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[UNKNOWN]: You are listening to the flagship I guess with your host, Joe Lanzo Grab a driver, grab a driver, grab a man Kiss you, grab a cherry lips and bag and a shake Say you're one
[UNKNOWN]: And we are live on the flagship podcast.
[UNKNOWN]: I am Rich.
[UNKNOWN]: He is Joe, and we have a huge announcement.
[UNKNOWN]: We have been acquired.
[UNKNOWN]: by TKO, we are now the WWE flagship.
[UNKNOWN]: So congratulations, Joe.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm so excited to talk about Sarah Knight's main event, Fanatics Fest, Activations, Brands.
[UNKNOWN]: We're gonna do it every single week here.
[UNKNOWN]: Amen.
[UNKNOWN]: I am an absolute whore, and if they offer me enough money, that's the dollar figure.
[UNKNOWN]: To do, so I, and this was a question in the discord.
[UNKNOWN]: It's a very good question.
[UNKNOWN]: Like what is what is the line that you would be willing?
[UNKNOWN]: Like, what is the dollar amount that you would be willing to do?
[UNKNOWN]: That kind of show.
[UNKNOWN]: The show that they would need you to do.
[UNKNOWN]: I think there's two different lines.
[UNKNOWN]: There is, what is the amount of money to for them to say, look, we're going to pay you guys.
[UNKNOWN]: You can still talk about our shows.
[UNKNOWN]: Can you be a little nicer?
[UNKNOWN]: You can still kind of do your show, but you got to be a little nicer.
[UNKNOWN]: Because I think there's no way they would pay us.
[UNKNOWN]: Any amount of money to do this show.
[UNKNOWN]: So that's out of that.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not even, that's not even realistic thought.
[UNKNOWN]: in my head of that possibly happening but what does the dollar figured to do the show that they would want that w w radio would want alright so the people even know what you're talking about you're talking about the uh... the newly rebranded
[UNKNOWN]: wrestling channel on serious right now w w radio right so well they call it it's weird in the press release and I did an article for free flexion patron account if you want to get the low down and everything that's going on we'll talk about it uh uh uh more extensively here in a minute but uh essentially they're calling it a brand new series XM radio station but they're basically absorbing pro wrestling nation 24 seven.
[UNKNOWN]: and bringing all the shows that they had on their except for the post show reviews the busted open after dark that they used to do after a dynamite or after raw after smacked down or after t and a sometimes I think a couple times they would do it and we're like we're not going to do anything anymore.
[UNKNOWN]: that that seems to be gone so that show is gone and everything else has been absorbed into this new WWE radio series.
[UNKNOWN]: Well not even not even just absorbed it's the literal station seeing channel number and they're just changing the name to WWE radio which means that WWE has once again entered into a financial arrangement with another national media entity you wrote an article today
[UNKNOWN]: I wrote an article a few months ago on that topic, laying out all of the known national media entities that WWE had a business relationship with, and I actually included serious XM in that article, months before they officially came in and took over and just took over the channel with their branding because of all of the financial tie-ins they had,
[UNKNOWN]: let alone members of the station being on pre-shows or whatever beyond that it was right even more like a host on the show up and down up and down the show we're are are are are WWE
[UNKNOWN]: Well, yeah, Sam Roberts works for WWE, bully Ray works for WWE.
[UNKNOWN]: He's doing the, what's that show called LFG?
[UNKNOWN]: LFG?
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, yes.
[UNKNOWN]: I think it's still around.
[UNKNOWN]: I have no.
[UNKNOWN]: If you put a gun on my head and said, is LFG still around or not?
[UNKNOWN]: I think I might be dead.
[UNKNOWN]: I have no earthly idea.
[UNKNOWN]: Is it still active?
[UNKNOWN]: Who knows who cares?
[UNKNOWN]: What point is he was working for WWE?
[UNKNOWN]: Natalia works for WWE.
[UNKNOWN]: Dave Legreca does WWE pre-shows, Tommy Dreamer at the time was working for TNA, which was in a financial and professional working arrangement with WWE.
[UNKNOWN]: And I might even be forgetting one or two.
[UNKNOWN]: So really, there's not a ton that changes here other than WWE takes over the branding, and now obviously with it being their channel.
[UNKNOWN]: Um, no matter how much Dave LaGreca goes on Twitter and insists that he's still going to be as hard hitting as he always has.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, I'm sure.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, the best way to tell that something is going to change drastically is somebody going on and saying things are not going to change.
[UNKNOWN]: I promise nothing's going to change.
[UNKNOWN]: The true sign of things are changing is you saying nothing is going to change.
[UNKNOWN]: That means things are going to change.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, you know what?
[UNKNOWN]: Well, here's thing.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, on one hand, I believe him because it's going to be the same co-opted entity it was before.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, half of the shows on that channel never spoke about any other wrestling promotion, other than WWE anyway.
[UNKNOWN]: When you're talking about Pete Rosenberg, who we forgot about, another guy who's employed by WWE.
[UNKNOWN]: His show almost exclusively WWE, maybe a mention of M.J. F. here there, because he's housed with him, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Sam Roberts is just 100% of you, WWE.
[UNKNOWN]: He doesn't discuss anything else on his shows whatsoever.
[UNKNOWN]: Many years ago, if you go back 15 years when Sam Roberts was, he was briefly affiliated with Pat Bucks promotion, PWS, doing commentary and such, I think.
[UNKNOWN]: he used to be a more well-rounded wrestling fan, I guess, I don't know what else he watches in this private time, but as far as his professional pro wrestling radio shows, it's 100% WWE, busted open is like 85% WWE, they'll give a little bit of lip service to AEW, usually to bury it.
[UNKNOWN]: They were covering TNA a little bit because Tommy Dreamer was fucking running TNA, and he was on the show.
[UNKNOWN]: So I'm sure the TNA coverage has been scaled back since Tommy got shit canned.
[UNKNOWN]: And you look at the other guy.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, Natalia, what do you think you can talk about?
[UNKNOWN]: I've never listened the one second of it.
[UNKNOWN]: But I can only listen to you.
[UNKNOWN]: You know what?
[UNKNOWN]: Were you like me that when I read that press release?
[UNKNOWN]: I said, huh, Natalia has a pack?
[UNKNOWN]: I had no idea.
[UNKNOWN]: I knew she had one.
[UNKNOWN]: I knew she had a show.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, that is the show that it never gets aggregated.
[UNKNOWN]: It never gets picked up.
[UNKNOWN]: No, does do people just not even bother listening?
[UNKNOWN]: Does she never say anything interesting?
[UNKNOWN]: Like, what has to be on that show?
[UNKNOWN]: Because I never see a clip from it.
[UNKNOWN]: I never see a quote from it.
[UNKNOWN]: I never see anything from that show.
[UNKNOWN]: so like on one hand I believe them like not why would anything change it was basically a w w outlet controlled outlet to begin with with you know about a half a dozen people literally taking money from w w a uh... but on the other hand yeah it's it's almost both protests too much right like oh don't worry like i'm still going to be hard hitting but what does hard hitting constitutes when it comes to table grecca
[UNKNOWN]: It's, you know, tissue soft criticism of bad WWE storylines, the kind of stuff that the fans don't even like.
[UNKNOWN]: That's the kind of stuff he's going to criticize.
[UNKNOWN]: He's not going to be gloves.
[UNKNOWN]: Either he's going to be talking about, you know, Grant and Vince McMahon going to arbitration.
[UNKNOWN]: You think he's going to be talking about WWE business practices.
[UNKNOWN]: You think he's going to be gloves off and really going hard after WWE booking matters that aren't boilerplate complaints that the entire fan base is complaining about.
[UNKNOWN]: Of course not.
[UNKNOWN]: So from that standpoint, maybe we should believe him.
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe he isn't protesting hard.
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe, but I wonder those, that last part that you said there, the tissue soft criticism of things that everybody hates, is that very possible that is what we see change and that gets turned around and we don't do that anymore because even a sponsored entity is probably not going to want you to say, hey, they have nothing going on with going through right now.
[UNKNOWN]: I can't believe they have nothing going on with going through like, you know, because that's
[UNKNOWN]: that a lot of people have been saying or whatever, but I do wonder if that is the same show that's going to be airing replays of what's your story with Steph McMahon and these, you know, fucking Megan, whatever the fuck and Sam Roberts post shows where they have to cavefabe, you know, talk about these, like that is where I do wonder.
[UNKNOWN]: And I'm very fat, I'm fascinated to listen, like I am going to listen to the first day to see how much they allow them to do what they say that they can say and how maybe the fallout, maybe they are saying, yeah, Dave, do your show, we are, we're acquiring this because we want you to do your show that you've been doing or whatever and then maybe he is able to do that.
[UNKNOWN]: But then the first time he says something about a storyline, he gets the, you know,
[UNKNOWN]: from from above.
[UNKNOWN]: Hey, you got to be a little bit better.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, you got to talk about it like this and that that's that's where I'm very curious where it goes is is how much are they's truly going to be allowed to even do that tissue soft them out of criticism because what a terrible show if it's just them like
[UNKNOWN]: giving you being excited about everything you just like.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm sure they're going to be able to criticize to some extent.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think Sam Roberts loves everything that they do, but Sam Roberts is the most, you know, he's, he's Sam Roberts.
[UNKNOWN]: He's not exactly going to be, you know, fangs out.
[UNKNOWN]: He's a fan and he likes it and he's only going to be so hard on it.
[UNKNOWN]: Cause that's just his style.
[UNKNOWN]: But maybe the answer to your question is the coach and bro show, which had been airing on serious with Coachman.
[UNKNOWN]: And Russo and they were let go, not that long ago, and coach strongly insinuated today that, you know, what happened.
[UNKNOWN]: The news of today may have been the reason that they were let go a couple of weeks ago from the network.
[UNKNOWN]: And those are two guys who ever since they interviewed Tony Khan.
[UNKNOWN]: have all of a sudden become AEW cheerleaders, Tony, nicely done, mission accomplished, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Winning over some formally critical media guys and and they've been harsher on WWE really since around that time and
[UNKNOWN]: That's probably the reason that they were booted from the station.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, let's be honest.
[UNKNOWN]: That was this was coming.
[UNKNOWN]: And those were guys that were probably not going to play nice with with the upcoming.
[UNKNOWN]: No matter what you think of coachman and and Russo, Vince Russo is not a man who's going to play nice.
[UNKNOWN]: No.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, so, you know, in Coachman, he's trying to reinvent himself with this straight shooter, Pew, Pew persona where he'll say anything and tell it like it is, like he's one of those guys.
[UNKNOWN]: So, no, that wasn't going to work for their, for their, for their new, you know, overlords here.
[UNKNOWN]: Their new official overlords, even though the reality is it's been their overlords for a long time now.
[UNKNOWN]: We've talked about it for how long.
[UNKNOWN]: So, you're right,
[UNKNOWN]: to what extent will the criticism be allowed?
[UNKNOWN]: And David Grecker, I mean, shame on him.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, you know, he gives that little message that he talks about how he started busted open as a one hour show once a week, and that's true.
[UNKNOWN]: And how he built it on his own, and that's true, too.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, I always forget the name of his original partner who,
[UNKNOWN]: one of the other casualties of, you know, bully rays, rain of terror over there.
[UNKNOWN]: Larry Dallas, the other guy, you know, but it's, I always free that guy's it.
[UNKNOWN]: But yeah, and then it was every day.
[UNKNOWN]: If I can figure out a channel, and it's kind of like, and he's so proud, he said, oh, and now I can't believe we've come so far to where now we're affiliated with the greatest and biggest wrestling promotion in the world.
[UNKNOWN]: And it's like, is that something to be proud of?
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, if a wrestling promotion all jokes aside, if a wrestling promotion, if A-W wanted to come in and buy us out and slap A-E-W on the change of name of our podcast to the A-E-W flagship podcast and I mean, we tell them to go kick rocks, I know that sounds like big talk and people might not believe that.
[UNKNOWN]: But I'm not doing that.
[UNKNOWN]: How can I have the freedom to do what I want to do on this show if I'm being, if I'm in a financial arrangement with Tony Khan, you can't.
[UNKNOWN]: As much as you say you want to and that you can, it's impossible.
[UNKNOWN]: You can't separate the two.
[UNKNOWN]: No.
[UNKNOWN]: And I like what I do.
[UNKNOWN]: I like to show that we do, and we're fortunate enough to be able to be making some money doing what we're doing.
[UNKNOWN]: And again, I know this just probably sounds like big talk, but I would tell them to take a hike, because that can't be what we are then.
[UNKNOWN]: Can't take a... same as if it would be the same as taking a job with a wrestling promotion.
[UNKNOWN]: You can't do that, and then do what we do.
[UNKNOWN]: How can rich go take a job with MLW?
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, I don't know, sitting in on booking or doing commentary, whatever.
[UNKNOWN]: Just, how can I go take a job with, what if Tony called me tomorrow and said, I want you to work with fucking Will Washington doing quality, because I can't take that job, you know, because it didn't, how can I, if I can, but then I can't do this show.
[UNKNOWN]: Right, let's get it.
[UNKNOWN]: Rich can't go book for MLW and then come do the show.
[UNKNOWN]: Rich can't go.
[UNKNOWN]: Rich can't go be a talent scout for New Japan and then you know he can't take like a Gabe Sapolsky type job for for New Japan or for for for Billy Corgan and then come do this job like you got to pick one or the other at that point.
[UNKNOWN]: And that's the situation that everybody at serious is in right now.
[UNKNOWN]: They're in a financial arrangement with WWE.
[UNKNOWN]: Their channel is literally called WWE Radio.
[UNKNOWN]: So look, they probably won't lose it.
[UNKNOWN]: Now look, there was a lot of pushback to be fair.
[UNKNOWN]: There was a lot of pushback to there was.
[UNKNOWN]: And I think that it really comes down to sort of like I said.
[UNKNOWN]: I think there are a lot of people that listen to that show.
[UNKNOWN]: And I listen from time to time.
[UNKNOWN]: They'll be times where I'm driving in the car.
[UNKNOWN]: And I'd like to check you and to see what's going on or whatever.
[UNKNOWN]: And...
[UNKNOWN]: Look, they did talk A, W, sometimes like after a paper view, they would lead off the show talking about, you know, A, W talking about the paper view talking about the that's all going to be gone like you said mjf was a frequent a haunted on that station as well because he has connections with a lot of people there that will probably be no more that's that's probably gone as well, but even when they did talk about to be there was at least a the the the the
[UNKNOWN]: Impression that these guys were telling it like it is a devil of Greco's just a fan and he would always said Bowley look, I'm a fan, you know, I'm a fan first and I you know this thing It doesn't work for me and I Like little stuff like that like again.
[UNKNOWN]: It's is it the criticism that you get on this show?
[UNKNOWN]: No, of course not it's nowhere near what you get on something like this But there were times where he had a little bite he had a little you know edge to what he was saying and and and he was always you know It was always guarded.
[UNKNOWN]: It was always a little you know guarded and you know
[UNKNOWN]: It's comfortable radio for me because this is my favorite company and I want them to talk about this company.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't want them to talk about fucking all Japan and Noah and Frick and Rev Pro and all that stuff.
[UNKNOWN]: I want them to talk about my favorite company.
[UNKNOWN]: I want them to talk about WWE, but I like that they're, you know, those tell it like it is.
[UNKNOWN]: And if something doesn't work for them, they'll say that it doesn't work for them.
[UNKNOWN]: Like, I think that was sort of the impression that was given with busted open and Dave, you know, I think did a good job of building that audience over those years of a guy who will.
[UNKNOWN]: Tell it like it is and if he's got something to say and if he's got some criticism he'll tell you He's he's unhappy.
[UNKNOWN]: He'll tell you you know, he doesn't like it or whatever and I think that the pushback came from Okay, well, that's gonna be gone now.
[UNKNOWN]: There's no way you're gonna do that anymore and I think that's why you had to say Oh, look look look nothing's gonna change nothing's gonna change but it doesn't sound like his audience Belize that because his audience was in the pro wrestling nation and bust it open that audience might not like WWE radio and it's like bust it open is gonna be you know a long side
[UNKNOWN]: the Sam Roberts, you know, raw post show and stuff.
[UNKNOWN]: McMahon's what's your story and in a tail from the town or whatever the fuck the Undertaker podcast is.
[UNKNOWN]: And like that's he and he's right work for the fucking company look and and look, the thing is he's a long time wrestling fan.
[UNKNOWN]: He's older than me, but he came up on the same wrestling.
[UNKNOWN]: He talks about how he loved crock it.
[UNKNOWN]: in the mid-80s and, you know, was a, was an actor, mag, and dirt sheet reader is whole life and all of that, and he really did build that thing from scratch.
[UNKNOWN]: It's just a little disheartening for somebody like that to be, now, it's just be celebrating, being taken over by WWE, like it's a great thing and putting them over as the greatest, it does he not see how that makes him compromised, but I guess some people don't care.
[UNKNOWN]: And that's what's disheartening about it.
[UNKNOWN]: No, you talk about this all the time.
[UNKNOWN]: There are writers and quote unquote journalists in this space.
[UNKNOWN]: I hate to use that term, but in this space, that have openly talked about how their dream is to get a job with WWE.
[UNKNOWN]: And it's like, that's the exact opposite.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't get it.
[UNKNOWN]: I never, ever in a million years.
[UNKNOWN]: Never when we, when we, when we,
[UNKNOWN]: You know, suggested doing that never in my mind had it ever come up that I would be hired by a wrestling company.
[UNKNOWN]: That is never what I want.
[UNKNOWN]: I did not want New Japan to hire me.
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't want WWE hired me.
[UNKNOWN]: I did not.
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't need WWE didn't exist at the time when a WWE got founded.
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't want them to hire me.
[UNKNOWN]: That's not what I
[UNKNOWN]: If I wanted that, I would just stop doing the show and I would probably find an avenue to try to get hired by one of those companies.
[UNKNOWN]: And there's been opportunities that people like you and I could have pound sign if we really, really wanted to.
[UNKNOWN]: Not that I think they would have ever hired us, but at least there were situations where I could have attempted to go for a job and used a connection to whatever, but that's never, ever.
[UNKNOWN]: Never.
[UNKNOWN]: Plus, I'll teach you, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I'll lose land.
[UNKNOWN]: I won't stay, I won't.
[UNKNOWN]: Joe, come up to the Austin offices and have a chat, you know, the flow slam.
[UNKNOWN]: Everybody got the flow slam off an air for a while.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but I mean, you know, it's a flow slam.
[UNKNOWN]: I remember at first being like upset and then being like, wait, I don't want to work for flow.
[UNKNOWN]: So I'm like, I had like two hours of my life where I was like, that's bullshit.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I should admit me.
[UNKNOWN]: And then I was like, wait a minute, I don't want to work for flow.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know what am I talking about.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm moving to Texas to go work for them.
[UNKNOWN]: No, fuck off.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I could see it like real quickly and yeah, no, but look.
[UNKNOWN]: It's just disheartening how now lucky I guess if he wants his job he has to be enthusiastic about it But I get the sense that he really is it's like why is it a good thing he's he presented it in his little statement like it's this great thing that WW oh, but now the greatest wrestling promotion ever has taken over what I built it was almost pathetic the way it like
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's like a little territory guy.
[UNKNOWN]: Something in now, they date, yeah, like you're rolling over and letting them take it over.
[UNKNOWN]: Like I know he doesn't have any say serious going to make whatever financial arrangement they're going to make and you know, he could either fucking sit there and take it or leave and he's not going to leave the thing that he's proud that he built, I guess, but it was just a real, I was just watching him talk through that and I'm like, oh man, this is, oh God, I would never be in this position.
[UNKNOWN]: Never, I, you know, I fucking, yeah, you know, I'll go fucking drive Uber.
[UNKNOWN]: I'll go run a fucking restaurant again.
[UNKNOWN]: I would never be in that.
[UNKNOWN]: I think you couldn't, you couldn't be me to do it.
[UNKNOWN]: But yes, me at the top, how much?
[UNKNOWN]: How much could they pay me for that?
[UNKNOWN]: How much did you do to me?
[UNKNOWN]: To do that show, to do the show that they would want.
[UNKNOWN]: They come to us and say, we want you guys to do the show that you guys do, but actually, we want you to do this show.
[UNKNOWN]: And it would come to you.
[UNKNOWN]: WWE.
[UNKNOWN]: Right, and it would be like, you know, we want you to be more like this guy.
[UNKNOWN]: I can't say we like this guy we like a lot of his style be more like him try to be like that What would the dollar figure be for a Joe lands at a do you know a Sam Roberts type show okay contractually Can I still do this?
[UNKNOWN]: That's that's the difference.
[UNKNOWN]: That's the difference.
[UNKNOWN]: I would say no.
[UNKNOWN]: I would say that's probably got to be an exclusivity So they want me They want my wrestling content to be a hundred percent exclusive to them
[UNKNOWN]: and I have to do a WWE centric show.
[UNKNOWN]: Right, that is also going to be approved by them.
[UNKNOWN]: Because it's genuinely, because it's one thing to do with three-hour show, it just feels like it's the fucking garbage, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it,
[UNKNOWN]: I'd get fired in a month, because I'm too proud and I'm not going to fake opinions.
[UNKNOWN]: Now they might not get the total things out, do what I want here because I'm my own boss version, but they're going to get intense criticism when warranted.
[UNKNOWN]: and it's almost always warranted.
[UNKNOWN]: Just talk about, sorry, Nate's made a bet later on in this show.
[UNKNOWN]: And they wouldn't stand for that and it fire me.
[UNKNOWN]: So why would I even take the job to begin with?
[UNKNOWN]: I'd kill my momentum with what we have here.
[UNKNOWN]: And take a couple of big paychecks before they get tired of me.
[UNKNOWN]: And then I'd have to restart the moment that I have with this.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think I would never be right.
[UNKNOWN]: Everybody would know that you sold out out and that you, you know, like, took care of my reputation.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: I genuinely don't think there's a number.
[UNKNOWN]: And again, when you say things like that, people think you're full of shit.
[UNKNOWN]: But I don't.
[UNKNOWN]: No, well, I mean, you and I both have been in this, you know, we're, we're a little older.
[UNKNOWN]: We're older men.
[UNKNOWN]: We've been through the through the, through the, the gamut here.
[UNKNOWN]: There's shops that I've turned down that I was like, yeah, that would pay me a lot more than I'm baking now.
[UNKNOWN]: But I think I would hate that fucking job.
[UNKNOWN]: So I'm not going to take it.
[UNKNOWN]: And that's, that seems wild to people.
[UNKNOWN]: Some people would say, oh my god, you're so stupid.
[UNKNOWN]: Just take the job.
[UNKNOWN]: But like, like,
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: I want to wake up every day and not dread what I'm doing.
[UNKNOWN]: I want to wake up every day and feel proud of what I do.
[UNKNOWN]: I want to wake up every day and be happy with what I do.
[UNKNOWN]: And sure, am I a little poor because of that probably, but I'd rather wake up more.
[UNKNOWN]: He said, you're rolling in the dough.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know why you try to perpetrate this.
[UNKNOWN]: We all know your cheap, uh, crate you over there.
[UNKNOWN]: First of all, that wife of yours with these heart transplants.
[UNKNOWN]: Number one.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
[UNKNOWN]: And number two.
[UNKNOWN]: you won't even quit this hokey job you're so you basically have to well because of our chance plants they're not as many our transplants you might think that's why get quit the hokey job yeah I don't buy it for one second you get those late model German vehicles no no the late model German is gone
[UNKNOWN]: Well, it was a lemon, so you had to go get something else.
[UNKNOWN]: I've gone Japanese, I've gone Japanese, I've gone Japanese, I've gone Japanese, I've gone Japanese, I've gone Japanese, I've gone Japanese, I've gone Japanese, I've gone Japanese, I've gone Japanese, I've gone Japanese, I've gone Japanese, I've gone Japanese, I've gone Japanese, I've gone Japanese, I've gone Japanese, I've gone Japanese, I've gone Japanese, I've gone Japanese, I've gone Japanese, I've gone Japanese, I've gone Japanese, I've gone Japanese, I've gone Japanese, I've gone Japanese, I've gone Japanese, I've gone Japanese, I've gone Japanese, I've gone Japanese, I've gone Japanese, I've gone Japanese, I've gone Japanese, I've gone Japanese, I've gone Japanese, I've gone Japanese, I've gone Japanese, I've gone Japanese, I've gone Japanese, I've gone Japanese, I've gone Japanese, I've gone Japanese,
[UNKNOWN]: You are people like nobody, sir.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm jobs, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, two and a half, you have two full-time jobs and like a part-time, however you want to phrase it, okay?
[UNKNOWN]: The point is, you ain't foolin' nobody, because you've been creaky, creaky while I crage, for many years on this show.
[UNKNOWN]: We know how you operate.
[UNKNOWN]: You're that guy, you know, you're that guy that's cut in corners, you're going, you're, you're doing your grocery shopping at, uh, at all the, and meanwhile, if anybody caught a glimpse of those bank accounts over there, they faint.
[UNKNOWN]: So you're not fooling anybody, crache.
[UNKNOWN]: You've been trying to, you've been, listen, I don't think it's an act.
[UNKNOWN]: I think this is just who you are.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you just, you just, you just creaky crache, you always been.
[UNKNOWN]: You're not fooling nobody, though.
[UNKNOWN]: Don't let this guy fool you, people.
[UNKNOWN]: Don't let him fool you.
[UNKNOWN]: Creatures rolling in it.
[UNKNOWN]: How do you think he goes to Scandinavia six times a year?
[UNKNOWN]: Come on, that's true.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, those are not cheap trips over the Eagles to Scandinavia.
[UNKNOWN]: He goes marching through Antarctica.
[UNKNOWN]: He's been to Monte Carlo.
[UNKNOWN]: He's been to all these exotic locales.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, don't you have to place that in my car?
[UNKNOWN]: Don't you have a condo in Hong Kong right by the by the on the waterfront there by the casino Singapore.
[UNKNOWN]: No, it's Singapore It's in Singapore.
[UNKNOWN]: See I told like this guy.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm telling you aqua polco three times a year.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, he's aqua polco.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, always You know, completely out of control.
[UNKNOWN]: I even remember what we were talking about, but you know the point is you be taking it like there's having job offers in my life that I that we're gonna pay me more But I ended up turning them down because
[UNKNOWN]: And that's, you know, and I'm sure you bet in that same position as well.
[UNKNOWN]: I know for a fact, you bet in that position before, where it's like, how can make more money doing this job?
[UNKNOWN]: But man, you know, that alarm would go off every single fucking morning.
[UNKNOWN]: And you'd be like, god damn, like, you know, I'd rather that alarm go off and be like, ah, all right.
[UNKNOWN]: What are you?
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, look, even in the context of this show, I mean, we would have many more listeners if we had a harder focus on WW.
[UNKNOWN]: Of course.
[UNKNOWN]: But we don't do it.
[UNKNOWN]: Why?
[UNKNOWN]: Because it would make us miserable.
[UNKNOWN]: So it gets pushed to the third hour.
[UNKNOWN]: Because we feel like we can't completely drop it.
[UNKNOWN]: How can you do this show and not cover WWE?
[UNKNOWN]: You can't.
[UNKNOWN]: You just can't do it.
[UNKNOWN]: And, but we don't want to put the, we don't want to devote the majority of our time to it, because we wouldn't want to do that show.
[UNKNOWN]: We want to, you have to want to do the show.
[UNKNOWN]: I turned on Sarah Knight's main event this week to get it washed for the show and six minutes in I was like I can't do this anymore.
[UNKNOWN]: I have to do this.
[UNKNOWN]: I have to find a way out of this.
[UNKNOWN]: We have to find a way out of this.
[UNKNOWN]: This company is awful.
[UNKNOWN]: It keeps getting worse and never gets better.
[UNKNOWN]: I hate it, but you just, you know, you power through.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't even have to cover to me and it's like we have to look we have to cover them to some point now.
[UNKNOWN]: It's sort of my mission because so many other podcasts out there do a horrible job of covering WWE or just like
[UNKNOWN]: What what WWE radio is going to be you know that sort of sort of there needs to be like somebody out there that does what we do because when we started everybody was doing I don't really sucks you know content, but it's so funny how you know in in the 15 years now It's been weeded out and now like most of these podcasts are pro WWE and and and you know like
[UNKNOWN]: What they're doing in our area, you know, we're content creators and we love creating WWE content It's like shit like that that has become so prevalent in this space now when yeah That was not the case at all when we started so I think we kind of have to do it We have to do some WWE but I'm telling you people for the level of show that we do the amount of listeners that we do
[UNKNOWN]: The length that we do the show, we are at a minimum of what WWE does.
[UNKNOWN]: Compared to what other shows that our size do, we are at the bare-fucking minimum of what we could possibly do for WWE.
[UNKNOWN]: And I really, we can't drop it fully.
[UNKNOWN]: We can't drop.
[UNKNOWN]: But what if we didn't, and other shows like us didn't, and they're not getting any criticism?
[UNKNOWN]: There's that aspect to it too, did I think about?
[UNKNOWN]: You know, some people say they want us to just drop it entirely, but then where's the fair criticism of what they're doing if everyone has that mindset, right?
[UNKNOWN]: It's like, you can't just cut and run with a company that size.
[UNKNOWN]: You can cut and run when it's when it's game changer wrestling, like because it's game changer wrestling, who cares?
[UNKNOWN]: You can cut and run if it's some Japanese promotion that like big Japan.
[UNKNOWN]: When's the last time we talked about big Japan?
[UNKNOWN]: Years, yeah, right?
[UNKNOWN]: So it's like that, but WWE, don't they shouldn't they be held to the fire by someone?
[UNKNOWN]: And that's something that I always think about when my hand is on the remote and my other hand is on my phone to text you and say, I've had enough is no, but if it's not us then who?
[UNKNOWN]: Someone has to be fair about this company and provide some kind of content to people.
[UNKNOWN]: So they don't think they're crazy when they also think it's terrible.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, and then, so there's that standpoint too.
[UNKNOWN]: But to answer question, I don't think there's a dollar figure.
[UNKNOWN]: Now, if they told me I didn't have to stop doing this and they said, would you also, you could do whatever you keep doing what you're doing?
[UNKNOWN]: Keep your weekly show, keep your subscription service.
[UNKNOWN]: That's all your business.
[UNKNOWN]: We just want three hours of your time per week.
[UNKNOWN]: We want you to do a show, and we want you to cover WWE.
[UNKNOWN]: That I would do that.
[UNKNOWN]: I would take that job for almost,
[UNKNOWN]: any amount of money, any reasonable amount of money, but again, I'd get fired in a month rich.
[UNKNOWN]: It wouldn't last because not only would I be too hard on WWE, completely gloves off, not afraid of offending anyone, I'd probably be too hard on the people I work with at the station.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I can't, how can I help myself?
[UNKNOWN]: I have to be me.
[UNKNOWN]: I have to be me, so I wouldn't, it wouldn't make it.
[UNKNOWN]: And I'm not like talking a big game, it's just a truth.
[UNKNOWN]: I just, you know, I've been doing this 15 years, people know the fuck comes out of my mouth.
[UNKNOWN]: How could I, how would they ever retain me?
[UNKNOWN]: It's like we talk about all time.
[UNKNOWN]: If the second I got into a booking room for one of these promotions, I'd be gone in two weeks.
[UNKNOWN]: So you kidding me?
[UNKNOWN]: There's no way I would last in that situation surrounded by people with these horrible ideas.
[UNKNOWN]: Because I have to call out the horrible ideas.
[UNKNOWN]: Get sit there, I believe.
[UNKNOWN]: No, it'd be impossible.
[UNKNOWN]: So anyway, that's, uh, anything else on this radio W. No, I really don't.
[UNKNOWN]: It's just, it's something that more people, I, I, and I've been kind of encouraged that there has been a lot of pushback.
[UNKNOWN]: Now, I don't know if it's enough pushback.
[UNKNOWN]: It doesn't really matter, you know, in, in, in, in, in, in.
[UNKNOWN]: It's going to happen no matter what.
[UNKNOWN]: They're not going to say actually we're wrong.
[UNKNOWN]: We're not going to do totally radio.
[UNKNOWN]: It's going to go back to being prosignation 24-7 and don't worry about it.
[UNKNOWN]: And I said this to the article.
[UNKNOWN]: Like it does not matter if you've never listened to serious sex time, if you don't have serious sex time, if you don't listen to bust it open, you don't want to ever listen to bust it open.
[UNKNOWN]: You didn't care about prosignation 24-7.
[UNKNOWN]: It's not about that.
[UNKNOWN]: It's bigger than that.
[UNKNOWN]: It is more about the absorption of media outlets, by WWE.
[UNKNOWN]: That is the issue.
[UNKNOWN]: And you laid it out a couple of months ago with how many tentacles they have, and all these different media outlets, and all these different spaces.
[UNKNOWN]: And the thing with front office sports, like that is another one that I, that got me really.
[UNKNOWN]: More so than even like the ringer and some of these other ones.
[UNKNOWN]: them getting into a content partnership with the front office sports who was previously writing about the genel grand situation was previously writing about some of the other things going on in WWE now basically does not do any of that and and doesn't write about anything else but WWE and usually pro WWE stuff and like some just generic like PR level type stuff coming out of front office sports when they had a little bit of they had some teeth like that was it that was a site that had a little bit of bite that they have then since absorbed and that is where I really kind of start to notice
[UNKNOWN]: that they are not only just doing like how generic you know we're going to partner with fanatics and we're going to partner with that that's whatever that's just like business one of one but
[UNKNOWN]: these places that maybe have a little bit of teeth, and maybe have a little bit of criticism behind them, and maybe have a little bit of whatever behind them, they're getting in bed with those guys, and those guys, because we're seeing it, and this is not just a WWE thing.
[UNKNOWN]: This is sports, politics, news, like that with it, it's happening everywhere, is that the industry, the media industry, whether it be journalism, whether it be radio, whether it be whatever, is in such a dire straight that,
[UNKNOWN]: You really can't pass up the money in most of these cases and most of these places will take whatever money anybody's going to give them.
[UNKNOWN]: So, yeah, when the door to be comes to, you know, serious ex-events says, hey, here's the amount of money that we want.
[UNKNOWN]: Give us, you know, that pro-esignation channel, serious ex-events are going to say, oh, yeah, of course, yeah, we'll do that.
[UNKNOWN]: They don't care.
[UNKNOWN]: They're not, they're not sitting there debating in their boardroom while that journalistic integrity of pro-esignation 24-7, like that shit doesn't happen anymore.
[UNKNOWN]: You don't even mean the Washington Post isn't sitting there, having it hauling about every single little detail.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, they're integrity and stuff like that.
[UNKNOWN]: We've seen that.
[UNKNOWN]: They'll sell their journalist down a river as quickly as possible and fire all of them, which they did not long ago.
[UNKNOWN]: And the Washington Post, like that happens everywhere.
[UNKNOWN]: So that is not a, it's not a dirty, exclusive thing, but it's something that people should be aware of and understand.
[UNKNOWN]: that it's happening and be angry about it.
[UNKNOWN]: You should be angry that series XM rolled over and died and let there be just coming in by one of their stations.
[UNKNOWN]: Like that's not good.
[UNKNOWN]: We should not want that that cannot be the new normal, even though it is absolutely the new normal.
[UNKNOWN]: And we we're losing.
[UNKNOWN]: We're losing this war.
[UNKNOWN]: It's it's going to be done.
[UNKNOWN]: It's going to be over, but at least I want to try to, you know, hopefully
[UNKNOWN]: You know, other people will, will champion this and celebrate in, oh, congratulations, Dave, I'll congratulate you guys.
[UNKNOWN]: You earned it, you deserve it, don't, don't, I'm not doing that.
[UNKNOWN]: No, I'm more of the, this is a very dangerous thing that just happened.
[UNKNOWN]: And it's going to keep happening.
[UNKNOWN]: This is not the last thing that they're going to, you know, get their grubby little hands on and, and, and purchase an absorb.
[UNKNOWN]: This is, not the last, it's, it's not the first and it will certainly not be the last.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, that's, well, that's, that's really the story here.
[UNKNOWN]: It's not, uh,
[UNKNOWN]: What was the previous name of the channel?
[UNKNOWN]: Pro Wrestling Nation 24-7 or whatever it was called.
[UNKNOWN]: The real story here isn't.
[UNKNOWN]: the busted open station on serious, which was already very heavily skewed towards favorable WWE coverage.
[UNKNOWN]: Now potentially having slightly more favorable WWE coverage.
[UNKNOWN]: The real story here is WWE continuing their strategy under Nick Khan of co-opting major media outlets.
[UNKNOWN]: in the United States, which then, of course, either obscures negative coverage and kills negative stories, like you talked about with front office sports, or controls the narrative with fans like a deal like this.
[UNKNOWN]: And we've seen it over and over and over and it's a calculated strategy.
[UNKNOWN]: That's the big story here.
[UNKNOWN]: Not Dave LaGreca, selling out to do basically the same show that he's always done.
[UNKNOWN]: That's a minor subplot to the bigger story of this larger strategic goal that they have in that, okay, if we can control the narrative, if we can control the media that actually pays attention to wrestling and reports wrestling stories.
[UNKNOWN]: We're in business with the SPN.
[UNKNOWN]: We're in business with front office sports.
[UNKNOWN]: We're in business with serious XM.
[UNKNOWN]: We're in business with a Spotify.
[UNKNOWN]: We're in business with you to go right down the line.
[UNKNOWN]: We're in business with fanatics.
[UNKNOWN]: We're in business with all these entities.
[UNKNOWN]: Then we're able to control narratives.
[UNKNOWN]: We're able to ensure that there's as little negative publicity either from a hard news standpoint or criticism of our product out there.
[UNKNOWN]: That's the goal.
[UNKNOWN]: That's what this is.
[UNKNOWN]: And that's the bigger story here.
[UNKNOWN]: That's it.
[UNKNOWN]: That's yeah, and that's just look out for this.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, it's it's again, it's not going to be the last.
[UNKNOWN]: And I do think that there is You know, something to be said, a rich ladder had a really good, uh, you know, as a YouTube channel, which I'll try to link in the show notes as well, but if you look at rich ladder, forget the exact channel.
[UNKNOWN]: I should plug one rich ladder.
[UNKNOWN]: He's got a very good YouTube channel that I very much enjoy, but he had a a really good thought about this of just like
[UNKNOWN]: And Derby knows that there are conversations happening out there that might not be exactly what they want and their goal is to make sure that those conversations are exactly what they want.
[UNKNOWN]: That's right.
[UNKNOWN]: And that should scare the shit out of you, that they are like, conversations are happening and we're not controlling them, fuck that, we're going to control them.
[UNKNOWN]: That's back, that sucks.
[UNKNOWN]: And that is absolutely what they're doing.
[UNKNOWN]: And they're buying and purchasing this dirty radio because of the 5% of the time that you mentioned that they talk about anything but dirty to be.
[UNKNOWN]: That's it.
[UNKNOWN]: That 5% is why they purchase this thing.
[UNKNOWN]: That 5% of the MJF interviews, the 5% of an A-W reaction show, the 5% of any of that is why they made this purchase.
[UNKNOWN]: Because they can have that 5%.
[UNKNOWN]: No, no, no.
[UNKNOWN]: We'll make that.
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe it will.
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe the, maybe they'll even continue.
[UNKNOWN]: But here's the point.
[UNKNOWN]: Now we all, but now we know it's compromised.
[UNKNOWN]: Right?
[UNKNOWN]: We know it's the mask is off.
[UNKNOWN]: It's serious.
[UNKNOWN]: Like, we knew it was compromised and begin.
[UNKNOWN]: But now we really know it's compromised.
[UNKNOWN]: Rich let a per wrestling is what it is on YouTube.
[UNKNOWN]: So I knew I knew it wasn't a very hard to figure out name, but I wanted to get it right.
[UNKNOWN]: So tremendous, tremendous plug.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, or tremendous guy.
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, don't be, doesn't just want wrestling.
[UNKNOWN]: They want the conversation, too, as the, uh, is the video.
[UNKNOWN]: 11 minutes, uh, while we're through time.
[UNKNOWN]: We love the rich lota he does the intro for the show and that's it us yes, why people don't know that Does the a lot of music for the AEW So we love the rich lota all right anyway I think that's the inside and out of the WWE radio look they
[UNKNOWN]: They went again, they'll keep winning.
[UNKNOWN]: We know that.
[UNKNOWN]: So, you know, what are you gonna do?
[UNKNOWN]: Nothing you can do.
[UNKNOWN]: Hold on one second, Richard.
[UNKNOWN]: You think you can run around like that?
[UNKNOWN]: Do you love this?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you think you can just run around like that.
[UNKNOWN]: You trying to get the pipe?
[UNKNOWN]: It worked live to across the world.
[UNKNOWN]: To millions.
[UNKNOWN]: No, I took that off of there because I wanted to get comfortable with it.
[UNKNOWN]: So I took that off of there.
[UNKNOWN]: I, what, well, okay, we can't discuss mismaging moves.
[UNKNOWN]: Sure we can.
[UNKNOWN]: Literacy, John, there.
[UNKNOWN]: No, we absolutely can.
[UNKNOWN]: I was not sure we can.
[UNKNOWN]: That was not sure we can.
[UNKNOWN]: I was simply being horny.
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't want to get into a discussion about the cats.
[UNKNOWN]: Liter box.
[UNKNOWN]: That little dance you're doing.
[UNKNOWN]: That could work either way for me, I'm not sure yet.
[UNKNOWN]: Try it again.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I don't know if that's necessarily a sexy dance, but it's not a not sexy dance.
[UNKNOWN]: Does that make sense?
[UNKNOWN]: You're being silly.
[UNKNOWN]: You're being a silly goose, and I like that.
[UNKNOWN]: Now it's sexy again, because I like a silly goose.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, all right.
[UNKNOWN]: All right, get up there with your pop-torts.
[UNKNOWN]: All right, beat it.
[UNKNOWN]: Hit the bricks.
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you.
[UNKNOWN]: All right, good pop-torts.
[UNKNOWN]: All right, the light time pop-torts.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, she's a big pop-tart eater at night.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, that's her night time snacking good for her when she's In bed watching her 90-day fiance That's a snack.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I think the brown sugar cinnamon pop-tarts is classic the current addiction so
[UNKNOWN]: That's, that's, that's usually cheesets.
[UNKNOWN]: Is, does she normally go, because I thought it was more of a salt thing, is it has a lot of things now?
[UNKNOWN]: Love things, it's, loves the cheesets.
[UNKNOWN]: Every variety, the white cheddar, the extra, the extra crunchier, we have to fuck that off.
[UNKNOWN]: The toasties, the extra toasties, what you're talking about.
[UNKNOWN]: You think they're, they're burnt?
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
[UNKNOWN]: I have a, I have a fellow, Kurt, a carbon deficient die addict over here who loves everything burnt.
[UNKNOWN]: So yeah, she has a big family, extra toasty, although, I will say the extra toasty not, I don't know what happened.
[UNKNOWN]: They don't taste as well as good as they used to.
[UNKNOWN]: They have a weird funky aftertaste to them these days.
[UNKNOWN]: So yeah, well, hopefully I don't get canceled like we'll last spray for being fun enjoying your wife with my wife and bansering about some, you know, hopefully like your wife attractive.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, how dare you.
[UNKNOWN]: Bansering about it.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, all right.
[UNKNOWN]: Anyway, she's as she's dancing around trying to get your attention.
[UNKNOWN]: She knows what she's doing.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, she knows it.
[UNKNOWN]: He has a little, she's been silly.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, for sure, but she comes down here wearing what she's wearing.
[UNKNOWN]: She knows what she's done.
[UNKNOWN]: She's, she's got some ideas.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, the one kids are the sleepover.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but he's just, the other one just with the headset and the Fortnite.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you would never know.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you would have no idea.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, can't even get him out of that room.
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, uh, the good.
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[UNKNOWN]: Went home looking to friend decide to go home because things got awkward, so damn way too early for that This is yeah, what the fuck like were you you weren't prepared for that you're like well now I got to get my paperwork together.
[UNKNOWN]: I get it my conversations together I thought I had like six more years before we had had those conversations in bluntly Well, yeah, yeah, yeah, it was it's uh, no forget it did the boy the boy knew it was happening to Or see kind of oblivious to it so the dispute was this
[UNKNOWN]: There are watching a movie in the bedroom.
[UNKNOWN]: And the friend was sitting on the floor with the boy.
[UNKNOWN]: And the girl was in her bed.
[UNKNOWN]: OK. And the girl wanted her friend to come sit on the bed with her.
[UNKNOWN]: Right, right, right.
[UNKNOWN]: And they could not rectify this.
[UNKNOWN]: I tried to rectify it.
[UNKNOWN]: I tried to send you over.
[UNKNOWN]: I just sitting down in his den watching the reds and you're told hey, you gotta You gotta solve this problem You're like oh, yeah, so so It's a wonderful infinity.
[UNKNOWN]: We got bases loaded here.
[UNKNOWN]: Are you kidding right now?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, seriously So she wanted everybody up on the bed like you know, and and they wanted to sit on the floor and I was like well You know, I was like girl listen
[UNKNOWN]: Let them, you know, what's the big deal?
[UNKNOWN]: Who cares what they sit?
[UNKNOWN]: She's like, well, it's a floor's hard and it's dirty.
[UNKNOWN]: And I'm like, well, if they want to hurt their butts and sit on a dirty floor, that's their business.
[UNKNOWN]: If they want to swing from the fucking ceiling fan, that's their bed.
[UNKNOWN]: They want to sit in a closet and listen through the door.
[UNKNOWN]: It's just what I, you got to hold back to yourself now.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, I tried to, you know, use reason.
[UNKNOWN]: But they're fucking 10.
[UNKNOWN]: They don't really, it's not going well, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
[UNKNOWN]: So then, because they couldn't work that out,
[UNKNOWN]: They, then she said, well, I don't want to watch a movie anymore and she like put on YouTube or whatever and then so the boy got he left he's like, I'm not watching YouTube and here I was here to watch the movie, but then the girl that came over went with him to his room to watch a movie.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, not not not.
[UNKNOWN]: So then it's just all fell apart, you know, and then the, the, the, they went to go get.
[UNKNOWN]: the girl to say, hey, we're watching the movie in this room now if you want to join us.
[UNKNOWN]: And when they went in, she was watching the movie too without them.
[UNKNOWN]: So now you know, they're watching the same movie on different rooms because they can't get along.
[UNKNOWN]: What's the movie?
[UNKNOWN]: What was the feature tonight?
[UNKNOWN]: It was one of the Harry Potter gimmicks.
[UNKNOWN]: Ah, okay.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know any of them.
[UNKNOWN]: They're watching, they're watching, my kids are watching the Harry Potter gimmicks from the start in order.
[UNKNOWN]: The friend that was over here is a Harry Potter nerd who watched them all already.
[UNKNOWN]: So, yeah, say anyway, then it got super awkward and the guests decided you know what I'm at here.
[UNKNOWN]: This is, I can't deal with this.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm trying to think of if I ever bailed on a sleepover ever in my life.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think I did.
[UNKNOWN]: I think I just toughed it out.
[UNKNOWN]: I never, I never bailed on a sleepable.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, you expect kids to bail on their very first sleep over because they get scared.
[UNKNOWN]: Nah, I would love it.
[UNKNOWN]: But this kid bailed on it because she just didn't want to deal with the brother sister drama.
[UNKNOWN]: Correct, you know what?
[UNKNOWN]: Right, right, right.
[UNKNOWN]: I never had this one that too much, which is nice.
[UNKNOWN]: This one's got the phone already, so she texted her mom.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh boy.
[UNKNOWN]: Packed up her shit and then we had to go wait with her on the porch for her mom to come get her.
[UNKNOWN]: And that was that but I guess that's why I probably never bail because I was like, I don't want to call like because my parents would be like, what the fuck are you calling?
[UNKNOWN]: They're probably doing what you and the deal be a lot of do and they're like, he's out of the fucking house.
[UNKNOWN]: Let's go.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: So if I call, they're like, what, no, we're not coming.
[UNKNOWN]: You're fine.
[UNKNOWN]: You're okay.
[UNKNOWN]: You'll be good or like, or they just went to bed early, too.
[UNKNOWN]: And I don't want to call and wake him up or whatever.
[UNKNOWN]: So yeah, that's I guess with the cell phones and the parents these days, they're probably sitting by their phone waiting.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, see if the kid has anything to say or you know, I think went wrong or whatever, so that probably changes it a little bit sleep over today versus 20 years ago 30 years ago I mean 20 years ago sleep over to six 30 years ago when you were 22 So I'm gonna go sleep all okay, I don't fucking care
[UNKNOWN]: Call on your mom first of the permission, right?
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, this girl's slept here a million times.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, they basically, one of them is sleeping at either this house or their her house every night.
[UNKNOWN]: So this was just a thing where she just couldn't take the fighting between the brother and the sister and the hell out of here.
[UNKNOWN]: It didn't cause any heat because they were hanging out again the next day.
[UNKNOWN]: And now, my kid is over there sleeping there again.
[UNKNOWN]: Like, okay, so everything's good.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, yeah, well, TLB had to work it out because you know me.
[UNKNOWN]: I wanted to go back to my game.
[UNKNOWN]: So I'm like, Sit where I'm gonna fuck you on.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't care.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm out of here.
[UNKNOWN]: So TLB dealt with her afterwards and had to talk with her and it just came down to jealousy She didn't like her friends sit with her brother.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: That's right.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: So the best part about this fall is that the dopey boy had no idea what was going on, right?
[UNKNOWN]: No idea.
[UNKNOWN]: You know what?
[UNKNOWN]: Watch the music.
[UNKNOWN]: Didn't care about anything.
[UNKNOWN]: No.
[UNKNOWN]: Because no idea about the internal drama or the anything, any of the strife going on.
[UNKNOWN]: He just wants to watch the dopey movie and go on with his life.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, because then he came in the den with me and then I grilled him to see what was going on and he's just in outer space.
[UNKNOWN]: Just, I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: I wanted to sit on the floor and she didn't want me to sit on the floor.
[UNKNOWN]: He don't know what's going on.
[UNKNOWN]: Just the pervert representation of men versus women is just a dope boy.
[UNKNOWN]: He's like, ah, I just wanted to sit on the floor out.
[UNKNOWN]: There's feelings getting hurt and everything.
[UNKNOWN]: And he's just confused because the sister didn't want him on the floor for some reason.
[UNKNOWN]: He didn't put it together that there was a jealousy factor here that
[UNKNOWN]: her friend was hanging out with him too much I guess.
[UNKNOWN]: And in their little 10 year old minds, they thought it was acceptable to just go into his room and watch the movie.
[UNKNOWN]: If she's going to be a pain in the ass, we're just going to go watch the movie on our own.
[UNKNOWN]: That was never going to fly.
[UNKNOWN]: That's not what I mean.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that was not a good move by anybody.
[UNKNOWN]: That was a poor move by the friend.
[UNKNOWN]: The friend should have never done that.
[UNKNOWN]: They've gone off with the brother to watch the movie.
[UNKNOWN]: But they don't have common sense or reasoning skills or they just, in their minds, they were like, we wanna watch the movie.
[UNKNOWN]: We can't do it here.
[UNKNOWN]: So let's just go do it next door, right?
[UNKNOWN]: But that was never gonna fly.
[UNKNOWN]: The mind of children, you know, it's the mind of children.
[UNKNOWN]: It's unbelievable, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: They're all bunch of little dopes.
[UNKNOWN]: You know what, really, when it comes down to it, right?
[UNKNOWN]: So.
[UNKNOWN]: That was, well, there you go.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, till we run and begins that.
[UNKNOWN]: Let's talk about later.
[UNKNOWN]: Before we get into the actual meeting potatoes of the rest of the show here, talk about Saturday Night's Men of that.
[UNKNOWN]: We're gonna talk, yeah, you're getting your Saturday's Men of that review.
[UNKNOWN]: You do not worry.
[UNKNOWN]: Rust many weekend is official in New York.
[UNKNOWN]: As well as study Arabia, we'll get talk about what's going on there.
[UNKNOWN]: You're not gonna believe it, there to be announced a show in Chicago the same day as all out in Chicago as well.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, that just unbelievable chances.
[UNKNOWN]: It's unbelievable that happened.
[UNKNOWN]: quote unquote Mike Santana quote unquote debuting in NXT.
[UNKNOWN]: I will preview a w redemption coming up this weekend.
[UNKNOWN]: I'll talk about Noah's summer epic 2026.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, if we have time, we'll catch up on the G1 climax.
[UNKNOWN]: Although there is plenty of G1 climax audio available for you at flagshippatron.com.
[UNKNOWN]: So if we don't get to that, that is five because you're doing daily G1 audio.
[UNKNOWN]: They're only five dollars here.
[UNKNOWN]: at flagship patreon.com.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, we'll try checking.
[UNKNOWN]: But if we can't, that's, that's, that's, that's to the bottom of my list.
[UNKNOWN]: The, uh, new trend checking.
[UNKNOWN]: But I want to talk about this before we get into that because I, I want to make sure that we have time for this because this is.
[UNKNOWN]: When this man passed away, this is one of those ones where people reached out and were like, look, I don't like that somebody pat- how do I say this in the best way possible?
[UNKNOWN]: I don't want this person to have died, but I'm very excited to hear you guys talk about this man's life and this man's career because it's a very flagship coded person that passed away.
[UNKNOWN]: So it's always this weird that we have the same thing too.
[UNKNOWN]: Like I love doing these segments, but I hate the fact that it's because people die.
[UNKNOWN]: You know what I mean?
[UNKNOWN]: It's a very conflicted thing, but
[UNKNOWN]: We got to do it.
[UNKNOWN]: CV-Offie passed away this week at the age of 77 years old.
[UNKNOWN]: I guess maybe last week.
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe it was late last week.
[UNKNOWN]: That's CV-Offie passed away.
[UNKNOWN]: But at 77 years old, and I know you're excited to talk about this as well.
[UNKNOWN]: So let's do it.
[UNKNOWN]: CV-Offie, life, and career.
[UNKNOWN]: genuinely don't know if there's anybody who does this sort of thing or anybody period who can talk as much about CBI fee just off the rip as I can and that I don't know why if you go back into our archives when I was doing match of the week, I think I did a five week series on the WWE career of CBI fee take the
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I did like five hundred and a row taking you a step-by-step through his WWE career because even though it's like a nothing career in the grand scheme and it was basically you know his WF portion of his career is just a series of repackages that failed is basically what his career is, right?
[UNKNOWN]: But I was always fascinated and we'll get into the
[UNKNOWN]: Were you aware that CBI still holds a significant American professional wrestling attendance record?
[UNKNOWN]: I did.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and Hawaii, right?
[UNKNOWN]: The match with Rick Flare, right?
[UNKNOWN]: 15,000?
[UNKNOWN]: That's right, he still holds the Hawaii State record for pro wrestling attendance for his main event, NWA World Title Challenge of Rick Flair.
[UNKNOWN]: That is a fact and it still holds up today.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm sure it wasn't just attendance.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm sure it goes hand in hand with the gate, right?
[UNKNOWN]: I don't see any reason why there'd be a gate bigger than that if it's the, if it's also the attendance record.
[UNKNOWN]: So he was a, he was a star in Hawaii, a big enough star to challenge Rick Flair for the World Title and all that, that big house.
[UNKNOWN]: He worked for, uh,
[UNKNOWN]: 50th state, big time wrestling in Hawaii, in order to do two different promotions out there at different times.
[UNKNOWN]: Got to start in New Zealand.
[UNKNOWN]: And then, of course, off of that, I would have to think partially coming off of that house that it got the attention of Vince McMahon, right?
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think I had nothing to do with it.
[UNKNOWN]: Of course.
[UNKNOWN]: Because that's 85.
[UNKNOWN]: Right, it's 1985.
[UNKNOWN]: Do you have the exact date in front of you?
[UNKNOWN]: Sometimes, the Flair match was 85.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, let me see if I could find
[UNKNOWN]: the exact date or one of us can track down.
[UNKNOWN]: I thought it was like August of 85, but I forgot I'll try to find the exact.
[UNKNOWN]: Because he was the, you know, in the late 70s, he held the Hawaii State title, the NWA Hawaii State title.
[UNKNOWN]: you know, so he had been a significant star in Hawaii for a number of years by the time he had that flare match.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm trying to stall for you as long as I can see.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, one second.
[UNKNOWN]: When I looked at Rick Flare, CB, I thought it would come right away, but it did not because that is the headline that every aggregator went with, all the websites says, don't have to be super star known for Rick Flare match slash Rick Flare few dies at 77.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm
[UNKNOWN]: horrible way to pass away and and it's WWE superstar known for Rick Flair feud passes away that that that that that can't put your name in that no no we need to have this fucking ridiculous headline but anyway there's only there's only one way to solve this
[UNKNOWN]: And that is to use AI so let's see what I got it.
[UNKNOWN]: I got August 3rd August 3rd 1985 August 3rd 1995 A low-hosting famous match between Rick Flair and CBIFiant Hawaii took place August 3rd 1985 event name a hot summer night location a low-host stadium in Honolulu, Hawaii Yeah, the ones who gone a low-host stadium
[UNKNOWN]: torn down.
[UNKNOWN]: This Gemini never fails sir, except the 60% of the time that it fails, but it's up to it.
[UNKNOWN]: And I have to type in like Tim Robinson, are you sure about that?
[UNKNOWN]: And then it gives me another wrong answer.
[UNKNOWN]: And then I have to say yes.
[UNKNOWN]: Um, I don't know if it's fully demolished yet, but that is that is the former home of the, uh, uh, Hawaii, oh, by the way, speaking of, uh, guess you've got tickets to the, uh, huge, huge Mountain West matchup.
[UNKNOWN]: between Northern Illinois and your Hawaii Rainbow Warriors.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's me.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Do you point in the thumbs or point in the thumbs, right?
[UNKNOWN]: I can't miss when when the Hawaii Rainbow Warriors come to face their longtime Mountain West foes, Northern Illinois, the Huskies, you know I got to be there.
[UNKNOWN]: So I will be there.
[UNKNOWN]: Row one, row one for some Mountain West action where the nearest Mountain Range, I think is the Rocky, I think Denver is the closest Mountain Range to where I live.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, modern power, 11 hours away, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: The modern culture of all were Stanford isn't the Atlantic Coast Conference, and I know the Illinois is in the Mount West Conference.
[UNKNOWN]: So, well, if Stanford Wake Forest doesn't get y'all fired up the Saturday afternoon, I don't know what does.
[UNKNOWN]: I believe that Flair Match was actually for Leah Mayevaya though, right?
[UNKNOWN]: I believe that's, yes.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that was 85, so, anyway, that still holds the record.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm getting 12,000.
[UNKNOWN]: And my search is maybe we exaggerated a little.
[UNKNOWN]: Hey, it's pro wrestling who cares about 12, 15 who cares.
[UNKNOWN]: Hey, no one says it has a 24th house in something.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh my god, do they really?
[UNKNOWN]: They do.
[UNKNOWN]: It's his capacity 24,000.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think it was quite 24,000.
[UNKNOWN]: No, no, I haven't seen anything close to 24,000.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, no, it doesn't think it was 24,000.
[UNKNOWN]: But it is the record.
[UNKNOWN]: And
[UNKNOWN]: You know, then a year later, 1986, he makes his way, oh, what did we say?
[UNKNOWN]: It was August, August 35, August 3985.
[UNKNOWN]: Right, so yeah, I've been working a lot of Hawaii through the late 70s and into the early to mid 80s.
[UNKNOWN]: He would bounce over to Portland a lot because a lot of the guys would do that because the shorter flight and everything.
[UNKNOWN]: So it wasn't uncommon.
[UNKNOWN]: So he worked a lot in Portland.
[UNKNOWN]: And then in 86, this is when Vince brings him in.
[UNKNOWN]: But listen, we got to go backwards a little.
[UNKNOWN]: We got to go back to 1984 because that's relevant here.
[UNKNOWN]: So in 83, our boy, Tama, the Tongue Kid.
[UNKNOWN]: The Sam Fatu begins working for McMahon as a teenager, right, with those who have been as uncles and his cousins, right, they were all there at that time.
[UNKNOWN]: Everybody was there.
[UNKNOWN]: Sam, who was there was a very young guy, and so he was there with some of his cousins, and of course his uncles often seek a, and then as we get into late 1984,
[UNKNOWN]: Superfly Jimmy Snoko, of course, is a huge star in WWF, and he becomes though he's quite unreliable rich and I've heard about Superfly, that the Superfly would miss a book in or two, and even if he was at a book and you never knew if he was there or not, even if he was there physically, sometimes mentally he wasn't quite there at that time.
[UNKNOWN]: So he would miss a booking or two, Nancy Argentino, whatever, have it there.
[UNKNOWN]: There was a lot going on with Jimmy Snuka around that time, and Vince was getting fed up.
[UNKNOWN]: So as Vince would become somewhat famous for, he thought, you know what, I don't need Jimmy.
[UNKNOWN]: Snuka, I can make my own super fun.
[UNKNOWN]: I'll make my own super fly up.
[UNKNOWN]: Then with a whole coagun and like sluger, I mean, happened, it was a, it was a Vince thing for sure.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, well, well, we're going to get to that.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we're going to get, that's part of my tail here.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: We don't want to jump ahead too soon.
[UNKNOWN]: So, uh, this was really the first example of Vince saying to himself, you know what, this guy's a pain in the ass.
[UNKNOWN]: And his ego was such the he thought he could just recreate it.
[UNKNOWN]: That's super start making machine.
[UNKNOWN]: with the Tongue Kid, and in this case, and I think this is what caused Vince to think he could do this forever on end.
[UNKNOWN]: It actually worked the first time with the Tongue Kid.
[UNKNOWN]: He became the youngest person in the headline Madison Square Garden.
[UNKNOWN]: Those MSG matches were a big success, but you have to remember, he had charisma.
[UNKNOWN]: He was a very charismatic wrestler.
[UNKNOWN]: Now his career maybe didn't go,
[UNKNOWN]: as planned from that point forward, maybe he didn't become as big as stars he should have.
[UNKNOWN]: But the Tonga kid sort of replacing substituting for Jimmy Snooka plan, that wasn't a failure, right?
[UNKNOWN]: But then in 85,
[UNKNOWN]: He becomes really the most high-profile example of someone who did the reverse of what everybody else was doing.
[UNKNOWN]: While Vince was stealing everybody from Verne Gagne, this guy jumps to the AWA.
[UNKNOWN]: He took the payoff from Verne, and he went to the other direction and left, and then he ended up in the blanchard territory after that.
[UNKNOWN]: So the Tongue kid, full of himself, coming off some massive square garden main events and fused with Roddy Piper and all of this and getting big reactions.
[UNKNOWN]: And so he leaves the WWF for, while everybody else is moving in the other direction, jumping from the AWA to the WWF.
[UNKNOWN]: So in 1986,
[UNKNOWN]: Coming off of that huge record-breaking main event against Rick Flair, Vince decide, you know what?
[UNKNOWN]: I can recreate Superfly Jimmy Snooka for a third time.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: And this time, Snooka was gone for good.
[UNKNOWN]: Tonka, kid is gone.
[UNKNOWN]: He jumped to the AWA.
[UNKNOWN]: Snooka is now gone because he just, Vince couldn't deal with them anymore.
[UNKNOWN]: So, in 1986, he brings in C.V. Offie as Superfly Offie.
[UNKNOWN]: and he debuts him in Madison Square guard.
[UNKNOWN]: This is available, by the way, if you want to watch this, this match is available to watch on YouTube.
[UNKNOWN]: If you just look up CV, I don't know if debut, you can watch it, and it is worth watching.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: He bombs tremendously.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, just does not work.
[UNKNOWN]: He doesn't have the charisma of either Jimmy Snooka or the Tonga kid for that matter.
[UNKNOWN]: The fans reject him.
[UNKNOWN]: The fans rejected immediately.
[UNKNOWN]: I think that's the most important part.
[UNKNOWN]: I think of of, you know, not to interrupt, but it's like very interesting.
[UNKNOWN]: So he comes out.
[UNKNOWN]: And first off, he has like,
[UNKNOWN]: The shaft theme song is his music.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know why even though he's called superfly.
[UNKNOWN]: I have no idea So anyway, he's got the shaft theme song.
[UNKNOWN]: See, it's like There's beat for whatever you and then
[UNKNOWN]: You know, they're not from the island of Fiji super fly offy and it's like the crowd immediately the guy gets in the ring at a meal you hear the blue birds guys are going in and off I'm admitted in the blues are growing and they're growing and then boring chance start and they're just and it never
[UNKNOWN]: gets on track ever from from jump these guys everybody.
[UNKNOWN]: Everybody in the mess is regarding fucking rejected this guy and me though.
[UNKNOWN]: There's nobody cheering no one's yelling for him.
[UNKNOWN]: Everybody is just booing and yelling boring at this guy and they are just over it immediately that they try to do the supervite thing again with this guy.
[UNKNOWN]: It's fool me once, shame on me, fool me twice, shame on you.
[UNKNOWN]: And the fact that he just had no charisma.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, his charisma.
[UNKNOWN]: Whatever charisma he had in Hawaii, it did not translate in the world wrestling federation in 1986 or in 1987.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, for the United States.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think he's very good there either.
[UNKNOWN]: I watched a lot of his stuff recently, and I don't think he's very good there either.
[UNKNOWN]: He, I don't know what happened in Hawaii.
[UNKNOWN]: It just maybe works for that guy on that day or whatever, you know, he worked as a star there.
[UNKNOWN]: I know that.
[UNKNOWN]: Whatever, I don't know what it was, but I watched a lot of his Portland stuff and I saw nothing out of the guy either It was just like this guy's kind of a zilch and yeah, the derivative stuff very much a zilch
[UNKNOWN]: So not only did he try to recreate Jimmy Snooka second time, he straight up build him as Jimmy Snooka's cousin, and remember at this point in time, Snooka was gone.
[UNKNOWN]: Snooka was off to the AWA by then, he wasn't even in the company, and it was very rare for Vince to acknowledge wrestlers that didn't work for him anymore, but he wanted to get this guy over, so he tried to push him as Superfly's cousin, and it just didn't work.
[UNKNOWN]: I think they did one or two tapings as Superfly,
[UNKNOWN]: offy and realized that it was just a total bust and it was not going to work the way that it worked with the Tongue kid and they immediately aborted mission and he became CV offy and slipped very
[UNKNOWN]: into a, into a sort of a, I don't want to say a complete job or, but not not much more.
[UNKNOWN]: Are you sort of a prelim wrestler, then they tried to repackage him with, with a fire blowing gimmick, which did not work either.
[UNKNOWN]: I did a match of the week where he's teaming with King Tonga and Ricky Steamboat.
[UNKNOWN]: King Tonga is,
[UNKNOWN]: is Haku, and they tried an early version of the islanders with King Tonga and CVAfi as a prelim baby face team.
[UNKNOWN]: That didn't really gain any steam at all.
[UNKNOWN]: And in this six man tag, CVAfi debuts this fire blowing gimmick and you could hear Vince Vince is on commentary.
[UNKNOWN]: He's just going crazy for it, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Because that's Vince and that didn't work for him either, so that's like
[UNKNOWN]: repackage attempt to give a attempt to number three at this point.
[UNKNOWN]: And we're, I mean, we're, we're a couple months in.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, I mean, the tag team didn't work, the super fly gimmick didn't work, he's blowing fire, that didn't work.
[UNKNOWN]: And it's interesting because he teamed with Ricky Steamboat, Natmatch, and Vince gave Steamboat the same gimmick five years later.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, too much work.
[UNKNOWN]: Too much work, too much better success, for sure.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I mean, but I mean, he had to come down to the ring with fucking carousine in his mouth and then fucking with a torch and fucking spit fire, but you know, as a literal dragon because he brought him back as the dragon.
[UNKNOWN]: The dragon, yes, he was a literal dragon, yes, like he literally was the real boat.
[UNKNOWN]: The dragon was a dragon.
[UNKNOWN]: with scales and everything else.
[UNKNOWN]: And this is coming off of being the NAWA World Champion and having that legendary feud with Ric Flair in 1989.
[UNKNOWN]: And then he skiddaddleed off to those small North Carolina, where they were, one of those North Carolina revival promotions run by Nelson Royale, or one of those.
[UNKNOWN]: I can't remember which one it was.
[UNKNOWN]: South Atlantic, maybe, or maybe it was the other one.
[UNKNOWN]: You're talking about the way it is.
[UNKNOWN]: But when he left, to me, to WCW.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, what was that one like South Atlantic?
[UNKNOWN]: I think was the one that he went to.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I think it was South Atlantic.
[UNKNOWN]: It think that was Nelson Royals, too, if I'm not mistaken.
[UNKNOWN]: I could be confused about that.
[UNKNOWN]: But either way, you went there for a couple of months just to shake the rust off.
[UNKNOWN]: I know he had been injured and then.
[UNKNOWN]: That was a George Scott one, I remember correctly.
[UNKNOWN]: It might have been both because I think he sold it to him.
[UNKNOWN]: It was one of the Jones.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: I think, yeah, I think it got transferred at some point between the two.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, see if you go look that up while I'm talking, um, if you go through steamboats, cage, match and find it and then pull up the.
[UNKNOWN]: All right.
[UNKNOWN]: So it is, okay.
[UNKNOWN]: We were both, so it's North American Wrestling Association then later renamed South Atlantic for wrestling, founded by George Scott John Ringley and Mike Lamberth.
[UNKNOWN]: in 1990 was later taken over by Paul Jones in Frank Ducic.
[UNKNOWN]: So I don't think this is the Nelson Royal one.
[UNKNOWN]: I forget that.
[UNKNOWN]: No, Nelson Royal had one, too, around that time.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
[UNKNOWN]: The Carolinas.
[UNKNOWN]: That was the Nelson Royal one.
[UNKNOWN]: I'll try to figure that out.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, it makes sense that steamboat would work for Paul Jones.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that makes perfect sense.
[UNKNOWN]: So that actually makes a lot more sense.
[UNKNOWN]: So I knew it was one of the two.
[UNKNOWN]: But then he showed up in 91 as a literal dragon.
[UNKNOWN]: There you go, right around that time, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Same time.
[UNKNOWN]: 1989.
[UNKNOWN]: So the year before, basically.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Because those guys both try to revive Mid-Atlantic once Turner bought WCW and all that.
[UNKNOWN]: and both of those attempts failed.
[UNKNOWN]: There's some fun tapes out there of both of those promotions though, that you know, I'll watch in a middle of the night sometimes.
[UNKNOWN]: But anyway, enough about Steamboat.
[UNKNOWN]: So yeah, he tried to fire breathing gimmick and that didn't work either for CVAFE.
[UNKNOWN]: So later, and I think I wanna say this would have been also 86, Fatu comes back, not,
[UNKNOWN]: not Rakeshi Fatu, Sam Fatu comes back, Tonga Kid, but he comes back as a tag team partner of King Tonga and CBI, this failing Polynesian tag team, underneath Babyface tag team that's just not working.
[UNKNOWN]: So Vince tries them as a trio.
[UNKNOWN]: And that last again, exactly one taping, one match, I think, basically, and what you get, I did match the week for that, too.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: And Vince said, hold on, a tongue to kid as all the charisma here.
[UNKNOWN]: So he takes King Tonga and the tongue to kid.
[UNKNOWN]: He puts them together, recrisis them as the islanders.
[UNKNOWN]: And then a couple tapings later, he changes their names to Haku and Tama and then the rest of history.
[UNKNOWN]: That team goes on to they eventually do a heel turn, join the Heen and family.
[UNKNOWN]: And they become a nice, you know, they're a nice midcard tag team for what, like two years.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
[UNKNOWN]: But here's CV Coffee who gets left in the dust again, right?
[UNKNOWN]: So now this trio doesn't work out.
[UNKNOWN]: That's repackage of what we're on to fourth attempt, right?
[UNKNOWN]: We had the superfly.
[UNKNOWN]: We had the tag team with King Tonga.
[UNKNOWN]: We had the fire breather.
[UNKNOWN]: And then we had the three-man Polynesian team.
[UNKNOWN]: Four attempts to try to get this guy over.
[UNKNOWN]: That didn't work either.
[UNKNOWN]: He goes back to being a prelim wrestler.
[UNKNOWN]: See the offies just a baby face prelim guy at this point totally directionless.
[UNKNOWN]: He is working the house show loops though He is on the house shows.
[UNKNOWN]: He's not always losing either.
[UNKNOWN]: He was still beating some of the other guys on his level like he would beat
[UNKNOWN]: your barrios and your Renee Goulets and people like that, but if he was in there with anybody above his level, like literally anybody, even a smidger, like he would lose.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and that's a lot of the footage that you find is around this time period for CBI feel like Randy Savage and Dino Bravo and the King Harley race, like he's losing all those guys.
[UNKNOWN]: If you look on YouTube for CBI, it's a lot of these matches from this particular job era of CBI, he's career.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: So he's just a baby face random guy on the roster.
[UNKNOWN]: He's filling in for a lot of people.
[UNKNOWN]: I remember like a Jacques Rujogad injured.
[UNKNOWN]: So he was one half of the Rujogad brothers for a while on the road, not on TV, not on TV.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, on the road while he was filling in for guys who were injured.
[UNKNOWN]: And then in a total stroke of it once again,
[UNKNOWN]: almost full circle.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if you want to call it irony or whatever the case may be, but he was always intrinsically linked to the Tongue kid in that Vince went right back to it again and tried putting them together as a three-man Polynesian team, but this time as heels because the islanders were heels at this point.
[UNKNOWN]: So this was early 1988.
[UNKNOWN]: April 20, April 21st, 19 of the, I know the exact match you're going to talk about here.
[UNKNOWN]: April 21st, 1988, another match.
[UNKNOWN]: I did, this is one of the five parts series on CV.
[UNKNOWN]: I did in match at a week.
[UNKNOWN]: This was another one of them.
[UNKNOWN]: So Vince tells him, go get yourself some full body tattoos.
[UNKNOWN]: I want you to be Peter Mayev.
[UNKNOWN]: right I want you to be high chief my event yep yep it didn't work as super fly but what if you're high chief you know what if we try peep why what if we try making a high chief offie in the mold of high chief my event so this guy goes poor mother fucker he goes and gets his body tattooed his midsection his thighs his legs to copy high chief my event
[UNKNOWN]: Now remember, the islanders at this point, they had been a team since 86, they had the short baby face run, they turned heels, and then they had the really good heel run managed by Bobby Heena.
[UNKNOWN]: But now we're into 1988, not act to start.
[UNKNOWN]: Listen, back in those days, you didn't stick for 10 years doing the same, like today's wrestling is completely different.
[UNKNOWN]: Back then, you know, after two or three years, it was starting to wear thin.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: We're out of ideas for you.
[UNKNOWN]: I want you to go to a new territory.
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe we'll bring it back one of these other days.
[UNKNOWN]: But yeah, for now, we're out of ideas for the islanders.
[UNKNOWN]: I want you guys to hit the bricks, you know.
[UNKNOWN]: And it was like, we got to try something new.
[UNKNOWN]: Like, we've wrestled everybody.
[UNKNOWN]: You've already done one turn.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, so the big idea was to go with the high-chief offie gimmick.
[UNKNOWN]: This is repackage attempt number five for CV-offie.
[UNKNOWN]: So they gave you on TV at the superstars taping.
[UNKNOWN]: on March, April 21, 1988, as a three-man team, which is how Toma returns to the company, the same three-man team, except there's baby faces.
[UNKNOWN]: It doesn't work, it doesn't get over, not only that, Toma quits that he- Toma's done.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, after that taping, they do it in New Haven, Connecticut.
[UNKNOWN]: They do this match, it's unsupervised, like I said, it does air-live.
[UNKNOWN]: A great three-man trip, they're against Brady Boone outback Jack and Steve Blackman, which is actually very interesting because-
[UNKNOWN]: It's a great team and on the YouTube video there's a commenter that points out that it's not just like this match is so much behind it So yes, you have Tomo who's so you have the fifth attempt to repackage offie his high chief offie Here's his debut as debut as one of the islanders that you know Toma and how cool come out
[UNKNOWN]: And it's two on three and Bobby he and I think it's gorilla monsoon.
[UNKNOWN]: I think it's gorilla monsoon and Jesse at that time.
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe it's maybe it's Jesse and Vince.
[UNKNOWN]: I forget exactly does the commentary for this one, but essentially they're like, ah, the islanders are going to go two on three.
[UNKNOWN]: That's not going to work for them.
[UNKNOWN]: And Bobby he and it goes, no, no, no.
[UNKNOWN]: We're not going to go two on three.
[UNKNOWN]: We have.
[UNKNOWN]: a special third man high chief offie and here comes this guy with all his body tattoos or whatever so you have the debut of high chief offie you have the final match of tauma is he's about to hit the fucking bricks and then outback jack this is his final televised RF match he's done after this too and Steve Blackman he would not return to daughter of television until survivor series 1997
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's the decade later.
[UNKNOWN]: He, this is his last time on Dode of Television before he comes back as, you know, the lethal weapon Steve Blackman as we know in late 1997.
[UNKNOWN]: So so much happening in this match.
[UNKNOWN]: As, yeah, high chief offy, they try one more, and let's, yeah, maybe this is the re-package.
[UNKNOWN]: It is not, it is not the re-package.
[UNKNOWN]: is not it doesn't get over tomahquits and why didn't you know I'd talk a quity was just like a he's just you know him yeah yeah he just decided he was done yeah very he sabotages own career many times just you know he just couldn't be happy anywhere you know he just couldn't sit still so I don't know I don't know if anyone remembers the exact reason that he
[UNKNOWN]: that he bolted that time.
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe he just knew he's like, this is a dead end.
[UNKNOWN]: This is a six man tag team.
[UNKNOWN]: This isn't going to work.
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe he was just like, my run is over.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, I mean, I assume, what do you think it was?
[UNKNOWN]: The CV-offie thing where he was just like, nah, this is fucking, this is done.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not doing this.
[UNKNOWN]: Look, it's impossible to know.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, he could have, it could have been anything.
[UNKNOWN]: But there's a decent chance that he saw the writing on the wall and said this, we tried this two years ago as baby faces, and it didn't work.
[UNKNOWN]: So why on earth would it work now as heels and maybe he just figured, because what did he do?
[UNKNOWN]: Let's see what he did after that.
[UNKNOWN]: He went to WWE.
[UNKNOWN]: That's, I think then, then he went to the semonesavage or whatever, right?
[UNKNOWN]: So that, I mean, that's why he left.
[UNKNOWN]: He said, all right, well, this goofy thing isn't gonna work.
[UNKNOWN]: I'll just go to WCW, and that was Fatu and Samu, and then he came in as the third, he came in as the small and sourced, so it's funny.
[UNKNOWN]: He left one three man team between another one.
[UNKNOWN]: That three man team, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Right, but it's to be honest, I mean, that the Simone SWAT team kind of worked that kind of rocked.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, kind of rocks for a while.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, that was a really cool gimmick that they had there to manage by Paulie Dangerous Lee and they have a decent little run.
[UNKNOWN]: Now.
[UNKNOWN]: He peaked as a worker as Toma of the Islanders.
[UNKNOWN]: There's no question about that.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, he's one of my, listen, I don't know how many people know this.
[UNKNOWN]: He's one of my favorite wrestlers of all time.
[UNKNOWN]: I know that's a weird person to have as one of your, one of your favorite wrestlers of all time.
[UNKNOWN]: But that time that kid run was awesome.
[UNKNOWN]: The, the Islanders run was, it was, I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: Very underrated, very underrated all time tag team.
[UNKNOWN]: People are gonna think I'm nuts.
[UNKNOWN]: He is one of the best wrestlers of that era in the United States.
[UNKNOWN]: Full stop, Toma of the Islanders.
[UNKNOWN]: Go back and watch that shit.
[UNKNOWN]: That guy fucking rocks, he's awesome.
[UNKNOWN]: He's ahead of his time.
[UNKNOWN]: He is just, there's just a net, there's a vicious, there's like a snap to his work that nobody had in that era, especially in that company.
[UNKNOWN]: I love the Islanders, and I love Toma, especially Toma.
[UNKNOWN]: And then a lot of people think he sucked as the Samoan Savage.
[UNKNOWN]: I disagree, I enjoyed that entire act.
[UNKNOWN]: Now, he had gained some weight and he wasn't as good as the Simone Savage.
[UNKNOWN]: I'll grant people that.
[UNKNOWN]: He did.
[UNKNOWN]: We did that family.
[UNKNOWN]: Everybody in that family.
[UNKNOWN]: They get to a certain age and put on the weight.
[UNKNOWN]: And you can either decide I'm going to become a big guy or I'm going to do whatever I can do to fight it.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, the rock did whatever you can do to fight it.
[UNKNOWN]: It was just I must always work out, but Jimmy and Jay, we see with them.
[UNKNOWN]: They're just like, all right.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I'm kind of trouble now, so that's the end of that.
[UNKNOWN]: So yeah, we should go to the CVP is not part of this family.
[UNKNOWN]: which might be another factor, too, is that these guys are kind of all, you know, that that, that, that, and a wife family, obviously, they, you know, are involved in and in these tag teams and going in and out, and then they're adding this guy who is not part of the family at all.
[UNKNOWN]: He, he is from Samoa, but he is not, he's not one of their family.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, none of these guys were not, no, no, no, he's related to, he's, he's, he's one of the sisters.
[UNKNOWN]: That's why he's a different last name.
[UNKNOWN]: He said he's part of family.
[UNKNOWN]: See, Viafi, I don't think that's true.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh no, oh no, I think it's all about Tama.
[UNKNOWN]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: This is, you know, Thomas slash the tongue to kid.
[UNKNOWN]: This is Jacob Fattu's father.
[UNKNOWN]: Correct.
[UNKNOWN]: Sam Fattu.
[UNKNOWN]: This is just so people are clear.
[UNKNOWN]: This is Jacob Fattu's father.
[UNKNOWN]: He is a cousin of Samu and Fattu.
[UNKNOWN]: And he does, his last name is Fattu because it was
[UNKNOWN]: I got that right, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: I think so.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: She married someone named Fatu, and that's why there's a Fatu part of the wrestling family and the Anowire, whoever you pronounce that part of it.
[UNKNOWN]: So he's on the Fatu part of the wrestling family because, but they're, he is a cousin of all of them.
[UNKNOWN]: No, but you're right.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: CVAFI is at no relation to that.
[UNKNOWN]: He's just a small one guy, but that, that, that, no relation to the rest of the family.
[UNKNOWN]: So Tomma, he made the decision, well, I could be a NIST-3-man team, which probably isn't going anywhere, because CVAFE is a zilch, or I can go work with my cousins in WCW, and go to a fresh place.
[UNKNOWN]: He probably just figured the island their run was up, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Cause he'd been there for like two, three years at that point.
[UNKNOWN]: I was probably nothing more than that, and he probably made the right decision to be honest.
[UNKNOWN]: That doesn't work.
[UNKNOWN]: I've seen only last one taping.
[UNKNOWN]: How could we go to King.
[UNKNOWN]: King had.
[UNKNOWN]: How could we at that time, I believe.
[UNKNOWN]: Pretty much.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, well, well, later.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, they teamed on how she was for a while and they actually had Bobby Heenan take Thomas Place on the road because they had all these matches booked out with against the Bulldogs and Coco will be where.
[UNKNOWN]: So instead of ripping that up, they just had Heenan wrestle in,
[UNKNOWN]: in Fattu's place, and then you're right.
[UNKNOWN]: Then once that ran its course, they just split Haku off and made him king Haku, and then he went off and had his successful singles career, which, and then CV-Affi, was immediately quietly, just quietly and immediately removed from the hean and family.
[UNKNOWN]: They didn't even do an angle.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, so if you were watching TV, the only time you saw, see, a high-cheve offie,
[UNKNOWN]: Managed by Bobby Heenan was in that six-man tag against Brady Boone, Outback Jack and Steve Blackman.
[UNKNOWN]: And then you didn't even get the courtesy of an angle explaining why C.V. Afe was back, covered in tattoos, doing jobs on your local house show.
[UNKNOWN]: They didn't bother.
[UNKNOWN]: They just, when that six-man team broke up,
[UNKNOWN]: they just split them off from the he and family.
[UNKNOWN]: And really at that point, that was the end of his WWF run.
[UNKNOWN]: When that didn't work out, they gave it five different tries.
[UNKNOWN]: And then he of all things became burnt Reynolds stunt double and bodyguard, which probably paid really well to be honest.
[UNKNOWN]: So he left wrestling to go do that.
[UNKNOWN]: And then, you know, pop back up and some small promotions and Indies after that sporadically through the years.
[UNKNOWN]: But that was it for him.
[UNKNOWN]: His run was over the high chief offy thing that flamed out.
[UNKNOWN]: And according to at least Cage match, he only had one other televised match during that era and it was because it was a filial show and they were still airing at the time, teaming with Heenan and Haku against the bulldogs and Cocoa will be where.
[UNKNOWN]: Like I noted,
[UNKNOWN]: So he didn't even pop up again on the syndicated shows or on prime time wrestling.
[UNKNOWN]: It was just that one appearance where Bobby Hean and introduced him as high chief offy.
[UNKNOWN]: And it bombed and that was it.
[UNKNOWN]: And as it turns out, he went and got all those goofy tattoos to look like my of air for one match.
[UNKNOWN]: For one match, yeah, one match.
[UNKNOWN]: Really for what amounts to one match.
[UNKNOWN]: And then, you know, he was gone, you know, just a couple of months later in his wrestling career was over.
[UNKNOWN]: But to me, just a fascinating subject because in that two and a half years, not even a full three years, Vince McMahon tried five different times to get this guy over.
[UNKNOWN]: But when you go watch his stuff, you could see why he didn't get over the guy.
[UNKNOWN]: No, Chris, nothing.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, he had nothing.
[UNKNOWN]: And I think that,
[UNKNOWN]: You know, had, and in that era, you know, after he got tongue a kid over as a replacement for Snuka, he tried it with corporal Kirchner when Sergeant Slotter left, right?
[UNKNOWN]: He tried it with corporal Kirchner.
[UNKNOWN]: That didn't work.
[UNKNOWN]: When Barry Wendon walked out on the US Express,
[UNKNOWN]: He had Dan Spivey working on other cards.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you got blonde hair and you're six foot for it.
[UNKNOWN]: So he stuck him in there when we're in Tanda as the American Express.
[UNKNOWN]: And just, you know, it's like Vince just thought he could just recreate anyone.
[UNKNOWN]: And then like you mentioned, you know, a few years later tried the same thing.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, we don't have whole coagun.
[UNKNOWN]: Let's just slap an American flag on Lex Luger.
[UNKNOWN]: and and try to recreate whole-cogan with luger and then obviously with you know years later with with diesel and razor Ramon and with with double you know double j and and Jesse Jane that's the real double j yeah
[UNKNOWN]: You know, he could probably think of a bunch that were even forgetting at this point where he just, you know, demolition was just him trying to create the road warriors.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, when you look at it from that standpoint, the road warriors hadn't worked there yet.
[UNKNOWN]: A power's a pain when he brought him in.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, he didn't create the power's pain.
[UNKNOWN]: Now they were already a road warrior knockoff act before that.
[UNKNOWN]: But he brought them in as baby faces because a lot of WF fans thought they were the road warriors because they looked like them, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Do you remember that when it came in as baby faces managed by Barry and Von Racheke?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, right.
[UNKNOWN]: and that was a total bomb, and then they did the double turn with demolition, who was Vince's knock-off version of the road warriors.
[UNKNOWN]: So, yeah, there's a million examples of Vince just thinking, just having this ego, and I really think it goes back to Tongue Kid.
[UNKNOWN]: If that would have flopped, I don't know if Vince just has this idea that he could just recreate anybody he wants.
[UNKNOWN]: because he's the, you know, it's all about his vision.
[UNKNOWN]: What he was forgetting is that a lot of these guys, like Corporal Kirchner did not have sergeant slaughter's charisma.
[UNKNOWN]: They see the offy did not have the charisma of Jimmy Snuka or Peter May of air.
[UNKNOWN]: You can't just create these people.
[UNKNOWN]: You can't just take someone of the same race and just create them.
[UNKNOWN]: It doesn't work like that, you know, it all has to be the same package, but it worked the first time.
[UNKNOWN]: So Vince just kept going to the well and trying it over and over again every time he would lose someone that he didn't want to lose.
[UNKNOWN]: So it's fascinating.
[UNKNOWN]: Did it all start with the target?
[UNKNOWN]: Would it have stopped there if he blocked?
[UNKNOWN]: That's interesting question.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: Because this wasn't like a foreign idea across the territory.
[UNKNOWN]: This would happen from time to time.
[UNKNOWN]: But Vince is one of the most agreed just ones of it.
[UNKNOWN]: Like there are times of course, where
[UNKNOWN]: you know, territory guys would think, oh, I'll just make, you know, I lost this guy, but I'll just make another guy in the same mold as the guy I lost, but the Vince ones are the most deliberate like you said, because it was so blatant in some cases where, you know, multiple superflies, the high chief of mafia.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, what, what, what, I mean, more, more obvious, can you be than the high chief of mafia with all the tattoos, right?
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, just just so blatant and so obvious.
[UNKNOWN]: The same exact tattoo, right?
[UNKNOWN]: It's like, he, it's like he sent them to the tattoo
[UNKNOWN]: like we find a diesel and razor-mounting so hilarious, but like that he did that a lot like he literally brought back Diesel and razor-mounting to not know what's gonna notice or no one's gonna care whatever and then like like Because that that gimmick very quickly turned into like oh wink wink nudge nudge We all know that these are not the real guys, but Vincent create those gimmicks thinking that the fan
[UNKNOWN]: He was like, no, my creations are razor-mone and diesel, and that's the people are gonna care about.
[UNKNOWN]: And guess what the fans were like, who the fuck are these guys?
[UNKNOWN]: These are Kevin Nes Scott, all these are razor-mone and diesel, but he is so, yeah, there's a certain complex that he has about this superstar creation and the factory and the start making machine that I will make a new super fly.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't need snooka, I will make a new one and it's like, it doesn't, no, it doesn't work that way.
[UNKNOWN]: It's guys have to be, you know,
[UNKNOWN]: have the total package you can't just make a new sergeant slaughter sergeant slaughter got over everywhere he went because he was sergeant slaughter not because he was a fake military guy you know what i mean but to Vince the fake military guy was what got him over not the fact that he was you know over because he was sergeant slaughter and and from Vince's point of view he's like i'm gonna take a real military guy yeah i'm gonna make my own sergeant slaughter
[UNKNOWN]: And he did it with Kirsner, who was a real military guy, and it just did not obviously work at all.
[UNKNOWN]: The guy was almost immediately a prelim wrestler.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, he tried to put him in fudes with the same people.
[UNKNOWN]: He's having like flag matches with Nicolai Volkov.
[UNKNOWN]: He just didn't work.
[UNKNOWN]: But there's that arrogance with Vince.
[UNKNOWN]: But I think that C.V. Offie, he's got to be the only one who they tried it twice with, right?
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I can't think of anyone else
[UNKNOWN]: I'm trying to think that's how bad I had.
[UNKNOWN]: I can't think of anybody.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, because he really tried so many times in this guy.
[UNKNOWN]: He he he he he he he he saw something.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if it was a challenge to him or he just saw something in this guy Because he had an okay look, but he never like a great look.
[UNKNOWN]: He didn't have a look like an undeniable this guy.
[UNKNOWN]: You have to try to get this guy over.
[UNKNOWN]: So I don't know what it was.
[UNKNOWN]: It probably was just the fact that it failed and Vince just kept thinking.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I'll do it.
[UNKNOWN]: I'll try it again.
[UNKNOWN]: One of them is going to click.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: It had to just be that.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you know, it's funny too.
[UNKNOWN]: We talked about Outback Jack and how that six-man tag was the final match for uh, fought to slash Thomas in WWE.
[UNKNOWN]: and it was the final television match of C.V. Houghie, and it was the final match of Outback Jack, and it was the first match for Steve Blackman, right?
[UNKNOWN]: So, you have all of the first match.
[UNKNOWN]: I was just Steve Blackman, the last one until he would come back into 1997.
[UNKNOWN]: He is the first one.
[UNKNOWN]: He would be the first one.
[UNKNOWN]: I think he had had a couple of others.
[UNKNOWN]: Let me double check that.
[UNKNOWN]: I think he had a couple of other televised jobs before that, but let me know.
[UNKNOWN]: Right, I was under the impression it was just popped in to do a job, and that was,
[UNKNOWN]: Let's see if there will be time until the page match has for us, um, no, you're, yeah, first, Levi's match for Steve Blackburn.
[UNKNOWN]: You're right.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: So, out back, Jack, it was his last match.
[UNKNOWN]: And even he was on, he was a knockoff of Crocodile Dundee.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, that was just, that was just Vince trying to capitalize on Crocodile Dundee, which if you didn't live through that, was like a massive cultural thing that's part of every season.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't explain, but yes.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, I don't know why, but, you know, Paul Hogan as Crocodile Dundee.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, they made like four of those fucking movies, and that was Vince's attempt to capitalize on the Crocodile Dundee phase.
[UNKNOWN]: You can even look at that in some ways as a, as a knockoff gimmick.
[UNKNOWN]: and that poor guy, someone coming into the world of wrestling and he came in, Vince filled his head and made him think he's gonna be this giant star and he went into the locker room, carry yourself like a giant star and that backfired massively on that poor guy who got ribbed relentlessly until they basically chased him from the wrestling business.
[UNKNOWN]: But yeah, that's CV-Offie.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, it's a pretty,
[UNKNOWN]: To me, a fascinating career where, you know, he has that massive, successful match with Rick Flair, a record that still stands today, and then you have Vince McMahon just struggling for a way to get this guy over who, I mean, surely Vince saw that he had no charisma, right?
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, he just had no charisma, and there was even nothing special between the bells and he just didn't pop.
[UNKNOWN]: He just thought of guy who popped enough when he was in the ring or on the screen.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I watched a lot of them.
[UNKNOWN]: I've seen them obviously many times in my life, but you know, when he passed away I decided to watch a bunch of matches and I just never I mean I watched a It doesn't match the only ones that I really thought were any good He had a couple matches of the Randy Savage that were pretty solid because savage
[UNKNOWN]: Savage always was a very giving wrestler he always was so he's bumping all over the place trying to get something out of the guy You can see and then the other one that I thought was okay was buddy Rose now.
[UNKNOWN]: It's like Joe I think you could have a pretty good match with any savage and buddy Rose.
[UNKNOWN]: That's not exactly a huge accomplishment, but Those were the two that I watched that I was like, okay, I guess I could see it But it's like I mean come on.
[UNKNOWN]: It's buddy Rose and Randy Savage.
[UNKNOWN]: You know those are doesn't get much better than those two so
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that was, yeah, weren't exactly the most crazy.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, it wasn't like I saw a match of his and I said, wow, he really, you know, grab this match by the horns and really, you know, really turn this into something like, he got carried a couple times, but everything else was just pretty bad and pretty boring.
[UNKNOWN]: And it's just like a fantastic coincidence that the tag team of the Islanders began and ended, teaming with CVOVY.
[UNKNOWN]: Their first match was teaming with CVOVY and their last match was teaming with CVOVY.
[UNKNOWN]: And the fact that he didn't get over, led to them becoming a team off at that first match.
[UNKNOWN]: And the fact that he didn't get over in the last match led to the team breaking up.
[UNKNOWN]: They, you know, it's just so interesting to think of it that way.
[UNKNOWN]: It's great to talk about his arrest at all.
[UNKNOWN]: No, like, by all means.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, here we go.
[UNKNOWN]: I'll get, uh, and October of 1997.
[UNKNOWN]: He was indicted by, uh, I cannot even pronounce this county.
[UNKNOWN]: Some bread of county in the morning to it.
[UNKNOWN]: Are you regretting to inform me that CBF is canceled?
[UNKNOWN]: Um, well,
[UNKNOWN]: You can decide he was the getaway driver for a robbery robbery burglary and kidnapping carried out in January of 1996 He was subsequently convicted of one count of aggravated burglary burglary two counts of aggravated robbery and seven counts of kidnapping.
[UNKNOWN]: That's too many counts of kidnapping and sentenced to 15 to 40 years in carcilleration following a series of appeals against his original sentence.
[UNKNOWN]: He was released in 2007.
[UNKNOWN]: So he spent
[UNKNOWN]: behind bars, 10 years behind bars, but then he was released back to Samoa.
[UNKNOWN]: Man, get his time.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, get away driver, haven't told you because they should have had a taxi on the internet.
[UNKNOWN]: The wheelman, the wheelman.
[UNKNOWN]: It's good to have been the wheelman.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to get a way driver, come on, that's not bad as you know, you just see that.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's a kidnapping.
[UNKNOWN]: No, like, I would like to know more about the kidnapping.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's, yeah, I mean, who are kidnapping here, right?
[UNKNOWN]: That's rough, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: And was a kidnapping because it wasn't like a,
[UNKNOWN]: Technicality kidnapping did they cross a state line with someone or did they have like a child with their mouth taped and they're risk tied together There's a two different kind of kidnapping.
[UNKNOWN]: You know what I mean like so I don't know if it's a canceled
[UNKNOWN]: He can not think it's a pretty bad one, but that's not right.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, the getaway question driver, you know, that you can get caught up in that that could be a what are we doing a stop right here for a minute Okay, you know, then they get the car with burlap sacks with the dollar signs on it and you're like, well, yes, I didn't want to sign up for this, but Can that get better step on it, right, right, and they they have like one of the bank guards in the car with you right, right, right
[UNKNOWN]: Hey, you know like you're just driving your friends around town and like hey, can you stop at the bank for a minute and then you're like All right, sure, and then they put their Ronald Reagan masks on and grab their burlap sex and you know One thing leads to another and all of a sudden you're the good-a-way driver for a robbery.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, who among us?
[UNKNOWN]: Who among us hasn't had that happen to be honest?
[UNKNOWN]: You know when I was in my late teens I got I was I was unbeknownst to me brought on drunk deals
[UNKNOWN]: that turned out a little bad for sure you know what I mean you're in the car you don't know where your friends drive in you turn around all of a sudden we're in Irvington and he's you know he's buying drugs from some guy on the corner out there yeah and there at a housing project and you're just like why am i here why did you bring me to this i want nothing to do with this you know but you know now you're accidentally part of something i've been i've been a part of that many times until you learn you're like you know what
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: You know the people that you are not getting rides from and you're not getting in the cars with.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you learn over, but you do it once or twice and you go, okay, that's what this guy does at 11.30 on a Friday night.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not going to be with this man anymore.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: So, I can't say that I haven't, you know, accidentally been involved in some, I mean, I can't really get that.
[UNKNOWN]: See, I can't get that.
[UNKNOWN]: I can't get it.
[UNKNOWN]: I can't not be.
[UNKNOWN]: Now, some, you know, maybe some transactions, both two and from, yeah, sure.
[UNKNOWN]: I've been in the car for that.
[UNKNOWN]: I can't sit here and lie and tell you that I haven't been.
[UNKNOWN]: And who am I kid?
[UNKNOWN]: And I was booking bets for like six years.
[UNKNOWN]: So who am I to talk?
[UNKNOWN]: So I've been involved in some stuff unfortunately that I'm not proud of, but so who knows what this getaway driver thing will.
[UNKNOWN]: And maybe he didn't know what was going on.
[UNKNOWN]: Or maybe he was the guy who put the masking tape over the kidnapping victim's mouth.
[UNKNOWN]: Who could say, the man did his time.
[UNKNOWN]: He did 10 years.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, the jury said, because they sent him away.
[UNKNOWN]: So they said, but as he canceled,
[UNKNOWN]: That's, I have the beholder.
[UNKNOWN]: Right, you, we report, you decide.
[UNKNOWN]: That's right.
[UNKNOWN]: What about that?
[UNKNOWN]: Some more gimmick knockoffs in the chat.
[UNKNOWN]: They mentioned the Undertaker, Brian Lee, Oh, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, the fake Undertaker.
[UNKNOWN]: Now, that was more of an angle of, uh, that wasn't like Vince trying to replace.
[UNKNOWN]: the Undertaker.
[UNKNOWN]: That's a little different.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: What do you think of fake cane with, with with, uh, with, uh, Doc, I was, right.
[UNKNOWN]: Some pan, butterman, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, some pan.
[UNKNOWN]: Vicarbons, the fake cane.
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, I got a big more of an angle versus like we are going to replace the Undertaker.
[UNKNOWN]: This would be like if the Undertaker left.
[UNKNOWN]: And they were like, well, Brian Lee's the Undertaker and no one's going to know or or notice that it's not, you know, Mark Calaway or whatever that that's right, right that that would be the one to one comparison that we're talking about here because that that's what they did with off the end that's what they did with several of these other guys is someone with leave and they would just be that gimmick.
[UNKNOWN]: So no, it'd be a great cop if in 1994 the Undertaker was like, fuck this, I'm leaving and I'm going to WCW whatever and Brian Lee was just inserted as the Undertaker.
[UNKNOWN]: So yeah, yeah, yeah, um,
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so I'm sure there'll be some we forgot about, but shortly, CVOF is the only one where it was attempted twice.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it was five overall feedback and just got to be, you know, Vince McMahon, the original Johnny Sack put pot the Corvo in there, you know, you just get to the next guy up a reference that goes right over which Chris, I don't know what you're talking about, so I will just, uh,
[UNKNOWN]: many people popping for that.
[UNKNOWN]: That would be gleefully not a long.
[UNKNOWN]: Has if I'm in a DM conversation with you and Tony Kant.
[UNKNOWN]: So I'll just, uh, not a long.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, they seem to like it.
[UNKNOWN]: So that's nice for doing soprano bits for two and a half days as Rich is like, God, well, my phone stopped going off.
[UNKNOWN]: Why do I have to share an account with this guy?
[UNKNOWN]: All right.
[UNKNOWN]: So that's C.V. Offie.
[UNKNOWN]: There it is, FCB, Offie.
[UNKNOWN]: All right, we have many different ways to go.
[UNKNOWN]: What do you want to do here?
[UNKNOWN]: We have a stick in the world wrestling federation and some of their stuff.
[UNKNOWN]: We can talk about Mike Santana, quote unquote debuting redemption.
[UNKNOWN]: We can go to World of A, W, we can go to Noah.
[UNKNOWN]: What do you want to do?
[UNKNOWN]: We're doing Mike Santana.
[UNKNOWN]: You want to do Mike Santana?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, let's talk about quote unquote Mike Santana.
[UNKNOWN]: So they did.
[UNKNOWN]: Why is it not, they did not claim.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, they did, they did the same thing again.
[UNKNOWN]: We're, we're, we're, we come down.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
[UNKNOWN]: And Victor Joseph goes, oh!
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, who's that book?
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, my god, it's that guy, it's him.
[UNKNOWN]: Hold on a second, he's been on it.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, yes, so how are they doing?
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know, it's like, so this is so weird.
[UNKNOWN]: So it's like on their YouTube channel.
[UNKNOWN]: It's like a newsworthy superstar debut on the next team.
[UNKNOWN]: fuckers.
[UNKNOWN]: He was on your TV five times last year, and one time this year in March is calling Mike Santana, just say it's Mike Santana from TNA, but they, I don't know, I don't know, I cannot get in the headspace of this fucking company.
[UNKNOWN]: But no, he is just, oh, we know who that is.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah, book, it's him.
[UNKNOWN]: Like that's, we're doing that again.
[UNKNOWN]: Like we did with Ricky, and we did with frickin' with evil.
[UNKNOWN]: Same thing, I don't understand.
[UNKNOWN]: Don't debut the guy unless you have his name together and also just fucking call him Mike Santana really we have to come with the different name for Mike Santana He can't just be Mike Santana even though he's been on your television multiple times Yeah, well They want to own his name right.
[UNKNOWN]: They got to give him another name, but why not just have that straightened out before you bring him on Yeah, exactly because then we could come on here and complain that they changed his name as opposed to complaining about They don't have their shit together.
[UNKNOWN]: It's him Yeah
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, it is really bad that they do that.
[UNKNOWN]: It's like what two weeks for Ricky to come up with Ricky Saints, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, wasn't until they did the contract signing.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: They revealed his name was Ricky Saints.
[UNKNOWN]: But if you're gonna do the whole, oh my God, it's him, everyone knows who he is.
[UNKNOWN]: And then he has a different name.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, then that's not who you don't want to be right.
[UNKNOWN]: It's so good.
[UNKNOWN]: Then they act like, yeah, it's very bad.
[UNKNOWN]: But Ryan May is the other one.
[UNKNOWN]: So one of the Sharon point on that one.
[UNKNOWN]: Ryan May is the other one.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, we all know who she is and what she's all about.
[UNKNOWN]: It's like, okay, well, what's her name?
[UNKNOWN]: Wow, we don't know yet.
[UNKNOWN]: So that's not worry about it.
[UNKNOWN]: Ridiculous.
[UNKNOWN]: Ridiculous yeah, this one is now then put him on TV.
[UNKNOWN]: This one's a grigious like not just calling him Mike Santana He's been there.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean if you yeah, so weird Company's so strange, but yeah, so he debuted as it's that guy book you know him.
[UNKNOWN]: It's so Fucking sure you the puns with Naraku too.
[UNKNOWN]: They still do the puns He's got that Naraku's got evil intentions booker.
[UNKNOWN]: It's like come on.
[UNKNOWN]: They just call me evil.
[UNKNOWN]: Just call me
[UNKNOWN]: You don't want to get wrapped up in his house of torture, a booker.
[UNKNOWN]: It's so stupid.
[UNKNOWN]: It got.
[UNKNOWN]: Then just call him evil at that point.
[UNKNOWN]: They do it with broad breakers.
[UNKNOWN]: They would do it all the time.
[UNKNOWN]: They talk about how his dad's Rick Steiner.
[UNKNOWN]: It's like, well, why is he not just broad Steiner?
[UNKNOWN]: Like what the fuck?
[UNKNOWN]: Well, he's a brown breaker.
[UNKNOWN]: I watched a I watched a there was a clip from Dorian real now.
[UNKNOWN]: I would never with a fucking gun in my head never watch WN real But there's an interviewer.
[UNKNOWN]: We're tripply to talk about how he wants brown breaker to not be and he says this line I heard it and I was like, oh, well now I know why he's brown breaker now.
[UNKNOWN]: There's obvious reasons why he's brown breaker not stiner whatever
[UNKNOWN]: But Paul basically goes, I want him to be, you know, something more than just, you know, a Steiner.
[UNKNOWN]: And he says it with such discontent.
[UNKNOWN]: I saw that clip.
[UNKNOWN]: And I'm like, what the fuck's wrong with a Steiner?
[UNKNOWN]: Like why would such discontent, oh, I didn't want to do just a Steiner?
[UNKNOWN]: But then you say he's a Steiner of the entire time he's out there.
[UNKNOWN]: So,
[UNKNOWN]: How is he not, it's, yeah, fucking weird.
[UNKNOWN]: Fucking weird.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, just fucking weird old company.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, they, they, they all have Olympians and then change their names.
[UNKNOWN]: Like, what are you doing?
[UNKNOWN]: Why would you hire an Olympian and change the Olympian's name if the Olympian's gimmick is that they're an Olympian?
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: That's Olympic wrestler insert whatever name we gave him.
[UNKNOWN]: That's like, why don't you do what you're doing?
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: You're killing something that can immediately get them over.
[UNKNOWN]: right?
[UNKNOWN]: You don't want someone to accidentally get over them.
[UNKNOWN]: No, not not not if there's not your way.
[UNKNOWN]: So that hasn't changed with this company as as Vince has been replaced.
[UNKNOWN]: More transaction news though, did you see this one from Tony Khan's conference call today?
[UNKNOWN]: I guess not, you didn't, you didn't, you didn't, you didn't, you didn't, you didn't, you didn't, you didn't, you didn't, you didn't, you didn't, you didn't, you didn't, you didn't, you didn't, you didn't, you didn't, you didn't, you didn't, you didn't, you didn't, you didn't, you didn't, you didn't, you didn't, you didn't, you didn't, you didn't, you didn't, you didn't, you didn't, you didn't, you didn't, you didn't, you didn't, you didn't, you didn't, you didn't, you didn't, you didn't, you didn't, you didn't, you didn't, you didn't, you didn't, you didn't, you didn't, you didn't, you didn't, you didn't, you didn't, you didn't, you didn't, you didn't, you didn't
[UNKNOWN]: good for energy, and our timeello has requested her release, and it has been granted.
[UNKNOWN]: So timeello is a free agent.
[UNKNOWN]: According to Tony, she wants to step away from professional wrestling.
[UNKNOWN]: So we'll see if that's actually true or not.
[UNKNOWN]: They had a good talk.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, okay.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, you know, I believe her, and I believe him, because he doesn't like to let people out of these deals.
[UNKNOWN]: typically, right, because he hates the jumps.
[UNKNOWN]: So if he got the sense that she was being truthful, that she doesn't want to wrestle for a while, I think that might be the only way that Tony would be that amicable.
[UNKNOWN]: That's just, I don't know anything, obviously, but that's,
[UNKNOWN]: That's kind of the vibes I picked up from that story.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I think she's got a young child too.
[UNKNOWN]: So we totally make sense that she would try to do that.
[UNKNOWN]: But is she doing the William Regal?
[UNKNOWN]: I want to go work with my kid and then, you know, because there would be enough.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, she's Corress Illers.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: You can't count out that they're working, but but her husband does work for the man.
[UNKNOWN]: So that would be a little trickier to pull off, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Like, if she pops up in NXT and
[UNKNOWN]: Booker!
[UNKNOWN]: Look at that, it's hard!
[UNKNOWN]: It's hard for the team!
[UNKNOWN]: Oh yeah!
[UNKNOWN]: Especially with Booker.
[UNKNOWN]: I make it as noises that people love.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, no, who is this?
[UNKNOWN]: You can hear this, I don't do you radio, by the way.
[UNKNOWN]: You know that, for SummerSlam, you can listen to Victor Joseph and Booker T. Call SummerSlam.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm your serious accent, Radio.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm the radio.
[UNKNOWN]: A radio call.
[UNKNOWN]: Now listen, if I'm gonna have somebody call wrestling on the radio where you have to be extra descriptive of the action going on,
[UNKNOWN]: Booker T-shirts, all right.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's what you want to hear.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, great.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh damn.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh big Joseph.
[UNKNOWN]: He's in trouble now, Vic.
[UNKNOWN]: Like that's the worst guy possible to call wrestling on the radio.
[UNKNOWN]: He never calls any he doesn't know he doesn't even know where he is half the time.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not even sure he's aware Like a what-out of this matches happening in front of him where he is now who the people are in the ring If you put a six man tag for MNXT in the ring There's a good chance he doesn't know who four the people are.
[UNKNOWN]: He never does anything.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and Vick all this All this calls him out of that cuz book is like oh, I think this guy's got all the momentum in the world Vick and he's like
[UNKNOWN]: He's lost nine straight matches.
[UNKNOWN]: The whole point is that he hasn't won.
[UNKNOWN]: He's like like Vick has to give book or the story lies because Booker's doing the jury law or thing where he just shows up puts the cans on and that's it.
[UNKNOWN]: Like he doesn't watch the TV You don't give him a sheet.
[UNKNOWN]: No clue.
[UNKNOWN]: He shows off it goes
[UNKNOWN]: That's all Cherry Lollard did for 20 years.
[UNKNOWN]: It's show up ago.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh my god.
[UNKNOWN]: What?
[UNKNOWN]: No.
[UNKNOWN]: Look out.
[UNKNOWN]: That was his favorite.
[UNKNOWN]: I knew nothing about the stories going.
[UNKNOWN]: Got Jared to carry everything.
[UNKNOWN]: Got what the actual stories were.
[UNKNOWN]: Did Cherry just edit show up.
[UNKNOWN]: I got puppies, June.
[UNKNOWN]: Look at that.
[UNKNOWN]: a great game, by the way, if you can get it, but that, yeah, I think that's a booker now.
[UNKNOWN]: He shows up and then he'll say something, because booker really tries to be like, oh, I think he's got everything.
[UNKNOWN]: He needs to be the total package.
[UNKNOWN]: It's like, fix like, well, what about his problem last week where he said he does?
[UNKNOWN]: He's like struggling to figure out what his identity is going to be.
[UNKNOWN]: Ah, he's just had a rough patch of it.
[UNKNOWN]: He'll be fine.
[UNKNOWN]: It's like, it's so good.
[UNKNOWN]: But as you know, not Sam Roberts says that's it's the vibes.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, there's so many vibes.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, God, there's vibes.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, because of the vibes, right.
[UNKNOWN]: He's ironically bad.
[UNKNOWN]: That's the idea.
[UNKNOWN]: He's ironically bad.
[UNKNOWN]: George Smith, the sheriff who always posse me says imagine getting him in an Uber and the driver's listening to the critique on that exceeding the right.
[UNKNOWN]: Imagine opening that door.
[UNKNOWN]: Hey, Jim.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: All right.
[UNKNOWN]: Cool.
[UNKNOWN]: out of there.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you know, you wouldn't even know what was wrestling necessarily.
[UNKNOWN]: How would, how would you even know?
[UNKNOWN]: But yeah, you know, so I, look, I don't think that time, mellow is, uh,
[UNKNOWN]: You know, it wouldn't I don't think she's going to screw Tony over here.
[UNKNOWN]: No, she says she doesn't want to wrestle because you know, you know, you know, but also if she jumped to it fucking care of time.
[UNKNOWN]: Ella jumps.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Exactly.
[UNKNOWN]: Like, but Tony would though.
[UNKNOWN]: He was he jumps.
[UNKNOWN]: That's the thing, but like no one else would care.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, you know, it's a total.
[UNKNOWN]: Just you know, just a girl the pure definition of a of a of a of a of a no doubt just a girl.
[UNKNOWN]: So We got we got jags when it's just a guy and When it's just a girl will call him a no doubt how's that?
[UNKNOWN]: Well that stick you think that'll make me say oh that's a she's a
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, I think the connotations going to be that they're like a no doubt or that they're you know That's gonna be it's our own little secret flagship language that our listeners understand right right like Jack is one of ours Two where people will be like he's a jack.
[UNKNOWN]: He's a jack.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't mean that you know So it's not jack off
[UNKNOWN]: We're just knocking his ability.
[UNKNOWN]: We're insulting him in a different way, sir.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, so yeah, because twice a year, someone will say, hey, what's a jag and we have to explain it.
[UNKNOWN]: You know what I mean?
[UNKNOWN]: So this will be our new bit that we have to explain to people.
[UNKNOWN]: I uh, speaking of the word jag and led you mentioned it, I got a text for my mom earlier today.
[UNKNOWN]: She was on YouTube and she got recommended one of our videos because I think she'd listen to the show sometimes on YouTube and it was us talking about how he thed pages as a zilter something like that, and she said, wow, you guys really don't like this.
[UNKNOWN]: Ethan Page guy, you keep calling him a jag and I'm like, no, no, no, no, it's not like it's not exactly what you think.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm like, he's boring.
[UNKNOWN]: We don't like his wrestling, but no, it's like some of the different reasons.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: I think he's a nice guy.
[UNKNOWN]: I have nothing against the man, but she's like, wow, you keep calling him a jag.
[UNKNOWN]: No, no, it's a different so I had to explain her the the jag terminology and then I was like, why am I explaining this?
[UNKNOWN]: Who cares?
[UNKNOWN]: She doesn't care.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, he did annoy me once back in the Twitter date.
[UNKNOWN]: I forget.
[UNKNOWN]: We were having a conversation with someone on Twitter a public one.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, he's stuck his beacon.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he stuck his beacon and he was like
[UNKNOWN]: saying to the wrestler, why do you talk to these dirt sheets?
[UNKNOWN]: Marmar, and it's like, mother fucker first of all, you don't know what a dirt sheet is.
[UNKNOWN]: Number one, that's, that's for starters.
[UNKNOWN]: And have these wrestlers, I think you can see that into what you've been doing.
[UNKNOWN]: You've been doing the DM's too, brother.
[UNKNOWN]: So don't call them out.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, exactly.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Right?
[UNKNOWN]: I got, it took all of our mites not to call that out.
[UNKNOWN]: It's like publicly shaming whoever this wrestler, I don't even remember, it doesn't matter.
[UNKNOWN]: But it's like, yeah, exactly.
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, uh, I love what you guys do.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but now you're ripping somebody for talking to us, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Come on, man.
[UNKNOWN]: Come on, dude.
[UNKNOWN]: Come on, Ethan played by, uh, uh, a Julian.
[UNKNOWN]: Ethan played by Julian or whatever.
[UNKNOWN]: We see you.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, we knew he was blowing smoke when he said that, but that's not the point.
[UNKNOWN]: No.
[UNKNOWN]: No, no, no.
[UNKNOWN]: The point is he said it.
[UNKNOWN]: Now he's ripping somebody else.
[UNKNOWN]: Come on.
[UNKNOWN]: Can't do that.
[UNKNOWN]: Can't do that, Julian.
[UNKNOWN]: All right, we got any other transactions.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, I have to ask Sammy is good.
[UNKNOWN]: Sammy Guevara is good for now.
[UNKNOWN]: Sammy's good.
[UNKNOWN]: There was an uproar because he said new bio and everyone was like, oh, he took it.
[UNKNOWN]: He'd be on his bio, but apparently A.W.
[UNKNOWN]: He was never in his bio.
[UNKNOWN]: So.
[UNKNOWN]: That's, for these people take this stuff a little too.
[UNKNOWN]: In fact, you even even noticed that.
[UNKNOWN]: Makes me question you.
[UNKNOWN]: That's right.
[UNKNOWN]: Why are we paying attention to the page?
[UNKNOWN]: Oh.
[UNKNOWN]: That closely to Sammy Guevara's bio.
[UNKNOWN]: People did it with like they unfollowed like just kind of unfollowed this guy I'm very clever.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm like my god.
[UNKNOWN]: What are you doing?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, maybe he just thought his post were annoying.
[UNKNOWN]: Did you ever think of that?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and that's happened to us like there was one time Where I met him.
[UNKNOWN]: I was a bunch of me one time.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he joined our discord.
[UNKNOWN]: I was like, oh man He blocked us like years ago and I'm like, hey, you know just so you know This is like us and he's like, oh, I know he's like you guys tweets just annoyed this shit out of me So I blocked you, but yeah, I like you guys and I was like, oh
[UNKNOWN]: Right, okay, and that was a great conversation.
[UNKNOWN]: I was like yeah, he's like he's like I love what you guys do But your tweets were fucking annoying.
[UNKNOWN]: So I blocked you and I was like that's the one of the most rational things we've ever heard.
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you Totally fair
[UNKNOWN]: It would happen and it would happen in reverse all the time, like we would block someone and then they would shit talk us and it's like no I just don't want to see your fucking tweets.
[UNKNOWN]: You're all over my timeline and your tweets stink right Really, that's I'm you was the best invention that Twitter every day because I you could mute somebody so it was like the soft block you're like I don't want to see this person ever again But I want them to know that I block them so I'll just mute them Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure
[UNKNOWN]: Anybody else on this, uh, no, no, that's it.
[UNKNOWN]: Those, okay, we covered everybody else, I don't have anybody else.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh.
[UNKNOWN]: No, there's some trials, there's some dirty trials coming up at summer slam, but there is, and the coordinated tweets to announce to you all that you're going to do, all the coordinate tweets, and then it's funny because then Gabe tweets out, it's great to see everybody tweeting about me, it's like, that's a pride man, come on guys, we see what's happening here, it's a pride game, what are you doing, you know, and then and then he did the old, uh,
[UNKNOWN]: if you didn't get picked, be insulted and make sure that it drives you to be better for next time like, you know, the old rice grind style, you know, be insulted.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so they all got their directive to tweet out their tryouts.
[UNKNOWN]: And then, that's great to see everybody come on kid, tweet out their tryouts.
[UNKNOWN]: See, everybody interesting on that list, though.
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, not really.
[UNKNOWN]: Titus Alexander is fine if they want to... Who was it?
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, let me see the whole summer slam tryouts.
[UNKNOWN]: Thought there was somebody that I, um... Oh, Josh Bishop would be interesting.
[UNKNOWN]: There he's not good at all, so I don't know like like he's interesting like I would book him and I do something with him But he's not that good so I get why nobody does but also So yeah, he was the one where right when this skyscrapers come back together We're gonna lose another one right when Bishop Dwyer Bishop but Dwyer comes back.
[UNKNOWN]: I know they're taking the skyscrapers there there and now they're taking another skyscraper
[UNKNOWN]: What's Donovan die Jack gonna do?
[UNKNOWN]: He's out of guys that are taller than six, five to team with.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: In ML dub.
[UNKNOWN]: J. Rod is an interesting one from the women's ranks.
[UNKNOWN]: I think she'll get hired there.
[UNKNOWN]: She's got to look that they would adore.
[UNKNOWN]: So, she's not that she's an okay worker.
[UNKNOWN]: She probably needs to work with better people more often, but I could see J. Rod getting the, getting the kid on J. Rod acknowledges Julio Rodriguez, I see Adam Harris, right?
[UNKNOWN]: That's my J-Rod.
[UNKNOWN]: Who was the, uh, K-Rod?
[UNKNOWN]: K-Rod was the Angels one.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, the Closer.
[UNKNOWN]: Friends, Cisco, Rodriguez.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: K for strikeout.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Get it?
[UNKNOWN]: I do.
[UNKNOWN]: K-Rod.
[UNKNOWN]: That was a fun run.
[UNKNOWN]: He had a fun little run.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, that's it.
[UNKNOWN]: All right.
[UNKNOWN]: We're not done with the show yet.
[UNKNOWN]: We got plenty of other topics to get to.
[UNKNOWN]: All right.
[UNKNOWN]: Now I will spin the wheel again, Joe, where do you want to go?
[UNKNOWN]: We got Sarah Knight's min event.
[UNKNOWN]: Rust many weekend in New York all out weekend redemption spin in the wheel coal miners.
[UNKNOWN]: Glove man.
[UNKNOWN]: We're shot see black arts in the house through for her annual Halloween havoc.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, devilish game.
[UNKNOWN]: Let's play a devilish game.
[UNKNOWN]: come to my graveyard of ours.
[UNKNOWN]: Wow.
[UNKNOWN]: She's still doing this.
[UNKNOWN]: I know, it's the entire gimmick is I like Halloween.
[UNKNOWN]: It is the gimmick.
[UNKNOWN]: The Halloween is my favorite holiday.
[UNKNOWN]: Is her entire gimmick.
[UNKNOWN]: Remember what's a little, we're helmet with the little horns got stolen and she went to Twitter to try to find out.
[UNKNOWN]: Do you remember that?
[UNKNOWN]: I wish you didn't laugh.
[UNKNOWN]: It sucks to get like lose your gear.
[UNKNOWN]: No, that would be brutal.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that would be brutal.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, like if he wrestlers, people steal their shit out of their cars, and it's like, come on, miss.
[UNKNOWN]: I made like 50 bucks tonight.
[UNKNOWN]: Like, what are you stealing shit from me for?
[UNKNOWN]: Smash and grab to take the helmet with the little horns, come on.
[UNKNOWN]: Had that custom made.
[UNKNOWN]: did she get another helmet with little.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, she's like, I think she did.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: She's got one of no double.
[UNKNOWN]: Because when she, uh, she resurrected, uh, cruel out of the, uh, forest, the segment that you have not watched yet, uh, in her backpack or helmet was there.
[UNKNOWN]: And she went, uh, I'm a little bit of a, a little bit of a, a little bit of a, a little bit of a, a little bit of a wink.
[UNKNOWN]: A little bit of a, a little bit of a, a little bit of a, a little bit of a, a little bit of a, a little bit of a, a little bit of a, a little bit of a, a little bit of a, a little bit of a, a little bit of a, a little bit of a, a little bit of a, a little bit of a, a little bit of a, a little bit of a, a little bit of a, a little bit of
[UNKNOWN]: The contra-merks just wouldn't be the same if she didn't have the helmet with no, no, no, no, if it's the motif of the mercenaries Yeah, I cannot lose we have Contra black of red.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I can't believe it's crazy ridiculous utterly ridiculous.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't want all contra let alone two contrasts
[UNKNOWN]: I don't even know who's in contra anymore.
[UNKNOWN]: It's like who she did open the world more up to guys.
[UNKNOWN]: I think right But yeah, we have contra Merks is what's his face?
[UNKNOWN]: Is he still not that?
[UNKNOWN]: That's semiale I know he's kind of the overseer, but what's his face?
[UNKNOWN]: Akira Kuan is your hero Kuan still?
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know when he shows up to a taping.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean he is but he isn't I don't know what's going yeah, but
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: We have spin off contra now.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: All right.
[UNKNOWN]: Let's sell.
[UNKNOWN]: Let's spin this wheel here.
[UNKNOWN]: All right.
[UNKNOWN]: Let's add land and on certain it's made of that.
[UNKNOWN]: So let's talk about certain it's not that get this over with.
[UNKNOWN]: And we can move on.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: These shows.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't understand.
[UNKNOWN]: why anybody would watch any of these shows ever.
[UNKNOWN]: And this one I thought that had like there was like two matches I actually kind of sort of enjoyed on this show, but ultimately I'm just not understanding why anybody would really do watch this.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, speaking of the Blanchard territory, I was watching some blood baths on the Saturday night to made event, this was, you know, I felt like I was watching the, you know, the Bushwatt, the sheeperters versus,
[UNKNOWN]: I thought you were talking about that.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, the Blanchard tear absolutely.
[UNKNOWN]: That's what I felt like I was watching here.
[UNKNOWN]: We were getting people busted open left and right on this show.
[UNKNOWN]: We were, we were.
[UNKNOWN]: So yeah, it opened with an internally long video and a run down to every single match.
[UNKNOWN]: Classic WWE programming, where it's like 27 minutes into the show before the first bell rings.
[UNKNOWN]: It's like, what the fuck is this?
[UNKNOWN]: People walking, dragging their wheelies in case it's behind them.
[UNKNOWN]: This was the point where I was like, I don't want to do this anymore.
[UNKNOWN]: And no, we don't even get to listen to Obsession anymore because at least like, Joe Tess doing these while Obsession played in the background, I was like, ah, you know, it could be worse.
[UNKNOWN]: Cause that's a good song.
[UNKNOWN]: That's a great song.
[UNKNOWN]: You can talk about Joe Tess.
[UNKNOWN]: He really, this is so beneath him.
[UNKNOWN]: It is, it really is.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, at first it was kind of, you know, gimmicky and, oh, look, he's calling Monday night raw or whatever, and it's like, now this is just straight up beneath him, like standing out of podium with, uh, with Steph McMahon host of, uh,
[UNKNOWN]: What's your story?
[UNKNOWN]: Host of Gracias with Steph McMan And uh, it just feels...
[UNKNOWN]: Probably he doesn't know what Steph McMan Yeah, yeah, yeah Why doesn't he just like take the night off and go hang out with his wife?
[UNKNOWN]: He doesn't have to do I mean he can't like wrestling that much I understand he grew up a fan He can't need the money either He can't definitely doesn't need the money This isn't what he grew up with I'm sure he doesn't like this
[UNKNOWN]: Um, so why is he, it's the, it's the, I don't even like him as a sports announcer, but it's still just, it's weird.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm like, oh, yeah, he works here.
[UNKNOWN]: Why?
[UNKNOWN]: why?
[UNKNOWN]: Get fucking, just stick, don't be peed up there.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, he'll work for a fraction of the price and it's, you know.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's actually kind of surprising too that they're probably still paying him a very pretty penny and he can be very easily replaced by any robot or any dope, you know, they can't dopey peed with doing for one, one, whatever one divided by whatever Joe Tussley.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he is probably what don't be peed with doing for.
[UNKNOWN]: So,
[UNKNOWN]: Right, and it's like, and what is he, what did he really add?
[UNKNOWN]: What did he add to the show, the serenessment of it?
[UNKNOWN]: And it's nothing.
[UNKNOWN]: No, he does, he does the, people have their wheelie cards, he goes, BLEE, BLEE, and PAGE, the current, dummy dummy women's tag team champions, look to retain the title against, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don
[UNKNOWN]: with smiles on their face.
[UNKNOWN]: And then when the three heels, they're like, they're so frowned, they're frowned.
[UNKNOWN]: No, no, they're like, they're doing that smirk and looking at each other, like the smirk and looking at each other, yeah, yeah, right, right.
[UNKNOWN]: This is a piece of cake tonight.
[UNKNOWN]: Like they're smirkin' and looking at each other as they totally organically and not planned walk into the building with a camera in front of them.
[UNKNOWN]: It's just, so everything about this company is just irritating.
[UNKNOWN]: Cody walking with a suitcase and looking past the camera, like it's not there,
[UNKNOWN]: I can't take it.
[UNKNOWN]: Everything about this company annoys me.
[UNKNOWN]: These might even sound like little things to people.
[UNKNOWN]: Like why is this annoying?
[UNKNOWN]: Well, you go wild.
[UNKNOWN]: You'll see why it's fucking annoying.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it all sucks.
[UNKNOWN]: CM Punk having to wear New York Nick's colors because Cody Rhodes was also wearing New York Nick's colors because the show was in New York City and it was filled with New York Nick's and we were doing fanatics fest integration.
[UNKNOWN]: So CM Punk, who hates basketball and I'm sure does not like the city of New York has to come out in New York Nick's colors.
[UNKNOWN]: If it was the New York Rangers, he wouldn't have done it.
[UNKNOWN]: No, he wouldn't have done it.
[UNKNOWN]: There's not a fucking chance But he doesn't like basketball.
[UNKNOWN]: He's not a bull's guy.
[UNKNOWN]: He's a black-hawks cubs guy, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Correct So he don't have any affinity for the bulls or anything I bet he wouldn't have done it if it was like the fucking mats or the Rangers or something definitely not the Rangers because
[UNKNOWN]: these hockey guys are pretty crazy about that shit right like oh yeah they have like my mindset like they would never do that sort of thing um yeah but this was like uh little overboard on the nicks I mean geez I know we're an MSG but this felt like we heard you the nicks are the champions of the NBA we got it this would have been fine if it was a house show I think but
[UNKNOWN]: This was on Peacock, going out to everyone.
[UNKNOWN]: No one else at any York gives a fuck about the next.
[UNKNOWN]: No.
[UNKNOWN]: In fact, a lot of the people watching probably don't like the nicks, probably right hate the nicks in a lot of cases.
[UNKNOWN]: This was so heavy handed with the fucking nicks shit.
[UNKNOWN]: First of all was a month ago, I mean, it's old news at this point.
[UNKNOWN]: That's number one.
[UNKNOWN]: Number two, this wasn't just some self-contained house show or something that was just airing in New York.
[UNKNOWN]: It was really heavy handed with the nicks shit.
[UNKNOWN]: And, you know, it was for somebody like me to sit through this.
[UNKNOWN]: When I don't even like it to begin with, then it's just a feeling bronzing.
[UNKNOWN]: I understand the next.
[UNKNOWN]: So you know what I'm talking about?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, just, you know, I don't know, just way too much next for a national broadcast.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Go doubt about it.
[UNKNOWN]: So, uh, we opened after 29 minutes, finally fatal influence versus Brebelle in page and, uh, fatal influence or you're new, a WWE women's tag team champions, after a terrible another annoying dirty thing that got me that again, people probably don't notice, but I noticed and once you notice, you'll never forget, um,
[UNKNOWN]: Page loses.
[UNKNOWN]: So she got pinned and she lost her whatever.
[UNKNOWN]: So she's on the mats destroy you know how they dirty wrestlers They stand with their they're like cross-legged in the ring with their hands on their head Rebellion had to sit next to her and also
[UNKNOWN]: be upset but she had to shimmy on over to do the spot because you can't just like she can't be upset over here and page be upset over here we have to both get in the shot so i'm they cut to beige and she's got her hand on her head like oh my god i can't believe we lost and rebella has to scoot on her butt over to then hug page and go oh my god i'm also distraught here that we lost and tells it's these little dumb things the show about a show about per wrestling that i just fucking hate about this company
[UNKNOWN]: that Bribel can't just be upset five inches away from page.
[UNKNOWN]: No, she has to hug her and also put her hands on her head and go, it's okay.
[UNKNOWN]: It's okay.
[UNKNOWN]: We'll win as Fatal Influence walks backwards up the ramp going.
[UNKNOWN]: Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha
[UNKNOWN]: If you care about such things, the horrible tag team aren't the champions anymore.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, and hopefully other guys, hopefully were done with them.
[UNKNOWN]: You would think that they would just be done as a team, at least not a good team.
[UNKNOWN]: And look, at least the other act is fresh and starting to get over.
[UNKNOWN]: You could look at it from that standpoint.
[UNKNOWN]: And yeah, I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: I always feel silly analyzing this.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, what's the point?
[UNKNOWN]: In earnest, but look, if I'm trying out for my potential WWE, you've got to do this.
[UNKNOWN]: That you set up for me earlier, then that's what I would say.
[UNKNOWN]: All right, let's make some fun.
[UNKNOWN]: Added a stupid review we have to do.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm gonna approach this like I would.
[UNKNOWN]: If I was on my first day at the job on WWE radio, and you can do the flagship version of the review of each match, and I'll give you that review.
[UNKNOWN]: And my review would be, yeah, you know, this pre-Bella page team, if kind of run out of steam since WrestleMania, I'm sure they'll do great things, move and forward, because you know, it's two legends, pre-Bella and page.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, WWE, pre-Bella is a WWE Hall of Famer.
[UNKNOWN]: absolute legends, you know, Bremode.
[UNKNOWN]: I like I love Bremode, Bremode, Bremode when I used to watch total divas, I used to get such a kick out of Bremode, it was so funny that bitch she had with her sister.
[UNKNOWN]: But yeah, you got these two great legends and now I think this frees them up to just be able to do such great things outside of this tag team division and fatal influence they're over now and
[UNKNOWN]: And the fans are getting behind them.
[UNKNOWN]: And I think this is a great move.
[UNKNOWN]: Tremendous job by Paul Leveck here, pulling the trigger on fatal influence.
[UNKNOWN]: And I've seen nothing but great things ahead for those three young superstars.
[UNKNOWN]: And great things ahead for pre-Bella and Paige.
[UNKNOWN]: Absolutely.
[UNKNOWN]: I love it.
[UNKNOWN]: Then we moved on to a no disqual...
[UNKNOWN]: I'm sure there was a thousand things in between this, like videos and dumb shit.
[UNKNOWN]: But the next match that we had, I was Dan Housing versus JD McDonough, no disqualification.
[UNKNOWN]: Dan Housing gets the win.
[UNKNOWN]: How do you even decide a bit aside?
[UNKNOWN]: Take a pause on the bit for one second.
[UNKNOWN]: Are we a little overboard on the dinhouse and stuff right now?
[UNKNOWN]: Are we going a little too crazy?
[UNKNOWN]: Because this match is is Dan housing comes out.
[UNKNOWN]: Dominic Mysterio and judgment day they start interfering within like five minutes of the match and just doing a bunch of shit.
[UNKNOWN]: Dan Housing then goes to the back to many Dan Housing show up.
[UNKNOWN]: Dan Housing gets it and none of this is all shoot.
[UNKNOWN]: This is all I'm not making any of this up.
[UNKNOWN]: How can I possibly make any of this up?
[UNKNOWN]: Dan Housing then goes to his, what is he, what is it?
[UNKNOWN]: A cloning machine is cloning machine.
[UNKNOWN]: So while the many Dan Housing are beating up Jamie McDonald and Dominic, the cloning machine is vibrating and shaking and then a bunch of smoke comes out and then cat housing,
[UNKNOWN]: Who, uh, by the way, I don't know if you know this, the New York Nix, they're the NBA champions and currently the town's the member of the New York Nix that just won the NBA Championship and has show was taking place in New York City in the world's most famous arena mess in Square Garden, so cat house and comes out and then cat house and runs down to the ring or walks down to the ring, sautters, slowly sautters down to the ring, with Dan housing and then puts Jimmy McDonald Dominic Mysterious through tables.
[UNKNOWN]: as Dan Housen picks up the victory here in this no disqualification match.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, this was none of that was made up.
[UNKNOWN]: No, that was my miss.
[UNKNOWN]: That having that's well, Dan Housen was in his New York Nick's gear.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, cracks, cracks, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
[UNKNOWN]: There were midgets running around all over the place.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know who they bring in Lord Little Brock.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, that's a little Tokyo.
[UNKNOWN]: I was a sky-low-low, whatever.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: And then, yes, in fact, Carl Anthony Towns.
[UNKNOWN]: But the Haiti kid, right, wasn't another one, Haiti kid.
[UNKNOWN]: No.
[UNKNOWN]: He did come out about committed an offense of foul, and then came out of the box.
[UNKNOWN]: I stripped over, after it opened to Fender, and came out of the offense of foul.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: I called for an offense of foul, and came out of the cloning machine, all true.
[UNKNOWN]: Dan Housing is just so much fun.
[UNKNOWN]: I get such a kick out of Dan Housing and he had the little people out there.
[UNKNOWN]: I love when, don't you just love the mini Dan Housing?
[UNKNOWN]: It's hilarious.
[UNKNOWN]: I, oh my god, when the mini houses came out, I just, I had a, I had a pause.
[UNKNOWN]: I was laughing so much.
[UNKNOWN]: I would be laughing emoji.
[UNKNOWN]: The left crime emoji, that was me.
[UNKNOWN]: I just couldn't handle it.
[UNKNOWN]: And you know, I couldn't believe it when Carl Anthony Towns came out of the house and you get it.
[UNKNOWN]: It's so, it's just so clever and it's so good and I just can't get enough of that Dan housing.
[UNKNOWN]: Can't get enough of them.
[UNKNOWN]: Do you think they paid them a lot of human monies to take on JD McDonald's?
[UNKNOWN]: Last night, I was going to, on a serious note, remember Domestereo, remember that thing I do.
[UNKNOWN]: Remember when that was the thing?
[UNKNOWN]: And that was just kind of hanging out.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's kind of hanging out.
[UNKNOWN]: It's like what?
[UNKNOWN]: What happened there?
[UNKNOWN]: With JD McDonald's.
[UNKNOWN]: Do not don't move old JD McDonald's.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's fucking the Danhausen thing.
[UNKNOWN]: They are getting their money.
[UNKNOWN]: They need their human money's worth.
[UNKNOWN]: That's the one.
[UNKNOWN]: Danhausen.
[UNKNOWN]: They are beating this to death more than I ever thought they could.
[UNKNOWN]: That's saying something.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, in record time, they're beating this to death.
[UNKNOWN]: The Danhausen, which we knew they would.
[UNKNOWN]: Not to this extent.
[UNKNOWN]: I did not think they would have just embraced it.
[UNKNOWN]: They have jumped into the deep end with Danhausen or going all in.
[UNKNOWN]: It's wild.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but he's curse in world cup teams.
[UNKNOWN]: He's person the spurs.
[UNKNOWN]: I want to see a win loss record on his curses because I feel like they're everyone's It's like I don't pay out.
[UNKNOWN]: It's kind of like an addiction.
[UNKNOWN]: I think I think they're within on the gimmick, but that's neither here nor there.
[UNKNOWN]: We knew that they would.
[UNKNOWN]: But the curses don't work.
[UNKNOWN]: They're not supposed to be a geek.
[UNKNOWN]: But it's supposed to be just a fun, loving, harmless guy who thinks he has powers, but doesn't like that's kind of the idea.
[UNKNOWN]: But in world wrestling entertainment, he has powers.
[UNKNOWN]: The funny machine works.
[UNKNOWN]: He does curse points.
[UNKNOWN]: There's clone machines.
[UNKNOWN]: There's he points and things explode.
[UNKNOWN]: He puts curses in it.
[UNKNOWN]: It works.
[UNKNOWN]: It's kind of like, that wasn't the bit.
[UNKNOWN]: That wasn't really the bit.
[UNKNOWN]: All right, now we're going to go to Lyra Velcuria and Bailey, the giant grudge match here, the homeless crack-ridden, crack-addicted Lyra Velcuria shows up in her tatters and it's Bailey, Faceser, and I will say
[UNKNOWN]: I thought this match was pretty awesome.
[UNKNOWN]: And it was pretty awesome because it's Bailey is not very good anymore.
[UNKNOWN]: So she can't really do anything.
[UNKNOWN]: So she just kept dropping Laira Valkyria on her fucking head.
[UNKNOWN]: And she does.
[UNKNOWN]: That's how she rests.
[UNKNOWN]: And Busted her open, hard way.
[UNKNOWN]: Busted open Laira Valkyria is knows which was awesome.
[UNKNOWN]: It was like a faucet.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, leading all over.
[UNKNOWN]: And here is yet another thing that we can add to this is why fucking hate this company.
[UNKNOWN]: How cool is it that the end again?
[UNKNOWN]: It was a happy little axe in here.
[UNKNOWN]: Bailey Bailey just kind of recklessly throwing elbows Bricks live real curious knows hard way.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm just blood gushing out of her.
[UNKNOWN]: This is a grudge match This is a rivalry.
[UNKNOWN]: This is a rivalry two years in the making it's pretty fucking cool that live real care is gushing blood And there's blood all over the ring and all this sort of stuff So what are these motherfuckers do they stop the goddamn edge for a minute to clean up live without curing get all the blood off of face and then get her back in the ring
[UNKNOWN]: Fuck you.
[UNKNOWN]: Stop attacking your opponent for a minute, so we can clean her up and get all the blood off of her face.
[UNKNOWN]: Fuck you.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Cut.
[UNKNOWN]: Draw the curtain.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we got it.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you know, it garbage.
[UNKNOWN]: Fallen Henley got busted open earlier.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, that's right.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I forgot about that.
[UNKNOWN]: Toa is like, why should I have to sew the fucking sell bus?
[UNKNOWN]: People bleed in all over place.
[UNKNOWN]: I was waiting for wildfire, Tommy Rich to come out, covered in a crimson mask.
[UNKNOWN]: It's me, that's just a show.
[UNKNOWN]: They were my favorite territory to watch last year when I was doing Tour of the Territory, Southwest, vaulted up my list.
[UNKNOWN]: I love Southwest, they had really, really good.
[UNKNOWN]: Good action, bloody hard hitting, gritty, like I am, man.
[UNKNOWN]: So good.
[UNKNOWN]: So of course I got it.
[UNKNOWN]: They were on USA first.
[UNKNOWN]: What if they won the war?
[UNKNOWN]: Exactly, watching it today.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, actually, do you know the big reason why they got off?
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, they got off of USA because Vince McMahon gave them a big giant bag of money, but there was a Bob Sweetan totally blanched match where they were just crushing blood.
[UNKNOWN]: And USA was like, you can't show that.
[UNKNOWN]: And Southwest was like, the fucking hell we can.
[UNKNOWN]: We're gonna show it.
[UNKNOWN]: You can't show that on our television and you know blanch it.
[UNKNOWN]: It's like, I don't know I fucking assholes.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know shit.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, and so they're like, all right We're gonna go with this company that's giving us a giant bag of money and is promising Not to have Bob Sweeten gushing blood on our television.
[UNKNOWN]: So we're gonna do that instead and Southwest is on business like a year and a half later, but I appreciate
[UNKNOWN]: You know, Joe Blanch, you're putting out a cigarette going to hell with those New York asshole.
[UNKNOWN]: Fuck off.
[UNKNOWN]: Like, you know what I mean?
[UNKNOWN]: Like, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: We're going to show Tony Blanch in order to show my son and Bob Sweetie and Gushing Blood.
[UNKNOWN]: And then they, uh, they had, um,
[UNKNOWN]: The next week, they had a whole segment where I forget the guy that was hosting Southwest.
[UNKNOWN]: But he did a big thing like, oh, the big wigs on our network don't want to show this.
[UNKNOWN]: And I'm like, oh my god, this is the network that you're on.
[UNKNOWN]: That's paying you money to, if you're show on.
[UNKNOWN]: What are you guys doing?
[UNKNOWN]: I know, like, so what we're going to do is we're going to show you an edited version of the match.
[UNKNOWN]: This is what they wanted us to show you.
[UNKNOWN]: And it's like, there's just a big black, you know, the screens just black the whole time.
[UNKNOWN]: There's like a big bar.
[UNKNOWN]: And they're like, that's what they want us to show you.
[UNKNOWN]: That's what it's like.
[UNKNOWN]: you guys they're going to tell you that the fucking bricks and they did.
[UNKNOWN]: So it's like the Cyrus the virus give him.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he cw on tn where we're him and knew he was cooked so he just he turned the network heel, right?
[UNKNOWN]: That's kind of like the same thing that they were doing there.
[UNKNOWN]: Bob Sweeten also do not Google Bob Sweeten.
[UNKNOWN]: No, a bad bad guy.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, I had you regretfully canceled Bob Sweeten.
[UNKNOWN]: One episode into this one is not in dispute.
[UNKNOWN]: Bob Sweeten is in fact in not disputing Bob Sweeten.
[UNKNOWN]: There was his there was a quote.
[UNKNOWN]: Let's see his let me find it.
[UNKNOWN]: No, not from him.
[UNKNOWN]: It was from his like a strange.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, even better.
[UNKNOWN]: No, he's white.
[UNKNOWN]: It's okay.
[UNKNOWN]: His sweet-tenth ex-wife Rebecca says, quote, this is from my tour of the territory's notes, quote, he's a waste of skin as far as I'm concerned.
[UNKNOWN]: He tried his brain with drugs, deserved his children, and abused them emotionally, physically, sexually and mentally.
[UNKNOWN]: That's the four corners of abuse that he didn't miss one, no, he's a waste of skin.
[UNKNOWN]: I love it.
[UNKNOWN]: He's not even worth the skin that's on his body.
[UNKNOWN]: I love it.
[UNKNOWN]: You know what was impressive about that, not his four corners of abuse.
[UNKNOWN]: The speed in which you pulled up those notes.
[UNKNOWN]: Who knew that Bob Sweethan was even gonna come up on this show and you had those Bob Sweethan knows.
[UNKNOWN]: I was ready to go.
[UNKNOWN]: I remember I remember one of the skins so I just typed in waste of skin and it came up right away.
[UNKNOWN]: So.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, it doesn't get much worse.
[UNKNOWN]: But I just told you're a waste of skin.
[UNKNOWN]: Listen, Bob Sweethan is an underrated, awful wrestling person.
[UNKNOWN]: I think that he's like one of the worst.
[UNKNOWN]: Think of the ground that covers, and I don't think he gets enough quote unquote credit for being one of the words.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, like him and Bucks Zuma for like two of the all-timers where you're like, oh, dear God.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, Zuma, if I think people are familiar with at this point.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, nobody, not many people know about sweet ant.
[UNKNOWN]: Sweet ant is really an underrated shitty guy, like really underrated.
[UNKNOWN]: So uh, I could just see in our chat people are like, oh my god, yeah, I just couldn't get in real time.
[UNKNOWN]: Nobody knew.
[UNKNOWN]: You Google Bob Sweet 10.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, I got a note from Jim Ross here.
[UNKNOWN]: Jim Ross says, uh, I didn't like Bob Sweet 10 didn't want to be around him and he was a miserable human being.
[UNKNOWN]: Jim Dougan, Jim Dougan, he's like the nicest guy I remember.
[UNKNOWN]: I've ever seen him with Jim Dougan's social media content in his days.
[UNKNOWN]: He just gets on a plane and with his wife, and he's like, we're going to, you know, Branson Missouri, he's like, he's having a time his life.
[UNKNOWN]: He was worried about his sweeteners, a bully and a piece of garbage.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: A curl to beer is says I wasn't a fan of his from being a locker room thief to just among other things.
[UNKNOWN]: He's just a fucking asshole.
[UNKNOWN]: What a quote.
[UNKNOWN]: He's just the fucking asshole.
[UNKNOWN]: On top of everything else.
[UNKNOWN]: The girl appears to try to think of all the things and he's like, you don't want to be just an asshole.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know what he wanted to say.
[UNKNOWN]: Guys, I'm fucking pieces shit.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know what you want to be telling you.
[UNKNOWN]: It's a top of everything else.
[UNKNOWN]: A locker room thief.
[UNKNOWN]: On top of everything else.
[UNKNOWN]: That's like a little cherry on top.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: He's going shit to you.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: He's going to steal from your bag while you're in the ring.
[UNKNOWN]: And then go home and just terrorize his family.
[UNKNOWN]: Just an awful man.
[UNKNOWN]: Unfortunately, several times I was washing, I was like, God damn it, he's a very good professional wrestler like he's such a horrible human being.
[UNKNOWN]: It's so terrible.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you're sitting there going fuck man.
[UNKNOWN]: What am I right?
[UNKNOWN]: It's like that's the thing about like people are like I should go back and watch PWG or whatever It's like now I'm not gonna do that because I'm gonna be like hey, this guy's pretty good They're like actually this guy did this this and then I'm like, okay I can't couch or somebody was like you should go back and watch old progress and I'm like you really want me to go back and watch old progress like progress.
[UNKNOWN]: I'll pick the worst from everything that I like I'm like, all right look look look look Look, I No Marty squirrel, but This match was really good like I'm not gonna do that you can't do that
[UNKNOWN]: There's certain tear stories, and for Bolsheviks to us, they would, I know the guy who had a kissing gimmick on his entrance was really forcing kisses on people, but give me out here.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, there's just everyone who comes out at a curtain.
[UNKNOWN]: You can't do a progress, rewatch, it's impossible.
[UNKNOWN]: Jack's sex myth, a little too on the nose, a lot of it's a lot of it too on the nose, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: A little too on the nose.
[UNKNOWN]: Anyway, so this this library Bailey match actually ended up in pretty good because Bailey just She's it's 10 rule out here just dropping live out here and a fucking neck I mean, Limerals like she was in a war, but she was done.
[UNKNOWN]: She was just like her noses busted open her neck is broken And I was like damn that's a hell of a warrior, but they didn't try to have the like this kind of match But it'd be in this kind of match, and I actually enjoyed it.
[UNKNOWN]: So that's how Bailey works.
[UNKNOWN]: She she's got the physical problems roll aware of That's sometimes I think we're a little overstated, but they're there
[UNKNOWN]: And she just basically does head and arm suplexes like Taz, Belly to Belly's, got wrench, got wrench, suplexes, she's thrown people around, that's what she does.
[UNKNOWN]: She wrestles like no other North American woman because it's just a suplex base.
[UNKNOWN]: She's eating people all over the place.
[UNKNOWN]: So, you know, it's always an interesting watch when she has a match like this, the type profile gets a little bit of time.
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, then we'll just go to our main event.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm sure there was a bunch of there's all these terrible.
[UNKNOWN]: So we break in with celebrities and have these celebrities They just do for boxing people.
[UNKNOWN]: It's like, it's terrible.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, the fit.
[UNKNOWN]: We got like highlights of Fanatics Fest, which looks like my absolute hell.
[UNKNOWN]: There are a few places that would rather be less than Fanatics Fest to watch athletes.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: walk around and then pay $1,000 to get an autograph from them.
[UNKNOWN]: No thank you.
[UNKNOWN]: I do feel like fanatics fest and WWE has a very, the Venn diagram is almost the perfect circle of people who would enjoy both of those things though.
[UNKNOWN]: So it does make a lot of sense.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, if you're a live Morgan fan, you probably, you know, you probably plunked down some money for fanatics fest.
[UNKNOWN]: That was absolutely.
[UNKNOWN]: You stood in line for two hours and paid $1,000 to
[UNKNOWN]: have lived more and go has gone there you go oh yeah I've got a picture yeah you can't touch me though okay or no arm no prom poses oh my god that Becky Lynch picture oh my god that's so terrifying god oh she's so tense oh my god she wants to die
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, she wants to die.
[UNKNOWN]: I saw that quote not that long, and I hated it.
[UNKNOWN]: God, I hated it.
[UNKNOWN]: It makes me uncomfortable.
[UNKNOWN]: If you could have asked her in that moment, do you want to live for the next eight seconds until this is over?
[UNKNOWN]: Or do you just want to die right now?
[UNKNOWN]: She may have told me.
[UNKNOWN]: She may have told me right now.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: She is so tense in that photo.
[UNKNOWN]: That's the classic example of that.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's so fucking creepy.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: And then there's the the other one I love is the the the Sasha banks at the airport with the jet's fan Where it's probably like five in the morning and So what's up here in the dark side of the ring on that photo.
[UNKNOWN]: The vehicle is Yes, I'm the ring on that
[UNKNOWN]: A cute daddy, eight, seven, one, seven, seven in the chair.
[UNKNOWN]: It's so good, dark side of the ring.
[UNKNOWN]: He didn't do prom-do-do.
[UNKNOWN]: It's like, I was horrified.
[UNKNOWN]: You know what I'm just like, he's talking to me.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I couldn't believe it.
[UNKNOWN]: Back at lunch, I was like, I would have been dead.
[UNKNOWN]: I would have rather been dead.
[UNKNOWN]: Don't do, don't do, don't do.
[UNKNOWN]: For sure.
[UNKNOWN]: Sometimes you go to tell me the world.
[UNKNOWN]: It's okay, you can see it, it would be great.
[UNKNOWN]: It was just Friday, WWE the World, the Kira Tazawa was taking on your Gulak in the ring.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, absolutely.
[UNKNOWN]: And then don't do all this stuff.
[UNKNOWN]: That's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it
[UNKNOWN]: Oh god.
[UNKNOWN]: So then we had Completely in on the bit, which I do appreciate.
[UNKNOWN]: Still, Cody wrote this sample.
[UNKNOWN]: So they do a pretty match promo here of this main event.
[UNKNOWN]: So it's punk and Cody wrote through his Goetheur and Sammy Zane.
[UNKNOWN]: So they're, they're standing there.
[UNKNOWN]: They do like a road warrior thing.
[UNKNOWN]: Like Cody does a problem and he goes, tell him punk and punk's like, well, and then I'm like, okay, I get it, guys.
[UNKNOWN]: And they're like, they're both standing in like weird directions and punk's like, I'm trying to out, you know, like, a shoulder me on the video, but I gotta be, I gotta, both have to have our shoulders all the way out.
[UNKNOWN]: So I appreciate that it's like, and punk does this all the time.
[UNKNOWN]: Cody does this all the time too.
[UNKNOWN]: Where they know it's shit.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so they try to pretend that they're in on the bit that they know it shit Which I I guess I appreciate it, but I don't know it's ban material so they're doing it in a tongue-in-cheek way Right, so they do this prologue can we coexist and it's like what do you think Cody can we coax this?
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know C.M.
[UNKNOWN]: Can we just like this terrible promo the story?
[UNKNOWN]: See you got a tech because people aren't watching this shit.
[UNKNOWN]: I guess that's true
[UNKNOWN]: The story is they're both baby faces and they're facing each other at SummerSlam.
[UNKNOWN]: The story is Will Opspray and Kenny Omega.
[UNKNOWN]: Correct.
[UNKNOWN]: That's, that's the story, okay?
[UNKNOWN]: And they're getting along in a very passive aggressive way, but Rich is right.
[UNKNOWN]: They knew this segment was shit and they really hemmed it up to an extra degree, because we all know how punk and Cody are.
[UNKNOWN]: They don't,
[UNKNOWN]: how do I even put it they know it fucking sucks when they when they were presented this sheet of paper they looked at and said can you believe this fucking shit all right let's let's make the most of it all right so they made the most of it yeah it had some fun with it and it the whole deal is like
[UNKNOWN]: They're getting along, but you know, they don't want to get along, but they are getting along, and they were like, whoa, who's going to get, who's going to enter first on them, I said, I enter with you if, you know, and make it to even know the champion typically enter, so it's just, yeah, and then, and then you're using plays and he goes, oh, I guess it's me and punk goes, I don't know if this is going to work out.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like, oh my god.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's, um, you know, it's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
[UNKNOWN]: It's both companies have their big summer event centered around a world title match with two baby faces who are passive aggressively getting along right now, but obviously on some fucking raw the shit's going to hit the fan and on some dynamite the shit's going to hit the fan will already elbowed Kenny in the face last night on dynamite, so they got the ball rolling on that.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, in this case, Cody Rhodes, who's the one that's not the champ.
[UNKNOWN]: Cody Rhodes.
[UNKNOWN]: Cody Rhodes's not the champ right now.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he's not like being trained by the Miz.
[UNKNOWN]: Like right or whoever, you know.
[UNKNOWN]: Bill digs and points out rule on the channel.
[UNKNOWN]: They're both wrestling fans and they died a little inside and that's the thing like they they they both are still at their core They love wrestling and they know that this is other shit, so yeah, they went out there and we're just total fucking goofballs the entire time
[UNKNOWN]: they want to get to the angle where one guy turns right is what they want to do that's that's what they want to but they got to do the can we co-exist thing and they they they were given a sheet of paper about how to cut a can we co-exist promo and just said i final just fucking do this but we'll do it in the goofiest fucking way possible so uh they went out and they had a professional russing mexicans goon ther and samy zane and uh they lost goon ther and samy zane did because nick Aldous wouldn't let goon ther cheat
[UNKNOWN]: Hmm, so that's how CM Punk Cody wrote it's pizza guys.
[UNKNOWN]: I feel like Cody just Cody never just win a match All of his matches are like one via someone coming in or somebody interfering.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm like this guy's the biggest heel in wrestling like he only wins via like Like yeah, he'll hit his move, but it's always like somebody's coming in and doing something and then he hits his meat.
[UNKNOWN]: It's very strange There's these mutants don't care.
[UNKNOWN]: I guess It's fucking mutant fans.
[UNKNOWN]: They you it doesn't matter what you give them they
[UNKNOWN]: They eventually got 15,000 people in this building or I think it was really 13,000, whatever it was.
[UNKNOWN]: They got like 13,000 people in this garage and claw to get there.
[UNKNOWN]: And they gave them four matches.
[UNKNOWN]: These people don't deserve respect.
[UNKNOWN]: So what does it matter?
[UNKNOWN]: Daniel Care, these fans are idiots.
[UNKNOWN]: And I just got fired from the Demet.
[UNKNOWN]: I lasted one, one show review.
[UNKNOWN]: You didn't get the whole review done.
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't even finish the review and I got fired.
[UNKNOWN]: I would never make it because then I was like I was looking at my video and I'm like why is there so much time left in this video and then Joe Tess said work not one yet on Saturday's main event coming up next and be a champion I'd be a finals MVP jail in Bronson and the OTC Roman reigns and I'm like What are these guys gonna do and turns out fucking nothing?
[UNKNOWN]: This could have been an email, this could have been a YouTube video.
[UNKNOWN]: These men walked out to the ring.
[UNKNOWN]: This could have been an email, they walked out to the ring.
[UNKNOWN]: Romans fucking music played for 25 minutes.
[UNKNOWN]: No no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no
[UNKNOWN]: with that means I'm I called in a favor and I got you a title belt and you know the president's presented a title belt and I'm watching this.
[UNKNOWN]: These people paid hundreds hundreds and hundreds of dollars to watch Roman Reigns through his veneers talk to Jalen Brunson about giving him a title belt that had the next logo on it.
[UNKNOWN]: Four matches in this.
[UNKNOWN]: What was this?
[UNKNOWN]: I might miss what I miss what I miss out of this Chris Fowler sitting there on side.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, it's good.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, well, they were talking about other select when they were doing the celebrity thing.
[UNKNOWN]: You could see him sitting behind one of the pernell wittaker.
[UNKNOWN]: I think one of the pernell wittaker there are some box of there and a Terrence Crawford, I think, was there.
[UNKNOWN]: Terrence Crawford.
[UNKNOWN]: Of course, I pull a boxer from 1992.
[UNKNOWN]: Chris Fowler is sitting behind them.
[UNKNOWN]: Can Norton was not there.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think he's not at all.
[UNKNOWN]: No.
[UNKNOWN]: Tough good, tough good these days.
[UNKNOWN]: That'd be pretty cool if can Norton was there.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think the bail and bleeder chuckle weaponner.
[UNKNOWN]: But that would have been really cool if he was there.
[UNKNOWN]: Um, yeah, so they also chuckle a Dell was there.
[UNKNOWN]: And they didn't name him.
[UNKNOWN]: I saw him sitting there behind.
[UNKNOWN]: Wait, so they named all these fucking dweaves.
[UNKNOWN]: But not Chris Fowler?
[UNKNOWN]: and not chocolate.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I guess Chris Fowler wouldn't be cool.
[UNKNOWN]: He's not on the cool factor.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, I can understand that.
[UNKNOWN]: I forgot.
[UNKNOWN]: I noticed they fake crowd noise.
[UNKNOWN]: They made a mistake here.
[UNKNOWN]: They show Oshay Jackson.
[UNKNOWN]: Ice cube junior.
[UNKNOWN]: And he's wearing Dodgers gear.
[UNKNOWN]: And they show him on camera.
[UNKNOWN]: And then they say, oh, shay Jackson's here.
[UNKNOWN]: And you hear the crowd go, and Michael Cole says, I knew he'd get booed wearing all that Dodgers gear.
[UNKNOWN]: He didn't get booed on the show.
[UNKNOWN]: I just watched, he was getting cheered.
[UNKNOWN]: So they put in the cheers.
[UNKNOWN]: They fake cheers for Okshay Jackson, as my actual fake cheers.
[UNKNOWN]: No back of the show.
[UNKNOWN]: The Dodger jacket, unbelievable.
[UNKNOWN]: The insecurity of this company.
[UNKNOWN]: Because Michael Colson's, I knew he'd get booed with all that Dodger skier on, but he did not.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, it was a rockous applause for Okshay Jackson.
[UNKNOWN]: That means they had to be ready for that.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, too.
[UNKNOWN]: Or they just said everybody.
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe I wanted if they just did it for everybody.
[UNKNOWN]: That's a good catch.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Also, would there anyone, would there be anyone more annoying to hang out with than O-Shake Jacks?
[UNKNOWN]: No.
[UNKNOWN]: W-W-E superfan.
[UNKNOWN]: Dodger fan.
[UNKNOWN]: Leiter fan.
[UNKNOWN]: Like Kobe adult.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, a card carrying Kobe adult too.
[UNKNOWN]: Kobe adult W-W-E fanatic who roots for the Dodgers.
[UNKNOWN]: Because there be a more annoying person to hang out with.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, that's the epitome, that's peak annoying.
[UNKNOWN]: Also, is it a college fan, is it a college fan too?
[UNKNOWN]: Probably.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Also, grew up rich and, you know, was gift wrapped a career.
[UNKNOWN]: I just, it's just, you can't find potty, you can't possibly find a more annoying person.
[UNKNOWN]: He wants to talk to you about Dan House and probably,
[UNKNOWN]: So was I missing something with this jail in Britain?
[UNKNOWN]: Like why did this exist?
[UNKNOWN]: This is a part of a hell of a burn.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: You didn't even bring that up yet.
[UNKNOWN]: I guess not.
[UNKNOWN]: You're right.
[UNKNOWN]: So then they bring out.
[UNKNOWN]: Halibur.
[UNKNOWN]: Tyre's Halibur, and from the Pacers.
[UNKNOWN]: From the Pacers, because I don't know, three years ago in the playoff state.
[UNKNOWN]: There's got to be like, and I'm not one of these, you know, doubly, I'm not a wrestling fan that thinks like you can't show anything.
[UNKNOWN]: But this is like, I could imagine, like, this is real inside.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I was just in thousands of doubly fans are just looking at their screen going, what is happening?
[UNKNOWN]: What is any of this?
[UNKNOWN]: This is content for Ibu, is what it is.
[UNKNOWN]: It's for no one else, it's for, yeah, like this is what I mean.
[UNKNOWN]: This was so inside baseball.
[UNKNOWN]: This was for a Madison Square Garden house show.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
[UNKNOWN]: No one else in the country gives a shit about Tyre's Hall of Burton and Jalen Bronson, and they're playoff beef from the 2002 NBA playoffs.
[UNKNOWN]: No one gives a shit.
[UNKNOWN]: I think it was last year's playoffs, but still whatever it was.
[UNKNOWN]: It wasn't this year,
[UNKNOWN]: You know, it's like, you know, it was a local thing for a local crowd, which would have been fine.
[UNKNOWN]: I think they were just so desperate to get on a sports center, right?
[UNKNOWN]: It had to be that right.
[UNKNOWN]: It just like the desperation to please, please put us on sports center.
[UNKNOWN]: Come on.
[UNKNOWN]: And they did.
[UNKNOWN]: And then what is that worth?
[UNKNOWN]: Nothing.
[UNKNOWN]: People complaining that wrestling is on sports center is what it now.
[UNKNOWN]: And wrestling fans going, what the fuck is all this?
[UNKNOWN]: Why am I watching this?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: That was the segment.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and then pun, well, no, and then Roman got attacked by a right at least at least it kind of got on track there a little bit turned into a wrestling angle to some extent when When the fucking screeching muppet came out and attacked him so Seth freaking Rollins.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, summer slam.
[UNKNOWN]: That's next weekend.
[UNKNOWN]: I know next weekend
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, instant reaction live, both nights.
[UNKNOWN]: Wow, I could do Sunday.
[UNKNOWN]: I could do Sunday.
[UNKNOWN]: I actually can't do Saturday.
[UNKNOWN]: I will actually be, I have obligations on Saturday, but I can do, we can do, summer slam night one in the propagation now.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it is.
[UNKNOWN]: But I'm happy to do a week and recap on Sunday, if you'd like.
[UNKNOWN]: I'll leave that up to you.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
[UNKNOWN]: We did that last year too.
[UNKNOWN]: I can't do two nights of summer's life.
[UNKNOWN]: I cannot commit two nights of the summer to watching and and reviewing summer slam.
[UNKNOWN]: That's that's tough.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Well Looks like a hot card at least.
[UNKNOWN]: It does it Yeah, it's party in the summer.
[UNKNOWN]: Biggest party.
[UNKNOWN]: Did they?
[UNKNOWN]: that they parse out the matches yet.
[UNKNOWN]: I think you know, I don't think they have because they're still trying to sell some fucking tickets.
[UNKNOWN]: So they're like, no, you better buy both nights.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, no, what's good of you on?
[UNKNOWN]: Well, you know how I know that they didn't, because if you click SummerSlam Saturday, there's like nine matches, and we ought in the Olympics not to do a nine match.
[UNKNOWN]: The hell, I'm sure.
[UNKNOWN]: So, no, these are getting split up.
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe they won't even tell us at all until you just gotta show up.
[UNKNOWN]: There was a WrestleMania what two years ago where yeah, we didn't know until It was like a mystery vortex that came through the curtain and we were like, oh, okay.
[UNKNOWN]: That's a night one I guess.
[UNKNOWN]: So Yeah, nothing stopping them from doing that again
[UNKNOWN]: Well, they're doing the same on a card angle as all in.
[UNKNOWN]: And now they have announced events for New York City.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, for maybe a weekend.
[UNKNOWN]: And all that.
[UNKNOWN]: So let's do that.
[UNKNOWN]: We'll do those really quickly because I don't really care that much.
[UNKNOWN]: There's not that much to say, but, uh, oh, no.
[UNKNOWN]: Is this where you read off indie cards?
[UNKNOWN]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
[UNKNOWN]: I do have to take a piss.
[UNKNOWN]: That's what I kind of do too, but, uh, no.
[UNKNOWN]: Go now.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I talk about this.
[UNKNOWN]: Um, anyway, you guys are not going to believe this.
[UNKNOWN]: but Daredevil announced that they triple A, Daredevil World Collide Show, which by the way, can we get a different fucking name to do all these have to be worlds class?
[UNKNOWN]: Can they cost something anything but worlds class?
[UNKNOWN]: But anyway, they cannot.
[UNKNOWN]: So Daredevil announced that a triple A, Daredevil World Collide Show will take place in Chicago.
[UNKNOWN]: on the same day as all out in the exact same city as all out, unbelievable.
[UNKNOWN]: So all out of the second place from a Hoffman States, and they're going to have Hoffman States just outside of Chicago, and then world's Clyde will be I believe at the all state arena in Chicago as well.
[UNKNOWN]: So what are the chances that they would just so happen to announce?
[UNKNOWN]: It triple a world's Clyde show in Chicago, the same fucking day as all out.
[UNKNOWN]: So that's obvious what they're doing there.
[UNKNOWN]: And they're also doing a wrestling weekend.
[UNKNOWN]: thing in New York.
[UNKNOWN]: Now, you're saying to yourself, wait there in Saudi Arabia next year, WrestleMania weekend.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, yes, they are, but they announced that during Saturday's main event that they are going to do WrestleMania weekend events in New York City, while the main show takes place in Saudi Arabia.
[UNKNOWN]: So they'll have an NXT stand and deliver AAA eternal glory.
[UNKNOWN]: So at least they do have a different name.
[UNKNOWN]: They're not all just world's collide.
[UNKNOWN]: And official WrestleMania 33 watch parties.
[UNKNOWN]: that will be at the infos, I don't know what the fuck that, the theater mess is required guard.
[UNKNOWN]: Infos, cis, infos systems, I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: Mess is required during the weekend, so they will have different events going on, standard deliver, eternal glory, and rest minute 43 watch parties at the mess is required guard in theater during the weekend.
[UNKNOWN]: Now there was rumors that AW was cooking up something for that weekend as well.
[UNKNOWN]: Possibly a new york and it looks like there would be may have scooped them on that by announcing these things.
[UNKNOWN]: We'll see.
[UNKNOWN]: What Tony has up his sleeves, but have seen some reports that rumors and rumbleings that Tony was planning on doing something for WrestleMania weekend.
[UNKNOWN]: And I guess if he was doing New York, then we have a full-fledged WrestleMania weekend in New York, even though WrestleMania will be in Saudi Arabia.
[UNKNOWN]: So we'll see what ends up happening there.
[UNKNOWN]: So.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, that's exactly why they're doing that.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, of course.
[UNKNOWN]: They caught when Tony's probably doing something and probably doing it in New York.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I don't even know what you do.
[UNKNOWN]: Do you go through with it if you're A, W, do you do go to a different city?
[UNKNOWN]: No, I go through it.
[UNKNOWN]: Why not?
[UNKNOWN]: You just go through with it, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: And just, I'd say it's better.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, that makes it more obvious that there's gonna maybe be more people there and yeah, I would just go, I would just go for it.
[UNKNOWN]: Why not?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: I guess, um, I wouldn't be scared of any of these fucking.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, NXT and Triple A these days are not.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: That's, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: If you're a WWE, you're not scared of any of these.
[UNKNOWN]: And that's like the all-out weekend thing.
[UNKNOWN]: It's like, yeah, they're going to.
[UNKNOWN]: Especially without, especially without traveling fans, because if WrestleMania was in town,
[UNKNOWN]: There might be an audience, especially for AAA, because that feels hot right now.
[UNKNOWN]: NXT may be not, because no one cares about NXT anymore.
[UNKNOWN]: But there's not going to be draw traveling fans for NXT and AAA show.
[UNKNOWN]: They're just going to draw from whoever lives there.
[UNKNOWN]: Do you feel the same way?
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think people are going to travel for standing deliver in AAA eternal glory.
[UNKNOWN]: They're going to need a little bit more.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think so.
[UNKNOWN]: And the people who travel for the AEW stuff aren't going to be interested in NXT in AAA.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: Do you see what I'm saying?
[UNKNOWN]: No, no, I'm with you 100%.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's very interesting.
[UNKNOWN]: The WWE is taking this stance here.
[UNKNOWN]: I think that, and they're doing the theater in mass squared guard.
[UNKNOWN]: So they're not expecting
[UNKNOWN]: 15,000 people in the building like they understand it's going to be not that big of an audience.
[UNKNOWN]: It's going to be there.
[UNKNOWN]: So they just want to have a presence in America during WrestleMania weekend to kind of you know cloud the fact that we're doing it in fucking Saudi Arabia this year and they're doing it because Tony is is going to announce something and they're trying to scoop it is what I'm guessing yeah that's exactly what it is and they want to even if they're those shows flat out bomb
[UNKNOWN]: it's people who won't be going to whatever a W is doing.
[UNKNOWN]: And taking the headlines away.
[UNKNOWN]: We always talk about this.
[UNKNOWN]: It's also also the PR game.
[UNKNOWN]: The PR game would be if Tony's going to run some big stadium show in New York.
[UNKNOWN]: He's going to be at the Armstrong Stadium or whatever.
[UNKNOWN]: I think they're working on that one or whatever.
[UNKNOWN]: But that's great.
[UNKNOWN]: I guess.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, do something like that.
[UNKNOWN]: Do one of those.
[UNKNOWN]: And be the WWE's in Saudi Arabia for their WrestleMania.
[UNKNOWN]: But we're right here in the United States, putting on this tremendous wrestling card or whatever.
[UNKNOWN]: You want to take the headlines away and have, I stand at the Lippers also happening.
[UNKNOWN]: And eternal glory is also happening.
[UNKNOWN]: And these things are also happening.
[UNKNOWN]: That's what they want.
[UNKNOWN]: They don't want it to be 100% hey, AW is is, you know.
[UNKNOWN]: fighting against Rustamini being in Saudi Arabia, they want, well yeah, AWS running in New York, but also that next season is running in New York.
[UNKNOWN]: Trump always running in New York.
[UNKNOWN]: There's an official watch party and there's, to be world is taking place in New York.
[UNKNOWN]: You know what I mean?
[UNKNOWN]: They went all that shit too.
[UNKNOWN]: So, yeah, these are going to probably not do very well, but they don't care.
[UNKNOWN]: So, it takes...
[UNKNOWN]: any amount of of market share or attention away that's that's that's really all they're going through cw under the bus they don't care that it didn't nobody watched remember it doesn't matter to them it's just it's the it's the those same factors that you just need that's what matters to them so yeah here we go again yep
[UNKNOWN]: All right, let's, let's preview.
[UNKNOWN]: AWS Redemption coming up this Sunday.
[UNKNOWN]: Hey, by the way, instant reaction live for this show.
[UNKNOWN]: Instant reaction live $10 to your flagship patron.com.
[UNKNOWN]: The best post-Paperview review show in the business.
[UNKNOWN]: I'll be live Sunday night.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm neatly following Redemption.
[UNKNOWN]: So now you did the Thursday, Dynamo Review this week.
[UNKNOWN]: Talk a little bit about the card.
[UNKNOWN]: Delvin to a little bit of what's going on with this Redemption pay review.
[UNKNOWN]: I like your discussion about it being, you know, it's a cash grab.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, this paper review does not need to exist, but, no, it's all right, no, whatever.
[UNKNOWN]: That's it.
[UNKNOWN]: It's a pretty good looking card on paper.
[UNKNOWN]: It's probably going to be a very good show, because AWS favorite shows are all pretty good, but yeah, this one is of all the new additional AWS paper views that have been added, this one feels like.
[UNKNOWN]: that we really need this option but we didn't but yeah so the conversation I had on the review was that this is the first first time Tony's doing a paper view and it feels forced feels like you're just forced in one but you can kind of see the mindset behind it you know even if to show bombs it's probably gonna do about $3 million and bottom line revenue between
[UNKNOWN]: the paper view buys and and the live gate.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: All of that.
[UNKNOWN]: So I mean from that standpoint.
[UNKNOWN]: And then, you know, it is an opportunity to give Kevin night a paper view main event, which I think is important for his development, whether it bombs or not.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think the show will do well.
[UNKNOWN]: because people are getting, they see, Wembley is the more important show, Kevin Knightson on proven main event draw.
[UNKNOWN]: If the show does well, great.
[UNKNOWN]: Massive feather in the cap of Kenny Omega in Kevin Knight.
[UNKNOWN]: If it doesn't do well, who cares, this is good for Kevin Knight to establish him, to continue helping to establish him as a main event guy.
[UNKNOWN]: So I can see people's complaints, if you're a big AEW fan, you feel like you're getting built out of another 50 bucks, if you're someone who just,
[UNKNOWN]: You have the foe mo, you don't want to miss anything they do, you're a big fan.
[UNKNOWN]: I could see where you think, you know, this is Tony's, this is a cash grab.
[UNKNOWN]: We don't need to have a paper view in between forbidden door and all in.
[UNKNOWN]: And from the company's standpoint, and I totally understand that mindset.
[UNKNOWN]: From the company's standpoint, I understand it, though, because...
[UNKNOWN]: Even if it doesn't do well, 80, 90,000 buys, 100,000 buys, you know, it's that 3 million bucks.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, that's going to pay the salary of one of their top line stars, pick one.
[UNKNOWN]: That's about what a top line star makes, and you just took care of it in one weekend by simply adding another pay per view.
[UNKNOWN]: So you see the business reasons for why they're doing this, and even if
[UNKNOWN]: It's kind of a hindrance from a storytelling standpoint, because it's kind of this shoehorned paper view.
[UNKNOWN]: Now, it has a bunch of matches that look like you're gonna be really good.
[UNKNOWN]: So if you don't care about the business side of Pro Wrestling, and you have the expendable income where you don't mind dropping another 50 bucks this week, you're gonna be treated to what I think is gonna be a really great paper view.
[UNKNOWN]: So from that standpoint, if you don't care about
[UNKNOWN]: Business side of it and don't mind paying the money then this you know, but I have seen some complaints where it's like, because this really does feel like the first AEW New paper view Where Tony is really just kind of We're just doesn't feel like a natural fit for when he's having it
[UNKNOWN]: This should be the run-up to all-in.
[UNKNOWN]: Right, right, right, it's fun.
[UNKNOWN]: It is weird road bump in the way.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and when it was first announced, it was in Montreal, and it was called Redemption.
[UNKNOWN]: Everybody's like, oh, that's when they're going to put the title on Kenny.
[UNKNOWN]: They needed this paper view to put the title on Kenny, and then they just did it on TV anyway.
[UNKNOWN]: So it's like, oh, now we really don't need this paper view.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, you know, I talk about that on the review.
[UNKNOWN]: I think that was a smart move.
[UNKNOWN]: Again, from a business perspective, because you used Kenny and MJF to pop a number, but it did pop a number.
[UNKNOWN]: So you get the best of both worlds, you pop a number on TV and you do this paper view where, you know, Tony would never admit this.
[UNKNOWN]: He would love to do 170,000 paper view buys.
[UNKNOWN]: I think he knows he's not going to.
[UNKNOWN]: And I don't think he cares.
[UNKNOWN]: This is just another opportunity.
[UNKNOWN]: There was a window in the calendar.
[UNKNOWN]: He felt there was enough weeks in between for Bindor and all in, the sneak one in there.
[UNKNOWN]: But if you're someone who doesn't look at things like that and don't care about that and you just like enjoying AEW, I can totally see why you think that this paper view is just some weird roadblock in between the two big paper views, where it's kind of just in the way and intrusive, especially because they're dating due to titles which here.
[UNKNOWN]: But I get why they didn't do titles which here.
[UNKNOWN]: It actually makes more sense and not to do the title switch on the show, where you pop the number on TV, and then you do this kind of placeholder main.
[UNKNOWN]: The problem is, it takes all the juice out of this, no one thinks night can win, so that's why I think it's going to bomb.
[UNKNOWN]: And I don't think they put enough on the show to support the week main event.
[UNKNOWN]: There's not a lot of other drawing matches on the show.
[UNKNOWN]: mjf is taking care of his knee.
[UNKNOWN]: Swerv, everyone thinks he's going to do a big angle on this show, but he's not announced.
[UNKNOWN]: Mercedes is off.
[UNKNOWN]: Hangman came back two weeks ago and disappeared again.
[UNKNOWN]: So you have a lot of big stars who are on this show.
[UNKNOWN]: So you have a lot of Mark Davis for a song, Droughty.
[UNKNOWN]: Which, okay, I'll watch them.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm fine with this.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I actually love this paper view lineup.
[UNKNOWN]: This is a pretty, in my, like, I actually kind of like that it's a, it doesn't feel as heavy.
[UNKNOWN]: Some of these eight, I'm very, it feels so heavy with all these big matches.
[UNKNOWN]: All right, this is like, it feels kind of like an in-your-house paper view.
[UNKNOWN]: And I mean, that couple of memory in a good way.
[UNKNOWN]: where it's like, there's some goofy matches on the show.
[UNKNOWN]: There's, you know, the stars are in a tag match or whatever.
[UNKNOWN]: And you have this, like, you know, world title challenger that has no chance of winning.
[UNKNOWN]: But, but that's fine.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't mind that.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't necessarily need every A.W.
[UNKNOWN]: You pay for you to feel heavy and have, you know, nine consequential matches.
[UNKNOWN]: Like, it's fine to just have a show with a bunch of stipulation, right?
[UNKNOWN]: I'm excited about most of the show.
[UNKNOWN]: Like, I'm actually more excited about this paper view than I am.
[UNKNOWN]: A lot of A.W.
[UNKNOWN]: shows because it doesn't feel like it's going to be that heavy.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, oh my god, everything is just this battle of life and death in this gigantic story that's been told and it's it both guys are gonna be bloody and battered like It's just a couple of guys there might just be some matches with the wrestling you so then you fall into the category of what I was talking about earlier of just a fan who watches everything Has the disposable income and just is gonna enjoy a night of wrestling.
[UNKNOWN]: I think so that's the standpoint you're coming from so I mean you know and and that's fine, but
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, anyway, before we get in the preview and to show in addition to that Thursday dynamite review where I break down what I just said and excruciatingly more detail, there's also the nightly G1 reviews that are going, did you know that G1 is going on?
[UNKNOWN]: I do know that G1 is going on.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, G1 climax.
[UNKNOWN]: So, nightly G1 reviews as per usual, behind the paywall for every night of the G1, you did night one from a live perspective, I did the ensuing four nights, I get a couple of days off here before the tournament gets rolling again so you get that fire festival, every night of the fire festival has been covered behind the paywall as soon as they come out on the app.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm worth the mercy of the app, but as soon as they come out on the app,
[UNKNOWN]: I get those reviews up as soon as possible.
[UNKNOWN]: And then tons of content behind the paywall and particularly this week on top of all of that, I'd matched the squeeze in another flagship.
[UNKNOWN]: Plus, right, Todd, did you know the NAWA anniversary as this weekend?
[UNKNOWN]: Right, yeah, yeah, I did, duh.
[UNKNOWN]: That was a great segment, by the way, talking about the NAWA and all that.
[UNKNOWN]: But yeah, I would love to preview the NAWA 73rd anniversary, but we're never going to watch it, so there's no point doing it.
[UNKNOWN]: So there's a great flagship plus breaking down the segment.
[UNKNOWN]: The segment that Rivers just talked about breaking down the NWA and their early viewership numbers on comets and the the the the NWA and power, the second attempt that empower, which is coming up next month in August and I do a look back at the first empower and why it didn't work financially and why they never followed up on it until five years later.
[UNKNOWN]: what the differences are going to be between the first and power and the power that they do this year.
[UNKNOWN]: So I think I did a 45 or 50 minute segment talking about the NWA on that flagship plus an addition to a review of the latest MLW on Fusion.
[UNKNOWN]: You just put out another show in, what's the name of that series?
[UNKNOWN]: Red White and Brews.
[UNKNOWN]: Look at my great American Bash minivants, yep.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so go ahead and tell people why I've been doing yeah, they're going through a random selection of great American Bash main events as as I'm rhyming around that out for July I wanted to do it for the the 4th of July in America 15 all that sort of stuff.
[UNKNOWN]: I'll end it in July and do something else After that, but I spent a lot of fun We watched the very first great American Bash to us heroes versus Tony Blanchard These are all available to watch for free on on YouTube as well, so then we watch the first ever
[UNKNOWN]: Wargames match up by the history of board games and actually really enjoyed that match I hadn't watched it in many many years really enjoyed it Then we watched Funk versus Flair from a great America match 89 that when I was gonna rigged no matter what I the rest of these were randomized that when I was absolutely gonna 100% rig Then we just watched the 1997 Diamond Dahls page versus Randy Savage match
[UNKNOWN]: I've never conclude with a great American bash 2000, the final great American bash, so it's been fun, kind of exploring these shows and I know that a lot of people have enjoyed watching going back and watching some of these things as well.
[UNKNOWN]: So yeah, I'll do that finish that series up and then something new will come up in August.
[UNKNOWN]: So I really want to get going on my Randy Savage versus Cherry Loller in Memphis.
[UNKNOWN]: feud audio documentary.
[UNKNOWN]: I have it pretty much ready to go.
[UNKNOWN]: I just have to kind of put everything together There is somebody that I might be uh somebody that you might remember from last year's Audio maybe the rest of him is ever hall of fame I've been talking about maybe coming on to help me discuss a little bit about the buildup of Savage versus Laura because he was There and watching it live so I thought that'd be kind of fun to do so
[UNKNOWN]: In communications with that and hopefully we can make that happen because I'd be a nice way to a cap off that series, the Savage vs. Lawler series.
[UNKNOWN]: So I hope you'll open it up very soon, but plenty of stuff available for you guys at Flagship Patreon.com.
[UNKNOWN]: Look at that.
[UNKNOWN]: That's just this week.
[UNKNOWN]: That's what's coming up.
[UNKNOWN]: That's what we're doing this weekend.
[UNKNOWN]: That's where we're possibly doing next week on what's summer slam.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, there is a shit ton of stuff available for you guys there at FlagshipPatreon.com.
[UNKNOWN]: So, there we go.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that paywall, I mean, every day, there's at least one new piece of content, usually more than one right now.
[UNKNOWN]: So if you're jumping in for the instant reaction live this weekend, it's actually a perfect time to come in to get on the $10 tier and you're going to get everything that we just talked about and plus everything else that's back there in the archives.
[UNKNOWN]: plus the instant reaction live coming up this weekend.
[UNKNOWN]: So every G1 review that's coming up and everything.
[UNKNOWN]: So this is the kind of, this is the time of year where you're going to get in scene value.
[UNKNOWN]: And then obviously, you know, summer slam the weekend after that would get covered as well in your 30 days.
[UNKNOWN]: So, great time to get on.
[UNKNOWN]: Anyway, AEW Redemption.
[UNKNOWN]: So the show itself has 10 matches.
[UNKNOWN]: And
[UNKNOWN]: As we said, Kenny Omega, Kevin Knight on top, I kind of gave my take on that already.
[UNKNOWN]: I think it's a great step in Kevin Knight's continued elevation to have him in the paper of your main event, and this is the perfect time to do it.
[UNKNOWN]: So I understand the argument that people would have rather have had Kenny and MJF happen here.
[UNKNOWN]: I get it, but I think I'm with Tony.
[UNKNOWN]: I think I would have done that on TV and popped the number because now you get the best of both worlds, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe this paper view would have done a couple extra buys.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm sure it would have if it was MJF and Kenny Omega.
[UNKNOWN]: It undoubtedly would have.
[UNKNOWN]: But I think you sacrifice a couple hundred thousand dollars to keep your TV hot because their TV is hot.
[UNKNOWN]: So I think that was a good idea doing that match on Dynumite, keeping the TV hot because as we know, the media rights is number one.
[UNKNOWN]: It's more important than the paper of your revenue and they've obviously got things moving in the right direction there.
[UNKNOWN]: Obviously Kevin Knight has 0% chance of winning this title.
[UNKNOWN]: What are your thoughts on Kenny Omega and Kevin Knight?
[UNKNOWN]: I think it's a fun booking.
[UNKNOWN]: I like it.
[UNKNOWN]: It's again, yes.
[UNKNOWN]: Everybody knows that Kevin Knight is not going to win.
[UNKNOWN]: It's up to them to do a couple spots in this match.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm sure they'll have a spot or two where you're like, you know, maybe And then you're in it.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, well, not of course not.
[UNKNOWN]: Of course not win in this match, but it's a good establishment.
[UNKNOWN]: It is and I think they've done a tremendous job pushing Kevin night over over the last several months.
[UNKNOWN]: I think
[UNKNOWN]: I've been very critical of AEW sometimes in pushing young talent and getting young talent ready for the next step.
[UNKNOWN]: And we'll see with Kevin Knight, like if he's in the same position a year from now, a year and a half from now, two years from now, then yeah, then I can kind of criticize it.
[UNKNOWN]: But for right now, I think his elevation and the steps up have been very well done.
[UNKNOWN]: And now he gets this title match and he'll lose it.
[UNKNOWN]: And that's going to be, you know, his, the first of what is hopefully many, taught of matches for Kevin Knight.
[UNKNOWN]: But I think it's a good establishing
[UNKNOWN]: match and I think it's gonna go out there and I I can't imagine it's gonna be a bad match I imagine it's gonna be a really really great match and that can that will only help cover night in the future And I think it's it's good to kind of establish him as a title challenger and yeah, I think it's I mean That's how some people Skawf at it, but I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: I think it's a pretty good booking.
[UNKNOWN]: I think it's pretty cool.
[UNKNOWN]: I think you're either gonna have can you make a look great?
[UNKNOWN]: ahead of all in, which is fine.
[UNKNOWN]: You're going to have Kevin night potentially look good and look like a player, which is good.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't understand what the downside would be other than like, ah, it's predictable, but I don't mind that as much, I guess, as some other people do.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't necessarily need every world title match to be.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know who's going to win this.
[UNKNOWN]: I think it's pretty cool that we kind of know that Kenny is going to win it, but at least we know that Kevin night is getting a big spot here and moving up the ladder.
[UNKNOWN]: So
[UNKNOWN]: get it.
[UNKNOWN]: It feels like a television title defense though.
[UNKNOWN]: I get that.
[UNKNOWN]: And that's because a W has established that they'll do lots of world title matches on TV and they're usually world title matches that look like this, right?
[UNKNOWN]: So they've kind of
[UNKNOWN]: set their own bar and that regard and it's just it's a new paper view, no one was expecting it and it's kind of just in the way of the bill to all in.
[UNKNOWN]: So it's new and it's different and that's scary for people and it's not the traditional big-time world title main event.
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, but yeah, and in this specific spot, like if this was your World Title main event for one of their, you know, original four paper views or something, maybe you can complain that it's a little too weak, particularly with the weaker undercard, but yeah, no, I think this is, I don't want to keep saying it over and over will move on.
[UNKNOWN]: I just think it's great for Kevin nights.
[UNKNOWN]: Continue trajectory.
[UNKNOWN]: Tecla versus Willow, Nightingale, most people expect Willow to win this because then you do Willow and Mercedes and continue their saga at Wembley.
[UNKNOWN]: And that feels like a bigger match than Tecla and Mercedes, but does it?
[UNKNOWN]: Because Tecla is a, man, I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: It's been a great champion.
[UNKNOWN]: And she almost at this point deserves to have the big match at Wembley.
[UNKNOWN]: But Tecla and Mercedes would be a weird build, I think, it'd be kind of weird energy and a weird build, where Willow and Mercedes is easy and it's kind of like, they're sort of the ongoing long-term arc for each other too.
[UNKNOWN]: So that match is also very befitting of Wembley.
[UNKNOWN]: So if Tecla loses here,
[UNKNOWN]: I think it sucks for Tecla, because I think Tecla has worked hard, I think Tecla has gotten over and I think Tecla has established herself as a top woman on the women's side of the roster and to get bumped in the midst of what has been a successful title reign for the biggest show of the year is a bad beat.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, that sucks.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's one of these things where it feels like she's maybe earned the chance to go into Wembley with the title, you understand why they probably wouldn't go that way and why the long-term story has kind of been will versus Mercedes, but, man, this is one of those things where I know that is maybe what you wrote down six months ago that you wanted to have happened, but, okay, the text was pretty undeniable right now, so I don't know, I, I, I, I, I
[UNKNOWN]: If I'm Tony, I would really, really have to think about it, and he's probably just going to go with Willow and Mercedes, because that's the match that he wanted.
[UNKNOWN]: That's the match that people kind of think fits.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's one of these things where it's like, that sucks to take the title off time.
[UNKNOWN]: She has done nothing.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I don't feel like we're seeing the end of it either.
[UNKNOWN]: It's not like one of these title reigns where you're like, yeah, we're getting a little long in the two.
[UNKNOWN]: Let's move that title off.
[UNKNOWN]: Like I still think there's a lot of juice left in, in, in, in tackle as champion.
[UNKNOWN]: So I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: We're going to see.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I, I'm the betting favorite.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm sure is Willow and I'm guessing that Willow is going to win.
[UNKNOWN]: But yeah, I would, I'd have to at least have a pretty strong conversation about, well, can we maybe just do Teclin Mercedes?
[UNKNOWN]: drop out of the tournament because of injury and then come back from injury very quickly to not have her in this world title match, right?
[UNKNOWN]: So this is what we're doing here.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean obvious.
[UNKNOWN]: I yeah, she's yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: The debilitating shoulder injury that lasted three weeks and now she's back.
[UNKNOWN]: So let me, um, I don't know nothing about that.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, not specially on that.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm
[UNKNOWN]: tackle Willow match.
[UNKNOWN]: So next up, we have one, looking for that.
[UNKNOWN]: National title Mark Davis and on Droughty.
[UNKNOWN]: So eventually we'll get to another MJF on Droughty match I would think.
[UNKNOWN]: It's not going to happen on this show.
[UNKNOWN]: I think on Droughty also would have to be a pretty strong favorite to win the belt here.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if it's more Davis beating him by the way.
[UNKNOWN]: No odds on Teclo willow.
[UNKNOWN]: I have odds on four other matches on the show.
[UNKNOWN]: Kenny Omega is minus 3000.
[UNKNOWN]: to beat Kevin Knight.
[UNKNOWN]: You put a dollar on Kevin Knight.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, something happens, Kenny, you know.
[UNKNOWN]: It's 900.
[UNKNOWN]: Kenny has some debilitating injury early on the match.
[UNKNOWN]: They decided to pivot.
[UNKNOWN]: It's a guy.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, they probably did.
[UNKNOWN]: Anyone listening has an information that they're going to shock the world on Sunday and put the title on Kevin.
[UNKNOWN]: Please let us know.
[UNKNOWN]: Let me know.
[UNKNOWN]: I would appreciate that information.
[UNKNOWN]: Three other matches I've odds, I'll get to them when we get to them.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, preview.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I would imagine I'd try to get to the win here and win this title from Mark Davis, but there's a way that you can have somebody come in and interfere and because maybe you don't want to try to have this match, because you don't want to take it or this title, keep it away.
[UNKNOWN]: Keep it because you need something from Mark Davis to do with the title.
[UNKNOWN]: So maybe, but yeah, I would guess that I'd try to probably win this one.
[UNKNOWN]: The pain maker, first to muscle, champa.
[UNKNOWN]: No, that was hard.
[UNKNOWN]: I gotta thought we'd tell it this.
[UNKNOWN]: He just makes you think of the fresh maker.
[UNKNOWN]: You just think of mentos every time with the pain maker.
[UNKNOWN]: Now you will.
[UNKNOWN]: But I thought it was weird that this wasn't on forbidden door.
[UNKNOWN]: And I chalked it up to maybe not fitting the theme of the show.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, well, then they did a beach blast.
[UNKNOWN]: They finished it off in beach blast.
[UNKNOWN]: or beach break.
[UNKNOWN]: But I fuck.
[UNKNOWN]: I did the preview.
[UNKNOWN]: I did the review of the Thursday Dynamo review for that week and I warned everybody I was going to call it beach blast at least five times.
[UNKNOWN]: And I think I did like a couple times, but beach break, beach breaks.
[UNKNOWN]: Sting versus recruits.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: So, and also I think maybe they held it off because they knew they had this paper view come in, which was going to need some stuff, you know, and they probably still view Chris Jericho as some type of draw.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if that's even true anymore, but I'm sure they view it that way.
[UNKNOWN]: So, here we are, the pain maker who hasn't been, they didn't give a lot of TV time for the last couple of week.
[UNKNOWN]: He got a couple pre-tapes.
[UNKNOWN]: to put over the pain maker gimmick and that's about it.
[UNKNOWN]: So no holds barred match to muscle champa and the pain maker.
[UNKNOWN]: So champa will do a bunch of crazy ass shit.
[UNKNOWN]: So of course, you know that.
[UNKNOWN]: Kyle Fletcher, defense the international title against Bandito.
[UNKNOWN]: Everybody's banned from ringside.
[UNKNOWN]: This is probably the betting line favorite for match of the night.
[UNKNOWN]: Either that or Kenny Omega Kevin Knight, right?
[UNKNOWN]: So look, they have a lot of stuff going on with Kyle Fletcher.
[UNKNOWN]: He got into it with Kevin Knight on Dynamite.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, Kada is being very passive aggressive towards him.
[UNKNOWN]: He's got this Bandito match in front of him.
[UNKNOWN]: But the fact that he's got all these other side feuds, Bruin, tell me that he's getting through this.
[UNKNOWN]: And also the fact that what was it last week or the week before, we went through Bandito's booking record and this guy just never fucking wins.
[UNKNOWN]: He never wins.
[UNKNOWN]: No, Bandito's not winning this match.
[UNKNOWN]: So, Fletcher is probably surviving this, despite the fact that usually the baby face is the one who prevails when it's everyone is banned from ringside.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so with that, because I was gonna think of, okay, if there's a way to get this title off a Fletcher and two bandito, you could do some nefarious thing or everybody forward, if we're beholden to the everybody's banned from ringside, then yeah, Fletcher's probably just gonna blend this one.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: unless you want him to lose and kind of work on his baby face turn and right because you could you could have that where he loses and then call us you know berate him and or caught a berate him and night berate him and that if you want to start that because I think
[UNKNOWN]: My guess is that this guy's win in the C2 like kind of feels like that kind of guy this this year like a guy who at least should be a contender in the C2 Because that's not he's not he's not long for the dot chaos family.
[UNKNOWN]: He's clearly gonna turn baby face at some point break free from them and and go do whatever he's gonna do.
[UNKNOWN]: So I don't know yeah, I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm trying to think of a scenario where Bandito could get this win and I guess
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you could just do it, and then Fletcher just gets paraded or whatever.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not sure.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, well, what I was saying was the everyone banned from ringside usually favors the baby face.
[UNKNOWN]: Right, is what I was saying.
[UNKNOWN]: Right, because Kyle would like have the dark house.
[UNKNOWN]: It could have help.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, right.
[UNKNOWN]: So that's how I was approaching it.
[UNKNOWN]: And you're right, if Bandito does win, Kyle can somehow maybe figure out a way to blame the fact that he did not yet.
[UNKNOWN]: You can do something like that.
[UNKNOWN]: I just think he'll retain because I think they're building towards Fletcher and Ocata for this bill right I mean because Ocata is annoyed that Fletcher has this belt yeah Ocata sees this as his belt so I think that's the Wembley match is probably Fletcher and Ocata right that's for my head goes to yes I think that he was we're trying to protect Bandito because he's the Rwit Champion but Tony does a pretty big thing so we don't have to
[UNKNOWN]: All right, coping cage versus the death rider team of Claudio and Pock for the tag titles, this just wreaks of placeholder title defense, and so we get to coping cage versus the bucks.
[UNKNOWN]: So you're just hoping it's a good match.
[UNKNOWN]: What I should we say.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, that's it.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: That's it.
[UNKNOWN]: They did exactly one angle, and they did it last night where they attacked them, you know, boiler plate shit, and that was that.
[UNKNOWN]: Mox and Wilvers, the young bucks, uh, this is going to be awesome.
[UNKNOWN]: The match sounds.
[UNKNOWN]: It doesn't.
[UNKNOWN]: It does.
[UNKNOWN]: But it's going to be a story, Matt.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, this is going to be, whatever chapter, you know what annoyed me last night.
[UNKNOWN]: What annoyed me was when Mox will and Kenny were teaming together and there are so many faces.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, the faces.
[UNKNOWN]: The faces.
[UNKNOWN]: They're, they're, they're all passive aggressively getting along for now.
[UNKNOWN]: Will's going to make a tag and he's conflicted.
[UNKNOWN]: Who do I tag?
[UNKNOWN]: Right?
[UNKNOWN]: And he's making these goofy faces and he's looking back and forth.
[UNKNOWN]: And Hetchess Saro is just has to sell this stupid arm ringer for like 30 seconds because Will can't figure out who to tag.
[UNKNOWN]: So the point where even the commentary was trying to cover for that because
[UNKNOWN]: I think it was Chavani was like, well, well, better hurry up and make it the surgery because Hatcha Saro can reverse this in a hurry.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm like Tony.
[UNKNOWN]: This guy's been in this arm ringer for 45 seconds.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think he's gonna reverse it any time soon.
[UNKNOWN]: And poor Hatcha Saro, he's slapping the shoulder, like, I like still trying to figure out ways to try to sell this arm ringer, you know?
[UNKNOWN]: And it's like,
[UNKNOWN]: It's just so heavy-handed and over-wrought and subtlety hammer, sports entertainment bullshit, the way that they worked that match last night, and I feel like that's what this match is gonna have a lot of that, because it's just going to the next evolution, the bucks don't trust moxley, which means they don't trust will and there's a trade for Kenny, moxley and will at some point, you know,
[UNKNOWN]: we all assume mocks is going to turn on them.
[UNKNOWN]: I think there's an outside chance that it's actually will that's going to turn on mocks.
[UNKNOWN]: Um, I pitched that on last week's TV review.
[UNKNOWN]: It's like, get some before you get, you know, it says I knew I know you're going to turn on me.
[UNKNOWN]: So I got you ahead of time.
[UNKNOWN]: I got you before he gets me, but no, my my theory is more.
[UNKNOWN]: He doesn't, he still doesn't like mocks.
[UNKNOWN]: He still doesn't like the death riders, but he knows that they can help him achieve his goal of winning the world title.
[UNKNOWN]: But then once he does,
[UNKNOWN]: Then he's going to turn on Mox because fuck that guy, he broke my neck, he beat the shit out of me, he put me out, I used you, I took advantage of you, and that's his motivation to then turn on Mox because once he wins the title, he doesn't need Mox anymore, and he doesn't have to pretend that he likes the guy, but he knew intellectually, it was a best move because he knew that Mox could teach him what he was missing to finally win the world title.
[UNKNOWN]: What do you think it at?
[UNKNOWN]: That's my angle.
[UNKNOWN]: And that was he still a baby face in the scenario that you have here.
[UNKNOWN]: To me, it's probably a heel turn.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
[UNKNOWN]: And it doesn't have to happen at Wembley.
[UNKNOWN]: You could have the big moment at Wembley.
[UNKNOWN]: He could have a couple, you know, you could even wait till, you know, whenever to fuck the next pay per view.
[UNKNOWN]: But I think the fact that everyone thinks it's gonna be mocks, I think they might zig instead of zagging and I think Will might turn on him with that kind of motivation.
[UNKNOWN]: behind it like hey look yeah well because a lot of people are saying like oh it makes will look like an idiot because he's just sitting here and we all know that box is going to turn on him but yeah that might be the pivot is like will turns on him instead will turns on him instead so and then you let the fans take it wherever they want to take it if they don't like that they'll boom if they like it they'll cheer if you don't like it I can take that
[UNKNOWN]: But this match here, I think is going to be very heavy-handed, subtlety hammer style storytelling, because of all the elements surrounding it.
[UNKNOWN]: Right, every tag is going to be a long drawn out.
[UNKNOWN]: They're going to look at each other, and yeah, a lot of faces.
[UNKNOWN]: So get ready for faces up and down this match, but it's, I mean, cottage, it's still be fucking good though, right?
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, it's still, I know it's, I know there's going to be a lot of faces, but it's still the young bucks in the death writers.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: I have high hopes for it, still.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm sure, I mean, it could be awesome, but do you know you're getting some kind of wacky angle at the end of this thing?
[UNKNOWN]: No, whether it's the finish or after the finish or something.
[UNKNOWN]: Karushita TBS title in my world, I don't give a single fucking shit about the match.
[UNKNOWN]: No.
[UNKNOWN]: I can't stand a Karushita.
[UNKNOWN]: I think she's one of the worst, she's the shit, and I cannot believe we're doing another sheet of push.
[UNKNOWN]: I have all the women on this roster that's the one we're going to, again, is she this stuff?
[UNKNOWN]: So this match has, this show has 10 matches.
[UNKNOWN]: He's starting at an hour early, okay?
[UNKNOWN]: So there's that aspect.
[UNKNOWN]: Um, but there is the extra match, there's usually nine, there's always a match or two that doesn't need to be on these pay and this is it this show you do this is a collision as match.
[UNKNOWN]: You don't need this match on this pay for you.
[UNKNOWN]: You don't
[UNKNOWN]: Get rid of it.
[UNKNOWN]: And there's another match too that I did not want on this paper view that I know is going to go 18 minutes too long.
[UNKNOWN]: We're going to get to it.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, while you're at it, you get rid of his ladder match.
[UNKNOWN]: You can get rid of that too.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, well, that one too.
[UNKNOWN]: I forgot about the ladder match.
[UNKNOWN]: That's the one I was going to say.
[UNKNOWN]: So we know everybody now, right?
[UNKNOWN]: It's Jack Perry, Mike Bailey, Beast Mortos, Nick Wayne, L. Clone, Commander, and that's it, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's it.
[UNKNOWN]: So number one contender for the international title,
[UNKNOWN]: I'm sure it'll be a fun car crash for people who can still muster the enthusiasm for these kinds of matches.
[UNKNOWN]: It ain't me.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, like that, no, a lot of times.
[UNKNOWN]: No, I could, if there was, if I'd never had to watch a multi-person ladder match ever again, I'd be a happy man.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm fine.
[UNKNOWN]: I've had my fill in my life of multi-person ladder matches.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm good.
[UNKNOWN]: Forever.
[UNKNOWN]: So that means you're not into
[UNKNOWN]: the double chain tag match, you like you.
[UNKNOWN]: That's the match.
[UNKNOWN]: This is going to be in the semi-main event.
[UNKNOWN]: And the match is going to go, you know, 27 minutes.
[UNKNOWN]: And we're all going to be looking at our watches going to own it.
[UNKNOWN]: It's a week.
[UNKNOWN]: It's a Sunday.
[UNKNOWN]: Do we have to have this met?
[UNKNOWN]: No, I am not into this match.
[UNKNOWN]: Listen, I have questions for you, though.
[UNKNOWN]: What the fuck is a double chain match?
[UNKNOWN]: Is this a dog, a double dog collar?
[UNKNOWN]: Is this?
[UNKNOWN]: They didn't say dog collar.
[UNKNOWN]: They did.
[UNKNOWN]: So is this pit bull's verse raven in Stevie Richards?
[UNKNOWN]: Is this FTR versus the briskos?
[UNKNOWN]: Or is this something different entirely?
[UNKNOWN]: What the fuck is it?
[UNKNOWN]: Did they not want to call it a double dog collar match for some reason?
[UNKNOWN]: And that's what it is.
[UNKNOWN]: Double chain tag match is there just two chains available to use as a weapon?
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know what it says.
[UNKNOWN]: but I think the fact that it's a double chain match if it's a double dog collar match and the dogs are in the match okay so I think that's what this is i'm gonna be into this i love a dog collar match a dog collar match but why wouldn't they just call it a dog if it's gonna be a dog collar match why would not you say the dogs the team name is the dogs are in a dog collar match that seems
[UNKNOWN]: I agree.
[UNKNOWN]: That's why I'm asking you.
[UNKNOWN]: Do you know what the fuck this is?
[UNKNOWN]: No.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't understand why it's a double chain.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: Double chain.
[UNKNOWN]: Tag match.
[UNKNOWN]: Double chain.
[UNKNOWN]: I guess you're saying that the wrists may be right.
[UNKNOWN]: You're changing the wrist.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: That's possible.
[UNKNOWN]: But the dog.
[UNKNOWN]: Why would the dogs not want a dog collar match though?
[UNKNOWN]: Why not just do the dog collar match?
[UNKNOWN]: It's always a winner.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: You could dog collar Jay White to thinly
[UNKNOWN]: and used to Clark, Clark, and then, you know, those are always good.
[UNKNOWN]: Are you excited about another J.
[UNKNOWN]: Why David Finley for you?
[UNKNOWN]: No.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, I'm not excited about anything related to those two men.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not excited about anything related to J.
[UNKNOWN]: Why I'm not excited about anything related to David Finley, and I don't understand how people can still be excited about J.
[UNKNOWN]: White in the year of 2026.
[UNKNOWN]: I, he came back and he was like, oh, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: I was like fine with him being gone.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I am just so jay-white it out even though he's always gone He's always hurt.
[UNKNOWN]: He's never there.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know why but then I see him and I'm like, I fuck I got the watch that's fucking guy have boring ass matches again Talk after match and the David Finley is just a total zilch.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not people have been trying for years to
[UNKNOWN]: convinced me that he's actually good and he is, I am, no, he is, he is dragged down Clark Conner's, I think.
[UNKNOWN]: I think Clark Conner's is doing a lot of good stuff before Finley came in, but this is a good role for David Finley, I get it, but I just don't, well, I don't care about David Finley, and I don't care about Jay White, and I really don't care about a Jay White David Finley feud, so no, I don't care.
[UNKNOWN]: You know my favorite dog?
[UNKNOWN]: Yellow dog?
[UNKNOWN]: Drill a baloney.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: think of the energy of this team if it was Clark and Drilla.
[UNKNOWN]: He is having such a good G1.
[UNKNOWN]: He's just going out there and wrestling.
[UNKNOWN]: Do you think my man bet on himself?
[UNKNOWN]: Do you think he got the call was made?
[UNKNOWN]: I said talk dad.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm staying in New Japan.
[UNKNOWN]: I talked about that.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm one of the G1 reviews.
[UNKNOWN]: And
[UNKNOWN]: I think that whether that was intentional or unintentional, and I don't know why Tony wouldn't want him.
[UNKNOWN]: He's looking.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, look at him.
[UNKNOWN]: He's a great wrestler.
[UNKNOWN]: TV look.
[UNKNOWN]: Either way, I think it's going to work to his benefit because I think he has a chance this year and maybe even the year after to really establish himself and make himself a bigger star, rather than just the fourth guy in the dogs.
[UNKNOWN]: You know what I mean?
[UNKNOWN]: So, there are already setting up a feud with Gabe Kid in New Japan.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, he beat him on night two and he held the global title.
[UNKNOWN]: They're gonna have a single's match for that global title.
[UNKNOWN]: He's probably gonna win it from him.
[UNKNOWN]: And from there, I mean, he's wrestling so well in the tournament if he gets over, he doesn't have these guys impeding him to where they're all gonna get pushed harder than him.
[UNKNOWN]: He's a baby face now.
[UNKNOWN]: I think this could really work to his benefit, and he could come in a bigger star and a little bit hotter than he would have if he was just random dog number four.
[UNKNOWN]: If he came in with the other three, he'd be their lost post.
[UNKNOWN]: Yep.
[UNKNOWN]: He'd be the pin-eater.
[UNKNOWN]: He would be in the six man tags and the eight man tags, and he would be the one losing.
[UNKNOWN]: He's not there, so it's conners.
[UNKNOWN]: Conners is the lost post right now, but if Maloney was there, would have been him.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if he was playing that kind of 4D chess and thinking about that.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if Tony only wanted the 3 for whatever reason.
[UNKNOWN]: Either way, I think it's going to work out better for him.
[UNKNOWN]: Long term.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, definitely.
[UNKNOWN]: He's going to be more valuable in a year or like you said two years.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, if he can establish himself as a single star, absolutely.
[UNKNOWN]: And who knows, you know, I'm sure WWE would love to have him.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, they've had him before.
[UNKNOWN]: And, you know, he's the NXT UK thing and everything.
[UNKNOWN]: And it's not like they're unfamiliar with him.
[UNKNOWN]: And he's a much better total package now than he was then.
[UNKNOWN]: So,
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: I think that guy set up, if he can deliver, he's set up for something special.
[UNKNOWN]: I think so far.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, this year in this G1, he's been delivering so far, so we'll see.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, the UUU Moore match was awesome.
[UNKNOWN]: The Gabe Kid match was awesome.
[UNKNOWN]: I think he's doing a great job.
[UNKNOWN]: five dollar tier g one reviews every every night of the tour.
[UNKNOWN]: All right, so that is redemption instant reaction live this Sunday immediately following the show.
[UNKNOWN]: It should be a little earlier.
[UNKNOWN]: They're starting an hour earlier.
[UNKNOWN]: So I will see you at 11th of midnight.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't have an announcement anything as far as a buy-in or whatever they call that thing.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, so, no, I think they did, they're doing a Rujo family thing.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, they're not on the air.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, let me see if that's for sure on the buy-in, I think it is.
[UNKNOWN]: So they will honor Jacques and Raymond and Johnny and and and see the offie who filled in for Jacques Roger.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: Raymond underrated wrestling family for one specific market.
[UNKNOWN]: I think.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Space and how long it took Johnny Rizzo to get into the Hall of Fame.
[UNKNOWN]: So Yeah, that's that's good.
[UNKNOWN]: That's fun.
[UNKNOWN]: So the last I saw that I have like 6800 tickets out or something for this thing So yeah, that's somewhere around there.
[UNKNOWN]: They have it set up for a little over 7,000.
[UNKNOWN]: It looks like they're going to get there pretty easily.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so I don't know if they're going to
[UNKNOWN]: It's spruce up the numbers a little bit, get up to eight or so, but they'll be pretty healthy about seven for sure.
[UNKNOWN]: Nice little gate.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Four hundred thousand or something.
[UNKNOWN]: The center bell, center with the RE and so to ER.
[UNKNOWN]: That's right.
[UNKNOWN]: Jacques Rujo will snub his nose at that house.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: I booked myself versus Hulk Hogan in June 12,000.
[UNKNOWN]: He did.
[UNKNOWN]: And he's won by the way.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he won.
[UNKNOWN]: In that era, in that political era, he won.
[UNKNOWN]: He convinced Hulk Hogan to do the J.O.B.
[UNKNOWN]: In 1998 or 97 or 97 or 97 or whatever, that's true.
[UNKNOWN]: That is one of the most amazing feats of the ever other.
[UNKNOWN]: Like Hulk Hogan was just like, I, whatever man, fine.
[UNKNOWN]: If that's what you want to do, that's it.
[UNKNOWN]: Because you could just see, J.B.
[UNKNOWN]: I believe I should win the match, you know?
[UNKNOWN]: Hulk is just like, brother, I don't know man.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm Hulk Hogan, brother, I think I should.
[UNKNOWN]: And like the War of a Trishon.
[UNKNOWN]: Like Hulk Hogan had to be like, all right, look, fine.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: You want to win?
[UNKNOWN]: You could fucking win.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't care.
[UNKNOWN]: That's fine.
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe he had the assorted goons who took out Dino Bravo strong armhook.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah, I'm thinking that.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I didn't think of the Biker Gang and the Montreal Biker Gangs, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Montreal is a rough city.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yes, and Dino Bravo with that illegal cigarette trade didn't work out for him, you know.
[UNKNOWN]: They filled him up a bullet.
[UNKNOWN]: Guys sitting there trying to enjoy a hockey game and they bust into his house and with the Tommy guns and take him out.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, do I tell you when I when I stayed in Calgary there was a biker convention a hell's angels convention at the same hotel that I was at in Calgary and I was a little worried and I kept telling the nurse all about I was like, I'm like, those much, I don't know about the Calgary, you know what I'm saying, yeah, much real ones and she's like, how do you know so much about the much real biker games?
[UNKNOWN]: I'm like, I don't think of their thing.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm like, oh my knowledge is like Dino Bravo related, but there's thing, I knew that.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, he was mixed up with the
[UNKNOWN]: He got mixed up with a lot of things.
[UNKNOWN]: He was an Italian French Canadian.
[UNKNOWN]: How does that work?
[UNKNOWN]: He knew how he was seeing things.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Didn't work out.
[UNKNOWN]: Good.
[UNKNOWN]: So, you know, he mixed up in the black market in the illegal cigarette trade.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, you got to avoid those tax stamps on the cigarette packs like Christopher Multisonti.
[UNKNOWN]: That's what Dino Bravo was wrapped up in.
[UNKNOWN]: And that didn't work out.
[UNKNOWN]: So these were Joe's.
[UNKNOWN]: Listen.
[UNKNOWN]: That's.
[UNKNOWN]: out, you know, when it would shock you if they're connected in some way, no, no, for sure.
[UNKNOWN]: They're wrestling promoters in Montreal.
[UNKNOWN]: Now they're connected somewhere.
[UNKNOWN]: Established for eight decades, I mean, you know, so, listen, if they had someone have a chat with whole code right, you know, that wouldn't have been holding a bad signal.
[UNKNOWN]: Smacking it into their hands and looking looked out and said, you know, that's fine.
[UNKNOWN]: Johnny, you want to win?
[UNKNOWN]: You can win.
[UNKNOWN]: That's good.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we're not taping this, right?
[UNKNOWN]: You know, and then you did the job.
[UNKNOWN]: He did the honors I would hope that's I don't know I don't know about the availability of it I'm sure it's not there, but my one of my all-time favorite processing themes all-American boys is so good The fabulous reshows the all-American boys.
[UNKNOWN]: I I adore that gimmick
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it was a very entertaining little American fun little American flag people think I don't like fun in wrestling and I like fun and wrestling when it's funny and when it's clever The problem is most wrestling is not funny or clever, but the fabulous reshows pretending to be good American boys To as a troll.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, right right right.
[UNKNOWN]: They're little American flags.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, and that's or or hear me out
[UNKNOWN]: Dan Howe's in Midgets.
[UNKNOWN]: That's, you know, that's fun, that's fun, it's wacky.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Clowning machine.
[UNKNOWN]: They're gonna do this cloning machine bit over and over.
[UNKNOWN]: You never know who's coming out of the cloning machine.
[UNKNOWN]: That's a thing now, you know.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, celebrities, a group, a thing now.
[UNKNOWN]: A door, yeah, they'll be, every time they're in a city, it'll be, oh my God, it's that guy from that.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah!
[UNKNOWN]: Harvey Kytelhausen, you know, it's a thing.
[UNKNOWN]: I took cloning for every guy.
[UNKNOWN]: Kytel is gonna get the, what do you mean, you never know?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I never know.
[UNKNOWN]: He might have a new movie coming out of something new at the Harvey Kytelhausen.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'd like to see that.
[UNKNOWN]: In fact, he's alive.
[UNKNOWN]: Don't be googling.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not telling you.
[UNKNOWN]: He's alive.
[UNKNOWN]: I know what you're doing.
[UNKNOWN]: No, you're googling.
[UNKNOWN]: You want your hope and he's dead.
[UNKNOWN]: No.
[UNKNOWN]: I think I know that he's alive.
[UNKNOWN]: All right.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, he's old.
[UNKNOWN]: He's old to shit, but I know he's alive.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, fucking you need old actors, too.
[UNKNOWN]: Who plays the old one?
[UNKNOWN]: I agree.
[UNKNOWN]: I just don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: WWE needs to seem to.
[UNKNOWN]: If they have one announced Chris Fowler was in the house.
[UNKNOWN]: They're not going to announce Harvey Kytel is in the house.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to not see in the house he's going to come out of the cloning box now it'll be some fucking streamer that you've never heard of They had that on certain it's meant event there was a guy named me on or something like that and the Yeah, and they had the camera man was next to him and I was like what a horrible life that would be?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I got to go to the show and I have to have the camera man film me at this fuck off.
[UNKNOWN]: It's just a gross way to live
[UNKNOWN]: Well, listen, when Mean Streets two comes out and Harvey Kytelhausen comes out of the cloning bars.
[UNKNOWN]: I'd meant an apology.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
[UNKNOWN]: Exactly.
[UNKNOWN]: All right.
[UNKNOWN]: Talk about Noah.
[UNKNOWN]: Forget you one.
[UNKNOWN]: Ideally, do you want audio?
[UNKNOWN]: Do you want a little?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, do you want to talk about Jake?
[UNKNOWN]: Come on, man.
[UNKNOWN]: That's premium content.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Now, you got to pay for that shit.
[UNKNOWN]: Let's talk about Noah's summer epic.
[UNKNOWN]: Get the hell out of here.
[UNKNOWN]: Rich is getting tired.
[UNKNOWN]: I am going to sleep here.
[UNKNOWN]: So I got to my Russell universe and I clicked play on Noah's summer epic 2026 and there's a there was a mistake They were playing a pandemic era show on this.
[UNKNOWN]: So I clicked it and I was watching that and nobody's making any fucking noise Claping every so often I was like that could be a modern Noah show.
[UNKNOWN]: It was because they'll be gave a fuck about this entire show What the hell is that?
[UNKNOWN]: No, I blew your baby.
[UNKNOWN]: It might be it.
[UNKNOWN]: It's all right.
[UNKNOWN]: It's fine.
[UNKNOWN]: It's fine
[UNKNOWN]: You know how many bits of mind you've blown over.
[UNKNOWN]: Exactly.
[UNKNOWN]: It's like revenge.
[UNKNOWN]: It's only for there.
[UNKNOWN]: It's the joke stepped on track.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Well.
[UNKNOWN]: Nobody can talk about anything on the show at all.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know what's going on with Noah right now.
[UNKNOWN]: It is a very weird promotion.
[UNKNOWN]: A lot of ways.
[UNKNOWN]: Shane Hayes to steal your cheats to the heavyweight champion.
[UNKNOWN]: Although maybe not for long because maybe Tetsuya and Naito is going to beat him for it.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, I don't know what's going on.
[UNKNOWN]: I couldn't believe the booking decisions on this show.
[UNKNOWN]: You could not only were they all backwards, but then they didn't make sense.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, once Tetsu and I told them to fit the feet, I said, of course he did, of course he did.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, but once that happens, how does OZawa not win?
[UNKNOWN]: like those have to go hand in hand.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
[UNKNOWN]: You want the rematch of of night to an Osawa and that's a big, you know, big, big time charisma, big time building, all that sort of stuff.
[UNKNOWN]: But you're trying to milk every, remember that scene in Moneyball where David justices in the batting cage.
[UNKNOWN]: And Billy Bean has had enough of his attitude, so he goes to have a chat with him and he tells David Justices like, look, I'm trying to milk every last bit of baseball at you, right?
[UNKNOWN]: They're trying to milk every last bit of drawing power out of Tetsuya, Nitro, and believe me, I don't eat much.
[UNKNOWN]: There's not much.
[UNKNOWN]: There's a drip here and there, but it is not much.
[UNKNOWN]: And they already had Ozzawa beat him in a singles match, right?
[UNKNOWN]: They already have done that.
[UNKNOWN]: So when Naito beat Kiyomiya for the number one contender ship, I'm just like, all right.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I don't like this, but Ozawa's gonna win the belt.
[UNKNOWN]: Shane Hayes has and drawn his champion.
[UNKNOWN]: Right, Ozawa, Naito, that's the match.
[UNKNOWN]: That's the best match they could put together.
[UNKNOWN]: Like, you know,
[UNKNOWN]: while they get every last bit that they can get out of NATO and then sheen haste retains.
[UNKNOWN]: And white raven squad stand up.
[UNKNOWN]: What the fuck are we doing?
[UNKNOWN]: And then, but I will say this, I didn't enjoy the, when NATO came down to, uh,
[UNKNOWN]: to go nose to nose with Shane Hayes right.
[UNKNOWN]: What the fuck is that sweet night to my Shane Hayes?
[UNKNOWN]: I know what you're doing.
[UNKNOWN]: You don't see them.
[UNKNOWN]: You are a save of all time.
[UNKNOWN]: It's like this is the wrestling is so fucking stupid that it's 10 to fucking midnight on a Friday and like a Thursday night.
[UNKNOWN]: And I'm breaking down a future Shane Haste versus washed up Tetsuya-Naito World title match.
[UNKNOWN]: It's Noah.
[UNKNOWN]: And Pro Wrestling Noah, what is this timeline?
[UNKNOWN]: How did we get here?
[UNKNOWN]: What have I become?
[UNKNOWN]: So anyway, I like that Haste brought up that five years ago.
[UNKNOWN]: He beat Naito in the G1.
[UNKNOWN]: And then Naito never gave him a title match.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: You know what though?
[UNKNOWN]: That's a nice little tie.
[UNKNOWN]: I appreciate that, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Now, nobody remembers Shane Hayes beating Naito and Nancy I until he said it.
[UNKNOWN]: And we all know that that was just one of those point equalizer finishes, like, didn't mean anything.
[UNKNOWN]: And we, you know, there's no way they were gonna give Shane Hayes the world title match because it's fucking Shane Hayes.
[UNKNOWN]: But the fact that they dug that out of the fucking archives
[UNKNOWN]: brought that back up and made that part of this story where he's just like a mother fucker.
[UNKNOWN]: I remember that you didn't give me a title shot and I'm still salty about it and you're not winning this title for me.
[UNKNOWN]: So I thought that was a cool little thing that they did in the post match, but I don't know how you don't do Osawa versus night though.
[UNKNOWN]: It doesn't make any sense to me.
[UNKNOWN]: I said thought you did.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm watching this and I'm looking and I'm like, I'm watching a G.H.C.
[UNKNOWN]: title face to face between Shane Haste and Tetsuya and what has happened.
[UNKNOWN]: How do we get here?
[UNKNOWN]: It is so strange.
[UNKNOWN]: It's so bizarre to be your desk company man.
[UNKNOWN]: And how about Kaito Kiyomiya losing to an inside cradle?
[UNKNOWN]: Daito doesn't even bother with the fucking destino anymore.
[UNKNOWN]: And, oh, they, well, he did a destino, but this one was the way the, the way that Kaito came in decided he was going to help him with the destino was, he was just going to flip.
[UNKNOWN]: Like, Naito did nothing.
[UNKNOWN]: Naito walked up to this man, reached his arms out and came in, left backwards into his arms and flipped over.
[UNKNOWN]: And all Naito had to do was stand, hold his arms up, and then fall down at a certain time.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, that, that is,
[UNKNOWN]: I love how it's a thing where it's like, how is this opponent going to help Nitro put me to see how this guy chose to do it?
[UNKNOWN]: But he gets beat with an inside cradle.
[UNKNOWN]: And then he's doing the thing where he's pounding the mat with his arms and that's like, dude, you just lost to the most washed up of washed up guys.
[UNKNOWN]: You lose every big match.
[UNKNOWN]: The team 2000X,
[UNKNOWN]: a month ago in court and mocked you and told you to break up your unit because it's sucks so bad.
[UNKNOWN]: And then you listened to them and you broke it up on the next court.
[UNKNOWN]: What is the deal with?
[UNKNOWN]: There has to be something behind the scenes with this guy, right?
[UNKNOWN]: There has to be.
[UNKNOWN]: Why is he treated like this?
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: I have never seen a wrestler that is a star.
[UNKNOWN]: A top guy in a promotion treated this poorly.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, can you think of one?
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, the big thing in the late 80s, you used the late 80s and early 90s used to be in K-Fab.
[UNKNOWN]: Sting is a fucking idiot because he always trusts the forehorses, man.
[UNKNOWN]: Right, right, right.
[UNKNOWN]: But they only turned on him like twice or something.
[UNKNOWN]: Like, it wasn't happen in once a month.
[UNKNOWN]: This guy has a new humiliation ritual every fucking month and pro wrestling Noah.
[UNKNOWN]: It doesn't stop.
[UNKNOWN]: This guy's just been getting humiliated over and over and over for like five years now.
[UNKNOWN]: I can't think of another top guy in a, he's a top three or four guy in the promotion, used to be the top guy in the promotion, and he just gets humiliated constantly with no sign of a redemption arc or anything.
[UNKNOWN]: Can you come up with one?
[UNKNOWN]: I can't think of one.
[UNKNOWN]: He's the humiliation for him as is a lie.
[UNKNOWN]: And they're like, on commentary, they're talking about how Kaito Kiemia, you know, battled Motumuto and came out of the other side, better for it.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm like, what are you guys talking about?
[UNKNOWN]: They're like, oh, he had his struggles with Moto, but he ended up, you know, now we see him where he's at now.
[UNKNOWN]: And I'm like, where's he at now?
[UNKNOWN]: He's like, you know, six from the bottom, losing the night, so what are you guys talking about?
[UNKNOWN]: The heels told him, you suck your unit sucks, break it up and he said, okay.
[UNKNOWN]: That's where he's at now.
[UNKNOWN]: It's rough.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, where he's at now.
[UNKNOWN]: He doesn't have a unit.
[UNKNOWN]: He never wins.
[UNKNOWN]: What do they do?
[UNKNOWN]: Like, I know they're just doing their job, but that's such a hard sell to say, like, look at where he is now.
[UNKNOWN]: It's it's it's perplexing.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's it's and that's up and now this car.
[UNKNOWN]: There's a lot of stuff like like a merifujin can know where the summer main event
[UNKNOWN]: And this match is happening and nobody in the crowd gives a fuck about I think going out with these guys and I'm just thinking man this Mirror Fuji can no should be like a generational rivalry in Noah and in some ways it is And it's just this match that's just happening.
[UNKNOWN]: It's 12 minutes at a Mirror Fuji's beat So I'm just fucking beats him with his move and I'm like what what is going on in this company?
[UNKNOWN]: It's so great every finish caught me off guard.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah Of the important matches, you know
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, because I'm thinking, okay, well, the mere Fuji is, you know, carrying the arc for a while, but I kind of was going to beat him here.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: No.
[UNKNOWN]: So now, what do you do with Kano, like he just loses this?
[UNKNOWN]: And he was downcycled to some degree before this.
[UNKNOWN]: And I don't know, what a weird fucking show this was.
[UNKNOWN]: And it wasn't good.
[UNKNOWN]: And it didn't have a lot of heat.
[UNKNOWN]: They drew a little over 2,000 fans.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't even know what to make of that number.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, I should have noted, the worst thing it was after mere food, you beats Cano.
[UNKNOWN]: Cano comes out, and I'm thinking, oh, man, this crowd's been really quiet, but this is going to, and they didn't give off fuck.
[UNKNOWN]: They didn't give a shit that kind of stuff.
[UNKNOWN]: It was challenging mere food, and I'm just like, all right, well, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: And I'm also thinking, I get it, because most of these people probably won't even fucking burn the last time can't in mere food, you know what I mean?
[UNKNOWN]: That's a, they got it that old, old, old, old.
[UNKNOWN]: I really don't want to do it.
[UNKNOWN]: And yeah, it's a long time ago.
[UNKNOWN]: It's 20 years ago.
[UNKNOWN]: They did wrestle in, in, uh,
[UNKNOWN]: I'm Marifuji's anniversary show about 10 years ago, right?
[UNKNOWN]: That's still a long time, I guess.
[UNKNOWN]: That was Hadeo Atami versus Marifuji.
[UNKNOWN]: Kenta was there and didn't even bother wrestling.
[UNKNOWN]: Like I thought maybe he had some indie booking in Saskatoon or something, and that's why he wasn't on the show, but like he was there.
[UNKNOWN]: Has he hurt?
[UNKNOWN]: No.
[UNKNOWN]: Kenta?
[UNKNOWN]: Why didn't he wrestle on the show?
[UNKNOWN]: But he's there, like, he fucking, um, son, I figured he was working for like the fire.
[UNKNOWN]: So I was like, oh, why, why, why is it kept in out there?
[UNKNOWN]: He, he hasn't worked since, uh, mid June.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, maybe he's injured.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know, but he, he challenged Mayor Fuji.
[UNKNOWN]: So, there you go.
[UNKNOWN]: Um, anything else?
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I, I thought,
[UNKNOWN]: watching the pre-show, eight-man tag with Team Noah.
[UNKNOWN]: It's so depressing watching like Muhammad Yone, like leaning over for a tag against four young boys on a pre-show match.
[UNKNOWN]: Can we just like, these guys aren't gonna quit on their own?
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, the little Harley, please quit.
[UNKNOWN]: Can we swear the other, can we all the other of these guys are right there?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'm saying it's rough.
[UNKNOWN]: It's like, I don't know, I guess,
[UNKNOWN]: that not really the right path either.
[UNKNOWN]: How about we just book them a little better?
[UNKNOWN]: Like, what's the problem with it?
[UNKNOWN]: Like, it's just so, like, it comes off disrespectful and weird and there's just like these outcasts, their team Noah and Noah, but they're the outcasts.
[UNKNOWN]: It's so strange.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know, at least they want, I guess.
[UNKNOWN]: But, you ain't like the latter match, huh?
[UNKNOWN]: Nah, I mean, again, it's like about random booking, you and I are like, well, the only kind of has to win this if it's going to the end one has to be Daikyo to Shima.
[UNKNOWN]: Daikyo to Shima, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Ah, no.
[UNKNOWN]: Alpha Wolf, no.
[UNKNOWN]: Alpha Wolf.
[UNKNOWN]: Nobody won that I thought was going to win.
[UNKNOWN]: No.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's like, the whole angle was like to set up for Daikyo to Shima to win and then an Alpha Wolf wins.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I mean, you know, kid, kid like those two could have taken it, could have taken it at home, could have been worse, I guess.
[UNKNOWN]: Ata overcame the mist spit and defeated Bushi and that's the other thing.
[UNKNOWN]: When Naita won, I figured Bushi would win too and then I figured Ozzawa would win.
[UNKNOWN]: Like they did nothing I thought they would do.
[UNKNOWN]: I guess I thought Soya and E, E, no.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we knew that they were going to win.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: And that match sucked.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, powerful.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that team.
[UNKNOWN]: I hate that team.
[UNKNOWN]: And I like when I was so young a lot.
[UNKNOWN]: And I hate that team.
[UNKNOWN]: Two goofy.
[UNKNOWN]: Two pop, two like.
[UNKNOWN]: Pop and late.
[UNKNOWN]: It was the team 2000, X hour.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Not one.
[UNKNOWN]: The run-ins and everything.
[UNKNOWN]: This show wasn't good.
[UNKNOWN]: No, no.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, team tell us next.
[UNKNOWN]: It's like, in this match, they like,
[UNKNOWN]: It happened in the main event too.
[UNKNOWN]: They would come down to the ring all of them and then they would go away and then they would just come back and I'm like, why do you go away?
[UNKNOWN]: Like, did it in the main event too?
[UNKNOWN]: They were like, oh, Team 2000, Axe was back to the ring side.
[UNKNOWN]: Why did they walk away with that?
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, I will say the, okay, okay, I'll explain that.
[UNKNOWN]: Shane Haste in the press conference told those Alwa, you don't have the guts to wrestle me without your guys at ring side.
[UNKNOWN]: So Alwa sent them away in the beginning in the match.
[UNKNOWN]: But you knew they were gonna come back.
[UNKNOWN]: Right, and they came back like a seven minutes later.
[UNKNOWN]: right and then white raven squad put them inside headlocks and march them out of the building and and and and then haste one because Ozzawa didn't have as guys to help them so they look it was a very basic pro wrestling story and they told it and i'm not going to get on them for that but it just doesn't make sense to keep the belt on haste and do shame haste for the
[UNKNOWN]: I'm confused, and the show, it'd be one thing, but the show wasn't good.
[UNKNOWN]: There wasn't a match on this show that I'm wrecked on a recommend to anybody.
[UNKNOWN]: No, the best match is probably Alejandro Dragonbane, obviously loving piece.
[UNKNOWN]: But it was like an 11 minute tag match that's pretty inconsequential.
[UNKNOWN]: They just went out there and wrestles good.
[UNKNOWN]: They just didn't want to shift for 10 minutes, and it was fine.
[UNKNOWN]: And then I liked it in a more in-case fugitive because it was four minutes, and they just screamed at each other and dropped each other in their heads a couple times.
[UNKNOWN]: So I like that and then everything else is so pretty bad.
[UNKNOWN]: And I didn't like anything else.
[UNKNOWN]: So man, what would my haters think of 2026 Joe lands a big Hadecki Suzuki and Caspo Gita?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, unbelievable.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, listen, you know, things change, man.
[UNKNOWN]: Can't be stuck in the mud.
[UNKNOWN]: No.
[UNKNOWN]: Gotta be flexible.
[UNKNOWN]: Ah, so before we depart, Noah has a brand new title.
[UNKNOWN]: And Joe, it might sound a little familiar to you.
[UNKNOWN]: The new GDC 200 title.
[UNKNOWN]: Why have a time limit of 200 seconds?
[UNKNOWN]: Oh.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, countouts will be off to five.
[UNKNOWN]: So no, 19?
[UNKNOWN]: None of those.
[UNKNOWN]: No, you're not going to get it.
[UNKNOWN]: He's not being.
[UNKNOWN]: Shutting.
[UNKNOWN]: 14.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, none of that 18.
[UNKNOWN]: 19.
[UNKNOWN]: No, none of those.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, five.
[UNKNOWN]: You get to five.
[UNKNOWN]: And if any told.
[UNKNOWN]: They count to 19, both guys are still up on the stage, but they still managed to slip in there before the 20s.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, every time.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
[UNKNOWN]: Not in the GHD 200 title on if any GHD 200 title defense ends in a draw the title will be retained by the champion, so if he moves the champion just a stall for time and get to those 200 tackles.
[UNKNOWN]: Yep.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: All right.
[UNKNOWN]: So it's about three minutes, so.
[UNKNOWN]: Wow.
[UNKNOWN]: It's the speed title basically.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
[UNKNOWN]: Well.
[UNKNOWN]: There's no fresh ideas, there's just a recycled ideas.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's three minutes and 33 seconds.
[UNKNOWN]: Something like that.
[UNKNOWN]: Yep, yep.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: No, a little less three minutes and I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
[UNKNOWN]: 200 seconds in.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I'm sure that'll be wacky and zaning.
[UNKNOWN]: Just what no one needed.
[UNKNOWN]: Wacky and zaning is stupid.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: I would think there'd be a lot of draws, right?
[UNKNOWN]: It's going to be a ton of draws.
[UNKNOWN]: I would say three minutes is not all.
[UNKNOWN]: It's going to break a lot of rich crates rules, because how often the match is ended under three and a half minutes?
[UNKNOWN]: almost never.
[UNKNOWN]: So they're going to have to do a bunch of shit that you would never normally see.
[UNKNOWN]: So it's like, it's like the Survivor Series where guys are getting pinned with scoops lamps.
[UNKNOWN]: That's kind of the same thing.
[UNKNOWN]: And you hate it.
[UNKNOWN]: And you hate that.
[UNKNOWN]: So
[UNKNOWN]: Why just because it happens to be the 200 second match?
[UNKNOWN]: Why is Hayata beating, you know, I don't know, June, Massayoka in two minutes and 15 seconds.
[UNKNOWN]: He would never beat him in two minutes and 15 seconds, otherwise.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, they're going to tell the story that these guys are working faster because of the 200s.
[UNKNOWN]: And I would say just do that every time then.
[UNKNOWN]: Why would you not try to win a match?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, why is it possible all the time?
[UNKNOWN]: I got right.
[UNKNOWN]: Why are you trying to take 28 minutes to beat a guy then?
[UNKNOWN]: If you're showing that you can beat him in two and a half.
[UNKNOWN]: See that's where it falls apart a little yeah come on Noah logic apps here We forgot the best part of the show.
[UNKNOWN]: Yo Hayes back Yo Hayes at his back and I could see you going.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh good.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, a little pimp pimp pimp pimp But fist nevermind Fuck it slate.
[UNKNOWN]: Nevermind.
[UNKNOWN]: All right.
[UNKNOWN]: It's gone.
[UNKNOWN]: It's over and we're done with the show.
[UNKNOWN]: We will see you guys Sunday
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