WEBVTT 00:00.071 --> 00:11.114 [SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to the Baseball Insiders, Happy Wednesday, I'm Adam Winder, join as always by fans at its MLB Insider Robert Murray, and we are within two weeks till the trade deadline reminder, 6 p.m. Eastern Monday, August 3rd. 00:11.434 --> 00:19.936 [SPEAKER_01]: We're gonna go over as many rumors as we can, get to as many of your questions as we can, and use Robert's insight as best we can to determine the latest on Terriq Scooble, Mason Miller, 00:20.416 --> 00:28.166 [SPEAKER_01]: This world is chairman thing is interesting in that it's already over, but it might have happened, which gives you some maybe clues or the white socks for suits. 00:28.627 --> 00:33.253 [SPEAKER_01]: We'll tell you about all that in more that there's no better time to join us than over the next couple of weeks. 00:33.333 --> 00:35.216 [SPEAKER_01]: Again, use that August third deadline. 00:35.656 --> 00:52.732 [SPEAKER_01]: As a reason to come join the baseball 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with you as always. 01:15.515 --> 01:17.656 [SPEAKER_00]: We are less than two weeks away from the trade deadline. 01:17.756 --> 01:19.277 [SPEAKER_00]: Enching a little bit closer. 01:19.417 --> 01:21.858 [SPEAKER_00]: My notebook is incredibly full. 01:21.958 --> 01:25.239 [SPEAKER_00]: I have also been on the phone basically nonstop yesterday. 01:25.259 --> 01:27.240 [SPEAKER_00]: It was just absolute madness this morning. 01:27.801 --> 01:32.943 [SPEAKER_00]: It was my fame is waking up to about a two or two thirty a.m. phone call, which is always fun and 01:33.552 --> 01:37.133 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's just been a very active last 40 an hour. 01:37.153 --> 01:38.693 [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm anxious to break it all down with you. 01:38.753 --> 01:41.354 [SPEAKER_00]: Adam Winder, I'm excited to talk straight to that line. 01:41.774 --> 01:44.515 [SPEAKER_00]: All sorts of stuff, baseball, but how you doing, happy hump day. 01:44.935 --> 01:51.576 [SPEAKER_01]: Happy hump day, we've joked a lot about the AL playout picture being impossible to parse, especially compared to the NL. 01:51.897 --> 01:53.277 [SPEAKER_01]: It's getting a little bit easier. 01:53.437 --> 01:56.998 [SPEAKER_01]: All of a sudden, you know, I'm not printing standings on July 22nd, but 01:57.878 --> 01:59.900 [SPEAKER_01]: The red socks are distinguishing themselves a bit. 01:59.980 --> 02:01.661 [SPEAKER_01]: We know the mariners and rangers. 02:01.702 --> 02:04.984 [SPEAKER_01]: Those teams are going to buy and then attempt to get back into the field. 02:05.025 --> 02:08.287 [SPEAKER_01]: But beyond those dudes, it's like it was a couple of weeks ago. 02:08.327 --> 02:09.809 [SPEAKER_01]: It's just under 500 teams. 02:09.849 --> 02:14.713 [SPEAKER_01]: So maybe that helps us, maybe it doesn't, you know, maybe it raises the prices, maybe who knows? 02:15.634 --> 02:21.660 [SPEAKER_01]: All we can do right now is check the temperature, and so I'm going to have to start with the number one name that is going to top every trade deadline list. 02:22.040 --> 02:30.648 [SPEAKER_01]: TarXGoogle, again, we're going to talk about them every show from now through August 3rd, and probably beyond as well, because the Tiger's decision here will be scrutinized. 02:31.089 --> 02:34.993 [SPEAKER_01]: Once you're current temperature check on whether or not he is available and who would be involved. 02:35.033 --> 02:39.237 [SPEAKER_01]: We saw Ken Rose involved a whole lot of controllable pitchers earlier today. 02:39.297 --> 02:40.178 [SPEAKER_01]: Just a sort of say, hey, 02:40.778 --> 02:46.123 [SPEAKER_01]: Jared, if it's the braves and your painter, if it's the fillies, you know, those are not players the Tigers are interested in. 02:46.483 --> 02:49.086 [SPEAKER_01]: He's just playing a guessing game, you know, who fits the bill? 02:49.206 --> 02:58.074 [SPEAKER_01]: So we're in that stage, but how available do you think he is, and how aggressive will the Dodgers be if he is available or to try to get him available? 02:58.828 --> 03:07.793 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so the Terry school question, the answer that I can confidently tell you is, I don't know, and even the Detroit Tigers do not know at this point. 03:07.853 --> 03:12.415 [SPEAKER_00]: And like that's a boring answer, but it's the truth because they're 47 and 54 right now. 03:13.276 --> 03:22.921 [SPEAKER_00]: They are currently, I think AJ Hinch even said it when he was talking to John Hammond on his podcast, like every game at this point before the deadline is essentially a playoff game. 03:22.981 --> 03:25.843 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like a game 70 World Series because it's going to determine 03:26.804 --> 03:44.647 [SPEAKER_00]: The direction of their franchise and if they trade the best picture in baseball and if they go on this big winning streak here Then okay, it's like, you know what you hold on to school, and you try to add You go and play 500 baseball or worse than that then, you know what you probably have to wake up and smell the coffee and probably end up trading a guy like schoolboy 03:45.047 --> 03:53.873 [SPEAKER_00]: And that's going to result in just an all-out bidding war here and the Los Angeles Dodgers remain the team that everybody is watching across baseball as far as school will go. 03:53.913 --> 04:09.444 [SPEAKER_00]: So you look at the Dodgers' rotation and it's probably going to be the best playoff rotation in ball but they know better than anybody you need depth and also you need like elite level starters and you add school to that team and then I just I don't see a way that they don't win the world series if I'm being honest. 04:09.464 --> 04:09.604 [SPEAKER_00]: So 04:10.482 --> 04:20.329 [SPEAKER_00]: I would absolutely expect the daughters but they're outfield depth and just they're overall numbers that they have to try to use those to add, whether it's school or somebody else. 04:20.950 --> 04:26.073 [SPEAKER_00]: The raise remains super interesting and I thought Ken Rosenbaum mentioning E&C Moore was a really good shot by him. 04:26.914 --> 04:28.935 [SPEAKER_00]: Like the control will pitching aspect and C Moore. 04:29.295 --> 04:31.837 [SPEAKER_00]: He's a former, I believe, second round pick of the raise. 04:32.358 --> 04:35.400 [SPEAKER_00]: He is really coming to his own this year and he was almost part of that raise. 04:36.000 --> 04:36.821 [SPEAKER_00]: combined no hitter. 04:38.082 --> 04:40.044 [SPEAKER_00]: He's been super talented, so I like him. 04:40.525 --> 04:42.947 [SPEAKER_00]: Still skeptical about the bruises chances. 04:43.468 --> 04:46.791 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if they're going to be willing to go out and spend what it takes to get school. 04:47.492 --> 04:49.173 [SPEAKER_00]: Philadelphia would be super interesting. 04:49.193 --> 04:53.818 [SPEAKER_00]: We obviously know Dave and Browsky will always be able to level starting pitchers and there's no better pitcher than Terry's school. 04:54.258 --> 05:02.163 [SPEAKER_00]: So I firmly expect there's going to be more teams that are going to be involved in this thing than what we just listed here, but it all depends on how the Tigers play. 05:02.404 --> 05:08.548 [SPEAKER_00]: And if they struggle, then that changes the entire deadline here and it's going to result in one of the best pitchers. 05:08.648 --> 05:13.091 [SPEAKER_00]: If not the best pitchers on a planet change your teams for at least the next two or three months before free agency. 05:13.642 --> 05:20.385 [SPEAKER_01]: the Dodgers do have that patently absurd afield depth as long as Kendall George can avoid more bat dogs moving forward as we head towards the trade deadline. 05:20.425 --> 05:22.306 [SPEAKER_01]: It's got to be it's got to be the Dodgers. 05:22.346 --> 05:24.227 [SPEAKER_01]: It's got to be the race in my opinion. 05:24.467 --> 05:27.889 [SPEAKER_01]: And if we're talking deadline, we have to talk Mason Miller. 05:27.929 --> 05:29.450 [SPEAKER_01]: It's got to be Mason Miller as well. 05:29.510 --> 05:39.615 [SPEAKER_01]: Look, this is a name that every time I checked it with you, you said, I just can't see it unlikely to imagine this dude moving especially one year after he was obtained for a 05:40.375 --> 05:49.659 [SPEAKER_01]: But there is some more Jeff pass and smoke blown yesterday saying the podgers would want MLB ready starters, which woke up the Yankees fans a little bit who were thinking about mason Miller. 05:49.699 --> 05:53.041 [SPEAKER_01]: So temperature check here as well, Wednesday, July 22nd. 05:53.061 --> 05:54.201 [SPEAKER_01]: We got a couple of weeks to go. 05:54.221 --> 05:56.422 [SPEAKER_01]: Where are you at on mason Miller in the podgers? 05:57.142 --> 05:58.842 [SPEAKER_00]: I remain the same as where I've been. 05:59.083 --> 06:00.843 [SPEAKER_00]: I have a hard time seeing him moved. 06:00.883 --> 06:04.484 [SPEAKER_00]: And again, are the chances of him being traded 0%. 06:04.544 --> 06:08.185 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, no, like there's definitely a chance that he's going to be moved. 06:08.225 --> 06:10.706 [SPEAKER_00]: But I don't think that chance is very big by any means here. 06:10.766 --> 06:13.346 [SPEAKER_00]: And again, let's lay on my reason here. 06:13.666 --> 06:15.527 [SPEAKER_00]: Is Prylar coveted? 06:15.985 --> 06:17.325 [SPEAKER_00]: Mason Miller for a couple of years. 06:17.805 --> 06:22.046 [SPEAKER_00]: And he finally got him, gave up Leo DeVries, number two prospect in baseball. 06:22.607 --> 06:28.888 [SPEAKER_00]: And it was not a small price to pay, but he wanted him, and he's been phenomenal in San Diego. 06:28.948 --> 06:30.528 [SPEAKER_00]: He's been incredible. 06:31.129 --> 06:34.909 [SPEAKER_00]: And he's signed for three more years and he's super-formable rate. 06:35.510 --> 06:39.731 [SPEAKER_00]: And the pod raise view him as the best closer in baseball. 06:39.891 --> 06:42.711 [SPEAKER_00]: And I don't think it's by like a close margin either. 06:42.751 --> 06:44.532 [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's by a pretty wide margin at this point. 06:46.232 --> 06:49.134 [SPEAKER_00]: And he is a very unique player who helps who win games. 06:49.754 --> 06:56.478 [SPEAKER_00]: And I just don't see Preller openly trying to trade a player of that caliber who they view is super elite. 06:56.858 --> 07:01.981 [SPEAKER_00]: That being said though, Preller listens on every single scenario. 07:02.381 --> 07:06.864 [SPEAKER_00]: I was on a podcast yesterday for Fallout Territory and I use this line. 07:06.884 --> 07:08.505 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm pretty sure I've used this line with you too. 07:09.305 --> 07:19.912 [SPEAKER_00]: if he will listen on us at him, like if he can trade us, he probably would, so like he listens on everything, he's super creative, he does not ignore any scenario. 07:20.412 --> 07:23.114 [SPEAKER_00]: And like if you think so, you can improve the progress, he'll listen on it. 07:23.494 --> 07:32.619 [SPEAKER_00]: So, he'll listen, I may say Miller, but I'm ultimately very skeptical that any team is going to meet his super high-asky price when it comes to a massive military trade. 07:32.639 --> 07:33.340 [SPEAKER_00]: Am I ruling it out? 07:33.720 --> 07:34.681 [SPEAKER_00]: No, but I'm just I'm 07:38.783 --> 08:02.032 [SPEAKER_00]: they are not like out of this playoff race by any means like I get it you have that like the Mullins you have the pirates you have some of these other teams are going to be ahead of them but it's not like they're that far away from this thing so if probably smells playoffs then I have a hard time seeing that happen and I could see him trying to add and try to buy but the next week or so I think is really good to determine it but as of this point I firmly remain skeptical he's going to be moving 08:02.834 --> 08:06.095 [SPEAKER_01]: I just got worried that AJ Preller has traded me for Jaren Doran. 08:06.115 --> 08:09.116 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how that makes sense, but I hope you enjoy your new ghost. 08:09.196 --> 08:10.617 [SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, I guess we won't be on the Padres. 08:10.677 --> 08:12.157 [SPEAKER_01]: I'll just be on a podcast. 08:12.338 --> 08:14.758 [SPEAKER_01]: So we'll have to figure that out. 08:14.858 --> 08:15.719 [SPEAKER_01]: We had a question. 08:15.759 --> 08:20.441 [SPEAKER_01]: People wanted white socks talk, and I think the white socks talk just going a little more complicated today. 08:20.501 --> 08:27.623 [SPEAKER_01]: When we learned, there's a report floating around that said, before the red socks went on this big winning streak, they were close on a role this Chapman now. 08:27.703 --> 08:31.525 [SPEAKER_01]: Who knows how much exaggeration that is, how much smoke is being blown there. 08:32.625 --> 08:35.316 [SPEAKER_01]: that the question was about starting pitching health. 08:35.376 --> 08:38.388 [SPEAKER_01]: It seems clear that the white socks may be interesting relief health as well. 08:38.727 --> 08:44.390 [SPEAKER_01]: And I saw Bill Madden, who you know, talks to people than the Yankees organization, say the white socks and Mason Miller. 08:44.470 --> 08:47.031 [SPEAKER_01]: So again, you know exactly where that's coming from. 08:47.191 --> 08:52.914 [SPEAKER_01]: Who knows what gets across the finish line or what even gets close, but white socks in the bullpen market might be interesting. 08:53.214 --> 09:01.299 [SPEAKER_01]: The Kyle Teele injury, not as serious as we feared, but they're gonna have to look for catching, as well, is there a sort of a Ryan Jeffers tax in the division. 09:01.679 --> 09:07.962 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, what are you hearing about the white socks whose pursuits seem to be a lot more varied than they were when I pulled together this outline yesterday. 09:08.525 --> 09:10.666 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, how about these Chicago white socks, baby? 09:10.706 --> 09:11.926 [SPEAKER_00]: It's pretty exciting seeing this. 09:11.986 --> 09:16.867 [SPEAKER_00]: But as far as the white socks go, I see them being really aggressive on the pitch. 09:16.887 --> 09:18.688 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, like I was starting pitching front. 09:18.828 --> 09:25.690 [SPEAKER_00]: As far as the bullpen market, I can't say I've heard that about them at one point being close to getting a role this Chapman. 09:25.730 --> 09:30.311 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I could be wrong, but I have not heard that on my end. 09:30.351 --> 09:31.392 [SPEAKER_00]: So I'll check. 09:31.572 --> 09:32.712 [SPEAKER_00]: I've checked already. 09:32.752 --> 09:36.113 [SPEAKER_00]: I had not heard back anything definitive here, but that, 09:36.793 --> 09:38.915 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, that's not something that I had heard there. 09:39.896 --> 09:44.620 [SPEAKER_00]: But I do view the white socks as a team that couldn't in making or trying to make this last year. 09:44.960 --> 09:48.383 [SPEAKER_00]: And if you can get somebody's control, I think that make a ton of sense here. 09:48.403 --> 09:52.367 [SPEAKER_00]: Like I've mentioned before, read DebtMers and some of these other guys here as well. 09:52.407 --> 09:57.391 [SPEAKER_00]: And I roll this tab and actually fits into that category of control because he's going to be under contract for next year as well. 09:57.411 --> 09:59.553 [SPEAKER_00]: I can really show it back into that bullpen. 09:59.573 --> 10:03.476 [SPEAKER_00]: They've always had sermons for Anthony Dominguez and some of these other guys here as well. 10:04.935 --> 10:08.800 [SPEAKER_00]: So I think pitching is going to be the primary focus of the Chicago White stocks here for sure. 10:09.421 --> 10:10.602 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, on the catching side though. 10:10.943 --> 10:23.698 [SPEAKER_00]: This is where this market is like I thought the options could be thin, but it's like it's kind of like a deeper unit or deeper, like class of catchers here, but that being said, like shale anglers. 10:24.819 --> 10:27.341 [SPEAKER_00]: And some of these other high-end catchers like a hundred good men. 10:28.301 --> 10:32.063 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't view them as being likely to move at all I have the ruchman. 10:32.143 --> 10:33.484 [SPEAKER_00]: I'll put that category as well. 10:33.564 --> 10:42.128 [SPEAKER_00]: I think all three of those guys end up staying Ryan Jeffers like twins are kind of a limbo at this point So we're I don't know if he's gonna be moved. 10:42.168 --> 10:47.691 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think or I don't know if Joe Ryan's gonna be removed Other teams across the league are trying to get a temperature on that. 10:47.711 --> 10:50.873 [SPEAKER_00]: They don't have a good read on it either But that being said though 10:51.759 --> 10:55.442 [SPEAKER_00]: the amount of catching depth though that will be available is a good amount. 10:55.502 --> 10:59.244 [SPEAKER_00]: There's going to be some underrated guys to watch, read, be Tyler Stephenson. 10:59.805 --> 11:05.229 [SPEAKER_00]: I'll look at Victor Caretini, possibly if the twins hold on to a guy like Ryan Jeffers. 11:05.429 --> 11:09.352 [SPEAKER_00]: So there is a bunch of different ways of the white socks and some of these other teams can go about this. 11:09.872 --> 11:10.573 [SPEAKER_00]: So like 11:11.293 --> 11:14.116 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's a deeper, deeper class though for sure. 11:14.556 --> 11:26.128 [SPEAKER_00]: I just don't know if I could have despite all these big name catchers being listed in rumors, I don't think we're going to see a big crazy move unless someone comes away with an off that just these teams cannot refuse. 11:26.954 --> 11:29.235 [SPEAKER_01]: The Joe Ryan thing continues to be confusing as well. 11:29.315 --> 11:37.638 [SPEAKER_01]: Again, these twins losses don't help because they'll have however much the twins want to buy and want to retain their position of the wild carder is. 11:37.978 --> 11:41.719 [SPEAKER_01]: Joe Ryan giving up the most homers in twin history and a single start on money doesn't help. 11:42.079 --> 11:44.980 [SPEAKER_01]: You also know they loved that fire sale last year. 11:45.640 --> 11:50.562 [SPEAKER_01]: They're trying to weigh the joy of that with the joy of maybe brooping some fans back in and 11:51.002 --> 11:52.703 [SPEAKER_01]: and reinvesting in this current roster. 11:53.083 --> 11:55.424 [SPEAKER_01]: Now, let's say Ryan's not on the market. 11:55.584 --> 11:58.225 [SPEAKER_01]: We know Sunny Gray is sticking in Boston. 11:58.725 --> 12:02.367 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, now much the Red Sox have I believe one 39 straight baseball game. 12:02.387 --> 12:09.290 [SPEAKER_01]: So I think they're gonna buy the Cubs our team that we previously connected to Ryan to Gray to the top of the starting pitching market. 12:09.690 --> 12:10.690 [SPEAKER_01]: Same with the Braves. 12:11.030 --> 12:16.933 [SPEAKER_01]: Those are teams that still have the same pitching needs they did a couple of weeks back and fewer clear avenues to solve them. 12:17.313 --> 12:39.487 [SPEAKER_01]: Which brings me to another question in the comments about debt mers and Soriano and the chances that they are dealt away from the angel So we know the cup of the pitching we know the brave's the pitching and we know these doors are being closed So thoughts on those pursuits and maybe these angels candidates because redet mers has a chance to be a Seriously expensive controllable name of the deadline 12:40.053 --> 12:53.745 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I'll start with the angels as aspect of this, like they're very open to listening on different things and I think more so than they have been in recent years and that's exactly how this organization should be operating because this is a team that is not close to contending by any means. 12:54.345 --> 13:03.533 [SPEAKER_00]: And let's say you can get possibly two top 100 prospects for gallery demos like that could end up being a like a farm system overall that they just desperately need. 13:04.447 --> 13:09.572 [SPEAKER_00]: Sorry, I don't necessarily know what the asking price is going to be there, but that being said, it's not going to be cheap. 13:09.632 --> 13:16.338 [SPEAKER_00]: And if you can possibly move One of those guys, I don't know if you can move both, but if you move one of them, that would do a lot there as well. 13:16.458 --> 13:21.523 [SPEAKER_00]: And then you can also pursue somebody in forage and see, I'm pretty sure John Mosaic is kind of hinted at that kind of strategy. 13:21.923 --> 13:24.025 [SPEAKER_00]: So they're going to consider a lot of different things and 13:24.906 --> 13:38.108 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm really excited to see how they operate here because I feel better about their chances of making like a move along these lines than I have in recent years, and same with a garlic joe Adele as well, there's going to be a bunch of teams I get to be after him. 13:38.428 --> 13:46.510 [SPEAKER_00]: I still think Philadelphia would be a really nice fit for him, and I know I've mentioned them with Taylor Ward as well, so yeah, I think John Mosellack is going to be very busy. 13:46.530 --> 13:50.251 [SPEAKER_00]: I think he's going to be having a lot of phone calls are pretty positive because I already 13:53.351 --> 13:58.876 [SPEAKER_00]: But turning the thing to the Cubs is perspective, they have to get pitching in some sort of different way here. 13:58.896 --> 14:01.037 [SPEAKER_00]: And what exactly could that look like? 14:01.077 --> 14:04.680 [SPEAKER_00]: And same with the Atlanta Braids, but I'll go one team at a time here. 14:05.180 --> 14:11.285 [SPEAKER_00]: Could the Cubs go out and get a lesser guy like a Robbie Ray, who I'm pretty positive they've had interest in him in the past. 14:11.785 --> 14:39.117 [SPEAKER_00]: or could they try to make a splash or move for like a Joe Ryan type or I mean just trying to go along those lines where I don't know I expect them at some point though to add a pitcher I don't don't necessarily know what that pitcher's going to look like but everything that I've heard from Chicago is that it's going to be pitching pitching and more pitching there so I would be absolutely shocked stunned hoodwink bamboo's I don't know I'm trying to do the Steven A thing 14:41.697 --> 14:47.539 [SPEAKER_00]: uh, at least one picture at the deadline here at Lano, they are very open to anything here. 14:47.699 --> 14:53.041 [SPEAKER_00]: They are like, this is a boring answer, but starting pitching, both end, offense. 14:53.101 --> 14:56.923 [SPEAKER_00]: They are considering all of that, but I think pitching is going to be the real priority there. 14:57.699 --> 15:13.898 [SPEAKER_00]: In Atlanta, and if you can end a batting, whether it's a tariff school type or a Joel Ryan type, or just, like, a, even a redepers type, obviously they've had history of making trades with the angels, not necessarily, which I'm was a lack, but they have a history and you would have to think they know they're players quite well. 15:14.598 --> 15:22.723 [SPEAKER_00]: I think Alexander Thoppless at this deadline is going to be aggressive and I'm excited to see what he ultimately does because I can see multiple moves coming out of Atlanta. 15:23.223 --> 15:26.445 [SPEAKER_00]: And I also would not rule out the possibility of them adding another reliever. 15:26.585 --> 15:35.991 [SPEAKER_00]: I think that's something we should definitely consider if they consider these prices for starting pictures to be overly lucrative because the prices at this point are quite, quite high. 15:37.065 --> 15:40.729 [SPEAKER_01]: Uncle Tan, I see you floating Kevin Gosman as a brave, and that is exciting. 15:40.769 --> 15:43.071 [SPEAKER_01]: He was there once upon a time. 15:43.332 --> 15:51.040 [SPEAKER_01]: Now, I mean, yeah, thoughts on Gosman thoughts on the Blue Jays, who are going in the opposite direction of the team that took Sunny Grey and the world as chairman of the market. 15:51.631 --> 15:51.971 [SPEAKER_00]: stunning. 15:52.251 --> 16:00.455 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, genuinely, like I did not see any scenario in which way the blue jays would end up being a potential seller at the deadline, but you know what? 16:00.535 --> 16:01.236 [SPEAKER_00]: Here we are now. 16:01.756 --> 16:04.617 [SPEAKER_00]: And Kevin Gosman is going to be trying a ton of interest here. 16:04.777 --> 16:06.218 [SPEAKER_00]: He is dependable. 16:06.378 --> 16:07.959 [SPEAKER_00]: He is a really good starting pitcher. 16:08.639 --> 16:11.541 [SPEAKER_00]: And I think the BlueJace would do quite well on a trade here. 16:12.482 --> 16:14.543 [SPEAKER_00]: I hope they can turn things around here. 16:14.563 --> 16:16.184 [SPEAKER_00]: They're 46 and 55 right now. 16:16.265 --> 16:17.886 [SPEAKER_00]: So not looking overly good. 16:18.626 --> 16:20.388 [SPEAKER_00]: But Gosma would be drawing plenty of interest. 16:20.448 --> 16:24.350 [SPEAKER_00]: And again, I think the Cubs would be a team that we should mention there, Atlanta. 16:24.591 --> 16:27.553 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, there's going to be all sorts of different contenders in the mix there. 16:27.593 --> 16:32.456 [SPEAKER_00]: But they also have Dalton Varshow, who is in the final year of his contract there. 16:33.037 --> 16:36.619 [SPEAKER_00]: And also, like we have, like, I know we're going to be talking bullpen a little bit later. 16:39.077 --> 16:43.941 [SPEAKER_00]: The oldest Chapman's probably staying put, Luke Weaver, I would imagine it's probably going to get traded. 16:44.341 --> 16:47.504 [SPEAKER_00]: You have some of these other guys in the market, but it's limited. 16:48.004 --> 16:52.208 [SPEAKER_00]: Could they end up doing something with, or could they listen here on a Gally Jeff Hoffman? 16:52.548 --> 16:58.253 [SPEAKER_00]: And I know it's been kind of an up and down tenure for him in Toronto, but he's had success in the past. 16:59.114 --> 17:01.737 [SPEAKER_00]: I wonder if a team could end up trying to pry him away from Toronto. 17:01.757 --> 17:06.601 [SPEAKER_00]: So I think he's someone who's going to be asked about, and we should probably keep an eye on, but I don't know the chances of a trade there. 17:07.348 --> 17:09.309 [SPEAKER_00]: I just wanted to put that one on the air for their for sure. 17:09.769 --> 17:11.630 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we wanted to talk big bullpen names. 17:11.670 --> 17:14.632 [SPEAKER_01]: That was a discord question from NPN 816. 17:14.692 --> 17:26.058 [SPEAKER_01]: Besides, Mason Miller, what big names could be on the move in that bullpen market, does feel like Hoffman's a guy that we have to watch in the Met's probably wish they could trade Devon Williams, but that contract is too hefty and that performance is too bad. 17:26.378 --> 17:28.960 [SPEAKER_01]: So Luke Weaver is going to be the guy they use there. 17:29.180 --> 17:34.022 [SPEAKER_01]: I, man, if the Philly's in Met's horn in the same division, just replacing Brad Keller, 17:35.707 --> 17:39.233 [SPEAKER_01]: for Dave Denver asking the fillies, but are there any other big bullpen names that come to mind? 17:39.774 --> 17:42.619 [SPEAKER_01]: For me, it's tough in the Marlin's make it tougher. 17:42.860 --> 17:45.605 [SPEAKER_01]: So the Hoffman shout probably does have to be dealt with. 17:46.220 --> 17:56.963 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, if the Marlins end up selling, which, I mean, I don't think that's, like they have Anthony Bender, I think that could be somebody who could, we should keep an eye on here if the Marlins end up scuffling here toward the end. 17:57.603 --> 18:08.185 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm still going to keep mentioning Josh Hader and he's someone who I feel very confident teams across the league are going to be checking in on obviously Houston is going to be the position where they want to buy. 18:16.528 --> 18:20.293 [SPEAKER_00]: And haters make a 19 million a year for the next two seasons. 18:20.313 --> 18:32.230 [SPEAKER_00]: So as contract is not cheap for a closure by any means here, but that being said though, I wonder if they can end up trying to do something where they if they get an offer that they theme is really good. 18:32.652 --> 18:38.636 [SPEAKER_00]: If they move a guy like Hader, try to save that $19 million, and then reinvest it back into the roster in a few different ways. 18:38.656 --> 18:49.963 [SPEAKER_00]: Like the brewer's tried doing that exact same thing when they had Hader on the roster filled epically and they ended up, they did, I remember, they did it when they were in Pittsburgh and all of a sudden their season just went total poo poo. 18:50.403 --> 18:55.625 [SPEAKER_00]: So, they used to have to be very careful with how they go about that if they end up trying to do something like that. 18:56.345 --> 18:58.406 [SPEAKER_00]: But I would imagine a lot of teams are going to check. 18:58.766 --> 19:00.367 [SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be something they're going to have to consider. 19:00.827 --> 19:05.449 [SPEAKER_00]: Do I think it's likely, probably not, but just the overall lack of high-end depth in the market. 19:06.549 --> 19:09.370 [SPEAKER_00]: I think it might give Houston something to consider here for sure. 19:10.113 --> 19:13.676 [SPEAKER_01]: Going through the comments, I need money, 16, St. Louis campus honor the Yankees. 19:13.796 --> 19:18.159 [SPEAKER_01]: I love the way you think, but like Colin Carrot said, we got Austin Wells and Jason Escarra. 19:18.440 --> 19:19.100 [SPEAKER_01]: We're good. 19:19.801 --> 19:21.602 [SPEAKER_01]: No, they should definitely explore that. 19:21.642 --> 19:26.386 [SPEAKER_01]: If they don't explore a higher tier option, I see Yankees questions as well. 19:26.406 --> 19:27.827 [SPEAKER_01]: We will get to them, of course. 19:28.467 --> 19:30.229 [SPEAKER_01]: Got to hit another discord question here. 19:30.749 --> 19:32.471 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's say Terrascouble does get held. 19:32.951 --> 19:35.573 [SPEAKER_01]: Who becomes the biggest rental starter dealt at the deadline? 19:35.633 --> 19:36.513 [SPEAKER_01]: Is it gossmen? 19:36.634 --> 19:37.374 [SPEAKER_01]: Is it fostered? 19:37.394 --> 19:42.017 [SPEAKER_01]: Griffin even Trevor Rogers of the Orals is a question from Frostbrew to the discord. 19:42.097 --> 19:48.922 [SPEAKER_01]: He said Rogers in his opinion could be the biggest but I feel like we're leaning gossmen and I think gossmen is going to be awesome. 19:49.846 --> 20:06.247 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm right there with that and it could be Kevin Gosman and he is going to be drawn a bunch of interest if the jays end up determining that they're going to be selling here and again, I hope the jays don't because baseball is much more exciting when the jays are jays are great and they're competing for world series and 20:06.887 --> 20:10.168 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, they still have time to turn it around here for sure, but it's not looking good. 20:10.208 --> 20:15.209 [SPEAKER_00]: But I think all of those guys he blistered there, Kevin Gosmay would be the name that would stand out to me. 20:15.269 --> 20:19.710 [SPEAKER_00]: But I, I also think Trevor Rogers is someone who is going to be drawing a lot of interest as well. 20:20.070 --> 20:24.791 [SPEAKER_00]: And that a few different teams bring him up to me over like the last 24 hours as a guy who could possibly be on the move. 20:25.452 --> 20:27.532 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, so definitely going to be watching him. 20:27.552 --> 20:31.993 [SPEAKER_00]: And it's, it's also funny to how the narrative around that trade is just totally changed. 20:32.053 --> 20:35.174 [SPEAKER_00]: Because when that trade was made, and immediately like he, 20:35.834 --> 21:01.016 [SPEAKER_00]: essentially forgot how to throw baseball and it was not good and all of a sudden you have Kyle Stowers busting out you have counter-norby doing this thing there and then not Rodgers has been much better and the other guys meanwhile have struggled so it's crazy all just the narrative of a trait conducive to a total 180 but that one is definitely done so and yeah Rodgers can end up being an impact guy that possibly be moved so him and 21:02.642 --> 21:08.944 [SPEAKER_00]: Foster Griffin since you mentioned it to like they are That one is super interesting because do they trade him? 21:09.304 --> 21:31.652 [SPEAKER_00]: They hold on to him or do they extend him like extension like So it's it's July 22nd right now deadlines August 3rd It's like gives you like 11 days to do an extension that could be a Too tight of a timeline to do something like that But my my guess is he's probably going to be moved But I could see it going any which way I think 21:32.092 --> 21:33.635 [SPEAKER_00]: The Nationals really value him. 21:33.795 --> 21:39.184 [SPEAKER_00]: It was Paul Tobones first ever for age and signing with the Nationals and that's been an absolute home run for him. 21:40.246 --> 21:45.295 [SPEAKER_00]: But that one is definitely up in the air as far as the potential outcomes go there for sure. 21:46.222 --> 21:47.542 [SPEAKER_01]: It is July 22nd. 21:47.582 --> 21:49.243 [SPEAKER_01]: The deadline is August 3rd. 21:49.503 --> 21:58.746 [SPEAKER_01]: Are you at least a little surprised that a seller like the giants with a lot of high end pieces or the met who basically came out of the trade deadline and said, hey, we're going to sell. 21:59.226 --> 22:00.407 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, we're just going to do. 22:00.607 --> 22:01.607 [SPEAKER_01]: We're not going to entertain. 22:01.627 --> 22:02.588 [SPEAKER_01]: We're just going to do some selling. 22:02.888 --> 22:06.609 [SPEAKER_01]: Have not cast the first stone yet after declaring their intentions. 22:06.669 --> 22:09.810 [SPEAKER_01]: Like biggest moves have been Nate Pearson and Seth Halverson. 22:10.975 --> 22:14.157 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I should, I think those could be the biggest moves of the debt when I'm just kidding. 22:14.177 --> 22:14.397 [SPEAKER_00]: No. 22:15.017 --> 22:17.839 [SPEAKER_01]: Please, we want to talk about that. 22:17.859 --> 22:18.219 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 22:18.279 --> 22:19.280 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just kidding. 22:19.300 --> 22:25.204 [SPEAKER_00]: But anyways, I'm not surprised because we don't know what this entire market's going to look like. 22:25.464 --> 22:37.731 [SPEAKER_00]: And there's going to be teams that are going to be open to jumping the market for sure, but you're going to want to bigger, more clear picture of what exactly you can get on the market as opposed to like when you're doing with a limited market. 22:37.791 --> 22:38.972 [SPEAKER_00]: And as far as I can tell, 22:39.685 --> 22:42.987 [SPEAKER_00]: We're merely just in the kicking of a tire stage across the league. 22:43.007 --> 22:47.771 [SPEAKER_00]: There's been certain things that I'm kind of surprised are not gotten done. 22:47.911 --> 22:57.258 [SPEAKER_00]: If I'm being honest, but I think the impression that I have in my conversation with the people is that the bulk of the activities you'd come in a few days before the deadline. 22:57.298 --> 22:59.699 [SPEAKER_00]: At this point, it's just the feeling of stage. 22:59.739 --> 23:04.303 [SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of figuring out what exactly is the price, like who's available, and a lot of it's just like, 23:05.053 --> 23:08.137 [SPEAKER_00]: We don't know, that's basically what it is at this point. 23:08.197 --> 23:14.063 [SPEAKER_00]: So as we get closer to the deadline, there's going to be more clarity. 23:14.424 --> 23:16.106 [SPEAKER_00]: But as at this point, they're just not. 23:16.286 --> 23:20.491 [SPEAKER_00]: So we're just kind of left in the limbo and just wondering, like, when's the first move could be made? 23:20.731 --> 23:23.314 [SPEAKER_00]: And then once that happens, maybe the floodgates get open then. 23:23.801 --> 23:28.602 [SPEAKER_01]: Now, teams don't want to turn their seasons into total poo poo, so they're being very cautious. 23:28.763 --> 23:31.363 [SPEAKER_01]: Step to throw out a couple more teams before we sign off. 23:31.663 --> 23:32.304 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah. 23:32.504 --> 23:32.924 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 23:33.324 --> 23:34.304 [SPEAKER_00]: Can I mention something? 23:34.364 --> 23:36.005 [SPEAKER_00]: Because I want to get ahead of this. 23:36.465 --> 23:49.189 [SPEAKER_00]: Is I got so many questions about a potential Andrew Fisher extension at the Milwaukee Brewers, like considering the Steven Nezbid tweet and then Fisher, Fisher tweet, yeah. 23:49.389 --> 23:51.409 [SPEAKER_00]: And then him tweeting like eyeballs or whatever. 23:54.070 --> 23:56.151 [SPEAKER_00]: Coming down the pipeline here like that's not in the works. 23:56.672 --> 23:57.612 [SPEAKER_00]: So Burr's Twitter. 23:57.632 --> 24:11.120 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry to disappoint you, but that is not something that is currently Happening or currently something that's being worked on so I just wanted to put that the bed Because I've seen a lot of people being like wait, is it's like where is the Andrew Fisher news? 24:11.500 --> 24:19.805 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, the news is there is no news But well, hopefully maybe and don't align but as of this point now, so sorry for interrupting, but I had to make sure I got that off my chest 24:20.225 --> 24:28.552 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no fish or news, no news anywhere really like we established nobody's jumping that line the clock is taking just like the pitch clock at Yankees Stadium disrupting gear at coal. 24:29.213 --> 24:45.927 [SPEAKER_01]: We got Yankees with three question marks in William Kelly so I'll just close with them thoughts on their market Aaron Boom was winking and hinting at some guys he wanted yesterday but given no info they need bullpen they could even use some starter depth though max free just back tonight and the offense stinks so they need that's thoughts on the Yankees. 24:46.347 --> 24:47.148 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I 24:48.416 --> 24:50.137 [SPEAKER_00]: They need a good amount on their end. 24:50.177 --> 24:50.618 [SPEAKER_00]: It was funny. 24:50.658 --> 24:59.564 [SPEAKER_00]: I was writing my notes column the other day and I have my list of Yankees's needs and I texted at him I'm like, hey, like can you like can you like can I run this bio? 24:59.584 --> 25:14.295 [SPEAKER_00]: Can you like give me your take on this and he basically said they need almost everything Then which was which was kind of funny, but they do and they they need to be aggressive at this deadline Whether it's adding to the bullpen or adding different bats or whatever and I expect Brian Cashman to definitely be 25:15.055 --> 25:16.556 [SPEAKER_00]: active in this market here for sure. 25:17.597 --> 25:21.540 [SPEAKER_00]: I do wonder who exactly Aaron Boone was hinting at as far as a guy that he wanted. 25:21.560 --> 25:23.942 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, is it could it be a Mason Miller type? 25:23.962 --> 25:25.262 [SPEAKER_00]: Could it be whoever else? 25:25.383 --> 25:26.283 [SPEAKER_00]: I have no idea. 25:26.483 --> 25:30.006 [SPEAKER_00]: I've been trying to figure that out since I've gotten absolutely nowhere. 25:30.046 --> 25:39.252 [SPEAKER_00]: So we'll see, but I definitely think Cashman is going to be active, although I don't know if it's going to be in something where it's like that super, super splashy thing. 25:40.013 --> 25:40.213 [SPEAKER_00]: Again, 25:43.275 --> 25:47.456 [SPEAKER_00]: uh, but I do expect them to be in the mix and probably make multiple moves here for sure. 25:48.016 --> 25:56.439 [SPEAKER_01]: Game events are greedy every year, but this is definitely a year where like you could give them any number of trade acquisitions and fans who were like, yep, need that, need that, that makes sense. 25:56.479 --> 25:59.020 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, there really is no amount that is overkill. 25:59.440 --> 26:00.300 [SPEAKER_01]: And hey, guess what? 26:00.660 --> 26:02.421 [SPEAKER_01]: Every fan kind of feels that way this season. 26:02.681 --> 26:06.702 [SPEAKER_01]: That's why come back on Friday, ask us 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