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[SPEAKER_00]: buyers or sellers.
[SPEAKER_00]: That is the question coming out of another game here with the trade deadline approaching in the next 10 days.
[SPEAKER_00]: John, share for with you on the wrap-up show, make your way in an impressive win tonight for the Padres in Atlanta for home runs, Machado a pair, a taste the longest home run hit by a major league of this year, 474 feet, Maryland hot his third home run in his last three games and pitching good enough,
[SPEAKER_00]: podgers getting it to some dicey situations there in the sixth and seventh innings before Mason Miller comes on in a non-save spot just to really get work as the podgers again win it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Here tonight 8 to 3 and that will allow us to continue the conversation around who is this team in which direction are they heading?
[SPEAKER_00]: like the old Yogi bear line.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you come to a fork in the road, take it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Eventually, we're heading to some type of fork in the road.
[SPEAKER_00]: Some decision will be made on this version of the Poggers.
[SPEAKER_00]: What decision will AJ Preller, his lieutenant's ownership, whoever is in charge of the club right now, ultimately make in the days ahead.
[SPEAKER_00]: There is a ton to react to and this is honestly great time of year.
[SPEAKER_00]: To be a baseball fan, even if it's been a tough year to be a Padre's fan to this point still the Padre's remain under 500.
[SPEAKER_00]: They have pulled to within two games of a playoff spot as the National League Wildcard race continues to come back towards San Diego.
[SPEAKER_00]: No one is taking control of that final Wildcard spot right now.
[SPEAKER_00]: That includes the Padres in terms of not taking control and there's a slew of teams that are paddling for that final spot But the Padres as we sit here tonight are just two games back of that final wildcard spot in the National League So you guys know the deal we'll have you cover throughout the trade deadline and beyond the in season out of season If you haven't subscribed to the channel, please take a moment and do that right now Please smash the like button for me You can follow me on X at John Chafe for thank you for the two-per-chat seriously Especially when I do the solo shows if you want me to
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[SPEAKER_00]: I will get to your super chat on screen here tonight.
[SPEAKER_00]: We've got as much time as we need.
[SPEAKER_00]: to get to all the supers and react to a Padre's win in Atlanta.
[SPEAKER_00]: I do know this if the Padre's just played the Braves.
[SPEAKER_00]: They would be a playoff team.
[SPEAKER_00]: They've played Atlanta incredibly well over the last few years.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that includes 20, 26, because the Padre's now four in one against the Braves.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they beat up a good starting pitcher here tonight as well.
[SPEAKER_00]: And offensively, the Padre's have had a couple of decent games, truthfully, since the All Star Break that first didn't.
[SPEAKER_00]: third game in Kansas City and then here tonight as well with the eight runs and the four home runs and the big hit total as well.
[SPEAKER_00]: 4 San Diego.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'll start by reacting and then we can go wherever we want to go.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, certainly this conversation is heading towards a trade deadline discussion.
[SPEAKER_00]: Jeff passed and had more on Macy Miller and even Zander Bogart here today.
[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, the lineup was switched up significantly Zander Bany.
[SPEAKER_00]: Eighth for the first time since 2015, I would argue.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think you guys remember, if you're, if you're loyal to the channel or my radio show,
[SPEAKER_00]: 15 minutes on Sharefrontsley were like two weeks ago, literally like just talking to myself and I think Alan was off that day and saying, why are we going through the motions with the exact same thing each and every day, move zander down in the lineup?
[SPEAKER_00]: And that was two weeks ago and they finally did it here today.
[SPEAKER_00]: It took a hundred games, but they finally did it and it obviously works for a night for the club and we'll see what they do moving forward, but it's like
[SPEAKER_00]: What's the definition of insanity doing the same thing over and over and over again and expecting different results?
[SPEAKER_00]: I think they're sensing that it's an hour and ever type part of the year in general and they need to play better immediately in order to have a shot in the second half of the year and be potentially be a buyer or an aggressive buyer at the deadline.
[SPEAKER_00]: But why have all those conversations obviously over the course of the next hour?
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll be honest with you.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think the organization has any idea what they're going to do, but I do know this, and I firmly believe this.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know there's going to be a lot of people telling me that this team still should sell, and that is a completely reasonable opinion.
[SPEAKER_00]: It would probably be my opinion, you know, with a gun to my head, so to speak.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like if I had to make a decision on this club today, I think you're leaning more sell than by, however, with all of that being said,
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't see H.A.
[SPEAKER_00]: Preller if left to his own fruition.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't see H.A.
[SPEAKER_00]: Preller walking away from a season with 60 games to play, trailing a play off spot by two games.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now I get it.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's five other teams in there, and you're going to have to upload all of them, but nobody
[SPEAKER_00]: looks like they truly want it right now.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you can certainly argue the same thing about the Padres.
[SPEAKER_00]: And we are going to change our tune every single time they win or they lose.
[SPEAKER_00]: But if someone had taken command, if my enemy hadn't lost a straight and was six and two in the last eight and you're looking at
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, a seven game deficit for that third wild card.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's a different conversation, obviously, because then you're getting into a situation where it's becoming increasingly and increasingly unlikely for you to even have a chance to track down that final wild card spot.
[SPEAKER_00]: But that's not the situation that's playing out right now.
[SPEAKER_00]: Again, mathematically, you don't have the best chance to the world, obviously.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you have five or six teams flying for one spot, only one of them's gonna get it, you know, Jim facts.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so just there, I mean, one in five, one in six are in great odds.
[SPEAKER_00]: And not only is it one in five or one in six, you're still trailing these teams.
[SPEAKER_00]: So you have to outplay them, but you don't have to outplay them by a lot.
[SPEAKER_00]: When you look at what's playing out right now around the National League.
[SPEAKER_00]: And a week ago, I would have told you that it could be tough sledding going to Miami this week.
[SPEAKER_00]: And but now the marlins have lost age straight.
[SPEAKER_00]: And maybe that's a keen opportunity or really good opportunity to win a series.
[SPEAKER_00]: If not do more than that, and we're getting ahead of ourselves.
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll see how they play the next couple of days in Atlanta.
[SPEAKER_00]: They do have Michael King on the mound and game three of this series.
[SPEAKER_00]: But the concerns are meant to concerns.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, obviously the starting pitching issues are significant.
[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously the lineup has not shown consistency, although it has been better.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I don't know the exact date in time if it's a mod Taylor, you know, if it's June 1st, if it's June 15th, I get that the record doesn't support the fact that their offense has been better, but there is no question that since the weather is warm since we've gotten into summer months, there's like a point of delineation.
[SPEAKER_00]: Is it 30 games ago, is it 45, is it 15, whatever it is?
[SPEAKER_00]: There's been a stretch here, but the offense has had an uptick, they're not the best
[SPEAKER_00]: They've been vastly improved.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think some of it, if not most of it, coincides with Man in Machado.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Machado's like, what a near 1000 OPS guy over his last 30 games.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's hitting for incredible power.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he could realistically hit 35 plus home runs.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's hit 22 and he has been much better forget about the bad damage for a second.
[SPEAKER_00]: Honestly, who cares?
[SPEAKER_00]: If he's going to hit 37 home runs, if he's going to carry you in the second half of the season, who cares?
[SPEAKER_00]: Ultimately, what are you going to hit?
[SPEAKER_00]: Tatis.
[SPEAKER_00]: where have you been, but it's been nice to see you since the All-Star Break, three home runs in five games, the longest home run in baseball.
[SPEAKER_00]: Suggests you should be nowhere near eight home runs in the season and you should be closer to 30, but we are where we are and hopefully again he is someone that can have some more slog and power in the second half.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think
[SPEAKER_00]: What we've seen over the last five games, it's just that he is capable of doing that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Jackson, Merrill, three homers in his last three games, including one today when the podgers are tri- I mean, they briefly tri- out in this game was two one.
[SPEAKER_00]: Brave scored a couple of runs there off Bueller.
[SPEAKER_00]: Peeler got out of a first and third spot.
[SPEAKER_00]: And
[SPEAKER_00]: quickly thereafter, maybe in the fourth inning, Jackson Merle ties the score up and then later at the inning, they took a lead and then they didn't look back, obviously, although the brave sets them opportunities, they are against the Padre's bullpen.
[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't fully capitalize on her, really, they didn't even take advantage of in the sixth or seventh innings.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I think a lot of people would agree with my general assessment here, I can't listen, we're all going to, we're all going to ban each and every day.
[SPEAKER_00]: Flip, flop, go with the float, whatever it is.
[SPEAKER_00]: They win a couple of games, you're going to say, and maybe this, maybe this team is, is the team that we thought the Padre's were when they started 19 and 9.
[SPEAKER_00]: If they fall back to her three games under 500 and a team like St. Louis wins three straight and you fall to four games out of a wildcard spot, then everyone's going to change their tune again.
[SPEAKER_00]: Understandably, by the way, but this is what I know.
[SPEAKER_00]: Heading into the weekend before the all-star break when the podgers had lost game on to Toronto, and we're five and a half games out of the final wildcard, and things looked very bleak.
[SPEAKER_00]: From that moment on, it's not like the podgers have played lights out baseball.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're four and three, which is fine.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's nothing wrong with that.
[SPEAKER_00]: But they've gained three and a half games in the wildcard standings over those seven games.
[SPEAKER_00]: Since the Saturday before the all-star break,
[SPEAKER_00]: My point is this, no determinations have been made.
[SPEAKER_00]: Nor should they be.
[SPEAKER_00]: Just wait it out.
[SPEAKER_00]: Watch it play out in real time like the rest of us.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what Asia appellers doing.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's what Jose Feliciano's doing.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what John Siler is doing.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what Padres fans are doing.
[SPEAKER_00]: We all have strong opinions.
[SPEAKER_00]: I will offer them, GM will offer them.
[SPEAKER_00]: We see him on social media each and every day.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I respect all of them.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's kind of the definition of fandom.
[SPEAKER_00]: You should have it.
[SPEAKER_00]: You should react strongly one way or the other.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I would just say this.
[SPEAKER_00]: You can't say on this 21st of July.
[SPEAKER_00]: Is that what it is?
[SPEAKER_00]: You can't say all hope is lost just like you can't say that everything's fixed.
[SPEAKER_00]: You just can't.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a moving target is what it is.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's your play coupled with the play of the teams around you.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's your prospects coupled with the prospects and chances of the teams around you.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's your health.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's your performance in real time as it's playing out the play of Machado, Tatees, Merrill, France.
[SPEAKER_00]: What's the state of irritation?
[SPEAKER_00]: Not overly encouraging.
[SPEAKER_00]: How's your bullpen looking?
[SPEAKER_00]: Strong, by and large.
[SPEAKER_00]: How's your lineup?
[SPEAKER_00]: Not great, but improving.
[SPEAKER_00]: What's the situation look like in front of you and behind you?
[SPEAKER_00]: There's no one behind you that's threatening.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's everyone that's directly in front of you.
[SPEAKER_00]: The teens like Washington and Pittsburgh and Arizona and St. Louis forget about Miami.
[SPEAKER_00]: I can Miami can, they possibly recover from an A-game losing streak this late.
[SPEAKER_00]: Then again, Pogger has lost age straight was it earlier this month?
[SPEAKER_00]: that that was in streak wrapped up.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I guess you never say never.
[SPEAKER_00]: But none of these teams, none of these teams are striking fear in anyone, including San Diego.
[SPEAKER_00]: One of these teams, though, will be in the postseason in 2026.
[SPEAKER_00]: So why not the podgers?
[SPEAKER_00]: is how I see it right now.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I just, you know, we, everyone here has been following the Padres for forever.
[SPEAKER_00]: This isn't your first time watching the Padres in 2026.
[SPEAKER_00]: Your first night watching the Padres.
[SPEAKER_00]: You guys know the, the MO of AJ Perler and it's not changing right now.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's, it's not changing.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're not, we're not going to get 10 days from now and watch this team go five and five or six and four and see that they're a game and a half out of a playoff spot and they all
[SPEAKER_00]: Mason Miller's got to go and Adrian Morehol's got to go and Michael King's got to go and tie Francis to go.
[SPEAKER_00]: I did not happen.
[SPEAKER_00]: You may want it to happen.
[SPEAKER_00]: It may be prudent.
[SPEAKER_00]: It may be the right decision.
[SPEAKER_00]: You may believe they're not going to make the postseason.
[SPEAKER_00]: All of that is completely fair.
[SPEAKER_00]: But if we fast forward 10 games and the Pajra is our
[SPEAKER_00]: 56 and 56 or 55 and 54 or 56 and 55.
[SPEAKER_00]: You understand the point and they're one and a half games out of a playoff spot and they're selling 40,000 tickets every game including poncho night coming up against San Francisco or Colorado.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're not selling off all their parts.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're not.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, could you hedge and trade age or more home and add a starting pitcher?
[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_00]: is something like that possible, because you get an offer on more at home or France, and it's just the right move at the right time, and you can still make additions despite that type of subtraction, seemingly it's a possibility.
[SPEAKER_00]: Of course it is.
[SPEAKER_00]: There are teams that do that, they're buying and selling.
[SPEAKER_00]: You can be more aggressive than not.
[SPEAKER_00]: You can, you know, if you fully believe in your team, like they were out of love six wins in their next seven games, well, maybe they're more aggressive.
[SPEAKER_00]: They go for in three over the next seven games.
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe they're quasi buyer or quasi aggressive.
[SPEAKER_00]: go three and four of your next seven games.
[SPEAKER_00]: You fall 200, but you're only two and a half games out.
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe you're a quasi buyer.
[SPEAKER_00]: Go one and six over your next seven games.
[SPEAKER_00]: Sell off all parts.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's how I see it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it is as simplistic as that.
[SPEAKER_00]: And we've been talking about this on the radio, and I'm sure we've been talking about on the wrap-up show as well.
[SPEAKER_00]: This idea that how can you put all the eggs in the basket of one seven game stretch, 10 game stretch, four game stretch?
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll tell you how, because it all matters.
[SPEAKER_00]: The only thing that matters are the results, so why would we discount them now?
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, it's not full's gold.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just factual.
[SPEAKER_00]: You go one and four, factual, the two are.
[SPEAKER_00]: You go four and one, and all of a sudden, your two games over 500, that all holds weight.
[SPEAKER_00]: at the end of the day.
[SPEAKER_00]: So like if you win four of your next five, I don't understand why that should be discounted, just like if you lose four of your next five, I don't understand why that would be discounted.
[SPEAKER_00]: It all matters, especially.
[SPEAKER_00]: as it pertains to the standings, it's an equation.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's 60 games left.
[SPEAKER_00]: Here's where we sit.
[SPEAKER_00]: Here's where the teams around us said, what's our risk tolerance?
[SPEAKER_00]: How aggressive are we going to be?
[SPEAKER_00]: What is the risk?
[SPEAKER_00]: What is the reward?
[SPEAKER_00]: It's as simple as that.
[SPEAKER_00]: And we'll make that decision on the first of August or the last day of July or the second day of August.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they will make a decision and they will go with it based on all the evidence and all the data that they have.
[SPEAKER_00]: Sorry, I think there's like a mosquito or something in here.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, so here we are on the wrap-up show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Two and three in the road trip, even in this four game series at the Atlanta right now, one game of peace and a chance to take
[SPEAKER_00]: advantage or take control of the series behind Michael King on Wednesday in Atlanta.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It says new ownership needs to get rid of Preller and Zander.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think it'll be the first order of business, I really don't.
[SPEAKER_00]: It would be my guess.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think there's a lot of reasons to suggest that it won't be when it comes to Preller.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is not a Zander conversation right now, but when it comes to Preller.
[SPEAKER_00]: Got the extension for whatever reason.
[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, that doesn't come from current ownership.
[SPEAKER_00]: And first order of business is going to be to come in and fire your just extended general manager.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that certainly wouldn't happen until the office is not, obviously, and it wouldn't happen until they were on the outside looking in, which we don't even know if that's going to play out or not.
[SPEAKER_00]: So is it possible?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, of course it's possible, but is it their first order of business?
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's see what kind of nibbles if any present themselves.
[SPEAKER_00]: Jeff Passett, writing today at ESPN.com, the podgers with love to entertain including Zander Bogart to the Mason Miller deal if they do, in fact, move Miller, but he didn't expect takers when it came to Bogart's contract, obviously.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he basically ruled it out as a possibility as I had speculated on yesterday.
[SPEAKER_00]: How?
[SPEAKER_00]: ludicrous it really is for a team to take on a hundred and fifty or two hundred million dollars of zander just the land mason Miller.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, so you're going to write a check for a hundred and fifty or two hundred million dollars from mason Miller.
[SPEAKER_00]: You'd make them the highest paid player basically in the history of baseball just to get his services because you'd need to acquire zander Bogart as well.
[SPEAKER_00]: So
[SPEAKER_00]: Zander things a whole different conversation that we've spent a ton of time on over the last month specifically, really over the last four years, but over the last month, I don't know if it's an easy answer.
[SPEAKER_00]: Is it trade a minute, 90% of the contract or, you know, trade them away and eat a less than portion of the contract, but not get a return?
[SPEAKER_00]: Is it eventually, you know, cut ties and just write the check from to go away?
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't see that happening.
[SPEAKER_00]: Is it more of an offseason conversation that a trade deadline conversation seemingly I think it is probably that but never say never I guess on Zander, but yeah, I mean, just the organization desire to get out from underneath his contract.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you better believe they do just like Padres fans are clamoring for as well.
[SPEAKER_00]: And again, it's not because.
[SPEAKER_00]: it's not personal.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just that he hasn't lived up anywhere near the expectations or the dollar failure of the contract, obliterated bomb tanky man.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm 40 home or T's comes back if he gets put back to short.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, man.
[SPEAKER_00]: I really don't, but I do like seeing
[SPEAKER_00]: the return of the power even go back to his first played appearance after the all star break when the right filter for the rose went up over the wall and like took back a home run ball from Tati.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I didn't see it as a great omen in real time, but he has homework three times since that played out.
[SPEAKER_00]: And obviously he's not hitting 30 or 40 home runs this year, but could he still hit 20 somehow?
[SPEAKER_00]: That would be an incredible accomplishment.
[SPEAKER_00]: Again, three in his last five games, 60 plus games to go.
[SPEAKER_00]: Kenny
[SPEAKER_00]: four, a half season of vintage version of Totties.
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe he was watching the wrap-up show last night when I said, there's no chance in hell, what I build a team or I'm for another Totties junior.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I still feel that way despite him hitting a ball, 400 and 74 feet, but maybe he was watching.
[SPEAKER_00]: I hope he was.
[SPEAKER_00]: I hope something has lit a fire underneath Totties.
[SPEAKER_00]: But he needs to consistently prove that he is capable of performing and leading a team.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he hasn't done that, unfortunately, in recent history.
[SPEAKER_00]: We've seen it in glimmers, in smaller sample sizes.
[SPEAKER_00]: He has shown it to us, even post-pedies.
[SPEAKER_00]: He has shown it to us for weeks, long stretches, maybe month, long, months, long, even stretches over the course of the last four years, but he's also had it.
[SPEAKER_00]: lengthy dry spells with power and performance, but now we sit in the ball hard and now we're taking the ball near.
[SPEAKER_00]: Which is something obviously wasn't doing at all in the first half of the year.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think it's very encouraging.
[SPEAKER_00]: I really do.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think his plays encouraging cautiously optimistic on Merrill.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm optimistic on Machado right now.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he's hitting for so much power.
[SPEAKER_00]: Dead.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's, um, it's all positives, and it's the first time this year.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think they got home runs from a child of tattoos in Maryland.
[SPEAKER_00]: The same game obviously, the tattoo is only hit eight home runs this year.
[SPEAKER_00]: So hopefully we see that a few times in the second half of the year as well.
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, let's see here, Blitterade upon following up, even if they're last wild card spot, they should sell.
[SPEAKER_00]: So even if they're in position as the last wild card spot, you're saying that they should sell.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, you may feel that way, and it might be the wise or prudent decision, like that might make sense, and you might be proven to be correct, but they're not going to, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Does anyone expect, honestly, put it in the chat?
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you expect the podress to sell if on the day of the deadline?
[SPEAKER_00]: They're sitting in a playoff position.
[SPEAKER_00]: Of course you don't.
[SPEAKER_00]: You may not think the team is it.
[SPEAKER_00]: You may not think that they're ultimately gonna be a wild car team.
[SPEAKER_00]: You might think that it's San Luis or Pittsburgh or Washington or Arizona or whomever or Miami, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: But,
[SPEAKER_00]: If we fast forward 10 days, and the podgers are 6-4-7-3 over those 10 games and all of a sudden
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, in a playoff position by half game or tied or whatever it looks like or a game up or half game out, there's no world where they're selling off, you know, and looking towards 2027, that I just, I don't see it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: You could argue the merits of being the sixth seed and having to play a road playoff series and your chances in a crowd of national league, which seems like Philadelphia, Milwaukee, Atlanta, LA, the
[SPEAKER_00]: Cubs, right, I mean, you can argue whatever you want.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I agree with the argument, but it's not going to happen.
[SPEAKER_00]: Again, I understand a point, like the point is a valid one.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you think that they need to like turn the thing over and we've seen enough of this version of the Padre's and their window is closing and they had a better chance in 2024 than they doing 2026 or a better chance in 2022 than they will in 2022.
[SPEAKER_00]: I understand that premise in that point.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just telling you,
[SPEAKER_00]: Leopard's don't change their spots and the way that AJ Preller operates should we should not expect it to be changing all of a sudden Just because the year is 2026 as opposed to 2022 or 2024 Well, Blitter at a bomb thank you says we could probably get a big haul if we package King Miller tying Adrian at one deal just told Mani and Zander Jake this team is too stuck in the mud
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, obviously, that would be a series of moves.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, there's no move in a trade deadline that would include four major leaders in one deal like that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that would be like one of the biggest deals in the history of sports or baseball, modern baseball, if Mason Miller and Adrian Moroho and Michael King and Typhrance were all in one deal that would be an incredible deal.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, with all that being said could those players or a majority of those players move, if the podger is sell, yeah, of course they could.
[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, Michael King could be traded.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's about to be a free agent at the end of the year.
[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, Mason Miller could be traded.
[SPEAKER_00]: He demands the most in return, potentially.
[SPEAKER_00]: Ty France has been terrific.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's got a near 900 OPS.
[SPEAKER_00]: I tried him to, if I was out of it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Adrian Moron is a free agent.
[SPEAKER_00]: I would trade him to, if I was out of it.
[SPEAKER_00]: So those players all could be moved.
[SPEAKER_00]: unlikely, but it's at least possible, even with his no trade clause.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's at least something to consider that he could be moved.
[SPEAKER_00]: Jake could be moved, man.
[SPEAKER_00]: It can't be moved.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't see a man going anywhere.
[SPEAKER_00]: I really don't.
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, could they get a haul?
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just for Mason Miller.
[SPEAKER_00]: Forget about.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, forget about Thai friends for a second or age or more and they all have value in their own right and they'll have probably significant value, but the real true franchise altering value remains in Mesa Miller who's as good as it comes at his position and is controllable for each of the last three years for the next three years beyond 2026.
[SPEAKER_00]: So again, all this is going to play out, but we'll have all the answers to the test in the next.
[SPEAKER_00]: 10, 11, 12 days, whatever it is.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, all the answers coming up here in the next 10, or 11, or 12 days.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Kenzie says, Podger's fans told the deadline are basically day traders, when one game buy it, lose one game, sell the whole team.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't just think it's fans, I think it's the media, I think it's to some extent the organization.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think the organization has plans for both possibilities.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think they have planned for making additions to this team, if they're in a position where that makes sense, I think they have planned to make subtractions from this team, if they're in a position where that makes the most sense.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what they should be doing.
[SPEAKER_00]: They should be prepared for whatever situation their team has put them in.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's what the team does.
[SPEAKER_00]: You've heard Perler say this before.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, Perler put the team together, but now we're 100 plus games in.
[SPEAKER_00]: What is the team's performance looking like when he has to make more determinations on the future of this version of the Padre?
[SPEAKER_00]: So, again, that's why I think these games are so crucially important.
[SPEAKER_00]: The last thing you want to beat right now is Miami, I mean, if in terms of holding your team together, obviously if the podgers go in the tank like that, loosen their next five games, they're sellers and probably among the bigger sellers in the sport, if they lose their next five games or six of seven or even five of seven or six of eight.
[SPEAKER_00]: But if they win six of seven, I get it, the if is capitalized.
[SPEAKER_00]: Then they're going to be aggressive buyers, not that doesn't mean they're landing terror, scuba, and training Ethan Salas, but it means, I mean, go look at Jeff Passons article today, VSBM, and among the top 10 potential available players at the deadline, the potters are listed as best fits for three, four or five of those players, including multiple starting pitchers that are listed among the the biggest and best gets at the deadline.
[SPEAKER_00]: So if it's so clear as day that they're selling, then why is Jeff Passett listing them as a potential fit or buyer for players like Joe Ryan?
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if he listed them for school or not, but he did list them for other starting pictures among the top 10 players that could be available at the deadline.
[SPEAKER_00]: Why is he doing that?
[SPEAKER_00]: Because the podgers haven't made a decision yet that they were a seller or a buyer and he wrote about that is Mason Miller write up saying if they don't turn it around soon Miller could be an expodry biologist third, but again the caveat there is if they don't turn it around and you may think that you know that they're not going to and you might be right, but let's just see that play out over the course of the next 10 days.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, rocket, thank you, Mattie says, well, selling is the best option.
[SPEAKER_00]: The current playoff picture means it's hard for the front office to fully sign off on that decision by and sell is my call.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's a possibility.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um,
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I don't, I don't know what that really is ultimately accomplishing.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of like rearranging the chairs on the deck of a Titanic a little bit.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, okay, I mean, I guess not, if you like, if you traded away Mason Miller, and got this huge haul in return, and that was your only sell-off.
[SPEAKER_00]: move.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then you add it to starting pitchers.
[SPEAKER_00]: That would be compelling.
[SPEAKER_00]: Why?
[SPEAKER_00]: You still have a good back end of your bullpen.
[SPEAKER_00]: You don't have Mason Miller, but you have age or more home.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you hope to get Jason Adam back.
[SPEAKER_00]: You hope to get Jeremiah strata back.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you have pieces back there.
[SPEAKER_00]: Even if you don't have the number one bullpen on the sport, you've got a good bullpen, even without Mason Miller.
[SPEAKER_00]: And now you're getting your whole back that could impact you and maybe in 2026, but certainly
[SPEAKER_00]: in 2027 and beyond.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you've also added to your rotation, which is a clear need.
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, you've lost your, you know, plus plus all star elite closer, but you've addressed starting pitching needs.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you've watched your offense improve.
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe you add, you know, a mid to your bat in there as well.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I kind of get that, you know, it's like someone makes you an offer you can't refuse on Mason Miller and you part ways.
[SPEAKER_00]: That alone doesn't mean the podger is our going to the postseason.
[SPEAKER_00]: You might say, John, you're crazy.
[SPEAKER_00]: Of course it does.
[SPEAKER_00]: These teams are good, and we've seen teams get into the postseason with 83 wins.
[SPEAKER_00]: The Padre is I can include in the not good conversation, that doesn't mean someone's not going to win 83 games.
[SPEAKER_00]: Among these teams that are fighting for this playoff spot, someone's winning 83 or 84 games.
[SPEAKER_00]: It can be San Diego.
[SPEAKER_00]: It is possible to accomplish without Mesa Miller, shit with Mesa Miller, they're not good.
[SPEAKER_00]: You think with Adam, all of a sudden, the wheels just completely fall off.
[SPEAKER_00]: Again, you could make the argument that their bullpen is already a strength, so dealing from a position of strength to address positions of need has potential value is what I would say.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, to rock its point, as I talk myself through it more, it is a possibility, and maybe there is some value, and considering it doesn't mean they'll do it, but at least value and considering it, here with the deadline approaching.
[SPEAKER_00]: Mauricio, thank you, man.
[SPEAKER_00]: Appreciate the super.
[SPEAKER_00]: He says, had the honor of being last caller of 2025, sees Nadja and Jim, did you?
[SPEAKER_00]: Appreciate you doing that, man.
[SPEAKER_00]: He says, very mostly draining this year, but they are definitely in it now.
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe by one pitcher and try.
[SPEAKER_00]: It is a mostly journey to.
[SPEAKER_00]: For everyone, I sympathize with everyone watching because you are putting time, money, blood, sweat tears into it.
[SPEAKER_00]: What's what you're doing?
[SPEAKER_00]: You're thinking about it.
[SPEAKER_00]: What do you get up?
[SPEAKER_00]: You're consuming content after games.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're on social media before the games and during the games.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're watching the game.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're on your phone.
[SPEAKER_00]: You want to know what's playing out.
[SPEAKER_00]: You want to know what's playing out around the
[SPEAKER_00]: You just, with all that we all put into it, you just want to know that they're playing to their ability or their capability and unfortunately for the first 101 games they haven't fully played to their ability.
[SPEAKER_00]: We all recognize this.
[SPEAKER_00]: The team is saying this every night.
[SPEAKER_00]: Read the quotes and Kevin Aces post game article today.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're all acknowledging like, hey, we'd love to be this team, and we need to turn it on sooner rather than later.
[SPEAKER_00]: And hopefully this is the side of something to come, but we've heard this for weeks and weeks and months on end.
[SPEAKER_00]: But the same things that we say and recognize, they say and recognize internally as well.
[SPEAKER_00]: But yes, it's a very frustrating experience, specifically in 2026.
[SPEAKER_00]: There've been some good times around this team over the course of this decade.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's also been some unbelievable disappointment.
[SPEAKER_00]: Unbelievable.
[SPEAKER_00]: disappointment, including the 2021 debacle, but even the posties and stuff, the way 2022 ended against the fill is not ideal, even with the Dodgers series.
[SPEAKER_00]: The way 2024 ended was a complete matter of shit show, considering the fact that the podgers might have been positioned in the world series in 2024, truthfully, when you look back on it.
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, it's a lot, it's a lot, but it's like
[SPEAKER_00]: What's the old saying like I'd stop eating chocolate but I'm I'm no quitter.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like you're you ain't switched an allegiances folks.
[SPEAKER_00]: Pajors are what we got Chargers turn their backs.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, maybe some of you are still charges fans understandable understandable.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're open to charge your household your dad and your grandfather.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're I get it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Honestly, it's not that's not the point I'm making.
[SPEAKER_00]: But.
[SPEAKER_00]: In San Diego, you wrap your arms around the Padres.
[SPEAKER_00]: You have no other choice.
[SPEAKER_00]: Not changing your hat and putting on a Dodgers hat.
[SPEAKER_00]: So this is what you got.
[SPEAKER_00]: So wrap your arms around it and you're in it in the good times the bad.
[SPEAKER_00]: And there's been many more bad than good.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you might be in your 50s or 60s and haven't have never seen the Padres when a world series obviously, but they've been around since 1969.
[SPEAKER_00]: understandable.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's been a cruel existence, but you're already this far in.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like you got your chips in the middle of the table.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're not folding now.
[SPEAKER_00]: So let's see it through.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's see it through.
[SPEAKER_00]: Case says, well, thank you, man.
[SPEAKER_00]: For the super says, I hope this age is terribly, but too little too laid.
[SPEAKER_00]: Love seeing the bomb still giving up too many runs.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, and no, honestly.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, yes and no, in terms of giving up too many runs, I think about Postal Starwreck.
[SPEAKER_00]: Today, obviously, pitching was very good.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yesterday, I thought the pitch was very good in a three to a loss.
[SPEAKER_00]: The third game of the Kansas City series, they allowed just two runs.
[SPEAKER_00]: The first game of the Kansas City series, they allowed just three runs the first nine innings before imploding on themselves in the 10th behind Kyle Hart.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the pitching has not been awful.
[SPEAKER_00]: In, you know, in this recent stretch of games and this five game period, right, it hasn't been awful if we're being honest with each other now you why not the aperture.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, they're holding up for dear life with the rotation and June and July there's no question about that and clearly, if you're going to get where you want to get and even if you do throw some chips in the middle of the table here, you're going to have to have starting pitching if you think you're going to get where you're going to get, but.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how it's going to age to your point.
[SPEAKER_00]: It may be too little too late, but there's 61 games remaining.
[SPEAKER_00]: This should guys, if we were doing this show on September 20th and the podgers were too out with 9 to play, I would tell you they've got hope and it's realistic.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's with 9 games to play.
[SPEAKER_00]: I would tell you it's
[SPEAKER_00]: plausible or realistic or not all hope is lost.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's 61 games to play.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now they need to take advantage of that.
[SPEAKER_00]: But the time has not run out.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not too late.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's getting late.
[SPEAKER_00]: Certainly as it pertains to the trade deadline.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's getting late.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is not the time to play poorly.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because yes, there's still be 50 games on the other side, but your team would be a shell of itself.
[SPEAKER_00]: These are going to tread off all these parts if you go to an eight in your next 10 games.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's not the time to play poorly, but it is not too late or 61 games remaining in the season.
[SPEAKER_00]: So no matter what you think about the podgers, what I would say is it's not too late as we sit here right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll get to all of the super seer to die podries when big over the land.
[SPEAKER_00]: They moved to within one game of 500 more importantly, maybe moving to within two games of that final wildcard spawn.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's see here where were we in the Supers?
[SPEAKER_00]: I think to this one from JDMLSR 2000, thank you, Matt, for your long-tap support of the channel.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the super chatty says, Tottie's bat hasn't cooled off since returning to right, maybe improved.
[SPEAKER_00]: After the continued talk early,
[SPEAKER_00]: of him being in better spirit playing short.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's an interesting point.
[SPEAKER_00]: I would agree with it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's a good point that I haven't brought up much if at all over the course of the last couple of weeks.
[SPEAKER_00]: I just think he's, I think everything is coming easier.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's consistently hitting the ball hard.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's consistently been on base.
[SPEAKER_00]: And now he's got,
[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, the launch angle, the exit velocity, and everything is just coming easier, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: And it does feel like almost like everything slowed down at the plate for me smiling and laughing.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's played out a lot here recently.
[SPEAKER_00]: I noticed that in Kansas City, I've noticed it again the first two games of this series.
[SPEAKER_00]: All of that to me is tremendously encouraging, but it doesn't guarantee us anything for the next 61 games.
[SPEAKER_00]: But like, I'm just going to do it right now.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to pull up.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, obviously, it's interesting because you want to, you want to grade them on the scale of the Fernando Tauti's junior.
[SPEAKER_00]: We thought he was the first three years of his career and you don't want to like grade them on a curve.
[SPEAKER_00]: So to speak and like give him the benefit of the doubt, like, well, the 2019 through 2021 Tauti's where I could see again.
[SPEAKER_00]: So since then he's been pretty good.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I kind of want to compare him to the player that I've seen him be before, but all of a sudden, it's not even all of a sudden, like he's been really consistent.
[SPEAKER_00]: the only area, it's like, other than that, Mrs. Lincoln had with the play.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the lack of power has been troubling, but seemingly he's coming around in a capacity and some capacity right now with that.
[SPEAKER_00]: That, again, if I told you he hit 286 this year, and if I told you I had a 350 on base,
[SPEAKER_00]: And then if I told you, he had slug, you'd be really encouraged.
[SPEAKER_00]: The problem is he hasn't had slug by and large this year, although he has more recently.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like his OPS is 752, he's no good by his standards.
[SPEAKER_00]: His career OPS is still 853.
[SPEAKER_00]: So he's 100 points below that.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the first three years of his career he was a 900 OPS guy.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's just come completely down from there.
[SPEAKER_00]: Take 853.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he can reshape 100 OPS this year.
[SPEAKER_00]: Is that wishful?
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, 48 points is not that insane.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think Merrill raised his OPS 20 points against Kansas City on Sunday.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I do think it's feasible if he's able to hit 8 to 10 more home runs, which I think is very realistic.
[SPEAKER_00]: Based on what he's doing right now.
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, 8 through 100, but if he hits 10 in his last 60, that alone will raise his OPS 25 points.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, I think he's capable of getting to 800.
[SPEAKER_00]: Again, I've lowered the bar.
[SPEAKER_00]: I get it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's a 900 OPS player.
[SPEAKER_00]: I would have told you five years ago.
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought he was a...
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, top five offensive talent in the game, well, one of one type player.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's no longer one of one type player, but he's still highly productive offense of player and brilliant defender, obviously.
[SPEAKER_00]: But he's gonna steal 35 bases.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's got 25 right now.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's capable of hitting 290.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's capable of getting on base at a 360 clip and he's capable of an 800 OPS.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a good year for most major leaders.
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe not for Fernando Tatsuchi, Jr. the first three years of his career.
[SPEAKER_00]: But,
[SPEAKER_00]: I think the point that you're making is a true one, which is he's been better and hopefully continues and hopefully he can continue to get better in the second half of the year that would be very encouraging obviously.
[SPEAKER_00]: Run it back to back.
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you, Matt.
[SPEAKER_00]: Crying it out.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the super chises don't make the snow, hey, to mistake again.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, I mean, it definitely with the benefit of hindsight and I said it real time.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure a number of you were here for it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I said it over and over and over again in the days, living up to the 2020-23 deadline, this team was not it.
[SPEAKER_00]: That team was in a worse shape, believe it or not, then this team record-wise.
[SPEAKER_00]: At one point, I think five games under 500 on July 26th, think about that later in the year, five games under, they still ultimately added that your or didn't subtract, they didn't add significantly, but they didn't subtract.
[SPEAKER_00]: And we said it real time and clearly the organization with hindsight would have made some moves to
[SPEAKER_00]: help plug holes and address, you know, future needs 24, 25, 26.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it was a mistake.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think the 2023 team was so pot committed, because they're like, we were at the NLCS last year.
[SPEAKER_00]: And now we've got one photo for a full season.
[SPEAKER_00]: And for an Antarctica, these juniors back, and we're going to win the world series.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then they were just awful.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like embarrassingly bad failing to live up to any expectation, falling flat under face, the thing was an absolute
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, the difference this time around is you don't have snow and hater you do have Miller.
[SPEAKER_00]: So if you thought holding out the snow and hater as rentals was a mistake, then you're going to think it's a huge mistake potentially if you hold on to Miller and you miss the postseason this year, although he is controllable for three years, but I think a lot of fans will say if they hold on to Miller, miss the postseason, go 82 and 80.
[SPEAKER_00]: heading into a lockout.
[SPEAKER_00]: People are going to say, you missed your chance to maximize the return for Mason Miller.
[SPEAKER_00]: He'll never be better than he is right now.
[SPEAKER_00]: He'll never have more control ability than he does right now.
[SPEAKER_00]: He might even lose a year of control on the other side with the CBA if they change the arbitration rules that's getting a little bit in the weeds, but that absolutely is a possibility that his contract could be shortened from six years to five.
[SPEAKER_00]: which would make them a free agent at the end of 2028, not 2029, all these factors that we need to consider.
[SPEAKER_00]: So right up back to back, your point is a valid one.
[SPEAKER_00]: It is something that everyone should be considering this time of year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thompson is the potters from the worst position between a rock at a heart place.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you're three or four games back in your cell, one or two games back you probably buy.
[SPEAKER_00]: Isn't that insane?
[SPEAKER_00]: But it's like probably true.
[SPEAKER_00]: But that's kind of like life.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you make a decision based on everything that's, you know, everything that you have in front of you.
[SPEAKER_00]: And sometimes you got to make a tough call.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, what's the difference between being one out and four out?
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, the difference is three games.
[SPEAKER_00]: What's the difference between being two out and four out?
[SPEAKER_00]: What's the difference is two games?
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it all matters.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you're not going to make some sweeping decision based on one game I wouldn't think.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not like you're one out and you're adding to terrible and you're two out and you're trading Mason Miller and Zanderbuggers.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that seems
[SPEAKER_00]: completely pie in the sky thinking, but if you're even as opposed to four out, that's a world of difference in a baseball season.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a world of difference.
[SPEAKER_00]: Four gances is significant.
[SPEAKER_00]: Being even also has significance in that conversation, but your point's a good point.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I've repeatedly harped on the following, which is you want to know who you are.
[SPEAKER_00]: Teams like the mats know that they're selling.
[SPEAKER_00]: Kansas City, they know they're selling.
[SPEAKER_00]: do you want to know who you are and the podgers are in that like what's that like that in between whatever that's called purgatory is where they are and they're not the only team is that Arizona is that St. Louis right now is that Washington you know the pirates obviously I think the pirates are
[SPEAKER_00]: you know, being in the conversation basically this time of year.
[SPEAKER_00]: But of those six teams that the podgers are a part of not all six are buying not all six are selling, but they'll be one or two that put some chips in.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's going to be one or two that takes some chips out.
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe there's one or two that's stamp hat, a blooper at a bump.
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you, ma'am.
[SPEAKER_00]: Says sorry to anyone buying it's this team core always gives hope and falls apart last year.
[SPEAKER_00]: While car was a joke, don't fall for it again.
[SPEAKER_00]: They won't go far.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not a big judge of team based on what they did in the postseason guy in terms of like being like told you so I mean, it's a best of three series.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's so random, you know, I mean, I'll be the first to criticize if they go to.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, with Lana for a three game series, and it's web two games to not all criticize, but it'll also recognize it's a three game baseball series.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, it's like you might be at Lana, and you might win the analyst, and then you might host the podger as an invest of three series and the postseason might lose two games to not, because that's just how the baseball postseason can work.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we've seen in very recent history, I think it's six seed where the fill is a six seed when they beat the fill is they were vaccinated when they beat the podger that were six seed.
[SPEAKER_00]: in 2022 when they went to the world series.
[SPEAKER_00]: Arizona was a five or six seed when they went to the world series in 2023.
[SPEAKER_00]: We've seen 80 something wind teams reach world series and wind world series, including the giants in the 2010s.
[SPEAKER_00]: So like nobody knows that
[SPEAKER_00]: This a team can't do something if they reach the postseason, like, yeah, the whole factor there to consider is can they make the postseason, but you can't right now tell me that if the team is in the postseason, they have no chance of advancing nobody, nobody has that That information available to them.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's impossible to predict in a sport like baseball.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's much easier to predict.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's more like football or basketball.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, if you're the seven seed in the UFC and you got to go to Buffalo in your Miami, you're losing the playoff game.
[SPEAKER_00]: If it's the NBA playoffs, it's the two versus seven, and it's San Antonio against Portland, you have no shot.
[SPEAKER_00]: But that's not what this is, because starting pitching is everything, and there's a random element to it as well.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's one pitch.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's one call.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's one error.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's one outing.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's so much that goes into it that it's not like it's always chalk.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, again, it's just one of the last two world series.
[SPEAKER_00]: Not every team.
[SPEAKER_00]: that enters the postseason as a favorite in baseball history, ends up winning the world series.
[SPEAKER_00]: In fact, it's more rare than not when that actually plays out in that manner.
[SPEAKER_00]: In Rika, thank you man, for the super says in my opinion, if you're gonna be a buyer you buy now.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think it overly matters truthfully.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like in terms of buying now as opposed to seven days from now, it's like if you add Jill Ryan now,
[SPEAKER_00]: you go one more start.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now margins are thin, you're right, margins are thin, so you might be in by-game or out by-game.
[SPEAKER_00]: But Joe Ryan's next start is the difference to make the postseason or not.
[SPEAKER_00]: We could look back at 100 examples already right now, then of the difference between the making the postseason or not.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's not Joe Ryan that's going to protect the six three lead in the ninth inning against the lowly royals the other day.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not Joe Ryan that's not going to be able to score a run against that, you know, very soft Atlanta reliever yesterday lands bullpins very good, but whatever they did yesterday, they use that reliever for the final seven ounce because everyone was down.
[SPEAKER_00]: You get my point.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not as simple as typically being like, if you give me, you know, three extra games of some position player and one extra start from
[SPEAKER_00]: Joe Ryan and, you know, I mean, maybe, you know, maybe it matters, but then again, at the end of the season, if the podger is missed the postseason by a game, we're going to look at 50 examples of things that you wish went differently, 50, literally 50 is what I'm going to look at.
[SPEAKER_00]: If that's how it plays out.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't think it matters significantly.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you told me tomorrow to, you know, tear scubbles on the team, sure, give me the extra start.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, any of these, you know, frontline starters are on the team.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you prefer to have them for more starts as opposed to the last starts, but we're 101 games in.
[SPEAKER_00]: What's the difference between making the trade at the 106 game mark or the 1090 game mark?
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think it's overly significant.
[SPEAKER_00]: Although, again, when you're trying to win on the edges, I guess it does have some amount of value.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Can't see a appreciate your man again.
[SPEAKER_00]: He says Griffin canning, starting tomorrow.
[SPEAKER_00]: Is Griffin canning or Michael King?
[SPEAKER_00]: I think canning might be Thursday.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Thursday's canning sale is one of those.
[SPEAKER_00]: How is he still on his team?
[SPEAKER_00]: He's been absolutely awful one in eight with his six, seven, two.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they are in lies the point with the rotation.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's
[SPEAKER_00]: Whether it's Canon, I mean, Bueller had been awful before today, just awful.
[SPEAKER_00]: His last three starts.
[SPEAKER_00]: Is he a Hizzi array for the year was up to like five, seven, wasn't it?
[SPEAKER_00]: Heading it to today.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's not like you have one glaring hole in your rotation.
[SPEAKER_00]: If anything, you have one effective starter in your rotation, and that's been my king.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's not just Canon, it's not just Bueller, it's not just the injuries they're dealing with Poveta, Vasquez, Musgrove, whatever else.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's the whole thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's the combination of it all, which is also why I wouldn't expect everything turnover if they add one starting pitcher.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're not one starting pitcher away from
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, this unbelievable second half, or seemingly, they're not one starting pitcher away from this unbelievable second half.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now it's plugging a hole, it's addressing a need, but you could certainly argue they need more than that.
[SPEAKER_00]: They need Povetta's return.
[SPEAKER_00]: They need the addition of Joe Ryan.
[SPEAKER_00]: They need more effectiveness for mocker-bular.
[SPEAKER_00]: They need Griffin Canning, maybe to being sure, but truly based in this conversation, but
[SPEAKER_00]: Griffin County has been very disappointing obviously injured last year.
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought, you know, early on, there was a reasons for at least hope or some amount of optimism.
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, he's fallen flat unfortunately here in 2020.
[SPEAKER_00]: Sixth is a big problem.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're right.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you don't want him starting another, you know, 12, 13 times this year.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because that's not good enough in my opinion and most people's opinions.
[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously in the second half of the year.
[SPEAKER_00]: Andrew, it's going on, man.
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_00]: He says, don't forget Peter was dying in 23 big factor then.
[SPEAKER_00]: We had this conversation another day.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what Peter's health was in July of 2023.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know he passed shortly after, but just because he passed months after doesn't mean he was aware
[SPEAKER_00]: or the organization was operating because of his health in such a manner, right then?
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll never know, truthfully, neither myself, fans, I mean, some people maybe in the front office or more aware of that than others, you know, maybe AJ Perler has more insight on that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure he does, but that's such a personal matter that
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's hard to speculate on truth.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't even like speculating on it because I don't, it's something that to me is kind of outside the white lines.
[SPEAKER_00]: Too far outside of the white lines.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, for a moment, put Peter's health to the side and just consider where the organization was, whether it was Peter's either, or John's idler, or Jose Feliciano, or John Schaefer, running the club.
[SPEAKER_00]: You have to put yourself back there.
[SPEAKER_00]: The big four, you had one soda in his prime as like a 25-year-old.
[SPEAKER_00]: a First Ballet Hall of Famer who had already won a World Series title with the Nationals as like a 19-year-old.
[SPEAKER_00]: You had a star of stars returning in Fernando Totti's Junior.
[SPEAKER_00]: You had Mani, you had added Zander, right, to a team that had just played for an NLCS.
[SPEAKER_00]: Your expectations are through the roof.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you're not meeting them in July, but you're showing a little bit of life there later.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think they swept the Texas Rangers at home.
[SPEAKER_00]: They pulled it within like a game of 500.
[SPEAKER_00]: They bet on that roster.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they made the wrong bet.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I think it is less to do with Peter's health and more to do with the state of the podries in that exact moment in time in terms of why they made the decisions they made.
[SPEAKER_00]: I disagree with them, but I understand what they were thinking.
[SPEAKER_00]: They were betting on something that never came to fruition, but seemingly should have come to fruition at least on paper and for whatever reason it never did.
[SPEAKER_00]: Again, the conversation that we can have for forever, like the how many looks does it take to get to the tits of your whole center, but to top the world we'll never know.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, um, but I appreciate the super.
[SPEAKER_00]: Appreciate the super.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's say a moment while we have it to go back to what Jeff Passen told Pat McAfee today on the SPN if you missed it which was essentially his actual quote was
[SPEAKER_00]: Mason Miller is definitely available.
[SPEAKER_00]: So on one hand, you're like, well, they're clearly listening.
[SPEAKER_00]: Doesn't mean he'll be moved.
[SPEAKER_00]: He made that point.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it is Bandakom.
[SPEAKER_00]: He lists Mason Miller's chances of being treated at 40%.
[SPEAKER_00]: So still more likely he stays than goes, having it to the day.
[SPEAKER_00]: but he said he was definitely available, which to me means the podgers are absolutely listening on Miller, which is what they should be doing.
[SPEAKER_00]: And if they're listening on Miller, they're going to get the price bought up.
[SPEAKER_00]: Price is going up because they're going to be listening in un-multiple offers, Milwaukee, the Yankees, the raise, whomever, right, Boston.
[SPEAKER_00]: And when you get the three plus bitters in, all of a sudden you can get that Godfather type package potentially on your desk that you need to consider.
[SPEAKER_00]: And maybe that is something we'll consider, no matter how the team is playing, because it helps to address some of their needs moving forward.
[SPEAKER_00]: that to me is probably the most interesting beyond speculation of the day because it comes from Jeff Pass, and this isn't Bob Nightingale.
[SPEAKER_00]: This isn't John Hayman.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they hit and mess.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that would speculation.
[SPEAKER_00]: Jeff Pass isn't saying the Mason Miller is going to be treated, but he is saying that the podgers are essentially listening on Mason Miller.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's the first time I've heard him stake that case publicly.
[SPEAKER_00]: unless I've missed something along the way, that's essentially the first time I've heard passing, state that publicly with the deadline approaching.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think passing understands like we understand what is on the line for the podgers over the course of the next week plus, which is like now or never, still salvageable, still savable, but it has to be done right now, because I don't think Preller bets on this team after the deadline if they're not playing well
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, right now, he's gonna reserve judgment, so to speak.
[SPEAKER_00]: You go play well, they can be bet on.
[SPEAKER_00]: You play poorly, they're writing sound the wall, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: But I don't think we're gonna get to the deadline and he's all of a sudden gonna, you know, bet on them if they're not playing good baseball.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it is now or never.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I do think it's very realistic that Mason Miller could be moved.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I am hopeful they're able to put it off because they play well here over the next week.
[SPEAKER_00]: I still want to be a believer, even if the best case scenario is as sexy, you know, I mean, do it, would you prefer right now in the 21st of July that this team goes in the tank?
[SPEAKER_00]: And you take the rest of your summer off and you don't have any compelling reason to watch the
[SPEAKER_00]: or three games over 500, where a game out of a playoff spot, fuck, live a little.
[SPEAKER_00]: What's the danger in hoping and dreaming?
[SPEAKER_00]: What happens to you?
[SPEAKER_00]: You have your hopes dashed and diminished, well, you've had that before as a podress fan.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's what I prefer now.
[SPEAKER_00]: Again, I made the case earlier.
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe it's one that is gonna be entertained.
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe you play well enough and yeah, out of starting pitcher too, yeah out of bad, and you try to make some other.
[SPEAKER_00]: because it's just makes sense for the organization.
[SPEAKER_00]: You have enough help in the back of your both end.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not like you're going to blow every lead just because you don't have Mason Miller in the back of your both end.
[SPEAKER_00]: And now you're addressing multiple needs, potentially in that deal.
[SPEAKER_00]: And maybe that's helping you a little bit in 2020, six, and maybe it's helping you a lot in 2020, seven.
[SPEAKER_00]: So...
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a, it's a blank canvas.
[SPEAKER_00]: So to speak, there's a lot of possibilities.
[SPEAKER_00]: I would say an infinite number of possibilities because when you consider what buying could mean, what selling could mean, what standing pat could mean, what doing a little bit of both could mean, and then all the combination of players, maybe you're trading Michael King, maybe you're not, maybe you're trading Mason Miller, maybe you're not, maybe you're adding starting pitching maybe you're not.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, there's, it's an infinite number of possibilities.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure, probably sees it the same way in the front office too.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure they're working late nights coming up with possible paths,
[SPEAKER_00]: to how to tackle the trade deadline here over the course of the next week or so.
[SPEAKER_00]: So buckle up, so it's a big Jonathan appreciate your man.
[SPEAKER_00]: He says, if they buy no rentals, yeah, I would tend to agree unless they're dirt cheap.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I think Prellers M.O.
[SPEAKER_00]: has always been to get pieces back that are controllable.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think he wants rentals by and large, but sometimes you're going to acquire him, Ryan O'Horn is a good example of a rental that they acquired in 2025.
[SPEAKER_00]: The advantages of the rental is the investment slash assets are normally smaller than getting a controlable piece.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you go out of piece that's under control through 227 or 228 and the cost of doing business is more significant.
[SPEAKER_00]: Go and get a rental and sometimes it's a lower level prospect.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's the.
[SPEAKER_00]: conversation that you're having internally.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what you're weighing the pros and cons of.
[SPEAKER_00]: This team specifically, yeah, it's not the type of team that you're putting all your marbles into, you know, the basket of 2026.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I understand that point.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like you'd like to have someone.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you think you're acquiring someone that's going to pay dividends, you'd like them to at least have a chance to pay dividends for you in 2027 as well.
[SPEAKER_00]: If 2026 isn't it, but it's at what cost is my point.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you could acquire a
[SPEAKER_00]: at a very low cost, at a stormy picture that's a rental at a very low cost, that actually might make more sense than going out and acquiring someone with three years of control, you know, in your rotation that you're going to have to move ahead and Earth to acquire.
[SPEAKER_00]: But to your point, by and large, the way Preller operates, is he wants some of it's going to be here for more than just a minute.
[SPEAKER_00]: We say that, so to left after a year or two months, we say that Miller could leave after essentially 162 games in a podger as uniform, but I think he prefers almost clamors to control ability, which then puts the ball in his court.
[SPEAKER_00]: He either holds onto the asset, he then spins off the asset potentially, but yeah, I do think that's the preference, but then again, this system isn't so ripe, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: At best, this is probably the,
[SPEAKER_00]: third or fourth or fifth were system in the sport right now that can change obviously if they're sellers and they're acquiring assets to address some of that in their system and that can change the other way they can fall back to 30 if they are trading from within to address needs of the big league level over the course of the next week so all these things have to be factored and considered but knowing that their system isn't a strength I wouldn't be shocked actually if they did add a rental piece or
[SPEAKER_00]: at the deadlines.
[SPEAKER_00]: I just don't know what kind of assets they have with their system right now that they're going to be pulling from, especially if you don't want to trade, you know, your top two or three players in your system, including Ethan's house, if you don't want to do that, what avenues do you have?
[SPEAKER_00]: to actually nick your team substantially better at this deadline.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know the system as well as some people do.
[SPEAKER_00]: I just don't, I know some of the names.
[SPEAKER_00]: I understand how the sport operates and how the buying and selling plays out.
[SPEAKER_00]: But you can't continue to pollite your system and pretend like it's unlimited supply of prospects that other teams are gonna cover it and clamor for.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's not how it works.
[SPEAKER_00]: When you
[SPEAKER_00]: draw from your system.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like drawing from your bank account.
[SPEAKER_00]: Eventually, you know, if you had 10 grand and you keep taking 500 bucks out every week, you can't do it every week because you're gonna run out of it in 20 weeks.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think it's a little bit the same thing with the assets that you have within an organization.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, I'll tell you what, man.
[SPEAKER_00]: Again, so much conversation right now is about what's playing out off-field about standings, about the roster, about the deadline, about what comes
[SPEAKER_00]: honor before August 3rd and when it looks like afterwards, truth be told so much of it hinges on how they're playing on field.
[SPEAKER_00]: We all want to talk about the all field myself included.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm always been enamored by the Jerry Deadline.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's fascinating, especially with the Padre specifically with AJ Preller.
[SPEAKER_00]: who moves and shakes as much as any executive and modern baseball history.
[SPEAKER_00]: But if you're intrigued by what the deadlines gonna be presenting the Padres, then look no further than what's happening on field.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because you're gonna see it with your own two eyes.
[SPEAKER_00]: If it looks good on field, they're a buyer.
[SPEAKER_00]: If it looks bad on field over the next 10 days, they're a seller.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's how it's gonna play out, trust me.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'd be very surprised if I'm off there.
[SPEAKER_00]: If they play well over the next 10 days, and they go seven and three, they're buying.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'd be surprised if I'm wrong.
[SPEAKER_00]: If they play poorly over the next 10 days and go 3 and 7, they'll sell.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'd be surprised if I'm wrong.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's how I say it.
[SPEAKER_00]: And now, third in the middle, that's the, you know, stay tuned.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's see what happens.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like the, um, what are those called?
[SPEAKER_00]: We're like, the, um,
[SPEAKER_00]: where what the hell's it called guys when you see like um people are deciding to tell people like is it a boy or is it a girl and they do like surprise like this like that's kind of what it is if you go five and five or four and six or six and four you're a game out of your two out or you're one up or one back you get the point what is that called by the way that the whole surprise thing that was that called
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, what what ever it's called is what it's called.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, while we have a moment, I'm still connected here.
[SPEAKER_00]: Secondly, what is that gender reveal?
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you, James.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, gender reveal.
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you, James.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, guys, good stuff over the last hour with this one meditation of the wrap up show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then, of course, wrap up shows this weekend as well.
[SPEAKER_00]: As the Padres take on the Marlins in this critical, critical time of year for San Diego.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, time for the supers here.
[SPEAKER_00]: Before we get out of here, if you have a super
[SPEAKER_00]: Jonathan says it has to be three years with 2027, not guaranteed.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're saying if you're going to acquire a player, you want to have them control for 2026 the rest of the year and 27 to 28.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what happens.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like if what happens with contracts of 2027 were to be like an unplayed season, I'm not even going there right now.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going there.
[SPEAKER_00]: I hope we don't see that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I really don't want to see that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's terrible for everyone.
[SPEAKER_00]: Fans included owners, players, sports fans, the sport of baseball.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I don't want the nuclear option.
[SPEAKER_00]: I really don't.
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to see baseball in 2020, 7.
[SPEAKER_00]: I hope we miss zero games in 2020, 7.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I get your point.
[SPEAKER_00]: You want a controllable piece.
[SPEAKER_00]: Perler wants a controllable piece and they are preferred to rentals by and large.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I get that point.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I don't think they need to acquire players that have three years of control, triathlete.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because I think 2020, 7 is going to be play.
[SPEAKER_00]: I really don't.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, guys.
[SPEAKER_00]: Podger's win.
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll see if they can get back to 500 on Wednesday.
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