[UNKNOWN]: what is going on guys thank you so very much for joining us right here on Tuesday night to the Tuesday night tightens episode 157 where you're Tuesday July 28th 2026 I'm host shady from New York as always joined by the one and only the men who could single handedly take down the cyclops in the Odyssey it's a solid what's going on you enjoyed it I see right thought it was fucking incredible
[UNKNOWN]: I'm glad you enjoyed it.
[UNKNOWN]: Now my favorite scenes from the movie, the Cyclops scene, and the witch scene.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, the witch scene was very good.
[UNKNOWN]: Did you realize who played the witch?
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, should I?
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: Who?
[UNKNOWN]: Alpha.
[UNKNOWN]: Get out of here.
[UNKNOWN]: Really?
[UNKNOWN]: From the walking dead.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
[UNKNOWN]: Wow, they cast out one perfect.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, she was great.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Wow, you know, I didn't really, I knew the Odyssey lore and some of the literature.
[UNKNOWN]: I forgot about that scene.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm like, what is going on here?
[UNKNOWN]: I was, I was lured into a false sense of security.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm like, oh man, these guys are going to get a nice meal.
[UNKNOWN]: And they're going to have some respite after a long journey.
[UNKNOWN]: And then all of a sudden, all of a sudden, it's never goes that smooth.
[UNKNOWN]: Come on, come on there.
[UNKNOWN]: You do, there was impending doom coming and the best part about it and I didn't realize this until after is that everything you saw there in that scene were that was not CGI.
[UNKNOWN]: That was all practical effects.
[UNKNOWN]: Get it again.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm surprised.
[UNKNOWN]: That's that's crazy.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, no one is a stickler for very little CGI in the entire movie and he's a he's a big stickler for practical effects, which I appreciate because I love it.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, some of my favorite like horror movies and and I've been just horror movies were practical effects, you don't see a lot of that these days.
[UNKNOWN]: So yeah, that was great.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I would have, I would have loved to see a little bit more of the sirens with the sirens song part and then the six headed beast in the mountain.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm like, I knew that was coming, but I didn't really think that they would show that that sparse of it.
[UNKNOWN]: It wasn't enough.
[UNKNOWN]: I wanted to see what what the beast looked like.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, it's six tentacles and I knew the the lore behind it, like for the six heads that has it takes six sellers every time your ship goes through that little narrow canal.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, like, oh.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but now it's great now and I assume you didn't see did you see it in 70 millimetre did you know only one place in New York showing You know I I looked everywhere That that I looked to it was sold out.
[UNKNOWN]: It was like deep into August Yeah, well August September in some places.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so I I washed it here in town.
[UNKNOWN]: There was a small theater I could I would say there was maybe like 10 people in the entire theater on Saturday night Really
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, well, it's a small town, so that's it as bad as, but I thought Matt Damon's performance was great.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know who could possibly look at him and not think otherwise.
[UNKNOWN]: And then John Lake was on my, I thought he was, I thought he was fucking great.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, no, he was terrific.
[UNKNOWN]: I actually thought that Tom Holland was kind of like, eh, yeah, I mean compared to the other ones, compared to the other ones.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean he was just kind of there.
[UNKNOWN]: Like he wasn't bad, but he, he didn't detract from the movie, but I wouldn't go out of my way to say, oh man, he's, he should win all kinds of awards.
[UNKNOWN]: No, I wouldn't say that, but no, I mean, it was great.
[UNKNOWN]: The only thing I regret again, I wish seeing some of these images that people are posting online of what it looks like, like in real iMacs.
[UNKNOWN]: It looks, it looks a lot better.
[UNKNOWN]: It looks a lot better than seeing it in the iMacs, which is what I saw it in.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, if you guys want to go see it, two guys here highly recommend that all the noise on social media about the casting choices, they lasted legitimately three minutes of maybe five minutes of on airtime, like out of a three hour movie that didn't feel like three hours, social media is not real life people.
[UNKNOWN]: Go out and enjoy yourself.
[UNKNOWN]: That's what I have come to a conclusion for great movie.
[UNKNOWN]: So we'll get into a lot of what we had go on in the community
[UNKNOWN]: So much negativity and so much just.
[UNKNOWN]: whirlwind of news and where things are ending up in the pro wrestling landscape, we're going to get into all that busted open.
[UNKNOWN]: We'll talk about the WWE radio thing being that you got two content creators here, how it affects us, how we look at it from the outside looking in.
[UNKNOWN]: So we'll give you that perspective today.
[UNKNOWN]: We've both had a lot to say about it individually and it'll be cool to see how we come together on that topic.
[UNKNOWN]: Obviously we'll talk
[UNKNOWN]: We've got two nights, we'll go over premium predictions, everything that you saw in the weekly television shows, we'll just kind of integrate into the SummerSlam discussion.
[UNKNOWN]: We will be talking very briefly about AEW redemption, which I think the general consensus is it was largely a waste of five hours, so we will definitely get into that.
[UNKNOWN]: We'll touch upon some of the things that happened there.
[UNKNOWN]: Willows the new AEW, we're mischamping, we had that.
[UNKNOWN]: Angle play out at the end of the Kenny Omega and Kevin night match with Will Osprey and the death rotters will talk about that and when we go into all in And we'll talk that horrible just horrible segment with Danielle's in and Joe Hendry last night on Monday night raw Ryan Garcia involved in all the Shitstorm that he caused on social media or don't tell that to Tommy Dreamer.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean he he loved that segment
[UNKNOWN]: Are you kidding me, JD?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, I told Jason, uh, just straight up with for you guys.
[UNKNOWN]: We're not going to bullshit.
[UNKNOWN]: Your Tommy dry.
[UNKNOWN]: I got a clip sent to me about Tommy dreamer on busted open after dark with bully Ray, because they go live after NXT or during NXT, and he loved the den house and segment with Joe Hendry.
[UNKNOWN]: He said it was very good television.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think that's what you really need to be doing in this very rocky landscape right now.
[UNKNOWN]: So, yes.
[UNKNOWN]: We will not be going and embarking on that type of opinion here tonight so I can guarantee you.
[UNKNOWN]: But again, thank you for joining us here on Tuesday night titans episode 157.
[UNKNOWN]: Jason, we have a big show coming up in, what about two weeks, but not even a week, not even two weeks.
[UNKNOWN]: About a week and a half almost, not even.
[UNKNOWN]: So we got house glory on August 7th and we are putting together quite the match card over there.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we really are.
[UNKNOWN]: And again, this show is going to be live and free on YouTube.
[UNKNOWN]: So first time that we're doing this, you can stream the entire show on the official HOG YouTube channel.
[UNKNOWN]: We have the HOG World Champion Charles Mason is going to be on the card defending against the Mad King Eddie Kingston.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he's winding down a lot of his indie dates this year.
[UNKNOWN]: So this could very well be the last chance we have to call
[UNKNOWN]: Zilla Fattu, his name has been floating around for various reasons, but he's going to be with us in New York City.
[UNKNOWN]: He's going to be defending his crown jewel championship against the amazing red.
[UNKNOWN]: And I know this is a match that he's wanted for a very long time.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, it's going to go down in NYC.
[UNKNOWN]: We have Shotsi.
[UNKNOWN]: She's going to be taken on Shayna Basler for the women's championship, the black heart, Leo Rush.
[UNKNOWN]: It's fine.
[UNKNOWN]: He's going to be there.
[UNKNOWN]: He may be our new cruiser way champion.
[UNKNOWN]: Can you imagine that?
[UNKNOWN]: Ah, I can't actually.
[UNKNOWN]: I can.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, it could very well happen on that show.
[UNKNOWN]: He's going to be wrestling Darren Richardson.
[UNKNOWN]: And we got a lot of other big things planned on that show.
[UNKNOWN]: The hardies will be there.
[UNKNOWN]: So it's going to be a good time.
[UNKNOWN]: The two of us will be there.
[UNKNOWN]: Hopefully you will be too.
[UNKNOWN]: But if not, YouTube is going to be the place to be Friday night, August 7th.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, we'd love to see both of our communities just commiserate in the live stream chat.
[UNKNOWN]: So have fun with that.
[UNKNOWN]: And that's going to be a great show.
[UNKNOWN]: Can't wait for August 7th.
[UNKNOWN]: Very excited about that.
[UNKNOWN]: Also, if you guys want to follow Jason on social media and on YouTube, you guys know what to find him.
[UNKNOWN]: Everything is linked down below in the description.
[UNKNOWN]: Make sure you guys hit that subscribe button over here.
[UNKNOWN]: If you knew, we had a lot of new people coming over and finding the two count this morning with me in coach, hopefully you guys are going to do the same thing with Jason.
[UNKNOWN]: He's all over the place.
[UNKNOWN]: One of the hardest work in guys in the community.
[UNKNOWN]: He basically takes no days off here seven days a week, just kind of rocking it all.
[UNKNOWN]: And so he's got it on crown on the aerial, Hawaiian podcast network and
[UNKNOWN]: Make sure you guys go check that out.
[UNKNOWN]: And I was actually listening to that as I made dinner tonight.
[UNKNOWN]: So he was talking about some of the Joe Hendry stuff and Summer Slim.
[UNKNOWN]: Big weekend coming up.
[UNKNOWN]: So we get ready.
[UNKNOWN]: And then Super Chats are open.
[UNKNOWN]: I want to thank Haveli in the chat.
[UNKNOWN]: We got to give him a round of applause here tonight because Haveli, before we even open the doors here, $100 Super Chat.
[UNKNOWN]: My guy Haveli.
[UNKNOWN]: What's up, J.D.
[UNKNOWN]: and Salamasser, J.D.
[UNKNOWN]: Favorite SummerSlam, 96, 06, or 16.
[UNKNOWN]: Salamasser, in an episode of Docs Out of the Ring, Jake says the original plan was for him to face the warrior for the WWE Championship in 1991.
[UNKNOWN]: If this was true, what would happen to Hogan and Savage?
[UNKNOWN]: Thanks.
[UNKNOWN]: Goats.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, first of all, Haveli, you are the man.
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you for the support.
[UNKNOWN]: That is not true.
[UNKNOWN]: I will give Jake the benefit of the doubt and say that he's getting his timelines mixed up, but it's not true.
[UNKNOWN]: First of all, the timeline doesn't make any sense.
[UNKNOWN]: And because he's referring to you there, warrior had lost the championship at the beginning of 91.
[UNKNOWN]: So what he's saying doesn't even make any sense.
[UNKNOWN]: I remember him saying that in the warrior Thark side of the ring episode, it's not true.
[UNKNOWN]: Um, and then Summerslam, oh, 16 or uh, 96.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, um, it's either 96 or 16, 16 have that great, uh, AJ Styles John Cena match.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Um, I'm going to go 96.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to go 96, too.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Do you remember who the title sponsor was for 96?
[UNKNOWN]: I do not.
[UNKNOWN]: They had a blimp.
[UNKNOWN]: Stratics?
[UNKNOWN]: There you go.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: That was their title sponsor.
[UNKNOWN]: Those were simpler times than you did, where we had Stratics, the pimple pads, as like the big sponsor for WWE, and they had one blimp in the air from the air, right?
[UNKNOWN]: And that was it.
[UNKNOWN]: Now you're blessed with Dishore now!
[UNKNOWN]: What fire pizza?
[UNKNOWN]: The rest of it was pro wrestling.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, and now we live in a very different timeline, unfortunately.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, unfortunately, it is just disgusting and I'm sure we'll talk about that.
[UNKNOWN]: I know I rented my fucking balls off last night.
[UNKNOWN]: Just everything man.
[UNKNOWN]: Just a lot of angry came out.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm just disgusted with everything, but we'll get into all that in just a little bit.
[UNKNOWN]: I usually hand the ball off to Jason here.
[UNKNOWN]: I will in a second, but I want to start off with this because this is just a small story that I feel we could start off with being that he's supposed to be on NXT tonight.
[UNKNOWN]: And I think he will be
[UNKNOWN]: interviewed by bully Ray on busted open after dark tonight Mike Santana now we were live last week and he showed up while we were live here on TNT showed up at the end of NXT he did not have a name associated with him obviously it's talked about his accolades and obviously he heard his music and who he is you know who he is if you if you take a look at him no name and before you go any further yeah can we stop doing that
[UNKNOWN]: There was somebody on TikTok.
[UNKNOWN]: I wish I knew who it was.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if you saw that skit.
[UNKNOWN]: They did like a video, making fun of it.
[UNKNOWN]: Now, like the like Vic Joseph, every time somebody new debuts in NXT.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh my goodness.
[UNKNOWN]: Look who it is.
[UNKNOWN]: We know who that is.
[UNKNOWN]: And just like, but it's true.
[UNKNOWN]: It's so ridiculous.
[UNKNOWN]: Can we just kind of pump the brakes and wait?
[UNKNOWN]: Like if you're gonna change someone's name, can they at least get their name first before you go ahead and have to pretend like you don't know who the person is?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it is kind of lame and it's cheesy, but that's that's what they do.
[UNKNOWN]: They feel like it works somehow and some weird way, but I hate it.
[UNKNOWN]: So Mike Santana, we know who Mike Santana is and he is no longer Mike Santana.
[UNKNOWN]: There was a trademark that went out before he could actually get an official word out himself and WWE trademarked Cruz Montana.
[UNKNOWN]: Now, it sounds like a boss and GTA,
[UNKNOWN]: At first glance, I know everybody wants to shit on it.
[UNKNOWN]: And I did it with Gunther.
[UNKNOWN]: I did it with Finn Balor.
[UNKNOWN]: And I always remember road dog on social media saying, it's just a name everyone's going to get used to it in a week or two.
[UNKNOWN]: No, what is going to even realize the name change.
[UNKNOWN]: And that's the truth.
[UNKNOWN]: But at least he has a good reason for the name change.
[UNKNOWN]: He says a name I put together as a tribute to honor my late father who I've always made sure to keep as close as possible to my journey.
[UNKNOWN]: Losing him six years ago is what sent me on the spiral that I've eventually rise from to become the man you see today and today that man addicted to greatness he's to the next chapter let's get it.
[UNKNOWN]: So obviously it's a tribute to his father if you guys know his story and his resurrection.
[UNKNOWN]: you guys know how important his father was to him.
[UNKNOWN]: His family is to him in general.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't mind the name changes since long as it has a significant meaning to it.
[UNKNOWN]: We know better than a lot of people what that man has capable of.
[UNKNOWN]: We've seen him from the lows of lows to what he did in house of glory.
[UNKNOWN]: And just to pull back the current a little bit, I remember when
[UNKNOWN]: House of glory management came to both of us at the end of a show I forgot what it was and they were discussing putting the world championship on Mike Santana and we both said collectively that's fucking great let's do it and that was in my opinion one of the greatest decisions that House of glory ever made to have him is champion for as long as he was our champion he got to show himself in a way that I don't think any other place would have allowed him to do that
[UNKNOWN]: Brian and red did that in House of Glory.
[UNKNOWN]: We know what the guys capable of.
[UNKNOWN]: I wish him you wish him nothing but the best.
[UNKNOWN]: It's not going to be on cruise Montana or Mike Santana.
[UNKNOWN]: When you see him creatively not booked the way that you think he should be booked and you may be complaining that he went to NXT, but do you want him on the May roster with the current climate on the May roster?
[UNKNOWN]: No, no, I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: So this is the best move for him.
[UNKNOWN]: And I think this is a good, a good stage
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, no, I mean, I think him being in NXT at first is the right way to go here.
[UNKNOWN]: Let him dominate down there.
[UNKNOWN]: Let him make that his show.
[UNKNOWN]: And maybe carry the NXT Championship for a while.
[UNKNOWN]: And then when the time is right, he'll get that call.
[UNKNOWN]: Whether it's raw, smack down, and he'll be ready, because he's been ready.
[UNKNOWN]: He's been ready for a while now.
[UNKNOWN]: So like you said, we know what he's able to do when you put him in that position.
[UNKNOWN]: TNA fans got to see it to some degree when he was the champion there, a couple of different times.
[UNKNOWN]: And I have no doubt like in NXT, he'll do very well.
[UNKNOWN]: When it comes to the main roster, you know what?
[UNKNOWN]: It's a crap shoot.
[UNKNOWN]: Because there have been so many talented people.
[UNKNOWN]: that have come to WWE, they get called up, and it's 50-50, you know, and it has nothing to do with their talent or their abilities, right?
[UNKNOWN]: They never would have been signed if they didn't have the talent.
[UNKNOWN]: It all boils down to how they view them.
[UNKNOWN]: And what the booking looks like once they make it to RAW or smack that, I can't speak to what that looks like, but I know for him he's worked as ass off to get to this point.
[UNKNOWN]: And we wish him nothing but the best it's going to be fun to follow along and see how far he can get.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, it's going to be something that we both pay close attention to.
[UNKNOWN]: So I just want to get that out there first and foremost congratulations to him.
[UNKNOWN]: We're going to be watching everything he does because he is that good.
[UNKNOWN]: So please don't sleep on Mike Santana.
[UNKNOWN]: You're going to be in for a treat down at NXT.
[UNKNOWN]: All right, man, I'm going to give you the ball.
[UNKNOWN]: It's it's one of those weeks, man.
[UNKNOWN]: What do you want to talk about?
[UNKNOWN]: Well, since we were talking about Santana, maybe it makes sense to start with the many names that became free agents this past week, because they're 90 day non-competed periods expired.
[UNKNOWN]: And so we're already starting to hear certain things about some of these folks.
[UNKNOWN]: And then there's a lot of rumors swirling about others.
[UNKNOWN]: So I think you have the list.
[UNKNOWN]: I do have the list.
[UNKNOWN]: That's good.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: WWE cut roughly 25 names on April 24th, hours before SmackDown, which is typically what
[UNKNOWN]: In one of the largest single-day roster reductions in recent company history, May roster town was subject to 90 day non-compete clauses which now have lapsed opening the door for other promotions to sign them and scoop them up.
[UNKNOWN]: Some of the names are as follows, Kyri Sain, who apparently is now represented by Barry Bloom, as you see in her Instagram profile, so wherever she goes, the money will follow because that's what Barry Bloom does.
[UNKNOWN]: Alistair Black.
[UNKNOWN]: We don't know the the Scott Boris of the rest of the world is that we're looking out here.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes exactly where she ends up.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know but she's getting paid.
[UNKNOWN]: Alistair Black.
[UNKNOWN]: We don't know where he may end up.
[UNKNOWN]: I could see him in AEW because look at what Orange Roddy has been able to do.
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe he gets in a second at least on life in AEW.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know where he ends up.
[UNKNOWN]: What do you think him and Selena end up Jason?
[UNKNOWN]: I honestly don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: I really don't know what the mindset is of Tony Khan.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, Tony Khan would even have any interest in bringing him back in.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, publicly he probably would put a happy face on it.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know how he feels about that.
[UNKNOWN]: There's TNA, again, there's TNA as an option that you get into whether or not they give him what he's looking for, I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: So a little murky on him, I don't want to say like, I don't know that he burned a bridge with A, W, per se, but I don't know that Tony Con is going to necessarily be jumping out of his seat to bring him back.
[UNKNOWN]: Are they going to want to be a package deal?
[UNKNOWN]: Are they going to want to continue to work together?
[UNKNOWN]: If you want one, you get the other.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know how that's going to work.
[UNKNOWN]: How likely is it that Tony brings in Zalina and pairs Alina with Andrade?
[UNKNOWN]: I think that would actually work the way we're seeing Andrade's character develop in AWS.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but to do that with her and not want anything to do with him, I mean, again, we're just spitting falling here.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, is that something that, you know, would be cool with them?
[UNKNOWN]: As I said, do they want to work together?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Like they were doing in WWE.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: So where one goes, the other might want to go.
[UNKNOWN]: It's gonna be interesting.
[UNKNOWN]: I know she changed her name slightly.
[UNKNOWN]: It's still Selena, but now it's with an X and not a Z.
[UNKNOWN]: So.
[UNKNOWN]: George, I love, by the way.
[UNKNOWN]: What a way to get around that.
[UNKNOWN]: Sounds exactly the same, but just one little letter.
[UNKNOWN]: I love that.
[UNKNOWN]: It reminds me of Zina, warrior princess.
[UNKNOWN]: I was a big fan of that show.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, yes.
[UNKNOWN]: But before we do anything else, we have to acknowledge someone.
[UNKNOWN]: Uh-oh.
[UNKNOWN]: What happened?
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not even looking at it.
[UNKNOWN]: We have to acknowledge a bomb.
[UNKNOWN]: Uh-oh.
[UNKNOWN]: That was just dropped.
[UNKNOWN]: Whoa!
[UNKNOWN]: Oh my god, you're getting... You're getting the whole... Cabang here!
[UNKNOWN]: Whoa!
[UNKNOWN]: Brandon Jordan with a three hundred dollar super chat.
[UNKNOWN]: That's a fucking bomb.
[UNKNOWN]: Hey guys big fan of TNT and the channel in general Jay to be watching you since I was an eighth grade and your story about how you stuck to what you believed in is so motivating.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm 20 years old now and I'm an actor on Broadway and still always listening or watching much love bro OTS
[UNKNOWN]: You know those comments do not go unnoticed and I get more of them than I can count man 8th grade was Just looking back at that comment and where was I when you were in eighth grade?
[UNKNOWN]: Well, what was I doing where was I live in how was I acting probably a lot more crazy than I Now, yeah old man JD over here.
[UNKNOWN]: I know, but Brandon, thank you so much man that means the world to both Jason and I thank you for being here good luck And whatever you doing on Broadway man.
[UNKNOWN]: That sounds very exciting
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, keep us posted, that's actually very cool.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, very cool, and thank you for being a part of the TNT family man.
[UNKNOWN]: I appreciate that very much.
[UNKNOWN]: Wow, that's that's crazy man.
[UNKNOWN]: You don't know what to say sometimes when those when those big bombs coming like that.
[UNKNOWN]: That's that's ridiculous So we appreciate all the love and support.
[UNKNOWN]: Zalina now with an X and not a Z We'll see what happens with both of them uncle.
[UNKNOWN]: Howdy bodalus is a part of this list.
[UNKNOWN]: Nikki storm now formerly Nikki cross Dexter Lumis who just made his return to the Indies with Joe Gacy.
[UNKNOWN]: They're actually a tag team
[UNKNOWN]: Eric Rowan.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know where he'll end up.
[UNKNOWN]: Santos Escobar who also changed his name.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't have any fun of me right now, but he is uh, believe it.
[UNKNOWN]: Correct me if I'm wrong in the chat.
[UNKNOWN]: I believe it's Romeo Malverde.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
[UNKNOWN]: Is that a name?
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
[UNKNOWN]: So he is, uh, he is now under that alias.
[UNKNOWN]: No, no more is Santos Escobar.
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, Chris Sabre and Alex Shelley, who we could very well see on Wednesday.
[UNKNOWN]: I think we're going to absolutely see them this week.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, my god.
[UNKNOWN]: That.
[UNKNOWN]: Dynamite and collision are both in Detroit this week.
[UNKNOWN]: So if it's not Wednesday, it would be Thursday.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, look, I would debut them on the live show on Wednesday tomorrow.
[UNKNOWN]: I think it would be ridiculous to do it on a taped collision.
[UNKNOWN]: But they're in the Motor City this week.
[UNKNOWN]: So if ever, there was a time.
[UNKNOWN]: If they're coming into A. W. It is happening this week.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, they already announced that rhino will be a part of the A. W. tapings on Wednesday and Thursday.
[UNKNOWN]: So doing what?
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: He was somebody.
[UNKNOWN]: He scored somebody last time.
[UNKNOWN]: He was in Philadelphia.
[UNKNOWN]: I forgot who it was.
[UNKNOWN]: He'd go the doctor Hillary P. with him.
[UNKNOWN]: He's a house of worry.
[UNKNOWN]: I love because I've played that I replayed that 10 times.
[UNKNOWN]: That was one of the best spots last year.
[UNKNOWN]: It was great.
[UNKNOWN]: And Zoe Stark.
[UNKNOWN]: So she is going to be able to get back into the ring after a just unbelievably just terrible injury.
[UNKNOWN]: So WWE let her go in the middle of her rehabilitation just literally on the cusp of coming back.
[UNKNOWN]: So they could stick it with a son don't shine.
[UNKNOWN]: Hopefully she kills it.
[UNKNOWN]: I'd love to see what she does.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, a. W's got, you know, the story eyes every time Tony has free agents like this hit the free agent market.
[UNKNOWN]: It's going to be very tempting to not bring some of these names in.
[UNKNOWN]: We're talking about mortic city machine guns in the new day.
[UNKNOWN]: Obviously, those are four guys right there that are absolutely coming on in from what we've heard.
[UNKNOWN]: Kyrie I could see coming in.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm surprised we didn't see Kyrie kind of interfere in the Tecla match.
[UNKNOWN]: I had predicted what Jesse that I thought Kyrie was going to interview interfering in the Tecla match cost of the championship, but maybe we'll be on the road to Kyrie and Tecla at all in, but we didn't see that.
[UNKNOWN]: Um, any one of these other names Jason that you could see maybe going to AEW or maybe in Santos Escobar's case, CMLL?
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, ask him, yeah, Escobar for sure.
[UNKNOWN]: I could see Escobar end up in both places.
[UNKNOWN]: And Kyrie too, I mean, if Kyrie was to, let's say, go to Stardom, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Stardom has a working relationship with AEW.
[UNKNOWN]: And actually, Tekla is a champion right now in Stardom.
[UNKNOWN]: So just because she didn't show up at the paperview, doesn't mean they still can't set something up for Wembley.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, we still have several weeks.
[UNKNOWN]: So let's see what happens.
[UNKNOWN]: I would still imagine that Kyrie may end up involved here in some way.
[UNKNOWN]: Um, Zoey, Zoey is somebody who I think, uh, look, anybody should want to give her a shot, as far as their women's division is concerned.
[UNKNOWN]: You don't think she couldn't mix it up with any of the women in the knockouts division, or the AW women's division, and not contribute there, and she's gonna have a chip on her shoulder, man.
[UNKNOWN]: You have to know that given the way things worked out for the injury,
[UNKNOWN]: making that comeback getting cleared and then getting released.
[UNKNOWN]: That she's not going to have a chip on her shoulder to want to go out there and show people.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
[UNKNOWN]: All right.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to show you what kind of value I can bring.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: And that's a dangerous person, man.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, that she's going to be extra motivated.
[UNKNOWN]: So wherever she lands, she's going to contribute in a major way.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm actually very much looking forward to seeing what she can do.
[UNKNOWN]: It's going to be interesting to see how much money TNA can actually spend.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know how much they have budget wise, but they just had a great week ratings wise.
[UNKNOWN]: They hit over 300,000 people for TNA impact.
[UNKNOWN]: 305,000 in the ratings this week.
[UNKNOWN]: I think they had a very good thing.
[UNKNOWN]: The hearty's for that.
[UNKNOWN]: But what the hearty's do?
[UNKNOWN]: I don't I mean, I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, there was, well, they had this the righteous deletion.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, at the lake of reincarnation.
[UNKNOWN]: But again, to the people who wonder sometimes, yeah, they're the occasional comment.
[UNKNOWN]: And again, we have them as Tech Team champions in House of Glory.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, why is TNA still featuring the hearty so hard?
[UNKNOWN]: They've been around for a while now.
[UNKNOWN]: There's a reason why.
[UNKNOWN]: Because the hearty's are still a draw.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: And there's a lot of tag teams out there that want to work with them because the heartys arguably, I mean, every one will have their personal list of what they think are the greatest tag teams of all time.
[UNKNOWN]: The heartys are going to be on every single one of those lists most likely.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: So, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, when they pull numbers like that, it's not hard to see why they're featured in the way that they are.
[UNKNOWN]: They are the biggest attraction.
[UNKNOWN]: Make no mistake.
[UNKNOWN]: They are the biggest attraction in TNA.
[UNKNOWN]: more than any other singular act tag team or singles on that show.
[UNKNOWN]: The hearties, they are the attraction.
[UNKNOWN]: Like in the way Roman Reigns or Cody Rhodes would be in WWE, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Or again, pick the equivalent NAW, Kenny Omega, MJF.
[UNKNOWN]: That's what the hearties are to TNA.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I agree.
[UNKNOWN]: They are as important now to TNA as they were maybe fucking 15 years ago, honestly.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: That's incredible.
[UNKNOWN]: 307,000 viewers, a 0.05 in the 18 to 49 demo, just to give you guys an idea what the ratings were for TNA.
[UNKNOWN]: New high audience on AMC, if they brought in an Alistair Black in his Lena Vega or if they brought in a bow Dallas or any of these names that could really make a difference, especially at the top of the card with Nemeth as the World Champion.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I would love to see them continue that momentum.
[UNKNOWN]: Clearly there is some good faith there from the audience to the product especially when it comes to the hearties build around that I don't know how much money they got to spend but bring in an aim or two and see what they can do Ah What do you want to go man you want to start a w you want to stick with the w stuff?
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, let's let's talk redemption.
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, let's talk redemption.
[UNKNOWN]: Let's talk redemption.
[UNKNOWN]: We get it out of the way being that mostly the audience is watching NXT for the next hour.
[UNKNOWN]: Hopefully we'll get you out of here in about 25 minutes with this.
[UNKNOWN]: On a peeling and on enthusiastic show that was on Sunday night, Jason, I would vote live on our channels for it's the one thing that I will say right out of the gate is that the earlier start time really didn't make a difference and I don't understand why you start to show at 7 p.m. and you go off the air legitimately almost what was it seven minutes to midnight, almost the same exact time that an 8 p.m. show would go off the air.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know why he did that Tony Khan.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know why he said that he was moving it back and or moving it up rather and wanting to test the waters.
[UNKNOWN]: Bro, you had seven years to test the waters.
[UNKNOWN]: All he did realistically was move the show up so that he could get an extra two matches on the card that we didn't really need at the end of the night.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I mean, what he did was he avoided ending the show at almost one o'clock in the morning.
[UNKNOWN]: So instead he ended it almost 12 o'clock in the morning.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Look, I mean, I heard what he said also, you know, we were experimenting.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: The reason that the show was moved up to an earlier time is because there were a lot of people who were very upset about it after forbidden door.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: You can draw a straight line from one to the other.
[UNKNOWN]: because you had people who were like my god, like this, the main event didn't go to the ring it for Bindor until 1215 in the morning.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: So there was a lot of that sort of feedback on social media.
[UNKNOWN]: And all of a sudden, the next paper view is bumped up by now or so, that's the reason he did it.
[UNKNOWN]: I hope he keeps it that way going forward, but like you said, it's not gonna make that much of a difference really if we're still doing five hours plus.
[UNKNOWN]: I understand contractually he has to go three hours in 45 minutes minimum, that's the deal.
[UNKNOWN]: He made apparently, he's claimed that before.
[UNKNOWN]: three four hours though, it very different from five hours.
[UNKNOWN]: And so I think tightening the show up a little bit.
[UNKNOWN]: This is my argument.
[UNKNOWN]: People are like, well, I'm going to get my money's worth.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, he's giving people their money's worth.
[UNKNOWN]: Are you honestly going to, let's say you paid for this show?
[UNKNOWN]: Are you going to tell me that if he shaved two or three matches off the show that you would feel like you didn't get your money's worth?
[UNKNOWN]: I will get my money's worth.
[UNKNOWN]: I wouldn't look if we had eight matches on the show.
[UNKNOWN]: Let's say instead of 10 or 11, I wouldn't feel short change and it would make a world of difference.
[UNKNOWN]: First of all, I didn't pay for the show.
[UNKNOWN]: I washed it through other means.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, make your own conclusion sports you to the authority.
[UNKNOWN]: Report wasn't it.
[UNKNOWN]: I gave them my $50 for seven years man.
[UNKNOWN]: I just refused on this on the.
[UNKNOWN]: You have to wear your eye patch the next time we come here on the stream.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: No quality over quantity is what I've always preached.
[UNKNOWN]: If this went from seven to eleven and we got seven matches, eight matches, minimum.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, like Jason said, are you going to feel short changed?
[UNKNOWN]: Like, did you really not?
[UNKNOWN]: Did you really need to see Shida and my world on paper view or the dogs versus the Bang Bang gang?
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, you lose in sleep or we're not watching that exhilarating match-ons on there.
[UNKNOWN]: No.
[UNKNOWN]: Come on.
[UNKNOWN]: So this paper would, I mean, yeah, the thing with redemption.
[UNKNOWN]: The moment that Kenny Omega beat MJF to win the world championship
[UNKNOWN]: But they had a commitment to the show, extra money in their pocket.
[UNKNOWN]: They want to have this one last paper view here before we get to all in.
[UNKNOWN]: And so a show called Redemption was built around a main event that had nothing to do as it turned out with anyone's Redemption, unless I guess you can't will aspirate for dumping the death rioters.
[UNKNOWN]: But now we're really reaching.
[UNKNOWN]: So this paper view really didn't need to exist.
[UNKNOWN]: They could do one, I mean, it's not like, we haven't had, to use the WWE equivalent.
[UNKNOWN]: WrestleMania is their big event of the year, and they always have a paper view or PLA coming up before WrestleMania, right?
[UNKNOWN]: So this is not like a foreign concept in wrestling.
[UNKNOWN]: But I'm watching some of these matches, and I'm like, this match could have been a TV match.
[UNKNOWN]: That match could have been a TV match.
[UNKNOWN]: You could save that for like, you know, a big grand slam episode to Dynamite, which by the way, they have one coming up at Arena Mexico on August 5th.
[UNKNOWN]: And yeah, we got a lot of really good matches.
[UNKNOWN]: We got some not-so-gray matches on this show.
[UNKNOWN]: But when it was over, it just felt like somebody in my chat was like, this show was the equivalent of this could have been an email.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's kind of how I felt about redemption.
[UNKNOWN]: This could have been an email.
[UNKNOWN]: But it wasn't without it's newsworthy moments.
[UNKNOWN]: There were things that happened on the show It's just that it didn't necessarily have to be on the paper view.
[UNKNOWN]: It could have been on TV.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes It was a dynamite with a 50-dollar price tag is what it was more or less.
[UNKNOWN]: Well 40 if you're 40 if you're mounting it on HBO Max I will start here it means show we had a six-man ladder match.
[UNKNOWN]: No, I do want to say I do want to say one thing about the preacher
[UNKNOWN]: So on the pre-show, they had a celebration of the Rujo family.
[UNKNOWN]: So they had Jacques and Raymond, the Rujo brothers, come out to the ring and they were interviewed.
[UNKNOWN]: And Raymond Rujo, who's the mayor of like a nearby town, he cuts this promo, he's talking to the fans, all in French.
[UNKNOWN]: This went like, this was about as long as the Odyssey was.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, he just kept going on and on and on and on and then a little bit of English at the end and then Jacques, of course, was just chumped at the bit, ready to talk.
[UNKNOWN]: And when he did, he got booed.
[UNKNOWN]: so the fans in the building are booing him and then he kind of goes heal on the fans and now you get all kiss, you know, kiss my ass or whatever because he has a reputation as not being, you know, a great person and being somebody who, like, a lot of wrestling, I know Kevin Owens hate him.
[UNKNOWN]: Kevin Owens is not like Jacques Rujo.
[UNKNOWN]: You could look up that story.
[UNKNOWN]: So I think he was trying to play it off like, oh, I'm like a wrestling heel and I'm like, no, I just don't think these people liked him very much.
[UNKNOWN]: So it was it was kind of amusing to see that, but you know, the Rujo brothers look when I first started watching wrestling the Rujo brothers were part of a very robust tag team division.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, you and I often talk about tag team wrestling.
[UNKNOWN]: Those were the glory days of tag team wrestling, you know, and they were they were a big part of that.
[UNKNOWN]: You mean the current Monday night raw tag team division isn't lighting the world out fire is what you say put it this way.
[UNKNOWN]: We have two nights of summer slime this weekend and we have zero tag team type of events It three sets in fact Tag team titles not one of them are being defended this week.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, oh, this.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, this was written off television last night which now is the Monday night raw tag team divisions were whopping one team
[UNKNOWN]: The vision or the creeds.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know where the fuck they are.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know that they still employed.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know the work there.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: We may we may be finding out what ends on cast events.
[UNKNOWN]: I was coming in what what they'll be doing coming back to the WWE.
[UNKNOWN]: We'll see.
[UNKNOWN]: No, you know what on that subject is real quick because we had one last vignette last night for big cast again.
[UNKNOWN]: No, no sign events though.
[UNKNOWN]: No, so it feels like maybe they ended up not making that deal.
[UNKNOWN]: A lot of me unless he's going to pop up as
[UNKNOWN]: I'm okay with that, like I've been saying all along that I think big bill coming back and getting a singles push is the way to go and that's going to be kind of better for him.
[UNKNOWN]: So if he's really coming in by himself for singles run, I think that's a great move.
[UNKNOWN]: If they come in together, what are they walking into?
[UNKNOWN]: They're walking into nothing.
[UNKNOWN]: That's the whole point.
[UNKNOWN]: You're going to have bronze.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, we could go on about bronze breaker.
[UNKNOWN]: You're going to have bronze breaker in a tag team feud with Enzo Moray.
[UNKNOWN]: And is this where things are going to go for bronze breaker?
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, come on.
[UNKNOWN]: They have nobody.
[UNKNOWN]: There's no point.
[UNKNOWN]: There's no point in reuniting these two.
[UNKNOWN]: Now we'll see how Monday casts.
[UNKNOWN]: It's supposed to be showing up on Monday.
[UNKNOWN]: uh... beats more to show back up on a to be television as visa issues all square away so he's in there the six man lot of match with el clon nick wane who's back speedball mike bayley commander and jack perry
[UNKNOWN]: who wants the AW World Championship.
[UNKNOWN]: Everybody wants the AW World title.
[UNKNOWN]: He's in a lot of match though for the number one contendership for the international title.
[UNKNOWN]: This goes to Speedball Mike Bailey.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, if you saw a lot of match, you know, you've seen every lot of match because they're all basically the same commander is always impressive.
[UNKNOWN]: He does that top rope walk and he did a big big dive onto everybody.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, they were trying to kill Nick Wayne in this match because he took what you talked about there is the rope walk Dive that commander did and it was too Nick Wayne who was laid out on a table outside the ring and the later on Who was it was it?
[UNKNOWN]: Who was it that gave Nick Wayne the destroyer on the ladder bridge?
[UNKNOWN]: Commander.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't remember who I was.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't remember who was either.
[UNKNOWN]: No, it was Jack Perry.
[UNKNOWN]: I think it was Jack Perry.
[UNKNOWN]: Whoever it was, I just I was watching this match thing he meant.
[UNKNOWN]: Did he owe somebody money?
[UNKNOWN]: Like he was taking all kinds of abuse here in this match.
[UNKNOWN]: But when when speedball pulled the contract down, the place went nuts because this was his home providence.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: So everything he did they loved and anybody who did anything to him, they booed.
[UNKNOWN]: So it was the perfect time if you were going to put him in a match like this.
[UNKNOWN]: This was the place to do it.
[UNKNOWN]: He got a superstar reaction.
[UNKNOWN]: Speaking of people, also did a hot jump off the ladder on the stage onto everybody in the typical, you know, everybody waits down below and waits for the guy to jump on them spot which I can't stand.
[UNKNOWN]: I wish they would do away without spot.
[UNKNOWN]: All these matches have those kinds of vibe.
[UNKNOWN]: It's not stupid.
[UNKNOWN]: But he wins this match here.
[UNKNOWN]: Now he's no more contender to the international title held by Kyle Fletcher and the match was made.
[UNKNOWN]: full grand slam Mexico on August 5th at Arena Mexico.
[UNKNOWN]: Now the last time these two wrestled.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if it was early this year on Dynamite, but I'm going to go back even further than that in the continental class.
[UNKNOWN]: I could end it up being one of the best made event matches, well, best matches period on Dynamite in 2025.
[UNKNOWN]: So obviously, their work together is incredible, so I'm expecting that arena Mexico match with the ambiance and the whole vibe there to be even better.
[UNKNOWN]: The thing is Jason, I question this with Jesse, you know, I don't know where they're going with Kevin Knight going into all in.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know what they're doing with Darby if they're going to pet them together for the TNT Championship, going into Wembley Stadium.
[UNKNOWN]: Don't you think that this should have been for the normal contentorship for the TNT championship and maybe set up speedball versus Kevin night at all and did you have any thought of that at all when when watching this match play out.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I did and it doesn't mean that they can't still set it up that way.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I don't know if Kevin night would because Kevin night's part of the same faction is Kyle Fletcher.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: now they don't necessarily like each other very much but who's to say that Kevin Knight doesn't get involved in that match and cost speed ball and that's kind of leads to speed ball going off with Kevin Knight because like you said that would have made more sense I still feel like that may be the match which is because they already kind of blew off the Darby match right I mean Kevin Knight beat Darby the other week yeah but he won yeah yeah true so they could run it back but
[UNKNOWN]: No, they may still come around to doing that.
[UNKNOWN]: But yeah, on the surface, it seems like that would have made more sense.
[UNKNOWN]: That is going to be great match though.
[UNKNOWN]: I am looking forward to that very much.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so we'll see what happens with that.
[UNKNOWN]: So he wins that, uh, tag team match here with the young bucks will last break and, um, John Moxley.
[UNKNOWN]: So this was actually something the bucks said today on being the elite that this was their idea.
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, they put this match together.
[UNKNOWN]: And it was very personal for them.
[UNKNOWN]: So they said that today on their live log on YouTube.
[UNKNOWN]: But the whole story here was the beginning stages of the Osprey and John Moxley situation.
[UNKNOWN]: So we got a situation in the match where
[UNKNOWN]: I think it was Nick Jackson, who got hit with a hit and blade, and they started selling the head trauma angle in the match, and John Moxley was very obsessive hearing, and we'll ask for it to stay on the attack, and he wanted him to go for the kill and take that final kill shot, and and we'll ask for it was very hesitant in everything he wanted to do here, because he felt like it wasn't necessary, so John Moxley basically tagged himself in, and he took things and took matters into his own hands.
[UNKNOWN]: So, Moxie brought in a chair and knocked the referee down.
[UNKNOWN]: He went to hit Nick Osprey takes the chair away from John Moxley.
[UNKNOWN]: So Matt Superkick, the chair and thought, will it we'll ask for his face?
[UNKNOWN]: Bucks then turn the match around, kick Moxley in the head, and this leads to an eventual win for the young bucks here.
[UNKNOWN]: So Osprey and Moxley's, I guess, kind of whole, whole plan here,
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so I think I think they bonked head.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if it was a hidden blade, but the funny part about that is, so Nick Jackson is selling his head, right?
[UNKNOWN]: He's all woozy, right?
[UNKNOWN]: And he was basically doing that for it, not the entire match, but like large portions of the match.
[UNKNOWN]: And I'm just like, is this referee completely an up tier?
[UNKNOWN]: This man looks like he's totally on Dream Street.
[UNKNOWN]: And like the referee doesn't seem, you know, too concerned about either getting him out of the match or stopping the man, I understand why they didn't want to stop it,
[UNKNOWN]: I thought that was goofy.
[UNKNOWN]: I do have to say a couple of things about just the young bucks here.
[UNKNOWN]: In some ways it was a very different young bucks match because for parts of the match it was very slow.
[UNKNOWN]: And again, they were kind of focusing on Nick's head and everything and Matt was trying to protect his brother.
[UNKNOWN]: And I was like, OK, they slow things down a little bit.
[UNKNOWN]: That's a little bit different.
[UNKNOWN]: They're trying to tell more of a story.
[UNKNOWN]: And then there was this flurry, this offensive flurry in the middle of the match where everybody was hitting a big move.
[UNKNOWN]: And Will Osprey comes flying out like from off-screen with a 450 splash.
[UNKNOWN]: And he lands on Nick Jackson and I said, Jesse, and I talked about this on Sunday.
[UNKNOWN]: Hit your perfect 450 Splash.
[UNKNOWN]: And I watch Nick Jackson just get right back up to his feet like it didn't even have it.
[UNKNOWN]: I was like, what the, what, what?
[UNKNOWN]: Can you explain this to me?
[UNKNOWN]: It was the worst, no cell I see to the entire year.
[UNKNOWN]: I, I couldn't believe it.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm like, what, what was the purpose of that?
[UNKNOWN]: Why even do the spot?
[UNKNOWN]: Dude, he got right back up.
[UNKNOWN]: Probably it was the most perfect 450 you probably ever see from anybody.
[UNKNOWN]: And now some real impact, too.
[UNKNOWN]: Like, really like it out.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm like, you knocked the window out of the guy.
[UNKNOWN]: And he just gets right back up to his feet, like it didn't even happen.
[UNKNOWN]: This is why the criticisms come down on a, w for the way that they have every mess off.
[UNKNOWN]: Light up the same way.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, in some ways, it was the best of the young bucks.
[UNKNOWN]: If you're a young bucks fan, right, you got a lot of young bucks stuff, but it was also the worst of the young bucks.
[UNKNOWN]: Kind of got the tail of two cities here in this match.
[UNKNOWN]: But yes, so Osprey didn't do what Moxley was willing to do, but because Osprey hesitated the story was that it cost him the match.
[UNKNOWN]: Which I said coming into it like this needs to be a bucks win, because it's just more interesting, right?
[UNKNOWN]: If Osprey and Moxley lose, because they've won all their matches so far, and if you're gonna have the bucks challenging for the tag team's titles, why the hell would you have them lose?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: It was a good match.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I've seen better box-stay team match.
[UNKNOWN]: It was a good match, but again, that 450 spot.
[UNKNOWN]: That dude, that was a grigis.
[UNKNOWN]: It was terrible.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: That was just fucking offensive.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: So that was the story there that will come into play in the main event, whatever happened on Spray and John Moxley.
[UNKNOWN]: Kyle Fletcher and Ben Dito.
[UNKNOWN]: This was for the international championship.
[UNKNOWN]: Why?
[UNKNOWN]: Because Ben Dito shoved the wanted post from Kyle Fletcher's chest two weeks ago on Dynamite and all of a sudden, a match was made.
[UNKNOWN]: This was after Ben Dito had lost his worth and lost to John Moxley, a forbidden door for the continental championship.
[UNKNOWN]: Now he wanted to wrestle for the international championship, while also being the ring of honor champion, and he just continues to lose matches on big paper views.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know what Tony Collins thinking, but Ben Ditto is better than that.
[UNKNOWN]: Jason, this match will 27 minutes.
[UNKNOWN]: 27 minutes off of a match that was built off of a wanted poster shoved in Kyle Fletcher's chest.
[UNKNOWN]: He was very upset that his promo was interrupted in that backstage segment and he just wasn't gonna let it go Yeah, I said on my end I said this you know what this was this was a great 15 minute match And then they just kept going.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know and going and going and going and going
[UNKNOWN]: Tony Con does these things.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm convinced Tony Con does these things because he knows the match doesn't make any sense.
[UNKNOWN]: There's no story about the match and why it's happening.
[UNKNOWN]: So he just lets them go out there and Russell for 30 minutes to prove a point.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, look, it's a great match.
[UNKNOWN]: We didn't use story.
[UNKNOWN]: I broke.
[UNKNOWN]: We know Kyle Fletcher and Bandito are very capable of being a great pro wrestler in the ring.
[UNKNOWN]: We don't need to see them.
[UNKNOWN]: Russell 30 minutes every paper view just because.
[UNKNOWN]: I would call a flutter so much better than that and bandero so much better than that too, but flutter got the win and what was a very good match.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, who's going to remember to talk about it after Sunday?
[UNKNOWN]: Hunter, we are.
[UNKNOWN]: And that's the last we'll talk about it.
[UNKNOWN]: But no reason for flutter to lose the championship.
[UNKNOWN]: He's got something brewing with Takesh to still who came back on Wednesday.
[UNKNOWN]: And then we got Ocada.
[UNKNOWN]: So like Jason said several times on this show, we're probably looking towards a triple threat match at all in between Takesh to Flesher and Ocada for the International Championship at Wimbler Stadium.
[UNKNOWN]: And we go, unfortunately, into what could have been on AW rampage and rampage doesn't even exist, which is my point.
[UNKNOWN]: The match shouldn't have existed the dogs.
[UNKNOWN]: This is Clark Connors and David Finley-Vish J.
[UNKNOWN]: White and Jews Robinson.
[UNKNOWN]: This was a double Shane match.
[UNKNOWN]: 18 minutes.
[UNKNOWN]: Jason, 18 minutes.
[UNKNOWN]: Is this going to be, this was a good, a eight-minute match.
[UNKNOWN]: Just to go on, based off what you said with Fletcher and Bandito being a good 15-minute match.
[UNKNOWN]: Crap, Crap was, well, the Crap was dead for a good reason.
[UNKNOWN]: I hated this match.
[UNKNOWN]: It was off.
[UNKNOWN]: This was the worst thing on the entire show.
[UNKNOWN]: Do you realize there was a double chain that there was two chains here?
[UNKNOWN]: And the, the whole equalizer at the end of the match was the dreaded shellily.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: I sell the brutality of this chain badge.
[UNKNOWN]: We have to end with a completely different foreign object.
[UNKNOWN]: Any thoughts on, any thoughts on Shay White almost getting a knack injury here?
[UNKNOWN]: Well, yeah, it was obviously very scary because these chains, it looked like David Finley got tripped up on the chain.
[UNKNOWN]: And so that was sort of what led to this.
[UNKNOWN]: Very, very scary.
[UNKNOWN]: He was giving him a dominator.
[UNKNOWN]: And it looked like, and I said this on on Crown earlier, I said, you know, J.Y.
[UNKNOWN]: is very lucky to be up and moving around and he has this catchphrase.
[UNKNOWN]: He goes, breathe with the switch plate, right?
[UNKNOWN]: That's his thing, breathe with the switch plate.
[UNKNOWN]: I said on my end, I said, man, he's just lucky.
[UNKNOWN]: He's able to breathe without the help of a machine after that spot.
[UNKNOWN]: Because that could have gone very badly.
[UNKNOWN]: So that sucked and then the match itself, the most egregious sin of the match for me, I just thought it was boring.
[UNKNOWN]: These guys were whipping the shit out of each other with the chain.
[UNKNOWN]: They were doing their thing.
[UNKNOWN]: They were having what they felt like was probably some epic encounter.
[UNKNOWN]: Like you said, the crowd was quiet.
[UNKNOWN]: They didn't really seem to be into it, and I was just bored watching it.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I can't say that this feud has really done much for me to begin with.
[UNKNOWN]: We had a singles match on Dynamite last week in Boston, between J.
[UNKNOWN]: White and Clark Conters.
[UNKNOWN]: That was J.
[UNKNOWN]: White's first match, singles match in like 15 months, and I felt the same way about that match.
[UNKNOWN]: That match was a slog to get through.
[UNKNOWN]: And it pains me to say that because I like J.
[UNKNOWN]: White and he's been gone for so long and I'm glad he's back but like this ain't it
[UNKNOWN]: Remember when there was discussion about David Finley joining NXT and leading this group hold a birthright on NXT television?
[UNKNOWN]: I'm sure he's happy, but I don't think WWE is losing sleep over not bringing in David Finley to NXT.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: The whole story line just reminds me of MFT's and White Sex.
[UNKNOWN]: It's just fucking garbage.
[UNKNOWN]: I can't stand it.
[UNKNOWN]: Then we're probably looking at Jay White and David Finley in some capacity at Wimbler Stadium, sadly.
[UNKNOWN]: Jay White's so much better than that.
[UNKNOWN]: So then when 18 minutes and the dogs needed the wind here because I'm assuming that the Bang Bang gang will win the war with the dogs and no gate kid yet don't know what's happening with him if he's injured or if it's another visa issue I don't know what's going on in.
[UNKNOWN]: Shida, TBS Championship defended here against my world, 17 minutes.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know how hard I let me I'm not on cage match.
[UNKNOWN]: Was there any match that went less than 16 or set was this the shortest match?
[UNKNOWN]: I might have been.
[UNKNOWN]: I will I will tell you I will tell you.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, you look that up.
[UNKNOWN]: I have to point this out.
[UNKNOWN]: That when I did my predictions for this paper view, right?
[UNKNOWN]: We were ten matches on this show, right?
[UNKNOWN]: At least on the main card.
[UNKNOWN]: We had ten matches.
[UNKNOWN]: I got nine out of ten right.
[UNKNOWN]: The one match that fucked me over was this match right here.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Because I didn't think after so soon after putting the TBS title on Shita, which was sitting dormant for a month by the way, and then they had that match on July 1st, I think it was, and then she won the championship, I didn't think that they were going to take the title away from her this quickly.
[UNKNOWN]: That was the only reason I didn't go with my world, and now I'm, I'm freaking pissed.
[UNKNOWN]: 9 out of 10 I went on this show.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, I mean, that's still good.
[UNKNOWN]: You still, you still bat 900.
[UNKNOWN]: It's still good, but, you know, so what was the, what was the shortest match of your luck?
[UNKNOWN]: The shortest match was actually willow and tackle a 15 minutes and 58 seconds.
[UNKNOWN]: That's according to Kgmash.net.
[UNKNOWN]: So 15 minutes was the shortest match of the 10.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
[UNKNOWN]: on the show.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, this one went exactly which happened by the way to be one which happened by the way to be one of the biggest matches on the show.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, coming into it.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, this match when 16 minutes and 37 seconds.
[UNKNOWN]: I will I will be giving you the time for these matches because it was just egregious how how awful awfully long their show was.
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't like this match at all.
[UNKNOWN]: It's going to say for collision.
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't care about why this happened.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't even know why this happened.
[UNKNOWN]: I guess my world came out and saved someone from a beat down.
[UNKNOWN]: I think it was Queen Army not.
[UNKNOWN]: Who should have been in this whole TBS championship situation to begin?
[UNKNOWN]: Was she should have been the champion?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: But they gave it to Sheeda.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so I look I don't mind them putting the belt on Maya because I I wasn't really a fan of the decision to put the belt on Shida in the first place.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and I like the fact that Maya at least they're continuing to push for Maya.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, my concern was that she was going to go off to do something with Athena in Ring of Honor and, you know, barely anybody would notice.
[UNKNOWN]: So now she's the TBS champion, which means there should be on a w television.
[UNKNOWN]: So I see that as being a good thing.
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't hate this match in the way that you did nice saw other people also really didn't like it.
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't think it was great.
[UNKNOWN]: But I also didn't think it was necessarily as bad as some people thought it was until we got down the stretch with the near falls I think me and Jesse kind of chalked it up to she'd a losing a step or two She doesn't she doesn't feel the same no, no, she doesn't I've said that since she came back But it was the constant near falls That just took me out of it
[UNKNOWN]: She must have blasted Maya, like knee strike after knee strike after knee strike and then maybe the katana she was hitting her with all these moves and it was just kick out after kick out after kick out after kick out after kick out and like after a while it's like okay like how is she gonna win like whoever wins this match how are they going to win and it ended exactly the way I knew that it was going to end with a flash pin I knew it
[UNKNOWN]: I knew it.
[UNKNOWN]: She to try for her falcon arrow and she didn't even execute that properly.
[UNKNOWN]: It was just a mess.
[UNKNOWN]: I agree with you on my world and glad that they're continuing to push for her instead of going to Ring of Honor just disappearing into obscurity.
[UNKNOWN]: So good on Tony for doing that, who should Russell's going into Wimbler Stadium?
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, they got a talented women's division.
[UNKNOWN]: They just need to develop a reason why and maybe develop a little bit of a story going into all of them for her first title defense.
[UNKNOWN]: We'll see what happens.
[UNKNOWN]: uh... tag team championship match which in my opinion was the best match up until this point because it was just it felt like a normal match it is no reason why this match took place it just felt like a normal match without all the fucking false finishes and the big spots in all the craziness coping cage defended against the death rioters clodio and pack here this man would match when eighteen minutes and thirty six seconds obviously uh... coping and christian one the match i mean
[UNKNOWN]: Do you remember why this match took place?
[UNKNOWN]: Why were they wrestling the bench warmers here for the death ride?
[UNKNOWN]: Well, because the death rider is apparently had consistently gotten involved in their business.
[UNKNOWN]: And Copeland said he wanted to just put an end to them once and for all.
[UNKNOWN]: Because they beat the death rider's C team on Dynamite.
[UNKNOWN]: They did.
[UNKNOWN]: And so this was the death rider's B team.
[UNKNOWN]: We have the Death Riders 18 earlier against the young boss as that's how they got going on read the different teams.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, I mean am I wrong now.
[UNKNOWN]: So, but here's the thing I've noticed the bet these coping Christian matches, especially with Copeland, he sells for like 90% of them.
[UNKNOWN]: Basically what is matches are at this point.
[UNKNOWN]: He just sells and sells and sells and sells and sells and then makes the big comeback at the end.
[UNKNOWN]: So it followed that exact same formula here.
[UNKNOWN]: It got it got good there towards the end.
[UNKNOWN]: And so it was it was a good match that they had, but most of it was a handy cat match where you had some combination of pack or or pack and quality of beating up Christian or when he would tag out they were beating up Copeland.
[UNKNOWN]: and then in the end, they pulled it out.
[UNKNOWN]: Which again, there was no drama or doubt as to what the outcome of this match was gonna be because we all knew what the destination would be for London.
[UNKNOWN]: Is there anybody who did not expect that this was not going to be the setup for the young bucks match on that show?
[UNKNOWN]: Well, a smart people question why the young bucks weren't in texting title contention already after kind of setting themselves up for that.
[UNKNOWN]: So we got these two guys challenging for the titles and then when Cajun called one,
[UNKNOWN]: and the graphic is already thrown up before word is even said and it's now official for all and it's going to be the young bucks versus coping cage at all in Wembley Stadium and I have to ask you how do you think the makeup of that match is going to be because we know what the young bucks like to do and how their style is.
[UNKNOWN]: How is coping cage going to kind of go into that match wrestling the way that they usually they're going to pick it up a little bit or the bucks are going to have to wrestle coping cage style.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I don't know if they can pick it up enough to, you know, match up to the usual bucks pace.
[UNKNOWN]: The bucks are going to have to kind of slow it down and go down to their level that they're capable of.
[UNKNOWN]: Or they're going to add more teams to it, so you don't put as much on coping Christian.
[UNKNOWN]: There is still time, you know, we can very well get an FTR return.
[UNKNOWN]: We don't know when the new day is going to show up.
[UNKNOWN]: I have no doubt that they will be coming in.
[UNKNOWN]: It's just a matter of when at this point.
[UNKNOWN]: So who's to say that it stays two on two?
[UNKNOWN]: They may add another one or two teams to this.
[UNKNOWN]: The thing is, like if they wanted to add a stipulation, like let's say a ladder match.
[UNKNOWN]: We just had a ladder match.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
[UNKNOWN]: So to me, it's like, well, if they are going to add a stipulation, I wouldn't be adding a ladder match, because you already did one on this show.
[UNKNOWN]: I think Tony didn't Tony say that he he wants to do something in regards to like a tag team,
[UNKNOWN]: Sometime this year or maybe early in actually did you hear that news I mean it's possible did you say that at the scrum
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if you said it at the scrum, but I heard the box, I think the box mentions something that Tony said something, the put eyeball emojis to the possibility of a tag team tournament.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, all these teams coming in.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I mean, sure.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, you could do it.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, other promotions have had tag team tournaments like that.
[UNKNOWN]: I think TNA, many years ago, have like a world, I forgot what they called it, but I think they had teams representing different countries, like almost like the World Cup.
[UNKNOWN]: so i mean it's it's been done before and it's not like they don't have enough tag teams of their own to to supply for something like that and they have the partnerships with new Japan and they have the partnership with CMLL maybe they can get you to icing from new Japan and you know mystico in and making part of a team in there so i didn't hear him say that but it wouldn't shock me he's got a lot of ideas
[UNKNOWN]: He's got a lot of ideas that is correct.
[UNKNOWN]: The texting division is their strongest asset right now and we'll only get stronger.
[UNKNOWN]: So I'm excited to see what they do there.
[UNKNOWN]: No whole's board match, Chris Jericho, the pain maker came out to Judas Priest, painkiller, excellent, fucking song, classic song.
[UNKNOWN]: Nobody cared, I'm not sure y'all though.
[UNKNOWN]: It's just a great metal song.
[UNKNOWN]: Nobody cared that he came out to painkiller.
[UNKNOWN]: Against the Moscow champ.
[UNKNOWN]: That's all.
[UNKNOWN]: That's older than me.
[UNKNOWN]: And you.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, that's probably one of you, because not as popular as certain other older songs, and so people were like, what is this?
[UNKNOWN]: The payment to the sing Judas, maybe they were very, I guess.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, they didn't get Judas or Metal Incas, because that's why I was attacked.
[UNKNOWN]: But what's his name?
[UNKNOWN]: Copeland, they're in the ring, right?
[UNKNOWN]: So, uh, no sing to play Metal Incas when they want them.
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, no, the Bucks came in into Rotter.
[UNKNOWN]: Right away.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: It was a little jitterman like 10, 15 seconds later.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: That was a couple of months from Montréal tonight.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, that's not.
[UNKNOWN]: Um, yes, there's the pain maker versus the, uh, cycle killer to muscle champ a 21 minutes and 52 seconds was the, uh, Bell to Bell here for this match.
[UNKNOWN]: This would listen.
[UNKNOWN]: I, I can't stand the plunder, the blood, the nonsense we see it every week.
[UNKNOWN]: There's no, there's no way around that Tony's got to fetish for it.
[UNKNOWN]: Hey, W's going to do it.
[UNKNOWN]: The more you do it, the less impactful it is.
[UNKNOWN]: I've always said that and I'll look, I will continue to say that.
[UNKNOWN]: But.
[UNKNOWN]: This was fun.
[UNKNOWN]: I think Champ is fucking great.
[UNKNOWN]: Jericho seems to be having fun.
[UNKNOWN]: He's not jammed down on a throat.
[UNKNOWN]: He's having fun.
[UNKNOWN]: He says, today, I just seen an article that he will continue to do what he's got to do as long as he's have a fun doing it, which God bless him.
[UNKNOWN]: The thing with this is Jason, I don't really know if this match and the story and the feud between these two needed or all the hijinks and the power drills and the hockey pucks and the hockey sticks and all the rigor
[UNKNOWN]: This was a fun match and him attacking champ attacking the stuffed animal in the middle of the ring the the Montreal Canadians mascot stuffed animal Got the biggest popular night
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know what that says about the man.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, but you just thought that would be nice.
[UNKNOWN]: He gave a fucking long bloke to the fucking stuff.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, he put a Boston Brewing jersey on too.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I think.
[UNKNOWN]: He did.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
[UNKNOWN]: You said the Jericho's probably having a good time.
[UNKNOWN]: My impression is that Champa is probably having the time of his life.
[UNKNOWN]: True.
[UNKNOWN]: Because now he's got the freedom to go out there and have the kinds of matches that he wanted to have in WWE, but he couldn't.
[UNKNOWN]: And I'm sure his partner is probably watching, and he's probably a little bit jealous.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, watching Champa go out there and do his thing.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, he's laying on a crate, you know, planking every week.
[UNKNOWN]: So Champa going out there and using all kinds of weapons and bleeding all the time, like he looks like he's having a blast.
[UNKNOWN]: The, if you want to sum up the ridiculousness of this match, it goes beyond the stuffed animal.
[UNKNOWN]: I all I need to do is just sit here and tell you that Chris Jericho won the match with a power drill.
[UNKNOWN]: And that pretty much just sums up the entire situation.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if Champa verbally submitted or the referee just.
[UNKNOWN]: I think the referee just called it.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I mean, I guess that would be kind of the red line.
[UNKNOWN]: You don't cross, right?
[UNKNOWN]: You use a power drill on someone's skull.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I mean, I mean, I guess somewhere somewhere a hardcore enthusiast is having a blast with this.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't, I'm just happy.
[UNKNOWN]: You know what I'm happy about?
[UNKNOWN]: That's all I'm happy about well we got we got hockey puck slamming on hockey Pucks that was a mirror that was broken in between two steel shares with an air rate crash a terrible spot through a bar bar table where Shampa's foot got caught on the ring apron.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean he could have just fucking he would he could have been out for nine months instantly right right there.
[UNKNOWN]: So thankfully he's all right and the match ended with a Judas effect with a thumb
[UNKNOWN]: And then the drill, obviously, like Jason said to the head and the referee merely call for the bell.
[UNKNOWN]: That was it.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, it is what it is more Ra W blood implon their typical pay per view.
[UNKNOWN]: Mark Davis and Andrade, National Championship match.
[UNKNOWN]: Smash went according to Cage match, 16 minutes and 13 seconds.
[UNKNOWN]: I expected this to go at least 20.
[UNKNOWN]: It didn't.
[UNKNOWN]: Thank God it didn't.
[UNKNOWN]: Andrade wins the titles the new National Champion.
[UNKNOWN]: I know Jason is very very heartbroken that his guy, Mark Davis lost the belt.
[UNKNOWN]: Now he may have to go back and team with Jake Doyle.
[UNKNOWN]: uh... this is the right move number one not thought what they did was good but again jesus like everything else we talked about this really have a lot of heat coming to yeah i mean they're they're trying to tell the story were undrade is running through the different members of the calis family one by one davis was was next in line and his goal is to still win the world championship obviously that's not going to be happening for a while you know he's got the national title now
[UNKNOWN]: And look, I've enjoyed the hell out of what Andrade has done since he came back to the company.
[UNKNOWN]: He's having a hell of a run for himself.
[UNKNOWN]: And Mark Davis, I would like to see him continue doing single stuff.
[UNKNOWN]: My guess would be he probably slides back into the tag team picture.
[UNKNOWN]: but he was kind of a revelation for me this year where I did not expect him to get a singles push and he took advantage of the opportunity that was given to him and he went out there and he's had some killer matches this year.
[UNKNOWN]: So hopefully we get to see more.
[UNKNOWN]: So far through the year is my David show breakout star here.
[UNKNOWN]: Um, yeah, well, I mean, if he's not my breakout star, he's he's definitely like top top three on the list.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: I think you got to put Kevin night on that list, too.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: So I don't want to just say it's Mark Davis and number one, but he's he's up there.
[UNKNOWN]: Andrade is doing some great stuff.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if the plan is, because he's got the dynamite diamond ring to do Andrade and MJF and Mexico.
[UNKNOWN]: Do we see MJF come back to television?
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, they don't got much time to build that match.
[UNKNOWN]: If he was to come back this week, that would be the week to do it.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, no, that doesn't feel like it's gonna happen.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know what we'll see.
[UNKNOWN]: Andrade versus MJF at all in.
[UNKNOWN]: Is that the plan?
[UNKNOWN]: Could be.
[UNKNOWN]: I wouldn't see the point, look, if MJF.
[UNKNOWN]: wanted the match with Kenny bumped up to Beachbreak because he was beat up.
[UNKNOWN]: And he needed time off to heal up from injuries with a leg or whatever.
[UNKNOWN]: We just had the paper view on Sunday.
[UNKNOWN]: Grants lie in Mexico.
[UNKNOWN]: That's next week.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: So, like I'm just looking at this and I'm saying, okay, if it was injury related,
[UNKNOWN]: Why would you keep him off this show and take away the main event that you had originally planned if all you're going to do is bring him back Let's say on dynamite this week to promote him for a match on next week's show What's sense with that make it makes no sense right so I'm not sure why you even brought that up because it just doesn't make any sense Does does anything this place does make sense?
[UNKNOWN]: Honestly, I'm struggling every week in wrestling in general to figure out, like, is there anything that truly makes sense these days?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Or am I the crazy one?
[UNKNOWN]: No, you're not crazy.
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe we're losing our minds and everything else is normal and we're just losing it.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: Now, we are, we are of, of the same mind, our heads are on straight, for sure.
[UNKNOWN]: On Drawdy Wins, we'll see what happens with him going into Wembley, but he does have the dynamite diamond ring still in his possession.
[UNKNOWN]: Willow, she won a gauntlet match at Beach Break.
[UNKNOWN]: Eight woman gauntlet match not very good.
[UNKNOWN]: She won the opportunity to wrestle tackler here for the AW Women's World Championship.
[UNKNOWN]: The discussion that's Jesse and I had is the same discussion that we've had for many weeks now.
[UNKNOWN]: I think Jason and I kind of are in the same boat as well.
[UNKNOWN]: We don't think that Willow was injured and she got pulled from the tournament because they have wanted to find a way to take the TBS title off of her without actually having to beat her.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, that, yes, so that's not what I originally thought.
[UNKNOWN]: And then seeing the way things played out, I was like, it's kind of convenient the way it all worked out.
[UNKNOWN]: But then on the scrum, I don't know if you saw what she had to say about her injury on the post show.
[UNKNOWN]: No, I didn't watch the scrum.
[UNKNOWN]: So she spoke on the po-show about the injury.
[UNKNOWN]: Apparently it was an acesprane in her shoulder, which she's had in her other shoulder before.
[UNKNOWN]: And acespranes are such that you could be out for a few weeks or you could be out for nine months.
[UNKNOWN]: It's very, very like iffy.
[UNKNOWN]: It all depends on the severity of it and the individual.
[UNKNOWN]: So she was talking about it in great detail like there was an AC injury and you know they thought maybe she was going to be out longer than she was and she was able to recover and come back quicker.
[UNKNOWN]: So I will take her out her word that it was a legitimate injury and she was able to make it back earlier.
[UNKNOWN]: And if that's the case, then I stand by what I originally thought which is that she was going to win the Owen.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: And she was going to go to Wembley and she was going to wrestle probably Tecla and win the championship on that show.
[UNKNOWN]: because when this match was over, and Mercedes was there, Mercedes was up in her skybox and they were kind of staring each other down.
[UNKNOWN]: And I'm like, I'm looking in my live chat, and everyone's like, oh, why would you put the title on Willow just for her to be a transitional champion?
[UNKNOWN]: As I said here right now, I don't think she is gonna be a transitional champion.
[UNKNOWN]: Because I'm not, I'm not of the belief that she's gonna lose in London.
[UNKNOWN]: I am 50, 50.
[UNKNOWN]: I could see that you, I could see you being correct.
[UNKNOWN]: I just don't know why you bring Mercedes and have her win the own.
[UNKNOWN]: Like you mentioned, I think last week a week before that, have her win the own and then she won the own in the first time lost and then you're going to win again and lose again.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, but again, if, if Willow was hurt, this is what Tony felt like the plan B had to be.
[UNKNOWN]: Otherwise, she was never going to win the
[UNKNOWN]: Mercedes may still be out right now.
[UNKNOWN]: She may not have even come back.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: At least not as early as she did.
[UNKNOWN]: So again, going by what Willow said, if it was a legitimate injury, and she was never supposed to be bounced out of the tournament, she was probably going to win.
[UNKNOWN]: And Mercedes was not going to be in there in the first place, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Probably.
[UNKNOWN]: So they may arrive at the same exact place that they were going to get to anyway where they want to get the belt on Willow.
[UNKNOWN]: She got it a little early and now she'll be able to run with it.
[UNKNOWN]: The only thing about that is, again, you have a situation like that, Mercedes wins the O in two years in a row and loses two years in a row.
[UNKNOWN]: But that's kind of how I'm feeling, as I sit here right now.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, they could change my mind in five weeks depending on how things play out on TV, but I don't think it's a foregone conclusion at all that Mercedes is winning that belt.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, at least it casts someone predictability, which this product certainly needs.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't mind willow becoming the champion, I feel bad for Tecla and I feel the same way I did about MJFMJF carried the company on his back all year.
[UNKNOWN]: He should be the guy and ultimately deserves it more to walk in as champion, same thing with Tecla.
[UNKNOWN]: In the absence of Tony Storm and Mercedes, Tony tests her with leading the division.
[UNKNOWN]: She's become a better performer for it.
[UNKNOWN]: She's gotten to grow as champion and grow as a character on the show.
[UNKNOWN]: She's done a lot in their absence and I think she deserves to go into Wembley as champion.
[UNKNOWN]: Now,
[UNKNOWN]: I have no problem with Willow winning the championship and I'm a big fan of Willow.
[UNKNOWN]: The thing is Jason, I feel like this came off the same way if you remember Chris that landed winning the title from Tony Storm, very unceremonious, there was no story going into it.
[UNKNOWN]: Same thing with Willow here.
[UNKNOWN]: There's no story coming into it.
[UNKNOWN]: Really, she won a gauntlet match and got the match with Tackle.
[UNKNOWN]: There's no tension between Tackle and Willow Night and Gale.
[UNKNOWN]: She wins and then the fanfare for it was just very kind of blah.
[UNKNOWN]: It was just something that happened.
[UNKNOWN]: She puts the title on the backpacks.
[UNKNOWN]: She points to Mercedes in the skybox and then walks away with the title in her Jansport backpack with the conglomeration.
[UNKNOWN]: I just felt like it was the same thing.
[UNKNOWN]: Rinsa Repeat that they did to Statland.
[UNKNOWN]: So did it come off feeling ceremony.
[UNKNOWN]: As I saw a lot of people saying that they should actually man-evented if that was the ending that we were going to get.
[UNKNOWN]: And I don't really disagree with those people.
[UNKNOWN]: But to man-event this paper view.
[UNKNOWN]: I think a lot of people were kind of making a fuss about the women getting finally in
[UNKNOWN]: Which I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I don't know what they want that now, but no, look, you see the angle they shot right at the end of the show.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: That's what should have ended the show.
[UNKNOWN]: So the way I look at it is when you have a match, when you have a paper view that should close the show, you close the show with it.
[UNKNOWN]: And it didn't make any sense for this to close the show with it, given the angle they did at the very end, because the main story was the whole will
[UNKNOWN]: They ended the show the way they should have ended the show.
[UNKNOWN]: So I didn't see that opinion, but if that's what people were saying, then I disagree 100%.
[UNKNOWN]: Eventually, they will come a time where I'm sure there'll be a women's match that makes sense to close the show.
[UNKNOWN]: This was not it.
[UNKNOWN]: I was not a big fan of her winning with a freaking backslide.
[UNKNOWN]: I know she's won some other matches with a backslide.
[UNKNOWN]: That was also very anti-climactic to me, another fucking flash pin.
[UNKNOWN]: We have that in the TBS title match.
[UNKNOWN]: I felt like the Mercedes match with Willow at New Year's smash felt like a bigger deal.
[UNKNOWN]: When Willow beat her to win the TBS title, that just felt like a bigger deal to me than her winning the world title here.
[UNKNOWN]: So that was my issue with the way it came off.
[UNKNOWN]: It did not come off as major as it would have.
[UNKNOWN]: And if it was the injury that kind of fucked everything up, where as she would have won the belt at Wembley, then that's too bad because that would have been a bigger moment.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, they're just I just feel there was no story coming into it.
[UNKNOWN]: There was no fanfare that they made.
[UNKNOWN]: They highlighted on commentary like she's won the tag team championship.
[UNKNOWN]: She's won the TBS championship.
[UNKNOWN]: Now she's the women's champion.
[UNKNOWN]: The first woman in AWS to hold all three championships, I, I just feel like it deserves a little bit more and we didn't get that.
[UNKNOWN]: But this is what they typically do now.
[UNKNOWN]: We're looking at Willow and Mercedes.
[UNKNOWN]: So Tony is not doing M.J. F. and Osprey is not doing Techlet and Mercedes.
[UNKNOWN]: He's going to completely different directions.
[UNKNOWN]: He's going on Kenny and Osprey and he's going Mercedes
[UNKNOWN]: Mercedes and Willow was the right choice.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't, yeah, I don't disagree.
[UNKNOWN]: Like, you know, Techless done great work and she's kind of been a revelation this year in a W. The stronger match is even though they've wrestled before is Willow and Mercedes.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so I think that's the right choice as far as the women's title goes.
[UNKNOWN]: And then the main event, Kevin night and Kenny Omega, this ended the show on Sunday night, 25 minutes to be exact.
[UNKNOWN]: These two went in the main event, Kenny Omega, obviously one, there's nobody watching the show that thought Kevin night would win.
[UNKNOWN]: It was, uh, audibly, just in your face silent when Kevin night came out, not much of a reaction when he made his entrance, well, he had new music.
[UNKNOWN]: So was that why I was wondering what was different I think so I didn't recognize it first what what the music was and so Maybe people heard them music and felt the same way.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm pretty sure that was new music that he never came out to before
[UNKNOWN]: Well, this match once 25 minutes.
[UNKNOWN]: Again, we're not going to go over everything here just the ending.
[UNKNOWN]: Very good stuff here.
[UNKNOWN]: I think Kevin night is going to eventually be that guy that you can slot into the main event.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't really see the points because I know we all heard the reports from sap and coming off fifful select that M. J. F was a major driving creative force in this match taking place and he wanted the TNT champion of all people.
[UNKNOWN]: to battle the AEW champion at their show, which I mean, just in our left at this on Sunday, asking the age old question of why, why the TNT champion, we owe you all the sudden now in the mood to build up the TNT championship to a point where it's never been built up before.
[UNKNOWN]: Like, I don't really understand what that means.
[UNKNOWN]: Is M. J. F. Booking the show is an executive that we don't know about.
[UNKNOWN]: Like, I mean, what did you make of that report?
[UNKNOWN]: Did you read that report?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Like, I don't know what, I don't know what the logic was behind it because if the report is to be believed that had nothing to do with Kevin night, it was just now he wanted to see or suggested that the TNT champion, whoever that person may be, get that spot.
[UNKNOWN]: So I don't know why he suddenly has an affinity for the TNT championship, but, okay, I don't.
[UNKNOWN]: We've been down this road before, you know, we had this at all out last year.
[UNKNOWN]: It's not something that I would have done, but the moment they decided to go with a different main event, you know, if Ocada wasn't available, what did Tony do here?
[UNKNOWN]: He wanted to take somebody younger and somebody who's newer than that.
[UNKNOWN]: and put them in a position to go out there and have a big paper view made of it.
[UNKNOWN]: like I can understand if that's if that was the idea I can understand wanting to put a spot light on somebody new in that situation.
[UNKNOWN]: But again, you kind of took the wind out of the sales because you'll lost that like marquee main event on this show that I feel like the entire show was originally supposed to build around.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, let me let me ask.
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe I think differently.
[UNKNOWN]: I get what they're trying to do.
[UNKNOWN]: They did the same thing with kind of flesh, or less, you're going into all out with with on a page.
[UNKNOWN]: And he said the same thing to
[UNKNOWN]: I don't get it.
[UNKNOWN]: I think they just do things for the sake of doing it, and they really are finding themselves in a place where they necessarily, they had to have to build up new talent.
[UNKNOWN]: The thing we're Kevin Eid is, what is the point of building him up to be a man event guy if he's not going to be ready for another two or three years as a man event guy?
[UNKNOWN]: What does this match do that we haven't seen him do against MJA for Will Osprey or Swerv's wrestling?
[UNKNOWN]: What did this do?
[UNKNOWN]: It adds to his resume.
[UNKNOWN]: All right, but you're going to look back on this three years from now when he hopefully is a main event guy.
[UNKNOWN]: I think Tony hopes he's a main event guy a lot sooner than three years.
[UNKNOWN]: You say two or three years, it could be in the next 12 to 18 months.
[UNKNOWN]: I agree, like he's not ready for that spot right now.
[UNKNOWN]: You're talking two, three years from now.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think he's thinking two, three years from now.
[UNKNOWN]: I think he's thinking by like 20, 27 or sometime later next year.
[UNKNOWN]: perhaps he'll be ready to be elevated to that spot all right let me let me ask you this then after what flexors did with hangman and there was the same premise do you look at Kyle flexors remain event guy more so now this year than you did when he wrestled hangman last year I don't know no I mean not since the hangman mat I was in September yeah no I look at him pretty much in the same like on that same tier I would say that he was in previously
[UNKNOWN]: All right, but that was, but again, I think that was the mentality last year when he was in the cage match with Osprey and then when he put him in the main event with Hangman, it was like, Let's give him a chance to go out there and have, you know, these banger killer main event level matches and see how the fans respond and see how he responds to the pressure.
[UNKNOWN]: I think he passed the test.
[UNKNOWN]: It doesn't mean that he immediately gets vaulted into the main event picture.
[UNKNOWN]: He's basically in the same spot he was in the year ago.
[UNKNOWN]: I'll see how it all plays out, they definitely need to build some newer main event names.
[UNKNOWN]: At the end of this match, Kevin Knight lost, obviously one-winged angel, afterward's Claudio and the rest of the Death Rodgers pack our CAU to all came out in attack domain.
[UNKNOWN]: So they put in the boots to him, Osprey's out there.
[UNKNOWN]: He looked around for Moxley.
[UNKNOWN]: He tried to save Kenny Omega.
[UNKNOWN]: So they take Osprey away and you to told Osprey to look at him and he tried to distract him as Claudia went for a stop Osprey noticed and blocked him, cleared the ring of the death wires with each share.
[UNKNOWN]: To Moxley gets in there, it tries to talk to Osprey.
[UNKNOWN]: He gently reached over and he took the chair from Osprey trying to calm him down.
[UNKNOWN]: They went forehead to forehead, there was some tensions building here.
[UNKNOWN]: Moxley then pulls out a plastic bag and he tried to talk Osprey into using it suffocating Kenny Omega.
[UNKNOWN]: So he's thinking about it, he's thinking about it, he's thinking.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he was shaking.
[UNKNOWN]: And then he tore up the bag, he ripped the bag in half.
[UNKNOWN]: And then he turns and he throws the bag at moxley, moxley's angry, and they start fighting.
[UNKNOWN]: He throws a punch at that jump moxley.
[UNKNOWN]: So the death riders eventually are all this patch and they're taking care of.
[UNKNOWN]: And Kenny's just sitting in the ring.
[UNKNOWN]: So after the death rise left, Osprey picked up the AW title before offering it to Omega.
[UNKNOWN]: They shook hands.
[UNKNOWN]: Omega notices the plastic bag.
[UNKNOWN]: He looks around like what's going on here.
[UNKNOWN]: And Omega took the belt and Omega offered a handshake.
[UNKNOWN]: They shook hands.
[UNKNOWN]: They stood on the second rope to get it.
[UNKNOWN]: They salute the fans.
[UNKNOWN]: Omega comes up from behind.
[UNKNOWN]: Osprey is the show was about to end and he delivers a one-wind angel.
[UNKNOWN]: And he points to the plastic bag very angry.
[UNKNOWN]: The young bucks ran out and they tried to calm
[UNKNOWN]: I guess upset that Osprey lingered on the decision.
[UNKNOWN]: Do I suffocate him or do I not suffocate him?
[UNKNOWN]: What did you make of this ending Jason?
[UNKNOWN]: I thought it was a little overdone.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm just very happy that we have finally some real tension between these two.
[UNKNOWN]: It is ridiculous if you think about the fact that Omega was down the entire time and he didn't see any of this.
[UNKNOWN]: So when he finally got out, what did he see?
[UNKNOWN]: He saw the, he saw remnants of a plastic bag on the mat.
[UNKNOWN]: but he didn't I don't think he actually ever saw will ask for it with the bag was my point like why would he think I'll spray would do that and not moxley right so it's like if he didn't actually see it I'm pretty sure he didn't uh... it didn't really that that didn't pass the smell test that was uh... that was a bit much
[UNKNOWN]: But I like the idea, like what they were going for, I understand it.
[UNKNOWN]: And if it gets us to a place where now we have some real heat between these two, thank God.
[UNKNOWN]: Because I could stomach another two or three weeks of this, I respect you, I love you stuff.
[UNKNOWN]: Right, you had to find a way to eat it.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, we're gonna talk about this in a little bit.
[UNKNOWN]: Like there's a lot of similarities between what we're seeing with Cody and Punk.
[UNKNOWN]: And it's like they respect each other and their friends.
[UNKNOWN]: And so what was it?
[UNKNOWN]: It was the the the belt strap, you know, accidentally hitting Cody in the eye.
[UNKNOWN]: And that was what instigated everything that has now happened between them.
[UNKNOWN]: They got to come up with something.
[UNKNOWN]: At least here, it became clear why like the death rider stuff actually has led to something.
[UNKNOWN]: I said, John Moxley is going to end up playing a very important role in the eventual like split the rift between Omega and Osprey.
[UNKNOWN]: And we saw it.
[UNKNOWN]: Now I didn't expect, you know, Osprey to leave the Death Writers on this show.
[UNKNOWN]: I thought maybe they would save it for TV, instead they shot the angle here on the paper view.
[UNKNOWN]: But at least now we're finally moving on to whatever the next phase of this story is going to be.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I was a little confused as well.
[UNKNOWN]: Why didn't play this out on TV?
[UNKNOWN]: We talked a bit of this on Sunday when Jesse and I talked about it.
[UNKNOWN]: He brought up a good point.
[UNKNOWN]: He's like, I would rather see this stuff play out on TV because it gives me a cliffhanger going to in the next week's television.
[UNKNOWN]: All right.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
[UNKNOWN]: And also, we've talked about how so many times these post-paper view dynamites.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
[UNKNOWN]: There's dead.
[UNKNOWN]: And nothing happens.
[UNKNOWN]: And so here you have this major angle that you could have shot at the end of the show tomorrow night.
[UNKNOWN]: And like Jesse said, like leave it as a cliffhanger heading into your big arena Mexico show the following Wednesday.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, 100% what I think their mentality is and I know there's going to be a lot of new talent coming on in with these people that just became free agents.
[UNKNOWN]: I think Tony is doing the angles on the shows and he's going to save the big returns or the big debut for dynamite and try to create buzz.
[UNKNOWN]: Because I think there was a report going around that they really trying to put an emphasis on getting the rating up for obvious reasons.
[UNKNOWN]: So I think that's what the what the mentality is there.
[UNKNOWN]: I could be wrong, but I think he's going to save a lot of these debuts and incoming talents for for dynamite collision.
[UNKNOWN]: So that was the way things left off with Osprey and Omega Jason is correct.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm glad that there's at least some tension here.
[UNKNOWN]: Do we see Kenny Omega playing slightly of a heel character going into Wembley stadium is that what you're getting here as well?
[UNKNOWN]: We're no.
[UNKNOWN]: Um, I don't know if I'd call it heel.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean there may be more of an edge to him.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Some people were like, oh my god, don't make a win heel.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm like, no, he didn't.
[UNKNOWN]: No, maybe he'll know what is that.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I'm saying like, after what happened on Sunday, after he dropped him with the one-wing danger, I think Kenny looked over at the doctor and said, hey, come on in here and check on him.
[UNKNOWN]: you know like it wasn't it wasn't a heel turn it was just one of those things where he got very upset because he thought Osprey was going to suffocate him to death.
[UNKNOWN]: So he took great offense to this and I don't know if they're going to lean heavily one where the other as far as this guy's going to play heel or that guy's going to play heel.
[UNKNOWN]: There may be more of an attitude or more of an edge to Kenny.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if I would go so far as to say he'll be playing heal.
[UNKNOWN]: He may walk into Wembley in the fans may kind of choose Osprey over him.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, that may happen, right?
[UNKNOWN]: But I don't know if I would say he's going to be more of the heal in this.
[UNKNOWN]: It would be nice to get Kenny Omega with more of an edge.
[UNKNOWN]: Honestly, it kind of reminded me a little bit when he was standing there posing with the box.
[UNKNOWN]: over Osprey's body reminded me of Kenny when he was championed the first time.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: We'll see.
[UNKNOWN]: It's going to be a great match.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not completely invested yet.
[UNKNOWN]: And redemption didn't really do anything to get my, my excitement levels up for all in.
[UNKNOWN]: But they got television on Wednesday tomorrow night.
[UNKNOWN]: These shows are notoriously not good.
[UNKNOWN]: Hopefully they got a plan.
[UNKNOWN]: Hopefully they got a story line.
[UNKNOWN]: We get some tensions and some excitement going into Wembley Stadium.
[UNKNOWN]: uh... i haven't checked uh... let's see a w dynamite preview see what the google machine has to say uh... have they announced anything for the show uh... i don't see anything he again tonic on notoriously waits until the day off to announce everything which i i don't know why he does that he feels like there's more engagement to day off he may be in he may be writing the show the day off he may be writing i wouldn't be surprised if that's the case
[UNKNOWN]: No, there's nothing, I don't find anything here.
[UNKNOWN]: So we have nothing and else for dialogue tomorrow.
[UNKNOWN]: Keep an eye on it.
[UNKNOWN]: Busted open.
[UNKNOWN]: Speaking of AEW.
[UNKNOWN]: Then it will be no more AEW talk on busted open radio, WWE, I'm sorry, you wanted to settle?
[UNKNOWN]: I was just going to say what what what what great timing to that they time the launch of WWE radio the morning after an AEW pay per view.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yes, there was no discussion whatsoever about redemption.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm sure that I'm sure they lost copious amounts of sleep.
[UNKNOWN]: not covering redemption.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm sure they all gave quite the shit, right?
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think so.
[UNKNOWN]: On July 23rd, something happened that really should concern a lot of fans and a lot of wrestling content creators.
[UNKNOWN]: The unfiltered coverage of pro wrestling just took a turn and I honestly think it's for the worst.
[UNKNOWN]: The new channel will feature live play by play coverage of WWE premium live events starting with Summerslam, daily programming, and podcasts hosted by WWE Superstars, including Cody Rhodes, Stephanie McMahon, and the Undertaker.
[UNKNOWN]: This also includes Boston Open Radio five days a week.
[UNKNOWN]: Now what the press release was careful not to lead with is that the announcement is pro wrestling nation is gone.
[UNKNOWN]: Boston Open Radio, the longest running and most listen to professional wrestling show
[UNKNOWN]: And for two decades, Boston Open Radio represented something genuinely rare in pro wrestling media, a deadly platform accessible to millions of serious XM subscribers, but the conversation about pro wrestling could happen openly, critically and independently of the very companies being discussed.
[UNKNOWN]: Now, Dave LaGreca, he's been very vocal about where he started, built something from the ground up, and it became the gold standard for pro wrestling talk.
[UNKNOWN]: bully Ray Mark Henry, Tommy Dreamer, Nick Nammoth, and others were brought in to give credibility passion and an insider perspective to show that felt at its best, like an honest conversation between people who genuinely love the business.
[UNKNOWN]: Were they always critical?
[UNKNOWN]: No.
[UNKNOWN]: They were always right?
[UNKNOWN]: No.
[UNKNOWN]: But the important thing was that the platform existed outside the walls of WWE,
[UNKNOWN]: And the potential for honest coverage was always there, even if it was not always exercise Jason, and now that potential is gone because a lot of people are understanding of the fact that it's not going to be the same.
[UNKNOWN]: And Dave, he went on social media, and he went on YouTube, and I never seen the volatile environment of a comment section like these two comments sections on Twitter and on YouTube, where he said nothing was going to change.
[UNKNOWN]: And I don't know why he said that personally.
[UNKNOWN]: I have all the respect in the world for Dave, but him to go out there and say that nothing was going to change.
[UNKNOWN]: And then not cover anything, but WWE related products.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, that's a big, that's a big change.
[UNKNOWN]: So I'll let you start here.
[UNKNOWN]: I know we're both content creators in the space and we've both been doing this.
[UNKNOWN]: You've been doing this twice as long as I have and as long as anybody in the space.
[UNKNOWN]: What do you make of this?
[UNKNOWN]: And what does this mean for not only us as creators, how important it is for us for creators, but what does this mean for a pressing media?
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I mean, if you look at it from WWE's perspective, this is a win-win situation for them, because they get to take over this entire channel which was already established on, you know, serious XM and broadcast their content out 24 hours a day, seven days a week.
[UNKNOWN]: So there's nothing but, you know, positive vibes for them going forward for the busted open crew and the people who work there.
[UNKNOWN]: Or for serious, I can understand, you know, from serious as perspective, why they would want to do this, I don't think that this was a situation where Dave LaGreca was going to have a final voting power and what happened here.
[UNKNOWN]: So, for example, if he was against the idea, and I don't know, I haven't spoken to him, but let's just say hypothetically he was.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think serious XM would have been like, well, okay.
[UNKNOWN]: Dave doesn't want to do it so we're not going to do it like that's not how this works that's not that's not how any of this works, but obviously he's getting a lot of flack as you mentioned he made that comment in that video that you know nothing is changing it's going to be the same you know and I don't know why he said that bully Ray also was answering people on social media and he was kind of alluding to the same thing
[UNKNOWN]: You know it is going to change and you know that there are going to be certain lines that you cannot cross.
[UNKNOWN]: There's going to be certain things that you cannot talk about.
[UNKNOWN]: And so I don't know why they would have said anything in the first place.
[UNKNOWN]: I think that was stupid and they brought at least some of that on themselves for making that comment.
[UNKNOWN]: Obviously, I said that I don't know about you.
[UNKNOWN]: I've said this on my end.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't have a serious XM subscription.
[UNKNOWN]: I have read what other people have said who are regular listeners and many of them were very upset.
[UNKNOWN]: Many of them have said, I'm canceling my subscription.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, I've listened to busted open since they won and I'm not going to do it anymore if it's just going to be WWE sloped and they're not going to cover anything else and they're going to be, you know, afraid maybe to call out certain things, time will tell on that.
[UNKNOWN]: time will tell us as time goes on we'll know because when there's some really bad stuff that happens and I mean God knows Dave LaGreca his rants have gone viral sometimes I mean him and the bathrobe ranting about the rock, you know, rest of me in the last year.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean he was he was in Vegas he was basically telling everybody to fuck you literally telling the rock fuck you.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, yes, and I think he later on, I think the rock actually, he met the rock, yes, and the rock mentioned the bathroom or whatever.
[UNKNOWN]: So it's not like, and Dave seems like a very passionate, very opinionated guy.
[UNKNOWN]: And he'll continue to have his opinions.
[UNKNOWN]: The question is, as time goes on, will he be able to voice those opinions in the same way on his show?
[UNKNOWN]: And the answer is probably going to be no.
[UNKNOWN]: Or if he does, I could see where it's going to become an issue at some point.
[UNKNOWN]: And if it becomes an issue, then Dave LaGreca ain't going to be on busted open no more.
[UNKNOWN]: Because this is now Radio WWE.
[UNKNOWN]: This is WWE Radio.
[UNKNOWN]: They have attached their name to it.
[UNKNOWN]: It's theirs, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Whether they're licensing it out or whatever whatever the case may be.
[UNKNOWN]: and you're not going to get coverage of wrestling promotions that are not friendly or in business with WWE.
[UNKNOWN]: And that includes a W when we saw Thunder Rose and a Thunder Rose, she apparently hadn't really been on the show in a while or her appearances were very, we made one or two appearances of the last four months, I think.
[UNKNOWN]: okay so she wasn't on the show is frequently but still she she worked right for busted open she was the occasional host or co-host on busted open and they effectively let her go i mean that's basically what happened here and she posted a farewell message on social media she was i think part of the show for like four years
[UNKNOWN]: uh... your your partner on to the morning's air Jonathan coachman he had to show also and he was a presence on that channel and he was told recently that he would no longer be a part of it which kind of came out of nowhere and was a little curious and now of course it seems like we know why and that is what you would expect in a situation like this voices or people that
[UNKNOWN]: They do not like or that do not in some way kind of contributor or benefit them in some way are not going to be a part of this.
[UNKNOWN]: And they're not going to talk about CMLL.
[UNKNOWN]: They're not going to talk about AW.
[UNKNOWN]: Now that they talk CMLL much before probably not.
[UNKNOWN]: But that's off the table now.
[UNKNOWN]: And so you have people who were subscribed to bust it open, even if the AW discussion, any given week, was like 10% of the show, right?
[UNKNOWN]: They would still talk about it.
[UNKNOWN]: And I think what upsets people are two things.
[UNKNOWN]: Number one, them no longer being able to talk about it, even if just for 10 minutes, really rubbs people the wrong way.
[UNKNOWN]: And also, if this was WWE coming in with a brand new channel, serious was going to give them, like this is channel 156, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know what's on channel 157.
[UNKNOWN]: Let's say it's empty.
[UNKNOWN]: We're going to give WWE channel 157.
[UNKNOWN]: And that's going to be WWE radio.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think people would be nearly as upset.
[UNKNOWN]: No.
[UNKNOWN]: What upsets people is the fact that they had a pro wrestling channel.
[UNKNOWN]: that has been wiped out.
[UNKNOWN]: They have invaded the channel.
[UNKNOWN]: They have taken it over.
[UNKNOWN]: It is no longer a pro wrestling channel.
[UNKNOWN]: It is a WWE channel.
[UNKNOWN]: That's where a lot of people are upset.
[UNKNOWN]: And they have every right to be upset about that.
[UNKNOWN]: Some people are like, oh, well, I'll bet most of the people complaining, you know, we're even fans of the show.
[UNKNOWN]: Or they don't even listen to the show.
[UNKNOWN]: But you're completely missing the point, right?
[UNKNOWN]: There's a larger issue going on here, which is that when WWE takes something over
[UNKNOWN]: you're not gonna have the freedom to voice your opinions or talk about things in the way that you were doing before.
[UNKNOWN]: The benefit in it for people like you and me is that you may have some people who are like, all right, I'm gonna listen to this anymore.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm gonna go see where I can find wrestling discussions somewhere else.
[UNKNOWN]: And maybe we pick up some new fans because one thing that you and I don't have to worry about is that we're not afraid to speak our minds and say what's on our mind.
[UNKNOWN]: No, and I think that's actually worked out to be our benefit this week.
[UNKNOWN]: I saw a huge increase in subscribers and I know you just hit 93,000.
[UNKNOWN]: So I did.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I just passed 93,000 on our way to 93,100.
[UNKNOWN]: So they're going to be content creators who will benefit from this because it's going to chase some people away.
[UNKNOWN]: What I think WWE is banking on here.
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, because I truly don't think they give it shit.
[UNKNOWN]: They're banking on the fact that, okay, sure, maybe there are some people who were going to put their money where their mouth is and they're going to unsubscribe.
[UNKNOWN]: They're willing to bet that more people, who are like WWE only, or casual WWE fans, are going to replace them, and that there'll be more of those people than there were people who wanted to hear about a WWE.
[UNKNOWN]: And they're probably right, but the whole situation sucks because of what it means, right?
[UNKNOWN]: You cannot truly be independent on something called WWE Radio and give your honest, honest thoughts about the product.
[UNKNOWN]: At a time when the product is pretty damn bad.
[UNKNOWN]: So now what does that mean?
[UNKNOWN]: What does that mean?
[UNKNOWN]: People were sending that clip around him about Tommy Dreamer earlier when he was talking about the Dan Housing.
[UNKNOWN]: Tommy Dreamer.
[UNKNOWN]: Tommy Dreamer says he enjoyed the Dan Housing Joe Hendry segment and he called it very good.
[UNKNOWN]: And maybe he genuinely did.
[UNKNOWN]: And maybe that's why he's no longer working in TNA, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe so.
[UNKNOWN]: Or maybe he is just saying what he thinks he needs to say because this is now his gig.
[UNKNOWN]: And he works for busted open, air go.
[UNKNOWN]: So now you've got to be very careful with what you say, the segments, the things they cover, they're going to get access to all kinds of talent now and they may be in Minneapolis this weekend for SummerSlim and they could do on location shows.
[UNKNOWN]: Again, I understand all the perks and all the benefits of working for WWE radio, right?
[UNKNOWN]: That's incredible.
[UNKNOWN]: But it's also understandable why so many people would be upset and would be revolted by the entire thing because they don't want to just hear about WWE.
[UNKNOWN]: At a time when WWE isn't even all that great, they don't want to hear about 24 hours a day, seven days a week, how great WWE is.
[UNKNOWN]: That's why people are upset.
[UNKNOWN]: And they have every right to be.
[UNKNOWN]: And one more thing for the people who and I see, I'm sure Dave is getting all kinds of comments.
[UNKNOWN]: You sold out.
[UNKNOWN]: You sold out, trust it open, sold out.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
[UNKNOWN]: They literally sold out.
[UNKNOWN]: That's exactly what happened here.
[UNKNOWN]: If they, but they being the powers that be, they made that choice because they decided that it's better to be in bed with WWE than to be on the outside and not be in business with WWE.
[UNKNOWN]: They've been friendly with WWE now for years.
[UNKNOWN]: This just sort of consummated things and made things official.
[UNKNOWN]: This kind of put the official stamp on it, but let's not pretend it hasn't been that way for a while now.
[UNKNOWN]: No, it has been that way for a while, predominantly most of the content has been 90% WWE.
[UNKNOWN]: So they just made it official and just kind of pushed it over the line to get it to the 100%.
[UNKNOWN]: Listen, Dave has been with serious for over 20 years.
[UNKNOWN]: He's he's grandfathered in there.
[UNKNOWN]: He's not going anywhere.
[UNKNOWN]: He's got a few years left on his contract.
[UNKNOWN]: He did not make this decision.
[UNKNOWN]: Like you said, he did not make this decision.
[UNKNOWN]: They didn't come to Dave with, do you want to do it or not?
[UNKNOWN]: And then Dave had no choice in the matter.
[UNKNOWN]: He gave his opinion.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm sure he sits at the meetings.
[UNKNOWN]: He says what he has to say.
[UNKNOWN]: And then serious, suit and ties go and make the decision.
[UNKNOWN]: This was a serious decision.
[UNKNOWN]: It wasn't a day of decision.
[UNKNOWN]: I trust Dave with what he wants to do.
[UNKNOWN]: It's his baby.
[UNKNOWN]: He's not going to let it die.
[UNKNOWN]: He's not going to see it with her away.
[UNKNOWN]: He's going to do what he has to do for what's best for the show.
[UNKNOWN]: Now today I heard that he rented on the Joe Hendry and Denhaus and segmented apparently had a very spirited rent, which is great.
[UNKNOWN]: is that spirit and rents going to be the same way six months from now 12 months from now by Jason said no and I wholeheartedly agree with that when WWE gets what they want they let it be for a little bit until they can't control the narrative and then when they see it getting out of line now we're going to control this we're going to kind of filter what we don't want in here and take this out and take that out that can't be said this can't be said so
[UNKNOWN]: The whole community wide outrage is wanted because WWE usually fucks things up.
[UNKNOWN]: Now as far as Dave and the whole AEW discussion and they're not talking pro wrestling anymore.
[UNKNOWN]: Listen, I don't listen to everything busted open those.
[UNKNOWN]: I have a serious sex and I'm subscription with a dark horse and I just let her override and lapse and it's still there.
[UNKNOWN]: Like, I don't even use it.
[UNKNOWN]: It just kind of comes out of my debit card.
[UNKNOWN]: I have it predominately because when I want something to listen to that's not music, I just throw them on.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know how much other pro wrestling talk was being discussed there, but I would assume they weren't really talking much about CMLL, like you mentioned, or New Japan, or AEW.
[UNKNOWN]: So the outrage was a little comical to me, like, oh, they're not covering AEW anymore.
[UNKNOWN]: And I see people even today, they didn't cover redemption, dipshit, it's WWE radio.
[UNKNOWN]: Why would you expect them to cover AEW?
[UNKNOWN]: I don't even think these people Jason were even listening, the AW sickos that are complaining about this.
[UNKNOWN]: Won't even listen to busted open.
[UNKNOWN]: You may have to tell me that these people were listening to a 90% predominantly owned WWE discussion and waiting for the 5 or 10 minutes that they actually talked about the AW.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think they were even listening to begin with.
[UNKNOWN]: And if I was in Dave LaGreca shoes.
[UNKNOWN]: And I had to make a decision hindering on, well, do I go to a WWE radio or do I stay independent and really just kind of cater to the 10 minutes of AEW talk every Wednesday?
[UNKNOWN]: Like, what decision are you going to make if you're Dave Legrake?
[UNKNOWN]: You're going to go with WWE radio?
[UNKNOWN]: No, yes.
[UNKNOWN]: No, no, absolutely.
[UNKNOWN]: Look, I totally understand, and again, to the point that you just made, this was not like, this was a Dave Legrake decision.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, I don't buy that for a second.
[UNKNOWN]: So how much input he had into that, I don't know, but ultimately the decision was not his to make, because this is, this is a buff his pay grade.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, come on now, this is a big deal.
[UNKNOWN]: That serious made with WWE.
[UNKNOWN]: But if you were in his shoes and you were presented with the same offer, in most cases, most people would probably say yes to that anyway, they made a decision based on business here.
[UNKNOWN]: You say that the AW sickos are all upset.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think it's just the AW sickos that are upset.
[UNKNOWN]: Like they're just people that don't like the idea of WWE coming in and taking over things.
[UNKNOWN]: We just took time just talked about this last week, the AJ style story where he made that comment, oh, man, I hope WWE acquires a promotion in Japan.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm like, what the fuck of what a dumb, what a dumb thing to say, even though his intentions might have been pure when he said that.
[UNKNOWN]: But to me, that's just it sets a horrible precedent because then where does it end?
[UNKNOWN]: Right?
[UNKNOWN]: Where does it end?
[UNKNOWN]: If they're in acquisition mode and they're going around, they're taking this over, they're taking that over.
[UNKNOWN]: So it's this idea.
[UNKNOWN]: They're coming and they're taking an established station that was supposedly for pro wrestling and they have other shows on there.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, they have other hosts, you know, the bar is on there just in the bar.
[UNKNOWN]: And I'm sure that there was some discussion about wrestling other than WWE.
[UNKNOWN]: How much of it?
[UNKNOWN]: Can I put a percentage on it?
[UNKNOWN]: I can't.
[UNKNOWN]: But that's not even the point.
[UNKNOWN]: people were upset because they were, in some cases, maybe they were paying for a subscription, maybe they had it on the background.
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe they were waiting to see what they were, maybe they wanted Dave to roast redemption yesterday morning, right?
[UNKNOWN]: That's why I said, it's not just the sickos.
[UNKNOWN]: You talk about the sickos.
[UNKNOWN]: There may have been people listening to busted open because they wanted to hear them rant about a W or other wrestling products.
[UNKNOWN]: And now they don't have that anymore because they're not even allowed to mention it.
[UNKNOWN]: Everybody has their reasons why the subsets them.
[UNKNOWN]: Some people are just going to be upset for the sake of being upset.
[UNKNOWN]: But these are legitimate reasons.
[UNKNOWN]: What they have done here is they have co-opted the media.
[UNKNOWN]: In this case, the media being serious XM.
[UNKNOWN]: And so again, that benefits WWE and every conceivable way.
[UNKNOWN]: It's horrible for everybody else.
[UNKNOWN]: It's horrible for everybody else, and if you're a busted open fan, busted open the way it looks right now.
[UNKNOWN]: It's going to look very different as time goes on.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
[UNKNOWN]: The basis, the basis that are on the show are likely going to change over time as well.
[UNKNOWN]: Because you don't think WWE is not over time going to want to have some of their people in their hosting.
[UNKNOWN]: Busted open or hosting some of these shows, Corey Graves is not going to be hosting one of these fucking show.
[UNKNOWN]: I'll give you a break.
[UNKNOWN]: We all can see where this is headed.
[UNKNOWN]: this is the WWE property now the problem with davis though and the problem that existed with davis that he only had one direction to go if he didn't take the WWE radio deal where would bust it open lift would they go and start to know a whole new youtube channel
[UNKNOWN]: what how does Dave pay nicknames and mark Henry and bully Ray and Tommy Dreamer does does all those personalities come along with him.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think so.
[UNKNOWN]: Dave would basically have to start from ground zero again after building this up for the last 20 years.
[UNKNOWN]: And we know his journey.
[UNKNOWN]: It's a very admirable one.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, he built it from nothing.
[UNKNOWN]: He built it in 2007.
[UNKNOWN]: I have a similar story.
[UNKNOWN]: I got fired for my jewelry position.
[UNKNOWN]: I was
[UNKNOWN]: And I stayed and I stayed home and I started a YouTube channel playing call duty and I did the whole wrestling thing and I eventually switched over to predominantly all pro wrestling a lot of our stories kind of are similar in that so you're asking Dave who's 50 some odd years old to take his his baby busted open and go start a YouTube channel from ground zero.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm sure he would get 100,000 subscribers within the first two or three months, and he'd be monetized in two weeks.
[UNKNOWN]: That's not the point.
[UNKNOWN]: The point is, starting a YouTube channel in 2026 with where the algorithms are, is not the same when Jason and I started a YouTube channel all those years back.
[UNKNOWN]: It's not the same thing.
[UNKNOWN]: The engagements, the algorithms, different, the analytics, the different, everywhere you look at YouTube as a creator is different.
[UNKNOWN]: So Dave is going to be fighting behind the ape all before he even starts all over again.
[UNKNOWN]: So, when you talk about AEW content and always not talk about AEW content, I guarantee you if they looked at their business metrics and their numbers, the AEW segments did predominantly the lowest numbers of anything that they discussed seven days a week, and you and I feel that a hundred percent every single week and I can guarantee you everybody else she was the same way.
[UNKNOWN]: And if you don't think the numbers are down,
[UNKNOWN]: When we talk at EW because the product sucks and you're blaming us, it's the other way.
[UNKNOWN]: It's definitely that way.
[UNKNOWN]: The product is not where it needs to be because I can go back in my catalog and I can show you reviews that Jessie and I did for double or nothing in 2021 and I'm looking at 90 to 100,000 views on my videos on my live streams.
[UNKNOWN]: You know what?
[UNKNOWN]: You know what my redemption review did on Sunday?
[UNKNOWN]: Barely did 29,000.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, you look at an EW paper view four or five years ago.
[UNKNOWN]: It's doing three times that number.
[UNKNOWN]: Is it me?
[UNKNOWN]: Or is it the a w product so I'm sure David Greck is probably looking at that the same way in thinking why am I going to talk and cater to the 10% of a W people want me to talk about redemption and all a w when it really doesn't bring in anything and the the serious accent people probably looking at it like all right It's the lowest rated segment fucking got it
[UNKNOWN]: you know what I mean yeah yeah all I'm sure that's exactly what they were looking at but again you have to also understand why some people are upset forget a w for a second like they're they're upset that or concerned that the coverage of w w is going to change as well because it is a w w station like like you said it will 100% will
[UNKNOWN]: right and so that but so it's not just oh my god they're not going to cover these other promotions which again they weren't covering that much to begin with that that that that sucks but it's more like oh so when we have a really awful segment on raw like you mentioned the Dave went on a little rant I guess about the Dan housing thing earlier great but the concern is that when you have more segments like that
[UNKNOWN]: if he continues to rant about them and talk about how terrible they are and you know, is screaming like a banshee.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, how long is WWE gonna tolerate that for and want that on their channel, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Probably not for very long.
[UNKNOWN]: So it compromises and their eyes, it potentially compromises now.
[UNKNOWN]: The integrity for lack of a better word of
[UNKNOWN]: honest opinion about a product that isn't very good, yes, and what you want, you want to have people who are not going to be afraid to go on their show whether it's on YouTube, whether it's on serious and say, hey, this was a great show tonight, or if it wasn't, holy shit, this show absolutely sucked.
[UNKNOWN]: This show was a raging just dumpster fire.
[UNKNOWN]: And here's why, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Cause it's not enough to just say, oh, this sucked, right?
[UNKNOWN]: You want, you want analysis, you want discussion.
[UNKNOWN]: You want people to tell you, well, here's why it sucked.
[UNKNOWN]: Here's why this didn't make any sense.
[UNKNOWN]: Or here's what I would have done differently, right?
[UNKNOWN]: And that's honest discussion.
[UNKNOWN]: You don't have to agree.
[UNKNOWN]: There were people who loved the Danhausen segment last night.
[UNKNOWN]: Not a lot of Dan's, but do.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, forget him for a second, but like there were people who were like, oh, you know, people you just have to have fun what why is it have to take everything so seriously I'm like All I'm saying is like objectively this was bad television
[UNKNOWN]: And some people, they just, you know, no, no, no, no, this was great.
[UNKNOWN]: This was great.
[UNKNOWN]: This was just, this was wildly entertaining.
[UNKNOWN]: Fine.
[UNKNOWN]: But there were a lot of people who felt otherwise, right?
[UNKNOWN]: You want to know that you have the freedom to go on there and address your audience and be honest with them.
[UNKNOWN]: And the worst thing you could do is put your audience in a position where now they feel like you're being fake, right?
[UNKNOWN]: And there's nothing fake about someone like Dave LaGracca, right?
[UNKNOWN]: He he where he seems like someone who wears his heart on his sleeve and speaks from the heart and speaks his mind.
[UNKNOWN]: But now this entire thing is compromised now.
[UNKNOWN]: And that's why people are saying, well, I'm going to have to get my wrestling, you know, discussion and analysis from somebody else.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't want to hear Mark Henry and Billy Ray, you know, glazing a 95% of Monday night raw every week, which honestly doesn't sound like great radio to begin with.
[UNKNOWN]: No, totally understand it.
[UNKNOWN]: That is very valid criticism and that's the way it's going to be now.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't care.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't care what anybody sell.
[UNKNOWN]: It's not going to change.
[UNKNOWN]: It's going to be the same.
[UNKNOWN]: No, it's not.
[UNKNOWN]: And they don't believe that.
[UNKNOWN]: They can say that, but they don't believe that because they know that's not true.
[UNKNOWN]: That's that's obviously a great reason to be upset and if I'm a fan of bus that open and a subscriber to serious, I would be concerned too for what I'm now going to consume on a weekly basis.
[UNKNOWN]: You don't want it to change.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, the one positive to come out of this.
[UNKNOWN]: is I like the sports radio aspect of it, the commentary for the PLEs, if you're someone that works the late shift and can't be home to watch these shows or you're working the day and you can't watch these international shows, they're going to be giving you live feed commentary with the big shows of and Booker T. And there's an old school aspect to that that I very much enjoy because I remember just laying in bed in my mom's house and me and my brother shared a bedroom.
[UNKNOWN]: At least the turn on WFAN and listen to Gary Cohen and Bob Murphy
[UNKNOWN]: So I liked that aspect, and I was kind of ashamed to admit that it took me a while before I realized that Don LaGreca, I don't know why I didn't put that together I saw a rant from him last year, and I'm like, I saw it.
[UNKNOWN]: I said the same thing you said on the uncrowded and I'm like, is he related to Dave?
[UNKNOWN]: I just I don't know why I never put the two together, but like again, Donna Greca has been a voice on sports dog radio in New York now for years and years, you know, he goes out his own rants and stuff, and it was not that long ago that I realized holy shit, I think Dave is his brother and sure enough, their brothers.
[UNKNOWN]: But Dave's been doing this for a long time.
[UNKNOWN]: The the busted open show, I mean, it started in in 2009.
[UNKNOWN]: So if it's a long time ago, he's all far too.
[UNKNOWN]: We've been doing these shows for a long time.
[UNKNOWN]: I started the freaking sound off in 2007.
[UNKNOWN]: So he was able to get his foot in the door and get it on serious, which was a huge deal.
[UNKNOWN]: And what he has built over all this time is very impressive.
[UNKNOWN]: And I'm sure, again, without knowing him or talking to him, wherever his head is at, on everything that's happened over the last several days,
[UNKNOWN]: It's got to be killing him, you know, to get all the hate that I'm sure he's getting and to get shit on for this and everyone's putting this on him because, you know, look, a decision was made.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm sure he knew exactly what kind of blowback he was going to get.
[UNKNOWN]: But also on some level, he's got to be thinking, okay, what what?
[UNKNOWN]: Can I say what in my not supposed to be saying well, I'm a bit bully Ray had a bully Ray had a smile Plash done on his face that you couldn't scrape off.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh my god I saw that so they part yet so they posted that video the interview that he did with Seth Rollins
[UNKNOWN]: Dude, I've never seen bully smile that much in my life.
[UNKNOWN]: Now, never.
[UNKNOWN]: Now, it looked like something out of a horror movie, like they had that horror movie smile that came out not that long ago.
[UNKNOWN]: He, you couldn't surgically remove the smile from his face.
[UNKNOWN]: And he was asking him, so, you know, what do you prefer the night one main event or the night two main event?
[UNKNOWN]: And can big cheesy smile on his face?
[UNKNOWN]: Like, he, he knows what he has to do.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he knows where his bread is buttered and, you know, I mean, that's not really that's not really an out of a question that you want to have people listen to like what type of question is that?
[UNKNOWN]: Of course, you're going to say night two.
[UNKNOWN]: Wow.
[UNKNOWN]: But that this is what people were greeted by when they were listening to the show.
[UNKNOWN]: So this is the trigger right you have access to you have.
[UNKNOWN]: Look Seth Rollins is in the main event of summer's level.
[UNKNOWN]: Triple H is on there tomorrow 11 30 a.m.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, that should be something, it's what we do.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: So that's the trade up.
[UNKNOWN]: So that's the trade up you make.
[UNKNOWN]: You get access to all these big names.
[UNKNOWN]: You bring in maybe a whole new audience.
[UNKNOWN]: If you do, it's gonna be a very different audience.
[UNKNOWN]: It's gonna be a very different type of show.
[UNKNOWN]: You know what?
[UNKNOWN]: The people who don't like it, who listen to busted open before.
[UNKNOWN]: they don't have to listen to it anymore.
[UNKNOWN]: You got plenty of other options.
[UNKNOWN]: If you want to look somewhere else and if you're worried that maybe you're not going to get the same kind of like rants or the same kinds of debates that you would have gotten before, you know, we'll see give it time and we'll see how it plays out.
[UNKNOWN]: But like
[UNKNOWN]: These people need to know that there are lots of other independent voices who are out there on YouTube and maybe in other platforms as well.
[UNKNOWN]: There are other places to go if you are concerned about this for your wrestling opinion, whether it's here, whether it's somewhere else.
[UNKNOWN]: I still feel like you get you know the best debate here.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't even think that's is that even debatable at this point I'm now I'm gonna pat ourselves in the back.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean What what Jason does individually and what I do?
[UNKNOWN]: I mean we're two different creators with two different visions But we all come to the same place.
[UNKNOWN]: We're never gonna fucking stay you guys wrong ever.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we're never gonna be honest with you
[UNKNOWN]: And we're very proud of that, but it also, honestly, it makes me appreciate more, you know, what we're able to do here, where, you know, when I get ready to sit down and do a show, whether it's live or, we're like, the sound off every Sunday.
[UNKNOWN]: I never, I never sit here and worry like, oh, like, what is it safe for me to say that?
[UNKNOWN]: Or, oh, I can't talk about that.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think you know, I don't think you know how to be anything else.
[UNKNOWN]: This is a great thing.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, there's a freedom to just like not giving a shit.
[UNKNOWN]: And like, okay, I feel this way about this and so I'm gonna talk about it.
[UNKNOWN]: And when I'm done,
[UNKNOWN]: If it's live, it's out there and if it's not, all right, I added everything together, I upload it, and there it is.
[UNKNOWN]: And the one thing you never have to worry about is that like what we're saying and what we're talking about is fake or it's not our real opinion because we sit around here, we watch way too much wrestling to sugar coated and be anything other than honest about what it is that we're watching because we just see so much of it,
[UNKNOWN]: It's just second nature, you feel this way or you feel that way, and that's it.
[UNKNOWN]: And you know exactly what you're going to get.
[UNKNOWN]: And that's the best part about being independent and not having to worry about answering to somebody else.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm very grateful for that.
[UNKNOWN]: It's not lost on me.
[UNKNOWN]: And I'm just saying that you got plenty of options out there if that's not a place where you want to get your wrestling discussion from anymore.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, who knows what WWE is going to do and who else they're going to bring on to WWE radio.
[UNKNOWN]: Clearly, they want to control the narrative and kind of steer the criticism to being more positive than it is negative and what Jason said is correct.
[UNKNOWN]: I said as much on my video that I uploaded last week, the the whole atmosphere in the IWC with genuine criticism is it's shrinking day by day week by week.
[UNKNOWN]: There's not many of us left.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, I think a lot of people in the community tend to be fake, where I think where you can come here and you get two guys who legitimately, if you met Jason and I at a bar having drinks, this is the same way we would be sitting with you guys talking wrestling at a real life bar.
[UNKNOWN]: I feel like that's the great way and the best thing about what we do.
[UNKNOWN]: A lot of these reactors they they fake for engagement.
[UNKNOWN]: A lot of these people go out there and just do and say things just to get a reaction.
[UNKNOWN]: There's a lot of creators in this space that really want to carve out a name for themselves yet.
[UNKNOWN]: There's no creativity.
[UNKNOWN]: There's no...
[UNKNOWN]: Real genuine is to them.
[UNKNOWN]: They just follow what everything else or what everybody else is doing.
[UNKNOWN]: That's kind of in now and popular.
[UNKNOWN]: It's not the way to be.
[UNKNOWN]: And I feel like if you want to be a content creator in this space now, you got to really kind of identify who you are, what the what type of content you want to make and kind of make yourself stand out, which is very difficult to do.
[UNKNOWN]: Which I think Jason and I have.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, we've we've gotten in there as far as getting to the YouTube content creation space.
[UNKNOWN]: We got in there just in time now.
[UNKNOWN]: It's difficult as fuck.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I won't even recommend people do it.
[UNKNOWN]: You can do it and just do it because you love doing it, but if you're looking to grow immediately like everybody has that mindset, I'm going to grow and I want to 5,000 subscribers and I'm going to get monetized, man, it is tough out here.
[UNKNOWN]: So, you know, you mentioned the algorithm before.
[UNKNOWN]: It's interesting.
[UNKNOWN]: It made me think of if you remember probably six, seven years ago, early in the agreement when they were doing the Saudi shows.
[UNKNOWN]: And they started doing like the international stuff.
[UNKNOWN]: They had like super showdown in Australia.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, I used to call the early Saudi show, sweet Saudi money, sweet Saudi money ones, sweet Saudi money too.
[UNKNOWN]: And I remember doing those reviews and do those those videos, those reviews.
[UNKNOWN]: We're we're doing like I'm not even joking like 200,000, 300,000 views.
[UNKNOWN]: And then one day,
[UNKNOWN]: literally like overnight it was cut in half.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
[UNKNOWN]: And I was like, okay, like, I was looking at myself.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm like, did I do something wrong here?
[UNKNOWN]: I'm like, no, that's, that's a little too coincident.
[UNKNOWN]: No.
[UNKNOWN]: And then I saw other people complaining about it as well.
[UNKNOWN]: So like, there was one simple change to the algorithm.
[UNKNOWN]: And I don't know why it had such a disproportionate effect on wrestling content, but it was like, noticeable across the board.
[UNKNOWN]: And so when you are on YouTube, one of the, one of the downsides of the drawbacks to it is that you're basically a slave to the algorithm and at any given moment like the algorithm give it the algorithm can take it away and so to your point if you're new to this and you don't have a built an audience.
[UNKNOWN]: It's tough because if things change and you're in the process of trying to grow all of a sudden it kind of knocks you back down to the bottom of the ladder and it can be very demoralizing.
[UNKNOWN]: So you really have to like want to do this and put the timing and you know the be efforts and have to have a passion for it.
[UNKNOWN]: because otherwise it'll it'll beat you down that is incredibly demoralizing.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, I know a lot of people who concerned about WWE radio and the fact that honest criticism, genuine criticism, maybe dead now would bust that open.
[UNKNOWN]: We'll see how that transpires, but the other thing is,
[UNKNOWN]: And this came from Tony Khan himself on the media scrum, and I ask you Jason, because I think personally, I told you in the sound check, I think this is just a fucking terrible move for pro wrestling.
[UNKNOWN]: Kind of putting all of this toxic positivity in one bubble and the other side's going to do the same thing.
[UNKNOWN]: He's already talking about in the wheels' remotion for an AEW radio podcast network.
[UNKNOWN]: Now, I don't know what that means in my honest opinion.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to be up front.
[UNKNOWN]: We are fight fight full and Dave Melto already exists the AW radio network.
[UNKNOWN]: Is it is it call the AW radio or just AW podcast network?
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know what I don't know what is going to call it, but AW podcast whatever radio network podcast network is he's he's coming up with a place a destination for all like podcasting and radio and creators to go and talk at you.
[UNKNOWN]: Is this a good move for pro wrestling?
[UNKNOWN]: Is this a good move for Tony Kanton now?
[UNKNOWN]: Do what WWE is doing and including busted open with him doing that with God knew so over there because what I look at it as is you're just taking everybody putting them on the one umbrella and hiding away from the criticism Do you genuinely think there's going to be any genuine criticism for the idea the product if he has something like that created?
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, I, I would hope not because if there is, then that's terrible, you know, that's what people are, that's what people are worried about right it's this kind of stifling of of opinions and if you don't like what's being said like they could get ready or silence you or whatever so I don't know all the details about like who's going to be involved in this like is this just an AW thing where they're going to have their own like
[UNKNOWN]: sort of internal, maybe wrestler hosted podcast where they talking about bringing in independent shows to me.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: He that the details were very scarce, but what what I know personally is the all readwards and we'll Washington show the unrestricted show got canned because the the views were low and Tony didn't really like the numbers that they were pulling.
[UNKNOWN]: RJ city apparently said something on social media this past week and about him in Tony Shivani doing the podcast to six a.m. in Duluth, I don't know if there was any validity to what he was joking around there with, but apparently he's going to have his own show.
[UNKNOWN]: They they also can't.
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, his show on YouTube.
[UNKNOWN]: So I don't know, I think they're going to be moving a lot of that stuff over to a podcast network or or some sort of network for them.
[UNKNOWN]: It's going to be a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I guess the first thing we've been hearing of like what the details are about this, but like if that, if it was going to be a situation where they were going to have a network of shows bringing existing shows and then not let them talk about some stuff that they're currently talking about.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, of course, that would be terrible.
[UNKNOWN]: are we sure that that's what this is based on what you're describing to me it sounds like they're coming up with some like new shows with a w personalities which I mean I don't know if I would let necessarily listen to that but if that's what they're going to do I mean that's fine but that's very different than if they're going to be on a serious and takeover and existing station and then kick people off and say you can't talk about you can't talk about XYZ.
[UNKNOWN]: So that would be awful, but I don't know if that's what this is.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, we don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, Tony didn't really go into detail.
[UNKNOWN]: He just said that wheels were right.
[UNKNOWN]: So let's see.
[UNKNOWN]: Look, if that's what it turns out to be and they're going to bring in outside shows and there's things they can't talk about then obviously.
[UNKNOWN]: That's terrible.
[UNKNOWN]: But I don't know what the plans are here.
[UNKNOWN]: This is the podcast network of AEW podcast shows.
[UNKNOWN]: Then, okay, WWE has that already with fanatics.
[UNKNOWN]: and the fanatics podcasts and that's fine right they have Cody and undertaker and Stephanie if it's something like that then who gives a shit.
[UNKNOWN]: So let's let's wait and see I guess what the what the details are and what this looks like.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's the discussion there.
[UNKNOWN]: I guess we'll give Dave the benefit of the doubt for now.
[UNKNOWN]: Apparently his rant on Dan House and in Joe Henry was a very spirited one like I mentioned, how long that keeps up.
[UNKNOWN]: We'll see.
[UNKNOWN]: Like Jason said, I don't think it's going to be long for this world.
[UNKNOWN]: And I think after six months, two a year, maybe less than that.
[UNKNOWN]: I feel like things will really change for Boston open.
[UNKNOWN]: And then they really just kind of settle into the WWE ecosystem.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: And you looked no further than Andre's hail.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, if you want to just use an example, you know, where they have this business relationship, which is what it is.
[UNKNOWN]: They're getting paid billions of dollars by ESPN.
[UNKNOWN]: And you have this writer who no longer works for ESPN, but when he did, he reviewed that one, what, what, WrestlePolusa.
[UNKNOWN]: He reviewed WrestlePolusa last year.
[UNKNOWN]: Give it a C grade as a C or C minus.
[UNKNOWN]: I think it was a C. Give it a C grade.
[UNKNOWN]: And it turned into,
[UNKNOWN]: online.
[UNKNOWN]: And then he didn't if you'll notice he wasn't giving out letter grades any more after that.
[UNKNOWN]: And then of course I went into the whole JBL thing when JBL chimed in on that and it's just beyond the idiotic comment that he made about, well even if you don't believe that it was an A show, you should give it an A letter grade because
[UNKNOWN]: This is your business partner now, all right.
[UNKNOWN]: That's the mentality.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: That's that's the heart of what we're talking about here.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: And that's how they think.
[UNKNOWN]: I know JB L's not officially associated with them anymore, but he has what I call WWE brain.
[UNKNOWN]: And it's like they all share one brain.
[UNKNOWN]: He worked there for so long.
[UNKNOWN]: That's the mentality.
[UNKNOWN]: You don't think there aren't other people there who think the exact same way, hey, what?
[UNKNOWN]: We have this guy.
[UNKNOWN]: He's being a little too honest.
[UNKNOWN]: We have this brand new paper view that Mark Shapiro loves so much.
[UNKNOWN]: And he just gave it a C grade.
[UNKNOWN]: We can't have that.
[UNKNOWN]: That's what people are worried about.
[UNKNOWN]: Good old JBL.
[UNKNOWN]: He learns everything from the Vince McMahon learning tree.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, he says hero.
[UNKNOWN]: And he's on AAA show.
[UNKNOWN]: He's still affiliated with him in some ways.
[UNKNOWN]: He's his role model.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, that's absolutely.
[UNKNOWN]: So that's the Boston Open talk.
[UNKNOWN]: We'll monitor that.
[UNKNOWN]: But again, at the end of the day, good luck to Dave.
[UNKNOWN]: We wish him nothing but the best.
[UNKNOWN]: I've had a couple conversations with him.
[UNKNOWN]: He's always been very respectful and very kind to me.
[UNKNOWN]: And I hope he kills him.
[UNKNOWN]: All right, I really hope he sticks to his guns.
[UNKNOWN]: And I hope nobody touches his baby.
[UNKNOWN]: And he just lets it be the way that it needs to be.
[UNKNOWN]: That's what I owe.
[UNKNOWN]: He seems like he seems like he seems like a wrestling fan.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Again, you've spoken to him I have and he seems like a good dude and for him to have built what he did over a period of time like this, I will tell you it is not an easy thing to do.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: It is to be respected and I'm sure that there was a lot that went into this decision.
[UNKNOWN]: Here we are and now it's a brave new world now.
[UNKNOWN]: It is a WWE world.
[UNKNOWN]: We'll see what I said is we're just living in it.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah
[UNKNOWN]: summer slam.
[UNKNOWN]: We got a big show coming up this weekend, man.
[UNKNOWN]: It just gets better.
[UNKNOWN]: It gets better and better here.
[UNKNOWN]: We haven't even talked about summer slam.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, well, we'll breeze through this.
[UNKNOWN]: We got two mat to two nights.
[UNKNOWN]: We have 12 matches in total.
[UNKNOWN]: And we're going to go over them in just a second.
[UNKNOWN]: We'll weave some Monday, not raw discussion into this.
[UNKNOWN]: And then we'll get to your super chats.
[UNKNOWN]: But I want to thank you guys.
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, as far as super charged you guys are killing it so far.
[UNKNOWN]: Keep that energy up.
[UNKNOWN]: I love it.
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you to the big bombs that we got from Brandon and we got one from Havili.
[UNKNOWN]: We got 866 likes.
[UNKNOWN]: I'd love to see a thousand.
[UNKNOWN]: We got 3,000 people in here.
[UNKNOWN]: There's no, there's no excuse.
[UNKNOWN]: A thousand likes is a minimum.
[UNKNOWN]: Come on guys.
[UNKNOWN]: A thousand likes and I feel like we're gonna eventually hit over 3,000 with what we're getting through now.
[UNKNOWN]: Summerslam.
[UNKNOWN]: We'll start with night one here and like I said, well, we've some Monday night road discussion in here.
[UNKNOWN]: We'll start with night one live Morgan.
[UNKNOWN]: She will be defending the women's world championship against E.O.
[UNKNOWN]: Sky, E.O.
[UNKNOWN]: won the Queen of the Ring and Saudi Arabia and not of champions.
[UNKNOWN]: Live Morgan has not had one title defense of her championship.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know Jason, you're more of an analytics guy than I am.
[UNKNOWN]: Has she broken Jake Cargill's record of not defending the title?
[UNKNOWN]: I believe she has she just has one hundred days without a single title defense and winning the championship at WrestleMania.
[UNKNOWN]: Live Morgan has been more of a cheerleader and a valet to the judgment there than she has been a champion and eo I feel like has just kind of been in this holding pattern because WWE doesn't know what the women Should be doing or how to book the women the money not roll women's division is in other shambles right now smack down is a little bit better, but not by much
[UNKNOWN]: I'll start there, Jason, what is going on with this women's division because I think as of right now, the only women I can think of off the top of my head that have anything to do with this show, or the two we saw last night with Raquel and Soul, Roxanne, Liv and Eo, Becky's out, AJ Lee is out, Stephanie Vicarre's out with injury, Lyra Valkyria hasn't shown face on television since she beat Bailey at Madison Square Garden, that Saturday night's main event, and I don't really know who else exists on that roster.
[UNKNOWN]: What the fuck are we doing over there?
[UNKNOWN]: I've been asking myself that question now for a while, and that goes, especially raw, but that really goes for both shows.
[UNKNOWN]: So it's weird because if you remember months ago, we were talking about the lack of depth and just how just terrible things were with the SmackDown Women's Division, and then it sort of flipped coming out of WrestleMania.
[UNKNOWN]: The problem is that the SmackDown side isn't all that much stronger, but Raw has just fallen off a cliff in terms of the women's division.
[UNKNOWN]: So you have your world champion who never defends her title because they didn't have a plan B, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Stephanie needed time off.
[UNKNOWN]: She made that.
[UNKNOWN]: If you watch on real, like she made that comment where she's been going hard for 10 years and she's very beat up.
[UNKNOWN]: So I don't know if it was like one specific injury per se, but that probably has a lot to do with why we haven't seen her.
[UNKNOWN]: But they had no plan B, you know, for Liv Morgan and Rear Ripley, she got traded from Raw to Smackdown, which she was like the big star in that division.
[UNKNOWN]: So it's just generally terrible.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, again, they're going to have triple H. She said on busted open tomorrow.
[UNKNOWN]: Love it 30 A.M. Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: These are the kinds of questions that I would love for them to ask.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, as far as like, the women's division on bullshows, the tag team division on bullshows.
[UNKNOWN]: This is all at his feet.
[UNKNOWN]: There's a respectful way to ask the question, but it's a valid question.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not expecting these questions to be asked the question.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm just saying, these are, these are valid questions that I would love to know, like, where his head is at, because everything is just so flat right now.
[UNKNOWN]: So for example, if EOS guy wins the championship, I'm picking EO by the way.
[UNKNOWN]: I would like to see her win.
[UNKNOWN]: I think she's going to win, but let's say she wins.
[UNKNOWN]: Do you honestly think things are going to be any different coming out of summer slime as far as the title and the division?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't have any.
[UNKNOWN]: EEO was the champion Lesha, wasn't she?
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, yes.
[UNKNOWN]: What does he do with her?
[UNKNOWN]: Nothing.
[UNKNOWN]: It was a very similar situation.
[UNKNOWN]: So I worry about that.
[UNKNOWN]: All we can focus on is the here and now I'm going with the O to win the title here.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going with EO to win the championship, too.
[UNKNOWN]: I just got this thing in the back of my mind that I think WWE is hopeful that rear Ripley comes back by crown jewel, and I think Triple H really wants to get real Ripley and EO in a crown jewel match.
[UNKNOWN]: uh... wherever the music and as everybody in the chat is accurately pointing out she's still cursed by dad housing she is the curse has not been listed uh... and just a uh... i seen i seen some people claiming that uh... will jedi lyra was on the show you just didn't see it was in the commercial why the fuck is it in the commercial no no lira was on the show last night but they they like during the uh... got what matches it was the uh... it was the uh... the rekelle match uh... believe they cut to show her watching it backstage
[UNKNOWN]: I must have gotten up and made myself something drink that I didn't see it yet.
[UNKNOWN]: So again, she was barely on the show, but she was, she was there.
[UNKNOWN]: They were teasing like she's got a rise on the IC title.
[UNKNOWN]: So she was technically there.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
[UNKNOWN]: As far as Rakel and Solruka last night, we'll just briefly mention this.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't mind Rakel winning the title.
[UNKNOWN]: I think she's earned it.
[UNKNOWN]: I think she's done some really good work being in the judgment day.
[UNKNOWN]: She's a lot better than she was before she joined the judgment day.
[UNKNOWN]: My problem is, and I put this out in the tweet last night.
[UNKNOWN]: What did Soul Rooka do for the Intercontinental Championship?
[UNKNOWN]: And what did the Intercontinental Championship do for Soul Rooka?
[UNKNOWN]: My problem Jason is WWE has this nasty habit of calling someone up like a Soul Rooka and feeling that they need to put a championship belt on them to validate them in front of the main roster audience.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know why that would be the case with Soul Ruka when I feel like her talent really kind of superseded that and she was already kind of on her way to being very popular and very over.
[UNKNOWN]: She's done nothing with it.
[UNKNOWN]: Now she's a failed-in-checontinental champion when only two title defenses on to her, on to her belt.
[UNKNOWN]: And what did it exactly accomplish?
[UNKNOWN]: I feel like WWE just wasted everybody's time with this.
[UNKNOWN]: How'd you feel about the title change?
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I didn't really have too much of an issue with the title change.
[UNKNOWN]: Rick Hell.
[UNKNOWN]: I think Rick Hell's been doing good work.
[UNKNOWN]: I look back at Saul's reign and I don't really think she gained anything from it.
[UNKNOWN]: I think Becky wanted to help put her over and she did and then Becky went away and then WWE after Becky went away proceeded to do absolutely nothing was so ruka.
[UNKNOWN]: She defended the title once against Lyra, she defended it once against Raquel, this was her second match with Raquel and they took it off her and as we look back at the last two months, did it really elevate soul by putting the belt on her?
[UNKNOWN]: We sometimes have this discussion where
[UNKNOWN]: Is it that the title makes the wrestler or does the wrestler make the title the wrestler made the title the wrestler makes the title but in this case the wrestler didn't really do anything to make the title and the title didn't really do anything to make the wrestler.
[UNKNOWN]: So to me she's in the exact same spot she was in before she before she wanted from Becky Lynch.
[UNKNOWN]: So didn't do anything.
[UNKNOWN]: But to go back to what we're talking about that Triple H is booking of the women's division.
[UNKNOWN]: he is not good at booking anything outside of whoever is going after the championship.
[UNKNOWN]: Can you think of any like women's stories that don't currently involve a world title?
[UNKNOWN]: We were in the process of getting one with Charlotte and Jade, and now they've sort of...
[UNKNOWN]: The last one that we got that had any sort of excitement around it, or a buzz around, it was Naomi and Jade Cargill.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
[UNKNOWN]: So the most recent one, I guess you would say, was Bailey and Lyra.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: That was the most recent story they tried to tell.
[UNKNOWN]: Generally speaking,
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think he does a very good job of really focusing on those non-title kind of midcard stories with the women.
[UNKNOWN]: Why is there such a disconnect from NXT though?
[UNKNOWN]: Because Soul Rooka was in a months-long program with Zarya.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah?
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: It's like NXT exists in its own little world.
[UNKNOWN]: And it's just, it's just very different.
[UNKNOWN]: Sean Michaels approach is just very different than triple which is kind of weird because they're they're at best friends and they're very similar in many ways But yet so different.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: I can't explain that.
[UNKNOWN]: It doesn't make any sense.
[UNKNOWN]: Look, there are people who are getting pushed in NXT and they get called up and they do nothing with them.
[UNKNOWN]: Why are they called up in the first place if they don't really have any plans for them?
[UNKNOWN]: According to Bruce, but according to Bruce, they're not ready.
[UNKNOWN]: And I don't know why you call them up if you don't you don't think they're ready for the main Ross.
[UNKNOWN]: I think Saul Rook who could have benefited from maybe another user in the next day.
[UNKNOWN]: We didn't need to go.
[UNKNOWN]: We didn't need to call her up.
[UNKNOWN]: If this was going to be the result.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Again, I'm fine with calling her up, but there has to be a purpose there.
[UNKNOWN]: There has to be a purpose there, dude.
[UNKNOWN]: Like, that's what just it grinds my gears when this happens because then they just stagnate and it's like, who's really benefiting from this?
[UNKNOWN]: No, nobody, nobody.
[UNKNOWN]: So they barely do how shows anymore.
[UNKNOWN]: She'll disappear and WWE will bring her back when she's flavor of the month again.
[UNKNOWN]: That's what's going to happen.
[UNKNOWN]: EO is going to win.
[UNKNOWN]: I feel EO needs to win.
[UNKNOWN]: I think Liv Morgan winning the championship is just the way it's the time.
[UNKNOWN]: Coming out of Russell Mania.
[UNKNOWN]: uh... will uh... get to the bigger uh... matches here towards the end of this uh... i'm gonna go bellot winds here nicky brea and page verse fatal influenced jay c jane lani read and found only they are the new tech team champions they beat uh... brea and page et cetera tonight's main event which was the right move
[UNKNOWN]: uh... then we had a lady read lose on friday to rebella in a rematch that nobody acts for uh... which then nicky returned and saved her sister and page from a beat down from it from fatal influence which is why we got this match here uh... and then i know Jason and i talked about jcg not qualifying for this latter match which i thought was a terrible creative decision i don't know why but uh... we can't undo that
[UNKNOWN]: I know I heard you talk about this chasing on on crowned icon.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm kind of leaning in the same direction as you.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if they're going to do it, but I don't want to see a bellot wins.
[UNKNOWN]: He'll turn because Nikki Bella already tried that when she feed it with Stephanie for care last year and that fell flat on its face and we don't need to go back and redo that.
[UNKNOWN]: It just got a fit.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: How did that heal to it?
[UNKNOWN]: And it just sort of, well, I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, bring it all up to Saudi Arabia and everybody.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, Chancellor, that's how that changed.
[UNKNOWN]: I see.
[UNKNOWN]: I see this.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you know what this is.
[UNKNOWN]: This is a team total divas is what it is.
[UNKNOWN]: It is.
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't really think that.
[UNKNOWN]: But it is.
[UNKNOWN]: But I like your idea of the page possibly turning heal.
[UNKNOWN]: I think that may actually benefit her because she's painfully boring.
[UNKNOWN]: What is a baby face?
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: There's nothing there.
[UNKNOWN]: There's a baby face.
[UNKNOWN]: So the idea, the thought process I had behind it was, they're going to lose this match.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, they should lose this match.
[UNKNOWN]: My god.
[UNKNOWN]: If they fucking win this match, I think that's horrendous.
[UNKNOWN]: So they should be a win for fatal influence.
[UNKNOWN]: And the idea is that, you know, and maybe it doesn't have to happen.
[UNKNOWN]: It's summer slam, but now that Nicky is back, you know, Paige is kind of being pushed down.
[UNKNOWN]: She's being pushed to the side and maybe get around the heel side.
[UNKNOWN]: And maybe even link her up with with fatal influence.
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe she becomes the fourth member of fatal influence, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Because the Bella, I just don't see the Bella's being turned just because I think they want to build the two of them up to win the tag belts together as sisters.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so I'm going fatal influence as well here.
[UNKNOWN]: They need to win this.
[UNKNOWN]: L.A. Knight, Solosico, a Royce Keys versus the Bloodline.
[UNKNOWN]: Jacob Fattu, J. Uso, and Jimmy Uso.
[UNKNOWN]: I think we are both in agreement that this has been not very interesting, but.
[UNKNOWN]: I said this last night, and I'm sure Jason said it as well.
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't listen to his role review yet.
[UNKNOWN]: Solosakawa has largely been miscast, and he's been uninteresting because of the people that they surrounded with him, NFTs.
[UNKNOWN]: Tamatanga, Taltanga, and the Great Tonga Loa, who's no longer there.
[UNKNOWN]: The MFTs were never given a real reason to be on TV.
[UNKNOWN]: We didn't know anything about them.
[UNKNOWN]: WWE didn't do anything at all to tell us why we should give a shit about who they are or where they came from or why they would solo soko or what their vision is, what their mission statement is nothing.
[UNKNOWN]: They just threw them on TV, put face paint on them, and we were supposed to think that they were some intimidating group.
[UNKNOWN]: Then they viewed it in with the Y at six and everything just went on for too long, six months and they eventually...
[UNKNOWN]: All over the lantern.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, I could have been about the sacred lantern.
[UNKNOWN]: That was a there was a movie trailer that just dropped the other day for something called the lanterns, right?
[UNKNOWN]: I think is what it is and I I started having PTSD as soon as I heard the word lanterns.
[UNKNOWN]: I just I was like, oh no.
[UNKNOWN]: So so important that lantern and you know they ended up releasing the whole group.
[UNKNOWN]: So the Lantern Matt have been cursed, I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: But the MFTs were largely wasted time.
[UNKNOWN]: Solo, he leaves the MFT, or I guess actually, I should say the other way around.
[UNKNOWN]: Timetong and Tall, time to leave.
[UNKNOWN]: Solceco is left on his own.
[UNKNOWN]: So now Jason, we're starting to see solo kind of feel a little bit free.
[UNKNOWN]: He's got this just looseness to him.
[UNKNOWN]: He's just free.
[UNKNOWN]: He's like unshamed.
[UNKNOWN]: He was on Monday not raw wearing this cream colored suit.
[UNKNOWN]: Very, very rock-ish.
[UNKNOWN]: And he's out there having a jovial time.
[UNKNOWN]: He's very charismatic.
[UNKNOWN]: He's showing his personality.
[UNKNOWN]: He legitimately, on a terrible dismal show, was one of the biggest standouts among the net roll last night.
[UNKNOWN]: And I'm finally in a position where I'm not there yet, but I have high hopes for what they may be doing with Solosico.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and who knew that all it took was just getting him away from this terrible MFT's nonsense and letting him actually show off his personality
[UNKNOWN]: shocking.
[UNKNOWN]: Who knew?
[UNKNOWN]: And so we got more charisma and personality out of him last night than I think we did in like six months plus nine months a year of him on SmackDown.
[UNKNOWN]: I always said I've said this on here before you know I've said this where I felt like there was a really great baby face run buried within him.
[UNKNOWN]: All they needed to do was just let him go out there and be himself.
[UNKNOWN]: I know what that means.
[UNKNOWN]: You know what this means, right?
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I
[UNKNOWN]: No, I thought you were going to say they were going to turn him into like Dan Housing and just overload him and put him in like eight segments on every show until like it's seconds.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, that too.
[UNKNOWN]: I won't be surprised to see that either.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: He was getting solo chance.
[UNKNOWN]: There were some light solo chance in the building in Los Angeles last night.
[UNKNOWN]: So yeah, he's been, I've been enjoying his stuff a lot more recently and we'll see God, I hope they don't just swore of us and throw him into the family stuff.
[UNKNOWN]: I think that would be terrible.
[UNKNOWN]: Um, but at the end of the day, they are wrestling the bloodline and I don't see Jacob and the Uso's taking the loss here, so I'm I'm going with them for the win.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'm going unfortunately bloodline as well.
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, Jacob fought to again terribly miscast here.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't want the fuck are they doing with him?
[UNKNOWN]: My God.
[UNKNOWN]: And, but yeah, well, you know what, that's another issue that you could say that about Jacob fought to.
[UNKNOWN]: You could say that about Brown Breaker.
[UNKNOWN]: Gunther.
[UNKNOWN]: Nice.
[UNKNOWN]: He's dragging off.
[UNKNOWN]: There's a lot of people at the beginning of this year who you compare where they were then to what they're doing, if anything, what they're doing now, it's bleak.
[UNKNOWN]: Like dude, it is bleak.
[UNKNOWN]: It's fucking scary.
[UNKNOWN]: Are they doing with some of these people?
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going bloodline.
[UNKNOWN]: You're looking at what potentially could end up being the war games match.
[UNKNOWN]: with these with these six individuals right here and then obviously Roman and whom ever else they want to bring in.
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe it's a new family member who knows.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: We'll see what happens without going into Houston and Survivor Series.
[UNKNOWN]: Bloodline for the win here.
[UNKNOWN]: Goonter and Nick Aldis.
[UNKNOWN]: Out of everything, I mean, it's easy to take what are you most interested in?
[UNKNOWN]: And all of a family, Brock Lesnar's in Punk out of the roads.
[UNKNOWN]: I think I am interested more so in this match than anything, just based on what Nick all this is going to do after three years being away.
[UNKNOWN]: Now, he has signed off for this match and has now at least temporarily Jason relinquishes GM duties.
[UNKNOWN]: And what that means is,
[UNKNOWN]: But now he's not the GM.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if he's going to resume his duties after this match with Gunther.
[UNKNOWN]: We'll smack down find a new GM.
[UNKNOWN]: We'll add him peers man bolt shows.
[UNKNOWN]: We'll we go on a hunt to bring in a new GM.
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe William Regal's a GM.
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe AJ Styles as a GM.
[UNKNOWN]: Who knows?
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm interested in this match.
[UNKNOWN]: It's based on Nick Aldous because I do think that if there's anybody to be in the ring with here as a first match back in three years, it's going through that's the best opponent for him.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm gonna call this guy.
[UNKNOWN]: I like the way he carries himself, I like the way he wrestles, I like the legitimacy that he brings.
[UNKNOWN]: I think this is going to be a match that is going to not necessarily steal a show, but it's going to leave people talking at the end of the weekend.
[UNKNOWN]: It's in a traction.
[UNKNOWN]: you know, it's a special attraction on the show.
[UNKNOWN]: You have a lot of WWE fans who have never seen it all this wrestle before.
[UNKNOWN]: And they'll be all they need.
[UNKNOWN]: What's done?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, all they know, yeah, said like the rap group, like what?
[UNKNOWN]: So all they know of him is what like Gunther mentioned in that promo last week where, you know, you used to be a wrestler, former NWA World Champion, and now you're washed up and everything.
[UNKNOWN]: So there's going to be this genuine curiosity about what he looks like in the ring, and for him, I know this is something that I'm sure he's just been, you know, this is what he wanted to do, you know, he didn't, he didn't have dreams of coming here to be the general manager.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, I mean, it's like Jerry Lawler, he was a commentator for them for so many years, and he would do these interviews and they would go, oh, do you enjoy doing commentary?
[UNKNOWN]: He's like,
[UNKNOWN]: But yet, look how many years he's a commentary for.
[UNKNOWN]: This is the role they have for him.
[UNKNOWN]: I assume after Summerslam, he's going to go right back to the GM rule.
[UNKNOWN]: He's very good in the GM rule.
[UNKNOWN]: I would imagine that this goes well.
[UNKNOWN]: We'll see him from time to time, when the situation warrants it, he'll get in the ring.
[UNKNOWN]: So I mean, I'm looking forward to seeing how he looks in there with Gunther, but dude, anything other than Gunther winning this match.
[UNKNOWN]: What are we doing here?
[UNKNOWN]: Ah, you have such high hopes for Triple H, right?
[UNKNOWN]: What are we doing here?
[UNKNOWN]: This can't go, it's can't possibly go any other way.
[UNKNOWN]: Could it?
[UNKNOWN]: No, I would assume Gunther has to win, yes.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going, I'm going, going through with the win.
[UNKNOWN]: We'll see what happens.
[UNKNOWN]: Hopefully Nick Aldis brings his best after the three years against the ring general.
[UNKNOWN]: Old Befemi and Brock Lesnar held in a cell.
[UNKNOWN]: This is the third match between these two.
[UNKNOWN]: Brock in Minneapolis was the big rumor.
[UNKNOWN]: How?
[UNKNOWN]: Why?
[UNKNOWN]: Now we know why.
[UNKNOWN]: Old Befemi won the King of the Ring.
[UNKNOWN]: He relinquishes opportunity to challenge for a championship.
[UNKNOWN]: As Streamy Argers came up for Jason.
[UNKNOWN]: Let me say a state in studio.
[UNKNOWN]: So look out for that.
[UNKNOWN]: uh... he relinquished his spot in the uh... championship match to wrestle block luster inside hell in the cell now uh... i don't think he will go back to that they'll probably just put him in the role rumble and just uh... just uh... just kind of negate the king of the ring and just get rid of it and he'll win the role rumble and go challenge roman and sorry arabia which i'll get to in a second as far as the smash they said we got in the into a dome the visual of the hell in a cell and they were triple h there without a pierce and a big scale and
[UNKNOWN]: We got the hell on a cell on Monday, not raw last night for 14 minutes segment that left over in the ring in the cell and Brock locking the cage from the outside leaving everybody inside.
[UNKNOWN]: Now, I feel bad for the production team and the fucking state chans that have put this thing together for 14 minutes.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't really like the whole visual of them in the, can I ask you a question?
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: It might be a stupid question.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Why didn't they just lift the cell?
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I was I this is what I heard from the WWE Fedbots on social media.
[UNKNOWN]: Apparently Triple H didn't want to ruin his investment and told them to keep the cage lowered is what I was told.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but they invited Brock down to the ring with the idea that he was going to get in the cage.
[UNKNOWN]: He just opted not to dive in the cage.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm only telling you what I was told by the federal fund.
[UNKNOWN]: This is what I mean, what I say that they will defend.
[UNKNOWN]: It doesn't matter what kind of slopp it is.
[UNKNOWN]: They will always be people willing to defend the indefensible.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
[UNKNOWN]: And in many cases, just to be contrary, like I'm convinced of it, like they know it's stupid, but they're going to just find a way to defend it, just to piss people off.
[UNKNOWN]: It's a very sad, I wasn't trying to be combative.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm just afraid of what I thought was a valid point.
[UNKNOWN]: Like, you know, he's got the keys of the door and his teeth and like, oh, he's freaking out and then everyone's like, oh my god, they're all locked in the cage.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm like, well, why don't they just lift it?
[UNKNOWN]: Well, don't you think 15,000 in the attua dome when they raise the cage to let everybody out?
[UNKNOWN]: That's exactly what they thought as well.
[UNKNOWN]: Why didn't they do that 15 minutes ago?
[UNKNOWN]: I'm sure, yes, I'm sure, that's it.
[UNKNOWN]: Like, we had a weigh-in, first of all, we had a weigh-in for a match where there's no weight classes, but we have a weigh-in, okay.
[UNKNOWN]: And Brock ended up weighing in at 303 or whatever, but he didn't actually weigh in in the ring.
[UNKNOWN]: He was like, he already weighed in in the back.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm like, okay.
[UNKNOWN]: And so you had him in just doing the usual havin' lines, right?
[UNKNOWN]: The conqueror, the beast, undefeated in hell and a cell and the two matches he's ever had.
[UNKNOWN]: And repeating a lot of the same stuff that we've already heard him say.
[UNKNOWN]: That's nothing new.
[UNKNOWN]: No.
[UNKNOWN]: Do you find it weird that they did a weigh-in for the third match?
[UNKNOWN]: And not the first match?
[UNKNOWN]: I felt like it would have been the other way around, huh?
[UNKNOWN]: Man, I've been a little too picky on that.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, a way in, I mean, that's, that's, that's, that doesn't bother me.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
[UNKNOWN]: That was fine.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, that it was more just like the little things again.
[UNKNOWN]: Like, why not just lift the cell and just, you know, stupid stuff like that.
[UNKNOWN]: But at the end of the day, like, I get them wanting to do a way in instead of just like a regular contract signing, which I think they already did, right, for the first man.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
[UNKNOWN]: because you want to have them on the show.
[UNKNOWN]: We had a ton of idiots last night.
[UNKNOWN]: Like we had a live Morgan video.
[UNKNOWN]: We had an EOS guy video.
[UNKNOWN]: We had a chat, Gabel video.
[UNKNOWN]: We had a pen to video.
[UNKNOWN]: So I could appreciate having them there in the flesh.
[UNKNOWN]: They would have been better off just putting them in the ring and saying, look, you guys agreed to know physicality.
[UNKNOWN]: This is your last chance to address the crowd and to address each other and say whatever it is that you guys want to say before you're your big clash at SummerSlam.
[UNKNOWN]: and just let them do their thing.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't even know why Triple H needed to be in there to be honest with you.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I may be he wanted to show everybody that he's trying to regrow his hair out.
[UNKNOWN]: You know that people in my chat had a theory about this?
[UNKNOWN]: What's that?
[UNKNOWN]: Let's see if you agree.
[UNKNOWN]: Their theory is that he's growing his hair out because the bald fraud comments have gotten to him.
[UNKNOWN]: So that's actually a sound argument.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes?
[UNKNOWN]: The DJ, I think the comments are getting to him honestly, I think everything's getting to him.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, he can no sell it all.
[UNKNOWN]: He wants to give me.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: They all say, like, oh, social media is a very small, like, niche minority, like, loud, vocal, but not, please.
[UNKNOWN]: He's probably in bed next to Stephanie.
[UNKNOWN]: Honey, they're calling me the ball fraud.
[UNKNOWN]: How do I fix this?
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know how to fix it.
[UNKNOWN]: Did he's got like he's got fucking burner accounts like you mean, but they all do give me a break I fucking tweeted out of less though.
[UNKNOWN]: I like what the for you think this is good shit I'm like I don't like to I directly tweeted as a county probably for manager, but I just want someone to see it This match hell in a cell.
[UNKNOWN]: I thought this was just kind of hokey I don't like the visual of the hell in a cell before the actual hell in a cell match Because it's the whole mystique of it like they're gonna be in there and they had a show when I'm Monday night It's because they had nothing else on the show
[UNKNOWN]: Um, no way.
[UNKNOWN]: And like Jason said, very similar shit, verbiage between Paul Heyman and Brock Lesnar and all the Femi.
[UNKNOWN]: Triple X didn't really do anything out there.
[UNKNOWN]: There was only one, one of them that was weighed.
[UNKNOWN]: Older beats up the police officers again with no repercussions.
[UNKNOWN]: Triple X is standing in the corner like, yeah, that's a good job, man.
[UNKNOWN]: I like the way you, uh, handle those guys.
[UNKNOWN]: It was six on one man.
[UNKNOWN]: It's good on you.
[UNKNOWN]: He almost dropped somebody.
[UNKNOWN]: one of the guys poor poor.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, on the fall from grace of tennis.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if the guy didn't go up for it.
[UNKNOWN]: He actually cut it after he finally did the move over went over and gave him a nice fucking like pound kick to the ribs.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, man.
[UNKNOWN]: Now my question to you is I think we both understand that open needs to win this match that they were both going with over.
[UNKNOWN]: As far as a pull him and he's been hype in this up, it's going to be a violent affair.
[UNKNOWN]: He doesn't want to use the word violence.
[UNKNOWN]: Now you would think with these two guys being inside
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know how physically they are going to be allowed to go.
[UNKNOWN]: So my question to you is the last time we saw Honeysel with CM Punk and Drew McIntyre and they had a classic match that really kind of brought you back to the glory days of Honeysel after Vince McMahon ruined the concept and watered it down completely where it was just irrelevant.
[UNKNOWN]: Are they going to step out of the shadow?
[UNKNOWN]: Are they going to one up Drew McIntyre and CM Punk at bad blood a couple years ago?
[UNKNOWN]: Do you think they they top that match?
[UNKNOWN]: No.
[UNKNOWN]: No, no, no.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, that was, that was a special match.
[UNKNOWN]: And it had also been built up over the course of the entire year.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, it went back to the injury at the Royal Rumble and Drew was just the biggest social media troll the whole year.
[UNKNOWN]: And it culminated as it should in hell and a sell.
[UNKNOWN]: And they just had a five star match.
[UNKNOWN]: So I'm not going into this like, oh, man, they had a top punk in Mac.
[UNKNOWN]: Like, you can't go into it with that mindset because you're just setting yourself up for disappointment.
[UNKNOWN]: I think it's unfair to them.
[UNKNOWN]: I've enjoyed the first two matches they had.
[UNKNOWN]: The first one was four minutes, the second one was six minutes.
[UNKNOWN]: All I hope in this one is that it doesn't take them longer to lower the fucking cage than a length of the match itself.
[UNKNOWN]: Like we get double digits.
[UNKNOWN]: It'll be seven and a half minutes right on sell that.
[UNKNOWN]: Here we get ten minutes at least of this match.
[UNKNOWN]: If anybody bleeds like Brock's gonna do what Brock wants to do.
[UNKNOWN]: To his credit, I mean, I know we beat him in the last match, but Brock seems to like, Oh, but, and I'm sure he's going to do the, you know, do the honors for him here.
[UNKNOWN]: It's the only way that this should end.
[UNKNOWN]: I could see Brock may be, you know, getting some blood in this match.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know about Oba, but if Brock wants to get color in this match, I mean, who's going to say no to him?
[UNKNOWN]: If Brock wants the blade, Brock is going to blade.
[UNKNOWN]: It does.
[UNKNOWN]: Only difference is that I feel like this match is going to open up that night of Summerslip.
[UNKNOWN]: And are the, are the opening matches on ESPN again?
[UNKNOWN]: I think so.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I think Gabel and Penta, some people would tell me Gabel and Penta is definitely part of that.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know, for sure though.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, whatever night Gabel and Penta are on, that will be in the first hour.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: I know that.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if it's opening, but that will be in the first hour.
[UNKNOWN]: So that might be like if they're going to do Brock and Oba on ESPN, maybe they don't want blood.
[UNKNOWN]: So but otherwise, like I wouldn't be shocked if Brock wanted to, you know, to get blood.
[UNKNOWN]: He got blood in the, um, well, undertaker down trying to think the first hell in a cell match he had a taker and O2 undertaker blood.
[UNKNOWN]: The second one they had in 2015 did anybody bleed in that man?
[UNKNOWN]: I don't remember.
[UNKNOWN]: I want to say, I want to say, Brock blood, but I'm not really sure.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I don't remember.
[UNKNOWN]: So it's it's up to Brock.
[UNKNOWN]: Brock's going to do what Brock's going to do and then I could say no to him.
[UNKNOWN]: So we'll find out of a family for the win and Brock Lesnar goes away for a little bit.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think we see him until Russell many season.
[UNKNOWN]: He's not retiring.
[UNKNOWN]: So that's what I feel is going to happen there.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
[UNKNOWN]: So they're saying that I don't think that they're doing any ESPN matches.
[UNKNOWN]: Is there another sporting event that weekend?
[UNKNOWN]: Is that why?
[UNKNOWN]: That could that maybe that's why.
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe there's some sporting event on ESPN that they're airing that weekend and that's why they can't do it.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not sure.
[UNKNOWN]: If that's the case and they've gotten rid of that for this, I think that's a welcome edition.
[UNKNOWN]: I think the two matches on ESPN and only four for the actual show was just read it.
[UNKNOWN]: Optically it looks terrible.
[UNKNOWN]: So over for the win there against Lesnar, Helen is sell.
[UNKNOWN]: Like I said, I don't think we see Lesnar until Russell Manie again.
[UNKNOWN]: And then the main event, yeah, yeah, this idea that like this is going to be his retirement mattress something like I don't buy, I don't buy any of them.
[UNKNOWN]: I cannot envision him not being as Russell Manie and Saudi Arabia.
[UNKNOWN]: Sam punk and Cody Rhodes, this is the main event of night one.
[UNKNOWN]: Some people will shock to see this man event night one and not night two.
[UNKNOWN]: But I would have found it the other way around.
[UNKNOWN]: Can I say something?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: So the 3,100 in here and you as well.
[UNKNOWN]: So I, and I think maybe you and I were on the same page with this, I wanted to see this match of WrestleMania this year.
[UNKNOWN]: Me too.
[UNKNOWN]: And I felt like, can still feel like it's one of the biggest matches, you know, I saw it rocking Roman.
[UNKNOWN]: It's one of the biggest matches they could do, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Roman rock, Roman, Ober, and then probably this.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm glad we're getting it here.
[UNKNOWN]: I was adamant that this, to me, this was the night two like weekend closing main event and having seen television over the past week, I was wrong.
[UNKNOWN]: And I think that they are going with the correct choice to close out the weekend, going with Roman and Seth instead, I was waiting to see what they were going to do in that promo on SmackDown on Friday because I really, I thought, man, they're, okay, this is going to be the money promo right here, right?
[UNKNOWN]: They're going to be lobbing bombs at each other.
[UNKNOWN]: They're going to be going after each other.
[UNKNOWN]: It wasn't bad, but it wasn't what I was expecting.
[UNKNOWN]: It was actually very tame compared to what I thought it would be.
[UNKNOWN]: And now here we are, we have one SmackDown left.
[UNKNOWN]: They have put a lot more effort into the Roman and set stuff of all these little vignettes they've been airing and they closed out Saturday nights main event with that little angle they did.
[UNKNOWN]: They had that great face to face during the contract signing a couple of weeks ago.
[UNKNOWN]: Here we are, Summerslam is this weekend.
[UNKNOWN]: What feels like the real main event of this weekend Roman Reigns and Seth Rollins?
[UNKNOWN]: So I understand them doing Cody and Punk on night one.
[UNKNOWN]: I was hoping I would feel differently about it, but I think they got it right in terms of what match ended up getting night two, even though it's a match that honestly, I didn't need to see.
[UNKNOWN]: If it were up to me, we'd be getting Roman and Ober this weekend, but that had don't ask me, that's we can we can we can we can have that debate, uh, Roman and Seth, I'm kind of over it.
[UNKNOWN]: But you can't deny that they have done a better job of making that feel like the big match of the weekend.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, well, he's many episodic stories that they're telling throughout month and hour, well, for less two weeks, three weeks now, yeah, for weeks now, but even just in terms of what they've done with them on TV, there's just been more stuff, yeah, with the two of them and more interactions with the two of them, then we've really had with Cody and punk.
[UNKNOWN]: I, I was underwhelmed by what we got on Friday from that face, the face.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I got some of the promo pulled up here.
[UNKNOWN]: I was all right with it, it didn't blow me away.
[UNKNOWN]: I've seen a lot better from both guys, especially them in the ring together.
[UNKNOWN]: I think the last time they went the ring together was after WrestleMania and punk had the black eye coming out of the Roman match.
[UNKNOWN]: I thought their promo back and forth there was good on the right of the mania.
[UNKNOWN]: much better than this.
[UNKNOWN]: Cody Cody says the locker room is the most talented roster ever assembled in wrestling and he says hats off to Nick Connich, Triple H. And I'll tell you the truth.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't sweat any of them except for you.
[UNKNOWN]: Just you.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't have a ship on my shoulder anymore in the moment.
[UNKNOWN]: You come down here in this lovely audience to sing in your song and the passion fills this arena all of a sudden.
[UNKNOWN]: I do, and it weighs the same amount as that WWE Championship.
[UNKNOWN]: I could love you, I could respect you, I can tell you I don't like you.
[UNKNOWN]: For the story to have the proper ending, it's fair to me to say I have to beat you at Summerslam.
[UNKNOWN]: So...
[UNKNOWN]: CM Punk goes on to basically tell Cody that he has to make himself the victim and you have to make everyone else your enemy.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, if Kevin Owens is your enemy, if Randy Orton is your enemy of John Cena is your enemy, what does that make me Cody?
[UNKNOWN]: That makes me your only friend because I promised you years ago and that I wasn't going to stab you in the back.
[UNKNOWN]: I was going to stab you in the front and that's exactly what I'm going to do with Summerslam.
[UNKNOWN]: I'll stop there because that's basically the the just of what they got Jason.
[UNKNOWN]: I feel like what we're going to get us a great wrestling match I think if there's anybody that we should trust here to deliver a great pro wrestling match and really kind of embody a man event for some Islam.
[UNKNOWN]: It's these two guys The only problem I have is right now there are two baby faces that are clashing
[UNKNOWN]: I'm much prefer the old school style of the heel and a baby face.
[UNKNOWN]: And the last time we saw Cody in the main event of SummerSlam, he was going one on one with John Cena and he did 100% did show some heel tendencies in that match with John Cena where he took the title back last year at SummerSlam.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, he did, he did the match with the Orton, too.
[UNKNOWN]: He did it, he did it, he did it, he did it, he did it, he did it, he did it, he did it, he did it, he did it, he did it, he did it, he did it, he did it, he did it, he did it, he did it, he did it, he did it, he did it, he did it, he did it, he did it, he did it, he did it, he did it, he did it, he did it, he did it, he did it, he did it, he did it, he did it, he did it, he did it, he did it, he did it, he did it, he did it, he did it, he did it, he did it, he did it, he did it, he did it, he did it, he did it, he did it
[UNKNOWN]: now is the time to strike.
[UNKNOWN]: I feel with punk saying I'm going to stab you in the front and not in the back.
[UNKNOWN]: I feel like Cody needs to step punk in the back and I think he needs to play the heel going into the smash.
[UNKNOWN]: And I think we need to start maybe getting a heel Cody, but I doubt WWE was going to go that way.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I don't think CM Punk is losing the championship.
[UNKNOWN]: No.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going with him to retain.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to go ahead and predict that we get a Cody heel turn.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to say that we get a Cody heel turn.
[UNKNOWN]: He does a win the title.
[UNKNOWN]: It may be something that happens post-match, you know, they have a competitive match and, you know, punk wants a shake his hand after something and Cody is just finally, you know, had enough of being the nice guy.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know exactly how it's going to go down.
[UNKNOWN]: I just feel like to your point.
[UNKNOWN]: If there was a time to do it, I wouldn't have said this six months ago.
[UNKNOWN]: I definitely wouldn't have said this a year ago when the rock was trying to steal a soul.
[UNKNOWN]: Now it feels like you can turn, you can turn Cody or at least do something different.
[UNKNOWN]: Or maybe he's just not this kind of white meat corporate baby face that he's been.
[UNKNOWN]: Because coming out of summer slam and if he just keeps doing that, dude, I mean, it's boring.
[UNKNOWN]: It's bringing the show down in front is no.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's bringing the show down.
[UNKNOWN]: It's boring.
[UNKNOWN]: It's uninspired.
[UNKNOWN]: Now you have a chance to do something a little bit different with Cody Rhodes.
[UNKNOWN]: I just don't think that they're going to take the belt off punk yet.
[UNKNOWN]: They've moved that championship around a few times recently.
[UNKNOWN]: I think they're going to want to keep it on him for a while.
[UNKNOWN]: I think we can get both.
[UNKNOWN]: I think you can keep the belt on him but also go in a different direction with Cody.
[UNKNOWN]: And that's maybe it's wishful thinking on my part, but that's what I'm thinking we're going to see.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, they need something.
[UNKNOWN]: I feel like that is the best way to go here.
[UNKNOWN]: Going with punk as well.
[UNKNOWN]: No reason to take the belt off him.
[UNKNOWN]: Cody needs a character's change or some subtle change.
[UNKNOWN]: Something.
[UNKNOWN]: Something that's noticeable.
[UNKNOWN]: uh... going into friday that's a lot of the case that's not one they overloaded night one night two does not look anywhere close to night one though there is uh... a couple of great wrestling matches to be had on night two which will talk about now trick Williams is talk with the shric wings of the family united state shampie jibb against barric carbon white car mellow haze is left out in the dust here in missing wrestling and now some is a huge
[UNKNOWN]: Question mark for me.
[UNKNOWN]: They didn't even play this angle out on live television.
[UNKNOWN]: They saved this for a social media post, which I asked why that smack down show was deplorable on Friday night.
[UNKNOWN]: We got basically a mini women's paper view that nobody acts for trick Williams here, Jason.
[UNKNOWN]: I feel like he's going to retain and I do think mellows going to have some some saying this because he theoretically got fucked over by Baron Corbin on Friday a couple of weeks ago.
[UNKNOWN]: I think that we're going to have a new United States champion.
[UNKNOWN]: Right, they're going to belt Corbyn.
[UNKNOWN]: I think they're going to belt Corbyn.
[UNKNOWN]: OK. Where's that mean for tricklings?
[UNKNOWN]: Means he's going to be in Chase mode.
[UNKNOWN]: OK. That sort of means.
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't expect you to say that, but you may be correct.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: There are four things.
[UNKNOWN]: First matchback wins a title.
[UNKNOWN]: I'd rather he win the title and his first matchback than losing his first matchback.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
[UNKNOWN]: if they're going to be serious about pushing him and doing something with him on smack down, that's what I would do.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, he was in that maybe I also, maybe I also feel like the quicker we get rid of the furry belt, the better.
[UNKNOWN]: And that eventually we know tricks going to get it back anyway, but if Corbin does win the belt, he can shave it.
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe they'll give him his own replica title, too.
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe a black leather, maybe motorcycle
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know my god did you see that new Brock Lesnar belt it is yeah that I mean yeah, I did see it It's also 799, but it it it looks ugly honestly.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, oh, it's hideous But they're selling it for like $800 and I guarantee you it's gonna sell out of course This belt color thing is a huge thing the crown jewel champion again the crown jewel championship Dude $2,000 for that belt.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if it ever sold out but supposedly it was it was close to selling out
[UNKNOWN]: You fucking fiends out there, you belt collectors.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know, I'm going to trick with mellow interfering.
[UNKNOWN]: I can't see Baron Corbyn winning the championship so soon and taking it off trick.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: We'll see.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm just glad that trick is on the show.
[UNKNOWN]: Melos should be there.
[UNKNOWN]: It should absolutely be a shrubble threat match, but Corbyn got the one on one match.
[UNKNOWN]: Here's Sami Zayn Finn Baller.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm glad that they got Sami on this card because we were talking about and coming up with ways about how to get him here and is he really going to miss a two-night summer slam?
[UNKNOWN]: clearly not that a number of contenders match on smack down that included uh... trick Williams why he's the notice that shamping i don't know daming priest fim baller and uh... who else with the other was that somebody else in the match was that was with their miss and before we yeah uh... well was baller's frick uh... police wrote and rescues yes so basically everybody see a punk study wants to rustles the world of your way champion
[UNKNOWN]: uh... sami zana fimbal should be a great match uh... i don't think that sami is going to lose here because i think he has more of a right than anybody to get another shot at the championship after the recent situations that we've seen on the ww television cell i think this is a good opponent for him and i think he ends up getting the winner is in sami that's that's precisely the reason why i think he's going to lose really i think i think fimbalor is going to be the number one contender for the ww
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, man.
[UNKNOWN]: Valorant CM Punk again, huh?
[UNKNOWN]: Look, dude, Valor, Valor had, well, that was on Raw.
[UNKNOWN]: This is on SmackDown, no.
[UNKNOWN]: And Valor was a heal then.
[UNKNOWN]: Now he's a baby face.
[UNKNOWN]: It's a little bit different.
[UNKNOWN]: Look, Valor, hey, I don't know how long it's going to last.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, it'll last as long as until he gets a title match and then he'll lose.
[UNKNOWN]: But he's actually been winning matches.
[UNKNOWN]: So pin Valor is on vacation.
[UNKNOWN]: He's gone for now.
[UNKNOWN]: He's on a beach somewhere.
[UNKNOWN]: He's sonning himself.
[UNKNOWN]: And we actually have wind baller.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know how long he's gonna last, but I kind of like wind baller.
[UNKNOWN]: I think baller is gonna get the wind on Sunday.
[UNKNOWN]: Sammy, his crusade is going to continue.
[UNKNOWN]: Yet again, he gets screwed over.
[UNKNOWN]: That's kind of his gimmick now.
[UNKNOWN]: And it also hit me when I was talking about it earlier.
[UNKNOWN]: Like, this is 10 years to the very event where Baller won the Universal title and fucked up his arm.
[UNKNOWN]: There's 10 years ago at the summer slim.
[UNKNOWN]: And he was never the same because of that injury.
[UNKNOWN]: It just, it felt like a derailed everything for him.
[UNKNOWN]: All right, you saw me.
[UNKNOWN]: I think Triple H is going to give baller a moment here.
[UNKNOWN]: 10 years to the event.
[UNKNOWN]: There you go, bro.
[UNKNOWN]: Another championship opportunity for you.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: We'll go Fin Baller.
[UNKNOWN]: Win Baller.
[UNKNOWN]: Win Baller is going to get the win here over Sami Zayn.
[UNKNOWN]: Tiffany Stratton, Jake Cargill, Chelsea Green, Charlotte Flair, and Friday will determine the last of the entrance here for this five-way second place interim women's championship match.
[UNKNOWN]: Is either going to be Julia or Lash legend.
[UNKNOWN]: Now, how we got here, J.C. lost the Tiffany, I don't know why, Tiffany's got her own title, but she's going after the world title, J.C. should be there.
[UNKNOWN]: Jay beat Naya in a one minute disqualification.
[UNKNOWN]: Thanks to Charlotte.
[UNKNOWN]: Kiana James loses to Chelsea green in three minutes.
[UNKNOWN]: Charlotte won by DQ after Jade costs Naya again.
[UNKNOWN]: That was on SmackDown this past Friday and Julian Lash legend.
[UNKNOWN]: So we'll start there, Jason, who's going onto events?
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, lash lady.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
[UNKNOWN]: I was gonna say Julia, but I'm a hopeful idiot.
[UNKNOWN]: So, okay, so you're picking Julia.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going Julia, yes.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, so you're picking Julia.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm picking lash legend.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm picking lash legend to win the entire thing.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm telling you, that's what I think is going to happen.
[UNKNOWN]: But here's the really funny part about this whole thing.
[UNKNOWN]: Is that Naya Jax, and say what you want to about Naya Jax, I'm not advocating for her to be added to the latter match.
[UNKNOWN]: But if anybody has a case to be made about getting screwed over,
[UNKNOWN]: It's Naya Jax, because in both of her qualifying matches, somebody interfered and through no fault of her own cost her the chance to go to SummerSlim.
[UNKNOWN]: And so I love how Adam pierces great decision at it.
[UNKNOWN]: When they went backstage and Naya was ranting and raving, she really should have just been inserted into the latter match if we're being honest or at least get one more qualifier.
[UNKNOWN]: His solution to this was to basically tell her to shut up and I'm going to put your partner in the qualifying match.
[UNKNOWN]: It is not fair.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, so we're in agreement on that.
[UNKNOWN]: That is not fair at all.
[UNKNOWN]: Lash, I think Lash is gonna win if for no other reason, they have one heel in the entire match.
[UNKNOWN]: I think they need one more.
[UNKNOWN]: Because you got Jade is the only other heel in this match.
[UNKNOWN]: So what is your thought process here?
[UNKNOWN]: If Rhea is going to be back relatively soon and the crowning an instrument champion, they need her, they need someone for her to beat and you would rather it be Lash than Charlotte.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, here's the thing.
[UNKNOWN]: I think the Charlotte thing is something that they're going to want to save.
[UNKNOWN]: If you think about it, the original plan was rumored to be rea and Alexa Bliss or Rea and J.C.J.
[UNKNOWN]: Those were the two names that were being rumored.
[UNKNOWN]: So if that was the case, Rea was very likely going to go in there and keep her championship, right?
[UNKNOWN]: So I don't think that they have any interest in going to rea and Charlotte yet.
[UNKNOWN]: I think they're going to want to save that.
[UNKNOWN]: Charlotte can win the interim belt and then as soon as Rea comes back, which might be in the next few weeks,
[UNKNOWN]: I don't see them wanting to go right into Rhea and Charlotte at what?
[UNKNOWN]: Like, wrestle people.
[UNKNOWN]: I was going to say, even at WrestlePolusa, I think they want to build that show up to be a bit on Major Deal though.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, they might, they might, but I feel like that's a match they're going to want to hold off on.
[UNKNOWN]: to where when they do it, maybe Charlotte wins.
[UNKNOWN]: And I don't think they want Rhea to not be the champion heading into Crown Jewel if they do Crown Jewel in October.
[UNKNOWN]: So I don't know, I just feel like when they, if they eventually do another match between Charlotte and Rhea, I think there's going to be a very good chance that Charlotte wins.
[UNKNOWN]: And I don't think they would want Charlotte winning the title now.
[UNKNOWN]: I really think they want to do Rhea and Eo at Crown Jewel.
[UNKNOWN]: Me too.
[UNKNOWN]: So you got to put her in there with somebody that she can be.
[UNKNOWN]: You could do Chelsea Green.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't see them doing that.
[UNKNOWN]: No.
[UNKNOWN]: I think Charlotte, you could do Jade, but to me, been there done that.
[UNKNOWN]: That's the worst option.
[UNKNOWN]: I would rather lash lunch because something different.
[UNKNOWN]: Been there done that.
[UNKNOWN]: She's got the issue with Charlotte.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't really see it being Jade and that leaves Tiffany.
[UNKNOWN]: The Tiffany is a Minnesota girl.
[UNKNOWN]: But she's the United States champion.
[UNKNOWN]: What the fuck does she need there to run total for?
[UNKNOWN]: Are you kidding me?
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, why?
[UNKNOWN]: So she could call herself Tiffy two belts.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
[UNKNOWN]: Everybody's two belts.
[UNKNOWN]: That is it.
[UNKNOWN]: It's Salomon's two belts.
[UNKNOWN]: J2 belts.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Kevin Knight wanted to be jet two belts.
[UNKNOWN]: Everybody wants to be two belts.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, like you.
[UNKNOWN]: No, I think Lash actually makes a lot of say, this is assuming she gets into the match.
[UNKNOWN]: Now I have to say, if Lash doesn't get into the, if I'm wrong, and you're right, and Julia qualifies.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm picking Jade.
[UNKNOWN]: I think Jade, I think they would give it to Jade before they would give it to Charlotte.
[UNKNOWN]: All right.
[UNKNOWN]: I like your idea of lash legend.
[UNKNOWN]: I can absolutely see that.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't want Jade anywhere near the championship, personally.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going Charlotte.
[UNKNOWN]: I think Charlotte wins.
[UNKNOWN]: We get that match at Russell Palusa.
[UNKNOWN]: Rea wins, thanks to Jade, and we finally get the one on a match with Charlotte and Jade.
[UNKNOWN]: Because this was supposed to be Jade versus Charlotte.
[UNKNOWN]: So they're just kind of kind of consumed this into the latter match, but I'm going a little bit more of a simplistic way to get there.
[UNKNOWN]: So I'm going to Charlotte and Jason is going a couple of different directions, but ultimately, last if she's not there, Jade.
[UNKNOWN]: rickshaw rickshaw said like even saw a monster has two belts behind the other one So let's do about this.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, he does.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, I do Penta Chad Gable intercontinental championship.
[UNKNOWN]: I guess we'll keep this simple because the story basically goes back to Penta's first match in WWE which was against Chad Gable which started him on the crusade to go Basically harm Lucially brain the traditions of Lucially brain.
[UNKNOWN]: He went to go find himself
[UNKNOWN]: which gave us El Grande, Americano and we saw him lose the mess to Kaiser, Americano and now Gables on this crusade to write all the wrongs that he did over the last year and half and he's finally going after the one championship that he promised to win for his family for his fan base and that is now held by Penta and the I.C.
[UNKNOWN]: championship.
[UNKNOWN]: Very simplistic, creative, you're Jason, you've tripled, you've booked a match, that's step one.
[UNKNOWN]: now we got to do what we got to do at summer's land.
[UNKNOWN]: Give these got don't even work throw the fucking script out the windows sit there next the Bruce give these guys 20 minutes let them create the best match of the weekend and chat gave a chat gave a wins.
[UNKNOWN]: You think you think they're getting 20 minutes.
[UNKNOWN]: Are you a fucking by no now it'll probably go 10 with an eight minute commercial break fall lucky lucky if they get 10 to 12.
[UNKNOWN]: What I'm saying they should do, give them 20 minutes, give them a match at a night, Gable wins the icy title.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
[UNKNOWN]: That's the only acceptable outcome here.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
[UNKNOWN]: You're in Minneapolis.
[UNKNOWN]: He's in the middle of his redemption arc here.
[UNKNOWN]: He literally came back and was going around apologizing to people for being mean to them.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, if he does a win the belt here, it ain't ever going to happen.
[UNKNOWN]: It's now or never.
[UNKNOWN]: That's it.
[UNKNOWN]: End of story.
[UNKNOWN]: This is the easiest match to predict on the entire show.
[UNKNOWN]: Outside, I guess, of Obo and Brock.
[UNKNOWN]: They have one job.
[UNKNOWN]: I think they'll do it.
[UNKNOWN]: And I think it'll be a great moment.
[UNKNOWN]: And then we'll get the, I guess we'll get the visual when it's over of Gable trying to get everybody to.
[UNKNOWN]: Gable.
[UNKNOWN]: Gable from the win, new intercontinental champion.
[UNKNOWN]: see what happens there.
[UNKNOWN]: This is the one that I think people want us to hear.
[UNKNOWN]: I want to hear us rant about Dan Housing versus Dominic Mysterio.
[UNKNOWN]: This will be for $100,000.
[UNKNOWN]: So triple issues basically taking a page at a Tony consplay book, a money match.
[UNKNOWN]: And it will be a human
[UNKNOWN]: Now, this all got started because of Denhausen's obsessive cursing of Liv Morgan and he stole the money that's done with the only one cursing last night.
[UNKNOWN]: No, no, he was not.
[UNKNOWN]: Dominic wanted to pay Denhausen to curse Oberfemi in their King of the Ring semi-final match, which he ended up stealing, which is why we are where we are today.
[UNKNOWN]: The concert last night, which
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know why it happened or why it was needed or what the purpose of it was, but we got a concert last night Jason with Dan Housen and Joe Hendry that was one of the most offensive and one of the worst segments on pro wrestling TV all year.
[UNKNOWN]: It will go down in my opinion as one of the worst segments in WWE Raw history.
[UNKNOWN]: Ryan Garcia, who has been very controversial for some drug abuse and some some performance enhancing drug abuse and some things he said in a Twitter space is that I will not reiterate here because it's absolutely deplorable and disgusting.
[UNKNOWN]: They invited him on the show and gave him television time when I could list about a fucking dozen people on this show that aren't getting television time period or may not be on the
[UNKNOWN]: this segment was so fucking bad that I didn't even review the overall episode of RAW match by match and I complained legitimately about what is wrong in every aspect about their show now dad housing is innocent and small doses
[UNKNOWN]: But I genuinely feel that Dan Housing and his involvement of the show is now actively harming the show and the show is just as bad as it is and then you do include this on the show.
[UNKNOWN]: I ask myself, what the fuck are we doing?
[UNKNOWN]: Like I went off so much last night, I said, I'm done with Triple H and I glazed the fuck out of what he did in NXT and I'm now starting to even question how much of a handy add in what we saw in glory day NXT Black and Gold.
[UNKNOWN]: This man, if he got up at a bed, and he went to his office and put his little bike focus on, and he's wearing his leather jacket, sitting in his office, and he takes a pen and a paper and writes the greatest storyline of all time.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't give a fuck if he sits next to Zack Bagans and contraps ball, the fucking spirit from the on the world to come up with a storyline that helps him get this product back to where it needs to be.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't trust him anymore.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm done.
[UNKNOWN]: I am at a point work right now where
[UNKNOWN]: I'm just literally waiting for his removal.
[UNKNOWN]: That's how fed up I am of what we're seeing on national television for both Monday and Friday, this shit sucks so badly that I never want to see Dan has an on TV ever again, and I'm that may be a little overboard, but I think he's actively his involvement in the show was ruining all enjoyment for me from this point on because WWE just sees money and they're just fucking jamming and down on the road.
[UNKNOWN]: You remove him and who do you think he's going to replace him?
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know, come up with a door on you, oh, oh, you know who is going to replace him.
[UNKNOWN]: Who's going to replace him?
[UNKNOWN]: Bruce.
[UNKNOWN]: Bruce, pressure is going to replace?
[UNKNOWN]: If he's tamper early.
[UNKNOWN]: Sure.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not, the point is, I'm not sure that that's really going to change anything for the better.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not saying that he doesn't deserve the criticism, I'm just saying, you know, when we say things like, you know, get him out of there or demote him or remove him or whatever, it's not as if there's some pot of gold at the end of the rainbow there that's everything's going to be so much better, right?
[UNKNOWN]: I don't have a lot of faith that that's the, if anything, I might get worse.
[UNKNOWN]: As scary as that is he maybe he may be the one thing between us at a product that's somehow is even more, you know, celebrity driven and corporate and just, you know, it's just, I agree with everything else.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, it's just fucking awful.
[UNKNOWN]: The Dan has a thing, they do it because Dan has it, he is popular, and I'm sure he's making them a lot of money, but he's everywhere, and he's a comedy act.
[UNKNOWN]: comedy act is good in small doses when you have him on television in just multiple segments do they have a fucking like a boss I saw the ice cream did you see it's terrifying yes like his face is like on the front of it if I was like going on a walk and this thing was driving down the street I would run the opposite way
[UNKNOWN]: He's everywhere and they're going to burn they have a shining star in this guy that they discovered and they're going to burn it out If they haven't already apparently with you, they've already burned it out and I don't disagree with anything You said there this segment.
[UNKNOWN]: They thought that this was going to be sports entertainment and this was going to be funny And this was their way of like as putting more heat on the judgment day because they were going to come out and they were going to do the big ambush It was going to somehow build their match at summer slip
[UNKNOWN]: uh... what it was was concert slop where i swear to you when the lights were out and we heard the guitar strum the first thing that popped into my head was uh... what i was waiting for was hello i am a lot i thought for sure we were a lot of my name is a lot of you hello i am a lot of you like what the fuck so that the lights come on and joe injuries in the ring
[UNKNOWN]: And another week where he gets no entrance on raw.
[UNKNOWN]: It's total, I noticed.
[UNKNOWN]: I started to pick up on this now that you mentioned it.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, total rib at this point.
[UNKNOWN]: And there's Dan Housing playing with his organ.
[UNKNOWN]: And there you go.
[UNKNOWN]: And that might have been more fun than watching this segment.
[UNKNOWN]: And they do this song.
[UNKNOWN]: And I'm, as I'm watching this,
[UNKNOWN]: I'm wondering to myself, how is it that when Joe Hendry when he was on the ascent?
[UNKNOWN]: And he was doing the same thing in TNA, where he would come up with these songs on his own.
[UNKNOWN]: Like this was, these were original songs to like heal on his opponents, like AJ Francis and stuff.
[UNKNOWN]: And he would make fun of his opponents.
[UNKNOWN]: Like it was genuinely entertaining.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: It was funny.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, he made music videos.
[UNKNOWN]: Why are we not seeing that?
[UNKNOWN]: Why are we getting these concerts these lame fucking concerts?
[UNKNOWN]: The only person who should ever be in concert by the way on WWE Television is the rock.
[UNKNOWN]: And even the last concert, the rock did wasn't very good.
[UNKNOWN]: Remember that one he did when he was the final boss?
[UNKNOWN]: That wasn't very good.
[UNKNOWN]: It was better than what we're getting now.
[UNKNOWN]: The last concert they legitimately, they was Ricky Sains, and they deleted it off their YouTube page because it was so bad.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
[UNKNOWN]: So please, if you're going to do concerts in the future, leave it to the rock, okay?
[UNKNOWN]: But I would love to see Joe Henry doing more of what brought him to the dance.
[UNKNOWN]: And what I found to be truly entertaining, which, like you said, is the music videos,
[UNKNOWN]: What has been his direction since he was called up to the main roster?
[UNKNOWN]: I'm actually wondering why was he called up to the main roster in the first place?
[UNKNOWN]: Well, why did they want him to begin with his my question?
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: Why?
[UNKNOWN]: Why did they want him to begin to do why?
[UNKNOWN]: Why did they get him out of his contract early?
[UNKNOWN]: Why did they put him at WrestleMania in an open shelves against Randy Orton is the DNA champion because he was the hot thing at the time people were, you know, people wanted him and they were probably, you know, they figured, okay, this will get a good pop from the crowd.
[UNKNOWN]: He was the end thing at the time that was never going to last like bias remorse.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, did they feel like he's already fucking was good.
[UNKNOWN]: No, I mean, it's very clear to me that he like he's done.
[UNKNOWN]: Like as far as like anybody who had any like hopes of him being involved in the show See the thing is I don't think anybody ever expected it was gonna be a world champion.
[UNKNOWN]: He's not gonna be a world champion, but even just somebody who
[UNKNOWN]: He's like, yeah, again, in the middle of the card, but has his own thing going on.
[UNKNOWN]: He's feuding with this person, he's feuding with that person.
[UNKNOWN]: And again, coming up with songs and doing everything he did that brought him all the attention in TNA.
[UNKNOWN]: And it's like, nope.
[UNKNOWN]: We're going to go the WWE Sports Entertainment route.
[UNKNOWN]: We're going to have him do a concert and he's going to come up with these songs and it's not going to lead anywhere.
[UNKNOWN]: And he's basically going to be treated as a second class citizen on this show that you are not to take seriously.
[UNKNOWN]: He doesn't even have a match at Summerslam.
[UNKNOWN]: So I'm not sure why we needed the Joe Hendry concert.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, it tied into the Danhausen stuff, but even just him being on the show frankly this week felt like it felt pointless to me because he has nothing to do with Summerslam unless
[UNKNOWN]: So, the entire segment was a misfire, it didn't work, and what I compared it to in my raw review last night when I was talking about it.
[UNKNOWN]: It was the it would be like the equivalent of a comedian who's telling a joke right there they're at a comedy club and the joke doesn't land it's a terrible joke nobody laughs and instead of just reading the room and ending things and moving on.
[UNKNOWN]: They just keep going in there and they're like trying to save the joke.
[UNKNOWN]: the little mini-housings come in and they're saying I believe that you are it's the same lyrics over and over again there's no real originality to it and then with those lake i think lakers dancers they had like L.a. lakers dancers come out and they're doing a dance routine outside and i'm looking at the people in the crowd by the way who was just like sitting there i don't know what they paid for those seats and what must be going through you know they're
[UNKNOWN]: I know what was going through my head.
[UNKNOWN]: There were a lot of thoughts going through my head.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, as I was sitting here watching this, I was actively thinking, is this the worst television segment of the year in the answers?
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, on any wrestling show that I've seen.
[UNKNOWN]: This is where they kind of jump the shark with things because they feel like, hey, with Dan House and we can do anything.
[UNKNOWN]: We could do anything because he's a silly character so we could have a silly segment and so we'll have a little mini house and and somebody sat in a room during the week and they had a map this whole thing out and they said yep this sounds like a great idea all right that this is what I got from the the the e fed bots on social media.
[UNKNOWN]: Now you you can blame triple I blame triple H. He clippers.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, they're saying clippers dancers Oh, fine.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I guess what they play.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, the other clippers.
[UNKNOWN]: The clippers and okay So apparently apparently everybody's like why you blame a triple H. This is a T. K. Oh, move for well first What everything's gonna be blamed much for play because he makes himself the face of the company and if you're gonna do that then you need to Face the heat in the kitchen.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay
[UNKNOWN]: Now, being at this segment, include a ride gun at Ryan Garcia, was this another heavy-handed move brought down by Ari Manuel Marks repealing the rest of the TKO and force Triple H to put this guy in this segment and force this guy to do this segment.
[UNKNOWN]: All or was this segment already in progress without Ryan Garcia and this is the best place to put Ryan Garcia.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, make excuses.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm telling you what I'm telling you what I've heard.
[UNKNOWN]: I blame Triple H for everything.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, if you wanted this Ryan Garcia character on the show, you didn't have to do a fucking concert, dude.
[UNKNOWN]: You could have come up with any, they actively came up with the concert idea.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: And so I don't buy into that.
[UNKNOWN]: And by the way.
[UNKNOWN]: they had introduced Ryan Garcia earlier in the show because of course it's L.A.
[UNKNOWN]: So you have the the constant like let's take a look at the celebrities in the crowd.
[UNKNOWN]: And they had a few of them.
[UNKNOWN]: Ashton Kutcher was there.
[UNKNOWN]: And they show Mario Lopez and they showed Oshay Jackson Jr and that and they and Fluffy was there fucking Gabriel Iglesias.
[UNKNOWN]: And the biggest one of all Jimmy Hart was there.
[UNKNOWN]: Jimmy Hart.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
[UNKNOWN]: And he didn't get boot this time.
[UNKNOWN]: Like he was the last time that he was at the end to a dome.
[UNKNOWN]: G.I.
[UNKNOWN]: wonder why and so here we had Ryan Garcia now correct me from wrong did they identify him as being a zoo for boxes that was okay see I am I am done with this every fucking week with this because they thought it's synergy right because they try to get the zoo for boxing Nobody cares every week they show a zoo for boxing person in the crowd fucking crickets yeah nobody cares
[UNKNOWN]: Nobody cares.
[UNKNOWN]: So he's in the crowd with Zufab and so when I see him get into the ring, I'm like, I didn't know who it was.
[UNKNOWN]: And until the announcer's mentioned it, I'm like, what the fuck is this?
[UNKNOWN]: And he puts the the guitar in, you know, Joe Henry's back and they're like, oh, he's joined the judgment day.
[UNKNOWN]: And I'm like,
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, what what what what what are we doing I don't know what are we doing Who who does is who does this appeal to or is it just like always got 1.2 million followers on social media He's a big boxer and we want to lead you off that a little bit.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't care not none of us care I don't care either.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm just saying I would love to know when these ideas are conceived Hey, who's idea it is and Why they think that anybody would give a shit?
[UNKNOWN]: they they put more thought into this than getting brown breaker on the summer slim card for tonight's show is missing Carmella Hayes missing Dragon Oves off TV countless others off TV brown breaker is the most egregious of them all because of where he was at the beginning of the year to where we see him now and now he doesn't even find himself on summer slim for two nights how anybody defends that is just fucking mind boggling to me but they will
[UNKNOWN]: they will.
[UNKNOWN]: It's not his time, JD.
[UNKNOWN]: It's not his time.
[UNKNOWN]: Sure.
[UNKNOWN]: As you look at his face and he's standing there as Austin Thiris, groping fucking and the maxing duper every week, he's like, what the fuck is my life?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he's reconsidering his life choices and that anything.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going with Dominic Mysterio to win this, believe it or not, I think he needs to win
[UNKNOWN]: He's the only man in my god.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, imagine he loses the den house with the undertaker must be being me as he's preparing to book this guy a triple mania in a couple of months of defending his fucking championship, given the money's back and get this guy off TV.
[UNKNOWN]: That's all.
[UNKNOWN]: I figure here's what I figure.
[UNKNOWN]: He wins the match.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, it's a poll match, right?
[UNKNOWN]: So there's no disqualifications or anything.
[UNKNOWN]: So we'll probably get JD McDonald will be out there and whatever.
[UNKNOWN]: We'll get people and maybe Joe Henry will come out to counteract JD McDonald.
[UNKNOWN]: And Dom will pull down the human money using the fucking bag and the exploding in this face or something.
[UNKNOWN]: So in the end, Dan Housing will get the last laugh, but at least Dom can get the win.
[UNKNOWN]: Because I think any other outcome here to me is just silly.
[UNKNOWN]: And I know Dan Housing is undefeated so far, but I don't give a shit.
[UNKNOWN]: Like Dom should not be by the way, Dom, you keep talking about like, brown breakers and different people, what about Dom?
[UNKNOWN]: The hottest heel in the business about a year and a half ago, the coolest fucking heel on the roster.
[UNKNOWN]: What has he done in the last year?
[UNKNOWN]: Nothing.
[UNKNOWN]: Not a damn thing.
[UNKNOWN]: Guys, you want to, I know a berry gets worked thrown around a lot.
[UNKNOWN]: I would even actually use this word in this instance, buried.
[UNKNOWN]: But give me a break, give me a break.
[UNKNOWN]: Um, yeah, that's, that's basically all she wrote there.
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, and then Roman Reigns and Seth Rollins quickly here before we get to the Superchats.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going Roman.
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, I know, and I think you're going Roman too.
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, it's been built up decently.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, there's no, there's no excitement here because.
[UNKNOWN]: For four straight weeks, they've done nothing but repeat themselves over and over and over again, like I'm playing my Spotify playlist on repeat.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, it's just the same shit.
[UNKNOWN]: But at the end, being that this is main event thing night, too.
[UNKNOWN]: Do you think that we get anything like funny happening at the end?
[UNKNOWN]: Do we get something that leads us to what happens on raw?
[UNKNOWN]: And additionally, my second question to you is, is Roman going to be around if the summer slam where is he going to go on his little vacation?
[UNKNOWN]: I would think that, you know, if they're doing wrestle, pollution, September, he would stick around through then, then maybe disappear for a couple of months, come back for war games.
[UNKNOWN]: So I think he'll stick around the little while longer.
[UNKNOWN]: He, look, he said, after wrestle, man, he got me through the summer, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Summer's not over yet.
[UNKNOWN]: I think Roman's gonna win.
[UNKNOWN]: I think we could sit here and try to come up with like, well, how are they gonna close the show?
[UNKNOWN]: Is there gonna be some kind of big angle or something?
[UNKNOWN]: I think that it's gonna be as simple as Roman finally does the one thing he hasn't been able to do.
[UNKNOWN]: He beats Seth Rollins in a major match.
[UNKNOWN]: And that's the story.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't, I did, that's it.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I don't really, what would be the big surprise here, at the end of the show is somebody come back, like what would be,
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, if they were going to set up an opponent for Rome and a wrestle polluses, if somebody were not thinking of, would Drew McIntyre show up at the end and now he's on Raw and you do something with Roman and Drew coming out of the show.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, is there somebody who could show up that you think would be realistic?
[UNKNOWN]: No, he would be the only one, do we get somebody joining the blood line, someone that we're not thinking of?
[UNKNOWN]: Not on this show, no.
[UNKNOWN]: I think eventually we're not on this show.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, that's Somerslam.
[UNKNOWN]: That's Somerslam.
[UNKNOWN]: I figure the show's going to go off the air with holy ones in the air.
[UNKNOWN]: And he walks up the aisle on to Joe Tess in the port and the poxio.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you know, it's like whatever.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but Jason, I was both the most amazing Somerslam ever.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we did the biggest Somerslam social media numbers all time.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't give a fuck bro.
[UNKNOWN]: It's part of the product sucks.
[UNKNOWN]: They were for what I saw earlier.
[UNKNOWN]: I think Russell ticks had an update.
[UNKNOWN]: This I think was only for night one.
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't see the night two one.
[UNKNOWN]: They were up to 30 2000 seats.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, well, well, they sold 10,000 seats, huh?
[UNKNOWN]: Amazing what affordable ticket prices will do here.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and again, still 20,000 behind where they were last year for 911.
[UNKNOWN]: All right, they're going to feel the heat in the kitchen.
[UNKNOWN]: Triple H is going to feel the heat there.
[UNKNOWN]: There's a reason why they didn't sell the tickets product is terrible.
[UNKNOWN]: And they're too hot.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, my favorite part is Joe Tess at some point when he talks about the women's ladder match, talking about Jade Cargill.
[UNKNOWN]: J.
[UNKNOWN]: Cargo, we got Joe Cargo.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we got Joe Henry and Joe Henry.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, I think that was Michael Colva.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's just a fucking rim all over the place.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: I just I can't get over it's been months and it's still Jade Cargo.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he's the only one I have ever heard said in a moment like I just I don't I don't get it.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't understand I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know why they say it with the way they do Listen that's your that's your TNT tonight that's your summer slam preview We went over redemption summer slam busted open.
[UNKNOWN]: It was a lot of discussion tonight.
[UNKNOWN]: I hope you guys enjoyed it
[UNKNOWN]: thirty two hundred people in here.
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you for all the support.
[UNKNOWN]: You guys are finding away over here because you're looking for some new pro wrestling content to consume and you're not getting it from busted open anymore.
[UNKNOWN]: This is the perfect place for it as well as what we are doing individually.
[UNKNOWN]: Jason's got his own thing.
[UNKNOWN]: I got my own thing so you guys are in the right place.
[UNKNOWN]: One thousand likes was the goal you guys smashed that eleven forty one is what I'm seeing right now real time.
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you guys very much for that.
[UNKNOWN]: and we're gonna get into you superchats again if you want to follow Jason on social media and on youtube everything is linked down below get into these superchats for someone to shout out Brandon and have really again for the massive bombs earlier in the night you guys have really kind of kicked things off here and we love to see it start things off with Michael cross to all superchats J.D.
[UNKNOWN]: Jason OTS join the tap room how you know yeah thank you Michael
[UNKNOWN]: Hardcore Kevin with a five bang or screen today boys you guys are the goats question of the day who's the best kisser?
[UNKNOWN]: What are you talking about?
[UNKNOWN]: What's the type of question is I don't care if that's got hardcore Kevin you you have some of the weirdest fucking questions Seriously, he's living up to his name.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I guess I'm
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, Timothy James with 18 months after witnessing Monday's events, the community needs voices like JD Jason and Coach more than ever proud to be a member of the OTS family and advertise the brand.
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you Timothy.
[UNKNOWN]: I appreciate you very much.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
[UNKNOWN]: We are more needed now than ever before.
[UNKNOWN]: Javier Lee again.
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you, brother.
[UNKNOWN]: Michelle with a five setth Roman should put on a banger match.
[UNKNOWN]: I hope they have a big angle planned since that match is night two main event.
[UNKNOWN]: And do you see Cody punk feuding after Summerslam?
[UNKNOWN]: I do, I don't know that they will immediately go into a rematch.
[UNKNOWN]: I could see them maybe wanting to kind of drag it out, I'd get away from it and then maybe come back to it, maybe we still get it a WrestleMania next year, but by then, there's a clearly defined heel and a clearly defined baby face, instead of doing two baby faces.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, and with the one-eyed denying no message, thank you, Kayden Bradley, well they too.
[UNKNOWN]: Ray will never retire.
[UNKNOWN]: Alia, his daughter, I signed with the WWE, yes, she's at the performance center, yeah, wrestling runs in the family.
[UNKNOWN]: Sean Waters with the fight I'll see which I can't thank you guys enough watching this Filth so we don't have to again, I know you did this for us while other fans don't have to thank you Thank you Sean, thank you for being here brother, thank you for the support
[UNKNOWN]: True crime on leash for the five Roman stated affinatics the bloodline store will continue until he retires WWE radio announced that a Denise Sussetto has officially been hired Shocking Shocking news the bloodline.
[UNKNOWN]: It may continue until he retires, but that doesn't mean it will be good The Lloyd with the five months.
[UNKNOWN]: Jay the I didn't know Nick all this was madness.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes Yes, he was
[UNKNOWN]: Boss Mojax with the one 9-9 TNT for life, OTS for life, solo, sound off for life.
[UNKNOWN]: I love you guys, thank you boss Mojax with cheers.
[UNKNOWN]: Steven B with the 5th, even if somehow both nights of Summer Samurai great, there's no hope for RAW and SmackDown, it's game over.
[UNKNOWN]: There's no trust, that trust is completely shattered after Monday.
[UNKNOWN]: 100% shattered.
[UNKNOWN]: Boss Mojax with the one 9-9, what are you guys doing?
[UNKNOWN]: What are you guys doing when 9-11 happened?
[UNKNOWN]: What were you doing?
[UNKNOWN]: Um, well, I was getting ready to start my day.
[UNKNOWN]: I actually had the good morning America on the TV and saw everything kind of playing out in real time and I was going to, I was going to class and then I walked there to the building and they ended up canceling everything and everybody was just sort of glued to the, uh, the different TVs, you know, on campus.
[UNKNOWN]: uh... funny enough this is very very weird of what i was doing i was actually on a bus in the Bronx going to f i e because it was a twos day and i was on my way to go buy the new slayer record early in the morning the slayer record was titled god hates us all and the first track was about terrorism hitting the united states real talk
[UNKNOWN]: Well, so it was just weird how I was on my way to go buy that record and the first song was legitimately a song called Disciple And it was about terrorism in the United States or there was a line in there or two about terrorism in the United States and that's what happened just freaky shit But I'll never forget where it was on that there.
[UNKNOWN]: It's just very odd Boss my jacks with a one-eyed nine.
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you very much, brother again with a four-night nine a guy asks sir Can you tell me how to get to the cemetery?
[UNKNOWN]: Stranger replies gladly press on the gas really hard and close your eyes Okay Thank you boss my jacks and Justin Toner with the fight-out super genre great TNT tonight.
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you guys You need to check out the amazing pipe bomb pro boat from grace and wall of that open then XT tonight.
[UNKNOWN]: It's on YouTube Oh, you mean they're finally utilizing grace and wall Interesting
[UNKNOWN]: Well, type of pipe bomb could he cut on NXT and against him.
[UNKNOWN]: In fact, it is not being used.
[UNKNOWN]: Austin there.
[UNKNOWN]: Everybody did resolve their feud.
[UNKNOWN]: They did not know.
[UNKNOWN]: He would actually you mentioned.
[UNKNOWN]: I think he would actually fit in the vision if they wanted to use.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, well, I mean, I, I said that at the time when I felt the vision was still salvageable, but now I've just ratted the vision dyes die a quick death, and we move on.
[UNKNOWN]: Let me show you a rom breaker under your same thoughts as well.
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, AJ body, yeah, you know what, you know what, I just had a thought to go back to what we were talking about were Roman and Seth, yeah, and you mentioned over like a new bloodline member, maybe.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, there was somebody who partnered with the bloodline in war games a few years ago.
[UNKNOWN]: And if you wanted to get him away from the vision stuff, and get him over to the bloodline side, you got Bronson Reed.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know where he is in terms of his recovery, if he's just kind of waiting, or if he's not there yet, but Bronson Reed, helping Roman women, and being linked up with them, what would you think about that?
[UNKNOWN]: I don't mind that.
[UNKNOWN]: I think that's uh, I think it's a better use of him than being the vision, but uh, what would be the explanation that he just shows up at roping and then not the vision.
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't want to be there, man.
[UNKNOWN]: That's all.
[UNKNOWN]: It's out live.
[UNKNOWN]: Big bad bronzer read.
[UNKNOWN]: He's a body, what happened to Joe Hendry Cersei, he was over for two years.
[UNKNOWN]: They gave him job or entrance and botches name, Joe Henry, sometimes John Henry, a Henry.
[UNKNOWN]: I know, I didn't hear that John Henry one.
[UNKNOWN]: That's not the new one to me.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, it's bad when they can't get your name right.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: We talked about it before.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't even know why he was brought in.
[UNKNOWN]: If that's the best I got for him.
[UNKNOWN]: Crona with a fight all super chat, BOW!
[UNKNOWN]: Pupupu!
[UNKNOWN]: Solo carried raw.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, would you rather take RKO out of nowhere while grocery shopping?
[UNKNOWN]: Or take her designing decor and lighting in your room.
[UNKNOWN]: Or absolutely take her designing my room, 100% sure.
[UNKNOWN]: Also Crona with a two worst best meal you've ever cooked slash eaten.
[UNKNOWN]: It's gonna take some time to think about that one.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you're probably more of a cook than I am.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't really I don't really cook anything Hello, fresh is coming big over here, man.
[UNKNOWN]: We a lot of hello fresh in this house.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh Yeah, backer Dingo Barry with a fight all super judge.
[UNKNOWN]: Just stop by to say hey, listening to greatness never gets all love you guys.
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you Thank you.
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you, man Boss my jacks one on the nine you find a large bag of cash.
[UNKNOWN]: What's your next move depends on how much?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and that's kind of important to know because every how much is in there because my first thought was I'm going to get that hell out of here All right, oh buy new apartments rent a new apartment buying new car, you know, it depends I will one thing I will not be doing is giving it to Dan Housing now We'll get the the fucking Solomon's the money's on a pole match Bro
[UNKNOWN]: You think Vinny Rue is a smile for me to hear on that creative decision Leslie?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I think he had a good nice little tingle up his leg.
[UNKNOWN]: He heard that announcement.
[UNKNOWN]: Jericho with a 10.
[UNKNOWN]: Have you all seen the video of 55-year-old Valvinis coming out of retirement over the weekend and doing a towel trip with his yellow old-timer body?
[UNKNOWN]: I miss who I was before I saw that video.
[UNKNOWN]: Unfortunately, I did see this.
[UNKNOWN]: It was not pleasant.
[UNKNOWN]: Did you see this Jason?
[UNKNOWN]: No, I don't pay any attention to getting anything about him says or does.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, I got it.
[UNKNOWN]: Charles!
[UNKNOWN]: Thought I'll see which I wishful thinking Salomonster already announced for Ring of Honor, new TBS Champion, My World.
[UNKNOWN]: Is that a joke?
[UNKNOWN]: No, he's fees for real.
[UNKNOWN]: That's a real thing?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: She's on Ring of Honor, coming up on Thursday.
[UNKNOWN]: Jason is not pleased.
[UNKNOWN]: Meta with a four nine nine.
[UNKNOWN]: It's all fun and games until Dom pulls those money's from the pole only to be filled with 10,000 teeth and the feud continues brother Please Don't put that out in the universe Ash with the two scene that came across so phony and WWE unreal.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, he is a politician.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah, dude.
[UNKNOWN]: I have a watch yet
[UNKNOWN]: We know this already though.
[UNKNOWN]: We did but like it was very noticeable on the show like it's It's something very off-putting about it Also with the two do the backstage people and WWE unreal have Tourette's
[UNKNOWN]: It is also very noticeable how many times Triple H says fuck in the course of just a single conversation actually him and live Morgan both not that there's anything wrong with that but it was very noticeable like if Triple H if you're going out to the ring and Triple H wants to like really hype you up doesn't matter who you are like I'll come over and give you a pep talk I'll be like
[UNKNOWN]: All right, this is your fucking night.
[UNKNOWN]: All right, you're gonna go out there.
[UNKNOWN]: You're gonna have a great fucking match All right, when you go out there on stage.
[UNKNOWN]: I want you to stop.
[UNKNOWN]: I want you to pause for a second and soak up the fucking moment All right, I want you to look around this is your fucking night.
[UNKNOWN]: He's playing up there and he's playing up for the camera big time.
[UNKNOWN]: He's what I'm here Oh, well, probably but like I'm like geez my god.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh my god Also Ash on real however is better than their weekly shows.
[UNKNOWN]: I went down it.
[UNKNOWN]: I went down it
[UNKNOWN]: King of Philly with a 999.
[UNKNOWN]: This is by far the worst year of WWE creative.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't see it getting any better soon because football season is soon approaching they will be on auto pilot mode by then More than likely correct, but usually this is the time they do go on auto pilot mode because after some reason we don't have anything until survivor series and even the bill for survivor series is very weak.
[UNKNOWN]: So your next build will come at the Royal Rumble.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh god, you know, it's bad.
[UNKNOWN]: The head of things have been dude, this is the word supposed to be like you're siding.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: And we're heading into September and October.
[UNKNOWN]: And usually it's just fucking dead.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, imagine how much worse it's going to be.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: If you guys got vacation time coming up or want to take a vacation and take a break, now's the time to do it.
[UNKNOWN]: Trust me.
[UNKNOWN]: Ah, look.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, the four night they're done.
[UNKNOWN]: If TK is waiting for Bailey to come over, let her win the belt and play our reverse work on what they did in WWE, keep your state as losing until then.
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, again, I thank everybody speculating on Bailey and we won't really know anything about Bailey.
[UNKNOWN]: It's, it's, her contract isn't up supposedly until October.
[UNKNOWN]: We'll just wait and see.
[UNKNOWN]: Lois with a 1399.
[UNKNOWN]: There are some things I enjoyed our redemption, but it wasn't enough to justify its existence Unfortunately, as someone who was in the building, hopefully all in delivers wherever Demtion failed.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, it will.
[UNKNOWN]: I've been to several A.W.
[UNKNOWN]: paper views several with Jesse.
[UNKNOWN]: We had a great time.
[UNKNOWN]: The atmosphere is great But that's when A.W.
[UNKNOWN]: was a different company.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know what it's like now AJ with a 499
[UNKNOWN]: Would you be able to actually like attend one of these events without like wearing a mask or putting it back on your head?
[UNKNOWN]: Um, I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: I think so.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think I'll be able to sit in the media a section because they probably all want to come from my head, but
[UNKNOWN]: do you remember the uh the sign fell deficit where um cramer takes the karate class with the kids yes and he's beaten up what and they realized because they didn't realize he was in a karate class against like eight year olds.
[UNKNOWN]: and then there's this scene where he's walking through like a dark alley, like he's leaving one night and then all of a sudden the kids are surrounded by him and he goes to run away.
[UNKNOWN]: He goes to climb up like the ladder on the side of the building and they just like they can wrap it and they track.
[UNKNOWN]: I picture those of the sickos and they're just they're pulling you down and they're just like jadies like, oh they're just dragging you down.
[UNKNOWN]: So, you know, you might want to wear a mask or just like that right then.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that could be a scene in real life for sure.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't doubt it.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know what was so redemption about redemption Tony Khan and hangman page of fools for bringing him back on collision trying to count to UFC and the world cup, yeah, I mean he wasn't even mentioned on the follow up weekly television shows.
[UNKNOWN]: I actually was just a very odd creative move, I don't know why he did it.
[UNKNOWN]: It could also be ruined by bullies, too, but to run by bullies.
[UNKNOWN]: Sure.
[UNKNOWN]: Whoever's running in is running into the fucking ground.
[UNKNOWN]: MJ and Ballon, 10-0, CBJ, playing off the previous Super Chat, just imagine.
[UNKNOWN]: Yo bro, want to come over for the Argentine game and the fights?
[UNKNOWN]: No man, I can't hang them in pages returning tonight.
[UNKNOWN]: I want to see that on collision.
[UNKNOWN]: Says nobody ever.
[UNKNOWN]: We'll see you here return did he return it feels like maybe I just kind of dreamt it.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: It's almost like it never happened.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he did.
[UNKNOWN]: He very much did ball.
[UNKNOWN]: And we'll see you at the M.C.
[UNKNOWN]: Arena on August 7th.
[UNKNOWN]: All right, being night with the 699 by sell what two youngsters in their companies you see as consistent main adventures first.
[UNKNOWN]: Flutter night or breaker trick.
[UNKNOWN]: In my opinion,
[UNKNOWN]: who's ready now, yeah, as far as an in-ring perspective, Fletcher and I, as far as as far as like the identities and who they are, breaker and trick.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, it's it's 50, 50.
[UNKNOWN]: But as far as who's ready now in-ring Fletcher and I. I'll raise you the nine and then I thought it's on summer slim 2000.
[UNKNOWN]: I was 22 years old.
[UNKNOWN]: What happened now?
[UNKNOWN]: No, absent in the chat made a great point, like hang me in page as a former AW World Champion who missed four months, right?
[UNKNOWN]: And he comes back and he spent a good portion of his promo talking about, talking about gardening.
[UNKNOWN]: And then he just disappeared.
[UNKNOWN]: So it feels like he came back, he talked about gardening, and then he just laughed.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: He loves his floral arrangements in his garden, bro.
[UNKNOWN]: He's very, very passionate about it.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
[UNKNOWN]: I can't even make you could be the gardener.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Garden and cowboy.
[UNKNOWN]: I was 32 years old in the show to play some of my hometown of Raleigh, North Carolina.
[UNKNOWN]: Also, what sort of a slam show from the 90s to the early 80s?
[UNKNOWN]: You guys recommend checking out from the 80s and 90s.
[UNKNOWN]: I then 91 or 92 Summerslam comes to mind immediately.
[UNKNOWN]: I love the 93 Summerslam.
[UNKNOWN]: In Detroit, I love 93.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I wasn't Detroit.
[UNKNOWN]: It was the Palace of Auburn Hill?
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yes, yes.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, it was always remember the Palace of Auburn Hill for the Malice and the Palace many years later.
[UNKNOWN]: you remember that to just if you don't you're not in an NBA fan you need to look it up it's it's the biggest brawl I've ever seen breakout at a freaking sports game so every time I think I hear the palace I always think of that first and then I think about Lex Luger in his lane victory there at the end of Summerslam Summerslam 91 you can't go wrong with men Madison Square Garden a lot of big things happened on that show it's a favorite of mine
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, SummerSafe, 2000, I'm looking rock-trible, it's Kurt Angle, undertake a cane, tables out of your chairs with edge-crushed and dullies and the hearties, Benoit Jericho.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, it wasn't a bad SummerSafe, it's not my favorite, 2002's in my favorite.
[UNKNOWN]: I would have held SummerSafe in 1988.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: That was quite the summer.
[UNKNOWN]: It was.
[UNKNOWN]: And, yeah, it was.
[UNKNOWN]: H.A.
[UNKNOWN]: with a 499W could be the coolest thing ever and blacklist Dave and continue his compromise creation with other people glazing their dog ship product I don't think they're gonna blacklist Dave You know Listen, he's got it.
[UNKNOWN]: He's got it.
[UNKNOWN]: He's got to not keep the foot on the fucking neck But he's got to be critical of the product when it's as bad as it was on Monday.
[UNKNOWN]: That's all we ask
[UNKNOWN]: Alright, so we have a, we have a match announcement for tomorrow.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
[UNKNOWN]: My world can be defending her TBS championship against the CMLL Women's Champion Percephity.
[UNKNOWN]: Do we get a title change already?
[UNKNOWN]: I mean...
[UNKNOWN]: I mean... We have her beating B, CMLL Women's Champion.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know what the fuck is going on over there, man.
[UNKNOWN]: Just an odd move, damn well, the shoe was on the other foot.
[UNKNOWN]: Tony would not be having his champion loose.
[UNKNOWN]: No.
[UNKNOWN]: In a situation like this.
[UNKNOWN]: No.
[UNKNOWN]: I love Persephone, but man, I mean, if they take it right away from Maya, after she just took it away from Shita, who just wanted it?
[UNKNOWN]: Hmm, I don't think people are going to be happy about that.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know, but I don't think that's smart.
[UNKNOWN]: Be money with a five months super sure.
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you be money.
[UNKNOWN]: So I need to get an espional limited link to your YouTube TV yet Who do you guys think need to switch shows ASAP my top choice is brown breaker?
[UNKNOWN]: I agree.
[UNKNOWN]: No, it does not work for me.
[UNKNOWN]: It does not work for me.
[UNKNOWN]: I was actually Betaalatexed me Because I responded to one of his tweets and we were going back and forth.
[UNKNOWN]: I said no still doesn't work.
[UNKNOWN]: I've gone through all the steps
[UNKNOWN]: I followed all the instructions and apparently I went to the YouTube TV Reddit to take a look and see if other people were having this issue and there's a lot of people having the same issue.
[UNKNOWN]: So I don't know if they're just slow rolling it out.
[UNKNOWN]: There's a ton of people saying to work for them.
[UNKNOWN]: I can't get it to work.
[UNKNOWN]: So I don't think it's going to.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think it's going to work in time for Summer's lamb this weekend.
[UNKNOWN]: I'll tell you that.
[UNKNOWN]: Hopefully it is.
[UNKNOWN]: Otherwise you got your VPN.
[UNKNOWN]: You can back yourself up there.
[UNKNOWN]: I'll be watching it on Netflix.
[UNKNOWN]: I agree with Brombrackers.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I think you get him away from Obafemi and you put them on separate brands.
[UNKNOWN]: Biggie to win with a 999.
[UNKNOWN]: There may be no parallel, but is there anyone in the rustic space similar to Colin Coward?
[UNKNOWN]: He created the volume as a production company of sports content even getting Jason Timff on national TV I don't care for Colin Coward Don't like him.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't care for him and why would anybody look to model their show after what he does?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I think Chris Van Vleet and Pat McVee are the two benchmarks for what content creation creators won us by it to be AJ with the 499 JD from NY206 the last real pro wrestling content creator.
[UNKNOWN]: I am not.
[UNKNOWN]: I am not you got one sitting right next to me here
[UNKNOWN]: uh... mother lover with the two months i'm convinced that he's will have fun hates me after i skipped it uh... right over or ever after skipped right over me twice in a row ll also rest in peace prowl wrestling all pro wrestling nation not a fan of w w radio uh... yet the wheel i will bring the wheel back on friday brother you will win the wheel again to you will win the wheel i gotta get uh... merch out to three uh... separate winners this week
[UNKNOWN]: But pro wrestling nation is going to be WWE radio from this point on guys.
[UNKNOWN]: There's nothing we could do about it.
[UNKNOWN]: Be money with the 499.
[UNKNOWN]: What's one heel turn and wrestling that surprised you and didn't expect at all.
[UNKNOWN]: The Rockets of our series in 98 and Austin at WrestleMania 17 are two of mine.
[UNKNOWN]: Um, well, the Austin, yeah, I would say the Austin one is his up there.
[UNKNOWN]: He'll turn the genuinely surprised me though.
[UNKNOWN]: Foley maybe in 2006?
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, that might be one.
[UNKNOWN]: Is there one that stands out for you?
[UNKNOWN]: Ah, no, I'm trying to think.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't really pay attention to those things.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: I have to get back to you on that one, bro.
[UNKNOWN]: Sina?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, in the moment, yeah, in the moment, for sure.
[UNKNOWN]: I wasn't, I wasn't predicting that.
[UNKNOWN]: No, that's a good one.
[UNKNOWN]: mother lover with an eye that I know that he could have made their own serious channel by adding their podcast circuit and hosting paper view play streams uh... leaving pro-resignation alone they could have been two different stations said oh my god everything's great uh... yes but then uh... that would leave busted open to criticize their product and they very much wanted to take the criticism away from the airways Edward with a one-on-in-one please that we don't fuck up this solos to call face wishful thinking man they fuck everything up
[UNKNOWN]: AJ body with the 499 WWE wanted to be creative.
[UNKNOWN]: Why not use Dave and bust it open to tell a story and create a carrying cross like pipe bomb on it We could see that in the future and nobody's saying that can happen.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm assuming that'll be the next venture that they do Telly with the third two months BC was trying to tell us and we didn't listen I even forgot Raw was in Detroit last week.
[UNKNOWN]: I couldn't even have got I wouldn't have even gone there.
[UNKNOWN]: What a shame for triple action WWE.
[UNKNOWN]: Listen
[UNKNOWN]: When everybody was shooting on Triple H two years ago we both thought that it was wrong for him to get the amount of hatred that he got because the product wasn't as bad as it was then as it is now now it's very much deserved It wasn't as bad as it was then I don't know what I don't know what everybody is seeing that we're not Tony Vc with a fight all sewage that I'll be attending dynamite tomorrow wearing my TNT shirt.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh boy
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you, hopefully Tony uh, hopefully Tony doesn't quickly shoot away as uh, he did with something wearing uh, I don't yet shirt a few more a few weeks back and he quickly moved the camera away because he knew it was uh, Pout TV with the 1 9 9 9 did y'all catch Grace and Wolves promo on NXT.
[UNKNOWN]: We have to watch it.
[UNKNOWN]: We physically can't do that, obviously, because we're here.
[UNKNOWN]: Hey, Jay with the 49 9 9.
[UNKNOWN]: Neither WWE or AWS giving the wrestling fan their money's worth.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, if you're a psycho,
[UNKNOWN]: uh... you're probably looking at that common in saying you're wrong i'm not in in throughs by anything that we got it right now then i'm supreme with a 10th anniversary hey guys do you think that the host unbossed open radio left to go back to their WW names will bully have to be now known as bubble ray no i don't think that's going to be the case at all
[UNKNOWN]: Well, he's nicknames going to be now Dolph Ziggler and he russles for TNA as nicknames.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, I mean, he was Dolph Ziggler when they had him to John Cena, whatever they was.
[UNKNOWN]: He was.
[UNKNOWN]: Jimmy Fingers, guys, I know you both are not big on both dals, but TV, if you remove the stupid mask and fake care and just have him be himself and put him with Mark Prisco, they got something in common, use Rosen as a heavy.
[UNKNOWN]: a roe when you mean how you said rosin r-roe when is it heavy?
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know what both Dallas and tensions are You know, I don't know where he shows up if he shows up at all We have a yet another match announced for tomorrow.
[UNKNOWN]: Uh-oh Pertoni, Khan Jason's on Tony.
[UNKNOWN]: Come on, sure.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he's he He's obviously coming up with this in real time here.
[UNKNOWN]: He's tweeting about all these new matches There's a three way for the a w national championship.
[UNKNOWN]: Uh-oh
[UNKNOWN]: I'm Dr. A. L. E. L. O.
[UNKNOWN]: Defends Against Jungle Jack Perry and Nick Wayne.
[UNKNOWN]: What do these matches have to do with each other?
[UNKNOWN]: What?
[UNKNOWN]: What do they mean?
[UNKNOWN]: They were just in a ladder match and they failed to win a shot of the international titles.
[UNKNOWN]: So I guess this is their consolation prize.
[UNKNOWN]: They're getting a shot of the national.
[UNKNOWN]: My head hurts.
[UNKNOWN]: This is insane.
[UNKNOWN]: being time what's up, brother, 20 dollars, you guys, Greg show is always what's up with Triple H, the TK will piss him off.
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, does he not give a shit and gave up?
[UNKNOWN]: Is he capable of quality shows like NXT and when he took over for Vince, since Cody finished the story, it's been shit.
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, I listen man, a lot of people are like, his Vince back, he's got to be back sooner than anticipated.
[UNKNOWN]: Some people are even saying that Triple H is fucking reloading the shows on purpose.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know for what reason the stock is down for 50 dollars in the month of July.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know what's going on there.
[UNKNOWN]: Broly with the 499.
[UNKNOWN]: Noise me how women in NXT have matches like they out there trying to prove a point while the main roster.
[UNKNOWN]: They look like they get zero motivation and also by the way to add Broly they go only three minutes.
[UNKNOWN]: Sometimes 10 seconds if you're a Jay Cargill and I jacks.
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: NXT NXT adores their women's division.
[UNKNOWN]: WWE couldn't be bothered to give a shit Give me back shots.
[UNKNOWN]: Solomon also with the one I denied.
[UNKNOWN]: Do you guys think Roman wants to put over anyone?
[UNKNOWN]: No, oh, his family is his family.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's a Bradley with a two who should run creative for me.
[UNKNOWN]: It's punk and Paul him Paul him and sure punk no
[UNKNOWN]: I think when Punk is retired, he's going to settle into an NXT roll.
[UNKNOWN]: I can see that very much from all him and when he when he did the Chris Van Bleed interview say when he was glazing Triple H and putting over Triple H as the only one who could do this job, he said he like, I wouldn't want that job.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Today's WWE because he's got too many masters to answer to.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if he would want the job because he really wouldn't have the total freedom to do what he wants to do.
[UNKNOWN]: No.
[UNKNOWN]: Chris for 99.
[UNKNOWN]: I watch both hell and a sell with Les de Taker from O2 and 15 both men blood in both matches.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, it's just that question.
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you, Chris.
[UNKNOWN]: Yo boy Pete with a 99.
[UNKNOWN]: Did I just saw the Odyssey and damn that uncredits scene where Dr. Doom walks through the portal and rips.
[UNKNOWN]: at the spine at the spine out of telemarkas is crazy choose to my TNT family damn my left early I know I googled if I should sit and wait for the credits and it said I would say believe so
[UNKNOWN]: J.D.
[UNKNOWN]: from Dan Housing's lab, 206.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh my goodness, 499.
[UNKNOWN]: I am the other J.D.
[UNKNOWN]: from that doesn't come from the J.D.
[UNKNOWN]: verse.
[UNKNOWN]: I come from the savior of Monday and at Raw and WWE's lab daddy, Dan.
[UNKNOWN]: You are both cursed.
[UNKNOWN]: Uh-oh.
[UNKNOWN]: Our dynamite reviews will be even worse tomorrow.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: I thought I was already
[UNKNOWN]: Right quannn with a 999 punk is elevated everyone is fitted with since returning to wrestling But I think this might be the best we get out of Cody all things considered after these past years What do you guys think?
[UNKNOWN]: Yes?
[UNKNOWN]: He's gonna work incredibly well with Cody Rhodes Cody just needs somebody like punk to work with because it's just been utterly boring Jeremiah Then I good show are you watching Spider-Man brand new day?
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know what Jason is the next movie I go to see is Oak Street
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'm not seeing spider managers because I mentioned this on my Twitter the other day that I saw the trailer for the Avengers Doomsday movie that's coming out in December and it looks really good.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and Dr. Doom was always a favorite of mine when I was younger.
[UNKNOWN]: And so I asked the question, I said, you know, for someone who really stopped watching Marvel movies for the most part, after the first Avengers came out in 2012, like where should I start?
[UNKNOWN]: If I wanted to make sure I'm all caught up and what I need to be caught up on, and I've been so overwhelmed by like the list of shit that I would have to watch.
[UNKNOWN]: is daunting, so I don't know, but I feel like I shouldn't watch, I don't know, I feel like I shouldn't watch the Spider-Man movie right now, I feel like I should go back and watch.
[UNKNOWN]: I haven't seen a Spider-Man movie since Toby McGuire.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, me too.
[UNKNOWN]: And they were great.
[UNKNOWN]: They were great, but I think there was another Spider-Man before the current one, Tom Holland's a current one.
[UNKNOWN]: But before him it was Andrew Garfield.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I didn't see that one either so I don't know I don't know I'm not planning on seeing Spider-Man the next movie I'm gonna see like he said is the the end of oak street Which I believe is that on August 14th I believe and also I am gonna see this another movie I'm actually excited for did you see the trailer for an acne versus coyote?
[UNKNOWN]: I did it looks very good.
[UNKNOWN]: It looks very you know reminds me of what?
[UNKNOWN]: who frame Roger Rabbit.
[UNKNOWN]: I could see that.
[UNKNOWN]: It's got that vibe to it.
[UNKNOWN]: I could see it.
[UNKNOWN]: But we weren't even supposed to see this movie.
[UNKNOWN]: This movie was never supposed to be released.
[UNKNOWN]: They were going to shelve it or destroy it.
[UNKNOWN]: David Zazlaw was going to fucking piss on it.
[UNKNOWN]: They were going to throw it in a fucking fire.
[UNKNOWN]: And we were never going to be attacked right off.
[UNKNOWN]: And then this company, the studio, catch up entertainment or whatever.
[UNKNOWN]: Say, hey, we'll buy it.
[UNKNOWN]: and it's getting at the atrical release and the trailer actually looked really freaking good and John Cena's John Cena is the main villain.
[UNKNOWN]: He's like the evil head of the Acme Corporation.
[UNKNOWN]: So it's like a map be a silly role form, but it could be something that really kind of takes into the next level honestly, you know, I think it's going to be popular movie.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, so that'll be the end of August.
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, impact entertainment.
[UNKNOWN]: Fight all superstition tribulations.
[UNKNOWN]: Steel Lee All-Russia's catchphrase when people question his booking.
[UNKNOWN]: It's fine.
[UNKNOWN]: No.
[UNKNOWN]: Nothing is fine.
[UNKNOWN]: It's fight for Leo Rush because he's great, but uh, but no.
[UNKNOWN]: Holly, we got what fight I'll see if you have WWE still doing who is underneath the sheet angle with their nails and it could be Elias since they are doing these concert concerts.
[UNKNOWN]: Don't hate me.
[UNKNOWN]: No, it's not like it's not Elias.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I think they've abandoned that hole.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, who's under the sheet?
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
[UNKNOWN]: I wonder if it was going to be Corbyn.
[UNKNOWN]: And then they just decided we'll go a different way of creating.
[UNKNOWN]: I think I think it might be right.
[UNKNOWN]: down to one of the five shout out to Dontoni wrestling soups people media and as always rest in peace Kevin Castle stoney thank you brother as always for being here every single night uh the great charlie with the two-door super judge J.D.
[UNKNOWN]: can you get Bobby Munson as a guest on the show uh i am uh tapped out on guests
[UNKNOWN]: If you want to be over there, I'll happily do whatever he wants.
[UNKNOWN]: Captain Solow at a four.
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you for the emoji cone, Captain Solow.
[UNKNOWN]: My God, Hurricane Fatal, I'll see which I have to stand out and human money's angle is just a reboot of the MFTs in the Lantern.
[UNKNOWN]: But you put it that way, yes.
[UNKNOWN]: It really is.
[UNKNOWN]: West Coast, James at the 2D I'll see which I have.
[UNKNOWN]: You guys, what's your favorite ultra-bridge album?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: I'll defer to you on this.
[UNKNOWN]: Fortress.
[UNKNOWN]: Fortress is their quintessential album.
[UNKNOWN]: uh... captain saw the two-dollar superjazz he even though jacen does have the other side on a spotify playlist i mean i'll give him that it's a great fucking song captain saw the two-dollar superjazz his gimmick could be the green thumb atom page yes it could be atom page loves his uh... his gardening theorist nation for nine and what's up jadies all hoping for some slam delivering this weekend after that awful raw last night do you think that we see zilla fought to this weekend or later
[UNKNOWN]: Um, no Zilla this weekend.
[UNKNOWN]: I do think with Houston and Survivor Series, there could be something to that, just my opinion.
[UNKNOWN]: Tiora is for the 49 then also, what should be the SummerSlam 07 or SummerSlam 08.
[UNKNOWN]: Also, it could Jeff Hardy had been the face of WWE if he didn't leave WWE in 2009.
[UNKNOWN]: I got to look up what SummerSlam she's talking about.
[UNKNOWN]: 2007, 2008.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh wait, I think the 08-1 had the John Cena Batista match.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh wait, had, on to take her edge in the main event, how long it's sell, and Batista John Cena has.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and the Triple H was the great colleague for the WWE Championship.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm sure I block that out of my line.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, I got Robert Peterson with a 99.
[UNKNOWN]: I thank you Roberts.
[UNKNOWN]: Hello guys.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm 27 But I prefer the older WWF Superstars like raise Ramon and Jake to snake and ravishing Rick Rude Who I thought I'd have potential to be world champions one day?
[UNKNOWN]: Yes Smart man you are you've got you've got good taste.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, he does Reggie with a 49 and I J.D.
[UNKNOWN]: Jason Grayson Will a promo that he cuts and I reminded me of a new age punk pipe on me got checking out.
[UNKNOWN]: I guess we got a check in
[UNKNOWN]: Furious with the 49 then I went punk retired.
[UNKNOWN]: I think he runs NXT for the main roster.
[UNKNOWN]: I think people like Becky Seth Bayley undertaker and heyman have good minds thoughts Guys you really put into much of this is gonna write to seven bucks productions and Brian Gordz and rock
[UNKNOWN]: Dingo Barry, the 5J, they just want to sink in donates is over to you for losing your best friend.
[UNKNOWN]: I know what hurts, just know you will see each other again one day.
[UNKNOWN]: He's talking about Picardy, we just celebrated on July 24th, Picardy's two-year passing.
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you, thank you, Dingo Barry.
[UNKNOWN]: Math's been two years.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: And we'll end with this before we get out of here on a tremendous Tuesday night, when I'm the 9th, I need Goldberg vs. Night Jax on the Summerslam card says the mother lover.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm taking Night Jax in that thrilling contest.
[UNKNOWN]: All right, brother.
[UNKNOWN]: We are all done here.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to leave you to sound us off of what was a tremendous Tuesday night.
[UNKNOWN]: You guys killed it with a super chat's 1231 likes and we had up upwards 33300 people in here on Tuesday night.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, all I'm gonna say is this, you know, obviously we spoke a lot about, you know, independent voices and, you know, different options that are out there for you, we have a big weekend coming up next weekend where I know the two of us on our respective platforms are going to be very busy and probably getting very little sleep.
[UNKNOWN]: So this would be a good time to just, you know, keep supporting and just show up, we got a good community of people here and
[UNKNOWN]: You know, come, come hang out with us for a very busy summer slim weekend, come and have to be a lot of content coming your way.
[UNKNOWN]: Not just TNT and then House of Glory on August 7th on YouTube for the first time.
[UNKNOWN]: Hopefully we see a lot of people who are in the chat right now are going to be in the chat that night tuning in.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm actually getting excited as we get closer to that show.
[UNKNOWN]: My goal is that I want people to be more entertained watching the show that night than watching SmackDown.
[UNKNOWN]: 100%.
[UNKNOWN]: I think we could attain that goal.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
[UNKNOWN]: I think that's doable.
[UNKNOWN]: I think it's worth in reach.
[UNKNOWN]: I think we will.
[UNKNOWN]: Very excited about that myself.
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you guys for a great show tonight.
[UNKNOWN]: Furious Nation.
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you to the 49th and I'm brother.
[UNKNOWN]: And Dingleberry again.
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you for the fight.
[UNKNOWN]: I'll super chat.
[UNKNOWN]: Appreciate you guys very much.
[UNKNOWN]: We're going to get out of here.
[UNKNOWN]: I got to take a shower.
[UNKNOWN]: I want to get myself a nice cold drink and play some cold.
[UNKNOWN]: Do you black ops one?
[UNKNOWN]: I am addicted to the old games.
[UNKNOWN]: Being that they just
[UNKNOWN]: But thank you guys very much.
[UNKNOWN]: I got a couple of late ones here.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: We got Dingleberry, sorry, two years late.
[UNKNOWN]: And we got furious nation coming in.
[UNKNOWN]: He says, so I haven't watched the Odyssey.
[UNKNOWN]: But JD, would you recommend it?
[UNKNOWN]: Also, thoughts on Orton, Versino, that no way out 2008 when Orton slapped the ref.
[UNKNOWN]: Go see the Odyssey 100%.
[UNKNOWN]: As far as Orton and Sina, I don't want anything to do with Orton and Sina.
[UNKNOWN]: I was doing a summer step in watch along on my Patreon.
[UNKNOWN]: I actively avoided Orton and Sina matches, because I just didn't give a shit.
[UNKNOWN]: Well as we're at Nincina matches go that was actually one of the better finishes that they've ever done Where he literally just turned and slapped Mike Kiod in the face and Mike you're the call for this wall vacation He saved his title.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's quite genius guys next week will recap Summerslam Gonna be a big weekend right here on Tuesday night again.
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you for a great dream We'll see you all right back here for episode 158 on TNT was you guys later
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