[SPEAKER_00]: Hello everyone and welcome to the Delta Flyers journey through the wormhole with quark dags and their good friends, Tom and Harry.
[SPEAKER_00]: Join us as we make our way through episodes of Star Trek Deep Space 9.
[SPEAKER_01]: Your host for today are my fellow track actors, Terry Farrell, Robert Duncan McNeill, and Myself, Garrett Wong.
[SPEAKER_00]: Myself, our Irish buddy, Gawa.
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe I was thinking about eating some type of cereal like that has leprechauns in it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Ooh, lucky chance.
[SPEAKER_01]: Lucky chance!
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you really eat lucky chance?
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe.
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe.
[SPEAKER_00]: No.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm cuckoo for Cocoa.
[SPEAKER_02]: Broody Pebbles are my jam.
[SPEAKER_00]: Captain Crunch used to be my favorite.
[SPEAKER_02]: Really?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: There was Crunch Berry and the Crunch Peanut ones.
[SPEAKER_00]: Remember?
[SPEAKER_00]: My mom didn't like it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Was this often?
[SPEAKER_02]: Was there something called Franken puffs or Frankenberry?
[SPEAKER_00]: Frank and Barry.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, it was so good.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Frank and Barry, sir.
[SPEAKER_00]: Gosh, the 70s were so bad for our bodies.
[SPEAKER_01]: My go to was Coco Pebbles.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm not just one ball.
[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't because you know how you eat the cereal and they're still milk left.
[SPEAKER_01]: Then I would pour more cereal in to fill up on top of the milk that was left.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it was now chocolate milk because the cocoa pebbles.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, of course.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you know what I do now, as I use that, you know, Elizabeth's like granola.
[SPEAKER_00]: I put the hunt ice cream at night.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And if there's leftover cereal, I just had more ice cream.
[SPEAKER_00]: My mom used to do that once in a while as a treat, put a scoop of ice cream in our reason brand.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that sounds amazing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's really good.
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't eat, raise some brand anymore, but...
[SPEAKER_01]: which makes so think you know you know the froze what is it fried ice cream that you can get at a Mexican restaurant where they take a ball of ice cream they put batter around it and fry that you could do that yes you could do a batter of crunched up raisin bran around it and then you see them saying and then or the Elizabeth which is gluten free.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: The vanilla almond has six grams of protein too, and I would like to add to that.
[SPEAKER_02]: And this is not a paid ad for Elizabeth's granola.
[SPEAKER_00]: Although if there was a commercial to be made, I would be so happy to do it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Elizabeth's granola, if you're listening, Terry would be a big fan of doing ads.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, so good.
[SPEAKER_00]: And now she has one with flakes and they're crunchy.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's we add the milk.
[SPEAKER_00]: It takes a minute for it.
[SPEAKER_00]: They don't get soggy right away like raisin brand.
[SPEAKER_01]: You should be the spokeswoman.
[SPEAKER_01]: You should be the spokeswoman for Elizabeth's.
[SPEAKER_01]: You really should be.
[SPEAKER_01]: Or you should just make your own granola and call it your Terry's.
[SPEAKER_01]: Your ice cream that you get, Terry Fair, is it a specific brand?
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you have to have hog and dyes?
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you have, what do you go for for ice cream?
[SPEAKER_00]: I am suddenly into Aldens.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've never heard of that company.
[SPEAKER_00]: Aldens.
[SPEAKER_00]: I am kind of picky about ice cream.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, hog and dyes vanilla out of this world.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the rum raisin.
[SPEAKER_02]: I like rum raisin too.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what?
[SPEAKER_02]: When you come visit it, I have a nice cream maker, and I will make you any kind of ice cream you want.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you will.
[SPEAKER_01]: So good.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now that is an enticement.
[SPEAKER_01]: Everyone tuning in today.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now you know the way to Terry Farrell's heart.
[SPEAKER_01]: Ice cream.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: Keep that bottle of alcohol.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll take the ice cream next time Terry's in a convention instead.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just toss her pint of ice cream just throw them up instead.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to tell you because the matter because we spoke about this on this podcast.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is going to already.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is going to happen.
[SPEAKER_01]: I already know now that there will be fans.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to bring you some ice they're going to bring you ice cream.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be all melted though.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the best kind of ice cream.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to have to bring a cooler with ice in it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Aldens is your is your go to it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's a new one because it's also one of those where there aren't everything in it is natural.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, got it.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's good.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's dense.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, but not everyone can find Aldens in their local store in the country.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm guessing it's more of a so I'm just telling the fans out.
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you want to see the dragon does?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'd love to see the label, but Hagen does is the way to go.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's got all of this.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I mean, all the things, yeah, all the things.
[SPEAKER_01]: Organic, French, vanilla, ice cream.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no jimoes, USDA, organic, which is probably super important with the cows because you know, they don't have all those hormones added ingredients, milk, cream, cane sugar, egg yolks, vanilla extract.
[SPEAKER_00]: Gorgon, locus being gum, a notto extract for color.
[SPEAKER_00]: Allergian statement contains milk and eggs.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have some gorgon in my pantry that I add to my homemade ice cream, so thicken it up a little bit.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I added to my protein shakes.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think we have some birthdays to talk about right now.
[SPEAKER_01]: We have Genie B, August 6th, happy birthday Genie B.
[SPEAKER_00]: Happy birthday, Genie B.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hope it's awesome.
[SPEAKER_01]: Happy birthday, Jenny.
[SPEAKER_00]: Rest in M, August 9th.
[SPEAKER_02]: Happy birthday, Prest in M. Happy birthday, Prest in M. Happy birthday, Prest in.
[SPEAKER_02]: One other thing we have to mention at everybody listening is that we've got some new bonus material.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're gonna be trying out, starting today.
[SPEAKER_02]: For all those Patreon members, listen up because we're gonna try to guess what the next episode is about base only on the title.
[SPEAKER_02]: And we're going to do that every week.
[SPEAKER_02]: And if you remember Terry today with the next episode title is about, you can't tell us, because Garrett and I are going to guess.
[SPEAKER_02]: And if you don't remember, you get to guess as well.
[SPEAKER_00]: Perfect.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mani Hiku for you are cordially invited is something like this.
[SPEAKER_01]: Here we go.
[SPEAKER_01]: Wedding earlier.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sirella drives Dax bonkers.
[SPEAKER_00]: Finally, Mary.
[SPEAKER_00]: Nice.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, bonkers.
[SPEAKER_01]: I like bonkers.
[SPEAKER_00]: I do like bonkers too.
[SPEAKER_01]: I chose crazy and beginning.
[SPEAKER_01]: I said, no, I'm not going to go with crazy.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm going to go with bonkers and stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it felt bonkers.
[SPEAKER_01]: What a huge episode for you.
[SPEAKER_01]: My goodness.
[SPEAKER_01]: Big big one for you for sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: And very different shades of decks that we've never seen before, which amazing six years in to see this character kind of go through things, new things like that.
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was fun.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, because every time we see you with warmth before this, you are calm, composed, or you're trying to cheer him up and make him laugh and you're the one in control.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we never see, you know, when things are bad and here we finally see things.
[SPEAKER_00]: It really bad.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think Riza was the only other time.
[SPEAKER_02]: But you were very patient.
[SPEAKER_02]: Dax was very patient.
[SPEAKER_02]: She stayed steady through that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Where is this time?
[SPEAKER_01]: You'd just like.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I lost my proposal.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, in Riza, you didn't punch anybody.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, I mean, there's nobody pulled a knife on you.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what's one of those things you go, please say that because I can't stand it in shows Where there's a tidbit of the reason why the whole thing started and nobody says it and the good guy gets in trouble And you're like, but he didn't start it Yeah, yeah, no, it was good that they they pointed that out.
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you have any poetry for us today?
[SPEAKER_02]: I do Let me explain I'm kind of scared
[SPEAKER_00]: Here we go, you are cordially invited.
[SPEAKER_00]: Freshly one freedom, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Lovers swoon in the light.
[SPEAKER_00]: Internal struggles with pride yet love conquers all who abide to their deepest truth.
[SPEAKER_00]: The spiritual journey and private sleuth.
[SPEAKER_01]: Ooh, you fit sleuth in there.
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought it's kind of odd, but they are internally figuring out what's really... Yeah, they're investigating their inner life that way, they're...
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: The stuff that you're pride in your ego block, you from.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love that.
[SPEAKER_02]: That was great.
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've got a little limerick for us goes something like this.
[SPEAKER_02]: There once was a true name, Dax, who loved a cling-on named Warf to the Max.
[SPEAKER_02]: Serela knocked her around, but Dax stood her ground, and the wedding concluded with the traditional attacks.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's awesome.
[SPEAKER_00]: Ding, ding, winner winner chicken dinner.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, thank you.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: That was awesome.
[SPEAKER_01]: Gotta start every single one with their once wasa.
[SPEAKER_00]: You did an amazing job.
[SPEAKER_01]: Think you think of anything.
[SPEAKER_01]: We have a Patreon submitted poetry winner and here we go.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not a high cue.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's Tonka.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's called Tonka.
[SPEAKER_01]: The pattern is five syllables, seven syllables, five syllables, seven syllables, seven syllables.
[SPEAKER_01]: And five, seven, five, seven, seven.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is submitted by Scott Bowling.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've never heard of Tonka or Tanka however you want to pronounce it before.
[SPEAKER_01]: You need either.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but here we go.
[SPEAKER_00]: But then on fairness, I'm not a literary major.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Just thought I should share.
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for sharing with us.
[SPEAKER_01]: You appreciate it.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, here's Scott Bowling's talk for this episode.
[SPEAKER_01]: You are cordially invited.
[SPEAKER_01]: Warf sentimental, DAX tested and defiant, chief and doc hungry, Cisco now the wise old man, Warf DAX hearts now beat as one.
[SPEAKER_00]: Nice.
[SPEAKER_01]: Very nice.
[SPEAKER_00]: Very nice.
[SPEAKER_00]: And also when I mentioned too, don't forget that, you know, Odo and Kira.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: Also have it's interesting.
[SPEAKER_00]: Their parallel love story happening.
[SPEAKER_02]: They have a parallel love story in the toilet, by the way.
[SPEAKER_00]: In the toilet.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there, know they're my closet.
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought it was a closet.
[SPEAKER_02]: Is it a toilet?
[SPEAKER_00]: Is it a toilet?
[SPEAKER_00]: No, it's my walking closet.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's on toilets.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm telling you, we'll go, oh, talk about it when we get there.
[SPEAKER_00]: I watched part two before I saw this.
[SPEAKER_00]: That was an amazing episode.
[SPEAKER_00]: And when Odo saves her, oh my God.
[SPEAKER_00]: And she asked why and he goes, I think you know why it was beautiful.
[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I just want to thank Scott Bowling for introducing us to Tongka poetry.
[SPEAKER_02]: I looked up a little.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's referred to as song poetry.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a little more maybe a lyrical in a way or the the rhyming structure than a high coup, which is can be abstract sometimes.
[SPEAKER_02]: And with the three lines of Hiku can sometimes be, you know, impressionistic, whereas the Tonka is known.
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, as being a little more lyrical, little, you know, maybe it's length and things like that, but yeah, that's great.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's amazing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but Tonka, now I kept thinking, why does that sound familiar to me?
[SPEAKER_01]: Tonka toys.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, but even go even further.
[SPEAKER_01]: And if you add another syllable in the beginning, if you say,
[SPEAKER_01]: What are you learning from dancing with wolves?
[SPEAKER_00]: Are you serious, and that stuck with you?
[SPEAKER_01]: It did.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're teaching Kevin Costner, and they're like, Taitanka, Taitanka, and so I remember.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my gosh.
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_00]: The Petrans submitted poetry on a horrible mention is a Limerick submitted by Steph Davies.
[SPEAKER_00]: Spirits on the station are surprisingly high.
[SPEAKER_00]: Mar-Talk knows a lot of paperwork is certainly not.
[SPEAKER_00]: Thumbs down for replicated wax.
[SPEAKER_00]: Surrella attacks, dacks.
[SPEAKER_00]: Worf and Judzia are happy.
[SPEAKER_00]: It is not a good date to die.
[SPEAKER_01]: Very nice.
[SPEAKER_01]: Good job.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, a little bit of facts here.
[SPEAKER_01]: Written by Ronald E. Moore, directed by David Livingston, guest ours, J. J. Hetzla, as Mar-Talk, Mark Warden, as Alexander Rojenko, Shannon Cochran, as Sarella, Chase Masterson, as Lida.
[SPEAKER_02]: Aaron Eisenberg is nog, Max Greenenshick is wrong.
[SPEAKER_01]: I have a little bit of trivia.
[SPEAKER_01]: A Paramount's promotion of this episode included an invitation, which noted Paramount cordially invites you to bear witness to the exchange of nocturals between two Star Trek series regulars for the first time in Star Trek history.
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow, I did not know that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Really, I've had a, I'm a marine assertive in Jonathan Friggs.
[SPEAKER_00]: Got married on next gen.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, in a movie or in the show, I don't know, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't watch every episode of their show or maybe it wasn't the movies.
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then Paris and and Belana get married, but that's after this.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't know that.
[SPEAKER_00]: So first to kiss a girl first to get married.
[SPEAKER_01]: So many first.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: You guys want to know what the
[SPEAKER_01]: once upon a wedding.
[SPEAKER_00]: That was the original title.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Which is kind of cute.
[SPEAKER_00]: It is cute.
[SPEAKER_00]: I like it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I really do.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Another little bit of background trivia.
[SPEAKER_01]: So Ron Moore, he saw this as an episode which would allow him to correct an inaccurate impression of Klingon society, which he himself had created.
[SPEAKER_01]: On TNG, Moore had felt that he had unintentionally shoved Klingon women into the background,
[SPEAKER_01]: to the proper functioning society, and this dates back to the TNG season 4 episode redemption, where it is revealed that women cannot sit on the high council, the Klingon High Council, so in subsequent, in subsequent Klingon episodes, women had virtually no role, and the whole society ended up appearing to be completely male-dominated, almost like for rangy society.
[SPEAKER_01]: So this was something that more was keen to rectify in this episode and as such he determined that if men rule the council, then women rule the houses and that the mistress of a great house wields unchallenged power in terms of the functioning of that house thus restoring a degree of balance to cling on gender roles, which I love.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm all for gender equality and thank God
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my goodness.
[SPEAKER_01]: Who's that?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I loved working with her.
[SPEAKER_00]: She was fantastic.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was watching that scene.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was thinking.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now why did I punch her again?
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I- The knife.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so when the moment happened, I was like, oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: The original air data, this was November 10th, 1997.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a day after my birthday.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Robbie.
[SPEAKER_00]: happy belated birthday Robert.
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, this first scene we've got Cisco up in the prominent balconies looking down below to the lower level, but I do have to say.
[SPEAKER_02]: This was a very ambitious study camp.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, complex hybrid shot.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll describe it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is where I was like, is this one shot?
[SPEAKER_02]: All one shot.
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought it was amazing.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was amazing, you know, pulling through the promenade over this captain's log about returning to Deep Space Nine and everyone's happy and celebrating.
[SPEAKER_02]: And yes, they're still a war, but they've got the, you know,
[SPEAKER_02]: the DS9 near the wormhole, very strategic position.
[SPEAKER_00]: We've got the station back.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_02]: And everybody seems very happy.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's kind of like not that the war's over, but there's a celebration going on.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the camera starts in the promenade.
[SPEAKER_02]: tilts down so you see all of this background and you see mourn kissing a woman there, you see all kinds of celebration but it kind of pulls back and then goes with another woman and turns to a 180 the other direction then the steady can't must have stepped onto a crane the shot rises up.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it was definitely a hybrid shot, steady cam, and the operator will then step on to a platform on a crane where they'll lock in somehow, and then the crane lifts that operator up and it pushed into a close-up of Cisco.
[SPEAKER_02]: Very ambitious opening shot, David Livingston, good for you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, bravo David.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, what show am I watching?
[SPEAKER_00]: This is looking so exciting.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know, very cinematic.
[SPEAKER_02]: Big took a lot of time.
[SPEAKER_02]: I haven't no doubt to light to block the.
[SPEAKER_02]: the background to make it safe for the operator those can be very dangerous shots when you're stepping on the roof.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and they probably have to trust everyone around them because they're kind of blind to anything else but what they're looking at, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I didn't catch the mourn kiss.
[SPEAKER_01]: Who was he kissing?
[SPEAKER_01]: A background person.
[SPEAKER_01]: But it was a human was it an alien?
[SPEAKER_01]: Did you see
[SPEAKER_00]: You have to go back a mile.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to have to watch.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we do know from prior episode, the DAX finds more and very attractive with his.
[SPEAKER_01]: His little hair is coming out.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, five hairs.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just for it.
[SPEAKER_02]: We kind of do ops.
[SPEAKER_02]: Kira has worked in there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Cisco comes back in.
[SPEAKER_02]: They go through their morning routine.
[SPEAKER_02]: Morning routine, but they're both very happy to be back.
[SPEAKER_02]: Lots to do, but in the end, Kira says, and Martaox waiting for you.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he said, I think I'll start with that first, and she's like, yeah, I guess you would.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I again, when it's talking about the chemistry with Mar-Talk and Cisco, they seem to really have great chemistry as characters, as actors, I love watching the scenes with them together.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'd love to see them if they did a Shakespeare play together would be awesome.
[SPEAKER_00]: What would be so the two of them?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I agree.
[SPEAKER_02]: Cisco walks in his office, though.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mar talk has seems grumpy at the top, very upset about something.
[SPEAKER_02]: And we learn that Cisco's congratulating him because he's now the new Supreme Commander of the knife-fleet and Mar talk's like, yeah, you know what that means?
[SPEAKER_02]: Paperwork.
[SPEAKER_02]: More paperwork.
[SPEAKER_02]: He wants to be in battle.
[SPEAKER_00]: And Cisco doesn't let him out of it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like everything Mark talks throwing at him.
[SPEAKER_00]: Cisco's underplaying it and congratulating him.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but that's sort of very 20th century to say paper work.
[SPEAKER_01]: They should have said padded it at a work, you know, or something.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's true.
[SPEAKER_01]: Or I didn't think about it, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's no paper.
[SPEAKER_01]: Nobody's writing on paper.
[SPEAKER_01]: So everything is on a pad.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a lot of reports to make or yeah, something like that would have been good.
[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of reports to file.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: There you go.
[SPEAKER_02]: Good.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're not saying to you.
[SPEAKER_00]: We weren't in the writing, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: We would have helped them.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, Mark talked mentions that when they were in battle.
[SPEAKER_02]: All Warf talked about was the wedding, and also he mentions that Alexander Warf's son was there, and Cisco says, Oh, I've never met him, Mark talks as well as a fine boy, eager.
[SPEAKER_02]: as the heart of his father, but not the best soldier I've ever seen.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Cisco looks at him like, hmm, that's curious that he's not a great soldier.
[SPEAKER_02]: And off of that, we cut to quarks where Alexander is very enthusiastic.
[SPEAKER_02]: At first, honestly, I didn't even know if it was the same actor.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I agree with you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Me too.
[SPEAKER_01]: My feeling was someone else did his make up this day than the prior episode of the Resolve him.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's different.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, in the lighting's different.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I thought it was the makeup that was there for me.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I thought it was his performance was so because then in the previous episode, he had been very withdrawn and kind of angry.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, man.
[SPEAKER_02]: And now he's this enthusiastic.
[SPEAKER_02]: you know, energetic.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was just totally different.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, now he feels loved by his father, loved and accepted.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that would change your personality a lot.
[SPEAKER_00]: I liked his performance in this.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think the base makeup they used on him was darker.
[SPEAKER_01]: It almost like this, look like this.
[SPEAKER_01]: In this episode.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like this is the Alexander Regenko that went to Hawaii and got a tan for a week and a half and came back.
[SPEAKER_01]: I
[SPEAKER_00]: Also, you know, I think the thing that's most important, I mean, I think it might have been a different makeup artist that makes complete sense, especially with how many, and both of those episodes, how many extra characters we had in.
[SPEAKER_00]: Ailing and makeup, but also it's if you can't match it, maybe they forgot to take a Polaroid that happens from time to time.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you can't match it, make it better did it take you out of the scene.
[SPEAKER_02]: It did a little bit in the beginning because I literally thought it was a different actor.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, this is not the Alexander I remember.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Me too.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I didn't ruin it, but yeah, but I did think, wait a minute, there was something about his eyes too.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what's going on.
[SPEAKER_02]: Something was different.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, he's joking about, you know, his latest mistake disaster of war, the return and he reveals he's going to be transferred to the Yavang very soon.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then he goes to get some more food or something and then court pops in.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Reminds Warf, you know, offers still stands.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can have the wedding here in my place.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Dax realizes, well, if Alexander's leaving, maybe we should move this wedding up.
[SPEAKER_02]: At first, Warf seems resistant, but then he surprises Alexander in the end by asking him to be the sword bearer.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're the ring bear.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because we're still in war.
[SPEAKER_00]: And we don't know when we'd see him again, or if we'd see him again.
[SPEAKER_01]: I like that name of that ship, The Yavang.
[SPEAKER_01]: The Yavang?
[SPEAKER_01]: We're the Yavang.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna change my lesson.
[SPEAKER_01]: Garrett Yavang or Yavang.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so we go to the turbo lift where DAX and Kira are talking about the wedding and Kira's wondering why every detail is designed around warfswishes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Why not DAX?
[SPEAKER_02]: What about what DAX wants?
[SPEAKER_02]: Dax explains that, you know, Warf is dreaming to this traditional of cling on weddings and see but they're kid and
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, he's very sentimental about clinging on rituals, even though he's tough on the outside, so, you know, she's defending him a bit there.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, also, I've been married five times in the different lifetimes.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's true.
[SPEAKER_02]: You step off the turbo lift and as you step off and continue this conversation, Odo appears down the hallway and he freezes like a deer in the head.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Watched around and heads off.
[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't head off.
[SPEAKER_01]: He scurries away is what he does.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's so funny.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's very funny.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, what is that my imagination?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you're I get to say in this episode, the your tone and timing.
[SPEAKER_02]: I see why you're so good at comedy.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're very good at at the comedic
[SPEAKER_02]: kind of naturalistic.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just, yeah, it's very good.
[SPEAKER_02]: I totally, I was, I was feeling a lot of the Terry Ferrell comedy chops and that moment in particular.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was really good.
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you, it was so much fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: Kira said, as yes, that was weird.
[SPEAKER_02]: She acknowledge this, yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no, jumping down the side hall is weird, but we've been avoiding each other since the dominion left the station.
[SPEAKER_02]: And she basically says, I don't really want to talk about it right now.
[SPEAKER_01]: As a shapeshifter, he should have just turned into the carpet or into a bulkhead of something like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Instead of literally going to make it into the ceiling.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, just flown off as a bird.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: like a cartoon character with a little sound effect.
[SPEAKER_02]: We go to the briefing room next and Warf is gathered.
[SPEAKER_02]: Cisco, their Bashir's there, a Brian's there, Mar-Tox there, and Warf is announcing that he wants them to accompany him on the Kalhaya.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it is a four day, clinging on pre-wetting ritual,
[SPEAKER_02]: for the groom, it's time of spiritual reflection and male bonding.
[SPEAKER_02]: Basically, it's a cling-on-passular party.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's what it sounds like at this point.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's our assumption.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think it was really smart of war if not to let them know all of what was in tail.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the gangs vary into this, especially Bashir miles.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're really into this.
[SPEAKER_02]: They can't wait for the party.
[SPEAKER_00]: not really far from the truth for either one of them real in real life.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the Englishman and the Irishman, let's go to the pub, let's have a party.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Cisco asks, uh, Mar talk what Dax is going to be doing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mar talk says that she'll be spending the four days with his wife.
[SPEAKER_02]: She'll be taking a different kind of journey with my wife.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, how little we knew at this point, a different journey.
[SPEAKER_01]: That sounds pleasant.
[SPEAKER_01]: Different kind of hell.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, he didn't know was going to be hell.
[SPEAKER_01]: We were thought that's going to be a nice journey.
[SPEAKER_00]: Both of them seemed good.
[SPEAKER_00]: And until you meet sir, that's right.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, which happens next.
[SPEAKER_02]: We go to the airlock.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mark talk is waiting there with Cisco.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Mar-Talk is explaining that Dax has to earn the approval of Sarella before she can join the house.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mar-Talk through marriage and Sarella arrives immediately in Salt's Mar-Talk.
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought you were dead, basically.
[SPEAKER_02]: This book she says.
[SPEAKER_02]: You've gained weight, your hair's going gray.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: Very funny dynamic in their marriage.
[SPEAKER_00]: And JJ's just excellent in this episode.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep, I didn't think about it until now, but the name sorrella.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm wondering if the influence was Cruella Deville before the name sorrella.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I'm scared.
[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, La Corrella, yeah, maybe.
[SPEAKER_02]: After some insults and demanding to see Jezzy attacks, sorrella heads off.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Martaq's response as he gays is that her walking away is magnificent woman, so funny, so funny.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was, it was really funny.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: What?
[SPEAKER_02]: And also, I want to point out that David Livingston shot Sirella from a low hero angle, like super heroine.
[SPEAKER_02]: She was very imposing and intimidating.
[SPEAKER_02]: The camera was down low, making her look more powerful.
[SPEAKER_00]: Even taller, majestic.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then the angle, the raking angle
[SPEAKER_02]: Wow, it's just subtle directorial thing that he did that I thought was very cool, very smart little detail.
[SPEAKER_00]: I love that you've shared that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, a little bit of trivia, J. G. Hertzler and Shannon Cochran who played Serela based their performances in their scenes together on Benedict and Beatrice in Shakespeare's much ado about nothing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, wow, that's the name of our men's dogs.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's where I'm going to get his dogs.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think they always name their dogs after a Shakespeare career.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think they mentioned that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, be a Tristan Ben.
[SPEAKER_02]: We cut to Dax's quarter.
[SPEAKER_02]: Next, Dax is preparing for Sorrell as a rival.
[SPEAKER_02]: Worf is, you know, he's very nervous.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's nipping over details and, uh, and, uh, Dax kind of teases him about his obsession with playing on traditions.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, he's obsessed with this, the varhama candles.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, you know, this real varhama candles.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Dax is teasing him, like, yeah, sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: I traveled to Cronos.
[SPEAKER_02]: I captured three Tars in the hall of our mountains, made a ritual sacrifice, sure, or if I did all that, and he's a real, very funny.
[SPEAKER_02]: More comedy, like, I thought your performance, tonally, in this episode, more than any so far, I was like, oh, I see why she has done sitcoms.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you've got that sort of gear that you can go to.
[SPEAKER_00]: in drama, I think is easier comedy within drama.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I like dramaity.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, better than the one to the heart.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the hard comedy of sitcom jokes.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they're kind of, yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's a more difficult thing to master.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is more like real life, funny.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: As they kind of banter about the candles and traditions, Cerella arrives and immediately dismisses worth about these candles.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, she won't.
[SPEAKER_02]: she's not going to get on me about that and she just immediately kicks work out criticizes the candles and it's very clear she's gonna make the next four days very difficult.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah and she misunderstands what Dax is saying because you know, Dax is I like a challenge and so real is like I will not have my authority challenge by and so everything is rubbing the wrong way here.
[SPEAKER_00]: it's how she took a negative with so perplexing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: She's definitely a glass is half full person in this scene at least.
[SPEAKER_02]: We go to the return ready room next and warf is confronting Martaq about Serela's, you know, hostility and her.
[SPEAKER_02]: meanness to DAX and Mar-Talk is explaining to Worth that his wife distrusts outsiders joining and clinging on families.
[SPEAKER_02]: She just is not for that at all.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mar-Talk does agree that DAX is very worthy to join the family.
[SPEAKER_02]: He ultimately refuses to get involved or intervene with Serela's judgment.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that kind of goes to what you're talking about about Ron Moore trying to
[SPEAKER_00]: these women on house, they run it, they're show with an iron fist, but also I like so much in this scene where Mar talk shares that she doesn't particularly like me, but she also doesn't
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, there's a joke at the end where Martaq says, I had every right to bring you into the family Warf Martaq says, and there's nothing she can do about that.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Warf's kind of it's a backhanded compliment and more If you know, that's really comforting.
[SPEAKER_02]: Martaq's like, oh, that was funny.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, you know, who says you don't have a sense of humor And then she starts laughing and he's like, oh
[SPEAKER_02]: He laughs and the camera's pushing in.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was, it was very funny.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was a sweet moment.
[SPEAKER_02]: Very sweet.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I love how Doran delivered that line, too.
[SPEAKER_00]: How comforting.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was great.
[SPEAKER_02]: Next, we go into our classic Star Trek cave with some bonfires or candles or, I don't know, you know, fire is burning.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was a pit.
[SPEAKER_00]: There was like this big huge fire pit.
[SPEAKER_02]: Very ceremonial.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if they were for Hama and this felt like fires more than Yeah, I wonder how they did it had to be propane because you can't do open fires on the stage So yeah, and it needs to be controlled.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's my right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, our stage caught on fire Terry during a photo shoot
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, it was Yahoo magazine and it was Rick Burman on the cover of it.
[SPEAKER_01]: So they were doing his cover shoot.
[SPEAKER_01]: He was standing at my station at ops.
[SPEAKER_01]: The lights that the magazine had set up Actually were so hot they actually set the scream there was like a ploth covering over our bridge and that caught on fire.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the whole
[SPEAKER_01]: the whole bridge to catch a fire that must have been scary but there was only a couple people it was me and Ethan Phillips that were sitting down eating Friday dinner and he was facing towards the bridge and I was facing him and he goes um is the bridge supposed to be on fire and I was like what and I turned around and then that's when I saw Rick Burm and see the fire and he literally let out a scream like this he went oh
[SPEAKER_01]: Like that and ran off, I'd never seen, it was crazy.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then of course, people came in with fire extinguisher.
[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, you'd never seen him afraid or vulnerable.
[SPEAKER_00]: Never.
[SPEAKER_01]: Never seen him like that.
[SPEAKER_00]: No.
[SPEAKER_01]: It scared me.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, oh my god, you know, there goes our story.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, we could have been a disaster.
[SPEAKER_02]: But they got the fire department, our little paramount fire station.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Came over in their golf cart fire truck.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: The Bobby Billy Pete's broke the fire extinguisher from the set and just started doing it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: We love Billy P. We love I know.
[SPEAKER_00]: What a nice guy.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, so we're in the cave and they're beginning to call hiad.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're clinging on wedding ritual and worth presents ceremonial clubs to them with these cushions on the end.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's explained that they're used in a symbolic attack on the bridegroom at the end of the wedding ceremony.
[SPEAKER_02]: The group also learns that this is the first day of this four-day.
[SPEAKER_02]: ceremony and today we're fasting until the ceremony yes until the wedding and there's five more or deals today is just the fasting part we're going to keep fasting and then you've got to do blood you've got to do pain, sacrifice, anguish and death.
[SPEAKER_00]: How fast would you go, uh-uh, blank this?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: Blank this, I'm going to corks.
[SPEAKER_00]: Especially, Sadegal Fadil, are you kidding me?
[SPEAKER_00]: I know.
[SPEAKER_00]: The man's a read.
[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't have an ounce of body fat on him.
[SPEAKER_00]: He couldn't survive four days of not eating.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, their reaction when they're told this was very funny.
[UNKNOWN]: That's in it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's very funny.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, even our reaction is audience members is funny because we don't, we do not expect this would be the Bachelor Party.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
[SPEAKER_00]: But when you really think about clingsons, they're like warriors of like, yeah, it's a good day to die.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's part for the course, but we didn't imagine they're going to be soft on each other with this.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: When he says blood pain, sacrifice, anguish, and death, the shares responses sounds like marriage all right.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then a Brian is like, how would you know?
[SPEAKER_02]: It's very funny.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was cute.
[SPEAKER_00]: They have great banter throughout this whole thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: So good.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're very funny.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're always very funny, but this one was particularly like they were cast as the goofy side kicks that yeah, just yeah, we have more fun to come.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we go to quarks next the bars getting redecorated into a clean unthemed wedding.
[SPEAKER_02]: spot.
[SPEAKER_02]: And we see this flag, this giant flag going up the quarks overseeing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Jacob arrives.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's got the great news that the Federation News service is going to publish some of his stories about being under Dominion Occupation.
[SPEAKER_02]: and Quark is very impressed until Jake reveals that he's not actually being paid when Quark says, oh, great.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, since you're not getting paid, I wanted to have a drink.
[SPEAKER_02]: Drinks are on the house.
[SPEAKER_02]: Jake's like, really?
[SPEAKER_02]: He goes, no, just a figure of speech, which is what Jake had just said.
[SPEAKER_02]: So funny banter about that, about getting paid or not.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then Jake asks about his dad and Quirk reveals that that he's at a clean on bachelor party that's, you know, in progress.
[SPEAKER_02]: Jake's like, well, what are they doing?
[SPEAKER_02]: and he says, uh, leave it to your imagination.
[SPEAKER_02]: Since you're a writer, you just imagine what they're doing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Everybody thinks this is a great ceremony.
[SPEAKER_02]: Blood, pain, hunger.
[SPEAKER_02]: Next scene is in the, we go back to the cave.
[SPEAKER_02]: Alexander's passed out because it's so hot.
[SPEAKER_00]: the places we open with him passed out, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's laying on the ground.
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought he had like fainted.
[SPEAKER_01]: He hasn't eaten anything either.
[SPEAKER_01]: So he has no food and he's hot.
[SPEAKER_01]: So he passed out, yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Rebecca said as we were watching, she said, uh, mention that thank God Tom Peris didn't have to do this traditional thing on ceremony to Mary Balana.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I just want to point out, yes, thank you, Rebecca, for
[SPEAKER_01]: because you're, yes, because if that was the case, I would have been at your Kalha and I would have been, I would have been Sid or I would have been Alexander.
[SPEAKER_01]: I would have been Bashir, I would have been Alexander, just passed out, yes, yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're saying, I'm going to kill Tom Paris, like at the end of the period.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they're not hanging yet, but they will.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're passed out in the heat and it's the second day and everybody's exhausted.
[SPEAKER_02]: all of the boys that are not cling on to quit.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, you don't have to do this.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're not cling on, you're not as tough as us.
[SPEAKER_02]: But Cisco Bashir miles, they all refuse to quit.
[SPEAKER_00]: I knew that was gonna work.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's right.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, well, maybe you're not.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's like saying in context, you're not man enough to go through what we go through.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're stronger men than you, human.
[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_01]: Isn't that at the end where Mar-Talk and Warf bust out and cling on song they start yeah, which I've mentioned I hate.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I'm music.
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't stand it But you did notice if you listen to it carefully Mar-Talk or J. G. Hurtslur has a beautiful singing voice I think he does Wow Very high.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the two of them together were really good both of them.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they start kind of low and together, you know, hey, oh
[SPEAKER_00]: It's whole tremor.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he goes opera on us.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was beautiful.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Did you like that high note ahead?
[SPEAKER_00]: I loved it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_00]: That was a very good demonstration.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think next time I see you robbing a person, I want you to do that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to record it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that will be my ringtone for every time you call me.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's well.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll do it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks.
[SPEAKER_02]: We go to Dax's quarters.
[SPEAKER_02]: Next, Dax's is...
[SPEAKER_02]: is holding these buckets.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I have to say a couple of things.
[SPEAKER_02]: A, you've got guns in this.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, oh, no, you see Terry's guns.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, she was working out a lot back then, Robbie.
[SPEAKER_01]: She was super fit.
[SPEAKER_00]: I still have him.
[SPEAKER_01]: She was super fit.
[SPEAKER_01]: You do know how those guns?
[SPEAKER_00]: OK.
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't show you now because I'm wearing a blouse, but yeah, I used to have guns.
[SPEAKER_00]: Planting trees and bushes.
[SPEAKER_02]: That'll do it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's been really helpful recently.
[SPEAKER_02]: You had guns, though.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're holding these buckets up.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they're they're smoldering with like fire or smoke or something.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what the buckets we're doing.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they were as heavy as they were described, but they were still heavy.
[SPEAKER_00]: There was still weight to them.
[SPEAKER_00]: I wasn't, I was a metrically pretending that they were heavy, which is helpful as an actor.
[SPEAKER_00]: You need to see the effort.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's interesting because I don't think we've ever seen any type of ritual where someone has to hold up buckets like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: in the Klingon world, but in the world of kung fu movies, that's how every kung fu master trains their disciple.
[SPEAKER_01]: They have to hold heavy buckets of water and run up a mountain with it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they have to sweep the leg.
[SPEAKER_01]: They have to sweep.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they have to wax on, and they have to wax off.
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: She didn't have to do that in the time on.
[SPEAKER_02]: Did you?
[SPEAKER_02]: Did you wax on wax off?
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: But it was madening.
[SPEAKER_00]: Was I done it three times?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: She wouldn't have made a cling on.
[SPEAKER_00]: Want me to do it three times.
[SPEAKER_00]: And she says, well, a cling on will be wouldn't complain.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I do it again.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know.
[SPEAKER_00]: We end on me trying again.
[SPEAKER_02]: They know we're already having this eye contact like, whoa.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it's it's starting to go off the aisle.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: We do have a little time cut where it's a little later and the fake traditional candles are burning on the table at this point when
[SPEAKER_02]: It's casually revealed that Serela's cherished imperial bloodline is probably a century's old lie.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, you heard it here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Dax, being the smart, you know, science officer that she is has done some research and Serela's not as royal as she thinks she is.
[SPEAKER_00]: She's not royal.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, she's not.
[SPEAKER_02]: She's descended.
[SPEAKER_00]: Her grandmother is not her grandmother.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, her grandmother is a couple of kids.
[SPEAKER_00]: They were all killed and placed with other people, a different family that adopted all the same names of the original family to give the appearance to the
[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, Shinara, the great great great great great great mother was actually the Comkibind.
[SPEAKER_01]: Is that am I right about?
[SPEAKER_00]: Is it like when it hurt 25th?
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a long grandmother.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so good good good good good good good good good good good good.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm gonna keep saying great.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, okay, so, and then death is like, but we'll just keep the lie going if you want very sarcastic way.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so let's like, just tell the saga.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I definitely stuck a knife in her ribs.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, you did.
[SPEAKER_01]: You pissed Cruella off big time with her.
[SPEAKER_01]: She didn't like it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Truth tell her.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep, you got under her skin.
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll be cut back to the promenade and Jake learns that he's invited to Dax's pre-wetting party.
[SPEAKER_02]: He gets congratulated by Kira on becoming a published author in this scene.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then Jake and Kira walking down the promenade.
[SPEAKER_02]: Odo pops out again, awkward glances, their trademark awkward comedy beat, pretending like nothing's awkward, but it totally is.
[SPEAKER_02]: He disappears down another hallway.
[SPEAKER_02]: She turns, like, pretends not to even see him.
[SPEAKER_02]: She's like, do do do do do.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's very funny.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, man.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then when they turn, when she turns to avoid Odo,
[SPEAKER_02]: kind of marching back to the holodec, or I guess they're going to the holodec, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: For this.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they're going to the holodec holodec holodec.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, for the blood trial.
[SPEAKER_01]: What do you guys think of the wardrobe that the men have to wear?
[SPEAKER_01]: The ceremonial bachelor party.
[SPEAKER_02]: I liked it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I liked all the wardrobe in this episode.
[SPEAKER_01]: I did too.
[SPEAKER_01]: To me, it kind of looked like biker vests in a way.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know why that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's probably why you like that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And kind of a monk, like a monk in a bunker, a monk in a bunker, a monk in a bunker, a monk in a bunker, a monk in a bunker, a monk in a bunker, a monk in a bunker, a monk in a bunker, a monk in a bunker, a monk in a bunker, a monk in a bunker, a monk in a bunker, a monk in a bunker, a monk in a bunker, a monk in a bunker, a monk in a bunker, a monk in a bunker, a monk in a bunker, a monk in a bunker, a monk in a bunker, a monk in a bunker, a monk in a bunker, a monk in a bunker, a monk in a bunker, a monk in a bunker, a monk in a bunker, a monk in a bunker, a monk in a bunker, a monk in a bunker, a monk in a bunker, a monk in a bunker, a monk in a bunker, a monk in a bunker, a monk in a bunker, a monk in a bunker, a monk in a bunker or
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, really.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, that's right.
[SPEAKER_00]: He says it right in the first time they have the very first meeting in the cave.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: He said for the.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you got to carry him of the ceremony.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you have to carry it with you in the entire time going through this ritual.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, gosh.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's why you see Cisco in quarks with it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Isn't my question no?
[SPEAKER_02]: So they say, you've got a fast.
[SPEAKER_02]: You got to do all this painful stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: But they take breaks.
[SPEAKER_02]: They go back to their quarters to sleep or something in the four nights.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because they're because we see them in a problem.
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought was kind of weird on this day.
[SPEAKER_02]: I did too.
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought they were going to stay in the cave the entire time.
[SPEAKER_02]: I did too.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's why I think they cheated.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think they had cookies on their breaks.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think he's got these balls.
[SPEAKER_02]: I made a note.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, if they took breaks to leave, they had cookies.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, Brian and you, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: I think they didn't have a little glass of a little whiskey.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, a little, they had a rack to genome and a cookie.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, seriously, they're not clinging on.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they're not clean.
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: They'll never know.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's just have a little.
[SPEAKER_00]: They won't.
[SPEAKER_00]: The clan guy is not going to come down and slap you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Go inside the cave, though.
[SPEAKER_02]: It is blood trial now.
[SPEAKER_02]: And, but she's a volunteers, but he doesn't really volunteer.
[SPEAKER_02]: They asked for a volunteer and everybody steps back, which I thought was funny.
[SPEAKER_00]: And how great with Worf says, who will be first?
[SPEAKER_00]: I did not expect it to be you, Doctor.
[SPEAKER_02]: But sure is looking around like, no, neither did I.
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't worry.
[SPEAKER_02]: The pain will only last for a moment.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then they don't show it, which I wish they would have because it's one of those things that Yes, that was actually my missing scene.
[SPEAKER_01]: I wanted to see that I'd be actual the more stuff, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, suddenly it all kind of disappears.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Isn't it correct to say that next time we do see Bashir, that's when they're hanging, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: That's it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so we don't do pull-ups.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they do Overfire.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, and handcuff to the bar.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, next we have the Bachelor at party as I like to call it how much fun did that look like that look like fun super.
[SPEAKER_02]: It really I had been directing that scene.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure I would have been pulling my hair out because everybody was literally having too much fun and my favorite thing is
[SPEAKER_00]: She looked at David Livingston said, I want you and Aaron to make up a dance.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: And my brain went blank for a second.
[SPEAKER_00]: How are we going to do that?
[SPEAKER_00]: And of course, Aaron's like, oh, yeah, we get to make something up.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: But what do we do?
[SPEAKER_00]: And I said, oh, you know what, friend of mine is this Shirley cat thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you explain Shirley cat, please?
[SPEAKER_00]: It was just a silly thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she called it Shirley cat.
[SPEAKER_01]: She called it Shirley cat.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know why where it came for.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't remember why that started for their family, but we do this.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know why.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was just a silly thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's the greatest star track dance I've ever seen.
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_00]: So Aaron was like down with that.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think with him, he did more of a wiggle thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Or we put on our ears or something.
[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, we both incorporated our ideas together to make the dance we were doing.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was so funny.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that was David Livingston telling us to do that.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it was him.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: The dance performed by Aaron Eisenberg was completely improvised on set.
[SPEAKER_01]: David Livingston simply told Eisenberg to dance as goofy as you want.
[SPEAKER_01]: Terry Ferrell joining in was also completely improvised.
[SPEAKER_01]: We need to correct that trivia.
[SPEAKER_00]: I came up with Shirley Cat for sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: You heard it here first.
[SPEAKER_00]: You should hate it when you don't get credit for something that was your idea.
[SPEAKER_00]: The funny part about doing the hands.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that.
[SPEAKER_02]: that was from my friend Rebecca's sister's daughter that's what made it so funny was the hands in the freezing next time Terry Ferrell is at a convention she will lead you out on the dance floor in a surely cat celebration dance yes and I will join right in because it looks in you good we can do it in filly
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, let's do it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, God.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[SPEAKER_01]: All three be.
[SPEAKER_01]: Can I read a little trivia on this party scene?
[SPEAKER_01]: Please do.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, of the party scene in general David Livingston comments quote, the party scene I think everybody was afraid of because it was so daunting and I went into it saying,
[SPEAKER_01]: This is a great challenge.
[SPEAKER_01]: Traditionally, party sequences on Star Trek end up not being very interesting.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just people ending up standing around talking.
[SPEAKER_01]: But the writers infused it in the writing with a certain amount of energy by having a fire dancer.
[SPEAKER_01]: I said to myself, quote, I've got to bring that same kind of visual energy and excitement that they put on the page.
[SPEAKER_01]: Otherwise, it's going to be like a lot of the other Star Trek parties that aren't compelling and don't have any energy to them.
[SPEAKER_01]: My template was,
[SPEAKER_01]: the party, the feature film, the party starring Peter Sellers filmed from the 60s, which just had this frenetic kind of energy with people moving around all the time and having somebody that walks bringing you to another scene that takes place there.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's all continuous.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're not just cutting from one part of the room to the other.
[SPEAKER_01]: Something brings you to the other scene that's occurring.
[SPEAKER_01]: So.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he was fantastic.
[SPEAKER_00]: He was so relaxed and David Livingston has a way of being super grounded and really open.
[SPEAKER_00]: to what's possible.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think he did a really great job in that scene, and it looks like chaos, but it was organized chaos.
[SPEAKER_02]: I enjoyed it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I really thought the energy was great, the fire eater guy, even though we've never met.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, he was great.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mr.
[SPEAKER_02]: Lieutenant, and he could act too.
[SPEAKER_02]: He did fire eating.
[SPEAKER_00]: Nice guy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Seems like a really great guy.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was super fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Warren is there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Warren's having a party dancing with the Yeah, they Yes, he does, but to show this the fire.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, they were fighting.
[SPEAKER_00]: Show.
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll get to that.
[SPEAKER_01]: But to show, you know, someone of Hawaiian or or Pacific Islander origin on track was pretty amazing.
[SPEAKER_01]: You haven't seen that before.
[SPEAKER_01]: a little bit more trivia to ensure the right level of energy for the party scenes director David Levinson literally staged an actual party including live music.
[SPEAKER_01]: He did this because it meant the actors had to shout on set to be heard which added an air of realism to the scene as he explains with that drumming in the background they had to be more active.
[SPEAKER_01]: They had to deal with it.
[SPEAKER_01]: If I had had them stop playing the people would have toned down their performances
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he did a good job.
[SPEAKER_00]: Really good job.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we literally had fun that day doing it, too.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was a really fun day to work.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: It looked like it.
[SPEAKER_02]: The one thing about the scene that I thought was kind of moving and heartbreaking in a way is we realized that Quark
[SPEAKER_02]: is not having fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: Jake notices that this and talks to him about it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, he's got a crush on Dax and it was a little heartbreaking to me.
[SPEAKER_01]: When he didn't want to answer Jake's question, Jake's like, do you have a crush on her?
[SPEAKER_01]: It is interesting quirks description that one line.
[SPEAKER_01]: He says, um, it's a shame.
[SPEAKER_01]: She's about to waste them all on that walking
[SPEAKER_02]: walking frown had me on the floor laughing so great cork can't talk about his feelings he can talk about profit but not feelings no Jake says are you jealous and cork says there's no profit in jealousy yeah yeah and Jake says that's not a denial
[SPEAKER_00]: it's, and corks is not to be quoted either.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: But it makes sense.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, think of all the time that court played Tongo with Dex.
[SPEAKER_01]: Those guys spent many, many a late night just hanging out.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's natural when you hang out that much with somebody else.
[SPEAKER_01]: You can start developing feelings for them.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I get it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we're pals.
[SPEAKER_01]: Your buddies.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: We go into the all the sweet cave and but she reminded her of her hanging on a pole.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now we're to the pole scene.
[SPEAKER_02]: Garrett, you take it over.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Honestly, to me, this look like a medieval dungeon.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, they're acting off the walls like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but they had, do you see the big black cuffs they had on them?
[SPEAKER_00]: The manacles.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: They were cuffed to that bar.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you're holding on and there's a cuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Very fun.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a fun time.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, but a right off the bat, you know, but she hears like, she hears like miles, oh, Brian's like, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, I have a vision about the future.
[SPEAKER_01]: I can see it so clearly.
[SPEAKER_01]: How Brian's like, what is it?
[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, I'm going to kill Warf.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's only just, and it's just the amount of vision.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the vision.
[SPEAKER_02]: Perfect.
[SPEAKER_01]: But the thing is how, how quiet Bashir was in saying that.
[SPEAKER_01]: And how light it was.
[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't like, oh, I'm going to kill Warf.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was like, I'm going to kill Warf.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm resolved.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, God, it's good because of that and that alone.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then Bob Ryan repeats after kill Warf.
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're so into that.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was very funny.
[SPEAKER_01]: On filming the Kalhaya scenes, J. G. Hertzler commented, quote, that was another hoot.
[SPEAKER_01]: There was like a 5,000 degree fire going on.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was a hot day outside.
[SPEAKER_01]: We were standing next to this fire, pretending not to feel it because we're clinging ons.
[SPEAKER_01]: Those other guys complained, those wimps, column and Sid.
[SPEAKER_01]: hanging from their little fingers over the fire wimpy boys and that's what he said what JJ wimpy boys he goes those other guys complain those wimps column and said hanging from their little fingers over the fire wimpy boys
[SPEAKER_00]: without wearing all the makeup and the pair and the clingons have like twice as much clothes on.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_00]: That was a hot week.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was in the hundreds.
[SPEAKER_00]: I remember no, because we did a portrait of myself and Michael Dorn in our leather outfits.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And stage four, they had the, you know, the garage door thing open.
[SPEAKER_00]: They set up a photo shoot area and it was so it was in the hundreds and we're wearing this, but I'm like thinking, yeah, I'm old enough.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I'm never getting married.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm enjoying this.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: We were doing publicity and entertainment.
[SPEAKER_01]: They brought it to the store.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my gosh.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, and Michael Dorn was just so freaking angry because he was so freaking hot.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god.
[SPEAKER_00]: He was pissed and you know what.
[SPEAKER_00]: I am blaming him.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was so fucking hot.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I didn't have plastic on my face.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Sweating with that stuff stuck to your face.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: That'd be awful.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's bad enough.
[SPEAKER_00]: I had creep wool and a wig and he has a wig.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so it's like we're dressed for winter.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the clothes we were wearing.
[SPEAKER_00]: But the photos look phenomenal.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: But it was a hot week.
[SPEAKER_01]: All the publicity photos of you guys in the wedding cost more drug doesn't look like you're hot at all.
[SPEAKER_01]: You guys look fine.
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
[SPEAKER_01]: It looks beautiful.
[SPEAKER_01]: Bob Blackman probably felt pretty bad that he made it out of leather and it was a hundred degrees.
[SPEAKER_00]: He think he didn't care.
[SPEAKER_00]: Looked amazing.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, but for some reason that it's like my face doesn't sweat.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's the weirdest thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: How's that?
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, you know, when you don't get sick forever, you're holding it together.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then as soon as we go for Christmas break, everybody gets sick, but it's almost like somehow your immune, I mean, not always, but it feels like as an actor, there's something extra special that goes in and goes, boots traps her up, we're getting through this.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, gosh.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a different thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: We are back in Dax's quarters.
[SPEAKER_01]: Back at the party.
[SPEAKER_01]: Lita is dancing on a table top like a gogo dancer.
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, Kira Nagar doing the Shirley Cat that you came up with.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: The cutest thing though when Lita is dancing on the table, rom is pulling at her to try to get her off and she's heading him away.
[SPEAKER_00]: She's having a good
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_02]: They just got married.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the major, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, yes, but it's like the details that David Livingston made sure what was happening as you were saying in the trivia is you can see all of those activities.
[SPEAKER_00]: or David telling us what to do.
[SPEAKER_00]: He did an excellent job.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's so good that if you're watching, you want to be at that party.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're like, this sounds, this looks like a great party.
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to be there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_02]: Odo arrives.
[SPEAKER_02]: Try to shut it down.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's been complaints about all the noise.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they surely dance and crawl.
[SPEAKER_02]: He and Kira sort of have an awkward conversation.
[SPEAKER_02]: They admit, look, you know, there's some things we should talk about, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we're kind of overdo for this and they decide to go have a conversation and we'll see how that winds up but in the meantime, Surrella comes in crashes this party, she insults DAX
[SPEAKER_02]: demands that she leave immediately for the brain on, cling on ritual.
[SPEAKER_02]: Brandon, is it Brandon braggat?
[SPEAKER_02]: Are they breathing this after Brandon braggat?
[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, it's funny.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's time for the Brandon ritual.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, Sarella wants you to leave.
[SPEAKER_02]: Dax says no flipping way.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not leaving.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sarella pulls a knife out.
[SPEAKER_00]: Pull a freaking knife.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, what she pulls a knife after Dax says, Toroctal, which is a clingon sauce.
[SPEAKER_01]: Of course.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it's FU basically and clingon.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that she pulls the dagger.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a little bit trivia here.
[SPEAKER_01]: Pulls at the dagger.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then when you add when Sarella adds after you
[SPEAKER_01]: uh hit her.
[SPEAKER_01]: She then screams bok davor kosh kove which means you are an enemy of my house.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you are no longer even going to be in my house.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're an enemy of my house.
[SPEAKER_02]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's not good.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, there's a little fight.
[SPEAKER_02]: Little fight happens here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Probably a little tipsy too.
[SPEAKER_00]: I probably am.
[SPEAKER_00]: You were that character.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, you're at least tipsy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Beyond tipsy.
[SPEAKER_01]: So Rela is the one that knocks nog back.
[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't knock, try to break this up a little bit.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Ladies, please.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that.
[SPEAKER_01]: It says DAX pushes nog aside.
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought.
[SPEAKER_01]: So Rela pushed him aside.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think I push him aside to throw the puncher.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, that's after the.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it is.
[SPEAKER_00]: It does.
[SPEAKER_00]: I see it right here.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mm.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: It says, it's a mess.
[SPEAKER_00]: So Riley draws her dagger, but Dax, disarms her and hits her, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Lady, please, Dax pushes Nog aside, and Cerrellis's mock-tuck.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: I probably didn't want him to get hurt.
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe that's how it was.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're protecting him.
[SPEAKER_00]: Of course.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: You have a little fight.
[SPEAKER_02]: Cerrellis leaves really pissed off.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then Dax goes back to Shirley Cat dancing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I cover.
[SPEAKER_00]: You can tell that I'm upset.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you know, that why is everybody standing around?
[SPEAKER_01]: That this is my favorite down.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is my favorite part, Ter, for you.
[SPEAKER_01]: But because you are trying to get everyone to party again.
[SPEAKER_01]: And when you're saying why is everyone standing around, you're still pissed off.
[SPEAKER_01]: I can hear it in your voice just the way you so I thought it was really a really good acting point.
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, we cut to the next morning.
[SPEAKER_02]: The place is trashed, warped alive.
[SPEAKER_00]: I like it and let me be messy, disheveled.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like so rare in Star Trek to be disheveled.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, why?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, even though makeup and wardrobe didn't kind of go along with the dishevelness, you played hungover very well.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm going to say that.
[SPEAKER_01]: You were good at that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Altoa and Morn are there on the couch.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they could leave out the wrong door first and then.
[SPEAKER_01]: when they they head out together there's worth yes before you do that can we go back for a second because the whole reason why the whole interaction happened with Sarela is because she sees Dax sitting on the couch with the toa okay and those lines
[SPEAKER_01]: Those lines, listen to this.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, Towa says, Dax says, thanks for the show.
[SPEAKER_01]: Towa says, well, thanks for getting them me the day off.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Dax says, well, how about another two days off?
[SPEAKER_01]: And Towa says, too.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, what do I have to do?
[SPEAKER_01]: Dax says, not much, just give me something fun to look at for the rest of the evening.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you're very flirty with how you're, and the S.O.G.R.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then, Towa says, anything else?
[SPEAKER_01]: And Dax says, I'll let you know.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's when Cerulego's take your hands off of whatever.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you're right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So how did you two take that?
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to get your take on this.
[SPEAKER_01]: What did you think?
[SPEAKER_02]: How did I take it?
[SPEAKER_02]: She was having a wild bachelor at party and okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't think I was doing anything wrong.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was just being flirty.
[SPEAKER_01]: I wasn't flirty and yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was an empty flirting thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he's a friend.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because what are the friends at mine?
[SPEAKER_01]: What are the writers you're talked about that they kind of wrote it so that they were
[SPEAKER_01]: They felt like that Dex had had really shot the line in the past.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like you had.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is someone that had hooked up with in the past is what they're saying.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: She was wild.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's all I wanted to get out.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I'm sure that's how they're friends.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[SPEAKER_02]: So after Warf comes in, he sees that she's got this hangover, but he's got bad news.
[SPEAKER_02]: bad news.
[SPEAKER_02]: She said you attacked her.
[SPEAKER_00]: She pulled a knife.
[SPEAKER_02]: They had back to the bedroom back to Dax's bedroom.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if we've ever seen your quarters before quite this much like for a party in the bedroom and the closet.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is a real work.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, we haven't seen this much.
[SPEAKER_00]: No.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so she tries to go back to bed.
[SPEAKER_02]: Your bed does not look comfortable, by the way.
[SPEAKER_00]: None of them do.
[SPEAKER_02]: No.
[SPEAKER_02]: Look, like a prison mattress with a blanket that didn't even cover your bottle.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like an extra twin.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Only she'd like a coffin.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like a freaking coffin.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's the Kardashians shape of a bed.
[SPEAKER_00]: I have a sleeping bag like that and you want to turn around in that.
[SPEAKER_00]: It is hell.
[SPEAKER_02]: She tries to go back to bed and she hears some voices.
[SPEAKER_02]: She goes over opens the closet door.
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought it was the bathroom.
[SPEAKER_02]: But Kira and Odo are sitting there.
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought they were sitting on like a toilet in a bidet or something.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I thought it was stools, but you saw it as a bathroom.
[SPEAKER_01]: I saw it as a closet.
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was a closet too, but then now that we know the time, basically they have been in that closet for 12 and a half hours talking.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's a long conversation.
[SPEAKER_01]: 10 30 to 10 30 to 10 30 then 10 30 where you're there.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, he walked in and he said it was 10 30 30 so it's 12 on the nose, but it's all that's a long combo.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they needed it though.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they did.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it was so great because it was like, they'd gotten past their egos, their pride, the stress of having a conversation.
[SPEAKER_00]: And obviously they came to the other side.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was a good conversation because here at the end goes, thanks for a great party.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, she's in a great mood.
[SPEAKER_01]: She's in a great mood.
[SPEAKER_00]: She's like, I have to go to work.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but even when the door opens, you can tell that they're not a threat.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're demeanor.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the demeanor is relaxed.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're laughing.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're sort of, you know, they're back to their normal self again.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, they leave.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then Wurf tells Dax.
[SPEAKER_02]: She should beg forgiveness and Dax says I will not beg.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he mentions that this is a spiritual journey that we're on together.
[SPEAKER_02]: And she goes, I just want to marry.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want a spiritual journey.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just want to get married.
[SPEAKER_02]: And remember, she's hung over when she sings too.
[SPEAKER_02]: She does say, Cisco can just marry us.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's just go in his office tomorrow and, you know, later and we'll just have him do it and he calls it off.
[SPEAKER_02]: She was fine.
[SPEAKER_02]: Find with me.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_02]: But she's very sad at the end.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that was out, wearing quarks and he's taking down the banner.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the banner falls.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it was very dramatic.
[SPEAKER_00]: Very much.
[SPEAKER_00]: And loud.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Miles and Bashir are there.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're exhausted.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're starving.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're miserable.
[SPEAKER_02]: They see the banner fall.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then quark explains, yeah, well, the wedding's off.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they say, well, you know, there's only one thing to do.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right?
[SPEAKER_02]: He goes dinner.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep, I'll get the menu.
[SPEAKER_02]: After the wedding is canceled, Worf is convinced himself that he and Dax are just two different that just not meant to work out.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Mar-Talk counters him and says, you know, and Mar-Talk's got a very surprising speech here where he talks about Serela being difficult and stubborn and often makes him, you know, furious.
[SPEAKER_02]: But he loves her anyway, and he tells work that love isn't about finding the perfect person.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's about finding someone that you can share the victories.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can share your home and you can share your life with.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I feel like that was to me the kind of moral of the story there when it says, you know, victories hollow without someone to share it with.
[SPEAKER_02]: Honor has little comfort to a man alone in his home and in his heart.
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, good call.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mark Talk speech was great.
[SPEAKER_00]: it really was then we go back to quirks yeah we're going to dinner is served as food there's bread there's it looks good oh my god oh Brian even says oh I wish I ordered what you ordered yeah but yeah yeah yeah yeah
[SPEAKER_02]: all the food cork puts it all out there and before they can take a single bite Cisco interrupts and says nope don't eat anything the weddings back on the fast continues
[SPEAKER_02]: And then Corx says like even though even though you're not eating, you're still going to get charged for this food anyway.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Then there's a weird time cut.
[SPEAKER_02]: This was a little weird to me because we're in the same exact place.
[SPEAKER_02]: But Warf comes into Corx and says that he talked to Dax, but the wedding still canceled because she's not changing your mind.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Cisco heads off to talk some sense into decks.
[SPEAKER_00]: Boy, does he ever he's my Mark talk.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, cut inside where, um, decks are hot.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yes, but Cisco of all people is would know how to talk to decks for sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and that's what happens.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I like how this scene is structured where I don't give in easily.
[SPEAKER_01]: Correct.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is a really has to have a conversation with me and remind me that even though I carry Kerson's memories, I am not Kerson.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't have that high standing with the Klingons as Kerson did.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because you are you don't give in immediately.
[SPEAKER_01]: He starts off here and then he has to
[SPEAKER_01]: escalate and get bigger in order to pull you back into the wedding again, which is great.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly, which made it a really good scene.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: He says you're not hers on and if you're going to marry a cling on, then that means accepting cling on traditions, whether you like it or not.
[SPEAKER_02]: He talks about following your heart.
[SPEAKER_02]: And, and this sort of softens, dax a bit, you know, she goes over and sits by and puts, puts her, her head on his shoulder, I think, at one point.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I do.
[SPEAKER_02]: and says, you know, I never planned on this.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love the dialogue they gave you here, where you say, Dax, as I wasn't looking for love.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was happy all by myself.
[SPEAKER_02]: At friends, I had a career, adventure, and then one did this cling on with a bad attitude, walks into my life, and the next thing I know, I'm getting married.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was very sweet and very well performed.
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought you're, you're,
[SPEAKER_02]: playing of the scene and you and it, Avery did a great job, very sweet.
[SPEAKER_02]: And very well written.
[SPEAKER_02]: Very well written.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the episode was really, well, Ron, Ron's amazing.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Dax's last line when she says, I guess it's time for me to grow up too.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I because I mentioned that what happened to the young Hansen that had all that hair in Cisco says, I grew up and I say, I guess it's time I grew up to.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's good ending.
[SPEAKER_00]: But by then, I'm like, Misty, I'd, I'm.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you are.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, all that anger has turned into having to look at myself and say, nope, we're not going in that direction.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, don't you lay your head on the shoulder at this point?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I did notice that though there were times when I was talking that
[SPEAKER_00]: the way Avery was looking up and kind of there was not rolling his eyes, but I think he might have been staying true to.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's been fasting.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's been doing the clingon thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: So you can tell he's exhausted.
[SPEAKER_00]: He can't really.
[SPEAKER_00]: I just took the last amount of energy he had.
[SPEAKER_02]: God, right off of that very sweet moment, we go to quarks.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're now all the decorations are back
[SPEAKER_02]: drums are booming.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is a shot from up on the second level, which I thought was a great angle to sort of establish this wedding.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so Rela walks up onto a stage, lit by these fires, and
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a very dramatic cling on ceremony recounting these, the legendary tale of two hearts that the gods made for the one heart.
[SPEAKER_02]: Bravo, Ron.
[SPEAKER_02]: Beating alone, yes, talk about once the two hearts combined, it were so powerful that they literally destroyed the gods that created them.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's how powerful the cling on heart is.
[SPEAKER_02]: And
[SPEAKER_02]: We see Alexander bring the batlets, like the ring bear.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's a batlet bearer.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: So sweet.
[SPEAKER_00]: The sword bearer.
[SPEAKER_00]: So sweet.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he's so proud.
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought he was going to drop the batlet.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's something because he's so clumsy.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, he's going to do something like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: But he didn't.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, we see them kind of engaged the batlets a bit symbolically with each other.
[SPEAKER_02]: We see Sarella bless this union.
[SPEAKER_02]: in the end.
[SPEAKER_02]: She admits even she can't stand in the way of the power of these two hearts beating his one.
[SPEAKER_02]: Very sweet words.
[SPEAKER_02]: When you guys look beautiful, you're outfitted and read out.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my gosh, the red leather.
[SPEAKER_00]: So many people have replicated that for their weddings.
[SPEAKER_00]: Here's the crazy thing though.
[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't think about my shoes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was going to ask you about that.
[SPEAKER_00]: And right, they gave me men's boots that were too big for me.
[SPEAKER_00]: Why they didn't just let me wear my normal shoes.
[SPEAKER_00]: I do not know.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: But it really yanked my chain when I because I couldn't walk elegantly because these boots were slipping off my feet.
[SPEAKER_00]: and it looks like I'm lumbering down the aisle and it just really ticked me off because it didn't feel like the regalness I couldn't walk in the character.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you could have been wearing anything at that point.
[SPEAKER_01]: I could have been freaking barefoot.
[SPEAKER_01]: Two more pieces of trivia that we learned from this episode is that Jed Zee's father's name is Kila.
[SPEAKER_01]: We did not know that beforehand.
[SPEAKER_01]: We also
[SPEAKER_01]: the vaccine be in his.
[SPEAKER_01]: We know that there's several several people, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's 35636.
[SPEAKER_00]: How come, you know what I think is weird?
[SPEAKER_00]: Where was my family?
[SPEAKER_00]: I have a mother and a sister and a father and nobody came in.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hello, but wouldn't it have been good to mention, you know, my parents were going to come, but they can't because of the war or something.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was just
[SPEAKER_01]: sad, I think that Judzia had no family there, and not only you, Worf's human parents were not there.
[SPEAKER_01]: No one else, nobody was there, like the immediate family from both sides were not there, but then the war would make sense.
[SPEAKER_00]: And his adoptive parents, they were on earth.
[SPEAKER_00]: But still, that would have been a good little tidbit to talk about.
[SPEAKER_00]: If like Kira said something to someone else, sort of word to, to, to, to, to, to Captain says ago.
[SPEAKER_00]: Is that a shame?
[SPEAKER_02]: Dax is a great point because, yeah, because I didn't think of it, but as soon as you bring it up now, it feels like such an obvious mix.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Talking about the other people that should be at a wedding.
[SPEAKER_00]: My mother.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but we do have a little comedic interchange at the very end where Bashir keeps asking now Mark talks like, nod.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, now and when he finally gives him the okay, that's when they rush towards them with the the batons with the We're feeding of the of the couple.
[SPEAKER_02]: We hear the beating over the credits.
[SPEAKER_02]: You hear.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I love that.
[SPEAKER_02]: It can't say.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, That's great.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, black out for the blood curling screens and something.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, you can hear it over the credit.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's good.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's a very nice button with Sarella saying, welcome to the House of Mar talk.
[SPEAKER_02]: My daughter, which was like, Yeah, finally.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're married.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, theme lesson, moral of the episode, tear fair.
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't let your pride slash ego get in the way of your love for someone else.
[SPEAKER_02]: Good one.
[SPEAKER_02]: Great, I like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Robby, I'm going to quote my talk.
[SPEAKER_02]: Victory is hollow without someone to share it with.
[SPEAKER_01]: Great, and I'm going to call.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to second that one.
[SPEAKER_01]: Tearffer has the Patreon poll winner for theme slash lesson slash moral of this episode, and that is submitted by Kit Marie.
[SPEAKER_00]: Love requires compromise, not conquest.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_01]: There you go.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sort of the ego involved too as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, similar exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, ego adjacent.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Honorable mentioning for theme slash lessons slash moral as submitted by J furnace is love transcends all differences eventually.
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you everyone for tuning in, thank you to Terra Fair for co-hosting with us yet again.
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you, Terra.
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you, Gawa.
[SPEAKER_01]: And thank you, Robert.
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you, Robert.
[SPEAKER_00]: And thank you for showing up for us.
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love it.
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