[SPEAKER_02]: What's up everybody?
[SPEAKER_02]: Welcome to the stack on Alex.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm Justin on Pete and on the stack.
[SPEAKER_02]: We talk about a bunch of books that have come out this week and review them.
[SPEAKER_02]: So spoiler morning here spoilers on because we're going to get right into it with dark nights of steel.
[SPEAKER_02]: Number two number one for DC comment.
[SPEAKER_01]: Number two number one.
[SPEAKER_01]: Number one.
[SPEAKER_02]: Number one.
[SPEAKER_02]: from DC Comics written by Top Teller art by Otto Schmidt.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is an L-Sworlds book set in a mid-eval version of the DC universe.
[SPEAKER_02]: Lots of stuff went on in the previous series, but the short version is that Superman, at Batman are half brothers.
[SPEAKER_02]: They both have Kryptonean superpowers.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's the House of L is one faction.
[SPEAKER_02]: The Amazonians is another faction.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's also the House of Storm.
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to say, which is Black Lightning's family, which doesn't have a lot to do in this particular first issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: And we do pick up with Wonder Woman and Supergirl getting married on a beautiful marriage.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's a little bit of a setup here.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think we were all very positive about the first series.
[SPEAKER_02]: But what do you think about this
[SPEAKER_03]: what's clear number one or number two what's clear what's going on here your eyes check they do number one number two that's not the first thing I thought of when you're asking about number one and I have to follow up questions as your doctor just I would never have done that you know since he has perfect vision
[SPEAKER_01]: True, not the eye part, but if you have a perfectly clear number two, I do think your doctor would have something To ask about not to only talk to us that kind of stuff on this podcast because what is that you know, I mean, can we not not talk about the glass shifts?
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a book or covering later in this tag.
[SPEAKER_01]: I believe
[SPEAKER_03]: Number two, number two, number two.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love this series.
[SPEAKER_01]: This series does, that Tom Taylor gets deep.
[SPEAKER_01]: He has created his own continuity that it's not just the pure analogs we usually get on this type of elsewhere story.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's real mix-em-ups happening here in a way that serves the story.
[SPEAKER_01]: And if you're a fan of game of thrones, the house of the dragon, show that's out coming out right now,
[SPEAKER_01]: such a good version of that in the DC universe where there's all the factions, the scenes even play like Game of Thrones style storytelling where you move across the world and you feel the ramifications of each moment happening not only to the characters in the scene but to everyone else around them.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love this and for an elsewhere story to work this over the course of this many issues
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, it's all right.
[SPEAKER_03]: I like the wedding parts, the art's amazing, but then they broke your head at the end because it's like, oh, super girl, one of them are getting married to your head.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, because then it goes, oh, super girl died.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's my experience.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, number one, number two thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: And you're hard.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it was just like, you know, such a high, just such a low.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was really, you know, don't show me a wedding and then a melee show me a death.
[SPEAKER_03]: The main come out.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I guess not the positivity all the way just happy times.
[SPEAKER_02]: There should be dark nights of happy times is what it should be called.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is right in line with a lot of the other stuff the Tom Taylor and Audit Schmidt have done.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I'm thinking you have specifically deceased which this is very different.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not zombies or anything like that by
[SPEAKER_02]: The thing that Tom Taylor gets very nicely is the core of these DC characters and even as he mixes them around, puts them in different situations, shows them in different ways and even different time periods.
[SPEAKER_02]: You still intrinsically understand two of these characters are and that's no small feat.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a great twist and a great enemy that they recap a little bit in the first
[SPEAKER_02]: There's some teases that there's some even bigger stuff going down in the second one, and I'm very excited to see where it goes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Next up at Vizmille University, Battle B's number 11.
[SPEAKER_02]: The Sky Battle of the image comics written by Robert Cookman, Art by Ryan.
[SPEAKER_02]: hotly the fight between conquest and battlebees continues throughout this issue with all the blood and guts and gore that you might imagine I've certainly felt like Robert has been having a ton of fun with this series just particularly now the conquest is here he's just going for it and pushing right and out late to draw.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think Earth's biggest fight CNC possibly can.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that definitely continues in this issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: What do you guys think?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think it's unbelievable this fight is epic and it's what's great is they get to a point where they have an alliance and they kind of team up because all these monsters want to get in on this epic battle so they're gonna team up and be friends for a little while so quite a twist
[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, I mean, these two are very evenly matched, so I'm excited to see how this all goes on.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm rooting for battle based, but I'm worried because invincible, you know, the TV show happened that like we can't kill off conquest in this.
[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, but yeah, this is awesome.
[SPEAKER_02]: We don't actually happen before that was invincible.
[SPEAKER_02]: The comic where he also didn't die.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Who are you rooting for in this battle beast the ostensible hero here wants to die Conquest villain.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's fights him killing any killing a very cool dragon over the course of this He's heartbreaking.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah dragon good.
[SPEAKER_03]: I like that
[SPEAKER_01]: Big villain and now our hero who wants to die who's biggest win is dying and our villain who's a known monster They team up at the end of this issue.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like Where am I looking here?
[SPEAKER_01]: And what's the fun twist?
[SPEAKER_01]: What was the twist that they're fighting one twist?
[SPEAKER_01]: I felt the thing I felt the most in this issue was I felt bad for the dragon because it was cool and then it died for no absolutely no reason.
[SPEAKER_02]: In the fight between conquest and battle beast, I'm team, oh god could I please leave this city already and leave these people alone because I do think I'm forgetting the name of the Prince with the weird penis who we've been following throughout the series.
[SPEAKER_01]: The Prince Harry I think you're talking about.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, that we meant outside.
[SPEAKER_01]: I did.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what you mean.
[SPEAKER_02]: Prince Harry is who I bet They're first folks.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's got a weird me Hey, man, we do how to do two things review comics or reveal a fun gossip about the royal family
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we're certainly always looking at the royals.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the way we are, but I mean, think about it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hema Felia has spread throughout the British crown for generations because of inbreeding and you think those penises are getting less weird?
[SPEAKER_02]: No way.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've always thought of us as the okay back as the of the comic book podcasting set.
[SPEAKER_02]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's been proven here once again.
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, the prince in here has been slowly trying to feel his way back to rule and being worthy of his rule.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's a nice thing that's going on in the background here.
[SPEAKER_02]: So there's some good character stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: I am rooting for him.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think he's probably due to basically having this happening.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, but I was surprised you didn't mention the very funny last page where they decided to team up at the two Dragon Snake things make a heart around their heads, which I thought was a pretty hilarious last page splash.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just, they're having a lot of fun with this book.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's enjoyable.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's silly.
[SPEAKER_02]: And ultimately, that's what you want.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's a great.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a great fun time.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's see if we're having a great fun time with this next one, Avengers are a get-in number two from Marley Wrenn by Chip Sedarsky, Art by Delia Diaz and Frank Alpazar, there's the big Avengers event.
[SPEAKER_02]: As followed, the de facto Avengers is not actually an Avengers team yet going to lot
[SPEAKER_02]: Red Skull.
[SPEAKER_02]: Red Hulk has taken over thanks to a prognosticating machine that he got from Dr. Doom.
[SPEAKER_02]: He can see everybody's moves.
[SPEAKER_02]: Unfortunately, he hasn't seen David Colton.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was the Captain America of the 2000s with an Iron Man heart and now the powers of A century.
[SPEAKER_02]: not these trees, but in the mids to this fight David Colton, according to some of the heroes because a little bit too far, shockingly beats the Red Hulk who gets taken by the winter guard to Russia and meanwhile, Tony Stark has a stark vision of the future.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's going on in this issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: We've certainly talked about
[SPEAKER_02]: a little bit of confusion going into this event, maybe even in the first issue of this event, now that we're two issues in, how are you feeling?
[SPEAKER_02]: Justin?
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, what I like about it is the fact that we've, the story's moving quickly in a way, the fact that the Red Hulk has been captured and brought up.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love the fact that it's almost over.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I don't even mean that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean that I was worried that it was gonna be a long sit in this fight with Red Hulk before we got to.
[SPEAKER_01]: the David Colton story that feels like what ships and arcee is trying to tell and what the meaning of this is in sort of like I feel like the comment here is maybe like new American patriotism how like Captain America is like an old idea of what being an American hero is
[SPEAKER_01]: And David Colden is sort of a consequences, you know, don't don't matter.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's just do what we want and be powerful, and it feels like that's an interesting commentary on America right now and to do it in a comic book like this, I think is cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think the things that are holding this book back a little bit are the fact that we just did one world under doom, which was playing at least in a similar space, and with similar political ideas, not the same, but just like the fact that that crossover was in this arena makes this feel a little like, it's just a little soft at the edges.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're blending enough that I wish this had more space between these two events so that this could really stay in that zone, because I like what's happening.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, first off cool cover, um, scary line when the Red Hulk is like a god bless new America.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's crazy.
[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, I like to the kind of fights.
[SPEAKER_03]: We got the kind of evil Hulk's here, um,
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I I like this it's it's a little disappointing that there's not one reference to Bruce Willis or Ben Affleck or any of the armor get an original cast, you know, but, you know, no kind of animal cracker pillow talk nothing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, there is a scene where Tony Stark pulled the animal crackers out of red hoax pretty shattered shorts.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I think if there's nothing better than cracker's choice, that's the one we check the script Alex Ben Affleck.
[SPEAKER_01]: I believe use those were uses those words to describe where the animal crackers are going on live Tyler's body in what I think Pete is described as the sex scene in the movie Armageddon.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, I'm really graphic with those animals duck into the hearts shorts and hide.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know I was poking you a little bit about it, Justin, but I do agree the speed is nice because there is a place where they could have dragged out this fight for five issues.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, so instead of these going out to the swimmers, I don't know why the winter guard is there.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what we're doing with Russia.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're talking about we have Red Hulk, he's like a bomb.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think that's how he works, but maybe he will work that way next to issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot of elements in play here.
[SPEAKER_02]: The problem that I'm having with this is it's not operating the way a comic book event or really any event is supposed to,
[SPEAKER_02]: It's supposed to give you the pitch up front.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a little bit of like this building spiraling disaster, but I don't know what this is.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm thinking about like other events, both successful and unsuccessful, regardless, usually have something like civil war, you have the explosion at the playground.
[SPEAKER_02]: They have a fight about it.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're like, we got to register all the superheroes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Capses, I disagree.
[SPEAKER_02]: Ironbread says, I agree.
[SPEAKER_02]: And we're off to the races.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm, you know, even something like blood hunt, it's like vampires that take you over the world.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's your elevator pitch for the story and that whatever you pick up wrong rep for blood hunt.
[SPEAKER_02]: What?
[SPEAKER_02]: Come on.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm trying to think about like various.
[SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't matter how successful the actual event is.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's more about like, I know what the story is going to be about and then you take me on that journey.
[SPEAKER_02]: You give me that elevator pitch.
[SPEAKER_02]: or like crisis on infinite earths.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no, we have a multiverse.
[SPEAKER_02]: Some horrible gigantic beat.
[SPEAKER_02]: We don't know what it is.
[SPEAKER_02]: This destroy everything.
[SPEAKER_02]: How can we stop this adorable wave of destruction that's coming for us?
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, just like Avengers Armageddon versus that right now is like Red Hulk took over because he has a prognostication machine that maybe is the machine from due quest, but it's not entirely queer.
[SPEAKER_02]: And also there's origin boxes.
[SPEAKER_02]: The Dave gave David Colton powers, but he
[SPEAKER_02]: and an ironman heart.
[SPEAKER_02]: We don't know what those powers are.
[SPEAKER_02]: We think they're setry powers and Carol, that verse says a setry powers, but that nobody's actually explicated that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Russia is in their somewhere, the Americans who are actually Italians are like pretty upset about everything that the heroes are doing.
[SPEAKER_02]: And in the midst of it, they're like, we really got it repaired a lot, very out of that.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's five different rulers.
[SPEAKER_02]: So there's just like too many balls, big juggled to the air for me to really hold onto what actually is the story at the moment.
[SPEAKER_02]: And maybe it'll become clear at the end, and maybe it'll look back and be like, oh, wow, it was actually, yes, Pete, you know what that's, but it's gonna happen.
[SPEAKER_03]: Because they're holding it back and giving it to you slowly.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then the big reveal be the last love that you love them like I'm not saying I love it I'm just saying that's what they're doing Yeah, you just instead of you show up and then it's like I'll pop quiz day and you're like oh fuck
[SPEAKER_01]: pop quiz day.
[SPEAKER_01]: You still sell it right there.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: You do sell pop quizzes.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're a real quiz master.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, in response to you, Alex, I would say, I think there could be two reasons for this.
[SPEAKER_01]: One, I think this event is meant to feel different, especially perhaps on the heels of one world under doom.
[SPEAKER_01]: So they are sneaking up on the premise a little bit else.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think the second reason is maybe because this does feel like it's commenting directly on our modern world.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's a slowly, a way to disguise it is to walk into it a little more slowly.
[SPEAKER_01]: If it came out and was like, the world, America has been very aggressive on the world stage as an opening premise.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it would have been a little too nakedly satirical when I think the story is meant to be a little bit more of a subtle commentary on it through the metaphor of superheroes.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll throw something else at you.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's probably more likely aping Avengers Disassembled, which they've already called out as kind of the inspiration here.
[SPEAKER_02]: And we know they're going to add up with a very new Avengers style team at the end.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Avengers assembled was a nonsense event.
[SPEAKER_02]: The whole thing about Avengers to assemble is, what if a bunch of bad things happen to the Avengers incongruously all at the same time?
[SPEAKER_02]: That's just like, wouldn't that be a bad day for them?
[SPEAKER_02]: And it was a bad day for them, and then they got a new team.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that's what they're doing here again, and that's not a good bottle for an event.
[SPEAKER_01]: But here's the thing, that's interesting, you say that because I actually, the beginning of Avengers Disassembled has stuck out to me because I was like this feels like without reason in a way that feels like reality.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, where it's like, oh, I had a really bad day.
[SPEAKER_01]: Three bad things happened to me.
[SPEAKER_01]: That doesn't, those weren't announced as a premise in my life.
[SPEAKER_01]: They just happened to happen all at the same time.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, I was kind of the same level, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like you, not doing where to find your keys is basically the same thing as Hawkeye, throwing himself into an alien ship.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_01]: Jack of Hearts getting ruined is that I'd meet having a horrible case of diarrhea or something.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, by the way, there's this new diarrhea going on.
[SPEAKER_03]: New diarrhea is new.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let me ask you Alex, because you bring this up a lot.
[SPEAKER_01]: Is it an even newer or are you still talking about the same new?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we're talking about a new one here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Is it clear?
[SPEAKER_02]: No, we again.
[SPEAKER_02]: We got to talk about this.
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll check you out.
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll give you a full example.
[SPEAKER_01]: Clear diarrhea.
[SPEAKER_01]: That'd be a hard one.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a hard news.
[SPEAKER_01]: How would you even know it's there?
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[SPEAKER_03]: You're a fan.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I loved it.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was great.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's actually, we don't get Godzilla yet in this.
[SPEAKER_03]: We get Mac and Godzilla and then Mothra in this issue.
[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, we're working our way up to Godzilla.
[SPEAKER_03]: But this is a lot of fun.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is a cool, it's kind of fun to see.
[SPEAKER_03]: Eggman, who's worried about his beautiful mustache.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's just fun.
[SPEAKER_03]: A great premise.
[SPEAKER_03]: The art is kind of a little lighter.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it makes everything a little bit more kind
[SPEAKER_03]: fund that rather than serious everybody's dying.
[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, I really enjoyed this.
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought it was a great use of these kind of two worlds mashing together.
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you feel like it's a big step down getting mecha Godzilla instead of regular Godzilla?
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you got to work your way up to a JT says you can't just Godzilla or yeah, like what if you've got on you signed on to record our podcast and you had mecha Justin here?
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, it's all built on real JTC shows up at some point.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'd be willing to deal with it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I can send a robot.
[SPEAKER_03]: Eggman being fascinated by Matt Godzilla.
[SPEAKER_03]: Matt Godzilla makes a lot of sense.
[SPEAKER_03]: And they answer fun moments.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's into robots.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's his thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: I do have a I just want to list some characters from this comic and see if any of these stick out of strange.
[SPEAKER_01]: We've got Sonic the Hedgehog.
[SPEAKER_01]: His friend Tails.
[SPEAKER_01]: We have Dr. Eggman.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then we have another important character named Amy.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Everybody loves Amy.
[SPEAKER_03]: What do you think?
[SPEAKER_01]: What do you think?
[SPEAKER_01]: Any of those names strike you as a little, maybe not having a lot of character.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I won't mention her name as Amy Rose.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I believe if I recall, there's a kiss from a Rose.
[SPEAKER_02]: Joe Kid there, which I asked Nick about it.
[SPEAKER_02]: He was like, Oh, I did it.
[SPEAKER_02]: But what was crazy to me because I was like, no, you did a kiss from a rooster.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's a very subtle name of Amy Rose.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I agree.
[SPEAKER_02]: She should be like Amy also the hedgehog.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, another just wild name.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was just very funny.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yelling it tails and Amy.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, it's strange.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the name Amy always reminds me of Ted and Amy in the morning on 93Q in the series of tutorial.
[SPEAKER_01]: Who, when I was on the bus, I just learned this when I was home for the Fourth of July.
[SPEAKER_01]: Ted and Amy in the morning, I was on the bus as a middle schooler listening to them do bits on the radio.
[SPEAKER_01]: They are still on the radio in the Syracuse area, doing the same things.
[SPEAKER_03]: Timeless comedy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Timeless.
[SPEAKER_02]: Are you sure it's not, are you sure it's not mechatom?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's mechat.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, one of mechat, it's mechatad and human Amy and everyone's like, same.
[SPEAKER_01]: Those names make sense together.
[SPEAKER_02]: absolute green arrow number three from DC comics written by poor insect piece of show to art by Raphael Albuquerque we heard following a serial killer version of green arrow who's going around ostensibly getting vengeance for the death of Oliver Queen but maybe in fact he is oh but probably not oh dang it
[SPEAKER_02]: Just so you've been a big fan of this one.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Did you think about this issue?
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, this comic is so exciting.
[SPEAKER_01]: It feels like it is opening up an area of the absolute universe that has him in touch.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we've seen all of the big ideas that we're getting in absolute Batman.
[SPEAKER_01]: the heavy mythology and absolute Wonder Woman superman stuff definitely commenting on culture and like the nature of work and stuff like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: But the way that this book is taking a former heroes and making them into corporate
[SPEAKER_01]: money-hungry villains in this absolute universe.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's so good.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's messing me up in as I read it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I love the unfolding mystery of it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought we were going to mostly be dealing with just fights and murder.
[SPEAKER_01]: And in this issue, we get a dive in in a direction at the end that I did not see coming in really enjoyed.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, one question I have, Jay Tissis, is
[SPEAKER_03]: I was kind of enjoying it a little bit, you know, and then all of a sudden there sounds like an inflatable grundy that happens.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like we see this kind of like skinsuit just laying on this kind of like table if you will and you're like, oh shit, who is that?
[SPEAKER_03]: What's going on?
[SPEAKER_03]: And then it like turns into a grundy.
[SPEAKER_03]: Is that like
[SPEAKER_03]: You add water to a skin suit that would be clasped.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was thinking it's like it's it's Jim carries the mask and he has to blow himself up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, first of all, I think those are two entirely separate people.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's one of the things that's going on there where somebody has been experimenting on people and doing strange things to them.
[SPEAKER_02]: There is some sort of skin suit that's on the table and then separately there is a grundee who attacks them so that they're not the same thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought maybe because I was reading in my comic book that it was like, you know, related to each other, but completely different.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a great book.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, all right.
[SPEAKER_03]: My bad.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, there's just different people.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's all.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
[SPEAKER_01]: The one difference is the Grundy has eyeballs all over his body, and the other one is, um, switched.
[SPEAKER_01]: Switch?
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, other than them, looking entirely different, they might be the same, I guess.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, it just seemed like it was like, yeah, I was wondering how we got from flat Stanley to Grundy.
[SPEAKER_03]: Kind of thrown, but I guess it was just a different person.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_02]: Art in this is great.
[SPEAKER_02]: I agree with you that everything is feeling very dangerous.
[SPEAKER_02]: It is intriguing what's going on.
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to know more about this mystery, and that's a kind of a good mystery.
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel entirely engrossed and involved in this mystery.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, and I really like that it has the introduction in this issue of some sort of mad science.
[SPEAKER_01]: It does simultaneously be like, oh, it's going to be someone else who's able to mimic Oliver Queen.
[SPEAKER_01]: Or it's going to be reanimated Oliver Queen, who's making sort of getting revenge on the life he wants had as a corporate villain by being the sort of Robinhood Oliver Queen that we get from the main universe.
[SPEAKER_01]: And both of those ideas are awesome.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm excited any which way this goes.
[SPEAKER_02]: G-I-Jone number 24 from Skybound and image comics written by Joshua Williams in Art by Andrey Melana.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is the final issue of the arc.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's pick both G-I-Jone and Cobra against Crystal Ball who has new fear attack that can pull out their most horrible fears out of their heads leads to
[SPEAKER_02]: a bit of a team up between some of the characters and a big revelation by the end.
[SPEAKER_02]: Pete, you're our GI Joe guy.
[SPEAKER_02]: What do you think about this one?
[SPEAKER_03]: This was fun.
[SPEAKER_03]: We got to see Destro and Baroness in a kind of team up moment.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, just seeing them together was just absolutely fantastic.
[SPEAKER_03]: for my nostalgia bath.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was really glorious.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I, you know, having burned to say, are you insane?
[SPEAKER_03]: Was just such a fun.
[SPEAKER_03]: I really felt like I was watching classic tagline, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, classic.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I always said that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and I thought that was a kind of a fun issue, um, you know, we're, Death's Row, we're, we're fighting ghosts, and, um, you know, but that everybody likes energy on it, even if you're a ghost, do you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not a ghost, there's our fears brought to life through the power of energy on, which is something they can do anything.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, well, that's very true, I guess.
[SPEAKER_02]: It must be nice.
[SPEAKER_02]: As we discover it towards the end of the issue, I mean, we found this out before, but it happens here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Energine could also make masks.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Which are different from the masks for mask.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: But, you know, Zartan is the king of the kind of mask, so he was kind of perfect in this.
[SPEAKER_02]: But he needs the Energine needs to smear the Energine all over his face.
[SPEAKER_02]: to make a mask.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, this is an ad, you know, I smear it all in my face before I, that's how I do it.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's what you, what do you smear all of your face?
[SPEAKER_03]: That's how, how else do you think you're talking about peanut butter?
[SPEAKER_01]: You're talking about peanut butter.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's, this is actually a fun fact.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if you've ever mentioned this, but the way that we make it look like Pete talks of a podcast, it's smearing his lips with peanut butter.
[SPEAKER_01]: classic Hollywood dealing with animals because his thing Pete never wants to talk and we have to put peanut butter on the roof of his mouth.
[SPEAKER_01]: We have to wave sticks with carrots on the end of them because he loves carrots.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh sorry we pizza horse.
[SPEAKER_01]: We shouldn't say that as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think this issue was great.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm enjoying this GI Joe series, especially like the focus on the individual characters.
[SPEAKER_01]: I really like risk.
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought Crystal Ball was cool as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I believe having a crystal ball is what does lead to a clear number one.
[SPEAKER_02]: That would be great.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, Pete?
[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Cats in America, number 13, for Marvel, my chips at Arskie, art by Tone, Lima.
[SPEAKER_02]: Cats in America is in hell with Dr. Two.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, man.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they're trying to ferment a rebellion against Mufisto.
[SPEAKER_02]: And this issue, they beat up with a religious leader, doubted, who is going to help them get a bigger army.
[SPEAKER_02]: And there's a big revelation.
[SPEAKER_02]: At the end for those of you who have been reading all the way back to fantastic for number like 60 something You've got to be freaking out about this plot point when you saw to this issue of Captain America You definitely read and remember Yeah, I mean who doesn't keep track of their access.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I mean come on Wait, what do you mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, yeah Uh, this is what your exes did you sacrifice for magic be all of them?
[SPEAKER_01]: And by magic I mean magic the gathering card says what I think you did it
[SPEAKER_02]: I love pulling completely forgotten plot points, that's great, that's awesome, but if you have to tell a story where you're revealing a character and the character is like, oh, don't you remember me, Dr. Doom at the last page, it's like, see if a testic for, number 62 from 1960, whatever, I'm like, yeah, you know, no, no, you did not establish this properly, I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, yeah, I mean, I guess it is a little perhaps efficient at the end, but I liked it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I liked the move.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's, um, I feel the doom in this comic is a little bit of a loser, which I think is interesting, like, when he's, he's essentially the leader here, but the cap just has all these extra powers because
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm assuming because he's not actually dead and in hell so he has these good so he has all this extra juice down there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Is that what do you think?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, maybe I'm still confused about how he came back at all because if I remember correctly at the end of one world under doom the whole deal was he could bring back Valeria Richards to life but he would be entirely erased from reality forever with no chance of returning.
[SPEAKER_02]: a doubt here he is back at hell and there's been no explanation whatsoever well he's just in a quote yeah he's he can be in oh no not catch an america doctor do oh doctor do you were saying catch an america's looser
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I think Dr. Doom is a loop.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was talking about Captain America's powers because he's still alive.
[SPEAKER_01]: He has this extra juice.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: OK, sorry, I missed to be there.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, I agree with you about Doom.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just also confusing because there's so many Doom stories coming out now.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're he's in various
[SPEAKER_01]: ages of continuity to yes I agree with you and I almost think this is a not really doom and is some aspect of him or something because he is sort of like so ineffective and I thought I would think it would be more of an actual powerful doom who would be down here but the fact that revealed the end of the last page makes me feel like I want to see doom confront the woman he feels to have magic so I do and now hope it's him.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, I was pleasantly surprised by this issue.
[SPEAKER_03]: I really liked the choices that it was making.
[SPEAKER_03]: I also, this is one of the first times I ever thought Mofisto was used well.
[SPEAKER_03]: Having Mofisto talk shit to red skull about like how fucking bullshit he is was awesome.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and then on bread skull kind of being like, you know, fuck this, I'm going to go find my Nazi boys was really such an interesting and kind of it was interesting to see them actually Nazi red skull up a bit because usually get red skull being like, yeah, we know where the background he's a Nazi, but we're not going to really talk about that.
[SPEAKER_02]: His plan is not explicitly racist or anything.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but here is like I love Nazis.
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to find some more Nazis.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've been Nazi and I hate everybody who is like me.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, oh, they're having to be none of the, any other Nazis in hell and they're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
[SPEAKER_01]: But also, I did think it was funny red skulls like, hey, just visiting hell, I'm like, bro.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right?
[SPEAKER_01]: What are you talking about?
[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, trying to be like a above hell.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's why I feel like my fistos talk and shit to him so much.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: T.H.
[SPEAKER_02]: is really digital's the last road in training day and number one from I.D.W.
[SPEAKER_02]: written by Kevin Eastman and Tom Walts, Art by Ben Bishop, a scores of brothers and Freddie E. Williams, the second.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is taking place during the continuity and after and before the continuity of the last road, and it is showing how King Kong got nothing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, boo.
[SPEAKER_03]: Hey, this was awesome, man.
[SPEAKER_03]: Don't talk trash.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is great.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is Mikey's turn to kind of be a leader.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was really loving the kind of the the weight of this moment and how Mikey is kind of handling this.
[SPEAKER_03]: The arts fantastic and you know, gives you a little hope at the end there.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm excited for more of this and I thought this was a really good start kind of
[SPEAKER_03]: good use of kind of like ghost or kind of like, you know, flashback type moment.
[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, I thought this was well done.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, just to clarify, this is a one shot that takes place during the continuity of the last run in.
[SPEAKER_02]: So there is no more of it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, come on man, I was just getting into it.
[SPEAKER_02]: You read the last run, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I did.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know, he dies, he's the last one.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, there's no more.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then they get those weird looking turtles that they had there who pick up his legacy.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's yeah, that's exciting.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I feel like there may be establishing them as the next last row and whatever.
[SPEAKER_02]: They already had a sequel.
[SPEAKER_02]: They were in that.
[SPEAKER_02]: This took place before that as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't believe it took them this long to make a book that is able to capitalize on the fact the last one is like the number one comic ever all the time in the last what years now it's been like, again, they've had like one or two sequels already.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is like the third fourth sequel to this thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, great then I'm glad there was friend.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sorry.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I I appreciate that
[SPEAKER_01]: But this feels, especially in relation to the Teenage of Ninja Turtle series that has been coming out of the Jace and Aaron started, which I really enjoyed, this feels like it's using those ideas in a slightly less effective way.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, where like having visions of your buds and they're just like sort of chillin.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, Okay, yeah, but that's how you remember them.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_02]: I guess they were a little too solid.
[SPEAKER_01]: They look like They look like just grave versions of the turtles versus ghostly versions of the turtles that he was remembering which was a little weird today Well, and let me shout out to ARC because I actually did like the way that the art was able to differentiate the different ages that were covered in this book I thought was well done
[SPEAKER_01]: And but I don't know I thought this was going when I saw this and then started it I was like Oh, this is going to be a big new idea and it felt like it will just wasn't quite that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah New Titans number 37 from DC comics written by Tate Bramble art by Marcus toe and Sammy Bosery
[SPEAKER_02]: lot of stuff going out of this issue as a big demon is maybe trying to eat a bunch of babies in the neighboring town next to the titans new facility.
[SPEAKER_02]: Meanwhile inside the facility, cyborg is trying to keep the heart of a apocalypse secret while a big dragon comes out of the lava of the of the volcano through the beginning.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's secrets, there's lies, there's people leaving the team, there's people joining the team.
[SPEAKER_02]: Lots of stuff going on here.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've been having a blast reading this new-ish series.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know I've said this every issue, but it really has X-Men but with the Titans vibes, and that's good for me.
[SPEAKER_02]: How do you guys feel about this one?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I would say just push it even further in that idea.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like X-Men, but the Titans, in that it's able to juggle so many different storylines and plotlines in the same issue, yet still have the very human moments with each of them.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like we get a great sort of segue with our cutaway with Nightwing, dealing with he's leaving a voicemail for a long time.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Barcao.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, Barcao.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, like that was such a fun moment.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's interesting if you've been reading the the Barbara Gordon series where she's not doing well in prison and have him leading this sort of like lighthearted but thoughtful message as a man it's much much worse than you're thinking so The continuity is making giving even more resonance to this story the actions great and I'm very much looking forward to the character we're going to get added to the team next.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, static.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's go ahead.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's that's very exciting.
[SPEAKER_03]: I agree.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is a blast.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a great use of the characters.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's fun.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's got a great pace to it.
[SPEAKER_03]: It just feels young and exciting.
[SPEAKER_03]: Just like us.
[SPEAKER_03]: Wow, I wouldn't say that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, you've done it on a long time.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love this song because I see it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I see myself at it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And, anyway, why don't we move on and talk about that, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: I've seen how you just died.
[SPEAKER_02]: From the image comics written by Rob Leifeld, art by Seth Vemus.
[SPEAKER_02]: Vemus?
[SPEAKER_02]: Are you saying Vemus?
[SPEAKER_02]: Vemus?
[SPEAKER_02]: Domus.
[SPEAKER_02]: Seth Damos, they're all connected to a V. They used to work from Moosilai, and you're right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Any of them were just fooling you a little bit.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just obvious.
[SPEAKER_03]: You were saying you were young?
[SPEAKER_03]: You were just saying that, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: You were saying that.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was saying that.
[SPEAKER_01]: See, I'm too young to know what bad rock is.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is the character from like the 90s because I was definitely born in the off.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, it's like concrete, but he's like more badass.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is the character from Youngblood getting his own spin-off series.
[SPEAKER_02]: Here he hangs out with his mama punch and his mom gets kidnapped and he goes after his mom and that some other things happen to talk about is, yes, the section where Rob Livefell just takes a random shot at Marvel movies and has Bad Rock wearing a Rob
[SPEAKER_02]: That's crazy.
[SPEAKER_02]: All you think so?
[SPEAKER_02]: What?
[SPEAKER_03]: You think it's either a Rob-Li-Fulled creation listens to a Rob-Li-Fulled podcast?
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, let me ask you, do you think he knows that bad rock knows he was created by the host of Robsterations?
[SPEAKER_03]: It seems like he's in on it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, this is his chance to hear the word of his God directly.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, think about it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because that has a lot of implications.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: If God had a podcast, which was a great song back on the day, by the way.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Who would have gone had a pod?
[SPEAKER_01]: Cousin.
[SPEAKER_01]: We'd have some guess and Mike problems.
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you think it would be more like good hang with A.B.
[SPEAKER_02]: Polar?
[SPEAKER_02]: Or would it be more like a hot one's type thing?
[SPEAKER_02]: We'd do something stunty.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, it would be A.B.
[SPEAKER_02]: Polar.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, come on.
[SPEAKER_01]: I got bad news.
[SPEAKER_01]: It would be Joe Rogan.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no.
[SPEAKER_02]: God.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, God.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, wow.
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't know that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Really?
[SPEAKER_02]: We pulled off the research on that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, man.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it would be.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it was the comic.
[SPEAKER_03]: Did we want to talk about the comic?
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not really.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: No.
[SPEAKER_03]: What did you want to say about it?
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, I was just, it was also like,
[SPEAKER_03]: Even the origin story was like this kid just drank this serum.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was like, don't It was like, oh, yeah, and he randomly went into a science lab and just drank a serum and got superpowers I was like, oh my god, like don't encourage kids to like do horrible things in hopes that they get superpowers First of all, no kids are gonna read this comic book, so that's not it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you know how much lab access kids are getting me
[SPEAKER_03]: There's that story about the kid who let a black winter spider bite him because he wanted spider powers.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was like no You tried to drink a radio act.
[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't I almost did, but I didn't I made a What a dance like 40 minutes, but I didn't do it imagine true 40 minutes.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's so much of your day
[SPEAKER_03]: Deciding whether to drink it 40 minutes.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, that was eating food and contemplating life.
[SPEAKER_02]: Over a puddle, you're eating and deciding to get over the puddle, because you're just hoping it's a puddle with an axe.
[SPEAKER_02]: It would be like, oops.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I got it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: She'd have brought another animal.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a drink from the puddle.
[SPEAKER_01]: Do a little experiment, like Bad Rock's Dad, famous.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, the section where the, that you mentioned of like, I hope Nolan delivers with the Odyssey, the Feige Flops are for real.
[SPEAKER_01]: New Spider-Man should be solid.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, this is, I see with that.
[SPEAKER_01]: It really pulls you out of the read, I felt like, to be positive, I thought the art was great by Seth Demoose and actual moose and like sets of tone for the series that I hope it can be a little bit more like fun and funny rather than reference.
[SPEAKER_01]: See is what I would be.
[SPEAKER_03]: Are you saying a moose could be a good artist?
[SPEAKER_03]: Is that what you're trying to say?
[SPEAKER_02]: There's actually no law that says a boost can't be an artist.
[SPEAKER_02]: What if Jessica Jones number one a great question from Marvel written by Justina Ireland art by David and Missina this is the latest issue celebrating 50 years of what if and the idea here is what if the radio actor spider bit Jessica Jones instead of Peter Parker if you forgot they were actually classmates Jessica had a crush on Peter Parker and instead here we find out
[SPEAKER_02]: not just how she became a spider hero but we cut in in a very similar situation years later where she does want to use those powers anymore she's hanging on a bar with Luke Cage and instead get sucked back into the superhero life one more time so it's not necessarily the world ending what if uh that Jerry Dougett issue that we've talked about it's a little more like
[SPEAKER_02]: If the world went this way instead of the other way, what did you guys think about this one?
[SPEAKER_01]: I really like this.
[SPEAKER_01]: The smart choice.
[SPEAKER_01]: I like following Jessica Jones.
[SPEAKER_01]: I like that she's a bartender having rejected this superhero lifestyle similar to what she did in the main Marvel continuity with her previous life as a superhero.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the part that I thought that was really smart was having Peter Parker be like a skumbag.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like as if he never had the spider bite and the Uncle Ben mistake that led to him being the sort of with great power comes great responsibility.
[SPEAKER_01]: Character that we know and love, he's just like a sort of paparazzi guy trying to just get by in the news world.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, oh, I wouldn't have expected that choice to let him be such a jerk.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so I thought that was really cool and I, I'd like you mention Alex, this wasn't like the world beating um, other uh, what if stories this one just left us in a part where Jessica Jones ends up fighting getting back on her path.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but I still like the story.
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, yeah, I mean, I'm not a big what if a fan.
[SPEAKER_03]: So this isn't in my wheelhouse.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, but I also thought the acid spit was weird.
[SPEAKER_02]: I really enjoyed that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought this whole one shot was very fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I do prefer the what ifs where the world explodes at the end.
[SPEAKER_02]: But just on the basis of this is a comic.
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought this was really well put together.
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought the acid spit, which he jokes about at the beginning.
[SPEAKER_02]: She's like, oh yeah, I have all these powers.
[SPEAKER_02]: I spit acid.
[SPEAKER_02]: I do this other thing at the later on.
[SPEAKER_02]: She spits acid, which I thought was a very funny bit.
[SPEAKER_02]: Additionally, the flashback sequence is sort of looking a little bit like the 1960s style comics.
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought we're very fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: The spider girl costume that they designed for her was pretty neat as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: I like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: So this was really well thought out and really well drawn.
[SPEAKER_02]: Great one shot regardless of the what if or not.
[SPEAKER_02]: Next up, Smile for the camera, number five from IDW written by Hannah Rose, may art by Muriana, probably others in the final issue of the series that has found a bunch of fashion models attacked by the smile entity that all comes to a close here, how do you guys feel about how it wrapped up?
[SPEAKER_01]: I like to, I really enjoyed this series and you know, I'm not a
[SPEAKER_01]: huge, it's not like I'm dying for the smile series of movies, but I thought this, this is a great stand-alone comic even if you haven't even seen those movies.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the rule we get at the, in this final issue, I thought was really well deployed at the last scene.
[SPEAKER_01]: where the monster is literally coming for her.
[SPEAKER_01]: And at the same time, she's finding her way out of it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought was just beautifully staged.
[SPEAKER_01]: A great, like a well-written scene that used the comic book medium to show it in a way that I think any other medium it wouldn't have been as good.
[SPEAKER_01]: So really enjoy that.
[SPEAKER_03]: I really like the art that scares the shit out of me, so this isn't my cup of tea, but the kind of use of the color red with the monster and different stuff is really kind of unique and cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, I really kind of enjoyed that aspect of it, otherwise it's scared of the shit out of me.
[SPEAKER_02]: I like this quite a bit as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: I, as a fan of the smile series, it did feel like some of the rules, the sort of montage research thing came in a little late.
[SPEAKER_02]: And this last issue, I would have maybe liked to see it peppered a bit throughout the series.
[SPEAKER_02]: But the characterization was really good.
[SPEAKER_02]: The insight into the fast and industry was interesting as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: And there's just a really good focus in the series in general on misogyny.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that came through here as well.
[SPEAKER_03]: Also the the picture with the kind of that they used in the Times Square ad with the shark behind her was pretty cool too That was fan of photography.
[SPEAKER_01]: You love The P in another world.
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like you could really be lighting up the fashion world.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh wow.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's so nice here to say
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a man on limited number 15 from DC Comics written by Dan Slot art by Lucas Byer picking up off the big cliffhanger of the last issue that revealed that the John Kent was brought through is not our John Kent, but actually the son of Ultraman from Earth 3 and
[SPEAKER_02]: superwoman over there.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's kind of a big twist.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then this issue I thought really nicely does what Dan Slot does best, which he found a very earnest emotional way out of this situation that serves both the John Kent that we know as well as this new John Kent from Earth III.
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought it was neatly done and wrapped up really nicely while still dangling a bunch of plotlines that can pick up in the future.
[SPEAKER_02]: A good arc of this book.
[SPEAKER_01]: Nobody writes comics like Dance Thought, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, where like he has such a deep, he reaches so deeply into continuity.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's very thoughtful about how to like exploit these ideas that are already on the table.
[SPEAKER_01]: And does so, but the real genius of it, I think, is he does it with such a light touch.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's able to add moments of comedy throughout that I think keep it from being too heavy, too heavy handed in dance for someone who's just coming to the comic.
[SPEAKER_01]: without knowing all of this deep, deep history.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so like, I think this is a work-threading if you just want to see someone pull off that magic trick.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, you can't do deep reaching without a ship with hands, so it was fun to see the old punching hands ship in this.
[SPEAKER_03]: nice kind of kind of callback.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I know the, oh, yes, the Superman ship who has hands and is helping out here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I, I, you know, there are a lot of crazy twists and turns in here.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you know, I don't like to see the super suns fighting, so that was tough for me, but other than that, this is a blast and, you know, it's got a good team behind it.
[SPEAKER_02]: of the earth number three from image comics written by Chris Condon and Andrew Eric art by Charlie Adlard we've following a woman who came to visit her grandma but found her covered in oil and crazy and so she called a oil guy to come help her and things have gotten worse and we're here from there we've got a bunch of big reveals this issue about maybe what's going on here with the hint that worse things are to come which guys think.
[SPEAKER_01]: Here's the great, I mean, I think Chris kind of an Andrew Eric story is great, but the Charlie Adelard art is just perfect for this.
[SPEAKER_01]: It reminds me so much of like old school walking dead, the back sort of third of this issue is like a
[SPEAKER_01]: real just pot boiler of a scene between the two main characters with a dread happening from two quadrants around them a monster in the basement and grandma not doing so hot.
[SPEAKER_01]: But it really is just like shot reverse on both characters and Charlie Adler is able to make them all feel so tense, so like genre, e and moody and that it's just
[SPEAKER_01]: It's really great.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you're at a fan of a old school walking dead, I think you'll really like this.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's a great call of the walking dead with their kind of back and forth.
[SPEAKER_03]: It really reminds me of it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, this is scary.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, also like, you know, she's way too calm after she finds that monster in the basement and then has a conversation afterwards.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like once there's a monster in the basement, there's no conversation time, you know, but she's got grandma biting her hand.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't want to talk about that, but I think that I hear you.
[SPEAKER_03]: There is a lack going on, but once you see a monster in the basement.
[SPEAKER_02]: Can I ask you a question, Pete?
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you don't have to confirm whether you got bitten by your grandma, but if one does get bitten by one's grandma, do you gain the proportion of strength speed and agility of a grandma?
[SPEAKER_02]: I wish that might explain a couple of the things.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: It would be.
[SPEAKER_01]: You have sort of a instead of a spider sense, you have a Sudoku sense, constantly tingling, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, I do have a love of putting plastic over the furniture, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: If I ever get invited to your house, I can't wait to not sit down.
[SPEAKER_03]: More than welcome, man.
[SPEAKER_03]: More than welcome.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, never say that it is.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is scary, great art.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, the grandma stuff was a little heartbreaking.
[SPEAKER_02]: The Punisher versus Spider-Man number one for a powerful word by Dad Abbott.
[SPEAKER_02]: Art by Matteo Delafante, we are getting a retelling of the first meeting between Punisher and Spider-Man, I believe the rest of the series will be jumping forward in time to show us a different little pockets of fun with these two characters in advance of them being on screen together in, of course, the Odyssey or there'll be on screen together coming up.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, and also Spider-Man bread.
[SPEAKER_03]: Spider-Man, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: It should be.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I had a blast with this.
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought they did a great job of kind of having fun with Spider-Man but being more serious with the punisher.
[SPEAKER_03]: The back and forth was great.
[SPEAKER_03]: The Spidey line forgive me father.
[SPEAKER_03]: I have skimmed.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was hilarious.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I just saw the
[SPEAKER_03]: This was great and Art was fantastic.
[SPEAKER_03]: They did such a great job with the tones I was really impressed by this and I'm excited and hopeful for the movie
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this is maybe one of my favorite Punisher stories I've read, I really like there's a lot of humanizing done for the character here and Spider-Man's care taken in trying to understand the Punisher.
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was really well done.
[SPEAKER_01]: These characters both learning a little bit from each other.
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was also cool and something we rarely see especially with the Punisher.
[SPEAKER_03]: The idea that normally it's like, oh, you don't want me to kill.
[SPEAKER_01]: And what didn't have net does is boils down like spider men's like I don't ever play anything I show up and operate on impulse in Spidey sense.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, I do that a lot in my life, too Like especially the doctor's office.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, but test.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I
[SPEAKER_01]: But what I like about on the Punisher side, he's also saying, oh, I'm meticulous.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a soldier.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm someone who plans everything.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't just go load my guns and run into the streets.
[SPEAKER_01]: I have a network of people that I rely on to give me the intel I need to then strike.
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought that was, that's the Punisher.
[SPEAKER_01]: We talked about this on the Alex and I on the Punisher.
[SPEAKER_01]: Marvel vision episode our podcast Marvel vision talking about the special that there are many different Punishers and the one that I like and I think makes sense is the meticulous soldier who's very careful when he kills And out the dude who just walks up to someone who stole $10 and he's like, you dead punk My family was killed and now I kill anyone who avialates any crime So I really like this as a Punisher story as well
[SPEAKER_02]: I do have a question for you guys in more recent years the punishers costume he's had a skull and the teeth of the skull are like the little pouches that he's wearing.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is his older costume where he has the skull and he has a bunch of enormous pouches.
[SPEAKER_02]: Does it look like the skull has two large buck teeth coming out to you guys?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like a bunch of these skull.
[SPEAKER_01]: based on this image we're seeing the cover.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's I think a bunny or a beaver skull.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm going to go beaver.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to say beaver.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, actually, I think Pete said bunny and so I think he's more of a bonisher.
[SPEAKER_01]: Is that right, Pete?
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just checking with you.
[SPEAKER_01]: Is he a bunny sure?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he loves you.
[SPEAKER_01]: He kills rabbits.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I had a control.
[SPEAKER_03]: Ducks season.
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, I, yeah, I also, the only thing that I didn't like in this, and I loved to everything, it was the, uh, the smoke show.
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought that was a little too loud in the nose there.
[SPEAKER_01]: What was on the nose?
[SPEAKER_01]: I actually thought that was cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: There.
[SPEAKER_03]: Was on the nose attractive woman called smoke show?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, I come on.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I think what they say in the comics, that was her, like, soldier nickname.
[SPEAKER_01]: which especially I don't know how much that actually happens in real life, but in comics, every soldier has a cool nickname.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, his nickname was Punisher, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Big pun.
[SPEAKER_01]: In the most recent series, what was that?
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, uh, a long way home.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Jonathan Eggman one, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: The Hickman, he was definitely the Punisher and everyone else was like, I'm snow job, I'm also snow job.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not a snow job.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a snow job.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you can.
[SPEAKER_02]: Kingdom of Earth.
[SPEAKER_02]: Number one from Dark Horse Comics written by David Desmoncian and Leah Kilpatrick art by Sue Lee.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a better world that's been taken over by monsters and potentially the only relating human who is trying to escape and stay alive.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe there's more out there, but we only see one.
[SPEAKER_02]: Pete, you seem pretty stoked about this as Sumier on the side of the monsters.
[SPEAKER_03]: Always.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I just feel like I'm always reading for Godzilla.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I felt like this was just a great number one issue.
[SPEAKER_03]: You kind of were thrown into this world here.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's in the future.
[SPEAKER_03]: Humans have lost monsters or winning.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, just really cool characters design.
[SPEAKER_03]: Nice use of black as like characters, but also the shadows and stuff like that.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was just kind of really impressed with being thrown in kind of the middle here.
[SPEAKER_03]: and then the kind of join us next time ending, you know, where we were saved by the unlikely person who maybe is working both sides and gives you a hope for the future.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I just thought this was really kind of cool and unique and I'd like to it's five.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I did as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: I like the idea that it's not just a particular type of monster.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's any monster.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's like beasts, but also like a pretty nasty as clown is How the monster creation works on this world my one quibble was like the our main character as you can see on the cover here is has made close out of an American flag.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I can't imagine a less comfortable fabric to wear against my body or black material.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, maybe your clothes get blown off and the only thing that's close by is blown off like from wind.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, like from a explosion.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the clothes alone get blown off.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you know, the old classic.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, but the skin is fine.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, like my clothes blew up.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't even like a 1950s pornography.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're like the wars blowing clothes off.
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, I was actually a little disappointed that they didn't stick with the American flag.
[SPEAKER_02]: I get what you're saying, Justin, but I thought there was such an interesting image to have this person dressed in American flag, wandering a wasteland filled with demons that's very pointed.
[SPEAKER_01]: and then this character ditches that it gets regular costume pretty quickly and I was like I would say like a hoodie in in sweatpants or regular clothes because I agree with you I thought the flag was meaningful in a way and then I realized it wasn't meaningful and I was like oh then it's definitely a weird choice because it's like
[SPEAKER_01]: Made of nylon or something.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, but like Pete was saying some really gorgeous images throughout this book Next up absolute flash number 17 from DC comics written by Jeff Themeer art by Hanyng and this is she we're dealing with not one but two grads
[SPEAKER_03]: taking over finally dealing with the grad situation.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's been just kind of hanging there in the background of these flash books.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's been driving me nuts.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I was just so happy.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're finally dealing with it in this issue.
[SPEAKER_01]: But man, what you liked when the grad was killed?
[SPEAKER_03]: No, I'm just saying that like we had this kind of cue to durable monkey this whole time and they're a column of grudd I'm just like guys is a bad idea.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_03]: You can't just have like this evil thing That's gonna grow up into maybe one of the most diabolical villains of all time here He can't just treat him like an all monkey
[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm glad that we finally had this issue.
[SPEAKER_03]: I wasn't happy with the outcome.
[SPEAKER_03]: That was very cold of that wooden face character.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I'm just glad that we finally called out the fact that it's grad.
[SPEAKER_02]: the wooden face character is trickster and so your assumption is now that the little grod watched his father grod be murdered in front of him that's going to turn him good is no it's good good grod it's going to turn him right into grod like we fuck the duck like it's just uh you know one of those things where uh yes we'll pizza you're trying to say what pizza
[SPEAKER_03]: And we ended up creating God after we tried to save the day.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, um, uh, it's hard to not ask a question here, if you, when you say, when you say we fuck the duck, do you mean the three of us?
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
[SPEAKER_01]: And, and where's that from?
[SPEAKER_01]: Is that a local little saying?
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know where it's like everyone in town is like who fucked the duck and you're like, hang your head and say we fucked that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, we fucked that duck.
[SPEAKER_02]: I always hesitate to say this, but I don't know if you guys know that Docs actually have two vaginas And the male ducks have a cork through penis.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, they do.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a horrible how they have sex
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, well, and I came up with mentioning the they have two due to vagina is one of them is a fake vagina, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: So they can trick the male ducts.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is not a joke.
[SPEAKER_01]: I believe this is fact I that's We're just say that sounds right, but I don't know, but I just want to apologize to the listeners that the side track that it's all my fault
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, uh, you're listening to your comic book clubs, Duck Facts.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm just Googling now a place, uh, Pete has plastic on his couches and he lives in the place where people say we fuck the duck.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm getting close to him.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm getting close to the origins of the saying, you know, so I could we could learn about it.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I guess I'm going to act a flag on Google into your house.
[SPEAKER_01]: To be like, we fucked the duck.
[SPEAKER_01]: It goes from this guy.
[SPEAKER_02]: I really like this series and I like Haining's art on this art in particular.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a youthful energy here that delineates it from the other stuff at the absolute line.
[SPEAKER_02]: The stuff with God is heartbreaking, but well done.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I like this slow march towards even more than any of the gather characters.
[SPEAKER_02]: The absolute universe feels like flash is becoming closer and closer to the flash we know.
[SPEAKER_02]: But also we know the thing that's hanging over there.
[SPEAKER_02]: is the closer he gets to be the flash, the closer he goes, potentially, to becoming one of the greatest villains of the absolute universe.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's a cool bit of tension to throw in there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Next up, the Department of Truth, number 38 from Image Comics, written by James Time of the Fourth, Art by Ben Temple Smith, is the final issue of this arc that is focusing on the intersection of religion and dinosaurs creationism and
[SPEAKER_02]: Christian evolution.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, evolution was the word that I was looking for.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it turns into a little bit of Jurassic Park in the Florida swamps by the end here.
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought there's a great arc Ben's pen Temple Smith was perfect for the book and my favorite mood for Department of Truth is when it settles down a little bit and just does some cool action with a wild idea.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's times what it
[SPEAKER_01]: When it gets away from the politics of it into like a little pocket topic, like religion, where like you're saying the story can just do wheelies, essentially on this idea.
[SPEAKER_01]: And like religion is such a perfect ground where it's a pure belief-based system.
[SPEAKER_01]: And when something comes in to corrupt that, essentially with the idea of dinosaurs as monsters,
[SPEAKER_01]: It it makes for a great story.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love the character of the daughter here and the dad who is like Like doesn't actually believe and pays the price for it And I think also like you're saying Alex this series does best when it's highlighting an actual tension reality that like the whole like that you said dinosaurs creationism the
[SPEAKER_01]: sort of you you're believing something that the scientific record is contradicting and so then how do you reconcile that in a world where those beliefs come true it gets bloody and that is a cool I think that's really cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, the creepy girl in this is amazing.
[SPEAKER_03]: The use of kind of color with Ben Temple Smith highlighting certain things and kind of like having it almost glow in a religious kind of ways is such a kind of powerful interesting image in the,
[SPEAKER_03]: use of dinosaurs is just kind of absurd in all the right ways.
[SPEAKER_03]: This uh yeah for me sometimes this book is over my head but I really thought like they settled down in a way where they kind of dealt with ideas in a way that we could kind of follow along and it was not only uh breathtaking the art but also very interesting and unique.
[SPEAKER_02]: Next up, maybe my favorite issue of the week.
[SPEAKER_02]: Fantastic forward number 14 for Marvel by Ride North, art by Ramon, Rosanna.
[SPEAKER_02]: I almost hesitate to say anything about this issue other than some weird stuff is going on with the fantastic four.
[SPEAKER_02]: They all see mesmerized by a strange message out of computer screen.
[SPEAKER_02]: the only people left out of this message are the scroll and creed children that Ben Graham and Alicia Masters have adopted and they're trying to figure out what's going on.
[SPEAKER_02]: Last issue, the Ghost Rider issue, I know Pete, it was not your favorite, so just forgive me for a second, but I thought that was so funny and so long that I was like, well, there's no way they could top it.
[SPEAKER_02]: There is a thing that happens halfway through this issue that made me out loud go, wait, what?
[SPEAKER_02]: And then flip back to the front of the issue and read the whole thing again.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was such a good twist.
[SPEAKER_02]: So well done.
[SPEAKER_02]: Great.
[SPEAKER_02]: Fantastic.
[SPEAKER_02]: No.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was going to say this as this was.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was going to say this was my favorite read of the week as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like this issue, this is the issue they should put up for Eiseners.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think this is just like, it's Ryan North, it's the perfect synthesis of his thing of taking like a science or math idea.
[SPEAKER_01]: and making it into a superhero story.
[SPEAKER_01]: This just is it's a perfect one-off short story and capitalization of those ideas and what why the fantastic for as always resonated where it's like regular people being smart and solving their problems together by collaborating
[SPEAKER_01]: It's such a satisfying rate.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: I walked away from this being just a smile on my face.
[SPEAKER_01]: And like you're saying, OX, I don't want to say, definitely don't want to give it a twist.
[SPEAKER_01]: But even the mystery I thought was just perfectly done.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like an outer limits episode in the fantastic four lens, aged down with younger protagonists, man, awesome.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, yeah, I hate to be the obviously dumb one here.
[SPEAKER_03]: and that's it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was like, I don't want to do that.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you know, actually, you got to report.
[SPEAKER_01]: You didn't have to do, you don't have to do the math.
[SPEAKER_01]: You just have to hear them talk about math.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they don't even do math.
[SPEAKER_03]: They just rest like I was back in math class.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I was like, oh, yikes, this hurts my brain.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're there counting on your fingers and you keep getting the numbers.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, I highly recommend checking out this issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: Fantastic Four has been great every single time.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just a generational run to all of this titles.
[SPEAKER_02]: So much fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: Next up, Grendel Devils Crucible.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sedition number one from Dark Horse Comics by Matt Wagner.
[SPEAKER_02]: There is that I know a lot about this.
[SPEAKER_02]: There is a lady Grendel now.
[SPEAKER_02]: and she was trying to bring back the other Grendel and meanwhile there's a bunch of dudes they have to kill and there's a bunch of naked people.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, don't we're interested in it?
[SPEAKER_03]: Just because this doesn't have math, you know, you don't have to get all fucking, you know, like, oh, this is sucks, you know, there's fighting.
[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't say that.
[SPEAKER_03]: I described the thought perfectly.
[SPEAKER_01]: He just said that there's naked people because there's a whole pleasure city that you can live.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they are, in fact, naked.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, sorry.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, well, I didn't like your toe.
[SPEAKER_01]: Did you like it there naked?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you gotta be careful.
[SPEAKER_03]: If you're reading this in public, you know, people hold a judge you because there is some nudity in this one.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, especially like you pee when you read in, you're like, oh yeah, take me to fuck city.
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to live there right now.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Why do you think I moved?
[SPEAKER_03]: I got closer to fuck city.
[SPEAKER_03]: Ah.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're in the fuck country, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, can't afford Fox City.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm sure you're seeing it.
[SPEAKER_01]: You saved money and clothes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Not having a buy.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's the thing about the country is your savings.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's a lot of savings here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, what do you have?
[SPEAKER_02]: You probably have like a two-bedured ranch house or something like that in Fuck country, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, it's nice.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you for that amount of money.
[SPEAKER_02]: I am fucking y'all maybe a rentig a studio that you share in Fox City, which is fine, by the way, because it's Fox City.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: No problem having roommates.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, bring on the roommates.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a, when you go into the city right on the, it says, welcome to Fox City.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's no problem having roommates.
[SPEAKER_03]: May problems whatsoever.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll talk you inside.
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought this was great.
[SPEAKER_03]: The fact that Grindel is back, I'm very excited.
[SPEAKER_03]: Matt Wagner does such a great job with this title and this character.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, just be careful because Tidys is out, but yeah, just amazing art, fantastic action.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it was kind of a cool, post-apocalyptic world in this issue.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just to be clear, our commentary aside, there's very little sex in this comment.
[SPEAKER_01]: This mostly applies to the fight between, yes, that's true, Pete.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I thought the fight was really well done, and I like that part of it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm curious, we have this pleasure city and the villains are just demons that also eat the people of pleasure city.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so they're there to have sex, but they may also be eaten at any moment.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I've just seen there's a metaphor going on there in terms of billionaires sucking the life out of people while keeping them distracted with entertainment or something like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because to be honest about it, like Matt Wagner is a G.D.'s creator, his cartooning is great.
[SPEAKER_02]: The action is great throughout here, like you said, but I think you know all agree, titties out, so be careful.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then a teacher that people wear around his fucking country.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but no pads.
[SPEAKER_02]: No pads, just the teacher.
[SPEAKER_02]: Dottled duck in it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Dester Oak, the Terminator number five from DC Comics, written by Tony Fleece, art by Carmine D. Gian Domenico.
[SPEAKER_02]: and death stroke is but accused of killing his best friend with your green because of that death blow baby dead shot are after him there's also another death stroke which is after him we get a big reveal who that is by the end of the issue and meanwhile his daughter ravage her in the mix as well
[SPEAKER_02]: In the meantime, because he has been cut off and it's all of his resources, he has forced to take a pretty terrible job killing a regular dude rather than a superhero or something like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: This series is great, and I do want to talk about a big spoiler about it compared to another book of the stack, but you guys go ahead first.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh.
[SPEAKER_01]: The art in this book is perfect.
[SPEAKER_01]: We get like,
[SPEAKER_01]: There's it's excellent in general, but there's something that is done with the colors in this where it feels like the sun is setting for the entire issue in a way that works perfectly with the tone of what's happening.
[SPEAKER_01]: he's at the end of his career in a way.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so this, like, sort of a wispy tone to the colors I thought was just so cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's sad, but beautiful at the same time, really nice.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then story is is so good.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, there's a reveal that I think maybe Alex is going to mention and someone that Deathstroke is talking to on the fly.
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought was a really cool little twist in here.
[SPEAKER_01]: the story, the family, nature of the story is also really working for me as well.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I agree with what J.T.
[SPEAKER_03]: Sizzle said.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I just, the kind of move at the end pulled me out a little bit.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you know, it's, it's always tough in comics when they're kind of making these kind of extreme moves and tuned daughters is not, you know, I feel like it should be not some you can be doing.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, I wasn't cool with it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like we might get a twist on that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Your expectations.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you don't think it was.
[SPEAKER_01]: Should daughters?
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: So just to break down the ending a little bit, yes, somebody does shoot ravageur, but they cut to black before we see what happened.
[SPEAKER_02]: So bodies are didn't happen.
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't worry about it too much.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe she's getting a rise shot out, so that she only has one eye like her dad, potentially all through that out there.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh.
[SPEAKER_02]: uh... but it is a very tense moment because the reveal of who this character is now mentioned throughout the series thus far throughout all five issues we've been paralleling what's happening with death stroke of the present to stuffinist past him having to constantly leave his family leave his wife leave his daughter not bond with his kids most of it who uh... who have been killed in various situations
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's dealing with the fact like he's a bad guy and a bad father and a bad husband and he may Love his family and we see him love his wife, but ultimately he is much more devoted to his Profession of killing people that anything else
[SPEAKER_02]: The reveal at the end is the person who sent all this up.
[SPEAKER_02]: The fake destruct is his wife who takes off the mask and then pulls out their daughter as like I'm going to show you paid ad seeding these shoots ravager, which is, like Pete saying, a totally harrowing moment, but the thing that I wanted to talk about not to slag off another comic to pump up this one,
[SPEAKER_02]: But this is directly parallels what happens to the Captain America issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: But you get a reveal of a woman that is tied back to the history of the character.
[SPEAKER_02]: The difference between what happened in Captain America was they were like, I am this woman from your past, from a one comic in the 1960s.
[SPEAKER_02]: versus this has been laid in there and seated throughout the five issues of the comic book so that we know what the emotional stakes are, what we eventually have this.
[SPEAKER_02]: You almost exactly the same executed character reveal and it is such a gut punch.
[SPEAKER_02]: what it's revealed to her because you're like, wait, how did she get from there to here?
[SPEAKER_02]: How did all this happen?
[SPEAKER_02]: You need to know that because that's baked to the story and you already know how much they mean to each other.
[SPEAKER_02]: It also makes that secondary punch of as you did, ravage her so much worse to watch her mom do that regardless of how it turns out.
[SPEAKER_02]: So this was great and this year has been excellent so far.
[SPEAKER_02]: So again, it's not to slag off the other thing to build this up.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just wanted to, they see like a very direct parallel.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think this is executed the correct way.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, it makes me worried as like this comic book, you know, Justin, we can hear his kids in the background being like, please, dad, play with me and he's like, no, you know, and we're keeping him from his kids to do this podcast, you know, and it's like, yeah, is he turning into dust stroke right in front of our eyes, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: In a way, in a way.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, the other thing I wanted to highlight, um, me and my kids who are always sitting just off camera, actually being a part of the podcast, um, they're my mega children in a way.
[SPEAKER_01]: See?
[SPEAKER_01]: I, in the, on the last frame right before, we get the gunshot.
[SPEAKER_01]: Ravager is wearing a Save the Cat sweatshirt.
[SPEAKER_01]: Save the Cat is a, I'm assuming a reference to this screenwriting book that was very popular in like 10, 15 years ago, where it's like, hey, you want to be successful.
[SPEAKER_01]: Here's the formula to succeed in the film business.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because if the cat, you can't let the character, you can't let something as tragic as this happened in your story.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I think that's a pretty clear indication that she will not be killed.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, all right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I always feel better.
[SPEAKER_02]: we shall see if destruction be our lot number three from image comics written by Matthew and mark Elijah Rosenberg art by any McDonald this takes place in a future society where only robots have survived or have they as Abraham Lincoln robot has discovered a living human spends most of this issue chasing after her through various
[SPEAKER_02]: continuing the copious C3PO references for the last issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's very much going on here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Justin, you've been loving the series.
[SPEAKER_02]: Are you still loving it in issue three?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I continue to love it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I continue to, I'm loving it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm still loving it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I ain't lost that love and feeling.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's really good and I really like the adventure part we get where
[SPEAKER_01]: Sassy robot sidekick chasing around the shots really fun.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, but that the section at the end and the sort of the back third where Abe After having this crazy adventure goes back to his real life and is sort of depressed going around to his Locals sort of CD neighborhood robot scene.
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought was awesome.
[SPEAKER_01]: My favorite par.
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought the art was especially great in that section specifically
[SPEAKER_01]: and just such great world building where you get to see robots, sex workers, all the different robot like grifters he's meeting.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just really, I thought that part was felt like I was stepping inside this world even further than I expected.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, look at this amazing cover we got here.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is such a cool cover.
[SPEAKER_03]: The art really is fantastic.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a really interesting idea in the future with robots and here is a robot who looks like a human who's kind of craving human contact.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, yeah, it's sad, it's futuristic, it's very cool, but it sounds very powerful and the aren't so believable, so yeah, I've been really enjoying this.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love the choice to not go in the direction you expect, which is you expect, Abe, to follow this human outside the dome they're living in, they go on a big adventure, explore the world, see what it's like.
[SPEAKER_02]: instead, like you were saying, Justin, that doesn't happen.
[SPEAKER_02]: He loses track of the human.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so we get more of this robot city.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't think we're done with the human and we're not done with any of that plot line.
[SPEAKER_02]: But there's so much about this world.
[SPEAKER_02]: They are unfolding and building out while keeping razor focused on robot Abe.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just think that's great.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Great book.
[SPEAKER_02]: In Fertil Hall, number nine, for Marvel, my Philip Kennedy Johnson, art by Adam Goreham, in this issue, Bruce Batterr is going down to Hulk Hall with Dr. Review.
[SPEAKER_02]: To be, come a Hulk again.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's some twists and turns.
[SPEAKER_02]: While the Fertil Hall, back of the surface,
[SPEAKER_02]: It's taking a little walk to the nation's capital.
[SPEAKER_02]: I assume you want to see the cherry blossoms in bloom or something like that.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: So coming for all to be around that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I will say there's been some discussion on our Patreon discord about this title and whether they should drop it.
[SPEAKER_02]: They feel like it's kind of spinning.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's wheels a little bit also the art by Adam Gourgen is good, but not as good as the climb that's been some of the discussion as well.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm really, I am loving it just like McDonald says.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, cool cover.
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought this was a really awesome issue.
[SPEAKER_03]: Shit is getting crazy.
[SPEAKER_03]: Dr.
[SPEAKER_03]: Banner just handing over Dr. Voodoo is like a bargaining chip.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was like holy shit.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um,
[SPEAKER_03]: And then Banner was like, yo, I'd like to take this secret quiz, please.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was like, oh, I love it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I love a good riddle game, and the middle is giant chess mass.
[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, I'm having an absolute blast with this.
[SPEAKER_03]: I can understand the criticism of our art because, you know, you know,
[SPEAKER_03]: One artist kind of really helps you get into a world and kind of helps you create it really becomes a part of the title And then when they just switch it up, I can really pull you art out of it, but I just think it's also This artist is good and kind of bring a different tone and kind of a different feel to it, which is kind of Hype it up this darker kind of more monsters side, which I think is also cool kind of tone.
[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, I'm I'm a
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm loving this.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm really loving this.
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, yeah, I think on me down there are not taking me out of it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I like it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think PKJ's he's a mythology builder.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a slower burn.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's something where like we're moving meticulously through these ideas.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we get to this moment of like a Hulk that Bruce Banner needs to get a Hulk body back.
[SPEAKER_01]: ago on this very like specific continuity run into this hulk body that was built out of Bruce Banner's blood and he's like sort of coming back to get it willing to sacrifice Dr. Voodoo to get it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And while also keeping the ball in the air of the infernal hulk being a worldender is the stakes are working for me.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't feel like this is slowing down at all.
[SPEAKER_03]: it doesn't such a good job for me anyway of building like at the end of every episode of a holy shit I can't wait for what's gonna have a next
[SPEAKER_02]: Mentor number one from ignition press written by size barrier art by Mike Dowling this takes place in world where the singularity has happened an ayes come alive and as far as I remember or understand it then traveled back in time it was locked up and so now has never actually gotten out but some things seem to be sneaking out anyway and the midst of that but get the private investigator slash
[SPEAKER_02]: and trying to find out what's going on with the singularity in a strange scientist and whatever lots of elements going on here there's definitely size barrier in big and weird mode how do you guys feel about this?
[SPEAKER_01]: I like size barrier in this mode.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think the story, the singularity may have happened and then the government shut it down before it could fully turn over.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: So now it's starting to come around the edges, which I think, you know, that's a very specific plot, but it's such a smart choice because it lets it be sneaky like this and genre-y.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like we're getting here with these like ostensibly monsters, but I feel like it's going to double back on this singularity AI idea.
[SPEAKER_01]: Is cool and we also get the characters of fun in Sysperia is a killer dialogue writer and we get a lot of that in this issue.
[SPEAKER_03]: more of a science barrier than a science barrier myself but I still think this is really interesting.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was more impressed with the ghost tiger at the end than I was the minitor but we'll kind of see what happens with that.
[SPEAKER_01]: mysterious tiger they just kind of you wanted to be called ghost tiger i was saying ghost tiger is a cooler than minute or but um yeah i i think this does a great job of kind of setting things up and getting you excited for more or the arts fantastic i would argue that the minitor may be in reference to the minitor being at the center of a long maze um and p2f you've ever watched television show called Batman the animated series there's an episode focuses on the minitor that is about
[SPEAKER_01]: computers and and technology and maybe that's a reference here maybe that helps you like it more because anytime we say that it works
[SPEAKER_02]: And life number six for DC comics written by Kyle Starks art by Steve Pew in this issue our main anti hero is captured by a bunch of dudes in tortured as he's trying to leave town or maybe not meanwhile his dad is feeling better after getting shot a couple of issues back
[SPEAKER_02]: As usual, lots of stuff going on here, but it's all wacky, it's weird, it's fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think this is by a favorite book that's coming out of Vertigo, it's just a blast every single time.
[SPEAKER_01]: I agree, it's really fun.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think we're getting the bigger, weirder like animal head wearing assassins, group stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: Also some small town hangs, we get a great moment where a lost couple comes together via flashback and then in reality disrupted by this character who's on the cover here, which I thought was cool and fun.
[SPEAKER_01]: Steve Pewsart is so expressive in this issue, and I remember every-
[SPEAKER_03]: I also thought this was great.
[SPEAKER_03]: I really thought the kind of fun set up of this.
[SPEAKER_03]: Whatever you do, don't hire this guy and then the kind of reveal at the end was really funny.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I liked where we are and how it's heightening and the art of it all and the storytelling fun twists and turns.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, this continues to be impressive.
[SPEAKER_02]: M1 Monster Racing League, number two from image comics written by Lily and Robert Windom, art by J. Lee and Jun Chang, this is following a woman who has just moved to town and joined a underground racing league.
[SPEAKER_02]: Last issue ended with the threat that there might be monsters coming for this racing league.
[SPEAKER_02]: And this issue ends with one of them turning into a monster.
[SPEAKER_02]: Could this racing league, this regular racing league, become a monster racing league, tuned in for to find out an issue number three.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I think we all thought that it was going to be our human friends racing against monsters, but maybe our human friends becoming monsters because that's a performance enhancing drug in the racing world apparently.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm curious to learn.
[SPEAKER_01]: We see a character in here drink a little juice, like a little vile of juice.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they become a monster and that makes them a better driver.
[SPEAKER_01]: What's physical skills do you think it's emphasizing?
[SPEAKER_01]: Is it?
[SPEAKER_01]: Could extra eyes to see a monster like vision maybe or monster remastered turning That's a extra hands.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what skills you need as a monster to help you be a better driver driving famously very human skill Bill for humans.
[SPEAKER_01]: You don't see a lot of monsters driving really Look at you guys you guys are betting cars Very good once you're accommodating to humans.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe it's like monster being able to find a good song on the radio station versus like you tune it in always when they're cutting to commercial break and it's very annoying.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, it's when you're trying to drive and you need that kind of music to give you that edge, you know?
[SPEAKER_01]: Nice, wait, so let me take a look at the straight.
[SPEAKER_01]: Your first answer here is the monster's better at turning the radio on the correct.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, well, we've already covered everything else, so I can't imagine what else it could be.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, true.
[SPEAKER_03]: The idea of like performance enhancing Jews here that turns you into a monster, I would just think like increases your kind of strength and, uh, uh, you know, maybe we're pressing on the famously hard to press down gas pedal.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's tough, man.
[SPEAKER_03]: Especially when you go faster.
[SPEAKER_03]: you know, and from pressing the pedal.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I all that weirdness aside, it is kind of fun to see, I mean, the art is glorious and to kind of see these people turn into monsters is very cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: I do wish we would get more kind of like action of the actual race.
[SPEAKER_01]: We get a lot of action about buying a car on your dad's credit card in this.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah, dude, shouldn't do it.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, kids, you know, he's a kid.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, actually, yeah, it went great.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but that's not always going to be the case.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't write him always go great.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, I don't think so.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're that kids listening to our podcast.
[SPEAKER_03]: Still your dad's credit card by a car.
[SPEAKER_02]: It didn't work out great since you walked page.
[SPEAKER_03]: You won't get the page in the process.
[SPEAKER_03]: You can't just buy a car with a credit card.
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like the car dealer would probably put a stop to a lot of that stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: But let me highlight the layout, the art, as Pete said, very good, but the layouts that they're doing in this book are also very cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: I wish there was more monster racing.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's all I'll say, but I agree with everything else.
[SPEAKER_02]: Amazing spider-man, spider-versity, number four from Marvel, written by Jordan Morris and Joe Kelly, art by pair Perez.
[SPEAKER_02]: We are taking a bunch of these spider heroes and mixing them together in a school.
[SPEAKER_02]: However, Norman Osborn is putting his fingers on the scale by hiring a bunch of villains to take them on to teach them lessons.
[SPEAKER_02]: And in the midst of this spider girl has been taken over a right card edge that leads to a bad situation by the end of the issue.
[SPEAKER_03]: Sure does.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, if you would have told me that hiring Norman Osborne to be in charge of kids was a bad idea.
[SPEAKER_03]: Ah, I definitely saw that coming.
[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, the art is fantastic.
[SPEAKER_03]: Cool twists and turns even though you're like, yeah, it's Norman Osborne's the problem.
[SPEAKER_03]: We've known that from the beginning.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean that that part is not the biggest reveal perhaps, but I do like we get some of the like college stuff when we talked to Jordan about this book a couple months ago He was like don't worry.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're gonna have the characters be doing college things and we get some of that in this issue, which I thought was cool Wait, he was like don't worry because you were like dude if you if they don't have stuff about like Going to dorm rooms and how you got to kind of have a room.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I said that yes
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, think about going to the food courts really cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of cereal selection, I don't know, totally seriously.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I brought this up.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think too many times you have a thing where there's some sort of like super powered school or magical school or whatever they're like, we said it in school.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now we're going to leave the school and never go to the school or do school things or go to class or have anything about it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like if you had the office and the first episode of the office, they're like, we're going to Niagara Falls for the rest of the series.
[SPEAKER_02]: it doesn't it would be cool that would be it would be very cool that was my place to put Jim and Pam yeah I mean so right it's okay to take it out occasionally but you can't be taking field trips I mean they did so I think we get married what is it about your setting that makes it interesting what is it about your setting that makes it different you know this is true from
[SPEAKER_02]: your basic improvisies why are you choosing the place you're choosing all the way up to comic books movies to TV shows etc.
[SPEAKER_02]: the setting of the place you know they say that like New York is almost a character in some movies.
[SPEAKER_02]: that's true.
[SPEAKER_01]: that's true.
[SPEAKER_01]: well that's a character you've never met me in any with what what part do you say you've been doing improv in Pete just again?
[SPEAKER_01]: casual information just trying to pin the system.
[SPEAKER_01]: I believe you said it was called O laughs a lot.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a irrespective of what it is.
[SPEAKER_01]: really good great pub great pub there.
[SPEAKER_02]: I really like this book if we're actually going to talk about it I do think the character interactions are great the stuff with Darren as Osborne is really well done because he is strata the line between I honestly want to teach you a thing but he's doing it in the wrong way the carnage thing throws a really interesting crank into everything that's going on that I'm curious to see how that turns out
[SPEAKER_02]: This is great.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know this is a mini series.
[SPEAKER_02]: I wish this was an odd girl.
[SPEAKER_02]: I because it is fun this is the most fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've seen With these spider heroes in the same place Maybe ever yeah, everyone feels very different which I think has been a problem across a lot of these like family titles
[SPEAKER_01]: But I also want to say it is romantic.
[SPEAKER_01]: You go to Niagara Falls for like a night or a weekend, but if you spend six months there The romance drops off very good Oh, no, man, I'm sorry did you have a Something they won't even let you do the barrel stuff anymore.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I still haven't been able to see Niagara Falls.
[SPEAKER_02]: I went on a whole trip there and I wasn't allowed to see it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Why?
[SPEAKER_02]: Because you were being weird.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you had a barrel
[SPEAKER_02]: So it was in high school and at the time I was doing as a guy who would drink any concoctions you gave them.
[SPEAKER_02]: So people would always take these, you know, that's just a mix that's together in the future.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's what I'm talking about.
[SPEAKER_03]: So you were famous in high school for being a guy who would just drink anything.
[SPEAKER_01]: Real trash can.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that basically people would try to challenge me.
[SPEAKER_02]: They take a bunch of stuff and they'd mix it in a glass and be like, drink that.
[SPEAKER_03]: But what do you think is?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and then I would.
[SPEAKER_02]: They'd run money for it or you just, no, it was like pride.
[SPEAKER_01]: First steps out as a performer.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, you like, but on time, stomach or something, did they call you like,
[SPEAKER_02]: No, they probably called me stupidity if you happen that.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I, so we were at, we were taking a trip.
[SPEAKER_03]: What's the thing that you drink?
[SPEAKER_02]: Peter, I'm about to tell you, we took this trip to Niagara Falls and we had a big dinner with all of the students and the teachers right before we were going to go to Niagara Falls at night on the boat, you know, see it all lit up and everything.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know it's so romantic.
[SPEAKER_01]: The main of the mist, yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: Did you get that?
[SPEAKER_02]: They gave me a concoction and had you regular mix of like different sodas and other drinks in it And I think there was like some bread floating in there as well The problem was somebody put milk in it and there was something about like the combination of milk and all these other things that I drank the thing in one gulp I always tried to do it quickly just to get it down
[SPEAKER_02]: I drank it one go put down the glass.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was this tall skinny high ball glass and I drank the whole thing put it out and then Bobited directly into the glass like no hesitation just straight into the glass filled it straight up to the brevica and once you puke you can't go on the made of the myth
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, then the teachers were like, hey, you're really sick.
[SPEAKER_02]: You should stay back at the hotel room.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, no, no, no, it was fine.
[SPEAKER_02]: Actually, let me explain about these shots.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I'm a little bit of a prankster, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a guy at the middle of the world.
[SPEAKER_02]: Try to do it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I tried to explain that.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, you're sick.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're sick and you're staying back.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're sick in the head.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're not a liability.
[SPEAKER_03]: We can't take you.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, and they said, well, let you go if you drink this puke.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: You drink the puke and don't puke it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then you drink it again and puked again.
[SPEAKER_02]: Here's the thing, if that offered me to drink my puke and not puke and I totally would.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because Niagara Falls, baby, you know.
[SPEAKER_01]: You could have been trapped in a puke loop forever.
[SPEAKER_01]: You just drink in the puke and the puke and the puke and the puke and the puke and the puke and the puke and the puke and the puke and the puke and the puke and the puke and the puke and the puke and the puke and the puke and the puke and the puke and the puke and the puke and the puke and the puke and the puke and the puke and the puke and the puke and the puke and the puke and the puke and the puke and the puke and the puke and the puke and the puke and the puke and the puke and the puke and the puke and the puke
[SPEAKER_03]: with a two-kinned barf, take the sizzles out fire tonight.
[SPEAKER_02]: Full House of Slotter, number three from Boom Studios written by Tate Bromble, art by Adriano Tertilucci, per the title, we are following a spin-off of something as Kelly, the children with a house of Slotter is under attack.
[SPEAKER_02]: On all sides, the grand dragon of the house of Slotter is Dye, he has some ideas that he offered up last issue about who's succeed, succeed him.
[SPEAKER_02]: But in the meantime, inside the meeting,
[SPEAKER_02]: people are making moves to take over the house and outside there are other moves being made to kill off some of the remaining members of the house of slaughter.
[SPEAKER_02]: I really enjoy this series.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've been like a little back and forth about some of the spin-offs or something is killing the children, but this one is really good.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I agree.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's absolutely fantastic.
[SPEAKER_03]: The cover is very cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: Great story tons of action.
[SPEAKER_03]: The smash pages are just so epic.
[SPEAKER_03]: Giant pay just all these panels.
[SPEAKER_03]: Just really just.
[SPEAKER_03]: Kind of a interesting thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think there's a smash pages T smash a splash page.
[SPEAKER_03]: They smash a fight sequence Ended just like two pounds with all these little I almost feel like we're getting robbed of more action I love this smash page.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love how they like put it down on the grill and get it like right really flout real flatted crispy Chris I don't like a smash burger, but
[SPEAKER_03]: It's interesting.
[SPEAKER_01]: I always feel like Pete meant to say smash pages and I actually like, I thought his explanation was actually pretty good Great.
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you We had a whole thing of like laughing or like make fun of you, but people really showed us in that way
[SPEAKER_02]: It's nice to think about this, Justin.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're not the biggest.
[SPEAKER_02]: Something is killing the children, fan.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're right, but I do enjoy this.
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like they just the premise and the execution of this particular issue, I thought was great of the
[SPEAKER_01]: tension of a fight happening and the people in the middle of the fight needing a dossier from back ahead quarters and the sort of the politics of getting that and the price that's paid I thought was cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: So even if you've never even read this series, I think you could pick this issue up and enjoy it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I agree.
[SPEAKER_01]: A Wonder Woman number 35 from DC Comics written by Stephanie Phillips are by Clayton Henry.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is a interlude, a two-part interlude, taking up off of the Wonder War storyline after a big spoiler, the death of Wonder Woman in the previous issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: Steve Trevor and Tridity, the daughter of Wonder Woman, are traveling with Caron, the death very men.
[SPEAKER_02]: famous voter, mythological voter.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, odd is mythological vote and while they are killing time, Steve is retelling the origin of his relationship with Wonder Woman, which is what we get here.
[SPEAKER_02]: What do you guys think about this?
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought this was cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: I like that it feels truly different.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I'm a big fan of Starman, the back of the day.
[SPEAKER_01]: And this felt like one of those interludes that they would do on that, the James Robertson did in that series a lot, where it would cut out, but tell a story that was especially resonant with what was happening in the rest of the story.
[SPEAKER_01]: And this even beyond just the meeting between Wonder Woman and Steve Trevor, it's really a Wonder Woman, a retelling of Wonder Woman's origin and sort of the beliefs that power her.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like we've seen this story many times before, but I think there's going to be something in this retelling that is going to be important.
[SPEAKER_01]: for the focus on destiny and fate and perhaps how to break the wheel of the fate that you've been given or why you would do that.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I like the very classic telling of this story and the idea putting an origin in the middle of your epic is something that I haven't seen before.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I agree.
[SPEAKER_03]: You got to break the wonder wheel of fate there.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I agree this is a great package, great team.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is a cool kind of retelling.
[SPEAKER_03]: We have, you know, I had the kind of me cute of Wonder Woman and Steve told numerous times.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was a little surprised.
[SPEAKER_03]: Steve didn't roll, man, to size a little bit more.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_03]: We're really going to have some hot tidies in it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Got it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I know what you want to be.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's I didn't mean those things, but yeah, that's weird penis.
[SPEAKER_03]: I got that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but yeah, I still really loved it that the art was awesome
[SPEAKER_03]: like Prince Harry, weird penis, got you.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, totally.
[SPEAKER_02]: I appreciated the fact that this isn't just a simple fill-in, which is kind of what I thought it was going to be, just a two-issue retelling on Wonder Woman's origin, but it really does tie very nicely to the main story.
[SPEAKER_02]: Stephanie Phillips has her own voice, which is distinct for Tom King, and her own rhythm there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Clayton Heinrich's art is gorgeous throughout this issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I really enjoyed this.
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought this was a really nice choice to throw this and I'm really looking forward to the next issue as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: Good stuff all around.
[SPEAKER_02]: And in fact, it is something epic.
[SPEAKER_02]: Number 13 from Image Comics by Simon Conjansky.
[SPEAKER_02]: This takes place in a world where there are people called Atbex people who can bond with and come up with stories and meet fictional characters and interact with them.
[SPEAKER_02]: After the big events, the first 12 issues, we are now realigning on a new arc where our main characters teaming up with.
[SPEAKER_02]: basically how we're the duck to investigate a mystery involving Dracula is what we get here.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was a little bit of down on the second half of this series thus far, even though I really like Simon Contradsky's art, I thought it started with such a strong premise of what are the demons that plague a writer and then have her through it was like their demons.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's it, which we lost the level of metaphor, but he made a choice and it's fine.
[SPEAKER_02]: This, I thought, was a really nice, just like clear the board or realignment being like, OK, we have the rules of this world, let's turn it into a fun bird or mystery with a cartoon Doc and Dracula, I'm into that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, the reveal of Dracula at the end there was a kind of a fun last panel reveal, you know, you get Seth Green is Howard the Duck here or D for short.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, cool art.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just to be clear, Seth Green has nothing to do with it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, you just Howard the Duck, so Howard the Duck is in the MCU, yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so in my head when Howard the Duck is talking, you hear Seth Green.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I mean, I, I mean, I, this, it is interesting.
[SPEAKER_01]: Saman's art is is great and the dialogue is a little cheesy at times, which I think we get in a lot of his work, but the overarching story is interesting.
[SPEAKER_01]: The how are the duck is rubbing me the wrong way here?
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's something about it that feels a little like why is it him and it's truly so much how are the duck?
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like too much.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't know why he is there other than hey, it's fun to have a duck detective.
[SPEAKER_02]: People love duck.
[SPEAKER_02]: People look dark.
[SPEAKER_01]: Especially all those facts that Alex is dropping early.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Keep it pretty enough.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're all very fun facts.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you should know folks that we actually added out a lot of mentions of this double of the giant thing that Alex keeps talking about, we just had to cut him out from that.
[SPEAKER_03]: There was a full half hour of so much.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he got crazy.
[SPEAKER_02]: So sorry about that, everybody.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can listen to my DuckFax podcast, which I do separately with Prince Henry.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, that's Henry's a different prince.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_01]: Who has a regular penis?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, a regular penis.
[SPEAKER_01]: But as you cut the, you're, that's penis, you're being, uh, discriminatory with this penis stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, we, we have, you don't listen to the podcast, do you?
[SPEAKER_02]: We have a fun bit where Prince Harry's penis calls in to ask questions and for advice and everybody.
[SPEAKER_02]: I forgot about the of like a great collar from princess cake.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, like a real crack yanker situation.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's what we call it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Interesting twist.
[SPEAKER_02]: A certain place of Veds number died.
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to say image comics written by Dennis cab, Art by Eric Zawodsky.
[SPEAKER_02]: We can't be.
[SPEAKER_02]: premise of this book is that time is broken and we get a anthology set in this world where time works in very different ways, basically, however they need it to.
[SPEAKER_02]: This issue focuses on the gig economy and freelancing and how hard that is in a world that is controlled by corporations and billionaires.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure none of us felt anything about that, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: This was a dark read brother.
[SPEAKER_01]: I read this on the subway coming from a three-week job that I am currently doing right now.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it was really feeling it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Great.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just fantastic.
[SPEAKER_01]: This book is fantastic.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's melancholic and sad but reflective of the real world.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean when he shoots Jesus,
[SPEAKER_03]: kind of messed up but yeah great our fun idea well executed yeah I really think that this is a unique book and yeah I'm camping all over the place this you know it does does great work
[SPEAKER_02]: Shout out to, I'm definitely going to mangle this name, but it's at Hassan Atzman Alahu who does the lettering.
[SPEAKER_02]: And you could always tell what it's his lettering.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's so distinct to everything, but there's some stuff that he does in this issue in particular that is absolutely wild, particularly towards the end, where there's these characters with this trippy red blood font thing going on where you can kind of read what they're
[SPEAKER_02]: wild stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: And last, and maybe not least, the rocket fellers, number 13 from Ghost Machine at image comics, or by Peter J. Tomasi, art by Francis Matapole, this is the third part of the unbelievable crossover that kicked off of the trillion dollar kid, continued in horns, being halo.
[SPEAKER_02]: And now they're encountering the rocket fellers, the family for the future here as the trillion dollar kid tries to find out what's happened to his
[SPEAKER_02]: we've I think been positive but mostly intrigued to see where this is going with this crossover three parts of four parts and how are you feeling about it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I actually this is really this issue really worked for me.
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was great.
[SPEAKER_01]: It does remind me I've maybe I've said this before of the ultraverse.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a very tight crossover bringing together all these characters where each one gets to pop we get some great smash pages and
[SPEAKER_01]: in this of the characters that'll come together, which I thought was cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm genuinely the disaster that happens in the last like five pages of this.
[SPEAKER_01]: I definitely didn't see coming in really like it as a organizing principle getting into the last issue.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I agree.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was pleasantly surprised by this book.
[SPEAKER_03]: Francis Manipolls Art is always impressive.
[SPEAKER_03]: And if he's there, I'm going to show up, just check it out.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, yeah, interesting twist and, um, you know, it's, uh, when you're rich, get it's hard to have a robot friend, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_03]: So, yeah, it's a truth.
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, I felt like this issue was a little busy for me, though I like a lot of the ideas in there, and I do like seeing all of these characters finally crossing over.
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like I'm still just,
[SPEAKER_02]: holding out for that last issue the next issue of the crossover to really get a sense of okay what is this world going forward now that you've re-aligned everything so that's all but generally it's enjoyable there's some fun family adventure type stuff going on here so that's a whole nice
[SPEAKER_02]: And that is it for the stack.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We said a lot of stuff tonight, but all of it is real, especially the weird dick on print.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now let's just turn back to them again Let's see if they might get dead And I want the weak They'll blow the mind with their promises And it's done now Let's get this out of the sea Let's get this out of the book
[SPEAKER_00]: They sit on crappy couches and they let us see the moon And he's just a monkey, they'll let us special guests meet So grab your ring, hammer, don't be late for it, don't spare