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[SPEAKER_03]: That's on your grave.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure she's ready.
[SPEAKER_02]: Shake them ropes.
[SPEAKER_02]: I am Jeff Hawkins.
[SPEAKER_02]: He is Rob McKerron and Rob announced today the launch on serious XM of WWE radio.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Should we be waiting by our phones for our show slot, given that busted open as on there?
[SPEAKER_03]: not going to be waiting with baited breath here, but it's a very interesting launching WWE radio.
[SPEAKER_03]: The area of the podcast, WWE radio, it seems to be a place where they can play a lot of their podcasts.
[SPEAKER_03]: Get paid for a channel while still having exposure.
[SPEAKER_03]: Honestly, surprised this hasn't happened sooner.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think this is almost like 15 years too late to be honest with you.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what it feels like to me.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think it probably would be more successful if it had happened sooner.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just like, okay, cool, we'll put this on this channel.
[SPEAKER_02]: And if they're getting paid great, but, you know, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, like, my parents had serious radio in their radios, do you?
[SPEAKER_03]: I have serious radio.
[SPEAKER_03]: We have it in the car and then you know you get the app with it so I can use the app and have it in the other car and we usually listen to that kind of in short spurts.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, kind of in short spurts.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if I'll be listening and we never listen to it inside the home.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, we are an Apple Music or Spotify when we're trying to actually listen to things.
[SPEAKER_03]: Serious happens strictly in the car and we have a lot of short drives and not a lot of long drives.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I also don't envision myself turning on WUE radio while driving in the car with your wife.
[SPEAKER_03]: Probably not going to happen.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're probably sticking to the highway to be honest.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's a WWE great click.
[SPEAKER_02]: Wow, isn't WWE great click.
[SPEAKER_02]: Wow, isn't WWE great.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, so be it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, good for them for having a channel like it makes sense.
[SPEAKER_03]: It makes sense for a location to have busted it.
[SPEAKER_03]: What channel was busted open on because it wasn't was on the Chris Russo channel?
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, what channel was it on?
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, they had like a combat sports channel or something.
[SPEAKER_03]: OK, well, clearly it's going to be moved over to here.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was actually trying to look and see what the six, I believe.
[SPEAKER_03]: OK, so it's deep in there.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like with the hockey, or not the hockey, but with the soccer F.C.
[SPEAKER_03]: kind of channel, what soccer F.C.
[SPEAKER_03]: serious XM.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is a segment I like to call Googling.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so serious XM's FC the soccer channel was 157.
[SPEAKER_03]: What was channel 156 serious channel 156 so this taking the place of
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it's taking the place of pro wrestling nation.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: So already was a pro wrestling channel.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now it's just going to be quickly branded WW.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: So WW is probably they're paying a licensing or they're getting a licensing fee.
[SPEAKER_03]: I would imagine getting a licensing fee paying under the TKO banner doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
[SPEAKER_03]: So they're going to get us some money.
[SPEAKER_03]: to brand WWE hopefully get some people to actually subscribe to Sirius for those people who just love all things WWE and want every single thing they can get their hands on.
[SPEAKER_03]: They are going to launch this Sirius XM WWE channel starting July 27, so it's starting on Monday and they are going to have what was interesting to me.
[SPEAKER_03]: is they are going to have play by play of the WWE premium live events.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, really.
[SPEAKER_02]: I did not see that part.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: So they are going to have.
[SPEAKER_03]: In addition to live event coverage, WWE radio will be home to the popular daily programming, like busted open a couple of new shows.
[SPEAKER_03]: uh... with mark Henry nickname uh... no this is busted open uh... but a couple of new shows repeat a rosinburg uh... they're going to have the not same pot uh... podcast on their italias hosting a show called the heart beat and you're going to have some other ones uh... with uh... some folks there's actually uh... off the ropes is going to be on there with uh... people like mark Henry tommy dreamer rage desert you know who rage
[SPEAKER_03]: and say he's Jeff, you've been hosting this show for a decade, I don't have you audio.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just know, I just always forgot his working name at WW.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my god.
[SPEAKER_03]: Do not hinder genders, sir.
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you, ginder Mahal.
[SPEAKER_03]: I just couldn't all be on a serious XM W-W-E radio.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so there's going to be some programming here, but they're going to fill some of this programming with live event coverage and live event.
[SPEAKER_03]: play by play.
[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, that's going to be interesting for them to be doing actual play by play of some of these WWE events because I would think that would probably not be something that maybe an ESPN now who was going to listen to WWE channels or WWE PLAs on the radio when you can have the video.
[SPEAKER_03]: But what do you think ESPN is going to be thinking about this now that these events
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, not much.
[SPEAKER_02]: I would love it if it was like a, you remember Simon casting when you could get like an alternative audio stream of some kind.
[SPEAKER_02]: I would love it if they would have done that, but uh, it's not going to take away from buy so I don't think they're going to be too worried about it.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's also going to be a they say select audio simultaneous of WWE's weekly flagship television programming too.
[SPEAKER_03]: So you may even be able to listen to a raw or smack down maybe a big momentous occasion on on WWE.
[SPEAKER_03]: So if you're out driving and you know, you can't watch the show, you would be able to kind of listen and listen live and see what's going on.
[SPEAKER_03]: So WWE radio.
[SPEAKER_03]: is going to be beginning on Monday, the last Monday of July.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's also the last Monday or night raw before SummerSlam.
[SPEAKER_03]: SummerSlam is coming up very quick here, Jeff Hawkins.
[SPEAKER_03]: Are you more intrigued by SummerSlam?
[SPEAKER_03]: After this week's WWE TV, are you less intrigued by SummerSlam?
[SPEAKER_03]: Where are your thoughts?
[SPEAKER_03]: Where's your head at?
[SPEAKER_03]: Headed into a WWE SummerSlam.
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought Saturday night's main event was a little bit of fun, especially that I even thought the Dan House and thing was quite enjoyable to be honest with you.
[SPEAKER_02]: There were some funny towns and then we got, and then we got to this week and both Monday night Raw at AEW Dynamite phoned it in.
[SPEAKER_02]: and it was a go home for AEW.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, it was go home.
[SPEAKER_03]: Also, I mean, you are what now six weeks away from all in.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you're pretty close to all in where all these shows be me should be kind of important.
[SPEAKER_03]: But you're right.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was a little, it was a little, uh, and by the numbers as in this paper view, which we will get to redemption here in a second.
[SPEAKER_02]: But raw, raw was just weird to me because it's like, no.
[SPEAKER_02]: women's matches no furthering of any women's angles really other than the live morgan dan house and thing on actual television and this this weird six man that they're building up to which just nobody knows who to root for so everybody's kind of confused as to you know hey hey nice kind of a jerk but not we pop for him
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think it's so much like no one knows who to root for like we're waiting to be told okay who's the guy we should be like no one wants to root for anyone there's a difference right here OTC all the time though and why not because listen he left
[SPEAKER_03]: He left WrestleMania as the baby face and then there was the weird angle with Jacob Fatu where people weren't ready to really cheer with Jacob Fatu and they actually healed him out.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then he brings Jacob Fatu in the bloodline and Roman Reigns has been subtle.
[SPEAKER_03]: He always has been, you know, OTC.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's been boss guy.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not an even partnership with everybody.
[SPEAKER_03]: And honestly,
[SPEAKER_03]: people are starting to like solo so coa a little bit so they bring him in and now they're trying to you know bring these guys that they think the crowd's gonna like the fully cement the bloodline is the heels but the blood they're not ready to fully cement the bloodline as heels to the point we're even Seth Rollins is gonna be healed out here after summer slam the one winning in all this is going to be Roman Reigns as far as getting the support getting the crowd attention and are we just gonna keep trying to force feed Roman Reigns as a heel throughout this
[SPEAKER_03]: Could we potentially maybe even see Seth Rollins win the title at SummerSlam and just go full heel?
[SPEAKER_03]: Like maybe they're finally resonating and like hey Seth Rollins is the babyface.
[SPEAKER_03]: See how punk is on the other show now there isn't there isn't one guy who we can put against Roman Reigns after this.
[SPEAKER_03]: Except for maybe Oberfemi, but I'm not even there with Oberfemi yet.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think Ober has to get away from Brock Lesnar for a month or two, and if they want to wait till WrestleMania against Roman Reigns, that's probably for the best for everyone involved, because if you try to put him going into a like a survivor series, Oberfemi and Roman Reigns, the crowd's going to heal on Oberto.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and after this week, especially with the Unreal Clips coming out, hey, let's turn Seth Heal, make him head of the vision again.
[SPEAKER_02]: Shake hands with brawn, red con the entire thing, and do it for next year.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just, I, yeah, they, the Seth Braalins Roman Reigns thing should have so much heat to it given the history, and all it is is those do arguing about who Hunter liked best.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's really not good.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's weird arguments going forth there, Seth Rollins coming back from the injury.
[SPEAKER_03]: I know he wrestled in the king of the ring tournament.
[SPEAKER_03]: Didn't do well there.
[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like you probably wanted him back a little bit and maybe slow-brewed the return to Seth Rollins and Roman Reigns.
[SPEAKER_03]: The weirdness was seeing a punk where it's like he doesn't really have unfinished business with Roman Reigns.
[SPEAKER_03]: He does have unfinished business.
[SPEAKER_03]: He hasn't finished what he was doing with Roman.
[SPEAKER_03]: He hasn't finished what he was doing with Seth.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, when Seth got hurt, see him punk and Seth were in this program together, and there was so much more meat on that bone to the point where, yeah, you are probably going to get see him punk Seth Rollins back again in the future, hopefully more than just like the Saudi Arabia SmackDown versus RAW, you know, champions match.
[SPEAKER_03]: But there was so much more to go with seeing punk on that side, where it just seems kind of rush that you're doing Seth and Roman, that seems kind of rush that you're doing punk and roads.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's kind of rush that punk is not even going to be on raw.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is the summer of weirdness.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not even the summer of regrouping after WrestleMania because they kind of regrouped in that first month and you were just waiting for everyone to come back.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just been a weird kind of summer going on here to the point where I'm just waiting until after SummerSlam to see what the stories are going to be.
[SPEAKER_03]: SummerSlam is totally like a backlash almost to me.
[SPEAKER_03]: It feels like it's the paper view after a WrestleMania, even though it has these giant matches on it, but look at Oba and Brock Lesnar, it's a rematch from WrestleMania.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just a weird time right now in WWE Land.
[SPEAKER_02]: but one of the most intriguing things to me about this summer slam card is the fact that a majority of WWE fans have never even seen Nick Aldus out of a suit or in a ring.
[SPEAKER_02]: So thinking that that's an interesting match is for a very select few, I'll be interested to see what the crowd thinks of Nick Aldus.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, to me, he's almost a perfect WWE wrestler who is kind of shoehorned into a managerial job because, you know, he wasn't a young guy on the come, so he can't stick him in NXT.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's been three years since Nick all this has wrestled.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: Since he was last in impact and so he was he was last in TNA.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's been three years since he last wrestled, which is not an eternity, but yeah, you're right.
[SPEAKER_03]: This crowd is this audience is totally different than the audience that was potentially watching impact at almost its lowest.
[SPEAKER_03]: uh... in and it's actually he was in the end w a after t and a he wasn't even in impact all those at for last few years he was in the end w a wasn't no he was he was an impact then he went to the end w a then is last run before coming back to w a was in impact he wrestled against all odds in a four way where you want it
[SPEAKER_03]: uh... his last matches at impact he lost a eric young he lost Alex shelly uh... two names that are now in w we so yeah he's he's he's wrestled and different and shelly no longer and he's a yesterday as if yesterday that is correct uh... but yes uh... so two names that uh...
[SPEAKER_03]: We're most recently, yes, we want to, if you want to say that, Eric Young having gone from TNA back to WWE to work backstage, but yeah, Nick, to me, I'm not even worried about fans, like I'm not expecting fans to have ratched the Nick Aldous run in impact wrestling, it's almost better if they haven't.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is a story, a guy, Nick Aldis, who's been on WWE TV for two years straight.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's the GM.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's obviously a big guy.
[SPEAKER_03]: You can look at the TV and see that he's a big guy.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, oh, this is interesting.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's going to be this GM who's been on Gunther's back here for the last few months.
[SPEAKER_03]: Versus Gunther, I'm going to root for him because Gunther is one of the true, you know, full blooded heels in WWE right now, where they're not booing him because of any
[SPEAKER_03]: him, and they beat all the favorites.
[SPEAKER_03]: And they're going to cheer up this guy.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's going to be an interesting crowd.
[SPEAKER_03]: I wonder where they put it on the show.
[SPEAKER_03]: I hope it's not, you know, second on the show.
[SPEAKER_03]: Hope it's a little bit later, because I think the crowd will get behind Nick Aldis.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, the crowd would have gotten behind Nick Aldis even more if
[SPEAKER_03]: 30,000 people who will be there were packed into an arena, and it was 23,000 people versus the open air.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think summer slam open air with being half full building is going to hurt people.
[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, Nick Aldous versus Gunther is one of these matches that's probably one of the most intriguing on summer slam, and we'll preview summer slam in full next week.
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you put it on day one or day two?
[SPEAKER_03]: I put Nick Aldous versus Gunther on day one.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I have not thought about this for more than what two seconds since you just asked me.
[SPEAKER_03]: But right now I would say gut, gut reaction initial reaction was you put it on day one.
[SPEAKER_03]: You put it on the Saturday, you have a super hot crowd for it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think you put it on ESPN.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is not one of those programs that's for the casuals for the ESPNers.
[SPEAKER_03]: put this on the actual show.
[SPEAKER_03]: Nick Aldis versus Gunther.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then yeah, we'll see if Nick Aldis stays as a pro wrestler.
[SPEAKER_03]: If he gets to his job as the GM back, you know, we'll see what he does here, but I would imagine this is the beginning of Nick Aldis's full-time professional wrestling run here in WWE.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I think it's it's it's a one-in-done.
[SPEAKER_03]: I thank you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I do.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe maybe another special thing or something like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: And let's do.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, unless we're going to do something with Cody getting a stable or something of his friends.
[SPEAKER_02]: And you know, kind of doing a member berries on that for the 20 people who might know all about that stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't see you can hear you can heal Cody Rhodes here.
[SPEAKER_03]: And maybe maybe Nick Aldous gets the feel good when maybe he gets beat by Gunther.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then, yeah, maybe he joins a Cody Rhodes Let's table, but I don't see him going back to the GM after having an in, you know, a in ring match with one of the top stars on that show.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I certainly hope they don't put them on raw because I love that on Pierce.
[SPEAKER_02]: See, it's one of those things where I would think, okay, you beat Aldous on early in night two and then something happens with Cody punk where you need an authority figure and he's not around to answer that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, there's there's some options that you have here.
[SPEAKER_03]: I just, you know, it's going around the memes going around about how Nick all this is one of the youngest main eventors on this show.
[SPEAKER_03]: because he's younger than Cody Rhodes.
[SPEAKER_03]: He is younger than Seth wrong.
[SPEAKER_03]: He is younger than Roman Reigns.
[SPEAKER_03]: He is younger than Siampong.
[SPEAKER_03]: He is younger than L.A. Knight.
[SPEAKER_03]: He is younger than Royskieze allegedly.
[SPEAKER_02]: He is younger than Royskieze.
[SPEAKER_02]: Wow, I did not know that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, there's people that think Royskieze is in his 30s.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's also people that think he's in his 40s.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's no full, he knows the answer.
[SPEAKER_02]: WWE might know the answer, but he's a cube in such a picture.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, this could be a foster car monol over again.
[SPEAKER_03]: We don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: Gunther.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think Gunther is just barely younger than Nick Aldis.
[SPEAKER_03]: Dan housing is 100 years old.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I mean, he's obviously older than Nick Aldis as well.
[SPEAKER_03]: So there's a lot of older dudes, Brock Lesnar, Brock Lesnar is almost 50.
[SPEAKER_03]: So Nick Aldis is one of these hip young bucks come into the main roster here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you think they're running Dan has an into the ground?
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't do.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think they're giving him the amount of TV time that his reaction so far have deserved and that I thought he would be getting early on.
[SPEAKER_03]: I honestly think they kind of early on with him being on the the raw commercial segments with him, you know, running around for a backstage segment where
[SPEAKER_03]: They were actually slow rolling in housing for a bit here and now he's just getting as much TV time as some of the other stars minus the bloodline, the bloodline gets obviously much much more.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not like he's all over the shows.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's just on each show nowadays, but it's not like he's out there for 15 minutes at the time.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's getting a match here and there.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's perfectly
[SPEAKER_02]: I heard that and I said no, not that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think the problem is he's too high on the card on this whole live Morgan EOS guy thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think he should be.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't like my comedy mix with my main event quote unquote.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that the women's world title is quote unquote made of that.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I think sticking with Dom and JD McDonough is fine.
[SPEAKER_02]: But once you get into the live Morgan EOS guy feud, I think that's a little bit too high for him.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he should be shouldn't be involved in that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, there's multiple points I would say about Dominic Mysterio because they were raising Dominic Mysterio up over the last year, year and a half to the point where he could have been in these main event programs, he was getting the matches with the world champions and he's slow to a little bit, which is honestly fine because when you have a main event roster right now of
[SPEAKER_03]: Obafemi, Brock Lesnar, Roman Reigns, Seth Rollins, CM Punk Cody Rhodes, and you're still trying to figure out what to do with the JU so L.A. Night.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's a lot of room at the top right now that's filled.
[SPEAKER_03]: You don't have room for Dominica Mysterio, so let them do some of these fun things.
[SPEAKER_03]: Dan Housing Dominica Mysterio could easily be a match that I see going on the ESPN card, or
[SPEAKER_03]: just for the fact that it might be one of the more intriguing matches and might be one of the more intriguing personalities on the show, you know, advertised Dan House and Dominic Mysterio for the ESPN unlimited portion of the card and and really advertise it in hammer at home during the ESPN portion that it will be taking place on ESPN unlimited.
[SPEAKER_03]: Dan House and Dominic Mysterio certainly a match.
[SPEAKER_03]: It is for all the human monies.
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, I don't know where either goes from here because Dan House and also still has his SmackDown stuff with the Miz and Kit Wilson and potentially some other folks coming out of the, uh, of the cloning machine, uh, but I will say the cloning machine is a super fun gimmick and an easy way to bring people like Carl Anthony Towns into the arena like the many
[SPEAKER_03]: some celebrity or some new debut that you want to come in, but you don't really have an easy way to get them in.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is your easy way, the cloning machine.
[SPEAKER_03]: And you know what?
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm here for it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm happy that the cloning machine is now camin on WWE TV.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like Baron Corbin.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, wait.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, they didn't do that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, I didn't have a Baron Corbin.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, the guys.
[SPEAKER_03]: That made the most sense to put in there with Dan Housing, but no, they want to just do Baron Corbin like it was before.
[SPEAKER_03]: Where is this strong puff guy who was coming in and he's going to put some people down until he gets too far up the guard and then he's the one being put down.
[SPEAKER_02]: But now he's now he's legit.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's a little bit, I guess, but he could be super legit with Dan Housing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, they're still time.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're still time for Baron Corbin to get sucked into the Dan Housing Vortex and get mine melted.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're still time for that.
[SPEAKER_02]: But let me go back.
[SPEAKER_02]: Dan has it on ESPN would be fine.
[SPEAKER_02]: I actually didn't be really good because he was all over there during the NBA finals.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mis was all over the SP's.
[SPEAKER_02]: Put all those types of guys on the ESPN, pre-show, all the sports hard liners will bitch about anyways because they don't want WWE.
[SPEAKER_02]: They don't want that fake stuff when they could be watching Cornhole or whatever on a lazy Saturday in July.
[SPEAKER_02]: or an August.
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, I do like putting Dan has an on an ESPN portion of it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right now we don't have any of the matches announced for the first hours.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, when we preview the show next week on this show, we will most likely have the first hour matches, a fight full is reporting that one of the first hour matches is likely to be pen to versus Chad Gable, you know, give, give a really strong pro wrestling match with some familiar faces to the WWE audience that isn't so much the big names going early because again, ESPN you.
[SPEAKER_03]: you want people to buy the ESPN limited show.
[SPEAKER_03]: Don't give away Brock Lesnar hell on a sell on the first hour and Cody Rhodes see him punk in the first hour and Roman rings like you have to have your main events and you got to have some things that people want to buy ESPN and limited for.
[SPEAKER_03]: So Pentsa versus Chad Gable rumored to be one of those matches for the first hour.
[SPEAKER_03]: I could see Dan hasn't doing it too.
[SPEAKER_03]: There were a lot of rumours there where WWE higher ups were
[SPEAKER_03]: uh... regretting a little bit that the nicks were so heavily involved in cyber-do-nice main event that they made it two new york centric and not globally appealing not you and you know net nationally appealing but let's face it the next were the story of the summer day and house in one of your popular wrestlers was tied into this next story
[SPEAKER_03]: that that story can prolong into summer slam, which is on ESPN.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're going to get so much attention for it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Do you buy that there are ESPN executives, but mowning the fact that they went too heavy on the next.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think it was ESPN executives.
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought was WWE day to day.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, that's why I said WWE executives.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, you know, you know, you just ask me if ESPN executives were regretting it.
[SPEAKER_03]: So he has to get executives aren't because more next the better more.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, the main team sport.
[SPEAKER_02]: Whoever said that should be fired.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's good for your thing to get mainstream crossover and you were a show on peacock.
[SPEAKER_02]: You weren't even on television.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was fine.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was good.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was good for your product.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know some people don't watch real sports, but you should watch real sports and then take from that liberally.
[SPEAKER_02]: And also by the way, the women's ladder matches break up on ESPN.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what I think.
[SPEAKER_03]: I can see that one too, and you may have some returns, a little surprise in that one as well.
[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, we'll go through the full card next week on the show as it starts to build up.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, we've already got nine to ten matches announced for that show right now, which is pretty good.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, obviously, those are going to be split over two days, so really five per show.
[SPEAKER_03]: I would expect each night to have at least six matches on the main card.
[SPEAKER_03]: So we still got some room to go there before we get to AEW or redemption coming up.
[SPEAKER_03]: ESPN, speaking of, was caught in the middle of laying off some folks this week.
[SPEAKER_03]: They laid off Carl Ravich.
[SPEAKER_03]: uh... let me call it retired but they uh... most likely lindocone was gonna come to at her end to term anyway here uh... some big names but one of the interesting names laid off and probably not a surprise and curious your thoughts they laid off w e in combat sports reporter andres hail he is no longer with the company after uh... basically being a big strong critic of w e tv
[SPEAKER_03]: Since ESPN took hold of the rights to WWE PLEs, probably not a surprise anyway, but what do you make of it, especially with the recent history of Andreas Hale and WWE and ESPN?
[SPEAKER_02]: ESPN stopped its deal with UFC.
[SPEAKER_02]: WWE doesn't want critics working for things that
[SPEAKER_02]: I think this is fairly obvious that WWE may have somebody at TK or may have made a call.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's all I'm going to say.
[SPEAKER_02]: I, you know, David Lloyd, I thought shouldn't have, I mean, he's still doing, or he was doing sports centers nightly, at least the late ones.
[SPEAKER_02]: There were quite a few.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, there were quite a few.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, honestly, when you're laying off highly tenured folks, those people probably make more than some of the other names that you can bring in and do similar jobs.
[SPEAKER_03]: Especially with ESPN, they no longer had a full-time Major League Baseball contract, so Carl Ravich, who was calling games, they can just bring in names here and there, and you don't need to have a voice of baseball in ESPN right now, effectively that voice is Tim Kirchens still, and he's still there, they don't need to have a voice play by play, so not a surprise there, the coverage yet, ESPN does not need to be doing weekly critiques or reviews of WWE
[SPEAKER_03]: Not saying if they wanted to that's fine, but do they need to be doing that?
[SPEAKER_03]: Probably not.
[SPEAKER_02]: Puff pieces dealing with the wrestlers real athletic background.
[SPEAKER_02]: That should be the limits of what they're doing in terms of corporate crossover and stuff like that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: We got news lately that according to Tony Khan and the J
[SPEAKER_03]: has actually resigned with a W and extended her contract.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think this was a little bit of a surprise to some that thought that she may be WWE bound or NXT bound.
[SPEAKER_03]: What do you think of Amma J sticking around with a W although she is currently out with injury?
[SPEAKER_02]: She should have left.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what I think.
[SPEAKER_02]: If WWE would have taken.
[SPEAKER_02]: And now I don't know if they would have, she's been
[SPEAKER_02]: She's been with them for a while, so actually more shocking to me is that Tamello asked for her release and got it Early she says he's gonna do and that's Anna Jay's partner, so Anna Jay's kind of stuck
[SPEAKER_02]: like that that one run she had at startup where you're like okay cool she's really improved here and she's come back and then there was nothing after that there was nothing for her creatively they should have stuck her with Jack Perry when he made his gimmick change and that would have been something Hollywood Jack Perry but I don't know it it's a contract good for her for getting paid you're on a show where they were certain powers that be only want one women's match a week
[SPEAKER_02]: When are you going to get time?
[SPEAKER_02]: She's not working Indies.
[SPEAKER_02]: She's not improving.
[SPEAKER_02]: So you're kind of like, OK, I'm going to take this job and have it as long as I can if they put me on TV.
[SPEAKER_02]: Great, if they don't, I still have the contract.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's kind of what I think.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's very interesting that NHA is kind of had these start-stop events in her career since they're viewing NAW.
[SPEAKER_03]: And hopefully she can get a little bit of momentum.
[SPEAKER_03]: The AEW women's roster is going to go through with another turnover point.
[SPEAKER_03]: It always does.
[SPEAKER_03]: Not necessarily where people leave the company and new people come in.
[SPEAKER_03]: Just fresh faces on TV regularly because it has been the same faces over the course of the last six to nine months, Mercedes Manegos away comes back, but still relatively the same faces.
[SPEAKER_03]: We haven't gotten that cleansing, if you will, of the roster where it's a whole new
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, there's 20 women on the roster who have been sitting at home for months at a time that it don't even get used.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I'm a Jay's about to be one of them.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's talk about AEW Redemption, Jeff Hawkins, AEW Redemption is taking place in Montreal.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, okay, Montreal, Canadian crowds, hot crowds, you're probably gonna have some stories here that really create a monster atmosphere.
[SPEAKER_03]: My first question to you, sir, is what is the main event of this show?
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, it's going to be Omega Night,
[SPEAKER_02]: Death writers and blocks, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I ask you are either of those, or even Teclin Night and Gale, you could try to do, but nevertheless, if Tony Khan puts Tecla and Willow Night and Gale in the main event slot of this frickin' paper view,
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I could say the same thing, honestly, about him putting Kenny Omega in Kevin Knight in there.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I agree, Kevin O'Neigh, Kevin Knight and Kenny Omega probably the main event, but one of the weaker main events going into a show that I can imagine on AEW in quite some time.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is a world title.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is effectively the collision of PLEs, just waiting until all in.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I wouldn't even put the Death Riders tag.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, there's a story there with Will Osprey, John Moxley, maybe there's some type of postmatch angle that they do.
[SPEAKER_03]: Which would also be dumb because Will Osprey has his focus going into all in the young bucks.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, haven't been on the main event scene in a little while here.
[SPEAKER_03]: My point is kind of there's really no main event on the show.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a bunch of B-level paperview matches just filling out a card and a lot of them will be really good.
[SPEAKER_03]: Chris Jericho, Tomoso, Champa, might have as much claim as anything else to be the main event of this show to be honest.
[SPEAKER_03]: You got the Canadian and Chris Jericho, it's been a couple of months build to this match.
[SPEAKER_03]: No holds barred, it's got the gimmick going for it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I effectively, two months ago, I thought Cagin Cope were going to be the main event of the show, but now they're just going up against the Death Riders B team of Vincent and Buff Bagwell.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like this is a show filled with easily matches I wouldn't even think would be the main event of a collision.
[SPEAKER_02]: somewhat disagree but I agree at the same time it's kind of weird to me how I'm gonna put this this could've been that's could've had some heated heated rivalries and instead all they did were matches to set up matches and oh I'm announcing we're challenging these guys and then they got like beat up for like a week and then that's the match and you're just kind of like yeah there's no real
[SPEAKER_02]: It's no real hot feud going into this car.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, this was a paper view that was just created to create a paper view, and it feels like it's just a paper view to have a paper view.
[SPEAKER_03]: It absolutely is.
[SPEAKER_03]: It, I mean, this is a show filled with matches.
[SPEAKER_03]: It is, it would be a really, really good dynamite.
[SPEAKER_03]: The dynamite from two weeks ago, I think, is stronger than this show.
[SPEAKER_02]: This would be a good dynamite.
[SPEAKER_02]: You are correct, uh, there it is.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not a collation card.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a dynamite card.
[SPEAKER_03]: it is.
[SPEAKER_03]: It is just a show.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're going to go through the matches somewhat quickly here.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm seeing a note now, you know, Tony Conn is doing his pre paper view.
[SPEAKER_02]: Have they had a full-form matches in his media scrum?
[SPEAKER_03]: He added the one.
[SPEAKER_03]: He added the latter match for the number one contender to the AEW International Championship today.
[SPEAKER_03]: So we'll get through that.
[SPEAKER_03]: But he was asked, you know, you have so many tag teams on the roster Tony.
[SPEAKER_03]: Have you ever
[SPEAKER_03]: Continental championship tournaments or some type of tournament for the tag teams like a tag league if you will and he said yeah, we've thought about it.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're interested in doing it.
[SPEAKER_03]: We might do a tournament down the line like Jeff Hawkins within a year.
[SPEAKER_03]: Are we going to have the AEW Continental tag team champions belts like we're literally going to have two different tag team titles.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, we're gonna have the continental tag champs.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're gonna have the AEW Cup.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're gonna have the AEW G1, so we're just gonna have nothing but tournaments.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then we're gonna need the women's tag, continental cup.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, continental championships, global tag league.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're gonna have the Owen Hart Foundation tournaments and they can fit one in there.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, Stings retired, probably should name something after him.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, why not?
[SPEAKER_03]: So the match that you thought was gonna be the main event, very well-could, but better not be.
[SPEAKER_03]: And nothing against Teclin will, a night and yellow, I would say the same thing about Mark Davis on Drodde.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I would say the same, about Kyle Fletcher bandita, which honestly has a shot to be, one of the main event matches on that show.
[SPEAKER_03]: I would say the same thing about Caging Coat.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry, Caging Coat versus Claudio and Pack is not a main event of a paper view, but if you just want the hometown pop and a feel good ending,
[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe that could go on last.
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, Tecla Willow Nightingale.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is for the AEW Women's World Title.
[SPEAKER_03]: We have two women's World Title matches, singles matches, on the show.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is the first of them.
[SPEAKER_03]: Tecla Willow Nightingale.
[SPEAKER_03]: Who you got?
[SPEAKER_02]: obvious that Willow probably will win this, but I think there's like about a 20% chance that this is a no contest of some kind or something happens, so that tech luck can be in a three way with Mercedes in at all in.
[SPEAKER_02]: It probably shouldn't happen, but tech let deserves it after all the work she's been doing this year.
[SPEAKER_02]: She deserves it beyond your main stage pay per view,
[SPEAKER_03]: against all odds is AEW National Champion.
[SPEAKER_03]: If you were unaware, defending against Andrade L. Edelow, not that we haven't already seen cracks in the Don Carlos family because gosh, we have every single week even when they're stronger than ever.
[SPEAKER_03]: But here is a night where the cracks could start to fall as far as titles.
[SPEAKER_03]: I would imagine that Andrade L. Edelow was gonna walk away as the National Champion on this show.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, for almost after Provo's about the world title, here's your consolation prize.
[SPEAKER_03]: Kenny Omega versus Kevin Knight.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I am just going in the order that Wikipedia has entered that slide.
[SPEAKER_03]: I see that.
[SPEAKER_03]: One by skipping around.
[SPEAKER_03]: Wikipedia thinks this is the third match on the show.
[SPEAKER_03]: Kenny Omega, Kevin Knight, your main event for the AEW World Championship, does that GF get involved?
[SPEAKER_03]: Does Will Osprey get involved?
[SPEAKER_03]: Are there big shenanigans?
[SPEAKER_03]: leading to a finish or possibly after, uh, because I could very well see this paper view ending with something more than just a match, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: Some type of post match, whether it's just as basic as a brawl with Will Osprey, the deathwriters, all these guys, or maybe we just see a staredown, there's going to be something going on after this show.
[SPEAKER_03]: But what do you think about Kenny Omega defending the title against Kevin Knight?
[SPEAKER_02]: Nope, I think it's straight ahead.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think all the chicanary comes after deathwriters and young books, which I think it's elevated
[SPEAKER_03]: She canary.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I can see she canary.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll explain when we get to that one.
[SPEAKER_03]: The pain maker Chris Jericho, I guess the psycho killer Tumaso Champa is is Jericho going to come out with the lame ass face paint that he thinks is cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, the the sad clown face paint or whatever that is.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, the
[SPEAKER_02]: All of his gimmicks have to get a win.
[SPEAKER_02]: So he's gonna get this win back on this one.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is Chris Jericho's win to have.
[SPEAKER_02]: It'll be way too bloody way too early too, but that's what those two guys want to do.
[SPEAKER_02]: So okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is the fourth of as of right now going through this 10 matches with nothing announced for a pre show although I have to suspect one or two of these will end up on a kickoff show.
[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, there's a ton of matches that will go long.
[SPEAKER_03]: Although not as many as you would suspect.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, there's there's going to be some quick ones.
[SPEAKER_03]: Mark Davis on dry day.
[SPEAKER_03]: I could see go in seven eight minutes and I know a W doesn't usually like to do that.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I can see some of these being pretty short.
[SPEAKER_03]: a match number five on the list down Kyle Fletcher defending the international championship against bandido.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think this is like every other bandido paper view match is going to be really good in bandido loses.
[SPEAKER_02]: Although if you won, then you could have Kyle Fletcher go after Kevin Knight's TNT title, which would be very interesting to me, but I do think that Kyle Fletcher retains.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think the Kyle Fletcher routines to I could very well see that happening where maybe he goes off the TNT championship as well, especially if Kevin night loses, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean Kevin night Kyle Fletcher two losers on this paper view battling out for the love of Don Callis because Kyle Fletcher constantly has the battle for the love of Don Callis.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Kevin night wants two belts.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's his only goal.
[SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't care if it's the world title.
[SPEAKER_02]: He just wants two belts.
[SPEAKER_03]: Just wants two belts.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, guess what?
[SPEAKER_03]: There's going to be a tag team new belt created.
[SPEAKER_03]: Go after that.
[SPEAKER_03]: at some point, so you can tag team titles, Caging Cope, Adam Copeland, Christian Cage, going up against Claudio Castagnoli and Pack for the AEW World Tag Team titles.
[SPEAKER_03]: This could be a super good match too.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, obviously the crowd is probably going to be hyped for, for Cage and for Adam Copeland.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't see any drama really on this one.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I see Caging Cope, raining those tag team titles until they lose the big one to either
[SPEAKER_03]: What young bucks, probably?
[SPEAKER_03]: I would think, or that multi-tax mosa gonna have it all in, which yeah, they're gonna have something, but I I mean, I'm just there's only two teams in my mind Yes, that could beat them for the titles and it's the young bucks and it's FTR
[SPEAKER_03]: or the new day if they bring them in or the new day if they come in but i would say i i think we're getting the new day on the show by the way i guess i might as well just say this during this tag team title match i don't think it may happen during this exact match but i think we're getting the new day on this paper view and i think the Montreal crowd will go crazy okay i i don't think they're eligible until the first week of august so i think they may not be on this one
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to say they show up and Wostile first segment on the card play a part in the main event and they're just coming in and saying we're we're fan of all these guys we're not coming in here to destroy it and then they just destroy everything yeah that's what I think probably not yeah I'm going to go caging cope winning here death writers john moxley and will aspirate teaming up against those darn young bucks those
[SPEAKER_03]: What do you got here, John Moxley will all spray Nick Jackson, Matt Jackson, probably going 20 minutes going to be great, but there's going to be some shenanigans at the end here too.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, this is going to be the main event.
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, the box is going to be three different main events.
[SPEAKER_02]: Why don't you know, this is going to be the main event of the show.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think because listen, this is what this is what happens.
[SPEAKER_02]: The bucks, the death writers, the death writers beat team comes in and starts to attack the young bucks, Osprey helps out the, uh, helps help and Omega comes in and Osprey helps them clear out the death writers except the box leaves, not taking part in it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then Osprey and Omega again to some 10 to 10.
[SPEAKER_02]: They have the stare down at the end and there's Moxley with his big,
[SPEAKER_02]: Googly as going oh, what's going on here kind of thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's going to be your ending shot.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's your ending shot.
[SPEAKER_03]: And the chance that the new day actually does close the show.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean Tony Con likes to do this.
[SPEAKER_03]: He did it without a goal and Brian Danielson.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're literally the last thing on the show could be the debut of the new day.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going 98% that the new day is going to be on this show.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is this is the main event of the show.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll call you.
[SPEAKER_03]: versus my a world for the TBS championship.
[SPEAKER_02]: My a world's gonna win this title and she shouldn't, but it's gonna be because everybody was saying that she's gonna win the RLH title because of her showing in the Owen.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love this sheet of heel character, but my a world's winning this to because Tony doesn't like the criticism that my is gonna have to settle for the RLH women's title.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's way too many championships on the show on dynamite and collision way too many.
[SPEAKER_02]: Here's where my debut happens.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think Kyrie's saying comes out after this to challenge my okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: We get Kyrie saying not see something like that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Six-way ladder match.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is the number one contendership for the international championship the international championship currently held by Kyle Fletcher possibly held by Bandito when this match takes place who knows.
[SPEAKER_03]: Jack Perry versus Mortos versus Comander versus Speedball versus Nick Wayne versus L-Clone in a match that could open up any armory in the country.
[SPEAKER_02]: true, but this is also really the only hometown boy on this card in terms of Montreal Quebec, which doesn't consider itself part of Canada, but their speedball Mike Bailey.
[SPEAKER_02]: Speedball Mike Bailey wins this and hey, speedball Mike Bailey versus Bandito for Grand Slam Mexico.
[SPEAKER_02]: That'd be a hot match.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then match number 10, J.
[SPEAKER_03]: White and
[SPEAKER_03]: going up against David Finley and Clark Connors.
[SPEAKER_03]: Did you like Jay White this week on Dynamite?
[SPEAKER_03]: Go and even with Clark Connors because Jay White
[SPEAKER_03]: who has let's face it hasn't been wasted I would say because there's been in some injuries.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's had some top moments on a WTV, but the career of J.
[SPEAKER_03]: White has definitely not gotten to the heights that I think some people thought they would myself included.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now he's tag teaming against David Finley and Clark Connors in a double chain tag team match because you see they're the dogs.
[SPEAKER_03]: You get it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, this is going to be the homage to Raven and Stevie Richards versus the pit bulls.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I did not like the promo that Jay White cut either being tired to beat up.
[SPEAKER_02]: It juices big hype.
[SPEAKER_02]: You have to be even angrier to sell this thing because nobody cares about the dogs.
[SPEAKER_02]: Nobody cares about them.
[SPEAKER_02]: They just go and they get beat.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's going to be, it's going to be the bang bang gang and it's going to be bloody.
[SPEAKER_03]: And if you want all the results of AEW, listen to busted open on WWE Radio next week.