WEBVTT 00:00.452 --> 00:03.938 [SPEAKER_01]: This podcast is a member of the Voices of Wrestling Podcasting Network. 00:04.259 --> 00:12.615 [SPEAKER_01]: Visit VoicesOfRecselling.com to hear the rest of our great podcast as well as show reviews, columns, opinions, and updates across the world of wrestling. 00:29.048 --> 00:34.676 [SPEAKER_00]: Hello everybody, welcome to the SuperJacass on Jolk, joined by David with almost in his Tuesday 14th of July, 2026. 00:35.257 --> 00:36.378 [SPEAKER_00]: This is episode 417. 00:36.438 --> 00:38.221 [SPEAKER_00]: David, how are you feeling? 00:38.261 --> 00:39.903 [SPEAKER_00]: Back from your big weekend in Chicago. 00:40.444 --> 00:41.705 [SPEAKER_02]: It was great. 00:41.765 --> 00:43.528 [SPEAKER_02]: Yep, let's go back. 00:43.588 --> 00:44.930 [SPEAKER_02]: We've got some sleep. 00:46.632 --> 00:53.319 [SPEAKER_02]: the flights were good, not a bump in the sky, and yeah, it was a pretty epic weekend for sure. 00:53.859 --> 00:55.521 [SPEAKER_02]: Right, no waves of that much fun. 00:55.541 --> 01:05.290 [SPEAKER_02]: I know I always, when I have these things and then I get back, I kind of like, oh, it's so decompressing that I just go into a tail spin, but so far so good. 01:06.932 --> 01:08.613 [SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, we have plenty. 01:09.354 --> 01:15.802 [SPEAKER_02]: of New Japan for a wrestling to talk about because as I don't know if you know, I think you feel the same way. 01:16.723 --> 01:19.026 [SPEAKER_02]: The vibes are high and we're so back, baby. 01:21.516 --> 01:37.124 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, this is like maybe the third we're so back moment of 26 and immediately it's it's not a clean up wood trajectory We're having some some peaks in some trust, but absolutely it feels like the vibes after that Chicago show, which Because I wasn't there alive, but just everyone. 01:37.464 --> 01:47.290 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know anyone who went to that show and came back saying Yeah, that was all right everyone is just like that was fucking incredible like the best new Japan show I've ever seen right this is people who've been to 01:48.471 --> 01:59.088 [SPEAKER_00]: serious Wrestle Kingdom events with with Memento stuff happening like some all-time stuff but came away from that Chicago show thinking that was the best thing that they never seen life which is sensational. 02:00.282 --> 02:11.713 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm in that camp and I said it right after the show and again if you're a Patreon member as you should be this is I can't imagine not sorry drop what David we have a patron. 02:11.893 --> 02:13.254 [SPEAKER_02]: This is we tell me more. 02:13.655 --> 02:17.498 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, let me tell you This is the time to get in because 02:18.199 --> 02:35.728 [SPEAKER_02]: It's G1 season so not only are you going to get daily audio for each and every G1 show as soon as possible right on after so the takes will be fresh you know I got away you got away the week you're going to get them right hot out of the oven. 02:37.148 --> 02:46.373 [SPEAKER_02]: The discord deli is going to be jumping I'm sure it already is and it has been for many many a month and many a year. 02:47.234 --> 02:48.118 [SPEAKER_02]: like this is the time. 02:48.601 --> 02:49.968 [SPEAKER_02]: It's a big, a big, a big, uh... 02:51.406 --> 02:59.028 [SPEAKER_02]: big news, big events, big everything, all the bonus audio, $10 a month. 02:59.448 --> 03:08.870 [SPEAKER_02]: That's again, I always like to say, I don't like to spend people's money, but my god of you listen to this, 10 bucks, well worth it, and I guarantee you'll renew. 03:08.930 --> 03:18.012 [SPEAKER_02]: So I get on it, patreon.com slash super JKs, find this, you know, just search for us, we're there, and get involved. 03:19.773 --> 03:21.357 [SPEAKER_02]: So much stuff like that. 03:21.417 --> 03:22.800 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't even know how to stuff probably. 03:22.820 --> 03:27.109 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, this week alone, subscribers would have got 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stream interact with us Send us funny comments or abuse or death threats whatever you like it's your choice you've page one you can say what you like to us you would have also got 04:18.544 --> 04:23.467 [SPEAKER_00]: my audio review of G1 Climbax, not at one, which, you know, let's not undersell this statement. 04:23.487 --> 04:24.748 [SPEAKER_00]: You're I'm going to the WhatsApp. 04:24.768 --> 04:30.551 [SPEAKER_00]: You're exact words for that was, let me try to find it here, bring it up, is it gone? 04:31.272 --> 04:37.796 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, um, um, I've lost something along the lines of, you're, you don't, no, no, no, no, we want exactly what it is. 04:38.016 --> 04:39.317 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't have my phone with me. 04:39.677 --> 04:42.759 [SPEAKER_00]: Dude, your review was so fucking outstanding. 04:42.879 --> 04:43.179 [SPEAKER_00]: That's it. 04:43.399 --> 04:45.642 [SPEAKER_00]: Now, not, not, not, let's, you're worth statement. 04:46.082 --> 04:58.737 [SPEAKER_00]: Now, two, one, you're obviously out in yourself is not having listened to the audio I did last year in the G1 Club, it's because what I did for the night one was at the same level, it's consistently outstanding. 04:58.918 --> 04:59.959 [SPEAKER_00]: Every night is outstanding. 05:00.259 --> 05:04.581 [SPEAKER_00]: Right, so you think G1, like one of Chicago is outstanding what a witch it is, right? 05:04.661 --> 05:08.363 [SPEAKER_00]: No one is doing this reaction audio at the level that I'm doing. 05:08.483 --> 05:10.184 [SPEAKER_00]: Possibly, Joshua and we were stiff. 05:10.204 --> 05:12.104 [SPEAKER_00]: His night one was really, really good. 05:12.465 --> 05:17.447 [SPEAKER_00]: So I say where the two of us are up there, but certainly there's no one else doing it on the level of us. 05:18.182 --> 05:21.944 [SPEAKER_00]: the insight, the analysis again, I'm not giving you move, move, move, we've recapped. 05:22.044 --> 05:26.766 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, he did it in Lariat and then he slammed him and it was nice and good and I liked it. 05:26.826 --> 05:28.687 [SPEAKER_00]: No, I'm contextualizing stuff. 05:28.707 --> 05:40.432 [SPEAKER_00]: The bigger picture stuff, I'm tracking the stories as they go through, I'm giving the kind of razor sharpener analysis that not many people can, very few people can, I'd say two people can, possibly three who talk about New Japan Pro Wrestling. 05:40.972 --> 05:43.495 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't really get that. 05:43.595 --> 05:44.135 [SPEAKER_00]: Every single show. 05:44.215 --> 05:47.139 [SPEAKER_00]: If not from me, then from Damon. 05:47.199 --> 05:48.900 [SPEAKER_00]: That is the best in the business. 05:49.141 --> 05:52.524 [SPEAKER_00]: So that alone itself is worth the price of entry. 05:53.305 --> 05:54.566 [SPEAKER_00]: So there's that. 05:55.067 --> 05:55.647 [SPEAKER_00]: And also, 05:56.268 --> 05:57.149 [SPEAKER_00]: 10 don't subscribe. 05:57.169 --> 06:05.877 [SPEAKER_00]: There's going to get your outstanding 20 minute long video of your trip to Chicago and watching that time, just absolutely warm my heart. 06:05.937 --> 06:12.122 [SPEAKER_00]: We're going to get into it later, but and talk about the events that made that, but honestly, I think that's a really special. 06:12.863 --> 06:32.246 [SPEAKER_00]: bit of content there that I think you and other people who attended are going to look back on a watch years and years from now because I think it's a really just an excellent encapsulation of what was just a magical weekend that brought a lot of people together from all walks of life and just was an unforgettable experience and the way you were able to capture that. 06:33.247 --> 06:54.920 [SPEAKER_00]: really catch the essence of all those different events, you know, the parties and the meetups and the show itself and just even the interstitual bits of the journey, you know, going through the airport and the delicious food that you ate, it was honestly damn it, it was better than most of the video log stuff that I watched these days, you know, I watched quite a lot of it on YouTube, you know, brought in Japan and 06:55.400 --> 07:04.246 [SPEAKER_00]: Mark weines and all these fucking idiots who walk around with a camera and document stuff that he did as stuff that they ate, but yours honestly it was better than that because it was authentic. 07:04.266 --> 07:10.710 [SPEAKER_00]: You weren't sort of mug into the camera and hype and stuff up to try and pass offers more than the some of its parts. 07:10.750 --> 07:15.914 [SPEAKER_00]: Like it was real and I felt obviously gutted that I couldn't be there, but I felt like I was there. 07:15.934 --> 07:21.117 [SPEAKER_00]: I felt like I had just a little taste of what it would have been like to be there on that weekend. 07:21.177 --> 07:22.118 [SPEAKER_00]: So again, 07:22.698 --> 07:24.961 [SPEAKER_00]: worth the price of entry alone that video. 07:25.201 --> 07:25.962 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not selling that. 07:25.982 --> 07:26.923 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not putting a price on that. 07:26.943 --> 07:27.984 [SPEAKER_00]: So people can buy it individually. 07:28.024 --> 07:29.025 [SPEAKER_00]: No, you get your fucking money out. 07:29.045 --> 07:32.329 [SPEAKER_00]: You sign up to the $10 tier and then you're going to get that. 07:32.349 --> 07:35.252 [SPEAKER_00]: You're going to get the nightly audio reviews and who knows what else. 07:35.332 --> 07:36.453 [SPEAKER_00]: Good shit is going to go up there. 07:36.473 --> 07:37.614 [SPEAKER_00]: So if you're not subscribed. 07:38.722 --> 07:39.042 [SPEAKER_00]: Stop. 07:39.363 --> 07:40.003 [SPEAKER_00]: Pause the podcast. 07:40.023 --> 07:41.244 [SPEAKER_00]: You're not allowed to listen to any more. 07:41.264 --> 07:42.225 [SPEAKER_00]: You've free loader. 07:42.825 --> 07:43.346 [SPEAKER_00]: Stop it now. 07:43.666 --> 07:48.489 [SPEAKER_00]: Go on Patrons.com for us at SuperJacast and do it as a favor to yourself. 07:48.910 --> 07:49.970 [SPEAKER_00]: Not just to last with. 07:50.070 --> 07:54.654 [SPEAKER_00]: Obviously we want your money, but if you like, can you do your plan for wrestling and you're listening to this. 07:55.134 --> 07:56.895 [SPEAKER_00]: Why would you not subscribe to the Patreon? 07:56.915 --> 07:57.556 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't understand. 07:57.596 --> 08:00.038 [SPEAKER_00]: Don't give me an always expensive customer living bullshit. 08:01.036 --> 08:02.218 [SPEAKER_00]: It's not that, this is cheap. 08:02.578 --> 08:03.880 [SPEAKER_00]: We're underselling it if anything. 08:05.002 --> 08:06.144 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna go double the price for it. 08:06.164 --> 08:07.686 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm changing a lot of 20-dollar tape down. 08:07.746 --> 08:08.147 [SPEAKER_00]: Stop me. 08:08.407 --> 08:11.392 [SPEAKER_00]: Try and stop me from doing this, because I've got my finger hover over it now. 08:11.432 --> 08:16.280 [SPEAKER_00]: Changing it's $20, because I think even that's underselling it, it's worth double that. 08:17.337 --> 08:17.557 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 08:18.237 --> 08:20.719 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, first of all, thank you very much for those kind of words. 08:21.099 --> 08:23.841 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, I did, that's, well, that was my goal. 08:23.961 --> 08:28.003 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I think, again, I can't record the actual wrestling. 08:28.723 --> 08:34.446 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, I mean, it could have, but, you know, I'm trying to play by the roles a little bit, but I just wanted to see you. 08:34.466 --> 08:36.247 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we can watch wrestling when you use your power well. 08:36.327 --> 08:36.528 [SPEAKER_02]: Right. 08:36.568 --> 08:38.809 [SPEAKER_00]: You, you can check everything that needed to be captured. 08:40.088 --> 08:48.473 [SPEAKER_02]: I hope so, I mean, there were some stuff that I had to put on the cutting room floor in the sense of there was one, the Culver's food review. 08:48.973 --> 09:00.180 [SPEAKER_02]: So I go and I talk about like what I thought of the Culver's and everything and kind of broke down what worked and maybe where ranks and all that kind of nonsense. 09:00.560 --> 09:02.942 [SPEAKER_02]: But there was food on the corner of my mouth. 09:03.842 --> 09:05.163 [SPEAKER_02]: And it was so gross. 09:05.583 --> 09:12.807 [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't want to go with it because it was just this long Oh, I don't know what it was. 09:12.847 --> 09:18.710 [SPEAKER_02]: I've got a sauce on the side of my mouth that I didn't know was there So I had to I couldn't put it in. 09:18.810 --> 09:20.752 [SPEAKER_02]: I couldn't put it in. 09:21.612 --> 09:28.296 [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, like I just kind of wanted to give people a little Just a little smidge a little taste of what that might 09:29.305 --> 09:34.029 [SPEAKER_02]: look like from my perspective, um, and that weekend. 09:34.409 --> 09:55.825 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think the one thing I one of the hammer home was, just the idea of people getting together and and sharing that common bond, um, and taking out the technology of it, like it was very dare I say minus me walking around with a fucking, uh, camera. 09:57.166 --> 10:03.271 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, very low tech and very, like, nobody's really pounded away on their phones. 10:04.392 --> 10:15.482 [SPEAKER_02]: Nobody's really interacting on, uh, like, everybody was in the moment and everyone was enjoying each other's company and laughing and having a good time and busting balls. 10:15.702 --> 10:22.648 [SPEAKER_02]: And like, I, I, that might have been the most enjoyable part over and above. 10:23.552 --> 10:33.582 [SPEAKER_02]: Like what I thought was, again, from a live New Japan perspective that I've attended, maybe my favorite show. 10:35.843 --> 10:38.004 [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm glad it worked. 10:38.744 --> 10:42.965 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what opportunities I'll have to do something like that again. 10:42.985 --> 10:45.486 [SPEAKER_02]: I hope to have lots more. 10:46.026 --> 10:53.949 [SPEAKER_02]: Could you imagine me, you going to every show that we possibly can and filming? 10:54.129 --> 10:56.310 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, okay, well, you need money to do that. 10:56.430 --> 11:02.092 [SPEAKER_00]: I want you to take that camera every time you go for me and I want to see Damon's paper pieces of everything on the Patreon. 11:02.172 --> 11:02.934 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, okay. 11:03.235 --> 11:04.238 [SPEAKER_02]: I won't live. 11:04.298 --> 11:05.041 [SPEAKER_02]: It's popular enough. 11:05.061 --> 11:07.288 [SPEAKER_02]: I can make that work, but do you know what I mean? 11:07.308 --> 11:09.173 [SPEAKER_02]: Like I feel like that is 11:10.740 --> 11:31.190 [SPEAKER_02]: Again, we're watching the wrestling, but let's show the idea of here's the common bond that intertwines all of us, all coming from different backgrounds, all coming from traveling and driving from so many different states and countries just for this show. 11:31.771 --> 11:35.913 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think that's one thing that gets lost. 11:36.620 --> 11:40.005 [SPEAKER_02]: Like the passion is still there for a ton of people. 11:40.846 --> 11:43.991 [SPEAKER_02]: The passion is still there to make people drive 11 hours. 11:46.109 --> 11:51.530 [SPEAKER_02]: 12 hours, 10 hours, whatever the case may fly, invest financially. 11:52.051 --> 12:12.835 [SPEAKER_02]: And for some reason, I don't know if New Japan itself capitalizes on that and uses that to their advantage, like people will travel for them if they deliver on a product that people want to travel for and people gambled and took a chance and I think it paid off. 12:16.096 --> 12:35.445 [SPEAKER_02]: weekend and the camaraderie that we all shared came across on those videos so I'm glad people are enjoying it $10 here if you want to see me be very awkward in front of the camera by all means it's worth $10 to me. 12:37.607 --> 12:39.927 [SPEAKER_00]: So of course, let's go back to Chicago at some point. 12:39.967 --> 12:42.768 [SPEAKER_00]: I just kind of like creeper in a little bit of woke up talk. 12:43.008 --> 12:43.608 [SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely. 12:44.008 --> 12:45.168 [SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely. 12:45.248 --> 12:46.749 [SPEAKER_02]: Listen, first of all, congratulations. 12:47.509 --> 12:51.429 [SPEAKER_02]: And second of all, you got to be a little nervous tomorrow. 12:51.469 --> 12:52.550 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 12:52.570 --> 12:56.050 [SPEAKER_02]: You got to be, you got to be a squeaky bum time. 12:56.430 --> 12:58.331 [SPEAKER_02]: If I'm not mistaken, this is what we call it. 12:58.811 --> 13:01.251 [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, go ahead, rock and roll. 13:01.271 --> 13:01.871 [SPEAKER_02]: The floor is yours. 13:03.831 --> 13:05.772 [SPEAKER_00]: So of course we're in a semi-final woke up, 13:07.400 --> 13:08.023 [SPEAKER_00]: Argentina. 13:08.043 --> 13:11.778 [SPEAKER_00]: This has got to be the biggest England match. 13:12.767 --> 13:20.912 [SPEAKER_00]: Certainly in my life, I mean, we were in the World Cup semi-final against Croatia in 2018, but the team wasn't actually that good then. 13:21.092 --> 13:28.958 [SPEAKER_00]: We felt like we'd sort of been riding our luck and reached the end of what that team was capable of. 13:29.558 --> 13:37.783 [SPEAKER_00]: But in terms of where we are now and what the potential of this team is and the rivalry with Argentina. 13:37.863 --> 13:38.023 [SPEAKER_00]: So, 13:39.062 --> 13:42.547 [SPEAKER_00]: course very famously quarterfinally 1986 we've got eliminated by. 13:43.821 --> 13:50.906 [SPEAKER_00]: Diego Marodona's hand of God and just unbelievable all time ago from him at the Aztec Stadium in Mexico. 13:51.947 --> 14:10.379 [SPEAKER_00]: Then 1998, we've got eliminated in around a 16 against Argentina with the famous incident where David Beckham just kicked his leg out and Diego sent me only men and absolutely me and I've gotten Beckham got sent off and we've played big chunk of that match with ten men lost on penalties and David Beckham absolutely vilified after that. 14:11.680 --> 14:21.363 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, up 2002, where we met again in the group stage and we beat them one no and David Beckham got his redemption, one no win for a penalty, so did the history there. 14:21.383 --> 14:27.305 [SPEAKER_00]: And of course, all the geopolitical history with the Folkland Islands or Malvina, depending on what you're calling out. 14:27.986 --> 14:33.948 [SPEAKER_00]: And I do suspect sort of that geopolitical aspect of it means a lot more 14:34.748 --> 14:37.509 [SPEAKER_00]: to Argentina fans and it does England fat. 14:37.529 --> 14:39.991 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think England fat, you know, I could be off base it. 14:40.011 --> 14:44.293 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think England fans are really thinking about the focal line and it's all care about that. 14:44.773 --> 14:49.315 [SPEAKER_00]: I think to us, it's just a massive football match and a great footballing rivalry. 14:49.355 --> 15:00.481 [SPEAKER_00]: So they're so much going into this and it's an Argentina team that I feel have been writing their luck at times and Messi's been carrying that at times and they've got either really good players as well, like you didn't know 15:03.102 --> 15:23.994 [SPEAKER_00]: There's, you know, a lot of whispers that this is a team that I've been not only carried by Messi, but by some dodgy FIFA referee in decisions and you can, you can tell you see in the footage of a FIFA president, Janie and Fantino, when goals have been scored against Argentina, like when when Egypt scored their second goal against Argentina and he's like, got his head in his hands like, oh fuck, you know, this is my golden goose. 15:24.034 --> 15:28.257 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, he really, really wants Leonardo Messi in that tournament as long as he can. 15:28.397 --> 15:29.798 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, Messi is his little, 15:31.699 --> 15:32.020 [SPEAKER_02]: That's good. 15:32.040 --> 15:35.463 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to say a very insulting term there, but yeah, there's got golden groups. 15:35.483 --> 15:36.144 [SPEAKER_00]: So stick with that. 15:36.184 --> 15:38.206 [SPEAKER_00]: That's a bit more of a diplomatic term. 15:38.226 --> 15:44.733 [SPEAKER_00]: So there's a lot of fears amongst England fans that the referees are going to be out to get them and there's going to be some shenanigans. 15:44.793 --> 15:51.439 [SPEAKER_00]: Now that said, I think they had the opportunity to do that against when we were playing Norway because we had a host of players that were 15:52.120 --> 15:54.402 [SPEAKER_00]: already on the verge of suspension. 15:54.462 --> 15:59.085 [SPEAKER_00]: And I had they receive yellow cards against Norway, they would have been suspended against Argentina. 15:59.145 --> 16:00.485 [SPEAKER_00]: Now, none of those players got booked. 16:00.626 --> 16:10.592 [SPEAKER_00]: So I don't, you could either talk that down to being an extremely disciplined performance by England to not let that happen or maybe sort of throw a bit of water onto the conspiracy fires. 16:10.652 --> 16:12.934 [SPEAKER_00]: But wherever way you slice it, this isn't 16:13.794 --> 16:18.918 [SPEAKER_00]: unbelievably big game for both countries and it's really finally poised. 16:19.078 --> 16:34.689 [SPEAKER_00]: I kind of feel England probably favourites in terms of actual, you know, man for man, the England 11 against the Argentine or 11, but just the the stature of the game and the the prestige of it and what's at stake is is enormous to me. 16:34.749 --> 16:37.992 [SPEAKER_00]: Like again, from trying to contextualise, it probably the biggest since 16:38.572 --> 17:01.327 [SPEAKER_00]: We played West Germany in 1990 again, it was three years old at the time, so I have no memory of it, but again there, the rivalry is there and the status there of again playing in a World Cup semifinal, and we've been into European Championship finals, but I'm sorry, Portugal fans, European Championship is not on the level of a World Cup, so we're on the precipice of something really big here now, how not hard, how not hard, how not hard, how not hard, how not hard, how not hard, how not hard, how not hard, how not hard, how not hard, how not hard, how not hard, how not hard, how not hard, how not hard, how not hard, how not hard, how not hard, how not hard, how not hard, how not hard, how not hard, how not hard, how not hard, how not hard, how not hard, how not hard, how not hard, how not hard, how not hard, how not hard, how not hard, how not hard, 17:02.142 --> 17:03.423 [SPEAKER_00]: I could see us being Argentina. 17:03.663 --> 17:05.324 [SPEAKER_00]: I think we could be Argentina. 17:05.344 --> 17:06.825 [SPEAKER_00]: They were saying we should be Argentina. 17:06.845 --> 17:10.688 [SPEAKER_00]: I think if we play to our best, then we are better than them, right? 17:10.768 --> 17:12.029 [SPEAKER_00]: I think we can be them. 17:12.049 --> 17:18.314 [SPEAKER_00]: But when it comes down to this stage of a World Cup, it's not always necessarily the best team that wins. 17:18.654 --> 17:21.496 [SPEAKER_00]: We've played really poorly against teams of one. 17:21.556 --> 17:24.498 [SPEAKER_00]: And we've also played really well against teams. 17:24.598 --> 17:26.620 [SPEAKER_00]: And lost, like we've played France in the... 17:27.380 --> 17:33.424 [SPEAKER_00]: The quarterfinals in 2022, I think we were outstanding in that match, but we still ended up losing. 17:33.444 --> 17:38.327 [SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, you need a bit of luck on the day as well as performing well. 17:38.848 --> 17:42.390 [SPEAKER_00]: So, that one, it almost feels like a coin toss, but I think... 17:42.950 --> 17:51.334 [SPEAKER_00]: I hate to use the cliche, you know, pressure is a privilege, but it is, I mean, what a treat to be able to have that England Argentine of World Cup semi-final to look forward to tomorrow. 17:51.354 --> 18:01.739 [SPEAKER_00]: Just to be in that conversation, to be in the room because, you know, in my lifetime England have gone through some absolute slumps where like Euro 2008, we didn't even qualify for that. 18:02.339 --> 18:09.245 [SPEAKER_00]: Euro 2016 getting eliminated by Iceland's World Cup 2014 didn't even make it out of the group stage. 18:09.285 --> 18:11.987 [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm not taking this regard to that at all. 18:12.007 --> 18:17.211 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just delighted that with there just being in the semi-final itself is fantastic. 18:17.251 --> 18:18.432 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm really excited for the game. 18:18.813 --> 18:23.236 [SPEAKER_00]: I'll be watching it at the Bobby Tracy Football Club with my friend Andrew and I'll take 18:28.200 --> 18:32.601 [SPEAKER_00]: great memories to be made and it looks at the time as we recall this statement. 18:32.701 --> 18:35.522 [SPEAKER_00]: And so it's Spain, too, France, Neil. 18:35.542 --> 18:42.463 [SPEAKER_00]: So it does look wow, almost certain that barren are a big comeback from France who kind of lost their heads a bit here. 18:43.184 --> 18:44.564 [SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be Spain in the final. 18:44.964 --> 18:52.126 [SPEAKER_00]: And England played against Spain in the final of Euro 2024, two years ago and they narrowly beat us to one. 18:52.166 --> 18:52.286 [SPEAKER_00]: So 18:53.672 --> 19:03.658 [SPEAKER_00]: If we do be Argentina, which obviously we're not taking as a given, we are looking at the possibility of another international final rematch with Spain. 19:03.719 --> 19:10.363 [SPEAKER_00]: A Spain have looked really good here, like Danny Ormo in particular has been outstanding with the link-up play, some of the passing of the moving has been 19:11.063 --> 19:16.289 [SPEAKER_00]: It leads, but yeah, just the chance to have another crack at Spain, maybe get revenge from two years ago. 19:16.309 --> 19:22.655 [SPEAKER_00]: So, it's an exciting time day, but I thought I was all done with my football and exciting enthusiasm. 19:22.715 --> 19:28.641 [SPEAKER_00]: After I asked the win in the league and then losing the Champions League final, I'm not sure I could take losing another final. 19:28.961 --> 19:34.047 [SPEAKER_00]: If I go through this face of a couple of months with the last all losing the Champions League final in England, losing the World Cup final, that. 19:34.507 --> 19:40.232 [SPEAKER_00]: That would seem cruel, like I think I do most rather we just lost this every fight, let that point rather than have to go through that. 19:40.272 --> 19:48.159 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, imagine if we lost on penalties, my brain would be on Mars Day, but you'd find me floating down the river dark. 19:48.280 --> 19:51.302 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure I could, I want that to happen. 19:51.402 --> 19:54.225 [SPEAKER_00]: But hey, this is what football is all about, isn't it? 19:54.926 --> 19:55.246 [SPEAKER_02]: It is. 19:55.506 --> 19:57.288 [SPEAKER_02]: It ends for sports is all about. 19:57.868 --> 20:00.110 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, to be in the position that you are in is 20:01.111 --> 20:09.721 [SPEAKER_02]: to like you said, it's fun, exciting, but also nerve wracking and takes you feels like years of your life. 20:10.282 --> 20:11.043 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, what a summer. 20:11.524 --> 20:12.305 [SPEAKER_02]: What a summer for you. 20:13.614 --> 20:15.936 [SPEAKER_02]: It's been quite a ride. 20:16.036 --> 20:23.821 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, the last time England's won a World Cup, I mean, there was probably like seven countries in the entire earth, right? 20:24.982 --> 20:29.245 [SPEAKER_02]: So, yeah, I mean, that's, look, you're in the dance. 20:29.365 --> 20:34.148 [SPEAKER_02]: I would think that you would want to see Spain as opposed to France, I'm assuming. 20:36.229 --> 20:39.151 [SPEAKER_02]: Again, this is, we're talking about an Argentinian team 20:40.292 --> 20:40.952 [SPEAKER_02]: Let's be honest here. 20:40.972 --> 20:45.733 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, they haven't played well, and you're hoping that they continue to not play as well. 20:46.173 --> 20:58.075 [SPEAKER_02]: And maybe it's a team that has, you know, maybe aged, maybe has gotten to the point where it's, you know, just not a cohesive unit enough to beat a team that is cohesive. 20:59.075 --> 21:02.016 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's a good spot to be in. 21:02.056 --> 21:07.777 [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, I was, I was a, I kept checking on updates while I was there 21:11.113 --> 21:12.434 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's a good finish for you. 21:12.454 --> 21:13.735 [SPEAKER_02]: I was happy for you. 21:13.755 --> 21:14.997 [SPEAKER_02]: It was happy for everybody over there. 21:16.038 --> 21:17.259 [SPEAKER_02]: All the peeps I know over there. 21:17.319 --> 21:20.502 [SPEAKER_02]: So look, we'll be rooting for you tomorrow. 21:20.622 --> 21:21.242 [SPEAKER_02]: That's for sure. 21:23.204 --> 21:25.787 [SPEAKER_02]: And then it's even more squeaky bum time. 21:26.247 --> 21:32.173 [SPEAKER_02]: So, and then the finals correctly, if I'm wrong, is in New York, right? 21:32.233 --> 21:34.555 [SPEAKER_02]: Or Jersey, it's in MetLife, right? 21:36.550 --> 21:44.697 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I believe so here, Sunday, we ate a clock out time, depending on how they say, maybe they might be a bit more patron bonus audio. 21:44.917 --> 21:45.778 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I forgot as well. 21:46.058 --> 21:52.023 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm scheduled to do a G1 draft slash G1 preview with Josh from WeWorks Diff as well. 21:52.043 --> 21:53.905 [SPEAKER_00]: So I know that that's going to have been situated the patron. 21:53.945 --> 21:59.910 [SPEAKER_00]: So again, no reason not to be on board with that because even now, I've just thrown two more 22:03.479 --> 22:07.021 [SPEAKER_00]: definite bits of audio coming your way, but yeah, exciting times. 22:07.821 --> 22:08.381 [SPEAKER_00]: Yep, Tina. 22:08.501 --> 22:08.802 [SPEAKER_02]: Love it. 22:09.182 --> 22:09.462 [SPEAKER_02]: Love it. 22:09.522 --> 22:09.782 [SPEAKER_02]: Love it. 22:10.242 --> 22:10.522 [SPEAKER_02]: Love it. 22:10.783 --> 22:11.503 [SPEAKER_02]: Good luck to you. 22:12.103 --> 22:21.588 [SPEAKER_02]: And again, speaking of self-lined up in a pipeline, we have a plethora of unmist potential interviews, so we'll have more of those coming and people enjoy that. 22:21.608 --> 22:25.790 [SPEAKER_00]: Because they all choose B. Joe Lanzer please, because he made a tremendous amount of money for us. 22:27.011 --> 22:35.166 [SPEAKER_02]: He's really I'm not gonna lie for the people that I'd I told everybody that went Everybody that went to that meetup at the the hideaway brewery 22:37.043 --> 22:41.324 [SPEAKER_02]: I was like, the Patreon money paid for this, and a lot of that was Joe. 22:42.664 --> 22:49.066 [SPEAKER_02]: So maybe, yeah, maybe we haven't went around too, every nice, but yes, excellent job by everybody there. 22:49.126 --> 22:57.647 [SPEAKER_02]: So Patreon, sign up $10, it's time for you, it's time for you to do it, dust it off, I know you've been thinking about it. 22:58.608 --> 23:00.048 [SPEAKER_02]: And here's the thing, too. 23:03.051 --> 23:18.500 [SPEAKER_02]: I want to reinvest in the show and do different things and do different fun things and have different guests and go to different events that maybe I wasn't able to before, you know, maybe the Patreon could be a nice vehicle for that. 23:18.560 --> 23:25.744 [SPEAKER_02]: So know that your money is not just going to a beer fund for me, it's for everybody. 23:25.864 --> 23:28.085 [SPEAKER_02]: So everyone will benefit hopefully. 23:29.646 --> 23:30.247 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, all right. 23:30.327 --> 23:31.208 [SPEAKER_02]: There we go. 23:31.788 --> 23:34.470 [SPEAKER_02]: We busy shall take us where you want to go first, Joe. 23:35.310 --> 23:37.312 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, just one thing before we get into this G1 show. 23:38.233 --> 23:47.199 [SPEAKER_00]: There was some news doing the round about some comments made by Kiddani about the Ota Suji, right, and I asked someone to explain it to me, because it didn't really understand it. 23:47.559 --> 23:50.321 [SPEAKER_00]: So apparently, there's people from the discord of explain it to me. 23:50.701 --> 23:53.183 [SPEAKER_00]: Kiddani, it might be completely off of it. 23:53.383 --> 23:55.125 [SPEAKER_00]: Kiddani didn't interview with Playboy, 23:57.286 --> 23:58.267 [SPEAKER_00]: on new beginning. 23:58.287 --> 24:02.850 [SPEAKER_00]: So remember, around new beginning time, Yota Suji was making the comment the current company. 24:03.350 --> 24:04.331 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, yes. 24:04.391 --> 24:07.013 [SPEAKER_00]: He was saying like, we are human beings. 24:07.053 --> 24:09.515 [SPEAKER_00]: We're putting our body and our lives on the line every day. 24:09.935 --> 24:12.276 [SPEAKER_00]: We're not fucking cards, right? 24:12.657 --> 24:13.758 [SPEAKER_00]: You treat us with respect. 24:13.778 --> 24:15.419 [SPEAKER_00]: We're getting underappreciate. 24:15.439 --> 24:18.841 [SPEAKER_00]: We're undervalued by this company and you need to do something about it. 24:18.861 --> 24:19.401 [SPEAKER_00]: So apparently, 24:20.442 --> 24:43.488 [SPEAKER_00]: Those comments from Suji really upset Kadani and made him sell the company Sure earlier than he planned he said so he said so similarly that he couldn't sleep that night because he was so upset by what Suji said I he said it He could only said it wasn't fair that he put so much effort into wrestling and the rest has didn't like him So can we get a fruit basket for you to Suji because this that's fucking beast 24:45.070 --> 24:47.132 [SPEAKER_02]: Seriously, if that's all I'll talk for that. 24:47.252 --> 24:56.578 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure there are at least 10 to 20 wrestlers that would have signed up in Done a personal personalized video themselves. 24:57.679 --> 24:59.901 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I found that to be highly 25:02.202 --> 25:16.573 [SPEAKER_02]: dare I say, bullshit, I mean, a pro wrestler who has been in the driver's seat of this company a very short amount of time. 25:16.693 --> 25:26.500 [SPEAKER_02]: This is not like this was Tana Hashi, this was not like this was Okata and even then I don't really think it would have mattered. 25:29.968 --> 25:34.492 [SPEAKER_02]: made him one, had to say, he had to sell, come on, really? 25:34.892 --> 25:35.853 [SPEAKER_02]: That's odd talk, David. 25:35.873 --> 25:39.055 [SPEAKER_00]: A lot of people are calling you to sue you the CM Punk of the Rayway era. 25:39.656 --> 25:42.258 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, sure, it's wow. 25:42.318 --> 25:46.781 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, in a good way, not in a sort of hypocrite, sell out, okay, it's made you way. 25:47.542 --> 25:50.944 [SPEAKER_02]: All right, well, I just find, I found those, 25:52.205 --> 26:11.840 [SPEAKER_02]: and people kind of explaining it some where Japanese that we're tweeting and some that we're English kind of translate it like it it really felt like really it's that that was that you're going to put you're going to put the onus on him for that comment 26:12.660 --> 26:16.806 [SPEAKER_02]: and I've seen the little, I've seen more far-fetched than me, be honest with me. 26:17.266 --> 26:19.629 [SPEAKER_00]: We're building a serious goat case for you to see you here. 26:19.669 --> 26:27.199 [SPEAKER_00]: So going up to, because you've got a car as face, getting in as face and telling him he's a disappointment for the way you left the company. 26:27.500 --> 26:29.783 [SPEAKER_00]: We're no one else out the custody during the, uh, 26:30.263 --> 26:41.350 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, when he was doing this makes Wankin' each other off with a chaos nonsense, getting Will Osprey, so upset that he's arguing with Rando's on Twitter on his honeymoon. 26:41.370 --> 26:44.932 [SPEAKER_00]: The night after his wedding, he can't get off his phone, because Suji's upset him so much. 26:45.312 --> 26:52.577 [SPEAKER_00]: And now, a rage-baked idea to actually selling the entire company, which is what people have been on their knees begging for for years. 26:52.637 --> 26:54.598 [SPEAKER_00]: So, alright, what else does this man need? 26:54.638 --> 26:56.539 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to hear any more anything more about. 26:56.819 --> 26:59.661 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, he's wrestling, or he did too many moves here, right? 26:59.741 --> 27:02.783 [SPEAKER_00]: No, this guy is going to be saving the company. 27:03.323 --> 27:04.064 [SPEAKER_02]: He's a savior. 27:04.584 --> 27:09.707 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, in five years, we'll look back at this time and say, wow, what a legend. 27:09.987 --> 27:11.468 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm doing it now quite honestly. 27:12.689 --> 27:15.291 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like, here's the thing. 27:15.991 --> 27:21.775 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, again, you take everything that a pro wrestler says with a liberal pinch of salt. 27:23.027 --> 27:29.291 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, it is somewhat refreshing that he is kind of saying this thing. 27:29.771 --> 27:31.792 [SPEAKER_02]: Do I belive he's telling him to say this? 27:31.832 --> 27:33.973 [SPEAKER_02]: He's not, he's not, I mean, scripts written for him. 27:34.013 --> 27:36.835 [SPEAKER_02]: He's just saying the quiet parts out loud and I love it. 27:36.915 --> 27:37.295 [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly. 27:37.616 --> 27:37.816 [SPEAKER_02]: Yep. 27:37.856 --> 27:38.276 [SPEAKER_02]: Me too. 27:38.596 --> 27:38.976 [SPEAKER_02]: Me too. 27:39.016 --> 27:45.860 [SPEAKER_02]: Now does that mean that, oh, he has any power say or whatever to say. 27:46.360 --> 27:48.822 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not wrestling on this particular show. 27:51.390 --> 27:53.331 [SPEAKER_02]: If you believe that, I got a bridge in fuckin' Brooklyn. 27:53.351 --> 27:54.092 [SPEAKER_02]: I love this all yet. 27:58.355 --> 28:05.039 [SPEAKER_02]: Again, he take everything with a pinch of salt and understand, again, not everything has to be a work. 28:05.600 --> 28:06.881 [SPEAKER_02]: Another thing has to be a shoot. 28:07.984 --> 28:09.145 [SPEAKER_02]: He's speaking his mind. 28:09.305 --> 28:10.406 [SPEAKER_02]: He's speaking his feelings. 28:10.446 --> 28:12.688 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure he feels these things. 28:13.328 --> 28:18.972 [SPEAKER_02]: But whether that manifests into reality is a completely different thing. 28:19.353 --> 28:25.457 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think this cadonian review is just like preposterous to be quite honest with you. 28:25.537 --> 28:29.040 [SPEAKER_02]: That that that he had any factor with. 28:29.100 --> 28:30.181 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, stop it. 28:30.401 --> 28:31.282 [SPEAKER_02]: He kept them up at night. 28:31.342 --> 28:33.423 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, okay, taking an ambient and go to fuck the bed. 28:33.964 --> 28:34.164 [SPEAKER_02]: Please. 28:36.728 --> 28:40.011 [SPEAKER_00]: All right, well, that was all of the non-G1-related news. 28:40.031 --> 28:41.092 [SPEAKER_00]: Just get straight into it. 28:41.112 --> 28:53.565 [SPEAKER_00]: Then you had a lovely time as we've touched on, talk us through the events that led up to you actually arriving at the arena and all the lovely experiences you had and people you met. 28:53.865 --> 28:56.048 [SPEAKER_00]: Because I think that's a very important part of this journey. 28:56.694 --> 29:11.137 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so again, it was a quick hit, quick weekend, flew in, Friday, and we had the meet up, and again, John Carroll. 29:12.017 --> 29:30.272 [SPEAKER_02]: great great person brought along so many who every time I looked at them I was like this is my brother it looks like my brother we exchange brother stories and suit Williams what a what a guy and yeah can I just jump in and speak in defense I see because 29:30.953 --> 29:38.896 [SPEAKER_00]: For some reason, a lot of people on the SuperJacos Discord have got a massive headphone for this guy because of his rest of the opinions, because of his wrestling opinions, right? 29:39.296 --> 29:47.339 [SPEAKER_00]: And whatever, like you can disagree with someone's wrestling opinions, but he is such a nice guy, like he genuinely real life nice dude. 29:47.399 --> 29:50.840 [SPEAKER_00]: So I've got a stick up from here because I like suit Williams. 29:50.880 --> 29:52.121 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't care who knows about it. 29:52.681 --> 29:53.001 [SPEAKER_00]: Me too. 29:53.502 --> 30:16.578 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, uh, look, and, and what I found most impressive was not only the way that he carries himself, but um, he's, he's in his 20s, you know, like that, that was impressive to me, humble yet, um, confident and like I was, I was just really kind of blown away by, by suit. 30:16.978 --> 30:18.900 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, boy, who else? 30:19.720 --> 30:20.921 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, who else can we put over? 30:24.800 --> 30:27.962 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, the person who said that my, um, my destiny to Robo. 30:28.243 --> 30:28.983 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, my God. 30:29.043 --> 30:29.504 [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you. 30:29.524 --> 30:29.804 [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you. 30:29.824 --> 30:30.084 [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you. 30:30.104 --> 30:30.305 [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you. 30:30.325 --> 30:30.965 [SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes I feel great. 30:31.005 --> 30:36.170 [SPEAKER_02]: His love of friendship will be this and, and I'm terrible at names and I'm my apologies. 30:37.421 --> 31:01.897 [SPEAKER_02]: Guy and his friend came up drove up from Alabama 11 hours drove up came to this meetup and he pulls me aside in these like Damon I I need to tell you that you've the show has helped me enjoy this product so much more and he specifically mentioned you and your 31:03.354 --> 31:29.456 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not going to say rant, it was just a beautiful piece of audio talking about despy and aroma and the match and the the the the mask and being torn off and yet he didn't need him and like he's going on and describe the only things that I was like wow I mean it really stuck with them so much and he's like that was like one of the most the thing that 31:31.723 --> 31:37.444 [SPEAKER_02]: the most in his time watching New Japan and I was like that is that is really incredible. 31:39.305 --> 31:52.527 [SPEAKER_02]: The fact that we once again, it was not, it's the fact to redirect RV. 31:52.627 --> 31:58.869 [SPEAKER_02]: I got some blown way and what's weird was that, it was that Chris Samson, Chris Samson had a 32:01.489 --> 32:23.515 [SPEAKER_02]: before G1 on Saturday and he was there and, you know, I didn't know him, but, you know, we were just kind of in the same yard back your heart and, you know, it's kind of hanging out and he goes down and my name's, but you might know me as a psyched direct guy and I was like, 32:25.315 --> 32:43.566 [SPEAKER_02]: I couldn't believe it, that was an amazing, amazing time, and again for new listeners, if you go back into the archives, he asks questions, as we usually take on the show and do our best to answer, and he asks a couple questions and it turned into a bit. 32:43.586 --> 32:46.168 [SPEAKER_02]: We gave him just ridiculous 32:51.631 --> 32:54.392 [SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't work there anymore, he let me know. 32:54.432 --> 33:00.655 [SPEAKER_02]: And he says, you know, my time there wasn't the most fun. 33:01.475 --> 33:03.476 [SPEAKER_02]: But that made it enjoyable. 33:03.516 --> 33:15.041 [SPEAKER_02]: Listening to the show and having those shout-outs made that, more of your described as a miserable job, so much more enjoyable. 33:15.081 --> 33:17.162 [SPEAKER_02]: So that was great. 33:17.222 --> 33:18.723 [SPEAKER_02]: So again, Friday we had to meet up. 33:21.721 --> 33:34.172 [SPEAKER_02]: Hoffman estate is a good 30 minutes from O'Hare Airport and Chicago would be like if you're taking O'Hare as the center point Chicago's the other way 30 minutes. 33:34.752 --> 33:43.359 [SPEAKER_02]: So from the loop from the center of Chicago, it's a good 45 minute close to depending upon traffic could be an hour drive, right? 33:44.280 --> 33:53.823 [SPEAKER_02]: So from a convenience factor, and I know other promotions run there and they do have other events, but it's quite a choice. 33:56.684 --> 34:03.207 [SPEAKER_02]: That said, so I'll fast forward a little bit to Saturday. 34:13.292 --> 34:13.913 [SPEAKER_02]: What a great dude. 34:14.413 --> 34:29.712 [SPEAKER_02]: Like he the way he opened his him and his wife the way that they opened up his home to all us lunatics For a couple of hours and let me tell you something the dude can cook some fucking barbecue dude He looked delicious. 34:29.752 --> 34:31.514 [SPEAKER_00]: I wanted to know what were the tastiest things. 34:31.614 --> 34:32.155 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm good 34:32.535 --> 34:56.380 [SPEAKER_02]: The mac and cheese was was banging the ribs were outstanding like you know how like you go to someone's backyard barbecue And you're always worried a little bit like am I gonna catch fucking salmon a little police anything like it And again my is this food gonna be rancid is this gonna be and not that I was thinking about going in because people were had already Raved about it before but you know, you just kind of like okay, you know, let's let's see what we got 34:57.820 --> 35:05.382 [SPEAKER_02]: there was, it was delicious, pulled pork sandwiches, unbelievable, like I couldn't eat everything there. 35:07.202 --> 35:07.963 [SPEAKER_02]: It was just great. 35:08.883 --> 35:12.884 [SPEAKER_02]: And here's, again, once again, the other thing, the people there, the people there, rich crache. 35:13.504 --> 35:14.664 [SPEAKER_02]: Let's talk a little bit about rich crache. 35:16.765 --> 35:25.387 [SPEAKER_02]: Unbelievable, just like, like, okay, so you know how he comes across on the show, the flagship. 35:26.418 --> 35:34.647 [SPEAKER_02]: It's that plus even more kind of laid back, like just like a guy that you want to hang out with. 35:36.369 --> 35:47.220 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh my god, who, what was it, it's not, I'll talk about the keeping it strong style, a component, but what's the other strong style? 35:47.240 --> 35:48.121 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry, help me out here. 35:50.013 --> 35:55.243 [SPEAKER_02]: Speaking of strong stuff, Jeremy, yes, great guy. 35:55.624 --> 35:57.547 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, and again, I get it. 35:57.668 --> 35:59.832 [SPEAKER_02]: It's like when you're first walking up 36:00.780 --> 36:01.581 [SPEAKER_02]: to something like this. 36:01.601 --> 36:02.902 [SPEAKER_02]: And you're like, all right, I'm gonna commit. 36:03.182 --> 36:10.108 [SPEAKER_02]: And the hardest part, as I said, while I was here, is like, you know, come into these things, it's like, the hardest part is to put in on the pants and the shoes and going. 36:10.569 --> 36:11.089 [SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean? 36:11.409 --> 36:16.954 [SPEAKER_02]: Cause it's very easy to be like, ugh, I don't know, you know, I don't know any of these people and when am I gonna do it? 36:17.295 --> 36:18.696 [SPEAKER_02]: Trust me, I've been there and I've done that. 36:18.796 --> 36:19.236 [SPEAKER_02]: I know it. 36:19.657 --> 36:21.038 [SPEAKER_02]: I know that fucking feeling. 36:21.358 --> 36:27.063 [SPEAKER_02]: Imagine the feeling of organizing something and getting there and having a panic attack thinking, nobody's gonna show up. 36:28.264 --> 36:29.965 [SPEAKER_02]: like I'm going to be the only one here. 36:30.045 --> 36:30.446 [SPEAKER_02]: I know it. 36:31.706 --> 36:36.089 [SPEAKER_02]: But then, you know, he was the first person to show up, and what a great guy. 36:36.369 --> 36:37.330 [SPEAKER_02]: What a fun dude. 36:38.130 --> 36:44.274 [SPEAKER_02]: God, I'm thinking of trying to think of like, like, so many people were great. 36:44.434 --> 36:47.616 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, and I know I'm missing people and I apologize. 36:49.137 --> 36:50.157 [SPEAKER_02]: But again, 36:51.273 --> 36:52.093 [SPEAKER_02]: keep in its strong side. 36:52.113 --> 36:54.475 [SPEAKER_00]: The statements missed you out, then you fell to make an impression. 36:54.515 --> 36:55.735 [SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, that's not true at all. 36:55.795 --> 36:56.476 [SPEAKER_02]: It's not true at all. 36:56.616 --> 36:58.237 [SPEAKER_02]: It's not true at all. 36:58.457 --> 37:04.260 [SPEAKER_02]: But again, keeping a strong style journey was, you know, awesome as always. 37:04.840 --> 37:09.402 [SPEAKER_02]: And it's hard because you're trying to, because he was staying in the center of Chicago. 37:11.492 --> 37:23.385 [SPEAKER_02]: So it was hard, like, and it's, you know, you can't, I don't expect anybody to drive a fucking hour to get, you know, you know, especially when you got plans and you would see in shows, I was like, don't, don't sweat it. 37:23.405 --> 37:23.846 [SPEAKER_02]: We'll catch up. 37:23.906 --> 37:24.547 [SPEAKER_02]: We'll catch up tomorrow. 37:25.187 --> 37:27.710 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, God. 37:28.371 --> 37:28.992 [SPEAKER_02]: Andrew Rich. 37:29.872 --> 37:33.536 [SPEAKER_02]: and your rich is maybe my favorite personal God's Green Earth. 37:34.037 --> 37:45.810 [SPEAKER_02]: Like he is like he and I don't know like I feel like we are kindred spirits in the sense of he knows when my battery is low. 37:47.675 --> 37:57.143 [SPEAKER_02]: And he just, he doesn't feel the need to just do idle chitchat when it's, you know what I mean? 37:57.164 --> 38:02.268 [SPEAKER_02]: Like he just, we sat there next to each other for a good 15 minutes and probably didn't say a word to each other. 38:02.808 --> 38:06.251 [SPEAKER_00]: And then he'll just put on his just give you a general reassuring squeeze of the hands. 38:07.132 --> 38:10.155 [SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm lovingly in your eyes and just the silence is faster. 38:10.795 --> 38:13.598 [SPEAKER_02]: But then he just goes, you want to hear a joke? 38:15.729 --> 38:16.490 [SPEAKER_02]: You want to hear a joke? 38:16.770 --> 38:17.471 [SPEAKER_02]: How's he getting it? 38:17.591 --> 38:18.171 [SPEAKER_02]: I want to hear a joke. 38:18.432 --> 38:23.276 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't even remember the joke, be honest with me, but it was just such a fucking out-of-left field thing. 38:23.757 --> 38:25.999 [SPEAKER_02]: Teddy did kill me. 38:26.139 --> 38:28.942 [SPEAKER_02]: I was just like, I just, I just, I just find him amazing. 38:30.724 --> 38:35.989 [SPEAKER_02]: Again, I can go, Tyler, from, Tyler Furnace. 38:36.009 --> 38:39.212 [SPEAKER_02]: He does the AEW podcast on the voice. 38:40.453 --> 38:43.954 [SPEAKER_02]: Yep, what a great dude, just a great fucking guy. 38:44.094 --> 38:54.977 [SPEAKER_02]: And I remember Dallas, and I wasn't going to go to G-1 Dallas, and it was Boos Leppercon, who we talked a little bit about, who, again, I hope she's doing well. 38:55.517 --> 39:01.098 [SPEAKER_02]: I haven't heard from a million years, and him that helped arrange me to go. 39:01.318 --> 39:03.079 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, literally paid for my fucking play. 39:03.979 --> 39:05.759 [SPEAKER_02]: And I've thanked him a million times for that. 39:05.839 --> 39:06.699 [SPEAKER_02]: It was just awesome. 39:09.152 --> 39:24.371 [SPEAKER_02]: great guy and and this the whole weekend was filled with that and um yeah so I know I'm ramble in a little bit but like that was really it that what if if I took away anything from that weekend it was the fact that 39:25.305 --> 39:34.674 [SPEAKER_02]: We, I got together with people that enjoy this product and want it to work and we laugh about it. 39:34.954 --> 39:44.202 [SPEAKER_02]: We giggle about it, we giggle about our relationships that we have and our spouses and partners who make fun of us for even like, you know what I mean? 39:44.222 --> 39:48.446 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, it's just common bond that we all had that was really, 39:49.563 --> 40:06.905 [SPEAKER_02]: fantastic and I hope and pray that one day and I know this sounds corny as corny can be that everyone listening through this has the opportunity to share that with people in their lives and if they don't 40:07.586 --> 40:16.516 [SPEAKER_02]: the invitation is always there, except you need to pay $10 for Patreon or be involved in voices of wrestling network. 40:16.757 --> 40:18.819 [SPEAKER_02]: And I told Rich this, too. 40:19.139 --> 40:21.562 [SPEAKER_02]: I made sure that I took them aside and told them this. 40:22.083 --> 40:24.125 [SPEAKER_02]: I said, Rich, none of this. 40:24.975 --> 40:26.577 [SPEAKER_02]: I said, I want you to look around. 40:26.717 --> 40:33.967 [SPEAKER_02]: These two sweets here and that Chris Sam's set up again does a fucking unbelievable job that weekend. 40:34.388 --> 40:35.970 [SPEAKER_02]: But I said, Rich, I want you to take a look around here. 40:36.350 --> 40:38.533 [SPEAKER_02]: I said, everyone here is because of you and Joe. 40:39.440 --> 40:51.886 [SPEAKER_02]: and what you created, like, would our show be as popular, would our, what I even think that I could do a podcast, would I even have a connection with Joel that wasn't for voices of wrestling? 40:52.267 --> 41:05.273 [SPEAKER_02]: What I have, what I meet all these people, would, like, like, you, like, take a step back and recognize that the work that you did is not just you and Joe doing a great 41:09.235 --> 41:22.745 [SPEAKER_02]: and nobody's getting rich doing this, but know that the impact you've had on so many people's lives, not just the listeners, but us, and he was like, holy shit through that, okay, all right, yeah, I get it. 41:23.325 --> 41:24.766 [SPEAKER_02]: I appreciate that. 41:24.887 --> 41:25.647 [SPEAKER_02]: And there was a lot of that. 41:25.667 --> 41:28.629 [SPEAKER_02]: There was a lot of, you know what, that was an awesome dude, I appreciate that. 41:28.749 --> 41:29.030 [SPEAKER_02]: And that 41:29.890 --> 41:30.611 [SPEAKER_02]: I appreciate it. 41:30.891 --> 41:32.192 [SPEAKER_02]: So, there you go. 41:32.232 --> 41:33.152 [SPEAKER_02]: That was the weekend. 41:34.433 --> 41:41.097 [SPEAKER_02]: I would say, Joe, if you just go to Chicago just for fucking portillos, I'm telling you the hot dogs. 41:41.697 --> 41:42.378 [SPEAKER_02]: That's fucking hot dog. 41:42.398 --> 41:44.139 [SPEAKER_02]: I've ever had on my life. 41:45.179 --> 41:45.600 [SPEAKER_02]: So good. 41:49.502 --> 41:54.585 [SPEAKER_02]: It was just a great weekend and I hope everyone would have an opportunity to experience it like we did. 41:56.173 --> 42:09.858 [SPEAKER_00]: and how was the atmosphere inside the building like the vibes from the crowd did you get the sense that it was mainly New Japan hard calls or was it like a significant proportion of a W fans in there from what you could tell and just yeah just what was the buzz like inside. 42:10.418 --> 42:12.939 [SPEAKER_00]: I think there was a decent mix. 42:13.539 --> 42:17.141 [SPEAKER_02]: And during G1 a show. 42:17.881 --> 42:26.705 [SPEAKER_02]: New Japan will play a video, I think it's Creed who does the song or one of those Creed-type bands, this is a music. 42:27.105 --> 42:35.128 [SPEAKER_02]: When you are with a title like that, there's a free, right, something along those lines, you know, the song like that. 42:37.669 --> 43:00.832 [SPEAKER_02]: And they show highlights of past G ones and the winners and they'll show like a little little snap shot and then they'll show a like clips of them winning that year's G one, you know, Ricky Cho shoes and massive hero show nose and you know even like Kenji Moodo and you know, older guys weren't getting. 43:02.211 --> 43:05.154 [SPEAKER_02]: merely a boo, or a whistle, or a cheer, whatever. 43:05.855 --> 43:16.705 [SPEAKER_02]: And as you got later on into the Okadas and Tanahashi's and Naito's, the cheers got louder, right? 43:17.206 --> 43:21.850 [SPEAKER_02]: And the one guy who got the most cheers was Kenny Omega, right? 43:23.518 --> 43:25.300 [SPEAKER_02]: I would say the crowd was a mix. 43:25.960 --> 43:30.164 [SPEAKER_02]: There were definite hardcore, New Japan Pro Wrestling fans. 43:31.825 --> 43:36.209 [SPEAKER_02]: There were definite, both, right? 43:36.229 --> 43:38.671 [SPEAKER_02]: There were definite fans of both promotions. 43:39.332 --> 43:40.472 [SPEAKER_02]: There were definite, 43:41.813 --> 43:54.362 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, casual, New Japan pro wrestling fans and, you know, they're showing up in CM punk t-shirts and wearing their titles and bringing their belts, um, there's a little bit of that. 43:55.102 --> 43:58.645 [SPEAKER_02]: It was, it was, it was a mix, but I will say this. 43:59.545 --> 44:04.450 [SPEAKER_02]: this crowd was up for everything. 44:05.110 --> 44:12.057 [SPEAKER_02]: So as the the pre show package is run on New Japan world into the hype video, 44:12.737 --> 44:13.978 [SPEAKER_02]: get everybody cranked up. 44:15.439 --> 44:17.020 [SPEAKER_02]: Fans were going a little bit nutty. 44:18.241 --> 44:29.649 [SPEAKER_02]: And Chris Charlton, you could see stand up at the booth and he's kind of leading the cheers, you know, hand movements and, you know, just pumping fists and that got the crowd even more into it. 44:30.730 --> 44:33.352 [SPEAKER_02]: And they were, they were rarely go from the jump. 44:33.912 --> 44:36.814 [SPEAKER_02]: I, you know, I've been to a handful of G 44:41.789 --> 44:43.230 [SPEAKER_02]: Dallas and this one. 44:44.170 --> 44:50.293 [SPEAKER_02]: And none of them were as a vocal as this. 44:51.753 --> 44:54.214 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, they were just transferred G1, right? 44:54.554 --> 44:58.236 [SPEAKER_02]: They were just chanting G1 because they were so hyped. 44:59.606 --> 45:10.658 [SPEAKER_02]: And everything, I felt like the, the, the, the, the, everyone knew the spots, like everyone when they were reversals and kicks it, kickouts of big moves, people were oon and oon. 45:11.599 --> 45:14.262 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, I, I thought the crowd was fantastic. 45:14.623 --> 45:15.424 [SPEAKER_02]: I really did. 45:16.084 --> 45:17.626 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, I will say this. 45:18.147 --> 45:18.908 [SPEAKER_02]: There is one dude. 45:19.987 --> 45:26.289 [SPEAKER_02]: where in this section we were sitting and he's sitting in the middle of the aisle, probably about seven rows below us. 45:27.269 --> 45:30.551 [SPEAKER_02]: And this guy was smoking a fucking dub, right? 45:30.751 --> 45:33.672 [SPEAKER_02]: Just out in the middle of just open note and smoke is billowing, right? 45:34.372 --> 45:44.355 [SPEAKER_02]: And it was the strongest fucking weed you've ever smelled in your goddamn life and I felt bad for people, like people behind them moved because it was just so unbut like, kids are there. 45:44.755 --> 45:47.056 [SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, like I just like, what are you doing dude? 45:51.219 --> 45:56.742 [SPEAKER_02]: I thought everyone was there and knew the assignment and were into it from the jump. 45:57.483 --> 46:03.727 [SPEAKER_02]: Guys that you thought, oh, it's probably not going to get, you know, get cheered or reaction. 46:04.207 --> 46:04.948 [SPEAKER_02]: Got reaction. 46:06.428 --> 46:10.251 [SPEAKER_02]: And what's really great is even deeper into the show. 46:13.359 --> 46:17.382 [SPEAKER_02]: where you would think, okay, people, they can't sustain this. 46:18.103 --> 46:19.164 [SPEAKER_02]: They're going to get burned out. 46:19.864 --> 46:27.590 [SPEAKER_02]: And there were times where it felt like, okay, one big move, and everybody was back into it. 46:27.690 --> 46:32.974 [SPEAKER_02]: One big suplex, one, one, whatever, people were back into it. 46:34.055 --> 46:35.516 [SPEAKER_02]: So the crowd, I gotta give it a plus. 46:35.896 --> 46:41.601 [SPEAKER_02]: Gotta give a fucking A plus to the crowd, cause I think they help propel that now, I listen to your review. 46:42.600 --> 46:54.773 [SPEAKER_02]: and you and made mention that whoever might this fucking show should be absolutely fired, because trust me, that made matches even better. 46:54.813 --> 47:00.460 [SPEAKER_02]: So if you thought matches were great, that the crowd noise put it over the top. 47:00.580 --> 47:03.703 [SPEAKER_02]: So if that didn't translate to through, 47:04.676 --> 47:05.697 [SPEAKER_02]: to a new Japan world. 47:06.759 --> 47:08.280 [SPEAKER_02]: Somebody needs to get their airs handed to them. 47:08.741 --> 47:10.463 [SPEAKER_00]: Because that was an exotic sex, well isn't it? 47:10.483 --> 47:12.525 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, it's such an easy fix. 47:12.545 --> 47:16.030 [SPEAKER_00]: So it seems to me like an easy fix anyway, because it just came across like amateur. 47:16.050 --> 47:21.857 [SPEAKER_00]: And it's a shame, because it's definitely taken a bit of the shine off what sounded like it live was incredible. 47:21.977 --> 47:24.139 [SPEAKER_00]: And there's no reason why that shouldn't come across 47:24.920 --> 47:43.328 [SPEAKER_00]: the audience watching on TV at home, and I just, I hope now that if there is a bit more money on the table with the Cybra agent and the TV SR, he maybe getting the wallet out of it, that is something they absolutely need to fix, because it's honestly, it's embarrassing having that rev-prone level audio set up. 47:43.988 --> 47:51.351 [SPEAKER_00]: A show that was outstanding, it was a brilliant show, and this should be an unequivocal celebration of how brilliant it was, but it was let down by 47:52.692 --> 47:55.415 [SPEAKER_00]: just shitty audio sets up and that's not on. 47:56.256 --> 47:57.217 [SPEAKER_02]: No, that's terrible. 47:57.357 --> 47:59.360 [SPEAKER_02]: And and here's the problem with that as well, Joe. 48:00.201 --> 48:04.806 [SPEAKER_02]: So people are sitting on their couches or wherever they enjoy the content. 48:07.089 --> 48:09.652 [SPEAKER_02]: And what better vehicle? 48:10.755 --> 48:12.616 [SPEAKER_02]: to get people to buy a ticket. 48:12.917 --> 48:19.502 [SPEAKER_02]: Now again, it's not like we're in the United States, very often, but you do wanna feed off that. 48:19.522 --> 48:23.345 [SPEAKER_02]: So when you do come back, people feel like, oh, I can't miss this fucking party. 48:24.166 --> 48:26.107 [SPEAKER_02]: I ain't sitting home, I need to be there. 48:26.908 --> 48:29.430 [SPEAKER_02]: And it was there for the taking. 48:29.630 --> 48:31.351 [SPEAKER_02]: Like the heavy lifting was done. 48:31.872 --> 48:39.357 [SPEAKER_02]: All that you had to do was mic the fucking arena properly and you'd have a slam dunk, an easy win. 48:40.278 --> 48:59.594 [SPEAKER_02]: And to hear that that wasn't done is just such a fucking massive disappointment because to me like they had a perfect storm for an a great show and people working their butts off to have that come across that way is it is it's incredibly disappointing. 49:00.672 --> 49:02.693 [SPEAKER_00]: Right, just one thing I've quickly want to show out. 49:02.713 --> 49:09.377 [SPEAKER_00]: So I've got a message on Discord from Arkham Knight, who has sent me a link to a website that he has made. 49:09.817 --> 49:13.539 [SPEAKER_00]: It's g1climax36.versel.app. 49:13.559 --> 49:17.521 [SPEAKER_00]: So that's v-e-r-c-e-l.app. 49:17.841 --> 49:20.223 [SPEAKER_00]: So this is a website where it's got, 49:21.223 --> 49:45.480 [SPEAKER_00]: One page for each of the G1 nights and you can put your own star ratings in there's a little kind of slider you can do and it tells you the results of the match it tells you who's one, how long the match when what finishing move they used and not only that there's a page for standing so it will give you the standings as well so where the rest of the are in the block how many points they've got and it will also curate based on the ratings that you've put in what 49:47.421 --> 49:49.622 [SPEAKER_00]: that you've rated so far in the tournament. 49:49.942 --> 49:52.323 [SPEAKER_00]: I've made just one slight request. 49:52.363 --> 50:04.306 [SPEAKER_00]: If you can add something onto it to curate a list or by ranking the wrestlers in each block by average star rating that you've given them, that would make this from a great website into an all-time. 50:04.326 --> 50:06.207 [SPEAKER_00]: But that as it is, this is fucking outstanding. 50:06.227 --> 50:11.108 [SPEAKER_00]: So again, if you want climate6.6.versell.app, that is an absolute must for me. 50:11.128 --> 50:12.609 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna be using this religiously. 50:12.629 --> 50:15.069 [SPEAKER_00]: So well done, I can like, because that is outstanding. 50:15.089 --> 50:16.430 [SPEAKER_00]: Everyone should definitely check that out. 50:17.170 --> 50:18.110 [SPEAKER_00]: Arkham Knight, great job. 50:18.150 --> 50:19.871 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, can you tweet out that? 50:19.971 --> 50:21.911 [SPEAKER_00]: Can you tweet out that of your role? 50:22.952 --> 50:23.492 [SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely. 50:23.552 --> 50:26.233 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, yes, it isn't that now, before I forget. 50:26.473 --> 50:28.593 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to ask you a question first while I'm doing that. 50:28.633 --> 50:30.254 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, let's talk, attendance. 50:30.534 --> 50:33.214 [SPEAKER_00]: So the attendance for the show was 4,133. 50:33.315 --> 50:39.916 [SPEAKER_00]: Now let's compare that to the G1 show in Dallas in July 2019. 50:40.456 --> 50:44.998 [SPEAKER_00]: So this was New Japan in its, you know, a lot of people would say golden age, right? 50:46.078 --> 50:47.541 [SPEAKER_00]: Best periods that the company's ever had. 50:48.122 --> 50:49.184 [SPEAKER_00]: So that did 4846. 50:49.204 --> 50:50.126 [SPEAKER_00]: So only 700 fewer. 50:55.013 --> 50:57.415 [SPEAKER_00]: than that Dallishon 2019 and that Dallishon, right? 50:57.475 --> 50:59.176 [SPEAKER_00]: I'll read you the card there. 50:59.697 --> 51:02.579 [SPEAKER_00]: Tamatonga tangala against showing you. 51:03.120 --> 51:06.422 [SPEAKER_00]: Rennerator in Jeff Cobb versus Shota Umano, Tommy here at E.C. 51:06.843 --> 51:08.964 [SPEAKER_00]: Goto and Yoshihashi versus Chase owns in J. 51:09.004 --> 51:09.225 [SPEAKER_00]: White. 51:09.845 --> 51:14.269 [SPEAKER_00]: Just thunder like a juice Robinson and Yano against Bushy, Schinger and Naito. 51:14.529 --> 51:17.471 [SPEAKER_00]: So even in the undercard, you know, there's just a few stars there. 51:17.491 --> 51:17.772 [SPEAKER_00]: Thanks. 51:18.392 --> 51:28.600 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, then the G1 match themselves, lots of hard triggins will offer a bad luck file against evil, so none of us is actually a Virginia, canter versus code to Ibushi, and then Ocarda versus Tanahashi main events. 51:28.620 --> 51:32.963 [SPEAKER_00]: So this is like a really strong card, very, very strong roster from New Japan for arresting. 51:33.384 --> 51:37.006 [SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, that's a solid number. 51:37.647 --> 51:40.909 [SPEAKER_00]: And I just think sort of by comparison, 4133, that's, 51:44.452 --> 51:45.033 [SPEAKER_00]: really good. 51:45.173 --> 51:51.357 [SPEAKER_00]: I think that's a really, a very, very respectable number that needs your passion to be proud of. 51:51.558 --> 51:52.038 [SPEAKER_02]: I agree. 51:52.879 --> 51:55.641 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, again, if you're taking into consideration, 51:58.903 --> 52:05.987 [SPEAKER_02]: one, it's probably going to be one of the higher attended G1 shows of the entire tour, right? 52:07.548 --> 52:16.232 [SPEAKER_02]: So if you're looking at just the raw number of it, yes, now again, if you wanted to be negative net, you could and say, well, okay, well, what's the rent on the building? 52:16.773 --> 52:18.874 [SPEAKER_02]: What's how much of the cost of fly everybody in? 52:19.974 --> 52:24.577 [SPEAKER_02]: How much did it, you know, for the hotel stay at the fucking renovated comfort in? 52:26.679 --> 52:38.654 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, all the logistics and, you know, the lighting and the stage set up and all of that stuff that goes into it was an profitable show. 52:39.936 --> 52:40.356 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know. 52:40.917 --> 52:41.618 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I don't know. 52:42.318 --> 52:42.579 [SPEAKER_02]: But, 52:45.622 --> 52:47.823 [SPEAKER_02]: You also got to consider the fact, Joel, that. 52:48.823 --> 52:50.864 [SPEAKER_02]: So the numbers are pretty comparable, okay? 52:51.144 --> 52:57.906 [SPEAKER_02]: So what we talking about 400, 500, maybe more that we're in Dallas. 52:59.066 --> 53:04.688 [SPEAKER_02]: Ticket prices were more expensive for this show, or in the ring side, see, it's more pretty crazy. 53:06.108 --> 53:11.010 [SPEAKER_02]: And that was packed, like that floor section was packed. 53:15.471 --> 53:21.192 [SPEAKER_02]: sides of the camera, you know, the center of the ring first level, those were full. 53:21.312 --> 53:31.814 [SPEAKER_02]: And as you kind of wrapped around, it kind of got less and less, but then, like toward the end, so the, I guess the opposite of the rampway, those were pretty full. 53:32.734 --> 53:40.476 [SPEAKER_02]: So I don't know if they had like discounted tickets for that set those sections or what have you, but those were decent, let's put it this way. 53:41.096 --> 53:42.277 [SPEAKER_02]: the merchandise line. 53:42.617 --> 53:53.127 [SPEAKER_02]: This is something that I think might kind of fall on the radar, but the line for merchandise, Joel, wrapped half way around the fucking building. 53:53.868 --> 53:58.031 [SPEAKER_02]: So they had a gigantic booth on one side of the arena. 53:58.091 --> 54:00.614 [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't walk the entire concourse, but and I should have 54:03.581 --> 54:07.483 [SPEAKER_02]: Like the line for merch was enormous. 54:08.123 --> 54:10.224 [SPEAKER_02]: It wrapped around the concourse. 54:11.865 --> 54:18.968 [SPEAKER_02]: Like I kept walking to get to our suite and I'm like, is still the fucking merchandise line? 54:19.428 --> 54:22.490 [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm walking and I'm still the fucking merchandise line. 54:22.970 --> 54:26.532 [SPEAKER_02]: It was, they had, I'm very curious. 54:27.192 --> 54:32.096 [SPEAKER_02]: to see a number, and I'm sure that we can find a way to get it. 54:33.377 --> 54:35.379 [SPEAKER_02]: Merchandice number for Chicago. 54:36.320 --> 54:44.326 [SPEAKER_02]: I promise you, they did a very sexy number just in March alone, because the line was massive. 54:44.827 --> 54:52.673 [SPEAKER_02]: And if you figure, even if somebody buys A-T-Shirt at $20, and he was thinking, it didn't look like people were just buying A-T-Shirt. 54:53.074 --> 54:54.595 [SPEAKER_02]: They were buying multiple things. 54:59.051 --> 55:06.754 [SPEAKER_02]: If they had losses, getting here, that shipped away at any financial losses was merch. 55:06.814 --> 55:21.960 [SPEAKER_02]: So outstanding job by the people that set those tables, got the merch going, the line again, it wouldn't be, it would have been better to have two multiple ones, I don't know, but yeah, that line people were wanting their shit, that's for sure. 55:23.437 --> 55:37.811 [SPEAKER_00]: No, we're going to obviously discuss the matches later in this specific rest of it, but I just wanted to touch on the fact that I'm aware that the crowd will read hot for conoscé to catch the specifically, which tells us a bit about perhaps the DAW influence in that crowd. 55:38.431 --> 55:38.632 [SPEAKER_00]: What? 55:39.052 --> 55:46.158 [SPEAKER_00]: Do you think New Japan can learn from this with regard to the collaboration with a W? 55:46.198 --> 55:58.987 [SPEAKER_00]: Because I'm not going to say, oh, well, this number is all because of a W, but there's there's something there isn't there, like without to catch the being a star in a W, then you know, you wonder what that number looks like. 55:59.228 --> 56:03.631 [SPEAKER_00]: Like what do you think New Japan can take away from that with regards to the partnership? 56:05.277 --> 56:11.422 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, especially for the US shows, I think let's break it down first this way. 56:12.523 --> 56:17.347 [SPEAKER_02]: You're talking about a guy who's incredibly, incredibly talented. 56:18.028 --> 56:21.491 [SPEAKER_02]: He looks the part, he can wrestle the part. 56:21.691 --> 56:31.580 [SPEAKER_02]: He has the TV time, so he has the recognition factor for a lot of people who just want to turn on the TV and watch Pro Wrestling. 56:34.939 --> 56:43.670 [SPEAKER_02]: So if we're talking about U.S. Bay shows, I know that there was some head scratching like, that's kind of weird that that Suji would go over in this spot. 56:44.731 --> 56:53.823 [SPEAKER_02]: I agree and I disagree in the sense that one, I think it's very important to do our best to try to make 56:55.398 --> 57:05.589 [SPEAKER_02]: Yota Suji, who right now is the guy that we're depending upon to help carry this promotion to be as strong as possible, right? 57:06.069 --> 57:16.100 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, and there is one way to do that, and that is to get a win over a legitimate star to kick off for G1. 57:17.582 --> 57:17.682 [SPEAKER_02]: Now. 57:19.148 --> 57:23.096 [SPEAKER_02]: Could you have said, okay, well, let's flip the script a little bit. 57:23.537 --> 57:28.987 [SPEAKER_02]: Let's give the star the win and send people home happy and cheering and all of that. 57:31.380 --> 57:38.763 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to sit here and say that people were running toward the exit exits when the finish happened and boot and that wasn't the case at all. 57:39.583 --> 57:48.686 [SPEAKER_02]: People were filing toward the exit just because it was the end of the show and they weren't going to wait around and listen to a Japanese promo because they weren't going to understand 98% of it, right? 57:49.606 --> 57:53.648 [SPEAKER_02]: So they're trying to beat traffic, get out the fucking door, I'm not going to blame over for that. 57:57.536 --> 58:11.219 [SPEAKER_02]: I honestly thought they were gonna go the way of, okay, let's give the A dot W guy, the win, the, get him, give him his win back, and, and do it that way. 58:11.984 --> 58:15.848 [SPEAKER_02]: But I'm kind of happy that they didn't, that they had, here's what I like about it. 58:16.328 --> 58:24.376 [SPEAKER_02]: At least they had the balls to do, they set a course and they had the balls to say, okay, our champion is winning in our event. 58:24.857 --> 58:26.478 [SPEAKER_02]: It just happens to fall on the United States. 58:28.987 --> 58:31.248 [SPEAKER_00]: I was your sushi that insisted specifically. 58:31.508 --> 58:31.808 [SPEAKER_00]: Was it? 58:32.769 --> 58:35.750 [SPEAKER_00]: It was originally to Keshe's book when and he said, fuck that noise. 58:35.870 --> 58:37.231 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going over, or I'm going home. 58:37.771 --> 58:38.812 [SPEAKER_02]: That's right, that's that. 58:38.852 --> 58:39.292 [SPEAKER_02]: I like that. 58:39.352 --> 58:43.173 [SPEAKER_02]: I like his, I like his, no fear approach. 58:43.294 --> 58:46.035 [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, I trust Matt, I think he could go both ways. 58:46.495 --> 58:54.299 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think, at least, in my, from my perspective, that it's not like people went home, like, whoa, what the fuck? 58:54.319 --> 58:56.800 [SPEAKER_02]: Like this wasn't a situation where it was like, 58:57.600 --> 59:04.422 [SPEAKER_02]: you know, night to losing to avocado, wrestle kingdom, where people were just looking at each other like, whoa, what? 59:04.863 --> 59:06.923 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, that was not supposed, was that supposed? 59:07.183 --> 59:09.924 [SPEAKER_02]: Why would they, you know, that wasn't it. 59:10.145 --> 59:16.087 [SPEAKER_02]: It was more of one, two, three, ah, but that was a great match. 59:16.547 --> 59:18.928 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, you know, that's really the what it felt like. 59:18.948 --> 59:21.208 [SPEAKER_02]: It didn't feel like somebody let air out of the balloon. 59:21.869 --> 59:25.310 [SPEAKER_02]: It maybe a little bit, maybe a tiny bit, 59:25.873 --> 59:31.599 [SPEAKER_02]: But I think people were still fucking high on the match and feel on the vibes off of that. 59:31.939 --> 59:35.623 [SPEAKER_02]: I just think people were just like, okay, well, here comes a promo that I'm not going to fucking understand. 59:35.963 --> 59:37.845 [SPEAKER_02]: Let me, let me see if I can beat traffic. 59:37.865 --> 59:40.848 [SPEAKER_02]: They get the fuck out of this arena because really getting out of there. 59:41.308 --> 59:42.329 [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm not making this up. 59:42.369 --> 59:42.950 [SPEAKER_02]: It's one row. 59:43.450 --> 59:45.292 [SPEAKER_02]: It's really one row. 59:45.633 --> 59:49.196 [SPEAKER_02]: So it can, I can see where it could be a little bit of a pain in the ass getting out. 59:51.436 --> 59:56.797 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I didn't feel that there was a sense of, oh, my guy didn't win, so fuck this show. 59:56.937 --> 59:57.757 [SPEAKER_02]: Not that wasn't the case. 59:59.598 --> 01:00:02.498 [SPEAKER_00]: Did it feel like a proper authentic New Japan show to you? 01:00:02.618 --> 01:00:04.879 [SPEAKER_02]: It did, it absolutely did. 01:00:05.259 --> 01:00:10.880 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think the one thing that really helped it was one, there was no filler. 01:00:11.340 --> 01:00:17.581 [SPEAKER_02]: Like there wasn't, you know, the multi-man tag matches that might litter a G1 card. 01:00:18.002 --> 01:00:19.642 [SPEAKER_02]: It was, every match was important. 01:00:20.695 --> 01:00:33.867 [SPEAKER_02]: uh... for a lot of people is the first time seeing a lot of these guys uh... in the important singles matches i can't stress that enough yet from top to bottom everything felt like 01:00:34.780 --> 01:00:39.364 [SPEAKER_02]: like you could have been at a random Japanese G1 show. 01:00:39.824 --> 01:00:43.467 [SPEAKER_02]: It really did, and that's been a big complaint of mine. 01:00:43.847 --> 01:00:55.035 [SPEAKER_02]: In many many many times where it felt, it feels like New Japan, light, or New Japan strong, and certainly not New Japan. 01:00:55.336 --> 01:01:01.180 [SPEAKER_02]: Now this really felt like a New Japan pro wrestling show 01:01:05.753 --> 01:01:06.594 [SPEAKER_00]: Where'd you like to start? 01:01:06.614 --> 01:01:09.877 [SPEAKER_00]: Do you want to go main event backwards or start chronologically? 01:01:11.219 --> 01:01:12.720 [SPEAKER_02]: You know what, I think I've been that we're here. 01:01:12.740 --> 01:01:15.663 [SPEAKER_02]: I think we should probably start with the main event. 01:01:16.324 --> 01:01:20.328 [SPEAKER_02]: Only because, well, you know what, let's start, let's start from top to bottom. 01:01:20.468 --> 01:01:21.269 [SPEAKER_02]: Why don't we do that? 01:01:21.349 --> 01:01:22.570 [SPEAKER_02]: We'll say the best or less. 01:01:24.172 --> 01:01:26.474 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so you want to start with... An eye? 01:01:26.494 --> 01:01:26.995 [SPEAKER_00]: An eye? 01:01:28.935 --> 01:01:29.095 [SPEAKER_00]: Right? 01:01:29.255 --> 01:01:36.423 [SPEAKER_00]: So, order for our on winning against Henry Nine Minutes one second by a reversed angle slam. 01:01:36.683 --> 01:01:37.084 [SPEAKER_00]: Your thoughts? 01:01:37.304 --> 01:01:42.029 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going to give my thoughts because if you want my thoughts and you get a wallet out, it's all that I'm taking. 01:01:42.049 --> 01:01:46.754 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going to rehash my take so you can you can fucking pay for that if you want to hear my takes. 01:01:46.774 --> 01:01:47.795 [SPEAKER_00]: What did you think of it then? 01:01:48.437 --> 01:01:57.032 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, one, and I've said this previously in the preview, the, what a perfect partner, right? 01:01:57.373 --> 01:01:59.757 [SPEAKER_02]: Because Hanoi's down for anything, like Hanoi, 01:02:02.279 --> 01:02:08.465 [SPEAKER_02]: should and did and was successful in leading this match, right? 01:02:08.645 --> 01:02:16.672 [SPEAKER_02]: So, again, Aaron Wolf, I wouldn't trust to go out there and work and control a match and call the spots and do all that. 01:02:16.712 --> 01:02:27.943 [SPEAKER_02]: So, Henry's been around the block more than a few times and he's comfortable doing that and from what we understand, you know, there's no issue there. 01:02:28.997 --> 01:02:42.874 [SPEAKER_02]: the joy of that, gave, it felt like Aaron Wolf a lot of freedom and a lot of comfortability, where he could focus on things that he does very well. 01:02:44.917 --> 01:02:50.380 [SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, maybe stretch his limbs a little bit and I don't mean that in a literal sense. 01:02:50.520 --> 01:02:52.701 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean more of expand. 01:02:52.961 --> 01:02:56.483 [SPEAKER_02]: Do things that maybe he won't normally do. 01:02:57.724 --> 01:03:02.447 [SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, the business end of this match picked up when he got tossed outside the ring. 01:03:02.887 --> 01:03:05.248 [SPEAKER_02]: And that's when things really started to heat up and pick up. 01:03:06.049 --> 01:03:09.651 [SPEAKER_02]: Aaron was still able to do a lot of his soup lexes and, you know, 01:03:10.431 --> 01:03:16.773 [SPEAKER_02]: creative, Sue Plex is the front facing one, and her and her worries there to take everyone of it. 01:03:17.233 --> 01:03:30.598 [SPEAKER_02]: Hard hits, like there were a couple of fucking shops and strikes that you're just like, oh, wow, just, you know, because you're a hair standup, we have something with Aaron Loftoo. 01:03:31.258 --> 01:03:38.000 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, like, all that he really, all that I really expected of was, 01:03:39.720 --> 01:03:45.047 [SPEAKER_02]: follow Henari's lead and we'll he'll take us to where we need to go and I was comfortable with that. 01:03:45.088 --> 01:03:55.942 [SPEAKER_02]: But it even felt like Wolf was able to stretch out a little bit and do again do things that might not be things that you know he's done before in a ring. 01:03:56.463 --> 01:03:59.964 [SPEAKER_02]: again, he's not hitting moon salts mind you, but you get my point. 01:03:59.984 --> 01:04:09.227 [SPEAKER_02]: There was a little bit more breathing room, and a little bit more, and that got me even more excited about him in G1 and just seeing more of that and doing more of that. 01:04:09.647 --> 01:04:10.807 [SPEAKER_02]: I think we have a blue chipper too. 01:04:11.007 --> 01:04:16.689 [SPEAKER_02]: I really and honestly do, and I'll go so far as to say this when it comes to Hennari. 01:04:18.870 --> 01:04:19.750 [SPEAKER_02]: Underrated is fuck. 01:04:20.689 --> 01:04:22.490 [SPEAKER_02]: underrated this fuck. 01:04:22.830 --> 01:04:30.992 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if he'll ever really truly get his due and I'll put that in the air quotes because nobody gets a due. 01:04:31.672 --> 01:04:44.295 [SPEAKER_02]: But I wonder out loud where he would be without those injury setbacks and those those those those roadblocks where you always think boy he's he's 01:04:51.523 --> 01:04:57.303 [SPEAKER_02]: underrated he'll get my he'll get a vote for underrated uh... wrestler and argue around awards for sure 01:04:59.238 --> 01:05:06.543 [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's important that we manage our expectations with Aaron Wolf and again, not get bogged down in the micro analysis of how he performs on a given night. 01:05:06.583 --> 01:05:13.527 [SPEAKER_00]: Because again, as I keep reminding people, he is very, very new to this and he's figuring it out as he's going on and learning on the job. 01:05:13.547 --> 01:05:24.434 [SPEAKER_00]: So I think it's, I find it more interesting to sort of look at what he's improving at on a sort of month to month basis rather than just analyzing the match in a vacuum. 01:05:24.454 --> 01:05:25.734 [SPEAKER_00]: So I think as he, 01:05:26.755 --> 01:05:31.381 [SPEAKER_00]: grows and develops, he's going to become more confident and more fluid and things in and become more natural to him. 01:05:31.401 --> 01:05:32.763 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like driving a car, isn't it? 01:05:32.903 --> 01:05:39.311 [SPEAKER_00]: When you start off learning to drive, you are thinking about each of those individual parts to it. 01:05:39.331 --> 01:05:41.494 [SPEAKER_00]: Right, thinking, ah, I've got to check my mirror now. 01:05:41.814 --> 01:05:43.456 [SPEAKER_00]: I've got to look over my shoulder before I put out. 01:05:45.298 --> 01:05:46.319 [SPEAKER_00]: hand on my clutch control. 01:05:46.339 --> 01:06:02.274 [SPEAKER_00]: I've got to make sure my hands on the right part of the steering wheel and you're thinking about each of those and it's a clunky experience but then as you become more confident and those become second nature to you and more fluid then you can start thinking about other things and yeah I'm very infused by what I've seen so far and 01:06:02.754 --> 01:06:10.561 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just really excited to see him develop as he starts to put things together, so I'm not expecting immediate match of the year candidate. 01:06:10.581 --> 01:06:27.915 [SPEAKER_00]: So I think even with all that being said, I think he's overperforming, even the circumstances, and I'm so I'm really bullish about this kind of discourse that somehow working with House of Torture has been a negative to hear. 01:06:28.556 --> 01:06:29.377 [SPEAKER_00]: I kind of feel that the 01:06:32.007 --> 01:06:49.444 [SPEAKER_00]: vindicate that decision that he was given a sort of low risk relatively low intensity environment to work with guys like Evil and Farley and Ren to sort of figure out and just get used to being in high profile singles matches whilst he worked out the basics. 01:06:50.370 --> 01:06:55.051 [SPEAKER_00]: And now he's got the basics and has sort of got that ball and is running with it. 01:06:55.131 --> 01:07:08.334 [SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know, I just, I still can't really agree with the people who think it would have been better for him to be wrestling the dads instead of just getting his hand on the basics. 01:07:08.414 --> 01:07:11.395 [SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, but I don't know, David, maybe I'm kind of, 01:07:12.842 --> 01:07:23.691 [SPEAKER_00]: trying to sort of manipulate things to fit my narrative, but I certainly, where we are now with our, I don't see any issues or any ill effects from whom having worked that program with House of torture. 01:07:23.951 --> 01:07:25.712 [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's fine to say you don't like it. 01:07:26.473 --> 01:07:30.636 [SPEAKER_00]: If you don't like it, just say, yeah, I didn't like it, but I understand it's good for his development. 01:07:31.057 --> 01:07:36.941 [SPEAKER_00]: But the people that had sort of tried to twist that into everything about it was bad, and it would have been better if they did it the way I liked. 01:07:37.001 --> 01:07:39.063 [SPEAKER_00]: I just, I find that disingenuous. 01:07:39.183 --> 01:07:41.225 [SPEAKER_00]: It's okay to not like it, just say you don't like it. 01:07:41.805 --> 01:07:43.126 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I didn't like it. 01:07:43.306 --> 01:07:44.427 [SPEAKER_02]: I'll be all of it. 01:07:45.608 --> 01:07:56.618 [SPEAKER_02]: And I will go to my grave with the idea that his learning would be expedited, and I think he would learn more being in the ring with a Eugene 01:08:04.758 --> 01:08:15.123 [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like he would get more of a solid basics under his belt as opposed to learning how to sell being choked by a rope, right? 01:08:16.003 --> 01:08:21.306 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, again, I don't think he's working with the guys like Nakata all the time in the dojo though. 01:08:22.456 --> 01:08:49.516 [SPEAKER_02]: big difference between Dojo and getting out there in front of in front of people looking at you and making connections and developing that way as opposed to now I will say this if you're looking for a method and a vehicle to say okay you we need to cheer you and get behind you and rally behind you yes that's that's that is a more direct path with house a torture absolutely 01:08:52.276 --> 01:09:04.963 [SPEAKER_02]: What I'd rather see him really get the fundamentals of the pro wrestling down in an environment with the dads, again, as opposed to learning how to sell getting chilled with the rope. 01:09:05.935 --> 01:09:08.997 [SPEAKER_00]: But they're like, they're doing him a win in his first G1 match. 01:09:09.357 --> 01:09:09.597 [SPEAKER_00]: That's true. 01:09:09.617 --> 01:09:10.678 [SPEAKER_00]: He's never open right champion. 01:09:10.698 --> 01:09:15.341 [SPEAKER_00]: He's beaten a relatively established guy in Henare, absolutely clean as a sheet. 01:09:16.241 --> 01:09:21.424 [SPEAKER_00]: So I just, I don't think you could, you could have done that and have him wrestle against the dad. 01:09:21.484 --> 01:09:26.988 [SPEAKER_00]: Whilst also trying to maintain this presentation of him, like he's actually really good at pro wrestling already. 01:09:27.788 --> 01:09:29.450 [SPEAKER_00]: Because how would you, how would you've done that? 01:09:29.490 --> 01:09:38.400 [SPEAKER_00]: Like he's beaten Jesus, one of the top guys in the company for the never overweight title and he's very first pro wrestling match, but now he's just going to fuck around with the dads for a few months. 01:09:39.001 --> 01:09:46.048 [SPEAKER_00]: Whereas I think they've kind of had to balance that timeline between developing him as a wrestler, but also in KFA presenting him as. 01:09:47.269 --> 01:09:59.653 [SPEAKER_00]: like a very good at his job already, like he's serious, you know, he lost to those guys because they cheated and they outnumbered and they kept his job blah, blah, blah, but he's still a protected communities never over way championed. 01:09:59.813 --> 01:10:09.717 [SPEAKER_00]: One is first G1 match and I don't know if you can get to that point by saying, oh, you know, he's just going to play grab ass with the, with the old fellas for a few months, you're not aware. 01:10:10.417 --> 01:10:22.694 [SPEAKER_02]: I hear, and I totally, would people's opinions be different if it wasn't falling in the end, and maybe if it was Sonata, or if it was, and again, probably wouldn't be this, but that's what I'm talking about. 01:10:22.714 --> 01:10:25.838 [SPEAKER_00]: Just say, you don't, you don't, you don't, you don't like, right now it's it, that's fine. 01:10:26.559 --> 01:10:34.366 [SPEAKER_00]: But I think they've done what they did with him is done in a way to still make him look like a credible wrestler, even in spite of those defeats. 01:10:34.486 --> 01:10:41.132 [SPEAKER_00]: And make it seem meaningful in the eyes of the casual New Japan fan, because, you know, Farley isn't. 01:10:41.152 --> 01:10:44.676 [SPEAKER_00]: I can't believe it's been talking about this. 01:10:44.756 --> 01:10:46.637 [SPEAKER_00]: I've really got to be in my bonnet about this game. 01:10:47.198 --> 01:11:00.121 [SPEAKER_00]: vision is I'm going on with our wolf and I know I have got the the soul unpopular opinion in the whole family, but I'm convinced that I'm right David And I don't I don't I don't accept that that that right it was a negative yeah, anyway I'm gonna be fun. 01:11:00.701 --> 01:11:15.565 [SPEAKER_00]: Second match was Jake Lee defeating Schinger to Caggy 10 minutes 14 seconds facebreak shot Surprisingly good here Jake Lee had his own hope he's gonna have on for the full tour probably not, but this was pretty good wasn't it the joke was 01:11:18.005 --> 01:11:21.506 [SPEAKER_02]: Nobody could believe the performance he put on, right? 01:11:22.226 --> 01:11:24.747 [SPEAKER_02]: No, but like we were shocked. 01:11:25.427 --> 01:11:26.988 [SPEAKER_02]: And it was a nice mix. 01:11:27.208 --> 01:11:37.450 [SPEAKER_02]: It was a mix of, hey, he's doing, he's actually taking bumps and a lot of them and some of them were pretty, pretty heavy. 01:11:39.071 --> 01:11:42.572 [SPEAKER_02]: And throwing in a little bit of nice, little comedic timing, right? 01:11:43.152 --> 01:11:44.052 [SPEAKER_02]: like it was there. 01:11:45.273 --> 01:11:46.173 [SPEAKER_02]: People were digging it. 01:11:46.694 --> 01:11:51.476 [SPEAKER_02]: And again, the people that like him being silly got enough silliness. 01:11:51.956 --> 01:11:57.178 [SPEAKER_02]: But the people that were hoping and praying that somehow he would find another gear got it. 01:11:58.339 --> 01:12:01.140 [SPEAKER_02]: And you know, the joke in the in the sweets were, 01:12:02.180 --> 01:12:22.813 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, talking me on night six, you know, if he still got that kind of mojo going, but at least for night one, when everyone seemed to have a little bit of a chip on their shoulder, they went out there and did everything they could to make their 10 minutes or however long they had count. 01:12:23.533 --> 01:12:31.525 [SPEAKER_02]: And I thought Jake Lee did an outstanding job and quite frankly, I thought it was one of his best new Japan processing performances. 01:12:32.206 --> 01:12:38.274 [SPEAKER_02]: It really, truly was like the entire package of it from everything. 01:12:38.795 --> 01:12:51.761 [SPEAKER_02]: And again, the bar I think was a little low, I don't think many people were sitting there thinking, okay, I need to be on the edge of my seat and make sure that I got my t-shirt and my beer before Jake Lee comes out. 01:12:52.422 --> 01:12:58.284 [SPEAKER_02]: But he got went out there and did what he could physically and smart 01:13:04.644 --> 01:13:05.084 [SPEAKER_02]: very good. 01:13:05.925 --> 01:13:14.228 [SPEAKER_02]: Shingo, of course, we shingo doing what he does best, hitting hard, fast paste, and the people love them. 01:13:15.248 --> 01:13:25.873 [SPEAKER_02]: Look, we love to sit here and talk about how American fans in a lot of cases love five years ago, or six years ago, or 10 years ago. 01:13:27.493 --> 01:13:28.434 [SPEAKER_02]: That's a long time. 01:13:29.390 --> 01:13:33.613 [SPEAKER_02]: they still are there for fucking shingo. 01:13:34.033 --> 01:13:46.642 [SPEAKER_02]: And here's the thing, it's not like, okay, has he taken a step back just because of age and, and, and, you know, getting dinged up and there's a lot of mileage on him, of course. 01:13:47.042 --> 01:13:48.063 [SPEAKER_02]: He could still fucking go. 01:13:48.463 --> 01:13:52.906 [SPEAKER_02]: And I thought this match was was very good and much better than I even expect. 01:13:54.897 --> 01:14:05.185 [SPEAKER_00]: and the third match was Oscar Diffin, right now, it's at 9-8-8-2-7, so I might miss sleeper, so another debut G-1 win here from Oscar, how did he come across? 01:14:05.645 --> 01:14:08.127 [SPEAKER_02]: I, like, there's nothing like seeing him live. 01:14:08.907 --> 01:14:19.815 [SPEAKER_02]: I will say that, like the dude, I don't even think it comes across on television and through the TV, how massive this guy is. 01:14:19.976 --> 01:14:23.418 [SPEAKER_02]: And I don't mean like thick, but he is a tall mother fucker. 01:14:25.827 --> 01:14:29.748 [SPEAKER_02]: It did start out with, as we'll do it, what do you call it, I'll just my leg. 01:14:30.229 --> 01:14:32.709 [SPEAKER_02]: Hey, they did do that. 01:14:32.890 --> 01:14:35.170 [SPEAKER_02]: And trust me, I did sit back on my chair and leg up. 01:14:35.650 --> 01:14:36.631 [SPEAKER_02]: We'll joke all that one. 01:14:36.751 --> 01:14:41.152 [SPEAKER_02]: Here it is, big guy taking on a little guy and a little guy's going to chop down the tray. 01:14:42.713 --> 01:14:46.294 [SPEAKER_02]: But they found their way to make even that interesting and fun and compelling. 01:14:47.535 --> 01:14:48.015 [SPEAKER_02]: The crowd, 01:14:48.695 --> 01:14:49.875 [SPEAKER_02]: didn't want any part of Ren. 01:14:50.596 --> 01:14:53.496 [SPEAKER_02]: And it wasn't a disrespect, Ren, you stink. 01:14:53.997 --> 01:15:03.899 [SPEAKER_02]: It was more of Ren, you're a heel and we want anyone else to win other than you because you fuck around too much with the rules. 01:15:04.880 --> 01:15:12.002 [SPEAKER_02]: They were house-oop-oop-oop-oop-oop-oop-oop-oop-oop-oop-oop-oop-oop-oop-oop-oop-oop-oop-oop-oop-oop-oop-oop-oop-oop-oop-oop-oop-oop-oop-oop-oop-oop-oop-oop-oop-oop-oop-oop-oop-oop-oop-oop-oop-oop-oop-oop-oop-oop-oop-oop-oop-oop-oop-oop- 01:15:13.377 --> 01:15:21.864 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, for years now, to elicit that response, that kind of response, you know, not going to hear that at Corken Hall. 01:15:21.984 --> 01:15:23.245 [SPEAKER_02]: You're going to hear that in Chicago. 01:15:24.186 --> 01:15:28.970 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, I thought he did Oscar did. 01:15:30.388 --> 01:15:47.350 [SPEAKER_02]: very well for for for I think a lot of people like were just wanting to see how they did in a singles environment given you know 10 15 minutes to go out there and put on a great match. 01:15:48.055 --> 01:15:51.097 [SPEAKER_02]: Now, was this like the greatest match on Earth? 01:15:51.417 --> 01:16:12.172 [SPEAKER_02]: No, but I think it did show that even after this tag team is dead and buried, that there's something there, like there's something there, in all cases, they, I think they worked a good big man's match. 01:16:13.033 --> 01:16:23.268 [SPEAKER_02]: Big man versus little man match and still made it compelling and interesting without doing every single normal trope that you would do in a match like that. 01:16:25.548 --> 01:16:27.589 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm very bullish about Oscar. 01:16:27.629 --> 01:16:29.831 [SPEAKER_00]: I think there's a tremendous amount of upside to him. 01:16:29.871 --> 01:16:38.035 [SPEAKER_00]: And it's obviously got to go through this period now where he's establishing himself as a singles wrestler because he's obviously been in tight spots up to this point. 01:16:38.055 --> 01:16:41.537 [SPEAKER_00]: But again, like getting a win over Rennery during your debut, you won't much. 01:16:42.278 --> 01:16:48.802 [SPEAKER_00]: Showed me that the company had taken this guy seriously because I wouldn't have been shocked to see him go like, 01:16:49.682 --> 01:16:50.922 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, one and eight or something. 01:16:50.942 --> 01:16:51.102 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 01:16:51.122 --> 01:16:51.842 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, or even, yeah. 01:16:51.943 --> 01:17:10.306 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no, because like I said, all the traditional conventional and huge bandbook, he would have had him at that point, but it's just quite exciting to see that they've pulled their finger out and they understand the assignment, and they're like, right, we've got a big crop of talented young guys here, and let's try and get multiple people established at the same time. 01:17:10.386 --> 01:17:12.207 [SPEAKER_00]: So I was just infused. 01:17:13.367 --> 01:17:22.871 [SPEAKER_00]: as much by the booking, as I was by the performance, for both of us, because RIMM was good as well, he played his part and made Oscar look like a monster, so yeah, it was good stuff. 01:17:23.351 --> 01:17:32.475 [SPEAKER_00]: A fourth match then was Uto Ice to Fing Greta Khan by 11 minutes, 11 seconds, by Kruella. 01:17:32.555 --> 01:17:38.097 [SPEAKER_02]: The crowd loved Uto Ice, like he had the crowd, no doubt. 01:17:39.298 --> 01:17:41.719 [SPEAKER_02]: I think people were happy to see Okan, 01:17:42.987 --> 01:17:57.391 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, and I think O'Conn was, it's weird because, there are times where I think he would rather be somewhere else, than in a pro wrestling right. 01:17:57.992 --> 01:18:03.773 [SPEAKER_02]: And then there are times that he feels like, okay, he's motivated. 01:18:04.013 --> 01:18:08.415 [SPEAKER_02]: He's, you know, he's got a bug up his ass and, you know, something is making him, 01:18:09.465 --> 01:18:13.190 [SPEAKER_02]: do stuff that quite honestly, it doesn't feel like him going to the motions. 01:18:14.111 --> 01:18:25.885 [SPEAKER_02]: I will give him credit here in this end say that he was a willing combatant to help you to ice get over even more. 01:18:29.549 --> 01:18:34.632 [SPEAKER_02]: The crowd really, they have something with him, with you to ice. 01:18:34.952 --> 01:18:36.653 [SPEAKER_02]: They really do. 01:18:37.114 --> 01:18:38.895 [SPEAKER_02]: What that might look like in the future? 01:18:39.075 --> 01:18:39.735 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know. 01:18:40.415 --> 01:18:45.038 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not going to sit here and tell you that he's future world champion material. 01:18:45.979 --> 01:18:55.705 [SPEAKER_02]: But, like, anybody on this show, it felt like he was 01:18:58.935 --> 01:19:11.660 [SPEAKER_02]: like an over-the-top gimmick mind you that he is that seems perfectly comfortable slotted in on a pro wrestling show that didn't seem like it was an over-the-top. 01:19:12.415 --> 01:19:12.695 [SPEAKER_02]: gimmick. 01:19:13.015 --> 01:19:13.816 [SPEAKER_02]: Does that make any sense? 01:19:13.836 --> 01:19:14.537 [SPEAKER_00]: It sounds like him. 01:19:15.017 --> 01:19:15.958 [SPEAKER_02]: The fans like him. 01:19:15.998 --> 01:19:20.941 [SPEAKER_02]: Number one, two, everything that he does elicits a reaction. 01:19:21.482 --> 01:19:25.304 [SPEAKER_02]: Three, he's comfortable in his own skin. 01:19:26.145 --> 01:19:30.508 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, he's not working a gimmick where it's like, oh, you know, he's trying to make it work. 01:19:31.169 --> 01:19:32.690 [SPEAKER_02]: He is that, you know? 01:19:33.070 --> 01:19:36.593 [SPEAKER_02]: And even if he's not, he's doing an outstanding job folding everyone. 01:19:37.133 --> 01:19:38.994 [SPEAKER_02]: because he owns it. 01:19:39.495 --> 01:19:45.899 [SPEAKER_02]: And I truly believe it, least in this crowd, they loved him, loved him. 01:19:47.800 --> 01:19:52.042 [SPEAKER_02]: O'Con, look, I don't know what you're gonna do. 01:19:52.083 --> 01:19:57.606 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm curious to hear what best G1 performance in the past five years has to say. 01:19:59.027 --> 01:19:59.567 [SPEAKER_02]: I really am. 01:20:01.068 --> 01:20:02.809 [SPEAKER_02]: I can't stop thinking. 01:20:02.949 --> 01:20:04.250 [SPEAKER_02]: He's living right in front of my head. 01:20:06.580 --> 01:20:07.941 [SPEAKER_02]: which good for you, good job. 01:20:08.421 --> 01:20:10.041 [SPEAKER_02]: You did it, congratulations. 01:20:11.722 --> 01:20:15.463 [SPEAKER_02]: That said, good match, solid match. 01:20:16.624 --> 01:20:19.345 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, Khan, I don't know what we do at this point. 01:20:20.513 --> 01:20:25.915 [SPEAKER_00]: Do you think industry won there's a risk of you to ice getting exposed? 01:20:26.035 --> 01:20:43.943 [SPEAKER_00]: Now, I'm not saying that he is a complete fraud and not a good wrestler, but he's obviously excelled in his role as being like a hot tag guy in these big tornado tag, exciting matches where his opponents are flying around the ring and making him look great and he's been the focus 01:20:44.583 --> 01:20:45.644 [SPEAKER_00]: of all the tag matches. 01:20:45.704 --> 01:20:51.329 [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's fair to say that and just everyone has been working over time to make him look like a star. 01:20:52.190 --> 01:21:04.141 [SPEAKER_00]: Whereas this is a different assignment entirely and I don't, whilst I love his charisma and energy, the gimmick, everything and I think he takes a lot of the boxes, he's just got good, great instincts as a pro wrestler. 01:21:05.150 --> 01:21:13.960 [SPEAKER_00]: The bell to bell stuff, I'm not sure how good he is, especially when compared to a lot of his peers, a lot of other guys in this tournament. 01:21:13.980 --> 01:21:21.067 [SPEAKER_00]: So do you share my slight worries that he might get found out a bit in terms of being perhaps lacking between the bells? 01:21:24.903 --> 01:21:30.610 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but I think I would hold some reservations with a lot of guys. 01:21:30.950 --> 01:21:32.792 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think that's what's making things exciting. 01:21:33.152 --> 01:21:38.118 [SPEAKER_02]: Like I do want to see how he manages with guys that don't have a ton of experience. 01:21:38.518 --> 01:21:40.741 [SPEAKER_02]: And what those matches will look like. 01:21:40.821 --> 01:21:43.684 [SPEAKER_02]: And even guys, you know, just in a one-on-one environment, 01:21:44.485 --> 01:21:47.889 [SPEAKER_02]: with people that, you know, he's never wrestled before in a ring. 01:21:48.229 --> 01:21:51.192 [SPEAKER_02]: And maybe, you know, a multi-man tag match that they've had some interactions. 01:21:51.253 --> 01:21:54.696 [SPEAKER_02]: But, you know, there's a big difference between that and going 15 minutes. 01:21:55.617 --> 01:21:55.858 [SPEAKER_02]: So, 01:21:57.621 --> 01:21:58.501 [SPEAKER_02]: I, let's put it this way. 01:21:58.561 --> 01:22:14.967 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think the gimmick itself is limiting him, like I don't think he's going to be handcuffed into doing shit that, you know, feels awkward or whatever, like I feel like that allows him to, his gimmick allows him to explore a lot of different. 01:22:15.734 --> 01:22:17.116 [SPEAKER_02]: methods and means. 01:22:17.556 --> 01:22:19.358 [SPEAKER_02]: That maybe we haven't seen yet. 01:22:20.880 --> 01:22:21.501 [SPEAKER_02]: So I don't know. 01:22:22.442 --> 01:22:23.904 [SPEAKER_02]: He's never been put in that environment. 01:22:23.964 --> 01:22:24.785 [SPEAKER_02]: Am I worried about it? 01:22:25.446 --> 01:22:28.029 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, but I'm worried about that with everyone. 01:22:28.289 --> 01:22:32.574 [SPEAKER_02]: When they're put in situations where it's okay, it's you and another person. 01:22:33.387 --> 01:22:38.710 [SPEAKER_02]: time to shine, do I have trust that he has that in him? 01:22:39.190 --> 01:22:39.450 [SPEAKER_02]: I do. 01:22:40.031 --> 01:22:41.491 [SPEAKER_02]: I trust in that until I see otherwise. 01:22:43.072 --> 01:22:49.656 [SPEAKER_02]: And we're going to say, man, this is what the excitement part for me anyway of this G1 specifically is, is okay. 01:22:50.878 --> 01:23:02.643 [SPEAKER_02]: you now today you have Shingo tomorrow you have whomever, you know, it's that's the excitement of okay what are you going to do night six against Sanada? 01:23:02.663 --> 01:23:04.864 [SPEAKER_02]: How are you going to make that work? 01:23:04.904 --> 01:23:05.884 [SPEAKER_02]: That's what I find interesting. 01:23:07.163 --> 01:23:11.525 [SPEAKER_00]: To be fair, he's probably got his worst opponent out of the way early here. 01:23:12.325 --> 01:23:15.486 [SPEAKER_00]: We have seen some good stuff in English as well. 01:23:15.506 --> 01:23:16.787 [SPEAKER_00]: Who sees you rest of the data? 01:23:16.847 --> 01:23:19.708 [SPEAKER_00]: I think you're calling him, having a really good match with you at the end of the day. 01:23:19.908 --> 01:23:20.968 [SPEAKER_00]: I think I'll be fine, actually. 01:23:20.988 --> 01:23:24.509 [SPEAKER_00]: I think I'm perhaps over indexing this match against the guy. 01:23:24.549 --> 01:23:25.930 [SPEAKER_00]: You start clearly checked out. 01:23:26.730 --> 01:23:31.792 [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, it'll be interesting just to see to really sort of test the range that Utah Ice has as a 01:23:34.233 --> 01:23:37.237 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's say, excited rather than, what are you there? 01:23:37.297 --> 01:23:42.463 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, fifth match, then we had Zach Saber Jr. defeating Shots, who were no 60 minutes 10 seconds fire, Zach Driver. 01:23:42.943 --> 01:23:43.384 [SPEAKER_00]: Great match. 01:23:44.325 --> 01:23:44.785 [SPEAKER_00]: Great match. 01:23:45.726 --> 01:23:46.527 [SPEAKER_02]: Really was fun. 01:23:48.244 --> 01:24:02.372 [SPEAKER_02]: First, Zack, you know, he's gotten all the flowers as it is, but talking about a guy that people were just jacked up to say, like, like, people felt, look, I sit here and I do hand wave a lot, the idea of, oh, they're on TV, what would he fucking do? 01:24:02.892 --> 01:24:11.877 [SPEAKER_02]: It's important because the people that are on TV in the States probably got some of the louder applause and cheers. 01:24:12.177 --> 01:24:16.480 [SPEAKER_02]: Now, again, Zack has spent years in New Japan. 01:24:16.840 --> 01:24:18.562 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he's a former world champion. 01:24:18.742 --> 01:24:20.183 [SPEAKER_02]: He's a former G1 winner. 01:24:21.784 --> 01:24:24.146 [SPEAKER_02]: He's, you know, New Japan Cup. 01:24:25.127 --> 01:24:30.692 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, so he has a resume for people to know who he is and be excited to see him. 01:24:30.732 --> 01:24:34.074 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think a lot from from an American standpoint, 01:24:34.873 --> 01:24:39.976 [SPEAKER_02]: There is, there is a absolute connection with him just being a total fucking prick. 01:24:40.496 --> 01:24:42.157 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, people love that. 01:24:42.357 --> 01:24:50.682 [SPEAKER_02]: It's like, and, and, especially in intelligent prick, like people can dig that. 01:24:53.763 --> 01:24:54.123 [SPEAKER_02]: Show to him. 01:24:56.585 --> 01:24:57.205 [SPEAKER_02]: He's getting there. 01:24:58.146 --> 01:25:00.667 [SPEAKER_02]: And, and, you know, at Armita, 01:25:01.545 --> 01:25:07.851 [SPEAKER_02]: There were lots of people who were on that show to win, show to winning this tournament. 01:25:09.192 --> 01:25:16.839 [SPEAKER_02]: I think people in the arena were, it wasn't a bad reception at all. 01:25:17.760 --> 01:25:19.441 [SPEAKER_02]: It was a very good reception. 01:25:22.524 --> 01:25:24.506 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think, again, him losing. 01:25:26.105 --> 01:25:29.086 [SPEAKER_02]: kind of reinforces the fact that he's going on. 01:25:29.106 --> 01:25:34.948 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, the New Japan loves the idea of, okay, people that you may not expect get, you know, wins in the beginning. 01:25:35.468 --> 01:25:45.371 [SPEAKER_02]: And then people need to have the struggle story of losing in the beginning and then finding ways to fight back and get in the mix in the finals and so forth. 01:25:46.071 --> 01:25:47.671 [SPEAKER_02]: Now, I thought this match was outstanding. 01:25:48.532 --> 01:25:51.112 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, the crowd was into it. 01:25:55.430 --> 01:25:57.728 [SPEAKER_02]: One thing that that was really cool was 01:25:59.825 --> 01:26:02.806 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think people necessarily pick sides. 01:26:02.846 --> 01:26:16.829 [SPEAKER_02]: They cheered maybe a little bit louder for people in their entrances, but as matches got going, they were pulling for underdogs, or they were pulling for guys to kick out and continue fighting. 01:26:16.889 --> 01:26:28.272 [SPEAKER_02]: They were cheering for maybe the guy that they might not have been cheering for loudly during the entrances, which was nice. 01:26:30.510 --> 01:26:50.899 [SPEAKER_02]: Showtas you're guy and I think that each and every one of these matches and each and every one of these bigger shows or he's putting things together and things are like this is a very different show to Umano on this Chicago show than even a year ago. 01:26:52.160 --> 01:27:00.004 [SPEAKER_02]: And imagine taking this one, and two years ago, like the growth is substantial. 01:27:01.004 --> 01:27:05.987 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think that it's coming together and starting to click for him. 01:27:06.467 --> 01:27:13.250 [SPEAKER_02]: And being in the ring with incredibly talented pro wrestlers help, but it's coming together. 01:27:13.990 --> 01:27:21.254 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think people are recognizing that and maybe slower than what the company had expected. 01:27:21.874 --> 01:27:48.921 [SPEAKER_02]: But people are coming around to him and if a yankoid audience of 4,000 in Chicago is any indication that this is the case, watch this and hopefully the crowd is mic'd properly because people were with him and that I think it was one of the more important thing and the fact that when that match is over people are looking at each other like okay that was fucking great that was 01:27:52.804 --> 01:27:58.590 [SPEAKER_02]: It's coming, it's coming and it may have felt slow in the beginning. 01:27:58.871 --> 01:28:03.215 [SPEAKER_02]: It's coming at a rapid pace right now. 01:28:03.275 --> 01:28:06.319 [SPEAKER_00]: Joel from 18 months ago says, yeah. 01:28:07.548 --> 01:28:07.908 [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you. 01:28:08.389 --> 01:28:08.969 [SPEAKER_00]: Welcome, booze. 01:28:09.529 --> 01:28:10.130 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 01:28:10.170 --> 01:28:10.990 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, all right. 01:28:11.191 --> 01:28:31.365 [SPEAKER_02]: Listen, we all know that you are the ground breaker and the four, you know, you're the one driving the train and people hop on the train and I, obviously, the first to admit there have been plenty of times where you've been driving a train and I've been running catching the doors with my fingertips, trying it open, trying to get in on the train. 01:28:32.746 --> 01:28:33.727 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 01:28:33.807 --> 01:28:34.247 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm on board. 01:28:35.750 --> 01:28:37.852 [SPEAKER_00]: Sixth match was, you're lucky got out of the thing. 01:28:37.872 --> 01:28:45.080 [SPEAKER_00]: So now that at 12 minutes, four seconds, I don't have a question on Twitter from Dr. Larry says who had the best outfit at his show. 01:28:45.400 --> 01:28:46.401 [SPEAKER_02]: It's not even close. 01:28:46.521 --> 01:28:47.122 [SPEAKER_02]: That in close. 01:28:48.068 --> 01:29:13.900 [SPEAKER_02]: we popped, we absolutely popped and uh, uh, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, 01:29:14.883 --> 01:29:30.822 [SPEAKER_02]: The best way to describe it is a some brownish, but like in gold sequin, it was enormous and unbelievably synata, and it people were just couldn't get enough of it. 01:29:34.103 --> 01:29:36.265 [SPEAKER_02]: We thought, well, that's where it ends. 01:29:36.665 --> 01:29:41.689 [SPEAKER_02]: All right, that's where the bell rings and maybe we, maybe that's the bathroom break. 01:29:41.889 --> 01:29:47.253 [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe this is, go get another beer or a soda pop, whatever you want, right? 01:29:48.934 --> 01:30:01.164 [SPEAKER_02]: Joel Sinata, probably working hurt, probably, you know, not one inch of percent physically there, 01:30:02.527 --> 01:30:04.631 [SPEAKER_02]: went out there and did shit. 01:30:05.392 --> 01:30:08.938 [SPEAKER_02]: Like Joel, what was the 12 minutes did they go? 01:30:09.518 --> 01:30:09.939 [SPEAKER_02]: Baby 15. 01:30:11.695 --> 01:30:16.257 [SPEAKER_02]: How many, how many off the top rope flips, moon salt? 01:30:17.898 --> 01:30:21.540 [SPEAKER_02]: Just need damaging things that he do in this match. 01:30:21.940 --> 01:30:23.821 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, we were just like, what the fuck is he doing? 01:30:24.242 --> 01:30:28.104 [SPEAKER_02]: He took bumps, it's all the man took bumps. 01:30:28.624 --> 01:30:32.926 [SPEAKER_02]: He did one bump, was he like, on the apron and the outside, we were just like, what the fuck? 01:30:35.346 --> 01:30:35.726 [SPEAKER_00]: No clue. 01:30:35.746 --> 01:30:35.906 [SPEAKER_00]: No clue. 01:30:35.926 --> 01:30:36.207 [SPEAKER_00]: No clue. 01:30:36.287 --> 01:30:36.527 [SPEAKER_00]: No clue. 01:30:36.547 --> 01:30:36.747 [SPEAKER_00]: No clue. 01:30:36.767 --> 01:30:37.127 [SPEAKER_00]: No clue. 01:30:37.207 --> 01:30:37.548 [SPEAKER_00]: No clue. 01:30:37.568 --> 01:30:37.968 [SPEAKER_00]: No clue. 01:30:38.028 --> 01:30:38.668 [SPEAKER_00]: No clue. 01:30:38.708 --> 01:30:38.948 [SPEAKER_00]: No clue. 01:30:38.969 --> 01:30:39.249 [SPEAKER_00]: No clue. 01:30:39.269 --> 01:30:39.529 [SPEAKER_00]: No clue. 01:30:39.549 --> 01:30:39.829 [SPEAKER_00]: No clue. 01:30:39.849 --> 01:30:40.049 [SPEAKER_00]: No clue. 01:30:40.069 --> 01:30:40.369 [SPEAKER_00]: No clue. 01:30:40.389 --> 01:30:40.590 [SPEAKER_00]: No clue. 01:30:40.870 --> 01:30:41.390 [SPEAKER_02]: No clue. 01:30:41.590 --> 01:30:42.311 [SPEAKER_02]: No clue. 01:30:42.331 --> 01:30:42.611 [SPEAKER_02]: No clue. 01:30:55.150 --> 01:31:02.313 [SPEAKER_02]: After this show, there were a couple of people that stood out to me and, you know, couple of them later on in the show, we'll talk about. 01:31:03.014 --> 01:31:05.015 [SPEAKER_02]: But I threw flowers. 01:31:05.035 --> 01:31:21.242 [SPEAKER_02]: My instant reaction was throwing flowers at a guy's like, Jake Lee and Sonata, where you went in expecting nothing and you got delivered some really good fucking shit, really good shit, like Sonata trying 01:31:24.648 --> 01:31:28.531 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, motivated, ship on children, whatever the fuck you want to call it. 01:31:29.051 --> 01:31:35.795 [SPEAKER_02]: Like it was refreshing that, and I can't say, like, nobody deserves nothing. 01:31:35.815 --> 01:31:36.416 [SPEAKER_02]: Don't give me wrong. 01:31:36.876 --> 01:31:39.758 [SPEAKER_02]: But he could have easily phoned that fucking thing in. 01:31:40.999 --> 01:31:43.500 [SPEAKER_02]: Of all night, he could have phoned it and he didn't. 01:31:44.081 --> 01:31:48.604 [SPEAKER_02]: And I got to tip my yellow sequined hat that I had to buy. 01:31:49.104 --> 01:31:49.885 [SPEAKER_02]: I got tailor made. 01:31:50.085 --> 01:31:52.386 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm wearing in the office whenever I go in. 01:31:55.413 --> 01:32:02.301 [SPEAKER_02]: he went out there and did his best and that was appreciated. 01:32:02.461 --> 01:32:03.022 [SPEAKER_02]: We loved it. 01:32:03.382 --> 01:32:03.883 [SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely. 01:32:05.725 --> 01:32:10.570 [SPEAKER_00]: Seven nights, kind of new meant to think, you're at where we're at 15 minutes, 40 seconds, make what you. 01:32:11.191 --> 01:32:11.491 [SPEAKER_02]: Awesome. 01:32:12.172 --> 01:32:14.634 [SPEAKER_02]: It's just really calm, new meant. 01:32:15.958 --> 01:32:17.379 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't I don't understand people. 01:32:17.819 --> 01:32:40.253 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't understand people how the heat that people can just hand away of him how people can dismiss him like he truly is of talented fucking pro wrestler that we have under our banner like fantastic you yeah once again a star in the making 01:32:43.025 --> 01:32:44.667 [SPEAKER_02]: I really loved this match. 01:32:45.228 --> 01:33:01.563 [SPEAKER_02]: This had elements of Japanese hard-hitting, pro wrestling plus heel face, like, over heel, over baby face, 01:33:02.897 --> 01:33:06.158 [SPEAKER_02]: elements that were in there and intertwined perfectly. 01:33:08.159 --> 01:33:09.740 [SPEAKER_02]: Enough grit and sandpaper. 01:33:10.260 --> 01:33:11.300 [SPEAKER_02]: That fucking guy. 01:33:11.320 --> 01:33:13.461 [SPEAKER_02]: We need to did that dive into the chairs. 01:33:14.742 --> 01:33:18.003 [SPEAKER_02]: Again, this is a guy that's, he's selling an arm injury. 01:33:18.483 --> 01:33:23.825 [SPEAKER_02]: He's, you know, apparently banged up pretty, these hurting. 01:33:24.486 --> 01:33:26.847 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, he's feeling it. 01:33:26.967 --> 01:33:29.367 [SPEAKER_02]: Doing crazy shit like that and putting his body on the line. 01:33:32.552 --> 01:33:46.623 [SPEAKER_02]: That brought everybody, well, you can see it coming and we're like, he's gonna sprint and fucking, then there he goes outside the ring and into just a pile of fucking chairs that if I'm not mistaken, those chairs were all into twine together. 01:33:47.184 --> 01:33:50.626 [SPEAKER_02]: Like they weren't regular folding chairs, they were kind of like zip tied together. 01:33:51.187 --> 01:33:53.669 [SPEAKER_02]: So there was not a lot of wiggle room on those. 01:33:53.709 --> 01:33:57.452 [SPEAKER_02]: I could be wrong, but it looked like he hit fucking hard. 01:33:58.383 --> 01:34:02.865 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, and again, the match itself, I thought was, was excellent, really fucking fantastic. 01:34:03.686 --> 01:34:24.197 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, uh, two talented, one talented guy in Kalimnum and who is underappreciated and as a top guy that people want a hand wave, but are idiots if they, if they do, and then you have a guy who, again, super talented, 01:34:24.877 --> 01:34:38.650 [SPEAKER_02]: who's coming into his own and doing the hardest thing in progressing there is to do and being an ultra-baby face and still having credibility and not looking hokey or corny or what what have you. 01:34:38.950 --> 01:34:45.496 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean it was funny because I was sitting next to Andrew Rich, the whole show and I was saying, you know, I'm gonna say something really dumb here. 01:34:46.357 --> 01:34:48.759 [SPEAKER_02]: which is part of the course, but I'm gonna say something really dumb. 01:34:49.379 --> 01:35:06.889 [SPEAKER_02]: I loved what do they call it, his color way, like his, the trunks and the, and it was like, he looked like a fucking icy, looked great, I loved it, I loved the colors, on the trunks and the outfit, I loved it, but the match itself was fucking great. 01:35:08.270 --> 01:35:11.272 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean what more I can't go show over this match, you're hard enough. 01:35:12.548 --> 01:35:13.689 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, absolutely loved it as well. 01:35:13.709 --> 01:35:15.972 [SPEAKER_00]: And I just like the different levels that the guys took it to you. 01:35:15.992 --> 01:35:18.674 [SPEAKER_00]: Like we got angry pissed off you in this one. 01:35:19.155 --> 01:35:20.977 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, those are the best kind of human matches. 01:35:21.017 --> 01:35:28.204 [SPEAKER_00]: Like he was he was hot and fired up and just really gone after counting human quite a sort of quite a sadistic way. 01:35:28.224 --> 01:35:29.586 [SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, like that. 01:35:29.606 --> 01:35:32.228 [SPEAKER_00]: I like the way that these guys can go to a different gear. 01:35:32.248 --> 01:35:33.670 [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, more of that please from 01:35:34.330 --> 01:35:53.363 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I remember eight match was do you know what I were doing on a bolt in 13 minutes 20 seconds via arc clutch I saw a lot of people actually raven about this match I thought it ended quite abruptly when I felt it had more time and a few more gears to get through what did you think? 01:35:54.112 --> 01:36:07.475 [SPEAKER_02]: It did, it was a lot of suplexes, a lot of hard hitting stuff and then a tap out that was super quick, which kind of was shocking and jarring, because I don't think that anyone was ready for it. 01:36:07.715 --> 01:36:09.675 [SPEAKER_02]: Like if you blinked your eye, you missed it. 01:36:10.416 --> 01:36:15.817 [SPEAKER_02]: And trust me, there were people all around us that looked up and looked like, what happened? 01:36:18.668 --> 01:36:30.118 [SPEAKER_02]: They probably did have another gear and again, I think a lot of people going into this match were like if there was a match on on the show people were kind of like okay, let's let's see what we have. 01:36:32.870 --> 01:36:40.092 [SPEAKER_02]: To me, look, you knew what you're getting in this match in the sense of heart-hitting, super-exas, et cetera, blah, blah, blah. 01:36:40.252 --> 01:36:43.934 [SPEAKER_02]: So for me to sit here and say, I would love to see a little bit more range. 01:36:44.774 --> 01:36:49.315 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, maybe I would fall on deaf ears. 01:36:50.316 --> 01:36:51.816 [SPEAKER_02]: I would have liked to see the little bit more range. 01:36:52.937 --> 01:36:53.677 [SPEAKER_02]: That said, 01:36:55.343 --> 01:36:56.584 [SPEAKER_02]: I loved the finish. 01:36:57.185 --> 01:37:01.610 [SPEAKER_02]: I loved the fact that we could end this thing at any moment. 01:37:01.910 --> 01:37:06.334 [SPEAKER_02]: And if we're being, if we're taking this seriously, yeah, of course. 01:37:06.434 --> 01:37:08.456 [SPEAKER_02]: You get caught in an arm bar. 01:37:10.078 --> 01:37:21.441 [SPEAKER_02]: Or, you know, an arm submission, and you feel that either I have to tap or I'm going to lose my arm and I'm out for the rest of the fucking tour. 01:37:22.141 --> 01:37:22.641 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm tapping. 01:37:23.121 --> 01:37:24.202 [SPEAKER_02]: And that's exactly what happened. 01:37:24.462 --> 01:37:25.182 [SPEAKER_02]: He got caught. 01:37:25.562 --> 01:37:28.963 [SPEAKER_02]: He made a rookie mistake and wasn't protecting himself. 01:37:30.305 --> 01:37:53.186 [SPEAKER_02]: locked up locked in and I got no other choice but the tap and it happened super quick and there wasn't no closing stretch and be that we're all accustomed to and then we're all like conditioned to be like okay well you know I guess we're getting into the brass tax of the fucking nope we this is it we're done he got caught and you know we're done 01:37:54.167 --> 01:38:05.617 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, so that was refreshing like you don't need to have every match have the same Formulatic we need to kick out of 900 finishing nope 01:38:07.755 --> 01:38:10.517 [SPEAKER_02]: Got caught tapping out because I need to fight another day. 01:38:10.857 --> 01:38:11.978 [SPEAKER_02]: I love that, love it. 01:38:12.279 --> 01:38:13.259 [SPEAKER_02]: Did they have another gear? 01:38:13.380 --> 01:38:22.647 [SPEAKER_02]: I think they did, but I'm okay, if they said, okay, this is the finish, this is what we're gonna go with and it's just gonna come out of fucking memory. 01:38:22.787 --> 01:38:23.368 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm good with that. 01:38:23.448 --> 01:38:24.548 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm really happy with that. 01:38:25.990 --> 01:38:31.494 [SPEAKER_00]: And then the main event, you know, to see G2, G2, G2, G2, G2, G2, G2, 20 minutes, 50 seconds, why have fire blaster? 01:38:33.215 --> 01:38:33.436 [SPEAKER_02]: Look. 01:38:35.078 --> 01:38:40.405 [SPEAKER_02]: this deliver as a main event, G1 opening night. 01:38:41.266 --> 01:38:46.932 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think there was a person who left that arena that was disappointed in any fashion of this match. 01:38:47.865 --> 01:38:58.090 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, the crowd was pumped and again, we've, we, you know, we, we had two hours of wrestling on the rebel and it was nonstop. 01:38:58.210 --> 01:38:59.630 [SPEAKER_02]: There were, there was no intermission. 01:39:00.011 --> 01:39:09.595 [SPEAKER_02]: They just went and went and went and went and then they finished with this in a match that had everything that you could want in pro wrestling. 01:39:17.038 --> 01:39:26.293 [SPEAKER_02]: of a main event of the world champion going against the star of the show in a lot of people's eyes. 01:39:27.530 --> 01:39:28.951 [SPEAKER_02]: and they went out there and they delivered. 01:39:29.492 --> 01:39:37.420 [SPEAKER_02]: Let's anyone think that Yota Suji is not the guy in this company and can't have great matches. 01:39:37.920 --> 01:39:46.529 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I'm going to hand you this match on a silver fucking platter and say, please watch because he delivered once again. 01:39:46.549 --> 01:39:49.592 [SPEAKER_02]: He delivered and I truly believe. 01:39:50.578 --> 01:40:00.347 [SPEAKER_02]: that the success of this show was dependent upon him, not only looking like a star, but being a star. 01:40:00.927 --> 01:40:05.231 [SPEAKER_02]: And in the fans eyes in that building, it felt like he was a star. 01:40:05.631 --> 01:40:07.753 [SPEAKER_02]: It wasn't like we were building to a star. 01:40:07.933 --> 01:40:09.775 [SPEAKER_02]: It was like he was a star. 01:40:10.035 --> 01:40:11.557 [SPEAKER_02]: Now, again, you can argue that 01:40:13.359 --> 01:40:31.964 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, your AEW counterpart would have, you know, more cheers, probably did, would have more recognition, maybe debatable, but when he, when all was said and done, that only did he start the match feeling like a star. 01:40:32.364 --> 01:40:35.165 [SPEAKER_02]: He ended the show feeling like a star. 01:40:43.282 --> 01:40:43.902 [SPEAKER_02]: He's a star. 01:40:44.662 --> 01:40:45.482 [SPEAKER_02]: He is a star. 01:40:45.622 --> 01:40:48.283 [SPEAKER_02]: Now, you might argue, you know what? 01:40:48.343 --> 01:40:56.404 [SPEAKER_02]: He's not at the level of X or Y or Z or guy from 10 years ago, or guy from 15 years ago. 01:40:57.524 --> 01:40:57.764 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay? 01:40:59.205 --> 01:41:01.525 [SPEAKER_02]: Can we give it some fucking room to breathe? 01:41:02.185 --> 01:41:03.685 [SPEAKER_02]: Can we give it some time? 01:41:04.406 --> 01:41:07.506 [SPEAKER_02]: And I guarantee fucking to you that if he, 01:41:13.100 --> 01:41:18.644 [SPEAKER_02]: And continues to do, what he has been doing, you have a star. 01:41:19.384 --> 01:41:20.305 [SPEAKER_02]: You have a star right now. 01:41:21.505 --> 01:41:25.248 [SPEAKER_02]: And it's not this massive supernova, but you have a star. 01:41:27.089 --> 01:41:29.831 [SPEAKER_02]: And Chicago, the people let that building. 01:41:30.351 --> 01:41:35.294 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm telling you, if I stuck a microphone in their face and said, what did you think of that match? 01:41:36.595 --> 01:41:37.715 [SPEAKER_02]: They would say it was great. 01:41:42.216 --> 01:41:46.599 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, in, in, in the favor of their AEW star. 01:41:49.401 --> 01:41:53.044 [SPEAKER_02]: Every one of those people walked out of that building and thought you're to suit you was a star. 01:41:54.105 --> 01:41:56.006 [SPEAKER_02]: Pralmship that, Pralmship that. 01:41:58.568 --> 01:42:01.610 [SPEAKER_00]: So what would you say you sort of overall headlines are coming out of the event? 01:42:04.012 --> 01:42:05.313 [SPEAKER_02]: Let's, let's keep the momentum going. 01:42:06.774 --> 01:42:08.916 [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, we started off. 01:42:10.214 --> 01:42:14.598 [SPEAKER_02]: fantastic, better than expectations. 01:42:15.218 --> 01:42:21.584 [SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be hard to keep the momentum going. 01:42:22.525 --> 01:42:22.985 [SPEAKER_02]: Probably. 01:42:25.628 --> 01:42:26.668 [SPEAKER_02]: I can't wait till the weekend. 01:42:27.589 --> 01:42:29.391 [SPEAKER_02]: I can't wait till Saturday. 01:42:29.411 --> 01:42:31.012 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to see what's next. 01:42:31.232 --> 01:42:32.473 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to see the next show. 01:42:33.695 --> 01:42:35.616 [SPEAKER_00]: That's the worst part about it. 01:42:36.177 --> 01:42:36.397 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 01:42:37.505 --> 01:42:40.726 [SPEAKER_00]: So we've got, I'll just do the block matches. 01:42:40.786 --> 01:42:48.428 [SPEAKER_00]: So this Saturday in Hokkaido, fourth match, we got the match that we would have had in Chicago, we're not the V's issues. 01:42:49.088 --> 01:42:50.789 [SPEAKER_00]: It's Drinimaloni versus Gabe Kids. 01:42:51.409 --> 01:43:06.593 [SPEAKER_00]: Great O'Con versus Sanada, Takeshda versus Jake Lee, Oleg Bolton against Utah, Ice, Schingo versus O'O'O'O'O'O'O'O'O'O'O'O'O'O'O'O'O'O'O'O'O'O'O'O'O'O'O'O'O'O'O'O'O'O'O'O'O'O'O'O'O'O'O'O'O'O'O'O'O'O'O'O'O'O'O'O'O'O'O'O'O'O'O'O' 01:43:07.101 --> 01:43:09.982 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, and then they follow that up on the Sunday show. 01:43:10.002 --> 01:43:12.963 [SPEAKER_00]: Don't do correct Sunday show. 01:43:13.063 --> 01:43:14.703 [SPEAKER_00]: We have got the same venue. 01:43:16.864 --> 01:43:18.285 [SPEAKER_00]: Show to versus Aaron Wolf. 01:43:18.365 --> 01:43:19.305 [SPEAKER_00]: That's a fascinating match. 01:43:19.645 --> 01:43:25.587 [SPEAKER_00]: Driller versus Henry Oscar versus Gabe Kidz, Newman versus Ren and you versus Zack. 01:43:27.745 --> 01:43:37.216 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I think they, again, I, again, I, I, I, I, I don't know how you can't be excited. 01:43:37.596 --> 01:43:40.980 [SPEAKER_02]: If you're a new Japan for a wrestling fan, you, how can you not be excited by that? 01:43:41.801 --> 01:43:44.424 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, so yeah, I think they, I, again, I, 01:43:45.852 --> 01:43:49.554 [SPEAKER_02]: A plus on the show, they hit a home run. 01:43:49.594 --> 01:43:50.975 [SPEAKER_02]: The crowd was there. 01:43:51.756 --> 01:43:57.219 [SPEAKER_02]: Keep them a minimum going, it's a fascinating G1 for me. 01:43:58.099 --> 01:44:06.464 [SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, just, again, my biggest disappointments were things that I didn't even experience. 01:44:06.704 --> 01:44:09.446 [SPEAKER_02]: It's, hey, the mic, micing of the arena. 01:44:09.626 --> 01:44:11.607 [SPEAKER_02]: OK, I'm sure that'll be better in Japan. 01:44:15.387 --> 01:44:16.508 [SPEAKER_02]: I really didn't have a complaint. 01:44:16.889 --> 01:44:18.432 [SPEAKER_02]: I really didn't have a complaint. 01:44:19.293 --> 01:44:24.181 [SPEAKER_02]: I think it looked, again, I've spent countless weeks. 01:44:25.087 --> 01:44:53.805 [SPEAKER_02]: taking this promotion and dissecting it and just the disappointment and the negativity and the my vibes are fucking sky high, fucking sky high, and this show really, and again, it was everything, not only was it to show, I look, if you live in fucking Iceland and you're watching this show, I feel like you saw a really fucking good show being there. 01:44:56.112 --> 01:44:57.173 [SPEAKER_02]: really put it over the top. 01:44:58.234 --> 01:44:59.354 [SPEAKER_02]: Ride them on man on New Japan. 01:44:59.594 --> 01:44:59.855 [SPEAKER_02]: Come on. 01:45:00.215 --> 01:45:00.575 [SPEAKER_02]: Let's go. 01:45:02.236 --> 01:45:02.957 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's fuck it go. 01:45:02.977 --> 01:45:04.138 [SPEAKER_00]: See you next time. 01:45:09.641 --> 01:45:09.981 [SPEAKER_02]: We're done?