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[SPEAKER_00]: Christian parenting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A topic of conversation that comes up pretty regularly in my home with our three home school graduates who are all now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Young adults is why we made some of the choices as parents that we did for them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Things like why we didn't, we let them watch certain TV shows and certain cartoons.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why didn't we didn't watch certain movies or read particular books?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it all came back now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, we're not going to be perfect.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We weren't perfect.

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[SPEAKER_00]: looking back now that conversation goes really well, but we would use the verse Philippians 4-8, which says finally brothers, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is commendable, if there is any excellence, if there is anything where the appraise, think about these things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that was always our goal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I actually did an entire episode about that verse and how I use that in our homeschool and I can link that in the show notes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But another thing that we were really particular about was the music that our kids listened to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now listen, I grew up in the, in a Christian home, in a Christian community, and went to church, and

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[SPEAKER_00]: We had some music maybe to listen to, you know, there was the Carmen in the Sandy Patty, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then we got into Amy Grant and Michael W. Smith, but there are so many options right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And one big huge blessing that has been a part of my family is family life radio.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, this ministry is more than just a radio station.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That is kind of, I feel like it's the front of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what you get to see as you are flipping through the different stations.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I remember when we moved to New York,

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[SPEAKER_00]: and scanning the different stations to find Christian radio stations.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we get have Christian music to listen to, worship music as we ran around and we did all of our different activities and sports and grocery shopping and all those things in family life was such a blessing to hit that scan button and to find them and know that every word they said and every song that was sung.

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[SPEAKER_00]: were things that I didn't need to shield or protect or shelter my kids from.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was good stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Family life's mission is to impact lives with the message of hope found in Jesus Christ.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They accomplished that through 75 plus signals for their radio network that spans New York and Pennsylvania.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now I know some of you do not live in that area.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You couldn't hit the scan button on your radio and find it, guess what?

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you go to familylife.org, you can listen live.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My family has enjoyed and I enjoy too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When I run errands in the afternoon, I might pick up a talk show or a sermon and it just fills me up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Reminds me that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There isn't just darkness out there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There is light and family life is definitely a light.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They also have a counseling department.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They have a Christian events that highlight some great artists.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They bring people in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They will do dinners and have speakers and communions and musicians.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they have an entire performing arts department.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is one of the things that I love and appreciate about family life is that they do the things that they do with excellence.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what we should do as Christians, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: We can go back to that verse, Philippians 4-8.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I can turn on my local family life radio station.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And sometimes we travel.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I am able to continue.

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[SPEAKER_00]: you'll need to pick it up just on different numbers on the radio station as I hit scan as we are maybe traveling to go see family or friends and not only is family life a blessing and a great resource and something that you can just turn on in your home that you can turn on in your car and not have to worry about having a negative impact upon your kids it's going to have a positive impact upon your kids so not only that though family life is coming alongside little

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would love it if you would go ahead and check out familylife.org and if you have not gotten your ticket for the conference, go to littlebylittlehomeschool.com slash conference.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There is also a link on that webpage to get directly to family life.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can download their app.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can listen to the music.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, we want to present our kids with just good things like Flippian's 4-8 says.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And family life is a great resource for that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And now, let's get into today's topic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I've been thinking about this one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be a fun one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey there, and welcome to Little By Little Home School Podcast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My name is Lee Nguyen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So excited for you to be here for this episode.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We are going to talk about a couple critical conversation skills that you really need to teach your homes well or listen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes home schoolers can get pegged as being weird and odd, but I think sometimes it has to do with this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The fact that our kids can hold a conversation, they can make some eye contact, they can ask you questions, and it just feels weird to people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not weird.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's actually how kids should be, instead of them being all

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[SPEAKER_00]: awkward.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now I know there is a range of kids and personalities.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And some of your kids, you may not need to teach them any of these things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It just comes naturally to them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Gabbing is there, just a part of them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's their love language.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's their personality.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is just who they are.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But sometimes those gabbers need to be directed and they need some great skills, so they don't continue to gab that they actually have a conversation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's talk about this a little bit in the couple of things that I was really tried hard to be intentional about as I raised my kids during the years of their childhood and their tween years and then into the high school years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In this episode, I just have four quick kind of main points that I want to leave you with.

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[SPEAKER_00]: it is the end of July.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We don't have a ton of time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're probably prepping and thinking about the homeschool year, maybe some last vacations, or just some fun at the pool, and you just kind of want to get there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, the first tip that I have that I found really helpful with my kids was to prepare them ahead of time for how a conversation will go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is especially really helpful and pertinent when they are stepping into a brand new situation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe they are joining a sports team for the first time, or maybe it's just a new sport, or a new team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They don't know the coach.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe they are beginning some type of musical lessons, or they have been accepted and tried out before a play, and they're going to do some type of

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[SPEAKER_00]: just I mean lots of things and as they get older it's them stepping into maybe an interview at a job and then how to have conversations with customers after they're hired and they start their first shift and it can just run a lot of different ways but us preparing them ahead of time they think especially teens they think they know what they're getting into with some of these situations but you have probably the

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[SPEAKER_00]: been in these situations.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know a little bit better and trust me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When I tell you that sometimes they don't want to hear the wisdom that you want to impart upon them, I would make my kids listen anyway.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like you have a choice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to tell you this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And sometimes afterwards soon afterwards I would get a little bit of acknowledgement that yes mom was right and her wisdom was good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: sometimes it took a couple years, but it didn't matter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wasn't looking for any type of thank you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just wanted to prepare them for situations so that they could thrive and they could excel and not then shrink back from new experiences.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if you have any kids that lean and tend towards being a little bit quieter, this will really help them out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They know what they're going to be stepping into with that situation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I wanted to give you one real life example.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When my daughter, who is my oldest, she is now 23, when she was, I guess she would have been 18 at that time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it would have been her final year, 12th grade year, senior year of high school.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And she went back to our hometown where she has been a lot of her childhood.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And she went to spend the day now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wasn't going with her as her and my husband going.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And she was going to spend the day with a friend that she hadn't seen in quite a long time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was the same age as her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and I said to her, look, I mean, I was excited for her to spend the day with this friend.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But they're going to have some questions because you were a similar season of life as their daughter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're going to be asking, what college are you going to?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What are you going to study and major in?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're just very focused on that, on the school system, which is fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But we have chosen a path that's a little bit different.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they're going to ask questions such as, and I told her some of the questions and some of the things, not because they're being nosey or rude or anything, they just genuinely didn't know what she was up to and wanted to know what her plans were because that is a topic of conversation that you have with kids of that age.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And at that time, she was in the middle of her 12th grade year, and we had kind of mapped out some stuff and she had made some choices to,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Stay home during that summer and just work and then also into the fall So she was gonna graduate from home school and for the rest of the year She was going to stay home and work as many hours as she could and save up some money and It'd be able to pay off things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think she bought a car off of us at that time and just those things and just kind of like

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just breathe a little bit and just live.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then that following January she was going to her gap year program.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And she's very fully confident with this and excited about this decision of what she's going to be doing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's different.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't what would be expected by others.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I talked her through several of the questions that they would have and told her they probably be very curious.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They might be like, I'm like, huh.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They might not know what to ask.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's now talk about what you would say when they're asked his questions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How are you going to answer those questions?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I remember her kind of looking at me like, okay, well, whatever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think this is going to happen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because at that point, her friends mainly here were all homeschooled, and if they asked their friends or someone else asked, the answers could be anything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: there isn't like a one path that most kids are following in the homeschool community that we are in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you would just ask them like, oh okay, there would be no shock, there would be no questioning, no nothing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so when she came back, she said, mom, thank you so much.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is actually not a thank you, pretty quick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: for talking to me about that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was really helpful because I think I would have felt like my decision what I was doing wasn't right or it was weird.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I felt very confident and was able to answer their questions and they seemed really excited for me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So thank you for preparing me for that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that is an example of when they are older, preparing them for just conversations ahead of time that they are going to possibly encounter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Whereas you and I can jump into a new situation and we very easily recognize patterns.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This situation, okay, I'm getting into, is similar to this other one and this is how everybody acted and this is what we kind of talked about and this is how I need to be in that situation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's very easy for you to prepare yourself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't need someone else to talk you through it, but our kids do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They haven't encountered these.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The second thing is to help them have a few questions in mind that they can always pull out and they can ask if they don't know what else to say to somebody.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So this, I mean, this works great when they're a younger kid and instead of just kind of standing there kicking the dirt and whatever else, not little kids to each other, just kind of like, and looking around and they're like, hey, you want to play?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure, they go around often, they go ahead and play.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But

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[SPEAKER_00]: as they get older.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If they have a couple of questions that they feel confident asking that they can ask anybody.

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[SPEAKER_00]: These questions aren't ones that are specific to boys or girls or certain age range.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They are just questions out of curiosity asking somebody.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It could be something very generic like, how do you like to spend your free time or

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[SPEAKER_00]: Are you reading any books right now?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, some of these can fall, call, fall flat in your face.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Some people are like, how do you spend your free time?

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're like, oh, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you got to quick pull out of your pocket and other questions, such as, are you reading anything?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right now, like, what good books do you read?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't, you know, and so it's really hard when you have a kid.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to be very frank and honest and tell you, it's very hard when you have a kid that doesn't have a lot of technology and then they're interacting with somebody who does and they're whole,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Their whole extra free time and everything is is that watching social media and YouTube and that's all They're well, and they're just kind of like there's a disjoint and they won't become best friends and that's okay But just having a couple of questions that they can just always pull out and ask Allow them them to feel like they can have a little bit of control of the conversation and then it doesn't feel weird and awkward The third skill to teach them is to teach them the art of listening well

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[SPEAKER_00]: and then simply asking follow-up questions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is what I have said to my kids.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The conversational skills really when people walk a wet one my goal is I want people to walk away from a conversation with me not saying oh wow Lee's so awesome and cool, but to say you know, that was a really good conversation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I really enjoyed speaking to her and if they are a Christian then They would be like well, yeah, of course I had a great conversation with her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's a believer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We just kind of jumped into the deep end and all that stuff, but if they're not a Christian, hopefully they see there is just something different, a light in her and a caring and an understanding

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[SPEAKER_00]: But if you listen well, you can then come up with questions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this you might need to rehearse with your kids, instead of just pulling out those questions that they have in the back pocket.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is like, maybe they have run out of those questions, but just ask it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they could start off with just one of those questions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Asking,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you have any hobbies or how do you like to spend your free time or have you read any good books and listen to their answer and then follow up at this part of the conversational skills of listening well pull out one or two things and then just simply ask them a follow up question.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's also good to teach them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: to have patients and not interrupt them because sometimes she'd be like, okay, I got a great follow up question and then you just kind of blank out on the rest of what they're saying or you just interrupt right then their answer that might go on a little bit because you are like, oh, I've got a question.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I, I know a question I can ask them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's teaching them to be a little bit patient to listen well and honestly part of my goal kind of with a lot of conversations is to walk away and just be like, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That person, I allowed that person to speak more than I spoke.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this ability to listen well, it's, it's not as common as we would hope it would be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So teacher kids to listen well and then to simply just ask a follow up question.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let them answer that question.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ask another follow up question.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let them ask, give you that answer and ask another follow up question.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Often times those people then will say, wait a minute, I'm doing all the talking and they will then turn it on you and have a conversation and ask you a question and then you're able to go back and forth and have a really good conversation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The fourth critical skill I want you to teach your kids.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think is really important, is to teach them to be the one, to go up and initiate, to say hello, and to introduce themselves.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe it's the first day on the soccer team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe it's the first day in an art class, or maybe they have joined a choir, or some type of musical group, or just, it can be tons of things, a co-op anywhere.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Teach them to be the one to go up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Look for somebody that maybe is no one's talking to or that you are looking at.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're like, I think that could be a good friend.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Or doesn't even have to be like, you're not even looking for anything to come out of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just be like, you know, I'm just going to go up to a random person who maybe is standing by themselves.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Or there's a couple of people, but just being the one to go up and say hello.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How are you?

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[SPEAKER_00]: My name is so-and-so, reaching out to your hand, shaking their hand back and teaching your child and I have to remind myself this as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think we as adults need to keep reminding ourselves is who cares what someone may think of you by going up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Tell me one person, ever, unless they're like some crazy, rude, mean, terrible person, that if someone comes up to them and says, hi, how are you?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm so and so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then just ask them a question about something about they're doing or an interest or something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then genuinely listens.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That other person isn't going to walk away and say, oh, what a weirdo.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if they do who cares, that's not some, but that's not your problem.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's their problem.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But just the fact of going up, saying hello, it can feel really scary.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know even myself, my armpits kind of start sweating and I get a little hot and little flush and everything, but the more you do it, the easier that it feels.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And when you have young kids, you might need to push them and say, hey,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I see a kid over there, no one's talking to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why don't you go over and talk to them?

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're not looking for some long-term relationship or some BFF that we're making.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're just simply making an introduction, saying hello, thinking about the other person ahead of our own feelings.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that right there is really the foundation of great critical conversation skills.

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[SPEAKER_00]: is to realize that the conversation, make it about the other person and not ourselves and we will always walk away from a conversation saying that was a good conversation and hopefully the other person says that as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All of these skills are things that will grow with them as they get older and I really think that they're critical.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and really helpful as kids get older and they get out into the world and they will definitely stand out in a really good way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I would encourage you to include these as you kind of round out your summer break and as you step into the new home school year, right now the time you can kind of prepare for that and then as the home year school year starts and they start getting maybe into new clubs and new activities and

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[SPEAKER_00]: Encountering more people are starting maybe going.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe they're the age or just starting at youth group and they don't know the kids that are there So many different opportunities that you can help equip them for before we close out I do want to remind you about family life and just the wonderful witness that they are for Jesus Christ Within you are compensating yet and also world-wide because like I said You can just listen to them online down low the app go to family life.

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[SPEAKER_00]: O R G and be blessed

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[SPEAKER_00]: be able to play music and be able to listen to sermons and just different maybe talk show radio.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've come across so many things that have been so helpful for me and my family with family life and I would encourage you to tap into the resources that they offer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The link for them will be in the show notes and we just thank family life so much for sponsoring little by little homeschool conference.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I look forward to seeing you at the conference and I look forward to seeing you right back here on the podcast or really soon.

