oh what is it man?

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[SPEAKER_02]: What has it got?

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[SPEAKER_02]: If my soul, then he is not To say the things you truly feel And not the words I want to hear the wreckage show I took the blows And in it

