[SPEAKER_02]: Welcome to the Toolshed, a podcast covering all levels of professional baseball to help give you the edge in your dynasty leagues, from the MLB draft, all the way to the show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome in to another episode of the tool shed podcast brought to you by Rotobar.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is episode 460.
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for joining us.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm your host, Eric Cross.
[SPEAKER_01]: And joining me as usual is my co-host, Mr. Toby Shoman.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's going good.
[SPEAKER_00]: We had a little bit of an unexpected week.
[SPEAKER_00]: I ate us there last week, but feels good to be back in recording.
[SPEAKER_00]: We got a fun one today going over the draft.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, absolutely.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry, everyone for no episode last week.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just stuff happened for both of us and just didn't line up last week, but so come back at you with two episodes this week today, you know, Tuesday as you listen to this.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then again, later in the week on Friday, we got a fun one going over the MLB draft and this one.
[SPEAKER_01]: Not doing a mock draft or anything like that, we'll do that later in the off season, probably October and November, but going over some of the, you know, the fun players, early looking some rankings here, a lot of interesting names going near the top of the draft this year.
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll talk about a lot of those names before we do the usual housekeeping.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, before we get into, you know, all the picks and the rankings and who went where, you know, tell me, well, just your general thoughts on this year's draft class.
[SPEAKER_01]: I say, whether any, any surprises that kind of threw a curve ball at you in the draft is, you know, what your thoughts on the gover all talent of the draft class, what do you think here?
[SPEAKER_00]: There were a couple surprises, and I mean, there is every single draft, but they were scattered completely everywhere.
[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't like we got a ton of surprises in the top 10 or a ton of surprises within, you know, the 10 to 20 range.
[SPEAKER_00]: They came across, you know, rounds one through five, even, and especially on day one.
[SPEAKER_00]: The talent's great across the board.
[SPEAKER_00]: I've heard people call it a very top heavy draft.
[SPEAKER_00]: I've
[SPEAKER_00]: would probably agree with that, but I think when you get down to even some of the fourth fifth round picks, there were still a lot of guys that I think teams got really good value out of, and you know, I guess, you know, time will only tell what the talent looks like once they reach the professional ranks, but I think, really solid, classic excited to see how a lot of these guys pan out.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, absolutely.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it might not be like the most like, you know, star started loaded draft class, but, you know, there's a lot of good talent at the top.
[SPEAKER_01]: You may be not anybody that stands out head and shoulders, you know, above the rest, though there's kind of those two guys that kind of stick out as like the
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the top tier so to speak, but yeah, I think there's a lot of good talent here.
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe not so much on, you know, the pitching side, at least at the top.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, a couple of names of stand out, but I think there's like a sizeable like third tier.
[SPEAKER_01]: of pitchers, especially in the college ranks this year.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, and not a lot of those stand up.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's no Paul schemes types in this draft.
[SPEAKER_01]: Probably not even, you know, I South Hernandez type in this draft or Kate Anderson, but definitely a lot of fun.
[SPEAKER_01]: And a lot of interesting town, you know, some boomer bus guys that were just really intriguing is where they would go, you know, guys, you know, for instance, the the biggest one here just in the brawn.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was really kind of intrigued to see where he would go.
[SPEAKER_01]: We've got that.
[SPEAKER_01]: enter the year when it's one of the top guys or then I'd have kind of up and down spring then then he fell a little bit here but now let's go over some of the list some of the top picks here and we'll get into you know early top 10 rankings here and talk about some guys that landed in some favorable or not so favorable spots.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the top 10 draft order here was the Chicago white socks, Tampa Bay Rays, Minnesota Twins, San Francisco Giants, Pittsburgh Pirates, Kansas City Royals, Baltimore Orioles, the athletics at eight and then nine ten was the Atlanta Braves and the Colorado Rockies,
[SPEAKER_01]: And after some speculation that it might be Grady Emerson, the white socks did end up going where the Rock Chaloski, the short stop from the UCLA, Grady Emerson, prep short stop out of Texas, went number two to the raise, Vaughn Lacky, catch your out of Georgia Tech, when number three to the twins.
[SPEAKER_01]: Jackson Flora, right hand or out of UC Santa Barboy, one four to the Giants, Derek Cariel, outfielder out of LSU, went number five to the Pittsburgh Pirates, Zion Rose, outfielder out of Louisville, went six to the Royals, Eric Booth Jr. prep outfielder out of Mississippi, went number seven to Baltimore,
[SPEAKER_01]: Juberus, outfielder out of Georgia Tech, learn about fielders here in this back after the top 10, went number eight to the athletics.
[SPEAKER_01]: Another outfielder, AJ Garcia, went to number nine to Atlanta out of the University of Virginia.
[SPEAKER_01]: And number 10, the Rockies took Tyler Bell, short stop out of Kentucky,
[SPEAKER_01]: It's to round out that top 10.
[SPEAKER_01]: So pretty fun top 10, but like I mentioned, that the top two in some order, whether you want, you know, Chaloski, the Nmerson, or Emerson, then Chaloski, one, two, one A, one B, you know, those are kind of the top two for most people here.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, very different profiles.
[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, one's a collegiate bat, you know, who's 21 years old, yeah, the one is a high school bat.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the, you know, the ETA, the time one of these guys is gonna be quite a bit different with, you know, rock, probably getting to the majors.
[SPEAKER_01]: We know roughly two or even two and a half years before we had the Amerson.
[SPEAKER_01]: So in your mind here, Toby, who is the top bat in this draft class?
[SPEAKER_01]: Is it rock, is it Amerson, or maybe even someone else?
[SPEAKER_01]: How do you see that chicken out at the top?
[SPEAKER_00]: Top bat, honestly, I would lean more toward Grady Emerson just because he has the age on rock.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he has a better hit tool if not, just kind of the same.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think his hit tool's nearing more towards the plus plus range than rocks is.
[SPEAKER_00]: Rocks got far and away the better glove.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think everybody could agree on that, but if we're talking about the bat and purely how much upside you're getting with the bat, I think Grady Emerson takes it there, but I think the white socks are really just looking
[SPEAKER_00]: best all around play are available and I think at the end of the day, you can't really everything that rocks too good.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and especially with the white socks, you know, being good right now, I think that kind of factor them maybe if I think if they were still kind of like in the beginning stages of a rebuild and maybe they're, you know, only like a, you know, 42% with percentage team right now or something like that instead of being, you know, one of the better teams in the American League this year.
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe they go Anderson, but since their timeline is kind of, you know, sped up a little bit and they've gotten back to being a good team, a contending team, you know, I think sooner than most people thought, I think Joloski definitely fit their timeline a little bit better here because, you know, I mentioned she's going to be up, you know, probably around two seasons sooner and he could be up by just time next year.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that advanced of a bat and
[SPEAKER_01]: I got absolutely dominated in college, especially his final two years, a huge breakout in 2025, 2026 hit 353, 480 BP in a 710 slug last year this year, not quite as great, but still very good 320, 452, 636 over 20 bombs each season, you know, as many walks of strikeouts or more.
[SPEAKER_01]: And each of the last two seasons as well, you know, not a guy that give you a lot of speed impact, you know, so he'll be more of like the, you know, Corey see your type of shortstop where it's, you know, more so the four categories without, you're giving you much terms of stolen bases, but I mean, there's a lot to like in terms of.
[SPEAKER_01]: is contact abilities, the approach, the raw power, and it's all there to be a really good middle of the other bat that's hitting home runs, hitting for average, driving and runs.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, that's maybe a fun, you know, it would already is a fun team for the white socks, but I kind of wonder like how they're going to work everybody in, you know, once like bottom or gets up, once rocks up, you know, how that in-field looks, you know, with
[SPEAKER_01]: you know, Vargas in the mix, Chase Myraus were in pretty solid, obviously Colson Montgomery, you know, as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, they're building something there.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, I do have, you know, rock ahead up Emerson, you know, in my rankings as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, like I kind of wrote into my article, as I put up my FYPD rankings version one of my top 100, yesterday, it was out on Monday, the 20th.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, check that on my Patreon, but as I wrote there, you know, if you're,
[SPEAKER_01]: a contending dynasty team.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it makes a lot of sense.
[SPEAKER_01]: Kind of similar to what the white socks.
[SPEAKER_01]: It makes a lot of sense to go with a guy like Chaloski.
[SPEAKER_01]: But you know, if you're in the, you know, midst of a rebuild in your dynasty league, I could see going Emerson because I think if you're looking at
[SPEAKER_01]: your upside and ceiling offensively for fantasy purposes.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think you can make a case that Emerson might have a little more upside just because of the speed he brings in.
[SPEAKER_01]: And like you mentioned Toby, you know, the hit tool so advanced with this kid.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he might, you know, regardless of, you know, prep or collegiate bat, you can make case he might have the best hit tool in the draft.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's definitely in that conversation and you know, maybe it's not huge power and he's not burned by any means, but you know, and I hate to make comparisons and this might be a little unfair, but he gives me like if anybody would have come become like the next Kevin McGonagall.
[SPEAKER_01]: where you know it's hitting for high average getting on bass and you know some power some speed but not like massive in either area and what's the kind of feels like that so you can make a case that he's just the more well rounded kind of like all around five category fantasy guys so I like him getting in the Tampa Bay and I think those are really good landing spot there too.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah absolutely I love that comp two to McGonagall.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I hate doing comps, usually I suck at them.
[SPEAKER_01]: I hate when people ask me, oh, what's the comp on this guy?
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm usually like, either I don't know or I just don't want to do it, I just hate comps.
[SPEAKER_01]: But sometimes it kind of hits me and I'm like, I can't, I try to the nudges out of my mind.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, no, don't comp them to McDonald's.
[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, McDonald's is phenomenal and one of the best rookies in baseball this year.
[SPEAKER_01]: But if anybody were to be the next McDonald's, I think Emerson has a good chance of being that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, let's get into the rankings though.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's my top 10 here for FY PDs.
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, my full top 100 is out on my Patreon.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I do have Rock Chaloski or as he was called by the commissioner to Luski.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think is that how man for said it to Luski or.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that was a hard watch.
[SPEAKER_01]: He said Chalewski right out of the gate.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's just butcher in the first world for all fixed names.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's great.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's okay Rob.
[SPEAKER_01]: We love you.
[SPEAKER_01]: Kind of sometimes.
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, it's a rock to husky number one.
[SPEAKER_01]: I do have Brady Emerson number two.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's kind of chalk right there.
[SPEAKER_01]: So then at three, I think you can go thousand different ways.
[SPEAKER_01]: You can
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe even half a dozen names at three I'm going I have Jacob Lumbard at three and he's a pretty decisive player because huge power speed upside and he's you know George Lumbard's a little brother you know a lot of you know the big baseball family obviously his dad played back in the 80s and 90s as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I have Jacob Lumbar, number three.
[SPEAKER_01]: He went to the Miami Marlins at pick 16.
[SPEAKER_01]: I have Jackson Floor at number four.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then probably the biggest surprise in my top 10.
[SPEAKER_01]: And if you saw me post a little picture when I posted my article on Twitter, you saw that I have Sawyer's Strokeshider at number five.
[SPEAKER_01]: Outfiler to one, two, Milwaukee.
[SPEAKER_01]: In the second round at pick 66.
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll get into him in a little bit here.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I just love the,
[SPEAKER_01]: Power Speed Blum, but there are some questions there as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: Age of Gracia, who might be the second best, you know, pure collegiate bats in the draft behind Chalowski.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think in number six, I have on lucky at number seven, Eric Booth at number eight, Juberess at number nine, and Ace Reese, who I was really hoping the Red Sox would take at picked 20, they did not, but Ace Reese who went pick 24 to the Seattle Mariners.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's definitely a bat they needed, and that's a great hand of power bat there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Ace Reese going at pick 24 to the Giant, not the Giant's, the Mariners, I have him at
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, once you get past those top two, who's like, if you were in the FIPD, you had the number three pick here Toby, let's just assume Chaloski's off the board and let's assume that great Emerson's off the board.
[SPEAKER_01]: Who would you go with the number three?
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, again, you can go a million different ways.
[SPEAKER_01]: What's your preference there, number three?
[SPEAKER_00]: I would go pretty chalk and take Von Lackey at three.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know there's probably split opinions on him in terms of fantasy, but this is a guy who just turned 21, I think, just a couple of weeks ago, the floors so high with him that I feel like you know what you're getting, obviously very elite defensive catcher, but we saw him just tear the cover off the baseball this year and you know, I've seen some of the underlying metrics with Vaughn Lacky and they compare pretty much
[SPEAKER_00]: hand in hand with Rochalowski too.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I would probably take him, but I might be a little bit biased in that realm because I've been tracking Lackey since the start of this year and he's been one of my favorite prospects in the entire draft.
[SPEAKER_00]: I tried mocking him one in my mock drafts, but I just couldn't do it.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I guess, you know, for all intensive purposes here, I'll just take him in this pick at number three.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and that's that's fair.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he went number three in the mock rap I did on the Rotowire Prospect podcast, the other night, I think it was last Wednesday nights, we did that, you know, James Anderson obviously on the Rotowire Prospect pod.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was me, James Chris Welsh and Lucas, aka the Prospect Professor on Twitter.
[SPEAKER_01]: We did 24 picks there and then I believe Lacky would number three.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they're either set to pick and went with Greedy Emerson,
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's definitely a pick.
[SPEAKER_01]: You can he's definitely in that like cluster of names there real quick though.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think I said that ace racers are ready about he is not he's a lefty bass want to correct myself there, but you know you have on lacky definitely in that mix I think you can make a case for him you can make a case if you want to go picture and you're like you know what none of these bats.
[SPEAKER_01]: really stand out to me among the rest of the group after the top two if you want to go pitcher and go jacks in flora.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's fine.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think again my number three Jacob Blumbar the upside is definitely there.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know there's some some risk with Blumbar but I think you can go you know make a case for him there and maybe even make a case for you know a guy like you know aging grassy or even Drew Burris.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think to people are pretty high on him as
[SPEAKER_01]: out of out of this draft class.
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, let's go to my number three though here with Jacob Blumbar who, you know, as I mentioned, has, you know, a lot of upside, but, you know, there are some question marks with the hit tool.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, there's some question marks with, you maybe there's a little too much string and miss in the profile, but you look at just the upside he brings the table.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a premium athlete and we're talking plus or better runner.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's got
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, if he fills up the frame with a base up that nice predictable frame 63 and that 185 that you know, you definitely can see him adding a little bit more bulk and power, but it comes down to the hit tool.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the cigar that's, you know, could become one of the best projects in the game or we've seen these high upside power speed guys just never really figured out kind of fizzle out and once they get up into the upper minors.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, with all the the good and the bad here.
[SPEAKER_01]: with Jacob Blumbar Toby, where do you fall on him?
[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously he's a very decisive player.
[SPEAKER_00]: I might be a little bit biased on this player as well.
[SPEAKER_00]: I've seen what George Blumbar has done in the Yankees or for the last few seasons and how much he's improved.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I really don't see how Jacob Blumbar will follow suit a little bit.
[SPEAKER_00]: I just look back at Blumbar's draft.
[SPEAKER_00]: George Blumbar's draft profile to see what his tools were looking like according to MLB.
[SPEAKER_00]: Jacob's look.
[SPEAKER_00]: way better in terms of just grades going into the draft.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hit tool, I know is a concern.
[SPEAKER_00]: I've heard that people, again, like you said, Eric, there's too much whiff during the high school circuit or whatnot, but you know, you think about the arms that are in that circuit now, compared to what they were even half a decade ago.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the arms are so talented that you got to think once a pro or gets their hands on Jacob Lumbar, especially the marlins that they're going to be able to tweak with him and figure something out there.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm very high on Jacob Lumbar.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's going to turn into a really solid prospect and when you look back on this class,
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's probably going to be the biggest deal of that first round.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm definitely right there with you.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, there's obviously work to be done.
[SPEAKER_01]: But like you mentioned, the Miami Marlins, you know, pretty, you know, like a sneaky good or whatever you really get talked about much, especially for the hitting side.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they get talked about a little bit on the pitching side of player development.
[SPEAKER_01]: But, yeah, Miami, sneaky good or there's while they've been, then a lot of good work.
[SPEAKER_01]: And over the last several years, and you know, I talked about Emerson, maybe having, you know, higher upside for fantasy than rock.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think if a 50 grade hit tool Jacob Lumbar has the highest offensive ceiling in the Strat class, I fully believe that this guy could be 25 plus home runs 30 plus steals and.
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, this is this what I'm going to say do not take this as a comp to this guy, but I seem to remember another really exciting prep short stop with a big power lots of speed that some hit tool question marks year or two ago, that is now, you know, one of the best young players in all baseball and kind of Griffin again, not a comp to kind of Griffin.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't, you know, it's the the concerns.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think are like really loud right there's some concerns.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a little too much string and mess.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not like a glaring red flag.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like it's the 30 grade hit tool we're talking about here.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, I'm not one their shy life and these types work.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, like you said, get them into an pro org.
[SPEAKER_01]: all the people, all the data, and to see what happens, because if they, you know, at least get it again to just 50-year-old head tool, you're looking at a really, really special player with Jacob Lombard, so I am totally fine.
[SPEAKER_01]: If I have picked three, I'm totally fine going with him.
[SPEAKER_01]: But he's one where, you know, at that pick three, you might be able to trade down of, you know, several spots that still get the guy you want, kind of later in that top 10, because again, there's no clear cut three, four or five.
[SPEAKER_01]: after Chaloski and Grady Emerson, but the guy I have at five is another guy that I don't think you're going to see nearly this high in other FYPD rankings and then again Sawyer's Stroestiner outfielder for the Milwaukee Brewers now who went pick 66 to them got that fell a little bit further than I was thinking about that I thought he would you know in drafts but
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, some hit tool concerns, but a really fun power speed blends, you know, he had in his last, or his two years at TCU combined for 24 bombs, 24 doubles as well, 14 triples, it's a lot of extra base hits, 22 deals in 28 attempts.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, this is 106 games combined with a
[SPEAKER_01]: again, the the Sashan did drop or was the the batting average dropped.
[SPEAKER_01]: He actually had a higher ISO than the previous year, and so BP was nearly identical, because he more than doubled his walk rate, too.
[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, Toby was first under, yeah, the average, you know, wasn't like great for I got at you, you know, one of the better collegiate bats in the class, but.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the walk rate went up a lot, the K-rate, you know, not terrible.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was about the same as the previous year.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it was like the K-rate skyrocket or anything like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: But what do you make of Schroes honor to me?
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's a guy that'll probably be ranked more in the teens, you know, or maybe even closer to 20, and then most other F-lipity rankings.
[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, what do you make of Schroes honor and this this profile in general?
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's a...
[SPEAKER_00]: It's the classic like power hitter profile I think and you just add the plus speed that he gives to it as well.
[SPEAKER_00]: Really solid trades defensively and I think that's also something the brewer saw and we're like we could get the most out of this kid.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I think that pick is one of my favorites in the whole draft and I've seen multiple people say that you've seen what they've done with Andrew Fisher this year.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's not like the hit tools got in crazy good, but
[SPEAKER_00]: It's been slight improvements and I think that's what they're going to do is they're just going to implement slight improvements over time and he's eventually going to at least be like a 50-grade hit tool guy.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean You got to think with the system that and the job that they've done with all these guys, you know, and I'm going to keep going back to Andrew Fisher.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they're going to get the most out of Sawyer Stroke Snyder.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to hit that power ceiling pretty easily.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think with them just a matter of I guess.
[SPEAKER_00]: where the hit tool goes over the course of time, but I think they'll get it to at least average.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and that's that's all I'm really asking.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, obviously, I love the bird to be higher than that, but just give me, you know, at like a 25260 hitter, he's probably going to have a good OBP, you know, I'm hoping that, you know, the approach gains and the kind of the, you know, getting on base at higher clip that we soften him this spring, you know, that trends let's over into the minor leagues.
[SPEAKER_01]: We shall see on that, but yeah, I love the auto on upside and it's given again that there's just not
[SPEAKER_01]: And the other stand-out guys in that range, I'll take a little bit of a risk here.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm maybe planting my flag, so to speak on Skorstiner, but I like to deep the profile a lot here with him.
[SPEAKER_01]: But other names here, in my top 10, Toby, that kind of stand out to you.
[SPEAKER_01]: You may be a Garcia with Atlanta, Eric Booth, you and Drew Burris, and any other names that you're like, All right, I'm really high on that guy.
[SPEAKER_00]: I have to say Drew Burris first off just because I mean, a couple of years ago, I thought this was a sure fire top three pick in the draft and obviously that's not how things always pan out given money and just other things but to see him go to the A's was like damn, Jamie Arnold last year now Drew Burris this year.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was so excited to see them get Drew Burris in this draft and
[SPEAKER_00]: This is a really underrated prospect.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think where he went.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is like a true five-tool player almost.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you can tap into a little bit more of what he has on every single tool, hit tools solid, the powers well plus could be even better, strong arms, solid glove, like there's nothing to not like with Drew Burris and I think that he will end up being one of the better players from this draft class.
[SPEAKER_00]: I've been high on Drew Burris for a long time and I don't think that's changing anytime soon.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's like one of those with that saying a jack of all trades master of none or something like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're he's just really solid across the board.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like there's no loud tool like probably not a 30 home or a guy probably not 30 steel guy and like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: But this guy's just getting steady production across the board and he's at be getting into a good lineup up there with the athletics.
[SPEAKER_01]: They got a lot of good young talent on the opposite side of things.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it'll be a pretty fun lineup for him to get into.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he can get on base enough to maybe be someone that hits right in front of Nick Kurtz and Tyler Sodor's trauma and all those guys.
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I think he's one of those.
[SPEAKER_01]: He kind of reminds me a little bit of, you kind of like Matt Shaw when he was drafted where it was just like, all right, Matt, Matt Shaw didn't have a lot of excitement just because those other guys that were more exciting with louder tools, but like he ended up being, you know, like a top 10, top 20, prospecting the game, you know, a couple years later.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, maybe the MLB career has been going to court in the plan so far.
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like, you know, Burris, maybe one of those guys that continues to sneak up on people, maybe fly into the radar to some degree, because he doesn't have that one loud standout tool, but it's a really solid ball player, and I like that landing spot with him a lot.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the other one I wanted to mention real quick, you know, AJ Grossio, I mentioned the MIP,
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the second best overall collegiate bat in this raf class.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, not like I give you a lot of speed.
[SPEAKER_01]: He might give you a, you know, maybe five to ten steals a year, but, you know, the bat is just really, really good, you know, more walks and strikeouts, each of the last two years, you know, the first one of which being at Duke, and you know, it was first two years of his collegiate career right Duke, and then he transferred out to Virginia, you know, where, you know, he really took off, you know,
[SPEAKER_01]: slash line this spring 15 doubles 14 bombs 47 walks just 38 strikeouts and last year yet a 57 walks 36 strikeouts.
[SPEAKER_01]: So over all 104 walks to just 74 strikeouts over the last two seasons.
[SPEAKER_01]: Got to just above average hitter, you know, above average to plus power could be
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like a 270, 25, 30 home run type, something like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Guy gets on base of the high clip as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I love that landing spot, you know, with the Atlanta Braves, the keys are going to be guy that moves very quickly.
[SPEAKER_01]: And really, you know, Drew Burris and Grascia could be, you know, two of the guys that get up to the majors, you know, the quickest out of this draft last, at least on the heading side.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, two really fun, collegiate bats there for sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: At the back end on the top 10, number 11 in my rankings.
[SPEAKER_01]: Except we're going to talk about here.
[SPEAKER_01]: who I mentioned, you know, a little while ago, just in LeBron, he ended up falling to the Cincinnati Rads, which is a really fun landing spot.
[SPEAKER_01]: And his profile at Graham Racken Ball Park.
[SPEAKER_01]: But again, he used to go that entering the spring, like when I first put together, it was like, all right, let me, what's my top 10 top 20 book like here, as the,
[SPEAKER_01]: you know, the season started for college baseball and I think I had LeBron.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I had to ask you one, I forget if LeBron was two or three, but I think I had him top three, and he started off the season really, really hot, and then pulled off a good bit.
[SPEAKER_01]: End of the season hitting 277 with a 386 O BP, 534 slug,
[SPEAKER_01]: But then I have 16 home runs and 42 steals after going 18 home or 17 steals last year at Alabama, you know, really fun power speed blend, which at that ballpark that he, you know, is going to be playing at down the road.
[SPEAKER_01]: could be a really, really fun player.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I think there's even more hit tool concerns here, you know, then with Lombard, you know, then we have with Strosounder as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, so what do you make of Justin Lebron?
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he might be the biggest, you know, or at least not if not the biggest one of the biggest boomer bust, you know, guys in this in this first round.
[SPEAKER_01]: So where do you fall on Justin Lebron?
[SPEAKER_00]: It's funny, that's exactly what I was going to say about him, is that it's just a big boomer bus prospect for this class.
[SPEAKER_00]: It seems like a classic reds pick, I mean, just when you look at their system as a whole, I mean, they like the guys with a bit more power upside, and if we have to work on the hit to a little bit, they will guys like Cam, Collier, Tyson, Lewis just come to mind.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, I don't really know what to expect out of the run.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not.
[SPEAKER_00]: That confident that the reds are going to tap into making his hit tool an average or even above average tool, but I think they'll make sure that he's at least a 20 home or guy a year to see him steal nearly 50 bases this year for Alabama was awesome because, you know, not a lot of other things really improve besides dropping that K percentage.
[SPEAKER_00]: kind of has a ton of pop, really, really solid athlete and a solid short stop as well.
[SPEAKER_00]: But what's really going to hold him back is just that hit tool.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know he whiffs against secondary offerings quite a bit.
[SPEAKER_00]: Those don't exactly get any worse when you hit pro ball.
[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll see how he manages to fare against those offerings once he's actually professional.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm excited nonetheless because you know we'll get those highlights of him hitting some pretty long homers to see if that hit tool comes through a little bit more.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, this could go in a number of ways.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you mentioned since that is going to go on more with the upside and hey, when it works out, you have a really fun player.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, obviously, the other crews kind of the the epitome of it working out when it turns into one of the best players.
[SPEAKER_01]: in all a baseball, but then you have it go the other way.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, if I feel like with the brawn, and this is, again, this is not a direct comment, but it kind of feels like a little bit like a Vance honey cut a few years ago, just because honey cut just excelled everywhere else besides the hit tool.
[SPEAKER_01]: And with honey cut outside of him, going absolutely bizarre and spring training has really, really struggle.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's like the other end of the spectrum
[SPEAKER_01]: when it goes really poorly you get the antenna cut.
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, with these types of, you know, where they're stand out and forward tools and, you know, blow average or worse and one.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the range of outcomes definitely widens, but, you know, I like LeBron.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's another guy that, you know, maybe he's only got to hit you, you know, 23240.
[SPEAKER_01]: But great American blockpark has a way of boosting batting average as higher than they probably should be giving up like a player's context skills.
[SPEAKER_01]: But if you can just keep it somewhat respectable, you know, not be a 35% KRA in
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, 62% contact rate or a guy or anything like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think you could always see that power at speed, you know, just the, the all run impact that he can bring to the table outside the hits will really flourish.
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, that's why I haven't met 11.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I was starting to weigh the pros and cons with the Justin LeBron, you know, I think the, you know, the pros are very prevalent, but that one con is also very prevalent.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll see, but
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I have him at number 11 next time I have a number 12, but I'll go through the rest of my top 25 and then we'll get in some other names here so 11 through 15.
[SPEAKER_01]: I have just in the brawn Tyler Bell, you know, sure stuff want to call a rado.
[SPEAKER_01]: Derek Kirill, out footer to want to Pittsburgh, Trevor Condon, prep out footer to want to St. Louis, and Liam Peterson, pitcher to want to cleave one, we'll definitely talk about him in a minute here.
[SPEAKER_01]: Got 15, 16 through 20.
[SPEAKER_01]: I have a geo roll-hoss prep lefty that went to the Texas Rangers, Chris Acopian, in Florida to want to the nationals, Cameron Flooky, pitcher that went to Detroit at 18, Zion Rose, out footer to the Royals.
[SPEAKER_01]: I have him at 19.
[SPEAKER_01]: Keaton Serrell outfitter to the Cubs, I have him at 20, 21 through 25.
[SPEAKER_01]: I have Jared Greenlander potential to a player, but was not announced as such to the angels 21, Bolorance third baseman or announced the shortstop.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's a third baseman.
[SPEAKER_01]: to the Dodgers, which I love that pick.
[SPEAKER_01]: Tyler Spangler, shortstop, went to the fillies, prep shortstop by him at 23.
[SPEAKER_01]: Daniel Jackson, who put up to stupid, couldn't numbers it towards the last year.
[SPEAKER_01]: The last spring, I should say, catch a little bit of outfield.
[SPEAKER_01]: He went to Colorado.
[SPEAKER_01]: I have him at 24 and running at my top 25.
[SPEAKER_01]: Tyler Bell, I think another one that's gaining some hype here, I mean, he was already the guy that was kind of thought of as like maybe he could top to one guy in this draft, but then he lands a Colorado and you know, all that excitement just gets amplified because hey, it's the Rockies, but
[SPEAKER_01]: At the same time, the Rockies don't exactly, you know, have like the greatest track record of development.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, and I'm just going to cancel out the course field of fact, where it's like, oh, that could be really great, but, you know, they'll probably ruin them.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, well, I can't, I can't be the only one that thinks like that with the Rockies, but.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, Bell in this last year at Kentucky this spring, 41 games, he had nine home runs, 10 steals, 30 walks, 36 straightouts, and the 343, 510, 608 slug, he was also hit 20 times.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, that definitely gets on base, a ton, and a variety of different ways.
[SPEAKER_01]: What are you thoughts here on Tyler Bell, Toby, because I'm seeing a lot of different rankings, and a lot of different opinions on him.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, where do you have him in the grand scheme of things?
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm very intrigued on Tyler Bell.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think mainly just because he's a switchheader, that's pretty well rounded as a prospect.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is one of those guys, like you've already mentioned, Jack of all trades, but master of none really, and I don't wanna say he's a master of none necessarily.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is a guy who has a pretty strong arm from shortstop, really solid glove too, so you like the upside there and him possibly stick in their long term, but I mean, the power, it's average, the hit tools also kind of great at his average as well.
[SPEAKER_00]: playing at cores, those probably become plus tools though.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that'd be interesting to see once he reaches the highest level how that really ends up panning out.
[SPEAKER_00]: But when you look at the situation at the major leagues in a ZQL toe of our not being the best defensive shortstop, if, you know, even in above average one, I think this is a great pick.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think they got a guy who's defensively sound and I think playing in that system with Colorado, the bats only going to be even better and it's already graded.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, he's a guy that, you know, I liked Tyler Bell.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't love Tyler Bell, I don't see even with, you know, the chorus field boost that he'll get.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't see him as like a 25 home or bad.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't see him steal in 25 bags or anything like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, but, you know, he could hit for a decent average.
[SPEAKER_01]: He can get on based, you know, we've seen that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, OBED was over 500.
[SPEAKER_01]: this spring.
[SPEAKER_01]: The guy gets on base and there's solid pops solid speed.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's nothing that don't really value it.
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I think he's a guy that could kind of sneak up with some people, you know, be a nice little, you know, well rounded five category guy, but maybe just not have that that big power speed production.
[SPEAKER_01]: But
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, definitely, you know, that thinks it's solid bad.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I haven't had it in number 12.
[SPEAKER_01]: So he's close to my top 10, he'll be a fun one to see where he can ends up.
[SPEAKER_01]: Once we really get into, you know, first-year player drafts for fantasy leaks this off season.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he could be guy who goes top 10 and a lot of drafts or maybe even falls out of the top 20.
[SPEAKER_01]: He actually went number five overall, James Anderson is super high in him.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, and that was definitely a fun pick there.
[SPEAKER_01]: So,
[SPEAKER_01]: Tyler Bell going to the Colorado Rockies, my number 12 guy, but go down and go into a couple more spots at number 15.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's talk about a very exciting picture in Liam Peterson, who I think with if everything clicks with Liam Peterson and it's fun to get him into that Cleveland organization, obviously.
[SPEAKER_01]: They've done a lot of good with a lot of pictures over the years.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, if they figure out Peterson and then unlock his full potential, I think the ceiling for him is higher than even it is for Jackson floor.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I like Jackson floor too, but I think, you know, you could at least put Peterson on that level.
[SPEAKER_01]: A guy that has a deep arsenal of pictures that he can miss bats with, you know, mid to upper 90s fastball.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's got two really good breaking balls
[SPEAKER_01]: But the thing that's gotten him in some trouble and the reason why he didn't have the most stellar ratios in college, especially this spring, your era was over four this spring.
[SPEAKER_01]: Here's that, you know, the walk rate, you know, little high in straight throwing ability, kind of comes and goes as does just the overall command of his offerings.
[SPEAKER_01]: But man, Toby, getting this type of arm talent into this Cleveland organization is really exciting.
[SPEAKER_00]: I agree with everything you said, Eric, I think this is going to be a stud front line starter for the Guardians.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he could not have asked for a better team to go to.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think maybe the Mariners would have been a equal system to fit him.
[SPEAKER_00]: But six foot five, two, twenty five.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, this is just the frame that you need for a big league starter.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you already mentioned the stuff, but I feel like it could play in the major leagues right now, if not the upper levels of the minor league.
[SPEAKER_00]: So to be interesting to see, you know, where they start them out in the system.
[SPEAKER_00]: You mentioned everything about the stuff that controls really just the only issue.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know a lot of people think that the guardians will be able to fix that pretty easily.
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll see.
[SPEAKER_00]: But the stuff's amazing, fast balls unbelievable, curve ball solid, sliders the best offering by far.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm just excited to see how they further develop the change up or if they give them another offering there.
[SPEAKER_00]: So much to like about this pick, it was, you know, one of if not my favorite picks all giraffe.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the one thing I always let to say, you know, especially with people that look at where a player was drafted in terms like what number pick they were don't let the that influence that your thought on a player is a lot of things going to know where a player could strap it obviously, but when a player gets to a certain team, you know, both positively and negatively, and that can really push a player up or down.
[SPEAKER_01]: rank because I got I was already high on Peterson by bump them up.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think I had them like 20.
[SPEAKER_01]: Probably a 23-ish and still top 25, but then he went to Cleveland.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, yep, you're going up in seven good seven right spots.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the same thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, we said the other way where who is a Logan Reddeman who I like is just arm talent went to the Rockies and I'm like, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's super high and you anymore, this just happens every year, but I was actually really glad because with the Rockies at pic 10 I was sitting down was like, Just don't take one of these like fun second tier.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, don't take like a geo row host, don't take a Peterson, don't take a fluke year worth away.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just leave those guys to add their organizations and take a guy in the second round that I'm not.
[SPEAKER_01]: you know that don't care about quite as much so yeah definitely you know where certain players land absolutely you know could be you know very you know versus very telling for the talent and just you know giving them a nice boost you know one way or the other and definitely can influence these guys value and another thing too well you know take a look at you know pick value what these guys actually sign for you know especially guys that go later that sign for for over slots you know like the red socks a couple of those guys in the 9th and 10th
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, that shows, all right, there's a lot of talent, but there was some accountability concerns, but that's why you go under slot early to get some of these guys later on and sign them away from their collegiate commitment.
[SPEAKER_01]: So a lot of things go into where a player gets drafted, but yet definitely focus more on where they end up team wise and kind of what they sign for as opposed to what number pick, you know, they were, but, you know, whether any other players, you know, outside, you know, Peter's in the bell, guys, we
[SPEAKER_01]: other landing spots that you really liked at the top of the straff at the top or just just just even if it's around two or three and the enemy spots where you're like man I like that fit
[SPEAKER_00]: I got to say I like the Trevor Condon fit to the St. Louis Cardinals.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, when a player gets PCA comms, I'm all over it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I saw so many clips of Trevor Condon to when he was playing for Eddleau this year in his senior year, just going crazy.
[SPEAKER_00]: The energy that he brings to the field is infectious and I mean, I've no doubts that with the plus hit tool and the 70 grade likes that he has out there both on the basis and in the outfield that he's just
[SPEAKER_00]: going to be a stud.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I can't wait to see what he does in the org.
[SPEAKER_00]: They've done a pretty solid job of developing high school talent.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, we'll see, but other than that, I mean, I love Chris Copie and going to the nationals probably outside of the top 10.
[SPEAKER_00]: DMV kid played really good baseball for the University of Maryland to then transfer to the Aggies at Texas A&M
[SPEAKER_00]: Now finds himself back in the DMV.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm really excited for that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Those are probably my two favorite fit picks other than anything else.
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I'll go with those, too.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know, the condo when I like I like the lot, too, because you know, I think what they say on the on the broadcast, I think this is a pretty well where it was a big talent big personality or something like that, where together, that fits and all the interviews you see, you know, with him, I mean, big personality in a good way to I don't think they be that.
[SPEAKER_01]: And anything negatively like he thought like a head case or anything that just I got it just you know he's he's that positively Infectious personality where he's just get it this loves baseball love is being out there on the field and and knows He kind of he has that confidence in that you love to see without being like super cocky like he knows that he's got you know a lot of talents and he can you know put that they could use
[SPEAKER_01]: in his career.
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, that was a pretty fun landing spot too.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you know, we'll see where the power winds up with him kind of same thing with PCA when he was younger and that was a little bit of the question, you know, with PCA, but he grew into, you know, obviously grew in the poor power as he got older, you know, but this, you know,
[SPEAKER_01]: high level of athleticism there with Condon, some double plus run times and good field of hits as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, a bunch of St. Louis doesn't want a good over the last few years and this org is definitely on the rise and kind of not so great org, a handful of years back but they've definitely kind of rebounded over the last three four or five years and you know, probably have maybe I don't rank the systems but maybe they're back in top 10 for some of this point in time.
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I think that's a pretty
[SPEAKER_01]: a fun landing spot there with con and going to St. Louis and just the other one I want to mention that you already mentioned as at my number 25 guy, but now I loved Logan Schmidt going to the Cleveland Guardians.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I got anytime a pitcher goes there, it's going to be fun, especially a six foot for prep lefty.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's already got a really strong framing, he's six four, like two 15 or so.
[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe not like a ton of projection, but you know, already has pretty good fastball kind of in that 93 95 range touches higher.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's got a good, you know, breaking ball, curve ball, change it as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: Got it already has a lot more polish the most, you know, prep arms that you'll see.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so that's a really good kind of a building, a good building walks to work off over then you use to get him in Cleveland and I just I already liked Schmitt and I like him even more now you know with the Guardian so it's always when two arms like that you know go with a Peterson and Logan Schmitt.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was a very different arms and you know thank three and a half or four years apart and age but
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, when they both get into that Cleveland or it's just to see if the Cleveland can make the best of them.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think they both have a really, really exciting upside for sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, that's those are some pretty fun landing spots here.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know,
[SPEAKER_01]: What do you, you know, a couple other names, you know, I wanted to kind of get into here.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's just we're talking about pitching, let's go with another pitcher here.
[SPEAKER_01]: Got that one right.
[SPEAKER_01]: You kind of right in the middle of the first round.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was like what picked 16 to the Texas Rangers or picked 15.
[SPEAKER_01]: One of those two, I forget.
[SPEAKER_01]: Geo Rojas.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's a guy with a lot of upside, really exciting, prep, lefty, and with a lot of production and dream on here.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, you like we Rojas?
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, there's a lot of fun,
[SPEAKER_00]: I love Gioro Ha, I mean, I kind of have the bias of being down in South Florida for, you know, the last five years before this, but I've heard so many people not only friends, but I've talked to parents of players from the, from the Stomendouglas team and former players as well.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, they just pump out collegiate and pro talent, like it's unreal to factory that they have there for a public high school down in Florida.
[SPEAKER_00]: GeoRohus is just the next guy up really solid offerings in both the fastball the slider I think he said triple digits on the fastball.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't necessarily want to be quoted on that But I'm pretty sure he has it a point in time hit a hundred if not up to the like 98.99
[SPEAKER_00]: But this is such a good landing spot here for him with the rangers.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that they love these high-up side picks They also got ProDepa Mila too So you know that they're gonna try their hardest to get the most out of these two guys and I was surprised you didn't go top 10.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know that a lot of people didn't expect him to leading up to the draft But I really thought a team like the brave is gonna pull the trigger on
[SPEAKER_00]: a really talented prep left-hander like they have in the past.
[SPEAKER_00]: So big geo-roll house guy, I think he's going to be a great player, just hope that he hits a ceiling with the Rangers.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, there were many more pitchers with more upside than G. R. Ross in the draft.
[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, they got to kind of work on the rest of his game.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, O. C. has, you know, the makings of a change ever, something like it's completely new offering to him.
[SPEAKER_01]: But since he was able to dominate, you know, with that mid-duper 90s, cheese, with the big slider that he has in the low to 180s,
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, he didn't really need a change up because most high school headers just couldn't touch the other two pitches.
[SPEAKER_01]: So he didn't really go to it that much because he didn't need to.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I think once he gets into the ranges of Oregon, the ranges of that's a pretty good thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it would pitch in development recently too.
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I like this lending spot as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because he could be right up there.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's one of the best arms from this draft class.
[SPEAKER_01]: If he's able to even get close to a ceiling.
[SPEAKER_01]: shoot up rankings here over the next couple of years.
[SPEAKER_01]: Two more guys, you know, in the back end of my top 25, but I think it could really be, you know, big risers as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: I had them, you know, back to back at 22 in 23 overall, you know, Bolorans going to the Dodgers at Pick 40 and Tyler Spangler going to the Philadelphia Phillies.
[SPEAKER_01]: So,
[SPEAKER_01]: What do you think of these guys?
[SPEAKER_01]: Are you high on either Lawrence or Spangler?
[SPEAKER_01]: What do you thoughts on these two?
[SPEAKER_00]: Spangler, I'll be a little bit more cautious about just because it's a...
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't necessarily love that pick.
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't hate it, but I wasn't really expecting that necessarily.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hard to not like, Lerons to the Dodgers.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, this is just the type of guy you think that they're going to excel with.
[SPEAKER_00]: I love the frame.
[SPEAKER_00]: We really get six foot, five, 200 pounds coming out of high school.
[SPEAKER_00]: Solid tools across the board too, maybe like to see a little bit more with the legs and maybe the glove there as well.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I think this is a great blueprint for the Dodgers to have.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is as wet as the clay gets for them to be able to mold.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm really excited to see how he pans out.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, with Lawrence, he's a guy that that picked me so much sense.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, all right, another exciting upside play
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, by and large, they usually get those right, I mean, every now and then they won't obviously nobody's perfect, but they get, you know, a lot more right than they get wrong, so to speak.
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, that one, especially it was a guy that I already had kind of ranked, I think I had him right around 30 that he went to the Dodgers and the guy, I got a bump you up.
[SPEAKER_01]: a little bit here, you know, big, big power, but, you know, far from an all-nothing, you know, master.
[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of times you say that these big, six, five high school massures, and you know, like all right, you know, there's a lot of swing and mess or just the context, skills aren't great in general.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's really not the case.
[SPEAKER_01]: And with RNC, I mean, this has got definitely a good hit for a solid average to get on base as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we'll see you down the road, you know, how that translates, but you know, he's
[SPEAKER_01]: in that organization, we'll see, but yeah, I loved that pick.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Spangler, I put top 25, just because what I got past, kind of like the Grinlinger Lawrence range.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was kind of not loving some of the collegiate bats there, and then as we'll drop off in terms of pitching for me,
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you know, I like, you know, Cole Carlin, you know, Clark Carson Bolamon, Teacon Coon's well enough, but, you know, I was kind of looking at some of these bats here and I ended up going with, you know, Spangler here at 23, you know, kind of weird spring for him.
[SPEAKER_01]: He missed some time due to injury.
[SPEAKER_01]: His high school team was actually suspended for the, I think it was the first five games, the
[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously isn't as well, but he's got that really nice 63, 195, 200 frames and projection.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's shown some good hitting abilities and some good power.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a decent enough runner, though.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think there'll be a huge part of his game, but there's a lot of the like here, but just not a super long track record.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, some injury concerns here.
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, he's a very, you know, I want to boomer blast, but I think you're going to see like a wide range of, you know, evaluations, the wide range of just rankings on Tyler Spangler, but I think he's definitely a fun one for sure, but now I love to, you know,
[SPEAKER_01]: He put up like MLB the show, the video game numbers, this past spring at the University of Georgia is hitting for power, stealing bags.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like truly ridiculous numbers in, uh, was it 67 games.
[SPEAKER_01]: He had 32 bombs, 26 deals.
[SPEAKER_01]: He drove in 87, scored 88.
[SPEAKER_01]: 379, 473, 803, slash line.
[SPEAKER_01]: This guy has a big power going to the Rockies was definitely fun as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: He went there with the 37th overall pick.
[SPEAKER_01]: Definitely some good speed in this profile as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: Kind of uncertain if you six behind the play or moves to the outfield.
[SPEAKER_01]: So kind of a lot of uncertainty here, but a lot of fun profile as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: So what do you thoughts here on Daniel Jackson?
[SPEAKER_00]: I kind of like the the pick.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know with people were kind of split with this one.
[SPEAKER_00]: Another Georgia guy going to the Colorado Rockies, like we saw Condon go a couple of years back, but powers definitely a plus tool for him.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I know that the stadium there in Athens is a bit of a boom box, but I mean, still you can't do that without at least having plus power there.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, I defensively, I kind of hope he doesn't stick.
[SPEAKER_00]: at catcher because when hunter go Jones hitting nearly 20 homers in his last 40 games, you think to yourself, man, I'd love to see what the Rockies could do with him long term.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I think this guy wasn't pretty quick through the system.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's kind of matched BCL pitching when he gets up the triple A.
[SPEAKER_00]: Other than that, it's going to be pretty interesting, not really a less than above average tool across the board for him, but really just intrigued
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, yeah, I'm right there with you.
[SPEAKER_01]: I kind of want him to not be a catcher either.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that'll be better for his value.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, another guy they took a few years ago, I think he drafted him what 2023, who was kind of like a catcher slash outfielder slash, I think even the short stop as well at the time, was Cole Carrig, you know, obviously he hasn't caught and I think since I think he caught his first year a little bit in the minors, but not since 2023,
[SPEAKER_01]: Now he's playing most of y'all feel with the, and he put a little of his shorts out this year as well and triple A, but yeah, this good athletes and they know this move around and that's what kind of what the Rockies do is what they kind of have to do, you know, they're not going to bring in, you know, for the most part not bringing any big name for each and so.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, most of what they got, they got to develop.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I like Jackson.
[SPEAKER_01]: I hadn't put 25 for a reason.
[SPEAKER_01]: And a little bit of a risk, sure, but I think there's a lot of upside here, especially if he does move to a corner out field where doesn't have that wear and tear of catching.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, weighing him down and, you know, the, you know, slightly less number of played appearances that kept most catchers get during the season and maybe he can use his legs a bit more, you know, it could be a really fun player.
[SPEAKER_01]: So he's definitely guy that I'm keeping an eye on is kind of see, especially, you know, initially, you know, assuming they get him, I don't know if he'll get in any minor league action this year or not, but whenever he does kind of wear the use again, they're the using him behind the player, they're moving him.
[SPEAKER_01]: kind of moving him around, putting him more on the outfield, and I think I'll be really intrigued in to see where he ends up on the field.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is a really fun profile.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, for we get out of here, Toby, any other names you want him to kind of sprinkle in here before we close out the show, any other names that you're high on, maybe that guy that you think's underrated that you think could be a big riser, you know, the rest of this year or in the next year, just any other names you want to bring him to the show before we close that out.
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like I have to mention Derek Kiriel before we leave.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I did not think he was going to go fifth overall, but I'm not disappointed to see the pick.
[SPEAKER_00]: Another high floor guy.
[SPEAKER_00]: Great bat to ball, prospect and, you know, with how good Pittsburgh's done as well as getting guys up to the majors, I would be.
[SPEAKER_00]: you know, really intrigued to see what he could bring to this future team that has hopefully guys like Connor Griffin as Merlin Valdez on it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe even guys like Tom Arcedonson or something, but I like the pick.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was honestly kind of surprised to see them not go with like Eric Booth or a high school player with the success they had in that department, but I didn't mind the pick at all.
[SPEAKER_00]: This was a guy that I thought was going to go in the top five after he won the National Championship with LSU, so I didn't hate it at all.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, I 100% thought they're going both.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you know, people that follow me, I do kind of quick, you know, pick by pick analysis recaps on the first, you know, I do like the first 40 or so picks, but I have most of them kind of type it ahead of time, that way I can just like copy them and paste them in just with the, you know, the pick template, you know, forage pick.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like putting boots in there, stepping on his name.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, this is, this is fit so well.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then, and the shifting, you know, to Derek Curia who, you know, I like, you know, definitely a solid player.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just really a surprising pick for Pittsburgh and general.
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, he's definitely a guy.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they got half him.
[SPEAKER_01]: Where do we have him right?
[SPEAKER_01]: 13.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, 13 overall.
[SPEAKER_01]: And if you're, you know, a contending team or you just want to go more so, you know, the safe, you know, route, you're curious if we got it, that could fit in the back, back end of a top 10 for sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the one name I wanted to sneak in here, I guess, he got a red sock here, got that, they went under slots, you know, early to get, you know, the sky and I think it was the ninth round, you know, outfielder, you know, Martin Schilar, you know, who they signed, I think for like double or even triple the slot value.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was actually the new.
[SPEAKER_01]: you know, signing bonus record for the ninth round.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, a guy that has a ton of upside, you know, he had some of the best, you know, power of any draft prospect this year.
[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, pretty good athlete as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's got it.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you know, don't forget the hit tool, you know, into a better spot, but there's no, like major concerns there, but, you know, the Red Sox, definitely a good aura because they've done a lot of good in terms of player development.
[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, they get, you know, fix the hit tool here, maybe not fix it's the right word.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it was like a major issue, but if they improve upon, you know, the hit tool and, you know,
[SPEAKER_01]: the power, the athleticism he has, like this is a really, really fun right handed power bat.
[SPEAKER_01]: So he couldn't have been one that those right handed power bets that this team needs down the road.
[SPEAKER_01]: So no, so long ways to go, he's a high school bat of the Atlanta Georgia area, Marist High School down there, but
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, a lot of upside with Martenshiel Ars.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I actually have him ranked himself at my top 40.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, call me a home around.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't care.
[SPEAKER_01]: I like the player.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think there's a lot of upside here.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he's got to really, really skyrocket up rankings over the next couple of years for sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, let's go to wrap us up.
[SPEAKER_01]: Nice little FYPD and draft recap here.
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, we'll do some more obviously talks to more FYPD later on the season, do a mock draft or so in the off season, as we always do with a couple of guests.
[SPEAKER_01]: So plenty of additional FYPD contents coming up here.
[SPEAKER_01]: We both written about the draft already.
[SPEAKER_01]: I got my rankings up, so that would check out.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now my Patreon and Toby's Substack both linked in our Twitter bios and we will see you again later this week, but until then everyone take care.