[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to Drinking Throw.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, welcome to Drinking Throw's Kids.
[SPEAKER_00]: Friday night show.
[SPEAKER_00]: Here's on Sunday.
[SPEAKER_00]: Nicholas.
[SPEAKER_00]: Nicola's palm a chano.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's good to see.
[SPEAKER_01]: Is it Nicola's?
[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's Nicola.
[SPEAKER_00]: Is it really?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: What is what is that?
[SPEAKER_01]: So, is that Italian?
[SPEAKER_01]: It is Italian and in Italy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh-huh.
[SPEAKER_01]: It is a, that's a male name.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a very popular male name.
[SPEAKER_01]: And in America, a lot of people will name their daughters, Nicola, and they're like, yeah, it's a great female Italian name, but Italians are like,
[SPEAKER_01]: No, like that's a dude name.
[SPEAKER_00]: We had to have fake names at all of Garden when I work there.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think there was a Nicole over there.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, of course.
[SPEAKER_00]: To make it sound more Italian.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, to make it, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was Rosalini.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's good.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I went with that one.
[SPEAKER_01]: I like that.
[SPEAKER_00]: None of that's true.
[SPEAKER_00]: None of that is true.
[SPEAKER_00]: It should be though.
[SPEAKER_01]: I could absolutely believe that that happened.
[SPEAKER_00]: Ros, I did serve four tours, man, vividly.
[SPEAKER_01]: At the Olive Garden.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Manacotti shells everywhere the fucking marinara just splashed I'll live with my my compadres my following compadres Yeah, I've got PTSD to this day.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's it's a tough play.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a veteran.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a veteran of the old garden now.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah
[SPEAKER_00]: And I love it.
[SPEAKER_00]: We did this on the yesterday show, but they gave out the never-ending pasta and salad and salad.
[SPEAKER_01]: And sold out, like 100,000 or something.
[SPEAKER_00]: 10,000, 10,000 sold out like this.
[SPEAKER_00]: And everybody is using it the White House just used it this morning.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if you saw it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I did that.
[SPEAKER_00]: They said the Trump had the speech about voting last night.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it said, dude, currently it was like, you need a fucking ID for the all of garden card.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you've got to present that to get the never ending pasta and salad.
[SPEAKER_00]: Why don't you need it to vote and listeners were hitting me up all day today going, Hey, is that true?
[SPEAKER_00]: And I go, it's absolutely true.
[SPEAKER_00]: Otherwise, you just give that card to everybody else and then everybody free.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, everybody was going to Olive Garden.
[SPEAKER_01]: They'd borrow the card.
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, so like, yeah, no, if Olive Garden requires an ID, you need an ID to vote.
[SPEAKER_01]: I like that they have that level of security that there's a database.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, is this legit?
[SPEAKER_00]: There is an end to the breadsticks, okay?
[SPEAKER_00]: There is an end to the Parmesan.
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you service member today.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, it all of garden.
[SPEAKER_00]: She is thanking our garden.
[SPEAKER_00]: 10,000 people, dude.
[SPEAKER_00]: Bought that goddamn thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was only a hundred bucks.
[SPEAKER_00]: Really?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, you can eat there for four months, uh, whatever you want on your box.
[SPEAKER_00]: We got to get the card and they sold out like that gone.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's cheap.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_00]: The card is beautiful too, by the way.
[SPEAKER_01]: Is it doesn't have your name on it?
[SPEAKER_00]: No, uh, yeah, it's got your name on the back.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then, uh, but the front is everything you hope for and if like a platinum.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you lose the card, you don't get to to go back.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you, it's, that's it.
[SPEAKER_01]: You have to maintain the security of the way back in the day.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm, you know, a couple summers younger than you probably wouldn't imagine.
[SPEAKER_00]: Dude, um, my buddies had the hudders card in the 90s, uh, where it was, the, the golden hudders card.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you could eat for free at any hudders location in the nation, but once you lost that card, it was gone.
[SPEAKER_00]: You were done.
[SPEAKER_01]: And my one buddy, would they block you then from going to hudders?
[SPEAKER_00]: No, you could still go.
[SPEAKER_00]: But you couldn't say, oh, hey, pull up my name in the system.
[SPEAKER_00]: There is no system.
[SPEAKER_00]: So you physically have to present the card.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I met one of my buddies.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was hosting a charity event for him.
[SPEAKER_00]: Ironically for veterans on Alabama.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was in Alabama, and I'm hosting this charity event.
[SPEAKER_00]: We go out the night before to Hooters.
[SPEAKER_00]: have some wings, have some drinks, and I'm not going to say who it is, a famous actor.
[SPEAKER_00]: He goes, I got him, and just pulls out the card, and I go, no way, dude, I've been seen this in 30 years, and I was like, what the fuck, and he goes, allow me, that's exactly what he said.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I go, is this real, because I'd never been in the presence of greatness of a gold card, of a gold card from Hooters, and so he hands it to the waitress.
[SPEAKER_00]: and she goes, oh wow.
[SPEAKER_00]: I've heard about these, but I've never seen one.
[SPEAKER_01]: What is it called?
[SPEAKER_00]: This smother fuckers held on to for 30 years.
[SPEAKER_00]: You had to know somebody like there was no cost.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_00]: And but once she lives it was gone and she goes, I'm sorry but I had to bring her for a manager.
[SPEAKER_00]: So they brought the manager over and they go, now this is this is legit.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just meals free and he just, he looks at us and he goes, hey, it was a big table.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like six of us whenever we're boozing and he goes, just tap her cool and I was like, look, we're going to tap her with the bill as you know.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, she made two 300 bucks, whatever it was.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it was great.
[SPEAKER_00]: But the fact that this that's a big hooters bill.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you guys went hard.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yo, crab legs to start with.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I can go through the whole thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Season curlies.
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, and then the wings and then the pictures appear.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it was a game on and all that other stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I mean, we went.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: we went hard the night before because we didn't I didn't have to was the chair to think for the next night.
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I'm going to hotel.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm in a hotel.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, I'm in a hotel.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm in slept in that 63 degree AC.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I go.
[SPEAKER_01]: I go as far down as it'll go.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I go 15 degrees on under mom Donnie.
[SPEAKER_00]: I. I go.
[SPEAKER_00]: I hit that 63 dog.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no, we're getting down there.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're getting it down there, dude.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, if it's not, I like to kill one European with every tell stay, you know, like, if I drop this thing to 60, you know, the temperatures globally will rise and one more European will die.
[SPEAKER_00]: I get up in the morning and who it tells and I have to turn on the heat.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's how cold I am.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's where I know that I've really maximize my stay at a Hampton Inn.
[SPEAKER_00]: Whatever the fuck it is, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Nick is here today because it's the 10 year anniversary of range 15.
[SPEAKER_00]: You guys have had his up and he's saying, hey man, why don't you do a 10 year anniversary so I said, I love to.
[SPEAKER_00]: We run taxes.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right before we left taxes, I had Matt Best in the show in Jared.
[SPEAKER_00]: We were talking about that a little bit, but also all the other companies combined.
[SPEAKER_00]: We didn't do a full episode though on range 15.
[SPEAKER_00]: little behind the scenes fun fact for you here.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was pretty much me you and Hollywood who kind of produced it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_00]: You did, you handled most of the financing and then all the the gift giveaways.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, what a nightmare now.
[SPEAKER_01]: What a nightmare.
[SPEAKER_01]: I will get into it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I will get a jackman to build just to talk about.
[SPEAKER_00]: He wouldn't just to talk.
[SPEAKER_00]: He won't talk about it.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was so bad.
[SPEAKER_01]: You want to talk about PTSD at Jack is like, no, I'll text him because we just, you know, we just kind of got, Ranger up back, so we've got all these boxes and stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: And like, I found like three giant boxes of perks.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I like took pictures and texted him to Jack.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he was like, please don't do this to me.
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I think that's why you quit.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's why you quit, Reggie.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think I think it is.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not kidding.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not, I know.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll head him up after the show, but like I think that's why I quit.
[SPEAKER_00]: He was just like, I can't.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was, well, he also chased the girl at the time.
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And by the way, it was the right decision.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was the right decision.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was time for the time.
[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, yeah, yeah, he's done it.
[SPEAKER_00]: That didn't happen.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's done great.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but you know best.
[SPEAKER_01]: Jack is the best.
[SPEAKER_00]: Jack is the fucking best.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's awesome all the time.
[SPEAKER_01]: One of my favorite people on planet Earth.
[SPEAKER_00]: Get a great history show, by the way, on YouTube.
[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely great.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's always been him.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's what he was meant to do.
[SPEAKER_01]: Me too.
[SPEAKER_00]: I really do.
[SPEAKER_01]: Me too.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, we'd be having conversations and he'd be citing like these primary sources that were like individual letters of two Americans, no one's ever heard of.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, I'd be interested and I'd look around the room and everyone else is like, what is this guy talking about right now?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: But there is like a huge group of people that want that kind of raw,
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I sold two shows to the history channel and with that's they said the average median age of a history consumer is 56.
[SPEAKER_00]: That makes sense.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then it said all the way up to 70's 80, whenever you die right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And there was a couple of the guys that used to work for us about a history show.
[SPEAKER_00]: I get you two young for this bullshit.
[SPEAKER_00]: I go, you know, it'll catch up in 20 years.
[SPEAKER_00]: But Jack already looks like he's 56.
[SPEAKER_00]: So like when he's on screen, you're like, you know, that's the guy I trust for history.
[SPEAKER_01]: next year is the big five o' for me and uh... is a really it is yeah sick and i need to figure out if i'm gonna get obsessed about the revolutionary war the civil war world war two war two world i'm i'm i'm torn between revolutionary and world war two because i'm a big g-dub guy you know yeah but here's the thing it when you see that colorized
[SPEAKER_00]: uh, quality now of over two footage.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're not going to get that from back then.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because it wasn't cameras.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's true.
[SPEAKER_00]: So you're either going to have to read about it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Listen about it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I like reading.
[SPEAKER_01]: Or, all right, you know, that's why, you know, I gave, I gave Dan that that Washington book.
[SPEAKER_01]: I hope you read it.
[SPEAKER_00]: He did, actually.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you know there was a favorite book?
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I didn't know that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, shit.
[SPEAKER_00]: He talked about him.
[SPEAKER_00]: The show.
[SPEAKER_00]: That was his favorite fucking book.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a Washington movie out now.
[SPEAKER_00]: Young Washington.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it was fresh.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it was awesome.
[SPEAKER_01]: I went to see it.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was awesome.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it leaned into that book a lot as a draft because a lot of the stuff about Sally wasn't as fleshed out prior to that book.
[SPEAKER_00]: interesting.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: My kid wants to see it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, yeah, I'm down.
[SPEAKER_00]: Great.
[SPEAKER_00]: Chris Pratt was on his Instagram.
[SPEAKER_00]: The other thing I'm afraid it was too.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, holy shit, it made 23 million opening weekend.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's it's really good.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they only stretched a couple of places on the history.
[SPEAKER_01]: What you know is hard to do.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's hard to you can't not dramatize something.
[SPEAKER_00]: or people come after you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like even in writing the St. James books, like the final ancients, and then she cries and all that stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: I remember I was off by like a town, like the creation is town by like three days.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Somebody was like that town didn't exist in 1863.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, oh god.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I looked up the dates and I was like, oh three days later, was officially a town.
[SPEAKER_00]: Fuck you, dude.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's a common.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm reading fucking comedies.
[SPEAKER_00]: If I can put Christmas New York Times best seller for Christ's people or not, but let's get into range for team.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because that project was not.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I've talked about this a little bit in the past, but for me personally, it started with a DM on Facebook from Jared Taylor, who had just finished watching a movie that I wrote directed, produced, and started on Netflix called FDR American Badass.
[SPEAKER_00]: great great moving and it was a it's not for most people all over the top well
[SPEAKER_00]: me, it was great.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was great.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was great fun.
[SPEAKER_00]: I enjoyed two beaches bought it too, by the way.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, oh, it's a ship.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's airing on Paramount Post right now.
[SPEAKER_00]: Congratulations.
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_00]: But these deals flip every year.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, it's going from Paramount Post to them and blah, blah, blah.
[SPEAKER_00]: But with that being said, at the end of the video is man, I got the scripts.
[SPEAKER_00]: I want you to do it.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I was just like, oh, Christ, man, I get enough of these fucking things about scripts and everything else.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it goes, we're veterans.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, oh, shit.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, Claim Crawford Knives, one of my best friends out in LA, he's currently starring on the agency right now and Chad Powers.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's double-dipping.
[SPEAKER_00]: And one of them shoots overseas, too, for Chris Seix, it's with Michael Fassbender.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, well.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: The ratings crush on the agency.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, Clay, he's good.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's great.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, when we were...
[SPEAKER_01]: I stopped watching Lee's a weapon after.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know, you know, I was like,
[SPEAKER_00]: sucked after that.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, here's the best.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: But him and I did all the veteran charities in Hollywood.
[SPEAKER_00]: So when they would ask us to host or show up or do anything, like it was kind of just us.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like Hollywood really does hate veterans.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that was kind of a theme before you got involved in this movie.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I, when you guys said it, I knew it because I was out there and I was in it at that point.
[SPEAKER_00]: We've go to these charity events and it wasn't a lot of people and I was like, God damn man, this is nuts.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then you had Gary Sinese.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Gary Sinese, though, had his own foundation and was just like, alright, I'm not doing this shit.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to do this my way in the right way and that guy is probably the greatest to ever do it for.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he was not a veteran.
[SPEAKER_00]: amazing amazing and and that everything you see in here about him it's all it's all hundred percent true it's like it's it's he's the greatest human being ever but he had a similar experience with force god i don't know if you know it but Mary Diggs new house is from his foundation you're kidding dude he I didn't know that it is so amazing what they did for Mary and James
[SPEAKER_01]: their the care the attention to detail like you know their nerds right to the and I'm married to a nerds so I'm not I'm not throwing shade here but their nerds on a different level and there are little things from all of their favorite games like built into the house
[SPEAKER_01]: It's all designed so that Mary can, you know, can do everything like that.
[SPEAKER_00]: There isn't the movie, she was the girl with no arms, by the way, in case you're out there listening.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep, and so the height of all of the counters is appropriate for her because of her arms.
[SPEAKER_01]: She doesn't have to bend down.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like the detail on this house and it's beautiful.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I want to sell my house and have Mary's house.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's, it's, it's, it's such.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was so impressive and the whole team,
[SPEAKER_01]: they're just, they're so good.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like very rarely am I just blown away by a nonprofit?
[SPEAKER_01]: Amazing.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's awesome, man.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's great to hear, because every single person was worth with Gary so the same thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's the best to do it.
[SPEAKER_00]: So when we started this film, I was like, all right, I got grabbed by that, and I was like, all right, I'll, I'll, I'll, wrote him back, and I said, hey, I'll read this tonight, and I'll get back to you tomorrow.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he was like, what?
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, yeah, I'll read it tonight and get back to you tomorrow.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I read the scripts.
[SPEAKER_00]: Thought it was terrible and I said, hey, there is something here because he sent me some videos of Matt some of the sketches they had done for for article 15 and and I go there is there's something here Yeah, let me fly out and I will rewrite this script with you and then kind of go through it and and Tell you what the changes need to be and I'll rewrite it for you and and everything else now at the time I didn't know they didn't have funding
[SPEAKER_00]: So yes, I remember your reaction when we were on the phone talking about I had no idea It's because I finished the script at that point and I turned it in I said look, this is only like it's it It's only taking two weeks to it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and so I rewrote the scripts and I give it back to him and and I go when you guys shooting is all we got to raise money And I was like what
[SPEAKER_00]: What's up?
[SPEAKER_00]: Because I'd cut my quote down to like nothing, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'd go, oh, but you're nothing for this.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he goes, I have nothing to this.
[SPEAKER_00]: And at that point, I'm assuming maybe he reached out to you, like how did that start with Ranger up in Article 15?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so when Article 15 started, I
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's odd and Matt even talked to me about this.
[SPEAKER_01]: He was like, man, I thought you were going to hate us because we were essentially a competitor and I've never really.
[SPEAKER_00]: You'd range her up.
[SPEAKER_00]: They'd article 15.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then there were other brands that had popped at Gronson style.
[SPEAKER_01]: But what I really appreciated about article 15 is they weren't like a, a range her up clone.
[SPEAKER_01]: they were so different, like, you know, the meat pony t-shirt, I don't know, just the stuff they did, it was they were unique and so very aggressive.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I loved it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so like Ranger up started sharing, you know, some of their videos.
[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's what led Jared to reach out to me and he was like, you know, he had, he had, like, man, thanks for sharing that stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, ah, you know, you guys are great.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we Jared and I had a relationship, you know, Jared is the biggest connector in human history.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Nobody knows more human being.
[SPEAKER_01]: He'll call anybody.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think a lot of rifle coffee wouldn't have it's like it wouldn't exist totally.
[SPEAKER_00]: I totally agree with you because I remember I think Evan Evan called Matt Matt didn't answer Evan called Jared Jared answered it flew out to meet Evan.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think we're hot tub for like 18 hours.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they became best friends and you know kind of the rest is his We were selling the coffee on the show and all that stuff
[SPEAKER_01]: But so Jared and I just started talking.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then one day he called me up and he's like, bro, I've got a really weird conversation I want to have.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he was like, you know, I'm like, yeah, okay, what's up?
[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, I've always wanted to make a movie.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, I've always wanted to make a movie.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like this is, this was a dream of mine since I was, you know, 11-12.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like as you know, one of the scenes has the song from something that I kind of sketched out when I was 14 or 15.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to
[SPEAKER_01]: That's how it started.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, we have this script, you know, from Billy Jay and Ross, and, you know, I was like, you know, who are these people?
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, oh, it's a friend.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then, you know, this, this director I really like and, you know, I'm hoping he'll do our stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: And, and so like that was my introduction to it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Then he sent me at the time it was called Zone 15.
[SPEAKER_01]: He sent me that script.
[SPEAKER_01]: you know, and, and then we started figuring out how we were going to do it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Is that how you guys went from zone 15 to range 15 because it was kind of a mix between Ranger up.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Article 15.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, listen, since it's going to be Ranger up in Article 15, why don't we make it range 15?
[SPEAKER_01]: And he was like, oh, that makes a lot of sense.
[SPEAKER_01]: I like that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Awesome.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so that was, that was it.
[SPEAKER_00]: He knew, he didn't even tell me why it was called zone 15.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because it was a different writer.
[SPEAKER_01]: That was arbitrary.
[SPEAKER_00]: God, it just it didn't there was no like grand grandiose title or anything.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, because usually people are married to their titles by the way.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if you know that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So having done multiple books and like you don't get to say really like it's like whatever is going to sell the thing is what it's going to be.
[SPEAKER_01]: But for for the story that worked really well like range 15 made
[SPEAKER_00]: But the title is important because you got to sell it and then work around that.
[SPEAKER_00]: One of the most famous stories from Hollywood was, there was a movie called Clover Field.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Big movie, huge movie, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Those two guys were driving over to the studio to pitch it.
[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't have a title for the script.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they got off on Clover Field Avenue right off the highway.
[SPEAKER_01]: No way.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then even the movie called Refield.
[SPEAKER_00]: I love it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: So shit like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the part you may or may not know is Jared and I, you know, once we had worked together, and we all, we all kind of had a script that we liked.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is before we started fundraising.
[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think you maybe you knew.
[SPEAKER_01]: You weren't like at the very, very beginning.
[SPEAKER_01]: I wasn't talking to you like every day.
[SPEAKER_01]: But Jared and I went to LA.
[SPEAKER_01]: and we tried to like sell this, you know, tried to write, you know, I did not notice.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah, we, we really, yeah, where did you guys go?
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't even remember.
[SPEAKER_00]: Did you go to like actual studios and shit?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, but like the the the the the best offer we got, like everybody said no.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, it was kind of like it was like so let me it was like let me get this straight.
[SPEAKER_01]: You don't say none of you guys have ever written a screenplay before none of you guys have ever been in a movie before none of you guys have ever produced a movie before none of you like you know yeah and and it's going to be like five leads is like you know so the only kind of quasi offer we got was this one
[SPEAKER_01]: sketchy looking, you know, like he had the gold chains and everything and he basically pitched.
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll rewrite your script.
[SPEAKER_01]: You guys can market it and we'll have John Claude Van Damme.
[SPEAKER_00]: Be in the movie.
[SPEAKER_00]: Be like the lead.
[SPEAKER_00]: Shut the fuck up dude.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And like we were, that's still might have been a cool movie.
[SPEAKER_01]: It might have been a great movie.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, John Cloud Van Dam just kicking.
[SPEAKER_00]: They see VD dude.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, by the time he's heads off, did you ever see, uh, sure that the, the series that he, I fucking love.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's great.
[SPEAKER_01]: I fucking love this.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's great.
[SPEAKER_01]: But anyway, so, so we asked a bunch of people that we thought, because we were like in our minds,
[SPEAKER_01]: It was like, man, like, ranger up is this multimillion dollar organization article 15 is in their first year, broke a million, we're get we got all these views, we got all these fans like here's our giant email list like this is this is something that should be an easy yes, but we were so far ahead of our time in terms of like the value of social media.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: That.
[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't understand that by the way, and they still don't.
[SPEAKER_00]: You were not talking before we came on the show, a lot of people still don't understand what podcasts are.
[SPEAKER_00]: When I go into these meetings for Hardee of Seltzer, I'm like, God damn it, man.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're kidding.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so we left LA pissed.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like we were fucking pissed.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think right about that time is the first time that I met you and we got on a call where Jared wanted you to be the director.
[SPEAKER_01]: And at that point, you were like, okay, but you guys don't have any funding like how are we going to pay for this?
[SPEAKER_01]: And I remember asking you, what's the bare minimum we need to do this?
[SPEAKER_01]: If you said 350 and we're going to have to change the script a lot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you couldn't have gotten, I'll put it this way.
[SPEAKER_00]: 350, you couldn't have got any famous actors, none of it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I would have been bare bones minimum.
[SPEAKER_01]: I get it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so, you know, we were, we were like,
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, this crowdfunding thing is new and it seemed, you know, it works for some people and super troopers too.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's just done it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just super troopers too had just done it and they had raised like 1.1 million or something.
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe more.
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't remember exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I was like, well, if they raised 1.1, we could probably raise 350 and so we looked at
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, man, if we do a trail, like we don't even know what this is the final version that this is gonna be.
[SPEAKER_01]: So how are we gonna do a trailer?
[SPEAKER_01]: We don't know who's gonna be in it.
[SPEAKER_01]: How are we gonna do a trailer?
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: So then, Jared and I were like, let's just do a skit, like we always do.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the skit will be about making a movie.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you were like, I don't wanna speak for you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you remember this conversation at all?
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't.
[SPEAKER_01]: You were like, ah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you were trying to be nice to us.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like it was very obvious we both knew it.
[SPEAKER_01]: You were like, listen guys, like...
[SPEAKER_01]: you guys are not super troopers and, you know, it's very hard.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you were being like a parent almost, like, this probably isn't going to go the way you think it's going to go.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm very conservative, uh, fiscally and, and all that other stuff, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm trying to, and I always try to temper expectations.
[SPEAKER_00]: I never over promised, yes, yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: Even as crazy as I am, I'm like, look, here's the real shit of this.
[SPEAKER_00]: And there's a lot of people that just don't want to hear it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: To your credit, you never, you were never like, don't do it.
[SPEAKER_01]: You were, you were like, listen, I'm rooting for you.
[SPEAKER_01]: And if you guys raise it, I'm on board.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_01]: But.
[SPEAKER_00]: The statistics were not on your side, the not on your side.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're like, it was almost like it's probably not going to work, guys, you know?
[SPEAKER_00]: No, because I had talked to the guy, I think it was Indiegogo.
[SPEAKER_00]: Was that it?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: I had talked to the guy.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, we're here.
[SPEAKER_00]: I worked there.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so I talked to the president and goes, I go, what's the maximum of them all that are the shit and he goes look?
[SPEAKER_00]: $40,000 is where we land on this out of all the projects and I go, okay, how hard is it to get past the 40,000?
[SPEAKER_00]: And it goes 90% of fundraisers under 40,000.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I go, oh, well, these guys are asking for like.
[SPEAKER_00]: $350,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to think there was somebody else that was in it and then other people called in and like you know we shot them separately like we shot Tim separately, we shot Leo Rhype trees separately and you know we shot this skit in a you know in a bar and you know we made this skit and we launched it and
[SPEAKER_01]: wanting one hours later, 18 hours.
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't remember exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: I have the screen.
[SPEAKER_00]: It had broken every record on Indiegogo.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: We raised it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then we were like, oh, shit.
[SPEAKER_01]: We need to come up with another gate because we could make a much bigger movie.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I told you, I go, you guys didn't get a lot of famous actors now.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: So,
[SPEAKER_01]: if you remember.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we face time to Marcus Lattrell and we were like, hey, man, uh, we just raised $350,000.
[SPEAKER_01]: And like, if we get to 500,000, is there any way you'd be in the movie?
[SPEAKER_01]: And he's just like, oh, fuck yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, but, uh, but.
[SPEAKER_01]: you have to kill me first.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: That was his stipulation.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know.
[SPEAKER_01]: I have to die first.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so we posted that, like literally the next day.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then we blew past 500,000.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then you were like, OK, this is fun.
[SPEAKER_01]: We need to get a real actor.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I can't remember, I think it was, if we got to 750.
[SPEAKER_00]: 750.
[SPEAKER_01]: 750.
[SPEAKER_01]: We would get an ALS to actor.
[SPEAKER_01]: But it was insane, the the the community rallying around us for that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've never seen it.
[SPEAKER_01]: To this day.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think there is a professional moment.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm more proud of Then us fighting through this whole thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't mean just that moment.
[SPEAKER_00]: By the way, I agree Everybody has been on movies and and should all the time and I'm like it was that one because
[SPEAKER_00]: The odds are stacked against you, you guys broke every rule of film making even after you got the money and I was like holy shit.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the response to even my parents to this day were like, hey, that's the project for most proud of.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was amazing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you pulled off.
[SPEAKER_01]: I appreciate it so much more now that I've produced a bunch of things.
[SPEAKER_00]: You get a production company?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because I've got a production company now, we should have failed.
[SPEAKER_01]: We should have failed so many times.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, so many times.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the number of times you looked at me and you're like, you sure you want to do this?
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, yeah, yeah, we'll get it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't worry, but don't worry, bro.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll figure it out.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, even after the fundraiser was over, and we were shooting the movie, you wanted more and more and more and more and more, and I go, hey, dude, you've got to find them on a somewhere and you go, I'll get it, I'll get it, I'll get it, I'll get it, I'll get it, I'll get it, I'll get it, I'll get it, I'll get it, I'll get it, I'll get it, I'll get it, I'll get it, I'll get it, I'll get it, I'll get it, I'll get it, I'll get it, I'll get it, I'll get it, I'll get it, I'll get it, I'll get it, I'll get it, I'll get it, I'll get it, I'll get it, I'll get it, I'll get it, I'll get it, I'll get
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but I remember, uh, you and I were calling each other as the fundraiser is going on.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm upstairs.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was a, writing in this, uh, it's called a frog here in North Carolina front room up of the garage.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's what it's short for.
[SPEAKER_00]: I, I walked down.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know that.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I go, that's what it was called.
[SPEAKER_00]: Really?
[SPEAKER_00]: No.
[SPEAKER_00]: I never heard that.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a, it's a North Carolina.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've got one of those.
[SPEAKER_01]: You got a frog.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I got a frog room.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but it's a North Carolina thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't, it's not everywhere.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so I walked down stairs and my wife was in the kitchen and I go,
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, so this thing is real like it's funded.
[SPEAKER_00]: She's like living all the way fun about it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so I was like we're gonna do this fucking movie and I got and she's like
[SPEAKER_00]: no way.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, that's just, it doesn't really make sense and I go, no, no, it doesn't.
[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I go, they, they pulled it off and we're going to do it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Once we got the, the full budget in, I think after that, we went up and, and started writing with all of us together up in Durham, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And was it a conference room?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we rented a, like a hotel conference room for two or three days or something.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it was like 14 or 15 of us in there.
[SPEAKER_00]: I remember it was massive.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, prior to that, you had done more.
[SPEAKER_01]: I had done more.
[SPEAKER_01]: We had gone back and forth.
[SPEAKER_01]: We had collected thoughts.
[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, you taught me a lot about a lot about screen plays.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because I had a bunch of things wrong.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because it wasn't what I was used to.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we got to a script that everybody kind of liked.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then we had that three-day conference where we kind of fought through all of the pieces of it.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then I think everybody was happy at the end of that.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then it was, uh, let's take this to casting.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's where we got to the first actors.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Where you guys' list was insane.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we're like, you're like Schwarzenegger.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're like, no.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like it was an axon this, the loan, no, no.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep, all of this happened.
[SPEAKER_00]: He for Sutherland, there was a flash.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then I was like, I'd really like to get William Shattner.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you reached out.
[SPEAKER_00]: I did, well, I don't know if you remember before, it was Chubby Chase.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so, Chubby Chase.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I knew his agent, and I said, hey dude, let me go to Chubby Chase first.
[SPEAKER_00]: Comedy God, obviously.
[SPEAKER_00]: community was either before afterwards or he was in the middle of it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think the community was after.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was after.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think so.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so I reached out and do you know the story when I met with his agent?
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if I know.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is a good one.
[SPEAKER_00]: So at night she cries was my agent was in New York.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was about to come out and other stuff and so it was up there doing meetings and Chevy Chase's agent called me and he said, hey.
[SPEAKER_00]: can i meet up with you and i go where are you and it's uh i'm in the York is that gonna be a problem and i go no actually i get a meeting for the books so i'm like i'm i'm good like i'm gonna be in town and it's great we come over and have lunch with me and i go yeah so uh i went over and had lunch with them and
[SPEAKER_00]: We're sitting there and I'm thinking he's going to say, yes, yes, he wants to take me to watch.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, instead, he's taking me to watch to say, no, and he goes, I hope you don't use this against our agency because we want other clients and in your movies and in this project and everything else.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I go.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's why you're taking me to lunch and he goes, yeah, and I go, okay, I respect that and thank you and all the stuff that I'm here anyways.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it wasn't going out of my way.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's much for free lunch.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I go, why do you want me here?
[SPEAKER_00]: And he goes, well, I kind of need to tell you about Chubby too, you know, and I go, what's the story and he goes, he's fucking rich.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I go, I figured, you know, I figured he's rich and he goes, he will do things like this, but he's got to love the script and he fucking hated it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm glad you didn't, I'm glad you didn't tell me that because I'm a bigger, you're fine out 10 years later, you know, a big Chevy Chase fan, and that's what I hurt me.
[SPEAKER_00]: So he's exact words where it was too crass, it was gross and he's like, I don't understand why you would make a movie like this, and and I said, look,
[SPEAKER_00]: This shit isn't for everyone and like I've gone through it before and I'm fine with it You know and and we ended up either another another client from their agency Yeah, and but he goes man.
[SPEAKER_00]: I just wanted to sit you down face to face because the offer was $150,000 Yep, for one day's work and he goes I've never
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, as an agent, turned down $150,000 for one day's work.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because his commission is 10%.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: $15,000.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, just gone in his pocket.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: One day, if Chabby does this fucking movie, and he goes, I want to chat with you to the god damn movie.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because I want the money too.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, and I go, no, I get it.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then I came back and said, hey, I think I just told you guys it's not going to work out.
[SPEAKER_00]: Chabby's not interested or doing something else.
[SPEAKER_00]: I remember you saying,
[SPEAKER_00]: I worried it very nicely because I knew we were going to cast the rest of this and I didn't want you guys to have a negative you did and you just you just I think you reminded us that the movie's way out there and not everybody's going to want to do it but somebody will that's what I remember and I go once you get the first person all the rest of the pieces were full.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so then I said, hey, who do you want?
[SPEAKER_01]: And he said, Wayne said, well, I'm shadowed.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think I can't remember if his agent said no, or there was something, but I was like, Oh, his agent said his exact words were, uh, he doesn't get out of bed for a 100,000 a day.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he goes, I don't think you have that.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I go, no, no, no, we have it.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he goes, oh, all right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, if you're serious, send the script over.
[SPEAKER_00]: And take a screenshot of the bank account, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Which I, on my phone, which I did.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so I sent that with the scripts and he goes, great.
[SPEAKER_00]: You'll have an answer tomorrow.
[SPEAKER_00]: Go in my read it tonight.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so he read it, said yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, you're forgetting a key component.
[SPEAKER_00]: Which one?
[SPEAKER_01]: He originally said no.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I had to write a letter.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh fuck, that's right to God dammit.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is why it shows like this are important.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because we are all under water.
[SPEAKER_01]: I still have it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: You have the letter you wrote to.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, not that I'm obviously not the one I sent.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, but yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Saved on your computer.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hell yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hell fucking crazy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hell yeah, because in the letter.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I am a huge fan of his, not for the reasons, like not because of Star Trek.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I like Star Trek, but like,
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought that he was so good as Denny Crane and Boston legal.
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was such a smart show, and I think he anchored it completely.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think you want a couple, I mean, it's worth it.
[SPEAKER_01]: He did.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I wrote him, and I also knew that he had done the legacy ride with the American Legion, and had donated his time to a bunch of veteran things.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I knew he cared.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like he wasn't just
[SPEAKER_01]: you know, an actor, even though he doesn't make that a big part of it.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I wrote him thanking him for doing that work with the American Legion, and I talked about how much I loved him as Denny Crane.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I didn't go to like Star Trek.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just, I was like, talked about the nuance, and I don't know if anybody else could have pulled it off, and whatever.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you were like, this isn't, he's like, you're like, this is a good letter Nick, but this shit, like no one writes a letter.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like this isn't a thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's why I forgot
[SPEAKER_01]: Nothing that we've done so far has been what other people do.
[SPEAKER_01]: So like, what's the worst that happens?
[SPEAKER_01]: And you were like, you know what, you're right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'll say no.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're like, I'll send it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then you called me back a day later and you were like, you're not going to fucking believe this.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_00]: Is it yes?
[SPEAKER_01]: And then he said, then he said, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I damn it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Again, this is why doing shows like this are important for you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there's been 10 years.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, which hurts a little bit.
[SPEAKER_00]: Does it?
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I mean, shit man, like, you know,
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I was about to turn 40, you know?
[SPEAKER_01]: And now I'm about to turn 50.
[SPEAKER_00]: And Jared and I are like 10 years apart almost exactly, so even for him.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think Jared just turned 40, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: He just turned 40.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we have the same birthday.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Holy shit.
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't know that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we have the same birthday.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm not Jared's birthday.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll tell you later.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll tell you later, just in case anybody tries to hack him.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's got people to do this.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, that's wild now.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's wild.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sean asked and called you after that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Correct.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that was one of the best stories ever.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's great.
[SPEAKER_01]: You called Jared and I at the same time.
[SPEAKER_01]: We did like a conference.
[SPEAKER_01]: You were like, you're not going to believe this.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'll let you if you Yeah, Sean asked and do it.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's the man.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's the man.
[SPEAKER_00]: By the way, so there's two stories from Sean asks in the movie that I love, that are my favorites.
[SPEAKER_00]: And to this day, one of them is still one of the coolest Hollywood stories of all time.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because you played the helicopter pilot in the movie.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep, pilot rigs me.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_00]: Originally, I think we sent the first offer, because we were trying to get one of these people to fall before that.
[SPEAKER_00]: But Reynolds, and his agents.
[SPEAKER_00]: Rest in peace.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know, but his agent was like, hey, he's sick.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I go, yeah, he would do it for sure.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, well, I mean, we're not shooting for like two months.
[SPEAKER_00]: So you're like, yeah, no, no, no, he's sick.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I, if memory serves me correct, he died within that year.
[SPEAKER_00]: So he was, he was going through whatever he was going through.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_00]: And was Sean Assen, he did it.
[SPEAKER_00]: And all of us were, were AMP to work with him.
[SPEAKER_00]: Amazing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hot ass day.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he was the helicopter pilot, no AC.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he had just run an Iron Man.
[SPEAKER_00]: He did.
[SPEAKER_00]: He finished the day before and they blew from Hawaii to LA to shoot the film.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we couldn't walk if you remember.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I told him, I go, hey, luckily you're playing the helicopter pilot.
[SPEAKER_00]: You don't have to walk at all.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're sitting in a goddamn helicopter.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it goes great.
[SPEAKER_00]: Can I wear sandals?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I go, yeah, you're going to wear sandals, because he said the blisters on his feet were.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, oh, he was on rough shape.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so I remember it was hot.
[SPEAKER_00]: And in between the takes, midway through the day, he starts reciting the speech from Rudy, running down the field.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_00]: Is that a 10?
[SPEAKER_00]: He's at the five.
[SPEAKER_00]: He was like, oh my God.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, all of us, dude, we're just in awe.
[SPEAKER_00]: And we weren't rolling.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_00]: Which, because it was, you know, we were on a break.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, fuck, man, that was the greatest coolest thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: And if you were here to see it, you'll never forget this the rest of your life.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it was one of the greatest things I've ever seen
[SPEAKER_01]: my wife is such a Lord of the Rings nerd that she's literally reading Lord of the Rings in French right now.
[SPEAKER_01]: Really?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she's like hardcore, loves it, listens to it all the time, reads it all the time.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so she was, you know, I wanted to get like a video of for her just saying like, hey, you know, hey guys, like to my family.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, hey, could you just say like, hey,
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, what are their names?
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, ah, I got a lot of kids, man.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, no, like, and so, you know, I told him all the names.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he, like, in his, he just goes, okay, you know, Jack, Matt, you know, he goes through all the names and like, in his head a few times the guy, I'm ready.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he does this, like, two minute video for my kids, names each one of them correctly.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, you know, your dad and I are working really hard out there, we're making a great movie, you know, we wish you were here, you know, but like he's going to be home soon and like and my like they all still have it.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's awesome.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it was so cool, um, just such a good dude.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm happy he's running sag now.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, yeah, he's a president of screen.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's the man.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's a president of screen actress guild.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, the one question I have for you.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he's still text everyone's in a while.
[SPEAKER_01]: Is it really?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I congratulated him on it.
[SPEAKER_01]: He was like, Nick, it's, you know, so great to hear from you.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I think I'm going to do great things and fight for you.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, he was, he's,
[SPEAKER_01]: Nice to see you, Debra.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, one question I had for you because I was running around directing and like checking video village.
[SPEAKER_01]: You were busy.
[SPEAKER_00]: What?
[SPEAKER_00]: What made what prompted him to give that speech to you guys in the helicopter?
[SPEAKER_00]: Because I wasn't in it.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was probably.
[SPEAKER_00]: I walked up as it was happening, but I don't know what happened before that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was some classic Jared and Matt bullshit, you know, where they were just like, hey.
[SPEAKER_00]: You remember Rudy?
[SPEAKER_00]: Remember Rudy?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: really.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then I just spattered off the whole piece.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know how they are.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're just like like having fun and and and I think he was like he's like, oh, let me see if I remember it and I think I think I think I don't want to I could be wrong, you know, but I think it was something like that.
[SPEAKER_00]: And because I walked up and heard it and I was like, whoa, dude, but I didn't.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, and immediately we had to go back and shoot.
[SPEAKER_00]: So like I didn't, yeah, I stayed listening to it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, holy shit, this is awesome.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then, but I never asked why.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, why did you do it?
[SPEAKER_01]: I think I think they prompted him a little bit.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no funny.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you don't have it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the best.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then the, the other story was shown in that set was it was a working helicopter.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was a working hell.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was real, then he goes, hey, is there any way you could drop me off at my house?
[SPEAKER_00]: At my house in the helicopter.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I go, where do you live?
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't even think it was just out in the Palestinians or whatever.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was, and I go from Pomona to the palace.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, man, that's like a fucking hour and a half.
[SPEAKER_00]: Drive with traffic, you know, because he was getting off right at rush hour.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it goes, man, it'd be great if you could find me back.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I go, look, the people on this helicopter, you can talk to them about it.
[SPEAKER_00]: It cannot be on our budget whatsoever.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what the fuck that cost.
[SPEAKER_00]: But also, the helicopter was wrapped for the day.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I was like, we're not using it.
[SPEAKER_00]: If they want to do it, they'll do it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he just traded, like, you know, to pictures with them and did something for their website or something.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the next thing I know, the helicopter's taking off.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he's just waving down on us at satin.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks a lot guys.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was awesome working with you.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like we just watched Sean asked him by the way before shooting another scene and I was like, what the fuck?
[SPEAKER_01]: What's happening right now?
[SPEAKER_00]: What is going on, man?
[SPEAKER_00]: That I have video of because I was just like no one will.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we were so naive that we just thought, well, this is the way things are.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you, you were the only one that actually had experience.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you were like, no.
[SPEAKER_00]: And Hollywood too, however like this Hollywood heard it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hollywood heard, he would just keep saying like, guys, this, you don't understand what you have right now.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know, man.
[SPEAKER_00]: You don't know what you have and then I'll never get as good as that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I agree.
[SPEAKER_01]: Even, you know, even if we do it again, which would be a lot of fun, but even if we do it again, it's, we've all changed, you know, not in a bad way, but like, but like, you know, at the time,
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we didn't have a lot of like we weren't having routine Hollywood exposure, you know, now, you know, Jared and, and matter, you know, they have all a great for coffee, you know, you've had all these people.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know, I'm involved in a bunch of crap and DC, like it's we're all different people now, so like the wonder, I think is gone a little bit.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: But also, you know what you're doing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's also another components where you probably be better out at the next time.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because you do know what you're doing, however, with the excitement be there because nothing is new anymore.
[SPEAKER_00]: You've been through it.
[SPEAKER_01]: It would still be, I think it'd still be great.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think we would all still have fun, but I agree with you completely.
[SPEAKER_01]: The product would be way better now because we actually understand what has to happen.
[SPEAKER_00]: And where you spend the money?
[SPEAKER_01]: And where we spend the money.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll go back to Shatner.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that was 100,000 for the day.
[SPEAKER_00]: was one 15th year budget.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think at that time.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was a lot.
[SPEAKER_00]: Sean Assen was not cheap.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, none of not of them were cheap.
[SPEAKER_00]: Danny Treho.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Good tour.
[SPEAKER_01]: They were cheaper than they needed to be, you know, like they all
[SPEAKER_00]: They took a bro disc count.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they took a bro disc count because of veterans and and and all the stuff they were all very cool key David Key David, who else am I missing?
[SPEAKER_00]: Jim O'Hare was already said.
[SPEAKER_01]: He said Danny Trey.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Any trail.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Jim O'Hare was the move from Parks and Rack.
[SPEAKER_01]: And not for nothing, but Liro Petri and Clint Romashay, like that was an epic scene, and they didn't have to do that.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then there was like a million UFC fighters in the background for most of the scenes.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_00]: Keith Jardine was actually in the show about six months ago promoting another movie.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's doing great and there's their professional stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: There is not like 180 movies.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they're in a crazy crazy.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's not a nicer person that looks scarier like you know, like if you were going to make a graph like how scary do they look how nice they are.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's like the one, you know, dude that's out here because he looks like he might just kill you for no reason like you look at him wrong.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then you talk to him and it's like, Hey, man, it's really nice to meet you know, it's it's really my pleasure.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, when he was in the show six or eight months ago, whenever that was, I let off, I go Keith, man, you've lost so much in your career and you just kept getting your ass beat dude, I go, how is it feel just doing movies now?
[SPEAKER_00]: We don't have to, there's no pressure of you us here or anything anymore.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because he is that nice and he's like mother fucker.
[SPEAKER_00]: Really fun.
[SPEAKER_01]: God damn it and I go,
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what you were getting.
[SPEAKER_00]: When you came on at this fucking show, lovely, lovely human being and he's fucking great, but you had all these people, you had all these shits.
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't forget we had Brian Stan and Mike Goldberg commentating the actual UFC commentators at the time.
[SPEAKER_01]: at the actual UFC commentators commenting, commentating Tim Kennedy versus Randy Kittler.
[SPEAKER_00]: Randy Kittler and the fight scene and I mean, I think now we can get into the pricey shit that you guys just fucking blew away.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, let's talk about all the money we wasted.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, let's talk about the ring first since she's brought that up.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what?
[SPEAKER_01]: Would the movie be as good without the ring?
[SPEAKER_01]: It wouldn't.
[SPEAKER_00]: No.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, look.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think you were correct in that decision.
[SPEAKER_00]: I just don't know how you were going to find the money.
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't either.
[SPEAKER_01]: So when I called, I had a lot of confidence in me.
[SPEAKER_00]: When I was producing it, I called and I said, you sure did.
[SPEAKER_00]: When I called, then I was producing, I go, hey, there were the only people in town with this fucking ring, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: I think we got this math.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: But if you ruined the math, it's $15,000.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I go, oh, yeah, no worries.
[SPEAKER_00]: They came out and picked up the mat after the shoot.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they were, I mean, I could hear that it was shot in this forest, I was off to the side.
[SPEAKER_00]: I could hear them screaming.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I just go, oh my God, dude, and I walk over there.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they were like, what the fuck?
[SPEAKER_00]: That somebody slaughtered pigs on this fucking mat.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's so much goddamn blood.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, I go, hey, guys, it's fake blood.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it'll come out.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they knew, like, they knew Hollywood and they were like, this is coming out.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, fucking corn syrup and and you know the red dice shit and it goes fucking coming out You're paying for the fucking that, you know, and I was like, all right I'll pay for the mad and then after the shoot All right, yeah, I did come out to you and I go hey Nick You bought that mad so you own it now and you're gonna have to pay them 15,000 dollars and you said the same thing You're gonna yeah, but it was worth it fucking worth it, dude and I go All right, man, all right
[SPEAKER_00]: It was, I think at that point you had at least like the dick, Evan's dick.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was what $10,000.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was $14,000.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: $14,000.
[SPEAKER_01]: But you have it now.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's in a box.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: We've got to wrap up.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was on set for a while if I'm not YouTube was dingin' us for it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Really?
[SPEAKER_01]: Really.
[SPEAKER_01]: And put the dick back on the side.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: That sucks, man.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know.
[SPEAKER_00]: But it was realistic.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was great.
[SPEAKER_00]: Shit.
[SPEAKER_00]: Even the midget.
[SPEAKER_00]: He was famous.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, from Pirates of the Caribbean.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, blah, blah, blah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Martin Club, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, everybody.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he was great.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that motherfucker drove away in a Corvette.
[SPEAKER_01]: He was it was it a Corvette?
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't remember if it was a Corvette, or if it was an SS, a Camaro.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not a car guy.
[SPEAKER_00]: So you'd be the one to know that, but I just don't remember his fiance was six feet tall.
[SPEAKER_01]: and he was a man and absolutely beautiful.
[SPEAKER_00]: She was a fucking supermodel.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he, but he climbed into that thing and he had like a adjusted seat where the pedals popped up from.
[SPEAKER_01]: That guy was a baller.
[SPEAKER_01]: He was awesome.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was hilarious.
[SPEAKER_00]: Awesome.
[SPEAKER_00]: It wore a leather jacket, more like jeans, and a tank top.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I also remember, like a lot of the stuff he did.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like he did stuff that wasn't even like directed.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I can't remember if you told him to throw the dick.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, he did that on his own.
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought he threw the dick at Evan on his own.
[SPEAKER_00]: That on his own.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then Evan's last sentence.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then Evan had to improv.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, oh, god, I just should be, you know.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was on his own, and he was fucking hilarious to work with, and he was awesome.
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, that dick, when they ripped the head off a rainy couture, we had to get a fake head.
[SPEAKER_00]: Randy was cool enough to sit for that, because like, oh, hey dude, this is a plaster cast.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to have to go in, we're not paying him for this extra day to go in and get this fucking
[SPEAKER_01]: Randy and it's in the, I can't remember if it's in the documentary or if we didn't put it in the documentary, but he had, he, he was sitting on the back of that pickup truck covered in blood with him.
[SPEAKER_01]: And, uh, and he just goes, man, I am so envious of you guys.
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you remember this?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just goes, I'm so envious of you guys, and we were like, what the fuck are you talking about?
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you're Randy Kator, you were just in the expendables, and he goes, man,
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, you know, like you do the expandables and for like six months, it's awesome.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then I did the expandables too and for like three months, it's awesome.
[SPEAKER_01]: And everybody's like, oh yeah, yeah, it's like, but this fucking movie, and he's just looking around at all the ridiculousness.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, this is gonna live forever.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like this is just gonna be one of those films that like, you know, 50 years from now, some old veterans is gonna be like,
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and it was like that was one of the coolest moments and it's true.
[SPEAKER_00]: By the way, we're 10 years in now.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I get stopped all the time for it for vending ham.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll do that all the time and it's it's a blast.
[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody who loves that movie.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, they're one of us.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're like, very cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: And even like young guys, they'll be like, I know you from somewhere.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, some kid that's like 25, 20, 28.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, ah, you know, like Ranger Up or this, or I've, you know, I've done a few things.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, no, no, like were you in, were you in that zombie movie?
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, like, like, yeah, guilty is charged.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, dude, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you know they're a homie, we're like, cool.
[SPEAKER_00]: Cool.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, let's see, cause wise.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the head was the songs that the brandy contours had was I think 20 grand or 25 kids.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was a lot.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that was another one.
[SPEAKER_00]: The ring was 15.
[SPEAKER_01]: The deck was expensive because you came to us and you were like, do we need to rip off the head or could we just?
[SPEAKER_00]: doing posts.
[SPEAKER_01]: Can we just and we're like now we need Ross we need to read.
[SPEAKER_01]: We got a rib off the head.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is very important not having any idea what we were talking to.
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you know where the head is now?
[SPEAKER_01]: I have the head.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you do.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I had to fight for all that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, now we can get into it now, before we get into the songs.
[SPEAKER_00]: Someone stole all of the props from Rains 15 and tried to sell them online.
[SPEAKER_01]: They were selling them online.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you said, fuck these people, I'm gonna track them down.
[SPEAKER_01]: I did.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you did.
[SPEAKER_00]: You found them.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you were like, hey, man, like this happens all the time.
[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't walk off set with stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, this is bullshit.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, we paid a lot of money for this stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: And this woman, I'll give her credit.
[SPEAKER_01]: She ultimately did the right thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: But at first, it was like, you know, we bought this fair and square and I'm like, I don't know, you bought it from, but like,
[SPEAKER_01]: you know and then come to find out it was like they didn't buy it it was thrown away which means probably somebody per put it in a dumpster and then they immediately pulled it out but but um they had all kinds that's that's where the dick ran these heads and a ton I have boxes you know which we should do something with at some point but I have boxes of uh movie worn costumes oh no shit just just I mean I'm talking about like
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I've got some of the nice ones where it's like labeled.
[SPEAKER_01]: Remember the where we each had our, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
[SPEAKER_00]: That's crazy, man.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because when you do these gigs, sometimes something will mean something to you, where you're like, all right, I'm going to take this, this one thing, whatever it was, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Like my first movie, I took the jacket that I was wearing.
[SPEAKER_00]: What was Jack in every single scene?
[SPEAKER_00]: So I still have it to this day.
[SPEAKER_00]: But that was it, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: And same with the most of these films, there's usually one item that you're like, yeah,
[SPEAKER_00]: This will be cool and I'll keep this and it's rare that somebody throws that entire box full of shit and tries to resell it online for Christ.
[SPEAKER_01]: That was shitty, but we also had some questionable people on.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: We had some great ones.
[SPEAKER_00]: We had some great ones, questionable ones, but, and also that's, that's Hollywood too.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's where it's just like, man, the amount of people you work with in the entertainment industry, and then they've got their own fucking mindset that they were gyps, are they, they deserved more money than what they were getting paid or whatever the thing was.
[SPEAKER_01]: And at the end of the day, you look back and you're like, no, no, you aren't like, you were paid.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm thinking of that exactly what you were supposed to be.
[SPEAKER_00]: I've got a million of those people that I've worked with over the years, where it was just like, hey, dude, you asked for X amount of dollars that you're selling.
[SPEAKER_00]: We have got paid.
[SPEAKER_00]: We have a contract.
[SPEAKER_01]: You've been paid for all of this.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think I want more.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, but later on, let like after it's over.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I don't know if we want to talk about it, but we did have that issue where we had to pay a certain.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, uh, uh, uh, in a lawsuit, there's a couple lawsuits in that way.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, not the lawsuit.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, we had to pay the, uh, one of the directors.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's a wreck.
[SPEAKER_01]: What's yeah, if you remember, some are all of our stuff got held hostage, if you remember.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yes, yes, yes, the art director, the art director.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because he had found I guess the campaign online or something else like it.
[SPEAKER_00]: He goes There's a much quicker budget instead of wasn't it go.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, I don't think you understand like Pit's shatter $100,000 for say all the actors and everything.
[SPEAKER_00]: I go.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think we got all these famous actors Yeah, they didn't know what to them.
[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't all go to you are getting the exact same salary You make on every fucking movie just because you saw some fundraiser doesn't mean you're gonna take advantage of these guys Yeah, but they did
[SPEAKER_00]: because I'm full, I'll take the truck, man, took the truck in the middle of the night.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hi, Jack, everything.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, Jesus Christ, but again, this shit happens all the time, where it's like, these contracts are done way in advance.
[SPEAKER_00]: And what are you going to do?
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't care if it's in podcasts and movies, TV shows, whatever it is, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the thing, people don't understand, because I think, and I don't, I could be wrong, but if I remember correctly, our average day burn rate was 55Gs.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: One day.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so, if the truck wasn't back with all the props,
[SPEAKER_00]: You would have lost $55,000.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we would have eventually got the props back in three, four days, you know, but that would have made 55 times.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, that's right.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we had, we basically had to get extorted.
[SPEAKER_00]: And by the way, that still goes on with these fucking people.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't understand.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, it's kind of like NFL players.
[SPEAKER_00]: You sound a contract for something.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_00]: You were paid.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: What you asked to be paid, and now you're asking for more later, sorry, man, life doesn't work like.
[SPEAKER_01]: Then we had the guy that just ran the drill right next to us.
[SPEAKER_01]: You remember that?
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, like the saw.
[SPEAKER_00]: The saw.
[SPEAKER_00]: There was one warehouse downtown that we were shooting at.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he just had five saws going at the same time.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that was his grift every single movie.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: They shot a lot of fucking movies out of their MTV shows.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm talking like West Wing.
[SPEAKER_00]: massive shit.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then they would go over, you'd have to pay the guy in cash.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you're like, what's this envelope you keep holding?
[SPEAKER_00]: And I go, well, that's the Oh, shit.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to have to.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to have to bribe people.
[SPEAKER_00]: Preze these fucking guys.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to, you know, every fucking day.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you're like, there's no way it works like this.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I go, it does.
[SPEAKER_00]: Unfortunately, it is.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because we're in LA.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: But that's everywhere, too, where it's just like shit.
[SPEAKER_00]: The old some of it now or people I don't think I was paid fairly was like you got paid what you asked you gave us a quote yes, and I go we have CPS for all this shit It's the executed checks.
[SPEAKER_00]: We paid you what you asked like I
[SPEAKER_00]: I, you can't ask for more money, your later, if whatever the fuck it is, you thought you were worth, like, sorry, what do you think, fucking Tom Brady's going back, asking for more money after when, you know what, looking back on it, I won seven Super Bulls, you should have paid me more.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's not how it works.
[SPEAKER_01]: Not how it works.
[SPEAKER_00]: Sorry, man.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to talk about the negative part of it because,
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, it wasn't many, I wasn't too much.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I do want to give props to Greg Jackson for, uh, flying out and finishing the stunts.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was great.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because there was another stunt guy who wanted more money and it was just like, hey, dude, same thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think you found your fundraiser online and it was just like, oh, I deserve more.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, no, I don't think he would, I don't think he, if I remember correctly, wasn't a matter of, of him being, you know, shady like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was speed.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he was like he wanted to do things a certain way and that that didn't fit with you.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I remember.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I remember.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the other thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: So he was treating it like it was a, you know, big budget $100 million.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I think he was like a good person.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think there was any.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't remember having too many issues other than saying, hey, dude, this shot that you need eight hours for.
[SPEAKER_00]: I need this in an hour because this isn't a fucking $100,000,000 movie.
[SPEAKER_00]: You were spending three days on your shot.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think to that point, by the way, I'm glad you brought this up.
[SPEAKER_00]: The most beautiful shot in the movie is the one in Vegas.
[SPEAKER_00]: where the planes fly over Jared and Jesse and they're waving the smoke or things in the air whatever and uh uh somebody asked me about it there were like man that was the most cinematic shot of the movie and everything else and I go I know because we'd one entire day.
[SPEAKER_00]: to shoot 30 seconds and that's what you get on a big budget movie.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: But that scene was we shot in Vegas because the guy that Jared was friends with had the planes out there and he goes, hey, I'll fly real low.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's illegal, but I'll do it for you.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, whatever the fuck it was.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, are you cool?
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a beautiful shot.
[SPEAKER_00]: Beautiful shot.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's the best in the movie, but that's what a big budget movie is.
[SPEAKER_00]: Were you get, you get one day to shoot a 30 seconds?
[SPEAKER_01]: We had no time.
[SPEAKER_00]: None.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I remember like we were very proud that we shot the whole thing in 19 days or whatever it is that shot it in and there were a bunch of people that were like that's not the brag you think it is because you know you should have shot two pages a day not you know 12 and it was like you know what man like we did the best we could with the money we have like yeah I also would love to have shot you know the rock.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right out, but, but a movie like the rock or Jurassic Park six, eight months because you're getting 30 seconds a day versus hey, we got to get seven, eight minutes a day as what I think I told you before we started.
[SPEAKER_00]: In order to achieve this budget and everything else and everybody was on board and it was great.
[SPEAKER_01]: And there were there were dark times where you were like, you know, we were behind a little bit and you were worried about it and, you know, conditions weren't right.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then like I got to give props to the community once again,
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, if you remember the Humvee crapped out the day that we needed to film it was fine all the time, but then the day we needed to film the Humvee, it crapped out and we had no way to jump start it.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we we had the the five ton or the doosana have we had doosana have
[SPEAKER_01]: But we didn't have a slave cable and we kind of posted about it in the drinking bros community like is there anybody that can help and basically four marines went a wall, stole a slave cable, drove out to us, jump started it, left the slave cable with us.
[SPEAKER_01]: They were like, hey, we'll we'll come back and you know, whenever you're done like don't tell anybody and like if it wasn't for those marines like,
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what we were going to do.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to got that scene.
[SPEAKER_00]: We wouldn't have to push the car.
[SPEAKER_00]: We would have to push the Humvee.
[SPEAKER_01]: But we drove the Humvee through a fence if you remember.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like we needed it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so there were so many things like that where.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's why the movie was so special, because there was so much help and everybody wanted to help, and it was all veterans and besides, because the other people I'm talking about the way we're Hollywood assholes, those are the guys that were holding the hostage, the truck hostage.
[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't you guys, or veterans or anything.
[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, that's why that movie to me was so special, because that just doesn't happen.
[SPEAKER_00]: Usually the answer is, hey dude, we'll go home and figure this out tomorrow, and it's like very cool you're over budget, you're over budget, you're over budget, you're over budget, and then your whole project would have blown up and there's nothing you could do about it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Get half a movie shot, you're fucked.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then afterwards, I remember going to the ramp party, I'm exhausted.
[SPEAKER_00]: Smoked.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it was 18 hour days because we would shoot for roughly 14 and then you when I would have meetings for usually two hours afterwards about budget scripts.
[SPEAKER_00]: What we're going to do the next day.
[SPEAKER_01]: And every time I mean, be like, we're so screwed on this and I'm like, and I'd be like, when's it do?
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: 30 days.
[SPEAKER_00]: 30 days.
[SPEAKER_00]: I got you.
[SPEAKER_00]: That 30 on these payments.
[SPEAKER_00]: But then I had drive an hour back to Hollywood from Pomona.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then get up and do the whole thing and also my wife was in it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_00]: And she was great.
[SPEAKER_01]: She was the best actor in the whole thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: She was fantastic.
[SPEAKER_00]: But there was one scene she's on here today.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we have a date tonight, so we're good.
[SPEAKER_00]: But there was one scene where she was asking me about, no, it's something, and I...
[SPEAKER_00]: I've got a million things going on, and I go, you're the fucking one professional actor in this, and I go, figure the fuck out, okay?
[SPEAKER_00]: I...
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying to fucking, I'm trying to get somebody to make a dick for under $15,000.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's an hour away.
[SPEAKER_00]: The dick was supposed to be there, like, two hours.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they're sending screenshots of his penis.
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't forget the dick showed up, and it was way darker than Evan.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it was a black dick.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it was just to the head to paint it.
[SPEAKER_01]: You don't wait in the cycle.
[SPEAKER_01]: Make this look like a, it's dick.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just I'm like oh shit dude and there's 160 people running around and I was like I damn dude.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and in the rap party, you know, the rap party is usually out of control and all that shit Not everything else.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you and I are just so exhausted and just sit there and I think you and I Where do the ones who are married?
[SPEAKER_00]: So, you and I were just like, yeah, dude.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I think Rocco was on the tail end of his preview.
[SPEAKER_00]: One, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: You and I were just like, but I want to go home.
[SPEAKER_00]: I remember doing like nine fireball shots, and then, yeah, all right, yeah, I can't.
[SPEAKER_00]: I risked buying everybody on the way out and just sleeping for like three days straight.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that was, it was a ride, man.
[SPEAKER_01]: And if I had to stay one extra day,
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, like the footage or something like there was something I had to do with all the footage.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you'd render it out.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: That that render which Luke, you know, those renders still to this day.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a lot faster now.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: But those renders back then took an entire day.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because of the drives and all that of the shit and it was just so fucking tedious, and I said, look, you've got to leave with your own copy of the drives.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm going to fire safe.
[SPEAKER_00]: I will keep the other ones that way.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're still in my safe.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know because my office burns down.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_00]: We just lost an entire film.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_00]: So you had to take those drives and then go.
[SPEAKER_01]: There was no cloud.
[SPEAKER_00]: no cloud.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's nothing.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think the drives were like a brick.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of parts.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of self-circuit.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was like the size of a fucking stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: Pack a heart of death.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Here you go.
[SPEAKER_01]: Which by the way, is a great seltzer.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, thank you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Jesus Christ.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the product placement, the movie.
[SPEAKER_00]: We had, like.
[SPEAKER_00]: Was it rip it, lead slingers?
[SPEAKER_00]: No, kill clif, kill clif was the big one.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, kill clif was huge for us.
[SPEAKER_00]: But if you were as black rifle wasn't even a thing, like it wasn't bigger.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we had already signed a coffee company for it.
[SPEAKER_01]: and then they started black rifle afterwards now so they were like could we yet black rifle I was like, yeah, we're the shirts and stuff, but like we have a coffee company and they're like, yeah, yeah, but but article 15 was way bigger at that point black rifle coffee was was like their side project
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because we were doing on the show.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it was free and gross when we were selling on the shelf.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it wasn't even black rifle.
[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't even black rifle.
[SPEAKER_00]: No.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but yeah, it was a bunch of product placements.
[SPEAKER_00]: You and I had to raise more money afterwards.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: And up going to was it South Carolina?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, Paul.
[SPEAKER_01]: Paul Meadows State Defense.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_00]: And shot some inserts.
[SPEAKER_01]: We had already, you know,
[SPEAKER_01]: we basically shot an insert for the gear up montage and where we we built a wall and we hung a bunch of their weapons all over the wall and put the big PSD in the middle and we shot that insert which we then added and they were very good to us and that they were great with that help pay for the music.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's see what gets you now.
[SPEAKER_00]: So not only do we go through the entire budget or over budget, I think I want to say by maybe a quarter million dollars, which is a lot of money.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that sounds about right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then afterwards, you were like, you know what I'd love to have in this.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, not afterwards.
[SPEAKER_01]: I told you from the beginning.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but I go.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, dude.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's not positive.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: You just kept saying it's not positive.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not possible.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm stopped.
[SPEAKER_00]: What a wonderful world by Louis Armstrong.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I go, dude.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was some 100,000 dollars.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was something that I kind of sketched out when I was 14 or 15.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, man, this would be a great action.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_01]: you know, and this goes back to like I wish we had had more time to shoot out the action sequence, but we were on action sequences take three, four days.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I didn't know that at the time, you know, but any it worked out great.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's if you remember in theater, everyone started laughing as soon as the first note hit.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, you know, they were like, because it was so
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, that told you I go, hey dude, this is going to be a hundred and that was always my gas going in and so I go maybe we can throw the veteran part out of you.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're right.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was a hundred.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I go, hey, dude.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to have to do that.
[SPEAKER_00]: So whatever.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I go, can you name a movie that it's from?
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think you said, good morning, Vietnam.
[SPEAKER_00]: Was that the only movie it was in?
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and again, I go, I'm going to throw the better and cut everything out of it and I think it was universal.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so we got that you did get them down.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think I did.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think they originally said 150 or 200 and you got them down to 100.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that song was 100.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then the other song that you wanted, which was another great pick was was the baby come back.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, baby come back.
[SPEAKER_01]: That was not me.
[SPEAKER_01]: That was 35 or 50.
[SPEAKER_00]: uh... i want to say thirty five or thirty i think um... yeah and i know we paid the first half and we still owed i think i think the day before day off so i told this story on another show uh... i remember the premiere was it i think it eight's that night's uh... and universal called and they said hey we need to their other half of this payment for uh... what a wonderful world yeah
[SPEAKER_00]: Like if we don't get this, we're going to sue and block your movie from being in theaters.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you had gotten the money over and I go, hey, dude, this is going to be my five o'clock.
[SPEAKER_00]: I get a wired and everything else, blah, blah, blah, blah, and it went through it for 50.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that sounds right.
[SPEAKER_01]: That sounds right.
[SPEAKER_00]: That sounds right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Then I left my office, my production office, and I went home, showered, got Jesse.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then we met you guys at the premiere.
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't remember if if Ranger up just lent it, or if we got payments that came in.
[SPEAKER_01]: later on no for like for that last 66 gay payment or whatever.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I by the way, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: I just know that I sat in my fucking office and I'm why I'm wiring this shit out.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm hoping to go through through on time to the point where I was worried that it wasn't going to hit the account on time.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I took a screenshot on my computer.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, I remember
[SPEAKER_00]: And send it to them and I said, Hey, here's the confirmation number.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is sent in through.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't want to hear anything about the fucking premier night and everything else.
[SPEAKER_00]: The money is there and they accepted it.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's, and but when I got to the premiere that night.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was fucking exhausted and, you know, I'm working all day long.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if we're gonna get sued.
[SPEAKER_00]: I have no idea and got, got home.
[SPEAKER_00]: Showered, shaved, grabbed my wife, got to...
[SPEAKER_00]: This is the Fort Bragg premiere, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: This was the one it's in LA.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, the LA process, like the, at the, at the, the big one, the best.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I was like, which, by the way, one of the best nights of my life on blue.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I remember, and this is just, I remember being extremely nervous that my folks were going to be watching this movie, because it's so far out there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's so out there.
[SPEAKER_01]: And, um,
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you and I were running around doing stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't even know that I had like a regular seat, but my parents sat with Clinton Romeshay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, so the whole night goes on.
[SPEAKER_01]: We finish, we do all, we do our thing in the front.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then I finally catch up to my parents.
[SPEAKER_01]: And my parents are both like crying laughing.
[SPEAKER_01]: And...
[SPEAKER_01]: uh... my mom is like crying laughing and she's like i loved it it was so stupid and my dad goes you know like not only not only did it bring me back to a time i had because he's a Vietnam veteran not only did it bring me back to a time that i had completely forgotten about like just the camaraderie of you know in the stupidity of the guys but like
[SPEAKER_01]: Clint was so awesome and I was so blown away to be sitting next to this really nice kid who is a Medal of Honor recipient and you know, really made it like a special moment.
[SPEAKER_01]: And meanwhile, I'm sitting there going, oh, God, they're going to hate it, you know, because even though we're old, you still look at your parents a different way.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, oh, like they never, they were never 20, you know, they were never, they were never silly.
[SPEAKER_01]: But it was such a, it was such a good night
[SPEAKER_01]: Everyone appreciate it and not that everybody loved our movie, but but like we did it like I knew at that moment.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was like whatever happens from here
[SPEAKER_01]: Like we somehow did this.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I remember, because I went out to the theaters after that all over the nation and the theaters, yeah, it took, which another shout out to the drinking bros community.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because, you know, Susie took that on of like coordinating, I don't know if you remember this, but Susie coordinated all of the statewide drinking bros into like we had a range 15 for every state.
[SPEAKER_01]: and there was a leader for every state from the drinking bros community.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they pushed people to go on.
[SPEAKER_01]: So for those of you guys that don't know, tugs gone now.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's not like I'm repented or anything.
[SPEAKER_01]: But it was this thing where we couldn't afford to pay to be in theaters.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we're not a big studio.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you know, you don't just get in.
[SPEAKER_01]: So what we did was we bought out Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday nights.
[SPEAKER_01]: and in order for it to stick, you had to sell a certain number in each one.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it was 50% of the seats in the theater.
[SPEAKER_00]: Something like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the drinking bros basically took it on themselves to make sure that it happened in their area.
[SPEAKER_01]: And in some cases, people even bought like 10 tickets just to make sure that it was done.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we ended up opening in 635, 645.
[SPEAKER_01]: which is comparable to any big movie in the country.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like the only, it was the 650 screens.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: The only movie that gets like a thousand are big movies.
[SPEAKER_01]: Big big, big budget movies, you know, Barbie and whatnot.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we opened in more theaters than like we could have ever dreamed of.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it was all because of the drinking bros community, which is still like one of the coolest things.
[SPEAKER_01]: And
[SPEAKER_01]: you know, a couple of the ladies from drinking bros, which I will always appreciate.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you remember a year later, and I think you have your books, I'm sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: They made books that during the tug premieres, they had everybody that went to the theater sign them, and they built these two volume set that they sent to all of the main characters and Ross that had everybody that went to all of these theaters, as well as notes from the movie, and it was one of the nicest things anybody's ever done for.
[SPEAKER_00]: I will say this, that is the nicest gift that I've ever received.
[SPEAKER_00]: Ever from any film that I've ever done, any TV show, and I think, and it is stashed away in my house throughout all the moves and everything else, and I will have that forever.
[SPEAKER_00]: The other great thing about this was, with my parents, I would invite them to the premieres and all this other stuff, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: They were like, hey, you didn't invite us to the premier and I go.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, because it's going to be screening in your backyard.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I go, you're going to be able to go down the street and just go see it.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they lived in a small town in Florida.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they go really, yeah, and I go, yeah, yeah, it's like, you know, everybody's buying tickets and all this other stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then I go, I think it's better if you watch it with them versus us.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because then you're going to get an honest reaction plus.
[SPEAKER_00]: I would love to hear what the reaction was, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: And they were kind of confused and then it really get it.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then they went and showed up.
[SPEAKER_00]: movie theater sold out it's in the small town of Florida and everybody was like oh my god we love your son yeah and they got to sit in a theater with real people yeah not you know yeah not a cultivated friend group that's gonna tell you oh this is the best thing you've ever done Ross right and not in Hollywood not in all that other bullshit and they got to sit there and then they stayed an hour and a half afterwards and told my parents how much this movie had meant to them.
[SPEAKER_00]: and how they donate it and then thing and it's like I'll begin emotional talking about it because like to this day my parents have said this is the best thing you've ever done not you know because of the film itself but of the community hundred percent and and you will never get that community around a film.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I'm sure Star Wars fans have it or whoever, right, in the sci-fi space, lower the rings or whatever, but for a zombie military movie, to mean so much to so many people all over the nation and play for I think it was like four or five months and theaters.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was a high discrossing independent movie of 2016.
[SPEAKER_00]: They will never forget that the rest and to this day, that is the one film they talk about.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's it.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think it's because they got to have that moment where they weren't at a red carpet thing where it's, you know, your agent and publicist is telling you to do this and this and this.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and we said it, we said, you know, if you watch the documentary, not a war story, which
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought did a really good job of showing how stressful it was for all of us and how how it used to get it done.
[SPEAKER_01]: But one of the things that we said is that the movie is not for everybody.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's for the community.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that was something that I don't, I don't think people really had ever done anything like that before.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't either.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like super troopers, you know, you already know what that was.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know what it was.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're, you're donating to the sequel.
[SPEAKER_00]: This, you just had a trust and trust that we weren't going to screw it up.
[SPEAKER_00]: Some, some YouTubers and, uh, and a guy from the new guy wasn't going to fuck it up.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: So.
[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, winning the GI Film Festival, Best Picture, did not expect that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I mean, all the other movies were very serious and very like, you know, PTSD, PTSD.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna kill myself.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and then we won that, but like the biggest thing, I think raising the money was a big deal, making the movie was a big deal.
[SPEAKER_01]: There is no, I can say this honestly.
[SPEAKER_01]: There is no part of me, even though, you know, Jared and I would say, like, oh, yeah, this is the goal.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we want to be number one, like no part of me thought that we were going to be number one on Amazon and number two on iTunes, fuck you, eight, and...
[SPEAKER_00]: Angry birds, angry birds, who's number one for that whole period.
[SPEAKER_01]: But, uh, but I watching us just jump to number one.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I mean, I have the screen grab still.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll send it to you.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it was 19 straight days on Amazon number.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And didn't the head of Amazon reach out?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: So if you, they, if you remember,
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so the movie came out in the first day for about an hour sales were paused and they called you and they were like, you know, what are you guys doing?
[SPEAKER_01]: And they thought it was fraud.
[SPEAKER_01]: They thought we had, you know, stolen people's accounts and we were part of cars or something.
[SPEAKER_01]: And, and Ross and I had to convince them,
[SPEAKER_01]: that this is a real thing and I think I had to like screen grab the back office of Ranger I can't remember exactly but I think I had to show like look at this here's our sales and here's our came down to you because you had all the backends yeah it was like this is real and they're like okay like so this is legit and I was like you can Google us and it was really one of those things and then they turned sales back on.
[SPEAKER_01]: your buddy, your buddy from Indiegogo reached out to them.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yes, that was the thing because you were like, please reach out to them and and when your buddy was like, no, these guys are legit.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's crazy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know, because he told the same stories like, I don't know how they got the fundraising and all this.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then they had a meeting with us, you know, Amazon, uh, they were lovely.
[SPEAKER_00]: They were great.
[SPEAKER_00]: They ended up doing like a banner on the home page all kinds of stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then they asked us if, because it was just for sale, then they asked us if we could move it to Prime and we did.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's why it's, it's still on Prime, you know?
[SPEAKER_01]: But watching that thing go to number one and they told me this, the head of Amazon's acquisition division at the time was like this is the only independent film that has ever gone to number one.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't know if that's still true.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not like I keep up on it.
[SPEAKER_01]: But hey!
[SPEAKER_00]: I would say yes, I would guess yes, because nobody's making an independent film anymore.
[SPEAKER_00]: Or if they are, it gets bought out by a major studio.
[SPEAKER_00]: I just saw that back room is moving.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Made $250,000, $750,000 budget, and by the way, go see what a 750,000 is about.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, tell her budget is.
[SPEAKER_00]: not me for real.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like you'll understand what a miracle was to pull off.
[SPEAKER_00]: We pulled off.
[SPEAKER_01]: We had we had we lit a guy on fire.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know.
[SPEAKER_00]: I go see that movie and you want to stand.
[SPEAKER_01]: We lit a guy on fire.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, but that was a 24-putton that out, which is one of the biggest movie studios in town and promotion and and all that other stuff and the other one that's big right now is confession.
[SPEAKER_00]: Another seven or 50,000 movie.
[SPEAKER_00]: But.
[SPEAKER_00]: Obsession.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but that's Blum House Jason Blum who I'd worked with he's massively fitness as every horror film on the planet Like he's got your foot in through that marketing machine and and everything else Now it's still got to catch with the audience which it did and it was awesome.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah Good for those guys for real because I love seeing that shit.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and you need what happened to us?
[SPEAKER_01]: We need more independent films to break through.
[SPEAKER_01]: Otherwise, we're just watching the same thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: And no shade on ever.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I understand how hard it is to make these giant movies.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I can only watch the same actors do the same thing so many times.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think, I think with AI, it's only going to get worse.
[SPEAKER_01]: The scripts are going to become more similar.
[SPEAKER_00]: And Netflix this morning just said, hey, there are quarterly reports came out.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they were
[SPEAKER_00]: And they have to be honest with the shareholders.
[SPEAKER_00]: They were like, how much you guys lean in an AI right now to lower costs and everything?
[SPEAKER_00]: Because they're down 51% stock on the air.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they said, we're using it now.
[SPEAKER_00]: And over, I think 900 projects this year, use AI.
[SPEAKER_00]: and they didn't tell anybody.
[SPEAKER_00]: I found out today, and I wrote this book, this book, you, and I was like, wow, guys, you know, we all figured this is where we were.
[SPEAKER_00]: But here's the thing, it was during race for teen.
[SPEAKER_00]: If AI was around, we would use it for some of those scenes for sure, 100%.
[SPEAKER_00]: To make them look better.
[SPEAKER_01]: And there's little things you can do that don't bother me, like even with the limited stuff I have, like I've played around with, you know what?
[SPEAKER_01]: I wish that in this scene,
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, so and so was wearing this shirt and like it can do that perfect.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: It can do that perfect.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, or hey overhead shot or steer.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Can we get the boom is in this.
[SPEAKER_01]: Can we get rid of that?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: No problem.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: You can do that.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like fucking boom.
[SPEAKER_00]: Always better.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's way into the best.
[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, I mean, you and I have different opinions on this, but I, I don't love it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I love.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love the utility, you know, in terms of.
[SPEAKER_01]: being able to do some things quickly, but I enjoy filmmaking, and I don't want.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want AI to I know you don't here here's my and you you when I've had this just get behind the scenes, but here's my thing is like you deal with so many people And I've dealt with thousands and production over the years and like get it I don't mean I even got casting me on people will bitch about something a year later, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Of all men I should have been paid more on this should have happened or that should have happened and this should and I'm just like,
[SPEAKER_00]: or hey, you were dick about this or this or this and I'm like man, when it is your own company, your own project, and you've got to deal with all of this shit all day long, you just want people to do their jobs.
[SPEAKER_00]: Whatever the contract was that they signed, great, awesome ending up paid for, and then move on with your life.
[SPEAKER_00]: And people ask me all the time when something is successful in particular, they're like,
[SPEAKER_00]: man don't you wish you would have had my money for that I go no what I signed on for was what I signed on for I did the job they pay me to do and I moved on with my life and if you have enough talent in life
[SPEAKER_00]: should be able to replicate it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Do it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Do it again.
[SPEAKER_01]: Do it again.
[SPEAKER_01]: Do it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Or the next thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Whatever.
[SPEAKER_00]: Whatever the next thing is.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's where you and I differ where it's so fucking stressful right now.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because I'm a piece of shit.
[SPEAKER_01]: They can't replicate anything.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, no, no.
[SPEAKER_00]: Just I'm joking.
[SPEAKER_00]: But dealing with the people where I'm sure you guys dealt with this on on the TV show.
[SPEAKER_01]: That was different because it was so inside.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was so inside, like I used my guys and our extended family, you know, contractors.
[SPEAKER_00]: You don't have to use other people from Hollywood or any of that shit.
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't use a single person that wasn't dieseljack media except for the actors.
[SPEAKER_00]: Got it, got it, got it.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the production side, like they weren't, they're not all employees, but like for example, this one guy Josh Collins, he's very talented.
[SPEAKER_01]: He has his own thing, but like I was with him last weekend.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was with him two weeks ago.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like we worked together all the time.
[SPEAKER_01]: He just likes to run his own shop and be a contractor.
[SPEAKER_01]: So he was one of the guys on set, you know, doing sound and helping, you know, select.
[SPEAKER_01]: every but there was there was high trust and everybody knew they weren't going to get screwed and everybody knew what it was and you know so it was it was low key but the the stakes of office Joe were so much smaller than range 15 like with office Joe it's like like I paid for it plus a couple of sponsors it was small production
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, when you talk, what we were doing, all those big actors, all the stunts, the action, the timeline, the 55K a day.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, oh, 60 people.
[SPEAKER_01]: I did not appreciate that you were producing, directing and acting.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, like if you saw off as Joe, I put myself as the guy that occasionally called on the phone so that I didn't have to worry about shooting me at all.
[SPEAKER_01]: That was after watching you and thinking about it.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I was just on a phone.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I literally shot that, like we cut the whole film, the whole series.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then I added myself in based on their performances, just a shot of my iPhone.
[SPEAKER_00]: And for me, that's why I only wrote in for Gene Van and Ham scenes because I get it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I get it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I could do with directing and all that other shit and even in fuck.
[SPEAKER_01]: And if it let's be one of those scenes, let's be honest.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was just mean a tennis ball.
[SPEAKER_01]: If there was more Gene Van and Ham, like, it's just such a dominant character.
[SPEAKER_01]: you know.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, you know, you can't.
[SPEAKER_00]: We didn't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Matt crushed it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like he, he did a fantastic job as the lead, but if Vandenham was in every scene, that would have been a constant.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you can't you can't help yourself.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean even you can't help.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of improv.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but but you But you when the camera rolls, you're a different person.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're like the Hulk.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, now once they can't like right.
[SPEAKER_01]: We can have a normal conversation Fucking camera starts rolling and you're like I will destroy everyone else on this set.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, yes, um, but And then most of those scenes I was a tennis ball because I had to go in direction on the scene, so yeah
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, all right, just hold up a tennis ball where's my eye line?
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna just knock this out real quick and then just did a shit tonight on our improv and then I was like, I'll cut it together and post for good.
[SPEAKER_00]: And a lot of people don't know that either.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, at some point we should just release the entire you giving the speech with the president.
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you have it?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I don't have, I don't, I think you have all the drives.
[SPEAKER_01]: I got all of it.
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, when you're just like, you know, like, you know, we gave birth behind a quiz nose, you know, like we couldn't put quiz nose in the,
[SPEAKER_00]: It was like 26 minutes or something crazy like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was so fucking ridiculous.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I remember, oh, who did we have?
[SPEAKER_01]: We forgot to mention him, legendary actor.
[SPEAKER_01]: Dale Dye.
[SPEAKER_01]: Dale Dye, Silver Star recipient.
[SPEAKER_01]: Dale Dye.
[SPEAKER_00]: He was on the show, Jared started yawning.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he just turns without missing a beating.
[SPEAKER_00]: He was nice yawning, turd.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he was just sitting there.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you're going, you go on this 26 minute diatribe.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he's just like, what the fuck is going on?
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, you know, you did, you did, you did.
[SPEAKER_01]: I said kiss, I said fucking face shit.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, you see, you're gonna flip out.
[SPEAKER_01]: I see you're gonna flip out.
[SPEAKER_01]: Good.
[UNKNOWN]: God.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was so fucking fun.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh God.
[SPEAKER_01]: But it was, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's
[SPEAKER_01]: We're all five of us wouldn't break weren't breaking.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, no.
[SPEAKER_00]: And, uh, yeah, to Jack Manavill, uh, he was the closest than at the end.
[SPEAKER_01]: He just, he just lost it.
[SPEAKER_01]: The only, you know, who Marcus Trial didn't laugh the whole time.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, he was the end until the end.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Speaking of a guy that was, remember, he was bringing us hot dogs the whole time.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, oh, I'm not in these scenes.
[SPEAKER_01]: So let me just get food for everybody.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're like, what the hell, man?
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, he was, he was awesome.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm still friends with him.
[SPEAKER_01]: Still friends with him and his wife is amazing.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're the best, Melanie.
[SPEAKER_01]: And his kids, the kids are amazing.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're all, they're all, they're like a perfect, it's like the perfect family.
[SPEAKER_00]: Morgan is brother, like the most genuine, greatest people.
[SPEAKER_00]: And super love people, super love people.
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll do it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I appreciate you coming and doing this.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, man.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a blast.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is fucking awesome.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I own Ranger Up again, which is wild.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's help everybody where they can find it.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, Ranger Up.com.
[SPEAKER_00]: There you go.
[SPEAKER_00]: Be sure.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's the old thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Dude, you're back at it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, back at it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Back at it.
[SPEAKER_00]: You got to go back to doing what you love, though.
[SPEAKER_01]: it was it was fun, you know, I did the private equity thing, you know, because, I mean, frankly, because I watched, you know, I watched Black Rifle do it, I watched Cronstyle do it, and I was like, man, we, you know, the problem we always have is cash flow trying to grow, because, you know, as you have every person as you're dealing with, right now, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it just does get bigger.
[SPEAKER_01]: But when you, as soon as private equity is involved,
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot more X's and O's and they just, you know, it becomes a different thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so when you're like, oh, yeah, we want to throw a party at this thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, oh, what's the ROI on that?
[SPEAKER_01]: You're like, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: We just want to do something cool for the community.
[SPEAKER_01]: It just, it wasn't a good fit.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I walked away and then, you know, they brought in New York City people and L.A. people.
[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, and the company kind of faded, and then they got acquired.
[SPEAKER_01]: by a bigger company and that the president of a new company called me and he was like, hey man, I don't know anything about this stuff like I want to print shirts, like do you want this back and I was like yeah, you know, what's the catch and he's like, I don't really work that way, I didn't know the guy, it's like I don't really work that way, like this is what I want you to like take it back and grow it and I want to print your shirts and I was like, is that really like is that, is that what you want, like that's the deal and then he's like,
[SPEAKER_01]: like hell yeah I'm good yeah like let's do this and he did that is very rare he did I know I know like fantastic and and so you know higher in veterans again but but the whole when the company got bought the old guys laid off all my employees that's what I heard and so the whole reason that I own a media company right now is because I was like fuck that I hired everybody I didn't
[SPEAKER_01]: And so like I hired everybody at their old wage at zero customers.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I built this company over the last six years, you know, just kind of winging it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, now it's, you know, it's doing real well.
[SPEAKER_01]: But the reason RU has bounced back so quickly.
[SPEAKER_01]: because it's, it's crushing it right now.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's really still well.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I also brought in Austin von Lattkeman, who, who you know well, but is because the whole team is there.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it was like, oh, hey, remember what we were doing six years ago?
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's do that again.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's do that again, but you know better.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's been really cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't realize, and this kind of goes back to what we're talking about.
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't realize how much I missed the community.
[SPEAKER_01]: Not that I wasn't involved, obviously, I've been continued to be very heavily involved in the veteran community with all the other stuff I'm doing, both non-profit shit and for sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: But being able to entertain people again, it's like I really missed it, and I didn't appreciate how much I did.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so, like, that's the best part for me.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I'm not chasing anything this time.
[SPEAKER_01]: When I, you know, the first time around, you're like, oh, we gotta get to the, we gotta get to 10 million, 20, you know, like you're, you're, you're trying to win something.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then, you know, like I said, I'm about to turn 50.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's, you're not winning shit.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, we're all gonna die.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, do you enjoy what you're doing?
[SPEAKER_01]: And I really like doing this, you know, and it's fun.
[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, having Austin on board
[SPEAKER_01]: uh... you know your old buddy are tansy uh... you know how it would hurt hollywood heard uh... you know the man uh... it's just fun yeah so you know i get to have fun again in addition to all the other stuff i'm doing and uh... i think that
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it'll probably be bigger than it was the first time and I think we'll have a whole bunch of veterans and we'll kind of bring in the new class of talented people like you'll notice I'm in a lot fewer things now like kind of like Evan with black rifle I always wondered like you know, how come Evan isn't in everything you know like he used to run the company.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's it's not only that.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like you realize like you know
[SPEAKER_01]: like even with the movie right Matt's great on screen you know Jared is hilarious jack mandibles hilarious like i'm a good straight man right i can play that all day long and evident you know with the exception of uh like instructor uh world instructor Earl he's that's fantastic but like he plays that a lot and so i'm the straight man and a lot of stuff and all that you know Austin and Eric and you know Johnny Vargas and all these great people like they're the talent
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, so it's fun.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's fun.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's awesome that you're back.
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, obviously we're happy to be back in Wilmington now to point the show.
[SPEAKER_00]: We do the drinking bro the weed.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm glad I'm glad you're back.
[SPEAKER_00]: Same.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was just for the same.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, it's access was just so goddamn hot.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So goddamn hot.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: We had, uh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I always said that we'd be back.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: You were like, uh, you're never come by.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, no, no, I promised you on the day.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just thought you were so
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was a great deal they offered.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love Texas.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's too brown.
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I need the green.
[SPEAKER_01]: I need green.
[SPEAKER_00]: I miss the ocean.
[SPEAKER_00]: I miss breezes.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want it to be 118.
[SPEAKER_00]: I could go on and on.
[SPEAKER_00]: but everything they promised this came true.
[SPEAKER_00]: No regrets on that one, but happy to be back.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now's one of the show we get to the drinking bro of the week.
[SPEAKER_00]: You've done it on the show numerous times and I think just in the spirit of today's show, we got to give it to the drinking bro's community because without these guys and you guys at home,
[SPEAKER_00]: Many of you are day one homies to this show.
[SPEAKER_00]: None of this happens.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, range 15 does not happen.
[SPEAKER_00]: It is not successful.
[SPEAKER_00]: But you're not sitting here ten years later talking about it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_00]: People are not coming up to the industry.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's fucking yelling out.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, are you the guy from the zombie member or anything else?
[SPEAKER_00]: So it is truly because of you guys that any of this shit exists and neither of us are too jaded to be like, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
[SPEAKER_00]: rent range 15.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Is this going iTunes?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's on Instagram.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's iTunes Prime and not a war story as well.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: For Nick Palmaschano, I'm Ross Patterson.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is the drinking bro's podcast.
[SPEAKER_00]: Good.
[SPEAKER_00]: Night, everyone.
[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks, guys.