[SPEAKER_01]: West, I don't know if EH Taylor's lost their mind or not, but they are bringing in even more special release versions as the whiskey market is collapsing around them.
[SPEAKER_01]: Do we need more EH Taylor?
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, but if you want to hear about it and stick around.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a problem.
[SPEAKER_00]: It does.
[SPEAKER_00]: I like most facilities would love to have it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Problems they have is that most people buy all ready by all the releases that they have anyways.
[SPEAKER_00]: Everything gave release, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: All the blanters, all the stags, all the ishtailers.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you name anything in the Buffalo Trace family.
[SPEAKER_00]: And people are going to line up by it.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so how many more versions of EH Taylor
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, that's enough.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's enough.
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like we're there already, but.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, like, it's an interesting conversation.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, do you remember the funds from Happy Days?
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And how cool he was, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Very well.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then there was that one episode where he was surfing and they had him jump over the shark.
[SPEAKER_01]: I miss that one.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so have you ever heard the term it was a jumping of the shark moment?
[SPEAKER_01]: So historically the theory is that the the show was doing fine and everybody loved the concept of the care the the care into the funds.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but then they had him jump over a shark while he was surfing and everybody was like, okay, you went too far.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is just too much.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm out on this.
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't do this anymore.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I kind of felt like that's what happened
[SPEAKER_01]: level of trace just they they were like we have no bounds we can do anything we want create any kind of special release and then and then it was like none of them yeah you jump the shark on this one right you you went too far it makes sense yeah and so but but then the question is when they're doing these like extensions of EH Taylor and they're in their normal price range
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, is this a good idea or not, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: So in this, it's in their revisiting some of their one-time special releases.
[SPEAKER_01]: And what this, this may tell us some stuff about their inventory and their process, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it may tell us whether or not this is going to signal more legendary releases to come back things that were really super popular.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, this is all based on publicly available
[SPEAKER_01]: observations from us so, you know, don't don't take it too too seriously.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's not like Buffalo Tracensus Legal memos or anything like that.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, we're not that big deal.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: So let's talk about What we what we've got going on.
[SPEAKER_00]: So what are the normal bottles for each Taylor?
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, so we have the small batch of course, we've got a single barrel and the barrel proof of the standard every year always coming out.
[SPEAKER_01]: Always coming out, that's what we're used to, and they also have the rye, which, you know, it's not worth it, obviously, but mobile trace also generally releases a special release of age tailor each year, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: And those have become some of the most sought after ones, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Remember tornado survivor?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and what was the, um, some about marriage?
[SPEAKER_00]: Was marriage one or something?
[SPEAKER_01]: Amrath get grain of the gods, you know, stuff like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: So they usually do like a one-off.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then last year You two are did something crazy.
[SPEAKER_01]: They joined the V-Tax.
[SPEAKER_00]: Someone told me that and I didn't believe them.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, what?
[SPEAKER_00]: You're like, what?
[SPEAKER_00]: You don't even know what you're talking about.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so that he was right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Buffalo Trace anti-collection has been
[SPEAKER_01]: Arguably, the second most sought after collection in all of Berb and next to, you know, the Pappy Van Winkleign.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And for decades, it was just, you know, George C. Stag, William Louvreweller, each Taylor 17, as our AK team and Thomas A. Tandy, but then Buffalo Trace last year expanded the collection for the first time and forever and added the age Taylor.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, which I was not mad about.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I, I think age, you'd share their belongings up there.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'd see, we want a big dog's man.
[SPEAKER_00]: He'd put him in there.
[SPEAKER_00]: Put him in the B-Tack Hall of Fame.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_00]: And, uh, but, yeah, I seriously had a friend.
[SPEAKER_00]: I, uh, it wouldn't even a friend.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was a guy just a random guy.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was talking to me about whiskey.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he's like, oh, have you had the, uh, EH Taylor B-Tack?
[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like,
[SPEAKER_00]: What I think you're confused and he was not confused.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was not yeah, I was the confused one Yeah, I almost bought one, but I didn't get it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'll get one.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we should you should one day one day It'll come in you should that one but in addition to that You'd sailor a few years ago had a four grain, huh, and that was a very successful annual release
[SPEAKER_01]: And it was meant to be like a one-time expression, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: So tell the people what a four-grade is.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, typically in a bourbon, you're going to have a corn and then a flavor grain, which is usually right, and then you'll have a multibarly.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's not your basic bourbon recipe right there.
[SPEAKER_00]: A forgrane is when you add wheat into the mash bill, because it's either going to be a wheated bourbon or a rye or a standard straight bourbon.
[SPEAKER_00]: And when you have all four in there, you've got a magic little concoction there called the forgrane.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so when they release this, like people lost their minds, they really liked it, they thought it was very tasty.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so I don't think I've ever tried it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh really?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I've had it a number of times, and I enjoyed it quite a bit.
[SPEAKER_01]: But Buffalo Trace has decided to turn it into an annual release for each Taylor.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and so that was, you know, kind of the impetus for this video with it's like, holy crap, you know, they're using what was originally advertised as a one-time special release as a permanent brand-line extension, yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, it used to be, you know, the message was clear, but now it begs the question like,
[SPEAKER_01]: Are these really popular one-time special releases?
[SPEAKER_01]: Are they candidates for a permanent extension or to be brought back?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then the other one that was a surprise this year is that they're bringing back the cured oak.
[SPEAKER_00]: OK, and the other thing I've never tried.
[SPEAKER_01]: That would be unlikely for you to have tried, because it was their one-time special release.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think it was 2015.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was back in that era.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was probably.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it was looking for such bottles.
[SPEAKER_01]: I actually did buy a bottle.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right when I first started my whiskey hunt, I made friends with employee that worked in the bourbon aisle at a local liquor store and I went in there and he was like, hey, um, I've got a EH Taylor cured Oak if you want it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't even know what it was.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I was just like, I'm in, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Because he was offering me something special.
[SPEAKER_01]: Of course later I researched it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And basically, you drink it all in one weekend and you're like, crap.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, that's the interesting thing about that bottle is like, I did enjoy it, but I did treat it like it was special.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I kept it until I think 2018 was when I had the last like,
[SPEAKER_01]: four or five ounces in it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was I was going on my first pilgrimage to bourbon country.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I had planned out, I had poured a flask.
[SPEAKER_01]: for each distillery that we were going to go see.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then I brought all of the flasts with me on the bus because we did mid-drill up tours and they drive around.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you have to worry about what you're drinking while you're there.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm on the bus and we're on our way to Buffalo Trace and I'm like, everybody, I've got ye Taylor Curito, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: And at that point, people started figuring out, like, oh crap, that was a really special release from a few years ago.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the tour guide because they have the bus driver and then they got another guy that faces the group and like tells you about look over here And this is a horse farm and this is this and this is that and that guy wanted to drink some of that So bad and he came up to me.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's like man.
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to try
[SPEAKER_01]: So bad and I was like the only thing stopping you as you and he's like I'd get fired I'm not on the drink on these tours and I'm like I promise you I will not tell him It's safer than me and he would not try but that my my cured-out got killed on on that trip and everybody on the bus was very grateful for it Yeah, including a group of Nurses who were freaking wild women well now there's gonna be some opportunities for people to try some best stuff That's right, so it's true.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's coming back
[SPEAKER_01]: When welcome to today's episode of what you have on your e-commerce site, I'm your host Randy Sullivan.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is stupid.
[SPEAKER_01]: Why don't we even need a game show?
[SPEAKER_01]: So what I found interesting about this was, like, can we use this information to predict some other things that they might be doing in the future?
[SPEAKER_01]: And so the Kurok was supposed to be aged for around 10 years.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right and it takes the difference was they like a different kind of seasoning or something they do with the oh, yeah So the oak staves were seasoned not in account, but like seasoned outside for 13 months and so there are some there's some scientific evidence It suggests that air-dried staves
[SPEAKER_01]: will produce a different flavor in whiskey than kiln drives days and that that process may remove more of the bitter tannins through, you know, it'd be exposed to the season's outside and that therefore it might produce a slightly more approachable whiskey.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I'll leave that up to the experts that have better palettes to me.
[SPEAKER_01]: But if you do the math, the question is, do Buffalo trees know
[SPEAKER_01]: when they decided to start making the whiskey that they're going to release in 2026, how successful the 2025 release was.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think they did.
[SPEAKER_01]: And if you do the math and the 10 years and the time it takes to do the oak age saving and all that's the state aging, I think that they immediately decided let's do this again and it took until now for them to decide.
[SPEAKER_00]: Really good point because the timeline matches up.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what also I'm kind of convinced that distilleries do is they these big distilleries as they they have all of their special stuff and they're just sipping that stuff all the time, you know, right.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they're like, you know what, let's flip the public and on this, you know?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they're at home.
[SPEAKER_01]: They have a kind of experience.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, and they had the Buffalo Trace Experimental Collection, where they did tons of different experience.
[SPEAKER_01]: Experiments and some of those did make it into special releases.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, EH Taylor, the eighth is probably just chilling at home.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, she's sipping, he's been sipping this this whole time.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's just like, yeah, okay, we'll let them have some now.
[SPEAKER_00]: But that is, uh, I'm actually really excited about that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and so, you know, now I'm thinking about,
[SPEAKER_01]: you know, there are other special releases that they might be able to bring back and would they do it for a one time or could they make it a permanent brand line extension, you know, that type of thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's good timing for them from a economy standpoint because the bourbon buzz is as dwindled back down and it's just kind of there but it's not near what it was, you know, four, five, six years ago and it's like it's just another way to get a shot in the
[SPEAKER_00]: We know Buffalo Traced Increased Capacity, Increased Recouses and Barrels and all that stuff, and put a bunch of money into expansion.
[SPEAKER_00]: And this is just a way to kind of secure that investment.
[SPEAKER_00]: Be like, all right, yeah, if they were playing in this out all long 10 years ago, they're some pretty dang smart people.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and it was funny because I was using AI to do research for this.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, maybe they'll bring back tornado survived.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I thought that was, I was like, hey, I, do you think Buffalo Trace can summon a tornado?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, I was that your favorite, I did, did you bring the tornado?
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you bring the tornado?
[SPEAKER_01]: Is that why you're a fan of that?
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I mean, there are others that got the Grand The Gods, like you mentioned, uh, seasonwood.
[SPEAKER_00]: Where else X or something like was like, uh,
[SPEAKER_00]: was that like some sort of experiment?
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that was part of their experimental collection.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so, you know, they might be able to do something with some of the more successful experimental collection things, you know, all that stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I think that it's like you said, you know, should they be releasing another millennium for sure not?
[SPEAKER_01]: But it definitely helps to maintain attention on the brand as you're seeing a downturn in whiskey for them to have these special releases.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then, you know, the EHL is small back, just become easier to find on shelves.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so, you know, I think it says, I like this idea better than just coming out with new products and saying, thinking that, oh, we're a big brand, they're gonna love these new products.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: I like the idea of bringing back fan favorites for the past.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's the way to go then creating new products and just assuming that people are going to love them because your brand is your brand.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so do we need more, um, probably not, but bringing back our favorites.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not mad about it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I might be able to find a little bit more room on shelf.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, it kind of protects the scarcity and it may have some marketing benefits.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, overall, I think it's a good year.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Good idea.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, a few years ago, probably would have bet that, you know, foregrain was gone forever.
[SPEAKER_01]: Kirito was gone forever, but it would have been wrong.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We've got so many good whiskey's out there.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's lots of options, but when you talk about bringing me back some of that nostalgia, some of those old stuff, it's like, okay, I get it.
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