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[SPEAKER_03]: Hello everybody and welcome back to the SuperJay class.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm Joel and as always I'm joined by this guy It's David McDonald's It is Wednesday the 22nd of July 2026.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is episode 418 of the podcast day when what's going on my friend and it's a long time We were doing us a long time.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was thinking about that earlier today about how long we've been in this game
[SPEAKER_02]: Like six years, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Jesus Christ.
[SPEAKER_02]: Amazing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Look at that.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's long every day.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you're right.
[SPEAKER_02]: You are right.
[SPEAKER_02]: You are correct.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's amazing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Time flies when you're having fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: Time flies when you cover the new Japan pro wrestling, the newest Japan pro wrestling.
[SPEAKER_02]: fun stuff and you know I get I get notifications of people joining the Patreon and that's always exciting when we see that and yeah you know after after what eight years in the game you know for finally starting to reap the benefits and not not not just reap the benefits but like you tell me I'm going to ask you a question
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you feel that Patreon has given you a little new breath of fresh air in the sense of?
[SPEAKER_02]: We're doing daily audio.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I made a comment to you that we both kind of make it our own and like we add like little bells and whistles to it and just to kind of make ourselves laugh.
[SPEAKER_02]: Does it, do you feel like it's giving you new life in podcasting if that's a bad term?
[SPEAKER_03]: It has, but the thing is, all the while you were just talking, I was realizing in a panic that YouTube was capturing any of your audio, so I've been frantically trying to fix that while you were asking that very thought-provoking question.
[SPEAKER_03]: You just talk a little bit more so I can check your levels.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: I can just just ran along aimlessly while you check the levels.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then one thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Good.
[SPEAKER_03]: Good question.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't have my question came across, but Patreon has it given you new leases on life when it comes to podcasting in the sense of we're doing the daily audio.
[SPEAKER_02]: for G1 which is fun and we both added little twists and little spice of our own to each of our daily updates.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's been fun so far.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to want to go on one, mind you, but yeah, kind of you stretch your creative legs a little bit.
[SPEAKER_03]: To some extent, yes, and I find creating that additional audio and bonus content, whether that's the challenge of doing a solo review, solo audio, or reaching out to sign up not spoken to before and having like a first time guest on the show to talk about something perhaps beyond my comfort zone, like a DDT show, for example, or just being able to indulge my other hobbies,
[SPEAKER_03]: the Texas chainsaw massacre show that I did with Josh from keeping it strong style.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so all that stuff, it's very enjoyable.
[SPEAKER_03]: I really love doing it.
[SPEAKER_03]: The only thing is that it can be tricky to manage, especially at this time of year with the challenges of being a dad as well, but in the end.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's some, some holidays now and it was actually, I found it easier to do the G1 stuff while it was still turned time.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was then the day has got a bit of structure.
[SPEAKER_03]: But today, in the first day of the holidays, Malie was still at work today, so it was her last day today, so I've been solo parenting, which is fine.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's fucking tiring, man.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll tell you that.
[SPEAKER_03]: harder than actually going to work.
[SPEAKER_03]: The fact that I think it is hard and going to work.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's more probably a bit more rewarding than going to work and don't get me wrong.
[SPEAKER_03]: I love my job, but yeah, it's you know, you wake up in the morning and the kids are up.
[SPEAKER_03]: They usually wait before me and they're dead.
[SPEAKER_03]: What we did today and
[SPEAKER_03]: got a plan out the whole day and then take them out and they're they're they're full on my two.
[SPEAKER_03]: They need a lot of stimulation and they talk to me a lot and ask me a lot of questions and crave interaction with me and that can be quite draining.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I'll take them out today, one, two.
[SPEAKER_03]: went to Tim Smith.
[SPEAKER_03]: So we, yeah, a lovely day, playground, beach, arcade, had lunch together, then I thought, okay, we went to the supermarket, it was wrapping it up and I thought, okay, right, I'll be able to go home and then and watch night five of the great one, Climax and make some notes, so make a bit of time get a kids dinner sorted and then do the audio with you.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then Mali calls me and says, all right, I'll finish work.
[SPEAKER_03]: But my last day, can you come and meet me at this cafe, because I want to have a
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay yeah fine.
[SPEAKER_03]: So then take the kids there and then we're sitting in this cafe and I'm just like looking at my watch light.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to send you the invite for the show and yeah yeah I get it.
[SPEAKER_03]: So they're finally get home.
[SPEAKER_03]: and Malie, you know, she's working really hard.
[SPEAKER_03]: It incredibly difficult job that she does.
[SPEAKER_03]: She's working with some horrendously behaved children.
[SPEAKER_03]: And quite fairly, and she's entitled to this.
[SPEAKER_03]: So as we got home, she's just on the side, which is absolutely fried.
[SPEAKER_03]: And she just didn't move there for like the next four hours, and I'm like, okay, I guess I'm doing everything then.
[SPEAKER_03]: So sort of simultaneously trying to watch G1 show and cook dinner for the kids and look after them
[SPEAKER_03]: getting shower, getting ready for beds.
[SPEAKER_03]: So just like trying to juggle all those things whilst also make time for the audio is bloody hard work man.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's hard work.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's hard work.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's all a tear.
[SPEAKER_03]: Get what it's out please.
[SPEAKER_02]: Please make it worth my while.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's crazy.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's fragile.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's pulling his hair out.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it was funny because everybody I know says similar things, you know, hobbies go literally out the drain, out the door, out the drain, out the door,
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, you know, the kids become prior to one, I get it, sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, but then, I don't know if people have listened a lot of people have, but when we did the Lanza unmasked, he's talking about, ah, it's fucking easy, you know, that's not that big of a deal, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm thinking like, how do you, how did, how do you skirt that?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, how do you, how was it not hard for you?
[SPEAKER_02]: yet everyone I know it's like it has days where you just want to fucking jump off a bridge.
[SPEAKER_02]: What's because this content is not very good, statement.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my goodness gracious.
[SPEAKER_03]: That is that I am doing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you know, there's actually a benchmark of quality, then it's a lot more than long, that's that's that's that's that's terrible that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that right.
[SPEAKER_02]: But he's going to me and it was just like, you know, I was kind of a little bit blown away by it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And again, maybe it's a little lazy fair attitude toward it, you know, you got, you got to have them in the control.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, it's going to sweat me, but I'm just like, wow.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't think I would be, I get fucking frozen with a cat with a, with a needy cat.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, oh, God, we've just please leave me alone for two seconds.
[SPEAKER_02]: You don't have to follow me in every room.
[SPEAKER_03]: But only that, not only like the time challenges in a normal day, then the day's activities finished, got the kids fed and interbed, I've got a little bit of time to watch the show, make some noise, record it, and then by that time I'm just absolutely wiped out.
[SPEAKER_03]: But it's also...
[SPEAKER_03]: I have destroyed my brain with my phone.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I don't have the attention span to do anything for a sustained period of time.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I want to sit down and watch you watch.
[SPEAKER_03]: I actually trying to sort of lock into it and concentrate and focus and come up with interesting things to say about it.
[SPEAKER_03]: that's really hard as well.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now I always manage it and I'll always find something interesting to talk about but it's like I've got a focus for that because my brain would just sort of well I don't know if I've again if this is just abusive technology or if I have some kind of undiagnosed
[SPEAKER_03]: like learning disability, like it's just autism already, yeah, yeah, that's also quite difficult.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm just used to sitting down and giving things my full concentration.
[SPEAKER_03]: I tell you, like in the middle of even this shot, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll have, it's almost like I'm mapping out what I would want to say to certain things in a match.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then I start thinking about, okay, well, how would I freeze that?
[SPEAKER_02]: How would I, how would I present that to an audience on a podcast?
[SPEAKER_02]: How would I make my point as clear as possible?
[SPEAKER_02]: Because obviously I have difficulty making that happen.
[SPEAKER_02]: a jumble word and then the next thing you know five minutes of personal matter I haven't really watched it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm more worried about what I'm going to say at five minutes of personal I got a rewind and I got a fucking get back into it and just be like all right just watch what I'm going to do.
[SPEAKER_03]: I could say the dirty secret here which is you should almost always very little to say about the first 75% of any New Japan for a
[SPEAKER_02]: Correct.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm in mind, I mean, I'm only doing, I'm not doing the non-tortimate matches.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, I'm sure that there's little nuggets and things leading it to the next day.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going right into the fucking main-ounce right here.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not dealing with that.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's me, I'm on my hands and knees shifting through the...
[SPEAKER_03]: Sage, like like the guy in Shorshack with Demision just crawling on my hands and knees through the shits just right here.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's what he finds some kind of nugget of interesting discourse in there.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I hear you.
[SPEAKER_03]: But it's been fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I honestly feel like I.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's much as I can.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I focus in a little bit more.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think he's distracting me.
[SPEAKER_03]: What am I supposed to do?
[SPEAKER_03]: And Malice there, she's all a closer floor than I am.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm up on the mezzanine.
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought I'd try and get some peace and quiet, but Esther's at the bottom of the stairs, showing daddy, Arthur's distracting me.
[SPEAKER_03]: What does that even mean?
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, guess what's distracting me.
[SPEAKER_03]: Distracting me, distracting me.
[SPEAKER_00]: What?
[SPEAKER_03]: Her podcast, she doesn't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: What she's distracting me from.
[SPEAKER_03]: Silly drawing.
[SPEAKER_03]: So who's trying to do silly drawings?
[SPEAKER_03]: You're trying to kick you and whack you, but you tell him that's not acceptable.
[SPEAKER_03]: Tell him we use client hands and feet.
[SPEAKER_03]: And if he does it again, I'll be disappointed.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll be disappointed.
[SPEAKER_02]: We do things with the cat and when the cat gets bored with us, we chant boring at him and Cheryl was like, you know, can we get Joe's kids to just do a voice recording of boring like we did before.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so we can just play it whenever we can.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that they have an assignment.
[SPEAKER_02]: Your children, we were giving your children a summer assignment.
[SPEAKER_02]: I need an audio of them chanting
[SPEAKER_02]: a bunch of ants, we were scanning boring to and a couple other things we were chanting, a boring boring.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, so I need that, please.
[SPEAKER_03]: We also chanting, chanting, I've picked up the Yankoid accent.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well actually, you know what?
[SPEAKER_03]: There's a difference.
[SPEAKER_03]: Obviously there's dialectical differences in British as well.
[SPEAKER_03]: Most of the people I work with and the children I teach, they got the Devon accent.
[SPEAKER_03]: So they would also say like, chant and dance and things like that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Whereas with my London accent, I would say chant and dance.
[SPEAKER_03]: And there's a teacher, I'm not going to say it actually because I don't want to do it myself.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, I was just going to change that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, what's going to say is, were you challenging boring?
[SPEAKER_03]: That's the FIFA World Cup final.
[SPEAKER_03]: Did you watch any of that?
[SPEAKER_02]: I did.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, so sorry.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I did.
[SPEAKER_02]: I did chant boring.
[SPEAKER_02]: I wondered aloud.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, first of all, I'm glad it's over.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to be honest with you.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm glad it's over.
[SPEAKER_02]: I kind of had my fill.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've had my fill of no score.
[SPEAKER_02]: People fucking pretending they're hurt when they're not.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like all the usual American, why is this sport even here?
[SPEAKER_02]: I watched it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was pretty, like Cheryl wanted to watch it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, all right, let me give you the fucking, cause I can't tell the story without telling, like, setting the table.
[SPEAKER_02]: So Cheryl was away all week, and she was just miles away from the house, and where was she, may you ask, watching my brother-in-law's, is that my brother-in-law?
[SPEAKER_02]: Her brother, that would be my brother in the war, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't get it like a piece.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: He, so he went away, he took Sheryl's mom up.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was a Christmas gift.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's finally coming time.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're going on a trip up the main where she lived.
[SPEAKER_02]: So great.
[SPEAKER_02]: But it required her to stay at his house.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he lives in the Port Richmond section of Philadelphia, which is not far from here, maybe 20 minutes,
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, so she's there every fucking day.
[SPEAKER_02]: She goes to work.
[SPEAKER_02]: She goes there and I'm watching, I'm here with the good old Finn the cat.
[SPEAKER_02]: So one day, the final day, she wanted to watch because BTS was going to be on there and it's one of her favorites.
[SPEAKER_02]: So,
[SPEAKER_02]: She was like, I mean, she was pretty excited for the their head little halftime thing because you want to see BTS and that was that.
[SPEAKER_02]: So she saw that and everything else and she was like, all right, I saw BTS, they're the most popular.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah
[SPEAKER_03]: No, it was absolutely horrendous.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was encapsulated, everything that's gone wrong with this well-cut in the nutshell.
[SPEAKER_03]: Just the sort bloated yankoy corporatism of it where it has just become this like financial commodity designed to extract as much commercial value out of its possible, which totally lost sight of what it's supposed to be about in the first place, which is a fucking game of football.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, okay fair enough and and I think it did decent rating but don't you think like a halftime show does like it pulls in casual viewers like, you know, maybe you stick around for the game if you want to see Shakira shaker ass, you know, if you're a fan of pop music.
[SPEAKER_03]: football should be something like gunnersaurus and a giant mascot shaped like a meat pie having a penalty shootout or some sort of competition where people get pulled out from the crowds and you have to put your head to touch in a stick and run around the stick ten times and then take a shot of gold without trying to whip without using your balance and falling
[SPEAKER_02]: No, that's silly and they do that doing, you know, normal game in fucking February, but this is a spectacle, like the whole thing is a spectacle, but you know what I think the fact 15 minute period for half the should be 100%.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's, I'm gonna be honest with you, I don't give a fuck either way, like they can have it or not.
[SPEAKER_02]: I can understand well, like I think we're more
[SPEAKER_02]: exposed to the idea of a halftime show with our super bowls and our, um, we don't really see it in worlds here, but you see it like a ton, you don't necessarily, like there's no halftime and baseball, but even then they'll they'll card out like, they do this thing during the seven-themming of a baseball game and they'll sing God Bless America.
[SPEAKER_02]: They'll dry out some fucking B-level singer.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, if it's infilly, it's got to be poised a man.
[SPEAKER_02]: Poised a man is at every fucking fill out of the event.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's amazing.
[SPEAKER_02]: They are always at everything, singing something.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, no, I like I just saw that the people going nuts over it and I'm like it's not a big deal.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like it's like it's a pretty common place for big events for us.
[SPEAKER_02]: It wasn't a big deal.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think it was very angry and said this is bad.
[SPEAKER_03]: I hate these people.
[SPEAKER_03]: What is this?
[SPEAKER_03]: Don't remember that is, but then Shakira came on the screen and I changed my mind and I thought, oh, it's good now.
[SPEAKER_02]: That was good and then the kids all the little kids singing come on about love and the world You nighting and oh Like fat run out as well.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's my spirit animal just like that one.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay Did you like out there it is tracks?
[SPEAKER_02]: He just great like the muppets did you like the muppet involvement?
[SPEAKER_02]: Did you like that doctor hook band and animal?
[SPEAKER_03]: You're like, yeah, the children enjoyed that.
[SPEAKER_03]: They've got to kick out that and yeah, Esther enjoyed dancing along to the music.
[SPEAKER_03]: Me and Mary had an argument over one of the singers who I somehow managed to correct or identify as Justin Bieber, which she was just not having it.
[SPEAKER_03]: She was like, there's no way that Justin Bieber knows.
[SPEAKER_03]: He doesn't look anything like that.
[SPEAKER_03]: We actually look at Google search for it.
[SPEAKER_02]: You went through Google, you looked like you went through where method don't click, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, I'm going to give them banged up a little bit.
[SPEAKER_02]: And now the only reason I knew it was him,
[SPEAKER_02]: is because he is best buddies with my favorite hockey player, awesome, Matthews, and he's a massive, uh, main police fan.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I knew him.
[SPEAKER_02]: I could pick him out of a police line up.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I knew BTS, just because they're on all the fucking time in my house.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm seeing them, I'm not this weekend, but next weekend, two nights back the back nights.
[SPEAKER_03]: That night life saved him, can hard for me, they've ruined the woke up.
[SPEAKER_03]: Is that right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, you can let sure I'll know that, and she'll be like, I don't know anything about the fucking woke up, and I don't give a shit.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, let's get to the game, shall.
[SPEAKER_02]: I knew Chris Martin from Coldplay, but like you never really saw him.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then there was really fun in the English broadcasts.
[SPEAKER_03]: If you heard of the football play, Wayne Runey.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, of course.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: So they, they're interviewing everyone else on the panel.
[SPEAKER_03]: I would you think, oh yeah, that was really great.
[SPEAKER_03]: I love the kids.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah, the dance was good.
[SPEAKER_03]: I love the lovely costumes.
[SPEAKER_03]: There they are.
[SPEAKER_03]: Wait, what did you think of it?
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, yeah, well, like some of the individual acts, but it's just just crap really.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's the way it was, it was like it is.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but Mikey in the chat is hitting the nail on the head.
[SPEAKER_03]: It said the world cup itself is the spectacle between the water brakes and the half-time show.
[SPEAKER_03]: It lost the spirit of the game.
[SPEAKER_03]: I can't help but feel that as a whole football has been broken and ruined.
[SPEAKER_03]: Something has been taken out of the heart of the game from just nobody cares here, nobody cared.
[SPEAKER_02]: in an, I mean, like, honestly, the people that cared, like the people that went to the finals were just fucking people influences YouTubeers, only fans models was not an actual legit football fan with it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, the more I'm sure we're all radius of that state.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure there were.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, there are Argentina fans.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they're a little bit of a disgrace, and the team, a little bit of a disgrace, a little bit of a disgrace.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna say it as a person who has absolutely no fucking dog in the game.
[SPEAKER_02]: A little disgraceful.
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't believe I will say this.
[SPEAKER_02]: That goal tenders still don't as fucking head.
[SPEAKER_03]: That was my favorite at least like scrolling through Twitter afterwards to see all the funny memes and there was one of the Spain keeper who I see one after the match going around shaking her as all the Cratch and all the Argentina players and the caption was hello my name's who I see one on the Spain goalkeeper.
[SPEAKER_03]: You might not know who I am
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Correct.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Did they had no shot on Gore, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, Argentina.
[SPEAKER_03]: None.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think they had like one during extra time, which was heroically blocked by the face of Arsenal legend Mikhail Marina.
[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, I mean, you're absolutely right.
[SPEAKER_03]: That in terms of the match itself.
[SPEAKER_03]: they seem to have no desire to stick to the rules, they didn't even seem to want to win the game, they just seem focused on winding up their opponents and bending the rules and trying to get one over on the referee.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh no!
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, and I ruined it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, so we just assume if you have a witty idea that I've already thought very well.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm not going to be putting a bit based on that.
[SPEAKER_03]: That you got to see.
[SPEAKER_02]: That you got to see.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's fair.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what you're all right my bad on now and I fuck that up.
[SPEAKER_02]: You gotta tell me beforehand.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just let me know we got a bit and then I'll sniff it out.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll sniff it out.
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't sniff just one out.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not bad.
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel so bad.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, this is pretty clear.
[SPEAKER_03]: Just pull the plug.
[SPEAKER_02]: get another call Josh from keeping a strong start.
[SPEAKER_02]: He likes to go on everyone else's show us.
[SPEAKER_03]: He was supposed to be coming on.
[SPEAKER_03]: I tried to organize a big crossover putt with myself and Chris Hamster and Josh from WeWork's death.
[SPEAKER_03]: But strong style Josh Bigley does he went to the go and watch the Odyssey instead and it wasn't easy.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, look at that.
[SPEAKER_03]: He didn't even like it.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, he didn't even like it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I heard it's long.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm not going to plug in keeping it strong, so I'm going to plug we work stiff instead with a good job.
[SPEAKER_03]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_03]: The best is good.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh.
[SPEAKER_03]: Good job.
[SPEAKER_03]: From we work stiff to an excellent G1 daily audio on his Patreon.
[SPEAKER_03]: So go sign up for that instead.
[SPEAKER_03]: If you've got a subscription to keep in it strong, so I'll cancel that instead, sign up for we work stiff on top of Supershake, I'll start obviously because, you know, there's a hierarchy here.
[SPEAKER_03]: Very good.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh boy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but I'm glad it's over.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to be honest with him.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm glad it's over.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's it was a little much like I just couldn't I there at there were certain points where I was into it and then there were other points where it's like it's just the only thing that's on fucking television at this point I couldn't I couldn't find a groove with it and again.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_02]: I hate I hate I hate
[SPEAKER_02]: These, I hate these games and the final was a perfect example of a team just playing to survive, like that's like, it's the fucking final just go for it to just fucking press a little bit and they had nothing to and it was pretty shitty.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, I guess like I said, I'm I'm I'm over.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm good.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm good.
[SPEAKER_02]: I do how is your World Cup experience?
[SPEAKER_02]: I think you like this is something that you absolutely look for to and once linked, once linked, once England got eliminated where you, where you still, you weren't as into it obviously, but were you still into it?
[SPEAKER_03]: I found myself disliking Argentina so strongly that I was really quite invested in the final and quite desperate for Spain.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're obviously there are three Arsenal players in the Spain team, so that's obviously a big positive for them to win that match.
[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't want those players coming back into the Arsenal squad off the back of a heartbreak in
[SPEAKER_03]: Not only a heartbreak in Champions League, from a little defeat with Arsenal, but then the heartbreak in well-cut final defeat on international engineering.
[SPEAKER_03]: That would have been really quite very terrible.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, yeah, one, hate Argentina, so that's happy for Spain to win, and also the kind of tangential Arsenal boost there.
[SPEAKER_03]: That was important to me.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I mean, I did enjoy...
[SPEAKER_03]: going down the rabbit hole.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's a lot of fun conspiracy theories doing the round white footage of the Argentine players coming out of their dressing room before the match looking all sad like something that they've been crying and there's a lot of speculation like what happened with they give us some bad news like did someone threaten their families and say like they have to throw the game otherwise they're going to have loved ones
[SPEAKER_03]: that too.
[SPEAKER_03]: The more I looked at it, the more the algorithm kept giving me stuff to it.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then I started seeing videos that were saying the world got final was a Masonic power transfer of ritual.
[SPEAKER_03]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_03]: They'd hypnotized Leonardo Messi.
[SPEAKER_03]: So the cabal of...
[SPEAKER_03]: It is a men that control the world.
[SPEAKER_03]: I probably had enough free for World Cup for now, so I logged off and did something else.
[SPEAKER_03]: Watch a milking table video.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because you seem to have that you seem to have the entire, that's what you look like.
[SPEAKER_02]: He didn't like he was walking off to penises on his face.
[SPEAKER_02]: It does.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now that you mentioned it, it utilizes entrance does have that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I gotta be honest with you, I'm not a big fan of the milking table.
[SPEAKER_02]: Not a big fan of the milking table.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, not someone not liking you.
[SPEAKER_03]: Someone did like the old one.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I'm going to find it.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I get ads for this podcast before the flagship and I don't think they sell the show well at all.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know why you think Dick jokes on pornography is a selling point for a wrestling podcast.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I would reasonably suggest it's more off-putting than attractive and I was like, well, he's got a point.
[SPEAKER_03]: But you know, if the shoe fits,
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we are, we are the ugly, uh, step-chall.
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, well, again, we, we, we, we recorded, we did redo it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, so it's good that person might be happy.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's more obnoxious and fucking, I think than than the dick joke thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, but, yeah, you know, well, it's okay, Chris.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I replied to this person and I said, okay, so how do you think we should sell it?
[SPEAKER_03]: What are your favorite aspects of the show?
[SPEAKER_03]: And silence.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's the resource of that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, look, we were told to do it and you know whenever we have some type of response, but have you, has this person ever heard her fucking live adread for like the next question is, is a, is a, a listen to the superjacos, no, okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we probably listen to something else and hear the, are fucking stinger and they're like, I'm on, is this shit?
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, here's the thing, we can afford to do that.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the really it.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's really the absolute contempt for our audience and even less respects for people who don't listen to the fog, absolutely correct.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you do get that, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, one of the funniest things was at Christam's barbeque, not the name drop, but we're having an conversation and they're talking about, yeah,
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, how did you get all your Patreon people and how did you get your listeners and how and I was like, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: We just do a fucking show.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, I don't want to know how many people listen.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to know.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to know how many people subscribe.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to know people.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're asking you about how we got subscribed to our Patreon.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Who was asking Christ?
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not going to say no.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, I'm going to be also joked at all the fucking work.
[SPEAKER_02]: And for the Patreon stuff, I said, the show, we've been doing it for fucking six years and we got good and we don't care, like that's really the key, like, like, to absolutely not care and just do a show is the most vital and important thing to keep going doing a show for eight years.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, we've come to the conclusion long ago that you can't please everybody.
[SPEAKER_02]: So why not please ourselves?
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, like, well, and we don't work good at pleasing myself.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, well, I'm an expert, my friend.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let me tell you, I have five.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you do it left handed, just make it feel like somebody else.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's in your hand for a bit, meant to go as normal.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm doing it again.
[SPEAKER_03]: I know we're now bringing back the original controllers.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it was more accurate.
[SPEAKER_02]: It really was.
[SPEAKER_02]: But again, I was like, I said, I'm telling you the honest of God truth, I don't care.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I want people to listen and I want paint around subscribers, but don't tell me how many there is.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to know.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, don't want to know.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then I got a conversation over Ronnie Garvin.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, Ronnie Garvin's thanks.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry, Ronnie Garvin's thanks.
[SPEAKER_02]: I used not for me.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's the most fucking boring piece of away bread on God's green earth.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then somebody was making a, trying to make it, I was like, dude, I was there.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was there for every fucking month at the Civic Center.
[SPEAKER_02]: I, I, I'd lived it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I turned every week, I'm watching World Wide Wrestling on Channel 17 in Philadelphia, tour clock on Saturday, I, and TBS at night.
[SPEAKER_02]: at 6.05, like I'm not guy, like I was there, he's things.
[SPEAKER_02]: Stop, stop trying to revisit fucking history.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's not, he's not, he's not, he's not, he's not.
[SPEAKER_02]: what people are trying to make him out of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, it's just not.
[SPEAKER_02]: So there they go, there are two highlights from the SAMHSA barbecue, which was a lot of fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm still thinking about those ribs so there's ribs in really fucking good.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, we're a cup.
[SPEAKER_02]: So again, overall experience and the final and a half time.
[SPEAKER_03]: And yeah, there you go.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was happy with how things ended for England because we had really threading third-fold place playoff, which I was going to skip, but I thought, you know what, I'll watch it.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then the third place playoff, you saw that one.
[SPEAKER_03]: And ended up, yeah, the two losing semi-finals have to play each other.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's time to call it that.
[SPEAKER_03]: No one wants to play that, everyone wants to play that one.
[SPEAKER_03]: But England ended up being France six-four, which is...
[SPEAKER_03]: It was a great game, it was so much fun,
[SPEAKER_03]: It was played the right spirit and none of the defenders were making any of it have to face apples or stuff I think they'd had a little gentleman's agreement like look lad's that's just Keep it like no one gets hurt and yeah, just just got there and enjoy a Celsius
[SPEAKER_03]: We're a second, but, you know, I don't know, maybe?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, maybe.
[SPEAKER_03]: Texas, officially the third best football team country of the world, which is can't take that away.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's pretty good.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, it's metal, maybe we'll do that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll take that.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, an entire world.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's like, like Phil Love was making a big deal.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, we had a lot of people come to our fan fest.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was free.
[SPEAKER_03]: And boy, we've rolled out the red carpet for the world.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think I'll be honest with everybody's just kind of like, all right, we're kind of like, this is fucking bad.
[UNKNOWN]: We'll get back to you, please.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, like, and that's the thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, it was a lot of people supporting their teams from different countries that came here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I don't know anyone besides me that went to a game.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I only went to a game because they gave me money.
[SPEAKER_02]: They go.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's just not a thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's okay, like we don't have to show it down or fucking pet it in the world cup as I interrupt your move.
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought the G1 climax statement.
[SPEAKER_02]: Ah, that's a tournament I can seek my teeth until this is something we can get behind.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's good.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's really good.
[SPEAKER_02]: I so far, so far.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, and I'm not just saying this just to say it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have enjoyed and dare I say I have looked forward when I know it's it's game day and I look forward to it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love waking up in the morning, rolling over, grabbing my remote control and popping on G1.
[SPEAKER_02]: By the time I wake up, the replay is uploaded.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's ready to go.
[SPEAKER_02]: Ready to go for me.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't have to wake up at one o'clock in the morning to watch it live.
[SPEAKER_02]: I catch it right when I wake up at 6 o'clock.
[SPEAKER_02]: Boom, right there.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're ready to go.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sometimes, if they start at 4 a.m.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm able to catch like the main event live and then I have the wait for them to upload, but yet I look forward to every every fucking game day.
[SPEAKER_02]: I look forward to it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's been absolutely enjoyable.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't get.
[SPEAKER_02]: And here's the thing, too.
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like.
[SPEAKER_02]: There have been plenty of times where we've been negative, but we're not afraid to be positive about things that we enjoy, especially in the past, you know, five years, you know, we're starving for things to enjoy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I don't think this is us, like, trying to find a fucking...
[SPEAKER_02]: you know, we're like panhand and for gold, you know, we're in a fucking river banks with a little sifter with rocks hoping to find a flake of good.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that does not it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think every show has been at the very least good.
[SPEAKER_02]: There have been some very good moments, very good matches.
[SPEAKER_02]: Again, just like with
[SPEAKER_02]: But overall, nothing's been bad.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like there's nothing where I turn off a mountain and be like, geez, that was gross.
[SPEAKER_02]: That was the shit.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, everything's been at least for me anyway.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's been on a range of good, a range of good, and then you have stuff that's been very good.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, agreed.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I think.
[SPEAKER_03]: The most controversial match so far was the goto vs. Jake Lee won, which I reviewed by the way.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, the one where Jake pretending to have injuries.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought that was a game.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I didn't think that was terrible.
[SPEAKER_03]: It works like in the narrative.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it worked for the character.
[SPEAKER_03]: It tied in nicely to the injury that he's suffering in the past against the same person.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think it's good, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I put the dose type of matches, like you're going to get them, like I don't know what, like other people's G ones they were watching, you know, where every match is as fucking 952 star like like usually it's one or two matches that are set the tone and then there are other ones that, you know, you just
[SPEAKER_02]: You're going to be good, they're not affected to be great.
[SPEAKER_03]: Back in the day, when Yano would do something like that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, Yano, he's so funny and good.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I like this.
[SPEAKER_03]: But then when Jake Leath does it, oh, it's bad.
[SPEAKER_03]: Why isn't he running the ropes and doing high work, great stuff?
[SPEAKER_03]: And you know what, Damon?
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just another form of racism.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a dog.
[SPEAKER_03]: And anti-Korean agenda.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not having it.
[SPEAKER_03]: What is it?
[SPEAKER_03]: Jake Leath is good now.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't even listen, he's what he's doing.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's over shooting my low expectations, which is all that I really wanted, you know, going into this and previewing G1.
[SPEAKER_02]: We, you know, we had a lot of moments of, how is this fucking guy even going to make it through G1, let alone, you know, do anything that that's that we're going to be talking about positively.
[SPEAKER_02]: and him, and I also have to tip my cap, my glittery, yellow, gigantic sun bonnet hat, just to synonym.
[SPEAKER_02]: Correct.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have to, look, I made a comment to you, and I know we're going to take, like we covered all these matches in depth, Patreon, 10 bucks, fresh out of the box.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, have you seen the state of fucking synoders?
[SPEAKER_02]: I think those are his last form.
[SPEAKER_01]: It looks like an old man.
[SPEAKER_01]: He looks like a fucking 90-year-old man's arm.
[SPEAKER_02]: It is atrophied so bad.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I'm afraid for him to take a bump that he's just going to fucking shatter in a million pieces.
[SPEAKER_02]: But he has absolutely zero muscular upper body definition.
[SPEAKER_02]: gone.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like that injury has fucking depleted him.
[SPEAKER_02]: And yet he's still gone out there and having good matches.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like that match with his youth.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's leaned into it.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's the part of the narrative now.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's acknowledged.
[SPEAKER_03]: He said publicly, look, I can't do stuff with this arm that I used to be able to do.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm going to have to compensate in other ways.
[SPEAKER_03]: And that was the whole narrative of that brilliant match that he had with
[SPEAKER_03]: go to Suji.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was great.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he had to go.
[SPEAKER_03]: He was going through all his classic moves, all his like vintage moves set from the various areas of Sonana, but it wasn't able to get it done because of his, his atrophied arm.
[SPEAKER_03]: He, you know, couldn't lock in the scallions and couldn't get the grip and the power on certain moves.
[SPEAKER_03]: So at the end he's like, fuck it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just going to kick him in the balls.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Just that was a hell of a ride because you know the crowd were just getting on board and be like, Oh, yes, he's back.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's back.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's best.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, we love this guy, but then right there.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, no.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, you mother fucker now.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: He look like a here's I've conflicting thoughts.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's the problem that's going on in my head and trying to get out to my mouth.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's it's conflicting thought because one I'm like, okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, I don't let
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't remember him looking like this in Chicago.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe I missed it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And again, we were a little bit back.
[SPEAKER_02]: So you're not really getting the best advantage of point for close-ups.
[SPEAKER_02]: But was his arm as fucked in Chicago?
[SPEAKER_02]: It looked like it's gotten progressively worse as the tournament is going on.
[SPEAKER_02]: Am I out of my mind?
[SPEAKER_02]: No, it's been allowed that since he's retired from his injury.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't remember it being that bad.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, maybe I wasn't paying attention too hard to fucking sonata, but boy, that match.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so there's a part of me that's like, all right, this is the mother fucker should never have been in this tournament.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, it's just, and whoever said, whoever gave him the green light, like, I'm not even blaming him, or a pro wrestler is going to be like, yeah, I'm fine.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going in, I'm going in, I'm going in, give me the, yep, yep, I'm in.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep, yep, oh, what?
[SPEAKER_02]: It's, oh, it's just a bloody sum.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's fine.
[SPEAKER_02]: I blame the company for putting a him in there.
[SPEAKER_02]: I really do.
[SPEAKER_02]: You should not be in there.
[SPEAKER_02]: That said, he's great.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, he's the best investor in the bar.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, well, let's pump the brakes now.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's pump the brakes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Again, to be fair, going into it, I had zero expectations.
[SPEAKER_02]: I figured we just get on here and
[SPEAKER_02]: It would be like, all right, we saw two Sonata matches, but we get it.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're fast rewarding.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's not been the case.
[SPEAKER_02]: He is absolutely outshot.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know how sustainable this is, though, Joel.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's be very truthful.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know how fuck.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so again, conflicting thoughts.
[SPEAKER_02]: He shouldn't be in it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they're probably guys like, again, I'll throw out names.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just throwing out random names that aren't in it, mind.
[SPEAKER_02]: who else is not in it, that should be in it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Take your fucking pack, whatever, you get my point.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like they could be in it, that, but he's making the most of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yo to Suji, during that match, really protected him and you could see him physically taking his arm and moving it in safe spots to not,
[SPEAKER_02]: hurt him, which I thought was tremendous.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you want to know my headline so far in G1.
[SPEAKER_02]: My headline is, I have zero doubts and zero conflicting thoughts that Yota Suji is a top guy in New Japan per vessel.
[SPEAKER_02]: if not the top guy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, and I'm talking like we can build shit around this guy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like he is a
[SPEAKER_02]: bonafide guy in New Japan pro wrestling.
[SPEAKER_02]: If there was any of them, he is truly a guy.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's a guy I have zero fear for your main eventing wrestle kingdoms moving forward like zero.
[SPEAKER_02]: He has been my MVP 100% he's been my MVP.
[SPEAKER_02]: Looks carries himself
[SPEAKER_02]: in-ring the whole nine yards.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he's your fucking world champion.
[SPEAKER_02]: Taking some pinfalls, though, that's for sure, which I find interesting, say the least.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he's been outstanding, and again, during the Sonata match, he was right.
[SPEAKER_02]: But again, for review, Patreon, Joe had this one covered, and I texted them again, I was like, you're fucking nail on the reviews.
[SPEAKER_02]: I look forward to them, so most enjoyable half an hour of my fucking death.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, if you're not on board, do it because they're great.
[SPEAKER_03]: There was ID, we were alternating, diamond, fantastic as well.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think you've really nailed it with a couple of poets that you made, which I will tie into discussion with come up to soon about the B-block, but yeah, it's an excellent value for money.
[SPEAKER_03]: So patreon.com for slash superzacast, get on the utility for that, and lots more excellent content to come.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I agree with the point and Suji, I think yeah, I think I said yesterday that he's
[SPEAKER_03]: dial it back a bit in terms of trying to get all his shit in in the match and is now kind of feeling out each match on its own terms and so like for example yesterday that was a match all about Sonada, like the the combat, the renaissance of Sonada and
[SPEAKER_03]: the crowd wanted to cheer for him.
[SPEAKER_03]: So Suji is not afraid to be like, okay, right, you want to cheer for him?
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, fuck you, I'm gonna wear the black hat for this match, and be a bit of a dick, be a bit of an asshole.
[SPEAKER_03]: Josh from WeWorks, stiff, was talking about how there's something about the orcada to the way that.
[SPEAKER_03]: two years has conducted himself and wrestling as matches these days, like both in terms of having a match layout where he will play to his opponents strengths and sort of wrestle their style of match now rather than just doing the same go to Suji match each time.
[SPEAKER_03]: And also as as Mikey says in the chat, every since he called Kidani a bit, she's been the rest of, yes, so yeah, he's not afraid to speak his minds and you know, tow that line between
[SPEAKER_03]: Listings on g1climax36.versal.app, yes, and I think I suspect you know to sugy is going to be very high.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so here's my highest rated block A wrestler and overall here's my joint highest together with Zack Saber Jr.
[SPEAKER_03]: I've got them both rated 4.0H stars after three matches.
[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, he's been excellent.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now I haven't done today's for
[SPEAKER_02]: g1climax36.versal.app.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have not done today's, but my top rated, okay, again, because I can't move my top 10, either my top 10, cards, I don't know where I think it, but I guarantee it is.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mr. Yo to Suji is number one.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's I think he's been just Like comforting is a great word.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think I'll use like he's I'm I'm absolutely comfortable with him whereas did I have doubts before?
[SPEAKER_02]: not a lot, but it was a little bit.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's made a van to everything he's been in, and I think everything that he's been in has been the stuff that people are talking about in this tournament.
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, he's been outstanding.
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, again, I needed to point out Jake Lee specifically, Anne Sonata as guys that going into this zero expectation.
[SPEAKER_02]: So like fucking,
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, the Earth's core was the fucking floor, and they've been a pleasant surprise, pleasant surprise.
[SPEAKER_03]: Just two real things I want to touch on from a block before we move on to talking about today's B-block show.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: One, I don't know how much weight to put into this, but I've been told that Greg O'Con is trying now that he's motivated, which we're trying to figure out what that might have been either he's trying to impress someone or someone's told him off.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I thought he did really well against oil.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not going to redo that match of you, but he was crap on the first night against Utah ice.
[SPEAKER_03]: Then I thought he was actually really good against oil.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's kind of like flipping a coin, like what kind of great a kind of we're going to get.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I believe he's got a rocky goto next.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, again, just watch this space, because I was totally hand waving at the start of the tournament and quite annoyed that he'd been included, because he looked completely checked out.
[SPEAKER_03]: But let's just see what he does in his next match, because if he's got his work in boots on again,
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, he even might just be reading the room and sort of looking around and thinking, fuck, you know, there's 19 other guys here who are busting their balls, trying to put on a good show.
[SPEAKER_03]: I can't be the only person letting us down, fucking, you know, look, it's an adder over there with one arm.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's got one functioning limb and he's still managing to put a bang on and work his socks off.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm going to look like a bit of a twative on the only person phoning in each night.
[SPEAKER_03]: So again, watch that space.
[SPEAKER_03]: Last thing for a block, what are your thoughts on you to eye so far?
[SPEAKER_03]: I've enjoyed everything.
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought that the cash to match was very good.
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought that was on my very good list.
[SPEAKER_02]: You made a comment, and I want to address one thing that you said.
[SPEAKER_02]: Is it about the milking table because we did that?
[SPEAKER_02]: We did that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have that checked off of my list.
[SPEAKER_02]: is a charisma cannon, like he has that.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he's able to work that gimmick that he has, whether you want to call him street or whatever.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hop hoppy, I don't know, it's not for me, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: But he has,
[SPEAKER_02]: found a way to absolutely become what he is projecting.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that is incredibly, incredibly refreshing.
[SPEAKER_02]: And
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe the hardest thing to do, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: To go out there in the ring, physically, well, listen, you're doing Hindu squats to your throw up.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're doing young lion matches until you throw up.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then you go away and you come back and you say, okay, here's your shit.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's a guy that reminds me of when people throw around.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's, you know, too prideful,
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, he's not smart enough to fucking not know when to stop, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: He's got more guts than brains.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's, I love that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I got no problem with that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I find it somewhat amazing that there are still people kind of like while he's he's, you know, kind of hidden away in the tag team and let's see what he can do as a single's like okay fair enough and I think everybody's doing that like I think everybody's doing that for a lot of people Aaron Wolfe boat mode.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oscar, go down the list, and he's one of them, but I don't want this to the sound like he's a guy that I'm going to pop in a wrestling domain event like tomorrow.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, like this this thing will develop and grow.
[SPEAKER_02]: But in the year that he's been around, maybe a little bit, you know, probably closer to two years actually.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I think I feel like there's like name me another guy that has
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, they don't fall for trees in New Japan pro wrestling.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, they take a wild to become comfortable in who they are and what they are.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you didn't show to Umano was comfortable.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, thank fucking, you know, who never, and all right, look at the little the iterations of Hanoi, you know?
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like how long did Naito take to get it out?
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, Christ.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, that's probably the most famous one.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, if you want to go back even further, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, it takes time, like, and I don't even think that this is like the full form you to ice that will have in three years or five years.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, it will grow in the develop and a little more.
[SPEAKER_02]: But even right now, I feel like he's clicking on all cylinders when it comes to that in-ring.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think he's solid, he's strong.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have zero problems with you to ice.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, that's the least of New Japan's progressance problems.
[SPEAKER_03]: Michael makes a good point.
[SPEAKER_03]: He says he's so confident in himself.
[SPEAKER_03]: People are desperate for him to fail.
[SPEAKER_03]: And he's very sorry to that.
[SPEAKER_03]: And also that kind of ties in with the sort of, he's sort of blurred the lines between K-favorite reality really nicely because yeah, he is cocky and he also can't wrestle very well.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, he's not a well-rounded wrestler.
[SPEAKER_03]: He can't do the the Matt grappling and the transitions and the nice sort of fluid floaty stuff that like a U at Oemura can.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's a brawler.
[SPEAKER_03]: and his matches are very one note but that's sort of the story isn't it that he is getting beaten quite comfortably by guys who who do have lots of different aspects to that in their locker and like to catch the catch the catch absolutely score him and he's also he's got the pedigrees as uh... tag wrestler but not got the record as a singles wrestler say
[SPEAKER_03]: It's his first G1 and Patrick, and just had a series of unremarkable losses and being like, oh, well, okay, this guy's just not on the level, is everyone else.
[SPEAKER_03]: He is managing to tell that story, but also making himself very compelling and charismatic and sympathetic in the process of getting his ass and it's been on a plate every night.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I think what he's doing is actually
[SPEAKER_03]: improve those other aspects of his game and of course I believe that he can like I've said before wrestlers are not static especially the young guys the inexperienced guys they're only going to improve so those parts of their game where they're a bit ropy they're that's going to get better when they got more opportunities and wrestling competitions like the G1 climates where they get
[SPEAKER_03]: extended periods of time at the spotlight on the work and with a range of experience, opponents and different styles of wrestling.
[SPEAKER_03]: So this is the only way he's going to get better.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I just think it's mental to be demanding for wrestlers like him to be the finished fully rounded, complete package right off the bat, like ridiculous to expect that.
[SPEAKER_02]: look at look at I mean how many people this is why I'm kind of amped up over G1 because but it's it's finally we're having really solid conversations about a myriad of guys performing in their first G1 like that is like okay if they do even if they do very well
[SPEAKER_02]: They're only going to get better.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're only going to improve.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're only going to become more well-rounded.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, this is a lot of guys, and I correct me if I'm wrong.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is the most single year wrestlers in a G1, and there's like, for a long time, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like you would have like one or two, but you wouldn't have so many single,
[SPEAKER_02]: Wolf, open balling, but not like, all like, all like, that's not his first year.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, there's a second one, isn't it?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's, woof.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oscar and Utah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Who was my missing?
[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, he's been in.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe maybe I'm fucking blowing smoke down.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that's even more disappointing, I guess, because I got some thoughts about oligopalton and botanolic, both of them.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let me guess.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: If anybody, if there's anybody that I'm worried about a Tim, Wow.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm worried about him.
[SPEAKER_02]: One.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think he's very awkward.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I talked about Oscar and how big he is and how Paul is and how you might expect him to be tripping over his own fucking two feet and it's clumsy and just gangily and it's not that at all.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's not that.
[SPEAKER_02]: But for Bolton, I see him constantly his tripping over his feet and not really like what's those shoulder tackles and where they're cross crossing ropes and like he just feels like he gets everywhere, a second lead, he gets everywhere a second lead, charisma, yes, there's nothing there, there's nothing there, like
[SPEAKER_02]: I know New Japan can lean heavy on legitimate fighting background and legitimate athlete status and they've done it for since 1972.
[SPEAKER_02]: No doubt.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I know this is an unpolished stone.
[SPEAKER_02]: I get it.
[SPEAKER_02]: What am I missing with this guy like and like like do you see this guy and I think you brought this up as well Like I don't see this guy had a lining rest of kingdoms.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't see this guy had lining dominions.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't see this guy Like upper half on the card Like they're giving them these titles never you know some six man stuff He's been around longer and again this it with this is his second one which it is like
[SPEAKER_02]: Jo, I don't see it.
[SPEAKER_02]: What am I missing?
[SPEAKER_02]: He's big.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's strong.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's athletic.
[SPEAKER_02]: He likes to toss people around.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: What is this guy?
[SPEAKER_02]: He's an athlete.
[SPEAKER_02]: But like what?
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't want to sit here and talk like fucking bubble right, Dudley.
[SPEAKER_02]: You got to, you know, it's the stories.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm doing
[SPEAKER_03]: how they received him in the Schingo match yesterday, which one of his first main events that I can recall and being able to cut that post.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's saying that match was good.
[SPEAKER_03]: Good, not great.
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll go good as well on the lower half of good.
[SPEAKER_02]: Again, Schingo, mind you.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think he's good at a particular style of match, where he's doing that kind of
[SPEAKER_03]: Pintence, he typework, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: Big, big, big, big, big stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, like, I don't think he doesn't particularly well, like, for that, like, I'm waiting for the, like, the real hard-hitting shit.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I think he's, I don't think he lays shit in,
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, like, I don't get the feeling of him being this fucking fire plug guy that is just a rocking ball, he's going to come in there and fucking toss people around like, and he's the charisma is void.
[SPEAKER_03]: Help me help me fight, like, I agreed with you on the charisma there.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, that was my point in the old judge did yesterday that he's not got
[SPEAKER_03]: any sort of personality, there is no, there is no character there.
[SPEAKER_03]: So that to me is my biggest issue with him.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I also agree with your point that he's not got quite got that kind of fluidity, that flexibility, that smoothness, that top, top wrestlers do.
[SPEAKER_03]: So basically what I've seen from him so far in a skill set, I can see sort of
[SPEAKER_03]: upper midcard like an issue kind of role where issue was, you know, very good at particular set of things but due to whether it's a size or his personality, charisma, lack there of inability to cut a promo, whatever was never able to make it past that point.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, and again that's perfectly fine.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like not everyone has to be a future rest of Kingdom main eventer.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't
[SPEAKER_03]: like massive transcendental star potential in Bolton, either, but I certainly think he has value to the roster.
[SPEAKER_03]: And again, like we're giving other guys the leeway to say that they might get better at stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: He might improve on those things as well.
[SPEAKER_03]: the crowd love him, you know, he's obviously able to speak for Japanese and I think that's where something is well.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I just need to see a bit more range from him in order to reassess my opinion that I just think, yeah, he's up a midcard guy.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then that's okay, like the rush doesn't need people like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I hear you loud and clear.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, actually I don't, you're very jumbly.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if you're walking around or everyone's from Wi-Fi issues or what have you.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I get to just, and yes, again, once again, he's an unpolished stone, but if I were going to sit here and say of all the guys,
[SPEAKER_02]: that are in that realm and that level of first second year kind of guy you know we're trying to do something with him we're trying to make him like right now he's in the bottom of my list.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like name me a guy that you're more concerned with than him.
[SPEAKER_02]: on this roster, like not Oscar, not you-to-ice, not show-to-off, obviously, not you-ya, not-not-not even rent, I mean, and I think rent is a bit comparison because he's got even more time here, like, who's the guy that you're like, like, who would you swap?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, would you get rid of anybody
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, he's probably first on my list to go.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if you can get a very extreme here to not, we're firing the guy who, I'm not saying far, but like, if we had to, like, I don't see it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just, and, and, you know how, like, we're sitting or talking about how we want guys, you know, we want people to recognize that,
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, he's in the business short amount of time comparatively and he's planning a loop to learn and the the but hasn't even bought some yet, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, but a lot of other guys and again, we're doing that just based off of what we see now and we're only going to get better because the floor is higher for me anyway for a lot of these guys into this for him.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I feel like there's so much more that has to occur for him to get even to the level of a lot of the other guys that I mentioned.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm not confident right now that he's a guy that I would hang my hat on moving forward.
[SPEAKER_02]: Again, they can things change a thousand percent.
[SPEAKER_02]: But if I'm going to be high on people, I can also be here in my concerns.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he is without question, a concern.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't think the company
[SPEAKER_02]: I think the company recognizes that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think they're trying to do what they can with them.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't see it right now, Joel.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I would be, it would be, I don't think I would be doing a service to myself, if I sat here and tried to sit here and spin it, that okay, everything's okay, 100% with all the talent we have, I do have concerns with him.
[SPEAKER_02]: I really do.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, well, it just depends what your expectations are.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think if it's sort of up a midcard wrestler who wins tag titles, the occasional secondary title, might challenge for the heavyweight belt from time to time, it's fine, he's on that trajectory, that's OK. At no point did I look at him and think, this is the guy that's got to save the company.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's not in that tier, he's not got that skill set.
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's all right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, I mean, yes, I think I, I think my expectations would would be, and again, not yet, not now, not here.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm projecting upper middle card.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I don't know how we get there with him.
[SPEAKER_02]: Again, maybe it's just time and I need to be a little bit more patient.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe maybe that's the case.
[SPEAKER_02]: But, um, he's not a spring chicken eater.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's not 20, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: He's in his
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: Is he going?
[SPEAKER_02]: I think he's in his mid 30s.
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, I'm worried, I don't think, I don't, again, I look at other people where he is, he's going to get laughed.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm telling you, he's going to get laughed.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I can be wrong.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've been wrong before.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm willing to be wrong again.
[SPEAKER_03]: Joel, you back yet.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm back.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, boy, that's okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not one thing that's another people.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna let him know we lost him.
[SPEAKER_02]: We lost him, you, Joe A, for hang-ups.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, but I can still wait.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so here it is.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, you're, you're jumbled up, you're, you're, for the past five minutes, it's been digital noise on your end.
[SPEAKER_02]: to get with your Wi-Fi, can people join Patreon so we can get Joel a real Wi-Fi provider this is of eight years, eight years of the worst internet service, so you can possibly have, and again, I live in the middle of nowhere, I know, that's to be fair, there be fair, I'm surprised you have any Wi-Fi, be quite honest with you.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm fine though, you are sounding fantastic now, yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, let's keep rolling.
[SPEAKER_03]: Then should we move on then to talk about this B block show.
[SPEAKER_03]: So this is a Nagaruka.
[SPEAKER_03]: This was night five in the city hall Plaza, Aure Nagaruka, Nigata.
[SPEAKER_03]: We ended the tent.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a 1,500, you know 1,5555.
[SPEAKER_03]: And that is up eight from last year.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's go.
[SPEAKER_03]: So we are absolutely flying, Damon, for a midweek show in Nagarga.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's wonderful news.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's part of over in the champagne.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's go straight on to the block matches then because I didn't have a chance to watch the undercard stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was, first of all, Gabe Kidd, the thing Aaron Wolf, nine minutes, 51 seconds with a drill-a-hole pile driver.
[SPEAKER_03]: What did you think of this one?
[SPEAKER_02]: I've had a small complaint when I was doing the daily audio that I was kind of like all right, we get we get a game you hate New Japan you think it's the fucking toilet bowl.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't even want this title.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna kick it to the curb all that stuff
[SPEAKER_02]: This was actually, I loved his opening with the key and mocking Aaron Wolf's legitimate martial arts background.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, I think the biggest thing that we wanted probably for all of us was the progression of Aaron Wolf.
[SPEAKER_02]: working experience, working in front of a crowd, against a myriad of different opponents, and it's exciting.
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought the match was good.
[SPEAKER_02]: A lot of, you know, your balls outside the ring.
[SPEAKER_02]: I will say this, I like Gabe kid's pile driver.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm always there when he gets like guys like Oscar and Aaron Wolf guys that are like sizable, getting them up and hitting that pile.
[SPEAKER_02]: I do think that is the look of that is really smart.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like it really is sharp.
[SPEAKER_02]: Aaron Wolf has held his own guys.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like he has absolutely held his own.
[SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't look lost.
[SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't look like he's uncomfortable.
[SPEAKER_02]: Again, are we keeping things a little simpler?
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe possibly.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like he hasn't really done that epic thing and we're not asking him to do that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, he's he's and quickly from wrong, the feedback that we have heard is that he is like a sponge and he is like letting veterans dictate matches and he's there for it all like he's not.
[SPEAKER_02]: out of place and missed time and like he's there for everything.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, I saw someone a while back what it was like working with him and they said like, duh, this guy's fucking great.
[SPEAKER_03]: Just listens to everything, follows everything, adds his own ideas to things.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and yeah, I've had nothing but good stuff about him.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so I think, again, I know everybody has the the microscope out and wants to see what they have with Aaron Wolf and I'll tell you flat out right now.
[SPEAKER_02]: One, things are only going to get better.
[SPEAKER_02]: Within this very G1, things are only going to get better, and two, he has been very good up to this point, better than a lot of people would have expected six months into a this
[SPEAKER_02]: Again, he's not trying to overcomplicate things and do things that are like well outside of his wheelhouse, but in the same breath, like it does feel like he's stretching his wings a bit and and that is good because he's keeping up and he doesn't look lost.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, if I'm giving a letter grade so far, he gets a B plus A minus, like like he, for a guy six fucking months into this business, I think he's doing
[SPEAKER_02]: better than I would have even thought.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to put it that way.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the game kid match was
[SPEAKER_02]: uh... fun and again we're seeing him in a mirror at a different opponents and it's and uh... i can't wait for our own wolf matches let's put it that way i can't fucking wait for our own wolf matches because i'm it's just so pumped of what the what this will look like i wish i had that fast forward button and i could go a year and a half two years and see where we are with this cat um...
[SPEAKER_02]: And then, but, you know, on the same birthday, I'm enjoying the ride, and I'm enjoying the, you know, this so far, this is exactly what we wanted.
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't, I can't, I can't complain.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I might be the time owner.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, I absolutely love this much.
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought it was fantastic.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was the first time I think I've really seen Aaron Wolf letting loose, like properly throwing an opponent with the handbrake off.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like early on in the match, he was just absolutely ragged all in Gabe and it looked tremendous.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like up until that point, when he'd done those judo throws, it felt like he was just being a little bit careful, like he was scared of hurting his opponent.
[SPEAKER_03]: But with Gabe here, it's just like,
[SPEAKER_03]: shit was just like that.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're flinging him across the rig and Gabe was selling it brilliantly.
[SPEAKER_03]: I liked his facial expressions.
[SPEAKER_03]: He was just like, oh shit, what have I done here?
[SPEAKER_03]: I've got myself into trouble.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm quite enjoying Gabe and I might be the, the, um,
[SPEAKER_03]: on an island here, but I quite enjoy the shithousing.
[SPEAKER_03]: When he ran over to the picture of Wolf's face on that mural on the water and was, um, besmirching it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: I found that quite entertaining.
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought that the slap the forearm exchange was really good.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, Wolf got really nice, big meaty.
[SPEAKER_03]: slapping there, not sure how he did it, if it was the slapping the old, whatever, but it looked great in the way the camera angle got it, it just like, it looked very, very crisp and aggressive.
[SPEAKER_03]: And he's coming along with his facial expressions as well.
[SPEAKER_03]: He started to show a bit of anger, a bit of intensity.
[SPEAKER_03]: And just it seems to me that he's starting to feel the moments rather than thinking about what the next spot is in the match.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I've likened it to, you know, when you're learning how to drive, like you're focusing on all those individual elements, but now I feel like he's starting to put things together and being able to sort of vibe with one particular part of a match rather than sort of worrying about the big picture stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's just those small improvements.
[SPEAKER_03]: A little things like that, a bit where Gabe's rubbing his hair and then he transitioned that into a judo through he's starting to develop those little creative spots now that the basics are downpour.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like the emoting, the firing, I'm still a little bit in all
[SPEAKER_03]: a bit like, ah, I'm gonna do that with my hands and roar at the crowd, but that'll come, you know, the cardio as well.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, that might be something to keep an eye on too.
[SPEAKER_03]: There was a bit in the middle of the match where Gabe
[SPEAKER_03]: got on top of the turn buckle and started shouting at Tana Hashian.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was wondering if that was just a bit of mid match stalling so Aaron Wolf could catch his breath.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if I'd asked lunch and that, but it seemed a bit strange to me that something just took the attention off of the match and moved on to Tana Hashie.
[SPEAKER_03]: But
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to agree with everything you said, but I don't, I haven't heard the board just said only because it's the internet, literally just tumble, I didn't make out a word, and I was just letting you go, hoping that the recording could come up.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, the beauty of all, all that's no audacity, Zencaster, is it will capture it absolutely beautifully crisply on my end, so in the finished uploaded version, no one will know any difference, like it's in here.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm absolutely uninterrupted, beautiful crystal clear thoughts, but I'm aware that there is obviously some sort of problem with my collection.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know what it is, I'm not in a very close to the root or I don't seem to be having any other incident issues.
[SPEAKER_03]: I will see this that you sound perfect now.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I think somebody's sabotaging your Wi-Fi when you have a valid and hot take.
[SPEAKER_02]: It can sense your hot takeness, and it's destroying the Wi-Fi, but so far so good.
[SPEAKER_02]: But give me the quick, too long, didn't listen version of what you just said for me.
[SPEAKER_03]: Sure, I go with it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, big picture, I'm in agreement with you.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think if you compare,
[SPEAKER_03]: G1, knight 1, iron wolf with G1, knight 18, iron wolf, the difference is going to be vast.
[SPEAKER_03]: But this much stuff, like I'm not even grading it on the wolf curve.
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought this was a really bloody good match.
[SPEAKER_03]: In its own rather, the pace, the ambition, the creativity, the intensity of it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I've got no doubts left about iron wolf.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not worried at all.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's going to be sick.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I only
[SPEAKER_03]: night five, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: This is, and his second match is second G1 match and I'm like, okay, he gets it.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's, he's good already.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's already good.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, maybe it was the fact that he had a bit more time to plan this one, normal count of not having the match for shoulder and night three, but I feel like I don't even need to bother with the micro analysis and the caveats about him being a rookie.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's just good now.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's just good at professional wrestling already.
[SPEAKER_03]: So there's that very, very happy and excited by our morph like you, but I do want to
[SPEAKER_03]: throw some flowers at Gabe Kid because I know I might be in the minority here, but I think he really has been fantastic so far in this G1.
[SPEAKER_03]: I know the sort of shenanigans might be a bit heavy-handed for some people and that's valid, but I think in terms of the the key elements of it, the actual bell to bell stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just appreciating what he's doing for the next generation.
[SPEAKER_03]: He made Aaron Wolf look great here.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think he's a very unselfish worker.
[SPEAKER_03]: And he clearly loves New Japan, despite what he says, because you're out of effort he's going out and the work he's putting in to help get those next guys over is tremendous.
[SPEAKER_03]: And almost to the point in which I'm wondering, does he have like a final redemption run in here before I lose the company?
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, but I really think the work that he's doing
[SPEAKER_03]: dickhead heel, gatekeeper roll to help work with those new guys is really, really valuable.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's 1,000 percent.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm glad that you went there with Gabe Kitt because that was a point that I definitely was hoping would be a hammer in home.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's been over and above.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like he's in the over and above category for me.
[SPEAKER_02]: Has he been this, you know,
[SPEAKER_02]: fucking ring general.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, but he's he led that match and he controlled the pace and he was very giving incredibly giving and he knew his assignment.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I got nothing but but praise for him.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now again, and my look, I would love a heal in
[SPEAKER_02]: But much of it, the party language in the middle fingers.
[SPEAKER_03]: So we need to know that.
[SPEAKER_02]: But it's like, it's like the same thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I'm going to get healed.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to get healed.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's fucked this, fucked that middle finger this, middle finger that.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's like, all right, we get it.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I just kind of wanted.
[SPEAKER_02]: I would want
[SPEAKER_02]: just something a little bit more well-rounded.
[SPEAKER_02]: Again, am I nitpicky, am I, uh, you know, finding fault where maybe they're who cares?
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure a lot of people just rug their fucking shoulders to it.
[SPEAKER_02]: To me, it's just like, all right, it's a little heavy handed and it's like, all right, can we do something else to be a heal as opposed to just everything is fuck you and shut them fuck up, oily, oily.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think that's fairly, I mean, there's not a huge amount of nuance to it, but there is the argument to be made that he's playing it loud for the back rows because he wants it to be extremely visible and understandable for a Japanese crowd.
[SPEAKER_03]: So he just wants every single person in that arena, regardless of language baritid, no.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm the dickheads and everyone should boon me and love the guy that's beating me up.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I get it like it's a bit much for perhaps a western fan, but again just consider how that might come across which happenies fan where that might be a lot more effective and enjoyable for them.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know about my doubt about your development.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, okay, then the next match was, uh, Henry defeating Oscar 11 minutes 46 seconds with a Henry bomb.
[SPEAKER_03]: I do this as another good Oscar monster match.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was not an outchie my leg match, which again, I appreciate he's at two of those in a row.
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought his match with Gabe was really good.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think Gabe helped him look like a monster and, and, and
[SPEAKER_03]: they started off really good.
[SPEAKER_03]: There was great intense in the opening.
[SPEAKER_03]: It changed.
[SPEAKER_03]: They were like charging at each other like a pair of bulls.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I felt it lost a lot of that steam in the middle of the match.
[SPEAKER_03]: I felt it lost the crowd and then we'd be a bit too slow.
[SPEAKER_03]: I, the pacing felt a bit off to me.
[SPEAKER_03]: I wanted this match to be Bang Bang Bang Go Go Go.
[SPEAKER_03]: They did get back on track towards the end when they got back in the ring and I enjoyed
[SPEAKER_03]: just that little story of who's monster power is going to be strong.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like they're really laid into each other like the blood on Henry's chest.
[SPEAKER_03]: They were hammering tongs.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oscar, he's got a hell of a big boot on him.
[SPEAKER_03]: There was a great spot where he just absolutely flattened Henry with a big boot to the point in which I was like, oh shit, did he actually catch him for real there?
[SPEAKER_03]: He's got a big boot from Jake Lee's as much as I think.
[SPEAKER_03]: It pains me to say it, but yeah, no, the kind of test of strengths, but so you reminded me, and one of my favorite films, The Running Man with Arnold Schwarzenegger way, he's fighting the guy with a chainsaw buzzsaw, and they're sort of grappling over the chainsaw, like the muscles bulging like one of them is trying to push the chainsaw up to
[SPEAKER_03]: Bustle's trying to push it towards Benrich's neck and Benrich is trying to push it away and push it between his eyes and they're kind of reminded me of that, just like the intensity of these two big months is like, ah, just like trying to joky and just bust their muscles for just every little inch of
[SPEAKER_03]: get in Boston out of the submission maneuvers or wherever it was they were trying to do at the time.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I'm also enjoying Henri his hammerhead that kind of jumping head by he does is like the difference making because we all know his pro wrestling fans how powerful a pollination head by is just lasted Oscar's head off and led to the finish.
[SPEAKER_03]: I quite like that little finishing sequence he's got there.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's a solid, solid hand, and I mean that in the biggest compliment I can give.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he's in there taking care of a younger guy who, again, not necessarily that he needs to be hand-held through a match, but this had Hinarry fingerprints all over it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, he's blossoming right in front of our eyes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Again, my biggest gripe with Oscar is honestly his facial expressions.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sometimes they kind of feel hokey and goofy.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's might just be a me thing, but, and again, I've said this on my daily Patreon, G1 coverage.
[SPEAKER_02]: He is like, like, I hate, I remember back when Kittle J. R. Kittle Jim Ross was doing some commentary work for New Japan and he would always lean on all what an athlete and the athleticism and, you know, he not really knowing who these people were or what, you know, he was just going into the fucking shit blind, not doing a really his homework.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, you know, that was his, that was his crutch, the athleticism and all that stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, we got a little visitor.
[SPEAKER_02]: We got a visitor coming in.
[SPEAKER_01]: What's up, big fan?
[SPEAKER_01]: What's happening, buddy?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like he, but he is for a guy, his size.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I don't see like, like, you know how this company was just trying and shoving down our throw to Hiccolayo of being that guy.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I look at Oscar and I just see just like leaps and fucking bounds, he is beyond what, like,
[SPEAKER_02]: you know, every iteration of G-O-D and F-I-A, and Cody Hall, I remember Cody Hall, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like we've been through it.
[SPEAKER_02]: We've been through it a million times and we've been sold bills of goods that never pant quite panted out.
[SPEAKER_02]: But with him, I absolutely say it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, he still has plenty of polishing to go, but I love what I see so far.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and I think I'm all right, it was was a really good teacher.
[SPEAKER_02]: Was this match the greatest match?
[SPEAKER_02]: No, probably wasn't.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was probably I put it in my lower tier good.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, but again, like it's the promise of it's the idea of Oscar being, you know, what he could be and what might happen with him.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, I'm done.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm trying to map.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm trying to wrangle a cat and give my nails.
[SPEAKER_03]: I heard I had little happy cat chirping noises in the background and it made me smile.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, he's a blessing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you got to get a third mic then.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, very good.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm done there.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, and then we had Drillamolone to fit in gear at WMR 70 minutes 48 seconds by Drillaciller.
[SPEAKER_03]: This one was very interesting stylistically because obviously Drillamolone has his particular style of wrestling, where it's sort of very big muscle man hard hitting a kind of strong style wrestling, if you like.
[SPEAKER_03]: Drill a key, I felt he wrestled you, your style of match and tried to match him whole for hold and they were kind of replicating each other's moves there and he was trying to show that he could hang with him on a technical level rather than just being a power wrestler guide and showed a lot of range and a lot of versatility that we've not seen from him, not at this point I feel.
[SPEAKER_03]: And
[SPEAKER_03]: This is just unbelievable.
[SPEAKER_03]: The amount of background noise here, again, no respect.
[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like you have got this vision.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know what it is, David?
[SPEAKER_03]: I bought an ice maker.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's what's making them worse.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's very, very hot, and it's been an absolute blessing.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm so glad I got one, but there's that gun on.
[SPEAKER_03]: Malie's blowing a nose down there, despite my begging her to shut the fuck up.
[SPEAKER_03]: She's got an ice drink as well, so she's shaking that around.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, you know.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know why bother, I might as well just pull the plug.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's all.
[SPEAKER_03]: Anyway, what was I talking about?
[SPEAKER_03]: So, yeah, so, whoever he's got his vision for what?
[SPEAKER_03]: Strong style should be, like he's redefining it for a new generation, and it's the kind of this kind of throwback, almost Ricky Steamboat style resting.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it feels like drill at the way that drill it engaged with that, that was him kind of endorsing
[SPEAKER_03]: wrestling in New Japan should be by matching him for that and coming to his level on that.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it was just, yeah, very interesting seeing him change his style up like that.
[SPEAKER_03]: And the effect of that, I don't know if it was because of that, or just the character dynamics, or how the fans feel about the individual wrestlers that.
[SPEAKER_03]: The crowd were really behind drill-a-here, not just this match, like it's been like this for a while.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like you can really hear the chance for him.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_03]: And he was getting significantly more chance than you, which I found really quite curious that you would think you your ticks all the boxes to be an absolute beloved.
[SPEAKER_03]: babyface for the domestic fans.
[SPEAKER_03]: But there's something that's not quite connecting with them, which is very strange to me because, you know, he's a homegrown guy, he's got the good lurks, he wrestles nicely, he's got all the babyface aesthetics, whereas Driller is a guy, you know, all of his mates have left the company and gone to,
[SPEAKER_03]: a WWE or whatever, and by all accounts, like he should be kind of wrestler that is getting food, but the fans see to absolutely adore this guy now.
[SPEAKER_03]: And when it came down to these two people being in the ring together, it seemed like the fans overwhelmingly siding with Driller rather than you, which I just found quite unusual and also sort of looking at the standings here.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, he's one all his matches.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, no, he's not, has he won all his matches?
[SPEAKER_03]: How many matches has he had?
[SPEAKER_03]: Three, is he a key beat game?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: You won here?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think two, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Cause he didn't have the first night.
[SPEAKER_02]: But he went back to back, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, that's going to annoy me, you know, I'm, well, my point was, what was my point?
[SPEAKER_03]: I was wondering if he was getting a bit of a run, like, is he just getting the kind of standard shelter next Benjamin?
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, he lost a hinarry, okay, all right, forget it, that invalidates my point then, but yeah, I was just wondering what you felt about that, like why has Driller captured the hearts of the fans, but you, you hasn't got that yet?
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like there's a certain
[SPEAKER_02]: fighter mentality and drill the people are connecting with.
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like there's I'm not going to say underdog but like he is going to give a thousand percent and I think that radiates through the screen and in the ring.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think he's to me he's one of the most improved wrestlers like this G1 is done
[SPEAKER_02]: I think he's I think he has been outstanding and so you have I'm glad you mentioned his style because to me it is so absolutely refreshing like he's not in there to plunder he's not in there to go walk-in-brow and throw people into chairs and move furniture and he's
[SPEAKER_02]: And he's there to work an arm and work a leg and he's there for a big dropkick and then we're building and building and building and building.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love absolutely fucking love what I've seen from you, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I really have.
[SPEAKER_02]: He is a throwback, like he, let me ask you this.
[SPEAKER_02]: So you think that the crowd was pro-drilla, and maybe maybe, you know, we'll do the Red Shoes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Is it this guy, or you remember this guy?
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like it was pretty split.
[SPEAKER_02]: There were times where drilling kind of got a little bit more love, but I think that was just more of, hey, come on, fight back, fight back, fight back, kind of thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: What did you think about the U. U.
[SPEAKER_02]: Love Fest on night?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, it's three.
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you think that was contrived?
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you think that was genuine?
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you think there's something there?
[SPEAKER_03]: I think he needs more of that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, more opportunity to do that because he just feels a little bit awkward doing that.
[SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't come as naturally to him.
[SPEAKER_03]: I wonder if he's just that kind of person, like that's his personality where he's just so sort of fixated on the wrestling aspect of it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, that the whole thing about connecting with the crowds and that kind of easy way that in a someone like a tantahashi would have of being able to interact with the crowds and engage with them and and get their adoration just doesn't come quite as naturally to you as as it does with other people.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not sure.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I hear you.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, and he has the hardest job in pro wrestling.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like it is, I think it is much easier to be the guy, to be the heel, you know, to, to, you know, walking bra, or, you know, maybe do the, like he's working ultimate baby face.
[SPEAKER_02]: Which again, is very easy for fans to be like,
[SPEAKER_02]: Nah, not yet.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we saw it with Shota, where they just fucking turn and shit on that idea.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's a hard thing to do.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's incredibly hard to get 1,400 people to go on the ride with you.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's a lot easier to be the guy walking into the crowd, giving middle fingers and saying fuck you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Again, in the ring, you know, it's equally as hard.
[SPEAKER_02]: I would say maybe even harder being the baby face and trying to elicit that, um,
[SPEAKER_02]: feeling of emotion and getting pounded on and making the big baby face come back and all the stuff that goes into it, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: And the post match and all that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like it's a very difficult thing to do.
[SPEAKER_02]: Probably the hardest thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: And again, I feel like he's it.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's he's he is that guy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Will it become a little bit smoother?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think in ring he's refreshing.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's a he's a he's a
[SPEAKER_02]: in a world where it's very easy to go and I'm not knocking him here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's be very clear, I'm not knocking it because I think what he's doing is working, but I think it's easier to be you to ice than it is to be you, you, remember.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's for sure.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and he's not quite figured out who he is, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's not really got the gimmick or all the personality down.
[SPEAKER_03]: And he's not the only one.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, that seems to be a bit...
[SPEAKER_03]: Can you stop doing that, please?
[SPEAKER_03]: We're stoppers.
[SPEAKER_03]: Manly one!
[SPEAKER_03]: Can you stop doing that to the ice, please?
[SPEAKER_03]: It's very noisy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Christ, we're doing a worldwide podcast here.
[SPEAKER_03]: very good.
[SPEAKER_03]: My point was that he's not the only person who's struggling to figure out his gimmick, where someone like Utah is just, it seems to have appeared fully formed at the first attempt, totally realized and everyone gets it and everyone's on board with it, where is
[SPEAKER_03]: The grip or the rough neck or heat storm, it's more nebulous and harder to actually Just fucking I used to do that thing right at the window.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just fucking smash it right in front of her.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just peep like it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, you want to make it just smash it right in front of her.
[SPEAKER_02]: be like, you know what?
[SPEAKER_02]: Who's the person listening right now?
[SPEAKER_02]: Or maybe they left, but who is the person, you know?
[SPEAKER_02]: Mikey, Mikey, Mikey, Mikey gives us money.
[SPEAKER_02]: Be like, Mikey, Mikey paid for this and I'm smashing it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Breaking it in a million pieces.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just going to just climb up on the mezzanine and do a high-fly flow that's able right through a MacBook.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, match match.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I agree with you a thousand percent and I will also say that you really hasn't had that
[SPEAKER_02]: struggle yet.
[SPEAKER_02]: That in storyline wise, like that, you know, we're still young.
[SPEAKER_02]: He still has a whole, you know, oh, I'm down and out and like New Japan likes to do and we're going to fight back to rise to the top and capture some gold and all that stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I think just again, there's plenty of time for that, but I love what I see right now.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, Mike has made the points where Driller feels more authentic.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, Driller is authentic, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, he's no two years and that comes across to the crowd.
[SPEAKER_03]: And perhaps it is that authenticity more than anything that the domestic fans connect to primarily like that.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's like the instant connection.
[SPEAKER_03]: If they can feel that the person going out there knows who they are.
[SPEAKER_03]: does that with conviction and belief?
[SPEAKER_03]: Then they will believe in it too.
[SPEAKER_03]: So that was an interesting to track the going forward.
[SPEAKER_03]: So the main event here was, column human defeat exact Sabaduna, 20 minutes, 11 seconds via schoolboy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Really interesting match.
[SPEAKER_02]: I actually really liked the fact that they gave Calm the win in the manner in which they did because it felt like Zach was kind of like the teacher and and Calm was the student for a little bit of this match I hate throwing around the term disappointed because they really wasn't I thought the match was very good I thought they had more in the tuning dude
[SPEAKER_02]: really did.
[SPEAKER_02]: I really thought this was going to be something where my pants are going to be down and the pants weren't even unblocked.
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought, wow, I thought this was good on a higher end of good.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think they have absolutely another gear that I don't think they hit.
[SPEAKER_03]: I
[SPEAKER_03]: Again, I don't know if this is just my knackered attention span, whereas I feel like I could say about pretty much every New Japan matter or particularly the main events that it took a while to get going.
[SPEAKER_03]: It is very, very rare that I have anything interesting or any effusive praise for the first.
[SPEAKER_03]: 10 minutes of a new Japan pro wrestling main event and I don't know if that's just a stylistic thing or my attention span or the quality of the match or whatever but I will say I Really loved the back end of this.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was like the last 10 minutes I thought were very very good indeed.
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought it was a really wonderful stylistic contrast and
[SPEAKER_03]: In a character sense, I found it very interesting as well because Newman is obviously present it as a heel with his mannerisms and his attitude and his language and all that, but throughout the match, he really took the fight to Zack, where with his injured shoulder,
[SPEAKER_03]: if we buy into that.
[SPEAKER_03]: He was on the verge of not being able to make the tournament or whatever, but yeah, he took it to Zack where other heels would have cheated or run away and slid out of the ring and use weapons or whatever, but Calam, he's just grittest teeth and showed a level of fighting spirit that
[SPEAKER_03]: half the baby faces on this ruster cart manager and I think it speaks to one of the things that I really love about in New Japan which is that freedom to explore the space between face and heel like it's not a black or white thing I've wrestled doesn't necessarily have to be holy one or the other and the shades of gray that kind of moral complexity that
[SPEAKER_03]: to me makes for the the most interesting characters in fiction, not just pro wrestling, so I felt like it was a staggeringly like baby face coded performance from new when he didn't back off and he just told Zack to bring it to him, you know, the bit of the memories tear in the tape of his shoulder and
[SPEAKER_03]: boring in agony as that just went to town and it's like, that doesn't give a fuck.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's, you know, not an honourable, necessarily a guy who's not going to take it easy on him.
[SPEAKER_03]: If he sees that weak point, he's going to go after it like a fucking rottweiler with a bone, but again, they're in lies, the classic trope of so many vintage sacrifices where he gets baited into a striking match by someone who's a better strike than him.
[SPEAKER_03]: Someone who can hit harder than him and his his hubris is used against him.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I just, I just
[SPEAKER_03]: love the finish.
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought it was absolutely brilliant and I'm really well layered as we got Zach become a more and more cocky and ruthless and he's kicking lumps out of Newman's injured shoulder and Newman's launching his big count of strikes and a lot of that a lot of his moves that he's having to do at one hand did because of his injured shoulder and then Zach figured, okay, right, I've weakened his shoulder enough.
[SPEAKER_03]: He goes through his bread and butter with his pinning combinations and his
[SPEAKER_03]: all his range of clutches that he's got and Kalam in a somehow managing to escape those by the skin of his teeth and at that point it felt to me that Kalam had completely won the crowd over and they were like right or die with him at that point like they were very invested in it so Zach forced to go back to the striking because the the pinning combinations haven't worked he goes back to Kalam's children and it led to what if it was a really wonderfully executed finish where
[SPEAKER_03]: To me, it was just a really lovely convergence of the match story and Zack's cockiness and the complexity of the Kalimcharacter as he's shown not only the guts to survive that long, but the ingenuity to bait Zack in for the penalty kick, the technical execution and the precision timing to lock in that schoolboy and that little bit of cunning at the end to bend the rules and grab the tights when the ride is not looking
[SPEAKER_03]: It wasn't beating you over the head with it, it wasn't over cheating like you weren't expect with like a house or torture wrestling, it was just that little bit the end fist full of tights and that was it, like he knows that's the only way he was going to be able to beat Zach because he's hanging on by the skin of his teeth waiting for that moment for everything to learn up perfectly for that smashing grab victory, which also just a delicious little fuck you to the fans who were just starting to believe in the goodness of
[SPEAKER_03]: And to me, just that was in a nutshell, some of my favorite stuff about New Japan condensed into a five minute sequence of wrestling where their characters and their creative freedom and the diversity and the quality of wrestling, all those different styles and abilities.
[SPEAKER_03]: combine perfectly to produce something that is just much, much more than the, to some of its parts.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I don't know, it just, it tickles a part of my brain that gets me fiss pumping in my living room.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I also, I think, serves as proof of concept in, like a wider point I've got about New Japan in 2026 where you've got
[SPEAKER_03]: these incredibly talented and hungry young wrestlers like Calam Newman and Suji, Yuya, Oyua, Shota, Oleg, gay kids, Aaron Wolf, Yuto, Oscar, and then you've got the gatekeepers, like your former world champions, guys, like Zach have changed and got them.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's an idea where it feels like any combination, either within those groups or between those groups could produce fireworks if things line up right and, you know, we don't yet have the clear stars and headlines yet, but if you can step up and deliver, like I feel calamist doing, then that crown is there for the taking.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what, I loved your analysis of this because I was a little bit sour on the finish.
[SPEAKER_02]: But, you know, you laying that out the way that you did.
[SPEAKER_02]: Got to admit, it went a little bit over me, but you kind of reeled it in and I'm like, yeah, you know what, that's a good point.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you know what that did, that was it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it was calmed, like surviving for a decent stretch of this tail end of the match.
[SPEAKER_02]: and him just being one like cunning, like Zack is technically proficient and brutal and sadistic and you know all the things that we love about Zack and a proper dickhead to boot.
[SPEAKER_02]: but is he cunning?
[SPEAKER_02]: Is he cunning like, like, calms?
[SPEAKER_02]: And it was just a, yeah, it was the, you know, the spider luring him in and then
[SPEAKER_02]: wrapping them up.
[SPEAKER_02]: And again, the little tug of the tights helped solidify the fact that yep, I am maybe a little bit more of a weasel.
[SPEAKER_02]: And in the end, you could take your fucking, you know, you're blocking me up in a pretzel because I'll survive that even with a shattered arm just for my opening and my spot to be able to pull one over.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, that is a subtlety that maybe, you know, before a 9 a.m. meeting, I probably missed.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, good job by you, well done.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I do sometimes have a tendency to probably overanalyze specific sequences in matches and imbue them with a narrative significance and intentionality that might not have been intended by the wrestlers.
[SPEAKER_03]: But again, that was just something there.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, sometimes I'll see a finish and I just vibe with it and I just watch it a few times and I start to kind of notice things.
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's part of the fun of being a New Japan fan, like sometimes we pick up breadcrumbs or we fill in those
[SPEAKER_03]: those blanks fill in the gaps and kind of put our own little narrative strings into sort of tie things together that yeah the wrestlers might not necessarily thought of.
[SPEAKER_03]: So again, I don't I don't speak to Zack's overdue in your calendar.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'd love to, lad's if you're listening, get in touch.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let me know on my own to something there.
[SPEAKER_03]: But that just that was a very cool finish to the match and yeah, it was good stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: But also I love the fact that
[SPEAKER_02]: And this kind of harkens back to like our little meet-up thing and you know just talking for wrestling and you know me, you know, my battery gets drained very fucking easy and yeah, I'm always looking for the fucking exit, my Irish eggs it out.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's that's the enjoyable thing when you hear because sometimes I might be in a vacuum and I might miss things that I think that aren't as significant that maybe other people do and to hear those opinions and those thoughts and being like, oh, yeah, there's there's there's something there and yeah, I see it okay, you know, sometimes I need to be shifted in a thought process.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, well done.
[SPEAKER_02]: Excellent job.
[SPEAKER_02]: Listen, I'll miss that one.
[SPEAKER_02]: I fucking swung and missed.
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, we did bring that around because yeah, you're right.
[SPEAKER_02]: That turned into a finish that maybe I felt was a little bit flat.
[SPEAKER_02]: Actually, it was pretty significant in the way they did it.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, well done.
[SPEAKER_03]: And also, Mikey makes the point that Kalamaz lost one single match since the end of last year's G1.
[SPEAKER_03]: So he's on a hell of a tear right now.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, Mikey, listen, were you trying to do?
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, you want the second mic?
[SPEAKER_02]: You trying to take my chair?
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm trying to encourage people to start.
[SPEAKER_02]: So to get on the YouTube, because this is the Mikey show now.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, because you got any questions for us before we wrap it up.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Mikey's been good.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mikey, yeah, chimneys are getting on his level, everyone else.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, let's go.
[SPEAKER_02]: Come on, Mikey.
[SPEAKER_02]: Fire one at me.
[SPEAKER_02]: Demon.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm trying to get my key to what did I do to you some some Resident Evil audio with me.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm thinking of doing a special episode on well, specifically the Resident Evil 2 remake, but I would quite like to do just a Resident Evil retrospective.
[SPEAKER_03]: I want to do just a series of podcasts really, all of the games.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
[SPEAKER_02]: What are you going to call the show?
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, God, that's a good question.
[SPEAKER_03]: I want you to get a market to shit.
[SPEAKER_03]: Residents, what's an Abey?
[SPEAKER_02]: It's actually, you know, I was going to say that stinks, but it's actually fucking charming.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Residents, what an Abey, I can't wait for an episode one for her.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it could be this is Resident Evil.
[SPEAKER_02]: Everything is Resident Evil.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a better way.
[SPEAKER_02]: Resident Evil, and you're going to shake the fucking camera.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can do it.
[SPEAKER_02]: That was, that's what I did love that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought that was really a silly, yet.
[SPEAKER_02]: effective thing that they did for him for his erring interest.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Look where I got him.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's got his dream job now.
[SPEAKER_03]: Is he did his day debut yet?
[SPEAKER_03]: Is he did he debut yet?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he's in the next day.
[SPEAKER_02]: I haven't watched anything of him.
[SPEAKER_02]: Has anybody have you seen anything?
[SPEAKER_02]: What's what's been the general consensus?
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: I just, I think I follow him on Instagram, so I see a little bit some pieces and clips.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think he's had a feud with Tony DeAngelo.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, I think he might have challenged unsuccessfully for the NXT title, which then what to make of that.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was, I was hoping he was going to win it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was hoping to win the big one.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was cheering for him.
[SPEAKER_03]: But, yeah, wasn't to be this time Naraku unlucky.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but his name, what's his name there?
[SPEAKER_03]: Naraku.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it means, I don't know, hell or something like that.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: How old did you go through?
[SPEAKER_03]: What does Nara come in?
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to look it up because... Just think he sounds.
[SPEAKER_02]: I would say.
[SPEAKER_02]: Saw y'all the mayonnaise.
[SPEAKER_03]: So in Japanese Buddhism and mythology, it's a term used as described.
[SPEAKER_03]: The Buddhist underworld or hell.
[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, I was right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, because these are kind of an inspiration.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, very good.
[SPEAKER_02]: Ah, how are we doing?
[SPEAKER_02]: We good?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we good.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, later.
[SPEAKER_02]: We good.