[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, what are you doing?
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm telling you what you're doing.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're less than into the Elder Scrolls.
[SPEAKER_02]: Doorcasts!
[SPEAKER_02]: Either you are.
[SPEAKER_02]: Around be skipping rope with your entrails.
[SPEAKER_00]: Kata.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is the Elder Scrolls' Lordcast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Adventures welcome back to the Elder Scrolls lorecast.
[SPEAKER_00]: You've got me Tom and Lotus as usual and we are digging back into the iceberg We're on episode 10 of the iceberg and we've got plenty more to cover and some really weird ones today I think this is maybe my favorite group so far
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, these are a little screwed up.
[SPEAKER_01]: Also, just for the weather in New England, we need some iceberg right now because it is currently 102 degrees outside.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's insane.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's with an 82% humidity.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's ridiculous.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, are you, are you in Florida?
[SPEAKER_01]: Because we've decided to take your weather and bring it up north and ruin everything.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's weird.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, at least you have the swamps or the Florida man.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you've got that going for you.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what, I'll still take it back.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is better.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, alligator.
[SPEAKER_00]: But anyway, it's we're going to Tamriel, not Boston or Florida or anything like that.
[SPEAKER_00]: But hey, let's let's talk about entry number 52.
[SPEAKER_00]: on this iceberg list and if you're new to the iceberg list this is one that I pulled from it was the longest one I could possibly find that somebody put together on like red it.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so we've been going through and adding our own take on these and we got like the initial stuff that was already here by whoever the author was I don't remember anymore and then we've got our own own stuff just kind of dig into it a little bit more.
[SPEAKER_00]: So number 52 is
[SPEAKER_00]: goblin slave armies and lotus this one is another moral wind one yes so uh the original entry here says according to fedris hler hl er hl er hler yeah we went over this before the show assuming it's in the same vein as like hallowed type of heal which it makes sense
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because there's no numbers.
[SPEAKER_01]: They ever, yeah, I'm not sure they ever pronounce his name.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not everything was voice acted tomorrow.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I, I don't know if they ever say his.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I don't assume they don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: But here's the details.
[SPEAKER_00]: Traditionally, the Altmer have used the goblins to reinforce their armies.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is the only mention of them being used in armies.
[SPEAKER_00]: But ESO does support the idea of goblins as slaves with numerous examples.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: But what is actually going on here?
[SPEAKER_00]: This is from a quest in Morowind.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm going to read through, I've got a quick summary about what this is.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, Fedriss Holar tasks you the narrow green.
[SPEAKER_00]: We've investigating rumors of a massive aggressive goblin army brewing in the ancient subterranean ruins beneath the city of Mordhold, specifically
[SPEAKER_00]: under the god's reach residential district.
[SPEAKER_00]: The temple views this hidden army as an existential threat to the city and a direct move by the newly crowned King of Moroind, Hlawloo, Helsith, to build a personal disposable military force military force to seize absolute power.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we did disposable million.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's how they treat them, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, well, without a doubt, exactly.
[SPEAKER_00]: Without a doubt, it's true.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, oh, man, that is, that is, that is cut and dry.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: So the player you must venture deep into the treacherous maze like God's reach, sewers, and the underlying ruins, and remember what dungeons were like in Merowind.
[SPEAKER_00]: The tears of Ammon Shee and Terran Hall
[SPEAKER_00]: to break this army, the player is ordered to assassinate its leadership to Goblin Warchiefs.
[SPEAKER_00]: Logo, brew, and R-E-I-M-E-R-Y-M. Something like that is right off the tongue, right off the tongue.
[SPEAKER_00]: And to Altmer trainers, notice the connection here, Goblins, and Altmer together.
[SPEAKER_00]: Armyon and Yarmia, upon killing them, the threat collapses, and Fedriss Hler rewards the player with a 15,000 gold reward, which is pretty high.
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I was going to say from more one, that's a hefty hefty...
[SPEAKER_01]: bit of cash right but it makes sense you basically felled in army for them right by sure so it's it's worth a lot of money but if I remember this is this is some late game stuff you can't really functionally do this early game it's been a very long time but I believe this is requires a relatively high level to do
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: So here's where things get interesting.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you ask Fedrisshler about the situation, he explains that, and this is his quote, traditionally, the Altmer have used the goblins to reinforce their armies.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, in the lore, the Altmer of Somerset Isles have long viewed the goblins as being like lesser, expendable, like most beast races are referred to oftentimes.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, like they're not real people and so of course they use them for whatever they want because they don't respect them as people right, but also some of the armor don't respect any of the other is this has people so that That they're interested in each other at this point right right and and we're going to get in some other weird alt and rest of it a little bit later in the episode because there's there's some other severe stuff that
[SPEAKER_00]: really screwed up one letter for he screwed up.
[SPEAKER_00]: But clearly, they only value their own lives.
[SPEAKER_00]: They use these people slaves and that seems to be a thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it makes sense for King Halcith, Halcith, words are hard.
[SPEAKER_00]: He because he's a master politician and skimmer, he covertly imported these specifically savage goblins into the ruins beneath the city capital, knowing his political rivals would look down on such tactics.
[SPEAKER_00]: He did it in secrecy because
[SPEAKER_00]: He's not Altmer, but now he's utilizing the methods of the Altmer in order to basically amass an army, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: So this is clearly not like a donemer thing because there's no other stuff in the lore about donemer and their institutional knowledge with like teaming and weaponizing goblins.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so that's not a piece of it and really this just focuses back on the altmer being the ones who do this with a little bit of support like it said in ESO for the way that they treat goblins in the second era.
[SPEAKER_00]: But it's there really isn't anything else out there about this.
[SPEAKER_00]: We don't have other examples of Altmer using goblin armies or stories of type or septum attacking their homeland and then like sending goblins out to like, you know, fill right I mean the manpower goblin roops and armies and stuff like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: So to then have a scenario where you weaponize a group of them.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean it tracks like it doesn't seem on.
[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't seem weird necessarily, but it's just not necessarily a common practice either.
[SPEAKER_01]: But oftentimes, you know, when you when you deal with columns that's like there are in tribes and groups, like a lot of others.
[SPEAKER_01]: So like just having an organized group is fine.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[SPEAKER_01]: find like it's even if it's just a one-off like hey you convince this group of them aren't you not really convincing them if you're more or less enslaving them to do it but but yeah it is going to say okay well whatever we'll see how the fact of they are I wonder if it was more effective would have become more of a thing that they tried
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, or if this, like it's odd, the events of Morwen take place in the third era, you know, like this is not early history stuff and Federalist seems to have been aware that this was a common, all-mery thing to do, but we don't really have a whole lot of examples.
[SPEAKER_00]: We never have a hearing about it.
[SPEAKER_01]: There is also the chance that it's just like nobody really thought it was worth documenting.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, or it's just something referred to it as part of your army and it's like, well, sure, but it's like our army was made of whatever we had and maybe they didn't specifically know to like, oh, by the way, it was goblins that we used or
[SPEAKER_01]: weaklings or whatever the situation maybe was just like yeah yeah there was this army and they just didn't you never really got a scenario where somebody noted exactly who you were fighting right or like they they always put them on the front line and so they died really quickly yeah so it's just like the other more interesting parts of the battle happened it was like the regular soldiers right like one shot and you could probably get some goblins pretty airborne so
[SPEAKER_00]: That's probably true, yes, yeah, can you, oh man, I want to I want to see that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to see that like in a TV show I want to see like diverse septum walk forward and been like Blast a bunch of goblins off a mountain and be like all right, send their send their rest of your armies You know or whatever.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know even a Jackson he would have had but yeah, I mean You say they just throw like 10,000 goblins that been a medium during one of the sites Right and they're all like
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it looks like a cheesy Godzilla movie right.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then the new video just like steps on them.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like it's it walks.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that would be great.
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, that seems to be a thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: It seems to be something that we don't see too much of, but it also now now that we're shifting from thinking about the past.
[SPEAKER_00]: to the future, this comes up a lot.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, what are we going to see in Elder Scroll 6 in future games?
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll see a conflict with the Altmer and then utilizing goblin armies.
[SPEAKER_00]: And what's even crazier about this is that it wasn't, it didn't seem to be just like a one-off thing in the sense that the Altmer who were training these and working with them and Fedriss Hller, it's not like they just grabbed,
[SPEAKER_00]: a random regular goblin group.
[SPEAKER_00]: All of these goblins were bigger and stronger and very well-armed and seemingly trained.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it seemed like they kind of specifically targeted A.
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll say a plan or something like that, or a tribe of them, it's maybe specifically due to their physical prowess, where it's like that's just it.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's it's
[SPEAKER_01]: seemed a little more specific with the scenario, but you can also have that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, different armies like different.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's why so often like in in real world, it's like, oh, you're to Spartans and stuff like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, okay, well, Spartans are representative of all people at the time.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: But another point here is that the Spartans didn't just become Spartans.
[SPEAKER_00]: over night.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was hundreds of years of surgery.
[SPEAKER_00]: So maybe this was a group that didn't just like become these warlike goblins on their own.
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe they were designed and conditioned to be bigger by the old man.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that leads to sorts of your thoughts about genetic experiments.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was never going to do genics now.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, that's what this feels like.
[SPEAKER_00]: So there you go.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it would be weird, but also kind of cool.
[SPEAKER_00]: And also terrifying to see this come back.
[SPEAKER_00]: So horrifying.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's number 52.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's move on to the next one.
[SPEAKER_00]: This one is labeled Clothing Duality.
[SPEAKER_00]: Clothing as in like split.
[SPEAKER_00]: So here's the summary.
[SPEAKER_00]: Term used to refer to the dichotomy of opposing ideals fundamental to Lorkhan's nature, so now we're talking to gods again.
[SPEAKER_00]: Lorkhan of course comes back all the time.
[SPEAKER_00]: This term appears in the lunar lorkhan used in context of describing the moons, Massar and Sakunda, as being the sundered corpse of Lorkhan, which represents his duality, but it should be noted that the term itself does not refer to a specific theory of the moons.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, let us, we get a lot of this, like, splits and dualities and opposites and much in the lore.
[SPEAKER_00]: We get a lot of that in the real world as well, but in Elder Scrolls lore, there's things like it's a concept of me.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a constant theme and it transcends any individual race or culture.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like they all...
[SPEAKER_01]: have sort of aspects of this, whether it's their creation story or their god.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean literally Vivek is like as on the nose.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it can't physically be because right there two different colors like they're split down the middle to represent the two cultures.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like in Dunma, yeah, correct, correct.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's just like it's such a consistent theme throughout the Elder Scrolls.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and it goes back to like the earliest parts of the understood lore, this idea of a new impediment, you know, being opposite order and chaos, light and darkness, whatever, and those two things merging together and then theories about how that becomes acotosh slash lorkon, and there's a lot of support for acotosh and lorkon, are the same thing, they're just two aspects.
[SPEAKER_00]: of that same God.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so the idea that like Akatash tears out the heart of Lorkon is in some ways Akatash doing that to himself.
[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that stuff gets really crazy, but then Lorkon's body being split and broken is a whole other thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, this is explained in interesting ways in the lore and other places where they'll talk about how the adria are planets are actual physical planets that are up in the sky, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: That one we, it's been a while since we've done that episode, but there is an episode we did on that if I remember correctly.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, and if that's the game, because a necromancer is moon and stuff, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: And if that's the case, then Massara and Sikunda being a two pieces of moon that may have once been a planet combined already together seems to be in line with that theory about the other age or actually being physical places and planets or having manifested as that at some point.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, so there is something here, this is a theme that you see a lot, then it comes back over and over and over again.
[SPEAKER_01]: And this one I can also say though, this seems like
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the way we've been referring to some of the iceberg chunks, I guess you'll call it a lot.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's one of the ice chunks.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the ice cubes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Some of them are just like, it's in the game, like I don't, this is one of the ones where it's kind of interesting because yes, it is in the game, but it's also a little more subtle because it's, it's there if you look for it, but if you just bring this up, it's not the same as like I did this quest in Skyrim.
[SPEAKER_01]: This one's kind of like, well, no, these are themes that are explored throughout the series.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like, okay, yeah, I can see this one being icebergy a bit.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you have to notice the theme and then you start to notice it everywhere.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's how right.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's actually work, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: You're kind of... Yeah, for sure.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're kind of, you're not, you're only subconsciously aware of them, but then somebody points out and goes, did you notice?
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a pattern.
[SPEAKER_01]: This, this, this, this, and you go, oh, oh.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there is.
[SPEAKER_00]: How about that?
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, right, right, right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's more what this is about and you see this pattern all over the place.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: So got further into the Mass Arsacoon to stuff with the elsewhere DLC and their connectivity to G to and their belief about Lorcan and all of that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, or Caj.
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, so that's all fun.
[SPEAKER_00]: So if you want to dig deeper into that, if I'm sure we did episodes that discuss some of this stuff, but you can also just play that expansion.
[SPEAKER_00]: You'll get a little bit more you actually get the greatest wishes, which is crazy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, you literally get to, uh, is it just wanted to, uh, I, I believe it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Joe, do you go to?
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a good idea.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's a Kunda.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that expansion was just Lord 2019, I think.
[SPEAKER_00]: She's my, where is the time go?
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, going back in time, it's a expansion.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's, uh, let's move on to number 54.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, this is another all-ver-one, and this one, speaking of Spartans, feels very Spartan.
[SPEAKER_00]: Sure does.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll just have to say it and I hope this doesn't get demonetized in some form or another.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: It says.
[SPEAKER_00]: Brace for demonetization.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is a quote.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is not me saying it.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is a quote.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm going to say it in a funny way.
[SPEAKER_00]: Altmer.
[SPEAKER_00]: Babby.
[SPEAKER_00]: Killy.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hmm.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm.
[SPEAKER_01]: I appreciate you trying to get to around the robot algorithm.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just slap us with a whole bunch of horrible stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, okay, so here's what the entry says.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is before we did any of our stuff on it.
[SPEAKER_00]: It says, in Imperial Scholar reported on his visits to the Somerset Isles by saying that the majority of Altmer Babies are keyled.
[SPEAKER_00]: for eugenics purposes, whether this is true or simply propaganda, is unknown.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, who is the scholar?
[SPEAKER_00]: Where does this come from?
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, what is actually going on here?
[SPEAKER_00]: This is in the pocket guide, the Empire's first edition of the pocket guide to the Empire, and this is in the section about the Al-Marie Dominion.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: And we have to understand.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is something that was put together by the Empire we've talked about this before,
[SPEAKER_00]: written by Imperials, four Imperials, especially there is a 100% design to be propaganda.
[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, and this reference goes back to the first era, 28, 20, and specifically a journal by Eric of Goese.
[SPEAKER_00]: So this was Emperor Remin's emissary to the Alzheimer's way back in the day.
[SPEAKER_00]: And here's the one passage where this comes up.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let me know what you think about this, Lotus.
[SPEAKER_00]: It says the relevant quote here.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's my notes.
[SPEAKER_00]: The relevant quote.
[SPEAKER_00]: Here's the quote.
[SPEAKER_00]: Of particular scarcity is information about either the high elves or the Somerset Isles.
[SPEAKER_00]: During the second empire, ambassadors were allowed only in the capital of Alonore, and thus only the description of the Almeri homelands is confined to that city alone.
[SPEAKER_00]: And elsewhere,
[SPEAKER_00]: see places of note alinore, so this is a little reference inside the guide itself.
[SPEAKER_00]: Furthermore, we can offer only this brief but reliable account of the high-elven people.
[SPEAKER_01]: It comes from the deret reliable.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's reliable, and then it's specifically tells us.
[SPEAKER_00]: It comes from the journals of Eric of Gui, Gwiss, maybe.
[SPEAKER_00]: Reminds that message to the people.
[SPEAKER_00]: Who lived with them in the first era of 2820?
[SPEAKER_00]: Here is his quote.
[SPEAKER_00]: high elves consider themselves to be the only perfect race.
[SPEAKER_00]: Straight off the bat is tracks.
[SPEAKER_00]: So far, all right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Over hundreds of generations, they have bred themselves into a racially pure line and are now almost identical to one another in appearance.
[SPEAKER_00]: Tell them to look identical.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's no difference between them.
[SPEAKER_00]: How racist does this sound?
[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, let's keep going.
[SPEAKER_00]: The theory that the high elves do not reproduce as quickly or as often as humans is false.
[SPEAKER_00]: Rather, to my horror, they kill 9 out of 10 babies born to them in their obsession for purity.
[SPEAKER_00]: further quote, the ultimate despise other elves as unsophisticated trolls and barely consider the non-almery races at all.
[SPEAKER_00]: They pay their imperial tides.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure not for fear of war with the humans, but rather to keep an invasion from infecting their islands.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so what do you think about this, lotus?
[SPEAKER_01]: This is pretty funny because there's several parts of this that are
[SPEAKER_01]: like we just discussed.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is clearly propaganda, like the thing that's funny, like not ha ha funny, but like interesting is the fact that some of this actually does track with your interactions.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it isn't necessarily straight false.
[SPEAKER_01]: all her say, but it even reads as like a fear tactic of like, oh my god, look at these people look what they would do type of thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're clearly just like it's it's the exact same idea as what they're there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Trying to freak people out about this.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, you know, you don't want to view them as anybody that you can relate to because they're so horrible and we're going to tell you how horrible they are, because of all these things so that you would be horrible to them if the situation arises.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, the the nature of the dehumate humanizing your enemy.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're ready.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, and saying like.
[SPEAKER_00]: look how racist they are.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's completely ignoring the fact that you are being racist.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, it's right.
[SPEAKER_01]: But it is funny because just with some of the interactions you do have in game and crant the old Mary Dominion has different.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how you'd refer to it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Faces of the Elmeri Dominion because it depends on what error it takes place in, yes, and now there's there's definitely some underpinnings of issues throughout them, obviously, but I would argue that
[SPEAKER_01]: You never know what what maybe he did see at the time and expanded out to like all that all like this or something like that we can see notions and then interpreted what they saw in the word possible correct but it's interesting and that when pretty screwed up it's also the only time we ever hear about any of that stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it feels very, very, again, there are real world influences here, like it feels very like the Spartans we've talked about the Spartans, and they, they absolutely would get rid of the week.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep, they would absolutely practice eugenics on their own people.
[SPEAKER_00]: There wasn't a word back then for that, but that's what they did.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's just happened in other places as well.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, uh, this is,
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, it feels possible, but again, we don't get any other references to specifically the part about killing nine out of ten.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I thought.
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: And again, I think this is mostly propaganda is how it comes across.
[SPEAKER_01]: But it, and again, with the minimal amount of sources for this type of thing, it definitely comes across as one of the many, many in law, one off like, hey, we got to try to
[SPEAKER_01]: have our cause here gain garner some traction so we're gonna do this and it's just like okay well yes that's fine but that doesn't necessarily mean that it's actually the case so yeah if ever here's a fun here's a fun thing to do this is one of those patterns you notice about the way people work over time is the less somebody's in a specific group
[SPEAKER_00]: the worse their takes are about about that group.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Or that thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Here's the way to do it.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you meet somebody who ever has like a really bad take on like some, oh, you shouldn't go there because those people are like that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Ask them about something that it doesn't have to do with people or culture or racism or anything like that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Ask them about something that they think they have skill in, but they don't.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, you have more skill in that.
[SPEAKER_00]: And chances are they will give you a really like,
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you know how to fix a car, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I could fix a car.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I've been having this problem with this thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Chances are their assumptions are also wrong about the way cars work.
[SPEAKER_00]: Or more.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is just the way we are as human beings is that when you are not within a circle of knowledge, you generally have bad takes about that circle.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so...
[SPEAKER_00]: there you go context what's actually the situation so it's just like oh here's my you know aerial view of what's going on and I'm going to try to sound educated right which right so just speak to what you know right so if you if you aren't part of a people group then we should all just walk around with a assumption that our assumptions are flawed like it's we're not inside that group so we don't know um so yeah this is but this happens of course in the rural world and of course you get this which absolutely feels like propaganda
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's up of it if there is little information from coming from other sources then the source can say anything they want because there's nothing to contradict their point right if there's one source it's kind of hard to verify much of the information exactly so there you go so were they killing their babies we don't really know it's possible but it also made of totally gotten blown out of proportion or just completely made up
[SPEAKER_01]: or again, one of these situations where one group does not necessarily apply to all groups, because I would like to think of myself as not a Spartan.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that would be like somebody for like, we're both Americans.
[SPEAKER_00]: Somebody coming and seeing something a terrible Florida man does.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then assuming all Americans do that thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, wow, Lotus and Tom literally eat people's faces.
[SPEAKER_01]: In the people's faces.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: What else did, what I don't can't think of any other, there was a lady did something terrible.
[SPEAKER_00]: Some guy, I won't go into it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, there's something over the stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was gonna say somebody was baptized down there with iced tea, I believe.
[SPEAKER_01]: I hadn't heard about that one, but yeah, that was why it came up recently.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm pretty sure that was one of the funny or ones that were on meth.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, in case anybody doesn't know the reason why there's so much weird news about people in Florida isn't because people in Florida are that much different than
[SPEAKER_00]: people who do weird things in other places, it's because there's a law that says that those things, the things that go through the legal system can be reported on before there's any form of conviction or anything.
[SPEAKER_00]: So all of that's like you get arrested for doing something weird, that becomes public knowledge right away.
[SPEAKER_00]: Where is it?
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Other states not so much.
[SPEAKER_00]: So yes, there you go.
[SPEAKER_00]: But here, let's move on.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is number 55.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is another good one.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's weird.
[SPEAKER_00]: Cajit fur trade this one is very weird.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so here we go.
[SPEAKER_00]: Confessions of a Cajit fur trader details the life of a merchant that butchered Cajit and Argonians and sold their hides.
[SPEAKER_00]: The term itself is a double entandra.
[SPEAKER_00]: As an merchant is a Cajit.
[SPEAKER_00]: for a trader because they are a Cajit and they trade furs, or you can also read that as Cajit fur trader, somebody who trades Cajit fur.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, trader.
[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, and traitor, too.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: So not just Cajit as in the first and trace furs, but it also is Cajit's furs that are traded, but also that person would then be a traitor, traitor.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a double double
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how many.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm running out of numbers.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of untunders.
[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of untunders.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so this one comes from a book and the book itself is called Confessions of a Cajid for Trader with a D. Yes, Trader D. Yes, I'm trading.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
[SPEAKER_00]: This one's not that long.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think we, no, it's actually pretty short.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's pretty short.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think we should read it because it'll be fun.
[SPEAKER_00]: So here's, this is interesting.
[SPEAKER_00]: My execution is tomorrow.
[SPEAKER_00]: The turnkey asks what I'd like for my last meal.
[SPEAKER_00]: Bring me paper, I say, a quill and a candle.
[SPEAKER_00]: Perhaps the arrow would like a confession.
[SPEAKER_00]: I would rather pass the time.
[SPEAKER_00]: When my father's harem burned down in our family fortune was lost to the ashes, my brother and I set to begging in the gutters of elsewhere.
[SPEAKER_00]: I will never forget the first time we stole a traveler's purse.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was almost by accident, just a slip of the claw and the pouch fell into our hands.
[SPEAKER_00]: We ate like kings that night.
[SPEAKER_00]: We slept in a warm bed for the first time in months.
[SPEAKER_00]: This totally plays into stereotypes about Cajit and other places in the empire.
[SPEAKER_00]: Soon after my brother and I took up the knife, the gang we joined treated us as the dirty orphans we were.
[SPEAKER_00]: We robbed, we scammed, we cut, and ran, and years of debotry, and hard-living took their toll.
[SPEAKER_00]: I lost half my ear in a knife fight with a blind drunk Argonian.
[SPEAKER_00]: That sounds like a great story.
[SPEAKER_00]: I wanted to give up, but my brother another day, yeah, he dreamed bigger, better.
[SPEAKER_00]: My brother wanted to make it to Seridel and become legit merchants.
[SPEAKER_00]: We had a plan.
[SPEAKER_00]: One final heist of a northbound caravan said to be filled with jewels.
[SPEAKER_00]: Something went wrong.
[SPEAKER_00]: My brother could not stop the horses on time and I stood helplessly by and watched the wagon plummet over a cliff.
[SPEAKER_00]: But as I picked through the wreckage, my devastation turned to excitement, there were no jewels, but there were plenty of luxurious wolfpels, horker tusks, and mammoth heights, more than enough to buy my way to serodill.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'd follow in the footsteps of so many of my kind, traveling merchant, someone with a respectable profession.
[SPEAKER_00]: I had all the furs bundled in my pack when I saw my brother's broken body.
[SPEAKER_00]: His ears were still warm and I shut my eyes for the last time, or shut his eyes for the last time.
[SPEAKER_00]: This was his dream, but he would want me to go.
[SPEAKER_00]: And what I wanted, well, the care of and guards were coming.
[SPEAKER_00]: I had to go, but I couldn't just leave his body to rot.
[SPEAKER_00]: My brother gave me my first skin.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, this is where this goes.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was to be a momento, but in the darkest of the fence's cabin, the coin hit my hand heavy.
[SPEAKER_00]: Then she looked at my brother's pelt and offered three times the amount of any other fur.
[SPEAKER_00]: Disgust caught in my throat.
[SPEAKER_00]: Not when you skinned your brother, but when you were asleep.
[SPEAKER_01]: Look, it was just scary, but it was fine.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was probably, we probably liked it.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is what all the Kajitu, anyway.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's totally fine.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is not what the other Kajitu, I've never heard of this anywhere else.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, discussed cotton might throw, but did not live very long.
[SPEAKER_00]: I realized the cost of such a forbidden luxury, the value, the demand, the respect.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is what I wanted.
[SPEAKER_00]: It became easier.
[SPEAKER_00]: A dark alley, a gag in one hand, and a quick slice across the throat.
[SPEAKER_00]: Gently hold to the body as it bleeds.
[SPEAKER_00]: I became faster.
[SPEAKER_00]: My cut's precise and fluid.
[SPEAKER_00]: I peeled the skin with one motion and kept the merchandise pristine in one piece.
[SPEAKER_00]: I became rich.
[SPEAKER_00]: Far richer than anyone in my family had ever been.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I was careful.
[SPEAKER_00]: My stronghold was well hidden and practically impenetrable.
[SPEAKER_00]: I hired the men that used to employ me.
[SPEAKER_00]: We moved frequently on less traveled roads when we hunted when we hunted in the wild.
[SPEAKER_00]: We stalked the back alleys.
[SPEAKER_00]: We used to sleep and when we hunted in the city.
[SPEAKER_00]: I grew so rich that I no longer needed to dirty my own hands, hunting other
[SPEAKER_00]: Patchwork colored furrs fetched the best price among the Bosmer.
[SPEAKER_00]: Argonians preferred the pelts a completely skinned and tanned, orcs prized the thick waterproof leather of the Argonians.
[SPEAKER_00]: Humans most often bought tails and ears.
[SPEAKER_00]: I had to employ an alchemist and a master craftsman for a couple of requests, but I didn't ask questions when the gold pile up.
[SPEAKER_00]: And now I'm a prisoner, maybe I became careless, maybe it's maybe I let too many secrets slip between the sheets, oh boy, the rate of my fortress was a massacre, they took me alive barely, that was the mistake, my enemy should have killed me when they had the chance.
[SPEAKER_00]: I have one lockpick, and the northern wall of myself is weak from disrepair.
[SPEAKER_00]: My head shall not roll tomorrow.
[SPEAKER_00]: I am not finished with the trade.
[SPEAKER_00]: There will always be buyers.
[SPEAKER_00]: Some day, I will sell my own skin for a king's ransom, as my name is a legend.
[SPEAKER_00]: And yours shall rot in the gutters with your bones, the fur trader.
[SPEAKER_00]: So good, this is a real good one.
[SPEAKER_01]: I, yeah, that one is super dark, super messed up, and it's also funny, because it's like, it goes from a really just like, okay, I have no morals to better myself to by the end.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's the thrill of the situation that is clearly keeping him going has nothing to do with making money anymore.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it becomes like a slime just.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, it's just like, no, I am just a legend that does this.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, yeah, you're getting a lot of enjoyment out of your job.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's all like narcissistic ego and like this is who I am.
[SPEAKER_00]: You'll never catch me like, yeah, purposely being a little bit sloppy to see if somebody picks up on it and that's sort of thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's, oh, it's dark.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, this book comes from ESO and Don Guard.
[SPEAKER_00]: I believe it first showed up in Don Guard and then came out and was also used in ESO.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it doesn't go back that long, but it's a mainline game story and I love these like,
[SPEAKER_00]: The little twists like these stories can be so good when they're like, oh, here's a fun little story and it's like, I'm going to get to real dark and yeah, that's always fun.
[SPEAKER_00]: So there's not much debate here.
[SPEAKER_00]: This one is pretty obvious that the fur trader is clearly what they're saying they're doing like this.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, there's no ambiguity here, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Like this is exactly who they are and what's happening.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this is literally just, this is one of the ones that I'm like, this isn't really a nice part of thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is just one of the stories in game.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, but it raises questions.
[SPEAKER_00]: Who is the refrigerator?
[SPEAKER_00]: Are they sure?
[SPEAKER_00]: Are they still alive?
[SPEAKER_00]: Are they a character that you can walk past in Skyrim and not realize you're walking.
[SPEAKER_00]: You just think they're a Cajit, who's a traders in one of the Chinese.
[SPEAKER_00]: Is it Mike?
[SPEAKER_00]: We don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so someone's a lot of fun for those reasons.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, if you have theories about who the fur traders.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I have not heard any, but I would love for somebody to be like, okay, if you go to this town, you can find it totally.
[SPEAKER_00]: This could cheat and you can find hints here that seem to imply that they're not just only trading regular goods.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so if you know something like that, let us know because that might show up in Skyrim somewhere.
[SPEAKER_00]: you ready for this one notice let's do it the graveyards hide their dragon master parthenx or party snacks on the summit of the throat of the world okay now this is one of those ones that you go wait a minute they're not they hiding the dragon like what do you remember about the relationship between the graveyards and parthenx you feel like they were like
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, it seemed more of a reverence thing, or it's just like, we know that Parthenics has like immense power, but I would almost say that the big thing with them that kind of has some type of, I don't know, connection or the fact that
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe not fighting him, so much as just like, oh, well, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess, because if anybody really thought dragons were around, a part of the night, such a chill, chill one up there, right.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's true.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's true.
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, to a degree, but just the reaction if you kill part of the next.
[SPEAKER_01]: at the decision-making junction, I guess, spoilers for an option you can take in Skyrim.
[SPEAKER_01]: But like that is something you can physically do in Skyrim, just like most of the other shows games you've got to run a mock-and-do-e-one.
[SPEAKER_01]: You can actually kill part of the net, and they
[SPEAKER_00]: paste.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so there's a there's a connection there like it's not like right like there is something going on Okay, so the reference that I could find that seems to support this is by Kamala Calcivious kill serious the Corribus yeah, yeah, Laura Matt is Calcivious actually
[SPEAKER_00]: Loremasters archive dragons in the second era, and it reads like an interview.
[SPEAKER_00]: This was a ESO Loremasters archive thing that was released after Skyrim.
[SPEAKER_00]: So take that for what you will.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is not a Skyrim document, but it does make a reference here.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's in the final question in this archive.
[SPEAKER_00]: It says the question is, are there such a things as modern era dragons that aren't wholly interested in death, domination and well-fire?
[SPEAKER_00]: This is like an interview question, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: And now remember, this comes out in ESO, which means this was well before the events of Skyrim by hundreds of years.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: The response is, well, no to be perfectly frank, dragons do occasionally find common cause with mortals.
[SPEAKER_00]: The red giant, not fall are, not fall are.
[SPEAKER_00]: We've talked about all the weird dragon names for, for instance, I've even heard rumors of a dragon monk who dwells among the Nord aesthetics and throat of the world.
[SPEAKER_00]: But even these exceptional dragons cannot escape their intrinsic nature, at least I don't think they can.
[SPEAKER_00]: So the dragon monk is Parthenax, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, what would it be?
[SPEAKER_00]: And the Nord aesthetics even toward the end of the second era were the Greybeards.
[SPEAKER_00]: So we know that Parthenax kind of just hung out and like meditated and did other things over the years because he didn't engage with the stuff the other dragons were doing.
[SPEAKER_01]: One of the big thing was overcoming his nature of being like a brutal general in the dragon army.
[SPEAKER_00]: his goal was to change what he was type of thing yeah so maybe this is implying things that Skyrim doesn't tell us about where he was prior to the events of Skyrim in in previous ages of the world and maybe he spent some time
[SPEAKER_00]: on the throw of the world because it was a place few people would ever visit and wouldn't be able to just say I'll just be out of the way and on bothered right but it also kind of makes sense if he was trying to change his ways he was trying to be more helpful towards mankind or whatever then maybe there's an argument to be made that a lot of the knowledge that the Great Beards had came directly from party party's next part of the fact that while he's fighting out on the mountain
[SPEAKER_01]: That tracks, especially because it's like I do I think there was a reverence there and as a result it was like shared knowledge type of deal and you know they probably tried to make it so that could just stay up there and do his own thing and you know,
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he doesn't need to fly around.
[SPEAKER_00]: And if they, I don't know, if they're feeding him or something, they could be catching like deer and tossing him something to eat or whatever.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that could work out.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's, it's interesting to me that this only comes up in ESO.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like the question becomes, was this part of the backstory that was always there and there just was very little
[SPEAKER_00]: Or was this more of a, like, oh, they filled in as many gaps as they were willing to do when they made Skyrim, but we've noticed over the years that there's kind of this whole in the story in part the next story.
[SPEAKER_00]: So if we go back to the second era, maybe that's what he was doing.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then so like that becomes new lore that's added in to kind of fill in those gaps that wasn't originally part of the story for Skyrim.
[SPEAKER_00]: But that doesn't mean it's bad.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's just the way you build lore, especially as you release new games.
[SPEAKER_01]: in order to expand them.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, so it doesn't, like some people will say, well, that's an ESO thing, so it's not canon or whatever.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, he's not really how that works, but yeah, no.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, it's fine.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's fine.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I think it'd be wrong.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's cool, like, if you think about, like, think about their monastery, think about the area, when you go in the back and you do the dash thing because you get that shout for the first time, there's some room up there, like, I could imagine a dragon, like using that as a place to rest
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know doing other things right for sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: Also the fireworks coming through on my mic, sorry.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, they're not.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're never would sell the world.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, it's.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, just curious.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't have any other thoughts about this other than like, that's cool.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, me if I say yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think so too.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think it tracks it seems likely.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so there you go.
[SPEAKER_00]: Great beer is hiding in dragon.
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe they did.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that seems, uh, it seems like a thing they would do.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, it really does.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the definition of how much it's hidden, you know, you can kind of have up for debate.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: So there you go.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's number 56.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's going to do it for the list of this week.
[SPEAKER_00]: But we've got more to get to.
[SPEAKER_00]: And as I look at them, they're pretty cool.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's one on here titled Giants or Orcs.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's going to be fun.
[SPEAKER_00]: But we're going to take a quick break.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then we've got our patrons to thank and the random UESP page for the end of the show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, really, I was going to say I'm hoping that everything's not exploding in the background for anybody to watch in the live feed boots is looking around like are we being invaded?
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[SPEAKER_01]: She's actually super chill with fireworks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going into Season 1 and out of Season Zero and the Elder Scrolls Online.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we can do about that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, whatever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But, um, what do you call it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: try somewhat soon to group up and do some of the higher difficulty, like vestige master stuff like that, and map clearing, so people can get their achievements for doing the higher difficulty stuff, because it's actually pretty fun when you run in as a group on one of the higher difficulties.
[SPEAKER_01]: We had talked about that a little bit, the different difficulty sliders and stuff like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and as achievements tethered to that, so having a good group for that might make it fun for people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're still working on crossplay, maybe one day being a thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know, it's as soon as that happens.
[SPEAKER_00]: Seems like a thing that's like it's not done, but it's something they've done there.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's finally being worked on pretty, like I don't know how aggressively but I do know that it's on the block of being worked on, which is awesome.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I feel like until it was making progress and was in full development, they weren't going to say anything, which was what we got for so many years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's what I would love because we just get everybody into one universal one and I'll see.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But here we go, we've got the random page and we didn't talk about any ghosts or anything this week, but we did get
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, this is kind of a bummer.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a blade's entry.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's brutal.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's, this is what happens in the random button.
[SPEAKER_01]: So for, for context, uh, blades is now officially shut down.
[SPEAKER_01]: I warned everybody in advance that it was happening, and uh, yep, it's officially shut down.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, next one.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, next one.
[SPEAKER_01]: An extra twist of the blade that we got a blade.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's a bit tricky.
[SPEAKER_00]: Thunder the category, blades, items, materials, alchemy materials, and it's ectoplasm, which, oh, yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Sure's up in multiple games.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, it's ectoplasm is an alchemy material used to brew tier 5, 6 and 7 potions and poisons in blades specifically.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is the blades version of that, but of course you can find ectoplasm in other games.
[SPEAKER_00]: So there you go, there's not a whole lot of details, you know, 480 gold, some other little details here, who it's sold by and things like that, quality is uncommon, so yeah, you know, you get it from squeeze and ghosts, just squeeze the kids get the go out of the ghost, this is a ring about like it now, what, what do you do for living?
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a ghost farmer.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm a ghost,
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, actoplasm also known as ghost squeezens.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, oh, comes in like milk.
[SPEAKER_01]: Can cards.
[SPEAKER_01]: Tainers.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's go.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's going to say a bunch of cartons and one of those milk containers.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's like it looks like milk until you shake it.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then it's just like the consistency's just not right.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just morally.
[SPEAKER_01]: It almost looks like that stuff in a lava.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like why are we talking?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there you go.
[SPEAKER_01]: Actoplasm.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's our random picture of the week.
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you everybody for hanging out.
[SPEAKER_00]: I hope you're enjoying the icebergs as much as we are and live chat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Go, Stu.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's right, Reverend.
[SPEAKER_00]: Go, Stu.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so thanks for being here.
[SPEAKER_00]: Have a wonderful rest of your week, and we'll be back next week with more iceberg lore stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: So don't go, you know, we don't go, find it in that lore on your own.
[SPEAKER_00]: We'd first explain it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't, that doesn't make any sense.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think you're in time squeezing ghosts.
[SPEAKER_00]: So squeeze a ghost, and then we'll fill you in with more lore.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, thanks everyone.
[SPEAKER_00]: See you next time.
[SPEAKER_00]: Great one.
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